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Speaker 1: I manage a band called the Allen Door Band, and

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Speaker 1: this band has eighteen members that are ready to go

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Speaker 1: and hungry to perform and get on stage and do

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Speaker 1: whatever anybody tells him to. So you say yes to me,

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Speaker 1: you're not adding one member, You're adding eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I'd say that covers a lot of ground.

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Speaker 3: I would.

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Speaker 2: I'd say that does the trick. That'll do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that'll do it. Yeah, I'd say that'll do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd say that would do it. Yeah, Yeah, that'll help

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Speaker 2: a little. Look at Ben, He's going, yeah, that'll help

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Speaker 2: a little. Jenny's going yeah, okay, yeah, so let's call

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Speaker 2: it a day.

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Speaker 3: Look at Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's over there going yeah, so we're done.

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Speaker 4: I like the good of this guy's yip. Good morning,

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Speaker 4: sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on

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Speaker 4: the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, April eighteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: I'm Jay Skeis here in the class of the factory

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Speaker 4: alongside me as always tas Melliss.

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Speaker 5: Hey podcast listeners, this one's for you.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate it. Lots to get to you. Got some news.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do our Eastern Conference previews a little bit later.

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Speaker 4: Looking at the four, five, three, six, two seven matchups.

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Speaker 4: We'll break them down make our predictions, but we start

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Speaker 4: with last night's playing games had another beauty on playback

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Speaker 4: that first one. How will it be remembered the Nick

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Speaker 4: Batoom game or the Free Chicken Nugget Run game, because

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Speaker 4: both of those are the stories coming out of this one.

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Speaker 4: As Philly beats the Heat get that number seven seed,

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Speaker 4: they'll move on to take on the Knicks. And obviously

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Speaker 4: we'll have the Heat without Jimmy Butler taking on the

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Speaker 4: think it's the batomb game or the h the chicken

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Speaker 4: promotion that turned the game. If anything, I'm.

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Speaker 5: Gonna go this way. It's like a newborn baby. It's ugly,

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Speaker 5: it got cuter as the game went on as the

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Speaker 5: So it come on fresh out the womb.

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Speaker 4: Yet that can't be mine. It's yeah, it's like a.

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Speaker 5: Baby chicken as well. I mean the chicken needs another

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Speaker 3: It was it was, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was odd to see Joel Embiid not be himself.

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Speaker 5: He didn't want to get really involved, get all that physical.

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Speaker 5: He went to the free throw line for a tech

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Speaker 5: it was BAM's second fell and I thought that was

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Speaker 5: on Joel Embiid, where everybody who was playing really hard.

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Speaker 4: That's when the crowd was booing them and rightfully so,

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Speaker 6: So like great stuff by the Sixers game. Ops putting

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Speaker 6: if it's the Chicken game or the Batom game.

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Speaker 4: Because they happened like one in the same.

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Speaker 4: Are you saying what came first, the chicken or the egg?

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Speaker 4: But what came first the chicken or the batoom? Holy shit,

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Speaker 6: Though, Man, that guy, he's making it the Batoomb trade.

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Speaker 6: saved the season. I thought for Philadelphia. The way he

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Speaker 6: that of the nail, and that's the only idea they had.

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna pass it around the outside until Ebie

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Speaker 6: Maxie was so much better playing in the lane. It

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Speaker 6: ball was moving. Buddy Heal played a really solid role,

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Speaker 6: Good scouting from the Philadelphia coaching staff. I think that

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Speaker 6: he didn't have a great game, but I thought he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love him pointing that fourth quarter for him.

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Speaker 5: John Boy media a lipery to that, because that was, hey, Maxie,

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Speaker 5: and obviously, but you was monstrous twenty points. Obviously heal

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Speaker 4: But toom season high twenty points here in the playing game,

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Speaker 4: The last time but two had least twenty points in

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when the heat really woke up because obviously

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Speaker 5: At the end of this game, every single possession, it

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Speaker 5: We'll get to that injury. But they had guys, you know,

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Speaker 5: Rozier in this one. Yeah, they desperately needed his offense.

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Speaker 5: They chose him over Kyle Lowry. A lot of good

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Speaker 5: memes about Kyle Lowry going into the tunnel yelling Terry

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Speaker 3: Good good meme from Too Much.

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Speaker 4: Hoopers, Jimmy Butler, Tobias Harris.

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Speaker 5: Exactly exactly, because Kyle was also awesome in this game.

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Speaker 5: He didn't have to score a lot, but he was

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Speaker 5: His body around, trying to draw you know, Chris Paul

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why Butler had six threes attempt as well.

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Speaker 5: The back was fine, yea, and he didn't play in

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Speaker 5: So that's strange because he is their heart. He's their soul.

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Speaker 4: It was just a weird game, very weird game, but

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Speaker 4: in a weird way. Similar to the Pelicans Lakers game

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Speaker 4: it's Nick Batoo going for twenty. It's you know, Alvarado

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Speaker 5: I love about this Hi Smith right, hawk is love.

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Speaker 5: The Heat's bench was good.

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Speaker 5: The injuries to him not looking like himself, brandon Ingram

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Speaker 4: Some similarities there, anything else on the Sixers beating Heat

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Speaker 4: This guy's decked out in Bulls gear for good reason.

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Speaker 4: the Bulls roll past the Hawks sad KAKA one thirty one,

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Speaker 6: I think he missed four threes, so that means he

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Speaker 6: Had to be there though, because it doesn't go down

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Speaker 6: They basically punted the last game of the year. Then

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, most teams playing the Hawks put up their

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Speaker 4: It's amazing. So I don't know if there's like a

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Speaker 3: You never know what that does.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he literally just ran into him at mid court.

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Speaker 5: He didn't need to do that. He didn't need to

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Speaker 5: looked good. It's a bit of a you know, a

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Speaker 3: It is really cool.

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Speaker 5: And especially against this Hawk's backcourt, it's gonna work, especially

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Speaker 4: And will this be the offseason where, yeah, the Hawks

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Speaker 4: stars unfortunately do not work together because you have the

432
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Speaker 4: eye test of that, and then the numbers back it

433
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Speaker 4: up too. They got outscored by six point three points

434
00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 4: per one hundred possessions with both Trey and Dejonte on

435
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 4: the floor. That's from cleaning the glass. They had a

436
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Speaker 4: positive net rating when either played without the other. So

437
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 4: it was either Trey without Dejonte or Dejohntey, which took

438
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 4: trad they were just better. And so will this be

439
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 4: the season where they try and either trade de Jontae

440
00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 4: again or do you really lean into the idea of

441
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,680
Speaker 4: trading Trey Young though his value might be at its lowest.

442
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 4: I guess you could argue close to it. I think

443
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 4: they have to though they have to. And then you've

444
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,640
Speaker 4: got decisions about Capella and a Congu because a Congo's

445
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 4: got an extension kicking in, Sidi Bay is a restricted

446
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 4: free agent. There's a lot of decisions to make here.

447
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 4: But they can't do this and DeAndre Hunter, I mean

448
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 4: that's so, I mean I would cut him. Oh, my god,

449
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 4: he's so frustrated. He is so frustrating that never goes

450
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 4: up exactly a broken faris will.

451
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it gets three quarters of the layup and some

452
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 6: hiw You're back down again. It doesn't make sense. He's brutal,

453
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 6: but man, it does feel like this is the end

454
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Speaker 6: for this iteration of the Hawks. I think kind of indicative.

455
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Speaker 6: At the end of the first half, you saw how

456
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Speaker 6: upset de Jontey Murray was with Trey Young, because Trey

457
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,480
Speaker 6: may have played the worst two for one you've ever

458
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 6: seen in the NBA. The Hawks score pretty quickly. There's

459
00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 6: like thirty eight seconds left. They get the ball at

460
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 6: Kobe White at half court and Trey tries to tap

461
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 6: it out from behind, ends up a wide open corner

462
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 6: three that they knocked down, and then Trey gets the ball,

463
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 6: brings it up the court, dribbles forever, whips it behind

464
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 6: the back pass to Murray that's nowhere near close. He

465
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 6: has the lunge out of the way to grab it,

466
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 6: and then suddenly it's a triple team onto Jontay Murray.

467
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 6: The Hawks don't get a shot up, and then he

468
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Speaker 6: saw like stop off the court looking at Trey and

469
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 6: saying what are you doing? And honestly, what was Trey doing?

470
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Speaker 6: He played a brutal game. He wanted to be back

471
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 6: after the hand injury, but he probably should have just

472
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Speaker 6: stayed on the shelf. I think because he was brutal.

473
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Speaker 4: They didn't win a game after he returned. I mean,

474
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Speaker 4: not just him, but he didn't look good and again,

475
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Speaker 4: like he could, he's fighting through it. He took the

476
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Speaker 4: thing off, didn't he. Yeah, sort of like the protective

477
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 4: part because he was having such a bad game, thought

478
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 4: maybe he would get him going. It didn't know that much.

479
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 4: He's a minus twenty seven in this game. Most of

480
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 4: his points coming up the free throw line, hit a

481
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 4: few threes, I guess. But yeah, there was some frustration

482
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 4: at least showing from their two stars there. That's not

483
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Speaker 4: the first time, to be honest either.

484
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Speaker 5: Yeah, the back court is a problem. They didn't have this.

485
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Speaker 5: This whole idea of defense from Jehontay Murray has not worked.

486
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Speaker 3: Obviously.

487
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Speaker 5: He hasn't been as good a defender as he was

488
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 5: supposed to be, as he was said to be when

489
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Speaker 5: they made the trade.

490
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Speaker 4: They were a better defensive team without Trey, though for

491
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Speaker 4: that big stretch they weren't amazing, but they were like

492
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Speaker 4: average on the season. They're garbage. Yeah, twenty seventh they were,

493
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Speaker 4: They're terrible.

494
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Speaker 6: They can't play defense.

495
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's an entire team. They have to they

496
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Speaker 5: have to change what their roster is.

497
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Speaker 3: Period.

498
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Speaker 5: And like you saw, I would assume would come off

499
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Speaker 5: the bench and play awesome for the Bulls, and in

500
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Speaker 5: that regard, like he was playing extremely hard and.

501
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Speaker 4: He was killer.

502
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Speaker 6: He is on the skilled time. I think his career

503
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 6: high against the Hawks. He had a game winner, and

504
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 6: Trey Young averages like five turnovers a game and he

505
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Speaker 6: had another what six last night?

506
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean a lot of guys. I mean,

507
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 4: we gave a lot of love to Kobe White, who

508
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 4: was phenomenal and deservedly social, like sort of lead the talk.

509
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, DeRozan did his thing, you know, ten to nineteen,

510
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Speaker 4: Vucevich was fine. You know, twenty four and twelve, all

511
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Speaker 4: of you're happy with that. You hit one three, you said, iow,

512
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 4: you know Dale and Terry coming out there, and then

513
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 4: Green as well. So yeah, they got a lot of contributions.

514
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: A lot of guys are gonna look good when you

515
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 4: play the Hawks too. It's the unfortunate truth. This team

516
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Speaker 4: is just I just can't believe. I mean, I got fooled.

517
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 4: I thought they were gonna be a better team this

518
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: year because of the idea that maybe they would have

519
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Speaker 4: a little bit better of a defense, a little bit

520
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Speaker 4: to go with obviously explosive offensive players. Still in trade

521
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Speaker 4: de Jontay and what they got from Jalen Johnson was great,

522
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Speaker 4: but they're just still garbage. They're still one of the

523
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Speaker 4: worst teams defensively. Does it make a lot of sense

524
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Speaker 4: when you sort of look at them outside of the tray. Yeah,

525
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 4: he's small, you can get picked on, you know. He

526
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Speaker 4: committed a little bit more to that end, but still

527
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Speaker 4: doesn't matter.

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

529
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Speaker 5: Yeah, DeAndre Hunter is supposed to be that guy to

530
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Speaker 5: be there, small forward to kind of lock things up

531
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Speaker 5: to Jontay Murray, supposed to have that reputation of being guys.

532
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Speaker 5: I said, I'd assume it came off the bench for

533
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Speaker 5: the Bulls. Maybe I'm just having good dreams and hopeful

534
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 5: dreams that he comes off the bench for the Atlanta

535
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Speaker 5: Hawks or something. They need something to change and look,

536
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 5: the Hawks ownership has said it or say money having

537
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 5: gone to the luxury tax line two years in a row,

538
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 5: they traded away John Collins. They're basically saying, we're running

539
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 5: this team back over and over and over again.

540
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: But it has to.

541
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Speaker 5: Change now now, now, it has to be this season

542
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 5: after saying we're just gonna run the same thing back.

543
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 5: But yeah, tough stuff with Jayleen Johnson could also make

544
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 5: a ton of money in a potential extension here. There's

545
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 5: big questions money wise unless you start to move the

546
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Speaker 5: DeAndre Hunters or one of Trey and de john Tay Murray.

547
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Speaker 4: So what's the play. Trade Trey Young to the Spurs

548
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 4: and just get all your picks back for the Dejohntay Murray.

549
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Speaker 6: The Spurs are trading for, maybe not Young, maybe not

550
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 6: Red Popovich that I'm home from the team USA yamp

551
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 6: once upon a time.

552
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.

553
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Speaker 6: I don't think that trade happens if the Popovitch is

554
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Speaker 6: still coaching.

555
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Speaker 4: Fair enough? Fair enough? What about uh Lakers?

556
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Speaker 6: I mean, the Lakers are allegedly going after Trey Young,

557
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 6: but if you watch that game, I saw Lakers fans

558
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 6: were not enthused about the idea of trading all of

559
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Speaker 6: their future assets for Trey Young.

560
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Speaker 4: We'll see we got the whole off season to talk

561
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Speaker 4: about the Hawks. Let's get to some other news. Unless

562
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 4: you have anything else on your Chicago Bulls. Anyone we

563
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: knew in attendance there, Uh, not that I'm aware of.

564
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 6: Not that I'm aware of. Everybody I was seeing, was

565
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 6: texting from home.

566
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Speaker 4: Okay, great? Anything else in the other notes? All right,

567
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Speaker 4: let's move to some news because we have the Western

568
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 4: Conference Final playing game on Friday night, and we know

569
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: that Pelicans forward Zion Williamson he will not be in it.

570
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: Ruled out of that elimination game against the Kings with

571
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Speaker 4: the left hamstring strain. He's going to be reevaluated in

572
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Speaker 4: like two weeks. So again, sort of similar to if

573
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Speaker 4: the Heat can beat the Bulls and get in as

574
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Speaker 4: the eight seed. Well, same thing with the Pelicans. If

575
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Speaker 4: they do beat the Kings, they will be without Zion

576
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 4: for a little bit. Here. I'm not sure if you

577
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Speaker 4: have what to add to this, except it's like the

578
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: worst timing ever.

579
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Speaker 5: It is after he played the most games of his

580
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 5: career this season, playing seventy games. He looked obviously spectacular.

581
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 5: I thought it was the best game of his career,

582
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 5: dropping forty there. That being said, I'd rather Sacramento Kings

583
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 5: are that eight seed just just because they are the

584
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 5: better team without Zion and Brandon Ingram is not playing himself,

585
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 5: and see Jim McCollum, who knows what you get from him.

586
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 5: They're not as good a team as Sacramento Kings. So selfishly,

587
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 5: as a basketball fan, the one to eight combo, I'd

588
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 5: rather see the Kings in there just because they are

589
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 5: the far better team. So I hope that the Kings

590
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Speaker 5: are able.

591
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Speaker 4: To finally beat the Pelicans. They're zero and five and

592
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Speaker 4: I think one of them was without Zion. I think

593
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 4: they got waxed actually in the one game without Zion.

594
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: There's seven and five. The Pelicans are without Zion this year,

595
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: not brutal. I don't know who those teams are. I

596
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 4: didn't go for a deep dive, but.

597
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Speaker 3: Ingram is not the same guy right now, so that's

598
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Speaker 3: a problem.

599
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Speaker 6: Definitely encouraging though, if you are the Kings, because you're like,

600
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 6: we beat the Warriors now this team is completely banged up.

601
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 6: Who cares if they beat us five times in the

602
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 6: regular season, they can absolutely beat the Pelicans because I

603
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Speaker 6: think with no Zion playing for New Orleans, rim protection

604
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 6: becomes less of an issue for Sacramento. And then I

605
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 6: think you look at the Lithuanian showdown to Bonus and

606
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 6: Jonis Valanciunis. If valan Junis gets into foul trouble likes,

607
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 6: there's nobody that can guard the Bonus on the Pelicans.

608
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 6: So I think the three point game is going to

609
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 6: be pretty big time here because there are times when

610
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 6: the Pelicans just cannot hit and the Kings catch fire.

611
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 6: Now they don't have hurd Er, they don't have Monk,

612
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 6: two guys who are big three point shooters for them,

613
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 6: but we just thowt Kegan Burray have an awesome game.

614
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 6: So terrible timing for the Pelicans, but Sacramento, for the

615
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 6: way their season ended and the way things went after

616
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 6: their third seed appearance last year, they got to be

617
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 6: feeling good for Friday.

618
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Speaker 4: It's weird when you think back, and I think you

619
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: brought this up after the injury desion there. We were

620
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: talking about the Pelicans at some point this year, like

621
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 4: they were like a half game out of fourth place,

622
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 4: and that's when Brandon Ingram hyper extended his left his knee,

623
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Speaker 4: excuse me, so that then they started to slide, and

624
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 4: I think Alvarado had a like an oblique strain as well,

625
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: and that he was out for a couple of games.

626
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: Like they just got hit by that injury bug right

627
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 4: after we had talked about like, wow, Pelicans, everybody's sort

628
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 4: of healthy. Oh yeah, this is a really good team

629
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 4: when everybody's out there, and then Za zaps them and

630
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 4: then that drops them there. Otherwise they're not even in

631
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: that game, you know, really, they're not in that play

632
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 4: in situation needing Zion to try and carry them across

633
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 4: the finish line against the Lakers. So just that domino

634
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: effect of those injuries there, starting with Ingram, who doesn't

635
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: look good at all. Right, hopefully has a better game

636
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 4: against the Kings on Friday night, but we will see.

637
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: In other news, the NBA issued a lifetime ban two

638
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,959
Speaker 4: Raptors forward John Day Porter on Wednesday for violating league

639
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 4: gambling rules. The league's investigation found Porter guilty of quote,

640
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: disclosing confidential information to sports betters, limiting his own participation

641
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 4: in one or more games for betting purposes, and betting

642
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: on NBA games. And I guess we have learned he

643
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: was betting against the Raptors. He was saying the Raptors

644
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 4: are going to lose. Now, that's a good bet this year.

645
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: We're being honest, but Silver says, you're out of here.

646
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: Lifetime ban. We had talked about this when the news broke.

647
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: Obviously the investigation was happening. We had those Silver comments,

648
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: sort of those cryptic comments coming out saying I got

649
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: all the power in the world, and we were thinking, eh,

650
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: is he just teeing up here? A lifetime man? And

651
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 4: in the end, Jontay Porter gets it. You surprised at all.

652
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: I do think it would be different if it was

653
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: a more of a big time player. I don't think

654
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: it would necessarily been a lifetime ban. But you go

655
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: through all the bets, it makes sense he put in

656
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 5: bets and one he bet on the Rappers when he

657
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 5: against the Rappers, I should say when he wasn't playing, Yes,

658
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 5: he needs to be not playing anymore. I mean, I

659
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: think that does make sense. But this is just the

660
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 5: opening of the faucet here Ian sports scambling is legal,

661
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 5: more people will be betting on it. It is going

662
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: to happen, people will be addicted. I think there just

663
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 5: needs to be more rules and regulations here on who participates.

664
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 3: There needs to be.

665
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: An age restriction, I think the funding of accounts needs

666
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 5: to come from cash or bank accounts rather than credit

667
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: cards where people can just have a debt for the

668
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: rest of their life. And this parlaying of prop bets

669
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: is an odd scenario to me, and that's what Johntay

670
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 5: Porter was involved in along with his betting friends. If

671
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 5: you can parlay prop bets, you know, that just means

672
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: that people who have an in here to the players

673
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 5: can make more money and can deceive things more. So

674
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 5: I think the parlaying prop bets needs to go away.

675
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 5: Just they need to be singular bets and there needs

676
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 5: to be far less money able to bet on them.

677
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 5: So there's all that, but Johntay's just just the beginning.

678
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 6: It feels like to me, this was an easy decision.

679
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 6: I bet for Adam Silver. Once they did the investigation

680
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 6: and saw that he bet literally against the Raptors to lose,

681
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 6: there was no way he was coming back from this,

682
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 6: especially because, like Tass says, this is a guy that's

683
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 6: barely established in the NBA. It's kind of, you know,

684
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 6: weird to say, but almost the best case scenario for

685
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 6: the NBA that the first time this happens is with

686
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 6: the guy, and nobody's ever heard of it's easy to

687
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 6: ban him from the league. So not a surprise that

688
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 6: it happens. And we'll see how soon something like this

689
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 6: happens again.

690
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's wild. I mean, he is now never going

691
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: to play in the NBA again. Just to like put

692
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: into context his sort of career, because a lot of

693
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: people probably don't really know much about him, but he

694
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 4: did overcome a lot of injury related adversity when he

695
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: was younger. Right, this is a guy that missed his

696
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 4: sophomore season after he tore both his ACL and his

697
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: MCL in a scribbage. Five months later, while rehabilitating, he

698
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: tore the ACL again. So you would think a lot,

699
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of guys that's happened to unfortunately,

700
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: and probably that's it for their NBA career or their

701
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 4: hopes of making the NBA. He stuck with it. He

702
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: went undrafted in twenty nineteen, still tried to make it

703
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 4: through the league, went the G League route, I guess.

704
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: He signed a multi year deal with the Grizzlies, but

705
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 4: then bounced around the G League and in December he

706
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: signed a two way contract with the Raptors for about

707
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: four hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, and by all accounts,

708
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: I know Michael Grange of Sportsnet was reporting this, he

709
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 4: was playing well enough for the Raps to probably get

710
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 4: another guaranteed track for next season. I would have been

711
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 4: around two million dollars per year, if not a little

712
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: bit more. So he threw all that away, a lot

713
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: of money for violating the NBA's you know policy here

714
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 4: on gambling, which in what in the end he made

715
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: was it twenty.

716
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 5: Thousand and sixty five?

717
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah? Not great there. You know, I would rather take

718
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 4: the guaranteed two mill made two point one mill of

719
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: a guaranteed NBA contract than that. But you know, he's

720
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 4: was in this world addicted to it. I assume it

721
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: was making a lot of bets and then when things

722
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: were getting a little too crazy, he's betting against his team.

723
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 4: He's putting these prop bets or with betters on himself

724
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: and taking himself out brutal. Yeah, I mean, honestly stupid.

725
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: Like I mean, if you're.

726
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 6: Stupid, it's just savage dollars on a Johntay Porter prop. Yeah,

727
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 6: it's like a guaranteed red flag, right right, right, right?

728
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: So he is gone, and have we heard from Michael

729
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 4: Porter Junior, his brother have been I've heard him on podcast, Yeah,

730
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 4: I've heard him on has some interesting podcast clips as well.

731
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 4: But has he been asked about this yet? Could have

732
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: any impact on him here in the Nuggets Lakers series?

733
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 4: Probably not something, Yeah, yeah, I know.

734
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

735
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 5: And the fact that he makes a lot more money

736
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 5: than Johntay Port did, so people to initially say, oh,

737
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 5: he doesn't need to gamble as much because they make

738
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 5: so much money. But I think restricting how much people

739
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: can actually gamble would also restrict or limit which people

740
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: put more money into not only their bets, but also

741
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 5: they're friends, because that better that Johntay Porter knew. He

742
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 5: put it eighty thousand dollars onto one of his props,

743
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: which would have won him one point one million dollars

744
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: because it was a parlay. The parlays are too much. Anyways,

745
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 5: the bet was frozen and it wasn't paid initially. But yes,

746
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 5: I'm reading all Johntay Porter's history where he came from.

747
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 5: It was fun to read, to be honest, in the past.

748
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

749
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 5: When when Blake Murphy wrote about it, it was a

750
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 5: great read. How he overcame it Michael Porter Junior also

751
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: had the back problems and helped his brother get through it.

752
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: But then reading this, he bet at least thirteen times

753
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 5: on NBA games through a friends account. He bet fifty

754
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 5: four thousand on NBA games and one twenty one thousand.

755
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 5: He didn't bet on games he played, but he bet

756
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 5: on the Raptors to lose. He disclosed confidential information about

757
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: his health to a better before a March twenty game.

758
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 5: Interesting stuff there, and then the better placing money on

759
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 5: a parlay. Yes, it's way way too involved. There's just

760
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 5: way too many bets to be made. And so if

761
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 5: he gives out information and you can bet that way,

762
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: then that's the something that has to be regulated. As

763
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: Adam Silver did mention.

764
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Silver, he doesn't care if you're betting on

765
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 4: the NFL. He doesn't care if you're betting on all

766
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: these other leagues. Just don't bet on the NBA. And specifically,

767
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 4: if and I guess if you're gonna do it, don't

768
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: be as stupid to get caught by betting on yourself

769
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: then removing yourself from games. I mean, that's the insane part.

770
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: Because he's not the only NBA player I'm gonna go

771
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 4: out on a limb. That is a bet on games

772
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: in the NBA, maybe even themselves through other betters. They've

773
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: just done it better at to this point, that's the truth.

774
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 4: They haven't been caught like this, Like this guy was

775
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: pretty blatantly. So we will uh, we'll see who's next. Unfortunately,

776
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 4: this is a sad way to put it, because it

777
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: will happen again here all right, Moving on to the

778
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference playoff previews. You asked for it, you got it, Toyota,

779
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: No Cleveland. The Calves had a healthy lead heading into

780
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter of Game eighty two versus Charlotte, but JB.

781
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: Bickerstaff cleared the bench. They leaned into the l out.

782
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 4: They didn't want to have the number two seed. Oh man,

783
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 4: that might mean having to take on the six Ers

784
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 4: a heat. So maybe a little gamesmanshipped there to set

785
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: up this series with Orlando. Cleveland and Orlando they split

786
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: their season series two two. They both won once on

787
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: each other's court. It's been a minute since they played, though,

788
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: So here we go, four or five. What's one thing

789
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: you're watching? Four tests Cleveland Orlando series.

790
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 5: That's a fun one because there are many things to

791
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: look at here, but my first look is big picture,

792
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 5: and that's Donovan Mitchell to me, because look, the beginning

793
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: of the season, he was incredible most of the season,

794
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: an All NBA player.

795
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: He was so good.

796
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: They were thirty six and seventeen going into the All

797
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 5: Star break and after the All Star break they went

798
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: twelve to seventeen. It is strange. It's really two iterations

799
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 5: of this team. And since the All Star breaking, Donovan

800
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 5: Mitchell has not been himself. He only played an eleven

801
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 5: of those twenty nine games because of a knee and

802
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 5: a nose.

803
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: So who is this guy? How good is he?

804
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: Is he going to go back to his old self?

805
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: And he did have a couple good games to end

806
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 5: the season. He averaged thirty one in those two games,

807
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: so the Cavs can be optimistic. He did sit the

808
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: final day, so like a lot of guys, they sat

809
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 5: that final day just so the Cavs could be in

810
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 5: this spot.

811
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: So is he ready?

812
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 5: Because when he came to Cleveland, he came off a

813
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: bad playoff round with the Utah Jazz and then had

814
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 5: a terrible round last year against the New York Nicks.

815
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: He was not himself.

816
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 5: But prior to that he was a monster. So I

817
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: think these two consecutive playoffs where he hasn't been himself,

818
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 5: he's got something to play for here. Jalen Suggs is

819
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: going to be guarding him. It's going to be fun

820
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 5: when he takes that floor. But I think he does

821
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 5: have He's got a lot to play for and hopefully

822
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 5: he's healthy enough and.

823
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: He's he used to look like it.

824
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: He was awesome in those years with the Jazz where

825
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 5: he was so good. So that's what I'm watching. Mitchell

826
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 5: versus Suggs, who is a very very good defender.

827
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 4: Could see some Jonathan Isaac I guess thrown on him

828
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: as well, get some length on him. How many minutes

829
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: we'll see from Isaac played a ton in that last

830
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 4: game for Orlando. What are you watching for here? T

831
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: k Oh?

832
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, Which Mitchell we're getting? I think is a huge

833
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 6: question for Cleveland. I'm excited to see Paula Boncaro playing

834
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 6: in his first postseason here, but I think the big

835
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 6: thing to watch is the possession game, and I think

836
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 6: Orlando absolutely has to win it. That comes down to

837
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 6: offensive rebounding. We saw how great the Knicks were against

838
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 6: Cleveland last year. Orlando is a good offensive rebounding team.

839
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 6: There's seventh in offensive rebound rate this season, but the

840
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 6: Cavs are seventh in defensive rebound this season. We'll see

841
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 6: how that plays out. More importantly, though, I think, is

842
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 6: Orlando needs the force turnovers and they need to take

843
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 6: care of the ball. Orlando's the best in the league

844
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 6: at forcing turnovers, and Cleveland turns the ball over a

845
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 6: fair amount, but Orlando can get a little loose with

846
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 6: it too, So I think that Orlando needs to take

847
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 6: care of the ball when they're on offense, and they

848
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 6: need the force turnovers, get out and run against Cleveland.

849
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: Cleveland has a really great defense, especially in the half court.

850
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 6: So I think an easy way for the Magic to

851
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 6: generate offense is playing as fast as they possible possibly can,

852
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 6: because when Cleveland set up, it's going to be an

853
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 6: absolute struggle for Orlando.

854
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless they've got a Franz Wagner finally finds his

855
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 4: three point shot and stuff like that. Not a lot

856
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 4: of shooting from the perimeter. And then like the flip

857
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: side of that is when the Calves were rolling. That

858
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: was when they had a bunch of shooters out there

859
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 4: and they were letting it fly and hitting a ton

860
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: of them. Uh, who's an X factor in this four

861
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: or five matchup?

862
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 5: I went pretty generic here because watching the Calves last

863
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 5: year when they win against New York was horrible. They

864
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: just weren't themselves. It's sort of like the rebounding thing,

865
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 5: which is a great determination type of thing. They're both

866
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 5: good rebounding teams. As you said, the Calves are great

867
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: defensive rebounding team. They don't allow second chance points, but

868
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: the Magic can if they want because they're a good

869
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 5: offensive rebounding teams.

870
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: So this is more of a.

871
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 5: Fight issue to me, which team are we going to

872
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: see from the Cleveland Cavaliers, Because, like Jared Allen said

873
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 5: last year about playing the Knicks, the lights were a

874
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 5: little too bright. This team just wasn't themselves. They didn't

875
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 5: have it last year. So who are they going to

876
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 5: be now? They picked this team, They picked the Orlando

877
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 5: Magic to play basically, yeah, and so that could be

878
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 5: some bolton board for the Magic for sure. The Calves

879
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: also have the experience against this Orlando Magic team. I

880
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 5: know it sounds weird to think about. Jared Allen and

881
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: Evan Mobley and Darius Garland has experienced guys, but they

882
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 5: were there last year and Don Mitchell has been there

883
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 5: for a long time, and you know, they brought some

884
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 5: oldies in there, like guys who have experience in max S,

885
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: Truce At, you know, George and Yang.

886
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: They have a bunch of those guys.

887
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 5: But the Magic have size, as we talked about, like

888
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 5: they have monsters. So if if they don't feel like

889
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 5: rebounding defensively, Magic are gonna kill him. They have monsters

890
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 5: on this team. And Wendell Carter, Bancaro two Wagner's Agoga

891
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 5: and Jonathan Isaac.

892
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: That's they just keep coming. Yeah, waves of big guys.

893
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 5: That's six guys that are six ten or bigger. So

894
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 5: are you gonna be trying? Are you going to be

895
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: trying to be the team you can be? And they

896
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: were for a long time. Are they gonna have that

897
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: groove back? They asked for this so it'll be fun.

898
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 4: Do you have an X factor from other team?

899
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 6: Got to get a body on. No, Wagner, that guy's

900
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 6: crazy on the offensive boards. But for me, the X

901
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 6: factor is Cole Anthony Orlando's six and four When he

902
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 6: scores twenty or more points, that's not that many that's

903
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 6: not that often, but they're also thirteen and five when

904
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 6: he has five or more assists. Need some backpurt production.

905
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 6: I do believe Orlando does. So that's gonna be sugs,

906
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 6: force and turnovers, hitting threes, doing what he can defensively

907
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: against Mitchell and Garland and then Cole Anthony. I think

908
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 6: you just have a heater of a series here for

909
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 6: the Orlando Magic to be able to score enough to

910
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 6: keep up with Cleveland, because unfortunately, I think this was

911
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 6: a solid tank job by the Calves.

912
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 4: I think they made the right choice here.

913
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 6: You think so, yes, they're gonna smash this one.

914
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, Interesting, Well let's get to predictions. Then why wait,

915
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 4: why don't you get a started. You're leaning towards the

916
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: Cleveland Cavaliers.

917
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 6: I'm leaning towards the Cleveland Cavaliers. They haven't been inspiring

918
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 6: during the second half of the season. Orlando has definitely

919
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 6: looked a lot better. But these two teams are very

920
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 6: similar to each other, and definitely the Calves have more

921
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 6: experience and definitely more offensive firepower as well. So I

922
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 6: think Orlando needs to limit Cleveland's three pointers because Cleveland

923
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 6: shoots him and Orlando doesn't so Orlando kind of has

924
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 6: to make it back at the free throw line, which

925
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 6: they're pretty good at. They're going to draw and files

926
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 6: with Franz and Paala especially, But I think that this

927
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 6: is going to be a rude awakening for the magic.

928
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 4: I will take the Calves in.

929
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say six. I want to go five, but

930
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be Calves in six.

931
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: But when you say, when you say it sounds more

932
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 4: like a smash, Its like a smash. Sex feels like, Okay,

933
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: it's a series. But you're leaning, of course to the

934
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 4: one team. Okay, So Calves in six.

935
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

936
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: As Trey said there at the end, the Cavs are

937
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 5: a weird team. They sometimes perform like they did when

938
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 5: they were rolling, but sometimes I'm not sure about them.

939
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 5: I do think their big play the series of their careers,

940
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 5: both Mobiley and Jared Allen and Donovan Mitchell. Whoever it's

941
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 5: Jalen Sugs or Jonathan Isaac, he'll be able to overcome

942
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 5: it because it's been a long time coming for him

943
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 5: to have a good series like he did in twenty

944
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 5: one and when he was in the bubble and then yeah,

945
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 5: twenty in the bubble and then twenty one the year

946
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 5: after that, he was awesome. So I just buy them.

947
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 5: Is it a smashy five? I'll do it. I'll do it.

948
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: I think that.

949
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, they bought all in for this, so hopefully it

950
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 5: all comes to fruition here for them, because yeah, last

951
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: year was really bad. That was one of the most

952
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 5: horrific series so to watch. They got smashed.

953
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah, yeah five. Yeah.

954
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: TIBs just put everybody on Donovan Mitchell out by the

955
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,479
Speaker 5: three point line to double them, and they couldn't do anything.

956
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 5: They couldn't solve anything. They look like the play in

957
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 5: game there with the seventy six ers not knowing what

958
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 5: to do with the zone. I got five, give me

959
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 5: five for the calves?

960
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why not?

961
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: Wow? Yeah, I know I'm going repeat last year. I

962
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: got Magic winning Game one, just like the Knicks did.

963
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: You went through a TK. They're very similar in ways

964
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 4: to what TIBs and the Knicks did in theory to

965
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: them last year. They could replicate that they have an identity.

966
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: I loved what I saw the last little stretch there

967
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: from the Magic and anytime I tuned in to watch

968
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: them game at least, love liked the joy the little

969
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 4: energy that they were playing with. Where the calves, I mean, yeah,

970
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: what was it twelve and seventeen down the stretch here

971
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: they're they're the opposite of that. I'm leaning towards the Magic.

972
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: This is going to be some ugly games. I assume

973
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: this is why it's going to be on NBA TV,

974
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: But I think the Magic are gonna come out victorious.

975
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 4: I'm very excited about Palo first postseason here. I think

976
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: there'll be some rough games in there, but there's gonna

977
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 4: be some gems as well. I'm going Magic in six,

978
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna swerve against you guys in this one,

979
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 4: which is always nice to have a few of us

980
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: on opposite side. So I'm going to Orlando to replicate

981
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: what the Knicks did to Cleveland last year. And then

982
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 4: here we go with the Donovan Mitchell trade rumors. Fire

983
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 4: them up, baby, all right? So kas and six Cavs

984
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 4: and five Magic and six Okay, next one, two quarter guys, Schumann. Here.

985
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 4: Five months ago, the Milwaukee Bucks and Indiana Pacers fought

986
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: over which team got to keep the game ball. Now

987
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: they'll fight over a spot in the East semis good

988
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 4: stuff shoo. Incredibly, this is the first playoff meeting between

989
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 4: the two Central Division rivals in twenty four years. That said,

990
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 4: they've already played five times this season, they already had

991
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 4: a series this year, Indy took it for to one,

992
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 4: one of those wins coming in Vegas. All of those

993
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 4: games a whole long time ago. And we know the

994
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 4: whole Jannis factor here that will be playing at least

995
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 4: in Game one on the weekend. What's one thing to

996
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: watch Game one?

997
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 5: Probably game two, in game three without Yiannis some somewhere

998
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 5: in that realm, it feels like, so there's gonna be

999
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 5: a lot on Damian Lillard's shoulders offensively for this team.

1000
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 5: And I wonder how Andrew Nevhart, who's going to get

1001
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: physical with him, and Aaron E. Smith, who will also

1002
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 5: get physical with him, are going to play Damian Lillard.

1003
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 5: Because Damian Lillard has not been himself recently. His numbers

1004
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 5: have not been good. And with rules allowing defense to

1005
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 5: be more physical in the playoffs, allowing defense to be

1006
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 5: more physical, I wonder how Dame is going to play.

1007
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 5: He also has an injured groin. He missed practice this week.

1008
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 5: And you could say, well, this team made the finals

1009
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 5: a few years ago, with Brooke and Chris and Beverly.

1010
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 5: But those guys I say, Brooke and Chris and then

1011
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 5: Beverly has joined because they're all old.

1012
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm pointing out the.

1013
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 5: Old guys here because it's really on Dame. I think

1014
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 5: a lot of this is on Dame. The Pacers are

1015
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 5: going to focus on him, So if he's huge in

1016
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 5: this series, then that favors the Bucks. But I'm not

1017
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 5: sure how good he'll be considering what he's been recently.

1018
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 6: It's Dame time versus Halle Hour completely who's tapping the

1019
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 6: Risks at the end of this series, because you mentioned it.

1020
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 6: Dame has been struggling thirty nine percent from the field

1021
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 6: twenty eight percent from three his last five games. But

1022
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 6: the wins the Bucks have during this season without Giannis

1023
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 6: Dame went crazy thirty seven to thirteen against Toronto, forty

1024
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 6: one and four against the Clippers, thirty one and sixteen

1025
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 6: against the Suns, twenty nine and nine against Orlando, that

1026
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 6: Raptors team they were still trying, So those are actually

1027
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 6: four pretty solid wins where Dame was really performing well.

1028
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 4: But he's got to be able to throw it back.

1029
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 6: I think Haliburton is a question Mark as Well nineteen

1030
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 6: and ten in his last seven games, shooting thirty five

1031
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 6: percent from three, which is great because he's only thirty

1032
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 6: percent from the three point line since the All Star Break.

1033
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,959
Speaker 6: He's kind of lost the step to the side three,

1034
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 6: which is his go to move that allows him to

1035
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 6: attack inside. So I think if the Bucks are going

1036
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 6: to win this, they've got to get Dame from Portland,

1037
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 6: basically because they got to hit some threes in this series.

1038
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 6: Indiana allows the fewest perl hundred possessions in the entire league.

1039
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: They just really take away three pointers and you can

1040
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 6: score inside easily.

1041
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 4: But the Bucks, they're a three.

1042
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 6: Point shooting team. They make the fifth most in the league.

1043
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 6: So Dame's gonna have to get hot. We're gonna have

1044
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 6: to see some Malik Beasley time, which is scary to

1045
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 6: put that guy out there defensively, but in some of

1046
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 6: these games he's been scoring thirty alongside Dame and those wins.

1047
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 6: Portis has to have a decent series and maybe aj

1048
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 6: Green with his funky release, knocks down some shots. The

1049
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: Bucks gotta be able to hit from outside.

1050
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you said, like, yeah, the Pacers give up

1051
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: a ton of points in the paint. Well, they're gonna

1052
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 4: be missing Giannis. The Bucks are, right, guys, I think

1053
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: leads the league in points in the paint. That's a

1054
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 4: whole lot usually from him. So who will be scoring

1055
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: in there if the Pacers do a good job of

1056
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: trying to take away the three point from a lot

1057
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 4: of those shooters that you said, Do you have an

1058
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: X factor in this three to six matchup?

1059
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned Bobby Portis. Bobby to me has been

1060
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 5: able to come in when Yannis has been out the

1061
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 5: rotation and he's been awesome. He averaged twenty and ten

1062
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: in the nine games Yannis didn't play the season, twenty

1063
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 5: and ten. He will be defending Pascal Siakam, who has

1064
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 5: not played in that five game series against the Milwaukee

1065
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 5: Bucks as a member of the Indiana Pacers because he

1066
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 5: came over late after that. He's new to this matchup.

1067
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: He had some good games against Milwaukee Bucks. It has

1068
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: been a couple of years since he did that with

1069
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 5: the Toronto Raptors, but that was also against Yannison Brook

1070
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 5: in a four or five. So how Bobby Porters defends

1071
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 5: him at the four is going to interest me because

1072
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 5: Pascal could he could be asked to do a lot.

1073
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 5: With Halliburton's situation, he may not be himself. Pascal Siakam

1074
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 5: has won a ship. He has been a guy who

1075
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 5: can be a really good supporting player in the playoffs.

1076
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: So Pascal versus Bobby is going to be interesting for

1077
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 5: me because Bobby's just he rips off the bandit. He

1078
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 5: goes at it, you know, both physically and offensively without

1079
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 5: Yannis out.

1080
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: So that's that's big.

1081
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 5: It's big for the Bucks, and we'll see how Pascal

1082
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 5: can handle it.

1083
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,959
Speaker 6: I think brook Lopez is a basically for the same reason.

1084
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 6: I think he's the X factor for Milwaukee and specifically

1085
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 6: getting Miles Turner into fil trouble because if you have

1086
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 6: to go into the Jalen Smith Isaiah Jackson range, you're

1087
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 6: feeling good if you're Milwaukee, even with Dame or even

1088
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 6: with Giannis out. I just flashed back to Game five

1089
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 6: against Atlanta. Giannis busts up his knee, looks like he's

1090
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 6: done for looks like the Hawks are maybe getting into

1091
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 6: the NBA Finals, and brook Lopez goes out, puts up

1092
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 6: thirty three points, seven rebounds, and four blocks. He dominated

1093
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 6: the Hawks inside that series. That was three years ago.

1094
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 6: I mean, that's a lot.

1095
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: It's all these old guys on the Bucks. We're just like,

1096
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 4: do they still have a game or two each within

1097
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: them to veterans shoot? Go on? Yeah? Can they do

1098
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: it well? I think?

1099
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 6: I think Brook Lopez can certainly score on Miles Turner,

1100
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 6: but he has to and then on the flip side

1101
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 6: of it, him playing portis playing. All of their guys

1102
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 6: are old. They got to get back in transition because

1103
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 6: the Pacers love to run. Yeah, And that is one

1104
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 6: of the weaknesses for the Bucks and one of the

1105
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 6: things that Doc Rivers tried to address right away. They've

1106
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 6: definitely been better since he took over for Adrian Griffin.

1107
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 6: But Milwaukee really struggles against teams that are more athletic,

1108
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 6: and the Pacers have an athleticism advantage in this one.

1109
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, watch the number of fast break points from Indiana.

1110
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 4: If they hit twenty, they're feeling good. Twenty three and

1111
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 4: four when Indiana hit twenty fast breakpoints or more in

1112
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 4: a game, and you have illustrated before many times tk

1113
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 4: the limitations of Milwaukee because of their age, because of

1114
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 4: their dedication to like maybe really hustling to get back.

1115
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 4: They've been killed on that before. Now Beverly's in the

1116
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 4: starting lineup here, you know Beverly's gonna be a lot

1117
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: of time on Haliburt, and you know he's gonna be

1118
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 4: all up in him trying to frustrate him. So he's huge,

1119
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: big X factor from Milwaukee, and can he like bring

1120
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 4: the three point shot as well at least keep them honest.

1121
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 4: And the Pacers I also have like their entire bench

1122
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 4: as an X factor because they're really good. They've been

1123
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: really good since the All Star Break. A lot of

1124
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: these guys contributing some of those big some of the wings.

1125
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: I think a lot of bodies, Rick Carlisle, I mean,

1126
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are gonna be confident

1127
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: he's gonna out coach Doc Rivers maybe here when you

1128
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: get into some x's and o's. So that's got they

1129
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: got that going from them as well. Let's hear your picks.

1130
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: It's a tough one. I mean, it's the honest factor

1131
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: for sure. It's the idea, like how much stock are

1132
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 4: you putting into the regular season where the Pacers have

1133
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: had their number but it's so long ago.

1134
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been changes, There's been a lot of change.

1135
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but where are you going, Yeah.

1136
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: It's tough.

1137
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 4: I struggled with this one.

1138
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 5: I will say the Bucks do look very different with

1139
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 5: Patrick Patrick Beverley starting beside Damian Lillard, just in terms

1140
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 5: of an effort level, in terms of getting back against

1141
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 5: this really really fast team, this team that likes to

1142
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 5: play extremely hard. It's going to be different. The Milwaukee

1143
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 5: Bucks will get back. I but then the Pacers, Yeah,

1144
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 5: they have the depth of t J McConnell can be

1145
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: as pesky as Patrick Beverly in terms of backcourt guys.

1146
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 5: But I think considering the Milwaukee Bucks have home court

1147
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 5: a engine, they are a really really good home court team.

1148
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 5: I think they went but a little respect to the Pacers.

1149
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 5: I'm taking the Bucks in seven and uh. That'll be

1150
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 5: a and I assume Yannis will be back at some

1151
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 5: point in this series, so he'll be back for the

1152
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 5: late games. I imagine, where.

1153
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 4: Are you going?

1154
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: I'm laying in towards what Tass is saying as well.

1155
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 6: Box and seven actually sounds pretty good assuming Giannis comes

1156
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 6: back late. But I don't know. It feels a bit

1157
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 6: like a coin flip. So I'll do Bucks and seven.

1158
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 4: I think this is the first one we've all agreed on.

1159
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: I'm also going Bucks and seven. I'm glad that we

1160
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 4: don't have a ton that we've all had the exact same.

1161
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's tough. With the honest thing. It feels

1162
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: it truly feels like it'll be Pacers in six if

1163
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 4: they can take care of that Game six at home,

1164
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: or it will be Milwaukee winning on their home court.

1165
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: I don't know why it feels that way. I'll go

1166
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 4: with you, guys, I will go Bucks and seven in

1167
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: what could be a very rare seven game series in

1168
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference in the first round. Been a long

1169
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: time since we've had one, so hopefully it's entertaining. Let's

1170
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: hear from you guys out there when it comes to

1171
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 4: that series. All right, the final one we know in

1172
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference got locked in last night when the

1173
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 4: Sixers beat the Heat. It is the Knicks and the

1174
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 4: seventy six ers. It's the Tim Bond Temps can sleep

1175
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: in his own bed series. Okay. The Knicks one the

1176
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 4: season series three to one, capitalizing on Joel Embiid's absence

1177
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: from three of those meetings. Nick's victories came by margins

1178
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 4: of thirty six, fourteen, and twenty seven. So really good stuff.

1179
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 4: Not bad there for the historians. This will be the

1180
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 4: tenth playoff meeting of these franchises, first since nineteen eighty nine,

1181
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 4: Nick Sixers, what is that, Mark Jackson eighty nine that

1182
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: was around that time. So two seven Knicks Philly. One

1183
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 4: thing to watch tests.

1184
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 5: I wonder how the Sixers are gonna defend Jalen Brunson period.

1185
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 5: I wonder what Nick Brunts or Nick Nurse is going

1186
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: to do with that, because the Sixers don't have a

1187
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 5: guy to guard him one on one. It's not gonna happen.

1188
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 5: Lowry Maxi healed, Oubra pain not gonna happen. Nick Nurse

1189
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 5: is gonna throw a lot of doubles at him. We're

1190
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: gonna see the twenty nineteen finals all over again when

1191
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 5: they threw guys at Steph Curry or something like that.

1192
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Knicks, they take their time.

1193
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 5: They take the most shots at the end of shot

1194
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: clocks in the NBA in the final six seconds, as

1195
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 5: John Schuman pointed out, So they're gonna wait, They're gonna wait,

1196
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 5: They're gonna wait, They're gonna wait. And how they do

1197
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: the Knicks respond to all these doubles They're gonna have

1198
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 5: cutter after cutter after cutter after cutter in Heart and

1199
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 5: Devincenzo and Ojan and maybe they do that really, really

1200
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: really well. So I expect the Knicks to be cutting

1201
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 5: up the Sixers team. I'm not sure the Sixers can

1202
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 5: guard him at all. He's ready, He's he's definitely ready

1203
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 5: for a first round series, and they don't really have

1204
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 5: those types of guys to guard him.

1205
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 6: I don't think Oh Nick loves the scheme he does.

1206
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 4: He's gotten about his schemes. This guy's the king of

1207
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 4: the schemes. Yeah, that'll do.

1208
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 6: I think Lowry and Batoom will get most of the

1209
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 6: minutes on Brunson. They like the length of Batoom, I think.

1210
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 6: And then Lowry just is the same person, so like

1211
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 6: he understands how to guard.

1212
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 4: He's gonna like draw an offensive charge. He'll flop on one. Yeah,

1213
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: like try it. I mean, tough to rattle a guy

1214
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: like Brunson, but Lowry will give it a go.

1215
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 6: I think it kind of goes both ways because I

1216
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 6: am interested to see what the Knicks do with Joel

1217
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 6: Embiid and if Embiid is able to stay healthy throughout

1218
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 6: this series. I think it's good for him that they

1219
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 6: have nine days to play their first four games. Plus

1220
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 6: they're getting a little bit of rest here having taken

1221
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 6: care of business in the play in tournament. So yeah, Hartenstein,

1222
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 6: I guess is the main guy who's gonna get minutes

1223
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 6: on Embiid. But they'll try Mitchell Robinson precious.

1224
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 4: That Chuo will go in there for a little bit.

1225
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 6: And I wouldn't even be surprised to see like the

1226
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 6: Romer style style scheme where like Ojannobi's actually guarding Joel

1227
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 6: Embiid and then they have the big guy ready to

1228
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 6: help if necessary. So taking away Brunson, taking away Embiid

1229
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 6: is gonna be the chess matcher.

1230
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, on one hand, sucks for Embiid this matchup because

1231
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 4: of all the great defensive bigs from the Knicks. But

1232
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 4: on the other hand, they're playing a team you said

1233
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: it task to play slow, so slow pace. I mean

1234
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 4: it'd be another thing if they were playing the Pacers,

1235
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 4: and like we'd be going hell the hell andm be

1236
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 4: gonna play in this Like yeah, he might score, but like,

1237
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 4: how's he gonna keep up? We saw him last night.

1238
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he might get better as we go here

1239
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 4: in the conditioning catches up, but that's sort of good.

1240
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 4: I guess like the way the Knicks play, they take

1241
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 4: their time, they're methodical, so maybe that works in his favor.

1242
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 4: Do you have an X factor? We'll start with you

1243
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 4: on this one, tray Eve an X factor in New.

1244
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 6: York Philly, Dante DiVincenzo to me is the X factor.

1245
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 6: I think he's probably gonna be the main guy to

1246
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 6: guard Tyrese Maxi, which is a huge assignment from him,

1247
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 6: and then on the offensive end, his three point shooting

1248
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 6: really changes things for New York. The fact that he's

1249
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 6: become a forty percent three point shooter who takes a

1250
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 6: ton is big time for them because basically they got

1251
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 6: role guy in whoever their center is, whether it's Hartenstein

1252
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 6: or Robinson, Jalen Brunson, handles the ball, makes all the plays,

1253
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 6: does whatever is necessary at the end of the shot clock,

1254
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 6: everybody else has to hit threes. Chief among them for

1255
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 6: me is Devincenzo.

1256
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 5: I'm not sure how much to believe in Joel and Bid.

1257
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 5: The fact that he obviously didn't look good in the

1258
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 5: play in tournament also set out the final game for

1259
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 5: the Philadelphia seventy six ers a little puzzling to me

1260
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 5: because he said after the games that he did play

1261
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 5: in I just am not right, and so why not

1262
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 5: play in more games? Well, I guess because the injury

1263
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 5: is prominent. So I'm looking at what Tyres Maxi can

1264
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 5: do beside him, and if they're just going to get

1265
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 5: him going downhill over and over and over and over again,

1266
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 5: I imagine that's going to be Nick Nurse's move to have

1267
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 5: a bunch of dribble handoffs or a bunch of picks

1268
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 5: off the ball where he's just ready to get the

1269
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: ball up top end.

1270
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: Just go, go go.

1271
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 5: He's going to be asked to do a lot and

1272
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 5: he should be good. He should be good at that

1273
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: if they do that. But they have to really change

1274
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 5: their offense. They really have to do this. Stop looking

1275
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 5: at Mba every single possession. Although you know he's if

1276
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 5: he's on the floor, I can understand why.

1277
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 3: He's going to be good.

1278
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 5: But they just have to set up Maxi to be

1279
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 5: good otherwise and then he'll find shooters, which they obviously

1280
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 5: have plenty of. So yeah, the offense, the offense and

1281
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 5: Nick Nurse's schemes, if the scheme man can do it,

1282
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 5: we'll see the Nick.

1283
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 4: Excuse me, the Philadelphia seventy six ers, especially Embiid and

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00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 4: everybody helping out with tips and stuff like that. They

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Speaker 4: have to end possessions defensively on the glass because the

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00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 4: Knicks are best offensive rebounding team. When you're looking at

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Speaker 4: offensive rebound percentage, and most of those it feels like

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00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 4: it's two for a dollar. TK. They get the rebound

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Speaker 4: and then it's kicked out to one of their shooters

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Speaker 4: who can step into it with rhythm. So that's huge,

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Speaker 4: Like that means a bead's gotta be a monster there.

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Speaker 4: And again the Batombs and the Kelly u Brays and

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00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 4: those guys got to help there out as well, either

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Speaker 4: tipping it to their guards or just grabbing it. So

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Speaker 4: I'll be watching that for sure, And just the Embid

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00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: factor just like, yeah, not a lot of confidence after

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Speaker 4: seeing how he looked last night. But I'll play this weekend,

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00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 4: and then you know, you get into the rhythm of

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00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 4: a playoff series where it's every two or three nights.

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Speaker 4: As TK broke down, what'd you say, four games over nineties,

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 4: I think that Jesus when you say it like that. Yeah, no,

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00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 4: wonder the postseason takes two and a half months to play.

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00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 6: The first round is epically long.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, nights. So who do you have winning this series?

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Speaker 4: What's your prediction? Nick? Sixers?

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00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 5: I think the Knicks are going to take care of business.

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00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 5: I'm not buying into what Embiid looks like. Even in

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00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 5: that playing game. I don't think the heat guarded him

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00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 5: well enough. I think they gave him too many opportunities.

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Speaker 5: And I believe in Hertenstein. I believe in Mitchell Robinson

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00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 5: and then Jericho Simms if needed. So I'm taking the

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Speaker 5: Knicks in five. I think they've got enough weapons offensively

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Speaker 5: and enough defensively too.

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Speaker 4: Where are you going?

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Speaker 6: I'm leaning Knicks as well. I can see Embiid having

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 6: his best playoff series and really putting the team on

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00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 6: his back if he's healthier than he's looked so far

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Speaker 6: in his return. But what it's nine straight wins right

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Speaker 6: now for Philadelphia, isn't that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Coming to an end. They're gonna lose Game one. I'll

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Speaker 6: take the Knicks and six.

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Speaker 4: Nicks in six. I'm with TK on this one. I

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00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 4: went back and forth between five or six. I'm gonna go,

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00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: like I said, Nix and six I think we're gonna

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00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: have some monster like brunts and games. Of course, why

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00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 4: wouldn't we the heater he's been on. I think Max

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00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 4: he's gonna be due for a massive game or two

1329
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:53,959
Speaker 4: as well, which is why I'm giving them a couple

1330
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 4: here to go along with Embid. I think he's gonna

1331
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 4: have like a forty point game at one point in

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00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 4: Masson Square, Guard and Brunson have one or two in

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01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 4: this series too. That could be fun, But I'm going

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Speaker 4: New York. The way they've looked, I mean, what's the

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01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: record when Og plays? I mean there's that whole thing too,

1336
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 4: like who's your best player on the team. Okay, we'll

1337
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: just put Og on them or have him all eyes

1338
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 4: on him, and we'll just completely shut that off. I

1339
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: think they're twenty and three or something. When Ognaoby's playing,

1340
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 4: it's an insane record, and the plus minus every time

1341
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: he's out there it's positive. So Nixon six from a

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01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 4: couple of us. Nixon five says task Mellice. Let's hear

1343
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 4: from you all three of the Eastern Conference series. You're

1344
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 4: letting us know in the stream, team let us know

1345
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 4: in the comments. Tweet at US at no dunks inc

1346
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 4: all right, before we go tweet.

1347
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: In the night, tweet out the night.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Twitter, We'll say Twitter has been good the last

1349
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 5: couple of nights NBA Twitter and gets better in the playoffs.

1350
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 5: It does, Yeah, it improves. People get more intense.

1351
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 6: Here JJ Reddick talking about it on the broadcast last night.

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Speaker 3: I missed it though.

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01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 6: Maybe that was two nights ago. JJ Reddick was brought

1354
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: up being on NBA Twitter to Mike Breen and Doris

1355
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 6: Burke and they're like, why are you on Twitter.

1356
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: Last night? Then? Yeah, it was last night? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1357
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 4: I was in the first game.

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01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 6: So they just don't like talking about JJ brought up

1359
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 6: that people on NBA Twitter don't like that embid foul baits.

1360
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 6: So every time he was drawing files on BAM out

1361
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 6: of bio, they were like, does NBA Twitter think that's foal?

1362
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 4: And Breen was it was like a little testy when

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01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 4: it came to like foul calls. That's a foul, that's

1364
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: absolutely foul. You know, why are they looking at it?

1365
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 4: It was leaning into his his decisions.

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Speaker 5: Good trio, Well you go on Twitter, because there's some

1367
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 5: good stuff right there in the playoff, in the postseason

1368
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 5: they're killing it. NBA paint always fine, it's an image.

1369
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 5: Let me paint the picture. Let me NBA painted for you.

1370
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 5: A father and a son sitting in a car. The

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01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 5: son says, Dad, why is my sister's name Rose? Dad says,

1372
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 5: because your mother loves Roses. Well, thanks, Dad, no problem

1373
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 5: playing tournament that's his name. That's all he's thinking.

1374
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: He loves it. He If you guys were to have

1375
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 4: another child, would you name him play in tournament place?

1376
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 4: Sophie for sure? Yeah, wow, there you go. You guys

1377
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 4: only have girls, so yeah it works, Sophie, perfect, No

1378
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 4: choice there, all right. NBA paint, Well, that's another tweet

1379
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 4: of the night for NBA paint. They just came up

1380
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 4: on the Allen iverson a tiny statue. What is this

1381
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 4: the statue for ants? That's right, that's right.

1382
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 3: I didn't realize they're on one.

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01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 4: They're on one, all right. Before we go, i'd like

1384
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: to remind you that if you're a Survivor fan, there

1385
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 4: was a very weird episode last night, and we're going

1386
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 4: to be breaking it down later today at one pm Eastern.

1387
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 4: No Buffs God's on YouTube feeds, podcast feed h again

1388
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 4: around one pm Eastern will go live breaking down the

1389
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 4: dumbest tribal council of all time one for the ages.

1390
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 4: I'll leave it at that. I'll leave it at that.

1391
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: It was pure in sanity. I feel like JD is

1392
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 4: going to be extremely angry on today's No Buff Maybe

1393
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 4: TK is well. I can't wait. I can't wait. Also

1394
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 4: can't wait for tomorrow with the Drop podcast. We'll be

1395
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: here at ten am Eastern. Now, no games on tonight,

1396
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 4: it ain't gonna stop us from doing a show. We'll

1397
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 4: set up the playing games on Friday night at all

1398
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 4: the NBA news and anything else. As we look forward

1399
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: to a very busy weekend of NBA playoffs, we can

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01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 4: drop the postseason when we hit Saturday. It's just playoffs.

1401
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 4: Eight games on schedules are out too. For the most part,

1402
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: we now know the order of teams. Hey, we can

1403
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 4: go over that as well on tomorrow's Drop podcast. Till then,

1404
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 4: Clipper Bros.

1405
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Speaker 6: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

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01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 6: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.

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01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 5: And remember four days or four games, I should say

1409
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 5: every single night in the playoffs to start it Saturday

1410
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 5: and Sunday.

1411
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 3: Are you ready? Are you ready?

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Speaker 4: Are you ready brace the day people