1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a learning lesson, isn't it. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 3: Every single week in the NFL season, especially early on, 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: you feel like chapters of the book are starting to unfold, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 3: and we got a bunch more and we're gonna dive 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: in right now alongside Kyle Rudolph, Mark Willard. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Good evening to you around the land. 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: However, you are bringing us in on a football Sunday. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio. Thankful for your presence. We're 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 3: broadcasting live from the tire rack dot com studios. 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Like you said, each 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: and every week, you think you figured it out, and 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, some teams surprise you, and some teams come 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: out and do exactly what you thought they were going 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: to do. So I think that's one of the things 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: that amazes me most that I realized throughout the course 25 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: of my career, this is truly, you know, a one 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: week season. You hear it all the time. It's so 27 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: cliche to say it's how the players approach it. It's how 28 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: the coaches approach it. And when you go and you 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: watch from a fan perspective, from a member of the media, 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: you really see it. We talked about it a little 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: bit last week, how you got to move on from 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: week one and go out there and either get a 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: win in week two if you didn't, or you know, 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: try to just stay hot and improve on what you 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: did the week before. So another exciting Sunday so far. 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: No doubt. 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 3: There are a few teams that we rightfully buried, and 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: I don't mean their season but their performance last week. 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: Who rallied back and made things look a little bit different, 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 3: And we'll get to that shortly coming up. 41 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: But we both wanted to start with one team specifically. 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 3: I was fascinated by a couple of different things by 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: and about this team this week. Because we all pray 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: for miracles in life, we all sing the songs Do 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: you Believe in Miracles? 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: Al Michaels. 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 3: We all talk about miracles, and I would say that 48 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: the idea of tearing your Achilles tendon and being ready 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: to play professional sports four months later sounds like a 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: miracle to me. 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: But this is what we're. 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: Being fed now that doctor Neil Elatrosh has got some 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: magic bullet with regard to the Achilles injury, and that 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers might be ready for January. Kyle, that would 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 3: be a miracle. The problem is, if you're a Jets fan, 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: I think that you're focused on the wrong miracle. The 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 3: miracle would actually be making the playoffs without Aaron Rodgers. 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: I know that the Cowboys are a very good football team. 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: I know that they have a very good defense. But 60 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: I right now am knee deep in quarterbacking options for 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 3: the Jets because Robert Solid can rally the troops all 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: he wants with the whole This is Zach Wilson's football 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: team thing. It's not I hate these labels. I don't 64 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: like to do this to young players, But as far 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 3: as a draft pick, this was a bust. He's not 66 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: the guy. He can't do it, certainly, at least not yet. 67 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: Three more interceptions. Today, stars like Garrett Wilson, who only 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: have two catches, even though one of them went for 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: a long touchdown, largely. 70 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: Because of his ability. 71 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: But I look at this and to me, Kyle, the 72 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: clock is ticking and ticking fast, because the Jets have 73 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: a roster that can really play in this league, but 74 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: they cannot with Zach Wilson at the helm. 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: No, and I don't know what the answer is. We 76 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: talked about a little bit off air, and is going 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: out and getting one of the free agent quarterbacks that 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: are available right now, a better option than Zach Wilson, 79 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: who's been there all offseason around Aaron Rodgers. You'd hope 80 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: he'd learned a little bit from Aaron so far to 81 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: this point, obviously, Aaron's not able to be on the 82 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: sidelines or be around the facility as they prepare this week. Ultimately, 83 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: as Aaron gets healthy enough, he gets back from la 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: where he had surgery, he will be around. He will 85 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: be able to help Zach. But you can't go out 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: there and turn the football over throw three picks. Yeah, 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: you said it. The Cowboys have a really good defense, 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you have to take care 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: of the football. I think the Jets know exactly what 90 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: their recipe for success will be if Zach Wilson is 91 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: the quarterback and tries to get them in the playoffs 92 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: with that talented ross there to do the first leg 93 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: of the miracle there. Like you said, I just it 94 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: makes it really hard when you go out and turn 95 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the football over, and you when you turn the ball over, 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: you can't let that defense that's the strong suit of 97 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: your team have success. You know, you're putting them on 98 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: short fields. You're given that Cowboys offense that's pretty good, 99 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: too easy opportunities, and that's just not going to get 100 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: it done. 101 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 3: Kyle, I shared a text with you before the show 102 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: and I said, why are they not going to get 103 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz? And you immediately were like that that's. 104 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 2: Not the answer either, And I get it. 105 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: Look, Carson Wentz ha been on three different rosters in 106 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: three different years for a reason. Something's going on there, 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: even though statistically he's better than what you would normally 108 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: find just sitting there on his couch going into. 109 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: Week three of the season. 110 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: So let's explore some ideas, because quite frankly, you've got 111 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: a bombshell of an idea. But let's hold that for 112 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: a second. Tell me first, why not Carson Wentz. 113 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: Well, I just think at this point, you know I 114 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: mentioned before about Zach's been there all off season, you know, 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,679 Speaker 1: in the QB room with Aaron Todd Downing that works 116 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: in the quarterback room, Nathaniel Hackett. He's been around all 117 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: of the guys. He has the rapport with the tight 118 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: ends and the receivers, and honestly, I just don't think 119 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: bringing in a Carson Wentz or Nick Foles, Cam Newton, 120 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Yeah, Joe Flacco's been there and he's been around. 121 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: He knows the building, he knows the players in the building. 122 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: He wasn't there because Nathaniel Hackett just got there, so 123 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't been there this offseason to learn that system. 124 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: But I just I don't believe that bringing in that 125 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: caliber quarterback, you know, you're franchise, your season saving quarterback 126 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: is not on the street week three for a reason. 127 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: And again it just to me personally, it goes back 128 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: to Robert Salad talks about Zach Wilson and his confidence, 129 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: and you know last year he didn't have confidence and 130 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: that was the issue, but now he has confidence. Well, 131 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: do you know the quickest way to ruin that confidence 132 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: is to have him go out and throw it twenty 133 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: seven times and throw three picks. It's going to get 134 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: that confidence just crushed immediately. You know, you have two 135 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: really good running backs, you have a defense that you 136 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: have to lean on. Ultimately, I just don't know if 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: the offensive line can hold up or not and provide 138 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: the type of style that the Jets have to play 139 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: when Zach Wilson's under center. So to me, that's the 140 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: big thing. I just don't think someone can come in 141 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: off the street who hasn't taken a single snap of 142 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: training camp football, preseason football, regular season football and be 143 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: better than Zach Wilson. I get it. The bar is 144 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: not that high right now, but I do think he 145 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: does ultimately give them a better chance to If your 146 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: goal is just to make the playoffs, Aaron says, give 147 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: me a chance, I will, I'll in four months, I'll 148 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: be there. Is that going to happen, We don't know, 149 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: But that's his mindset, that's his goal. If that's the 150 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: mentality of the team, you have to get Zach Wilson 151 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: to play in a way where kind of like last 152 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: week against the Bills, you know, he doesn't really go 153 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: out and win the game. Yes, he threw the touchdown 154 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: to Garrett Wilson, which was an awful pass. You know, 155 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson goes and makes an unbelievable catch for the touchdown. 156 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: But you know he doesn't beat you. You know, he's 157 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: not shooting himself in the foot. I had the one 158 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: bad interception last week. But you know, it's like when 159 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: you throw three picks that you don't have a chance. 160 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: So there has to be a mentality change there that really, 161 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, you hate to pigeonhole a quarterback as a 162 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: game manager, but that's what he has to be for 163 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: that offense. And slowly but surely, maybe you can rebuild 164 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: that confidence that Robert Salas says is better than last year, 165 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: which there's no way it can be at this point, 166 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Like there's just yeah, you know, you just scored ten 167 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: points on their road through three picks. 168 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm just not a believer. I'm not 169 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: a believer in Zach Wilson. Now to the point that 170 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: you're trying to make. I will say this, there's one 171 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 3: thing that's sort of a feather in the cap of 172 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 3: the idea of a team like the Jets making the playoffs. 173 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: They've come out. 174 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: They've played horrible offense the whole time for two games. However, 175 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: I'd also argue they probably have had the toughest schedule 176 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: start to anybody in the NFL found a way to 177 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: beat the Buffalo Bills got their doors blown off in 178 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: Dallas today. But don't don't look if you don't have 179 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: it right in front of you, Kyle, do you know 180 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: how many at this moment, do you know how many 181 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: two and o teams there are in this very difficult AFC? 182 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: I do not trying to think because obviously we had 183 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: the top three of the favorites out of the AFC 184 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: that lost last week, so they're no longer undefeated. Do 185 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: we have anybody in the AFC besides the Dolphins, who 186 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: are still yet to play tonight, undefeated. 187 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: You've got you've got to one and oh teams who 188 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: are yet to play. That would be the Miami Dolphins 189 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: and the Cleveland Browns. But to one team has navigated 190 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: Week one and week two unscathed, and that is the 191 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. 192 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: So that's it. 193 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: And they barely pulled it out against Cincinnati today. And 194 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: there's news there that will get to no doubt, because 195 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: things predictably are not going well for the health of 196 00:10:59,400 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. 197 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: So much more on that later on in the show. 198 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: But this AFC, I. 199 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: Think there's already reason to look at it and think 200 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: of all these good teams that are there, but they're 201 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: gonna beat each other up. 202 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 2: They're gonna beat each other up. 203 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: And you know, this AFC may not offer any fourteen 204 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: and three, thirteen and four type seasons, and so maybe 205 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: if you can be one of those nine and eight, 206 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: ten and seven types, maybe you still got a shot 207 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: to find your way into the postseason. 208 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: Well, and I think it's even further than just the 209 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: AFC teams beating each other up. It's the AFC East 210 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: teams beating each other up. You know, the AFC East 211 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: with the Patriots, the Dolphins, the Jets, the Bills. I 212 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: think all four of those teams believe that they're playoff 213 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: caliber teams. So you know, not only are the teams 214 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: in the AFC as a whole gonna beat each other 215 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: up a lot this year, you're also gonna see that 216 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: within that division. 217 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: Well, I mentioned to everybody listening that you have what 218 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: I find to be an incredibly interesting idea for what 219 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: the Jets might be able to do at the quarterback position. 220 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: We'll have you unveil that coming up next. We're brought 221 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: to you by Progressive Insurance. 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What's your idea for the Jets 254 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: at quarterback? 255 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: Well, I think you know, we talked about my thought 256 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: on the free agent market right now and bringing a 257 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: guy in that hasn't played any football through two weeks 258 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: of the NFL season, and so ultimately, what's your other option, 259 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, exploring a trade who across the NFL in 260 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: you know, situation, their teams would be interesting. And to me, 261 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: having a history with the organization, having played with him, 262 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you know they're now off to an zero and two start. 263 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: It's an organization that kind of pushed all pushed all 264 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: their chips in a few years back and said, got 265 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: to an NFC championship game, We're going to go sign 266 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: a high dollar free agent quarterback in Kirk Cousins, and 267 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: we're going to try to get over the hump to 268 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. And ultimately five years in now 269 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: two games into the sixth year, it hasn't worked. And 270 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: it's a team that, in my opinion when you watch 271 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: them on tape, doesn't have the talent around Kirk that 272 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: was there. I'm not saying just on offense. I'm saying 273 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: as a team and as a whole that was there 274 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: during that window to win a championship. So that is 275 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: a team that, in my opinion, they're zero and two. 276 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: Where are they going to go? Is it time to 277 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: finally completely blow it up? They hired a new head coach, 278 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: a new GM kind of redid the entire building. If 279 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: that's the case, if you're the New York Jets, you 280 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: pick up the phone, you call the Minnesota Vikings. I 281 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: think it's worth the conversation because if you look at Kirk, 282 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Kirk is a guy who's on the last year of 283 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: his contract. Kirk is a guy who added some voided 284 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: years to his contract, so his cap number is not 285 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: as high as it once was. And if you're saying that, 286 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: ultimately we have Aaron Rodgers and he'll for sure be 287 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: back next year, maybe he'll be ready to go in 288 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Kirk certainly is a guy as you look 289 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: across the NFL from a starting quarterback standpoint, that would 290 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: give you a great chance to go win enough games 291 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs and play football in January. 292 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: Woof, now that is that's a hell of an idea. 293 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: I have so many questions when you bring it up, 294 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: especially with your history with this player, your history with 295 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: the organization. My first questions, I guess, go to the Vikings, 296 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: because yes, they're zero and two. I think you're very 297 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: much playing the role of someone who is eyes wide 298 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: open and realistic with the Vikings right now. It's not 299 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 3: that an zher and two start means that you're done. 300 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: Historically you will miss the playoffs ninety percent of the time. 301 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: When you start zero and two, and I think there 302 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: are many of us self included. If you want to 303 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: look at last year and say this team was just 304 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: thirteen and five, but man, everything went their way for 305 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: that a negative point differential. They won all the close games. 306 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: We saw what happened to them when they got to 307 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: the playoffs. So I guess my first question would be 308 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 3: does that feel too much right now like the Vikings 309 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: giving up on this season? 310 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: Well, I think you have to ask the question, what 311 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: does success look like in Minnesota? What are their expectations? 312 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: You know, I mentioned that Kirk Cousins was brought to 313 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: Minnesota to get them over the hump to win a 314 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl coming off of a NFC Championship Game loss. 315 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: The quarterback was supposed to be the missing piece that 316 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: put a super talented roster over the hump to win 317 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: a championship. It's an organization that has never won a championship. 318 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: So you know, again we're at this spot from an 319 00:17:54,320 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: organizational standpoint where you win the division last year year, Yes, 320 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: you want eleven one score games, but you win the division, 321 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs and you have another early exit 322 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: from the playoffs. So you know, if they do turn 323 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: things around this year, and you know, you look at 324 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: their schedule. You got the zero to two Chargers coming 325 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: to Minneapolis next week. Then you go on the road 326 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: and play the Carolina Panthers first overall, pick rookie quarterback, 327 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: you have a really good shot at getting back to 328 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: two and two. So I don't think the Vikings can 329 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: look at this season and say, oh, you know it's over, 330 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: like let's give up. You know, we'll we'll trade our quarterback. 331 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: But it's it's where are you going? What are you doing? 332 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: What's the plan? Again? It's a quarterback where he's in 333 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: the last year of his contract. You haven't extended him. 334 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: So why haven't you extended him? Is does he want 335 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: more money or you don't want to keep him? So 336 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: to me, I think there's just a lot to uncover here. 337 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: And again, if I'm the Jets, it's a phone call 338 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: that I have to make to at least find out. 339 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: And if you're the Vikings, I think it's a phone 340 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: call that you have to take. You have to listen. 341 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: You know, what are they willing to give you for 342 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: a guy who ultimately he might not be in your plans? 343 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: And you know, why not get something for him if 344 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: you haven't extended him to this point. And who knows, 345 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: maybe you know a draft class with now it looks 346 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: like three really good quarterbacks at the top. Yeah, might 347 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: be a good year to grab a quarterback. And you know, 348 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: now you're able to build a roster that doesn't have 349 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: such a high dollar quarterback taking so much cap space away. 350 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: And you know, personally, if I'm a GM and I 351 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: take over a team, that's how I would want to 352 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: build one. 353 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: I tell you what, it is such a fascinating conversation. 354 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of NFL teams end up 355 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: in this conversation, and I think each one has to 356 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: be taken kind of individually. I don't think there's a 357 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: blanket answer here, but what to do when the contract 358 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: is up for your quarterback? 359 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: Who is good? 360 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 3: He's good And I'd put Kirk in this category and 361 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 3: maybe at the top of this category. 362 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: But he's good. But ah, you just. 363 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: Don't necessarily feel like he's the one who can get 364 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: you over the top, especially not at that dollar figure, 365 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: and what that does to the rest of your roster. 366 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: You look at teams around the league who are faced 367 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: with this, and there's plenty of decisions that go in 368 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: both directions. 369 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: Forty nine ers moved on from Jimmy. 370 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 3: Garoppolo because they thought, not at that dollar figure, not 371 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: quite good enough, even though he's good. Raiders did the 372 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: same thing with Derek Carr, not quite good enough, even 373 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 3: though he's good. I would put the likes of Dak Prescott, 374 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones now recently, these guys are in that bucket too, 375 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: and they got their deals, but their teams have not 376 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 3: gotten over the top. Certainly, Jones is just getting started 377 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 3: now with his second contract in the NFL. But it's 378 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: an intricate question, case by case, and so I wonder 379 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: if what you're saying is the tea leaves are suggesting 380 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: that Minnesota feels that way, like, Kirk, we love you, 381 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: You've done some really good things, but at that dollar figure, 382 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: it's just not quite good enough. 383 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: Well, and I think that would be a great answer 384 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: to the question is why he's playing in the last 385 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: year of his contract. If you feel like it's good enough, 386 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: why have you not extended that deal. Kirk has made 387 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: it public that he would love this day in Minnesota, 388 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, he was very politically correct 389 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: about oh, you're always playing for your job. When asked 390 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: early in the season, it felt like he had to 391 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: prove it this year, playing in his contract year. And 392 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: ultimately it's either you've proved it. You've been there for 393 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: five years. Either you've proved it and they know or 394 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: the guy moving forward, or they've already made up their mind. 395 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: And to me, that's why I feel like this is 396 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: a conversation that they should explore. You know, you mentioned 397 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers moving on from their 398 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: high dollar quarterback who ultimately took him to the super Bowl. 399 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: You know, they were a super Bowl team with him, 400 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: and you know, a blown second half lead away from 401 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo, and they made 402 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: the decision that they were going to move on for 403 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: a younger, what they thought was talented quarterback that they 404 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: traded a lot of draft picks at number three. Certainly 405 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: it worked out with Brock Perdy, but you know, that's 406 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of that philosophy. Can you get close enough to 407 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: the top in the draft where we're going to take 408 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: a guy that we believe on a rookie contract we 409 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: can build around and have more success with. The forty 410 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: nine ers are number one in the NFL with forty 411 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: five million in cap space, and they're, in my opinion, 412 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: have one of the most talented rosters in the NFL. 413 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: They have guys everywhere, and yet they're number one right 414 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: now in cap space. And it's all because they don't 415 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: have that high dollar quarterback. 416 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 2: And in fact, they now have. 417 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: And I haven't looked at this to be sure, but 418 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: I'm confident that they have the lowest priced starting quarterback 419 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 3: in the entire NFL. I think brock Perty's making eight 420 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy thousand this year, which is hysterical, quite frankly, 421 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: and when yeah. 422 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say it is. And it allows you 423 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: to have the highest paid or one of the highest 424 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: paid left tackles in football, one of the highest paid 425 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: tight ends in football, one of the highest paid running 426 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: backs in football, one of the highest paid linebackers in football. 427 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: You can put so much talent on a roster when 428 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: your quarterback is on a rookie deal. So you know, 429 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I think it's a conversation that both sides 430 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: should have. I think certainly the Jets would be like this, 431 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: this is our best opportunity bar none. For the Vikings, 432 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: it's something, Hey, you know, maybe we going into this year, 433 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: we certainly did not think this is where things were 434 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: gonna go, But we need to listen. Do I think 435 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: it's realistic? Absolutely not. I think that's just us putting 436 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: our GM hats on and thinking, what is the ideal scenario. 437 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: What is the most interesting scenario. I think something that 438 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: would be more likely. And personally, if I'm the Jets 439 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: and we're trying to figure out what's the solution, not 440 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: name Zach Wilson. You look at some veteran backup quarterbacks 441 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: in the NFL that you could trade for who you 442 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: know I mentioned before, these free agent guys are coming 443 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: in off the street. They haven't thrown a ball in 444 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: a live rep all year. You have guys like Jacobe Burssett, 445 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, Teddy Bridgewater, Blaine Gabbert, veteran quarterbacks who and 446 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: come in and if you're saying all you got to 447 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: do is hold the patent, you know you're the placeholder 448 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: for the next four months. Get us nine wins, get 449 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: us ten wins with a super talented roster and a 450 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: really good defense. I like my chances with those guys 451 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: more than Zach Wilson. 452 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally get it. I totally agree and got 453 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 3: to do it fast. Their schedules crazy right out of 454 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 3: the gate, the Viking side of this, And again, I 455 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 3: know you said it's not necessarily all that realistic, but 456 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: if it were to become a conversation, there's another Viking 457 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: side question to ask, which we'll do here in a 458 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: couple of minutes. 459 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: But it's Steve Desager time. 460 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: Let's get him on in here, third member of our team. 461 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: Find out everything that's going on out and about Hi. 462 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: Steve Howdy. 463 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 6: It's zero zero Dolphins at Patriots, about eight minutes to 464 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 6: go in the first quarter of the Sunday night NFL game. 465 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 6: New England had it first for almost five minutes, but 466 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 6: barely got to midfield and punted. Now it's Miami's first drive. 467 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 6: As far as the inactives missing an edge rusher are 468 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 6: the Dolphins Jalen Phillips out he heard his back in 469 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 6: practice week, and tackle toront Armstead is still out. Meanwhile, 470 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 6: for the Patriots, they get a couple of guards back, 471 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 6: but they're without starting tackle Trent Brown, he did not 472 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 6: practice all week due to a concussion, and defensive back 473 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 6: Jonathan Jones is out. As for the late afternoon games 474 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 6: to just see the finish. In Denver, Washington is two 475 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 6: and oh after winning thirty five thirty three over the Broncos, 476 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 6: who scored a touchdown at the end out a hail. 477 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 6: Mary had to go for two and miss the two 478 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 6: point pass on the final play, lost thirty five thirty three. 479 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 6: Washington had trailed twenty one to three late in the 480 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 6: second quarter on the road and got a w out 481 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 6: of it. Giants wanted Arizona thirty one to twenty eight. 482 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 6: Giants trailed twenty eight to seven late in the third quarter. 483 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 6: Late field goal gets in the win. Running Back Saquon 484 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: Barkley had two touchdowns but left with an ankle injury 485 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 6: oh and two. Record for Arizona. Dallas is two and 486 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 6: oh after ripping the Jets thirty to ten. Ceedee Lamb 487 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 6: eleven catches, one hundred and forty three yards. Dallas white 488 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 6: out Brandon Cooks did not play due to a knee injury. 489 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 6: San Francisco two and oh after beating the Rams thirty 490 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 6: to twenty three. Christian McCaffrey one hundred and sixteen yards 491 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 6: rushing in a touchdown. A lot of red in the 492 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 6: stands on the road there and for the chief a 493 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 6: lot of red in the stands on the road and 494 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 6: Chiefs won at Jacksonville seventeen to nine. Tight End Travis Kelce, 495 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 6: returned after missing the opener due to a knee injury, 496 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 6: did have a touchdown catch, but on nine targets, he 497 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 6: had four receptions twenty six yards. Baltimore's two and oh 498 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 6: after winning at Cincinnati twenty seven to twenty four. Quarterback 499 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 6: Joe burrow in the lost two touchdowns, one interception near 500 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 6: the end zone, and he said he aggravated his strained 501 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 6: calf late in the game. Overtime win for Seattle at 502 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 6: Detroit's overtime win for Tennessee against the Chargers, Atlantic's two 503 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 6: and oh after edging Green Bay twenty five twenty four, 504 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 6: the Falcons were down twenty four to twelve early in 505 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter. Victories for Buffalo and Tampa Bay at home, 506 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 6: and Indy won on the road thirty one twenty at 507 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 6: oh to two Houston, but rookie quarterback of the cole 508 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson, who had two touchdowns, left before halftime with 509 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 6: a concussion. A reminder there are two games on Monday. 510 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 6: Colorado says two Way star Travis Hunter will miss a 511 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: few weeks. He took a late hit last night and 512 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 6: was taken to the hospital. Number nineteen ranked, Colorado is 513 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 6: at number ten Oregon on Saturday. By the way, the 514 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 6: PAC twelve has eight teams ranked in the new polls. 515 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 6: UCLA's at Utah this Saturday on Fox TV just in 516 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 6: time to disband. Oregon State is at Washington State. Even 517 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 6: those two are ranked as they get ready to play 518 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 6: against each other. Well, SEC has six teams ranked, and 519 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 6: Alabama's going to play Old Miss this weekend. But Bama 520 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 6: is out of the top ten for the first time 521 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 6: in eight years, down to number thirteen, and deservedly so 522 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 6: if you saw the game yesterday. But after one hundred 523 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 6: and twenty eight straight weeks, they are not a top 524 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 6: ten club. The record is still one hundred and thirty 525 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 6: seven straights in the top ten by the Miami Hurricanes 526 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 6: through nineteen ninety three. And in baseball tonight, Diamondbacks lead 527 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 6: three to two over the Cubs bottom of the fourth inning. 528 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: Back to here, guys, I spent the entire day at 529 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: PAC twelve Network yesterday hosting through all of those games, 530 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: and the only thing I could the only way I 531 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: can describe it is the sheepishness of the idea that 532 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: as it disbands, this might be it is set up 533 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: to be the most epic conference this year, the most 534 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: epic year in recent memory in the PAC twelve eight 535 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 3: ranked teams, and I don't know how many quarterbacks who 536 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 3: are going to. 537 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: The league, that's right. I just all looking incredible, just the. 538 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 6: Big four quarterbacks like USC and the Oregon quarterback and 539 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 6: your Washington Washington State. It's like forty touchdowns one interception 540 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 6: combined so far. It's ridiculous. 541 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: Right, Pennix junior at Washington incredible. Caleb Williams, we know, 542 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: probably on his way to being the number one pick 543 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: in the draft Heisman Trophy. But when you get to 544 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: cam Ward, we haven't even seen cam rising yet. On 545 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: and on like it. It is an embarrassment of riches. 546 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 3: As you said, Steve, just in time for everybody to leave. 547 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 6: There was already a suggestion late last night after the 548 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 6: Stanford result. They lost it home to Sacramento State on 549 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: a late touchdown. Hey, maybe sax State can give a 550 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 6: call and make it a pack three next year. Geographically, 551 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 6: you know they were great in the FCS. 552 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: It's crazy, absolutely crazy, Steve, thanks appreciate it, Kyle. Steve 553 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: also mentioned that crazy finish in Denver between Washington and 554 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: the Broncos. I don't know if you saw the last play, 555 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: the two pointer to Courtland Sutton. I definitely wanted your response. 556 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 3: As a past catcher, a red zone player, was that 557 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: past interference? It certainly looked like it to me, And 558 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: that was a wild finish and I would have loved 559 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: to see more it was. 560 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, certainly, you get the Hail Mary at the 561 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: end of the game and score a touchdown, it's such 562 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: a high for your team, and then all you have 563 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: to do is execute the two point conversion to send 564 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: it to overtime, and you watch the play. Guys are 565 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: crossing the field. It's it's such a small area of 566 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: the football field. There's only twelve yards. You have ten 567 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: yards of the end zone and the two yards out 568 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: in the field where the two point play takes place. 569 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: And I mean there was Courtland Sutton was running across 570 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: the field, Jerry Judy is running across the field, and 571 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: you know everybody's just crossing. You're trying to create the chaos, 572 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: ultimately hoping someone gets lost. Russell Wilson can find the 573 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: open guy, and you know, if you watch it play out, 574 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: I think Jerry Judy may have popped out the backside there, 575 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: but in that situation, in those circumstances, it's gonna was 576 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: it past interference most likely? I think that that's a play. 577 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: You know, if they would have called it on third 578 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: and two out in the field, it probably gets called. 579 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: But it's in the low red zone. There's bodies everywhere 580 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: in such a condensed part of the field. It's no 581 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: official is going to make that call. They just they 582 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: won't make that call, and it makes it tough when 583 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: you have twenty two bodies in a twelve yard area 584 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: that's going to happen. 585 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: Ty rack dot Com Studios. That's Kyle Rudolph alongside. I'm 586 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: Mark Withard and we are working our way through game two. 587 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: The interesting idea you threw out there about twenty minutes ago, 588 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: and yes, just so everyone knows, you're saying this is unrealistic, 589 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: but maybe a phone call is made. What are the 590 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: Vikings plans at quarterback going forward? And if they don't 591 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: include Kirk Cousins, if you're the Jets, do you make 592 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: a call? I have another very large looming question or 593 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: maybe large looming person that would need to be involved 594 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 3: in a conversation like that on the Viking side. We'll 595 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: get to that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. 596 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: All Right, ty Rack dot Com Studios with Kyle Rudolph 597 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio, Week two. As we go 598 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: into the night, Dolphins have a three to nothing lead 599 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: on New England, but the Patriots driving late in the 600 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: first quarter. Will keep you all up to date on 601 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football. Kyle, I wonder what your thought is 602 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: on this again, just kind of weaving our way through 603 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 3: the Jets quarterback conversation, you brought up the Vikings they're 604 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: owing to what's their plan with Kirk Cousins going forward? Obviously, 605 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 3: the big money deal that the Vikings are focused on 606 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 3: going forward will be that of Justin Jefferson. For my money, 607 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: that's the best receiver in the game. They have not 608 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 3: gotten it figured out as of yet. I have no 609 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: doubt that they will. But how does he and his 610 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: contractual situation factor in to a topic like this. 611 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: I think it plays a huge factor into it because 612 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: you think about moving forward, if you're going to continue 613 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: to pay a quarterback that upper Eschelon money. How can 614 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: you then go pay a receiver thirty plus million. That's 615 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: where the bar is. Tyreek Hill is making thirty million 616 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: dollars a year. Justin Jefferson should not sign for a 617 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: penny less. He is unequivocally the best wide receiver in football. 618 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: He's proved it through the first three years of his career, 619 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: and he's off to an incredible start now this year. 620 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:21,439 Speaker 1: He's the main focus of that offense. Everything goes through him. 621 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: You watch him on tape. He's outside, he's in the slot, 622 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: he's motioning all over the field to get one on 623 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: one matchups. Everything that they do goes through Justin Jefferson. 624 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: And how you can't possibly pay him what he's worth 625 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: and what he's going to command when you have those 626 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: other contracts, like a big quarterback contract on the salary 627 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: cap as well. 628 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: Here's the thing about Justin I agree with everything you 629 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 3: just said, I also find this whole discussion to be 630 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: pretty scary if I'm Justin Jefferson, because not that it's 631 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: about stats. 632 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: It's obviously not. 633 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 3: I'm sure after watching that guy play football, he wants 634 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 3: to win. He wants to win as badly as anybody 635 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: But for instance, I think about Garrett Wilson a lot 636 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 3: right now when we started this conversation. 637 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson is. 638 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 3: A guy who I think, I mean, he could have 639 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,479 Speaker 3: led the NFL in receiving this year. 640 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 2: He was a candidate to do that with Aaron Rodgers 641 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 2: as his quarterback. 642 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: And now Garrett is going to have a hard time 643 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 3: getting to three or four catches per game with Zach 644 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: Wilson out there. If I'm justin, how do I feel 645 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: about the idea of not keeping Kirk Cousins and going 646 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 3: into that vortex of we don't have a quarterback and 647 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 3: we might draft someone and then you know, you put 648 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 3: your hands together and you hope, you hope that that 649 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: young kid can play. 650 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: That is a game changer for a wide receiver. 651 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: It is the situation that comes to mind thinking about 652 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: high paid quarterback, high paid wide receiver Tyreek Hill, Patrick Mahomes, 653 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Ultimately, the Kansas City Chiefs made 654 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: the tough decision to trade Tyreek Hill to the Miami Dolphins, 655 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: where he could get paid thirty million dollars a year. 656 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: Why can he be paid thirty million dollars a year? 657 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: Because Tua is on a rookie contract. So you know, ultimately, 658 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 1: I think again it goes down to what's the Vikings 659 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: plans moving forward. You know, this is a draft that 660 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: if we're already looking ahead to the draft and you're 661 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: saying that Kirk Cousins is not going to be our 662 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: guy moving forward, you know, maybe we'll try to find 663 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: a bridge guy out there in free agency this year 664 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: that we don't have to pay top dollar for and 665 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: try to get one of these three quarterbacks that are 666 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: coming out that you know, could potentially be our guy 667 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: moving forward. And now we have an opportunity because we 668 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: have a quarterback on a rookie contract, to pay justin 669 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: what he commands and what he deserves, but then also 670 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: build around him as you've seen the Miami Dolphins doing 671 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: with Tyreek Kill and the rest of that offense. Because 672 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: Tua Toungoloa is on a rookie contract. 673 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I totally get it. Here's the thing, 674 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: and nobody wants to talk about it's the dirtiest word 675 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 3: in sports, which is tanking. And so I'm certainly not 676 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 3: going to suggest that, but you're bringing up all kinds 677 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 3: of interesting points here. If truly the Minnesota Vikings do 678 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 3: not have Kirk Cousins in their future plans, then I'm 679 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 3: going to go back to your idea and say, why 680 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 3: is it not realistic for them to trade him to 681 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 3: the New York Jets. Because if I'm the Minnesota Vikings 682 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: and I've already decided that Kirk Cousins is not going 683 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: to be in my future plans because I'm gonna spend 684 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 3: that money on Justin Jefferson instead of a thirty six 685 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 3: year old quarterback, well, I would argue then that losing 686 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 3: this year would help because there are a lot of 687 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: teams that are gonna be after the Caleb Williams of 688 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: the world and these other quarterbacks who are coming out, 689 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 3: and you are not going to be helped by keeping 690 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins and grinding out a nine to eight year 691 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 3: or a ten and seven year You're gonna end up 692 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: with the sixteenth pick in the draft, and that's not 693 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: gonna be good enough. So why wouldn't their ears be 694 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: open if they've already decided that Kirk's not in their 695 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 3: future plans? 696 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: Again, I think it goes to the nature of everyone 697 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: in these organizations. You never want to throw in the 698 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: towel at this point in the season and concede the 699 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: fact that all right, we're not ultimately going to reach 700 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: the goal. We're moving on. And here's where we're gonna 701 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: do it. We're gonna trade Kirk Cousins to the New 702 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: York Jets. Get some picks. I don't know what picks 703 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: they could get for him, but personally, you look at 704 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: their schedule again, zero to two Chargers at Carolina. This 705 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: Vikings team, as bad as they've been, you know, negative 706 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: six in the turnover margin, two, they still had two 707 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: cl and they could get back to in a division 708 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: that's not that great. 709 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 2: Fair enough, Yes, it's a it's a division. 710 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: The Bears have come out and and well the Bears, 711 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 3: I guess are who we thought they were. The Packers 712 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 3: are interesting, though they could not close the deal today. 713 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: Uh and and and the Lions today have a blemish 714 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 3: as well, trouble in Cincinnati, which is where we're going next. 715 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 3: Mark will and Kyle Rudolf Fox Sports Radio. 716 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 717 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 718 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 719 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 5: listen live. 720 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah week two, and it is getting good already. 721 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 2: The parody throughout the league. 722 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 3: As we said at this hour, there's one, count them, 723 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: one two and zero teams in the AFC. We knew 724 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: the AFC was good, but maybe there's more parody across 725 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 3: the league than we think. 726 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 2: We'll get to. 727 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 3: That in just a moment, along with Kyle Rudolph here 728 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 3: Mark Willard on Fox Sports Radio all across the land. 729 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 3: Glad you are with us tonight. We're broadcasting live from 730 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 3: the tyrack dot com studios. Tyrack dot com will help 731 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 3: you get there unmatt selection, fast free shipping, free erdazard 732 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 3: protection and over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyrack dot com 733 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 3: the way tire buying should be. The Bengals went oh 734 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 3: to two last year, then they ended up in the 735 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 3: AFC Championship game. They're OH to two again this year. 736 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 3: But it's a very very different O and two. You 737 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 3: said to me last week, Joe Burrow looks like a 738 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 3: who didn't have any training camp and may or may 739 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: not be fully healthy. Well, now we know that he's 740 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 3: not fully healthy because he's had a set back with 741 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 3: that calf injury. They do not know the exact seriousness. 742 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: All they said was that if the Bengals had gotten 743 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 3: the ball again late, yes, he would have gone back in. 744 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 3: But what is his status going forward? That's a question mark. 745 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 3: And they're already facing another oh and two start, which, 746 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 3: as I said earlier, the metrics tell you you've only got 747 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: a ten percent chance to make the playoffs when you 748 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 3: do that. So how serious of a situation are we 749 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 3: looking at in Cincinnati. 750 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that calfs are tricky, and I think, honestly, 751 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: for me, that was something that I had worried about 752 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: when he had it during training camp, took the time 753 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: off rehab to come back. You see guys that have 754 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: the calf injury throughout the course of the year. It's 755 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: probably the one that's aggravated the most, even more so 756 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: than a hamstring. It's not something that just four weeks 757 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: of rehab and all of a sudden it's gone and 758 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: everything's all better for the rest of the season. So, 759 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: quite honestly, I think, first and foremost, Joe Burrow's calf 760 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: worries me a whole lot more than the and two start. 761 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: They have the Los Angeles Rams coming to Cincinnati next week, 762 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: then they go to Tennessee, then they two Arizona. So 763 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: you look at their next three games, a tough road 764 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,959 Speaker 1: game at Tennessee. The Titans are always tough. They play 765 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: a tough style of football. You have a one to 766 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: one RAMS team coming to town right away this week, 767 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: and then you go to the Cardinals. And we've talked 768 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: about the Cardinals. So the and two start, they proved 769 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: last year that they can get things back on track. 770 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: And we talk about this last week almost at nauseum 771 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: that the month of September, if you can just get 772 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: to two and two, that's all that really matters. You're 773 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: not gonna win the super Bowl in September. But the 774 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: other part that I said is you certainly can lose 775 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And one way to lose the super 776 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: Bowl in September for the Cincinnati Bengals would be an 777 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: unhealthy Joe Burrow. 778 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I look at that. 779 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 3: The schedule is a fascinating game to play because not 780 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: just as it rams, and that's a Monday night er, 781 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 3: by the way, so they do get an extra day. 782 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if that helps, maybe even just in 783 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 3: some sort of a tiny way. The road games at Tennessee, 784 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 3: at Arizona, and then you're back home the following week 785 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 3: to Seattle, So you know, can you even can you 786 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: even win? Just like a couple of those, can you 787 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: end up at two and four? Can you end up 788 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 3: at three and three? Because if you don't, Kyle, you 789 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 3: get a bye week in week seven, and then you're 790 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 3: gonna get a road trip to San Francisco followed by 791 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills coming to town in a one to 792 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: two punch Sunday Night football the first week in November. 793 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: Now we're getting way ahead of ourselves. That's week nine. 794 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: Who knows what in God's name is going to be 795 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 3: going on by then. But you get what I'm saying, 796 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 3: Like I'm with you, this is a different and two 797 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 3: than last year because it's not the oh and two 798 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 3: at all. 799 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 2: It's the calf and you've got. 800 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 3: Jamar Chase who has barely gotten going at all. 801 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 2: So far this year. 802 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 3: The frustration is going to boil up for sure, the 803 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 3: injury if they cannot get it healthy. I mean, that's 804 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 3: their bread and butter. That's why they're doing fifty five 805 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 3: million dollars. 806 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 2: A year for that player. 807 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 3: And so this next stretch of four games, if they 808 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 3: can't get it figured out, at least to a certain degree, 809 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 3: it does feel like one of the top five Super 810 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 3: Bowl favorites is already sort of facing a season on 811 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: the brink. 812 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: No question. And you look at the start. Oh and 813 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: two is one thing. Oh and two in the division 814 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: is a completely another thing. They lost on the road 815 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,919 Speaker 1: in Cleveland and at home at Baltimore. So yes, you're 816 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: oh and two. And we've talked about the fact that 817 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: they clawed their way out of the oh and two 818 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 1: hole last year, but it wasn't two straight division losses 819 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 1: to teams who arguably are going to be probably the 820 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: two that you're competing for come December January, for that 821 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: division title, for a wildcard spot in the AFC. So 822 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: I think that's another reason why this O and two 823 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: feels a whole lot different, aside from the fact that 824 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's health is also in question. It's two division losses, 825 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: one on the road and one at home to start 826 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: the year as well. 827 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 3: It's just so funny we get this reminder every year, 828 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 3: and for some reason we need that reminder. It always 829 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 3: comes right around now, late September, early October. By next year, 830 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: next August, next September, we will all gather back together 831 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 3: and we'll go, well, well, this is who's gonna win 832 00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 3: the eight divisions, and here are the handful of wild 833 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 3: card contenders this year, and it will largely be based 834 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 3: on what we saw the year before, and then a 835 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 3: few offseason editions or subtractions might change our thought on it. 836 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 2: And then Kyle, the season starts and we. 837 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: Go, oh, I didn't expect half of this to be happening. 838 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 3: I mean, look at what's happening already in the AFC. Again, 839 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 3: as we said, there's only one two to zero team. 840 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 3: The Bills got right today, but by the same token, 841 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 3: that was a rough opening for them. Aaron Rodgers doesn't 842 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 3: play football this year. Joe Burrow and the Bengals are 843 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 3: facing Defcon five. The Broncos and Chargers are both zero 844 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 3: to two. I mean, the whole thing, to a degree 845 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 3: already feels like it's been flipped on its head. 846 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think that's the beauty of an NFL offseason, though. 847 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 1: It's all the teams positioning themselves as best they can. Honestly, 848 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 1: every team goes into the year expecting to win a 849 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. If you don't have expectations of winning a 850 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,479 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, then you know, why are you even going 851 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: out there, Why are you strapping it up each week 852 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: to go out on the field on Sundays and compete, 853 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: And then that therefore it trickles to the fan bases 854 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,479 Speaker 1: as well. And you know, I remember during my time 855 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: in Minnesota, we had a few tough years. We had 856 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: some good years as well, playoff appearances. But even after 857 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: the tough years, in the off season, it was always 858 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: about next year and we're going to get back to 859 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs next year. And you know, we got this 860 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: guy now, and we got that guy, and we're going 861 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: to do this. And that's the nature of NFL off seasons. 862 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're talking about the teams and the 863 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: additions and oh yeah, maybe they lost this guy, but 864 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: they have this guy now and this is going to 865 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: make them better in these situations. And it's us in 866 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: the media, it's fans. We all do it. We all 867 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: look at it. And you know, honestly, when you look 868 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: at the AFC, the quarterback play amongst all of the 869 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: top teams is just so good that you look at 870 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: every team down along the line and you know, there 871 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: was a reason why the top three favorites in the 872 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 1: in the AFC, excuse me, were Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati? 873 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: Quarterback play? Quarterback play? Quarterback play? And now here we are, 874 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: almost two weeks through the NFL season in zero to two, 875 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: one and one, one and one. Buffalo looked a lot 876 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: better this week. You know, Josh Allen bounced back. He 877 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: had talked about deleting all of his social media and 878 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,760 Speaker 1: not paying attention to everything that was said last week, 879 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: and he went out and he played well today. He 880 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: played exactly how the Josh Allen that you expect to 881 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: lead the Bills to the playoffs and ultimately getting them 882 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,399 Speaker 1: to a super Bowl should play. But Kansas City goes 883 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, and you know, Travis Kelcey to me, still 884 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: doesn't look like the Travis Kelcey we all are a 885 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: customed to seeing. Yeah, he got back in the end zone, 886 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: had four catches on nine targets for twenty something yards. 887 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: So you know that's certainly not the dynamic Travis kelce 888 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: that we're used to seeing. So yeah, where are kind 889 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: of all these monsters in the AFC that we expected 890 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: in the offseason. 891 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 3: No, they've scored thirty seven points in two games, and 892 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 3: you can point to Travis Kelce all you want. I 893 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 3: don't think that one player turns them into a thirty 894 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 3: three point per game machine when right now what you're 895 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 3: getting is about eighteen points per game. You know, that's 896 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 3: the Lions and the Jaguars. They're both solid enough. Those 897 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 3: aren't bad defenses. They're not great defenses either. Look, the 898 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 3: big narrative last year was the Chiefs let Tyreek Hill 899 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 3: go and they still won the Super Bowl anyway, and 900 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 3: Tom Brady was famous for this year after year win 901 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl without superstars at receiver. But early on 902 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: I'd say something is missing there. Something is missing with 903 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 3: that receiving corps. I don't know if it's just missing 904 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 3: some experience, right even a guy like Juju Smith Schuster 905 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 3: leaving last year, it just looks sort of directionless. You 906 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 3: can't really figure out who it is that they want 907 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 3: to target, who they want a feature in that offense, 908 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,959 Speaker 3: even the stable of running backs they've brought in. There's 909 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 3: a dynamic flavor that we're used to with the Chiefs 910 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,680 Speaker 3: offense that's missing right now, and I think you can 911 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 3: see it on the scoreboard. 912 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting that you say that, because when 913 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: I think about Tom Brady and all those New England 914 00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: Patriot teams that kind of reloaded year after year and 915 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: guys would leave and they would ultimately continue to go 916 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: to Super Bowls and win Super Bowls. I think back 917 00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: to some of their early starts and you know, losing 918 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: to Kansas City in Kansas City, and everybody wanted to 919 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: write the Patriots off that year, and you know, Tom 920 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 1: Brady's done, New England, the dynasty's over, and it was 921 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: the whole Cincinnati Bengals were on to Cincinnati Bill Belichick 922 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 1: press conference, and you know, I kind of getting that 923 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: feeling from Kansas City right now. It's it's Kansas City. 924 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, you know you're gonna have a chance. You 925 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: just got to figure out what your identity is on offense. 926 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: And you know, each and every week, if they can 927 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: go out and win these games that don't look pretty 928 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 1: and they're not scoring thirty three points a game, that's 929 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: just another week where Patrick got experience with receivers that 930 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: he's bringing along. And I think you really saw that 931 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: last year. The more reps he got with those receivers 932 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: in practice, the more weeks they played together, the better 933 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: they got. As the year when on and you know, 934 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: when you can go to Jacksonville, who's the favorite in 935 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: the AFC South YEP to win that division, win on 936 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,200 Speaker 1: the road. It's a good win early in the year, 937 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: whether you played up to your standard or not, when 938 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to replace those guys on the outside in 939 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: the wide receiver room and figure out what's our identity 940 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: without a healthy Travis Kelce. In my opinion, it's a 941 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,400 Speaker 1: really good win early in the year as they're just 942 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: getting another week of experience. 943 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, certainly not trying to write the Chiefs off, 944 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 3: Bears and Jets their next two opponents, so they're going 945 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 3: to be big favorites as we look forward. 946 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 2: There. 947 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 3: We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling 948 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 3: easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by combining 949 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 3: your motorcycle, RV, BOTE ATV and more all your protection 950 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 3: in one place. Bundle and say at Progressive dot com. 951 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 3: All right, we talked a little bit about Zach Wilson. 952 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 3: Forget about the rest of the quarterbacks in his draft 953 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 3: class from two years ago, because there's another QB in 954 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 3: that group that must be discussed tonight. We will do 955 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 3: that coming up next along with Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark 956 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 3: Willard on Fox Sports Radio all Right with Liventhetirack dot 957 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 3: Com Studios with Kyle Rudolph. 958 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm Mark Willard. 959 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 3: Week two of the NFL season is upon us. You 960 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:33,240 Speaker 3: had said last hour we were talking about the Jets, 961 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 3: the Vikings came up, the Kirk Cousins situation, and in 962 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 3: that you're like, Hey, the Vikings can't really like punt 963 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 3: on the season yet you know they're not in the 964 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 3: strongest of divisions. Detroit the sexy pick in that division. 965 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 3: A little bit of the shine comes off today with 966 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 3: a home come from a head loss. But let's go 967 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 3: elsewhere in that division. I am disappointed in what I'm 968 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,000 Speaker 3: seeing from the Chicago Bears this year. 969 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 2: Year three. 970 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 3: Justin Fields, this is supposed to be the year that 971 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 3: we're we're going to see a thing or two, and Kyle, 972 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,720 Speaker 3: it is off to a terrible start. 973 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: What do you see? 974 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 3: What do you see in Justin Field's game and the 975 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 3: way that the team is setting him up for success 976 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 3: or lack? 977 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: They're up something that we talked about a lot last 978 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,439 Speaker 1: week when I said the Chicago Bears were my most 979 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: in this disappointing team in Week one because of everything 980 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: that they did in the offseason, not because of expectations 981 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: we had. You know, we weren't expecting the Bears to 982 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: come out and run away with the NFC North. But 983 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:45,320 Speaker 1: you know they put pieces around justin fields like DJ 984 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: Moore to allow him to take that step from year 985 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,880 Speaker 1: two to year three. And we talked about last week. 986 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 1: It doesn't look like they trust him. The decisions that 987 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: are being made, the way the game's being called. He 988 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 1: through a twenty nine times today and you know most 989 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 1: of those came the last two drives of the game 990 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: when they were trying to come from behind the fourth 991 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: quarter at Tampa Bay. But you turn it over twice, 992 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: one of them for a pick six on a screen 993 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: pass by an outside linebacker. You know, those are just 994 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: those are passes and decisions that you can't make when 995 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: you're trying to get your team over the hump to 996 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 1: prove to this organization that I'm the guy. I'm the 997 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: person that you should build around, and I'm going to 998 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 1: run with this opportunity. 999 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 2: I think that you said something that's interesting there. 1000 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 3: Because it's always chicken or the egg for me, you 1001 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 3: seek it doesn't look like the Bears trust him, and 1002 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 3: then I watch him play and I go, there might 1003 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 3: be a reason. So when an organization doesn't trust a quarterback, 1004 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 3: I can tell you that the city of San Francisco 1005 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 3: just went through this conversation and has been for the 1006 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 3: better part of a year with another guy who was 1007 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 3: in the exact same class, and that's Trey Lance. You know, 1008 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,439 Speaker 3: when he broke his ankle last year running the ball 1009 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 3: in between the tackles, a lot of people went, why 1010 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 3: are you doing that? 1011 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 2: That's dangerous? Right? 1012 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 3: Why is that the sort of the way you're calling 1013 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 3: plays well? The way things have played out, I think 1014 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 3: people are starting to see to a degree, not that 1015 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 3: it's okay to put the quarterback in harm's way or 1016 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 3: whether that's even what Kyle Shanahan was doing. The point 1017 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 3: is is they changed their offensive game plan because they 1018 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 3: didn't feel like Trey Lance could execute what they were 1019 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 3: trying to do. He was not accurate enough, his decision 1020 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 3: making was not strong enough, And I wonder if we're 1021 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,239 Speaker 3: looking at the same thing here with justin Field. So 1022 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 3: when you see that, you watch a football game and 1023 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 3: you're like, man, it doesn't feel like the organization trusts 1024 00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 3: that quarterback. 1025 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 2: You know this, Like we fans go, why don't you 1026 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 2: trust him? 1027 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,479 Speaker 3: And the coaches are like, because we see him every day, 1028 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 3: Like we have a reason. So shaking to the egg 1029 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 3: there right, Like is if they don't trust him, do 1030 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 3: they have do they not have a good reason for that? 1031 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, you hit the nail on the head that 1032 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: we see him every day at practice. I think that 1033 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: was a funny quote from Mike Zimmer in Minnesota a 1034 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: couple of years ago when when Vikings fans were calling 1035 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: for Kellen Munn, a third round pick for the Vikings, 1036 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: to get a chance late in the year when the 1037 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,040 Speaker 1: season was lost. I believe it was in the twenty 1038 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: one season, and they're like, why, you know, why don't 1039 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: we get a chance to see Kellen munt And Mike 1040 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: Zimmer said in his press conference, because I see him 1041 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 1: every day at practice. And it's like, is this something 1042 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: where the Chicago Bears staff just doesn't trust him? 1043 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 2: You know? 1044 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: Certainly you look, you look at the stats from the game, 1045 00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 1: and there is nowhere in the Chicago Bears Keys to 1046 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: victory where it says run for sixty seven yards and 1047 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: have justin fields throw it twenty nine times as the 1048 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: way they thought they would go to Tampa and win 1049 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: a game against a good defense. That's one thing you 1050 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 1: know in Tampa that I think has played a huge 1051 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 1: part into their two and zero start. Certainly, Baker's kind 1052 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: of found lightning in a bottle down there a little bit. 1053 00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: He played solid in week one. He's done exactly what 1054 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 1: he has to do for that team to win games. 1055 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: Then he goes out and does it again. Mike Evans 1056 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: has a huge day, six catches for one p seventy 1057 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,240 Speaker 1: one and a touchdown, just doing what Mike Evans does 1058 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,479 Speaker 1: year in and year out. But it's like that's that's 1059 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: where the Bears need to be living, Like you need 1060 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: to get justin fields to not throw it as much. 1061 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 1: Have very high percentage completions off of the run game 1062 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: and the RPO world in the play action game, run 1063 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: the ball for one hundred and twenty yards and then 1064 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,200 Speaker 1: hit some shots here and there, when all of a sudden, 1065 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: the safeties have to get down in the box. They 1066 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: got to support the run. There's a recipe there, and 1067 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: it just seems like the Chicago Bears don't trust him. 1068 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 1: And then, like I said, this game kind of they 1069 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,840 Speaker 1: got from behind and had to start throwing it around. 1070 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: He threw it twenty nine times. That's not what they want. 1071 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 3: Well, it's fascinating to me, my man, because I'm looking 1072 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 3: at Lamar Jackson's stat line right now. He threw the 1073 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 3: ball thirty three times, threw it for two thirty seven, 1074 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns, did not throw a pick. He also 1075 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,600 Speaker 3: carried the ball twelve times for fifty four yards. We 1076 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 3: see what Jalen Hurts does in Philadelphia. Last year, it became, hey, 1077 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 3: Fields is going to need to throw the ball to 1078 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 3: go with his running ability in order to really. 1079 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 2: Hit his ceiling because he's very, very good at it. 1080 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,000 Speaker 3: And then I look at this stat line today and 1081 00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, well, now now I'm just confused because the 1082 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 3: throwing of the ball is not going very efficiently and 1083 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: he's also not running it either. Four carries for three yards. 1084 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 3: I mean, he had a touchdown in there. But I'm 1085 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 3: just I'm confused by the Chicago game plan. I have 1086 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 3: to imagine a Bears fan is beyond frustrated. 1087 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Kyle. 1088 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I've been alive here watching football. I mean, 1089 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 3: I've been alive for almost fifty years. I've been watching 1090 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 3: football for forty and I feel like the Bears have 1091 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 3: never had a great quarterback my entire life. 1092 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 2: And here we are again. 1093 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 3: This is decision making time. This is the year where 1094 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 3: Justin has got to take a step forward. They're zero 1095 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 3: and two, the stats look terrible, the offense is out 1096 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 3: of sync, and they're in Kansas City next week. 1097 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,640 Speaker 2: Wow, like that got rough fast. 1098 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Not a good time to have to go play a 1099 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: team that we were just talking about is still trying 1100 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: to find their identity on offense. And yes, they get 1101 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 1: their star pass rusher back, and you know, Chris Jones 1102 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: comes in has a sack for the Chiefs. That the 1103 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: defense looked a little bit better for Kansas City week two. 1104 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,959 Speaker 1: It's not ideal for Chicago. And again I go back 1105 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 1: to we all know what the Chicago Bears offense has 1106 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: to look like in order to be successful. It's not 1107 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: justin Field's running it every play, but there are things 1108 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: that you can do throughout the offensive system that allow 1109 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: him to have very high percentage completion opportunities. You know, 1110 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: we don't need to be throwing the ball down the 1111 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: field every single play. Get the ball out of his 1112 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: hands in quick game, use your run game, that you're 1113 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 1: going to lean on run play actions and keepers and 1114 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: RPOs give him the opportunity to use his legs and 1115 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:13,040 Speaker 1: his arm with high percentage completion opportunities instead of all right, well, 1116 01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: week one, we're gonna run it almost every single time, 1117 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: even though we're down a couple scores, and then week two, okay, 1118 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: we'll let you throw it twenty nine times drop back. 1119 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 1: We got a double digit deficit here to try to 1120 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: claw our way out of. It's just it's frustrating because 1121 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,760 Speaker 1: you bring in a DJ more, you pay a cole Comet, 1122 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: you traded for Chase Claypool, you have all of these 1123 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 1: parts that you're putting around justin fields. It's not gonna 1124 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: look like what Lamar Jackson did today. What Lamar Jackson 1125 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: did today, in my opinion, was an incredible sign of 1126 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore got away from that offense they built the last 1127 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: couple of years with you know, fullbacks, multiple tight ends 1128 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: running the football every time, play action. You know, they 1129 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 1: were spreading it out and throwing the ball around, and 1130 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,360 Speaker 1: Lamar looked like a true drop back passer. That's not 1131 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna be justin fields. He is not going to have 1132 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 1: success playing the way Lamar Jackson played today, So if 1133 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: you're the Bears, you have to do everything you possibly 1134 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: can to give this young quarterback a chance at success. 1135 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 3: Speaking of quarterbacks using their legs, the fine line that 1136 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 3: must be walked, what's the right way to do it 1137 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 3: for a team. There's one specific quarterback in mind that 1138 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 3: we want to talk about, which we'll do coming up 1139 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 3: here in a couple of minutes, but not before Steve 1140 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 3: Seger gets in here with the absolute latest that's going 1141 01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 3: on out about Hi. 1142 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 6: Steve, Hello again, good SoundBite for you in a moment. 1143 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,800 Speaker 6: But first off, let's update the NFL Sunday night game. 1144 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 6: New England's on the board, Dolphins ten to three over 1145 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,760 Speaker 6: the Patriots under two minutes to go in the first half. 1146 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 6: Forty nine yard field goal the only Patriot scoring. Mac 1147 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 6: Jones fourteen of eighteen passing just ninety five yards from 1148 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 6: Andre Stevenson six carries, just sixteen yards rushing in the 1149 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 6: first half. The touchdown in this game so far for 1150 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 6: e mostered eight yard TV run for Miami, which leads 1151 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 6: ten to three late first half at New England. 1152 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 2: Well, we did have. 1153 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 6: An overtime game on Fox TV earlier today at Detroit 1154 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 6: Seattle did wind up winning it thirty seven thirty one, 1155 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 6: but at one point early fourth quarter, there was this 1156 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 6: from referee Alex KMP trying to make the call. 1157 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:38,800 Speaker 1: Brown here offense number seven. I'm talking to America here, 1158 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: sally In Watson Doll stuck a dollar. 1159 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 6: Gino Smith interrupted, say that's horrible, and the ruff says, 1160 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 6: I'm talking to America. Excuse me. 1161 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I won't interrupt you anymore, Jeeve, because you could 1162 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 3: do the same thing to me. 1163 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 2: Right now. You're talking to America. I'm gonna get out 1164 01:04:58,840 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 2: your way, all right. 1165 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,680 Speaker 6: Have another overtime game at Tennessee Titans over the h 1166 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 6: to two Chargers twenty seven to twenty four. And you 1167 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 6: think you know football, but there's a guy named Puka 1168 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 6: Nikoua who's on pay for two hundred receptions this year. 1169 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 6: San Francisco did beat the Rams in LA thirty to 1170 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 6: twenty three, but Nicuah fifteen receptions. That's a rookie record 1171 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 6: for a game. He had one hundred and forty seven yards. 1172 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,600 Speaker 6: So through two games twenty five catches already, that's a record, 1173 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 6: and these fifteen catches once again a rookie record in 1174 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:32,000 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl era, Washington thirty five thirty three winners 1175 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,840 Speaker 6: at Denver, Broncos missed a two point pass on the 1176 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 6: final play and no no pass interference was called. Giants 1177 01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,760 Speaker 6: won at Arizona thirty one to twenty eight on a 1178 01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 6: late field goal. Running Back Saquon Barkley had two tds 1179 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 6: but left with an ankle injury. No injury for Darren Waller, 1180 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 6: apparently he had six receptions seventy six yards in the victory. 1181 01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 6: Dallas is two and oh after beating the Jets thirty 1182 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 6: to ten. Ceedee Lamb eleven catches one hundred and forty 1183 01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 6: three yards. Baltimore two to and o after winning a 1184 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 6: close one at Cincinnati twenty seven twenty four. Quarterback Joe 1185 01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,920 Speaker 6: Burrow two touchdowns, one interception near the end zone, and 1186 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 6: he aggravated his stray calf late in the game. Kansas 1187 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:12,320 Speaker 6: City won at Jacksonville seventeen to nine. Wins for Atlanta 1188 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,880 Speaker 6: and Buffalo. Wins for Tampa Bay and Indianapolis thirty one 1189 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,439 Speaker 6: twenty at Houston, but rookie quarterback Anthony Richardson with two 1190 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 6: tds left before halftime due to a concussion. There are 1191 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 6: two games on Monday, and they start at seven fifteen 1192 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:31,600 Speaker 6: pm Eastern and eight fifteen pm Eastern. New Orleans at 1193 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,920 Speaker 6: Carolina and Cleveland at Pittsburgh. Steelers wide receiver Deontae Johnson 1194 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 6: out Monday with a hamstring injury. Browns wide receiver Amari 1195 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 6: Cooper aggravated a groin injury Saturday. He's likely out. By 1196 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,400 Speaker 6: the way, there are two Monday games the next week, 1197 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 6: also also starting at seven fifteen and eight fifteen Eastern 1198 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:52,200 Speaker 6: to why yeah, yeah, just wait till mid December. There's 1199 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 6: gonna be two Monday games and they're going to start 1200 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 6: both at the exact same time. 1201 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 2: Go figure. 1202 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 6: Colorado says two ways star Travis Hunter will miss a 1203 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 6: few weeks. He took a late hit last night and 1204 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 6: was taken to the hospital. And in baseball Sunday night 1205 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 6: game at Arizona, Diamondbacks lead the Cubs five to two 1206 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 6: bottom of the seventh once again minu and a half 1207 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 6: to go. In the Sunday night NFL games, first half 1208 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 6: at New England Dolphins ten to seven in the lead 1209 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 6: back to. 1210 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 3: You, and that was Steve de Seger talking to America 1211 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 3: and did a wonderful job with it. Kyle Rudolph, Mark Willard, 1212 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio glad you're with us, and he mentioned 1213 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, the young quarterback for the Colts, and I'm 1214 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,680 Speaker 3: fascinated by the kid, Kyle, because he looks really good 1215 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 3: or at least intriguing. Right, He's got the Colts offense moving, 1216 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 3: and for his first two games as a professional, I 1217 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,760 Speaker 3: think there's a lot to be excited about. What's interesting, though, 1218 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 3: is he has in some way, shape or form, been 1219 01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 3: knocked out of both games that he's played. Now, he 1220 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 3: came back in Week one and did fine. They lost 1221 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 3: to the Jags, but the story got public that Trevor 1222 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 3: Lawrence pulled him aside after the game and said, hey, 1223 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 3: congratulations on your first game. You look great, but let's 1224 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 3: have a conversation about the hits that you're taking out there. 1225 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 3: This is the league, this is different, and you're not 1226 01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 3: going to survive doing that. And I understand that the 1227 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:24,360 Speaker 3: concussion on the touchdown run was a little quirky in 1228 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 3: the way that. 1229 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 2: It went down. 1230 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 3: Not just him out in the in the open taking 1231 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 3: big hits, but what to do, what to do about 1232 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson so that he does not become the next 1233 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 3: RG three. 1234 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Well, he's got to protect himself and protecting himself out 1235 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 1: in the field in between the tackles, out in open 1236 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 1: space when you've gotten the first down or you know 1237 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you know that the play is over. Just can see 1238 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,240 Speaker 1: the down go down, don't take the hits. But then 1239 01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: in today's game, you see him on the edge running 1240 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,360 Speaker 1: for a touchdown and he almost pulled up as if 1241 01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to score here. So yeah, this 1242 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,599 Speaker 1: guy can come hit me and it's not that big 1243 01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,920 Speaker 1: of a deal. This is the National Football League and 1244 01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: it's not just interior defensive lineman, defensive ends, linebackers. DB's 1245 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 1: can knock you out too, and you have to protect 1246 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,440 Speaker 1: yourself all the way through the down. In that scenario, 1247 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 1: lower your shoulder, run the dB over, get into the 1248 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: end zone. You can't pull up and let that dB 1249 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 1: come in and just have a clean shot on your chin, 1250 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: ultimately knocking you out for the rest of the game. 1251 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1252 01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 3: What he does on the fly, right, Like, I get 1253 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 3: it because as a professional athlete, I would imagine you 1254 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 3: know how to play your game, and it is way 1255 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 3: easier said than done to just be like, well, hey, 1256 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 3: go half speed here, take a dive over there. There 1257 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 3: was a conversation with Mike Trout about this once upon 1258 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 3: a time because the guy played center field so hard 1259 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 3: that he was running into walls, and there was a 1260 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,680 Speaker 3: healthy decision from the Angels and Major League Baseball of like, 1261 01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 3: my man would almost rather those be home runs or 1262 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 3: doubles than have you running into walls because you're too important. 1263 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 3: But how do you tell a guy that whose competitive 1264 01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 3: drive takes over in the moment and the athlete in 1265 01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 3: him says, go get the ball. 1266 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,040 Speaker 2: I've got to go get the ball. 1267 01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,400 Speaker 3: And so I wonder that, Like, I couldn't agree more 1268 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 3: with everything you're saying, But what's the way to actively 1269 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 3: do that sort of take away or change on the 1270 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 3: fly the game that he's always played. 1271 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: I think it's just having the experience as a quarterback 1272 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: in the National Football League that gives you the situational 1273 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 1: awareness both pre snap and at the end of the play. 1274 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, whether you're out in the field between 1275 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: the tackles on the edge and you have the first 1276 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 1: down already, or it's third and forever and you scramble, 1277 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get it, don't take a hit, go down. 1278 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Those are decisions that can be made at full speed 1279 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,839 Speaker 1: We're never telling you to not play full speed, because 1280 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: we saw how that ended today he pulled up a 1281 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:39,559 Speaker 1: little bit at the end of his touchdown run. If 1282 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:42,559 Speaker 1: he's going full speed there and lowers his shoulder, he 1283 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 1: does not get hurt and knocked out of the game. 1284 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: So it's definitely not something where you go to your 1285 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: young quarterback and tell them, hey, you know, we don't 1286 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,679 Speaker 1: want you playing at one hundred percent all the time. No, 1287 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: you have to play at one hundred percent all the time, 1288 01:11:55,680 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 1: but you have to gain situational awareness to know enough's enough. 1289 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: And there's gonna be times where we want you to 1290 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: be a competitor an athlete going out there getting a 1291 01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,439 Speaker 1: big first down for us or getting a touchdown. There's 1292 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 1: also times where we cut our losses. We've got all 1293 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 1: that we can get, and I need you to go 1294 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,519 Speaker 1: down and not take a hit. I think it's the 1295 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: same conversation that we had about Josh Allen last week, 1296 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 1: where you don't want to take away what makes that 1297 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:32,680 Speaker 1: player so special. There just has to be more awareness 1298 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,719 Speaker 1: because you hear this all the time in the NFL. 1299 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 1: It was something as a player, coaches, trainers, they're always 1300 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,559 Speaker 1: kind of joking around with you about it, and it's 1301 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,920 Speaker 1: a saying that we've all heard for all of time. 1302 01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: Your best ability is your availability. So it doesn't matter 1303 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,360 Speaker 1: how good you are, how explosive you are, how athletic 1304 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 1: you are as a young quarterback in this league. If 1305 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 1: you can't finish games, if you can't be out there 1306 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: week in and week out, it's no good for us. 1307 01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,760 Speaker 1: Why do we take you as the fourth overall pick. 1308 01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: We're not drafting you at four so you can be 1309 01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: in street, close on the sideline, or in the locker 1310 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,200 Speaker 1: room for the second half. 1311 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:20,400 Speaker 3: Totally fair points across the board ti Raq dot com Studios. 1312 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 3: That's where we sit alongside Kyle Rudolph. I'm Mark Willard, 1313 01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:27,320 Speaker 3: still ahead the most surprising division in football and coming 1314 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:32,320 Speaker 3: up next, you reference Brock Perdy's salary earlier in this show, 1315 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,800 Speaker 3: and our guy branded, our producer, has looked up how 1316 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 3: many quarterbacks currently in the NFL are making more than 1317 01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 3: Brock Purdy. This answer may surprise you. We've got the 1318 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 3: numbers for you next on Fox. 1319 01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 1320 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 3: Live intheti rag dot com Studios alongside Kyle Rudolph, Mark Willard, 1321 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,919 Speaker 3: I mean, you tell me how this affects a football 1322 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 3: team and what it means going forward, Kyle, there are 1323 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:12,679 Speaker 3: cut them up sixty nine quarterbacks in the NFL making 1324 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,360 Speaker 3: more money than Brock Purty. 1325 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 2: There. 1326 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 1: So it's incredible. I mean, but it goes back to 1327 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,439 Speaker 1: the point we were making earlier. It's yeah, you can. 1328 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just look at the rest of that roster 1329 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,600 Speaker 1: and when he's seventieth in terms of his salary for 1330 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:38,960 Speaker 1: this year, you can pay Debo, Deebo, Samuel You, George Kittle, 1331 01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, Fred Warner. 1332 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 3: Nick Bosa, Yeah, Nick Bosa the highest pas just last week. 1333 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, ever, and you you can't do that. You know, 1334 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: we are talking about moving on from Jimmy Garoppolo. If 1335 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is still the corequarterback of the San Francisco 1336 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,840 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, probably two of those names that we 1337 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 1: just mentioned, wouldn't. You couldn't. You can't have the money 1338 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 1: to pay everyone. And ultimately it worked out. And it's 1339 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 1: always interesting because you fast forward, these guys aren't going 1340 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,080 Speaker 1: to be on rookie contracts forever, and as an organization 1341 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:25,519 Speaker 1: you want them to continue to play well. You just 1342 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,640 Speaker 1: don't move on from a guy because he's not on 1343 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 1: a rookie contract anymore. But it's like, you know, where 1344 01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 1: do you go. We're talking about the Dolphins. They're playing 1345 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,759 Speaker 1: well again to us throwing the ball over the place, 1346 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 1: to all the weapons he has on offense. Ultimately, they're 1347 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,280 Speaker 1: going to have to pay to A and when you 1348 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,960 Speaker 1: pay to A what happens to the rest of your rosters. 1349 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 1: So for me personally, that's one of the most fascinating 1350 01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 1: things in the NFL is just the roster management on 1351 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:56,639 Speaker 1: offense because the quarterback price tag has gotten so high, 1352 01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: and how do you balance the quarterback price tag with 1353 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,280 Speaker 1: the positions around him and being able to afford to 1354 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,480 Speaker 1: keep some talent. Because yes, there are a few quarterbacks 1355 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL who can make those guys around him better. 1356 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: We're talking about Patrick Mahomes retooling with his new offensive 1357 01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 1: weapons year in and year out, but honestly, most guys 1358 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL are not that caliber of quarterback. 1359 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's a super fascinating topic if you ask me, 1360 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 3: because I do wonder what's going to become in vogue, 1361 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,920 Speaker 3: Like is the line gonna move? You don't have to 1362 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:38,040 Speaker 3: just be good as a quarterback. Maybe you have to 1363 01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 3: be great, because that's what you're saying. If you ask me, 1364 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 3: the data would suggest that if you have Mahomes, if 1365 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,680 Speaker 3: you have Alan, if you have Burrow, if you have 1366 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 3: Lamar Jalen Hurtz, I think has certainly shown enough if 1367 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 3: you have that player, you're not even gonna think twice. 1368 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 3: And actually the Ravens did think twice. But you're not 1369 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 3: in a blank. You're you're going to give up that 1370 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 3: money and and those guys will will at least make 1371 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,519 Speaker 3: you relevant and at least make you a contender just 1372 01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,679 Speaker 3: by their presence. But what if you're not that group? 1373 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,000 Speaker 3: And it's really hard to assess, you know what I mean? Like, 1374 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 3: what are the Lions gonna do in the next couple 1375 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,840 Speaker 3: of years with Jared Goff? Are the Browns happy that 1376 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 3: they gave Deshaun Watson that contract? Are the Broncos happy 1377 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 3: that they gave Russell Wilson that contract? Are the Cardinals 1378 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:39,640 Speaker 3: happy that they gave Kyler Murray that contract? Are we 1379 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:42,519 Speaker 3: going to get to a point where teams go unless 1380 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 3: you're great, we may be willing to let a good 1381 01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:50,799 Speaker 3: player go just to turn that contract over into something cheaper. 1382 01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about it earlier with Justin 1383 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Jefferson and the fear of, well, if we don't keep 1384 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, where do we turn? And quite honestly, I 1385 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:13,400 Speaker 1: think that's the reason why all these teams are paying 1386 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:17,639 Speaker 1: these guys who aren't the Patrick Mahomes of the world, 1387 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 1: or the Josh Allens or the Jalen Hurts, the Joe Burrows. 1388 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, he's oh and two coming off the third 1389 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 1: biggest contract, you know, in NFL history, And yes, are 1390 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:38,639 Speaker 1: the Chargers happy that they gave Justin Herbert the second 1391 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 1: or third biggest contract in NFL history and started the 1392 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,960 Speaker 1: season oh and two? You know, you feel like you 1393 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: have your guy and you pay him, and it happens 1394 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 1: so fast. You know what has warranted Justin Herbert to 1395 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 1: be a fifty plus million dollar quarterback. He's never won 1396 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 1: a playoff game. But when you have your guy, you 1397 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: have to keep them, and then ultimately that impacts the 1398 01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 1: rest of your roster. 1399 01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:05,400 Speaker 2: No doubt about it. 1400 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,439 Speaker 3: The Chargers have to be scratching their head with the 1401 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 3: names they have on defense that they have not been 1402 01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 3: able to stop the other team from scoring more than 1403 01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 3: they have so far this year. Because Herbert has at 1404 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 3: least done his part. More on Matt coming up, plus 1405 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,960 Speaker 3: the most surprising division in football. 1406 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,000 Speaker 2: We'll get to that on Fox Sports Radio. 1407 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 1408 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,479 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 1409 01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 1410 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 5: listen live. 1411 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's rock. 1412 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:43,000 Speaker 3: It's Week two of the National Football League season. This 1413 01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,960 Speaker 3: is Fox Football Sunday. We're recapping it all, we're breaking 1414 01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:49,800 Speaker 3: it all down, we're experiencing it all. Because it is 1415 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,479 Speaker 3: not done yet into the second half between the Dolphins 1416 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 3: and the Patriots. We will keep you up to date 1417 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 3: on that and there's still a ton to go through. 1418 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,679 Speaker 3: Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph, if you thank you for being 1419 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 3: with us, however you're bringing us in, Kyle. 1420 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 2: The sum total of losses. 1421 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 3: In the NFC South had no choice but to be 1422 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 3: at least at the number one at this point in 1423 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 3: the year. Because the Falcons played the Panthers last week. 1424 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 3: Somebody had to lose the game, or at least there 1425 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,720 Speaker 3: had to be two ties, you get it. That was 1426 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 3: a minimum, a minimum at this point Sunday Night, week two, 1427 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:31,800 Speaker 3: there had to be at least one loss how many 1428 01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,959 Speaker 3: total losses are there in the division? 1429 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:36,639 Speaker 2: Still just that one. 1430 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,120 Speaker 3: This was supposed to be the weakest division in football. 1431 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 3: This was the division that was won by a losing 1432 01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,799 Speaker 3: record last year. And this division right now is five 1433 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:49,639 Speaker 3: and one. 1434 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 2: You can say anything you want. 1435 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 3: About who they played and why and how and how 1436 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:58,320 Speaker 3: close and all of that stuff. But Falcons two and 1437 01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,920 Speaker 3: Oh Bucks and oh oh Saints one to zero. 1438 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,599 Speaker 2: Unbelievable start for this division. 1439 01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got talking about the Bucks a little 1440 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,120 Speaker 1: bit earlier, and you know, talking about the style that 1441 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 1: they have to play, Baker Mayfield finding a little bit 1442 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 1: of magic again, Mike Evans doing what Mike Evans has 1443 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 1: done for the last decade, and really nobody wants to 1444 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 1: talk about it or point out the fact that he's 1445 01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 1: consistently one of the best wide receivers in football. They 1446 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 1: play really good defense, and it's something that Todd Bowles 1447 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,920 Speaker 1: has made a living throughout the course of his career 1448 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 1: as a play caller on the defensive side of the ball, 1449 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,559 Speaker 1: putting tough, stout defenses out there weekend and week out. 1450 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 1: And then you go a little bit up the division 1451 01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,759 Speaker 1: to Atlanta, and you look at Atlanta and the way 1452 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,679 Speaker 1: that they win football games in the style that they 1453 01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,920 Speaker 1: play with, and the rookie that they took with the 1454 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:03,920 Speaker 1: eighth overall and Bjeon Robinson, and what he adds to 1455 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,800 Speaker 1: that team that was already built around that type of 1456 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 1: a player. He's special to watch, just the explosiveness that 1457 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 1: he played with today. He's gonna be a lot of 1458 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,120 Speaker 1: fun to watch down there in Atlanta. 1459 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. 1460 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 3: And I have to at least momentarily peel back a 1461 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,760 Speaker 3: little bit on an opinion I had at the start 1462 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 3: of this year. I was like, and not that this 1463 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,599 Speaker 3: matters for anything, but you know, going into my fantasy drafts, 1464 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, Jean Robinson, I'm in. Outside of that, I'm 1465 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,680 Speaker 3: kind of out on any Atlanta pass catchers because I 1466 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:46,360 Speaker 3: just didn't really believe in Desmond Ritter. Partially because it's early, 1467 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,240 Speaker 3: but I just I wasn't loving what I had seen 1468 01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,200 Speaker 3: from him when we did have a chance to see him. 1469 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:56,439 Speaker 3: And so far this year, sure it hasn't been like 1470 01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:02,720 Speaker 3: anything overwhelming, but there has been largely smart football. He's 1471 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,519 Speaker 3: only thrown one interception. He's able to do some things 1472 01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 3: with his legs. Last week in the win, he had 1473 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,200 Speaker 3: an eighty three point three percent completion rating this week. 1474 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 3: I was very impressed by just the calm demeanor as 1475 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 3: you're losing in the fourth quarter against the Green Bay 1476 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,439 Speaker 3: Packers and he's able to navigate him back Desmond Ridder. 1477 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 2: It looks viable right now for this team. 1478 01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Desmond Ritters. Don't exactly what he has to do for 1479 01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: this team to win football games, and that's just don't 1480 01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 1: cost the Atlanta Falcons the game. Don't go out there 1481 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 1: and turn the ball over three times. You know, we've 1482 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 1: talked about so many quarterbacks, whether it's Zach Wilson or 1483 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, quarterbacks that have a good defense, that have 1484 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 1: a run game that they can lean on, and then 1485 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, pick your opportunities. He did it today, hitting 1486 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 1: drake Lonnon for the touchdown pass, scoring with his legs 1487 01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 1: on the big fourth down late in the game, getting 1488 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,680 Speaker 1: the ball to Bjhon Robinson, just about every way possible. 1489 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 1: You look at the stat sheet, and the Atlanta Falcons 1490 01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,720 Speaker 1: are going to win a lot of football games. When 1491 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,160 Speaker 1: Desmin Ritter throws for two hundred and thirty seven yards 1492 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 1: and Bjhon Robinson runs for one hundred and twenty five, 1493 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,880 Speaker 1: that's the formula for success in Atlanta. You gotta love 1494 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 1: Arthur Smith's guts at the end of the game going 1495 01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,720 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down endfield goal range. You know, 1496 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,439 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there thinking, this would be interesting. If you 1497 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,280 Speaker 1: don't get this fourth and short here, you have a 1498 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: chance to kick the field goal and take the one 1499 01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 1: point lead. But ultimately they get the first down, they're 1500 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 1: able to run another three downs off of the clock, 1501 01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,040 Speaker 1: kick the football and not really give Green Bay much 1502 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,040 Speaker 1: of a chance there after they take the one point leads. 1503 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,599 Speaker 1: So I talk about it so much on this show, 1504 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 1: where teams know their identity, they go into the game. 1505 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,120 Speaker 1: You sit in that team meeting on Wednesday, and the 1506 01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:21,080 Speaker 1: head coach throws up the presentation on the jumbo screen, 1507 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 1: the keys to victory. Here's what we have to do 1508 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 1: to go out and win this week. Each week it 1509 01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 1: could be different, but this week, this is what we 1510 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,080 Speaker 1: have to do to go win that game. And this 1511 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:39,000 Speaker 1: is exactly what the Atlanta Falcons would have said going 1512 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,960 Speaker 1: into that team meeting on Wednesday. 1513 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an impressive fourth quarter for sure, down 1514 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,559 Speaker 3: by twelve, end up winning it by one. Hey, just 1515 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 3: cuz we're talking about this team and you brought up 1516 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,360 Speaker 3: his name. I do have a question I want to 1517 01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 3: ask on the part of the fantasy football world, and 1518 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 3: maybe you can give them an id of what this 1519 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,960 Speaker 3: feels like in a game planning session or inside the 1520 01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,240 Speaker 3: locker room, and why it's not done that way you 1521 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:08,760 Speaker 3: mentioned Bijon Robinson. 1522 01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,200 Speaker 2: If you have not had a chance to watch this 1523 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 2: young man. 1524 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:17,360 Speaker 3: Play yet, oh my goodness, Like he is so dynamic, 1525 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 3: it's so obvious every time he touches the ball. Now, 1526 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 3: he had plenty of touches in this football game. Nineteen 1527 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 3: carries and four catches. Twenty three touches is great, But 1528 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,880 Speaker 3: there's a butt that's involved in this conversation. We've already 1529 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,080 Speaker 3: heard it both times that the Lions have played. When 1530 01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,360 Speaker 3: people are looking at Jamiir Gibbs to the point where 1531 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 3: their offensive coordinator to come out before the game this 1532 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 3: week and go, we're going to get him way more involved, 1533 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 3: and then they don't. Even when David Montgomery gets hurt 1534 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 3: out in comes the third here comes Craig Reynolds to 1535 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 3: start getting carries. I don't think people thought Tyler Algier 1536 01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,280 Speaker 3: would be getting north of fifteen carries. 1537 01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,919 Speaker 2: In these football games when you've got. 1538 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 3: These young guys who are showing just dynastic moves on 1539 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:12,360 Speaker 3: the field. Why aren't NFL teams feeding them more. 1540 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,680 Speaker 1: It's the identity of the Atlanta Falcons. That's they know, 1541 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:19,120 Speaker 1: that's how they have to go win football games. They 1542 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 1: had forty five rushing attempts today. I mean, that's that's 1543 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:29,439 Speaker 1: unheard of in the modern day NFL world. Forty five 1544 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,599 Speaker 1: rush attempts. Most of the time, it's the opposite. You're 1545 01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:37,280 Speaker 1: throwing it forty five times. That's the way they're built. 1546 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:42,599 Speaker 1: Their patient with it, and it works when you stay 1547 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:48,520 Speaker 1: ahead of the chains, when you stay in football games. Unfortunately, 1548 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, you get down a couple touchdowns if you 1549 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 1: have a penalty on a drive. It's really hard to 1550 01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,840 Speaker 1: overcome that adversity, whether it be throughout the course of 1551 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:04,439 Speaker 1: a drive or throughout the course of a game, when 1552 01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,840 Speaker 1: you have to run the ball forty five times to 1553 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,640 Speaker 1: go win a football game. So you know, ultimately, I 1554 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:18,960 Speaker 1: think that's why coordinators across the league aren't all bought 1555 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: into this Atlanta Falcons way of playing football. We had 1556 01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,679 Speaker 1: talked about the Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson, and they're 1557 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: getting away from running the football so much and now 1558 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 1: they're throwing it around a little bit more. So. It's 1559 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,120 Speaker 1: this fine line of you have to be able to 1560 01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: run the football to win games. You have to be 1561 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 1: able to stop the run to win games. But if 1562 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,720 Speaker 1: that's all you can do, and you have to do 1563 01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,799 Speaker 1: it forty five times, you ultimately have to play almost 1564 01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 1: perfect football because you can't afford a ten yard holding 1565 01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 1: penalty on first down. You're not going to overcome first 1566 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 1: and twenty. It's going to be ultimately a punt and 1567 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,759 Speaker 1: the drive's gonna stall if you get down fourteen points. 1568 01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 1: The Falcons made a great comeback today. They played really well, scoring, 1569 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, thirteen points in the fourth quarter to come 1570 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 1: back and win. It's hard. It's really hard to come back. 1571 01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,120 Speaker 1: And you know, you got to give Desmond rid Er 1572 01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:22,679 Speaker 1: credit because he did play big late in the fourth 1573 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:26,840 Speaker 1: quarter to erase that twelve point deficit and ultimately get 1574 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the win. But that's a tough way to live in 1575 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: the NFL when you got to come from behind and 1576 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,000 Speaker 1: you're built to run the football. 1577 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:34,760 Speaker 2: No doubt about it, no doubt about it. 1578 01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 3: I think the other side to it, though, is kind 1579 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,800 Speaker 3: of what in most cities is like the death of 1580 01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:43,400 Speaker 3: the bell Cow. Everybody wants to kind of turn and burn, 1581 01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:46,040 Speaker 3: and I think there's some obvious pieces of the conversation. 1582 01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 3: They want guys to stay healthy, but there are certain 1583 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 3: teams that feel like they're sort of ripping the dynamic 1584 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 3: nature of their offense off the field a little bit 1585 01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:00,800 Speaker 3: too much. I think you can wishing too far in 1586 01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,519 Speaker 3: the other direction as well. Go to that forty nine 1587 01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,439 Speaker 3: or Ram game and take a look at what happened there. 1588 01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 3: Cam Akers was deactivated. They tried to trade him last year. 1589 01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,719 Speaker 3: Apparently that's the word they're going to do that again. 1590 01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,640 Speaker 3: So young Kyron Williams comes in and really plays a 1591 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 3: big bell cow role. Christian McCaffrey did as well on 1592 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,599 Speaker 3: the forty nine er side. Do you know how many 1593 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,280 Speaker 3: running backs got to carry in this game not named 1594 01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,360 Speaker 3: Kyron Williams and Christian McCaffrey. 1595 01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:32,080 Speaker 2: The answer is zero z row. 1596 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,439 Speaker 3: They did not spell these guys with other running backs 1597 01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:40,000 Speaker 3: for carries at all. So what's the right way to 1598 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,960 Speaker 3: do that? The whole idea of go with your best 1599 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,760 Speaker 3: but also somehow keep them fresh load management, if you will, 1600 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:49,719 Speaker 3: football style. 1601 01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:55,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting because again I think it goes to what 1602 01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 1: are the touches? Are we handing the ball to our 1603 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:04,639 Speaker 1: back in between the tackles twenty five times a game? 1604 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 1: You know, you look at the forty nine ers, Christian 1605 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,920 Speaker 1: McCaffrey carried it twenty times. Are you giving it to 1606 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,160 Speaker 1: him twenty times in between the tackles? Are or are 1607 01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,479 Speaker 1: we getting him out on the perimeter, getting him in space? 1608 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 1: You hand it to him twenty times, you throw it 1609 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,719 Speaker 1: to him three times, so a lot like Bjhon Robinson. 1610 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 1: It's that low twenties touches for the game. What do 1611 01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,360 Speaker 1: those touches look like? Are are we getting you in 1612 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:36,800 Speaker 1: space where you can use your athleticism and dynamic playmaking ability, 1613 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:41,400 Speaker 1: but you're not running into inside linebackers and three techniques 1614 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,559 Speaker 1: and defensive ends every single time you're handing the ball. 1615 01:31:46,560 --> 01:31:50,720 Speaker 1: Or is it you're the bellcal back like it used 1616 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,400 Speaker 1: to be back in the day, and you're gonna run 1617 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:58,360 Speaker 1: downhill like Mike Alstott, and you're gonna get tattooed twenty 1618 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 1: five out of your twenty eight. That's the type of 1619 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,519 Speaker 1: wear and tear that I don't think these coaches want 1620 01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:11,680 Speaker 1: their playmaking backs quarterbacks. We've had this conversation with quarterbacks too. 1621 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: What's the nature of the carries, what's the nature of 1622 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,519 Speaker 1: the touches, Where are we getting these guys the football? 1623 01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:23,080 Speaker 1: And ultimately, at the end of the day, I don't 1624 01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 1: think anybody does it better than Kyle Shanahan and the Niners. 1625 01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,640 Speaker 1: You just see the way they use Christian McCaffrey, the 1626 01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:35,320 Speaker 1: way Deebo Samuel is almost like their third down back. 1627 01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:38,599 Speaker 1: They're guy that spills Christian McCaffrey. When when they don't 1628 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,960 Speaker 1: want to hand it to Christian McCaffrey, we'll hand it 1629 01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,920 Speaker 1: to Debo or it'll be a quick screen to Debo, 1630 01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,479 Speaker 1: And it's basically an extension of the run game. So 1631 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect combination where you know, we're 1632 01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:55,400 Speaker 1: getting the ball in these guys' hands a lot, but 1633 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: it's in a variety of ways that aren't just downhill 1634 01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,800 Speaker 1: runs every single play where they're taking big hits. You 1635 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,840 Speaker 1: see it at the end of the Giants game, handing 1636 01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,759 Speaker 1: Saquona Barkley the ball in between the tackles, he gets 1637 01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,080 Speaker 1: rolled up, ultimately leaves the game with an ankle injury 1638 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:16,760 Speaker 1: on the second to last play of the game. That's 1639 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:17,840 Speaker 1: not what you want to see. 1640 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 3: Nope, and they got a game in four days. They 1641 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:24,200 Speaker 3: are Thursday Night Football in San Francisco. 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There was one game where 1648 01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:46,960 Speaker 3: two teams last week showed us something that we found surprising. 1649 01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,760 Speaker 3: Then this week they showed us the exact opposite. 1650 01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:52,080 Speaker 2: So what do we know now? 1651 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,280 Speaker 3: We'll get into that coming up next on Fox Sports Radio. 1652 01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 3: Ah Ight, It's Mark Willard and Kyle Rudolph. 1653 01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 2: Fox Sports. 1654 01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 3: It's Radio Liventhetirack dot Com Studios. I mean, my man, 1655 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,599 Speaker 3: you explained it to me. We sat here a week ago. 1656 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,720 Speaker 3: We both said that the Seattle Seahawks were one of 1657 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,719 Speaker 3: the most disappointing teams of. 1658 01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 2: The day off. 1659 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,960 Speaker 3: They are there at home, the home of the twelfth Man, 1660 01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,880 Speaker 3: the Rams, who were the Rams supposed to be. They 1661 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 3: come in there on Cork a twenty three to nothing 1662 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,960 Speaker 3: second half and hand Seattle a terrible home loss to 1663 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 3: start the year, Seattle, we were all told, that's the 1664 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:30,639 Speaker 3: team that's going to challenge the Niners in the West. 1665 01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,759 Speaker 3: That's the only team the Niners even need to worry about. 1666 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,599 Speaker 3: All of the sudden Seattle is on and one. Now 1667 01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,519 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers had their hands full themselves with 1668 01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 3: those same Rams today. So maybe the Rams, now that 1669 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,519 Speaker 3: Matt Stafford's back, we probably should have given them a 1670 01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,120 Speaker 3: little bit more respect. And even with Cooper cup out, 1671 01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,360 Speaker 3: I don't even know what to do with this pooka nakua. 1672 01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,360 Speaker 3: Guys all over the field catching everything, and so that's 1673 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 3: a completely different story. But Seattle looked bad, and then 1674 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,800 Speaker 3: they had to travel to a team that had just 1675 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,120 Speaker 3: gone into Arrowhead and won a football game on the 1676 01:35:06,280 --> 01:35:10,840 Speaker 3: NFL opener, and they were everybody's trendy pick. And at halftime, 1677 01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,599 Speaker 3: just like we'd expect, Lions are up by seven. Looks 1678 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 3: like we're gonna hum this one on its way to victory, 1679 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:23,799 Speaker 3: no overtime, a twenty four point second half, Gino Smith 1680 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,320 Speaker 3: and Tyler Lockett waking the whole place up. Someone picked 1681 01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:29,240 Speaker 3: off Jared Goff for the first time in a year 1682 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,920 Speaker 3: and a half. It was incredible, and Seattle gets the 1683 01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,040 Speaker 3: win and Detroit the loss. Kyle, what do we do 1684 01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:37,360 Speaker 3: with these two teams now? 1685 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 1: I think we still got two teams that are gonna 1686 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:48,120 Speaker 1: be competing for playoff spots come late December January. I mean, 1687 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:53,400 Speaker 1: you look at that game, and Gino Smith said it 1688 01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,519 Speaker 1: last year. You know he didn't right back, and here 1689 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 1: we all go just bashing him after a week one 1690 01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,120 Speaker 1: and talking about how disappointing the Seahawks were and their 1691 01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:06,200 Speaker 1: performance and they were awful on third down and kicked 1692 01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,360 Speaker 1: field goals in the red zone. You can't win games 1693 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:14,160 Speaker 1: doing that. I mentioned last week on air that the 1694 01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,479 Speaker 1: best thing is just you forget about it, and you 1695 01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 1: know that you have a short week. They had to 1696 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: come all the way across the country, you travel an 1697 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,599 Speaker 1: extra day early, get here, get used to the time change, 1698 01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,240 Speaker 1: and then you go play against a good Lions team. 1699 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 1: I think it is still a good Lions team. On 1700 01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,160 Speaker 1: the flip side, you have that Lions team that won 1701 01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:42,280 Speaker 1: a huge game on Thursday night to open the NFL season, 1702 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,200 Speaker 1: and then they had all weekend to sit around and 1703 01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,720 Speaker 1: hear about it and all of us tell them how 1704 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,559 Speaker 1: good they were, and they're, you know, the surprise team 1705 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:57,320 Speaker 1: they built this culture and they go out a lot 1706 01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,680 Speaker 1: to a good team. You mentioned jar golf throw on 1707 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:04,200 Speaker 1: his first pick in forever, but then he responds and 1708 01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 1: he goes right back down the field, leading him a 1709 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:09,040 Speaker 1: touchdown drive. They kick the field goal to ultimately send 1710 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:13,960 Speaker 1: it to overtime. And you know Gino g answers, he 1711 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,080 Speaker 1: made sure that the Lions don't get the ball in overtime. 1712 01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:20,880 Speaker 1: He goes right down the field. He hits Tyler Lockett, 1713 01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:26,559 Speaker 1: who time and time again makes clutch plays in big moments. 1714 01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:30,760 Speaker 1: Tyler came up with two touchdown catches today, including that 1715 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,800 Speaker 1: game winner at the end at the end there and overtime. 1716 01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:38,680 Speaker 1: And so I do still believe that the Seattle Seahawks 1717 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,200 Speaker 1: and the Detroit Lions are both good football teams and 1718 01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,080 Speaker 1: will be in the NFC playoff picture when we get 1719 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,080 Speaker 1: down the stretch in December and January. 1720 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,000 Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. 1721 01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,360 Speaker 3: I do wonder though, when you look at a head 1722 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 3: coach like Dan Campbell, and I know he played on 1723 01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:59,320 Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball, but when you show 1724 01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 3: up and you still are talking about Biden kneecaps on 1725 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:06,639 Speaker 3: your first introductory press conference, it gives me the sense 1726 01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:11,960 Speaker 3: that you're someone who approaches football with a defensive mentality, 1727 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,040 Speaker 3: the toughness. And he's done a great job, don't get 1728 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,599 Speaker 3: me wrong. He has changed the culture and he's done 1729 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,720 Speaker 3: a really good job. But the Lions get in these 1730 01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,559 Speaker 3: games they did this last year as well. They get 1731 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 3: in these games where they score thirty and the other 1732 01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,880 Speaker 3: team scores thirty plus. And so as much as I 1733 01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,160 Speaker 3: love the receiving corps, I love the way golf is 1734 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:37,840 Speaker 3: playing very smart football. And we already established it's a 1735 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:41,680 Speaker 3: division that shouldn't be that hard to win. Ten or 1736 01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:46,040 Speaker 3: eleven wins is gonna get that sucker done. They got 1737 01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 3: to stop someone, They got to stop someone. Aiden Hutchinson 1738 01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 3: is a player, but on defense, they are not able 1739 01:38:54,120 --> 01:38:57,200 Speaker 3: to get key stops when they need him. And they 1740 01:38:57,200 --> 01:38:59,680 Speaker 3: cannot rely on Kadarius Tony to show up and drop 1741 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:00,799 Speaker 3: past every week. 1742 01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:04,360 Speaker 2: No. 1743 01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,599 Speaker 1: And it's funny because you just think about last year 1744 01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:14,720 Speaker 1: early in the season, they played this exact same Seattle 1745 01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:20,759 Speaker 1: Seahawks team in Detroit and scored forty five points and lost. 1746 01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,920 Speaker 1: And they lost forty eight forty five. So here we 1747 01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:28,040 Speaker 1: are a year later and they still have these same 1748 01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:32,640 Speaker 1: issues where offensively they do they look great. Jared is 1749 01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 1: playing really really well under center. He makes his first 1750 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:44,599 Speaker 1: mistake in three hundred and however many attempts, but then, 1751 01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 1: as I said, responds and goes right back down the 1752 01:39:48,280 --> 01:39:51,559 Speaker 1: field and scores. They get to stop when they need, 1753 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:53,439 Speaker 1: they get the field goal, they send it to overtime, 1754 01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:59,120 Speaker 1: but ultimately defense wasn't able to give Jared Goff another 1755 01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,720 Speaker 1: opportunity and over time to win the game because they 1756 01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 1: couldn't get off the field. And I think, you know, 1757 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,720 Speaker 1: we talked about Seattle last week third down, they were 1758 01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:11,080 Speaker 1: terrible red zone. Not so good. This week. They're around 1759 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,960 Speaker 1: fifty percent on third down. So we're better on third down, 1760 01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:18,080 Speaker 1: staying on the fields, sustaining drives. But they go four 1761 01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,639 Speaker 1: or five in the red zone, scoring touchdowns four out 1762 01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:24,639 Speaker 1: of five times. The Detroit Lions have to get better 1763 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,800 Speaker 1: in the red zone. You can't give up four out 1764 01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,760 Speaker 1: of five touchdowns in the red zone and expect to 1765 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:30,679 Speaker 1: win football games. 1766 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:31,439 Speaker 2: Yep. 1767 01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:36,000 Speaker 3: And it just goes to I think the parody that 1768 01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:38,479 Speaker 3: we're seeing that's gonna make it difficult. The lack of 1769 01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:41,880 Speaker 3: two and zero teams. I'd say the only thing that 1770 01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:45,720 Speaker 3: we showed up two weeks ago and tried to pull 1771 01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,519 Speaker 3: out a sharpie and put an ink. I would say, 1772 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:51,960 Speaker 3: the only thing is maybe like the very tip top 1773 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,840 Speaker 3: of the NFC, don't you think the Eagles, Cowboys and 1774 01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,840 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers? If I had to say two weeks ago, 1775 01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,599 Speaker 3: one of the few things that all of us thought 1776 01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,559 Speaker 3: and then it's turned out to be true, is that 1777 01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,719 Speaker 3: those three teams look like the class of the conference. 1778 01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:15,400 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with the Philadelphia Eagles being up there, 1779 01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,880 Speaker 1: and now there's a few reasons why their defense is 1780 01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:22,760 Speaker 1: banged up. But when I watched that Philadelphia Eagles team 1781 01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,280 Speaker 1: play against the Minnesota Viking, I'm watching the game, and 1782 01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:29,200 Speaker 1: you know you're ultimately like, Philly, will you just like 1783 01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,640 Speaker 1: the Vikings are handing you this game? Will you just 1784 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:33,320 Speaker 1: blow it out so we can all go to bed 1785 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,000 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier on Thursday night instead of making 1786 01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,120 Speaker 1: me stay up till eleven o'clock at night to ultimately 1787 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:40,960 Speaker 1: see the game end the way we all know it 1788 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:45,479 Speaker 1: was gonna end. But it's that offense. Yeah, you have 1789 01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,360 Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator. He's getting used to calling plays 1790 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,599 Speaker 1: for Jalen Hurts. They look terrible in the first quarter 1791 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,479 Speaker 1: and it wasn't really until they decided we're gonna turn 1792 01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,719 Speaker 1: the round and we're just gonna hand the ball off 1793 01:41:57,080 --> 01:42:00,160 Speaker 1: every single time until you decide that you can stop. 1794 01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:03,559 Speaker 1: They run the ball thirteen times on a scoring drive 1795 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:09,840 Speaker 1: ultimately get a touchdown. Jalen started to find DeVante Smith 1796 01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: a little bit there in the second half and started 1797 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,000 Speaker 1: to get a little more comfortable. But that Philly team 1798 01:42:15,040 --> 01:42:19,320 Speaker 1: that I watched on Thursday night is nowhere near the 1799 01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,439 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and the Cowboys right now, and the 1800 01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:25,000 Speaker 1: way that both of those teams are playing. And there's 1801 01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,360 Speaker 1: another two on o team in the NFC that none 1802 01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,920 Speaker 1: of us are talking about, and the Washington Commanders, it's 1803 01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,519 Speaker 1: you know, they're in the NFC East waving their hands 1804 01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 1: in hold on a second, don't don't forget about us. 1805 01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:39,120 Speaker 1: We're two and o two. So you know, I think 1806 01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:43,719 Speaker 1: Philly will get healthy on defense. Their front still gives 1807 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:47,519 Speaker 1: them a chance weekend and week out. Their ability to 1808 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:50,639 Speaker 1: run the football gives them a chance weekend and week out. 1809 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,920 Speaker 1: But I think they're still ironing out some kinks with 1810 01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,680 Speaker 1: a new play caller getting used to Jalen Hurts and 1811 01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,960 Speaker 1: the way that he plays the game and how to 1812 01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:03,960 Speaker 1: bring out the best in him, because I didn't see 1813 01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:05,479 Speaker 1: it from Philly on Thursday night. 1814 01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,920 Speaker 3: Okay, those are interesting comments about some of the NFC 1815 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,559 Speaker 3: East teams. Let's explore that a little bit more here 1816 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,439 Speaker 3: coming up in a minute, but first let's get Steve 1817 01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,240 Speaker 3: de Seger in here with an update on everything that. 1818 01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:20,000 Speaker 2: Has gone on is going on in more. Hello Steve. 1819 01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,679 Speaker 6: Not a good night for the New England Patriots. They'll 1820 01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:26,120 Speaker 6: start the fourth quarter at home trailing seventeen to three 1821 01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:30,280 Speaker 6: against the Miami Dolphin Zavian Howard with an interception in 1822 01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:33,000 Speaker 6: the red zone late third on the ground for New 1823 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,960 Speaker 6: England two yards of carry so far, lad if that's 1824 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,240 Speaker 6: the right word by Ramandre Stevenson at ten carries twenty 1825 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:42,519 Speaker 6: two yards seventeen to three, the league going to the 1826 01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,880 Speaker 6: fourth to a tongue of Iloa with a two yard 1827 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,880 Speaker 6: touchdown pass to Tyreek Hill just before halftime. Next Gen 1828 01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:51,280 Speaker 6: had the stats in the first half of this game 1829 01:43:51,320 --> 01:43:54,519 Speaker 6: that these two quarterbacks combined when any pass went over 1830 01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,200 Speaker 6: fifteen yards in the air, not a single one was completed, 1831 01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 6: a combined zero for five, but under fifteen air yards 1832 01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 6: in the first half tonight, they were twenty nine of 1833 01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:07,479 Speaker 6: thirty two for about two seventy five. So that's the 1834 01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:08,679 Speaker 6: kind of game it's been. 1835 01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:09,599 Speaker 2: Boy. 1836 01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,679 Speaker 6: The Patriots have just been flatbed. Two turnovers, only three points, 1837 01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 6: no run, game down seventeen to three. Got a stat 1838 01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,519 Speaker 6: for you from the Niners and one from the Raiders. 1839 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:22,400 Speaker 6: The Niners won their game in LA thirty to twenty three. 1840 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:24,639 Speaker 6: They go to two to zero, and apparently the kicker 1841 01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,559 Speaker 6: is worth the draft choice now because he's on the list. 1842 01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:31,040 Speaker 6: Jake Moody of San Francisco here to go three for 1843 01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,960 Speaker 6: three on extra points last week and this week, and 1844 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,920 Speaker 6: three for three on field goals last week and this week. 1845 01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:41,080 Speaker 6: In the last thirty years of the NFL, only one 1846 01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:43,839 Speaker 6: time had a kicker in his first two career games 1847 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,400 Speaker 6: make at least six field goals at least six extra points. 1848 01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:48,920 Speaker 2: Without a miss, and that was Justin Tucker. 1849 01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:52,280 Speaker 6: That's the start that Jake Moody has had to his 1850 01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:53,839 Speaker 6: regular season career. 1851 01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:57,360 Speaker 3: And one of them was from fifty seven yards today too, 1852 01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:58,679 Speaker 3: So they weren't all cheap. 1853 01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,479 Speaker 2: They were not all cheap, and that. 1854 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,639 Speaker 6: Was the thirty to twenty three win. And Puka Nakoua 1855 01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:06,360 Speaker 6: the Rams did have fifteen receptions in the loss a 1856 01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 6: rookie record. 1857 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:08,040 Speaker 1: Well. 1858 01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,400 Speaker 6: Las Vegas Raiders lost at Buffalo thirty eight to ten. 1859 01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:15,160 Speaker 6: Josh Allen three touchdown passes. On the Raiders side, Josh 1860 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,040 Speaker 6: Jacobs did have five catches for fifty one yards, but 1861 01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:22,960 Speaker 6: on the ground nine carries for minus two and that 1862 01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,120 Speaker 6: includes a three yard run on one of the carries, 1863 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,559 Speaker 6: which means the other eight carries or for minus five 1864 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:31,400 Speaker 6: yards for the day, The NFL saying Josh Jacobs had 1865 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:36,280 Speaker 6: the fewest rushing yards by any reigning rushing champ in 1866 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:40,720 Speaker 6: the league since at least nineteen fifty. Indianapolis was a 1867 01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:43,960 Speaker 6: winner at Houston thirty one to twenty, rookie quarterback Anthony 1868 01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 6: Richardson with a couple of touchdowns, but he left before 1869 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,679 Speaker 6: halftime with a concussion. Tampa Bay's two and oh after 1870 01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,720 Speaker 6: beating Chicago, Atlanta's two and o after coming back to 1871 01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:57,080 Speaker 6: edge Green Bay overtime wins for Seattle and Tennessee, victories 1872 01:45:57,080 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 6: for Baltimore and Kansas City each on the road, and 1873 01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,679 Speaker 6: after beating the Jets thirty to ten, Cede Lamb eleven 1874 01:46:03,720 --> 01:46:06,760 Speaker 6: receptions one hundred and forty three yards, Giants came back 1875 01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:09,000 Speaker 6: to win at Arizona on a late field goal thirty 1876 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:12,519 Speaker 6: one twenty eight. Running back Saquon Barkley two touchdowns, but 1877 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 6: he left with an ankle injury, and the Giants play 1878 01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:19,439 Speaker 6: Thursday at San Francisco. Will he be healthy enough in time. 1879 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:23,000 Speaker 6: Washington won at Denver thirty five thirty three, Commanders two 1880 01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,680 Speaker 6: and o Broncos missed a two point pass on the 1881 01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:28,519 Speaker 6: final play or a minder. There are two games on Monday. 1882 01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:31,680 Speaker 6: Colorado says two way star Travis Hunter will miss a 1883 01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,719 Speaker 6: few weeks. He took a late hit last night. Texas 1884 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 6: is up to number three in the new AP College 1885 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:41,080 Speaker 6: Football Poll, behind number one Georgia and number two Michigan. 1886 01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:44,040 Speaker 6: Voters apparently not seeing most of the Texas game last night. 1887 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,040 Speaker 6: Major League Baseball at Arizona this evening, another win for 1888 01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,800 Speaker 6: the Diamondbacks, beat the slumping Cubs six to two. Only 1889 01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:52,080 Speaker 6: a couple weeks left in the regular season. Cubs have 1890 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,559 Speaker 6: lost five in a row. Cleveland beat Texas ninety two. 1891 01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:59,200 Speaker 6: The Rangers lost clinches playoff spots for both Baltimore and 1892 01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:02,639 Speaker 6: Tampa Bay. Baltimore beat Tampa Bay in eleven innings, again 1893 01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,520 Speaker 6: a early fourth quarter at New England. Miami up seventeen 1894 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:06,080 Speaker 6: to three. 1895 01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:08,880 Speaker 3: Back to you, Oh, Steve, I do want to update 1896 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:12,080 Speaker 3: you that Ramandre Stevenson did just explode for a three 1897 01:47:12,160 --> 01:47:12,959 Speaker 3: yard run. 1898 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,679 Speaker 6: So he's better than Josh Jacobs tonight. 1899 01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:20,280 Speaker 3: I just crushing it and they're on the move. But yeah, 1900 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,000 Speaker 3: thanks so much, my friend, Steve Di Sega. Great stuff tonight, 1901 01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:27,320 Speaker 3: Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph with you Tyrack dot Com Studios. Look, 1902 01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,120 Speaker 3: Mac Jones is fine. I think he's going to play 1903 01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,479 Speaker 3: in the league a long time. I'm watching this game 1904 01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:36,040 Speaker 3: tonight and this is not just based on tonight, and 1905 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:37,320 Speaker 3: I hate doing this. 1906 01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,719 Speaker 2: It's still kind of early in these guys' careers. 1907 01:47:40,320 --> 01:47:45,240 Speaker 3: But this was a much discussed quarterback class two and 1908 01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,679 Speaker 3: a half years ago coming out in the draft. Five 1909 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:52,320 Speaker 3: qbs in the top fifteen picks, and it was Trevor Lawrence, 1910 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:56,840 Speaker 3: Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones in that order, 1911 01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:00,920 Speaker 3: and Kyle. The way this is just me now exploring 1912 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,120 Speaker 3: my heart and my eyes the way I look at 1913 01:48:03,120 --> 01:48:06,000 Speaker 3: this right now, I think the league got a total 1914 01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:09,599 Speaker 3: of maybe one good starting quarterback out of that group. 1915 01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's still the jury's out on a 1916 01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,559 Speaker 1: few of those guys, A lot of them we've talked 1917 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:26,560 Speaker 1: about very in detail on this show. I wouldn't categorize 1918 01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:31,320 Speaker 1: Mac Jones with them just yet, and simply because of 1919 01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:37,080 Speaker 1: what he went through last year. I mean a special 1920 01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:40,400 Speaker 1: teams coordinator and a defensive coordinator, or your quarterback coach 1921 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 1: and an offensive coordinator, and your second year in the NFL, 1922 01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,840 Speaker 1: you're expected to take a step forward building off of 1923 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,200 Speaker 1: what you did your rookie year. With Josh McDaniels, it's 1924 01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,040 Speaker 1: just not only is it a complete year where he 1925 01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:58,120 Speaker 1: doesn't develop and grow on what he did year one, 1926 01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:02,120 Speaker 1: Ultimately he goes backwards and creates a lot of bad 1927 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,719 Speaker 1: habits that now Bill O'Brien comes in and you get 1928 01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:09,920 Speaker 1: a successful offensive play caller, coordinator, quarterback coach around him. Again, 1929 01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,680 Speaker 1: we got to fix that, like it just doesn't disappear. 1930 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,200 Speaker 1: So not only do you not develop into year two, 1931 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,439 Speaker 1: but you almost take a step backwards, and he isn't 1932 01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:25,080 Speaker 1: just building on the success that he had year one. 1933 01:49:25,400 --> 01:49:30,360 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's quite fair just yet to 1934 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:34,120 Speaker 1: throw mac Jones into that category, but it certainly is 1935 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:37,160 Speaker 1: looking more and more like it that Trevor Lawrence is 1936 01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:42,040 Speaker 1: and will be that only bona fide starting quarterback from 1937 01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:45,640 Speaker 1: that class. With five quarterbacks in the top fifteen. 1938 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not me saying that the other four 1939 01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:54,760 Speaker 3: are busts. You know, they are still developing and their 1940 01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,800 Speaker 3: careers can blossom, and they may end up in different 1941 01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:01,360 Speaker 3: situations that treat them better. Like I'll agree with all 1942 01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,799 Speaker 3: of that, but call it a prediction if you will. 1943 01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:09,200 Speaker 3: If I look at those five right now, and I said, 1944 01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:14,519 Speaker 3: who's getting the extension after next year from a team? 1945 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:17,280 Speaker 3: You know, we've been talking about who wants to sib 1946 01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:21,599 Speaker 3: up to pay their quarterback thirty or forty or good lord, 1947 01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:25,360 Speaker 3: fifty million dollars out of that group of five, I'm 1948 01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:29,599 Speaker 3: gonna put my chip on on Trevor Lawrence, and I'm 1949 01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:31,320 Speaker 3: gonna bet that the other four don't get it. 1950 01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,439 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and it's a world that we live in. 1951 01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:41,960 Speaker 1: These organizations have to make that decision on the fifth 1952 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,000 Speaker 1: year option after this year. So if you look at 1953 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:49,639 Speaker 1: those five year quarterbacks, those five first round quarterbacks, which 1954 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:54,439 Speaker 1: ones will get that fifth year option? Certainly Trevor Lawrence 1955 01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:59,360 Speaker 1: is guaranteed, And then you go down the list, probably 1956 01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:04,360 Speaker 1: not Zach Wilson, Definitely, obviously Trey Lance is somewhere else 1957 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:11,559 Speaker 1: justin fields mac Jones. I think if I'm a betting 1958 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:15,439 Speaker 1: man's it's Trevor Lawrence mac Jones, you might get the 1959 01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,000 Speaker 1: fifth year option, and then you know, you can start 1960 01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:21,320 Speaker 1: to negotiate your contract off of that. Certainly, if we're 1961 01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:24,559 Speaker 1: talking about the extensions that we were talking about before 1962 01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:29,280 Speaker 1: in terms of those high dollar quarterback numbers, Trevor Lawrence 1963 01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,840 Speaker 1: is your guy. He's going to be right up there 1964 01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:36,120 Speaker 1: with all the other fifty million dollar quarterbacks, whether that's 1965 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:41,479 Speaker 1: next year or the following year. The Patriots have never 1966 01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,000 Speaker 1: really been a team that does that. They didn't even 1967 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,720 Speaker 1: pay Tom Brady top dollar when he is the quarterback 1968 01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,360 Speaker 1: for all those years in New England. So that'll be 1969 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,479 Speaker 1: a very interesting situation as it plays out. Certainly this 1970 01:51:53,640 --> 01:51:56,040 Speaker 1: year and the way he plays this year and the 1971 01:51:56,080 --> 01:52:00,719 Speaker 1: growth that he shows this year will determine the fifth 1972 01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,639 Speaker 1: year option that has to be decided after year three 1973 01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,680 Speaker 1: and ultimately the big extension that a lot of these 1974 01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:07,679 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are seeing. 1975 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,360 Speaker 3: He did just drive the Patriots into the end zone 1976 01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,480 Speaker 3: for the first time tonight, Hunter Henry with a touchdown 1977 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,120 Speaker 3: catch from mag Jones. 1978 01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,559 Speaker 2: We've got a football game. 1979 01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,360 Speaker 3: And we'll keep you up to date with the Dolphins 1980 01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:22,599 Speaker 3: leading seventeen to ten. I want to dive a little 1981 01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:25,160 Speaker 3: further into your Eagles comments that you made a few 1982 01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:28,320 Speaker 3: minutes ago. Coming up next with Kyle Rudolph on Mark 1983 01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:29,840 Speaker 3: Ward on Fox Sports Radio. 1984 01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:33,639 Speaker 2: GINO is looking looking now. 1985 01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,639 Speaker 4: Through fourth time, it's looking does he reach the ball across? 1986 01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:41,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's over baby, touchdown Seahawks. 1987 01:52:41,960 --> 01:52:44,559 Speaker 5: Tyler Lockett's on a little pass out. 1988 01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:45,439 Speaker 1: Into the right side. 1989 01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:50,720 Speaker 4: Flan reaches the ball across the Pilon Heat scores game over. 1990 01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:54,360 Speaker 4: Seahawks win thirty seven to thirty one. 1991 01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,639 Speaker 3: Well, it's a good thing the Seahawks don't play on Thursday, 1992 01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,000 Speaker 3: because I don't think the. 1993 01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,599 Speaker 2: Seahawks radio network's going to be ready for it. 1994 01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:05,120 Speaker 3: Those announcers look like they're about out of voice. But 1995 01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,559 Speaker 3: that is the play of the day. Brought to you 1996 01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,920 Speaker 3: by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable. Get 1997 01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,360 Speaker 3: a multi policy discount by combining a motorcycle, RV, boat, 1998 01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:18,880 Speaker 3: ATV and more all your protection in one place. Bundle 1999 01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:22,559 Speaker 3: and save at Progressive dot Com, Mark Willard, Kyle Rudolph 2000 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:26,760 Speaker 3: live in the tire Raq dot Com studios. Okay, so 2001 01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,919 Speaker 3: I said, Eagles, Cowboys, Niners. Those are the three teams 2002 01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:35,400 Speaker 3: basically who have come out and started the year as expected, 2003 01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,760 Speaker 3: and you set the Eagles aside. Not a perfect day 2004 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,960 Speaker 3: for the forty nine ers either today they had to 2005 01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:45,599 Speaker 3: work in order to get it done in LA against 2006 01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:49,559 Speaker 3: the Rams. But I'd love to hear more about why 2007 01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:53,880 Speaker 3: you're setting the Eagles aside in a negative way, not 2008 01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,280 Speaker 3: on the same plane maybe as the forty nine ers 2009 01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:57,000 Speaker 3: of the Cowboys. 2010 01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,719 Speaker 1: I think it's just yes, their record are the same, 2011 01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:04,760 Speaker 1: they're in the same category in terms of two and 2012 01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:08,120 Speaker 1: O teams, but more so just the way the game 2013 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:12,400 Speaker 1: played out on Thursday night. Yeah, the Rams gave the 2014 01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:16,439 Speaker 1: forty nine ers a run for their money today in LA. 2015 01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:22,040 Speaker 1: That's a division game at home. That a seven point 2016 01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,639 Speaker 1: win on the road in the division is a great 2017 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,320 Speaker 1: win for the forty nine ers. I don't think that 2018 01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:31,320 Speaker 1: detracts from their two and oh start and their seat 2019 01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:35,160 Speaker 1: right at the top of the NFC at all. But 2020 01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:39,760 Speaker 1: when you watch that game on Thursday night and Minnesota 2021 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,280 Speaker 1: turning the ball over as many times as they did, 2022 01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:48,040 Speaker 1: just handing Philly opportunity after opportunity to really blow it 2023 01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:52,560 Speaker 1: wide open. Even more of a blowout than it was, 2024 01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:59,640 Speaker 1: only to let Minnesota hang around creep back in. You 2025 01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,320 Speaker 1: see the tempers flare a little bit. On the sideline. 2026 01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:04,960 Speaker 1: AJ Brown's not that excited that they're running the ball 2027 01:55:05,000 --> 01:55:09,720 Speaker 1: every single play and he's not as involved. You know, 2028 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:13,360 Speaker 1: Ultimately they got the job done. They made the big 2029 01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,600 Speaker 1: drive in the fourth quarter to go down and take 2030 01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:20,400 Speaker 1: the two possession lead again go back up thirteen. But 2031 01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:25,040 Speaker 1: it just didn't wow me. It certainly hasn't been like 2032 01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:30,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys first two games, and I think it's their 2033 01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:34,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco Dallas just on a little bit different plane. 2034 01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:39,360 Speaker 1: I mentioned it. I don't think that's Panic in Philadelphia. 2035 01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:43,440 Speaker 1: I just think they're not playing as well as their 2036 01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:47,920 Speaker 1: record indicates, or that we expect them to be playing. 2037 01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:50,640 Speaker 1: Being a defending NFC champ. 2038 01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:57,120 Speaker 3: Take me inside how you viewed the conversations. 2039 01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,400 Speaker 2: Or if you want to call him something more than that. 2040 01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:02,640 Speaker 3: On the sideline between Jen Hurts and AJ Brown, a 2041 01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,680 Speaker 3: team that scores thirty four points, they have a running 2042 01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:07,840 Speaker 3: back go off for a bucks seventy five. The other 2043 01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:12,240 Speaker 3: receiver goes off and has a big night. You get 2044 01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:15,640 Speaker 3: it from a fan standpoint, that's a bad look. For 2045 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,720 Speaker 3: for Aj Brown to be screaming at the quarterback when 2046 01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:23,600 Speaker 3: it seems like everything's going well except for him. But 2047 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen this with with all your time 2048 01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,040 Speaker 3: on the sidelines. What was your view of that, what's 2049 01:56:29,080 --> 01:56:29,720 Speaker 3: going on there? 2050 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,440 Speaker 1: Well, I've never met a wide receiver that doesn't want 2051 01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:40,120 Speaker 1: the ball every play. That's what makes elite receivers elite. 2052 01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, Aj Brown, I believe it's in his Instagram handle. 2053 01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,960 Speaker 1: He's always open, so you know he's gonna want the 2054 01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:52,800 Speaker 1: football and you know, ultimately it's it's part of the game. 2055 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,800 Speaker 1: You see it all the time. It's not a good 2056 01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:58,840 Speaker 1: look when your team's winning the game and you're running 2057 01:56:58,880 --> 01:57:02,440 Speaker 1: up and down the field with the run game. The 2058 01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:07,480 Speaker 1: other receiver opposite you is putting up big numbers and 2059 01:57:07,760 --> 01:57:11,520 Speaker 1: you know you're complaining on the sideline, arguing with the quarterback, 2060 01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,320 Speaker 1: argue with the head coach. But that's what makes those 2061 01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:20,360 Speaker 1: elite receivers so special. They're competitive, they want the ball. Yeah, 2062 01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:23,560 Speaker 1: the offense is doing well, but I want to contribute 2063 01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:25,840 Speaker 1: as well, and you know I'm winning on my routes. 2064 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting open. Jalen Hurts addressed it after the game 2065 01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,640 Speaker 1: in his press conference, he has no worries whatsoever about 2066 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:37,600 Speaker 1: AJ Brown. I don't think it's something that would cause 2067 01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:41,280 Speaker 1: problems because, like I said, I've seen it a million 2068 01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:44,440 Speaker 1: times on my own sidelines with all of the good 2069 01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:47,320 Speaker 1: receivers I've played with. They want the ball. That's what 2070 01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,560 Speaker 1: makes them special to me. It was more so just 2071 01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:54,480 Speaker 1: you know, they the way the game, the flow of it. 2072 01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:58,640 Speaker 1: You know, if Minnesota could just stop the run at all, 2073 01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:02,520 Speaker 1: Philly's offense would have really been in trouble in the 2074 01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:06,760 Speaker 1: first half. And transitioning to a new play caller, figuring 2075 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:10,000 Speaker 1: out how to use Jalen Hurts, how to make the 2076 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:14,240 Speaker 1: most out of that offense. They've got a very favorable 2077 01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,440 Speaker 1: schedule here the first six, seven, eight weeks, and I 2078 01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:20,000 Speaker 1: think they'll be okay. I just don't have them up 2079 01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 1: there right behind San Francisco in Dallas. 2080 01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:26,240 Speaker 3: My man, we just have about thirty seconds left. What 2081 01:58:26,240 --> 01:58:28,040 Speaker 3: do you think we're going to see? For an encore 2082 01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:29,560 Speaker 3: from Deshaun Watson tomorrow night. 2083 01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see Cleveland, you know, I mentioned I 2084 01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:36,040 Speaker 1: feel like that's a team that could be a sleeper 2085 01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:41,000 Speaker 1: in the AFC. A go as Nick Chubb goes it's 2086 01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:43,720 Speaker 1: a team that you know. Deshaun Watson's got to make 2087 01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:47,520 Speaker 1: enough plays to win the game. No, he's gotta get 2088 01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,040 Speaker 1: the ball to Nick Chubb, don't turn it over, be 2089 01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:53,640 Speaker 1: smart with the football. And I'm excited to see Cleveland 2090 01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:55,240 Speaker 1: follow up what they did last week. 2091 01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,040 Speaker 2: We'll see it tomorrow night.