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Speaker 1: Greetings, Welcome inside hour two The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 1: my bes friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 3: I'm anna ask man true Indiana.

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Speaker 1: Lead's Oklahoma City right now? Ninety five ninety one, still

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Speaker 1: six minutes.

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Speaker 3: To go in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: And look, we spent a lot of time last hour

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Speaker 1: talking about the Pacers and what they're doing, and you know,

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Speaker 1: look it it's really been something to watch. But I

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Speaker 1: gotta say this for Oklahoma City. Right when we started

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Speaker 1: the show, I didn't like the way the game was

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Speaker 1: going for the Thunder because they just didn't seem like

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Speaker 1: they were they were all on the same page. They

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Speaker 1: felt like they were struggling and the Pacers were just

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Speaker 1: waiting to really kick it up a notch. And I said,

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Speaker 1: the way they're staying in this game. The only way

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Speaker 1: the Thunder in this game is if suddenly Sga just

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Speaker 1: I'm putting the team on my back and this is

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Speaker 1: how we're gonna win, and I'm gonna score forty points

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Speaker 1: and they're somehow in it. It's a four point game.

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Speaker 1: Despite the fact that Sga is having a horrendous game,

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Speaker 1: a horrendous game, he has been a ball stopper for

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Speaker 1: the most for most of the second half. All this

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Speaker 1: isole ball that he's playing. He's nine out of twenty

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Speaker 1: one from the floor. He's got twenty points on twenty

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Speaker 1: one shots, right, Like, that's that's not gonna do it, man,

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Speaker 1: that that doesn't get it done. He's not getting anybody involved.

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Speaker 1: He's got zero assists on the game. He's been to

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Speaker 1: the free throw line twice. Like he is just he is.

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Speaker 1: He is ball stopping for the Thunder, and the Pacers

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Speaker 1: are basically saying, hey, okay, great, thanks but and I thought, okay,

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Speaker 1: I tell you this, how are the Thunder staying in

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Speaker 1: this because Alex Caruso is Benedict Mathern off the bench

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Speaker 1: with twenty and Jalen Williams has twenty five, including a

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Speaker 1: perfect eleven for eleven from the free throw line. This

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Speaker 1: game makes no sense now I thought it just a

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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes go buy Mike Carbon in the game makes

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Speaker 1: no sense.

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Speaker 4: Get good balance with Williams and Caruso and home girns

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Speaker 4: at fourteen and twelve. Still not moving the ball very well.

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Speaker 4: Like we talked about earlier in the show, when you

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Speaker 4: look at the assists against the field goals made you know,

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Speaker 4: going back to your ball stopping eight assists on thirty

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Speaker 4: two makes there's got to be some stat to go

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Speaker 4: through that. I don't know who the Sarah Langs of

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Speaker 4: the NBA stats people are, but that just seems kind

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Speaker 4: of odd to me. They're just two of sixteen from

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Speaker 4: three point range are the Thunder. Yet we're still talking

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Speaker 4: about a game in the balance, So what's curious. Also

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Speaker 4: for Indiana tonight, Aliburton shot his first free throws of

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Speaker 4: the series, so he finally got that into the scoring column.

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Speaker 4: But giving you a little bit of balance as he

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Speaker 4: does on what he's up to fourteen points, seven assists,

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Speaker 4: so giving you that and you've got five guys in

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Speaker 4: double figures for the Pacers. But yeah, Thunder had been

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Speaker 4: able to hang around. It ain't clean. It ain't pretty.

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Speaker 4: The referees making a nuisance of themselves with some of

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Speaker 4: their calls, and certainly the historyonics they're given. Frank Dreben

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a run with some of the

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Speaker 4: theatrics on falls at the baseline.

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Speaker 1: Now, now that was a great point you maybe, but

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a very important question. Do

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Speaker 1: you think we get the Enrico Palazzo in the Liam

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Speaker 1: Neeson remake that's coming out soon?

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Speaker 4: We got to add something similar, don't we. Okay, And

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Speaker 4: I've seen that commercial a couple of times tonight, A

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Speaker 4: nice reminder that that's there for you because the other

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Speaker 4: day we did talk about all of those people on

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Speaker 4: the panel. Well we got to Dick Enberg and Jim Palmer,

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Speaker 4: Joyce brother Kirsty Batimer and did them all. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh so we'll keep you updated here again. Just over

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Speaker 1: just under five minutes left to go. It's a one

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Speaker 1: point game, Indiana leading Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 4: SGA is playing terribly and it's it's a one point game.

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Speaker 4: They're beating the hell out of him too. I mean

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Speaker 4: that can't be understated. Like you know who he's He's

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Speaker 4: looked at the officials. If you had enough to added

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Speaker 4: up the stare time stared down time. See I gave

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Speaker 4: away the joke stared down time from SGA. It might

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Speaker 4: be longer than the guy rolling down the stairs and

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Speaker 4: Friday the Thirteenth, Part two.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, last night we proved that basically I could be

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Speaker 1: the GM of the Knicks, and you can pay me

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Speaker 1: a lot less money than you're paying Leon Rose and

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Speaker 1: everybody else to run things right, because I told you, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if you if I could have called James Dole and said, hey,

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Speaker 1: fifty give me pay me fifty grand, and and I'll

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Speaker 1: say an hour, even though I only need three minutes,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you who to go talk to to be

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Speaker 1: the nixt head coach.

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Speaker 3: Right, Who did I say? Mike Right? First guy?

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Speaker 1: I said when when they fired Tibbs. As Mike Brown's

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Speaker 1: the guy, the offensive system, the defensive system. He's coached

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Speaker 1: big markets, he's coach big superstars. He's he's basically done

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Speaker 1: everything that Jason Kidd has done. Right, He's done everything

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd has done. Mike Brown is your guy, right,

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown is the guy. And we found out last night, Hey,

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Speaker 1: potentially the Knicks should be talking to Mike Brown Okay, great,

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Speaker 1: then you said, hey, remember on that first night, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I said, Mike Brown, you said, Taylor Jenkins, right, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Taylor Jenkins, you gotta go get him, right, He's got

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Speaker 1: to be the guy. You gotta go talk to him, right, Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: uh shams. Trania puts this out a little bit less

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Speaker 1: than an hour ago. Next week, the New York Knicks

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Speaker 1: are planning to meet with Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown

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Speaker 1: for their head coaching job together. These are yes, listen,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to talk to you guys separately. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you guys can tag team this and like coach.

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Speaker 4: You got offense, go and and now switch Now we

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Speaker 4: switch rolls right like it's an improv game.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna do yes. End Okay, yes end.

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Speaker 1: I want to trade Karl Anthony Towns Okay, Taylor j Yes,

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Speaker 1: And I want to trade Oganno Noby Okay, back to you,

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and who's Ogano Noby? Oh you stopped it there?

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Speaker 1: More could come, but these are the first formal interviews

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Speaker 1: for the Knicks vacancy. So now we know we could

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Speaker 1: be running the Knicks. And they listen to the show

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Speaker 1: because after last night, hey today. Hey, look we're talking

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Speaker 1: to Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins.

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Speaker 4: Likes a lot of good for society. We program a

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Speaker 4: lot of shows and writers. The aggregators love us. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we might be the source of all of those AI

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Speaker 4: powered Yahoo Sports articles. Oh yes, we're running the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: Come on, running the Knicks from three thousand miles away

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Speaker 1: working on it, not nearly as much because really they

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Speaker 1: fire TIBs. Okay, who do you want? All in the

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Speaker 1: No Mike Brown, Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins, Right? I like

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Speaker 1: Sam Cassell, who doesn't than he's gonna get any interviews

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Speaker 1: because he's always up and coming, but he's never on

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, that's fine, But like.

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Speaker 1: These are these are the guys, right, these are the

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Speaker 1: guys you should have been talking to first, or way

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Speaker 1: to reach out to, because this ridiculous. Let's go out

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Speaker 1: and ask permission and the guys you should ask if

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Speaker 1: you're being told though, why not ask Spolster?

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Speaker 3: Why not ask the.

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Speaker 1: Warriors for Steve Kerr, What's what are they gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you anything worse?

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Speaker 3: You've been told so far? When you reached out to

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Speaker 3: the Hawks and he told you know, and the bulls

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, it's embarrassing the.

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Speaker 3: Excellent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like they went from a destination to now

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Speaker 1: you really don't know what how you do it?

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Speaker 3: Now everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I see, you don't know what you're doing, Like

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins should clearly have been at

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Speaker 1: the top of the list, Like if you talk to

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Speaker 1: Brown and Jenkins and Mike Malone, even though hiring Malone

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Speaker 1: is kind of like getting TIBs again, so that's kind

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Speaker 1: of weird. And the fact that he was just fired

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Speaker 1: by a team and that because he lost the team. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not my uh, not my first choice to jump in

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Speaker 1: and I want to I want to get in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, same guy, just a little louder at the microphone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you need something a little bit. You need to

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Speaker 1: make sure you change, you change the energy and right.

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Speaker 1: And this is why teams always go from a disciplinarian

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Speaker 1: a disciplinarian because eventually each of their messages wear thin, right,

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Speaker 1: And it wore thin with TIBs, and Tibbs had to

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Speaker 1: like there's there's no doubt in my mind, the Knicks

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Speaker 1: had to let TIBs go, right, the players didn't want

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Speaker 1: to play for him anymore. Clearly they had had gone

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Speaker 1: as far as they were going to under him. He

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Speaker 1: was out coaching the playoffs. No, the Knicks had to

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Speaker 1: do this, but what they should have done, and we said, look,

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Speaker 1: it's okay if you take some time, it is okay.

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Speaker 3: It's a big thing that just happened. We don't need

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Speaker 1: Just because people are talking about it doesn't mean we

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Speaker 1: need to hear that you're going forward. Let's let let's

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Speaker 1: let things settle for a little bit, figure out the

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Speaker 1: direction you want to go, because I know you had

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Speaker 1: to let him go when you did because you wanted

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Speaker 1: to move on. Right, we know we're not we're not

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Speaker 1: bringing them back. We're gonna we're gonna rip the band

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Speaker 1: aid off now and that's how we're gonna go forward.

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Speaker 3: And there's no timeline. We don't need to.

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Speaker 1: You really want your your coach in by the draft,

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Speaker 1: which you still have a few days for that, or

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Speaker 1: at the very least by free agency.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's you have time.

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Speaker 1: But instead the Knicks panic with this stupid ass like

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Speaker 1: I really think I honestly think the Knicks, Leon Rose.

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Speaker 1: They thought we're the Knicks, We're great. And the first

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Speaker 1: couple of teams we reach out to, we're gonna poach

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Speaker 1: a coach from somebody. We're gonna poach a coach, right, well,

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Speaker 1: I like that to you. Put that on a T shirt,

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Speaker 1: poach you coach, like we are gonna do it when

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Speaker 1: somebody's gonna say yes, because we're the bleep and Nicks

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Speaker 1: and we're back. And suddenly, oh boy, this really didn't

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Speaker 1: turn out the way we thought. We thought coaches would

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Speaker 1: be dying to get to the Knicks. They would they

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Speaker 1: would stand up and say, no, free me up so

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Speaker 1: I can interview with this job. And nobody is. The

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Speaker 1: coaches aren't saying anything, the teams aren't letting him do it,

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Speaker 1: and this is the Knicks, right, Just sit back, don't panic,

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Speaker 1: right or talk to Mike Brown, talk to Taylor Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: talk to Mike Malone, right, no reason, and bring guys

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Speaker 3: These are the guys you should be talking to, right,

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Speaker 3: It's absolutely fine.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a song called Shipyard from the Last

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Speaker 1: So just when I say Sga is having a horrible

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Speaker 4: Find all these games are close late, and they gave

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Speaker 1: Man, Scott Fass for everybody the extender, Hey, sometimes I

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Speaker 1: Are we breaking down a stranglehold three to one lead

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the extender is extending.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, extending the viewing window with a lot of full silliness.

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Speaker 3: This tooid it counts.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's two separate technical free throws for SGA

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Speaker 3: This thing is going back to Oklahoma City tied it to.

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Speaker 1: It is now over Oklahoma City one eleven the Pacers

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Speaker 3: This series goes.

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Speaker 1: Back to Oklahoma City tied at two games apiece, and uh,

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Speaker 3: Will you know what the spread was for this game?

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Speaker 1: getting whistled for a big push off on jumper Dart.

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Speaker 3: You know, clearly loud Dort.

437
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Speaker 1: I mean you look at the last five minutes of

438
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Speaker 1: this game, and really I just want to say wow,

439
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,719
Speaker 1: like some of the stuff that didn't get called, uh

440
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 1: and did get called, Like Rick Carlisle is going to

441
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: lose his mind. Right, He's been very he's been very

442
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 1: calm throughout the NBA finals. Right, he's been very calm

443
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: throughout the NBA playoffs, not saying things like I hope

444
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,719
Speaker 1: that you know the team doesn't look at big market.

445
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 3: The league does look at big market.

446
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,880
Speaker 1: Teams and give them the advantage, like he did when

447
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 1: he started crying last year. Of the playoffs when they

448
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 1: were down.

449
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 3: To the Knicks.

450
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: But like tonight, oh you could tell it's now to

451
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 1: too going back home, they lost home court advantage. He

452
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 1: is going to explode because this last look. And I

453
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 1: can't say I blame him because this is just stuff

454
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: we talked about in the last five minutes, right the

455
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,399
Speaker 1: loud Dort play where it's a it's a one point

456
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 1: game and the Pacers have the ball and it looks

457
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: like Halliburton's gonna catch catch a pass and loud Dort

458
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,959
Speaker 1: just shoves him out of the way and grabs it,

459
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: goes the other way for a layup, gets fouled those

460
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 1: of the free throw line, hits his free throws right

461
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: the two fouls away from the ball that are whistled,

462
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: which come on, man, really you know one of them?

463
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: The first one, No way was that a foul. The

464
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 1: second one I could see it because Sga kind of

465
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,679
Speaker 1: got knocked to the ground, but both of those were called.

466
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: He goes the free throw line, so he gets those

467
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 1: extra free throws before they inbound the ball twice, big

468
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: time forearm pushoffs. But Sga, this is what MVPs. They

469
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 1: get those call. But man, I'll tell you. That's that's

470
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: like five calls in the last three minutes where I

471
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: could say, Man, if I'm the Pacers, I am just

472
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,959
Speaker 1: not happy. And listen, Rick Carlisle is going to absolutely

473
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 1: explain I can't believe he's gonna keep his cool because

474
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: he's someone that can only do it for so long.

475
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 1: He is not gonna do that in this in this

476
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: post game just watch. Yeah, I mean that move on

477
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: that jump shot is a patented move. On first glance

478
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: when we were talking about it as it transpired, you

479
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,959
Speaker 1: got a little bit of body, but then it becomes

480
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,199
Speaker 1: the well get off me with authority to create that

481
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Speaker 1: space and the open.

482
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Speaker 4: J the loot door call non call. I mean that's

483
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: gonna be what is that was in the final two minutes, right,

484
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 4: So that'll that'll show up in the two minute report

485
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: of Sorry. The first technical, okay, let it go. You've

486
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 4: been letting them be physical. The second one was clearly

487
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 4: just a bunch of guys in a scrum, right, trying

488
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 4: to set screens, trying to fight through screens, which you've

489
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: allowed them to do again all game long. That's been

490
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 4: some of the success for both of these squads and

491
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 4: the way they set their defenses this entire series, this

492
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 4: entire season. But SGA loses his balance, goes down, MVP call,

493
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: So Star Star turn Star getting calls is nothing new,

494
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 4: just they all stacked up one way as this game

495
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 4: came down to its final moments. And again, the Dort

496
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: play is probably the one that just stands out amongst

497
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 4: all the others, right because there's no that's not a

498
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: basketball play. That's not a hey, we were both fighting

499
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 4: for the ball. That's a get out to hear I'm

500
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 4: taking this and going the other way again, can't fold

501
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: a good strategy if you see the guy is misposition

502
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 4: where his whistle is take full advantage.

503
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: Scott Foster doing Scott Foster things right, like he's he's

504
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: a ill MVP of the game. Because these are all

505
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: calls that we're talking about in the final two minutes

506
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: of a back and forth playoff and it's a one

507
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: point game, and these are all things that well, Okay,

508
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe of the five, maybe you don't get

509
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: three of them, Okay, I get that, but these are five, like,

510
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: these are five calls man that that you that you

511
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: did not get. It's two freebies at the free throw line.

512
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: It's well Actually it's more because you talk you talk

513
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: about lou Dort making his free throws too, So it's

514
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: four free throws and it's and it's at least two

515
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: baskets by by SGA who pushed off big time twice

516
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: and didn't it didn't get called for it. So I mean,

517
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about that's that's eight points in the

518
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: final two minutes and the final margin of what it

519
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: was like that those are big things.

520
00:23:59,000 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: Man.

521
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: If if on you say, okay, if Oklahoma City got

522
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: three of those five calls, it's a toss up game, right,

523
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: like I I know, let's say, look, Rick Carlisle's going

524
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: to absolutely explode and I can't say I blame him

525
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: because this is this is where Now okay, I want

526
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: to say something about the officiating going back for these

527
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: last three games, because enough is enough. Right We saw

528
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: it tonight the last two minutes of this, I mean,

529
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, the last two minutes when they're they

530
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: call him and say hey Rick, yeah, NBA listen.

531
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: Uh hey, sorry about that. You'll see the Lettin report

532
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: talking by click wait.

533
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: What hello, hello hello yeah block block block Rickcarla, block Crickcarla.

534
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 1: So I mean I I can't wait to see what

535
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: he says. But I can't believe he's gonna hold his

536
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: tongue and he and he shouldn't because I'll be out. Look,

537
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: I said in the beginning, this series is going seven,

538
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: that the Pacers win Game three, the Thunderwood win game

539
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: fource oh, feeling grateful, But you know you call it

540
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: like you see at the final two minutes, and wow,

541
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: was there some stuff that clearly was was pushed the

542
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: Thunderway to tie this series up.

543
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 4: Look, and generally the lever of the you call it

544
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 4: as you did the rest of your forty six minutes

545
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 4: prior that. That means if you're letting him play physically,

546
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 4: you let him get after it, right, unless it's egregious

547
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: and you need to blow the whistle. You know, I'm

548
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 4: not a a It's now the final two minutes, so

549
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: don't call it. I'm I think consistency goes through. So

550
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: they were consistently bad. So I guess it holds up

551
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 4: upon further scrutiny to a degree. But what's the first

552
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 4: question to Rick Carlisle? So and then you just hold

553
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 4: up her hands like you do that, I don't know,

554
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: shrug like you do that Kevin James meme, you know

555
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: when he's in the kitchen and he's got his hands

556
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: in his pocket looking like a little kid who just

557
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 4: got caught with his hand in the cookies. Your heart, man,

558
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 4: that's really all you can do here, and just say,

559
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: all right, have at it.

560
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 1: Rick, Hi, Jason Smith, Fox Sports Radio. Do I even

561
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: need to ask? Or do you just want to just go?

562
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: Right? Do we even need to give you a question

563
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: or do you just you just want to go? Rick,

564
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: just just go, just go. That's all we need for.

565
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: The sake of his question, her question, that guy's question

566
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 4: back there, and Joe in the back. Rick, just just

567
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 4: just let it out.

568
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

569
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: I mean, really, look, I give the thunder all the

570
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: credit in the world. We're gonna get bigger into SGA

571
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: coming up in a few minutes. But this clearly was

572
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: going the Pacers way, and they found a way back

573
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: in it. They found a way back in it when

574
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: it took SGA until the final five minutes.

575
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: To really start a cutting through here.

576
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: But you know, now the series is to a piece,

577
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: and we go back to what I said after it

578
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: was it was tied at one, and I said, look,

579
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: this series is going seven. Right, neither team has solved

580
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: the other team. You're going to see one team play well,

581
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: and it's going to be in every other game the

582
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: rest of the series. Right, the Pacers win game one,

583
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City had just to win Game two. The Pacers

584
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: are just to win game three. Oklahoma City had just

585
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: to win game four. Right, And I'm still sticking with

586
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: the beginning where I said, Okay, Game five, Pacers game six,

587
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: thunder game seven. Right, that's how it's gonna go. And

588
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: that's exactly what we've seen. Neither team is strong enough

589
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: to be able to knock out the other team. And

590
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: clearly you're looking at the Pacers now, who all of

591
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, the big, the big red flag for them is, hey,

592
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: we haven't hit threes in a long time.

593
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 3: Guys. It's been two games since we have more than that,

594
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: two and a.

595
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 4: Half game since we started hit three.

596
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: And this is this is it.

597
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: Man, Like, we don't win if we don't hit threes.

598
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: This is a really we got lucky that we were

599
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: able to get by without hitting threes in Game three

600
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: and we won. But it's been a bit and this

601
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: is what's carried us throughout the entire playoffs. Like they

602
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: have to hit their threes. This is what does it

603
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: for them. And if they just you could say all

604
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: you want about the officiating at the end of the

605
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: game tonight, But if the Pacers go six of seventeen

606
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: from three point range, they win the game, right, not

607
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: even like eight of seventeen nine sec they go six

608
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: for seventeen, they win this game.

609
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Thunder three of seventeen Pacers eight more makes eleven

610
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 4: and thirty six on the night free throw disparity, it

611
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 4: was only a five differential. Oh and here's the thing.

612
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 4: They also the Thunder took care of their free throws,

613
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: shooting ninety percent as opposed to seventy five percent for

614
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: the Pacers, including those two big misses from Matharn in

615
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: the final minutes. Points in the paint huge for the Thunder,

616
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 4: a fourteen point differential there, and then turnovers ended up

617
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 4: being even. We saw some of the inbound issues that

618
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: had plagued teams.

619
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: All year long.

620
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: With the pressure Indiana was mounting, but they couldn't take

621
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 4: care of business at the offensive end in the final stretch.

622
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: Fourteen points of victory for the Thunder in the fourth

623
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: quarter thirty one seventeen to decided flip over what we'd

624
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: seen through the first three games of this series. So

625
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 4: maybe getting SGA those six minutes of rest, which was

626
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 4: actually about forty five minutes of real time because of

627
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: all the officiated stoppages of the clock, really came back

628
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 4: to benefit them in the fourth.

629
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Speaker 1: Because did you see Scott fosterraction over say hey, you

630
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: need a couple more minutes.

631
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait a minute, we're gonna review. What do we review?

632
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: It?

633
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: Gonna review, gonna review.

634
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: And look how tired SGA is right in a portable hyperbaric.

635
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 4: Chain, Like, what's going on?

636
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: All of a sudden they just wheel it out and

637
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: it's right there on the sideline.

638
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 4: Why's that guy in a sarcophagase?

639
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: What that? What's going on here?

640
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Why are they? Why are they taking the chair? Don't

641
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: the players sit in those chairs? Oh no, No, that's

642
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: where the chamber's gonna go.

643
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 3: You got a couple of dudes in their garden for like,

644
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: what's going on there?

645
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 4: No.

646
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,720
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Speaker 1: Radio in the iHeartRadio app. It'll always pop up at

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Speaker 1: the top of your screen.

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Speaker 3: Now time to find it. What's trending in the wide

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Speaker 3: world of sports.

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Speaker 1: So someone who's been called the Jason v he's a

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio WHOA. There's one time when he was

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Speaker 1: a kid of camp, he went swimming and two counselors

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Speaker 1: supposed to watch him decided to have sex instead. He

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Speaker 1: ran into trouble. It's Steve de Seger.

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Speaker 5: Wow, is this going to be going on all night?

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Speaker 5: For crying out loud?

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Speaker 3: You got two more Jason Vorhees is coming, just get

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Speaker 3: ready for Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm not sure people know who you're talking about

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Speaker 5: at this point in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: You think people don't know Jason Vorhees.

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Speaker 5: Really, in twenty twenty five, more.

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Speaker 1: People know Jason Vhees is a hockey mask and can

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Speaker 1: name one person.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's in the NHL.

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Speaker 5: Hockey mask absolutely actual person's name.

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Speaker 3: Not so sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Jason's pretty synonymous, and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: just this is my name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty synonymous.

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Speaker 5: This is hosted by Jason even that he's.

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Speaker 3: That old killer right from like forty years ago.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, even when it's Thursday the twelfth, Do you get

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Speaker 5: Jason here short.

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Speaker 3: Saturday the fourteenth with Richard Benjamin? Sure?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, You're not gonna be here on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: There fourteen Shake Gildews Alexander thirty five points.

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Speaker 1: Oh after that last two minutes, Steve, I don't think

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Speaker 1: any of us will be here for o.

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Speaker 5: Clob City tied at two games apiece after winning it

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Speaker 5: a comeback at Indiana one eleven one to oh four,

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Speaker 5: outscoring the Pacers in about the last ten minutes twenty

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Speaker 5: nine to fifteen. Shay Giljus Alexander with the thirty five

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Speaker 5: points and no assists in an NBA game for the

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Speaker 5: first time in almost five years. But according to AP

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Speaker 5: this season regular season plus playoffs, he scored at least

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Speaker 5: thirty points in a game sixty three different times. In

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Speaker 5: the last fifty seasons, only James Harden and of course

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Speaker 5: Michael Jordan have done that. His team is even and

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Speaker 5: going home for Game five on Monday night in the

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Speaker 5: WNBA Dallas at one and ten is in action at

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Speaker 5: Vegas and has taken the lead at Vegas seventy six

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Speaker 5: seventy one with about five minutes to go. Vegas three

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Speaker 5: time MVP Asia Wilson out tonight with a concussion. Atlanta

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Speaker 5: seven and three after beating Chicago eighty eight to seventy

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Speaker 5: ryaned with thirty six points from three point range. She

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Speaker 5: was nine of nineteen. Sam Burns leads by one at

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Speaker 5: the US Open to Major League Baseball. The Giants can

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Speaker 5: tie the Dodgers for first in the NL West Tonight.

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Speaker 5: The Giants are leading at LA, starting a weekend series

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Speaker 5: there five to one going to the sixth inning, just

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Speaker 5: one hit for the Dodgers. Meanwhile, LA starter Yoshinobu Yamamoto

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Speaker 5: allowed two early home runs, including a grand Slam. It

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Speaker 5: is the Diamondbacks five to one over the Padres top

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Speaker 5: of the seventh, Cleveland tied two to two at Seattle

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Speaker 5: bottom of the fifth, and a couple games on the

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Speaker 5: East Coast still going because of rain delays, the Marlins

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Speaker 5: holding on now eight seven at the Nationals going to

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Speaker 5: the eighth inning. Net's trying to end a five game

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Speaker 5: losing streak. The Orioles lead the Angels to nothing. In

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Speaker 5: the top of the ninth, Boston beat the Yankees in

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Speaker 5: ten innings two to one. Aaron Judge did hit his

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Speaker 5: twenty sixth homer that tied the game. Top of the ninth,

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Speaker 5: Tampa Bay held on to beat the Mets seven to five,

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Speaker 5: ending the Mets six game winning streak. Milwaukee headed Saint

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Speaker 5: Louis a six straight loss, three to two wins for

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Speaker 5: the A's and the Astros wins for Atlanta and Texas.

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Speaker 5: That Atlanta win was twelve four over Colorado. The Braves

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Speaker 5: were actually down four to one in the sixth. Colorado's

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Speaker 5: record now thirteen and fifty six.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Hey,

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Speaker 1: don't forget. Right after the show is over, our Best

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Speaker 1: of version posted right after we get off the end,

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Speaker 1: whether it's officiating in the final two minutes, the Pacers

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Speaker 1: missing their threes, or the big bold prediction that I'm

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Speaker 1: taking a big w on coming off of Game four

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. What was it That's next? Right here,

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday the thirteenth, Happy Friday the thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: The NBA Finals are now tied at two games apiece

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Speaker 3: the Thunder thanks to some.

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Speaker 1: Fortuitous officiating non calls on the SGA four on pushoffs,

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Speaker 1: loud Dort shoving Tyrese Heliburton out of the way for

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Speaker 1: a big steal.

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Speaker 4: That one's still curious to me.

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Speaker 1: Man, the away from the ball fouls that are called

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Speaker 1: in the final minute, Boy Scott Foster.

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Speaker 3: The extender extend, that's what extenders do. They want.

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Speaker 1: You don't bring an extender and to be surprised when

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Speaker 1: they're extending. Extenders extend. It's what they do, man, Extenders extend.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to say this because this is

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Speaker 1: also a big hard of the game and you got

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Speaker 1: to give credit where credits due. I said going into

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Speaker 1: game four, this is an SGA game. The thunder don't

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Speaker 1: win this game unless SGA has an MVP night, and

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Speaker 1: he did not have one for the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: the game. He had twenty one points on twenty shots.

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Speaker 1: Like that doesn't work, man, Like that you buried him.

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Speaker 1: He was having a base inspired him taken. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: am taking all kinds of credit for that, because the

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Speaker 1: last five minutes of this.

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Speaker 3: Game he was absolutely bananas. All right.

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Speaker 1: Now, Now it's not thirty five. He didn't get thirty five,

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Speaker 1: but that's okay, he didn't get forty.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the w because he went.

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Speaker 1: For thirty five and he scored I want to say

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Speaker 1: it was what fourteen points in the final six minutes in.

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Speaker 4: The fifteen their final sixteen points.

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Speaker 1: It was an incredible run. And let this is what

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Speaker 1: MVP players do. Man, this is the SGA. I am

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Speaker 1: not gonna let us lose game, right. J Williams was

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Speaker 1: terrific all game right, Chet Holmgren really came up big,

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Speaker 1: Alex Caruso off the bench, But the last five and

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Speaker 1: a half minutes this was SGA. Yes, he got some

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Speaker 1: he got some officiating non calls, got the yes, I

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Speaker 1: understand this, But this is where the MVP says, I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna let us lose. When when everybody starts shaking

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Speaker 1: a little bit and things are getting a little weird

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Speaker 1: and a little serious, and you're you're staring at the

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Speaker 1: end of your season, this is where the MVP says,

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Speaker 1: it's my time. And he was the guy that won

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Speaker 1: the game, and I look, that's why I said, coming in, SGA,

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Speaker 1: does it not show up? But he had enough not

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Speaker 1: showing up in the last game. In the first three

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Speaker 1: and a half quarters of this game, it was like

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Speaker 1: Superman two when the whole world is going, Superman, where

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Speaker 1: are you?

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00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: Where we need your Superman? These three people have come

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Speaker 3: from Krypton.

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Speaker 1: In general Zod is running things, and I mean the

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Speaker 1: old General Zod Terrence Stamp, not the new one Michael Shannon.

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Speaker 3: I mean we got to you got Superman. Where are you?

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Speaker 1: The President's on TV Superman Like I'm saying the same thing, SGA,

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Speaker 1: where are you Man? You are ISO balling it and

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're not dishing, You're not getting anybody involved.

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Speaker 1: You no assist tonight dude, what is happening? And then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Nope, give me the game. The

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Speaker 1: last five and a half minutes he couldn't miss. He

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Speaker 1: got to the free throw line. Everything he needed to

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Speaker 1: do he did. This is what MVPs do when he

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Speaker 1: came through that way.

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Speaker 4: Three of six in the fourth quarter from the field,

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Speaker 4: but eight of eight from the line, taking care of business.

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Speaker 4: He was plus sixteen during that time. Finishes with thirty

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Speaker 4: five points. Curious going through the addles of history of

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Speaker 4: teams to win a finals game with the fewest team

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Speaker 4: assists because they did not move the ball for anything,

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Speaker 4: trying to punctuate your statement of the ball stop or

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Speaker 4: that SGA was but when it mattered, came up big

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Speaker 4: fortuitous of the calls that got him to the line

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Speaker 4: during the regular season and all through these playoffs. In

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Speaker 4: the final minutes, there's some contact. He's getting the call

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Speaker 4: all right now or non call as it were on

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Speaker 4: the jumper that I think will be shown now billion times.

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Speaker 4: I think it's gonna end up looking like the one

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Speaker 4: with Jordan and Russell before it's all said and done,

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Speaker 4: that compar shortan that was Angel Reese. Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: leave that one sit there. For sure, I'm gonna put

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Speaker 4: that there fastest to five hundred points and five hundred

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Speaker 4: rebounds in w NBA history, you know, just because I

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Speaker 4: know my w NBA history. But for for Sga, yeah,

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Speaker 4: a huge moment. And now we get the best of three,

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Speaker 4: absolute chaos.

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Speaker 1: I love him, man, I'll tell you that this was

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Speaker 1: absolutely Uh it's what you need to see. It's what

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Speaker 1: you want to see when you're the MVP. These are

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Speaker 1: the games you have to have it at least the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And and knowing he was gonna take all

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Speaker 1: the shots and the Pacers still couldn't stop him, knowing

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Speaker 1: he's he's taking every shot, He's taking every shot, and

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Speaker 1: we can roll the coverages towards you, we can figure

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Speaker 1: things out. And again I'm not again, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say that getting the pushoffs and not getting calf that helps.

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Speaker 3: It really dates help.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it really does help when you can push

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Speaker 1: the other team and not get foul calls at that

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Speaker 1: really and when they push you you get the call.

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Speaker 3: That really helps. But but this is I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: this was easy. This was easy to see.

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Speaker 1: Sga is gonna do it, and he is, and this

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Speaker 1: is why all teammates stand behind in interviews and they

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Speaker 1: yell MVP and they say incredible things about him, like

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Speaker 1: we talked about him. You want to look for a

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Speaker 1: face of the league being a shake Gilgess Alexander. You

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Speaker 1: see the way his teammates feel about him and what

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Speaker 1: they say, and how he takes over games at the end.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't always need to be a great heroic shot.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it is, sometimes it's but it's always the right

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Speaker 1: basketball play, which Lebron always says. The right basketball payer

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Speaker 1: iss be to pass out of that double team with

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Speaker 1: you know, one second left in the game. But he

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Speaker 1: always seems to make the right basketball play, and that's

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Speaker 1: really something. That's what he does better than almost anybody

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Speaker 1: else in the league right now is make those right plays.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The curiosity though, is the number of makeable field goals,

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Speaker 4: because he finished with zero assists.

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Speaker 1: Now zero, When you score fourteen out and the last sixteen,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to pass, man.

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Speaker 3: Where were you the other three quarters? Man? We break

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Speaker 3: down more Game four next Fox