WEBVTT - Bloomberg Law Brief: Johnson on Russia Hacking (Audio)

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, exploring

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<v Speaker 1>legal issues in the news. Today, Bloomberg Law host Judon

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<v Speaker 1>Grosso discusses congressional testimony from former Homeland Security Secretary j

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson over Russian interference in the election. She speaks to

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley Moss, a partner at Mark S BLC, and William Banks,

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<v Speaker 1>director of the Institute for National Security and counter Terrorism

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<v Speaker 1>at Syracuse Law School. Brett Johnson described in detail how

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<v Speaker 1>they saw the growing Russian probing around voter registration databases.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had the knowledge, yet they didn't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>have the ability to do anything about it, and do

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<v Speaker 1>they yet, well, and this is part of the way

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<v Speaker 1>we've set up our electoral system is that it's set

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<v Speaker 1>up set in a decentralized manner and controlled by the states.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a quote unquote national election. We actually

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<v Speaker 1>have fifty individual state election and each state has its

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<v Speaker 1>own rules for handling them based on the county and

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<v Speaker 1>the local level. So what the former secretary describing was

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<v Speaker 1>they were attempting, and there was some pushback from the

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<v Speaker 1>individual states. They were attempting to coordinate with the states

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<v Speaker 1>to raise these concerns and to find a mechanism by

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<v Speaker 1>which DHS could provide assistance and to ensure the stability

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<v Speaker 1>and the safety of the electoral process without infringing upon

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<v Speaker 1>the state's sovereign rights to run their election process in

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<v Speaker 1>cordance with state laws bill. At the Senate Intelligence Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>where they had hearings on the same issue, the under

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary for Cybersecurity at DHS said there's evidence that one

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<v Speaker 1>state election systems were targeted. Johnson said that what he

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<v Speaker 1>knows from open source is that thirty nine states were hacked.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know the number? And why is the Department

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<v Speaker 1>of Homeland Security still not willing to disclose which state

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<v Speaker 1>election systems were hacked? Well, the number I've read in

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<v Speaker 1>the media's thirty nine as well. I probably spread the

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<v Speaker 1>same reports that Johnson, and I think it's uh As

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<v Speaker 1>brad said, these are these are fifty separate systems, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's it's up to the states to decide whether

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<v Speaker 1>to reveal the extent to which the systems have been

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<v Speaker 1>threatened or intruded upon. And that's William Banks, director of

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<v Speaker 1>the Institute for National Security and counter Terrorism at Syracuse

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<v Speaker 1>Law School, and Bradley Moss, a partner of Marks a Plc,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking with Bloomberg Law Hostun Grosso. And you can listen

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