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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast. George Nori with you.

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Speaker 3: James Fox with us as we were going to talk

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Speaker 3: about his new documentary called Moment of Contact, New Revelations

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Speaker 3: of Alien Contact and this has to do with an

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Speaker 3: episode in Virginia, Brazil that happened back in nineteen ninety six.

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Speaker 3: James tell us what happened.

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Speaker 4: Hey, thanks again. It's New Revelations of Alien Encounters. And

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Speaker 4: one thing I would love to mention very quickly for

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Speaker 4: those of you who want to watch it. This is

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Speaker 4: something I just found out about a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 4: You have to turn on the subtitles because the first

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Speaker 4: twenty minutes is all in English, and then after that

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Speaker 4: people have been complaining, I can't read this, there's no subtitles. Well,

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Speaker 4: the way that Bitmax organize it is that you have

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Speaker 4: to engage, you have to actively engage and put the

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Speaker 4: subtitles on. But yeah, you know, I I didn't believe

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Speaker 4: it when I heard about the case. Back in the

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Speaker 4: late nineties, I was working on Out of the Blue

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Speaker 4: and I had a new partner, I had my old

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Speaker 4: partner Borse. We still partners to this day. And I

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Speaker 4: had a new partner, this British guy named Tim Coleman,

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Speaker 4: and I was mapping out as I do, as one does.

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Speaker 4: I was mapping out the film. You know, I take

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Speaker 4: really broad strokes when I proposing an idea for a documentary,

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Speaker 4: and I, you know, I'll get a chalkboard or something,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, Hey, I'm going to cover the

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Speaker 4: Phoenix Lights, or let's cover a little bit of Roswell,

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Speaker 4: or how about bent Waters or you know, or Tehran

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Speaker 4: Iron in the seventies. And my buddy goes, he's a

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Speaker 4: new partner. He goes, yeah, you know, mate, there's this

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Speaker 4: incredible case. It happened in Brazil and these live ails.

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Speaker 4: It was a UFO grash with these live aliens walking

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Speaker 4: through the town. And I'm not kidding you, George. I

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Speaker 4: literally thought to myself immediately, like complete immediate reaction was

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Speaker 4: this guy's out of his bloody mind. I picked I

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Speaker 4: clearly picked the wrong partner because this guy is unstable

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Speaker 4: mentally and I will have nothing to do with that case.

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Speaker 4: And I refuse to read one sentence because I thought

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Speaker 4: it can't be Therefore it isn't. And years and years

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Speaker 4: and years later when I was when I made the

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Speaker 4: first cut of Moment of Contact. My buddy Tim lives

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Speaker 4: in Egypt now part Egypt and a little bit of London.

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Speaker 2: He called me.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you know, buddy, how mate, I was

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Speaker 4: the one that told you about that case and you absolutely,

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Speaker 4: you know, dismissed it so quickly, and I was so

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Speaker 4: cross with you, and you know, and I said, you know, Tim,

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Speaker 4: You're right, I did. I did dismiss that.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, I'm going to give you a

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Speaker 4: special thanks in the credits. And he really actually appreciated

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Speaker 4: that because he was the one that introduced me to

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Speaker 4: the case. I just refused to look into it. And

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you, over ten years went by. I made

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Speaker 4: Out of the Then I did a director's cut Out

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Speaker 4: of the Blue. That took me a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: Then I made the two hour special I know what

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Speaker 4: I saw for the History Channel.

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Speaker 1: Well I sold it.

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Speaker 4: I did it on spec and sold it to the

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Speaker 4: History Channel. And then I was invited to Brazil and

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Speaker 4: it was probably two thousand and ten or twenty eleven,

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Speaker 4: and I was going to this place called Betro Web

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Speaker 4: and it was a conference put on by Ajjavar, and

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Speaker 4: I was like, well, hell, I've never been to Brazil.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to go to Brazil. I'd invited as all

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Speaker 4: expenses paid. And so I was talking to a buddy

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Speaker 4: of mine who's been very helpful in you know, distribution,

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Speaker 4: just over the years. And his name is Jeff Sigansky.

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Speaker 4: He used to run Sunny Pictures.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Jeff's a good guy.

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Speaker 4: Yep, Jeft's a great guy. And Jeff goes, oh, James,

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Speaker 4: you're going to Brazil again. This was like twenty eleven,

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Speaker 4: and I heard about the late nineties, so this is

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Speaker 4: like at least twelve years later. I hear this. You know,

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Speaker 4: You got to look into that Virginia case in Brazil

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Speaker 4: where the live aliens. And I thought, oh, my lord,

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Speaker 4: not this. I can't believe Jeff. I have so much

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Speaker 4: and I said, well, when I get to Brazil, I'll

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Speaker 4: You got a buddy click And I was like, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that ain't gonna happen. I get to Brazil. I'm in

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Speaker 4: a place called Betoebe and I remember sitting out. They

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Speaker 4: They had these restaurants. It would spill out onto the

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Speaker 4: these cars they're going up and down the strip and

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Speaker 4: these cars are drive by, and Stanton Friedman was with

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Speaker 4: us and we're all having like we're having pizza. They

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Speaker 4: Brazil has chocolate pizza and there's like chocolate pizza coming out.

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Speaker 4: Stanton free eating chocolate pizza and I'm talking and there

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Speaker 4: are these cars that would drive by. It was like

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Speaker 4: rolling the strip back and forth with this really loud

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Speaker 4: music is very uh, you know, upsetting her. Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: But the topic of Vargenia came up, and again I

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Speaker 4: just have nothing but respect for Stanton Friedman. And Stanton

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Speaker 4: looked at me and he's like, yeah, you don't know

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Speaker 4: about Varginia. And I said, well, yeah, I mean I've

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Speaker 4: I looked into it. I think it might have been

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Speaker 4: so that had been like four to six years after

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Speaker 4: that it could just turn out to be the roswell

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be so dismissive. And it was because of

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Speaker 4: Stanton primarily, and obviously if I met this other guy,

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Speaker 4: Marc o'leal that that I said, okay, I'll look into it.

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Speaker 4: I really will look into it.

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Speaker 3: When I found so fascinating about the cases, there are

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Speaker 3: so many witnesses who corroborate each other, and they didn't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, so I'll quickly give an overview of it.

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Speaker 4: In January of nineteen ninety six, it's probably Honor. Around

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Speaker 4: mid January of nineteen ninety six, a number of people

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Speaker 4: witnessed a cigar shaped craft about a little larger than

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Speaker 4: visible propulsion, It had no wings, no tail. Some witnesses

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Speaker 4: I interviewed a couple of farmers, or Lena de Fretas

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Speaker 4: the case, I got Google Maps, and I started getting

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Speaker 4: the locations of all the various people that witnessed the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I found the white house with the drone actually

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Speaker 4: I just recently, just a few weeks ago, I was

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Speaker 4: thirtieth anniversary. People are speculating how the entities either they

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Speaker 4: And there's lots of speculation, but in any case, roughly

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Speaker 4: a week later, on the twentieth of January, three girls

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Speaker 4: Or yeah, I did, the mother, the mother who saw

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Speaker 4: other people in town. There was allegations of an earlier

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Speaker 4: the afternoon. In fact of these creatures, these creatures were scared,

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Speaker 4: they were cowering in fear. They could communicate through the

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Speaker 4: eyes somewhat telepathically. One of the women, actually all women

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Speaker 4: contact with this creature. It was like three and a

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Speaker 4: half to four feet tall. It has been stimilid eyes

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Speaker 4: right with red eyes. Now, the interesting thing, and I'll

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Speaker 4: But we had been trying to get to the former

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Speaker 4: chief of Police. Pedro agriad for a long time, for

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Speaker 4: years and years and years, and he almost he almost

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Speaker 4: the bathtub. Like you know, people are conflicted, they want

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Speaker 2: But Drew got him this time.

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Speaker 4: We got him this time. But that but but here's

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Speaker 4: the interesting thing is that I found out that there

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Speaker 4: is another uh capture in the morning and now for

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Speaker 4: the first time, we got because he said, he goes

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Speaker 4: I was, I was. I participated in the incident. I participated,

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Speaker 4: I saw the creature was under He was describing it

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Speaker 4: really in vague terms. It's like he didn't want he

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Speaker 4: wanted to talk about it, but he didn't want to

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Speaker 4: former chief of police, kids, his his wife now a widow,

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Speaker 4: he told us that he saw the creature that he

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Speaker 4: was he participated, but he wouldn't go into much more detail.

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Speaker 4: It was as if he was trying to protect us.

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Speaker 4: And our father was a chief of police. He went

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Speaker 4: after drug dealers. He was he packed a gun. He

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Speaker 4: wasn't afraid of anybody, but apparently he was terrified of

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Speaker 4: the men in dark suits. That's what the kids just

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Speaker 4: told me a few weeks ago. But in any case,

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Speaker 4: so there was a morning capture and afternoon capture, and

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of speculation that there were a lot

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Speaker 4: more than that, but those are we have two information,

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Speaker 2: And one of the creatures died, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: There's another creature that died, but there were two key

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Speaker 4: creatures that we were ninety nine point nine percent sure

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Speaker 4: that we're both alive.

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Speaker 2: That witness he said that somebody from the United States

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Speaker 2: Air Force flew in and took their bodies and took yes,

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Speaker 2: it took the creatures right.

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Speaker 4: Like Flight control Officer Marcos Ferres f r E r

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Speaker 4: E s R f e r E. S Uh said

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Speaker 4: of January and ann ousaf is what he called it

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Speaker 4: plane was coming in from America, and it didn't have

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Speaker 4: and they didn't have it. And just when he was

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Speaker 4: going to deny entry to the USAF airplane, a high

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Speaker 4: let the plane land, and it landed in Campenas. Now,

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Speaker 4: all the witnesses that we talked to said the creatures

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Speaker 4: were taken from one hospital, which is hospital regional, to

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Speaker 4: another hospital, hospital humanited to us, and there was another

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Speaker 4: one bonapart or something.

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Speaker 3: But you had a doctor who invited you to that hospital,

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Speaker 3: did you not?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So we

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Speaker 4: had known from previous testimony in you know, much earlier

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Speaker 4: than twenty twenty two, for the first cut of the

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Speaker 4: film that there was definitely at least one that was

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Speaker 4: brought to regional hospital, but unfortunately we just couldn't get

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Speaker 4: We'd had some staff members, some nurses say yeah, that

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Speaker 4: it happened. There's a plack out front saying that it happened,

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Speaker 4: but we didn't have any firsthand eyewitness testimony until now.

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Speaker 2: And it was alive, right, It was alive.

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Speaker 4: It was alive, and it was the morning capture. So

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Speaker 4: we I think that that being was captured by the

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Speaker 4: fire department and there were the police of the Chief

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Speaker 4: of Police Pedro Agudyar witnessed that event. We have that

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Speaker 4: whole story now and brought that creature to regional hospital

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Speaker 4: in the morning and they caught it with a net.

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Speaker 4: But there was another allegedly that was one of them

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Speaker 4: that was shot and that one died. We have testimony

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Speaker 4: of the person that witnessed that one. He was part

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