Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Wills Adams,
Speaker 1: and this is Bachelor and Paradise Unplugged. The beach is
Speaker 1: officially closed the summer, and our cast has returned to
Speaker 1: hash out some unfinished business. I think we have to
Speaker 1: start with introductions of all these beautiful people that I
Speaker 1: had to serve drinks to two fortnights. Let's start with Andrew, Hello, Alex.
Speaker 2: Dale, Spencer, Jess, Jeremy.
Speaker 3: Babe, Shiny Boy, Brian Yappy, and the guy who I
Speaker 3: think should be the next Golden Back.
Speaker 1: All right, we got to start with the most important thing,
Speaker 1: which is Jeremy, why do you hate old people? The
Speaker 1: most important thing is talking about the two couples who
Speaker 1: ended up winning not only money, but you found love.
Speaker 1: Give us the update, Andrew, Alex, what's going on.
Speaker 4: Everything's going really well. You know, we've been in hiding
Speaker 4: for a while. Uh, the disguises were out, so it
Speaker 4: was great.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: We we still navigated through, you know, watching the show
Speaker 4: and also just kind of like dating outside of the show,
Speaker 4: and I think that was very important to us. I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, go ahead, text all your hoes that
Speaker 4: you had before.
Speaker 6: I was no, I'm serious.
Speaker 4: I was just like, make sure, just be like, make
Speaker 4: sure you let everyone know, like, hey, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pursue something with this guy. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I think that was just the most important thing, just
Speaker 4: like translate paradise into real life, because paradise is, you know,
Speaker 4: it's a bubble.
Speaker 7: It's kind of tough.
Speaker 8: Like I don't get to wake up in here every day.
Speaker 8: She like lives in La I live in Chicago. So yeah,
Speaker 8: you want to say, baby, I think you covered it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been lovely and in that short period of
Speaker 9: time that we've had, I feel like I've helped you
Speaker 9: grow and You've helped me grow so much and I'm
Speaker 9: so thankful for that. Yeah, so it's been doing going
Speaker 9: really really well.
Speaker 1: On a personal note, I mean I get to see
Speaker 1: everyone's love story kind of unfold behind the bar, and
Speaker 1: I do think that you guys had the cutest story
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of it.
Speaker 10: We didn't pay him.
Speaker 1: We didn't pay him because it was such a funny, awkward,
Speaker 1: cute like burn and I just got to say, like
Speaker 1: I love you too, don't worry, I'm gonna get to you.
Speaker 1: But like watching your guys love story unfold in front
Speaker 1: of me was like really really cute, and I'm just
Speaker 1: I just want you guys to know that I'm rooting
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 4: The crazy thing was is when we had our chat
Speaker 4: before I decided who was going to go on a
Speaker 4: date with, I remember talking to you and you were like,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm so awkward, I'm super nervous.
Speaker 8: And I'm just like, oh, this is like this is perfect.
Speaker 8: Like now I feel like I know who you are.
Speaker 4: You're not like putting up some like guard or trying
Speaker 4: to come off your best self like in a different way.
Speaker 8: Like it was, but that was super nice. And then
Speaker 8: like when we when I.
Speaker 4: Belined to you in the morning and talked about it,
Speaker 4: I think I just knew right then and there like
Speaker 4: that's what like I wanted to pursue, and what I
Speaker 4: wanted to do was just kind of be around you
Speaker 4: and like be ourselves and it just felt perfect.
Speaker 10: And you wanted a weird girl.
Speaker 8: I do like a weird girl.
Speaker 1: You guys are perfect. Speaking of perfect couples, I mean
Speaker 1: we got to talk about the Golden Retriever that looks
Speaker 1: like Clark Kent Spencer and Jess. You guys congratulations. You
Speaker 1: want some money and you guys got engaged. How are
Speaker 1: you guys doing I'll let you take this. Can we
Speaker 1: see the ring? You heard it here first of the rings.
Speaker 11: So it is getting resized right now. Don't worry, guys,
Speaker 11: we are still engaged. No, but we're doing so good.
Speaker 11: We have really honestly enjoyed this time of like hiding
Speaker 11: and just getting to spend time with each other. It's
Speaker 11: obviously hard, you know, staying hidden. There's so many things
Speaker 11: we want to do and experience together, but we really
Speaker 11: just try to take this time for what it is,
Speaker 11: and we're so excited to get out there in the
Speaker 11: real world and go on some dates. We're actually getting
Speaker 11: on a red eye flight straight to Tennessee for him
Speaker 11: to see my hometown and meet the rest of my
Speaker 11: family and the rest of my friends. And it's gonna
Speaker 11: be so much fun. Also, spoiler alert, I am moving
Speaker 11: to Dallas.
Speaker 1: Everyone.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so at the beginning of the year, I'm.
Speaker 10: Gonna move to Dallas.
Speaker 11: We just feel like it's the besting for a future
Speaker 11: right now, and we're super excited.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she has met my whole family.
Speaker 1: We went back.
Speaker 6: They have disowned me, mate, they have disowned me and
Speaker 6: she is now their daughter, So I'm I'm without family. No,
Speaker 6: but I've been able to meet her parents yet because
Speaker 6: Irwin is it's a real small town. Small town, we
Speaker 6: got a couple thousand people there, so if we would
Speaker 6: have gone there would have been hard to stay under wraps.
Speaker 6: So we're going there asap, and you know, it's just
Speaker 6: been the best time to people have time just her
Speaker 6: and I. I cannot wait to actually live a normal
Speaker 6: life and be able to go on a date. We
Speaker 6: haven't been on.
Speaker 11: Did the grocery store? Like, we just want to go
Speaker 11: to the grocery store and pick out groceries together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, grocery store morning, while let's go on a day.
Speaker 6: Let's like actually be able to date normally. I think
Speaker 6: is the thing I'm looking most forward to.
Speaker 1: Did you guys ever think that you would find your
Speaker 1: person on some weird, wacky no, Oh my god, wait, this.
Speaker 11: Is actually really funny. I had a trip planned with
Speaker 11: my boss and some of her girlfriends that I was
Speaker 11: literally I had it planned. I was supposed to leave
Speaker 11: like May twenty second or something. I ran out of close.
Speaker 11: I had another trip planned. I didn't think that this
Speaker 11: w what ever happened for me in a million years.
Speaker 11: And then I met Spencer and he changed my life.
Speaker 6: And I'm a romantic in that case scenario the way
Speaker 6: in my best case scenario, I was like, yeah, maybe
Speaker 6: I meet someone that I can like date outside of
Speaker 6: this and we see if we can make something work.
Speaker 6: But then there's always the logistics going on your head
Speaker 6: of most likely we're not going to be in the
Speaker 6: same city. Uh, Paradise is a little bit of a bubble,
Speaker 6: and dating outside of that is differently. And then I
Speaker 6: met her, so that all changed. Yeah, it all changed
Speaker 6: instantly there. So I knew after the first day I
Speaker 6: was either going to spend my whole time Paradise getting
Speaker 6: to know her, or I was getting on the flight
Speaker 6: back to Dallas.
Speaker 1: So I gotta say okay real quick, just for everyone
Speaker 1: out there watching and listening, I very rarely cry. I
Speaker 1: have a black heart and no soul. But when you
Speaker 1: said I can make more money, but I can't make
Speaker 1: more Jessica Taylor got me too. It was the line
Speaker 1: of the season. I have to say, well done, dude.
Speaker 12: True.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go through all the other couples, see the
Speaker 1: other ones that were engaged. Kathy and Keith. Yea, when
Speaker 1: I go on with you guys, I got a ring.
Speaker 6: It's just on the wrong hand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no ring, no ring.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 5: We're still great friends. I mean, we met each other
Speaker 5: back in February an iHeart event there and we became
Speaker 5: really good friends there and it just has even grown
Speaker 5: much more than it, you know, I mean the experience.
Speaker 5: I know, you know, you read all the comments and
Speaker 5: everybody they go, why are they still on it? You know,
Speaker 5: it's for love, and I'm a big batterer and Paradise fan,
Speaker 5: and I really believe it's for I'm gonna cry now too,
Speaker 5: and I believe it's for love as well. And so
Speaker 5: I knew that we needed to go at some time.
Speaker 5: But I really enjoyed my time with you, Kathy.
Speaker 8: We had a great time, and I just want to
Speaker 8: say that.
Speaker 13: They're at our age. There's different kinds of love. And
Speaker 13: I love Keith. He's been such a good friend to
Speaker 13: me and we continue to be friends, and we both
Speaker 13: are looking for romantic love, but we have each other
Speaker 13: as great friends and that's really important too.
Speaker 14: Well.
Speaker 1: It was very fun to watch you guys on TV.
Speaker 5: I love these couples here. I love you guys. I
Speaker 5: love you guys so much. I mean I talked to
Speaker 5: Ale Psyche a lot. I think, out of everybody, I
Speaker 5: love you so much, one of your hosy and I want.
Speaker 1: To apologize for the statement I made about you drinking
Speaker 1: all my booze. It was true.
Speaker 5: My daughter texted me she watched that show, and my
Speaker 5: daughter texts me, she's like, Dad, at least you were
Speaker 5: authentic on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Parisa, Brian, what's going on with you? Guys?
Speaker 8: I want to start.
Speaker 15: It was a good run, you know, it was a
Speaker 15: good Yeah, and it's a great experience.
Speaker 16: Yeah, that I wouldn't take back. I think life just
Speaker 16: kind of gotten away from me running my restaurant. Distance
Speaker 16: is tough, but we're still you know, good close.
Speaker 7: Friends and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we'll get back to you.
Speaker 6: I know more is coming.
Speaker 1: So Jonathan Lea, what's going on over there? You guys
Speaker 1: still friend zoned each other making tiktoks or what's happening?
Speaker 10: Pretty much?
Speaker 17: I mean, we were friends before, and I think it
Speaker 17: kind of just brought us closer.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we got to go through.
Speaker 17: Like I told her after we got off, I'm like,
Speaker 17: if I was in that position with anybody, else, I
Speaker 17: don't think I would have had half as much fun.
Speaker 17: I mean, I think anybody could tell if you guys
Speaker 17: know me outside of it, just wasn't loving my time
Speaker 17: about halfway through, so when I'm getting there and then
Speaker 17: when Leay got there, after we kind of fixed our friendship,
Speaker 17: like everything just started to get better and we had
Speaker 17: a lot of fun. And then we left the show
Speaker 17: on the best terms possible and spend a lot of
Speaker 17: time together watch episodes, chat about everything, and.
Speaker 8: She's kind of just helped me get through everything, and
Speaker 8: I think vice versa.
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't have had it any other way. Honestly,
Speaker 18: I know I talked all the time about we should
Speaker 18: feel in love. I think that everything like really was
Speaker 18: meant to happen the way that it did. And I'm
Speaker 18: so grateful for Jonathan, And yeah, we're just the best
Speaker 18: of friends. We support each other. I help him wingman
Speaker 18: his lady, he helps me out, you know, so like
Speaker 18: a good dynamic going on here.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I got to say one thing that America
Speaker 1: was robbed of was your interviews. You were the weirdest person. Well,
Speaker 1: if we do on our paradise, hope you come back
Speaker 1: because you deserve to find someone there.
Speaker 18: If I'm still single by a year from now.
Speaker 1: Please Sean Alicier, are you guys still hot and heavy?
Speaker 1: What's going on with you guys?
Speaker 10: Yeah, well we saw you for the fourth of July.
Speaker 1: Yes, but that was fun. I hosted you at my
Speaker 1: country club.
Speaker 12: We definitely love Paradise with a great relationship and continued
Speaker 12: it on the outside. We've kind of been faced with
Speaker 12: a little bit of distance. I would say, I've had
Speaker 12: some opportunities come up in LA and I've pursued them,
Speaker 12: and that's something that we've discussed. I'm not willing to
Speaker 12: compromise my career goals for a heterosexual man, and Sean
Speaker 12: supports that.
Speaker 8: So we love each other.
Speaker 12: I think we're best of friends and more than anything else,
Speaker 12: just the best of teammates, and we respect and care
Speaker 12: for one another.
Speaker 19: Yeah.
Speaker 20: It was a good run. Yeah, but no, everything she
Speaker 20: said was correct. I think you know, distance is really tough, obviously,
Speaker 20: and you know, when you put it in the grand
Speaker 20: scheme of things of like Paradise. We've known each other
Speaker 20: for like twenty six days prior to leaving together, and
Speaker 20: you know there's certain things within your career, your life
Speaker 20: that you got to take advantage of. I mean, opportunities
Speaker 20: don't happen that often, so you know, at the end
Speaker 20: of the day, like I have my career, she has
Speaker 20: her career, and like it makes it tough with the distance,
Speaker 20: but we did walk away with the best of friends.
Speaker 7: So very happy to leave Paradise.
Speaker 1: With that nice. Well, I want to take congratulations on
Speaker 1: winning the Masters this year than you.
Speaker 8: If you're not first, you'll last.
Speaker 1: So Jeremy Bailey, what's going on with you? Guys?
Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like, similar to like Alex and Andrew,
Speaker 14: we definitely restarted our relationship. I think we were really
Speaker 14: happy with the foundation and the things that we really
Speaker 14: got to know about each other in Paradise, and I
Speaker 14: feel like we've honestly spent so much time with each
Speaker 14: other this summer, just traveling back and forth.
Speaker 10: We went to Portugal, he met my mom and my
Speaker 10: sister over there.
Speaker 14: And we traveled around a little bit, and I've been
Speaker 14: in New York for majority of the summer. I think
Speaker 14: a lot of people that posted spoilers can attest.
Speaker 10: To that, So I feel like that's been fun.
Speaker 14: We have been trying to do the disguise thing, but
Speaker 14: you know, you can only wear a wig so much
Speaker 14: before your wig gives out. So I feel like we've
Speaker 14: just really loved being with each other every day. And yeah,
Speaker 14: we definitely have some exciting plans for later this year.
Speaker 14: And yeah, so yeah, I feel like we're in a
Speaker 14: really good place and really happy with each other and
Speaker 14: meeting families and I feel like that's all you can
Speaker 14: really ask for. And friends and he's not all my
Speaker 14: best friends. I'm meeting his best friends. So yeah, we're
Speaker 14: really happy.
Speaker 1: Well, congratulations she died. Definitely not least we have Dale
Speaker 1: and Kat. How are you guys doing.
Speaker 7: We're in a great place. I can say kind of
Speaker 7: the same thing you all both said.
Speaker 21: Restarted a little bit after paradise, because the biggest thing
Speaker 21: is understanding, like lifestyles, I travel a lot and it's
Speaker 21: not always the easiest, but you know, my my intent
Speaker 21: was early on to make sure that I was spending
Speaker 21: as much time in San Diego as I could so
Speaker 21: that we could just get a sense of the relationship.
Speaker 21: Fast forward, she hasn't met my family or anything yet.
Speaker 21: South Dakota is Yeah, it's South Dakota, So you know,
Speaker 21: it's stepping off that planer in that airport. But you know,
Speaker 21: I had the the chance to spend time with her family,
Speaker 21: which was amazing. And you know, our goal is just
Speaker 21: to build this relationship as strong and as tight as possible.
Speaker 21: We've talked about all the things, whether it's San Diego,
Speaker 21: I mean even recently, Like you know, we're just open.
Speaker 21: We want want to be together, we want to do
Speaker 21: this the right way. And I think like throughout Paradise,
Speaker 21: we we had a very real natural arc of how
Speaker 21: relationships go. We had the worries early on, we had
Speaker 21: the triggers that popped up. We had the moments where
Speaker 21: we had to manage meltdowns, we had to you know,
Speaker 21: stand up for our partner.
Speaker 7: And never me. We both had meltdowns, that's true, but
Speaker 7: you know, deaded and uh the bugs.
Speaker 21: But I think that like is a is a beautiful thing.
Speaker 21: I think a lot of times on some of these shows,
Speaker 21: like people are so afraid to to to just be.
Speaker 21: And the thing I love about Kat so much is
Speaker 21: that she's messy, she's imperfect, but she's beautiful in every sense.
Speaker 7: And like that's not something that like scares me, you know.
Speaker 21: And I'm also the same way. It's like Dale and
Speaker 21: then Dale comes out I was drinking too much rose.
Speaker 21: But I think anyone that you know, it's been on
Speaker 21: the show kind of understands, like how I'll ride for
Speaker 21: somebody and I know that like Kat will ride for me.
Speaker 7: So everything else, like we'll figure out.
Speaker 21: We didn't win the prize, but you know, I think
Speaker 21: on the challenge side, we still yeah, you know, we're
Speaker 21: ten toes down and held it down.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 22: Oh he said it all. Georgie approves. My little kitty
Speaker 22: approves too, so that's what really matters. Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 22: he's took it away. He's it's been wonderful. Family's met him,
Speaker 22: everything's been really good.
Speaker 12: Nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Cat, you're not a rookie to Paradise. It's
Speaker 1: your second venture to the beach. I got to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts. One why did you come back? And two
Speaker 1: what'd you think about the new digs.
Speaker 22: Well, I will say I was very hesitant coming back
Speaker 22: to this because of just you know, it's it's hard
Speaker 22: to put yourself back in a situation where it didn't
Speaker 22: work out well the first time. So like I was
Speaker 22: very hesitant to come back and make myself vulnerable and
Speaker 22: all the things. But the opportunity presented itself, and I
Speaker 22: said why not. I was in a really good in
Speaker 22: my life. I feel a little bit more secure in myself,
Speaker 22: and they did promise there was going to be air conditioning,
Speaker 22: so I.
Speaker 11: That was like my very first question, and I just
Speaker 11: kind of I also.
Speaker 22: Didn't know anything about anyone. I came in without any
Speaker 22: background of anybody, haven't watched, and that's very different than
Speaker 22: the time before. So I thought this would be kind
Speaker 22: of an opportunity to see where that can go and
Speaker 22: just come in like fresh, and if it didn't work out,
Speaker 22: I could always leave, So I had the autonomy to
Speaker 22: do that and just wanted to see what was going
Speaker 22: to happen. And as far as the setup, it's so
Speaker 22: much better. I actually at one point said I felt
Speaker 22: like cars on vacation, which is crazy because it's still
Speaker 22: in the tropics and I don't vacation in the tropics.
Speaker 22: And so it was just overall and I think the
Speaker 22: cast in general everyone was just very like, honestly, probably
Speaker 22: the most authentic I've been around, and that makes it
Speaker 22: such a more real experience and that's when you can
Speaker 22: form like real relationships.
Speaker 7: So it was great.
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Speaker 14: Well.
Speaker 1: Obviously things were a lot different this paradise. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, money was involved in these challenges as well, Jess.
Speaker 1: I was wondering what your thoughts of the challenges were
Speaker 1: in their relationship tests.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Honestly, it's funny because I see the comments online and
Speaker 11: people are like, oh, these challenges suck, weh blah.
Speaker 1: But I enjoyed them.
Speaker 11: I thought they were really good for our relationship. There's
Speaker 11: only so many things that you can talk about in
Speaker 11: scenarios you can kind of make up in your head.
Speaker 11: Whereas we were kind of actually put to the test.
Speaker 11: We got to learn things about each other that maybe
Speaker 11: we wouldn't learn until way later down the road.
Speaker 1: We got to see how.
Speaker 11: Each of us you know, handle conflict, handle losing, which
Speaker 11: was at times it was tough, you know, okay with it? Yeah, No,
Speaker 11: I love the challenges. I thought that it brought us
Speaker 11: closer together together, and it gave us an opportunity to
Speaker 11: just like work as a team.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all second everything the beautiful woman's my loft set.
Speaker 1: You guys are already married, my father in law and
Speaker 1: our wedding said. The only two words you need to
Speaker 1: remember are yes and dear.
Speaker 6: I will say, I can't imagine our relationship being where
Speaker 6: it is right now if we have just been sitting
Speaker 6: on a beach for a month. You know, the fact
Speaker 6: that we had these challenges that did bring up, you know,
Speaker 6: potential conflict scenarios of where you might see yourself in
Speaker 6: the future, what you're looking for in a relationship that
Speaker 6: would last outside of paradise. And yeah, I think the
Speaker 6: competitions were overall a huge plus.
Speaker 1: Dale, What did you think do you like the competitions?
Speaker 21: I I I like the competition. I mean taking an
Speaker 21: l was was definitely hard. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 21: I think the competitions were were great. Honestly, because at
Speaker 21: that stage, I think everyone had formed you know, for
Speaker 21: the most part, just because some people were kind of
Speaker 21: forced into a situation where they might not have had
Speaker 21: the romantic connection, but they still had to find common
Speaker 21: ground and really like dig deeper into their partner.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, whatever, grow up.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 21: But for for for those who like had that that connection,
Speaker 21: it really really you to get uncomfortable and put yourself
Speaker 21: aside and like give everything that you had. Like I
Speaker 21: know that for me personally, the money was an incentive,
Speaker 21: but I was like, at the end of the day,
Speaker 21: I didn't give a fuck about the money. I cared
Speaker 21: about coming through for Kat and like from a financial standpoint, like, yeah,
Speaker 21: it's an incentive for the relationship, but I feel like
Speaker 21: most people the focus, you know, was their partner.
Speaker 7: And I don't know, like that's that's just my my take.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think it was.
Speaker 10: It was fun.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I wasn't sure if it
Speaker 1: was going to be a successful endeavor, But now watching
Speaker 1: it back and experiencing it and then seeing all the
Speaker 1: successful couples that came out of this season, I actually
Speaker 1: do think it was actually really helpful. So I hope that,
Speaker 1: like it's something that we continue doing because you want
Speaker 1: to see what your partner does in times of stress
Speaker 1: or or how they take a loss and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. It's important and I think it was
Speaker 1: really cool.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: The last thing that was kind of big and different
Speaker 1: about this season was the advent of the Goldens coming
Speaker 1: in at Bailey, and it seems so I mean, I
Speaker 1: think that the Goldens had an impact on everyone, but
Speaker 1: it seemed like Bailey for you, you really were kind
Speaker 1: of impacted by the Goldens being there, and I wanted
Speaker 1: to get your take on them being there.
Speaker 14: I absolutely adored having the Goldens there. It honestly just
Speaker 14: like felt like my parents were there. So I feel
Speaker 14: like I just got to kind of like, I don't know,
Speaker 14: it's like hard when you're processing all these things and
Speaker 14: then like there's Cockroad just calling up your legs and
Speaker 14: you're like, how am I supposed to send people home?
Speaker 14: I don't know, There's a lot, you know, there's a
Speaker 14: lot to process, and I feel like I really enjoyed
Speaker 14: having all the Goldens there because it just felt like
Speaker 14: my mom and my dad were there, and I just
Speaker 14: was able to like be with them and get advice
Speaker 14: from them and.
Speaker 10: Laugh and not feel stressful.
Speaker 14: And I like would love when Kathy would like do
Speaker 14: these random quizzes with us and it was like take
Speaker 14: all of our minds off of everything. She'd be like,
Speaker 14: would you rather have a shark but your toe or like,
Speaker 14: I don't know. So I feel like having the Golden
Speaker 14: there really positively impacted my experience and I probably would
Speaker 14: have gone home earlier just from like mental stress. And
Speaker 14: I loved the challenges. I think it was really important
Speaker 14: for all of our relationships. But I think the environment
Speaker 14: is a really stressful environment and you're processing a lot
Speaker 14: and you're not always in the best headspace, and so
Speaker 14: I feel like for me, at least, having the goldens
Speaker 14: there was really necessary. And I kind of feel like
Speaker 14: they should get their own paradise.
Speaker 1: Or I don't disagree with that Golden there listen like
Speaker 1: the challenges. I wasn't really sure how this is all
Speaker 1: gonna work and what it was going to look like.
Speaker 1: But as someone who was there the day that you
Speaker 1: guys all showed up, you guys were such a vibe change. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we need and it's so weird that, like you
Speaker 1: think that the youngs would be the ones bringing all
Speaker 1: the energy in. It was all the Goldens who really
Speaker 1: like injected the beach with so much energy. And I'm
Speaker 1: just so thankful that you guys showed up.
Speaker 6: Could I say something about I would also like to
Speaker 6: say that whenever Keith or Kathy or any of the
Speaker 6: Goldens gave us their perspective on things happening, whether it
Speaker 6: be within our relationship, paradise as a whole, especially with
Speaker 6: both Keith and Kathy forming this beautiful friendship. I know
Speaker 6: for all the romantic couples, she was my focus whenever
Speaker 6: she was around, which is no secret to anyone here,
Speaker 6: And it was like that for a lot of for
Speaker 6: all the romantic couples. Right, You're trying to build this
Speaker 6: relationship here, and both Keith and Cathy got to see
Speaker 6: everything from the outside, and they got to see it
Speaker 6: with an eye that has experienced so much more life
Speaker 6: than any of us. So whenever Keith or Kathy said anything,
Speaker 6: and whenever they say anything, I hold it with a
Speaker 6: lot more gravity. And I love them very much, and
Speaker 6: I'm so beyond grateful your makeup.
Speaker 13: And it's just when you get to be our age,
Speaker 13: you realize how important relationships are and the little things
Speaker 13: don't matter.
Speaker 6: And you have to get to be our age.
Speaker 13: To know how important people are. And that's why on
Speaker 13: the show, when Keith and I said we didn't care
Speaker 13: about the money, we didn't because at our Age, it's
Speaker 13: it's a connection with you, guys. It's a connection with
Speaker 13: people that matter. And seeing your happiness it made my year.
Speaker 5: I also want to say, no, it's I just want
Speaker 5: to thank all of you for welcoming us as well.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Jeremy didn't like us in the beginning.
Speaker 5: I'm joking. I'm totally joking.
Speaker 8: I'm not joking.
Speaker 13: And Jeremy are fighting, but tears are over now I'm
Speaker 13: coming after you. So I gave you a chance last night,
Speaker 13: Jeremy to tell me how much you love me.
Speaker 8: No, what does Jeremy say?
Speaker 13: I didn't want the Golden to home. I just hated
Speaker 13: the Golden Jeremy.
Speaker 4: Say that.
Speaker 1: I didn't like them at first.
Speaker 8: Yes, how much do you love me?
Speaker 13: Jeremy put it publicly.
Speaker 22: I think it's.
Speaker 14: Important to know that me, Kathy and Jeremy are all tauruses.
Speaker 14: So we are incredibly suborned and.
Speaker 10: Honestly down this hill.
Speaker 13: But here's something I will back down because I have
Speaker 13: agent wisdom. I am so happy to see you guys
Speaker 13: in love.
Speaker 10: That we have some young and transferring over.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm happy for you guys.
Speaker 1: That's what matters.
Speaker 5: No, I just want to Fish. I just want to
Speaker 5: thank you for accepting us in here, because you didn't
Speaker 5: have to do that at all, and you know, you
Speaker 5: allowed us to be us. And I keep in touch
Speaker 5: with a lot of your people in here, and I
Speaker 5: have new friends and yeah, yeah, I actually yeah, but Cat.
Speaker 5: I saw Cat at stage coach before even the show,
Speaker 5: but she gave me cred. I walk in and I
Speaker 5: don't know who came up like, Oh, you're the dude
Speaker 5: that saw You're the dude that was at t Pain.
Speaker 10: I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 11: Cat said she met you at tea Pain and you
Speaker 11: were like.
Speaker 5: I was like, you seemed like for the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick, Dale, can you explain to me what dead.
Speaker 7: It is and what it means what it ended? Ceased
Speaker 7: to exist?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 21: No, longer in existence, finish. I've been like hearing that
Speaker 21: for like ten plus years. New York people all over
Speaker 21: know know the thing. Locker rooms people knew, knew it also,
Speaker 21: you know, the rose probably brought a little.
Speaker 1: Vocabulary Oh you're blaming me now.
Speaker 7: Both. But yeah, that was just a moment where I
Speaker 7: was feeling probably a little too good. But dude, I
Speaker 7: was like pulling up the chair thinking like we're gonna
Speaker 7: have this like deep roman, I was like, where's this
Speaker 7: come from?
Speaker 21: But the reality is, like, you know, in this environment,
Speaker 21: in these stages, you're like you go into these situations
Speaker 21: thinking you know how you're gonna handle everything. But the
Speaker 21: reality is, especially when feelings are involved, certain triggers and
Speaker 21: certain things can affect you and the other person may
Speaker 21: have done nothing wrong or had no.
Speaker 7: Context or anything.
Speaker 21: And I've said this to Kat before, you know, in
Speaker 21: that moment, I thought it was a really great thing
Speaker 21: for us because it was a realization for me that, like,
Speaker 21: the reality is, I cared for all my friends and
Speaker 21: everything on the beach, but no one could affect me
Speaker 21: in the way that Kat could have.
Speaker 7: And she didn't even have to, like she didn't even try.
Speaker 21: It was just like, because I cared so much about
Speaker 21: us being good and whatever trigger came up and wherever
Speaker 21: that came from, that was an indication to me that like, okay,
Speaker 21: a I was wrong with how I handled the situation,
Speaker 21: a difference in communications versus like timing and emotions.
Speaker 7: But after the fact, we.
Speaker 21: Moved through it very very quickly and it was a
Speaker 21: big moment for me. And honestly, I stand by whatever
Speaker 21: I'll say.
Speaker 22: I accidentally used it in my vocabulary like way too often.
Speaker 22: I think I said it on the phone the other
Speaker 22: day and my girlfriend was like.
Speaker 23: What did you just say?
Speaker 1: Why are you saying that? I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: even know.
Speaker 10: It's like it's like a thing.
Speaker 7: Now in New York. That's a thing.
Speaker 22: But I will say, like if anyone understands like being
Speaker 22: triggered or defensive in that environment, it's definitely me. So
Speaker 22: I definitely feel like I understood where something's happen. It
Speaker 22: always comes back to like how you move through it afterwards,
Speaker 22: and I think, yeah, it shows you about people.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you do good.
Speaker 1: Way Bailey and Jeremy. Obviously, timelines are important but hard
Speaker 1: to kind of like adequately represent on a TV show
Speaker 1: that's a lot of stuff's happening in the very short
Speaker 1: windows of broadcast time. I wanted to get your guys'
Speaker 1: thoughts on kind of like when did the connection start,
Speaker 1: How are you guys feeling in the beginning of your relationship.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think the connection started on the first day.
Speaker 23: You know, we kind of just sat next to each
Speaker 23: other as a couch like this and started chatting and
Speaker 23: we hit things off and things were still new, and
Speaker 23: it really just developed for you know, a long time.
Speaker 23: Obviously we both went on other dates and something's happening
Speaker 23: between and by the time the composition, like we were
Speaker 23: pretty locked in on each other, and like Jess was.
Speaker 19: Saying, the challenges and stuff really helped and really just
Speaker 19: helped develop our relationship and we were at a really
Speaker 19: strong point to the point where, like, you know, I
Speaker 19: asked her would be my girlfriend before I left, which
Speaker 19: I would not have done unless I meant it, And
Speaker 19: it just gave us like a fresh opportunity just like
Speaker 19: really like talk things over and start fresh after paradise
Speaker 19: and see where things headed. And to you know, my surprise,
Speaker 19: they were even better when when you left a beautiful beach.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 14: In the beginning we were also trying to just like
Speaker 14: suss out you know, you're you're just processing so many
Speaker 14: things and you're also just like you you don't want
Speaker 14: to lock in like on the first, you know, first night,
Speaker 14: because you're just like, what's about to happen?
Speaker 10: Who's coming in? But I feel like we both did
Speaker 10: a really good job of constantly like choosing each other.
Speaker 14: Wait, that was not sorry, it was I feel like
Speaker 14: for us, like I didn't want to leave Paradise with
Speaker 14: any regrets, and I wanted to make sure that, like
Speaker 14: the whole point of Paradise is that you experienced so.
Speaker 10: Many things that you wouldn't normally do in the outside world.
Speaker 14: And I feel like, normally we're both very much people
Speaker 14: that just like you're clocked in on one person, and
Speaker 14: that's just how we both normally date. And I feel like,
Speaker 14: at least for us and for me at least, I
Speaker 14: really wanted to make sure that, like, as long as
Speaker 14: I kept wanting to choose Jeremy after I think that
Speaker 14: was the most important thing of like figuring that out.
Speaker 14: And then obviously after like three or four weeks paradise time,
Speaker 14: which is like I don't know, seven days after three
Speaker 14: or four weeks, and you're like, okay, you know, like
Speaker 14: I did a normal week time of all of this,
Speaker 14: and I feel like I still know how my feelings
Speaker 14: are and I still feel I still know where I'm
Speaker 14: feeling drawn to, and I think that's kind of at
Speaker 14: least what those That's what I was going for, Like
Speaker 14: I wanted to go to whoever I was drawn to
Speaker 14: the most, and every single time that was Jeremy for me,
Speaker 14: and so I feel like that's what helped further our connection.
Speaker 10: And then I think going on our one on one.
Speaker 14: Date, I think everyone can say when you finally get
Speaker 14: to go on a one on one date, you're like, oh,
Speaker 14: this just like when you go on that date with
Speaker 14: your person, You're like, I feel like our relationship really
Speaker 14: got to.
Speaker 10: Go over all those hills that we were.
Speaker 14: Kind of battling also, so I feel like that was
Speaker 14: I think the night that we both really felt like
Speaker 14: we really locked in at that moment and obviously went
Speaker 14: in the competition. The first challenge was really important too.
Speaker 14: It just showed how much stupid knowledge we knew about
Speaker 14: each other, and then from there we were able to
Speaker 14: just really get deep on our date, and I feel
Speaker 14: like that.
Speaker 10: Was really important.
Speaker 14: Those are important conversations that we need to have with
Speaker 14: each other, because yeah, it's kind of like what Jessa
Speaker 14: is saying, like, you know, you can only talk about
Speaker 14: so many things, and sometimes it's hard to get deep
Speaker 14: at first, and so yeah, I feel like that was
Speaker 14: a really big turning point for us.
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Speaker 1: You know a thing that I always talk to fans
Speaker 1: about is I think that everyone needs to give everyone
Speaker 1: that comes on the shows a little bit of grace
Speaker 1: because you're really exposing yourself to millions of people and
Speaker 1: their judgments and probably the most for YouTube from this
Speaker 1: last season, and I imagine that navigating a relationship post
Speaker 1: show was tough with the online chatter and fans being
Speaker 1: upset with things that happened, and I wanted to get
Speaker 1: your guys' take on how you're able to navigate kind
Speaker 1: of post show up until now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was tough.
Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, listen, Like I've made some stupid mistakes
Speaker 19: that me and her have obviously talked about a million
Speaker 19: times during the show before it aired, walad aired that
Speaker 19: you know, I wish I could take some of them back,
Speaker 19: and unfortunately, like that's how you're judged. And at the
Speaker 19: end of the day, like you know, we're pretty thick skin,
Speaker 19: and we know what we have. We know what we
Speaker 19: had on the show, we know what we've had since
Speaker 19: everyone who knows us here knows what we have, and
Speaker 19: we just try not to let people get to us.
Speaker 19: And like obviously, you know, I wish that I'm not
Speaker 19: judged off of you know a few minutes, Yeah, where
Speaker 19: I acted like a child in front of tens of
Speaker 19: millions of people. But I need to live with that,
Speaker 19: and you know, it's something that we've talked about and
Speaker 19: I'm just happy that I have her, and that weren't
Speaker 19: a good place.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to that kind of infamous phone call situation. Listen,
Speaker 1: I think that everyone out there needs to have a
Speaker 1: little bit of empathy because a lot of things were
Speaker 1: happening at that moment, and I know that, like in
Speaker 1: that interview, you were upset because of Bailey going on
Speaker 1: a date with Andrew, So put us in time and
Speaker 1: place and like what was going through your mind and
Speaker 1: through your heart.
Speaker 19: Yeah, obviously, like looking back and watching the show back,
Speaker 19: I shouldn't have been upset because I did go on
Speaker 19: a day like a day before. I think the reason
Speaker 19: why I was initially like really annoyed was that, you know,
Speaker 19: she kind of said that she was here for me,
Speaker 19: and in my mind it wasn't like, oh, I'm here
Speaker 19: for you until someone else comes in. But like, looking
Speaker 19: back on it, I'm like, if I should go on
Speaker 19: a date, like she should be allowed to go on
Speaker 19: a date too, And I'd gone. I'd known Bailey for
Speaker 19: only a few days at that point. I went on
Speaker 19: a good date with the other girl and.
Speaker 8: And and I did have a good time.
Speaker 19: So it was just like a tough decision. And then
Speaker 19: like when you hear stuff like that, and then I
Speaker 19: feel I felt like in the moment, obviously we've talked
Speaker 19: about it, In the moment, I felt betrayed. And then
Speaker 19: that kind of just like sticks in the back of
Speaker 19: your head. So then even like when when she came
Speaker 19: back and chose me, it was still like in my
Speaker 19: mind for a few days after that.
Speaker 1: And Bailey, for you watching it back, it's got to
Speaker 1: be tough. And I remember being in your guys issues
Speaker 1: having to watch back hard moments for you. What was
Speaker 1: going through your mind when you're having to watch a
Speaker 1: show back.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like, and I've said this a few times,
Speaker 14: like it was really hard to watch this entire season back. Honestly,
Speaker 14: I feel like in the moment of Paradise, I gave
Speaker 14: so much grace because I totally understand. I think it's
Speaker 14: a really difficult space to be in, and it's still
Speaker 14: difficult to watch it back, But I also understand where
Speaker 14: everyone's minds are. I think it's really easy to feel insecure.
Speaker 14: I think it's really easy to doubt things. I think
Speaker 14: it's really easy to feel stressed. I think there's just
Speaker 14: so many emotions that you're processing, and unfortunately you don't
Speaker 14: have a phone like to desensitize you or to you know,
Speaker 14: distract you from anything. Like you really have to go
Speaker 14: head on with all of your emotions and everything that
Speaker 14: you're feeling, and the comments are hard to watch because
Speaker 14: I think most people that are starting their relationship don't
Speaker 14: have to watch it back from the beginning and see
Speaker 14: their partner having those moments of doubt or you know,
Speaker 14: still juggling different people, and that's kind of how normal
Speaker 14: relationships work, Like when you start talking to somebody, you
Speaker 14: don't know that they're not talking to other people. And
Speaker 14: I think it's really easy to just want Paradise to
Speaker 14: feel like these amazing, beautiful love stories that are like unicorns,
Speaker 14: but like that, like they're unicorns, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 14: Like it is, and so I feel like for us
Speaker 14: coming out of it, it did just feel like kind
Speaker 14: of we got through a lot of the challenges that
Speaker 14: normal relationships would face in the beginning, and I think
Speaker 14: that's kind of how we've processed a lot of those moments.
Speaker 14: And obviously I wasn't caught off guard by much.
Speaker 10: We had a lot.
Speaker 14: We've had so many deep conversations about anything, about everything
Speaker 14: that was said and just everything that we went through,
Speaker 14: and so it's still hard to watch those things because
Speaker 14: you know, like where we are now and how in
Speaker 14: love we are. It's like you have those moments where
Speaker 14: you're just like sad that that happened. But I also
Speaker 14: feel like that was just such a small part of
Speaker 14: our story and it's not like what sticks in the
Speaker 14: back of my head every day.
Speaker 19: That makes yeah, And I will say that, like one
Speaker 19: thing that I definitely wish I would have changed is
Speaker 19: like when I was like just like talking out my ass,
Speaker 19: which I do a lot, I wasn't. I wasn't doing
Speaker 19: it in the headspace like, oh, you know, if Bailey
Speaker 19: and I are together, like I should be way more
Speaker 19: thoughtful of like what she thinks watching this back. It
Speaker 19: was kind of selfish and I was just like living
Speaker 19: in the moment and it was still in the beginning,
Speaker 19: so I had no idea that we would actually be together.
Speaker 19: And unfortunately, like that is what our story was made.
Speaker 19: And I couldn't be happier for you know, justin Spencer
Speaker 19: and Alex and Andrew, but to our credit as well,
Speaker 19: we had a great love story. And because of like
Speaker 19: a few days of things that happened, it really like
Speaker 19: overtook everything. And I think that was the hardest part
Speaker 19: for us, which was really you know, tough for both
Speaker 19: of us, but especially Bailey. Is that we had this
Speaker 19: amazing love story that like I never thought i'd find
Speaker 19: someone on the beach, she never thought she would, and
Speaker 19: no one really got to see that.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I agree with that because I was Jeremy's roommate
Speaker 21: and you know, regardless of what was going on, Even
Speaker 21: watching it back, you know, there's so many conversations that
Speaker 21: happened in the night, and but even just the way
Speaker 21: how affectionate he was with her, and you know, there
Speaker 21: was no doubt that you know, they loved and cared
Speaker 21: for each other. And uh, you know, so even just
Speaker 21: as a friend and someone else going through the experience
Speaker 21: and watching it back, it was very very hard for me,
Speaker 21: and I think, you know, there's a lot of situations
Speaker 21: within you know, the show that you didn't get to
Speaker 21: see some of those moments, but they were down for
Speaker 21: each other, you know, with without question.
Speaker 1: I got to ask, like, what do you think would
Speaker 1: have happened if Susie had come back?
Speaker 19: I probably would have been like, oh fuck, yeah, what
Speaker 19: did I do?
Speaker 1: By show of hands? Because this is a question that
Speaker 1: gets asked a lot online is who knew about this
Speaker 1: whole thing before Bailey did?
Speaker 14: Well?
Speaker 6: There was levels Yeah, okay, let me here's what I
Speaker 6: will say. While we're on the beach. There are rumors
Speaker 6: that travel around about anything and everything all day every day.
Speaker 6: There's rumors of new people coming, there's rumors of this
Speaker 6: person kissed that person. There's rumors of this person said
Speaker 6: this to that person. If all of us spent all
Speaker 6: of our time taking upon ourselves to go and let
Speaker 6: everyone know about all the rumors about them, A, it
Speaker 6: would cause you're wronglus ninety plus percent of the time.
Speaker 6: First off. Second off, you're focused on your person and
Speaker 6: your connection.
Speaker 12: And so.
Speaker 6: When you hear a rumor about something happening, I was
Speaker 6: hearing twelve plus rumors a day, as was everyone here
Speaker 6: about everyone. So this whole miss or online of it
Speaker 6: being everyone else's responsibility to go and do something, It's
Speaker 6: just like it's a little frustrating to have that responsibility
Speaker 6: thrust upon you when A it's a rumor, when you're
Speaker 6: hearing all these rumors already, and B I'm spending all
Speaker 6: my time getting to know her respectfully to everyone here,
Speaker 6: and I love I hope everyone here has an awesome life.
Speaker 6: I think it takes so much bravery to come on
Speaker 6: a television show. I think It takes so much bravery
Speaker 6: to put yourself in front of millions of people. At
Speaker 6: the end of the day, just here alone, there's sixteen people.
Speaker 6: For twenty four to seven we were filmed. They have
Speaker 6: to capture that in what like fourteen hours. It's sorry,
Speaker 6: twenty four hours of television, all of our stories, everything
Speaker 6: that happened. So it just seems a little unfair to
Speaker 6: thrust that upon anyone.
Speaker 10: Well, I will say I knew about I guess a convert.
Speaker 22: I knew that something happened in an interview room right
Speaker 22: watching it back Jeremy. Unfortunately, if I knew all of
Speaker 22: the things that I saw, then I would have probably
Speaker 22: given you, like maybe twenty four hours before I told Bailey.
Speaker 22: The thing is is that I think a lot of
Speaker 22: us are learning things in real time that we were
Speaker 22: unaware of to the extent, And so it did fall
Speaker 22: on Brian to be the one to tell you based
Speaker 22: on the fact that that was said to him. And
Speaker 22: I don't want to speak for anybody, but I'll say
Speaker 22: for myself, like I only knew about the phone call,
Speaker 22: if that like, and still it was like word of
Speaker 22: mouth where their mouth still didn't know. And I was
Speaker 22: also told that you were aware of it, so that
Speaker 22: it was your responsibility to handle it, right, so if
Speaker 22: I but again, I would never. I never wanted Bailey
Speaker 22: to feel embarrassed, and unfortunately, I think some of the
Speaker 22: things that were said did embarrass her. I understand that
Speaker 22: you guys want to handle your relationship.
Speaker 19: You didn't want her to feel embarrassed.
Speaker 22: Yes, the last thing I wanted was for her to
Speaker 22: like watch it back and feel embarrassed based on what
Speaker 22: was said. But I just didn't know that things were
Speaker 22: said to the way they were.
Speaker 10: And I'm not coming at you.
Speaker 22: I'm just I want to give like because I'm also
Speaker 22: getting a lot of hate online because of it, and
Speaker 22: I don't want to be that I will own it. Like,
Speaker 22: if I knew what I saw after like, I would
Speaker 22: have probably said something to her or at least said
Speaker 22: something to you directly and said this is your responsibility
Speaker 22: to handle and I just didn't know the extent. I
Speaker 22: don't think there was mal intent. I also think you're probably.
Speaker 11: Just whispering around like, oh my god, Bailey knows me.
Speaker 10: This is something for me to talk about. I don't
Speaker 10: know what I don't know what you think. But here's
Speaker 10: the thing.
Speaker 14: I will say this a thousand times. The first person
Speaker 14: that should have told me should have been Jeremy always.
Speaker 14: He should have told me every day of the week.
Speaker 14: I don't like denounce that or anything. I think the
Speaker 14: hard part is, like I know the kind of person
Speaker 14: that I am, and so even when, like when Brian
Speaker 14: sent me the secret rendezvous note, I obviously had every
Speaker 14: single intention that I was going to tell Parsa after
Speaker 14: I had time to process it, because when you're in paradise,
Speaker 14: the only person that you can really trust is your
Speaker 14: I mean like I mean like I trusted my, like
Speaker 14: my who I'm sharing a room with, who is Alex
Speaker 14: and Jeremy. Do you know what I'm saying, So, like
Speaker 14: that's who I'm trusting the most, and I feel like
Speaker 14: that's where I don't know. That's how I processed it.
Speaker 14: I got the note and my first thought was like, oh,
Speaker 14: let me talk to Jeremy about this, because like I
Speaker 14: didn't know what the intention was. I thought it was
Speaker 14: sneaky and it came in a sneaky way. And I've
Speaker 14: told Brian I apologized for that because if I had
Speaker 14: known what was happening, I would have definitely don't I
Speaker 14: still wouldn't have done the secret rendezvous because you don't
Speaker 14: know how things are going to be spun, and I
Speaker 14: wouldn't have felt comfortable with that, but I still would have.
Speaker 14: You know, I wouldn't have talked to Jeremy about.
Speaker 10: It if I would have known it was in a
Speaker 10: sneaky way. I think this is hard.
Speaker 14: I don't blame everyone, and I gave everyone so much
Speaker 14: grace while I was there because I understand it is
Speaker 14: such a tough situation to want to go outside of
Speaker 14: your relationship and have to tell someone something. I also
Speaker 14: know the kind of person I am, so I would
Speaker 14: have done that no matter what for any of my
Speaker 14: friends at any moment. I'm that doesn't matter. It's okay
Speaker 14: that other people wouldn't, and I just I can only
Speaker 14: speak to how I am as a person and what
Speaker 14: I would do. There's obviously moments where you just have
Speaker 14: laps judgment and it's okay. I think the hard part
Speaker 14: for me, at least outside of this, has just been
Speaker 14: certain people's actions after that fact. Because there, I gave
Speaker 14: grace to everyone. I was not mad at the girls.
Speaker 14: I told you guys, I'm not angry with you, and
Speaker 14: the only reason I blamed it on the Girls is
Speaker 14: because I did not want Brian to get under fire
Speaker 14: for it, because Jeremy had no idea it came from Brian. Now, no,
Speaker 14: I think it's hard. You watch it back and you're like,
Speaker 14: I wish my boyfriend told me. I mean, Alex, I
Speaker 14: love you so much, but I wish that my roommate
Speaker 14: and my best friend would have told me, because like
Speaker 14: I left Paradise as Alex is my best friend and
Speaker 14: we're sharing a room every single night together, and I
Speaker 14: know you don't like to be involved in drama, and
Speaker 14: it wouldn't have.
Speaker 10: I don't think it would have had to be a
Speaker 10: whole dramatic.
Speaker 14: Thing, and you know, and I get it, So I'm
Speaker 14: not mad at you about it, obviously, Like Andrew, the
Speaker 14: tweets were. The tweet was what really, honestly, like really
Speaker 14: hurt my feelings because I just gave everyone grace and
Speaker 14: I know it's a difficult to situation, so even outside
Speaker 14: of it, I even knew the hate was going to pass,
Speaker 14: like I process it that night of like watching everything back,
Speaker 14: and I have received so much hate this season.
Speaker 10: It's been really really horrible. And those of my friends
Speaker 10: that have been there.
Speaker 14: For me, know that I have really just been like
Speaker 14: very just keeping to myself because it has been really
Speaker 14: hard to process at all.
Speaker 10: I didn't want to bring.
Speaker 14: Anyone else more hate because I have known what that's like.
Speaker 14: Because also like I received hate on Grant season two,
Speaker 14: so like, obviously I wasn't gonna call Brian any mean
Speaker 14: names he's already getting at that point, he was already
Speaker 14: getting a ton of hate, and I didn't want him
Speaker 14: or pre Sick getting more hate.
Speaker 10: Like I think that's kind of how I tried to
Speaker 10: move with every podcast.
Speaker 14: You do and the things that you say, like all
Speaker 14: of our words unfortunately hold weight, whether we like it
Speaker 14: or not.
Speaker 10: So I think that that's a really it's just it's hard.
Speaker 10: It's really hard.
Speaker 14: And I'm not mad at everyone, I think for me,
Speaker 14: like I wanted to all have each other's backs, and
Speaker 14: that's how I was trying to act. And that's why
Speaker 14: I didn't speak ill about anyone in any moment, even
Speaker 14: when it's like silly to make jokes about other people,
Speaker 14: you know what I mean, Like that wasn't my intention,
Speaker 14: and yeah, and I'm and I wasn't mad at the
Speaker 14: girls in that moment. And I still gave everyone grace,
Speaker 14: and I still give everyone grace now because it obviously
Speaker 14: should have been Jeremy that told me first.
Speaker 10: And that's really all I can All I can say.
Speaker 1: Is, yeah, well some of that someone that's hold on
Speaker 1: someone is getting a lot of heat online, is Alex right, Like,
Speaker 1: so a lot of this is directed towards you looking back,
Speaker 1: would you have done anything differently or how do you
Speaker 1: feel about it now as you look back.
Speaker 9: So I've already owned up to it from the start,
Speaker 9: even before it aired to Bailey, and I apologize multiple times,
Speaker 9: and I should have told you from you know, the
Speaker 9: phone call one thing that you know, I'll say it
Speaker 9: didn't hurt my feelings. You know, I considered you a
Speaker 9: really good friend Jeremy before going in. And when you
Speaker 9: told me about the phone call, you know, you kind
Speaker 9: of said, we've talked about it. It's good and kind
Speaker 9: of like letting you know, to like stay out of
Speaker 9: it type of thing, because you guys never told you
Speaker 9: that they were in front of the island and it
Speaker 9: just said you had just talked to Bailey and you said,
Speaker 9: you know, I've talked to her. I said that you
Speaker 9: should tell her and you said.
Speaker 10: I've I mean, could have the table.
Speaker 19: I might have said like, I'll take care of it,
Speaker 19: but I never said that. I told I talked to
Speaker 19: her about it.
Speaker 9: Not about the phone call, but you said you're talking,
Speaker 9: We're good. That's what I'm saying, So basically kind of like, anyways,
Speaker 9: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 19: I should have told you, yeah, maybe like we're good,
Speaker 19: like I'm going to talk to her about it.
Speaker 4: I never I don't understand, like why she told you
Speaker 4: and you didn't do anything with the information as all saying,
Speaker 4: So if everyone told you, why is it?
Speaker 8: Why is everyone taking flack for something?
Speaker 10: No, I don't think that. I don't think that.
Speaker 4: I just feel like, and here's the thing with the tweet.
Speaker 4: It wasn't directed to bring hate to you. My thing was,
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here with my partner. She's destroyed. I'm not
Speaker 4: going to sit here. Why you had any ample time
Speaker 4: to get on Twitter and be like, hey direct hate
Speaker 4: at me or I don't know my responsibility Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 4: whatever the case. My thing is, you never took accountability.
Speaker 4: You never once apologized to Alex for everything going on,
Speaker 4: reached out. Nobody wanted to be in.
Speaker 8: This situ I'm that sure happy hour, I do not listen.
Speaker 8: I took accountability. Bro, you never talked to her? What
Speaker 8: time did you ever text her?
Speaker 10: One time?
Speaker 8: Dude, I've been getting tens of thousands of.
Speaker 12: You.
Speaker 8: I reached out to you.
Speaker 4: You reached out when you knew you were about apologize
Speaker 4: every week.
Speaker 14: Wait, here's the thing I'm gonna tell you. In Chicago,
Speaker 14: we had the most fun trip to Chicago. So I
Speaker 14: think that's why I was so caught off guard because
Speaker 14: we and Alex I'm going to say this, I didn't
Speaker 14: know that Jeremy was the first person to tell you
Speaker 14: about the call, and so I think that's why it
Speaker 14: threw me off when I watched it back. But in
Speaker 14: regards to us having like apologies and everything, I don't
Speaker 14: want you to catch the flag for it. Obviously you
Speaker 14: called me when you you know you and Andrew called
Speaker 14: me while I was in Portugal when you realize that
Speaker 14: like you were receiving some hate for it.
Speaker 10: But I know I'm not saying that it's bad.
Speaker 1: And what we had.
Speaker 9: Had an air we message every day.
Speaker 10: Like episode we all had a group message and we
Speaker 10: talked about things.
Speaker 9: So I'm just going to say one thing one thing
Speaker 9: that did, and I obviously wanted to I don't want
Speaker 9: to rehash it because I obviously love you. What I
Speaker 9: was going to say is what hurt my feelings is,
Speaker 9: you know, we had talked it out and we you
Speaker 9: guys came to visit us in Chicago, and I thought
Speaker 9: we were good, and it did really was surprising to
Speaker 9: me and caught me off guard that I learned publicly
Speaker 9: that it was brought up again, and it felt like
Speaker 9: the blame was put on me on a podcast, and
Speaker 9: that you didn't care about the phone call, but it
Speaker 9: was more me not telling you, and you're so allowed
Speaker 9: to feel that way, but it just felt like there
Speaker 9: was no accountability towards Jeermy, and that really hurt me
Speaker 9: because I wish that could have been put been said
Speaker 9: privately because we had talked.
Speaker 10: Now I understand.
Speaker 14: All I'm going to say is I said up the
Speaker 14: podcast that Jeremy should have been the first person to
Speaker 14: tell me. I also said on the podcast they asked
Speaker 14: me what I would do in that situation. They didn't
Speaker 14: ask me who I was. Though everyone gets to say
Speaker 14: how they're feeling, I also get to say how I'm feeling.
Speaker 14: The reason that it hurt is because I'm every single
Speaker 14: night looking across from you. I We're sharing so many
Speaker 14: secrets about our life, We're sharing everything, and I just
Speaker 14: thought that you actually had my back the entire time.
Speaker 14: So and that's why it hurt, because I'm watching it back, like, yeah,
Speaker 14: this is my boyfriend, but like at that point, I
Speaker 14: knew him for like ten twelve days, So yeah, I'm
Speaker 14: sorry if that that's why. And even after I left,
Speaker 14: I did, I wasn't even mad about it. I swear
Speaker 14: to God, Like even when I did the Happy Hour past,
Speaker 14: like I said, I wouldn't do that. But I understand
Speaker 14: that people are in difficult situations. People don't want to
Speaker 14: be built, yeah, don't want to be dragging to drama,
Speaker 14: and I totally get that and understand it. I am
Speaker 14: so sorry that everyone had to receive hate. Anyone that
Speaker 14: knows me knows that. Unfortunately, Paradise was not an amazing
Speaker 14: experience for me, and every single day I was not
Speaker 14: in a good mental health headspace, especially after I had
Speaker 14: to send Leslie and Gary home.
Speaker 10: I was just going through it.
Speaker 14: So I understand in the moment, people not acting the things,
Speaker 14: not wanting to act on rumors, and I have never
Speaker 14: blamed anyone for that. Unfortunately, what did hurt is the
Speaker 14: tweet because I was like, I have been wanting to
Speaker 14: protect all of my friends, these people that I've been with,
Speaker 14: these like I don't want them receiving any more hate.
Speaker 14: I know how it feels.
Speaker 10: So I am so publicly because I just felt I
Speaker 10: wasn't trying to I'm not.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even I'm not upset with you at all,
Speaker 4: or I'm not I'm not Like if the tweet wasn't
Speaker 4: at you, my thing was is still.
Speaker 8: Literally at you.
Speaker 20: Like when we were on the show, everybody was going
Speaker 20: after Brian when this all happened.
Speaker 8: Now everyone's after Journey.
Speaker 20: Make it makes sense because you guys watching it, Brian
Speaker 20: and I have.
Speaker 8: A conversation, and you know what the energy was.
Speaker 4: That was not the energy towards you, saying I said,
Speaker 4: if you would have told you man and man, you
Speaker 4: hang out with him, you work out with him, you
Speaker 4: go eat with him, you're always in his room. As
Speaker 4: a guy that feels like that's a friend of mine,
Speaker 4: I would would have loved you to come to me
Speaker 4: and be like, hey, if you don't tell her, I
Speaker 4: will go tell that was a conversation that had with you,
Speaker 4: and I said you should treat prease it better.
Speaker 8: That's all I said to you.
Speaker 7: That was what context.
Speaker 1: Treat her better though, like in what contruct you you were.
Speaker 8: You were angry with and you your way you've verbalized
Speaker 8: and talked to her. I just didn't like you never
Speaker 8: witness it though.
Speaker 1: You can't talk about this situation without talking about Brian,
Speaker 1: and I want to hear your thoughts about this whole situation.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I just think there's a crazy energy shift right
Speaker 16: now in the room. I know that rose ceremony, I
Speaker 16: was the only one targeted. So is my relationship with
Speaker 16: Parisa specifically what Andrew just said, like the way I
Speaker 16: treated her, and like things that were completely taken out
Speaker 16: of context with even like Spencer had spoke to me
Speaker 16: towards the end of the season, like listen, he's like,
Speaker 16: I think a lot of things were taken out of
Speaker 16: context that I might not have actually seen that I
Speaker 16: just heard through rumors, twelve rumors a day, and like
Speaker 16: truthfully that that was the case between us, Like I
Speaker 16: wasn't mistreating her in any other way, Like you know,
Speaker 16: we've had her ups and downs and things like that,
Speaker 16: but that became like a primary focus, and I became
Speaker 16: a primary target when it's being completely taken off of
Speaker 16: everybody who hasn't actually said something to the person that can.
Speaker 10: I just say one more thing.
Speaker 9: So the reason I didn't tell you Bailey's because we,
Speaker 9: me and Jeremy had a friendship outside of this, and
Speaker 9: you had even told me you were very interested in
Speaker 9: Bailey before coming in, so I knew that. And when
Speaker 9: the whole date with Andrew happened, he was very upset, obviously,
Speaker 9: and you came to me and you did say, you know,
Speaker 9: you know me the best, like who should I pick?
Speaker 9: And I said, I don't know Bailey, you know, outside
Speaker 9: of this that much. We weren't really close, but I said,
Speaker 9: I've grown to love her really well, and I think
Speaker 9: you guys would pair really well. And I know you
Speaker 9: were angry the next day when she went on a
Speaker 9: date with him, and I understood that as like, you know,
Speaker 9: maybe your ego was bruise, and I gave you kind
Speaker 9: of grace knowing that you really really liked her and
Speaker 9: you had told me that, so I when you when
Speaker 9: the whole phone call thing, I did tell you to
Speaker 9: tell her, but the reason I didn't tell you was
Speaker 9: because I didn't want to jeopardize something that I thought
Speaker 9: would be really, really well And that's the only reason
Speaker 9: I didn't tell you. If I felt there was any
Speaker 9: vindictive thing or well intent, I would have told you.
Speaker 14: I never yeah, And I never thought that you were
Speaker 14: keeping it from me because of all these random conspiracies
Speaker 14: about whatever about you know about you and it like
Speaker 14: it's not that I and and that's why, honestly, I
Speaker 14: I just wanted everyone to leave this, all of us
Speaker 14: being friends, and that's what I thought we did leave with,
Speaker 14: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 10: And so I'm not mad at you for it.
Speaker 14: I'm so sorry that you receive hate, and I'm sorry
Speaker 14: that we didn't reach out, But I think it's just
Speaker 14: because we've been receiving.
Speaker 10: So much hate.
Speaker 14: It's really just been way too overwhelming for me. Like
Speaker 14: I haven't been able to do like, yeah.
Speaker 10: I haven't been able to.
Speaker 19: Thank you to Dale and to Spencer and Sean and
Speaker 19: lean and Jonathan for reaching out.
Speaker 8: And that's crazy because.
Speaker 14: I did see that, and so I think I was
Speaker 14: just very thrown off obviously by the tweet. And I
Speaker 14: was just like, oh, I was thinking that like we were.
Speaker 10: Good, but I had nothing.
Speaker 14: I didn't and I know I wasn't even with anyway, like,
Speaker 14: and I told you I texted you that morning because
Speaker 14: I was so grateful that you reached out to me,
Speaker 14: and I was so thrown off after getting scented. I
Speaker 14: was like, oh, like maybe I was, like, you know,
Speaker 14: placing so much hold on these friendships and they weren't
Speaker 14: actually like translating, and so I'm sorry. I just wasn't
Speaker 14: in the place to be able to talk to each
Speaker 14: because it really did throw me off because I was
Speaker 14: just like, it does just feel like your world is
Speaker 14: crashing down, and I'm really sorry that people receive hate
Speaker 14: because like I think we can all test to it.
Speaker 14: It's horrible and sometimes people take things way too far.
Speaker 14: And I wanted us to be able to I came
Speaker 14: here and I didn't really.
Speaker 10: Have any bad intent.
Speaker 14: I honestly wasn't even going to talk about it if
Speaker 14: it wasn't going to be brought up, because like, I
Speaker 14: just don't think it's necessary and I don't want you
Speaker 14: guys receiving and I don't want any of anybody receiving hate.
Speaker 10: And it's it's just it's really shitty and.
Speaker 1: I want to get on a word to use, but
Speaker 1: it's a podcast, you can say. I want to get
Speaker 1: some opinion about some opinions from other people, like Alicia.
Speaker 1: It seems like you want to say something about the situation. Well,
Speaker 1: you and Sean I always got something good to say.
Speaker 18: No, I stand by Bailey.
Speaker 19: I think.
Speaker 12: I can vouch for Bailey's character. She's a very genuine person.
Speaker 12: I've been friends with her before this season, and I
Speaker 12: know who I'm looking at when I see her, so
Speaker 12: that's all that I see. And I see Jeremy, the
Speaker 12: guy that I've met who truly loves her. And I
Speaker 12: think like every relationship, it comes to a point where
Speaker 12: you're going to be tested one way or another, and
Speaker 12: this was a very bizarre way for them to be
Speaker 12: put to the test, but I think it's queer. At
Speaker 12: the end of the day, they both tremendously care for
Speaker 12: each other and they have each other's back, And as
Speaker 12: a friend of Bailey, I support her.
Speaker 10: No matter what, and I hope that they're both happy.
Speaker 12: And you guys look like you're killing it, so you
Speaker 12: have my full support, and.
Speaker 14: I feel like I want us all to be able
Speaker 14: to move on from this and not have it like
Speaker 14: looming over our heads. And I'm not mad, you know,
Speaker 14: like I feel like I have to release like any
Speaker 14: hurt or anything on everyone, like you know, it just
Speaker 14: it has to be released so that we can all
Speaker 14: move on from this, because I want it to be
Speaker 14: for something that we can all be connected.
Speaker 10: I want us to all be friends after this. And yeah,
Speaker 10: it's obviously hard.
Speaker 14: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: harder because I have fan questions now, all right?
Speaker 6: Are these fans or the terrible people that sit behind
Speaker 6: a freaking screen?
Speaker 1: This is an Donna Adams at a o L dot com.
Speaker 1: That's my mom. Uh fan question, Brian, did you ever
Speaker 1: have any any other intentions going into the secret rendezvous?
Speaker 1: If you could do it all over again, would you
Speaker 1: still tell Bailey the truth?
Speaker 16: There were no other intentions going into the secret Rendezvous
Speaker 16: and now I stand by what I did.
Speaker 1: And then follow up, why did you take so long
Speaker 1: to be vocal to others about your conversation.
Speaker 16: With Bailey because I knew the repercussions. Unfortunately, I knew
Speaker 16: how the crowd around me would react. Obviously, clearly after
Speaker 16: the viewership's response, their reactions are different, but I knew
Speaker 16: how they would react in the time we were on
Speaker 16: the island, so I was hesitant, but at the same time, again,
Speaker 16: I own what I did.
Speaker 1: This is a fan question kind of for everyone. Why
Speaker 1: was everyone so nervous about Brian doing the same thing
Speaker 1: to them that he did to Jeremy. Were there more
Speaker 1: secrets that people didn't want revealed.
Speaker 21: I don't think that that was a big thing. Like
Speaker 21: Brian was my homie and I'm close with Brian right now.
Speaker 21: Like my thing was because I feel like a lot
Speaker 21: of times I was like, hey, let me know what
Speaker 21: the deal is so we can work it out.
Speaker 7: But it was never about Brian did nothing wrong. I
Speaker 7: was just like, bro, just let me know what the
Speaker 7: deal is so you know I can support you.
Speaker 21: Obviously, Jeremy was my roommate and we had talked about
Speaker 21: the situation and everything, so I didn't think about like
Speaker 21: something that like it would be done to me per se.
Speaker 21: I just it was more probably like, are you like
Speaker 21: if you know I'm in your corner, like, you know,
Speaker 21: just let me know what the deal is. But I
Speaker 21: can understand from his situation too, because it's a hostile environment.
Speaker 21: You don't want to be sent home and then you're
Speaker 21: you're trying to build this relationship. But I don't think
Speaker 21: it was more about like a malicious thing. I was
Speaker 21: just like keeping one hundred with me, you know, if
Speaker 21: I'm your boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel like we could probably do three
Speaker 1: podcasts just on this one thing, but I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it's probably time to move on. Brian back.
Speaker 1: Your nation is dying to know what is your favorite color?
Speaker 1: And why was it so hard for you to let
Speaker 1: Parisa know?
Speaker 15: Yeah, Brian, you.
Speaker 7: Know, Leah helped me out with this today.
Speaker 16: My favorite color is future.
Speaker 12: Color.
Speaker 8: I don't even know what fusia looks like, but that's
Speaker 8: my favorite color.
Speaker 10: He was confused. He was confused.
Speaker 1: Wonderful now, you know, Teresa, Let's talk about your relationship
Speaker 1: with Brian. How did you guys first connect and tell
Speaker 1: us about the beginning days of that relationship.
Speaker 15: When I stepped on that beach, Brian really stood out
Speaker 15: and he was very outgoing, very tall.
Speaker 7: That caught my attention and thanks for the compliment, and.
Speaker 15: Yeah, like I just kind from there, I just wanted
Speaker 15: to get to know him. And I also at that time,
Speaker 15: I liked that I didn't know him. I didn't know
Speaker 15: a lot of people here, so I liked that like
Speaker 15: going in blind, where then I can kind of just
Speaker 15: like fill in the blanks to get to know him
Speaker 15: instead of having like this a bias mindset.
Speaker 1: Now, you guys left together, But what's the relationships at
Speaker 1: us now?
Speaker 15: Well, we tried, and it just came down to, really
Speaker 15: I feel like having different schedules. I think also too,
Speaker 15: I wanted something different in a relationship compared to what
Speaker 15: Brian wanted, and nothing wrong with that. I feel like
Speaker 15: a lot of this comes down to compatibility. That's okay.
Speaker 15: And yeah, I mean we tried, and it just got
Speaker 15: to a point of like, okay, I think we just
Speaker 15: need to like wave our white flag and kind of
Speaker 15: just move on.
Speaker 8: All right.
Speaker 1: So you guys gave it the old college try. It
Speaker 1: didn't work out. But are you guys both single? Like
Speaker 1: what's going on in your lives relationship wise?
Speaker 15: Well, I I'm seeing someone now and and yeah, I
Speaker 15: mean it was, I mean it's it was.
Speaker 10: I don't know, it was the whole process. Everything was
Speaker 10: just so hard.
Speaker 15: It was hard and confusing, and I guess, yeah, I
Speaker 15: mean I reached a point where, I mean, like anybody,
Speaker 15: when you just keep trying and trying, like you just
Speaker 15: you hit that wall and you're like, Okay, well, I
Speaker 15: mean I can keep trying, keep wasting time, and or
Speaker 15: I just just move on. And I mean I'm not
Speaker 15: getting any younger, and neither is he.
Speaker 1: So, Brian, Brian, watching it back, is there anything that
Speaker 1: you wish you would have done differently when it came
Speaker 1: to your relationship with Parisa.
Speaker 16: I think that the vip VIP suite and maybe I
Speaker 16: could answered what my favorite color was.
Speaker 6: I just made one up.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I could have done that. It was a long
Speaker 16: day in feathers man, in that outfit that.
Speaker 15: We were in, which I totally understand, but I will
Speaker 15: say just at the end of the day, like it
Speaker 15: was a long day for all of us. We were
Speaker 15: all hot, all hungry, all in feathers for hours, and yeah,
Speaker 15: I mean that was just a moment that was It
Speaker 15: was tough because like that was a huge thing, especially
Speaker 15: to win. Yeah, when the vip VIP suite is huge,
Speaker 15: and yeah.
Speaker 22: I.
Speaker 7: Had a moment and I did it. Yeah, I will.
Speaker 1: I will say this though I read exactly what went
Speaker 1: down as they've been on camera all day. They were
Speaker 1: told they get to go to a VIP suite, they're
Speaker 1: still filming us, and then you got salty. That's how
Speaker 1: I read it. Yeah, just because I know how the
Speaker 1: sausage is made.
Speaker 16: Like we thought we were actually gonna enjoy Yeah.
Speaker 15: I was just I was hoping that we could just
Speaker 15: we could have adapted to the situation and know, like
Speaker 15: if we could just put a smile on for the
Speaker 15: last you know, ten minutes, then it's like, okay, then
Speaker 15: we we get what we worked hard for and what
Speaker 15: we want and now we can enjoy it. It was
Speaker 15: just a moment of like we're adapting. Would have been
Speaker 15: really nice, but it's but I will, like we are
Speaker 15: all living for the first time. It's okay, this was
Speaker 15: a new experience for all of us. And I want
Speaker 15: to say, like, I don't it was a mistake whatever,
Speaker 15: But I don't want that to ever be held against
Speaker 15: someone and then they are labeled as that forever. And
Speaker 15: it's all that matters is that we look back, we
Speaker 15: recognize things, and then we use that to grow and
Speaker 15: you know, next time, like if any situation like this
Speaker 15: ever happens, it's like okay, like we're going to exhale,
Speaker 15: adapt to it, and just move on.
Speaker 7: And just tell them your favorite color.
Speaker 20: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been the easiest man. All right,
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, that's going to do it. For Part one
Speaker 1: of Bachelor and Paradise Unplugged, make sure to stay tuned.
Speaker 1: Part two of our Pas Paradise reunion will be airing Friday,
Speaker 1: September fifth, and streaming everywhere you get your podcasts.
Speaker 13: You'll see you soon,