1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot, 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 4 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola and it's time for another edition of 6 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: mix Shots. On this Thursday morning, May seventh, two thousand 7 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: and twenty, Bill Jones with Mickey Spagnola and Everson Walls 8 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: on another one of those days that we've all been 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: waiting for. Yes, this is NFL's schedule release day and 10 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna preview that over the course of the next hour. 11 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: And there's so much more to get to as well. Mickey, 12 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: how are you are doing? I'm doing fine, Bill, And 13 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: it was good to see Everson there. Take a big 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: last gulp of his coffee drink, sir, all right, Yes, yes, 15 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: the drink of champions. The drink very good. And he 16 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: is a champion. Everson Walls is a champion. That's exactly right. 17 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Are you sitting at the edge of your seat just 18 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: waiting for that schedule to come out? Yes, I am, 19 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: I am. I can't wait for it. U for a 20 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: season that we probably won't even play, you know, come on, 21 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: come on now, be optimistic. Can somebody give me a vaccine? 22 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: We got vaccine, And hey, this is the most optimistic 23 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: day of this whole We're entering week number nine of 24 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: our nation being walked down. Basically, this is day number 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: fifty seven. And by the way, speaking of the number 26 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: fifty seven, I do believe that is the number of 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: interceptions that Everson Walls had National Football League career. But 28 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: this is the most optimistic day because we are looking 29 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: ahead to what will be a season this fall. So 30 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: do you say, Okay, I'm gonna down the guys, I'm 31 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: gonna do it down. I'm gonna be We're gonna We're 32 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna intercept. We're gonna intercept COVID nineteen. There you go, 33 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: There you go. But we got a lot to talk about. 34 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: The Cowboys have been making news left and right, and 35 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: they just continue to sign these former first round draft 36 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: picks in free agency. Well, Bill, they uh the last 37 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: one they just signed Cameron Irving. Uh. And I thought 38 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: this was pretty good. And I'm gonna brag on myself 39 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: because last Friday I talked about I am yes. So 40 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: just no, no Everson, no one else will. No one 41 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: else will brag on Mickey, so he's got to brag 42 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: on him, that's right, no one else will. So on 43 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: Friday and my column I talked about all the things 44 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys accomplished, but they had three more things to accomplish. 45 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: One was signing a backup swing tackle. One was to 46 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: find an inexpensive, experienced defensive van for the edge on 47 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: the right side. And the other one with all these 48 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks out there floating around, why not sign one 49 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: of those guys to an inexpensive contract as a backup. 50 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: So what did they do? The next day? They signed 51 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: Dalton Andy Dalton to be the backup quarterback, and then 52 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: yesterday Cameron Irving to be the backup swing tackle or 53 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: at least compete for it. So that one more step 54 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: to go, and they go to Daylowney next. Maybe if 55 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: he wants to play in a one year prove it deal, 56 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: I bet he doesn't. Yeah, you know, um, And usually 57 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: it comes down to what his salary demands are. And 58 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: that was the That was the beauty of this Andy 59 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Dalton deal, Mickey, when you look at what Dalton was 60 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: willing to play for, you know, and when you look 61 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: at his whole contract situation. UM, you know, I believe 62 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: he was due to make around seventeen million dollars. Obviously 63 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: he was not going to make that this year U 64 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: with with Cincinnati. Um, but I thought it was very 65 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: prudent on his part to go to the Bengals and say, hey, 66 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna let go of me eventually, anyway, do it now? 67 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: And uh. And it only took a couple of days 68 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: before he had to deal with what is essentially his 69 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: hometown team, the Cowboys, and he got some money up front, 70 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: which he was not. You know, depending on what happens 71 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: with this season, he may not get any money if 72 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: we played this out and we don't have a season 73 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: the way his contract was structured before. So so Bill, Yeah, 74 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. And you know, the Cowboys were able 75 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: to have another, you know, another player just fall in 76 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: their lap. All the all the things kind of met right. Uh. 77 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: Dalton becomes the free agent they released him. He's willing 78 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: to accept a backup role and at a backup role 79 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: price you mentioned that got him for a good deal. 80 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean it's a one year, three million dollar deal. 81 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: He gets a million dollars up front, two million dollars 82 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: based salary and incentives that he can make a heck 83 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: of a lot more if he has to play. So 84 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: to me, it's an insurance policy for a guy that 85 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: has started one hundred and thirty three games in his 86 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: career in the National Football League. And this is kind 87 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: of their John Kitten, a Kyle Orton, Mark Sanchez type 88 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: deal where you get a guy that has experienced, you know, 89 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: he has Dalton has as many Pro Bowl appearances as 90 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush had NFL career attempts three each. Right, So 91 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: to me, to get this guy at and here's the 92 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: other thing that falls in their lap, he's out a 93 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: house here in Dallas. So in this and he said 94 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: yesterday in his conference call that you know, the COVID 95 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: nineteen thing didn't have anything to do with it, but 96 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: it certainly makes it easier to play for a team. 97 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: And you don't have to move somewhere else, You don't 98 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: have to move your family because in the offseason they 99 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: live here in Dallas. And was willing to pay for 100 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: play for like I said, three million dollars plus incentives, 101 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: and he put a million dollars in the bank already 102 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: with the signing bonus and as you said, or as 103 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Everson said, if they don't play the season, he still 104 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: gets the signing bonus. I would imagine they're not going 105 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: to cancel that out. So at least he made some money. 106 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: And he was unemployed. Hey, it's May first. I don't 107 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: have a job. I don't know if I'm going to 108 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: play any games. And he took care of all that 109 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: stuff by signing with the Cowboys. Yeah. I think it 110 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: was very smart. Okay, and every Everson, I am being 111 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: told by our producer Chris Bean that you need to 112 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: reboot your app in case you aren't hearing Chris. And 113 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: so until I get word that Everson is back with us, Mickey, 114 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: let's let's talk about this. You know, Dalton, I think 115 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: it's easy for Andy to go to his wife and say, hey, 116 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: this is the way this lays out. We don't know 117 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: whether we're going to have a season or not. Right now, 118 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: we've got no money coming in. I take this deal 119 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: with our hometown team, and we got our bills paid 120 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: and then some up front right now. Well, Bill, and 121 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: you know the other thing he probably looked at is 122 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: he saw how other quarterbacks have kind of done a 123 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: similar thing and rebooted their careers. Think about you know 124 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: what Teddy Bridgewater did in New Orleans. He gets a 125 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: job in Carolina. Foles kind of rebooted his career. Didn't 126 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: work out in Jacksonville, but he's in Chicago. You get 127 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston probably looked around and said, huh, musical chairs 128 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: are spinning and I might not have a seat. I'll 129 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: go take this one year deal with the Saints, and 130 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: maybe the same thing could happened. And look what happened 131 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: to Ryan Tannehill. He kind of bet on himself going 132 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: to Tennessee and then he ends up the starting quarterback. 133 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: So I'm sure Dalton looked at this thing and said, Okay, 134 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, I still think I'm a starting quarterback, but 135 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: if I have to be a backup for a year, 136 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: so be it. And like I said, and if he plays, 137 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: he makes more money. If he plays fifty percent of 138 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: the regular season snaps and the Cowboys go to the playoffs, 139 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: he makes another million dollars. If he plays thirty five 140 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: percent of the snaps and plays fifty percent of the 141 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: snaps in the playoffs and they win a first round game, 142 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: he makes another five hundred thousand dollars. So again, he 143 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: understands he's in a situation where he's the insurance policy. 144 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: If they don't need him, okay, it makes three million. 145 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: If they need him, he has an opportunity to make 146 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: more if he's productive. I gotta say. I read a 147 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: quote from him saying that he's working on the second 148 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: half of his career. That made me a little nervous. Okay, 149 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't want him to work on the second half 150 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: of his career here. That means that Dak is not playing, 151 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: so didn't I was not happy about those words at all. 152 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: If he's gonna come here, I want him to be 153 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: here for one year. If a Teddy Bridgewater thing happens 154 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: for him, that means that Dak has gone down for 155 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: one reason or another. So you know, I love my 156 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: homeboard coming back home. I'm all about the Texas athlete. 157 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: Me and Bill were all about that. But now I 158 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: don't want Andy. I don't want Andy to touch the 159 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: field unless it's a blowout. I'm sorry, And you know what, 160 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: And he understands by saying that. I think he understands 161 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: that the market will be different next year because he 162 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: got released so late, so teams have already drafted their quarterbacks. 163 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: They've already signed all these other veterans, and he was 164 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: late to the party because, as Bill said, Cincinnati kind 165 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: of hung onto him until they finally said, well what 166 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: was it, Bill, the last two days of April before 167 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: they released them sure day of April. And you can 168 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: really relate it to Nick Foles at Jacksonville because early 169 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: on in free agency, when obviously Chicago once wanted to 170 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: have competition for Mitchell Trubisky, there's a lot of talk 171 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: that maybe there'd be a trade where Dalton could go 172 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati to Chicago. Well, they went with Nick Foles, 173 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: and had Dalton been released at the beginning of free agency, 174 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: he would have been right in the mix to get 175 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: the same kind of contract that Foles got in Chicago, 176 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: which is, I believe twenty million dollars guaranteed to reboot 177 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: his career. You know, now, that's all up right there, 178 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: million verses one meal, I'm sorry so to anyway. And 179 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: the other part of this is it doesn't for us. 180 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: Right now, as we are in day number fifty seven 181 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: of this lockdown, it seems like the days are going 182 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: very slow. But really, when you look at the next 183 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: six months or whatever, this calendar is going to go 184 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: real fast in the NFL, and before you know it, Andy, 185 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: we're going to be through this next season and Andy 186 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: Dalton is going to be out there as a free 187 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: agent and be able to play in the market. He 188 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: I mean, the way that's one way he can look 189 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: at it is, Hey, he's back home. He gets to 190 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: play with the with the Cowboys, even if he doesn't 191 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: touch the field whatever. Then he's got six months to 192 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: learn under Mike McCarthy and these other guys. How about 193 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: the other thing with this where he rejoins now with 194 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: a coaching staff going back to his college days, Wow, 195 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: he played against it. He split Boise State when he 196 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: was at TCU. Kellen Moore was a quarterback, beat him, 197 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: I think in the point set of Bowl, lost to 198 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: him in the Fiesta Bowl. And then Scott Tolzine is 199 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: also on this Cowboys coaching staff. He was the quarterback 200 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: at Wisconsin when TCU played Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl 201 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: and had they're perfect thirteen and oh seasons. That's pretty interesting. No, absolutely, 202 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: And and and the thing Everson is, you know, and 203 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: I've always said this about guys that are backup quarterbacks. 204 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: The best thing for a backup quarterback is to never 205 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: have to play, because then you don't find out why 206 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: they're a backup quarterback. Right. But in his case, he's 207 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: only thirty two, he's played nine years, and he's his 208 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: numbers are pretty darn good if you take out this 209 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: past season when Cincinnati obviously was just horrible and it 210 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: wasn't just a quarterback play. But we're talking about a 211 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: guy that the first five years of his career he 212 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: led the Bengals. Then, let me repeat that, the Bengals 213 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: to five Bengals went to five straight playoffs and he 214 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: started as a rookie. Now the fifth year he led them. Unfortunately, 215 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, that might have been a big season for Cincinnati. 216 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: They won the first seven games. They were sitting there 217 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: at ten and two going into Game thirteen, and in 218 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: the first quarter he broke his thumb and AJ McCarron 219 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: had to take over for the Bengals. They lost that game. 220 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: They ended up going two and two over the final 221 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: four and Dalton didn't play anymore and in the playoffs. 222 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: In the playoff game the first round, McCarron had to 223 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: start and they got beat by Pittsburgh eighteen sixteen, but 224 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: had Dalton been able to finish that season, who knows 225 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: where Cincinnati might have gone. So he's been pretty good. 226 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: He's the second best quarterback in the history of the 227 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, and the only one that was better was 228 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: Ken Anderson. And Ken Anderson played sixteen season, but he 229 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: won more games, didn't Boomer. He threw WHOA, that's saying 230 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot. That is a lot say as many games 231 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: as Boomer did. Boomer pat some more game than he did. Interesting, 232 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: and speaking of AJ, he didn't have a j Green 233 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: this past season, and we've seen around here what it's 234 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: like for a quarterback when you don't have a number 235 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: one receiver. Yeah, I mean, I have to say I 236 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: had no idea that he was only thirty two years old. 237 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: I guess you're starting as a rookie. Just tend to 238 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: think that the players older than what they really are 239 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: at that point because they started off so early in 240 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: their careers. At thirty two years old. He could really 241 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: offer a lot of advice to that. I mean, let's 242 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: be real. Kellen is a great guy, but it's always 243 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: good to have somebody there that's had more experience than 244 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: you doing certain situations and you can hopefully lean on 245 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: that guy. I don't know how much Dat was leaning 246 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: on Tony Romo when Dak took over for Romo his 247 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: first year starting, but hopefully that kind of helped Dak's 248 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: progression early on because he had a great first season. Maybe, 249 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Andy Dalton can do that for Dak 250 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: this year to where when you get those those those 251 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: away games where he doesn't have a good game going 252 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: against one of the better defenses. We know how badly 253 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: he was in regards to play against really good defenses. 254 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: So maybe a guy like Dalton can help him through 255 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: some bad stretches, because let's let's face it, guy, he's 256 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: gonna have some bad stretches like any quarterback, you know. 257 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: And and along those lines, listening to Gary Patterson, his 258 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: own coach at TCU, talk about him, you know, Andy 259 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: Dalton is the type player that's he's a team guy. 260 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna do what he can to help Dak Prescott. 261 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: He understands what his role is right now. And Dak 262 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: talks a lot about the effect that Mark Sinzez had 263 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: on him early in his career here in Dallas when 264 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: he was the backup quarterback here. I think it's important, 265 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: even for Dak now going into his fifth year, to 266 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: have a guy as they've build a relationship here, to 267 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: have a guy that he trusts, who can point out 268 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: some things on the sideline as the game's going along, 269 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: even where he might not have the same kind of 270 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: access to coaches in those situations. That's right, that's good 271 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: to have a I mean, think about it. Romo had 272 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Brad Johnson in his ear as a young starting quarterback. 273 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: Then he had John Kittner Kyle Orton, so he for 274 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: several of those first seven eight years in the league 275 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: he had a veteran cornerback behind him, and then these 276 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: past couple of years, Dak was kind of the guy. 277 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think if he doesn't play, just having 278 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: his voice there to go along with Mike McCarthy and 279 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and Tolsine and nuss Meyer, that's just the 280 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: plus I think. And again, it only cost them nine 281 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars more against the cap than it would 282 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: have if they kept Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush has restricted 283 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: free agency contract was two point one million, uh and 284 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: this guy's playing for three So how many TCU players 285 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: as they give us, guys, what's that we have this 286 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: year all of a sudden, what's going on? Three for sure? 287 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: And I know too. You got the two yeah, the agents, Yeah, 288 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: the two rookie free agents Siwo or Alana Lua you 289 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: got it baby and Darius Jed Anderson. A lot of 290 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: people are thinking that either one of those guys, you 291 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: have a real shot of making this team. Cowboys haven't 292 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: opening as a third running back on this team. And 293 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: Alana Lua, he's gonna be challenging. Jamazlawali is at fullback type, 294 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: although he's not a he didn't play fullback in college, 295 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: but you look at his dimensions and he could fill 296 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: that role. Be sort of an h back caught like 297 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: sixty passes out of the backfield at TCU. I really 298 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: like the way he runs the ball between the tackles. 299 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Two and so it's gonna be interesting. There's just talk 300 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: with Will McClay last week about him. There's just you know, 301 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: there's not very many roster spots for especially for a 302 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: fullback type, and so there's this competition there and uh, 303 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: if he but I do believe that if he doesn't 304 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: make the team, that he could be a prime candidate 305 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: for the practice squad. Uh. And then uh, you know. 306 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: The other guy of the undrafted guys that will mention 307 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: to me that he liked a lot was the South 308 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: Carolina running back Rico Dowdle or Dowdale. I'm not sure 309 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: how you pronounce his name, but we're going to learn 310 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: how to pronounce it pretty quickly because there will be 311 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: a season, and Everson, there will be a preseason. In fact, 312 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: oh wad on, I don't know when's this preseason schedule 313 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: coming out, So Bill to just to go on what 314 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: you just said about U about the running back, I mean, 315 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: they have room for a third running back if they 316 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: want on the fifty five man roster. Yeah they need one, Yeah, 317 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: they need need one. And from a fullback standpoint, I 318 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: didn't know much about this dude until I saw his 319 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: highlights and the way he runs. I can tell he's 320 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: got the mindset to be a fullback right because he 321 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: does run pretty hard between the tackles and listening to 322 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: an interview with him, he sounds like he's a very 323 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: willing blocker and if he can catch the ball, who knows, 324 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: he just might challenge Olawally for that fullback spot. Keep 325 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: an eye this guy, and he's a smart guy too, 326 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: graduated in three and a half years from TC. That's 327 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I talk about 328 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: players like that. Guys. You have to get him an 329 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: open field. If he's going to play that h back, 330 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: you're getting the ball at the right time. He's gonna 331 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: look for somebody to run over in the secondary. That 332 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: might be a nice transition to use him in specialty situations, 333 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: goal line, short yardage and be able to open up 334 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: the game and give you some options versus run and pat. 335 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: That would be pretty good. Let me ask Chris Beam, 336 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: our producer. We need to take a break here. 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Let's talk cam irving as Mickey, 382 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys replace one cam with another cam, and that 383 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: you were never very high on cam fleming. What have 384 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: you researched on cam irving? Yeah, I was gonna say, 385 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: hopefully this cam is better than the previous camp, although 386 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, the Giants signed them for four million dollars. 387 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of that is incentive stuff, 388 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, at least this guy has played 389 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: games in the league, has started He started forty two 390 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: games between Cleveland, where he was a first round draft choice, 391 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: and then he got traded to Kansas City. He started 392 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: twenty five games for the Chiefs. And the other thing 393 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: about him is he's played all three spots on the 394 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: offensive line in the NFL. He's played he's played guard, 395 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: he's played center, he's played tackle. And you know, in 396 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen he started thirteen or fourteen games for Kansas City. 397 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: So again and in his career twenty eight hundred snaps. 398 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: So I like the fact that, you know, even though 399 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City declined picking up his fifth year option, he 400 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: started those games at guard. So maybe what if he 401 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: had a backup swing tackle who was also could service 402 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: your backup two. That's a pretty good deal there. So 403 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: I can't say I've watched him play. You know, let's 404 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: let's let's keep giving it. Let's keep giving it up, guys, 405 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: Let's keep giving it up With Will McClay man. This 406 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: guy's out there hustling. I think this, this this pandemic 407 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: is the best thing that happened to him. And I'm 408 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: hoping I'm saying that. I'm saying that jokingly, but he 409 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: is on top of it. I mean, you've got guys 410 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: out there that he's picking up, and these are quality individuals. 411 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: I don't know about the Album Smith move, that was 412 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: something that baffled me a little bit, but when you 413 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: look at the other moves he's made from the draft 414 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: on down to these free agents, and not just the 415 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, but those free agents, those veteran free 416 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: agents out out there. To me, I think this is 417 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: a big time quality move. You can get back, you 418 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: can get security in almost every position on the offensive line. Well. 419 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: And it was a necessary move for this team too. 420 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean they they had to have a veteran guy 421 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: who's a swing tack. Well, yeah, Brandon Knight as a 422 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: rookie started one game at right tackle last year, but 423 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: they had to And there's been talk about, Okay, you 424 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: could have Connor Williams go out and play tackle or 425 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: whatever and start training him out there, but because he 426 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: played left tackle at Texas, but they needed a guy 427 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: with experience in this league to back up both tackle 428 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: spots and Mickey. When you look at Cam Irving last year, 429 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: he actually started eight games at left tackle. Last year, 430 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: Eric Fisher went down on the fifth play of the 431 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: second game of the season and Irving came in and 432 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: filled that void for half a season before Eric Fisher 433 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: got back and he and Eric Fisher was able to 434 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: play the last half of the season and then on 435 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: through the Super Bowl for Kansas City. So if you 436 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: can have somebody like that and they had a pretty 437 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: good season in Kansas yeah right, yeah, yeah, and again 438 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: and it's a it's another one of those one year 439 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of proven deals. You know, if you get the plane, 440 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: maybe you get an opportunity to yourself if you don't 441 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: get to play. It's a one year deal. I'm assuming 442 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: it's very inexpensive. And that's the sort of thing I 443 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: think they need to look for at the defensive end 444 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: spot too now, because there's still a couple veteran guys 445 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: out there that you would recognize their names, and if 446 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: you can get them on kind of a one year 447 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: proven deal as insurance against Smith, Alden Smith or Randy 448 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: Gregory not being reinstated, you can't just assume that that's 449 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: going to happen. You can't just assume that Tyrone Crawford 450 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: comes back from two hip surgeries and he's the same 451 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford, And if he is, you still want a 452 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: better pass rusher over there for nickel downs at least, 453 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: so Crawford could hold it down against the run, for sure, 454 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: But you just need that guy coming off the edge. 455 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: And the only other guys you had out there are 456 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong and Jalen Jelks, and so you needed somebody 457 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: and you still need it. So I would imagine that's 458 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: that's the next move if if they can find somebody 459 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: to do what Dalton did and what Irving has done. 460 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to go back a little 461 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: bit to one of the unsigned h free agents. What 462 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: about this guy from I think it's James Madison Rondelle Carter. Yeah, 463 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: well you don't know about him SPACs. He look look 464 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, I heard good things about him, and 465 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: I heard they were really excited to get him, uh signed, 466 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: and some of the highlights I've seen, I don't sure 467 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: looks like a possibility, you know. And I didn't mention 468 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: an eye uh. The fifth round draft choice, and you 469 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: know this guy, here's another guy, and I talked about 470 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: all these things that just kind of happened for the Cowboys. Well, 471 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: this guy was one of the top collegiate defensive ends 472 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: and one of the best ever at the University of Utah, 473 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: and there he is in the in the fifth round 474 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: for him. So again, they just keep having these person 475 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: lucky deals just landed their laps and you know that 476 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: might be another one. We'll see, you know. And the 477 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: other thing as far as the defensive end spot goes 478 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: with these free agents, it's interesting because they did it 479 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: with Dalton, giving him some money upfront. With the environment 480 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: that we're in right now. I haven't seen the details 481 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: on cam Irving, but there probably was bonus money paid 482 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: in advance. Some of these guys, these defensive ends that 483 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: you're talking about, the veteran guys that are out there 484 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: in free agency right now, who in other years might 485 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: wait until you get closer to the season at this 486 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: point and you know you might have a need in 487 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: training camp, someone blows out a knee or whatever, and 488 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: you'll wait till the end of training camp to sign 489 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: with a team, thinking because you don't have offers right now. 490 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: But a team like the Cowboys who have some money 491 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: to spend, you know, who have an owner willing to 492 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: spend some upfront money. There one these free agents. You 493 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: can get a jump on some of these other teams 494 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: by going ahead and giving them some upfront money right 495 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: now and where they might sign with you, rather than 496 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: waiting because they aren't sure whether there's going to be 497 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: a season or not. Kind of the same mindset that 498 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: maybe Dalton and Irvingham. Yeah, I signed for a couple 499 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and you could you could send your 500 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: check from the government back saying I don't need that. Hey, 501 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on my check. I need more people 502 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: to send them back. But you know, I remember when 503 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: I left the Cowboys, Jimmy and I. Of course we 504 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: didn't get along, and that that was all very publicized. 505 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: But one thing that I was always appreciative of Jimmy, 506 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: and I'm sure he was appreciative as well. He was thinking, 507 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: you need to get the hell, get the hell out 508 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: of here right now. I want you going immediately. I 509 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: want you out of my head. And that was the 510 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: same way I was thinking, I want to go ahead 511 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: and get away from this situation so that I can 512 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: embed myself quickly into another organization's plans for the off season. 513 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I did not want until I didn't want to wait 514 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: until the off season was almost over before I decided 515 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: to sign. I wanted to make sure I got out there, 516 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: I got away from where I was, and really start 517 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: a good relationship early on with the New York Giants 518 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: at the time. So to me, I did not want 519 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: to wait, and I wasn't comfortable. I would not have 520 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: been comfortable with waiting later on in the off season. 521 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, if you think about it, the same thing 522 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: that happened to Dalton sort of happened to Troy Aikman 523 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: in two thousand and one because he had a if 524 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, a seven million dollar roster bonus coming 525 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: at some point in March, and you know, Jerry he 526 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to have or maybe it was March, maybe 527 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: it was later on, and Jerry was hoping to release 528 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: him after June one that way they could spread out 529 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: the dead money from his signing bonus, and Troy wanted 530 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: to get released right away because he thought he had 531 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: an opportunity for another job, specifically North Turner. I think 532 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator in San Diego, and he was 533 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: looking at hire a backup quarterback. I can get that job, 534 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: and he didn't get released. And by time they finally 535 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: came together and got released, they had the Chargers had 536 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: signed Doug Flutie and that job was gone. And then 537 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: I think it was like a month later he decided 538 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: to retire. But he had the same idea that Everson 539 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: was talking about. Let me get out there quick now 540 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: and then find me a new spot before all the 541 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: spots are taken. That's right, Hey, Everson mentioned Jimmy Johnson. 542 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: Of course, Jimmy Johnson replaced Tom Landry as head coach 543 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. He also replaced Don Shula's head coach 544 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: of the Miami Dolphins, and of course Don Shula passed 545 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: away this week at the age of ninety. Ever since, 546 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: you got some memories of Don Shula, Yeah, I do. 547 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: I just remember balls just flying over my head. There 548 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: was a lot of them. I think both receivers took 549 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: a chunk out of my butt during that ball game. 550 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: Duri Ol' Harris. I couldn't remember the other guy's name, 551 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: the Italian guy wide receiver. He was heck of a player. 552 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: Both of those guys. Man. I started off early with 553 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: a couple of picks and at the end of the 554 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: game I had to finally get one. And that was 555 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: one of the more exciting games I think the Cowboys 556 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: have ever been in with the Miami Dolphins. And that's 557 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: including what was that bill super Bowl eleven. That was 558 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: that Super Bowl twelve when the Cowboys and the Dolphins played. Well, 559 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: there had been earlier. There was in the seventy one 560 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: season and the Cowboy Who's beat the Dolphins twenty four 561 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: to three in the Super Bowl? Yeah? Yeah, and the Dolphins. 562 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: Then after that the Dolphins ended up going seventeen and old. 563 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: But that next year, if I'm not mistaken, so you know, 564 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: back then you had the two great coaches going at it, 565 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: and somehow I became the focus of this dog one 566 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: bone game because they kept they just kept coming at 567 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: me and coming at me. And that's one thing about Shula. 568 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: Shola is a guy that will attack your weakness no 569 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 1: matter what. I don't care how many times he's gonna 570 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: come at you, He's gonna keep coming at you until 571 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: you stop him. I stopped him early on in the game. 572 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: They kept coming at me. We were going back and forth. 573 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: Tony dors said was bawling. Our wide receivers were doing 574 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: a good job. And at the end of the game, 575 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: Ron Springs had put us ahead with an amazing touchdown catch. Afterwards, 576 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: they drove right back down over my head once again, 577 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: drove right back down with a couple of big plays, 578 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: and they were in field goal range. Facts. If you recall, 579 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: I thought von Shalman, I thought he. I thought they 580 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: were in field goal range before they decided to go 581 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: back to the whale one too many times. And he 582 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: came at me. Uh, if I'm not mistaken, d d 583 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: Lewis or Bob Bruni made him throw the quick slant 584 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: pass a little high, and that's all the break that 585 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: I needed and came right into my arms and ended 586 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: up sealing the ball game. Well, but that's yeah. Emerson 587 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: ended up intercepting the ball at the six yard line. 588 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: They and the Cowboys ended up winning twenty eight twenty seven. 589 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, all was needed to kick a field. Yeah, 590 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: he got greedy. You know what he was worried about 591 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: is they couldn't stop Danny White throwing to Tony Hill 592 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: and Drew Pearson. Uh. And the amazing thing was, is 593 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, we always talked about the comebacks that Roger produced. 594 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: With five minutes to go in the game, the Cowboys 595 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: fell behind twenty seven fourteen yep, and they came down 596 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: and they scored to make it twenty seven twenty one. 597 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: And then Dennis Thurman intercepted a pass and in the 598 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: next play White throws the touchdown to Springs. They stopped 599 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The Cowboys get the ball back and they 600 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: didn't do anything, and here they came again, and they 601 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: had to get the interception to be able to preserve. 602 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: The Cowboys ended up intercepting Woodley five times, five times. 603 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: If anybody wants to be entertained, just go to YouTube 604 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: and call up nineteen eighty one Cowboys Dolphins, and I'd 605 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: guarantee you it was awfully entertaining. And Bill, it reminded 606 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: me of how fast that Tony Doorset was. Boy, he 607 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: would hit the hole and just glide through there. I 608 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: think may have been his best overall years. Nineteen eighty 609 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: one was a big year for Tony Dorset. So was 610 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: that Italian wide receiver Jimmy Cefalo. Jimmy Cephalo, thank you, 611 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: thank you, Jimmy Cefalo. That quick Italian boy, That quick 612 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Italian was out there kicking my butt there. We ended 613 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: up meeting each other a little bit later on, after 614 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: we retired. We talked about that game. I tell you 615 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: one more thing about shooting. You know, he loved his kids. 616 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: Dave Shoela came here, if he recalled, he was our 617 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator rights Fags and in nineteen eighty nine, and 618 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: god did he make it two years. He was just 619 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: that horrible. I'm sorry. Yes, Lawrence Taylor said that Shoela's 620 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: offense was so basic that he thought it was a trick. 621 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: You remember that interview after Giants game. He said it 622 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: was so simple, he thought it was a trick. So 623 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: I mentioned that on the Randy Galloway Show. And so 624 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: I think Shula told Dave. Shula told his dad, coach Don, 625 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: that Everson is down here talking about me bad on 626 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: the radio. And so schulad daddy Shula goes to Gary 627 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: Myers Spags. He goes to Gary Myers and goes, hey, 628 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: what's going on with this Emmerson guy? Why is he 629 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: talking about my son so bad? That's about two That's 630 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: about two memories of Don Shula. Man. He never wanted 631 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: to say my name, right, he never went to what 632 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: reminded me, you know, ninety years old, he had the 633 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: most wins in National Football League. Amazing, amazing the fact 634 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: that you know, let's let's remember they started off with 635 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Colts. Yes, and then after they lost to 636 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: the Jets in that Super Bowl, the next year, he 637 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: got traded to Miami. They gave up a first round 638 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,359 Speaker 1: pick for Don Shula. I had forgotten all about them 639 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 1: that tried. I do remember him being with the coach 640 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 1: he actually coached with them as well, right, yes, yes, both, yes, 641 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: absolutely and in fact, all right, he was hired as 642 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: and we need to go to break after this, but 643 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: he was hired in nineteen sixty three at age thirty 644 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 1: three as head coach of the Baltimore Colts. In thirty 645 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: three years as a head coach in the National Football League, 646 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: Don Shula had two losing seasons, two losing. Some mazing 647 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: in thirty three years. So some great memories there. 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Uh? 698 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: Not very much? Bill? Okay, how about you, Everson? Yeah, 699 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting out, guys. I'm sorry. I'm I do a 700 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: lot of jogging. I'm walking with my dog in the neighborhood. 701 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: My dog hides from me. Now. He doesn't want to go. 702 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: He every time I grabbed the leaves, he's like peeping 703 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: around the corner. Like I go left, he goes right. Yeah. 704 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: What kind of dog do you have? Ever since? Mutt? 705 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: That's what I have? Yea, I have a hide. You know, 706 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: I'm from the hood, Bill, I have mutts. We don't 707 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: really name them. We don't really know what they are. 708 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: We just get them, you know, they're just dogs. What's 709 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: his name? Morley after Bob? Okay, I've got two beagles 710 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: and they're about twelve years old. Now, Bo and Romo. See, 711 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: and you can tell you're not from the hood because 712 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: you know what they are. They're Beagles. I haven't no idea, 713 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, all right, Mickey, would you like to 714 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 1: tell the story about Dave Shula and Iowa State as 715 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: I could remember it, The Cowboys were getting ready to 716 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: play Cincinnati where Dave Shuel, I mean where Dave Shula 717 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: was the head coach, right, that's nineteen ninety four, Yeah, 718 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: ninety four. Switzer's the head coach of the Cowboys, and 719 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: he said something to the effect of, well, yeah, you 720 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: know what's did he say? It was like, it's it's 721 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,439 Speaker 1: kind of like we're going to play Iowa State. Yeah, 722 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: I think the Bengals were maybe winless, right, uh Dan, 723 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: it's about sixth week of the season something like that. 724 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember where it was in the season. And 725 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: in this press conference that week, Switzer said, ah, you 726 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: know this is and he didn't he really didn't mean 727 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: anything bad by you know Switzer and whatever enters his 728 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 1: enters his break to explain this before you. We just 729 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: have to remember Switzer didn't have a filter, okay, right, right? 730 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, uh, I think of some similarities with 731 00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: someone else, but I won't go out together, so Switzer's said, 732 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: So they say, yeah, you know this is you know 733 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: we we'd have these kind of games when I was 734 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: at OU. You know, you play Ioways State and you 735 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: got to get them ready to play. And uh so 736 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: the postgame handshake after the Cowboys barely squeaked out of 737 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: victory in Cincinnati. You'll call what Dave Shula said that 738 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: you call that handshake there, don't. I don't think it 739 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: was a headshake. It was kind of my head slap 740 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: right right, and he said something like take how's that 741 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: Frialwa State or something. They well, no, he said, you 742 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: can take that Ioways State and yeah, right, yeah, stick 743 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 1: it somewhere. So wait, wait, so no, the Cowboys won 744 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,760 Speaker 1: the game. No, the Cowboys. So he's bragging about almost 745 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: because they no, No, no, he was he was close. 746 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: The Cowboys had to come from behind to win. Yeah, 747 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,360 Speaker 1: but you're still lost. You still know. But he didn't 748 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: say it like Nicky said. He said it like, take 749 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: that Ioways State and stick it somewhere. Yeah they beat 750 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: him twenty twenty three, twenty all right, right, and I'm 751 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: guessing it was the last second, last minute field goal. Well, 752 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just glad they didn't talk about, you know, 753 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: the maturation of of of cows and bulls and all 754 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, because you know, uh, he had 755 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 1: a little he had a little uh quote about a 756 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: young man not really maturing. Yes, yes, yes, something about 757 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: something happening, something happened, something not something not descending yet, 758 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: something it hadn't descended yet, ain't between him and parcels. 759 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: The PC didn't enter their d And I have to 760 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: say it was great, by the way, can I can 761 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: I say this? You know you're looking at TCU, who 762 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: had a great draft day draft couple of days twenty twenty. Yeah, 763 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: and uh, just great athletes obviously some of the first 764 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: rounders and really notable drafts and notable teams. If you 765 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: have all those draft picks. What the hell happened to 766 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: you a season? Well, the quarterbacks. It goes to show 767 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: that quarterback position is very important, whether it's at the 768 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: NFL level, the college level, high school level, you name it. 769 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: And they were they were not good at the quarterback position. 770 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: They needed a backup obviously, right they went They went 771 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: five and seven, They went five and seven. Well, they 772 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 1: did struggle offensively, so dep uh and that that really 773 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,600 Speaker 1: hurt him. And that's the thing. J Jalen Rager, who 774 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: went to the Eagles first round draft pick, one of 775 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: those guys you're talking about, and that may be one 776 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: of the reasons the Eagles are so excited for Rager 777 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: is that he didn't have much at quarterback at TCU, 778 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: especially as last year there, and he still, you know, 779 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 1: he has that potential. The other guy, another guy you're 780 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: talking about, Jeff Gladney cornerback who was elate first and 781 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: then Ross Blacklock a defensive tackle to TCU. Yeah, they 782 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: they killed it come draft day, but I was wondering 783 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: the same thing. How'd they go five and seven? And 784 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: the coach is up there bragging like, hey, guys, that 785 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys out there, you know that 786 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: just let you know the talent we have here at TCU. 787 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: But yet with five and seven, so when you have 788 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: a defense that's still was in good shape, I really 789 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: thought they could have done a lot better than five 790 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,760 Speaker 1: and seven in the Big twelve. All right, Mickey, the draft, 791 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the schedule comes out tonight and in fact, 792 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com you're gonna get a little 793 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: sneak peek of it starting at six thirty tonight, gonna 794 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 1: get a jump start on the NFL network at seven o'clock. 795 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: So what intrigues you about this schedule? We can run 796 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: down outside of the NFC East, The Cowboys home games 797 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,400 Speaker 1: this year will be against Pittsburgh, Cleveland, San Francisco, Arizona, 798 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: and Atlanta. Road games at Baltimore, Cincinnati, the Rams, Seattle, 799 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: and Minnesota. So I'm wondering, if not not to mention 800 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: cancelations or postponements, but would the COVID thing have any 801 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: effect on the order of games, Like, do you do 802 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: you want to play as many of your division games 803 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 1: right away? Do you want to push them back in 804 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: case some of the early games get canceled. I'm just 805 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: wondering if any of that has affected the order of 806 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,839 Speaker 1: some of these games early in the season. The one 807 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: the thing that I worry about is the different governing 808 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: states and how they will treat the season itself. You know, 809 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: the even different cities like Los Angeles right now, they're 810 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: not trying to play any games. New Orleans, the Saints, 811 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: you know, they're not trying to have any type of 812 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: big gatherings because of the hot spot that they were in, 813 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: especially last month. What I mean, how can they have 814 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: one governing response because it seems like each city has 815 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 1: different rules versus another city. I think that's what That's 816 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: what worries me about going from state to state and 817 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: city to city, those road games might be a little 818 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: tricky in regards to what the regulations might be in 819 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: regards to COVID. Well, I think it's going to be 820 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,919 Speaker 1: ended up being based on what happens nationally, because as 821 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: they've talked about even starting the possibility of opening up 822 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 1: facilities here in the next couple of weeks, it has 823 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: to be a national thing. It can't be state to 824 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: state like well, Texas they don't care. Anybody can go 825 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: out and do what they want. Let the Cowboys practice 826 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: well in New Jersey, they're probably not letting the Giants 827 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: and the Jets. So to make it equitable, it's got 828 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: to be league wide. And I think that if the 829 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: season starts on time, it'll be league wide. The other 830 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 1: thing I was wondering is you know, you do you 831 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: want to you know push as many of the say 832 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,240 Speaker 1: the Chargers and Rams and forty nine ers home games 833 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: back further and make them go on the road, so 834 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: teams don't have to go into California, or the same thing, 835 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 1: teams don't have to go into New Jersey that early 836 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: in the season if it starts on time. That's what 837 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: I was kind of wondering about. If any of that 838 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: affects the orders of the games. I think basically, once 839 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 1: they're ready to go, they're going to be ready to go. 840 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: But I do think that they might. They may look 841 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: at it that way right now as they make out 842 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: the schedule that if you push back, especially the New 843 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: York you know, the two New York teams, you got 844 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: the same thing going on throughout the northeast, really Massachusetts, Um, Buffalo, whatever, 845 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 1: whether you might start them on the road. But I 846 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: think to answer you the first part of your question, 847 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: do you play more division games early in anticipation? What 848 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 1: if you had a disruption of the season. I think 849 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: if you had, as a second wave of this, a 850 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 1: disruption of the season, the chances of resuming the season 851 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: are so remote that just look a look at what's 852 00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: going on with the NBA right now. I mean in 853 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 1: the NHL where it ended March fifteenth, and here we 854 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: are May seventh, and we have no idea whether they're 855 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,959 Speaker 1: going to be able. I mean, it doesn't look good 856 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to resume. They're although 857 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 1: they're holding out hope. So I think I think if 858 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: there's as eruption in the season in any way, it's 859 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,799 Speaker 1: going to be a delayed start of the season. More 860 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: so than you know, something happens in November. I think 861 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: something happens in November, it's probably crashed. You know that 862 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: it's not going to resume at any point. And maybe 863 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,600 Speaker 1: that's the thing I think everyone needs to be ready for. 864 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 1: A could be a major shift in when we play 865 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, fotball, maybe you know, football maybe moved to 866 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: the winter, you know, instead of the fall. You know, 867 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,400 Speaker 1: baseball could be moved further down the line, maybe with 868 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: an abbreviated season, and then try to catch up again 869 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. I'm wide open. I'm sure that 870 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: the NFL is as well in regards to what the 871 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,600 Speaker 1: options might be. It would also be interesting to see, how, 872 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 1: you know, if they do play games, so they're gonna 873 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:54,520 Speaker 1: put seventy and ninety thousand people in the stadium, they're 874 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna restrict it I'm gonna be mailed. I'm gonna be 875 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: mailing in my car. Boy cut out. I'm just telling 876 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,360 Speaker 1: you right now, you ain't showing up. I've already gotten mine. 877 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,840 Speaker 1: I've already gotten mine. Yeah, it's already cut out. And 878 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, of us two covering games, 879 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: you know you could just say, okay, cover it off 880 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 1: a TV. You ain't going to games, you ain't traveling 881 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: to games. Um, yeah, that's I mean, there's a lot 882 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: of stuff still up in the air. Again, they are 883 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 1: talking about phasing in opening the facilities, letting a few 884 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: people in the facilities. I would imagine it would be 885 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 1: the coaches, and then at some point trying to get 886 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: the players in there. I'm sure we're the last ones 887 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: in the door, right but I do think that they 888 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: have a window there where ye are normally they As 889 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: it stands right now, the Cowboys would be reporting around 890 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: July twenty second or so, since they're in the Hall 891 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 1: of Fame game on August seventh or whatever that date is. 892 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,439 Speaker 1: I mean, you push it back. Let's say training camp 893 00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: started in September, the regular season starts in October. Then 894 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,400 Speaker 1: you're pushing back to where the Super Bowl would be 895 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: played March or whenever. Uh, so they've got a window 896 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: where you can you can slide it back a couple 897 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: of months and still play through the winter months. And 898 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 1: like you say, you could have, like I said, you 899 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 1: could have, you can abbreviate the schedule, as you guys 900 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: were saying earlier, let's just get the district the division 901 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: games out of the way. And Uh, if I don't know, 902 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 1: can they just go on the whim? Can they say, Okay, 903 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna start off divisional games and then schedule more 904 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: during the season stacks? Yeah, I don't know, going to 905 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: be the interesting thing there? Yeah? Great, Bill. And since 906 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: we're we're talking about the future, I ran across this 907 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: on uh NFL dot com. Uh And I don't know 908 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: how they projected this because it's too hard to figure 909 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: out when it's real. But they ended up projecting the 910 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: compensatory picks for twenty twenty one draft. And the way 911 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: they figured it out and the equation takes into so 912 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:10,399 Speaker 1: many factors on how many guys you lost, how many 913 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: guys you played replaced, how much guys got paid, how 914 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: much you paid your guys to bring them in. But 915 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: whoever did it had the Cowboys coming up with the 916 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 1: most compensatory picks for twenty twenty one. He was saying, 917 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: or you know whoever figured it out the computer, that 918 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys would get four compensatory picks, one each and 919 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth round. So that would 920 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: be a windfall, and it kind of makes the trade 921 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: up for be it as giving up your fifth round 922 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: pick next year insignificant if you get all those picks 923 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,879 Speaker 1: ahead of time. So the Cowboys had the most with four, 924 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: There was a couple of teams with three, and then 925 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,359 Speaker 1: the majority of the teams were projected to get two. 926 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 1: Speaking of the center ty Or bad As from Wisconsiner, 927 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: they traded up to take the last pick of the 928 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: fourth round. Who do you think is going to be 929 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 1: the starting center for this team when the season does start? Oh, 930 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: I got a feeling it might be Tyler Biades. And 931 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: if it's not in game one or two, I bet 932 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: by halfway through the season he's the starting center. I 933 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,120 Speaker 1: just think they liked the idea of having Joe Looney 934 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: the backup center guard and if this guy and look 935 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 1: this guy played guard lad I mean center last year. 936 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: He actually called line shifts. He actually had to call 937 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: out blitzes. You know, no one on the team right 938 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: now before he was drafted had played center in the 939 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: NFL last year, because when Looney play, or at least started, 940 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: he started at guard the one game. So I like 941 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: the fact that this guy had his hand on the 942 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 1: ball last year and he's got he's got the pedigree 943 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, yeah, the school he comes from 944 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: and been known for offensive lineman. To me, it's no brainer. 945 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: If he doesn't come in and make an immediate impact, 946 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: I'd be extremely surprised. Fact, I agree that assuming he's 947 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,160 Speaker 1: healthy and he's head some injury issues the last couple 948 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: of years and coming off a shoulder surgery this off season. 949 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: But I think that they're looking at it that Looney 950 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: and Biadas are the center, are at the center position, 951 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: and if Biadas is ready, they go with him. If not, 952 00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: then Looney's ready. Looney starts to start the year and beyond, 953 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, and the only reason he wouldn't be ready, 954 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: I think is because he doesn't have the off season 955 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: or an injury. And then you got Williams and McGovern 956 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: battling it out for the left guard spot. And the 957 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,520 Speaker 1: other part of this, Mickey, when you talk about their needs, 958 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: they really haven't replaced Xavier sue a Philo who left 959 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: in free agency, is a veteran inside gay. Well that's 960 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,520 Speaker 1: going to have to be the loser of the begovering. 961 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: William Battle would be the backup guard, I would think, right. 962 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: But but but still, even from an inventory standpoint, you'd 963 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: like to have another veteran guy in there in the mix. Anyway. Now, 964 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: maybe they're looking at this irving guy as that's what 965 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Yeah, that's why McClay is the man. 966 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: That's why will McClay is the man. And if he'said 967 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 1: about it, and go back to Everson's nineteen eighty nine season, 968 00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys drafted Mark Stepnowski in the third round. If 969 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Rafferty started the season in about halfway 970 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: to two thirds through the season. Stepnowski took over because 971 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: they knew he was going to be the future center. 972 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,439 Speaker 1: So ain't going anywhere in this one in fifteen season, right, 973 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: so might as well get him in there and get 974 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: him seasoned for nineteen ninety sore you thinking, what are 975 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: you thinking, old Chand like Rafferty was like, I don't 976 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: think he put up much of a fight. He's like, 977 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, I have night. Well, you know, the 978 00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: safe thing happened to Ed two tall Joe is right 979 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: when they wanted to start Tony Tilbert at the end 980 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: of the season. Yea, and everybody, the media, I said, everybody, 981 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: US media people made a big deal of it because 982 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: it was gonna break Ed's consecutive start streak. Right, So 983 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 1: with Jimmy figured out, oh okay, this all started, and 984 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I think it was either the second to the last 985 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: game of the season. They're the last game and and 986 01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy said, okay, I'll start him, let him play two 987 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: series and I'll get ever been there, right, And the 988 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: funny thing was Ed was like, what's the big deal? 989 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: He goes, I'm not coming back here next year. It 990 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But it mattered to us media guys. All right, 991 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,320 Speaker 1: we I think we've lost ever since and Mickey, we're 992 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: out of time on this no of mix shots. A reminder, 993 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,439 Speaker 1: sixth thirty, this evening, six thirty, this evening right here, 994 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 1: it's the schedule show. And that's when you will find 995 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 1: out that the Cowboys are hosting the New York Giants. 996 01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: The regulars. Is that where you're putting your money bill. 997 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: It's going to be okay. That's my only prediction. The 998 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys host the Giants in the season opener. We'll talk 999 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: at you again next week here on Mick Shots. 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