WEBVTT - WrestleMania 41 Recap and More! 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.240 What's up everybody. 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:05.760 Welcome to season five of The Freddy and Jeffrey Show. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.879 Wrestling with Friends is back. It's not the Freddie and 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.840 Jeffrey Show. And we don't have any jingle there, like, yeah, look, 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.480 I got a raise, so I paid for a new 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:16.400 jingle and that's where all the money went. 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:26.799 And now your main event introducing the hosts are Wrestling 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:32.199 Win Freddy chefde and Freddy Friends tune. 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:46.040 Welcome back, everybody. Thanks for supporting us for five years now. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.479 We really really appreciate that this weekend. Last weekend was 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:52.200 WrestleMania weekend. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.960 We get two nights of it now and half for 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.880 a few years now. I think three. Is this the 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.160 third year they've done it like that? 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:02.200 Yeah, but they're go ahead SummerSlam two nights, is what 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.080 I'm hearing. Do you think that's a good idea. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.440 I don't think More wrestling is a bad thing, And 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.160 they're in a position where they can afford to make mistakes, 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.640 so even if it is a mistake, they just won't 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.760 do it again, and they're not gonna go out of business, 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.320 so they can afford to experiment and try things out, 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.360 which is always good for wrestling. But Jeff, We're gonna 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.520 talk about the whole show, but before we do, you 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:30.000 got to be in Las Vegas, the city where I 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.759 have many friends, where I have some family, A lot 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.679 of people that I love are in Las Vegas, and 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.320 I wanted to be there. I almost went with an 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.040 actor buddy of mine, but he wasn't able to go, 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.720 and my wife booked a movie, so I have to 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:46.039 stay and watch the kids while she goes and kicks 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:47.640 ass on that. And I can't even say it yet 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.560 because it's not announced yet, but yeah, you got to 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.920 be on our man on the scene, our man in 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.840 the streets, and you got to not just be there, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.360 but you got to freaking hang out too, and just 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.000 be a dude with other dudes that happen to wrestle 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:05.160 in a professional ring. So tell everybody about your experience, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:06.840 and I don't care how long it takes. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.639 Go ahead, I'll keep it short. Night one and Night 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.560 two wrestling in Las Vegas is was pretty awesome. Wrestling 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:15.600 fans are great. I'm just like, every time I go 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.040 to one of those things, I'm just like, I love 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.760 wrestling fans so much, just like, even when they're doing 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.400 something that makes me like roll my eyes and chuckle 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.079 like it's constant. Like it's just constant. I'm like, I 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:29.440 love these people. It's such a funny fan base and 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.720 a great fan base and a loyal fan base, and 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:36.840 they'll buy everything and anything like they're just the greatest fans. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:38.800 And I had a great time just being a fan. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.320 Night one, I was like eight rows back when and 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:44.839 when you're not on the floor, eight roses kind of far, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.520 so it was kind of hard to see. And I 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:49.239 always go like, let's say you guys didn't get a 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:51.520 chance to go to WrestleMania. Let's say like you weren't 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:55.160 one of the sixty three thousand people in attendance. If 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.760 those numbers are real, you did it right. You know 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.320 you watched it on pay per view or you watched 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.919 it on Peacock Like that that guts. I think that's 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:03.400 the way to do it, because I want to hear 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.799 Michael Cole, I want to hear hear Pat McAfee, I 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.040 want to hear way Beart, And so you know, when 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:10.079 you're there, you don't get the commentary. You just hear 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.680 the real loud Matt slamming, and you get to brag 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:14.120 that you're there and you do get to be with 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.960 the other great wrestling fans. But I think you did 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.160 it right if you stay at home. Night one I 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.080 was like in Row eight, but not on the floor, 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:23.200 but just in the one hundred level. And then a 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.880 night two I was in Stone called Steve Austin's suite. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:28.960 Now another part you might go, well, that's fun, right, Jeff, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:31.720 the suite. But here's the problem with wrestling or like 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.320 WWE or TKO or whoever's in charge. When me and 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.960 you went to WrestleMania, Freddy and we had a suite, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.040 and when we when I went to Steve Austin's suite 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:45.080 on night two, WW for some reason won't let them 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.920 put the feed of the of the program in into 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.360 any of the monitors. So if you get a suite 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.280 for a sporting event, you have all these TVs also 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.240 playing the thing, but wrestling doesn't do that. So when 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.040 you go wait in line for a hot dog or 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.960 a sandwich or a pizza, you don't even get to 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.600 see the action of what's going on because wrestling doesn't 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.600 have it on any of the TVs. So that's also 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.720 terrible in my opinion. So if you stayed home and 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.159 watched it for on Peacock. You did it right. You 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:20.000 did the right thing this. I was at both nights 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.880 of WrestleMania, and I still came home and watched all 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.880 the matches on my iPath because I wanted to hear 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.760 the commentary. I wanted those great shots that wrestling does. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.159 I wanted to see all the things I missed because 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.000 someone's talking to me or people are making jokes around me. 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.400 So if you could do both experiences like I did, 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.279 I would recommend that. But I think you did it 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.760 right if you watched it on Peacock. 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:45.800 The commentary was so great and all three men were 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.840 Wade Barrett, Pat McAfee and Michael Cole did such a 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.480 great job in helping tell the stories that the wrestlers 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.720 were trying to tell in there. I love commentary so much, 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.000 whether it's the UFC, regardless of the crew they put together. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.400 I really enjoy all the all the different crews they 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.919 have there. When it's WWE, I love it. Sometimes in 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.359 WW they get it wrong right, like they've done the 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.000 Mike Adamleys of the world when he came in and 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.040 like didn't know people's names and didn't know the moves. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.880 Tough, and it was It was tough. 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.200 I was the guy that had to basically fire him 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:19.960 or let him know he was getting read when I 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.799 worked there. Yeah, I had to give him the segment 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.320 where he slapped Randy across the face and he goes, well, 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:27.360 wait a minute, if I strike a wrestler, I would 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:32.520 wouldn't I be like fired? And I was like, oh, well, yeah, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:34.520 I'm just the guy bringing you the news. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.080 Yeah, you're also allowed to flirt with anyone at work 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.080 you want now, because you're not going to be here tomorrow, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.800 so go ahead and just break all the rule. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:42.600 No. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.720 I did not advise him to do that, but yeah, man, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.320 the commentary was phenomenal. They've got such a great thing 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.080 going with McAfee and Michael Cole, and their chemistry and 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:55.880 their kind of mutual respect and love for one another 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.080 is so evident, and they just let it flow. And 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.560 this was never This was never a thing when I 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.560 worked there, Jeff, It just didn't. Vince had handcuffs on people, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:11.320 and Vince sometimes he had good notes too, but with commentary, 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.000 they were handcuffed and they had to just call the 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.160 match and use only the words that he allows them 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.760 to use. As far as describing the match and the 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.920 moves and the wrestlers that are in the ring, and 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:24.760 on top of that, he would then tell them what 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.760 to say on there, and you could just feel how 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.880 tight it was. So often and people go, Michael Cole 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.520 sucks and talk trash. Michael Cole doesn't suck. He didn't, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.719 then he doesn't now. But now to see with Triple 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:38.640 H back there and you can really kind of just 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.040 tell they're doing their thing like it is awesome and 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:46.080 the commentary is them fantastic? Yeah, dude, yes, let them cook. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:47.560 So they did a great job. But we're not here 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.120 just to talk about the commentators. We're here to talk 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.359 about professional wrestling, major news, Jeff. It means one less 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.040 indie promotion available to purchase. 0:06:58.120 --> 0:06:58.760 But that's okay. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:03.520 Yes, de has purchased or acquired Triple A Luta Libre. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.120 They're going to do a great job with it. They've 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:09.400 got Vi Kingo, who is the friggin' man. Yeah, they're 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:10.640 gonna crush. They've got a lot. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.840 To explain to our listeners and to your co host, 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.440 Jeff Dye. What does it mean that they've bought this? 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:20.520 Does that mean Triple A which I'm a member, by 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.280 the way, shout out to that. Does that mean that 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:26.400 they're that's not going to be the name anymore? And 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:29.560 now those people are just in WWE or like what 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:30.480 like what does it mean? 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.520 So legally they could change it if they wanted to. 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.720 I don't believe they will. I think they'll keep it 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.520 under the same banner the way they kind of let 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.280 evolve standard It's banner with their TV deal on tob 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:42.720 and well, this one of. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:48.040 Triple A will probably go to eventually. I don't know. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.320 They'll probably just pull from it and allow it to 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.960 be a farm system, like a Ring of Honor type thing. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.800 But they have some really interesting characters in Triple A, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.920 much more like old school Carnie type characters, like Origin 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.640 of Wrestling. It's great for that company, for Dorian and 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.440 all of them down there. I wish them nothing but 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.240 but tons of success, and their wrestlers are going to 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.560 have an opportunity to get seen all over the freaking 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.440 world now on a grand scale. And like I said, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:16.880 they got some interesting characters. I was taking a peek 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.240 at them last year when I had aspirations of doing this, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.680 and they've got a really cool roster man, and they're 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.440 they're funky, and it's really old school and and they've 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.960 got some some living legends right now. Like if you 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.800 haven't seen the King Goo wrestle, go check out. He 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.520 did some AEW matches and was phenomenal. But check out 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.000 his triple A stuff. It's it's freaking If you like 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.720 lucha libre, it's next level. 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:40.160 And his look is gangster. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.680 He looks like one of the Vikings from the Viking Show, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.640 but a little one because he's a little dude who 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.040 can flip all over the place. 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.720 If you know me, you know that I love Mexican wrestling. Yeah, 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.600 that's like my favorite thing. There's the Big Five, right, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:53.920 I don't know what the big four of the Big 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:59.600 five wrestling is America, Pacific, Islanders, Hawaii, Japan because that's 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:04.480 a huge part of wrestling, the Canadians, and then there's Mexico. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:08.880 And in Mexico is by far my favorite style of wrestling. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.360 Our producer said that it's probably there's a chance it 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:15.400 could be rebranded as like NXT Mexico, which I would 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.800 be such a fan of. But any more luchadors in WB, 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.320 I say, sign them all, sign them all up. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:32.400 Let's get in some matches. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:38.200 Night one World Heavyweight Championship Goonther the Champ versus jay 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.600 Uso the Challenger. A long time ago, over a year ago, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.280 I was on I think it was Bully Ray's podcast 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.480 maybe what was that called Busted Open Radio, and they 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.760 were asking me of the like the upcoming next gen 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.960 who I thought was gonna be like the next star, 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:55.560 and I said jay Uso. And this was still like 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.280 when he was in the Bloodline and you and I 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.439 were talking about his acting, and I thought his acting 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.560 was getting really good, and the way he was sort 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.360 of having a hard time choosing between what was right 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:06.960 and wrong and his own morality within the morality of 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.680 the Bloodline, I thought was super interesting. And to see 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.000 him sort of go from that to literally changing the 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.760 what chant to a yeat chant and making a negative 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.800 thing a positive thing. I don't know how he did it. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.439 I don't know if he knows how he did it, 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.559 but he fucking did it. And that's a powerful thing 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.280 to have that kind of manipulation over an entire crowd, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.880 and it's all come to fruition. He is the champ, 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.720 he gets the singles run, the crowd loves his promos. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.560 They love being a part of the show. That's what 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.960 wrestling fans love. They love being a part of the 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:43.839 show that they can actually affect what's going on. That's 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.400 a powerful thing. It doesn't exist in Broadway as much, right, 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.840 Like you're expected to sort of sit there, shut up 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:53.480 and enjoy the show, right, But in wrestling, it's a 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.920 different experience. It's like going to the Rocky Horror Picture 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.959 Show and throwing toast at the screen when they say 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.560 a toast. Or now at the Minecraft movie where the 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.400 kids are going bananas. Yeah, right, like that that's the 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:08.160 wrestling interaction. They crave that, they want that. And this 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.560 was such a payoff in the same way that like 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.720 Jeff Hardy was such a payoff to the fans. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:14.920 This is such a payoff to the fans. 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.319 For believing in this dude, for buying his merch, for 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.320 getting behind his promos, getting behind his matches. And I 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.520 was just so happy to see this win. And Gunther's 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:26.120 the frigging man. Like all his matches just look brutal. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.920 By the way, almost all the matches that we saw 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.000 looked like real fights. I thought like they were, like, yo, 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:33.200 we're going hard today. 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.640 Tomorrow. We're gonna hurt, but we're going. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.720 Hard today because it was like beast Mode times ten 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.320 out there. But that match was so good. It was 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.000 a great way to open the show. And I friggin 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.640 loved jay Us, so I hope that you love this too. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.160 I don't know if you like Jay as much as 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:49.640 I do, but I love this match. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.120 Yeah, I mean, I will say, and this could be 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.920 just you know, this is just me speaking freely here. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.320 I feel like they did a terrible job of leading 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:01.640 up to this. I wasn't crazy excited for jay Usso 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.960 versus Gunther. I think that they could have given it 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:07.560 a lot more. Just that's my personal opinion. I also 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.280 am just not on the Jay usso as as the guy, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.040 like I'm not like, I don't see him as the 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.800 guy I love him with these talents. No shame on 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.679 Jay usso big big fan. But you know, you can't 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:24.280 just give yourself the Moniker main event Jay. I mean, also, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.160 you're opening, you're the opener. We made main event Jay 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:33.160 open the thing that open Jays So I wasn't crazy 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.559 into it, but the actual match opening up the thing. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:40.600 Everyone excited. There is there is a real buzz when 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:42.440 he came out, like as far as like, there's just 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.160 an energy that he brought. So it was a really 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.320 good way to start the show. And I didn't care 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.480 about the match till the match started, you know what 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:52.959 I'm saying, Like, usually you care leading all the way 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.920 up to WrestleMania, and then when I did, I didn't 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.400 care at all. But then when the match started, it 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:00.640 was a good match, and I actually really enjoyed it 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.720 when I was watching it, and I liked it, but 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.160 a little too little too late for me. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.520 I like when they look like fight scenes in movies, 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.360 and they had like a lot of parts in there 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.960 that look that looked like fight scenes, and that's that's 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:14.559 Those are my favorite types of matches. 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:16.040 What's next for Gunther? 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:16.640 Do you think? 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:17.720 You know? 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.400 Not everyone can be pushed at the same time, right, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.120 And I think now more than ever, these guys and 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.920 girls understand and know that. And there's less ego than 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.040 back in the old days, right when you could kind 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.520 of like hold hold Vince hostage at a pay per 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.600 view and say no, I want an extra hundred grand 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.400 or I'm not wrestling. Like those days are done. People's 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.360 egos have to be more in check and balance. Now, 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.520 I'm not saying everyone's is, but they they have to 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.880 be more tempered than what they once were. So I 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.280 think people understand and can do business much more easily 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.240 now than before. Although I'm sure there's still you know, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.600 issues out there, but this, this wasn't one of them. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.960 Gunther just that guy. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.280 I don't know what's next for him, but I don't care, 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:02.760 Like I'll watch he's super he's super good. And yeah 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.839 it's funny, like my great grandma was from Austria, right, 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.040 I don't know if Gunther's actually from Austria, if he's 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.360 just built there. Well, I have a family that's German 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.760 and Austria. My dad was half Puerto Rican, half German 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.960 Austrian and her name was Marie Prutzel and she was 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.800 a famous opera singer and her name is on the 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.800 opera house in wherever it is in Vienna, and I 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.600 went there when I was filming this movie that nobody 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:31.840 like called Wing Commander. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.160 Nobody liked it, and. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.720 We would rent these motorcycles, me and this other actor, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.480 this German dude named Jurgen Prac. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:40.640 Now he's got a. 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.800 Great name, Yeah, great freaking name, for sure, it'd be 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.960 a great wrestler name too. He goes, do you know 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.600 how to ride the motorcycle? And I was like, oh, yeah, dude, 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.040 and he was like, oh, you should come for a 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.440 ride with me. And so we would go on cruises 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.960 from Luxembourg all throughout like Europe and just like cruise 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:57.440 of the city. And I told him, I was like, Yo, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.800 my great grandma lives up here, or lives up here, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.920 formed up here. We should go check it out. And 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.240 we did, and her name was on the little plaque. Dude, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.600 I didn't have like a phone that took pictures back then, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.840 because this is the old days. I wish I would have. 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:10.640 I wish I would have. I didn't take a picture. 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.720 It just has to stay in my brain. But anyway, 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.040 shout out to Gunther. I want us to have time 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.680 to have talk about like the greatest WrestleMania match I've 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.320 seen and I don't know how long, and that was 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:26.040 seth Rollins versus Cmpunk versus Roman Reigns for the no 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:33.520 championship just for pride, respect, what else conquest. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:38.680 They were fighting for. Paul E. Haymone, that was the prize. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.080 They should have put him in a shark cage above 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:46.040 the ring like Dominic Mysterio. And we'll get into Dominic later, 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.720 I promise, because this podcast loved him first. But the 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.360 triple threat, all right, look, I don't know how to wrestle, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:58.200 and I don't know how to be an agent and go. 0:15:58.320 --> 0:16:00.720 You know what you should do around the tenth minute 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.760 is a flying Like I don't pretend to know any 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.360 that I never have this match, just the wrestling. If 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.840 there was no story, if Paul Hayman wasn't even in 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.360 the match, I was like, Yo, where are my kids 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:13.760 right now? 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:14.920 How are they not seeing this? 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:19.720 Like it was so good and every dude looked great, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.600 and every dude got the crap kicked out of him, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.120 and every dude made saves, and every dude took the 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.560 best shots from guys. I mean, Roman Reigns literally landed 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.360 on top of seth rollins outside the ring at one point, 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.680 and I was just like, oh my god, Like these 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.640 guys are just like fighting for real, and they like 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:40.600 each other and they're fighting for real. 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:42.440 It was so good. 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.200 And then you add the story of Paul Hayman and 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.760 you have to take this story way the heck back 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.880 all the way to Bloodline wise man Paul Hayman, or 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:53.720 you could say, Freddy, that's not true. You have to 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:56.200 take it back further than that, because the story started 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.320 with Cempunk and Paul Hayman at ECW and and the 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.760 whole video package that they put together, and you would 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.320 be right. But I'm just for sakes of this argument 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:11.120 just recent history. What he and Roman created was awesome. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.080 But he had to be the whipping boy, right, like 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:17.159 he has to play the sucker for Roman. He has 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.360 to play the bitch, so to speak, and that sucks, right, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.280 Like you don't want that, and he's had to take 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.639 that weight for years of being Romans like Lackey instead 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.120 of being an advocate like he was for brock Lesner. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:33.560 So you get the double betrayal, right, because like Siamponky 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.040 tells you why you made me shoes, which is such 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.600 a great line that only Paul Hayman could deliver, you 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.000 made me shoes, And he doesn't need a writer. He's 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.000 one of those guys like like Sina, they can kind 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.440 of write for their own promo and you're gonna be like, yeah, 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.560 that's better than whatever. And the fact that he cut 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.160 that in the middle of the ring for the television 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.920 audience to hear at home, like really sends that home. 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.240 You made me choes like best line of the night, 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.800 better than anything. Michael Cole cutting. Michael Cole cuts great lines, 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.360 and he punches, he punches Sea I'm punk. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:04.840 In the balls. 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.119 And then Roman has a great moment where he's like 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:09.240 almost crying. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.000 Like my man, the wise Man is back, holy shit. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.600 And he gets up and Paul Hayman hands in the 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:16.320 chair and he's like. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.359 Remember what Seth Rollins fucking did to you back in 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:21.600 the day when you guys are in the shield. Now 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:24.000 you're gonna fucking do it to him, fucking do it 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.119 right now. In Roman rains is like, yeah, I am 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.240 gonna do it here. Back up, Paul Hayman. Let me 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.080 put you behind me where you're safe. And Paul Hayman's like, yeah, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:33.240 put me behind you were safe. He set up a 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.800 bitch what pa pow and hit him with to all 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.280 you can from Street Fighter Too and got him in the. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.160 Balls, got in the Crown jewels. 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.160 He did get him into jewels, and then he goes 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:46.000 to Seth Rollins and who he owed the favor to, 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.040 but it felt like much more than a favor. It 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.200 felt like, no, this is the direction the company's moving in, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.080 and I'm going back to being an advocate. I'm not 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.960 your best friend and I'm not your wise man. I'm 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.960 a fucking player in the wrestling business and this guy's 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.359 going to be the top player and I'm rolling with him. 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:08.120 And it was such a great He's so smart at 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.560 getting himself over without taking away from the talent that 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.119 he's trying to help put over. And I don't know 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:17.800 anybody in my lifetime that's done it better than him. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.840 Like you could say Bobby the Brain was as good, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.359 but I wouldn't say he was better. And for my money, 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.560 Paul Hayman was better at it than Bobby. And I 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.359