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Speaker 1: So this episode, and I know, I know, I say

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Speaker 1: you to please welcome to the show. Garon Jones Man

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Speaker 1: Stories for Days. Thank you dev for this uh opportunity

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Speaker 1: in this moment. You are a celebrated, critically acclaimed global speaker.

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Speaker 1: are following you per se right followers? And this to

429
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: me is such a prime example because you had people

430
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: that followed you from Hollywood right, and then you were

431
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 1: leading them literally probably at that time, especially not realizing

432
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: it to a better version of themselves, just by you

433
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: being you and shining your authentic light. Now you've opened

434
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: them up to that second. I love what you shared

435
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: about this inner child work because every single person listening

436
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: right now, I am begging you to look into this

437
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: and to really expand upon this incredible transparency that Garen

438
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: just gave you. Because I myself, like I thought I

439
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: had been doing the work, which I have. I don't

440
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: want to say I thought I've been doing the work, um,

441
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: but having my son revealed to me new layers and

442
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: depth of the inner child work that I really needed

443
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: to focus on that I thought I had already moved

444
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: past because like my son looks identical to me, I

445
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: don't share him online, but we have the exact same face.

446
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: It is unreal. So when I when I would be

447
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,719
Speaker 1: holding him and I'd be looking down at him, I

448
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: would see the most perfect, precious, worthy, valuable soul I

449
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: had ever seen. Right like, as I'm looking at him,

450
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm just like you are whole, you are light, like

451
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: you are perfectly designed. But then it was causing this

452
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: inner turmoil in me that I wasn't really um It

453
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: took me a while to figure out, like like there

454
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: was some rigidness happening inside, because how could I feel

455
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: that way about this tiny soul that looks exactly like me?

456
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: But I didn't fully feel that way about baby me,

457
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: about little Debbie, you know, And I didn't realize that

458
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: in this moment in time, I love the hell out

459
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: of myself like I love me. I accept all of

460
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: me right now, and I feel so grateful, like to

461
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 1: be this version of myself and to just exist right

462
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: But what I realized was is I'm thinking grown Debbie

463
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: as the ship, but I'm still looking back at little

464
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: Debbie with a side I viewing her from this lens

465
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: of You're not enough, you, you're neglected, you're disheveled, like

466
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I had created this narrative in my mind about what

467
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: child me was that was not accurate or real, but

468
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: my warped narrative that stemmed because as a kid, you

469
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: don't know how to process things, and you don't have

470
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 1: the emotional bandwidth or vocabulary. My version of looking at

471
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: myself was like, she's this disheveled, unloved, unwanted, unlovable little

472
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: and so it's like I was repressing her. She's a child,

473
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: super resilient, amazing child. So part of my process, like

474
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: I love that you shared about writing that letter and

475
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: doing that kind of free form writing to yourself. For me,

476
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: what I did is I went and found in my pictures,

477
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: probably like what I would have previously considered as a

478
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: very awkward picture of me as a young person, like

479
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: a picture that I wouldn't want people to see. And

480
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: then I found a beautiful frame and I put it

481
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: in the frame, and I put it somewhere that I

482
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: see it every day, in my closet, at on my

483
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: little table that I stopped at every day, and every

484
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: single day I started walking by that picture and smiling

485
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: at her, talking to her like, praising her right like

486
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: and just um really a appreciating her and and speaking

487
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: to her with the same love I would give a

488
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: three year old a child or my own son, and

489
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: just over time, subconsciously and really like gently and subtly,

490
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: it completely changed everything. Like I was able to really

491
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: integrate what I was perceiving to be as these two

492
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: versions of me and integrate them so that there is

493
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: acceptance and love for every stage of who I've been,

494
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: right who I am, you know. And now that's like

495
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: probably my favorite picture of myself. And just maybe two

496
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: years ago I would have like cringed at the side

497
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: of that picture, you know, yeah, you know, it's it's

498
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: it's really powerful that you said that, because a lot

499
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: of times, actually all the time, the things that come

500
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: up in our lives and the things that um, you know,

501
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: that caused a lot of people problems and challenges and things.

502
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: A lot of times they look through the surface they're like, oh,

503
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: well he did this and that I keep Why does

504
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: this keep happening to me? Why is the same thing

505
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: keep happening? Why do I keep missing out on money?

506
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: How come I can't attract my soul mate? Well? What

507
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: is this? And then there's blame, but it's always on

508
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: the surface level. However, if you never cleared the space

509
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: from the point of the impact when it originated, it's

510
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: actually been serving you and recreating in your life in

511
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: many different variations and forums. That's why a lot of

512
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: girls that have daddy issues end up dating a guy

513
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 1: that's just like their daddy, or the men dating somebody

514
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: that's just like their mom, or vice versa. Things like that,

515
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: because they keep recreating their life over and over and

516
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: over because the point of impact the thing is still there.

517
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: So it's some angry little five year old girl who

518
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: never got her way, who knows whose parents never knowledged her,

519
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: never said I'm proud of you or anything. And then

520
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: what happens is you come ten years old, fifteen years old,

521
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: and you keep attracting the same exact outcome, but you

522
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: look to the thing that's around, but actually what's running

523
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: is a little five year old that's running the show

524
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: saying I'm not worthy, I'm not enough, I'm not enough.

525
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: It's never the adult because it doesn't originate in adults,

526
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: just like ABC's originates at the point of when you

527
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: first learned language, that is the impact ABC s. Then

528
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: you learn words, paragraph sentences, essays, then books, then libraries. Well,

529
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: the point of impact something that has impacted your life.

530
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: You got molested, you they said you know that, no

531
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: one ever told you they were proud of you. Whatever

532
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: that was the point of impact. Consider those the a

533
00:31:54,920 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: b cs of that particular context. And if it keeps going,

534
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: it will evolve, just like abc S turns into dance

535
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: and singing and all these other things. So it explodes

536
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: as you're an adult. But what's actually happening is the

537
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: little girl or the little boy who never they it's

538
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: still running. It's like a program that you leave open

539
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: on your phone that's so good, that's so powerful, and

540
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: you know it too. And have you noticed, like when

541
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: you kind of don't heal those spaces, you find that

542
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: everything you encounter as an adult, like especially with relationships, right,

543
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: Like say that same little girl you're speaking of meets

544
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: an amazing man, right and she's like, oh, he's too nice.

545
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't like nice guys. Or is this he gotta

546
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: you know what that really is is because of that trauma.

547
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: Because of that, you know, um harm you're normal is dysfunction.

548
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely anything that is seemingly good or right or aligned

549
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: or perfect or too nice, feel so foreign to you

550
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: that you want to like withdraw and seek out something

551
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: that feels more painful and go back to your comfort zone,

552
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: more comfortable comfort, right, Yeah, it's I mean, it's easy

553
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: to go back to what you know. It's easy. You

554
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: know what's difficult is if I handed you a book

555
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: on Japanese, you never spoke it before. You want to

556
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: speak this new language. That's difficult. So anytime you want

557
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: to integrate something new in your life, it's like learning

558
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: a new language. So you must immerse yourself in that language,

559
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: not like try it with Rosetta stone once a week.

560
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: You've got to immerse yourself into it. Yeah. And so

561
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean this is a really powerful topic because I

562
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: had something happened to me three years ago and I

563
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: had the jaw. My jaw was infected and it was

564
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: like the size of fanos from it from from Avengers.

565
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: And I had to go see a specialist and I

566
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: said what happened. He was like, you gotta get a

567
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: root canal. I'm like, there's already a root canal here.

568
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: They said, Well, whoever did their originally originally did the

569
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: root canal. They never got it to the root at

570
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: the route. So you've got fifteen years of infections, and

571
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: so what's showing up now? You see where I'm going.

572
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: So what's showing up now is because at the point

573
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: of where it was supposed to be taken care of,

574
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: it's still it's still rotten. So it was built on

575
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: the foundation of something that's rotten. Relationships break up like that,

576
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: um offices, businesses, and everything, because you could be in

577
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: a relationship with a guy or a girl and be like, no,

578
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: deep down inside, you don't want to be into it.

579
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: You don't want to be in it. That's the foundation

580
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: that you're trying to build off of. So five teen

581
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: years later, boom, what happened? I don't understand. You never

582
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: wanted to be in it. So in this context, if

583
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: there's all these problems that keep happening in your life,

584
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: don't look at the surface, look at the root. Cause

585
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: when you look at them, because I had to pay

586
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: ten times more, they cut half my jaw open to

587
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: do something that could have easily been taken care of

588
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 1: if it was done the right way at the point

589
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: of impact. To begin with, MHM, Listen, I've learned the

590
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: hard way through physical pain and experiences and this is

591
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: how I've gained the knowledge to all of this, this

592
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: wisdom that is supporting me in my in my and

593
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: my change. Yeah. Can we can we go back a

594
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: little bit because I want to talk about getting from

595
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: Steph Jones to Garen Jones, getting from the jeep and

596
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: the storage unit six d three countries globally speaking, becoming

597
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, really attracting so much affluence into your life.

598
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Where did that come in? So here, I am lowest

599
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: point of my life. Girlfriend had just broken up with me,

600
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: daughter pretty much disowned me. Um, my mom was dying

601
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: in the hospital. Everybody in my family was unhealthy, living

602
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: in my car for two and a half years, and

603
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I was two d thousand dollars in debt. Oh no,

604
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: it was crazy. I tried to kill myself twice and

605
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: I failed at that. So here I am. And this

606
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: was around the same time. Um, we were hanging out

607
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: and so I'm at I'm on the corner of Librea

608
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: and sunset Um at the at the I used to

609
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: park my car in the frozen yogurt, that little lot,

610
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: the mail and more lot, and I remembered that one

611
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: day it was like raining August two thousand and eleven

612
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: window was busted out because the day before somebody broke

613
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: into my car stole everything that I had, and I

614
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: was just like, man, can it get any worse? And

615
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: it kept getting worse, but then I finally stopped saying

616
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: that I yelled in that moment, I had it. It

617
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: was my spiritual awakening and I just cried out at

618
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: peak state, and I was like, Okay, I'm tired of fighting.

619
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to fight anymore. I want to be healthy,

620
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: I wanna be happy. I wanna be surrounded by nothing

621
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: but positive people. I just want to inspire people. And

622
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: I want to make a bunch of money, but I

623
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: want the money to represent something that I passionately believe

624
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: in that I would do for free. Just show me

625
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: a sign, Show me a sign, Show me a sign.

626
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: And it was silence, but I was like cursing and crying.

627
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: It was crazy. I had never been at that. I

628
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: was like there was something coming out of me. A

629
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: week later, I'm at the gas station with my last

630
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: two dollars and then a homeless guy quote unquote comes

631
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: up to me and asked me for money, and I said,

632
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: and I was I was doing an independent film that

633
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: that wasn't paying me anything because doing an independent film

634
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: in Inglewood, and I went to the gas station with

635
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: my last two dollars. Homeless guy walks up to me.

636
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: He says, do you have any money? I said, you

637
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: have more money than me, and he goes, change your mindset,

638
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: change your life. And right there it was like I

639
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: had a conscious interrupt and everything. It was like my

640
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: whole entire life was a lie because in that moment,

641
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: those words, it weren't his words, it was backed by

642
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: something that just like vibrated through my whole body. Change

643
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: your mindset, change your life. Because he had walked off,

644
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: but I kept saying the words change your mindset, change

645
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: your life, change your mindset. So if my mind is

646
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: set on something, then that's why the result, this is

647
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: what it is. So if I do different with the

648
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: same circumstance, my life will change. So from there I

649
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: just kept playing with the word. I would get to escalators,

650
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: change your mindset, change your life. I would walk the stairs.

651
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: I would normally do jail, so change your change your mindset,

652
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: change your life. So I would do bar so normally

653
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: I would wake up at eleven a m. Change your mindset,

654
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: change your life, I'll wake up at seven am. I'll

655
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: start waking up early. I was normally unhealthy. Change your mindset,

656
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: change your life. I made a conscious decision to get healthy,

657
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: and that's when the health I started meeting all these

658
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: people that were introducing me to opportunity to become healthy.

659
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: And so it's been eight years of me creating new

660
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: neural pathways in my brain without me even knowing what

661
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: I was doing, simply because I was doing the opposite

662
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: that I would normally do in areas of my life

663
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: that I wasn't happy. But I had built up the

664
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: momentum because it was easy for me to do the

665
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: opposite and something like doing the stairs, but the object

666
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: in motion stays in motion, so I just kept doing it.

667
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: So when it came to something really big, I was

668
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: already in momentum of simply doing the opposite. So I'm

669
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: eight years removed from somebody who was trying to kill himself.

670
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Now I'm breathing life into the world because I'm doing

671
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: the opposite. Reading books is the opposite. Um, going to

672
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: seminars is the opposite. Being a part of the health

673
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: community was the opposite. Cutting my hair at the time

674
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: was the opposite. Growing my hair was the opposite. Learning

675
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: from people studying gurus and and and and uh, not

676
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: watching TV, not scrolling. All of that was a part

677
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: of the opposite. Going from two dollars in debt to

678
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: slightly under um double figures uh in the two Comic

679
00:40:55,239 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: Club uh, and in my net worth per year as

680
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: a black man in America who couldn't even pay childs

681
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: before eight years ago. They featured me in Forbes last

682
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: month and Entrepreneur last week. Wow, do you all understand

683
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: that this is so much free game? And if you

684
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: didn't have your pen for this episode, I need you

685
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: to press pause right now. Go grab one that is

686
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: so powerful. That's so powerful, That's how it started. How

687
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: beautiful is it too that to just take a moment

688
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: and understand that like truth and revelation can come through

689
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: any sources. To keep your eyes open, your ears open,

690
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: and your judgment completely down. Because this man asking you

691
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: for money at a gas station gave you your breakthrough,

692
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: and he was just as worthy of giving a breakthrough

693
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: as if it had been a multibillionaire whop you on

694
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: the street with a bit of advice. Wow, absolutely take

695
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: me through the building of your current life and business

696
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: because it went from that moment in the gas station

697
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: to now you being where you are. And I think

698
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: it's so important for people to know, especially like for

699
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: people that are looking for radical change and shifts in

700
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: their life. And there's a certain amount of people that

701
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: probably listen to this podcast that really want to dive

702
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: into the entrepreneurial space and build something of purpose, Like

703
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: how do you because I remember it started with Herbal Life.

704
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: It started with because I had I had like bought

705
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: one of your first packages. Come on, let's get me

706
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: right and tight um, and it started with that. And

707
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: so how because it's what I think is so special too,

708
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: is like probably when you started selling Herban Life, you

709
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: didn't you couldn't even conceive that that would eventually with

710
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: other work leads you to dropping this book leads you

711
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: to being honest stage in some in some countries, some

712
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: foreign land, you know. So it's like also that commitment

713
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: to the marathon to stay in the course of just

714
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: forward movement, even if you don't have the perfect vision

715
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: board of like this is where I want to be. Yeah,

716
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, I always knew that I was supposed to

717
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: be on stages. I didn't know how so whether it

718
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: was music, whatever, I just always knew. I always saw

719
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: a crowd of people. And when I made that cry

720
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: in the car, I want to make a difference in

721
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: the world. I didn't put a boundary on what platform

722
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: it was, so it didn't matter. Some people put boundaries

723
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: on why I don't I want to do this, but

724
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it like that, you don't

725
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: know what God gonna bring to you. So I was

726
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: actually open to all boundaries. And because I was open

727
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: to all boundaries, my blessings didn't have a boundary, because

728
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: how you do anything is how you do everything. And

729
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: but see, at this time, I wasn't aware. So just

730
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: by not being aware but open, all the possibilities led

731
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: me to something else. Because here's the thing, here's how

732
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: it works. When you have a big vision and you

733
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: can clearly state where you're going, anything that comes is

734
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: a part of your journey. But if you don't, then

735
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: you're subject to everything else. But because I had the

736
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: big vision, the breakup was a part of the journey

737
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: because I had to learn a certain lesson that was

738
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: gonna grow my heart in a certain way. And then

739
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a matter of Starbucks and I'm

740
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: meeting this person right here who led me to this person,

741
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: who led me to this person who led me to this,

742
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: and oh my god, I came. But I should have

743
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: never said yes to this, But then I said yes

744
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: to this, and on the way leave being I meet

745
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: this person and I'm like, damn, if I wasn't at

746
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: this place, then I wouldn't have met this person. And

747
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: then the cookie trails just led to this to this

748
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: to this, and then when I connect the dots looking backwards,

749
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, this was all part of the journey that

750
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: was connected to my vision. The thing about it, they

751
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: don't put first graders in fifth grade because you gotta

752
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: pass a series of tests to comprehend that you understand

753
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: the grade that you're in right now. And so I

754
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 1: had to pass all these things. The universe, the only

755
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: way that it can test you is through things that's

756
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: connected to your heart. That's the only way to get

757
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: your attention because if it's if if it ain't connected

758
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: to your heart, you're cool on it. So it will

759
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: use your mama, your kids, your husband, and your family.

760
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: It'll use everybody that it can. But when you stay

761
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: connected and locked, once you go one step past that

762
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody starts falling right back in alignment.

763
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: That happened with my daughter, that happened with my fiance,

764
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: that happened with my mom, my brother, my aunt. But

765
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: I stayed. And because I stayed, what comes from the

766
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: heart goes into the heart. Let's just pretend that my

767
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: vision is the big heart. It's the Pacific Ocean. I

768
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: am the river that's connected to the Pacific Ocean. I

769
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: just gotta stay connected to that and everything else that

770
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: was along that. It was there to test me to

771
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: see if what I wanted is what I really wanted.

772
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: And when I look back, I'm like, oh, that's why

773
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: that happened. That's why that happened. That's why that happened.

774
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: So all of that the last eight years was shaping

775
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: me and molding me to be the kind of person

776
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: that can talk to uds, crips, strippers, people who have

777
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: been shot people, I mean, people who have been through

778
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: the wringer because they ain't gonna listen to somebody they

779
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: can't relate to. And I'm like, oh, when I was

780
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: a little kid, I said I wanted to be a superhero.

781
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Name one superhero that didn't have traumatic things that they

782
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: went through to gain their superhero powers. So it makes

783
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: sense why the bigger the message, the bigger the audience,

784
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: the bigger the platform. Why I'm used to go all

785
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: over the world to speak one message of freedom and

786
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: no matter the religion, the gender, all these different things,

787
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: everybody can relate. But if I hadn't have gone through

788
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: all those it would be no possible way that I

789
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 1: could hold a candle to the life that I'm living

790
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: right now, because I'm operating at the capacity of somebody

791
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 1: that can hold that space. I had to grow through

792
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: all those tests first, Yeah, yeah, God, you know what.

793
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: And something I say all the time to people is like,

794
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: don't hoard your testimony, like your story is meant to

795
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: be shared. Absolutely, And it's like that old saying of

796
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: like the truth self shut, the truth shall set you free.

797
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: It's like standing in your truth will set you free

798
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: from whatever you're facing. Also take you to hype. So

799
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't even fathom, couldn't even fathom, couldn't even fathom.

800
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I never I never could have imagined. However,

801
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: it makes all the sense in the world because it

802
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: was connected to my vision. When I'm like I'm locked.

803
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: So it makes sense. When I was just like, oh,

804
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: you book this, Oh this happened, this is coming, you

805
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: met this person, you went here, this is happening. It's like, oh,

806
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: this is really cool. People like yo, who is your agent?

807
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, my agent. I paid the price. You're

808
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: gonna be rewarded for the price you paid. If you're

809
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: an alignment with something that is true and pure, your

810
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: intention is clear as connected to people, there's no greed,

811
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: no ego. Whatever price you paid in the past, trust

812
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: me you that was an investment. You didn't pay a

813
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: price that was an investment, and you will get a

814
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: return that's ten times more. Yeah. Yeah, God. And it's

815
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: too It's like when people and I think social media

816
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: has really created this space, but when people chase success

817
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: out of ego, it will always elude you. You know,

818
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: it will never feel like whatever your expectation of how

819
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: it should look or feel will be. That was exactly

820
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: my story when I was in the music industry. I

821
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: want to I wanted to be famous so bad, and

822
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 1: I will look into the mirror and I would see nothing.

823
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: And then when I just started transforming, and I was like,

824
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't actually care to be famous.

825
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: I really don't. I just want to help people. I

826
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: just want to make a difference in people's lives. I

827
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: want to live life in such a way so that

828
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: people can see what true freedom is like, so that

829
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: they can utilize their own God given talent and produce

830
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: extraordinary results in their life. Give me any platform to

831
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: create that, whether it be a book, whether it be

832
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: health and nutrition, whether it be you know, whether it

833
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: be an invention. You give me any platform, and it's

834
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: connected to that. Yes. And because I'm so clear, they

835
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: come in super clear. It's just matching the way I

836
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: see it. I'm not looking through I think I'm trying to.

837
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: I am locked. I'm locked in and I'm clear, And

838
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: so it's just it's matching me. It's all matching me. Wow. Wow,

839
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: How does it feel in this moment to be this

840
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: version of yourself? Like how when you're feeling the most

841
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: present and the most aligned, what comes through for you?

842
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: You know? It's just absolute peace and joy. And I

843
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, I had a misconstrued um version of what

844
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: I thought success was. Like, my new success, my new

845
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: luxury is peace of mind. It's like when when I

846
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: go to sleep at night and all the lights are down.

847
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: It's like peaceful and it's calm, and I'm like genuinely

848
00:51:53,480 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: proud of myself. So but it I've become accustomed to it.

849
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: So you put a boiling if you put a frog

850
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: in boiling water, it's going to explode because it wasn't

851
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: accustomed to it. But if you put a frog in

852
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 1: lukewarm water and then you gradually raise the temperature once

853
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: it gets to boiling, it's already adjusted to the environment.

854
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Speaker 1: So I adjusted to the evolution of garin. So right now,

855
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm very peaceful. I'm forty years old, look

856
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: twenty five. You know. The fountain of youth is getting

857
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 1: rid of all of your resentments, being able to forgive

858
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: and doing the stuff that you absolutely love, and you

859
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: will be Your life will be restored because age don't

860
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: make you old. It's when you let your life beat

861
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: you down your spirit, your spirit starts to sag and

862
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: it can't hold that weight. I learned this from somebody

863
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: who's a hundred and six years old. That was my

864
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: old neighbor. I hope that I hope that if you're

865
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,280
Speaker 1: listening to this show right now, what you're really taking

866
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: away is a new openness of yourself, a new level

867
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: of surrender because like what you share, like that dark

868
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: knight of the soul that you experienced with screaming out

869
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: and just being open like that. People ask me all

870
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: the time, like, well, what's like a life hack? You know?

871
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: I get d m so constantly by people saying, well,

872
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: just tell me, like something I can do right now

873
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: so that I can completely change my life. And I'm like, what,

874
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that. Um, there's no like, there's

875
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: no shortcuts in the way that you're envisioning a shortcut.

876
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: But I do believe that not all transformation has to

877
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: come through pain. But you have to be open. You

878
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: have to be open. You have to reach a point

879
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: where you are choosing to be honest with yourself the

880
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: perceived good and bad of whatever that entails, and you

881
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 1: choose openness that whatever comes through, I'm ready to receive.

882
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: I gotta do is look at your hands and ball

883
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: your fists up. Came nothing come in there. But when

884
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,879
Speaker 1: you open your hands, you can actually you can put

885
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: money there, you can put fruit, um, you can hold

886
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: a baby, like there's so many different things that you

887
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: can do. But I'm gonna you can hold gratitude absolutely

888
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: to fists full of perspective, new perspective. There's two things

889
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: that I know that you can do. It ain't gonna,

890
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change your life like that. However, it

891
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: can create an opening and it will plant a seed

892
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: that will start you on your journey. Here's one of them.

893
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: Whatever your dominant hand is, for thirty days, use your

894
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: non dominant hand to eat, to brush your teeth, to

895
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: do your hair, to wipe your butt when you when

896
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: you're using the restroom. And I'm not even joking, sleep

897
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: on the other eye of the bed. And if you

898
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: do that for thirty days, because it's something you've never

899
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: done before, and because it's something you've never done before,

900
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a difficult time to do it. And

901
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: because it'll, yeah, it'll be so difficult. However, it's gonna

902
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: operate a part of your brain that you don't use.

903
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: And because it operates a part of your brain that

904
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: you don't use, you're gonna have to forced to be stimulated. Well,

905
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: when you're stimulated, you're you're using a capacity. It's just

906
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: like when cell phones get new features, people like, oh

907
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: my god, imagine if iPhone one went to iPhone two

908
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: and they didn't change nothing. Well, as humans, if you

909
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: don't change anything, you had no new features to your attitude,

910
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: it's the same, the same, the same. And say you're

911
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 1: serving up people no new upgrades, nothing, Well, just like

912
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: a phone, if the users ain't gonna come back because

913
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: they're not getting the new features, well guess what your

914
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: life and all this new stuff, it's not gonna come

915
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: in because you're serving up old stuff. Just like a

916
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: MOULDI person just sitting there doing the same thing over

917
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: and over and over. So due to opposite of everything

918
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: that you would normally do, use your opposite hand. Do

919
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: that for thirty days, you will notice a drastic change.

920
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: Here's another thing. So I had a conversation with this

921
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 1: girl a month ago and she she had money, she

922
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: had the relationship, she had cars, she had the job.

923
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: And she said, I feel like I'm missing something and

924
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: she was sad, and I said, what what did you

925
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: love when you were a child. And this is the

926
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: biggest hack ever. Why Because the heart is one of

927
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: the most powerful frequencies in the world. Most people don't

928
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: even use it. She said, I used to love the

929
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: play the piano was the last time you played the

930
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: piano twenty years ago? When you used to play the

931
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: piano when you were a child, how did you feel? Oh?

932
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: It made it used to make me feel so free

933
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 1: and so loving and uh so joyous everything. What do

934
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: you do in your life right now that you absolutely

935
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: love that makes you so free and so joyous? Nothing?

936
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: I do what everybody else tells me that I should do. Okay,

937
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: So I said, do you have any kids? She was like,

938
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: I have to. I said, imagine your daughter coming up

939
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: to your leg and saying mom, mom, Mom, Mom, Mom,

940
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: mom mom, and you're ignoring her for twenty years. What

941
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: do you think the relationship would be like? She said,

942
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be one. She wouldn't trust me. I said, well,

943
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: the thing that you loved as a child, let's just

944
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: say it's connected to your inner inner child, which is

945
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: connected to your spiritual umbilical cord to heaven source energy.

946
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: Let's just say that's been She's been trying to get

947
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: your intention for twenty years, and you've been ignoring her

948
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: for twenty years. So what do you think the relationship

949
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: to your soul and the physical is like your soul

950
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: meaning meaning your inner child not there, like something is missing.

951
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: I said, Bingo, go back and actually nurture your child

952
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: and give it energy until you love her, and then

953
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: start playing the piano to three times a week. So

954
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: she starts playing the piano to three times a week.

955
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: And I see her a year later, and she had

956
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: aged backwards. All of her ailments were gone, and she said,

957
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: I started attracting things that never attract I'm like, yeah,

958
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: because you're using your heart. You're coming from your heart,

959
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: not from money, not from business that's outside. You use

960
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: what's inside. Overflow that and let people benefit from the

961
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: overflow that you first give to yourself, not the other

962
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: way around. So whatever it is out there, everybody, remember

963
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: what you love this little kid, go and do it

964
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: and feel what it feels like. Don't try to make

965
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: sense of it. You couldn't make sense of abc S. However,

966
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: you showed up for class and all of a sudden

967
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: language happened. This is something that you can use that

968
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: will increase your happiness, that will just have you truly

969
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: be in your heart, and you can take that and

970
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: put it and transferred to anything that you want to

971
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: do in life. You'll feel a thousand times better. I

972
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: love that. Before we wrap up, if you would give

973
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: me three books that you think the audience should tap into.

974
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: The Power of Positive Thinking by Dr Norman Vincent Peel.

975
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: I've read it three seven times between the paperback and audiobook.

976
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that again. The Power of Positive Thinking

977
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: by Dr Norman Vincent Peel. That's one of them, Okay.

978
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: The other one is The Power by Rhonda Byron's. She's

979
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: the one who did um uh, she did The Secret,

980
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: but her next book was The Power. It's all about

981
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: generosity and gratitude and love. I've listened to it over

982
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: and over and over. Next book, Change Your Mindset, Change

983
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: Your Life by Garon Jones, out in November, and it's

984
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: all of these things that I'm sharing. We'll all be

985
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: in the book, but it'll just show you all the

986
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: lessons how you can apply it to your life, all

987
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: the things that I went through. It's gonna be really, really,

988
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: really awesome. And I can't wait to hear all of

989
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: y'all's feed forward, not feedback, but feed forward when y'all

990
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: get that book and post the quotables online and can

991
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: people connect with you through your social media to get

992
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: like to find out about like signing events or absolutely

993
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: well my website. My website is Gary and Jones dot com.

994
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: Uh g A R r Ai N Jones dot com. Um,

995
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: my Instagram, Garon dot Jones, Facebook, Garon Jones. I mean,

996
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of stuff and all of

997
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: this everyon. I'm gonna tag all of this on my

998
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: Instagram post for this episode. You guys can see it

999
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: on my page two and just click through if that'll

1000
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: be easier to to remember. I'm gonna I'm gonna close out.

1001
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: I love your your bio in your Instagram the modern

1002
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: day superhero guiding people to achieving whole life success, and

1003
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: that is exactly who you are in this moment. I'm

1004
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 1: just I'm so um deeply happy for you in this

1005
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: beautiful life that not only life that you've created, but

1006
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: the life that you are actively sharing with us. And

1007
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: I thank you and I just love you and I

1008
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: love you too, and thank you so much. It's, uh,

1009
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: it's people like you that because you you, you've always

1010
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: supported and you supported a lot of people's people like

1011
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: you that create platforms that give stories like mine wings

1012
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 1: to fly. And uh, you know, I know that there's

1013
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna be some people out there to be like you

1014
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: know what, me too. I get to do something different

1015
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: with my time, effort, and energy. So thank you. Yeah,

1016
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm grateful you exist. Thank you for joining the show.

1017
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I would definitely be at the

1018
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 1: book event and buying things. Congrats on your beautiful union

1019
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 1: with your queen. Thank you so much. I'm so excited.

1020
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: I used to be so afraid to get in a relationships.

1021
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get on locked down until I realized, No,

1022
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 1: when you find the right one, you're amplifying up and

1023
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: then we're not two halves, we're two holes. Two holes

1024
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: create infinity to havels make a zero. So she's whole,

1025
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: I'm whole, and we just amplify up all that and she's,

1026
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: if not more powerful than me, we just just keep

1027
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: leveling each other up. I love that we're gonna have

1028
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: to do a part two too, because I would love

1029
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: to do an episode with you where we specifically talk

1030
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: about love, manhood, and fatherhood. So many phenomenal gems and

1031
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: stories in both of those spaces as well. Yeah, yeah,

1032
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: so we're gonna be doing this again. Yeah, let's do it.

1033
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening. Catch you next time. Big

1034
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to this episode of the Dropping

1035
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: Gems podcast. This show is executive produced by Adrian Scott

1036
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: and me Debbie Brown. Our theme music was created by

1037
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Speaker 1: producer day One and the poem that you heard at

1038
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Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, well that was created especially

1039
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: for us by award winning poet and I'm Boka for

1040
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: If you have a quick moment right now, please hit

1041
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: subscribe on the show and if you like what you heard,

1042
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: take it a step further and give us a five

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: star rating. Until next time, you connect with me on

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01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: I g at Debbie Brown or my website Debbie brown

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Speaker 1: dot com. Be blessed, h