1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Well, this is where it gets interesting. If keptco wins US, 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: he'll have five major championships. He will have broken the 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: tie with Rory. I mean, he'll have won five majors 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: since Rory won his last one. He'd be wild if 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Brooks kept his spats Rory four majors and he gets 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: a career Grand Slam first. That got thoughts in my head. 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: Can't get him out, John, Not the thing what I'm 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: thinking about. That thoughts in my head, can't get him out, John, 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Not the thing what I'm thinking about. Hello, this is 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Alan Schipnuck back for another Fire Drill podcast. Michael Bamberger 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: and I are in a secret corner of the Press building. 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: And the thing that's I think that's amazing about Augusta 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: Nashville is everywhere you go there's something new to see it. 14 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: It's like Disneyland and they've they've ushered us to this 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: giant boardroom. We're sitting like fifty feet apart at the 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: same table. I've got Adam Scott behind me. It's kind 17 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: of cool. I never do this existed like the the 18 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: the expansion of the campus just boggles. But anyway, it's 19 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: just a quick note on that Island. The first year 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: this place was open, the chairman of the club was 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: still Billy Pain and I wrote him a note about 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: a month after the tournament, and I said that I 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: was still in the press building and that nobody had 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: found me yet. And he wrote back, dear mister Barmburger, 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 1: I do not find you funny at all, Sincerely mister 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: William Paine. The first part is absolutely sure. I did 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: not get a response. See that's I mean, that's just 28 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: bad manners. Like on Billy, You've got the dean of 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: the golf takes time to send you a personal letter. 30 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: It should be responded, Tom, I'm offended on your behalf. 31 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: Should we quickly describe or ambivalence to the stylish mahal 32 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: of press catering. Oh, it's sure, I mean it's it's 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: stronger than that for me. Like every master's week, you 34 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: see these these members come in with their friends and 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: family and they're giving them a tour of the press 36 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: building like it's the zoo, Like, oh look, those are 37 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: the writers at work in their natural habitat. It's like 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: so offensive, and I mean it looks cool. It's it's 39 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: it is grand. There's a lot of things we don't 40 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: need or care about, like there's a whole locker room 41 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: of showers. Like maybe if you're a super sweaty TV guy, 42 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: that's helpful, but most of us don't need that. The 43 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: food is good. They built like this lovely little restaurant, 44 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: but the things that matter are like the Wi Fi, 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: which is it comes and goes, and it's the interview space. 46 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: And the old building it was small and crowded and hot, 47 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: and there was like a real intimacy that either the 48 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: writers are right on top of the players and you 49 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: felt a connection, You've got a lot of great stuff. 50 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Then now it's like this mausoleum that it's just to 51 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: look good on TV. They've put They've put the the 52 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: players on a stage separated by all this dark, heavy 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: wood and all these flowers, and there's like no connection. 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: They're so far where you feel like you're in this 55 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: like library built in the nineteenth century and you're supposed 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: to like whisper like the two things that really matter 57 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: for us to our jobs. I mean c minus at best, 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: but it is it does look good for the members 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: where they show their their friends and family, like, oh 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: these are writers. Look at his look at the coffee 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: stains on his shirt. And yeah, yeah, they are mostly 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: bald and overweight. That's true. I mean they're like anthropologists. 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: But anyway, don't get me started. What are your feelings, 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Michael Well? I think the only reason like we would 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: even have the listener engage in this part of the 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: of the broadcast is that there really has been a 67 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: disthification of the tournament of the week. There have been 68 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: some real positive changes in recent years. I think the 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: gust National Women's Amateur event is fantastic. I love it, 70 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: but it is sort of all a little bit more 71 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: maybe not a little bit, a lot more mechanized than 72 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: it used to be. And you know, even like something 73 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: like yesterday's situation in Brooks KPKA. I mean, it's an 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: odd situation to me. It was very clear that the 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: caddies said five. It's clearly a violation of the rules. 76 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: But if you want the public to really understand it, 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: there has to be some give and take with the players, 78 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: the caddies, the rules guy. And we don't have that, 79 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: partly because of this building and partly because just things 80 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: have evolved in a way where everything is more precise 81 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: and perfect and we're going only going to present you 82 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: the finished answer, but there is really no finished answer, 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, so the messiness is carta gone. Yeah, exactly. 84 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: So I used to get a lot of good interviews 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: done on the the clubhouse porch, in the essentially the 86 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: front of the clubhouse where you pull in, not the 87 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: back that faces the course, and like this is pre COVID. 88 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: I was talking to Paul Casey there and the security 89 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: guard came to chase me away. To Paul Casey's credit, 90 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: He's like, let us finish the interview. And so I 91 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: went to the security guard. I was like, what the fuck. 92 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: I've been doing interviews here for twenty years, and they're like, well, 93 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: the rules have changed. And so I marched over to 94 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: the green jacket who is in charge of sort of 95 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: the interview area, and I was like, what is happening 96 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: and he said, well, the chairman does not like to 97 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: see reporters on that side of the clubhouse. And I said, 98 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: I said, well, I explained how in this job, information 99 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: is the coin of the realm, and it's that's how 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: that's what sets us apart as reporters, is what we 101 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: can get that nobody else has. And I said, that's 102 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: a great place for me new interviews. He's like, well, 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: we have this nice flash area for you. I said, well, yeah, 104 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: that's anything anyone says, it goes out to the whole 105 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: world because Agra gated it's on every website and that 106 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: has no value to me. And and he said, well, 107 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: the chairman does not like to see reporters over there. 108 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: I said, well, the chairman doesn't understand how we do 109 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: our job. And then he gave me this big, beautiful 110 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: smile and he said, well he doesn't have to. And 111 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: I said, that is I said, that is the single 112 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: most honest thing anyone's ever said at Augusta National. And 113 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: so they took that away. And then in COVID they 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: closed the locker room where we couldn't talk to players. 115 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 1: COVID's over I think because they're acting like there's no testing, 116 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: there's no mass, there's no COVID policy. But now we 117 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: can't get in the locker room. It's just never going 118 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: to come back. And the reason why the very board 119 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: listener at home might be interested in this is like 120 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, which was the Champions dinner, and there 121 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: was all this build up about how Spicy was going 122 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: to be. If I could have I would have gone 123 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: and camped out on the front porch until nine or 124 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: ten PM, and I would have picked off all the 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: players after dinner and gotten the real scoop about what 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: happened in real time. It was a little drunk and 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: more likely to be honest, and it would have been 128 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: a great story. But because I can't get on that 129 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: side of the clubhouse, they were just going to walk 130 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: out and go to their cars and I couldn't get there. 131 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: And so it's this sanitized official version that Augusta National 132 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: wants to mandate, and they prevent us from doing our jobs, 133 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: and that's why it sucks. Now let's talk about the Masters. 134 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I feel so I feel better. I was all pent up. 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Now now I'm ready to talk about the golf. But 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: so it's it's late in the second round, brooks Kept 137 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: played an absolute spectacular round of golf, shot five under. 138 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: He's twelve under for the tournament. He's leading by four 139 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: strokes over the amateurs. Mister Bennett. John rom is still 140 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: in the golf course and it's been a little rain 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: so often, so he may close the gap here while 142 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: we're talking. But we wanted to get this podcast to 143 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: our listeners as soon as possible, and he's really the 144 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: only guy that matters right now on the golf course. 145 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: But let's start with the Brooks because it's clearly his 146 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: tournament to lose. I think he had a really insightful 147 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: conversation he should with his swing coach, Claude Harmon. You know, 148 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: they had this this messy breakup and for about two 149 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: years they weren't working together. I mean, Claude was there 150 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: for the glory years, you know, seventeen eighteen nineteen, and 151 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 1: then they came back together last summer, and he's played 152 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: obviously an important role in Brooks's ascension back to big 153 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: bad Brooks Kepka and two things he told me that 154 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: really stood out as well. And he said Brooks was 155 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: working harder now than he did when he was number 156 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: one because the game it was easy for him. Then 157 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: now he's had to find it and chase it. And 158 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: that he's scoffed at the notion that that Live has 159 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: made Brooks or any other players so off. He said, 160 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: this guy's busted his butt. But what he also said is, 161 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, Brooks, he thrives on controversy. He loves it. 162 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: He's like John. He made a parallel to John McEnroe, 163 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: which I thought was great. He's like Brooks needs a 164 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: foil and all the live angst has just has just 165 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: rabbed his engine and so he's healthy. He swings more 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: technically sound, and he's super fired up and he wants 167 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: to win this badly. So that's my little riff on books. Michael, 168 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: what have you seen out of up to including this 169 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: business with a caddy that is now swirling around. Yeah, 170 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: it'll go away because that's the nature of the beast 171 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: right now, the swirling thing with the caddy, and no 172 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: one's going to say, oh, you know, he's lead instead 173 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: of four, it should be two, even though I do 174 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: feel like he lee should be four instead of two, 175 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: because I think it's very clear that the caddy did 176 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: break the rules, and the caddies, for those who don't know, 177 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: the caddy in the rule book is basically extension of 178 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: the player from whom he's working here she is working. 179 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: And it's kind of a shame that it didn't get 180 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: addressed properly because if he does go on to win 181 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: this thing, then there's a little tiny asterisk on it 182 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: and people can say, and I totally understand, well, who 183 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: cares it didn't have any influence on the outcome. That's 184 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: very possibly true. But the fact is the underpinning of 185 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: all of golf is there is a rule book and 186 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: it needs to be enforced all the time. It can't 187 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: pick and choose when you're going to force leaving that 188 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: all the side by the way, just for those for 189 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: the listener who might still be curious. The thing with 190 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: Keptka signaling five is he's taking off the glove that 191 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people have been paying diner. Just to 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: share my own opinion about it, I don't think he 193 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: was signing anything. I really actually believe it when he 194 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: says he was just taking off his glove. I don't 195 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: think he would. I don't know. I just don't think 196 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: that's just how I saw it. But I guess it's 197 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: worth mentioning because it shows you that people can really 198 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: view different things differently. Somebody else might say, oh so 199 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: I Elliott mouthed that, but he wasn't saying five. He 200 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: was saying, you know, dinner at five or some crazy 201 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: thing who knows kept on all cylinders healthy, psychologically healthy, 202 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: physically healthy. You know, we've seen it now for what 203 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: six years. One of the best players ever to play 204 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: the game, just a dominating golfer. We were on with 205 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: Jeff Ogilby yesterday and all three of us are saying 206 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: the same thing. Brooks kept good. Looks like he's going 207 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: to win this thing. Having said that, you would have 208 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: said the same thing at Bethpage Black when he won there, 209 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: and what he was at two thousand and nineteen, I 210 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: think it looked like he should run away with it. 211 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: In the end, he just sort of walked away with it. 212 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: I think the same thing will happen here this golf course, 213 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: this the combination golf course in tournament and what you're 214 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: playing for, especially if you have guys all of whom 215 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: are trying to get their first screen coat. Let's say 216 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: John rom Victor Hoffland, called Amerkawa, Shane Lowry, Let's say 217 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: they're all in the knicks. They'll all start choking up 218 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: stuff and doing unexpected things come Sunday and will have 219 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: a tight leaderboard come Sunday. But even having said that, 220 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: if his lead is still four shots by the end 221 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: of thirty six souls, it's a substantial lead for a 222 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: guy who's doing everything. It's not like he's gotten lucky 223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: to be where he is. He's just doing everything right. 224 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: He's not doing anything spectacular, is just playing really solid. 225 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: Brooks good golf. The putter looks so good in his hands. 226 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: He just it just looks comfortable. And you know he 227 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: Brooks is a fader of the golf wold. If you 228 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: saw a second shot on thirteen today, you know he 229 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: kind of hugged the creek with his drive, which is ballsy, 230 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: shortened the hole by turning it over so that right 231 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: there's not an easy play, and then he had to 232 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: hook the second shot around these trees that almost knocked 233 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: the flagstick down for a very easy two pop Bertie. 234 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: But those two swings tell me he's fully in control 235 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: of his instrument, because that's those are doer dice shots. 236 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: And he went against his natural ball flight and so 237 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I didn't see the two shot 238 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: on Alan on thirteen. What did he do there instead 239 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: of baling out right? I mean, he kind of took 240 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: a left center line and turned it over and he 241 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: was right down, you know, left side of the fairway, 242 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: which is that things can go sideways there. And I'm 243 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: just saying for guys will play to their on the 244 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: hard hole. Sometimes they refer back to their there's the 245 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: safest ball shape, like tigers hitting these big cuts on 246 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: dog leg lefts, like he's just trying to find the 247 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: fairway and you know he's he's reverted back to that, 248 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: which is okay when you're struggling. But um, yeah, the 249 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: thing about Brooks when he's playing well is he has 250 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: a certain mystique which is very rare in this game. 251 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: He has he has a there's there's a badass energy 252 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: around him that very few golfers have. And you know, 253 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: you would I would say it's Sevy Ask in certain ways. 254 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: Sevy is more flamboyant, but there was he had a 255 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: presence that you felt, and you know Faudo had that 256 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: to some degree, Norman had it, Tiger had it. There's just, um, 257 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: there's there's a feeling like this, like it's like alpha energy, right, 258 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: and it's kind of a cliche, but Brookes radio it's 259 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: that and it's a real thing. I mean it's palpable, 260 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: you can feel it. And uh, this thing is certainly 261 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: not over. I mean the Saturday forecast is for very 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: cold temperatures, a lot of rain and wind, and so 263 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: if if Brooks is fractionally off, you could easily shoot 264 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: eighty and this thing gets blown open. But uh, he's 265 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: been so in control of his golf ball, which is paramount. 266 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, the scramblers were kind of hanging on right now, 267 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: they'll get exposed in that weather. You have to hit 268 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: in the middle of the club face, and Brooks is 269 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: doing that every time. So I think the bad weather 270 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: actually helps them. I think it can separate him from 271 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: from a lot of the contenders. But let's talk about 272 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: some of the guys or do you ever the last 273 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 1: book one quick brook slot? But it's really abroad August 274 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: National thought. And this is why, despite all the things 275 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about about the lack of intimacy and how 276 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: it's changed over the years, one of the most intimate 277 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: moments on this golf course, and it's almost it is 278 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: almost guaranteed to be high drama this year, as it 279 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: is every year, is the T shot on thirteen. And 280 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: now it's a different T shot than it was a 281 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So I'm fascinated to hear Alan 282 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: what you said. Here's a guy who can fade the ball, 283 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: hit a mile high with four yards of fade and 284 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: long and totally in control shot after shot after shot, 285 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: and he's going to stand on Sunday trying to win 286 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: his first green coat and try to drive the ball 287 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: in the fairway where he can knock a six iron 288 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: on and two put for four maybe and maybe make 289 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: a putt for three and try to do something that 290 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: doesn't come naturally to him. And we've seen Sergio do 291 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: We've seen Ernie do it. We've seen Savey back in 292 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: the day do it. It's there's a lot that can 293 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: go wrong the whole back nine, and you know we 294 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: always and we had on Jeff Vogli last side. We're 295 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: talking a little bit about the similarities between the old 296 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: course in this place. But what this place has, which 297 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: really Oqua and Shinnecock Hills and the old course and 298 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: other songs. It's got lakes, lakes in play. There are 299 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: water hazards go to lore in this golf course. And 300 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: if you're really playing well and it's Thursday Friday, you're 301 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: not really thinking about it. But it's impossible not to 302 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: think about him on Sunday. And that's why we get 303 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: giddy anticipating what we're anticipating the weekend of Master's play. 304 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Brooks is a discipline player though, like you know, 305 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: for him, he calculates the risk and going for it 306 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: on Friday is worth it, and he made the birdie 307 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: and that's creative. If he still has a three four 308 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: shot lead, he has the discipline not of Phil Nicholson, 309 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: like he'll he'll play he'll play this the correct shot. 310 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: So I think he's less likely to give it back. 311 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: That's really interesting because we might see something we've never 312 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: seen a leader hitting four or earn sandwich into thirteen. 313 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: But maybe that's the way to make that Maybe that's 314 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: your best joan speaker for there. Sure, yeah, yeah, hybrid three, 315 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of there's a lot of ways 316 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: you could play that hole. 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So I'm happy to share that 340 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: you're going to write about one Philip Alfred Mickelson, who 341 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: had a crazy round yesterday. I would encourage anyone listening 342 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: you hasn't done, so go to maasters dot com call 343 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: up the Thursday round. You can watch every shot and 344 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: feel hit a driver off to the deck out of 345 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: the pine straw. He had driver off the deck on 346 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: eight to set up a birdie. He played a shot 347 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: right handed, a ball in the water. It was one 348 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: of those wildly entertaining seventy ones in the history of golf, 349 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: and but today it was it was it was a 350 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: cleaner round. He shot three under, one of the best 351 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: scores of the day. He's he's right at this moment, 352 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: he's tied for tenth. I mean, he's eight shots back, 353 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: but he's only four shots out of second place. And 354 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: when I saw out of field was he put jaunty 355 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: out there? He looked like he was having fun. And 356 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: he's been in such a funk for you know, the 357 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: last year plus. And we all know he missed last 358 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: year's Masters. He's back again, and something about this place 359 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: has always lit him up. But I think this is 360 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: exactly what he needed. But Michael, what did you see 361 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: how to field that he liked? Well, he was, you know, 362 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: he was having a great time on the golf course. 363 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: He was in a great time off the golf course. 364 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: Amy is here. I haven't seen her personally since the 365 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup in Wisconsin, you know, right after the PGA, 366 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: where he was where he was so triumphant. He needs 367 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: golf probably more It's just an odd thing to say 368 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: about a fifty year old man for as successful as 369 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: he is, But he probably needs golf more now than 370 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: any other point in his life because he's trying to 371 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: reclaim a life that he had and that was built 372 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: on golf, not coffee or fitness or fancy belts or 373 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: anything else. So I think he's doing what a lot 374 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: of people do when they're in a bind. He's doubling 375 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: down the thing that he really likes, the things that 376 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: he's really good at. And why wouldn't he be giddy 377 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: doing it at a Gusta National, at the place that 378 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: he dearly dearly looks. Yeah, he's certainly. You know, he's 379 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: been playing very mediocre golf at the live events, but 380 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: I've seen it with my own ice, how hard he's working. 381 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been on the putting green for hours 382 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: at a stretch. I saw it in Tucson. I saw 383 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: in Mexico. He's hitting bags and bags of balls like 384 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: he hasn't given up. He's still on this quest to 385 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: be an impactful player. And when you have that kind 386 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: of talent and and you have that drive, it's it's 387 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: a good combination. You know, you can't play your best 388 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: golf at this level without a clear head. And you 389 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: see it all the time, and whether someone's got a 390 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: sick parent or marital woes or whatever is it affects 391 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: their performance and it Phil's been through the ringer at 392 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: the last year and a half and so I feel 393 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: like he's just kind of getting back to himself. As 394 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: press conference yesterday, it was actually he was funny. You know, 395 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: he's been so muted and careful and you can he's 396 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: like just dripping with the media training. That's not who 397 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: the guy is. Like. He's a showman, he's a freewheeler. 398 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: He's a huge personality, and it was all stuffed and 399 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: bottled up and he sounds like himself. He looks his 400 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: game looks is vintage. So I'm not suggesting that Phil 401 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: can close the gap on Brooks, but it's just fun 402 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: to have him around and hidden shots and interacting with 403 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: the gallery and you know, welcome back, Phil. I think 404 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: we all missed you on sub level, even the people 405 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: who feel has always been polarizing, and there's people who've 406 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: never liked Phil. There's probably more people who don't like 407 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: him now, but even those people have to enjoy watching 408 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: a play golf, even if you're rooting against him, It's 409 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: still fun to watch. I think, do you feel Alan, 410 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: I know you're far closer to it than than most 411 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: people would be. Do you feel that there is some 412 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: sort of flying out between live golf and the PGA 413 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Tour at this moment thawing out? Yeah? I think this 414 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: is going to be remembered as kind of an important 415 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: week for that, because you know, they came they came 416 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: together at the US Open, in the British Open last year, 417 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: and that was the thick of it. Players were jumping 418 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: left and right and the drumbeat of speculation and all 419 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: of it, and everyone was defensive, everyone was bitchy, and 420 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: the volume got way turned up. And obviously a lot 421 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: of time has passed since then. It's wild that the 422 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: of all the weeks that the arbitration case got settled 423 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: over in Europe and clarified that piece of the pie, 424 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: and I think that, Yeah, I think there's been good 425 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: energy that I pulled some players aside and asked them, like, Okay, 426 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: I know everyone's saying that that it's been it's been 427 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: fine and dandy, but like, give me the dirt, Like 428 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: what have you seen and everyone even and I was like, 429 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: I won't use your name, is like, tell me something juicy. 430 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's coming up empty. I mean, I think the players, 431 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: partly out of kind of respect for the institution, they 432 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: want to rise above it here Augusta, Nashville. And I 433 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: think they're also tired of it. Like these guys didn't 434 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: sign up to be barristers or to be pr folks. 435 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: I think they're just golfers. They just want to play golf. 436 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: And so I've sent I've sent a simmering down of 437 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: the tension. But again, if Brooks hangs on to win, 438 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: that's a big deal. And you know that Greg Norman 439 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: is going to be blowing up social media, lives gonna 440 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: be putting out TV commercials. It's gonna be a monumental 441 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: thing for lives credibility. The crown jewel the sport is 442 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: the Open at St. Andrews. They have the guy that 443 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: won that the second most covenant thing and all of 444 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: the of golf is a green jacket. If they if 445 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: they have those two guys on their on their league, 446 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: it just gets really hard to dismiss it. And the 447 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: talking you know, the tours primary talking point is that 448 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: we're hardcore competition, we're a meritocracy and they're just a 449 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: BS exhibition, and a lot of fans have bought into that, 450 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: but Brooks kept the preparation for this Masters was playing 451 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: live golf events and winning live golf tournaments. Yeah, that's 452 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: how he got That's how he got sharp. And so 453 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: if he plays like this and he wins this, the 454 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: critique of lives as not real competition, it gets gets 455 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: hard to make. And so there's a lot at stake, 456 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: and it will it will turn the volume up again 457 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: on some of the discourse. But I do think it 458 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: are personally the players have kind of whether they did 459 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: it by design or just came naturally, they've they've kind 460 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: of chilled out. Yeah, I feel the same, And I 461 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: mean it's sort of this isn't well. When we look 462 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: back at this period, the fact that Greg Norman couldn't 463 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: attend the Champions Center at the Old Quarters last year, 464 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: where you know, all the Open champions were to be invited, 465 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: because he started a competing golf leak, it's going to 466 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: look insane. Actually, I think it is. You know, I 467 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: thought it was insane. Then you have a dinner for 468 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: former winners it's not like he murdered somebody. He just 469 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: started a golf league you don't like. So cooler heads 470 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: are prevailing and probably to some degree of fatigue is 471 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: setting in about the whole discussion. And we can't get 472 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: inside Rory mclroy's head. But for Rory mclroy, as good 473 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: as he is and playing as well as he hasn't 474 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: been playing with all the proposition they had to come 475 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: here and miss a cut tiger the same, but that's 476 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: kind of a different category. It tells me he must 477 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: have had some sort of vicious mental fatigue about all 478 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: that he has had to do of sort of carrying 479 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: the anti lib pro PGIA tour flame, you know. I mean, 480 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: it wasn't that longer that Rory mcgoy was saying, you know, 481 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: Greg Mustco, why who? And with due due respect, who 482 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: are you to say Greg Mustco? He doesn't work for you? 483 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: And and I say this with a lot of sympathy 484 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: for Rur because I know he believes what he's saying 485 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: and it's important to have a voice to speak up 486 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: for the PGA Tour and he's the person who has 487 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: been sort of anointed to do it, and he's fulfilled 488 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: the role spectacularly well. But I don't see how he 489 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: couldn't be a little mentally tired himself at this point, 490 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: because I don't really know what else could explain. Now, 491 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: maybe he is he going to miss the cut of 492 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: a part of me if I'm spoke there, But he's 493 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: going to miss the cut. So it's almost inexplicable. This 494 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: is one of the easiest cuts in all of German 495 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: golf to make. He's one of the best golfers in 496 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: the world. For him to miss this cut seems beyond unlikely. Well, 497 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: and he missed the cut at the Players Championship. I 498 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: mean there's there's definitely a little swing funk going on. 499 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's hooking a lot of t shots and 500 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: if Roy Mcinway is not going to drive the ball, well, 501 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: then you know there's a there's a time space continuum, 502 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: there's a rupture there, and so he's got some technical issues. 503 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: But again, does that come from not having he's so 504 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: burnt out on life he doesn't want to go practice. 505 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: Is his mind cluttered like we were talking about it. 506 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: It's sad to see Rory just I don't like I 507 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: say he gave up, but just to get blown away 508 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: by this golf course. I mean, he looked fried mentally yesterday. 509 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: But when you're as good as Rory, you can't get 510 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: blown away by the scolf course. It's not hard enough 511 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: for him to get blown away by the sculf course. 512 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: You can blow yourself away. But I mean brook Show 513 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: Brook scup has twelve on apart without doing anything astounding 514 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: for brook Skopka. For us, it would be astounding, but 515 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: it's not for him. Rory's Roy's the same same exact 516 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: scill Scott is brook Skepka and he shot what you know, 517 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen shots worse well. And this is where it 518 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: gets interesting. If Kepko wins this, he'll have five major championships. 519 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: He will have broken the tie with Rory. And one 520 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: thing Roy could always hang his hat on is when 521 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: all said done, I'll be the best player of the 522 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: post Tiger era. You know, he's wide in the gap 523 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: food himself and George Speed. You know, Dustin's had a 524 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: tremendous career, but only the two Mays is probably. You know, 525 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: Rory's gonna win that tiebreaker every time no matter what. 526 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: But if Kepta gets to five majors, he's won. He's 527 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: won the one that Rory covets the most. He's selling 528 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: that he's not He'll be knocking on the doorstep of 529 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: the Grand Slam himself. Career Grand Slam. I'm like, uh, 530 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: we we have another probably decade for this to play out, 531 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: but it would be a monumental statement for for Kepca. 532 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he'll have won five majors since Rory won 533 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: his last one. It's unbelievable he'll I mean there's some 534 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: all time genuses the five major championship wins Sevy Bisteros 535 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Byron Nelson. I mean, five is a monumental number. You 536 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: get to six, you're talking phil Lee Trevino. I mean, 537 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: this is very rarefied air and it's Kepca doesn't have 538 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: the body of work. He hasn't won as many tour 539 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: vents he has won around the world, you know, the 540 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: outside of his career. He's won in Italy and Spain 541 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: and Turkey and some out of the way places, which 542 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: is cool. But it's Rory and his Tiger and Jack 543 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: and it's others who have elevated the majors to be 544 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: all end all, If that's the yardstick, Brooks is standing 545 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: very tall already and he gets this one. I mean, 546 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: it's it gets really interesting, like how deep can this 547 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: guy take it? Because he was he was always a 548 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: big game hunter, his game travels. I mean, he's got 549 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: that he can smash these low drives that can just 550 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: tear it through the wind. I mean, he's definitely a 551 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: threat to win any open the way he's playing. So 552 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: it would be wild if if brooks Keptca spots Rory 553 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: four Majors and he gets a career Grand Slam first, 554 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: like it's been the same with George Speed. You know, 555 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: he spotted George Speed three. Like this guy's going to 556 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: reshape our thinking about about this whole era if he 557 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: keeps going like this. Yeah, I mean if if if 558 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: it's a race still the Grand Slam between those two, 559 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: I would have to get the edges to brooks Kepca. 560 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: It would seem like brooks Skepica is gonna gonna win 561 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: a British Open for all the reasons you decided others 562 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: before Rorry would win here, uh, in part because maybe 563 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: it just does mean I mean too much of him. 564 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. I know it's been 565 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: a while, but you have spent time with Brooke Skeptico 566 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: off the golf course. He was saying yesterday I was 567 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: asking about the Netflix series and sort of the vulnerable 568 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: side that he that he showed, and he said, uh, 569 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: that there was a disconnect, but what he showed in 570 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: public and what he showed in his private life. Do 571 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: you have any experience along those lines? Do you have 572 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: a sense of of pow true that is? Yeah. I 573 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: mean I went to his house for a big cover story, uh, 574 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: for one of the golf magazines, and yeah, he got 575 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: some time and he's, you know, in the pool and 576 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: he's got the dog and we're sitting out on the 577 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: on the dock, and there is a reflective side to Brooks. 578 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: And I only got little glimpses of it, you know, 579 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: the whole thing. There's a lot of people there, there's 580 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: a camera crew. It was it was not exactly quiet time. 581 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: But I do think there's there's some kind of depth there. 582 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Like I mean, it Emo Brooks that came out in 583 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: the in the Netflix show. I thought it was impressive. 584 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: It takes bravery for any human being to be vulnerable 585 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: in any setting like that's especially a guy who's kind 586 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: of built his brand on being being a tough guy, 587 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, and whether you enjoyed that episode or what 588 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: it changed your opinion about Brooks or not, Like it 589 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: takes courage to be to be honest about your struggles, 590 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: and so I slewed him for that, and there is 591 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: it does take a certain amount of character. And even 592 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: going back to my interview with Claude Harmon, it was 593 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: funny he said, you know, all these guys out here 594 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: are conflict of verse, Like when they want to fire someone, 595 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: they have their agent do it, like and that's Tigers 596 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: thing all the way, right, Like he always has someone 597 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: else to deliver the bad news. He wants to break 598 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: up with his girlfriend, he gets one of his underlings 599 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: to trigger and going on vacation like but in Clouds, 600 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: like Brooks called me. You know, Brooks did it himself, 601 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: and he had a weird respect you know, grudging resp 602 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: back for it. And I thought that was funny. I mean, 603 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: I think Brooks is old school in a lot of ways. 604 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: He kind of lives by by a code and he 605 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: can be a little strident, but I think that comes 606 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: from actually kind of being real, Like he does have 607 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: a he has a value system, and he's intensely loyal 608 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: and he does care and winning means something to him. 609 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: Being great means something to him, and he can he 610 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: can shut down in the interview settings. He can be 611 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: a little standoffice. But I don't think that, you know, 612 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: if you fall on social media. He was like a 613 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: fun loving guy, like he's always not having a good time, 614 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: and I think he's kind of learned. He got put 615 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: into this role and when it comes to deal with 616 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: the golf press and if it's just become like this 617 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: little run he falls into and a lot of people 618 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: have kind of made up their minds about who he is. 619 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: But I think he's probably right that there's there's more 620 00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: complexity there than we've really seen. Mm. Interesting. Yeah, all right, 621 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: a couple of things before we go. Shout out to 622 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: John Rom a couple of back to back Birdie's. He's 623 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: within three of Kepka. I mean that is a pretty 624 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: smash mouth Saturday Final pairing. If it holds up Brooks 625 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: and John Rom, I think these are these are big, 626 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: bad almbres. And there's a lot of clubhead speed, it's 627 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot of it's a lot of mojo. Like that's 628 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: that's pretty epic. I'm excited about that, Yes, But over 629 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: the course of thirty six holes triumph, but each of 630 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: them trying to win their first green coat. I'll take 631 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: a guy with this relatively slow backswing over a guy 632 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: with a fast back swing one hundred times out of 633 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: one hundred, with all due respect to my friend Nick Price, 634 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: who is one of my favorite people in the world. 635 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: But a quick back swinging Hubert Green. You know it 636 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: does happen, but it's hard, hard, hard. I think Sunday 637 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: golf with quick back swing is hard. I'll take Phil Jack, Julius, Barrows, Snead, 638 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: and a long long list of guys with languid back 639 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: swings first. This is why you're such a national treasure 640 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: of Michael. Thank you for that. And we do have 641 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: to acknowledge Sam Bennett. I mean, what he's done is incredible. 642 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: He's in third place, eight under par. He made no 643 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: bogies in his first round, first time an amateur had 644 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: done that in like fifty plus years. His two round 645 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: total of one thirty five is just one off of 646 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: Kenn Venturrey's all time record. I mean, spectacular performance. And 647 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: if you know, Ryan Labner of Golf Channel wrote an 648 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: incredible feature about the kid, spent a lot time with him. 649 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: In his family, and I didn't really know his backstory, 650 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: but you know, Bennett's father Got was like a beloved 651 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: figure in the community. He was a I think he 652 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: was a doctor at Dennis. I can't remember now, but 653 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, an educated, you know man doing important work. 654 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: And he got early onset dementia and Alzheimer's like his 655 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: early forties. Just and it just it just wrecked the family, 656 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: as it would any family, and kind of left a 657 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: whole at Sam Bennett's heart and he had to through 658 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: all of that. And he was also a very undersized 659 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: kid and you know, lightly recruited, it seemed like, and 660 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: then he had a gross spurt and but a really 661 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: easy guy to root for. I would encourage anyone to read. 662 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: It's an emotional story, and uh, you'll you'll you'll want 663 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: to pull for this kid. But also, you know, I 664 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: always pick up on these things. He was a short 665 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: stop and he was like a point guard growing up, 666 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: and he was good. That's that's a Jordan's Spee kind 667 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: of background. But that's Dustin Johnson, like Augusta Nashville rewards 668 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,479 Speaker 1: the athletes because and Jeff what will. We talked about 669 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: this beautifully on our podcast last night. I was going 670 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: to make the point, but the conversation moved on. But 671 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: you never have a flat shot out here. It's very 672 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: much reactionary golf. You have to get in a funky 673 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: position and just have to swing at it. And it's 674 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: not track man golf. Or you hit the same make 675 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,320 Speaker 1: the same swing and hit the same distance, and you 676 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: gotta shape it and you gotta play it off swales. 677 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: And there's something about this place. You know, Jack Jack 678 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: Nicholas is a great tennis player, right, a basketball player 679 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 1: like Sam Snee, like those. It just there's every golfer 680 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: this level has athletic tools, but it seems like the 681 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: guys who played a lot of sports and who have 682 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: a different gear, it just rewards that. And this kid, 683 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: Bennett is of that, of that ilk. Just one quick 684 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 1: note about about Ben is that you grew up playing 685 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: a little nine hole course. It shows it. You don't 686 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: have to be from a super affluent family and have 687 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: you know one of the Claude Harmon's coaching you to 688 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: make it in this game. There are a lot of 689 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: different paths there, and there's absolutely nothing like athleticism to 690 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: really make it in the game. At the end of 691 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: the day. Golf identifies athleticism, and this course most especially 692 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: especially all those greenside shots that don't look like they 693 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: requires so much strength, and maybe they don't, but they 694 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: really do require athleticism. Yeah, and it's because speed. I 695 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: hit two balls in the water through the first round. 696 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: But he's hanging around, He's tied for six. Who've got 697 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 1: Jason Day, Sam burn In, Strictor holland Colin Moray Cow. 698 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it is a blockbuster, Cameron Young, It is 699 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: a blockbuster leaderboard. So but most of the guys who 700 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: are looking to win their first coat and that's hard. 701 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: And then and Brooks falls into that. I mean, we've 702 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: talked about this previous It's the most tantalizing of all 703 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: the tournament. It's the one they all want the most. 704 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: And the choke factor, I mean, wasn't Johnny Millers that 705 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: you start choking when when you drive down Magnolia Lay 706 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: Like it's a grand quote, you know. So it's gonna 707 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: be one hell of thirty six holes. I would encourage 708 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: everyone to drink some hot chocolate, get bundled up in 709 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: their living rooms, like out of empathy. For the rest 710 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: of it. It's going to be called a nasty tar. 711 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait. I love that stuff. It's gonna be 712 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: an absolute war of attrition and uh and then it's 713 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: gonna probably be a shoot out on Sunday on a 714 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: soft golf course. So it's good for us on because 715 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: we never figured out the air conditioning in our house, 716 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: but we're not gonna need it. Michael's running in the 717 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: middle of the night. It was it was like the 718 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: ghost of Christmas path Like I could hear bang it 719 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: on the Thervis stat and then I was I was 720 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: still sleeping and he was doing dishes and it was 721 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: quite a rookie. It's like, but it's worth the suffering, Michaels, 722 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: so we can podcast like this together. So anyway, thanks 723 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: all of you for listening. That's going to because the 724 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: National Golf Club for lending us this room. Despite all 725 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: the nasty things we said at the beginning, you really 726 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: do run, Honest to God, you run a great invitational tournament. 727 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: It adds a lot to my life. I know you're 728 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: light blan, I know our listener feels the same way. 729 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: It is a joy, but we gotta pick it. We 730 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: gotta pick out it a little bit. But it's such 731 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: a delight. I mean, it's a complete third delight to 732 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: be here covering this golf tournament. And I do really 733 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: take that view. I take the view that it's a 734 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: private golf club. They put on a tournament, they invite 735 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: people to play, they invite us to cover it. Yes, 736 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: it's quasi public, of course, but it's quasi pup private too. 737 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: It's a weird, weird blend of things, and it's a 738 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: great addition, of course to the golf calendar, and it 739 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: brings a lot of pleasure to a lot of people. 740 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: That's well said. I know no one cares about our 741 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: first real problems of trying to report effectively, So would 742 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: I'd like to apologize not for the content in my remarks, 743 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: but just for my tone of voice. You're right now. Honestly, 744 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's I don't think this is 745 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: be necessary to apologize, because this our job is to 746 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: describe the whole experience. But it is. I guess we're 747 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: trying to say the same thing that it's great to 748 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: be here, and you know, there's a lot of civil 749 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: unrest and violence in this world, and we're covering a 750 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: golf tournament. On that note, let's go get a peach 751 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: ice cream silence and start typing. So thanks to everybody 752 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: for listening. We will do a big blowout on Sunday 753 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: when this is over. Jeff I will be back for 754 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: that one and it'll be fun to see how this 755 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: all plays out. So until then, lots of good stories 756 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: on fire Pitclint dot com, and we appreciate your fidelity 757 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: reading and listening. And if you want something to watch, 758 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: we do have a rind episode the Futures Lard Shepherd 759 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: the British Amerge Champio. We follow them from the snowy 760 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: driving ranges of Scotland all the way down Magnolia Lane. 761 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: We got to play in the Masters last year and 762 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: so it's a really charming episode. We haven't checked it out. 763 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: I would strongly encourage it. So until then, thanks thanks 764 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: for listening, and we're back into ear soon. That's the end. 765 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: I be big and played the win, made a fortune, 766 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: win my ship game. I ran the table, never thought 767 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: I could fall. Then the winter time hit me like 768 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: a cannon ball and now I can't shake this losing 769 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: the stream. Every road I take is a dead end stream. 770 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: I got thoughts in my head, can't get them out. 771 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: Join nothing what I'm thinking about. I got thoughts in 772 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: my head. I can't get them out. J I think 773 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about