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Speaker 1: of the NBA. Welcome back to this episode, Devoy Joe.
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Speaker 2: How you're doing.
Speaker 3: Today, Joe doing great, brother Deebo.
Speaker 2: Another beautiful day that the Lord has made.
Speaker 3: I am going to rejoice and be glad in it
Speaker 3: with my good brother.
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, sir, I am doing extremely well. Another day,
Speaker 1: blessed to be here. I'm on this podcast. Yes, my
Speaker 1: brother showing love, you know, love, receiving love. You know love,
Speaker 1: all love, all love, Joe, all love, all love.
Speaker 2: Brother. Look here.
Speaker 1: Later on we have a we have hottie and uncle
Speaker 1: coming on to rap with us.
Speaker 2: Talk a little bit.
Speaker 1: We'll go over some of the stuff we did in
Speaker 1: the gym and uh, a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2: Get to know him a little better, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna jump into right now is a
Speaker 1: little bit of Stiller information, Yes, sir information, let's pop off.
Speaker 3: That's I ain't gonna let me. That's a fire steal
Speaker 3: his hat you got on right there?
Speaker 2: My brother?
Speaker 3: The hell that hat that never seen it, never seen
Speaker 3: it before?
Speaker 2: Is that right there?
Speaker 3: That's that's the one on one that right there is
Speaker 3: that right there is who those you d bo?
Speaker 2: You coming through?
Speaker 1: What the hat you said you was that hat is
Speaker 1: very impressive. Joe with the shirt, Yeah, you did that.
Speaker 1: What I told you, man, My hat game is impeccable.
Speaker 2: Respectfully, respectful. Now this one. If you like this one, yes,
Speaker 2: I love that. I know. No, no, you love this one. Yes. Listen.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's a stronger word for love.
Speaker 1: You're just gonna be infatuated with you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a one on one two baby. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: we ain't gonna be on.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday. Right, I'm looking
Speaker 3: forward to So I'm looking forward to it because you've
Speaker 3: been stepping with the hats.
Speaker 2: You ain't lied about its stepping.
Speaker 3: Step step step, big step, big step up respectfully, respectfully.
Speaker 1: Joe, Still is that have themselves a grounded, god fearing
Speaker 1: man over there?
Speaker 2: And Jeremy Binard, Yes, just right here, man, you pull
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 3: With a Bible in your hand, so I keep I
Speaker 3: keep minds on me too.
Speaker 2: So how important is it to dive into the word
Speaker 2: every day? What advice would you give to the young people?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I said, you know, go to
Speaker 4: him to get your daily bread. So like every single day,
Speaker 4: I'm making sure that I'm opening up my word, that
Speaker 4: I'm praying, I'm giving him the time because you know,
Speaker 4: he has blessed me beyond measures, and you know, he
Speaker 4: gives me Grayson Mercy's every single day to wake up.
Speaker 4: And so I just know it's a blessing to wake
Speaker 4: up and I have to give him, you know, my life,
Speaker 4: like he says, like when when when we when Christ died,
Speaker 4: we died with him, so and we we we got
Speaker 4: a new life. And so that's the way I try
Speaker 4: to live. And I just continue to try to bring
Speaker 4: the young generation along with that. You know, I never
Speaker 4: try to be you know, forceful with it, but I
Speaker 4: always just try to plant those seas and let God
Speaker 4: do the rest and pray for people.
Speaker 2: That's good. Some plant some water, but God gets the increase. Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes,
Speaker 2: sir listen.
Speaker 1: Man, since this got into the league, man, he has
Speaker 1: got the pistoberg Man. Since he has become a stealer.
Speaker 1: The only thing that has been said about him has
Speaker 1: been one hundred percent positive talk about his work ethic,
Speaker 1: how he's a quick learner. Why because he has work ethic,
Speaker 1: his willingness to take advice from.
Speaker 2: His leader, his better leadership.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, The guys that are his
Speaker 1: o jeez, the guys that are going to give him
Speaker 1: that information. You know his professional mindset and you know
Speaker 1: his confidence without irrigance. You know what I'm saying, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: And it makes one hundred percent now since now, because
Speaker 1: he is a well grounded young man and he is
Speaker 1: grounded in his Lord and saved Jesus Christ, I would
Speaker 1: see getting no better than that, Joe.
Speaker 3: It don't get no better than that, Debo. It's a
Speaker 3: priority thing. It's a faith family football. I would call
Speaker 3: him the f's and then it's just the You know
Speaker 3: when you're grounded, you know where your butter is bred.
Speaker 3: So you're not gonna let people's waver your emotions. You're
Speaker 3: not gonna let Twitter and how people feel about you
Speaker 3: really impressed you because they don't know who you are.
Speaker 3: So the work's gonna work. The work's gonna speak out
Speaker 3: for yourself. You're gonna go out there, you're gonna grind,
Speaker 3: You're gonna put the work in. You're gonna speak to
Speaker 3: your Lord and save because you know, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you know that what's gonna happen for me
Speaker 3: is gonna happen for me.
Speaker 2: So I just love that the.
Speaker 3: Way that he's gonna be able to get through his
Speaker 3: trial and errors. He may not be like, it's not
Speaker 3: gonna say he's gonna be the best football player of
Speaker 3: all time, but I'm just loving that, you know that
Speaker 3: end of the day, he's gonna work and he's gonna
Speaker 3: be able to have his his priorities are in order.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but just from his college career, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be a
Speaker 1: productive member of this year's squad, especially in that you know,
Speaker 1: in that in that slot position. I just that's that's
Speaker 1: the way I see it. That's the way I feel
Speaker 1: about it, just from his previous work. And this is
Speaker 1: one of those things where hey, he can play the game.
Speaker 1: And then it's the character part of it. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of things. That's that that's something that a lot
Speaker 1: of uh gms and and and and owners don't really
Speaker 1: dive into.
Speaker 2: It's the character part.
Speaker 1: You gotta have somebody that has character that that that's
Speaker 1: that is built on something that has a a grounding
Speaker 1: an understanding that it's not me. I need to do this,
Speaker 1: it's not all me, because now you don't have that
Speaker 1: person that's in that locker room like I need this,
Speaker 1: I need that. This is this, this is that like simple,
Speaker 1: and he is grounding. He knows that everything starts with
Speaker 1: his Lord and saving ends with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. I love it. Brother.
Speaker 3: You need more players like this in the locker room
Speaker 3: because a lot of dudes they I mean just the football,
Speaker 3: his faith and everything. Because you know, like when we
Speaker 3: talk about character issues and we talk about not having
Speaker 3: to worry about him, you know, the end of the day,
Speaker 3: he's going to be out of the way. He's worried
Speaker 3: about football. The main thing is gonna be the main thing.
Speaker 3: So when he's balling out, when this contract time, there's
Speaker 3: no reasons not to pay him. You know that this
Speaker 3: dude is gonna be on time. He's gonna be in
Speaker 3: the meetings, he's gonna be doing what he gotta do.
Speaker 3: Great teammate, great locker room guy. Here you go, no
Speaker 3: question brother that listen. Bro, the more the more the.
Speaker 1: More I hear about him, especially you know this, this
Speaker 1: right here, this is not something that a lot of
Speaker 1: guys actually push out there at the beginning this special yeah,
Speaker 1: especially like I wasn't one of them. You know, I really,
Speaker 1: just like I said, it started really getting into it
Speaker 1: over the last you know, two three years when I
Speaker 1: accept Board and Saviors. So I'm not as vocal as some,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't sit and slide it up under.
Speaker 1: The First thing I do I get into my word
Speaker 1: good forty five minutes if not an hour, spend time
Speaker 1: meditate on it.
Speaker 2: Yep. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I shared it with people on my story just from
Speaker 1: one of my my daily devotional that I do story
Speaker 1: every morning as soon as that's that's that's one of
Speaker 1: the things I do. And to be honest with you, man,
Speaker 1: like I started to stop doing it at one point
Speaker 1: in time, and I'm like, you know what I can't
Speaker 1: stop doing Someone's like you can't stop doing it? And
Speaker 1: you know the thing that everyone is supposed to do
Speaker 1: is make more disciples. I'm not saying I'm a holy worler,
Speaker 1: but I know I've got plenty of messages from people
Speaker 1: that are like James, I read your story and I
Speaker 1: got the book, and now I'm in that process of
Speaker 1: walking my journey with my Lord and Savior and make
Speaker 1: a uh you know, a change in my life and
Speaker 1: become a save you know man.
Speaker 2: So you know I love it. Man. It's all in
Speaker 2: the way that you do it too, d Bo.
Speaker 3: Like you said, you don't want to feel like you're
Speaker 3: walking around more holier than thou because.
Speaker 2: You know you want to.
Speaker 3: I'm saying you want to welcome disciples, because it's like
Speaker 3: that's the thing. Some people get worried about Christianity because
Speaker 3: if you're a Christian they feel like, oh no, you
Speaker 3: can't do nothing bad. It's like, no, end of the day,
Speaker 3: we know I'm a sinner that needs a save you.
Speaker 3: So I'm not not here just to push it on everybody.
Speaker 3: But you are a walking you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You know who you are and you believe in it.
Speaker 3: So that's when I listened to him and he said,
Speaker 3: I'm not going out and just forcing my religion Navas,
Speaker 3: but I'm gracefully like I'm here.
Speaker 2: You can follow me.
Speaker 3: I know I am. You know what I'm saying, but
Speaker 3: it is what it is. I'm here to reach good,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So the way that you
Speaker 3: deliver it is. It's all good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. But I want to go over
Speaker 1: here to Cleveland. Yes, come on, oh listen, bro, you
Speaker 1: got IYO, Yes, and that's what I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to you about. Yes, sir, you got the old h Io.
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying to you when I mind
Speaker 1: my mic was off. I didn't know what mica was off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got the Ohio had on. Yeah you lebron over everything.
Speaker 1: You used to have a PA hat on.
Speaker 2: Right now. I love what they do. They just give
Speaker 2: me no, no, no Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Look, they not playing right now is still when they
Speaker 3: don't play they have I'm rocking with the Calves always,
Speaker 3: bron always. Cleveland is not going nowhere. They're not playing that.
Speaker 3: They're not playing Philly right now. So over in the
Speaker 3: Bronos they're not playing each other when they play each other.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it is what it is. But right
Speaker 3: now I'm always old.
Speaker 2: As you go to what what school did you go to?
Speaker 2: The university? Look, I went to the University of Florida.
Speaker 2: I was a Gator.
Speaker 3: My coach Urban Meyer, Urban Meyer coach, University of Florida,
Speaker 3: the University, the Ohio State University.
Speaker 2: So my college. I got ties in both schools.
Speaker 3: My strengthens and conditioning coach, the Great Mickey Muradi.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, and now you know I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I just got through the Lord. You got me cussing already.
Speaker 3: See That's what I'm saying. We know and you but look,
Speaker 3: you know you know right from wrong. That's what you
Speaker 3: know you're doing wrong. You can repent debo. I need
Speaker 3: somebody language. Listen, I need somebody. I need uh.
Speaker 1: The Ohio State University. One player that will come out
Speaker 1: here wearing a Florida hat. Y'all find me one.
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer would do it. Urban Meyer would do it.
Speaker 2: I said a player brot.
Speaker 1: He ain't never played, man, It's really about listen, man.
Speaker 2: The Gata Nation is.
Speaker 3: Over Ohio State because my college they played Data Data Nation.
Speaker 3: I rock with Ohio State because because it's it's on
Speaker 3: everything Cleveland, everything Cleveland.
Speaker 2: So I look out for Ohio State. But the University of.
Speaker 3: Florida, I'm I'm a mater while I went to the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame for It's number.
Speaker 2: One is that because lebron do their shoes.
Speaker 3: No responsored by Jordan's exact Florida Gators.
Speaker 2: Are Jordan's talking about Old State Ohio State? Are they
Speaker 2: are there? Are they Lebron School? Are they Nike School?
Speaker 3: I don't know because that's not my that's not my university.
Speaker 3: I know the Gators, our team, Jordan's and that's my squad,
Speaker 3: Ohio State.
Speaker 2: I'm not going o h il because it's in Ohio.
Speaker 2: I rock with anything that anything at the land, Rod
Speaker 2: played the game basketball, Joe.
Speaker 1: Lebron, James, you rock with Jordan's, Jordan's.
Speaker 3: I love Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan's, Michael Jordan's. It was
Speaker 3: Michael Lebron just passed Michael Jordan's and me finally being
Speaker 3: able to say he finally let me be able to
Speaker 3: vocalize it because of his long devity depot for me,
Speaker 3: him doing this this long.
Speaker 2: Like let me ask you a question, Let me ask
Speaker 2: you a question, Let me get to.
Speaker 1: What you say with the Jerry Rice. This is Jerry
Speaker 1: Rice a fact. I understand that. But Jerry Rice was
Speaker 1: still a damn good receiver.
Speaker 2: Cut it down, cut it down.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody still catching uh uh uh?
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice?
Speaker 1: In that time frame? Are you go to running backs?
Speaker 1: Go to running backs? Look at Barry got the highest
Speaker 1: right yes, burying in the same time frames. Barry's off
Speaker 1: the chart, but Emmett had the longevity because he had
Speaker 1: to go catching.
Speaker 2: He needed to go those extra years to catch him. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: you're telling me who you who? Are you picking Barry?
Speaker 2: I like Barry Sanders, no question, me too.
Speaker 1: I was scared coming in the league. I thought I
Speaker 1: was about play against him. I'm like, I can't have
Speaker 1: out there tearing up my A C L or something.
Speaker 1: He would have bruh, bait stop on the dome like
Speaker 1: and do all the No. I'm like, no, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, that.
Speaker 2: What we're talking about. I'm tired.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, we're good and we're going to Detroit.
Speaker 1: That was my first game I played the mother like
Speaker 1: preseason Detroit two.
Speaker 2: Thousand and three. I'm like, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Joe bro I just I'm just I'm just baffled
Speaker 3: that how I can't like how how if Lebron I
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit just just passed him from
Speaker 3: the longevity?
Speaker 2: Why am I crazy? Is that crazy?
Speaker 1: Because because you're saying, you're saying the longevity is what
Speaker 1: made him better not the actual play itself.
Speaker 3: You got from eye test too when I seen young
Speaker 3: when I see young Bron, Jordan went and.
Speaker 2: Played baseball, came back and got three more.
Speaker 3: The only reason why I'm saying this too is the champion.
Speaker 3: When I look for my eye test and I see
Speaker 3: young Broun out there with the cass when he came
Speaker 3: out there from high school seven eight years into the league,
Speaker 3: I thought that was the best player I had ever
Speaker 3: seen play like more athletic, like when Kobe came out
Speaker 3: of high school. He was behind Eddie Jones. He didn't
Speaker 3: start initially like he's still. If Lebron would have went
Speaker 3: to the Lakers, he would have started off rip. He
Speaker 3: wouldn't have been behind anybody. So just me looking at
Speaker 3: Lebron with my eyes, I thought he was the best
Speaker 3: basketball player out of anybody. Then he started winning the championships,
Speaker 3: went back to Cleveland, did all of that stuff. Then
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, he's for eye tests. Look, Jordan won
Speaker 3: six ships in the row, was best like immortalized. I
Speaker 3: thought nobody was ever going to touch Jordan. But then
Speaker 3: you see Lebron stay out the way Lebron got Lebron,
Speaker 3: it gots four has four ships. But it's like, I
Speaker 3: understand that. But if you have more ships, isn't what
Speaker 3: I would think makes me makes you the best player
Speaker 3: for my eye? Test, If you just want to say ships,
Speaker 3: then who what's my man that got eleven ships?
Speaker 2: Bill Russell? He should be somebody said test dunk Conny Way?
Speaker 2: I mean how many? I mean, I mean how many
Speaker 2: dunk contests? Brown? Do? He didn't do any dunk contests?
Speaker 2: Why not? Joe? I don't, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like Bron, I give him the two,
Speaker 1: No question about giving me. Look, I mean, I'm still
Speaker 1: kind of fighting with Kobe for the two, but I
Speaker 1: ain't go I ain't gonna go over there for I
Speaker 1: give him two, two, three, whatever whatever, But over Jordan
Speaker 1: Jordan played defense too, Bro, Bron plays defense?
Speaker 2: How many defensives?
Speaker 1: How many defenses awards did did he win versus Jordan?
Speaker 2: Jordan? Got like nine or ten of them things? Right? Man?
Speaker 2: I mean Bron got he ain't got one, dude.
Speaker 3: Look at Lebron. How many times? How many blocks he has?
Speaker 3: All them chase downs? Lebron, Nobody's just chas, Nobody's you.
Speaker 3: Nobody nobody's taking advantage of b Up. Nobody's taking up,
Speaker 3: nobody's taking advantage of Bron.
Speaker 1: I'm not, dude, I'm not listen. You think somebody was
Speaker 1: taking advantage at Jordan's.
Speaker 3: I mean, pipping was, but you can't say it was
Speaker 3: pipping better at defensive Jordan.
Speaker 2: I would say, so mm hmmm, all right. That's the
Speaker 2: other thing. That this other thing they started starting one spot.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to talk. That's the other part.
Speaker 3: It gotta make me starting looking like I gotta talk
Speaker 3: bad about Jordan's up Broun. I have nothing bad to
Speaker 3: say about Jordan. Jordan is immortalized. Jordan did nothing wrong.
Speaker 3: So that's why I want. I want to listen.
Speaker 1: I need Jordan to give me the shoot deal that
Speaker 1: he gave you see yep, listen, that was.
Speaker 3: A great, great, great, great, great great deal.
Speaker 2: Thank you, m j.
Speaker 3: Broan ain't give you ban an't give me no deal.
Speaker 3: He didn't, he didn't, he didn't. But that's why you know,
Speaker 3: I'm this is non this is non uh bias, Yes
Speaker 3: it is, but wow, I did from I got to
Speaker 3: deal from Jordan. If it was bias, I would be
Speaker 3: like man Jordan's way more. I think Jordan is sure
Speaker 3: he can't bron can't pass him. It's my opinion. I
Speaker 3: think Jordan's number just right. It's one, one, A, one B.
Speaker 3: That's what I can say.
Speaker 2: That, okay, So what would have made Jordan just straight one?
Speaker 2: If he would have played longer, if.
Speaker 1: He would have played longer, what else did he have
Speaker 1: to accomplish?
Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing, there's nothing. That's that's all. Okay.
Speaker 1: So here so a D when the coldest D lineman
Speaker 1: we're done seeing and I don't know how long because
Speaker 1: he didn't play longer, and somebody else comes and plays
Speaker 1: longer and takes up that time to beat his numbers
Speaker 1: or get to his numbers. Now they're greater than him exactly.
Speaker 2: That's what would look this, This is my question. Though.
Speaker 3: I think Randy Moss his career was shorter than Jerry Rice's,
Speaker 3: but Randy Moss, I feel like, if you want to
Speaker 3: say long time best receiver of all time, I think
Speaker 3: it's Randy Moss, but Jerry Rice's numbers because he plays
Speaker 3: so long and was so consistent, then that's really like
Speaker 3: how you can't say nobody was better than Jerry Rice
Speaker 3: because he did it for so long and was so
Speaker 3: consistent and so great for that long like him and
Speaker 3: Randy Moss's peak greatness of seasons was probably.
Speaker 2: Around the same.
Speaker 3: But then Jerry Rice just did it for so much longer,
Speaker 3: because literally.
Speaker 1: When I see it, okay, so do you have an
Speaker 1: idea of what their numbers look like in their peaks?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: But then that's when it comes like you're taking apples oranges.
Speaker 3: It's like who you your perfinal present doesn't have to
Speaker 3: be because his numbers were a little bit better, like
Speaker 3: the eye test would say if he has this Montana like, no,
Speaker 3: I will say, Jefferson's.
Speaker 2: Got today's thing.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Moss even though I think Rice there's number one,
Speaker 1: I'm still taking on.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm saying Gordon and Lebron thing. It's like
Speaker 3: I understand the only way he could have passed it.
Speaker 3: It was Jerry Rice just played this long.
Speaker 2: Anybody ever catch Rice's receiving numbers, don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think nobody's ever catching nobody's ever catching a
Speaker 3: Lebron James scoring record. And he's not even a real
Speaker 3: and they say he's not even.
Speaker 2: A score.
Speaker 3: He's not, he's not, but he's the all time leading
Speaker 3: scorer of all times and he's going to.
Speaker 2: Be never twenty three years. Bro, you gotta be, you
Speaker 2: gotta be. See that's what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: Right, So if somebody played twenty you mean you gotta be.
Speaker 1: You gotta be. If you're considered, if you're going to
Speaker 1: be considered the greatest of all time, you played twenty
Speaker 1: three years, you gotta be.
Speaker 2: You gotta have all records.
Speaker 1: You gotta have every record, especially if it comes to
Speaker 1: over accumulation of like you know whatever. But like again,
Speaker 1: I told you, but the eye test tells me when
Speaker 1: I see Jordan Brown primed up, I'm Jordan's.
Speaker 2: It's Jordan's. Okay.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we will go over here. This USA Today writer
Speaker 1: goes off on the Browns. He said, what are the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns doing? Seriously, we have no idea, he said.
Speaker 1: Both Watson and hasn't paid lip service to the notion
Speaker 1: that the locally I hate, locally Despies quarterback could be
Speaker 1: back with the team next year when he's current and
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed and widely deroyed contract expires. The notion that
Speaker 1: the notion that he'd return is almost as ridiculous as
Speaker 1: the notion that he could potentially start over Sanders, a
Speaker 1: second year player who needs a lengthy look at some point,
Speaker 1: as burying company assists to assess their options ahead of
Speaker 1: what's expected to be a rich quarterback draft next year,
Speaker 1: when the Browns own two first round picks thanks to
Speaker 1: the good trade, he goes on to.
Speaker 2: Say, and given.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's fans, and giving Cleveland fans seem to embrace Sanders
Speaker 1: to a degree perhaps approximate.
Speaker 2: To that.
Speaker 1: To their animus loom, why not just give the young
Speaker 1: man a long leash and park the very wow dude,
Speaker 1: this dude's tripping the very lame duck on the bench
Speaker 1: and Sanders dude?
Speaker 2: Who is this dude? Man?
Speaker 1: If Sanders plays well, maybe your quarterback question is answered.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, then you're primarily positioned to get your
Speaker 1: to get his replacement at the top of the next
Speaker 1: year's board, maybe without having to invest further capital.
Speaker 2: ALIAS. This is Cleveland at last, This is Cleveland. Hey, bro, Yes,
Speaker 2: who is this cap oh Usa tripping? Tripping? He went hard?
Speaker 2: He tripping trip? What did Nate Nate Davis man?
Speaker 3: Hey, he went in on y'all, bro, he went in.
Speaker 2: I think they know why you going in like that, Joe.
Speaker 1: I said that, I said that yesterday. I'm like, why
Speaker 1: are you even saying that's a possibility, Joe. Possibility as
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's a possibility that yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2: Could come back.
Speaker 1: What they just want to lie to y'all now, I
Speaker 1: think see they told y'all what they we ain't trade Miles,
Speaker 1: Miles gonna be here, he gonna be here forever, and
Speaker 1: then boom, he gets traded. Yes, like every storyline y'all
Speaker 1: get this year, it comes out as this and then
Speaker 1: it ends up being opposite.
Speaker 2: Yes, what's going on, Joe?
Speaker 3: This is blatantly but he's telling us at the end
Speaker 3: of the day debo that I and you were saying
Speaker 3: the same thing. The owners, we see GMS, we see people,
Speaker 3: they gonna say something and next thing you know, they're
Speaker 3: gonna do another because they've been working on things behind
Speaker 3: the scenes. Stuff is going on, and they don't have
Speaker 3: to tell you the truth. They literally don't. So with
Speaker 3: the USA Today writer right here saying is when they're
Speaker 3: saying that they want to sign Deshaun Watson after the season,
Speaker 3: that's crazy. And he's saying what I'm saying, and what
Speaker 3: other people are saying, No matter what, you got to
Speaker 3: bite the bullet. You've already signed the two hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty million dollars. You know you did what you did.
Speaker 3: But end of the day, when you're saying this, you
Speaker 3: want the shan We want DeShawn Watson to play well.
Speaker 3: You have him under contract, obviously, you don't want him
Speaker 3: to not be looking good. So for outside, for everybody
Speaker 3: on the outside, you're just pushing Deshaun Watson as much.
Speaker 2: As you can.
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, you're not going
Speaker 3: to sign him on this who contract, I would think not.
Speaker 2: You already gave him this bread.
Speaker 3: What we need to do is what he's basically saying
Speaker 3: is we need to play Chador Sanders, the young quarterback
Speaker 3: that we have that is thriving that everybody loves that
Speaker 3: the locker room is winning over that he's actually playing
Speaker 3: pretty well.
Speaker 2: He has weapons around him. Let's give him a chance
Speaker 2: with this team.
Speaker 3: Because if you don't find out what's your door, then
Speaker 3: you get rid of Deshaun obviously because you already pay
Speaker 3: them that bread. You can move on now, or you
Speaker 3: have options where you have two first round picks, so
Speaker 3: stop like you're just out here just saying stuff. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, just trying to make sure your
Speaker 3: team looks good because if you have to move on
Speaker 3: because owners and gms behind the scenes, they're not saying this.
Speaker 2: I don't think I would hope.
Speaker 3: Not well unless like because in today, you already made
Speaker 3: the money and it is what it is, so you
Speaker 3: got to live with that. But as an owner, you're
Speaker 3: trying to make sure that your team and everybody looks
Speaker 3: as good as they possibly can.
Speaker 2: When when so the value doesn't go down.
Speaker 3: You're not going to deplinish the value of a player
Speaker 3: on your team if you can.
Speaker 1: So last ditch effort is what y'all doing to hopefully
Speaker 1: think that somebody thinks or somebody is willing to possibly
Speaker 1: make a trader for this man before the season starts.
Speaker 1: I think that's the only reason y'all saying this stuff
Speaker 1: right now. That can be the only reason, because all
Speaker 1: y'all do is tell stories and feed everybody bs and
Speaker 1: then gonna do something else, like they gonna feed this
Speaker 1: say he could do this and do that, and then
Speaker 1: if somebody was to say, hey man, hey we want
Speaker 1: to trade for him, let us.
Speaker 2: Get Cloud he had been off like a rocket.
Speaker 1: Joe, your browns, it is browns many browning man.
Speaker 3: Look, this is all I'm telling you everything you you
Speaker 3: we got actions that is going to speak louder than words.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to watch and see what's going on
Speaker 3: during the preseason. We're seeing Shador and Deshaun Watson are
Speaker 3: in a battle.
Speaker 2: Chador is playing well.
Speaker 3: So hopefully when the season comes, when these games start coming,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have to announce the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: This is we're in flux the boat.
Speaker 3: We're getting everybody's other information, all these insiders, right, and.
Speaker 1: You think you'll get your starting quarterback that's going to
Speaker 1: be your started game one or the preseason.
Speaker 3: No, no, I said after after the joint practices, after
Speaker 3: we play the Buffalo Buffalo Bill's joint practices.
Speaker 2: Coming out of that, we'll have a starting quarterback before
Speaker 2: the preseason game. The second preseason game.
Speaker 3: Oh, the second preseason second game, Yeah, first preseason game
Speaker 3: the fifteenth. Then we go to joint practices the twentieth,
Speaker 3: and then we play the Bills of twenty second, the
Speaker 3: second preseason game.
Speaker 1: Joe, I don't see them having their starting quarterback to
Speaker 1: after the third preseason game. Joe, I don't see him
Speaker 1: naming one till then, Joe, that's just me. I feel
Speaker 1: you like, as much as they doesn't win, back and
Speaker 1: forth on this and that and everything else, and then
Speaker 1: you see the quarter that they tracking all this man
Speaker 1: the young boy, the young boy doing better than all
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, he got less reps. He's going
Speaker 1: against you know, lower competition. But I'm just saying, like it,
Speaker 1: look it looked better. You know, he ain't got I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, ain't got no interception.
Speaker 2: No, no, for sure. He let the young boys keep
Speaker 2: running it.
Speaker 3: I mean, Dylan and Dylan and Jalen Green are looking
Speaker 3: bad either, So keep letting them throw the ball.
Speaker 2: See what's going on? Who's going to make the thing?
Speaker 2: It's crazy them saying, yeah, that's out of control.
Speaker 1: Look here, man, that boy Bjon Robinson with the Falcons.
Speaker 2: He just broke the bank.
Speaker 1: A three year, seventy five million now makes him the
Speaker 1: highest paid running back in NFL history. He will receive
Speaker 1: a record fifty one million guaranteed. And oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: this boy got thirty seven million dollars signing monster.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Joe, yep, yep, yep. That's twenty five.
Speaker 3: Year, twenty five year brody thirty seven to sign the
Speaker 3: paper reseat. He getting all that, he resigned that good
Speaker 3: market for s up, he gets thirty sevens off the
Speaker 3: rip in seventy five.
Speaker 1: Yep, he's seeing all that all three, oh for sure,
Speaker 1: all that for sure.
Speaker 2: Now what they gonna do over there in Detroit with Goobbs,
Speaker 2: that's why you want to hit the hell is? Look
Speaker 2: at you see what they coach say it, says Gibbs.
Speaker 1: Cryptic comments on how long Lions hold in will continue,
Speaker 1: he said, only time will tell. Running Back Jamier Gribbs
Speaker 1: has now missed five straight practices and still no deal
Speaker 1: in sight with the Detroit Lions. Joe yep, I guess
Speaker 1: currently he is the NFL woo thirty fifth highest paid
Speaker 1: running back, thirty first, sorry, thirty first highest paid running back.
Speaker 1: That's like almost dead last. If you're talking all starting
Speaker 1: running backs, like four point four six, that boy getting
Speaker 1: four point four six. Say Kwan had twenty point six,
Speaker 1: he just got twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, what see that's what that's what happened.
Speaker 5: They got rid of and they got rid of Dad Montgomery.
Speaker 5: They even got a leg of stand on what y'all
Speaker 5: gonna do. Man, when Joe they need to do something.
Speaker 5: They're gonna have to make him happy. Bro, They're gonna
Speaker 5: have to do something. And if it's gonna be what
Speaker 5: he's looking for to guarantee. But like I said, the
Speaker 5: nothing but the salary cap is not going nowhere but up.
Speaker 3: And when these dudes are bawling b Jhon Robinson deservingly.
Speaker 3: So even when your team isn't doing exactly what it
Speaker 3: has to do as far as wins and losses, you
Speaker 3: are doing what you gotta do.
Speaker 2: Stand out the way, not making no noise.
Speaker 3: Same thing with Gibbs, he's putting up the numbers and
Speaker 3: then Montgomery, you got rid of him, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So now you knowing that you got to
Speaker 3: make sure that you take care of Gibs. So he's
Speaker 3: sitting in a position where he knows that he's out
Speaker 3: played his contract. So everybody knows that Gibbs deserves a signament.
Speaker 2: When you're seeing B.
Speaker 3: John Robinson signed for twenty five million dollars a year,
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, you know what time it is for Gibbs?
Speaker 1: For sure, they asked I guess they Dan Campbell his
Speaker 1: reaction to uh, Robinson's contract, and he said, uh, for
Speaker 1: Gibbs's deal, he said, it's certainly not going to hurt,
Speaker 1: but we'll see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's man. He he wants some out there.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The coach he don't got too much to say. If
Speaker 3: he could give, if it was his money, he give
Speaker 3: us the Gibbs. Ah what what who? They ain't got no.
Speaker 2: Real big paid players over there.
Speaker 3: They got they got, they got, they got Jalen my Man, Williams,
Speaker 3: J dou they got golf, golf. Yeah, you know, those
Speaker 3: three three nice bags. But they got they got, they
Speaker 3: got room.
Speaker 2: Man with us looking at them.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, Ryan is the president of the stuff over
Speaker 1: there and uh in Atlanta. Man, he getting new boys
Speaker 1: paid over there. Man, I got to get paid by him,
Speaker 1: make money.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 1: Look here, man, go ahead, cut this down a little bit, baby,
Speaker 1: Jump on in over here. We go jump on in
Speaker 1: over here. Man, Cut this down, man, because right now
Speaker 1: we have we have our guests.
Speaker 3: They have they have finally arrived.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome a hot end. We have
Speaker 1: two of the driving forces behind Diamond Jim and the
Speaker 1: extreme I'll say extreme workouts that have led to a
Speaker 1: lot of viral content that you guys have been seeing
Speaker 1: over the past three years or so. Often considered the
Speaker 1: most dangerous gem in America. They have athlete, celebrities, influences, entertainers,
Speaker 1: regular people.
Speaker 2: You know, they just come to Jim and Jim and uh.
Speaker 1: To try and prove their self to do what they
Speaker 1: do and see what they could do. But we'll getting
Speaker 1: a little deeper into that. Yes we go through the interview,
Speaker 1: but uh what these uh, the these two men right here, they.
Speaker 2: They they shape they shape men and and it's it's
Speaker 2: it's through five. You know.
Speaker 1: I think when I first met him, here's a crazy thing, Joe.
Speaker 2: Look here.
Speaker 1: So my sons was like before this even got started,
Speaker 1: like before this ever even happened, shout out to NFL,
Speaker 1: NFL network in rob and and uh out digital in
Speaker 1: the NFL just digital they put they they ended up
Speaker 1: putting all this together, but at the league officer. But
Speaker 1: my kids sent me a thing and they like, Dad,
Speaker 1: how do you know I want you to go to
Speaker 1: Diamond Gym. They said, they said he was one of
Speaker 1: the people they want. They want you to get there.
Speaker 1: And I ain't gonna lie at the time, I didn't
Speaker 1: even know who it was. So I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? They like here, look they showing me right,
Speaker 1: and I'm bruh, look at me in my eyes sho.
Speaker 1: I looked at that ship and I said, hey, Dad
Speaker 1: ain't built like that. No more, I ain't even I
Speaker 1: don't even got that desire, I said, So I need,
Speaker 1: I said, I said. I said the boys over there
Speaker 1: doing fifty thousand reuss bro I said, you're trying to
Speaker 1: kill what you're trying to do, right, So yeah, long
Speaker 1: story short, it comes together and they're trying to get
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: The NFL is trying to get there. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get to them.
Speaker 1: And we ended up getting together and I'm like, you know, what,
Speaker 1: the hell with it, I'm gonna do it. So they
Speaker 1: ended up wanting to put us at some little gym
Speaker 1: somewhere or whatever it was. I'm like, no, let me
Speaker 1: talk to the Stillers. So I made a call. So
Speaker 1: we got down there.
Speaker 2: We got to the Stellers facility. Joe. Now, listen, this
Speaker 2: is the day before the drive, right Joe.
Speaker 1: I then did my little warm up, you know, I
Speaker 1: do my do my forty five minutes do all my
Speaker 1: stretching and stuff. They come in. I'm soaking wet. Whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: start we start, we start doing the thing. Hey, this
Speaker 1: nigga gonna tell me ay first set? Two hundred huh,
Speaker 1: two hundred, two hundred. Yeah, I say what I made like.
Speaker 2: It wasn't nothing, though, you know? Yeah, Early, Oh, what
Speaker 2: is the what is the what?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: What's that all about? Joe Man? Bring these boys on here, man,
Speaker 2: welcome to the show. Uncin hottie. Let's go. What's good man?
Speaker 2: I see you back there, boys sitting off in the corner.
Speaker 2: We here we here, Ja, James, I really like the introduction.
Speaker 2: I was very introduction. Yeah, appreciate it, preced appreciate, appreciate it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I trying to do what I can when I can.
Speaker 6: Hey, James, he's up. He's scared to ask you about
Speaker 6: your acupuncture picture.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, what about it? You're as.
Speaker 6: I want you to be sexy?
Speaker 2: James? Whoa, whoa? You're talking about that body word and
Speaker 2: look through that. What is talking about?
Speaker 1: I'm in the National geographic Healthcare maintenance bodycare Middle easterns.
Speaker 2: Well, it's actually a picture that's way worse than that.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: It's the whole in the national geography, it's the whole spread. Like,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. They made that thing to where
Speaker 1: they ain't covering nothing. It's a full backshot. They ain't
Speaker 1: covering hing.
Speaker 2: But I ain't gonna lie to you by that. Like
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, they I ain't even know they was
Speaker 2: up over top of the Chamberlain.
Speaker 3: It was like, oh nice, I'm not here.
Speaker 2: I'm not here, yeah bright, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 2: It was wild.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, but I'm just showing the people
Speaker 1: the body work, the processes that you go through that
Speaker 1: to get where you need to be.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. They improved, but daring his caring.
Speaker 6: But to answer your question about the two hundred reps,
Speaker 6: we like to do things that not only exhaust the body,
Speaker 6: but exhaust the mind. So we try to make everything
Speaker 6: a challenge. And then on top of that, it's like
Speaker 6: we don't want to jump in the heavy weight because
Speaker 6: people will get hurt. So our way of preventative care,
Speaker 6: as they would say, is if we're gonna do chess
Speaker 6: that day, we probably do two thousand reps of just
Speaker 6: triceps extents and then we go into our chest press.
Speaker 6: We might do five hundred warm upsets they'll will go heavy,
Speaker 6: so that way we can just prevent injury, get the
Speaker 6: muscles flair or not, get them fast swished muscle fibers.
Speaker 6: And then it's also a challenge because if I do
Speaker 6: two hundred, how do you gotta do two hundred? The
Speaker 6: next kid gotta do two hundred. And then after every
Speaker 6: set we do thirty five pushups just to keep it.
Speaker 6: So it's like for us, is the harder the workout is,
Speaker 6: the more satisfied we become, because it's letting us know
Speaker 6: that the body is limitless, so to speak, and that
Speaker 6: your mind and your body are kind of in a sink.
Speaker 6: So when the kids come in and they see it
Speaker 6: on social media, they think it's a game today. Fucked
Speaker 6: excuse me to they messed up.
Speaker 2: You gotta know.
Speaker 6: Then they're throwing up and then oh, and no, we're
Speaker 6: gonna do the workout with you. So and that's another thing,
Speaker 6: and they say, well, unk, you don't do this because
Speaker 6: we have certain rules. If I don't break the rules,
Speaker 6: I don't pay the toll. But if you break the
Speaker 6: you close your eyes on the set, you're gonna do
Speaker 6: push ups. You drink water doing the set. You're gonna
Speaker 6: do push ups. You don't pay attention with the exercises
Speaker 6: what we're doing. You're gonna do push ups. And now
Speaker 6: was to the point that how he didn't understand it
Speaker 6: at first, and now he's the ultimate ruling for us.
Speaker 7: Now because I had to pay the price, James, I
Speaker 7: had to pay the price bro I got. I was
Speaker 7: getting beat off of, actually beat up for three years
Speaker 7: over the look I closed my eyes fifty push ups. Uh,
Speaker 7: my chote was an inrue short of Hunter burbys. It
Speaker 7: was punishment. So now I pay the same price.
Speaker 2: I that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think, I think when you look
Speaker 1: at it, it's a it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 1: physiological and a psychological you know, aspect to you know,
Speaker 1: this kind of training or environment because you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna meet people that are like you, and not only that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be people that are going through the same
Speaker 1: sort of difficulties that you're going through. And now you
Speaker 1: sit down there with him, and you work out with them,
Speaker 1: and you go through the same training and at some
Speaker 1: point the pain comes, dude, all right, and that's something
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now, Joe. At some point
Speaker 1: the pain comes, and everybody's going to feel that pain.
Speaker 1: It's just going to be at a different level. Since
Speaker 1: they've been doing it long enough, they threshold for the pain.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be higher than what mine was. Okay, And
Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, man, and you're going
Speaker 1: through that, like, it gives you that knowledge that, all right,
Speaker 1: I already had it that I could go through hard things.
Speaker 2: I know I can make it through, you know.
Speaker 1: And I knew that it wasn't something that would kill me,
Speaker 1: but I hadn't went through what they did do the
Speaker 1: massive number of reps do it. At some point in time,
Speaker 1: your body is like I'm done.
Speaker 2: My body told me. It was like I'm done.
Speaker 1: And that's when I had to go into the you
Speaker 1: know what's the past failure. It was like, I can't
Speaker 1: be done. I'm fucking five minutes into this workout, bro,
Speaker 1: I can't be done for really it's impossible, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're still doing it. So it was like, as much
Speaker 1: as I didn't want to dig back into that bag, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, it's the only way through.
Speaker 1: It was the only way and the biggest thing is
Speaker 1: like the exercise that a lot of people don't understand,
Speaker 1: like it changes it changes your brain. Like it's plenty
Speaker 1: of studies out there that show that it increases, you know,
Speaker 1: just everything from mood to learning. And when you put
Speaker 1: your brain through things like that, you put your body
Speaker 1: through things like that, and your brain learns that this
Speaker 1: stress doesn't mean danger.
Speaker 2: It learns that it's something I can overcome.
Speaker 1: And that's something that not just for workouts that stress
Speaker 1: that you be able to overcome, but in life, in
Speaker 1: situations where you're stressed as a man, where you're stressed
Speaker 1: as an individual, and you learned that, you know what,
Speaker 1: this stress is not gonna break me.
Speaker 2: I can. I can work on this, I can overcome this.
Speaker 2: I can I can make it through this.
Speaker 1: So, you know, I think that's something that you guys
Speaker 1: have really got into now.
Speaker 2: Just over the stretch of you doing what you have
Speaker 2: been done.
Speaker 1: When did you guys start basically having this whole thing
Speaker 1: with Diamond gym platform where you were you know, building
Speaker 1: all this up.
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty one, Okay, it's been almost five years now. Yeah,
Speaker 6: a little little in the middle of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: I think, yes, okay, okay in a filming.
Speaker 6: But the funny thing is I've been a Diamond since
Speaker 6: ninety six, so I think that's a that's a thirty ball.
Speaker 6: And then I met Hotty, but Hatty was training HoTT
Speaker 6: He's always been the athlete's always been in shape. So
Speaker 6: I would always leave Diamond and go to different gyms
Speaker 6: and just meet people and like, yo, if you really
Speaker 6: want to come train, meet me at Diamond because it's
Speaker 6: different from these commercial gyms. And here you exercise that Diamond,
Speaker 6: you train, not just mentally and physically. Like, so what
Speaker 6: happened was I used to i'd met. I used to
Speaker 6: bully Hottie around, call him pretty boy.
Speaker 2: And everything that man I got to.
Speaker 6: Go by and hit him with a body shot for
Speaker 6: no reason and he'll like this, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 6: like do the workout. And then one day he was
Speaker 6: like the third party friend of ours reached out like
Speaker 6: we're doing YouTube videos, we want to come in Diamond,
Speaker 6: and me being me, I'm like, I don't like cameras.
Speaker 6: I don't want to be a part of no cameras.
Speaker 6: I don't want to do none of that. I didn't
Speaker 6: know anything about social media, with the gravity of social media, TikTok,
Speaker 6: none of that. I had an Instagram page, but I
Speaker 6: was already working out on it, Like I didn't know
Speaker 6: about YouTube and filming, like, yo, we come in a film.
Speaker 2: You all ahead?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm all ahead. I'm still man. I was before Instagram, Twitter,
Speaker 6: any of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah came that day.
Speaker 6: I didn't work out with them that first day. I
Speaker 6: just walked them through the gym. We did a crazy workout,
Speaker 6: and the buzz went crazy because it was two different
Speaker 6: I'll just say it's two different eras, like meeting at
Speaker 6: the younger generation. I'm a little bit older, so my
Speaker 6: style is different from this new generation. And when we
Speaker 6: meshed it went crazy because we brought two different age
Speaker 6: demographics together. So then I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna jump
Speaker 6: in the next workout because I don't want to be
Speaker 6: like I'm telling y'all to do something I'm gonna do.
Speaker 6: But when I jump in, now we all gonna die,
Speaker 6: right right, Yep. It just kept it just kept getting bigger, stronger,
Speaker 6: and faster, and then the more we did it, it
Speaker 6: was like it was meant to happen because more kids
Speaker 6: wanted to join and now it's like we went from
Speaker 6: three of us filming, so now we got a whole
Speaker 6: family of kids. We got two kids playing football next year.
Speaker 6: They actually go to football camp August August eleventh. A
Speaker 6: lot of kids in college, we help them go to
Speaker 6: their proms, We help them go like to they graduation.
Speaker 6: We build the family off of pain. Basically pain. Everybody
Speaker 6: has their own little emotional structure, whether it's dad not
Speaker 6: being home, them have a low self esteem, and everybody
Speaker 6: has their own finger. When they come to Diamond, they
Speaker 6: get to let it out the right way and not
Speaker 6: the wrong way. Yes, you can discipline yourself in the gym,
Speaker 6: you can discipline yourself in.
Speaker 2: The real world.
Speaker 6: So what happens is a lot of these kids don't
Speaker 6: know it's okay to be angry, it's okay to have emotions,
Speaker 6: it's not okay to lose those emotions. What happens is
Speaker 6: these kids can't tame their emotions outside of the gym,
Speaker 6: so they end up doing drugs, go to jail, beating
Speaker 6: up people, hitting women, all types of stuff. So we
Speaker 6: give them structure in the gym. It bru it's nothing
Speaker 6: to talk about. Put your phone down or you so
Speaker 6: we let that dictate how they take care of themselves
Speaker 6: outside and it creates a sort of disciplined structure outside
Speaker 6: of the And with HATTI the great thing about HoTT
Speaker 6: he is people look at Hotti like, oh, he's a
Speaker 6: walk in the park, and he is a behind closed doors.
Speaker 2: He's a monster.
Speaker 6: He's a workaholic doing the YouTube videos, editing. He's a
Speaker 6: self made businessman.
Speaker 2: But in that.
Speaker 6: Gym, to see him going to gym. To be honest
Speaker 6: with you, and I hate to say it, when I
Speaker 6: look at certain influencers and this is just me being me.
Speaker 6: I see the still shots, I see the black and
Speaker 6: white photos. I see all this. I don't see the work.
Speaker 2: I don't see when the Jim's sweating.
Speaker 6: I don't see you when the gym crying. I don't
Speaker 6: see you when the gym about the pass out, because
Speaker 6: you get I just see your pictures on Instagram. I
Speaker 6: see the filters, I see the magazine photo shoots. So
Speaker 6: from him going to that world to really being a
Speaker 6: dog in the gym, it changed the landscape because now
Speaker 6: you got to back up what you put on social media.
Speaker 6: We don't care about the pictures you post. Come walk
Speaker 6: that motherfucking walk with him. All of social media influences
Speaker 6: his age. They come and try to get a test
Speaker 6: to that shit and they get dropped off. And it's
Speaker 6: not as being arrogant or us not being humble. It's
Speaker 6: his reality. This is how he trains every day now
Speaker 6: and then he models for a certain company. So a
Speaker 6: lot of those kids started training with us and they're like, Yo,
Speaker 6: this ain't no facade. This is really him busy. Like
Speaker 6: it's just like you, Debo, It's just like you and Joe.
Speaker 6: You guys performed on the field, but I was always
Speaker 6: taught champions have made when no one is watching.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir Joe, Joe tell him Joe.
Speaker 6: Are on the field. It's the ship that he doing
Speaker 6: the gym and behind closed doors that makes him a
Speaker 6: success story because he works hard. It's not giving some him.
Speaker 6: Oh he's Arabic, he must come from rich parents. No,
Speaker 6: he works his ass off and he believes in him.
Speaker 2: I know he got some money. The niceness, I know
Speaker 2: he got some money. Now money over the