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Speaker 1: Your tunees about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation. How we doing well? That's good

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Speaker 2: us too. It's been a fun start to the week here.

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Speaker 2: That will continue today, that'll continue throughout the week. It's very,

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Speaker 2: very easy to come up with topics to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, we have been touched on around the league too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there certainly is more to come and plenty more

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Speaker 2: to come. And I think a real fun part is

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Speaker 2: once we get through this week, because there'll be a

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Speaker 2: second wave of free agency here too. Once we get

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Speaker 2: through this week, Matt, then we can really start to

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Speaker 2: focus on the draft with an even more narrowed focus.

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Speaker 2: But I think that already started yesterday because you go

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Speaker 2: out and you acquire a wide receiver, you sign a

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Speaker 2: clear cut starter Foundrey corner, and the.

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Speaker 3: Corner was obvious a priority. Yeah right right. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if they even draft a corner now, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: And I still think they probably will, and they'll still

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Speaker 2: draft a wide receiver, but now they'll definite draft widers.

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Speaker 2: It picked twenty one, all options are on the table.

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Speaker 2: At pick fifty three, all options are on the table, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Last night, you fired up your own little mock draft simulation.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curi. Let's do three rounds, let's see what

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Speaker 3: they get. We'll go and pro football focus and see

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Speaker 3: what happens and what kind of hall would you add

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Speaker 3: to the team now if they didn't sign anybody else.

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Speaker 3: As the way I looked at it.

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Speaker 2: And what happened was you ended up trading the Steelers

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Speaker 2: first round pick out of spot twenty one for an

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Speaker 2: extra second round pick and two extra third round picks.

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Speaker 3: One of which is next year's Arizona nine twenty bad team. Yeah, somebody,

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Speaker 3: some bad team.

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Speaker 2: So in your mock last night, you traded out of

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Speaker 2: spot twenty one four pick thirty four sixty five, So

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Speaker 2: the Steelers have pick thirty four fifty three sixty five.

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Speaker 2: That five you had four, you had two second rounders

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Speaker 2: and four third rounders, so six.

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Speaker 3: Safe stay two picks and.

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Speaker 2: A third and twenty twenty seven, which could be important

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Speaker 2: capital to help.

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Speaker 3: I definitely want that from the Cargos, an.

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Speaker 2: Early third round pick. Go get your go, get your

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Speaker 2: quarterback of the future with that next year.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes trading down could be cheating, but it was like

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Speaker 3: Arizona offered me this deal. There was honestly like eight

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Speaker 3: to ten names when I came on the board at

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Speaker 3: twenty one. I'm like, I'd be happy with any of those.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed. So we get one.

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Speaker 3: Let's just add a lot of stuff one day two

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Speaker 3: and see what happens. And this is what we ended

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Speaker 3: up with.

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Speaker 2: You know, So what you ended up with was starting

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Speaker 2: with round two pick thirty four, six picks between thirty

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Speaker 2: four and ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Right, which is pretty crazy and a little unrealistic, you know,

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Speaker 3: but you know what wouldn't happen.

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Speaker 2: But maybe a little unrealistic. But if it.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't like I manufactured the trade, it was a fair trade.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you go from twenty one to thirty four,

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Speaker 3: you better get.

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Speaker 2: Some up exactly right. Yeah, And I think of all

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Speaker 2: the years to do it, this might be the year

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Speaker 2: to do it. Because, as everywhere says as much driven,

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Speaker 2: that's the sweet spot in this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you did a bunch of Day two stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: You'll make out pretty well. And I thought I did.

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Speaker 2: You came away with a couple of year draft crushes,

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Speaker 2: a couple of my draft crushes. I really liked how

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Speaker 2: this ended up. So the Steelers first pick, round two,

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Speaker 2: thirty fourth overall, the tackle out of Arizona State, Max E. Nhure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, knowing I had a lot of picks, like I

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Speaker 3: don't have to go receiver, safety or whatever right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put this guy maybe as my left guard

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Speaker 3: on day one, and he might be my left tackle

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Speaker 3: next year. I mean that was kind of the plan

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Speaker 3: because at this point there's no Cmalu, there's you know that.

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Speaker 3: I went on it as if the team was built

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Speaker 3: got six picks on day two, I'm gonna take two

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Speaker 3: offensive linemen get greedy. I mean that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: With pick with the Steelers original second round pick fifty

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Speaker 2: three overall, the Steelers select cornerback out of Arizona Trade

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he's more. I didn't look at

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Speaker 3: I mentioned they might not take a corner. I just

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Speaker 3: kind of looked at him as a defensive back, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's more his style.

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Speaker 2: Both of those top two picks that you take there

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Speaker 2: have some real versatility, yeah, to their game.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not taking taking the corner and putting him

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Speaker 2: Third pick, third round, sixty fifth overall. This was another

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Speaker 2: one of the ones that you picked up in the trade,

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Speaker 2: and this is where the wide receiver goes. Chris Brasel

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Speaker 2: the second out of Tennessee. He's an intriguing one.

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Speaker 3: He is he is, and part of I was torn

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Speaker 3: because at the time Burks was there and brasl was

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Speaker 3: Steelers have two huge guys. Maybe you just want the little, shifty,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, give let's give me one more tower to

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Speaker 2: And he's a tower and that's why I'm very intrigued

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Speaker 2: by him. He's got great traits. Tennessee's offense is so weird.

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Speaker 3: Though, but I figured he has time to learn here.

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Speaker 2: He does certainly does. Yeah, you're not going to necessarily

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Speaker 2: rely on him as a big to play a big

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Speaker 3: Targets a game in Week one, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: The Tennessee wide receivers and quarterbacks are always such an

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Speaker 2: interesting eval for me because they run such a weird

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Speaker 2: It's like the conversation that I had with you when

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Speaker 2: we would talk about Jackson Dart and some of these

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Speaker 3: I didn't like Dart.

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Speaker 2: They run such a weird system that just does not

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Speaker 2: translate to the NFL. Now that doesn't mean the individual

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Speaker 2: players in there can't translate. Different learning curve, but it's

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Speaker 2: more third round picks still, which is pretty Nutchy. And

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Speaker 2: I absolutely love what you did here starting with seventy

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Speaker 2: that I really like me when this this guy three

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Speaker 2: mentioned it to you, so that would have been what

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Speaker 2: and he's like the one guy that gave Zach any

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Speaker 3: Maybe kind of the act of Knows modern day nos

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Speaker 2: Could get him as your fourth selection. I'm thinking, all right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that was a real nice fit.

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Speaker 2: And then, as if I couldn't like it anymore, at

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Speaker 2: pick eighty five, you get one of the guys who

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Speaker 2: I think could be a real steal in this draft,

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Speaker 2: the true off ball linebacker from Texas, Anthony Hill Junior,

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Speaker 2: who in other years I think would be a second

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Speaker 2: and I think it's realistic that he could wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 3: I didn't think he'd make it eighty five I think.

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Speaker 2: He certainly wouldn't be the craziest thing ever if he did.

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Speaker 3: And frankly, I didn't really have intentions of taking a

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Speaker 3: look at it like it's cheating. He'll never get eighty five.

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Speaker 3: But there are a lot of linebackers in this class,

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Speaker 3: and I think that they will fall, and teams that

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Speaker 3: advantage of it. I mean, play special teams for a year.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's Queen's replacements, you know.

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Speaker 2: And you got to you got to evaluate every draft

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Speaker 2: for its strengths and weaknesses.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And all the people that you and I trust

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Speaker 2: the season, think that this is a a a much

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Speaker 2: stronger than usual off ball linebacker class.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and just watching the combine, they all are like

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Speaker 2: I really, you know, it just kind of hit me

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Speaker 2: way too much about it. Not that I'm I'm in

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Speaker 2: a weird place. And I might have said this on

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Speaker 2: the show before. I don't like the Big twelve. Okay,

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Speaker 2: my school plays in the Big twelve, but make no

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Speaker 2: mistake about it, we were the We're the redheaded step child.

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Speaker 2: We were the only East Coast team in the Big

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Speaker 2: twelve for a decade. Cincinnati, and you see, I still weird.

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Speaker 2: It's so weird. It's not a regional fit. I kind

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Speaker 2: of hate it. But it's really the only option, you know,

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Speaker 2: other than staying in the Big Gas. Like, Okay, now

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Speaker 2: you can drive the Cincinnati in four or five hours,

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Speaker 2: but other than that, everyone else in the conference is

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Speaker 2: still seven hundred miles plus away. So don't make it

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Speaker 2: seem like I'm some like I'm one of these Big

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Speaker 2: that conference supremacy is something to be Yeah, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: if you could, if you could go back to the

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Speaker 2: Big East days and put pitt in Virginia Tech and

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Speaker 2: Miami and Louisville back on the schedule, I would be

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Speaker 2: Virginia Tech. I would sign for that in a second.

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Speaker 2: But I just know a lot about the Big twelve

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Speaker 2: because I watched I watch a lot of these guys

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Speaker 2: against w VU for for years at a time. Uh.

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Speaker 2: And man, I think, I think you picked some good

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Speaker 2: ones and then your last pick, which was the Steelers. Uh,

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Speaker 2: this is the comp pick I believe at the end

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Speaker 2: of the third round. Billy Shyroff, the guard out of

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Speaker 3: I don't think I needed them. I mean I took

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Speaker 3: I mentioned the tackle at Arizona at State I was

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Speaker 3: going to start at guard. This guy is a pure

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Speaker 3: guard though Notre Dame guys like always hit the super

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Speaker 3: battle line. They're super battle tested. This sound nuts because

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Speaker 2: Already given you to payfouth hanu right, Like that's not

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Speaker 3: I mean, the thing just happened quick. In this league,

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Speaker 2: Right, right, hey, Harmon, when that time comes, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I loved your thought process. I love the way that

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Speaker 2: Which is probably the way that you should think.

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Speaker 3: But that's the kind of resources you have. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Once and more of it. We've got a bazillion and

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Speaker 3: Huh, we probaly should dress soll We'll do our.

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Speaker 2: Best to roll through those before we round out today's

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Speaker 2: bottom of the show. So still plenty to get to

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Speaker 2: here in our number two West Ruler, Matt Williamson, it

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Speaker 2: is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 4: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here,

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Speaker 4: and while you might not know who your team is

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Speaker 4: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

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Speaker 4: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

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Speaker 4: all the scouts talking. Guess that's why it's been the

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to your tweets in just a moment.

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Speaker 2: But Matt, we have some significant news that we have

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Speaker 2: to discuss in Steelers Land. The Steelers bringing back punter

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Speaker 2: the team. He now returns to Pittsburgh. Remember he had

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Speaker 2: he was here in twenty three. He was right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Big money like this two years ages. That was two

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Speaker 2: I guess had that had that season ending unfortunate injury

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked because Weightman had a good year. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: It was probably not an easy decision between Weightman or Johnston.

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Speaker 3: But Weightman was cheaper, you know, so when in doubt

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Speaker 3: I think that's what it came down to. But I

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Speaker 3: till now has greatly dwindled because injuries, you know, so

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they got him at a very cheap deal.

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Speaker 3: Where as you mentioned my hunches, they're just going to

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Speaker 3: But I will say again, I don't pay a lot

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Speaker 3: of attention to punters. I never watch all twenty two

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Speaker 3: I would not when the scout kickers are punters. That's

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Speaker 3: Like Harvin was really fun to watch too, because once

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Speaker 3: Who was this guy? Like he was worth it.

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Speaker 2: At least version if he's back to that form and

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Speaker 3: I think they're just looking at it, like, if he's

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Speaker 3: Let's see what happens. Bring them both the camps, see

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Speaker 2: Two dogs one bone.

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Speaker 3: Was even talk, and maybe it was crazy, maybe it

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Speaker 3: had two good punters, that maybe they could get a

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Speaker 2: There's a there's a renewed, I think importance of the

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Speaker 3: Around the NFL not just a throwaway thing with.

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Speaker 2: Everything that has happened with the change and kickoffs and

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Speaker 2: final segment, speaking of a specialists, we'll we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: do you think the Steelers need some more youth in

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Speaker 2: You would like to add some more speed on the

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Speaker 2: Now, Dean is much younger than those guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: this earlier. I wondered after coach Tomlin left him before

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy was hired. Backs on Backers seven shots, Friday

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Speaker 2: night lights. Are these things part of the Steelers culture

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Speaker 3: You probably a better opinion of that than I do.

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Speaker 3: I would bet Friday night Lights never goes.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, Friday night Lights feels

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't think that's the coach thing. I think

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Speaker 2: Thousand people, thousand people that come out and there's fireworks,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't say. I don't think that's in the organizations

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Speaker 2: Mean they might say, on this Friday, you're running football practice.

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Speaker 2: It's from there seven o'clock at Latrobe Memorial High School.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but what you do on the field is up

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Speaker 2: I think that's the I think that's the balance there, certainly.

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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes bringing people to the ground. That doesn't

437
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Speaker 3: happen a lot. If anything, I bet it gets scaled

438
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Speaker 3: back a little bit.

439
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet you the special team, the special teams

440
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: element might get scaled back a little bit too.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean they gave Danny a lot of time.

442
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Speaker 2: Those are all the things that when Matt and I

443
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Speaker 2: have no clue, Well, Matt and I report to campus

444
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: and we get our dorm assignments in our lanyards, like yeah, yeah,

445
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 2: we're eighteen year old freshman all over again, that'll be

446
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Speaker 2: one of the first things we're looking for is just

447
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: the how's this new regime laying out practice, what's similar,

448
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: what's different?

449
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Speaker 3: Even like the times they practice and when the press

450
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Speaker 3: conferences during the season, and I mean all that stuff

451
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Speaker 3: could be different.

452
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Sudesh tweets us and says, can signing Teller or

453
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Speaker 2: Botonio fit into the master play? And also, what are

454
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Speaker 2: you gentlemen having for dinner tonight?

455
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Speaker 3: No clue on dinner. The cupboards are really bare at

456
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Speaker 3: my house. So my daughter, he was like, could you

457
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Speaker 3: go to the grocery store day?

458
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Speaker 5: Am I?

459
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Speaker 3: No chance?

460
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Speaker 5: No chance?

461
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 4: Uh?

462
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Speaker 2: Tuesday night is dance night in the in the Euler household,

463
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: so we usually just pick up something sandwich, burrito, Chick

464
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Speaker 2: fil a Tuesday. Tuesday nights, just fly by the seat

465
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Speaker 2: of our pants and make it to dance on time night.

466
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Speaker 2: Tell her Botonio into the mask.

467
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Speaker 3: You guys, don't dance a on the living room. You

468
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Speaker 3: go to dance class.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, me and my wife are putting our favorite records

470
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Speaker 2: on the ballroom. My oldest daughter has.

471
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Speaker 3: A dance gotcha. So you get something quick, we get

472
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Speaker 3: something quick?

473
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, mate, Smashburger's Last Night in the Sunshine on

474
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: the Blackstone delicious, fantastic. Tell her or Botonio fit into

475
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Speaker 2: the master plan.

476
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Speaker 3: The three names I have really a guard are Jenkins

477
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Speaker 3: from the from Green Bay's number one? Yes, Yes, I

478
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Speaker 3: think he's somebody I would be really doing my best

479
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 3: to sign any minute now type guy. I also think

480
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: the Browns guys qualify. I don't know how big a

481
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 3: deal this is because everyone talks about a tackle position,

482
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 3: but Potonio's only been a left. Tellor's only been a right.

483
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to move McCormick. I mean, he's so

484
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: young and that's been successful. I think you'd have to

485
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 3: ask an old dog to play left because I also

486
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 3: was going to bring up Zeitler. Zeitler's like thirty five,

487
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Speaker 3: thirty six maybe. I mean, he's had a really good career.

488
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Speaker 3: It is, he's super solid, alright, but he's only been

489
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Speaker 3: a right and Teller's only been a right. Teller's younger

490
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 3: than Botonio. I think he's thirty one played okay. I

491
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: mean you gotta remember that was a tough, tough situation

492
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: for both those players. I think either would fit the bill.

493
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 3: Tellor's more the masher shove your face in the dirt guy.

494
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 3: Potonio is a little more finesse pass blocker technique guy.

495
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Speaker 3: But I think he's thirty four and Teller's thirty one.

496
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Speaker 2: That sounds right.

497
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Teller, do you want to play left? He

498
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 3: might be like, I don't care. He might be like

499
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: no chance. Yeah, So those three names interest me. Jenkins

500
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 3: was a left guard in the center.

501
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Speaker 2: Before they moved to say yeah, that's the number one

502
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Speaker 2: name on.

503
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Speaker 3: The list to me. Yeah, yeah, But one of those

504
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: would be a fine on a one year deal. Jenkins,

505
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: I may consider on a two or whatever. But Botonio

506
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Speaker 3: or Zeitler maybe, I mean they're up in age and

507
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 3: still draft one.

508
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: Kind of piggybacking off of that, Joe tweets us, so

509
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: what position should the Steelers target next? I think it

510
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 2: should be guard? What say you get? Yeah, garden safety.

511
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate a nosey ish addition, Yeah, but garden

512
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 2: It will be higher on the priority because I do

513
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: think there's some nosyish guys that fit the bill in

514
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Speaker 2: the upcoming draft that could be had on day two,

515
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: maybe even day three.

516
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Speaker 3: Real quick, my phone just lit up because the Steelers

517
00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 3: officially announced the Johnston signing. He must not have been

518
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: a true free agent or like his contract didn't expire,

519
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: because you can't announce like the Dean signing.

520
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: Yet, you know what I mean, Sure, let's see here.

521
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Speaker 3: Because you have to wait the new league year Wednesday

522
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: at four before you announce your signings before they become official.

523
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 3: We remember, we remember, we made that really clear yesterday.

524
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 3: Johnston must not have been an expiring contract situation. He

525
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: must have been a true street non football player, you know, like,

526
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: did not have any kind of under contract that you

527
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 3: could sign him.

528
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Speaker 2: Now I'm looking on Steelers dot com and the it

529
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: just popped up. Yes, we have official league sign It's

530
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Speaker 2: on Steelers dot com article by the Great Teresa Varley,

531
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: but doesn't have any specifics on on that regard. Just

532
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: it's a one year contract, which isn't a big deal.

533
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Speaker 3: I'm just it's se manics. I mean, it's a day

534
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: late for Rico and you know all the other guys

535
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 3: that they're adding. But his contract must have not He

536
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: must not have been affiliate with any team at the

537
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: end there. He must have got let go before the

538
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: end of the season.

539
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: Me tweets us Matt. It says doctor Westman and Professor Matt.

540
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: Three questions for you. Number one. I don't know if

541
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: Metcalf's inconsistencies prevents him from being a true number one

542
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: wide receiver or not. But with the addition of Pittman,

543
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: do we have two elite wide receiver twos? Does that

544
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: feel like enough?

545
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,880
Speaker 3: Yes? And yes, elite's a big word.

546
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: You've you've said this before. Not that cuts you off,

547
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: but so many times accurately, there's not thirty two number

548
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: one wide receivers in the league.

549
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: There's not twenty.

550
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 2: It's like there's not thirty two franchise quarterbacks, right right.

551
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 3: Just because you have a starting quarterback does not mean

552
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: he's a number one. Yes. And I never thought Metcalf,

553
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: even on his best day, was a number one. I

554
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 3: thought he was a really really good one, A or

555
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: two or whatever. And I don't even know if you

556
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: have to qualify he's a two, he's a three, he's

557
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: a four, you know what I mean. I mean he's

558
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Speaker 3: a starter for everyone on the planet. Of course, down

559
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: playing him at all. I just think that oh doll

560
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: on his prime AB and his prime I mean, those

561
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 3: guys are ones, you know, the Metcalf was never that guy, Julio,

562
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, doesn't matter if there's

563
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: ten of them on the planet right now, seebee lamb, Yes,

564
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: hookahs that guy now JSN. You know, I think Pittman

565
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: is still a high quality too elite two might be.

566
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean Higgins is an elite to you know what

567
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 3: I mean. I would take Higgins over Pittman. But I

568
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 3: think the combination of the two is adds up to

569
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 3: a good receiver room. You know, it's good enough, I

570
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 3: think is how he phrased it or yes, and then

571
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: if you add one more in the draft, now we're

572
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: now we're cooking.

573
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: You know, you might have one of the better wide

574
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: receiver rooms in the NFL potentially.

575
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that's too much to ask. Come

576
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: La trobe time.

577
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: You know it's funny. People love throwing in the food

578
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: questions for us too. Question number right, Question number two

579
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: from me? Big Mac or whopper big Mac.

580
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: I love a big Mac, but I only have one

581
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: like once a year, and there's times where I'm like, well,

582
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 3: maybe I should eat that big Mac, like, but big

583
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 3: Mac high on my list.

584
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: So saying I think so? I think so, I like

585
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: the Big Mac. And if you have the McDonald I

586
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't be saying this. If you have the McDonald's app

587
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: on your phone, you wait for the right time. You

588
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 2: can get a big Mac for like two bucks man

589
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: because they do different like so there is I'm mean,

590
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: it's a classic. I used to eat McDonald's once or

591
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: twice a week in my twenties. That's why I weigh

592
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety some pounds.

593
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

594
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's still a couple of times a year

595
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: that like I'll throw.

596
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: It sounds good, like right now, I'm hungry and it

597
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: sounds really good.

598
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: I'll throw up the McDonald's app and they'll be like,

599
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: buy a medium order of fries and you get a

600
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: big Mac for free. And it's like three three bucks.

601
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: You get a big Mac and order of fries. That's

602
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: tough to beat. Last one for me is what's the

603
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: best music vieer Burger?

604
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff on it.

605
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Big Mac is the sauce is tough

606
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: to beat. Last one for me is what's the best

607
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 2: music venue in Pittsburgh. I'm I'm partial to you this.

608
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm partial behinds Hall because I used to run around

609
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: there like a kid. Like I was the Phantom of

610
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 2: the Opera, running through, running through that place that was

611
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: like your playground. But I really like Stage AE as well.

612
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Okay, it's only one show on stage.

613
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: Right on the water there on the north shore, in

614
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: and out. It's a cool venue. It's big enough, but

615
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: it's not too big. Those would be my answers.

616
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: I mean, my only contribution would be I'm going to

617
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: see britt Floyd like I do every year. That's I'm

618
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: two Fridays from now, and I'm disappointed because it's a PPG,

619
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Speaker 3: not the ben Atem, because I loved being in the

620
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: tenth row at the ben Atem for a Floyd show.

621
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: That's a great one too. I'm a fan of the smaller, smaller,

622
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: more intimate venues. Ppg's fine for a concert, but it's yeah,

623
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: it's fine.

624
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: It's big. Yeah.

625
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: The worst music venue in Pittsburgh is Starlak. That one

626
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: doesn't take much. That one doesn't take much.

627
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't know how many shows you saw Three Rivers too.

628
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 3: It was fun, but it wasn't the best place to

629
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: see show.

630
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if I ever saw a concert there.

631
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: I remember going to I remember going to Penguins and

632
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: Pirates games. I mean I was like eleven when it

633
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: got imploded, So I don't think I ever went to

634
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: a show there, but went to or went to Steelers

635
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: and Pirates games there.

636
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: Obviously, that's so many big shows there.

637
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: I think I've told maybe one of the first vivid

638
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: sporting events that I remember is when I was seven

639
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: years old when Mark Bolger threw for six touchdowns against

640
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: pitt at Three Rivers at Three Rivers Stadium. I think

641
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: that was before year. That would have been like ninety

642
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: eight or ninety and that would have been Yeah, that

643
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: would have been a little before your time. Ian tweets

644
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: us and says, gentlemen, with the roster starting to take shape,

645
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: let's say Aaron Rodgers is not does not return, locks

646
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: himself into a darkness retreat for life. Who would you

647
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: rather man the ship? Of these options? In twenty twenty six,

648
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, Kirk o Chains, call of Duty, Kyler Murray,

649
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: will Hired or Ty Simpson.

650
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: I guess Murray or Simpson wouldn't be.

651
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: Cousins might just say will hard and let's sink or swim.

652
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: I know that's not how the organization thinks.

653
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you'd sure sink or swim and that would

654
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: be good to know. I mean, the way they structure

655
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Speaker 3: the question, I would say, Simpson, but that cost me

656
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Speaker 3: the twenty first pick, and I don't want to do that. Yes,

657
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like if you dropped them

658
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Speaker 3: out of the sky and didn't cost me anything. Yes,

659
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Speaker 3: but that's not how the world works. None of those

660
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Speaker 3: is super appealing.

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Speaker 2: None of those are super appealing. Now that's why I

662
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Speaker 2: might just let's see, let's sink or swim with Will

663
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Speaker 2: Hard and yeah, if it works, great, you got your guy.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't, you're in good position to get your

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Speaker 2: next guy.

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Speaker 3: Now there's an argument for that.

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Speaker 2: Broncos releasing Dre greenlaw. I think we missed that one.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we just.

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Speaker 3: Say they kept two linebackers in the last day, so okay,

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Speaker 3: they've lost a couple of pieces on that. We've had

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Speaker 3: some injuries stuf a couple pieces on that defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Time for a couple more here

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Speaker 2: before we get to Christian Koontz to wrap up the show.

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Speaker 2: H r J tweets us I like this one. Say

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Speaker 2: these Steelers sign one of these veteran guards and they

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Speaker 2: add a safety do you guys think the Steelers can

677
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Speaker 2: truly go into the draft and evaluate pick twenty one

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Speaker 2: as best player available.

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Speaker 3: I think I answered this one last night that I

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Speaker 3: think if everything goes to I bet that's the plan.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you could truly make it happen. As

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Speaker 3: easier said than done, But I think Omar in the

683
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Speaker 3: whole front office would love saying we need to leave

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Speaker 3: this draft with a safety, an offensive lineman, a wide out.

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Speaker 3: But we don't have to do anything in round one. Now,

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Speaker 3: when you say pure best player available, I'm sure there's

687
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Speaker 3: till two or three positions you'd take out of the mix.

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Speaker 3: Like I don't think you'd take a tight end or

689
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Speaker 3: an edge. I mean, like I can't imagine taking Sadiq

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Speaker 3: even if he's the best player available, because he wouldn't

691
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Speaker 3: see the field enough right off the bat, you know.

692
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Speaker 3: But I think, for the most part, kind of like

693
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Speaker 3: we talked about yesterday, if you could narrow it down

694
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Speaker 3: to ten names and whoever we have the highest grade

695
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Speaker 3: on we're gonna take and not be married to a position,

696
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Speaker 3: that would be tremendous easier said than done. But I

697
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Speaker 3: do think you're maybe a garden safety away from being

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Speaker 3: close to achieving that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Remember the old Kevin Colbert adage, which I know still

700
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Speaker 2: permeates the organization of like you want to head into

701
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Speaker 2: the draft feeling like you could play a game the

702
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Speaker 2: Sunday before the draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can line up and play right now.

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Speaker 2: I might not be strong at every position, but I

705
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Speaker 2: could line up and play.

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Speaker 3: Might handle injuries or my special teams might not be

707
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Speaker 3: totally rounded at but I don't have.

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Speaker 2: A massive gap of Oh no, we don't have a

709
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Speaker 2: left guard right, and I have.

710
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Speaker 3: To come out of this draft with a left yard

711
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Speaker 3: and that's bad business.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's see one more here. This is a good

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Speaker 2: one from smooth Dave. I'd be interested to get your

714
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Speaker 2: thoughts on this. Via advanced analytics, the NFL defenses are

715
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Speaker 2: now playing zone coverage around seventy percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: If you look at some of these in coming wide receivers,

718
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Speaker 2: particularly Denzel Boston and Casey Concepttionial, their yards per reception,

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Speaker 2: their yard part of me their yards per route run

720
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Speaker 2: versus zone is very low versus man, and it's in

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Speaker 2: line with basically every high draft pick receiver that has underwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: Uh Nikhil Harry Key on Colemanget.

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Speaker 3: He's saying they're worse versus zone than ban.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's saying, does that concern you with some of

725
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Speaker 2: these wide receivers that we've discussed.

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Speaker 3: I think it's an exceptional question. It's upper level thinking.

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Speaker 3: I think he knows what he's talking about, especially because

728
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Speaker 3: he did his homework.

729
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Speaker 2: On and I know you like the yards per route run,

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Speaker 2: the yards for.

731
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Speaker 3: Route run stuff. I think you'd have to look at

732
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Speaker 3: it on individual basis. But I also think there's a

733
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Speaker 3: lot of logic to it too, because back in the day,

734
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Speaker 3: I've told a story a million times, like I was

735
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Speaker 3: the Browns, Matt watch every tape of man coverage you

736
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Speaker 3: possibly can coming out of college because there aren't many,

737
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Speaker 3: and you know, going against these corners when they put

738
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Speaker 3: their hands on you, it's so much harder than they

739
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Speaker 3: is the college level. And but now there's so many

740
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Speaker 3: diverse zone coverages that if you can't read them on

741
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Speaker 3: the fly, Like think about like Brady Welker, you know,

742
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Speaker 3: like he takes three steps into his route and they

743
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Speaker 3: can't just yell to hey, Welker, make a left, or

744
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Speaker 3: turn that into a button book or turn it into

745
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Speaker 3: a post that they have to read the coverage as

746
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Speaker 3: it's happening in two point three seconds the same way,

747
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Speaker 3: and when you do, it's almost unsoppable. But when you don't,

748
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Speaker 3: or even a Jason Witten sitting down in zones at

749
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Speaker 3: the right spots, and that you know a lot of

750
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Speaker 3: times when Rogers does this at his receivers and says,

751
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Speaker 3: what are you doing? Because you didn't read the coverages properly?

752
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Speaker 3: And if you never have the ability to do it,

753
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: you could definitely flop. I mean, I think that's a

754
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: really good question and something that I I think every

755
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Speaker 3: front office should examine.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's certainly when the when the numbers, a

757
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 2: lot of these numbers now are very easy to find. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

758
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: defensive tendencies, how wide receivers do against those tendencies at

759
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: the collegiate level, it's a it's a good question, and yeah,

760
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: you're right. I hope that that's something that's part of

761
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Speaker 2: the conversation when they're on these big boards. Now.

762
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Speaker 3: I know we don't have a ton of time, but

763
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Speaker 3: I also don't one hundred percent. You'll notice, like in

764
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Speaker 3: Matt's stats, I never put this is what he does,

765
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Speaker 3: Verus Man, this is what he does vers zone hit

766
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Speaker 3: one hundred percent trust them because I think so many

767
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Speaker 3: coverages start a zone and then they turn into man or.

768
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of unknown about what the call was exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or to put in like basketball terms, there's a

770
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Speaker 3: box in one where they're the one guy's getting manned up,

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Speaker 3: but the other four aren't, you know, like example, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just don't one hundred percent trust.

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Speaker 5: It, you know.

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Speaker 3: So maybe that's they're good guidelines.

775
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Speaker 2: Maybe that's something we can dive into a little bit

776
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Speaker 2: more on a on a later show. But we got

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Speaker 2: to get to a break here because on the other side,

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Speaker 2: we're going to wrap things up with Steelers long sapper

779
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Speaker 2: Christian Kon's host of the Christian Coons podcast, and he's

780
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: got a really cool podcast series on the football legacy

781
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: of Western Pennsylvania. As he is one of those guys

782
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: grew up here, played college football here, now plays for

783
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Speaker 2: the Steelers. We'll chat with Christian when we return to

784
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Speaker 2: wrap up the day's proceedings. Whats Ruler Matt Williamson. It

785
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Speaker 2: is the Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

786
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Speaker 4: What's up, NFL fans? The NFL Draft is finally here,

787
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: and while you might not know who your team is

788
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 4: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

789
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Speaker 4: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

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Speaker 4: group's go to draft beer season after season. Be sure

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Speaker 4: to order around for the table before your team's on

793
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Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive, into the phone lines we go,

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Speaker 2: and we welcome a very special guest, familiar name, well

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Speaker 2: known across Western Pennsylvania and Steeler Nation. It is your

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Speaker 2: long snapper, Christian Konts, of course, also the host of

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Speaker 2: the Christian Coons podcast. Christian, thanks for taking the time, man.

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Speaker 2: How's it going. How's the off season been so far?

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Speaker 5: Oh? What's up? Guys? I appreciate that, thanks for having me.

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00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 5: It's uh. Off season is good. It's a bit different

806
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 5: this year for me, you know, with a I got

807
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Speaker 5: a seven months old at home.

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Speaker 3: We wow.

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Speaker 5: The beginning, thank you, thank you. In the beginning of

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Speaker 5: training camp. So off season has been a little bit different.

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Speaker 5: I've been busier and more tired than I ever have been.

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Speaker 5: This is hard.

813
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Speaker 3: Fatherhood or long snapping, what's harder? I think, I.

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Speaker 5: No doubt.

815
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Speaker 2: I've got a I've got a four year old and

816
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Speaker 2: a two year old Christian, so I am. I've been

817
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Speaker 2: right there in the trenches with you. It's a lot

818
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Speaker 2: of fun, but it is certainly exhausting.

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Speaker 5: But we know you.

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Speaker 2: You've got you've got some some really cool a cool

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Speaker 2: kind of project that you're working on here. I'm sure

822
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Speaker 2: most of our listeners they're familiar. You already host It's

823
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Speaker 2: It's Awesome the Christian Coons Podcast. But you're rolling out

824
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Speaker 2: ahead of the NFL Draft here and obviously a huge

825
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Speaker 2: historic moment for for football in Western Pennsylvania with the

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Speaker 2: draft coming to the north shore of Pittsburgh in April,

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Speaker 2: a kind of special series of your podcast highlighting the

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Speaker 2: history the legacy of football here in western Pennsylvania. Tell

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Speaker 2: us about it, Yeah, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 5: We're excited about it. Where you know, we partnered with

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Speaker 5: the Steelers and we're we're doing, like you said, a

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Speaker 5: little draft special where we're gonna highlight some of the

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Speaker 5: best players to come out of Western PA. I just think,

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Speaker 5: you know, this is such an overlooked part of the

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Speaker 5: world for football talent. You know, everyone talks about Florida

836
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Speaker 5: and Texas and you know California ball with the private schools,

837
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Speaker 5: but right here in Western PA and Pittsburgh, you know,

838
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Speaker 5: produced to some of the best players and un fortunate

839
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Speaker 5: enough to be able to you know, get some of

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Speaker 5: them on and highlight their story and their journey, you know,

841
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Speaker 5: all the way from Pop Warner through high school, college,

842
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Speaker 5: you know, and then into the pros. So I'm excited

843
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Speaker 5: about it. We've already you know, dropped one episode with

844
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Speaker 5: Justin Watson, South Fayette legend, Pengrad three times Super Bowl champion.

845
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Speaker 5: It's just it's really cool to be able to, you know,

846
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Speaker 5: get these guys' stories and get a chance to know them,

847
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Speaker 5: you know a little bit outside of football, and you

848
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Speaker 5: know how they how they you know, grew up and

849
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Speaker 5: with with with their purposes and what their why is

850
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Speaker 5: and why they're playing. So it's the cool opportunity. I'm

851
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Speaker 5: excited about it.

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Speaker 3: That's super cool. I think there's you know a lot

853
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Speaker 3: to mine from that. And I was a recruiting assistant

854
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: that Pitt for three years and watched all the high

855
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Speaker 3: school tape and you know, watch guys like Revis come

856
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Speaker 3: out of here. I mean, and there's it goes back

857
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Speaker 3: so much further. Do you get deep into like the

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Speaker 3: seventies and the steel mill days and all that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, there's there's you know, I'm not going

860
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Speaker 5: to reveal the list that I was provided. We're going

861
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Speaker 5: to try to be getting on. But we we did,

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Speaker 5: you know, we we we we went back in time

863
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Speaker 5: a little bit. You know. Curtis Martin, I'll drop that one.

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Speaker 5: Curtis Martin is I guess that we had on recently.

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Speaker 5: And I'll tell you what, It's just it's amazing to hear,

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Speaker 5: you know, some of their stories, especially Curtis. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's he's an unbelievable dude, and and what an unbelievable

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Speaker 5: football player. So it's just it's just so cool for

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Speaker 5: me to be able to, you know, do my research

870
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Speaker 5: and then get to sit down and get to talk

871
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 5: to these guys and hear their stories. It's really cool.

872
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: Christian Koont's with us here on the drive. Christian, I

873
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: wanted to just you know, bigger picture. Matt and I

874
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: are both from here as well too. Matt was a

875
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Libo guy. I graduated from Mars. We both grew up

876
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: in Western Pennsylvania and have lived most of our lives

877
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: here other than you know, work taking us to different

878
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: places for a few years. You obviously shar Tiers Valley

879
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: du Cane now Pittsburgh Steelers, just as a Western Pennsylvania guy,

880
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: as a kid who grew up here. What's football mean

881
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: to you? What is you know, what is that sport?

882
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: And and just mean to kids that grow up and

883
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: play it in this region?

884
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I I joke around, I say, you know,

885
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 5: I can't get out of here. I can't get out

886
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: of this place. But I wouldn't want to be anywhere

887
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 5: else because you know, Pittsburgh's just special. It's a special place,

888
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 5: and in football here is part of you know, who

889
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: we are as people. I feel like, you know, and

890
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: all these guys that hopefully you know, people listen to

891
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 5: the show and hear some of the guys that come on.

892
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 5: Everyone's story and mine mine as well is kind of similar.

893
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: You know, It's a story of perseverance and some grit

894
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: and you know, and that's kind of embodies what being

895
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 5: a Pittsburgh kid is, and you know, just toughness, like

896
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 5: when you go you know, when you go to other

897
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 5: places around the league and you're on different teams, and

898
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 5: you know, you meet guys and you ask where they're from,

899
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 5: and some guys are from here or here here, and

900
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: then you hear a guy from Pittsburgh. I feel like

901
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 5: everyone's everyone's you know, perception of that guy is he's

902
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 5: a tough player. He's gonna he's gonna play tough, he's

903
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 5: gonna play hard. And you know, that's what I feel

904
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 5: like Pittsburgh football is about. And that's what that's what

905
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 5: all these guys resemble that I'm I'm I'm gonna have

906
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 5: on the show. So it's awesome. I love it. I

907
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: love it.

908
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: That's awesome. You can tell by no means, am I

909
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: a punting expert. But and I hope I'm up breaking

910
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: news to you, but the Steelers just announced like fifteen

911
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: minutes ago that they are resigning Cameron Johnston, so he's

912
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: going to be in the mix. I assume he'll be

913
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 3: at Latrobe. I had a blast watching this guy punt.

914
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 3: I mean, what do you, what's your interactions with him?

915
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: And the way I described them last segment was like, man,

916
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 3: that guy's got like every club in his bag, like

917
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: every punt I've ever seen he's able to execute.

918
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I that is it is fresh news to me.

919
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 5: Right before I ran upstairs to hop on the call,

920
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 5: my wife said, oh, we signed they signed Cam Johnson back. Yeah,

921
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: so yeah, it's fresh news to me. But both Cam

922
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 5: and and Corlis are two pro punters. I mean we

923
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 5: regardless if they're here competing with each other, they're they're

924
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 5: too unbelieved, two of the best in the world, and

925
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 5: they're gonna have jobs, and you know, sometimes guys can't

926
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: control where they go, you know, it's you know, teams,

927
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 5: Teams kind of dictate that for us. So it would

928
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 5: be good to have him back. He's a great dude,

929
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 5: a great human being, an unbelievable punter, great holder too,

930
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 5: and obviously corlesses as well. So I'm excited to have

931
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: both of them back, and they those two love it.

932
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 5: They're two pros and they compete at the highest level,

933
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 5: so it just elevates their game and makes them better

934
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 5: as punters. So I'm sure it's going to be a

935
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: fun training camp again.

936
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 3: So I've always wanted to ask a long snapper this question.

937
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 3: It's the last AT got for you. And please don't

938
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: take it the wrong way, because what you do, I

939
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: think is unbelievably hard to execute. But I don't think. Yeah,

940
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: but I don't think most kids grew up wanting to

941
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: be a long snapper. You know, like, when do you

942
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: come to the conclusion in your career that hey, I

943
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: was a pretty good linebacker, Ducine, but long snapping is

944
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: my calling that I can make a profession. Like I

945
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: doubt all thirty two of you that are currently employed

946
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: when we're six years old, said, boy, all I want

947
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: to do is be a long snapper.

948
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: No, absolutely, I did not want to be a long snapper.

949
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 5: I never envisioned myself being a long snapper, even you know,

950
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 5: after college, I envisioned myself as a linebacker. So I

951
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 5: went to a couple of teams, and you know, I

952
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 5: moved a little bit differently than the guys that were

953
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: moving at linebackers. So I made it.

954
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 3: You probably learned quickly, right.

955
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I realized.

956
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 3: I realized quick he was a little different than I do.

957
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. I was like my kids is a pretty

958
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 5: slim here. I'm gonna move to long snapping because they

959
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 5: said I was decent at it, and that's kind of

960
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: you know. I was probably twenty yeah, probably twenty twenty two,

961
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 5: twenty three years old, cut twice already at that point,

962
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 5: cut three times. And that's when I went on to

963
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 5: workout the Green Bay and they were like, can't you

964
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 5: snap a little bit? And I was like, sure, got down,

965
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: start snapping and they were like, yeah, I think you

966
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 5: should work on this for a couple more years and

967
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: you'll be in the league. And that's that was the

968
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 5: turning point. Wow.

969
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: I give you a lot of credit for reinventing yourself though,

970
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: and I'm sure that's true for all the long snappers

971
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 3: out there.

972
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they all at some point in time, you know.

973
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: I know. I know Katie Crater up in New York.

974
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 5: I was with him in Denver when I was first

975
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 5: coming out, and he was a school teacher for two

976
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 5: years before he even got in. So a lot of

977
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 5: long snappers journey and specialist.

978
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: He just go out to the field of recess and

979
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: just start snapping after school or whatever.

980
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 5: Probably, yeah, exactly, Yeah, Yeah, that's when he got that's

981
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 5: when he got his work in. But yeah, that's it's

982
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 5: all their stories. It's crazy, that's really cool.

983
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. Christian, thank you so much for the time

984
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: before we let you go. I know you did have

985
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: a chance to, uh to go to the Cayman Science

986
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: Center and see the Football Town. Of course, the special

987
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: uh NFL Films presentation on the history of football in

988
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: this region.

989
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 5: Uh.

990
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,280
Speaker 2: We've been kind of pumping that up for our listeners

991
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: and Steeler Nation and telling them they got to get there.

992
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: What can they expect for those whenever they finally get

993
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: to see that that cool film.

994
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's it's definitely worth a watch. You know.

995
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 5: It was phenomenal, just the scenery and it just takes

996
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 5: you back all the way. You know, like I said,

997
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 5: youse football through Friday Night's excuse me, Friday Nights here

998
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh are special and it kind of highlights all

999
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 5: of that embodied with pitt and the Steelers on Sundays.

1000
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: It's a special film, you know, especially if you're from Pittsburgh.

1001
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: You know you're going to really appreciate, you know, the

1002
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 5: whole film, let alone the first five minutes when they start,

1003
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 5: you know, putting all those spaces, you know, everyone from

1004
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 5: the from this region, their faces and their highlight commentary

1005
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 5: in the background. You just you get chills down your spine.

1006
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 5: So it's an unbelievable film. Everyone should go see it.

1007
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: Great stuff. Christian Koon's Steelers long snapper, host of the

1008
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: Christian Coons podcast. Make sure everyone's checking out all the

1009
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: cool stuff that he has coming up here ahead of

1010
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft and in just a little over a

1011
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: month in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Christian, thanks for the time, man,

1012
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: and enjoy the rest of the off season and all

1013
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: the best in fatherhood.

1014
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 5: Awesome, Thank you, guys. I appreciate it.

1015
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 2: There he goes, great stuff, good conversation, looking forward to

1016
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: all those those different interviews and everything. Yeah, he has

1017
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: coming down the pipeline, Matt, we've got to go where

1018
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: we're up against it. But real quick for you, some

1019
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: breaking news. The Packers designated Elgin Jenkins release as a

1020
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: failed physical. Just coming across the timeline here, m So

1021
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 2: that's something that I just wanted to get out there.

1022
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 2: We'll discuss more tomorrow as we rolled along. We'll continue

1023
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: to react to everything the Steelers and the rest of

1024
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: the league are doing. In free agency. But that will

1025
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: do it for us for today. Thanks to Christian Koontz

1026
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: for joining us in Steelers PR and for setting that

1027
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: one up for us. Big thanks to Nathan on the

1028
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: ones and twos, mister TV producing it on the video

1029
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: side as always, Tyler B. For Matt Williamson. I'm Wesheuler.

1030
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: Take care everybody. We will talk to you tomorrow. As always,

1031
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 2: you know where to find us. It's on your twenty

1032
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: four to seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers

1033
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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.