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Speaker 1: Listen to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because Roden Karener.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of The black Out to

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Speaker 2: his podcast. I am your host, Rod, joined us always

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Speaker 2: by my co host Karen, and we are live on

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Speaker 2: a Monday, ready to do some podcasting. Took yesterday off.

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Speaker 2: You know how it is, you know how it be,

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Speaker 2: you know how I do.

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Speaker 1: But we're back.

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Speaker 2: Were ready to do some podcasts and find us everywhere

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Speaker 2: you get podcasts.

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Speaker 1: The official weapon of the.

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Speaker 2: Show is an unofficial sport, a bullet ball.

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Speaker 1: Extreme extreme. We're extreme and uh, you know how it is.

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Speaker 2: As we're back, it's time to get right back into

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Speaker 2: the grind and what we do here, and it's time

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Speaker 2: to talk about coronavirus again.

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Speaker 1: Look here we go again. We got very yans.

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Speaker 3: Really need to keep a mask on hand and follow

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Speaker 3: the plan, get the vaccine and second shots. Whether woman

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Speaker 3: the Man black Out Who Tips is doing their part,

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Speaker 3: but the dumbies expand niggas would rather believe a bunch

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Speaker 3: of misinformation. Fuck y'all idiots not getting shots now. We

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Speaker 3: gotta regrets. If we keep going in this direction, we

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Speaker 3: never can rest, never can't get back to the last

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Speaker 3: we be living the best. Damn fool stopped the lion,

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Speaker 3: stopped the intubation, crying because it's your fucking motherfucker's dying.

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Speaker 3: Damn fool stopped the lions, stopped the ventilator, crying because

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Speaker 3: it's your fucking motherfucker's dying.

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Speaker 1: I do not understand this shit. I'm not a fan

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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 3: We were like one win from the Pandemic Championship. The

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Speaker 3: fuckers want to leave it to Game seven with Yanni

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Speaker 3: stelf to coop Pope flocking forward progression in Chris Middle

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Speaker 3: fingers to your plans Man team.

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Speaker 1: Looks like it's no Drew Holiday for you and your.

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Speaker 3: Man some stick of black people dying for rep So

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Speaker 3: I'm just writing this moist to let you know how

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Speaker 3: I feel. Coronavirus. Fuck that COVID nineteen is unseen. It's

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Speaker 3: creeping in the air for you to breathe. Yeah, huh so,

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Speaker 3: fuck that COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 4: It is unseen.

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Speaker 1: It's creeping in the air for you to breathe, yeainus

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Speaker 1: uh yeah.

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Speaker 2: As a heads up, I forgot to mention we don't

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Speaker 2: plan on doing the Walking Dead and Game of Thrones

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Speaker 2: at the same time.

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Speaker 4: We was talking about that last night, because they normally

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Speaker 4: do not air at the same time.

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Speaker 2: It's just too much work because for every recap that

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Speaker 2: I do, it's you know, notes and copious notes and

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Speaker 2: rewatches and all this ship and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: do that twice for and then I'm also doing Atlanta

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Speaker 2: with BOSSI, So it just feels like I'm reviewing too

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Speaker 2: much TV. So uh yeah, we'll be doing those probably

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Speaker 2: after the Game of Throne season. We'll go back and

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Speaker 2: watch one episode at a time and do our recap.

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Speaker 2: So just letting you guys know as it heads up.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about coronavirus news. COVID will be

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Speaker 2: the leading cause of death in the US indefinitely, whether

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Speaker 2: or not the pandemic is over, well, goddamn yeah, I

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Speaker 2: said the I mean a a leading calls. Sorry, after

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Speaker 2: President jo.

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Speaker 4: Taking people out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically, disease xperts are saying, you know, is it is?

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Speaker 1: Can you even say the pandemic is over? Really?

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Speaker 2: You know, like the unspoken part of that is the

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Speaker 2: end and the endemics is upon us. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: likely that when we think of cause of death in

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Speaker 2: our society that COVID is on the list. Probably forever,

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Speaker 2: said doctor Bob watched her, the chair of the of

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Speaker 2: the University of California, San Francisco's Department of Medicine. Whether

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Speaker 2: we call it a pandemic or not, it's still an

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Speaker 2: important threat to.

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Speaker 1: People, agreed.

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Speaker 2: It was the third leading cause of death in the

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Speaker 2: according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The

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Speaker 2: same was true last year. So yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: it's like we're saying it's over, But.

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Speaker 1: Is it over?

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Speaker 2: If this will be the cause of death for people

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Speaker 1: Long we live, and it'll be at the top whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'd be at the top five and it ain't five.

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Speaker 4: And also one of those things. Truthfully, maybe it's just

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Speaker 1: Going your well, you say some of those years, there's only.

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Speaker 2: Two, well, twenty twenty and twenty twenty one so far,

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Speaker 2: So you know, you're saying it was the number one

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Speaker 1: Possibly.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm not saying you're wrong, but you just

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Speaker 2: said some of those years, there's only two.

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Speaker 1: Years, so either it was or it wasn't. Last year

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Speaker 2: Coming make time feel like it's in fucking five. I'm sorry, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it would not be surprising if we got like

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's definitely going to fall if and

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Speaker 2: on some levels. So I guess we'll find out. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it does seem like it's here to stay, and you know,

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's just slower than we you know, would hope,

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Speaker 2: but I definitely don't feel like it's over yet, and

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Speaker 2: just the data and the evidence that I'm reading in

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Speaker 2: these articles, they don't seem it doesn't seem to to

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Speaker 2: me intimate that it's over.

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Speaker 1: As much as we're now living.

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Speaker 2: Unsafer that's not a word, probably, but we're living more

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Speaker 2: With motherfuckers being like, we don't give a fuck about

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Speaker 2: And I've been outside that seems to be how people

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Speaker 4: And also is one of the things to where I'm

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Speaker 4: glad we got scientists that are actually following these things

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Speaker 4: and doing the trends and stuff like that, you know,

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Speaker 4: telling you but it's less in my opinion, it's less

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Speaker 4: of the numbers are going down. But also a lot

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Speaker 4: of people have said fuck it and they've been on

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Speaker 4: tired versus the pandemic actually ending.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: I think the numbers can't be avoided, though, specifically the

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Speaker 2: numbers of hospitalizations and depths. Agree those you know, I

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Speaker 1: I don't think testing is being tracked as much.

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, especially now that people can kind

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Speaker 1: It's not like a government thing.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, Duke study finds a link between severe COVID

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Speaker 2: get COVID and then later on people have issues with

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Speaker 1: You know. Obviously we know about long term COVID.

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Speaker 2: And some of that stuff too, So people hospitalized the

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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen may have higher heart failure rests. Duke study says,

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Speaker 4: Ye a possibility. And you know, it's one of these

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Speaker 4: y'all numbers out there, I understand that I comprehend, like like,

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Speaker 4: that's that's as far as I'm gonna go right now.

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Speaker 4: I understand that I comprehend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well understanding comprehend what do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I understand the numbers and statistics, and I comprehend

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Speaker 4: the numbers and statistics. But the way I feel about

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Speaker 4: certain things still, I probably would feel about COVID the

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Speaker 4: as far as I will continue to still to wear

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Speaker 2: And just yeah, what is this article I had to

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Speaker 2: do it that though nothing. I feel like, so should

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Speaker 2: we stop doing this segment? I feel like every time

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Speaker 2: not leaving the house. I'm not not wearing my mask.

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Speaker 1: We're not We're gonna talk about the article.

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Speaker 2: We just gonna talk about how you feel because I mean,

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Speaker 2: we can. We can stop doing this if you don't

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Speaker 4: No, we said, I think it's it's important to cover

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Speaker 4: this because these numbers and stats do matter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't a segment of me trying to conc

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Speaker 2: No one said anything about you not wearing a mask.

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Speaker 2: I know, no one ever does in this segment, and

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Speaker 2: yet we always come right like this. I don't even

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Speaker 2: just I'm just trying to do the news. I want

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Speaker 2: to cover it, you know, but you can do the news, Okay.

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Speaker 4: I'm just internally triggered. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, gotta get some therapy or something. I

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Speaker 2: do have no, no, no, for real, not talking about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: what this segments about. Nope, all right, so yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: people hospitalized of COVID nineteen may have had a higher

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Speaker 2: risk of heart failure. They said it was something like

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Speaker 2: they did. They did a study of four hundred, five

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty thousand. No, it's a study, but they

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Speaker 2: used hospital records, these patient records. Okay, so it's not

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Speaker 2: like with a control group and the stuff that people think.

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Speaker 2: But five hundred and eighty thousand patients were admitted to

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Speaker 2: something other than COVID. It's the first to look at

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Speaker 2: this question in a large, racially diverse population. The paper

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Speaker 4: to normal. How when you go into the office, one

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Speaker 4: person go down, then everybody around them go down, you

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Speaker 4: know type of thing. So it's going to be kind

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Speaker 4: of back to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Australia just had their worst flu season in five

443
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Speaker 2: years and normally that foreshadows what happens in the Northern Hemisphere.

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Speaker 2: So like if that's the Southern Hemishire, what that flu

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Speaker 2: would all that stuff that is a that's a that's

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Speaker 2: a portent of what can come to us.

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Speaker 1: So yeah too, dog.

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Speaker 4: I got my flu shot and whenever it's time to

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Speaker 4: get another one, six months, three months, whatever, I'll be

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Speaker 4: back over there to get that.

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Speaker 2: I do have to like, I hear this all the time,

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Speaker 2: and I and I do I don't understand the logic

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Speaker 2: of it, and I do have to wonder. But like

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Speaker 2: the people that like get tired at a certain point,

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Speaker 2: but that's not a logic to it, Like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: got my I got one booster, I got you know,

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Speaker 2: I got the I got the booster. Why should I

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Speaker 2: have to get the flu shot? And you're just like,

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Speaker 2: how does that make sense to you? Like meant like mathematically,

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Speaker 2: just how would that makes sense? It's just like yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's it's so weird when you hear it's like.

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Speaker 4: Because it logically it doesn't make no sense.

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Speaker 2: It's the same reason to get both of them. But

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Speaker 2: I hear it all the time though. It's I mean, smart.

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Speaker 1: People are like, oh, I gotta get both. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do, I mean all right.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah that for two different things.

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Speaker 2: It's like they're shooting up the block and it's like

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Speaker 2: I gotta get a bulletproof vest and I.

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Speaker 1: Gotta get a bulletproof car. Like, yeah, they're shooting up ship.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, because you don't want to funk around

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Speaker 2: to catch buff at the same time. Yeah, so all right,

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Speaker 2: let's get into some other news. Let's do some LGBTQ news.

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Speaker 1: Oh I played the wrong one again. Oh well, let's

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Speaker 1: play it out.

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Speaker 2: Fuck it, Okay, all right, lgbt Q news.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Marriage quality wins in Cuba come on as voters approve

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Speaker 2: LGBTQ measures. Religious groups helped stop a similar vote in

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: This year, they weren't successful.

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Speaker 2: Good for them from overcoming that. It's funny because Cuba

483
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 2: is one of those things places where online in theory,

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Speaker 2: people are always talking touting them as the example of

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Speaker 2: like socialism and all this great stuff, but then we

486
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Speaker 2: never you know, I've heard from I remember this a

487
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Speaker 2: podcast where it was from people who from Cuba that

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Speaker 2: lived in Cuba and they were activists, and they was like,

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Speaker 2: I'm sick of Americans using us as like a fucking

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Speaker 2: cudgel to bludging each other with on the goods and

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Speaker 2: the evils of socialism, because we have our own problems,

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Speaker 2: and you either have people that ignore problems because they're

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Speaker 2: like it's inconvenient to point out that they still have

494
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Speaker 2: certain societal issues, or you have people that escalate our

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Speaker 2: problems when they talk about us to be like and

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Speaker 2: that's why socialism is bad. But really we're just we're

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Speaker 2: and we're doing we got complex issues.

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Speaker 1: And stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Well, but yeah, sixty seven percent of voters in the

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Speaker 2: September twenty fifth referendum supported the measures as part of

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Speaker 2: updating the Islands nations four decades old family code is

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Speaker 2: unclear when the revised code were going to effect, though

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Speaker 2: the newly reformed code will allow surrogate pregnancies, give greater

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Speaker 2: parental rights for grandparents, extended and non traditional families outlaw

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Speaker 2: various forms of child abuse, offer enhanced protections for women

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Speaker 2: and elderly people targeted by violence, and forbid people from

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Speaker 2: encouraging minors not to fulfill their duties related to respect

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Speaker 2: for and love of the homeland.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that was about.

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Speaker 2: The vote was noteworthy because Cuban government has only held

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Speaker 2: public referendums to shape this laws three other times since

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Speaker 2: the country's nineteen fifty nine revolution. So yeah, I guess

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Speaker 2: that's it's good to people get marriage equality.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know what the lasts. I mean, but

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Speaker 4: the rest of them sound like they're good things too.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Thousands take to the street in Serbia to protest LGBTQ

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Speaker 2: rights as president tries to cancel Europride.

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Speaker 4: Oh so they have their own Pride thing over there,

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Speaker 4: I guess.

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Speaker 1: Oh Europride.

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Speaker 4: You ever heard of that?

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Speaker 1: Erode? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sunday in Belgrade, a massive rally took over the Serbian capital,

525
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Speaker 2: protesting a pan European Pride event that had already been canceled.

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Speaker 2: The march was met led by Serbian Orthodox Church and

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Speaker 2: joined by a collection of right wing hate groups and

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Speaker 2: pro Russian nationalists. It's funny how like the church don't

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Speaker 2: care about the company they keep.

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Speaker 1: When it's like we're against this.

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Speaker 2: Also, our right wing hate groups will be out here

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Speaker 2: marching with us and pro Russian nationalists. Okay, hey, look

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Speaker 2: it's the Nazi party. Guys clearly went on the right

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Speaker 2: side of this.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The bishop warned that event was a threat to traditional

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Speaker 2: family values. This one always gets me. What the fuck

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Speaker 2: is the threat to traditional family values?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like? What what is the actual threat? Like, what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 4: Nothing?

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Speaker 1: Because I feel like what they're.

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Speaker 2: Really saying is your kids gonna find out they could

544
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Speaker 2: be It's okay to be gay. It's okay not to

545
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Speaker 2: hate themselves for their sexuality or their gender orientation. You know,

546
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Speaker 2: it's okay to not hate themselves. And that is a

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Speaker 2: threat because we need complete mental and physical control over

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Speaker 2: our families at all time to make them do what

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Speaker 2: the fuck we tell them to do.

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Speaker 1: Because if they find out that there's another way.

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Speaker 2: To live and be happy, that they you can't even

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Speaker 2: march because your marches look too fucking happy unicorns and

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Speaker 2: rainbows and glows sticks and they let off. Everyone's looking

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Speaker 2: sexy and having fun and got mascots and ship roller skates.

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Speaker 1: What if my children see this and go, I don't

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Speaker 1: have to live this. Wait, you tell me to live?

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Speaker 4: What do we got khaki pants and sit in that lamps?

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Speaker 4: This is not the same.

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Speaker 2: What if my wife finds out she could actually be

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Speaker 2: having orgasms with another woman.

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Speaker 1: I don't need this. This is a threat to my

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Speaker 1: family traditional value. So stupid. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Protests displayed crosses the other religious iconography while carrying anti

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Speaker 2: LGBTQ signs declaring save our children. The day before the

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Speaker 2: President of Survey announced plans to cancel the year of

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Speaker 2: pride in the city, using the excuse that there's just.

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Speaker 1: Too much going on. He didn't even bother come on

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Speaker 1: with a real excuse. What there's just too much going on?

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Speaker 1: That's what I said when we're just busy. That's what

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Speaker 1: I say when I don't want to go to my

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Speaker 1: friend's party.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got too much going on.

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Speaker 1: It was just too much going on in details what

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Speaker 1: I got.

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Speaker 4: I don't got time for your little details.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Imagine, Hey, we having a Black History Month March this week.

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Speaker 1: Oh y'all can't have that?

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Speaker 4: Why what?

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Speaker 1: What happen? Too much going on?

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Speaker 2: It's just a lot. Oh my god, Oh my god,

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00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: it's just so much. I can't even go into details.

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Speaker 1: It's just know you're a pride this year. This something

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Speaker 1: happened to we did something. It's just.

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Speaker 2: It's just so much, you know. I it's crazy. I

586
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Speaker 2: can't even come up with.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy to me too.

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Speaker 2: Just no martching, no watching, That's all we were saying.

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00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: So maybe next year if we can calm things down. Well,

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Speaker 2: what I mean, September twelfth to eighteenth, that's six days.

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00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: It's something it's going on every day. Well, you know,

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00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: on the twelfth, I got that Dinnis appointment, so y'all,

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Speaker 2: I can't have a little march.

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Speaker 4: On the fourteenth. I took a pto day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know, I don't tell you.

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Speaker 2: I'm supposed to take a half day, but I'm folk

597
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Speaker 2: to go see the Woman King.

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Speaker 1: So I can't you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: If that movie when it came out, though, my kids

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Speaker 2: guest soccer practice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, President foulshit.

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00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Cannot cancel someone else's events, said Christine Garanta, the president

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Speaker 2: of European Pride Organizers Association.

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Speaker 1: The right to hold a pride.

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Speaker 2: Has been ruled by the European Court of Human Rights

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Speaker 2: to be a fundamental human right. Boush just made the

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Speaker 2: announcer at a press conference where he also proposed extending

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Speaker 2: the term of Prime Minister and a run up Big

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Speaker 2: who was a lesbian who's been in office since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Elpa's Guardaneria called on her to honor a player.

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Speaker 1: Supporting the festival and reverse course.

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Speaker 2: But the president and a bron it's b r n

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Speaker 2: a big Brennabick has been accused of not doing enough

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Speaker 2: to advance LGBTQ rights in service since assuming office, so

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Speaker 2: oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: But shout out to the people trying to fight back.

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Speaker 1: But motherfuckers take it to the streets to be like,

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Speaker 1: y'all not gonna be gay. Here's wold take.

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Speaker 4: Yes it is.

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Speaker 1: Little Boote.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he is asking for black people to boycott Netflix

622
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Dahmer series, Why well, you know Little Boozy as

623
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: the man who is very homophobic and transphobic, misgenders Dwayne

624
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Speaker 2: Wade's daughter and says, y'all gonna cut that little boy

625
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: dick off. Stuff like that not exactly.

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Speaker 1: What I would call it an our lie or maybe.

627
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems to be a very bigotan man that

628
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: is very hateful towards LGBTQ people in a way that

629
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Speaker 2: is more popular than his music even I would say

630
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Speaker 2: if you went into at least in the places I know,

631
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Speaker 2: maybe somebody else checks for his music like that. But

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Speaker 2: I feel like if you ask people, you know, what's

633
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Speaker 2: the last thing they remember about Little Boosy, it's either

634
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Speaker 2: gonna be white me down or all this fucking bigotry.

635
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Speaker 2: And yeah, he hasn't really given us a lot of

636
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Speaker 2: a lot a lot, Yeah, he has really given us

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Speaker 2: a lot to stand for.

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Speaker 1: If you know what I'm saying.

639
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: But he said, as black people, we should boycott the

640
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Dahmer movie.

641
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: What he did to our black.

642
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: Kids is fucking sick. Hashtag Netflix take this movie down.

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00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: It's sick.

644
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: I personally would guess that he really just is not

645
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Speaker 2: comfortable with the idea.

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Speaker 1: Of gay black people period from the way that.

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Speaker 4: He Okay, because I haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen it's I mean, I mean as a

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Speaker 2: bigger conversation that I think I kind of had with

650
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Speaker 2: Justin behind the Paywall a little bit.

651
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Speaker 1: I saw those series. I think it's phenomenal. I think

652
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Speaker 1: it's one of the best things I've seen streaming on

653
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Speaker 1: TV this year. Period.

654
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Is disturbing and all that stuff, but it disturbing in

655
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Speaker 2: the way that it should be disturbing. I think we're

656
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Speaker 2: at this point where people do shit like talk about

657
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: emotions they experienced while watching stuff, but then forget that

658
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: that's what the fucking show is trying to elicit those emotions.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the show wants you to feel comfortable.

661
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Speaker 1: It doesn't. It's not glorifying this guy.

662
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: It's not glamorizing his killings.

663
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: It's not lionizing Jeffrey Dahmer.

664
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: It's very, very sensitive to the victims and their families

665
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: in a way that is really been unfairly maligned on

666
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: social media. It's sad to see, but it feels like

667
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: that thing where it's just the Internet power on culture

668
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: and you know they're doing this with the Blonde movie.

669
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: It's this whole like this shouldn't exist or whatever.

670
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: But uh, episode six definitely the best thing I've seen

671
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: on TV this year period.

672
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: I don't even know if anything else is closed. And

673
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: then as far.

674
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: As just the thought they put into it, like the

675
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: first five episodes is probably covering like him being a

676
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: serial killer and stuff, and it's interspersed. It's not that graphic,

677
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: to be honest, But episodes like six through ten, which

678
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: is the second half of a ten episode series, it's

679
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 2: basically all about the victims, their families and the failure

680
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 2: of our criminal justice system to get this man and

681
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: how he was allowed to be a monster, and pray

682
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: on us, on our culture, on our people, on our

683
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 2: society because of the ineptitude of others and the white

684
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: privilege that he had.

685
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: He was not The show.

686
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't make him smart, sneaky, crafty, a genius, eccentric, It

687
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: doesn't do and it's just he's just a guy. It's

688
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: just a dude that that that really would have been

689
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: caught if anybody with any position of authority would have

690
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: done their job and gave a fuck. Okay, And so

691
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: unfortunately a lot of people in these days and ages,

692
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's like what I say with Game of

693
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: Thrones and why no offense to the fans, But I

694
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: don't like when y'all send feedback before we have our

695
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 2: chance to do our recap, because so much of what

696
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: we what passes for discussion these days, is about us

697
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: and our reaction. And it's the bar is getting so low.

698
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: You don't even have to consume the content. You don't

699
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: have to see it. It's just like I am triggered

700
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: by the thought of this, and it's like, okay, well, congratulations,

701
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

702
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't know you. You're that's not important to me.

703
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: It can be important to you and the people that

704
00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: you know.

705
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 2: And care about, But in general, that's the lowest bar,

706
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: because we're now getting triggered by the idea of approaching

707
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: the concept, not even the constant, not even it's you

708
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 2: know the content itself, and it's being used to stifle

709
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: conversation in a way that I find extremely unhelpful. But

710
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: it's also being used to stifle art and creativity. It's

711
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 2: you know, it's why you know when I remember when

712
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: them came out on Amazon Prime and I was like,

713
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 2: oh man, everybody says it's bad.

714
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna watch it. And now watching it,

715
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: I was.

716
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: Like, this is fun, this is great. I loved it.

717
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: It's actually really well done. This is not what y'all

718
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: said it was. I only have a problem with artists

719
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: that do like stuff. I have a problem with sloppy shit,

720
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: like where something shocking happens on the screen and it's

721
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: not registered and it wasn't intended.

722
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: That to me is the height of laziness. But that's

723
00:36:59,120 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: not this.

724
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: Every everything in this series was carefully considered, and I

725
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 2: really think people should look at a guy like Boothy

726
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: being on their side and be like, maybe I had

727
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: this one wrong. Because if this motherfucker I don't want

728
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: you to watch it, it ain't because he cares so

729
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: much about gay black people, we know he don't right.

730
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: And also to be gebag on what you're saying, people

731
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 4: who says just the idea of things trigger something within them,

732
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: which it's supposed to. But just because it triggers something

733
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: in you, people now are like, because it triggers something

734
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 4: in me, this does not have the right to exist. Yes,

735
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: And I have a problem with that, And that's very

736
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 4: dangerous because a lot of times, particularly when black and

737
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: brown and a lot of modulized people do that, you

738
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: actually push and support right supremacy, whether you know it

739
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: or not, because they feel the same way you know

740
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: you are. Literally don't one accord with them. It's okay

741
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: for things to trigger you. It's okay for you to

742
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: not like it, it's okay for you not to consume it,

743
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 4: but it does not mean it doesn't have the right

744
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: to exist. And that's the problem. I come up like, like,

745
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 4: that's what I draw my line, because there are things

746
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 4: that are actually really really good that can be made.

747
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: But because people go, well, I'm triggered, it shouldn't have

748
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: the right to exist.

749
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: Well, also does I hate to cut you off, but

750
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: I'll go even further. I don't believe them. I think

751
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: people are lying about some of this stuff, not all

752
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 2: of it, but like, cause keep in mind, I didn't

753
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: say everyone needs to go watch it.

754
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: No one's saying that.

755
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: No, no one's like if you're a bad black person

756
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: if you don't watch it. I think the insecurity within

757
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: certain black folks that make a living talking about black shit,

758
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: it pops out and they go, I'm boycotting this, so

759
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm not watching this because but it's like, nah, you

760
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 2: don't even have to do all that. If this ain't

761
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: your genre, don't watch it, right, But if you watch

762
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: like Versace, which is also by Ryan Murphy, then yeah,

763
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: this is just the same. Weaponizing the victims is to me,

764
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 2: some of the most lowest shit I've ever seen in

765
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: my life. Like it's it's it's enraging because these people

766
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: don't care about those families either.

767
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: And they went and found like one.

768
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: Person who is related to somebody, and we're getting like

769
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: third party information and being like, and this is why

770
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: I ain't watching it.

771
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: You just weren't gonna watch it. Now you're just you.

772
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: Know, it's it's like when uh so, it's like you

773
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: don't even believe that because you don't do that for

774
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: anybody else. We didn't go see what ron Ron Goldman

775
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 2: has never wanted us to watch a single thing about

776
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: oj Ron Goldman. Anything to come out. Every time something

777
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: come out, he said, fuck that, nigga. He's to be like, nope, nope, no, no,

778
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: don't want us to watch it, and no one cares.

779
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: The people live tweeted the fuck out of that.

780
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: Set the OJ Ryan Murphy series OJ made in America.

781
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: We did not care. We we don't care.

782
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: That's the real truth as far as it being like

783
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: we're we're us watching this is disrespectful. All the memes

784
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: and the jokes and the lauded performances.

785
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: And the accolades and the we did not care.

786
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: So it's kind of hypocritical to me to pull this

787
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: one out like, well now we have to consider this.

788
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you just don't want to watch it.

789
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: I remember how people felt it was so important that

790
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: Aba Duverne do uh the the the exonerated was five

791
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: she so they thought it was so important that she

792
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: do this, this this this series. And then motherfuckers ain't

793
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 2: watch it right because it is it is triggering, it

794
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: is traumatic, it is all those things. But rather than

795
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: just admitt it, it becomes Abra Duverne is a peddler

796
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: of black trauma. It's like, why are y'all doing this?

797
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: Just say you don't want to watch it? It's you're

798
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: not a bad black person, no one. There's not like

799
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: a mythical report card that is being reported on you

800
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 2: not watching this.

801
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not required to and everything that comes out,

802
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: you're not required to watch it. You don't have to

803
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 4: watch it.

804
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: But I think you know, people are.

805
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: This story is important, it needs to be told and

806
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: it's and every time someone goes, haven't we had enough

807
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: of this content?

808
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: Actually?

809
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: No, what are all the Jeffrey Dahmer contents that you're

810
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: talking about? An episode of a documentary series or something.

811
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 2: We're not drowning in Jeffrey Dahmer content, if anything, that

812
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: hasn't been a spotlight put on them because there's a

813
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: shame around the fact that these black people were gay,

814
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: and we don't want to talk about their lives. We

815
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: don't want to see them as people and human. People

816
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: like Boosy Badass do not care about representation of gay

817
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: people in that way. He would like it to not

818
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 2: be talked about, so he don't have to talk about

819
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: gay black people period, you know, And I think people

820
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: should look at that, and that's part of it too.

821
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 2: Just there's I guess my point is there's more than

822
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: one way to view it, and it doesn't make you

823
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: a bad person to go, yeah, it's good, it's well done.

824
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna detegrate Ryan Murphy. A lot of black actors,

825
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: a lot of LGBTQ people were involved in the making

826
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 2: of this fucking series, wrote episodes and stuff like that.

827
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 2: You can look at the credits and see like like

828
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: this was handled with care, you know. And I'm saying

829
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 2: as a person that saw it, it was handled with care.

830
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: And when you see somebody like Boosy on the other side.

831
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: Of that, I'm glad I watched it. It was well done.

832
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: But I watched stuff like this. Oh yeah, so so

833
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: like this isn't a.

834
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: Y'all need to watch it or you ain't, you know,

835
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: Like I think that's what people hear, Even when you

836
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: don't say it, they hear their feelings come.

837
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: Up and they go, are you saying I need to

838
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: watch it?

839
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 4: But I'm a bad You know what I'm saying.

840
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 2: If you watched it and it's and you enjoy it it,

841
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: I put it like this, it is good if you

842
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: watch it, you and you are into this kind of stuff,

843
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: you will probably enjoy it and enjoy it in they

844
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: it was well done.

845
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: They cared.

846
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 2: You know, I cried several times watching this thing because

847
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: they fucking I love when they see people as human.

848
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: It's not just like a story of like uh like

849
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: there's like like there's a something to the fact of

850
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: what was lost that a lot of times it's not

851
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: captured in these type of stories. You know, there's oh,

852
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: they killed this person, that was tragic, but there's very

853
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: few like this is the person this person was, This

854
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: is the way they were moving about the world, This

855
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: is their goals and aspirations, and this motherfucker took that

856
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: and this this show did that much better than other

857
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: shows I've watched.

858
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: Even the OJ stuff doesn't do that enough.

859
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: With Nicole and Roan Goldman, it's very just like these

860
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: were just the victims of this crime. So anyway, my

861
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: point being, Boosie ain't watched this. Oh no, Boozy's seen

862
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: the same social media people saying not to watch it

863
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 2: that everybody else did, and he ain't comfortable with no

864
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: gay shit, so he's like, Yep, don't watch it.

865
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's probably gonna.

866
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: Win awards and stuff just because it deserves them it's

867
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: well done. Maybe something else will show up, but the

868
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: victim thing is very interesting. I saw people sharing a

869
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: tweet going viral with black Twitter going what we need

870
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 2: is a Charles Dorner documentary. Charles Dorner is the black

871
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: guy in California that shot a bunch of police. He

872
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: was a former police officer experiencing racial discrimination.

873
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: He released a manifesto.

874
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: I remember black Twitter live tweeting his run from the

875
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: cops and his eventual death from the police, and the

876
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: giddiness of that betrays everybody. It was not serious, treated seriously.

877
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: It was treated as entertainment reality TV. And the fact

878
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: that people go, well, this is the documentary we make

879
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: we want is we want a documentary in their mind

880
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: because they this is how they view it. I don't

881
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 2: think it would be done this way if Ryan Murphy

882
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: did it. But they want a documentary celebrating cops getting

883
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: killed by a black man because in.

884
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: Their minds, it's just that easy and simple. Is this

885
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: that callous for them?

886
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: Which betrays everything they've been saying about how sensitive it is.

887
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: No one says we need to go find the victims

888
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 2: of those families of those police officers who were killed

889
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: and see if they're okay with it. Even the idea

890
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: of writing a check to the families.

891
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: That's that's ridiculous.

892
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: No one has done that, And this won't be the

893
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 2: first or the last show about something like this. You know,

894
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: I remember when the Ted Bundy documentary dropped in the

895
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 2: movie dropped people Black Twitter was laughing at the women, like,

896
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: this is the kind of man y'all do this?

897
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: Member, Yes, they did, Like it's.

898
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: Just the hypocrisy is so glaring.

899
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 2: I know everybody's human and you won't be empathetic, but

900
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: the way that people shut down the conversation by.

901
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: Pretending to care is such bullshit.

902
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: Because I've seen when you don't care agree and so

903
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: that's the thing I look at with Boosie. I've seen

904
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: you not care a lot. Don't try to act like

905
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 2: you care about the black community. Now, what you really

906
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 2: care is you don't want to see people to see

907
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: gay black people living, existing, being the victims of something

908
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: because you don't believe they can be victims, and you

909
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: victimize them every time, every day with your fucking words

910
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: and your existence. So like, I also to believe you

911
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: care so much about the community. What you probably care

912
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 2: what you see is hurting the black community.

913
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: Is that I did that.

914
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 2: The dirty laundry of black people being gay is out there, right,

915
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, so I think that's bullshit, But yeah, I

916
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 2: enjoyed it in a in a way of saying it's

917
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: well done, you know, and it didn't lie inize this man.

918
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: So hopefully people can hear this and at least get

919
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: another perspective, because I'm sure you've been inundated with the

920
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: don't watch it, don't watch it perspective, which is the

921
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: most like baseline. Let's shut down any level of discourse.

922
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: Let's make it into a value judgment of you're a

923
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: good or bad person rather than you know, an actual

924
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 2: the discussion of is it well done or not right?

925
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: Because these are things where stories about us have the

926
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 4: right to exist, regardless of if we are the victims

927
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: or regardless if we are the perpetrator. All these things,

928
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: they all have the right to exist, and art in

929
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: all these genres have the right to be made.

930
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Amina says, I think there's valid criticisms of the

931
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: genre of true crime. Yeah, that's fine, but there's nothing

932
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 2: about this particular series that will have something applied to

933
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: it that the other ones don't So that's so like,

934
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: if you're like this all the time. Sure, if you're

935
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: like I'm not watching Waco because it's about blah blah, cool,

936
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 2: you don't watch this thing. So that's not really a

937
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: criticism specific to this one. But if this is the

938
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: one that pitched you off, shut the fuck up. It's

939
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: really it's done better than the ones you're talking about.

940
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 2: If that is, if that is the criticism, and then

941
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: in addition to that, you're not gonna watch these anyway,

942
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: So what would it you see what I'm saying, Like,

943
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: I've seen people who watch that shit be like no,

944
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: but this one that's bullshit. That's all I'm saying. Like

945
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: it's a that that's not that nuanced of a point.

946
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it's that complicated if you have a problem.

947
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: I've been talked about true crime on the show and

948
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: stuff before us, Like, yeah, I can see all as

949
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: fucked up you know, white women talking about you know,

950
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: murders and shit now you know, in a giddy type

951
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 2: of whatever. But but it's still not the same as

952
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: only this one is bad, but watch the rest or

953
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm only gonna bring up I got a problem with

954
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: true crime when we get to this story that one

955
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: feels completely weird and like people.

956
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: Aren't being up front with what their real problem is.

957
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 2: They don't want to say whatever it is they really

958
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 2: thinking that what they real reason they don't want to

959
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: watch this one. They don't want to say that, so

960
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: they say something about like.

961
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's it's like.

962
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: Freedom of speech. People only bring up freedom of speech

963
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: arguments when they agree with what's being said, agreed. You know,

964
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 2: they've done studies to show this, Like people don't bring

965
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 2: up freedom like if someone says, well, listen, it's Dave Chappelle,

966
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: freedom of speech, it's because low key, they kind of

967
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: agree with what he's saying because it's not a freedom

968
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: of speech issue.

969
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: Technically, it's not being thrown in prison the government.

970
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 4: People don't understand the concept speech.

971
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: Means right, But when they employ the freedom of speech,

972
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 2: it's always that like I kind of agree with what

973
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: they're saying, so freedom of speech, and I think that,

974
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: you know, when Cathinick takes a need freedom of speech right,

975
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 2: But if.

976
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: If Riley Cooper gets.

977
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: Suspended for saying in the end word, we're not gonna

978
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: say freedom of speech, I'm like, nah, you shouldn't be

979
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: allowed to say that.

980
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: I know, why would I employ that argument. I don't

981
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: agree with what the fuck he did? You know? So,

982
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: and I think that's reasonable.

983
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: But it's the truth of the matter, right, And I

984
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 2: think that's what's happening with this is it's a true

985
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: crime problem for everybody that just celebrated Cereal getting ad

986
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: non released. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's not

987
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: like it's not a true crime problem. Really it's the

988
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: you know, because it's because you didn't watch this one

989
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 2: and it didn't do what you said it did. It

990
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: didn't glorify it did it wasn't insensitive to victims, it

991
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: wasn't mocking them any of that shit. So that's and

992
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: that's just somebody that watched it. And maybe you wouldn't

993
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: know because you've probably been getting inundated with a bunch

994
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: of people telling you not to watch it. And that's

995
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say too, is so much of

996
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: content absorption, watching consumption has become about us, yes, in

997
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: a way that I find off putting. I talked about

998
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 2: it before when Kendrick Lamar's Aum came out, and you know,

999
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: you listen to reviews and it's about people trying to

1000
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: tell you how they feel about their life and the

1001
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 2: decision the choices they made, and.

1002
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you can't wrap.

1003
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in I'm not interested in the decisions

1004
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: you made. I'm interested in you know, how well did

1005
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: he pull off this album?

1006
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: Good or bad?

1007
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: But instead it's like I started listening to Kendrick Lamar

1008
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: I was twenty three. I was sitting on the veranda

1009
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 2: at the sun and you're like.

1010
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 4: This is about as bad as the cooking recipes. When

1011
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 4: you click at the top and they go through everything

1012
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 4: they fucking did.

1013
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: That day, you were like, bench, where is the skip

1014
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: to the recipe button? Yeah, it's no longer about us.

1015
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: It's no longer about what we're watching. This about how

1016
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: we feel and so what people have done. And this

1017
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 2: is happening with Blonde too, the new movie with Anna

1018
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 2: di Armis. It's becoming this thing of like I didn't

1019
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: watch it and it should not exist. Therefore I am

1020
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 2: a better person than you who did watch it. I'm

1021
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: a better person than the people who made it. I'm

1022
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: a better person than the people who acted in it.

1023
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: I know more and care more. And I'm also telling

1024
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: all of y'all so I'm telling you not to go

1025
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: watch it to exude my power and influence over the

1026
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: timeline and this like narcissistic fucking money shot that everyone's doing.

1027
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: Like how can I how can I show how much

1028
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: control I have over other people? Don't watch it? If

1029
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: you watch it.

1030
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: I was upset knowing it's like, nigga, what I don't care?

1031
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: Like they just was it good? Was that acting good?

1032
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: Was the writing good? I couldn't even get through it,

1033
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: like that's a.

1034
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: New thing too. I watched three seconds and I had

1035
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: to tap out, Okay, well, good for you, motherfucker. What

1036
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: why is that a thing?

1037
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1038
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: Like, I don't think I'm a very tough person or

1039
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: extremely manly or toxic and shit, but apparently I'm the

1040
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: toughest nigga in the universe. I can watch a TV show.

1041
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: Of Make Believe and finish it and not feel like

1042
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 2: I accomplished a feed or or like I was taxed

1043
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 2: by a fictional representation of some shit.

1044
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's the these people doing insects on

1045
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: a dragon show. It's like, nigga, you hear yourself, it's dragons.

1046
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: It don't none of that's real those two people did

1047
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: not actually have sex or any of that. But oh,

1048
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm so exhausted. I don't watched this episode, and I

1049
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 2: was so like, why is that the thing for people?

1050
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: So I think that's what keeps getting to me, is

1051
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 2: like this whole idea of like, I guess what I'm

1052
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: What I say is I'm seeing through the fact that

1053
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 2: it's not about the content, it's about you creating content,

1054
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: and your content is I didn't even do the bare

1055
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: minimum of watching the shit, but here I go with my.

1056
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: Thoughts like, get the fuck.

1057
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, and yeah, someone said, what's the criticism of Blonde?

1058
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: It's exploiting Marilyn Monroe even though.

1059
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: It's about her.

1060
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: It's not really about the way the finish feminist manifesto

1061
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: of Marilyn Monroe that they want to see on screen. Uh,

1062
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: you know NC seventeen she gets naked. Of course, the

1063
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: director is asked about these questions. It is like, I

1064
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 2: didn't want to make the film about her doing this

1065
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: other shit.

1066
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to make another.

1067
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: Film about about her life and why she killed herself

1068
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 2: and the exploitations she experienced.

1069
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

1070
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 2: And so it's just like when you look at a review.

1071
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: The review is not like was it well done? Was

1072
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: it well written?

1073
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: Was it well acted? A lot of these reviews actually

1074
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: try to.

1075
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: Acquit the acting, which I find such a funny line

1076
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: of oh no, no, no, Janet Mark wrote a hell of

1077
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: an episode in this Jeffrey Dahmer doc series, in this

1078
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Dahmer series, and all the actors and actions were

1079
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 2: great in it, and this, but it shouldn't exist.

1080
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1081
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: It's like, you can't trick me. So it sounds like

1082
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: it was good. It sounds like you're saying it was

1083
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: good because because everything you just mentioned is all the

1084
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: things that I like from TV, writing, acting, performances, direction,

1085
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 2: the way the camera does. So how is it bad? Well,

1086
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: it's just it's about a tough topic. So things about

1087
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: tough topics should not exist.

1088
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1089
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: But they're not saying it's bad. They're saying they're saying

1090
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: it is bad that it is being talked about. And

1091
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: that's another thing. It's such a tangent. But like this

1092
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: idea that we need the discussion and conversation, how we're

1093
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: gonna start it, Well, how we gonna have a discussion.

1094
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 2: Who's gonna have to be able to input on it.

1095
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: What's the rules, right, you know, because a lot of

1096
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: this we need to have a discussion, not about that,

1097
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: not this way, not now, not to me. You just

1098
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 2: as bad as the fucking Republicans, just as bad as

1099
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 2: the conservative people that want to pretend that don't say

1100
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 2: gay and this ship don't exist.

1101
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: Like we have turned into.

1102
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: This, this this thing about where we're not learning or talking,

1103
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 2: we're just signaling as if we're good or bad.

1104
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like that goes back to some of the

1105
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: things I said before. It's very dangerous and a lot

1106
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 4: of the things that are getting stripped out of school.

1107
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 4: A lot of black and brown people actually are adding

1108
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 4: to it and are actually okay with it because y'all

1109
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 4: don't want to talk about it either, and you don't

1110
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 4: want to talk about it, And you got the other

1111
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: You got the white folks who don't want to talk

1112
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: about it because of racism. A lot of black and

1113
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: brown people don't want to talk about it because it

1114
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: triggers them and things like that, which I understand, but

1115
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 4: it's supposed to.

1116
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: And then you have the people in the middle going, hey, y'all,

1117
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: don't erase this shit. This shit matters, and a lot

1118
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: of times the people in the middle, a lot of

1119
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: people to get kind of washed it. Well, you always

1120
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 2: say something that I think is profound, which is people

1121
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 2: call experiencing emotions triggers. Now, yes they do, and when

1122
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 2: art is set out designed to to have you experienced

1123
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: an emotion, to me, that is not the same as

1124
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: a trigger. I think trigger used to have an actual

1125
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 2: definition psychologically and within like therapist spaces and academic spaces.

1126
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 2: But now it's just turned into any emotion you experience. Yes,

1127
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: especially if it's a man. This whole episode about to

1128
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 2: go in a different direction matter, but especially if it's

1129
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: a It's an emotion we connect to negativity, right, right, Anger, sadness,

1130
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 2: anger sometimes, by the way, a lot of times people

1131
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: love anger, but sadness, uh, trauma, shock, right, So certain

1132
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: emotions we are lumped into negative. And so what has

1133
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: happened with the discussion is that it's turned into we

1134
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: never want to experience these emotions. We should only experience

1135
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: this weird toxic positivity all the goddamn up and times

1136
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 2: everybody is everybody is stutting on somebody, everybody's clowning. Some

1137
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: haters everybody's Instagram is upbeat. Everybody's thing is this, you know,

1138
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: and is washing out real life?

1139
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 4: Right?

1140
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: And I'm I.

1141
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: Love the people who are still dedicated to telling stories

1142
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: that aren't just fucking happy all the goddamn time.

1143
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 4: That shit is boring And a lot of times these

1144
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 4: people talking about these things, they don't want to watch

1145
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: it because, you know what, a lot of the shit

1146
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: that that the people claim they wont to watch when

1147
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: they don't watch you when they get made that shit,

1148
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 4: they don't watch it.

1149
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I say this as a person that watches

1150
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: a lot of that kind of shit that people. We

1151
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: need this story to be told, and as soon as

1152
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: they make the Immet tell story, it's who the fuck.

1153
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: Asked for this?

1154
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: I don't want why we always got to have black traumas,

1155
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: Like well, there was seventy five black movies and TV

1156
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: shows this year. One of them is about Emmet Tel.

1157
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 2: You so what you're what you're really saying is that

1158
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: should never be an acknowledgment of Emmet Tel and especially

1159
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: it's in the hands of black and brown writers, directors.

1160
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: Film crishit y'all claim y'all, won't they.

1161
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: You know, they're you know, the the guy who wrote

1162
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: the book was connect that with Emmettil's family had their blessing,

1163
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: so it did check the boxes and you don't want

1164
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: to watch that. So then what are we talking about.

1165
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: We're talking about toxic positivity. We're talking about the idea

1166
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: that you don't want to experience a negative emotion. That

1167
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: is fine, but stop couching it. In this activist escalation

1168
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: word terms of this is what the world does to

1169
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: us as black No no, no, no, no, no no.

1170
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: Some of us want this shit. Some of us think it's.

1171
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: Important for these stories to be told, and we don't

1172
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: flinch when it's time to tell them, and we don't look,

1173
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: we don't feel shame and like we're the bad guys

1174
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 2: here for that and it's and if it's done well,

1175
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: which is all I'm looking for, Hey, thumbs up, thank you,

1176
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,919
Speaker 2: and then we're moving on to the next thing.

1177
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: You know, and the.

1178
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 2: Idea of profit and capitalism. It can't be removed from

1179
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: any of the shit anyway. As long as we exist

1180
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: in the world that you need dollars to live, someone's

1181
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: gonna be making money somewhere off of every story that

1182
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: has ever been told. Right, So people got that Black

1183
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: Mermaids for them. People got their original black stories in

1184
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: other areas, and then you got your black l's and

1185
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 2: all the shit and like, and then also some of

1186
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: these stories that really happen should be told as well.

1187
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: And like I said, I haven't called anyone a bad

1188
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: black person. I haven't detegrated anyone for not watching. I

1189
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: just think that power on culture of trying to make

1190
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: this shit not exist and trying to do a litmus

1191
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: test of other black people like you're a bad black person,

1192
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: or I've seen people watching it. And what's interesting is

1193
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: almost everyone that they mentioned in watching it, and a

1194
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: bunch of people tell them all that yacky you watch that,

1195
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: da da, And then quietly they're like, this is really

1196
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: good man.

1197
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: Episode six was amazing.

1198
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 2: And then what I find more interesting is the people

1199
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: that were like, how can you watch this? They stick

1200
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: around and they look listen to the people talk about it,

1201
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: and you can see that they're kind of curious about

1202
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: it too, but they don't want to admit that they're curious.

1203
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: Like going with the crowd, I think we're just so

1204
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: afraid to experience something complicated because I'm not even gonna

1205
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 2: say it's negative it's just it's more complicated than abvid elementary, right,

1206
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: and so it's like that we are only ready for

1207
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: Ted Lasso all the time, and.

1208
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 4: And and that's not realistic. I remember, uh, what was it?

1209
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: It was the documentary you watched, and they had a

1210
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: podcast about the killing, the killing, the killing of the

1211
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 4: kids in Atlanta. And I remember when when you initially

1212
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 4: put it on, I was like, Hm, I don't know

1213
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 4: if I'm gonna watch this, but I sat down and

1214
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 4: I watched it. I think we watched the whole thing together.

1215
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: Mean, yeah on HBO.

1216
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: HBO, you're talking about the documentary, not the podcast, because

1217
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: I've never listened to the podcast.

1218
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: But the podcast came out before the documentary, And I remember, uh,

1219
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: sitting there.

1220
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: Watch it's called Atlanta's Missing and Murdered the Lost Children,

1221
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: go ahead, And I.

1222
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 4: Remember watching it with you, and I am so glad

1223
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 4: I did because I being in Charlotte, this is not

1224
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 4: a story that I've heard of. I'm not from Atlanta.

1225
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 4: Atlanta's close to us, but I'm not from Atlanta. I'm

1226
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 4: not of the age where I would know these things

1227
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 4: that are happening. And a lot of times with these

1228
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 4: documentary no matter how much you think you know, there's

1229
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: something a lot of times you don't know. So a

1230
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 4: lot of times these documentaries will actually inform and educate

1231
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 4: and show the humanity and show the ineptitude of things

1232
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: that are happening around and also for me, confirmed the

1233
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 4: things that I feel because a lot of times, particularly

1234
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: being black and brown and other in this country, there

1235
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 4: are things that you know as fact and you feel

1236
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 4: it happening now. But when you see some shit that

1237
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 4: happening in the seventies and the eighties, you'd be like, oh,

1238
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 4: this is the same shit, and it don't make you

1239
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 4: It don't make me feel like I'm crazy, and it

1240
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: don't make me feel like I'm a lunatic.

1241
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 2: And so I watched this TV show, mind Hunter, and

1242
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: season two of mind Hunter is about that case I

1243
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 2: have never not won.

1244
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: You just literally reminded me of this.

1245
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: I have never not once seen anybody bring up mind

1246
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: Hunter and how disrespectful it was and why didn't the victims'

1247
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: families get some money from the show. This shit is arbitrary,

1248
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: That's all I'm pointing out. That's the only thing that

1249
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 2: you know, Like whatever, hyper justice, whatever fucking brain I

1250
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 2: have it picks up on that level of hypocrisy because

1251
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: my brain picks up patters. It's like, but this wasn't

1252
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: a thing, and it wasn't you better not watch it people,

1253
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: and it wasn't trending to this level. So yes on Netflix.

1254
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: So and it was so well done, it was so smart,

1255
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 2: just like this. This is another example of like, wow,

1256
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: they took the time, they humanized the families and the

1257
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: mothers that were missing these children, right, and the way

1258
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: that this case was steamrolled and the way that it

1259
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 2: was glossed over that it could not possibly just be

1260
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: one dude. But it like not that he didn't do anything,

1261
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 2: but just the fact that they wanted to close this

1262
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: shit because they were like, just shut these niggas up

1263
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: and just pretend this isn't happening, and let's let's stop

1264
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: the work.

1265
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: We're spending too much money. Who cares about these black kids? Anyway?

1266
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: I like that because, as you said, it affirms things

1267
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: that I know that if it were not for this

1268
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 2: type of depiction, we just we just get it glossed over.

1269
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: They don't teach us about it in school, they don't,

1270
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 2: they don't, it doesn't come up on the news.

1271
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: These are there's so.

1272
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: Much black history that is in America that is literally

1273
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: just whitewashed away. And unfortunately it takes a why doing

1274
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,919
Speaker 2: an episode on Tulsa before motherfuckers go wait, that wasn't

1275
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: a race wode, That's unfortunately that's what it takes. And

1276
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: I feel like putting these weapons away in this literal

1277
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: war that we are fighting over our history in America

1278
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: right now, with them erasing textbooks and taking out memoirs

1279
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: and refusing to educate our children on the real history

1280
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: of America. One of the most powerful tools in our

1281
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: arsenal right now is this is the thing that goes

1282
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: watch this, learn more. And also a lot of this

1283
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: is true, a lot of this is real. So you

1284
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: can go and find like you curious. Now, you might

1285
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 2: go listen to that Atlanta Monster podcast, right and now

1286
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: you might read that book, but it won't it won't

1287
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: help to put these things away and just turn away.

1288
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm not asking people to write in with their different opinions.

1289
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: I honestly have heard them all. I don't find them

1290
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: to be for me. They may be compelling to you,

1291
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: and that's your business, and and and that's totally fine.

1292
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: But the way this shit has gotten dog pout on.

1293
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: It's just it's just another one, another one of these

1294
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: moves in a pattern of just like shutting this conversation down.

1295
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: We will never have there will never be because these

1296
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 2: people never start these conversations. They go this is wrong,

1297
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: and you go, well, then how how should we talk

1298
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 2: about Jeffrey Dahmer?

1299
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: Not at all?

1300
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 4: Ever? Really, that's that's what they're saying. They're saying, not

1301
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 4: to talk about it. But these things need to be

1302
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 4: brought up. These things need to be talked about, and

1303
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 4: these things need to be discussed. These the families were real,

1304
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 4: the victims were real people. These things actually did did exist,

1305
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 4: and it's very important to know these things because a

1306
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 4: lot of times, even in the city of Charlotte, there

1307
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 4: are things that happen in the city that I had

1308
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 4: no idea that happened about years ago. Even in the

1309
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 4: city that you're in right now, Google your city and

1310
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 4: you will find out there's something that happened there that

1311
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 4: what you wouldn't even know about that ain't even have

1312
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 4: a documentary or something, but you have no idea.

1313
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw like we got like Rosewood, but we've

1314
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 2: never gotten things on like Wilmington Uh, Like, there's just

1315
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 2: so much shit and I just feel like I'm not

1316
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 2: trying to scold black people, but it's our uncomfortableness with

1317
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: anything less.

1318
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: Than toxic positivity that.

1319
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: Is aiding the enemy in erasing the trauma that we

1320
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 2: have experienced from the books. And it's why you have

1321
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 2: people saying stupid shit like my ancestors didn't die for

1322
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: me to vote, which ages, which is historically incorrect and

1323
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: not true. They weren't dying for your right to choose

1324
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: to not vote. They literally were dying saying I hope

1325
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: these niggas will vote, so wrote let us Yeah, Like

1326
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: the word is right there. It's like we know what

1327
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: they thought. This is.

1328
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: We don't have to guess at what they thought. Read it.

1329
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: Read these books, it's right there in it.

1330
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: But the point being, like the reason we can say

1331
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 2: shit like that where people literally died let than one

1332
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: hundred years ago, like some.

1333
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: Of our some of the people alive right now, we're.

1334
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: Witness to and experienced some of the violence around stopping

1335
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: black people from voting in the South, and it's still

1336
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: happening to this day. And we refuse to make a

1337
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: connection because we don't get taught to history in schools,

1338
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 2: and we're so fucking traumatized. And I empathize with our trauma,

1339
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: but we're so fucking traumatized we're shutting the shit down too,

1340
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: and then we wonder why shit don't change, Like it's

1341
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: just it's just super wild. But anyway, that was a

1342
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: huge tangent that I wasn't planning on going on. But

1343
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's been a while since we had an

1344
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 2: episode just us too, and it wasn't my game of throngs.

1345
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: Let's keep it, let's keep the downer going. Okay, let's

1346
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: move it to another segment. We don't have any just

1347
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 2: music for getting back to to the top, getting back

1348
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 2: to other segments. Transition to normal music, news, no news,

1349
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: no news. This is no news, regularass news, nothing important news.

1350
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 4: So we need something like that to be like, hey,

1351
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 4: we're transitioning.

1352
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: Me too.

1353
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 2: Five years later, while time's up and ploded, I found

1354
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: this in the Hollywood Reporter, Rebecca Keagan wrote it, Uh,

1355
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 2: it's great.

1356
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: So I was thinking this when.

1357
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 2: Udoka, the coach of the Boston Celtics.

1358
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

1359
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 2: He was suspended for a year because of an improper

1360
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 2: relationship with someone within the organization of the Boston, Celtics.

1361
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 2: Lots of rumors are coming out, information starting to slowly

1362
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: trickle out.

1363
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: The gist of it is UH.

1364
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 2: An investigation was sparked based off of UH. Either this

1365
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: woman coming to HR and saying he need to chill

1366
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: the fuck out, or her husband hearing about something on

1367
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 2: ring doorbron or what like. It's just a lot of rumors, allege, alleged.

1368
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 2: But what we do know is an investigation by a

1369
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 2: third party was done on behalf of you know, the

1370
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:13,799
Speaker 2: person that the court I don't even know if victim

1371
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 2: is the right word, but whatever, the other person and

1372
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: HR and he was found to be in violation and

1373
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: multiple violations, not just from the relationship, but they didn't

1374
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 2: want to elaborate for his privacy and the privacy of

1375
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: the person involved, right, okay. Immediately we saw a bunch

1376
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: of different reactions and one of the main ones I

1377
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: saw that was a bit confusing to me was people

1378
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: that you know, trumpeted came to prominence via the me

1379
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: too movement that really seen the support the idea of

1380
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: women coming forward and voicing their you know, experiences, and

1381
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: you know me too was wide ranging. It was about

1382
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: money and influencing power and stuff. But it's also at

1383
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: its core supposed to be about sex harassment, you know,

1384
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: the stuff that's going on in the workplace that's inappropriate,

1385
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 2: you know, that kind of stuff. And so I saw

1386
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: a lot of people that I respect and thought were.

1387
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: You know, had it together.

1388
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 2: And keep in mind, this is real time news, so

1389
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 2: maybe it's happening so fast they ain't have time to

1390
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 2: like sit back and think.

1391
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,839
Speaker 1: Everybody's on Twitter just reacting everything.

1392
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 4: It instant online and it doesn't go through I called

1393
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 4: it that filter.

1394
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 2: It was a lot of like this ain't our business,

1395
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, like what like why did they put this

1396
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: out there? Shit like that, Like no critical thought to it?

1397
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: Like would the Boston Soldiers that put this out there?

1398
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 2: They didn't have to, of course, not do the Boston

1399
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: Celdiers want to suspend their very popular, young new black

1400
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: coach that just got them to the fucking finals last year.

1401
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they woke up and said, I can't

1402
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: wait to get this man out of the paint. More

1403
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: than likely they wouldn't be doing this unless they fucking

1404
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 2: absolutely had to agree. If anything, I feel like we're

1405
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: about a month or two away from coming back and

1406
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,919
Speaker 2: revisiting this decision and going oh, fuck the Celtics.

1407
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: They actually didn't do it enough.

1408
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: They should have fired him, and what he did was

1409
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 2: so egregious that they hope to keep it, keep it quiet,

1410
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: and keep him and a year later just pretend that, hey,

1411
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: he served his time and we'll never know for what.

1412
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: But I feel like, especially in this climate, when we

1413
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 2: find out whatever it is, this ain't the This ain't

1414
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 2: the room to be finding out what it is, and

1415
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: people go, oh, year is about right.

1416
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: It'll it'll definitely be too little what it is.

1417
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I saw a lot of people jump into

1418
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: the like, this sounds like it's a personal matter.

1419
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: Well it happened at work. At least one.

1420
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: Person is not okay with it anymore, and he's the boss,

1421
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: So what do you?

1422
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: And then it was the will white men do this

1423
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: and get away with it?

1424
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 2: Which is always the worst fucking argument because it's never

1425
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: white it's okay, and we want to live in a

1426
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 2: world where white men get.

1427
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: Away with it. It's I want to be a white man.

1428
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: We don't want it's wrong when a white man does it.

1429
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

1430
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: All right?

1431
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: Why do I want the impunity that comes with whiteness

1432
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: that does the same thing.

1433
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: It's like that's not a good It's.

1434
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: Like we've all been victimized by white men and saying

1435
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 2: that's bad and we don't want to experience that. So

1436
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 2: uh he like I said, what someone says, it wasn't

1437
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 2: clear that he was her boss.

1438
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 4: Uh.

1439
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 2: I'm not getting into details, I know, but I'll just

1440
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: say this, if you're the coach of the Celtics, you're

1441
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 2: a boss.

1442
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. You're the coach. You can't

1443
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 1: just go around the building fucking people. It ain't like it.

1444
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: Ain't that deep. Like he don't got to be the

1445
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 2: CEO or the owner. Coach is a boss in that

1446
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 2: The power dynamic just isn't you know, the power dynamic

1447
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: isn't fair, right, you see what I'm saying, Like, you

1448
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: can't pull that shit.

1449
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 4: You're in a management position, right.

1450
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 2: And that's before we get into the allegations of harassment

1451
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: and and other things.

1452
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of people's jumped to.

1453
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: Opinion was we shouldn't even be talking about this, and

1454
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: a lot of that being from people that I thought

1455
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: were not on that bullshit, you know, especially when I

1456
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 2: saw like black women Town of tout and that because

1457
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 2: it felt like a little bit of that we got

1458
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 2: to protect this brother at all costs, you know, And

1459
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: it's like, do you want to know what he did?

1460
01:14:54,960 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: That's not our business, okay, but when this is it

1461
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: our business? Because people said that when it was R.

1462
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 2: Kelly, people said that, when it was Bill Cosby, people

1463
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: say that when it's any black dude, we start with

1464
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: the let's let's fight on the line of whatever he did,

1465
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: we don't even need to know, which is how shit

1466
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: gets covered up and people end up having like long

1467
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: ass track records of abuse and violations because we didn't

1468
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: want to know the first time we heard something, so

1469
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 2: why the fuck we want to know? So now we

1470
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: all wait till it's fifty times before we'd be like,

1471
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: we all knew he was wrong, but we never said,

1472
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 2: like who is we now?

1473
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: We is not in this together?

1474
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you know, and I get that some there's

1475
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: some prominent men with fucked up histories, of course, and

1476
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 2: that are gatekeepers in the game. Right now, you know

1477
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: that that don't seem to be suffering the consequences. Joe

1478
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: Budden's talking about stealthy people on this podcast as a

1479
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: quote unquote joke according to his fans and defenders. You know,

1480
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: we've all heard these allegations against Charlemagne. We've like these

1481
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 2: these there's prominent people that have these history that these

1482
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 2: same people I saw on Twitter, they they yuck yuck

1483
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 2: with they kick it with them. Stealthan is when you slider,

1484
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: you don't put a condom on what you pretend to.

1485
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, it's been labeled sexual assault in several

1486
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: countries and states, and shit, it's very fucked up.

1487
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 4: But he was okay because I know what stealthing is

1488
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 4: like in Ninja stealthing. But I was like, I don't

1489
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:26,599
Speaker 4: think that was the same.

1490
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: I know you loved and not know. I know you love.

1491
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 4: It, and I know I'm not the only old person.

1492
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: No, thank you for telling us what you did. How

1493
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: you didn't know.

1494
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, So anyway, the point being like, I know

1495
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: that there's a pressure one to not be a bad

1496
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: black person and go, yeah, that was out of pocket.

1497
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 1: Whatever he was doing is probably out of pocket.

1498
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna at least wait till I hear more

1499
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 2: before I start saying anything in his defense.

1500
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 4: Yep, because one's gonna come out. Yeah, I'm more always

1501
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 4: comes out.

1502
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: And you know Stephen A.

1503
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 2: Smith, he was another one that was like, this is

1504
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 2: you know, egregious. Had they only doing this because he

1505
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 2: a black man? White people get away with this all

1506
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: the time kind of thing. And while he'll say it

1507
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: was stupid, the under the underlying implication because he brought

1508
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: it to a racial point, the underlying implication is they're

1509
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: just doing this to him because it's a black man

1510
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:20,480
Speaker 2: and there's stereotypes.

1511
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 1: They should be worried about it. And this brother's never gonna

1512
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: work again.

1513
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 4: The finals, like they would do anything to jeopardize that

1514
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 4: unless they had to.

1515
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: So I'm getting to all that in this roundabout way.

1516
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's gonna be a different type of

1517
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 2: episode today, So I'm getting to all this in this

1518
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 2: roundabout way to say. I remember thinking when I was

1519
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 2: reading people that, like I said, some of them even

1520
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 2: have respect for saying this, And I was like, oh,

1521
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: the me too movements, it's a rap. Like maybe people

1522
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: could call it before today and that's fine, or before

1523
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 2: that day.

1524
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: For me personally, it was that day.

1525
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 2: That was the day I said, oh, these people would

1526
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: have never if we didn't learn anything. It was hey, man,

1527
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 2: verify before you say anything. In defense of some nigga,

1528
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: because you will be out here putting on the clown

1529
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 2: nose with the cape later on when it's like and

1530
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: turns out he's.

1531
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,639
Speaker 1: A serial abuser or whatever it's like.

1532
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: Yep, you was out here talking about we need to

1533
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: protect these black men in all costs, and say in

1534
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 2: our business, and I hope people bring up every last

1535
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: one of those things and go how you were saying

1536
01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 2: it wasn't our business. You were saying not to look

1537
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 2: into this. You were saying not to ask any questions.

1538
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: You were blaming the organization for making it a problem,

1539
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 2: as if the organization wasn't trying to make the best

1540
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 2: decision with the information they had, right.

1541
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: You know, I saw people.

1542
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of people deflecting towards the organization

1543
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 2: because they know it's a good scapegouder my opinion. And

1544
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: those people were smart because they didn't want to come

1545
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 2: out and say what it really was, which is I'm

1546
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 2: trying to defend this black man, so they turned it

1547
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: into the organization handled it wrong. Well, from what we know,

1548
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: organization ain't the one that the lead that that that

1549
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: leaked them tweets. No organization had a press conference official

1550
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 2: press conference the next morning. I don't know how fast

1551
01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: they were supposed to move with a leak that happened

1552
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,799
Speaker 2: in the middle of the fucking night that that morning,

1553
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: like three in the morning.

1554
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 1: Is he gonna get suspended for a year?

1555
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: And then no one wants to No one wants to

1556
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: guess that the leak isn't coming from the Celtics organization,

1557
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,440
Speaker 2: even though the leak clearly puts Email in an extremely

1558
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 2: sympathetic situation, because the leak was like it was a

1559
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 2: consensual relationship and he's being suspended a year.

1560
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's the way.

1561
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 2: You know, who would tell that story if I'm e

1562
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: May That's how I tell the story. Hey man, all

1563
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 2: I did was have a consentual relationship. These motherfuckers spend

1564
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 2: me for Yeah, this race is the shit there other

1565
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: people do this all the time, Like that's how I

1566
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: would tell the story. And that's exactly what people picked

1567
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: up and ran. But but we still think it was

1568
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: the Celtics that leaked that version of events. That doesn't

1569
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: make sense, as if we haven't seen leaks from teams

1570
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 2: that just just dintegrade.

1571
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: The person they want to did is.

1572
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: They wouldn't shit, they it was lazy, they didn't show

1573
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 2: up their practice. They argue with everybody, right, So I

1574
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 2: thought that was just a very interesting moment. And I

1575
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 2: just remember thinking, well, of these people who were like

1576
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: somewhat are the guardians of the me too movement and

1577
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: definitely were loudly outspoken, took a lot of slings and

1578
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: arrows that they should not have had to take for

1579
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 2: standing up for women, because people would go, you just

1580
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: bringing down men, you're bringing out black men, You're doing this,

1581
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 2: You're doing that. And so to see those same people go, now,

1582
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: hold up, not this time, I was like, oh shit.

1583
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,839
Speaker 2: So I'm read this article today in the Hollywood Reporter

1584
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: and it was basically talking about the Times Up organization.

1585
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: It is basically defunct.

1586
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: Wow that it was only twenty seventeen when the Harvey

1587
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 2: Weinstein scandal broke. Twenty eighteen, we get the announcement of

1588
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: like it's time's up. All these people are on the board,

1589
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: Shanda ron Oprah, like just big fucking names, you know,

1590
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 2: Like it seemed like there was more popularity and goodwill

1591
01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: and just signing up to be on a Leana done

1592
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: them even got in the picture, and she was one

1593
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,440
Speaker 2: of the people.

1594
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 4: That yeah, that was the thinking of that bitch, what

1595
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 4: you're doing here? You just showed up for the photo off.

1596
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 4: You ain't get no work.

1597
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: Like she was.

1598
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: And I guess this is just human, but she was

1599
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 2: one of the people that when they got to want

1600
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: somebody she knew.

1601
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: She didn't just go say stay silent.

1602
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 2: She said that Aurora Man, I forget Paranough she was like,

1603
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: she lying and I believe this guy my friend, and

1604
01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 2: it turns out that guy was lying, and then she

1605
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 2: tried to retract that, but it's like, it's way too late.

1606
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: Your first reaction was this ain't our business or sometimes

1607
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: women be lying and my friend to come to my

1608
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: friend bitches be lying, And once again I get that impost.

1609
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: If it was my friend, I might feel that way too.

1610
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 2: What I wouldn't do is say anything because I might

1611
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: be wrong, And I know I'm compromised. I know I

1612
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: don't want you know, I don't want to believe my

1613
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 2: friend was capable of that. So I gotta wait for

1614
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: some evidence before I say a goddamn thing, because I

1615
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 2: know that if I had to say something off the

1616
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 2: cove is probably gonna be either not my business or hey,

1617
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:13,679
Speaker 2: my friend wouldn't do that. You know, it's never gonna

1618
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: be like a full throat that like this nigga is trash,

1619
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: you know. Anyway, they only have three remaining board members,

1620
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: right wow, yes, yes, And like I said, this, this

1621
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 2: is that's crazy because I just remember yet Oprah, Meryl Street,

1622
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:35,799
Speaker 2: Shinda Rahna, something.

1623
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 4: Happened and everybody started pulling out.

1624
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: So one c AA was involved in the beginning, from

1625
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: the beginning, I believe. And they're the same agency that

1626
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 2: sent some women to these auditions with Harvey Weinstein.

1627
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: They also, I believe, were the agency.

1628
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: Where Terry Crews said he was sexually like handled by

1629
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 2: this so like by agent there and stuff.

1630
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: So they have a history then you obviously have.

1631
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: Like so Oprah was producing or funding executive producing this

1632
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,600
Speaker 2: documentary called on the Record about Russell Simmons and the

1633
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: allegations against him coming out. She ended up backing out

1634
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 2: a lot of it because she caught a lot of

1635
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 2: slings and arrows from a lot of black people saying

1636
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 2: she hates the black community. This is what we do.

1637
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's Gail King bringing up you know, Kobe

1638
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 2: sexual assault stuff, and then she becomes a bad black

1639
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 2: person for a while and if you want to get

1640
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 2: us off your case, you have to basically promise to

1641
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 2: never talk about black.

1642
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Men and anything.

1643
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 2: They do like that, because when they talked about her

1644
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 2: with Kobe, they also added in R.

1645
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: Kelly is evidence, by the way, but go.

1646
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 4: Ahead, you're y'all about to say, but with the R Kelly,

1647
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 4: she didn't do nothing. He was you on the agreement.

1648
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 4: And guess what.

1649
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 2: Her interview was valid, right, And I think her question

1650
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 2: they have been poorly timed to some people, that's fine,

1651
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 2: but her question was not irrelevant about Kobe. That's that's

1652
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 2: gonna always be part of his legacy, whether we would

1653
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 2: like to, you know, sanctify him through you know, death,

1654
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 2: it's still that doesn't that doesn't make.

1655
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,879
Speaker 1: It right, you know, or whatever.

1656
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 2: But the point being is seen as you you don't

1657
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: care about the black community. You want to destroy us,

1658
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: you know. And so I think Oprah backed out because

1659
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 2: she was catching all that heat and look at you

1660
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 2: and Gail can y'all hate brothers and ended up being

1661
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 2: landed on like HBO Max. I don't know if it's

1662
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 2: still on there. I remember watching it and yeah, it

1663
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: was put on HBO Max instead. And that's one of

1664
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 2: the people that's you know, supposedly one of the backers

1665
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 2: of this prominent movement. And they did start the Times

1666
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 2: Up Legal Defense Fund, which sounds like they continue to

1667
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: do work and continue like they done work. They do

1668
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 2: present women, they do pay for people's representation and get

1669
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: them in context, so like, but they're separate. The Legal

1670
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,839
Speaker 2: Defense Fund is basically a separate company. But the actual

1671
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:17,559
Speaker 2: like Times Up entity that basically has had three different

1672
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: CEOs in the last three years. I think they currently

1673
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: don't have a CEO. Wow, they are trying. They if

1674
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: you go to like their website and stuff, it says

1675
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: like they're trying to reorganize or something, and that they

1676
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: do not plan to do interviews or or any level

1677
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,680
Speaker 2: of press or put out any statements, which I mean

1678
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: that was the thing. TIMESOGE used to put out a

1679
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: statement every time when these cases popped up, and it's

1680
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: all women, you know, and it makes me wonder, like

1681
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: combining this with the response to email, like what was

1682
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 2: the point then, Like was this just like a flex

1683
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: was this just like a virtue signal thing? And then

1684
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: once the work started where it's like, Okay, what are

1685
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 2: we going to do to clean up this, I think

1686
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 2: one you realize very quickly that women have different goals,

1687
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: that it's not a monolith.

1688
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: White women want to make as much money as white men.

1689
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: Black women want to make a competitive want to make

1690
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: They not even make as much as white women.

1691
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: So you got the money issues, you.

1692
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 2: Have sexual harassment, sexual assault, you got power dynamics.

1693
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: They also advise at Cuomo. When Governor Cuomo was.

1694
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Having his sexual assault scandal and harassment scandal, they advised him.

1695
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 2: And when that was discovered, people was like, how can

1696
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: you be advising a guy who's accused on how to

1697
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 2: handle the pr and stuff when you're supposed to be

1698
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 2: on the side of like calling this shit out.

1699
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 1: It's a very valid question, by the way.

1700
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: You know. So so yeah, it's you know, it is

1701
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 2: one of those things like is it just a grift

1702
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 2: to people? Is it just a flex Like I'm it

1703
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: was the time I got caught up in the moment

1704
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 2: it was time to take a picture.

1705
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: And then they started being like experience, So what if

1706
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 1: we told you that you can create your hybrid cloud.

1707
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 4: Like, y'all do know, it's actually work, people work. I

1708
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 4: can't just throw my name in it and have somebody

1709
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 4: else do it like I do with my other projects.

1710
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: That was like no, yeah, and so it seems like

1711
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: after Roe V.

1712
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 2: Wade was overturned, they tried to have a meeting with

1713
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 2: or was at ad hoc group holding weekly zoom calls

1714
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: and some of the people that used to be at

1715
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 2: times Up were there, but none of them introduced themselves

1716
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,360
Speaker 2: as even being affiliated with times up on any level,

1717
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: like not even as a bonafid, like oh, and I

1718
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: used to be the CEO for times Up.

1719
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 1: It's like it's like Times Up never existed.

1720
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 4: I wonder, is it because the organization's name is has

1721
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 4: been turning so bad that people just like I just

1722
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,000
Speaker 4: don't wonder if I say it all of a sudden,

1723
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,200
Speaker 4: I'm being looked at funny but like us with that organization.

1724
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah and yeah and so. But it makes me wonder

1725
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: if like the task was so hard, the what happened

1726
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 1: was fumbled so badly, the.

1727
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: Momentum was was has waned, And it's almost like the

1728
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: George Floyd thing, like Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosey, R. Kelly

1729
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: were like a George Floyd moment for a lot of women.

1730
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 2: Two years later, three years later, the momentum has died down,

1731
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 2: and the money and the and the will and the clout,

1732
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: it's gone.

1733
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:50,919
Speaker 1: Like me wearing the pin to the to the to the.

1734
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: Awards was like a cool moment of solidarity, and we're

1735
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: on the scene and we're taking things back and we're

1736
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 2: changing it. And then like you find out some of

1737
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: them men with depends or to use the shit too, So.

1738
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 1: It feels like everybody just went all, that's enough.

1739
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 2: Like we talked about pandemic fatigue, but there's some type

1740
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 2: of fatigue associated.

1741
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: With with uh these like movement fatigue.

1742
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 4: Yes, movement fatigue, equality fatigue fatigue, social justice fatigue.

1743
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1744
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 4: It's like these things considentally come up because the people

1745
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 4: uh just get tired. They go on, I don't want

1746
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 4: to do with it no more. And a lot of times,

1747
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 4: even if these things directly impact them, they're at a

1748
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 4: place where they can still live a normal life quote

1749
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 4: unquote or kind of above it where they'll be find

1750
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 4: almost regardless, because if you are the people that are

1751
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 4: being directly impacted by this shit, you're like, no, I

1752
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,759
Speaker 4: don't have time for fatigue. But people can get fatigued

1753
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 4: when they don't feel like it's that important.

1754
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, someone brought up ronand Ferroll found out that

1755
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 2: I don't think it was Gloria Alred, but her daughter

1756
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 2: was advising, Yeah, I don't think it was Gloria. But

1757
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 2: the point being, like her daughter claimed the famous I'm

1758
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 2: like my mom fighting for these victims.

1759
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

1760
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 4: What are you doing?

1761
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:17,280
Speaker 1: What are you doing?

1762
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: You can't get checks both ways, so and that shit

1763
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 2: detigrates the movement and make people stop believing because they

1764
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 2: be like, nigga, you getting a.

1765
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: Check from him and time like you can't. You can't

1766
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 1: coexist in that lane like that, you know. So, yeah,

1767
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: it's just shit. Is super, super weird to see that.

1768
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 2: And when I read this article, I was like, man,

1769
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: what a perfect day to read this a week after

1770
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: watching to me and people embarrass themselves with histrionics where

1771
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 2: they couldn't say what they wanted to say, but they

1772
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 2: knew what they was doing. They didn't want to say

1773
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 2: it all the way out, which is I just don't

1774
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 2: want nothing to happen to this dude. I don't really

1775
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,639
Speaker 2: care what he did. Instead, it had to be they

1776
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 2: didn't announce it the right way. The press conference is

1777
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 2: where they really messed up, Like, no, if they wouldn't

1778
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 2: They should have suspended them but not said anything. It's like, well,

1779
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 2: if they suspend him and don't say anything, he's just

1780
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: gonna ask more questions.

1781
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,680
Speaker 1: Right if they you know, there's no good way to

1782
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: cover this shit other than them not do anything. Yeah,

1783
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: toxic positivity.

1784
01:31:23,479 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 2: Right, there's no way to cover this that doesn't make

1785
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: somebody feel bad somewhere, right, somebody gotta feel bad.

1786
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 4: Somebody gotta feel bad, and people don't feel bad, feel like,

1787
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,679
Speaker 4: I got these emotions, so y'all gonna have to deal

1788
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 4: with them.

1789
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 2: Trevor Noah is leaving The Daily Show. I was hearing

1790
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 2: that after seven years. I'm kind of sad, but I

1791
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 2: do understand. We was watching the show where he was

1792
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,640
Speaker 2: making an announcement. I do understand because he was like,

1793
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to talk to you know, learning

1794
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: other languages and getting out and doing other things too,

1795
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:56,640
Speaker 2: and so you know, he's come to this conclusion on

1796
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 2: his own, which I think is a good thing. It

1797
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 2: was his choice, sounds like, so I think it is

1798
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: a good thing, and they're probably going to find somebody

1799
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: else and keep it going.

1800
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,919
Speaker 4: Think it's like the third host. I think John Stewart

1801
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 4: was the longest. Think he had like twelve fifteen years.

1802
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 4: He had a very long time. The very first person

1803
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 4: had it like two or three years, didn't have it

1804
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 4: that long at all. So he's like the second longest

1805
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 4: host of The Daily Show.

1806
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as the last person to watch to watch

1807
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 1: that ship.

1808
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: The Daily Show every day, I'm definitely gonna miss Trevor Man.

1809
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: I feel like he not getting he didn't get his

1810
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: due from a lot of people.

1811
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:38,799
Speaker 1: He didn't.

1812
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 2: And he's another person that was kind of the kind

1813
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 2: of the same way people are doing with this Dahmer thing,

1814
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 2: where they're trying to shut down any level of like

1815
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 2: enthusiasm or support before it starts.

1816
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: They did that to him. It was a nounce.

1817
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:59,640
Speaker 2: It was a lot of negativity, right, So, and I

1818
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 2: just want to clear something up because somebody in the

1819
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 2: chack keeps saying Gloria Auer was involved, and I'm reading

1820
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 2: this vanity fair.

1821
01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: Was she is responding.

1822
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 2: Had I been asked by mister Winston to represent him,

1823
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 2: I would have declined because I do not represent individuals

1824
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 2: accused of sex harassment.

1825
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,759
Speaker 1: All to represent those who were lasted they are victims

1826
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:22,839
Speaker 1: of sexual harassment. So just say Lisa Bloom that's her daughter.

1827
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: Lisa Bloom, So I don't know, maybe like maybe there's

1828
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 2: another version of this shit that I hadn't heard, but.

1829
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: I did not know. This is news to me.

1830
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 2: Okay, there's a podcast, but then now I gotta listen

1831
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 2: to a podcast on a podcast.

1832
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: What's going on now?

1833
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 4: So did she talk to her doing like, hey, baby,

1834
01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 4: don't do this? What is she doing? Baby? Baby? No? No?

1835
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:51,719
Speaker 1: No?

1836
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, her firm helped negotiate a confidential settlement in

1837
01:33:55,439 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, but between him and Ashley Mathial,

1838
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 2: a dancer of accused of sexual assault.

1839
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,000
Speaker 1: She represents two women who are expected to testify it.

1840
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 2: But that's yeah, I had to look into the details

1841
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 2: of that because is that her representing him or she

1842
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 2: negotiated the settlement because this woman wanted a confidential settlement

1843
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 2: with this man.

1844
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 1: So those are two different things. And I think you

1845
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: have to be.

1846
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 2: Very specific if you're gonna throw Gloria's name out there

1847
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:30,959
Speaker 2: like that, because that's a pretty big accusation for Gloria.

1848
01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 1: Like if she was representing his.

1849
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 2: Side of that, that's that's different than her saying because

1850
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 2: there are women and there's not anything wrong with this,

1851
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 2: and I fully understand and support not even women, just

1852
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 2: victims of people with predators like this who just say

1853
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,519
Speaker 2: I want money, I want my name not put through

1854
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 2: the mud, and I just want a confidentiality agreement that

1855
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 2: he won't bring me up.

1856
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 1: And I won't bring him up.

1857
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: Right, we can all go on, yeah, because not every

1858
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,280
Speaker 2: woman chooses to like go through this as uh, you know,

1859
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:04,320
Speaker 2: in a public way.

1860
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 1: So sorry about that.

1861
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 4: I got it, and I can see and I can

1862
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 4: understand people going, hey, dog, like I don't want to

1863
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 4: deal with that, Like, no, you know, because the Internet

1864
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 4: and the public and news and media and everybody has

1865
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 4: kind of showed people the quote unquote repercussions of your

1866
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 4: name being put out in public and people knowing who

1867
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 4: you are. They've showed that they will harass you on

1868
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,400
Speaker 4: social media. They will dox you, they will dog your family,

1869
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,559
Speaker 4: they will dock your friends. You will have people show

1870
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 4: up at your house, You will have the media follow

1871
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 4: you around where you can't do anything. They have showed you,

1872
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 4: they have showed you what will happen. So I can

1873
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 4: see people going, no, just fucking pay me and let

1874
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 4: me dissolve into the goddamn That's what happened when.

1875
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 2: With Bill Cozy at first, and he violated. He started

1876
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,759
Speaker 2: violating ndias by acting like he was innocent and acting

1877
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:57,160
Speaker 2: like but the NDA's were like, you don't say we

1878
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 2: were lying. We won't say what you did, and we'll

1879
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: just take this money and be quiet. And then he

1880
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 2: broke it. So he started telling people it was a

1881
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 2: lie ship because it had of a bird, so and

1882
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:09,680
Speaker 2: then brought it all back up.

1883
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 1: Anyway, my point being like, I would.

1884
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 2: Be shocked if Glorya Alred was representing Harvey Weinstein, her

1885
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: daughter was representing this man she was she was like

1886
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 2: advising this nigga.

1887
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 1: I think that's totally different. Anyway.

1888
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 2: Trevor Noah announces his departure from the Daily Show. Yeah,

1889
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm kind of sad for the dude, but I hope

1890
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: like what I liked about Trevor Noah is I watched

1891
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 2: a dude not from here that people see on the

1892
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:47,680
Speaker 2: outward as black come in with this uh almost enviable

1893
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:54,000
Speaker 2: hope and naive. You can see change because he at

1894
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 2: least in South Africa, there have been some level of addressment,

1895
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 2: some level of reconciliation. I'm not I don't know if

1896
01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 2: it's like a reparation situation or not. But I just

1897
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 2: know that he seemed like he came from a place

1898
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 2: where there was hope you could actually have a conversation agreed.

1899
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 2: And I'll never forget the episode where they watched the

1900
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: video of Philadeo Castill being killed by the police and

1901
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: the darning realization that this was a different monster. And

1902
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,679
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed that about him. I think what the biggest,

1903
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 2: most underrated part of his.

1904
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: Hosting is going to be his interviews.

1905
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 2: He's legitimately the best interviewer I think on TV right now,

1906
01:37:39,160 --> 01:37:41,840
Speaker 2: and it's just because he doesn't whether it be like

1907
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: his assistance or whether he's doing it himself, he just

1908
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to half ass that part, Like if he

1909
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 2: doesn't just come on as a place for you to

1910
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 2: promote your book or your content, but to promote your ideas,

1911
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 2: and he wants to engage with him And unfortunately for him,

1912
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,759
Speaker 2: I think he came at a time where I'm sure

1913
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 2: he thought this this is from an interview or from

1914
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 2: that maybe it's from that that last episode, but I

1915
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 2: think he thought he was coming and he would be

1916
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:13,719
Speaker 2: this guy that could talk to everybody, talk to both sides,

1917
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 2: engage with the ideas rigorously and challenge them, but also

1918
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 2: have empathy for the people.

1919
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 1: And boy, did you pick.

1920
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:29,759
Speaker 4: The wrong time for that, because he had some guests

1921
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 4: and people lost their goddamn mind.

1922
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,600
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, Tim Scott was on the show, like

1923
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 2: maybe a month ago or something, the Black Republican Tim Scott,

1924
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 2: promoting his book or something, and of course Trevor was

1925
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 2: challenging him and stuff. But I think we're at the

1926
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: point now where people are like, don't even talk to

1927
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: people like they if they got some views you don't

1928
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 2: agree with, some ship you don't like about them, do

1929
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 2: not even have that motherfucker on your show. And I

1930
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: think because we've lived a lifetime in America, we see

1931
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 2: the climate for what it is.

1932
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:02,559
Speaker 1: I'm very much on that page.

1933
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want Tommy Lauren to come on The Blackout

1934
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 2: Tips anymore than I want to go on a show

1935
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 2: like that of hers. You know, no matter what I

1936
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 2: think I could do for me, I would rather just

1937
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 2: I'd rather not have what it could do then. And

1938
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 2: so I feel like that's a big thing that he

1939
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 2: probably wanted out of that show, just from some of

1940
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 2: his own statements, and it just never came to fruition

1941
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 2: and maybe that was disheartening, and then of course pandemic.

1942
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 1: He had vocals throat.

1943
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 2: Surgery during his tenure there, And I'd love to see,

1944
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 2: you know, somebody else get the chance in that chair

1945
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:46,639
Speaker 2: that maybe now that we've had Trevor, we've had John Craig,

1946
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 2: Cloib Warren when it first started, but I kind of

1947
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: think maybe we get to see like either woman or.

1948
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: My personal choice is Boywood Jr.

1949
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 2: If he can get it, because he's as a person

1950
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:04,840
Speaker 2: that watches the show, he's a standout to me, Like

1951
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:08,080
Speaker 2: every fucking segment he does is like.

1952
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: You're gonna laugh.

1953
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 2: And he's also at that age now where he ain't

1954
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 2: really taking shit off of people and he ain't trying

1955
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: to like please nobody, and.

1956
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 1: I love that about his stand up. I love that

1957
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 1: about him as a person.

1958
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,800
Speaker 2: His podcast, like Roy will say some real shit so

1959
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 2: fast you almost you almost like, do he just say

1960
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 2: what that was a little too real, Roy, you know?

1961
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 2: And I love that about him. And yeah, he can

1962
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 2: still be funny and make you laugh and stuff, but

1963
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 2: I'd love to see him get a chot at it

1964
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 2: if it's something he wants to do.

1965
01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 1: You know people were floating his name. It's like a

1966
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:46,639
Speaker 1: replacement for just like.

1967
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 2: A late night like the late night, the late show,

1968
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 2: you know type of thing. So so we'll see what

1969
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 2: happens with that. But yeah, man, I just didn't I

1970
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 2: just wanted to give Trevor Noah his flowers because that

1971
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 2: dude man.

1972
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: Like more importantly, he seemed like a stand up dude.

1973
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 2: Like I didn't work with him. I don't know, behind

1974
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:07,600
Speaker 2: the scenes maybe or some shit. I just don't know,

1975
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 2: but he seemed like a pretty stand up dude. I

1976
01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 2: remember when they when the pandemic started and he was

1977
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: paying people.

1978
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,719
Speaker 1: Out of his pocket and shit to keep the show

1979
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:19,719
Speaker 1: going and stuff.

1980
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 2: And the other thing I respect about him is he

1981
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 2: never really lost the hope of talking to people. And

1982
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 2: that's a hard fucking thing to keep a hold of,

1983
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 2: maybe even foolishly at times, but he never really lost

1984
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,160
Speaker 2: the hope of being able to communicate with all types

1985
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 2: of people. But we just don't live in a world

1986
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 2: where it's not the Democrats that won't come on this show.

1987
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 1: It's just there's a lot of people that.

1988
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 2: Won't come on his show and won't talk to him,

1989
01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: and won't that just consider him a problem and too

1990
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 2: woke and too Twitter friendly and all this other shit.

1991
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's just a fucking headache. He could just

1992
01:41:56,840 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 2: go be handsome, dude, stand up being movies and shit.

1993
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 2: Probably never think about this ship again if you don't want.

1994
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,280
Speaker 4: To so the world and live his best life.

1995
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he fought a good fight. Man. Seven years.

1996
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 4: That's a pretty that's a pretty long time.

1997
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1998
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:16,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, So all right, let's move into something else.

1999
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Uh. I can save some of these for uh oh ship.

2000
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 1: This should have been an LGBTQ news or should it.

2001
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2002
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:28,680
Speaker 2: You know what, Fuck it, let's talk about it. We're

2003
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,680
Speaker 2: talking about ship today, everybody. We're talking about ship. All right,

2004
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 2: let's do it one of them episodes. It might not

2005
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:37,599
Speaker 2: even be no more segments. We just talking about things.

2006
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:38,639
Speaker 4: We just talk about ship.

2007
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 2: Meek Mill uh huh believes dub Baby.

2008
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: It's being the blackballed by the music industry.

2009
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 4: Who wrote this possible?

2010
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 1: I actually that sounds like something.

2011
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 4: That's why one of their.

2012
01:42:55,840 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 1: Headlines so I I that's not what the headlines said.

2013
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 1: I said the black ball. I just thought it would be.

2014
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,960
Speaker 2: Funny and it was hilarious. Double XL wrote the headline

2015
01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 2: the real headlines meet. Mill believes the baby is being

2016
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 2: blatantly blackballed by the music industry.

2017
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I like mine better too.

2018
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 2: It was a little executive decision, but so Meek Mill

2019
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:22,439
Speaker 2: has a theory about the babies recently fall from recent

2020
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,839
Speaker 2: fall from prominence, and the Philadelphia rapper believes that are people.

2021
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes sabotaging his colleagues career.

2022
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

2023
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: He says, they blatantly blackballing the baby. Not my business.

2024
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm an observer.

2025
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 4: Who the industry?

2026
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Who the industry?

2027
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 3: They?

2028
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: Whoever they is? Care them?

2029
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 4: Them people.

2030
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how he came to the conclusion, which

2031
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 2: them it was, and how and all that stuff.

2032
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: But them, they they got the baby. Y'all.

2033
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 2: Okay, he was just minding his business, and all of

2034
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 2: a sudden they said, let's just blackbot this man for

2035
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:04,639
Speaker 2: no reason.

2036
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:10,439
Speaker 1: He didn't do nothing. Boosie also got into it. Oh,

2037
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 1: ain't no way, my nigga.

2038
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 2: The baby's supposed to sell sixteen K after selling almost

2039
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:18,439
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty k his last first week. He

2040
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 2: one of the biggest in this shit. Don't know what's

2041
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 2: going on, but something is definitely going on. What do

2042
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 2: you think is going on can.

2043
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:36,840
Speaker 4: M what was it this summer he was coming out

2044
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 4: and performing and said some homophobic things and double down

2045
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 4: and his PR person put out apology and then he

2046
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 4: turned around and was like, not didn't mean that shit,

2047
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 4: And you know, I said, I've just been looking, you know,

2048
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 4: because I said I don't. I haven't really listened to

2049
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 4: his music, So, uh, this is kind of somebody on

2050
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 4: the outside. So from there you go to him doing

2051
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 4: shows and them not selling down and then him falling

2052
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 4: out with Megan thee Stallion and a lot of her fans.

2053
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 4: Was a lot of his fans, which was a lot

2054
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 4: of black women and a lot of you know, LGBTQ

2055
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 4: and gay people. They love Megan two and so a

2056
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:24,560
Speaker 4: lot of people his fan base, and a lot of

2057
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 4: his music that actually was like some of his highest

2058
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 4: selling stuff was collaborations with somebody else, Like it was

2059
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 4: never him alone. People have a tendency to forget that,

2060
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 4: and so this was like one of the first times

2061
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 4: where he was quote unquote, this is my music, this

2062
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 4: is me And it was one of those things when

2063
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:43,360
Speaker 4: me and you had talked about in the car and

2064
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:47,240
Speaker 4: you bought a good point. Most people like fun shit

2065
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 4: and when shit stops being fun, people don't want to

2066
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 4: be around it anymore.

2067
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people want to give

2068
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 2: credit to like the LGBTQ community, which if they do,

2069
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: that's fine.

2070
01:45:55,520 --> 01:46:00,719
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say it's.

2071
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 2: Like a company all those things. Yeah, maybe he just

2072
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 2: extremely overrated. How many LGBTQ people were actually supporting him

2073
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 2: as a fan base, coming in his concerts, paying for

2074
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 2: his merch and streaming his music.

2075
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: That could be absolutely true, especially with him.

2076
01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 2: At least in my circle, my very select circle of

2077
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 2: people I see on social media, there were people that

2078
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 2: were fans of his book.

2079
01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 4: Cut and Not.

2080
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm so proud of this joke. And I

2081
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 2: know y'all are probably tired of fucking hear this joke,

2082
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: but it's my favorite. It may be my favorite joke

2083
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:40,560
Speaker 2: that I've ever made. It made, but it's anytime he

2084
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 2: does something fucked up, I'll go starting to suspect that

2085
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 2: the baby isn't an intersectional feminist, which is ah, I

2086
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 2: love this joke. It It never gets old because he's

2087
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 2: always doing some shit. But I remember people that were

2088
01:46:54,439 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 2: into like that type of intersectional feminism and you know,

2089
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 2: womanism and very like pro black stuff, being like he's

2090
01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 2: an example of what masculinity, healthy masculinity should be. He's

2091
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 2: an example of protecting black women because he supported Megan

2092
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 2: thee Stallion at.

2093
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: First when she was allegedly shot by Tory Lanes.

2094
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: He was one of the first people that had her

2095
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 2: back at first, and people were like, this is what

2096
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 2: we need from these industry niggas. And I remember when

2097
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 2: the fake news leaked somebody, they were all of a sudden,

2098
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 2: it was, oh, he got a big digg And that's

2099
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 2: because you.

2100
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: Know, oh the baby I see. You know, it's a

2101
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,679
Speaker 1: lot of like lusting over him.

2102
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 2: And then excusing every you know, everything is he's slapping

2103
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:45,519
Speaker 2: somebody that didn't really happen. He's but I think when

2104
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:48,519
Speaker 2: he said that anti gay shit is concert doubled down

2105
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 2: on social media basically essentially asked to be canceled. A

2106
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:58,719
Speaker 2: bunch of venues started canceling his concerts and ship. Then

2107
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 2: he issued that like statement apology that to me seemed

2108
01:48:02,520 --> 01:48:03,840
Speaker 2: like he clearly didn't even write.

2109
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: And then he also.

2110
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Continued to get in more shit than he like supported

2111
01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:17,799
Speaker 2: Tory Lanez at like a concert where he was performing,

2112
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 2: like after Megan thee Stallion. He brought Tory Lanes up

2113
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 2: as his surprise.

2114
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: Guess so, like to me, he just I don't find

2115
01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:27,520
Speaker 1: these things.

2116
01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 2: To be incredibly egregious in the idea of hip hop.

2117
01:48:31,360 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 2: I think hip hop niggas do shit like this all

2118
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:38,480
Speaker 2: the time, you know the you know, I'm gonna be misogynistic,

2119
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be homophobic.

2120
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck.

2121
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm not apologizing, but uh, I was all we were

2122
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 2: talking about this last night. I was just like, I

2123
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: just think with a lot of stuff, it's not that deep.

2124
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 2: It's not fun, and it's not like, you know, I'm

2125
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 2: not even trying to make it about his skill level.

2126
01:48:58,520 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: I know he got a lot of songs that kind

2127
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 2: to sound the same to my ear. But I mean

2128
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 2: he had fans.

2129
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 1: I guess you know.

2130
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 2: He was. He was that he was really good on

2131
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 2: that song under the Sun. But it feels to me

2132
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 2: like it's, uh, it feels to me like it's kind

2133
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 2: of like a.

2134
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 1: One of those like, all right, so this dude is

2135
01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:23,799
Speaker 1: not the fun distraction.

2136
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 2: He was like just showing up, dancing in the panthers

2137
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 2: and being on songs with everybody else.

2138
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 4: That's how he came on my radar because I will

2139
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 4: just go online. It would be dancing. That's that. And

2140
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,000
Speaker 4: so the songs that idea hear with the clips with

2141
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 4: the things that were online.

2142
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,960
Speaker 2: Like because the assumption is like big gay got rid

2143
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 2: of him, and I was like, well, big Gay, I mean, look,

2144
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,920
Speaker 2: maybe that's the case. I'm not saying it's not. But

2145
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,840
Speaker 2: if that's the case, it's a lot of niggas living

2146
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 2: off of It's a lot of people big gay.

2147
01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Let slide.

2148
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 4: It's a lot of niggas Big gay. Wish they could

2149
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 4: it took out a long time ag.

2150
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if this is the new level, then they

2151
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: they got a lot.

2152
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 2: They gotta have a list like Aria start because a

2153
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:09,719
Speaker 2: lot of motherfuckers got passes.

2154
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 1: If so, I don't even you know, I really uh.

2155
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 2: And one of the reason I don't want to promote

2156
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 2: the narrative that they got them is because it adds

2157
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 2: to the fake victimization of black men, straight black men

2158
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 2: that go.

2159
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 1: See this is what happened. You talk bad about gay people.

2160
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 2: Next thing you know, you can't get no jobs. It's

2161
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 2: like Dave Chappelle is right there and doing great better

2162
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 2: than all of us.

2163
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 4: Don't come out with it. With with a new Thing

2164
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 4: next month.

2165
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:43,200
Speaker 2: But you know that Dave Chappelle will be doing this

2166
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 2: ship in his next stand up about how the baby.

2167
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 2: I think he already did one where he said the

2168
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:50,400
Speaker 2: baby was a victim kind of so I kind of.

2169
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 2: So it's not to try to act like LGBTQ people

2170
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 2: don't have power, because maybe that was it, But I

2171
01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: don't particularly want to promote that narrative because I think

2172
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:04,040
Speaker 2: it's this really weird scapegoading of gay people that happens,

2173
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 2: especially black gay people. Of these motherfuckers have no power,

2174
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 2: but they're also the most awesomest, strongest power. And how

2175
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 2: if a black man homophobic, they gonna you ain't never

2176
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 2: gonna work against.

2177
01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 1: Like all these niggas got jobs, right.

2178
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what this dude did the fuck up

2179
01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 2: his bag, this bag, other than the only thing he

2180
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,599
Speaker 2: had going for him was he was a good time.

2181
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 4: He was he was a party, he was a good time.

2182
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,120
Speaker 2: He was a bos And now when you look up,

2183
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 2: it's like he not he not a good time no more.

2184
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody trying to buy no motherfucking albums? And shit,

2185
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 2: you know, ain't nobody trying to streaming no more go

2186
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 2: to this concert. So that's my guess, but who knows.

2187
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm not an expert. And meet mill h meet mill.

2188
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: Uh really.

2189
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 2: Really think it's unfortunate, what like this nigga got out

2190
01:51:56,479 --> 01:51:59,400
Speaker 2: of jail and it's just not been Uh.

2191
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:01,679
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people.

2192
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 2: I kind of hope that he was like gonna come

2193
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 2: out of jail more like politically active in that type

2194
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 2: of like in a in a more I guess liberal

2195
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 2: or informed way. But that well, no, not just that,

2196
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 2: but I just don't I think he was interested in

2197
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 2: his cause. Agree like I won't out of jail, so

2198
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm for reform and I'm for all this other shit

2199
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 2: and that affects him, but like being black and gay

2200
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 2: don't affect him. A dude going on stage talking about

2201
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:36,200
Speaker 2: HIV and a's and saying gay people have sex they

2202
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 2: because they that and it's undertaken because they nasty and

2203
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 2: ship like that.

2204
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: No, that's what you don't remember what a little baby?

2205
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 1: What the baby said?

2206
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:49,800
Speaker 4: I remember him talking about uh when he was on stage,

2207
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 4: so he said something else other than.

2208
01:52:51,400 --> 01:52:52,639
Speaker 1: No, it was when he was on stage.

2209
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,559
Speaker 4: It's like, okay, okay, all that was together.

2210
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's talking about people gets and then and then

2211
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 2: the part about my fans don't do that because they

2212
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 2: have protected sex and stuff like that. That was in

2213
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 2: his video on Instagram, quote unquote apology that he really

2214
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:10,639
Speaker 2: doubled down.

2215
01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 4: Okay, and that's what I seen.

2216
01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, like, you know, but he was like, if

2217
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: y'all suck at digging the parking a lot, you know,

2218
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: that's not whatever the word was that he was using,

2219
01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, so I think this is kind

2220
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:27,720
Speaker 1: of chicken coming home the roost. You're not a good

2221
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 1: time anymore. You made a lot of people just go,

2222
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 1: you know, what, party is over. Let me put my

2223
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 1: let me take my pack my food up and get

2224
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: the fuck out of here.

2225
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 2: Let me wrap this up in some aluminum full and

2226
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,720
Speaker 2: all about who got theer maid trying to pack the

2227
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 2: place up?

2228
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 4: Guys.

2229
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's literally what happened to the dude.

2230
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 2: And yeah, he fucked up his own bag, and yeah,

2231
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:56,960
Speaker 2: that's it. Too many other homophobic motherfuckers out here making

2232
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 2: a living for me to feel like big gay shut

2233
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 2: him down. But that's the level of discourse that we

2234
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 2: have within the community right now.

2235
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 1: It's a lot of.

2236
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, black men should not face consequences

2237
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,760
Speaker 2: for ship. Yeah, you know, like I think that's the

2238
01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 2: email Doka thing, you know, that's that's this. You know,

2239
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 2: it's like a lot of just why the fuck are

2240
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 2: we facing consequences for anything we should do. A white

2241
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 2: man could get away with this or some ship like that,

2242
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 2: you know, if any white man could get away with it,

2243
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 2: then every black man should, you know. But uh yeah,

2244
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 2: good luck to the people that uh yeah, good luck

2245
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 2: to to everybody.

2246
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the last thing.

2247
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 2: Let's do some sory ratchingess we've already talked almost two hours,

2248
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 2: that's right. Sword rats in this time, we go around

2249
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 2: the glove, find different articles involved in these swords, and

2250
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 2: then we comment on them and we'll let you know

2251
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 2: we're thinking. We try to spread awareness about stopping the

2252
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 2: scourge that is sword violence all over the world. A

2253
01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: sword will and robbery suspect was arrested and charging Abbotsford.

2254
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna believe how this fucking sword looks, y'all.

2255
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 1: This is the sword.

2256
01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 4: Oh what the fuck kid designed that this?

2257
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: First of all, this ship looked like a sword from

2258
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,240
Speaker 1: fucking like uh power rangers.

2259
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 4: It does like a shop like it's sword on an anime.

2260
01:55:49,960 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's rainbow. No, it's like Horners, It's like

2261
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 1: the Hornets colors.

2262
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 4: It's like a sailor moon sword.

2263
01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the handles like all wrapped in cloth

2264
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 1: and shoe strings, like like a dangerous sword.

2265
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 2: I do want to see the outfit of the person

2266
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:13,280
Speaker 2: that was wielding this sword, because I feel like, you know,

2267
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 2: it must have been they must have They probably was

2268
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:21,360
Speaker 2: matched down to the floor. You know, if I had

2269
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: everything going, it was like listen, okay, what I we

2270
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 2: am gonna do is uh stun on these hos.

2271
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I will on this jersey to go with this,

2272
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 1: because you know, that's how I get down. But yeah,

2273
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 1: it is.

2274
01:56:36,840 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 2: That's that's terrible and I'm scared. Okay, So Sergeant Paul Walker,

2275
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what is going on? Sergeant Paul Walker?

2276
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:52,480
Speaker 2: Ain't that the same Paul? Wasn't it the name of

2277
01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 2: the dude from The Fast and Furious.

2278
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 4: I don't know what.

2279
01:56:55,840 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 1: I must have been upset about family, But Paul Walker

2280
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:01,879
Speaker 1: went to a robbery?

2281
01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 3: What was this?

2282
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 2: How we find out Paul Walker secretly alive? He's just

2283
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 2: a cop now he's undercover. That's just like the fast

2284
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 2: and furious I hope, he said. A man at the

2285
01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 2: gas station again to steal items, swung the sword of

2286
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 2: the employee who confronted him, and then the corport ran away.

2287
01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Oh what kind of sound sound do you have to

2288
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,080
Speaker 1: make when you swing this sword to people?

2289
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 4: Oh that's a good question. You'd be one up. Yeah,

2290
01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 4: like you get an extra hard like I want to

2291
01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 4: know what your bonus points.

2292
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:46,000
Speaker 1: What this sword sounded like? Right like? I just feel

2293
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:48,040
Speaker 1: like that's the only way to guess it.

2294
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 4: I already got to have a ongoing sound effect, right.

2295
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 5: Like.

2296
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 2: You gotta do it, like your outfit changes, A helmet

2297
01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 2: comes out of nowhere.

2298
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:58,760
Speaker 4: Do dance every time you put it out.

2299
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: Right, somebody starts break dancing in the background.

2300
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 2: There's gonna be some magical l's that float around you,

2301
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 2: a fairies or something gonna pop out right.

2302
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 1: You gotta move real slow and then move real fast,

2303
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, of course.

2304
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 2: And when you pull out the sword, inner monologue starts

2305
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 2: speaking out loud, you know, like, oh no, he's using

2306
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,200
Speaker 2: his katana technique.

2307
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready for this. Then a

2308
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 1: flashback starts, Master.

2309
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 5: Jones, you never told me the flash technique that sort

2310
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 5: look like he got a name right, Yes, this.

2311
01:58:44,120 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 1: Soil like like optimist Prime fights with it.

2312
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you can't get the leadership man or the

2313
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 2: matrix unless you got the sword, the sword of the

2314
01:58:58,240 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 2: chosen One.

2315
01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 1: They said.

2316
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:02,520
Speaker 2: The arrested the man within twelve minutes of the call. Remarkably,

2317
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 2: although extremely shaking, the star Clerk was not injured.

2318
01:59:06,760 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 1: Jared with them.

2319
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,040
Speaker 2: Thirty of abbots for It has now been charged with

2320
01:59:10,120 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 2: rivaly resistant a peace officer breaching his probation remains in

2321
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 2: custody each day. Officers flying to a shop to shoplift

2322
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 2: the related calls with the suspects of often carrying weapons.

2323
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 2: These these calls pose a risk of public safety within

2324
01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 2: our community, said Walker. Many of these incidents are repead

2325
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:29,360
Speaker 2: finders being continuously released back into our community.

2326
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 1: Oh listen, that's just the story of justice, and you

2327
01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: need to get used to it, buddy.

2328
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 2: Okay, calm down, calm you ticks. Okay, we're putting people

2329
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 2: back on the streets.

2330
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing now.

2331
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,440
Speaker 2: That's what the activists want. It's what black Twitter is for.

2332
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 2: And I'm and god damn not support them. Okay, it's

2333
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,840
Speaker 2: I got you back everybody. Sometimes you're just gonna have

2334
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 2: to deal with the sword at seven eleven because we

2335
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 2: don't we don't want to, can't tell them between the

2336
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 2: color of the sword and the candy out and all

2337
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 2: it's the same color, because we there's no such thing

2338
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 2: as a good prosecutor, Okay, So we're just gonna have

2339
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:05,520
Speaker 2: to deal with a couple.

2340
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:07,480
Speaker 1: This is a couple of soreds about the seventh by

2341
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:12,080
Speaker 1: the over by the front surer, about the slurping machine. Okay,

2342
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 1: get you, get you one of them hot dogs been

2343
02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:17,120
Speaker 1: sitting down today, and and then maybe a stabbing, a

2344
02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 1: white stabbing to go.

2345
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:23,879
Speaker 2: H accord to the to the provincial databack court database

2346
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,880
Speaker 2: for bc with them. Had several other charges still before

2347
02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 2: the courts for breaking and entering, possession of stolen property, theft,

2348
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:35,400
Speaker 2: resistant a peace officer, dealing with identity document without lawful excuse,

2349
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 2: and breaching a release order. And those offenses all occurred

2350
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. So, uh,

2351
02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 2: you got a reason to go to Texico. You might

2352
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,800
Speaker 2: see them there, because you might. Apparently Canada's letting.

2353
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 1: People back out like hotcakes.

2354
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:51,240
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what the joint is.

2355
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: Ain't no need to be in Canada, ain't no need

2356
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 1: to be mean. Let these people eat. Okay, all right, y'all,

2357
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 1: that's it. Thank you for listening. So whatever this was,

2358
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 1: we appreciate y'all.

2359
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:06,000
Speaker 2: I know this wasn't a normal episode episode. We talked

2360
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 2: in a wide arranging, long ad form about a lot of.

2361
02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:10,640
Speaker 1: Stuff that may be made sense to you.

2362
02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 2: Maybe it didn't, but at least you got our perspective

2363
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 2: on it, and you probably didn't hear that perspective anywhere else.

2364
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 4: Yep.

2365
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, until next time, I love you too.

2366
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 4: Come