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Speaker 1: Second date, up date.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you can tell right away if you're romantically compatible

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Speaker 2: with a person just by how they order at a restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Suddenly you're talking Jose's love language.

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Speaker 1: I know, Jose.

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Speaker 2: Like, for example, if you're at a fancy steakhouse and

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Speaker 2: they say, yeah, I'll get a side of onion petals,

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Speaker 2: no sauce, and a wedge salad as my mane, but

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Speaker 2: with no bacon, no blue cheese. Can I sub the

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Speaker 2: croutons for keen waff lakes instead? I'm like, Uh, can

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Speaker 2: we go ring shopping right now? Because that's the high

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Speaker 2: maintenance dream girl I've always needed in my life.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you want super hot, that's what you

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Speaker 3: have to put up with. Yeah, they have to make sacrifice.

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Speaker 3: They can have a couple of bites exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's how our listener Andy says he knew his date

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Speaker 2: was just.

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Speaker 1: The right girl for him.

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Speaker 2: Oh really, we'll learn more about it in a second,

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Speaker 2: but first Andy, welcome to the show Man.

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Speaker 4: How you doing, Hey, guys, thanks.

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Speaker 5: For having me.

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Speaker 6: Man, God, any time we open these Andy talking about food,

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Speaker 6: I'm immediately hungry. I absolutely want to know what was

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Speaker 6: ordered and what restaurant.

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Speaker 3: Well, every food related item.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to all that stuff in just a second. First,

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Speaker 2: let's start with the name of this person, this girl

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Speaker 2: you met.

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Speaker 1: What's she all about?

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Speaker 4: Well, her name is Carla, Okay, and she's awesome. But

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Speaker 4: I've been recently been trying to kind of get out

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Speaker 4: on dating, seeing a little bit more okay, because i

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Speaker 4: was out of the market for a while and now

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Speaker 4: I'm back in and trying to get the lay of

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Speaker 4: the land.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: One thing that I've noticed is women these days, they're

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Speaker 4: so particular on their meals. I'm a laid back kind

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Speaker 4: oh this and not that, like just get some fish.

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Speaker 2: Look, people do low car but it's like, hey, no, rise,

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Speaker 2: I need ve Jesus overt adjustment.

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Speaker 6: Like people are just more food conscious over both.

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Speaker 2: It's sounds like you're pretty tired of that. Did that

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Speaker 4: That's the thing, not at all.

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Speaker 3: That's all she had to do. She's like, I'll take

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Speaker 4: I love you?

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Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: To go. She was a breath of fresh air, very

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Speaker 4: easy going. We went to a Mexican restaurant and all

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Speaker 4: she did was she just ordered the sashidas.

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Speaker 2: Just like the chicken.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, the fietas are the ones that you

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Speaker 6: can put together yourself. You don't even have to ask

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Speaker 1: You have to choose though, chicken or bee.

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Speaker 6: So I mean already, like as soon as she orders,

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Speaker 4: And I was like totally under her and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: But that's awesome, dude.

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Speaker 6: Did you tell her about your experiences and how refreshing

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Speaker 6: it was to see her order like that?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't want to pramply warn her so that

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Speaker 4: she gets all nervous when she's order her food.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all of that sounds great. You got the

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Speaker 2: green flag with the food order. Tell us what about

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Speaker 2: anything else that stood out on the date with Carla?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I mean she's cute. She has a great personality, and

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Speaker 4: when she spoke about things, she would literally light up.

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Speaker 4: Like one of the questions I asked her I was like,

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Speaker 3: I like that question.

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Speaker 1: On the date, what'd she say?

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Speaker 4: She explained, like how they were like best friends, but

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Speaker 3: Just a pause asking someone about their pets is a

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Speaker 2: Okay, that personally lost me for dating Carla, but I'm

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Speaker 1: You on high maintenance and yes, very low negative energy.

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Speaker 1: If you're just yeah, will get zero.

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Speaker 6: I think that what's sweet is that she lit up

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Speaker 3: It sounds so excited.

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Speaker 1: How'd you mess it up?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: What did you do? How did the rest of the

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Speaker 4: So the rest of the dinner was great. We hung

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Speaker 4: and then we decided we didn't want the night to end,

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Speaker 4: We opened up a bottle of wine and we talked

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Speaker 6: Okay, and she's funny dude.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm coming back around on yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how did you and Carla leave it that night?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I didn't want the night to be over,

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Speaker 4: weird thing, though, is like i'll text her and she'll

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Speaker 3: Are you asking a question? Or are you just saying hi.

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Speaker 4: No a question? Like I'd love to see you again?

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Speaker 4: When can I take you out again? Like thumbs up?

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Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, well, I guess it thumbs up

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Speaker 2: Unless it's not even her answering and her cat has

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Speaker 2: pawing around, liking.

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Speaker 1: Your your text message, it's like, emphasize emphasis.

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Speaker 2: You clearly had a strong connection the first time you

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Speaker 6: Ah, she's given like some positive vibes, it's not like she's.

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Speaker 2: That's what scares me. When we call and talk to her.

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Speaker 2: We have to put up with those positive vibes and

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Speaker 2: right after this. Okay, thanks, appreciate you all right, hold

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Speaker 2: on that second date update. I only do this maybe

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Speaker 3: This guy is so over heels from.

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Speaker 2: Curiously, I'm actually compared to all the other calls that

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Speaker 2: we've done this year, I'm actually going to put effort

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Speaker 2: into this one for our listener, Andy, you're not putting

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Speaker 2: an effort on your body.

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Speaker 6: Leguage doesn't say that arms cruss or sitting down.

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Speaker 1: This is my effort most.

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Speaker 2: Because Andy, he's on the phone with us. Andy, you

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Speaker 2: seem like a genuinely good guy. And the way that

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Speaker 2: you described your date Carla to us, she seems like

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Speaker 2: a really cool person too, because most guys that we

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Speaker 1: Recently, I mean, I told her how much I could

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Speaker 2: And while we're all impressed by that stuff, for sure,

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Speaker 2: you actually focused on Carla's personality and her words, So

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Speaker 2: clearly this means a lot to you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that definitely does. And I appreciate the kind words,

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Speaker 3: Okay from Jeffrey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, rare people get it, so you should

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Speaker 3: What do you think is going on? Why do you

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Speaker 4: No clue to the algie, which is why I reached

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Speaker 4: out to you. It's like it's we had a great conversation,

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Speaker 4: had a great time at dinner, we had a great

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mystery to all of us, and we're

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Speaker 2: running out of time here, so we need to call her.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to dial her number right now. Good luck

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Speaker 1: to me. Here we go, good luck to me.

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Speaker 5: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hey, is Carla there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? This is she?

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Speaker 6: Who is this?

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Speaker 1: Hey? Carla?

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Speaker 2: Hi, Carla, love your name. By the way, my name

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Speaker 2: is Gross. It's jeff and I work on a radio

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Speaker 3: Okay, she sounds like a real sailor, but.

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Speaker 6: It comes in it is.

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Speaker 2: And we're not trying to shock you too much, but

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Speaker 2: we're calling as a favor to a really cool new

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Speaker 2: and you've met him before. He's a guy named Andy.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh whoa interesting?

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Speaker 1: That was a negative?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean maybe it didn't come out right.

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Speaker 3: You remember Andy?

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Speaker 4: Right again? What is this about?

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Speaker 5: I'm just I don't know what this is all about.

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Speaker 1: This is a segment we do called second Date Update.

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Speaker 2: It's about your date and Andy, according to him, said

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Speaker 2: that when you guys hung out, it was a lot

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Speaker 2: there hasn't been a second meetup, because he's really hoping

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just I feel like

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Speaker 5: I probably didn't have gone to his apartment.

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Speaker 2: Gone to his apartment, he said, you guys didn't fool

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Speaker 1: What was weird about his apartment?

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well I'll just say this. There were a lot

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's good.

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Speaker 6: Usually usually bachelors can't figure out frames and take sure together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bought with a frame, like listen, why were

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Speaker 2: framed photos a red flag to you?

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Speaker 5: There there are framed photos of him, of Andy Well.

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Speaker 1: I would hope that they would be him in his

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Speaker 3: No, bro, I'm talking about my art, like him or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 5: Just him, just him when he was graduating, when he's

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Speaker 5: like heading a tiger. I think it was.

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Speaker 3: That's cool.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's a red flag about that? To you?

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Speaker 5: There were twenty of them him.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: But listen, he's a solo guy.

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Speaker 6: He lives by himself, and obviously maybe he just has

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Speaker 6: the cool places he's bit.

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Speaker 1: Twenty plus pictures twenty's a lot.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about normal.

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Speaker 6: But I'm just like, I don't know that it's like

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Speaker 6: She used it as a red flag, and it's the

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that that's fair. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that it is.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a photo of himself flexing.

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Speaker 3: Did he have muscles?

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Speaker 3: Was it good?

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Speaker 5: It was okay at best?

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Speaker 2: I mean we could go into detail and talk about

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Speaker 3: You don't see it as a red flag.

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Speaker 5: I did feel like it was clear to me after

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, Maybe it's that motivational thing people do where

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Speaker 3: He just has twenty of them.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's talking to the graduate.

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Speaker 3: Just came across as such a good guy.

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Speaker 2: I just felt, But I don't know, Maybe we got

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Speaker 2: And he does want to talk to you, Andy, Hi, Carla.

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Speaker 5: Hi. And this is like embarrassing for you. I don't

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Speaker 4: Look, Okay, I'm sorry. I'm I don't have very good

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Speaker 3: That's okay, you could crush on yourself.

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Speaker 2: Can we ask, bro, like, when you were putting up

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Speaker 4: I don't know. If there's just big moments in my

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Speaker 2: Is that the bathroom one? Because I would understand.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, before I've been off the market for a while,

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Speaker 1: Carl are you hearing him?

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Speaker 5: I'm hearing this. I just feel like maybe he could

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Speaker 5: too many photos? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like it didn't register with him at all.

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Speaker 6: Like have you ever had anyone else comment about the

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I don't really, I don't have a lot of people

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Speaker 4: think about decorating with sock target photos of like red

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's not hate on people that like to

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Speaker 1: You should use a woman's touch. Maybe you two can

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Speaker 6: Maybe you have a reasonable amount that he should have, Carla,

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Speaker 6: is there a number and that's okay, of course.

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Speaker 4: Like three macs world could have choose just three for moment.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Andy, I have a good suggestion for you. They

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm definitely open to some options here, but I

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Speaker 6: He's taking this instride. Some people could have gotten really

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Speaker 1: He went through all of this effort just to get

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Speaker 3: With you, and look at what he could look like.

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Speaker 3: I mean that gym picture she was okay, Well.

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Speaker 1: No, it's room for improvement, is what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, if you give me a second date

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Speaker 1: Pictures of you.

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Speaker 2: So, now that you know everything, Carlo, you've heard what

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Speaker 1: We would pay for it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like he was kind of in

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Speaker 6: Or at least turn them around so not all of

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Speaker 2: Okay, you guys can actually do that on your next date.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, pick your top one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm totally down. We'll go out to dinner. Then

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Speaker 4: afterwards you can go back and have a redecoration party.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, Andy, you got another meet up with Carla.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate your how we.

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Speaker 2: Set a goal to get them together and we did it,

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Speaker 3: Hey, yeahs of us.

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Speaker 1: That is our effort for the entire year. We can

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Speaker 6: It in.

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Speaker 3: Freaking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: You know today's second date was a good lesson for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to put effort into things.

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Speaker 2: No, because I have lots of frame photos of myself

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Speaker 1: I believe my thing isn't in any of them. Take

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Speaker 3: But I almost asked what was and that was.

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Speaker 1: No, you can't come over and check it out if

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Speaker 3: I'm good, I might get printed it like a public place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, now I know I need to limit them down

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Speaker 2: do think Brooke actually said it best during the segment

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Speaker 1: That derails a date. Right, Yeah, but good for him.

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Speaker 2: He was open minded, he was willing to change and adjust.

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Speaker 2: That's literally the number one thing you can do to

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's so hard for people these days to

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Speaker 6: well I can fix that. No, that's a great thing

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Speaker 1: After that.

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Speaker 2: They really were a great match and I hope that

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Speaker 2: we do get an update from them soon, and you

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Speaker 2: could be the next couple that we get an update from.

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Speaker 1: If you email the show, well call.

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Speaker 2: That person who's not calling you back and go check

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Speaker 2: out all of our second dates wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: They're available at Rook and Jeffery