1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:01,240 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. 2 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to season five of The Freddy and Jeffrey Show. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: Wrestling with Friends is back. It's not the Freddie and 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Show. And we don't have any jingle there, like, yeah, look, 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: I got a raise, so I paid for a new 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: jingle and that's where all the money went. 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 3: And now your main event introducing the hosts are Wrestling 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: Win Freddy chefde and Freddy Friends tune. 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. Thanks for supporting us for five years now. 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: We really really appreciate that this weekend. Last weekend was 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: WrestleMania weekend. 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 4: We get two nights of it now and half for 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 4: a few years now. I think three. Is this the 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 4: third year they've done it like that? 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're go ahead SummerSlam two nights, is what 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm hearing. Do you think that's a good idea. 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: I don't think More wrestling is a bad thing, And 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: they're in a position where they can afford to make mistakes, 19 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 2: so even if it is a mistake, they just won't 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: do it again, and they're not gonna go out of business, 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: so they can afford to experiment and try things out, 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: which is always good for wrestling. But Jeff, We're gonna 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: talk about the whole show, but before we do, you 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: got to be in Las Vegas, the city where I 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: have many friends, where I have some family, A lot 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 2: of people that I love are in Las Vegas, and 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: I wanted to be there. I almost went with an 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: actor buddy of mine, but he wasn't able to go, 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: and my wife booked a movie, so I have to 30 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: stay and watch the kids while she goes and kicks 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: ass on that. And I can't even say it yet 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: because it's not announced yet, but yeah, you got to 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: be on our man on the scene, our man in 34 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: the streets, and you got to not just be there, 35 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: but you got to freaking hang out too, and just 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: be a dude with other dudes that happen to wrestle 37 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: in a professional ring. So tell everybody about your experience, 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: and I don't care how long it takes. 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'll keep it short. Night one and Night 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: two wrestling in Las Vegas is was pretty awesome. Wrestling 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: fans are great. I'm just like, every time I go 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: to one of those things, I'm just like, I love 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: wrestling fans so much, just like, even when they're doing 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: something that makes me like roll my eyes and chuckle 45 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: like it's constant. Like it's just constant. I'm like, I 46 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: love these people. It's such a funny fan base and 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: a great fan base and a loyal fan base, and 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: they'll buy everything and anything like they're just the greatest fans. 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: And I had a great time just being a fan. 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: Night one, I was like eight rows back when and 51 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: when you're not on the floor, eight roses kind of far, 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: so it was kind of hard to see. And I 53 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: always go like, let's say you guys didn't get a 54 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: chance to go to WrestleMania. Let's say like you weren't 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: one of the sixty three thousand people in attendance. If 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: those numbers are real, you did it right. You know 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: you watched it on pay per view or you watched 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: it on Peacock Like that that guts. I think that's 59 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: the way to do it, because I want to hear 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: Michael Cole, I want to hear hear Pat McAfee, I 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: want to hear way Beart, And so you know, when 62 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: you're there, you don't get the commentary. You just hear 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: the real loud Matt slamming, and you get to brag 64 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: that you're there and you do get to be with 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: the other great wrestling fans. But I think you did 66 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: it right if you stay at home. Night one I 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: was like in Row eight, but not on the floor, 68 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: but just in the one hundred level. And then a 69 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: night two I was in Stone called Steve Austin's suite. 70 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: Now another part you might go, well, that's fun, right, Jeff, 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: the suite. But here's the problem with wrestling or like 72 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: WWE or TKO or whoever's in charge. When me and 73 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: you went to WrestleMania, Freddy and we had a suite, 74 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: and when we when I went to Steve Austin's suite 75 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: on night two, WW for some reason won't let them 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: put the feed of the of the program in into 77 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: any of the monitors. So if you get a suite 78 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: for a sporting event, you have all these TVs also 79 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: playing the thing, but wrestling doesn't do that. So when 80 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: you go wait in line for a hot dog or 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: a sandwich or a pizza, you don't even get to 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: see the action of what's going on because wrestling doesn't 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: have it on any of the TVs. So that's also 84 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: terrible in my opinion. So if you stayed home and 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: watched it for on Peacock. You did it right. You 86 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: did the right thing this. I was at both nights 87 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: of WrestleMania, and I still came home and watched all 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: the matches on my iPath because I wanted to hear 89 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: the commentary. I wanted those great shots that wrestling does. 90 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: I wanted to see all the things I missed because 91 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: someone's talking to me or people are making jokes around me. 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: So if you could do both experiences like I did, 93 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: I would recommend that. But I think you did it 94 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: right if you watched it on Peacock. 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: The commentary was so great and all three men were 96 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: Wade Barrett, Pat McAfee and Michael Cole did such a 97 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: great job in helping tell the stories that the wrestlers 98 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: were trying to tell in there. I love commentary so much, 99 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: whether it's the UFC, regardless of the crew they put together. 100 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: I really enjoy all the all the different crews they 101 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 2: have there. When it's WWE, I love it. Sometimes in 102 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: WW they get it wrong right, like they've done the 103 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: Mike Adamleys of the world when he came in and 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: like didn't know people's names and didn't know the moves. 105 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 4: Tough, and it was It was tough. 106 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: I was the guy that had to basically fire him 107 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: or let him know he was getting read when I 108 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: worked there. Yeah, I had to give him the segment 109 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: where he slapped Randy across the face and he goes, well, 110 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: wait a minute, if I strike a wrestler, I would 111 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: wouldn't I be like fired? And I was like, oh, well, yeah, 112 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm just the guy bringing you the news. 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're also allowed to flirt with anyone at work 114 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: you want now, because you're not going to be here tomorrow, 115 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: so go ahead and just break all the rule. 116 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 4: No. 117 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: I did not advise him to do that, but yeah, man, 118 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: the commentary was phenomenal. They've got such a great thing 119 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: going with McAfee and Michael Cole, and their chemistry and 120 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: their kind of mutual respect and love for one another 121 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: is so evident, and they just let it flow. And 122 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: this was never This was never a thing when I 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: worked there, Jeff, It just didn't. Vince had handcuffs on people, 124 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: and Vince sometimes he had good notes too, but with commentary, 125 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: they were handcuffed and they had to just call the 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: match and use only the words that he allows them 127 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: to use. As far as describing the match and the 128 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 2: moves and the wrestlers that are in the ring, and 129 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: on top of that, he would then tell them what 130 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: to say on there, and you could just feel how 131 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: tight it was. So often and people go, Michael Cole 132 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: sucks and talk trash. Michael Cole doesn't suck. He didn't, 133 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: then he doesn't now. But now to see with Triple 134 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 2: H back there and you can really kind of just 135 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: tell they're doing their thing like it is awesome and 136 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: the commentary is them fantastic? Yeah, dude, yes, let them cook. 137 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: So they did a great job. But we're not here 138 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: just to talk about the commentators. We're here to talk 139 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: about professional wrestling, major news, Jeff. It means one less 140 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: indie promotion available to purchase. 141 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: But that's okay. 142 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Yes, de has purchased or acquired Triple A Luta Libre. 143 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: They're going to do a great job with it. They've 144 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: got Vi Kingo, who is the friggin' man. Yeah, they're 145 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: gonna crush. They've got a lot. 146 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: To explain to our listeners and to your co host, 147 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Jeff Dye. What does it mean that they've bought this? 148 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Does that mean Triple A which I'm a member, by 149 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: the way, shout out to that. Does that mean that 150 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: they're that's not going to be the name anymore? And 151 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: now those people are just in WWE or like what 152 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: like what does it mean? 153 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: So legally they could change it if they wanted to. 154 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: I don't believe they will. I think they'll keep it 155 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: under the same banner the way they kind of let 156 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: evolve standard It's banner with their TV deal on tob 157 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: and well, this one of. 158 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: Triple A will probably go to eventually. I don't know. 159 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: They'll probably just pull from it and allow it to 160 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: be a farm system, like a Ring of Honor type thing. 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: But they have some really interesting characters in Triple A, 162 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: much more like old school Carnie type characters, like Origin 163 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: of Wrestling. It's great for that company, for Dorian and 164 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: all of them down there. I wish them nothing but 165 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: but tons of success, and their wrestlers are going to 166 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to get seen all over the freaking 167 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: world now on a grand scale. And like I said, 168 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: they got some interesting characters. I was taking a peek 169 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: at them last year when I had aspirations of doing this, 170 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: and they've got a really cool roster man, and they're 171 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: they're funky, and it's really old school and and they've 172 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: got some some living legends right now. Like if you 173 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: haven't seen the King Goo wrestle, go check out. He 174 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: did some AEW matches and was phenomenal. But check out 175 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: his triple A stuff. It's it's freaking If you like 176 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: lucha libre, it's next level. 177 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: And his look is gangster. 178 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: He looks like one of the Vikings from the Viking Show, 179 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: but a little one because he's a little dude who 180 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: can flip all over the place. 181 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: If you know me, you know that I love Mexican wrestling. Yeah, 182 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: that's like my favorite thing. There's the Big Five, right, 183 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what the big four of the Big 184 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: five wrestling is America, Pacific, Islanders, Hawaii, Japan because that's 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: a huge part of wrestling, the Canadians, and then there's Mexico. 186 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: And in Mexico is by far my favorite style of wrestling. 187 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Our producer said that it's probably there's a chance it 188 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: could be rebranded as like NXT Mexico, which I would 189 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: be such a fan of. But any more luchadors in WB, 190 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: I say, sign them all, sign them all up. 191 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: Let's get in some matches. 192 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: Night one World Heavyweight Championship Goonther the Champ versus jay 193 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 2: Uso the Challenger. A long time ago, over a year ago, 194 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: I was on I think it was Bully Ray's podcast 195 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: maybe what was that called Busted Open Radio, and they 196 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: were asking me of the like the upcoming next gen 197 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: who I thought was gonna be like the next star, 198 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: and I said jay Uso. And this was still like 199 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: when he was in the Bloodline and you and I 200 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: were talking about his acting, and I thought his acting 201 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: was getting really good, and the way he was sort 202 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: of having a hard time choosing between what was right 203 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: and wrong and his own morality within the morality of 204 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: the Bloodline, I thought was super interesting. And to see 205 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: him sort of go from that to literally changing the 206 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: what chant to a yeat chant and making a negative 207 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: thing a positive thing. I don't know how he did it. 208 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if he knows how he did it, 209 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: but he fucking did it. And that's a powerful thing 210 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: to have that kind of manipulation over an entire crowd, 211 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: and it's all come to fruition. He is the champ, 212 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: he gets the singles run, the crowd loves his promos. 213 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 2: They love being a part of the show. That's what 214 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 2: wrestling fans love. They love being a part of the 215 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: show that they can actually affect what's going on. That's 216 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: a powerful thing. It doesn't exist in Broadway as much, right, 217 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: Like you're expected to sort of sit there, shut up 218 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: and enjoy the show, right, But in wrestling, it's a 219 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: different experience. It's like going to the Rocky Horror Picture 220 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: Show and throwing toast at the screen when they say 221 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: a toast. Or now at the Minecraft movie where the 222 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: kids are going bananas. Yeah, right, like that that's the 223 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: wrestling interaction. They crave that, they want that. And this 224 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: was such a payoff in the same way that like 225 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: Jeff Hardy was such a payoff to the fans. 226 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: This is such a payoff to the fans. 227 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: For believing in this dude, for buying his merch, for 228 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: getting behind his promos, getting behind his matches. And I 229 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: was just so happy to see this win. And Gunther's 230 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: the frigging man. Like all his matches just look brutal. 231 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: By the way, almost all the matches that we saw 232 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: looked like real fights. I thought like they were, like, yo, 233 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: we're going hard today. 234 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: Tomorrow. We're gonna hurt, but we're going. 235 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: Hard today because it was like beast Mode times ten 236 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: out there. But that match was so good. It was 237 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: a great way to open the show. And I friggin 238 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: loved jay Us, so I hope that you love this too. 239 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if you like Jay as much as 240 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: I do, but I love this match. 241 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I will say, and this could be 242 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: just you know, this is just me speaking freely here. 243 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: I feel like they did a terrible job of leading 244 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: up to this. I wasn't crazy excited for jay Usso 245 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: versus Gunther. I think that they could have given it 246 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: a lot more. Just that's my personal opinion. I also 247 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: am just not on the Jay usso as as the guy, 248 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: like I'm not like, I don't see him as the 249 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: guy I love him with these talents. No shame on 250 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: Jay usso big big fan. But you know, you can't 251 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: just give yourself the Moniker main event Jay. I mean, also, 252 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: you're opening, you're the opener. We made main event Jay 253 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: open the thing that open Jays So I wasn't crazy 254 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: into it, but the actual match opening up the thing. 255 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: Everyone excited. There is there is a real buzz when 256 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: he came out, like as far as like, there's just 257 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: an energy that he brought. So it was a really 258 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: good way to start the show. And I didn't care 259 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: about the match till the match started, you know what 260 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, usually you care leading all the way 261 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: up to WrestleMania, and then when I did, I didn't 262 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: care at all. But then when the match started, it 263 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: was a good match, and I actually really enjoyed it 264 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: when I was watching it, and I liked it, but 265 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: a little too little too late for me. 266 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: I like when they look like fight scenes in movies, 267 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: and they had like a lot of parts in there 268 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: that look that looked like fight scenes, and that's that's 269 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: Those are my favorite types of matches. 270 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: What's next for Gunther? 271 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: Do you think? 272 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 5: You know? 273 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: Not everyone can be pushed at the same time, right, 274 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: And I think now more than ever, these guys and 275 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: girls understand and know that. And there's less ego than 276 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: back in the old days, right when you could kind 277 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: of like hold hold Vince hostage at a pay per 278 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: view and say no, I want an extra hundred grand 279 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: or I'm not wrestling. Like those days are done. People's 280 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: egos have to be more in check and balance. Now, 281 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: I'm not saying everyone's is, but they they have to 282 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: be more tempered than what they once were. So I 283 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: think people understand and can do business much more easily 284 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: now than before. Although I'm sure there's still you know, 285 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: issues out there, but this, this wasn't one of them. 286 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 4: Gunther just that guy. 287 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what's next for him, but I don't care, 288 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: Like I'll watch he's super he's super good. And yeah 289 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 2: it's funny, like my great grandma was from Austria, right, 290 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if Gunther's actually from Austria, if he's 291 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: just built there. Well, I have a family that's German 292 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: and Austria. My dad was half Puerto Rican, half German 293 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: Austrian and her name was Marie Prutzel and she was 294 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: a famous opera singer and her name is on the 295 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: opera house in wherever it is in Vienna, and I 296 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: went there when I was filming this movie that nobody 297 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: like called Wing Commander. 298 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 4: Nobody liked it, and. 299 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: We would rent these motorcycles, me and this other actor, 300 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: this German dude named Jurgen Prac. 301 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: Now he's got a. 302 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: Great name, Yeah, great freaking name, for sure, it'd be 303 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: a great wrestler name too. He goes, do you know 304 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: how to ride the motorcycle? And I was like, oh, yeah, dude, 305 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: and he was like, oh, you should come for a 306 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: ride with me. And so we would go on cruises 307 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: from Luxembourg all throughout like Europe and just like cruise 308 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: of the city. And I told him, I was like, Yo, 309 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: my great grandma lives up here, or lives up here, 310 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: formed up here. We should go check it out. And 311 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: we did, and her name was on the little plaque. Dude, 312 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 2: I didn't have like a phone that took pictures back then, 313 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 2: because this is the old days. I wish I would have. 314 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: I wish I would have. I didn't take a picture. 315 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: It just has to stay in my brain. But anyway, 316 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: shout out to Gunther. I want us to have time 317 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: to have talk about like the greatest WrestleMania match I've 318 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: seen and I don't know how long, and that was 319 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: seth Rollins versus Cmpunk versus Roman Reigns for the no 320 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: championship just for pride, respect, what else conquest. 321 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: They were fighting for. Paul E. Haymone, that was the prize. 322 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: They should have put him in a shark cage above 323 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: the ring like Dominic Mysterio. And we'll get into Dominic later, 324 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: I promise, because this podcast loved him first. But the 325 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: triple threat, all right, look, I don't know how to wrestle, 326 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: and I don't know how to be an agent and go. 327 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: You know what you should do around the tenth minute 328 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: is a flying Like I don't pretend to know any 329 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: that I never have this match, just the wrestling. If 330 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: there was no story, if Paul Hayman wasn't even in 331 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: the match, I was like, Yo, where are my kids 332 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: right now? 333 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: How are they not seeing this? 334 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: Like it was so good and every dude looked great, 335 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: and every dude got the crap kicked out of him, 336 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: and every dude made saves, and every dude took the 337 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: best shots from guys. I mean, Roman Reigns literally landed 338 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: on top of seth rollins outside the ring at one point, 339 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: and I was just like, oh my god, Like these 340 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: guys are just like fighting for real, and they like 341 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: each other and they're fighting for real. 342 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 4: It was so good. 343 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: And then you add the story of Paul Hayman and 344 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: you have to take this story way the heck back 345 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: all the way to Bloodline wise man Paul Hayman, or 346 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: you could say, Freddy, that's not true. You have to 347 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: take it back further than that, because the story started 348 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: with Cempunk and Paul Hayman at ECW and and the 349 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 2: whole video package that they put together, and you would 350 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: be right. But I'm just for sakes of this argument 351 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: just recent history. What he and Roman created was awesome. 352 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: But he had to be the whipping boy, right, like 353 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: he has to play the sucker for Roman. He has 354 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: to play the bitch, so to speak, and that sucks, right, 355 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: Like you don't want that, and he's had to take 356 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: that weight for years of being Romans like Lackey instead 357 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: of being an advocate like he was for brock Lesner. 358 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: So you get the double betrayal, right, because like Siamponky 359 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: tells you why you made me shoes, which is such 360 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: a great line that only Paul Hayman could deliver, you 361 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: made me shoes, And he doesn't need a writer. He's 362 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: one of those guys like like Sina, they can kind 363 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: of write for their own promo and you're gonna be like, yeah, 364 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 2: that's better than whatever. And the fact that he cut 365 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 2: that in the middle of the ring for the television 366 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: audience to hear at home, like really sends that home. 367 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: You made me choes like best line of the night, 368 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: better than anything. Michael Cole cutting. Michael Cole cuts great lines, 369 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: and he punches, he punches Sea I'm punk. 370 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: In the balls. 371 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: And then Roman has a great moment where he's like 372 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 2: almost crying. 373 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 4: Like my man, the wise Man is back, holy shit. 374 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: And he gets up and Paul Hayman hands in the 375 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: chair and he's like. 376 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 5: Remember what Seth Rollins fucking did to you back in 377 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: the day when you guys are in the shield. Now 378 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: you're gonna fucking do it to him, fucking do it 379 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 5: right now. In Roman rains is like, yeah, I am 380 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 5: gonna do it here. Back up, Paul Hayman. Let me 381 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 5: put you behind me where you're safe. And Paul Hayman's like, yeah, 382 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 5: put me behind you were safe. He set up a 383 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: bitch what pa pow and hit him with to all 384 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 5: you can from Street Fighter Too and got him in the. 385 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: Balls, got in the Crown jewels. 386 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: He did get him into jewels, and then he goes 387 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: to Seth Rollins and who he owed the favor to, 388 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: but it felt like much more than a favor. It 389 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: felt like, no, this is the direction the company's moving in, 390 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: and I'm going back to being an advocate. I'm not 391 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 2: your best friend and I'm not your wise man. I'm 392 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: a fucking player in the wrestling business and this guy's 393 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: going to be the top player and I'm rolling with him. 394 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: And it was such a great He's so smart at 395 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 2: getting himself over without taking away from the talent that 396 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: he's trying to help put over. And I don't know 397 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: anybody in my lifetime that's done it better than him. 398 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: Like you could say Bobby the Brain was as good, 399 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't say he was better. And for my money, 400 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 2: Paul Hayman was better at it than Bobby. And I 401 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: love Bobby Heenan, but Paul Hayman was just so sick 402 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: with it and it was so perfect, and the commentators 403 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: were shitting on him the whole match man and just 404 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: make it, letting him have it, and he could hear 405 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: him and he's reacting to it. You just feel the 406 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: weight of the world on his shoulders. And then he 407 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: gets the double middle finger, which was just awesome. 408 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: And I love this. 409 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I can't think of a better match. 410 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: And he was a big reason for it being so 411 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: extra special. I know this is your favorite match of 412 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: the whole weekend, and I'm crazy if I'm wrong. 413 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: Besides El Grande Americano, this was my favorite match, so 414 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: second favorite match. What a fun position to put Paul 415 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: Hayman in as far as he has some storyline with 416 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: each member involved in a three way match that is, 417 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember ever seeing a match in 418 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: this way where like they all have this loyalty to 419 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: this guy, but he has kind of these other loyalties. 420 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: So I love that. I love that you said that 421 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: he's got the weight of the world on his shoulders. 422 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. You could feel like, man, 423 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: he's in such an icky position, you know, like he 424 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,479 Speaker 1: can't he can't be all what I was hoping. What 425 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: I was hoping he would do was low blow seth 426 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: rawlins after he low blowed them, so low blow each 427 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: all three and then brock Lessener's music hits and I 428 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: and He's and like now he's like I'm with rock Gosh. 429 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: I was like, just I know, yeah, I I know 430 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: that that's all k fabe and and whatever, like in 431 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: the real world of all the bad things that are 432 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: happening in real life, that that's never a possibility or 433 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to be a possibility. But I was 434 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: like that had been so good, or maybe he low 435 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: blows Punk, he low blows Roman, then he low brows 436 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: Seth and he just leaves and we're all like that 437 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: was strange. He has loyalty to nobody's going in the 438 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: business for himself, and then they moved him to like 439 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: the women's division where he can help out those ladies 440 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: and make the make all the women's they're going to 441 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: pick a girl to represent that. He just would love. 442 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: For him to a female wrestler, right because he would 443 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: crush that. 444 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: I think Bobby Heenan isn't even in the same universe 445 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: as Paul Hammon, really, and that is not a slander 446 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: on Bobby Heenan, because I think there isn't anybody in 447 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Paul Hayman's universe. I think his mic work, pound for pound, 448 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: is better than any wrestler we've ever seen, better than 449 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: any manager we've ever seen, better than any politician we've 450 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: ever seen. I've never heard anyone be able to pause 451 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: the timing. I mean, he is like his sensibilities for 452 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: that are off the charts. He's one of a kind. 453 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: And also what a great story he's had, going from 454 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: competing against Vince to working with Vince to now seceding 455 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: and outlasting Vince as he's there should be a second 456 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: hall of Fame for guys like Paul Hayman. 457 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: All Right, dude, Tiffany Stratton, she earned her stripes at WrestleMania, 458 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 2: and I don't mean because she won, but she bled 459 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 2: for her art. And it always felt like to me 460 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: after the Attitude era, once a wrestler gets cut and 461 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: you see real blood coming out of their mouth or 462 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: real blood coming out of their head, the crowd kind 463 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: of goes, hey, respect and they kind of give you 464 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: that nod, right, and until you've bled, they can love you, 465 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: but they don't really give you that like, holy shit 466 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: it And that's. 467 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: Why we respect death matches so much. You go, wow, 468 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: every one of these guys is bleeding for that bro. 469 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: That's literally like blood, sweat and tears. But in the 470 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: actually all they got is blood. But she bled, she 471 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: took some some. This was another one that looked like 472 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: a real fight, man, Like some of the punches looked 473 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: so good, and when they're beating on each other's backs. 474 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 4: I was just like, you know what, that would. 475 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: Hurt so bad if we want to believe, Yeah, it 476 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: might be because it might be real. 477 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: You know they were talking ship. 478 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were talking ship and their promos back and forth. 479 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: So it felt good. It felt real. Charlotte's WrestleMania matches 480 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: always kind of feel real, like the one with Becky did, 481 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: the one with Rhea did. This one totally did. And 482 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: we said on this podcast along time, well we everyone 483 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: kind of knew that she had a rocket ship strapped 484 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: to her back. So now this now she's a made woman, 485 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 2: and now it's gonna be sink or swim. And the 486 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: WW does this a lot with with young new talent. 487 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: They kind of feed you to the fish and they 488 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: see if you're a shark or if you're one of 489 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: the fish that's going to get eaten by the next 490 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: potential shark. And they're going to give her a big 491 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: swing here and see if she can handle the pressures, 492 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: the weight, the matches and the promos that are necessary 493 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: to be the champion. And time will tell you know, 494 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 2: she's super young, so she's got a lot of not well, 495 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: I don't know how much time she has. Hopefully they're 496 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 2: patient and they give her time to learn and develop 497 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: her craft. I try to equivalent wrestlers evolving to Jalen 498 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: Rose in commentary, like when he first started on ESPN, 499 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: he was not he didn't have it. It just you 500 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 2: could see that something was there, but it just it 501 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: was kind of all over the place. And he went 502 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 2: from being one of their weaker options to one of 503 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: their stronger, if not one of their strongest options, in 504 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: the time frame of about a year and a half 505 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: two years. And that type of growth is you can 506 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: kind of see it happening on a week to week basis, 507 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 2: and I think we'll start I have to look now 508 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: as she's a champ to see the kind of growth 509 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 2: and developments that that's there. You can You're only going 510 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 2: to be as good as your writers, right, Like they 511 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: have to write for her and to her strengths and 512 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 2: keep it in the verbiage that she's going to use. 513 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: If they're able to pull it off, then they've got 514 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: physically the kind of champ that I think they're looking for. 515 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: And not even though she is like the Barbie Doll, 516 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: she's like a buff Barbie Doll kind of so it's 517 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: kind of like a more modern champion as opposed to 518 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: some of the smaller ones that they've had in the past. 519 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 4: What did you think. 520 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say they disrespected Tiffany Stratton. You know, 521 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: she's she's the female main event of Night one of WrestleMania, 522 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: and they introduced her first. 523 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: They do that from time to time. 524 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. I didn't like the idea. And 525 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: Charlotte comes up in some sort of rolls Royce and 526 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: gets like this crazy pyro and all this different stuff. 527 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, so so when it came to the match, 528 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: it was it was good and I was very invested 529 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: in it. Once again, once they got in the ring, 530 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: it kind of felt like the Jay Ussa thing. So 531 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: it was fine. I like it. My prediction is this 532 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: is a Wrestling with Freddie prediction. I think there's going 533 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: to be a time on this podcast where we're gonna 534 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: say whoa, Jeff, You're right, they are gonna just bring 535 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: in Mariah May to replace Tiffany Stratton's universe of where 536 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: I think Mariah May eventually comes over to WWE and 537 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: they phase out this Tiffany Stratton push. 538 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: You think she'll be the new face. 539 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 2: She can she can certainly talk when written well for, 540 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: and she wrestles like the Japanese wrestlers, which is exactly 541 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 2: stiff and tough, so fans like her a lot. 542 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: She's so easy to get behind, like she's like she 543 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: just like Maria May is like a very very in 544 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, just a more sharp in every single wrestling 545 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: category than Tiffany Stritten. 546 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 4: My prediction, very interesting, sir. 547 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: All right, all right, Jacob Fatu is the new United 548 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: States Champion. I know fans of La Night are like, 549 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 2: what now, what now? I'll say this, I said it earlier, 550 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: I'll say it again. Not everyone can get pushed at 551 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: the same time. La Night's super over. Losing the title 552 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: isn't gonna stop one person from going yeah. When he 553 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: goes oh hey, like, everyone's still gonna cheer. He's he's 554 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: bigger than a belt, so he's he's way over. 555 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 4: And it was an earned overship. 556 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't I'm forced upon the WWE you will like me, 557 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: you will like me that he earned it the old 558 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: fashioned way, and so that's not going anywhere. So La 559 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: and I fans fret not, do not worry. He'll have 560 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: plenty of cool storylines. He's gonna still cut his cool promos, 561 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 2: He's still gonna drop the sweet elbow. 562 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 4: Everything's gonna be cool. 563 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: The BFT still exists and will be hit, and he'll 564 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: still win, and eventually he'll be in another title picture, 565 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: just not right now. But Freddy's getting older. He's look 566 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: at the freaking shape that dude's in. He's gonna be fine. 567 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: This is not the UFC. He doesn't have to be 568 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: twenty six years old and in the prime of his life. 569 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: It's all it's all good. But Jacob Fatu is the friggin' man. 570 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's over too. I mean the mask is number 571 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: two guys that are just super over, so it's not 572 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: really that shocking. 573 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: And his mic work like, look, he's not Marlon Brando, 574 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: but he stays true to his style and his style's 575 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: kind of cool. 576 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: Man like. 577 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: I dig Jacob fut too, Yeah, I dig him a 578 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: lot man. So, yeah, so that match happened and it 579 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: was awesome. 580 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: Jacob Putt, I have a question for you and Alex, 581 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: our producer, and for the Federation. So if there's an 582 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: answer to this, I'd like you to leave it for us, 583 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: comment or send it to us or tweet it or 584 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: whatever you do. And if there isn't an answer, you 585 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: can just say I agree, Jeff, because that sucks. Jacob 586 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 1: fuck To comes out of gorilla as they call it 587 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: in our industry, right, and he's got this amazing mask. 588 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: He's got this really cool mask. Then he takes the 589 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: mask off right at the top of this nine hundred 590 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: mile ramp and then goes down the ramp, then goes 591 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,719 Speaker 1: into the ring, does the thing to the hardcam without 592 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: the cool mask that he just wore. And then but 593 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: my question is why is this always the case? Andrade 594 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: wears this cool mask out but then takes it off 595 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: at the top of the ramp and then goes down 596 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: The Bludgeon brothers take their masks off at the top 597 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: of the ramp. Like even Cody Rhoades wore this like 598 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: Iron Man kind of skull. He took it off at 599 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: the top of the ramp. Like, what are we doing. 600 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: We've got all these great cool masks, wear them into 601 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: the ring. I get, don't wrestle with it. You don't 602 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: have to wrestle with the mask on, but like, why 603 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: are we leaving them at the top of the ramp? 604 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: I want to see the mask let's do it to 605 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: the hardcam. Wear it in the ring. You you paid 606 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: for it. Wrestlers, let's see the mask. 607 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: In Jeff's defense, we are both huge masks. Love masks. 608 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: We love them, all right. I just gave a bunch 609 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 2: away because I ran out of room. Not wrestling masks. 610 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: Don't worry some of the other ones, like the superhero mask, 611 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: the ones you wouldn't care about. We're big mask dudes. 612 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: We really like masks. I don't like when the mask 613 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: comes off either. But I never even thought of that 614 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: until you said it, and then I was like, oh yeah. 615 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: I was like, Andria takes this mask off too early, too, 616 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: before you even said it. 617 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: And then you're like, and Andrde, why are you taking 618 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 4: your mask? 619 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: I want to get a good look at the mask, 620 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: and also like it kind of like I don't know, 621 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: you have a perfect opportunity when you're in the ring 622 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: to like kind of sell it to the hardcam. 623 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then take it off and present your pretty face. 624 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: And if someone is going to argue Jeff, no, that's 625 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: not true. They some people do wear it to the ring. 626 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: You're just playing too many video games because the developers 627 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: don't want to have to to have him take his mask. 628 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: Trust me, I did my homework on this, and they're 629 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: all leaving their mask at the top of the ramp. 630 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 4: All right. 631 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: Speaking of mask men, let's get to your favorite match 632 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: of the night. El Grande Americano, the Greatest, the greatest 633 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: luch adorable times right, us versus versus Ray Phoenix, who 634 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: was subbing in for an injured Raimi Stadio. Jeff, We're 635 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: getting to watch the greatest Lucidor that's ever lived, in 636 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: the prime of his career with one of the most 637 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: jacked bodies of Lucidor has ever had. He's willing to cheat, 638 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: which is awesome. He puts steel plates in his head 639 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: and then does a flying headbut off the top rope, 640 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: which is cheat. You ain't trying, baby, I love cheating, bro, 641 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: I'm with it, man, cheaters in wrestling rule. Eddie was 642 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 2: the best for that. So he's the cheats. He's got 643 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 2: the moves, he's got the grassers. 644 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: To make a Mariachi band wear American Mexican wrestling masks 645 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: is the funniest thing I've ever. 646 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 2: Seen, and such a heeled move of all heel moves, 647 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: and he's got the commentary team fully behind this as 648 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: far as helping push the story together. They call him 649 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: El Grande, they call him a medicano. Sometimes they just 650 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: call him Jack Gable. They'll give a fuck, and they 651 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: have so much fun with it. You can see them 652 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: all enjoying it. It's such a great gimmick. I don't 653 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: know who came up with it, but shout out to 654 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: the creative team if it was them, If it was Chad, 655 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 2: it was like, Yo, I got an idea. Shout out 656 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: to Chad, if it was both of them. You guys 657 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: are doing great stuff. And I still think Chad Gable 658 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: is one of the most underrated dudes. Yeah, he's not undervalue. 659 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: They paid him to stay there. His contract was up 660 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: and they paid us, so he's not undervalue. WW knows 661 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: what they have with him, but he's so underrated, and 662 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: I think he's so good and talented, and he's one 663 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: of your favorite dudes. So please wax poetic about this 664 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: match and your love of Elkoronde Americano. 665 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: I will. I don't know if I've ever said this 666 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: on this podcast before, but I have an anecdote that 667 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: when things get so good they're not yours anymore, they 668 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: become the worlds right, somebody invented pizza, whether it was 669 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: in New York or Italy, no one cares anymore because 670 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: pizza is just world food now, right, Oh, a hamburger, 671 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: that's American. Shut up. It is such a good idea 672 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: that now it's world food. You can have a burger 673 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world because it's that good. Sushi is 674 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: so good, we don't go oh as a Japan it's 675 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: world food. Things just become so good that they're for 676 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: the world now. Lucha door wrestling, in my opinion, has 677 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: always been the most supeller and the best. I am 678 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: a huge fan of it and with a very big 679 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: tip of the hat and respect to Mexican culture and 680 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: the luchidor culture. But that don't mean that we don't 681 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: love the luchadors in America, my favorite country in the world. 682 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: So to just spin a story that you're the American 683 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: luchador is so beautiful. I kind of wish that it 684 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a negative thing that we were like booing America 685 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: for doing it. Yeah, I would love it's wrestling. 686 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: I think it is people cheering too. 687 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: I think there's people that are doing the a's a 688 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: heel I'm booing thing and there's people that are like, nah, 689 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: fuck that. 690 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 4: I love it. 691 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: Because it's it's naughty and it's it's like it is. 692 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: But I would love to maybe someday in the future 693 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: see an American luchador who's just an American who loves 694 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: being a luchador, who loves Luca wrestling, who loves the mask, 695 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: who loves the culture like a like a Ricochet wearing 696 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: like you know, like who can do all the luchador 697 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: things as a respect to it. But he's like, I'm American. 698 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: I would love to see that. That's my point. But 699 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: loving this story and the story is so good, folks 700 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: that it's it's going past WrestleMania. They didn't tie up 701 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: that story, they didn't demask him to It's Chad Gable. 702 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: They said, no, no, no, this story is not ending here. 703 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep this cooking. And so it was really 704 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: great way to do it. Unfortunate the Ray Masterio got injured, 705 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: but we still got to see Ray Phoenix, which was 706 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: awesome and awesome. He was just literally lights out and 707 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: I think that that match was by far one of 708 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: the highlights for me. I also got to be like 709 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: a little troll in the audience. I kept chanting USA, 710 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: and we were like, we were like, this guy, he 711 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: doesn't Anyways, I loved it and I'm a big fan 712 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: of the story. 713 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: All Right, you guys, please don't forget to subscribe to 714 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: this podcast, share and give us those five star ratings. 715 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 4: Our bosses like that stuff. 716 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: Make sure you follow the show on our official Instagram account, 717 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: Wrestling with Freddy and from the team here at Wrestling 718 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: with Freddie. We'll see you Thursday on unsanctioned Thursdays on 719 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: behalf of Jeff Dye, our man in the field, I'm 720 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 2: Freddie Prince Junior, your man in the sheets. 721 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: What whoa? And then we'll see you guys Thursday. A 722 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 4: piece