1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Wills Adams, 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: and this is Bachelor and Paradise Unplugged. The beach is 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: officially closed the summer, and our cast has returned to 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: hash out some unfinished business. I think we have to 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: start with introductions of all these beautiful people that I 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: had to serve drinks to two fortnights. Let's start with Andrew, Hello, Alex. 7 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: Dale, Spencer, Jess, Jeremy. 8 00:00:53,000 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: Babe, Shiny Boy, Brian Yappy, and the guy who I 9 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 3: think should be the next Golden Back. 10 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: All right, we got to start with the most important thing, 11 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: which is Jeremy, why do you hate old people? The 12 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: most important thing is talking about the two couples who 13 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: ended up winning not only money, but you found love. 14 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Give us the update, Andrew, Alex, what's going on. 15 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 4: Everything's going really well. You know, we've been in hiding 16 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 4: for a while. Uh, the disguises were out, so it 17 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: was great. 18 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 5: You know. 19 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: We we still navigated through, you know, watching the show 20 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 4: and also just kind of like dating outside of the show, 21 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: and I think that was very important to us. I 22 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, go ahead, text all your hoes that 23 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: you had before. 24 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 6: I was no, I'm serious. 25 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 4: I was just like, make sure, just be like, make 26 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 4: sure you let everyone know, like, hey, you know, I'm 27 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pursue something with this guy. And I was like, 28 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: I think that was just the most important thing, just 29 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: like translate paradise into real life, because paradise is, you know, 30 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: it's a bubble. 31 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 7: It's kind of tough. 32 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 8: Like I don't get to wake up in here every day. 33 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 8: She like lives in La I live in Chicago. So yeah, 34 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 8: you want to say, baby, I think you covered it. 35 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been lovely and in that short period of 36 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 9: time that we've had, I feel like I've helped you 37 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 9: grow and You've helped me grow so much and I'm 38 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 9: so thankful for that. Yeah, so it's been doing going 39 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 9: really really well. 40 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: On a personal note, I mean I get to see 41 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: everyone's love story kind of unfold behind the bar, and 42 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I do think that you guys had the cutest story 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of it. 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 10: We didn't pay him. 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: We didn't pay him because it was such a funny, awkward, 46 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: cute like burn and I just got to say, like 47 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: I love you too, don't worry, I'm gonna get to you. 48 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: But like watching your guys love story unfold in front 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: of me was like really really cute, and I'm just 50 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: I just want you guys to know that I'm rooting 51 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: for you. 52 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: The crazy thing was is when we had our chat 53 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: before I decided who was going to go on a 54 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: date with, I remember talking to you and you were like, 55 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,279 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm so awkward, I'm super nervous. 56 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 8: And I'm just like, oh, this is like this is perfect. 57 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 8: Like now I feel like I know who you are. 58 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: You're not like putting up some like guard or trying 59 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 4: to come off your best self like in a different way. 60 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 8: Like it was, but that was super nice. And then 61 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 8: like when we when I. 62 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: Belined to you in the morning and talked about it, 63 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 4: I think I just knew right then and there like 64 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: that's what like I wanted to pursue, and what I 65 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: wanted to do was just kind of be around you 66 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: and like be ourselves and it just felt perfect. 67 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 10: And you wanted a weird girl. 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 8: I do like a weird girl. 69 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: You guys are perfect. Speaking of perfect couples, I mean 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: we got to talk about the Golden Retriever that looks 71 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: like Clark Kent Spencer and Jess. You guys congratulations. You 72 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: want some money and you guys got engaged. How are 73 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: you guys doing I'll let you take this. Can we 74 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: see the ring? You heard it here first of the rings. 75 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 11: So it is getting resized right now. Don't worry, guys, 76 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 11: we are still engaged. No, but we're doing so good. 77 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 11: We have really honestly enjoyed this time of like hiding 78 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 11: and just getting to spend time with each other. It's 79 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 11: obviously hard, you know, staying hidden. There's so many things 80 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 11: we want to do and experience together, but we really 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 11: just try to take this time for what it is, 82 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 11: and we're so excited to get out there in the 83 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 11: real world and go on some dates. We're actually getting 84 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 11: on a red eye flight straight to Tennessee for him 85 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 11: to see my hometown and meet the rest of my 86 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 11: family and the rest of my friends. And it's gonna 87 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 11: be so much fun. Also, spoiler alert, I am moving 88 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 11: to Dallas. 89 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: Everyone. 90 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, so at the beginning of the year, I'm. 91 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 10: Gonna move to Dallas. 92 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 11: We just feel like it's the besting for a future 93 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 11: right now, and we're super excited. 94 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, she has met my whole family. 95 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: We went back. 96 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 6: They have disowned me, mate, they have disowned me and 97 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 6: she is now their daughter, So I'm I'm without family. No, 98 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 6: but I've been able to meet her parents yet because 99 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 6: Irwin is it's a real small town. Small town, we 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 6: got a couple thousand people there, so if we would 101 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 6: have gone there would have been hard to stay under wraps. 102 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 6: So we're going there asap, and you know, it's just 103 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 6: been the best time to people have time just her 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 6: and I. I cannot wait to actually live a normal 105 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 6: life and be able to go on a date. We 106 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 6: haven't been on. 107 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 11: Did the grocery store? Like, we just want to go 108 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 11: to the grocery store and pick out groceries together. 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, grocery store morning, while let's go on a day. 110 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: Let's like actually be able to date normally. I think 111 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 6: is the thing I'm looking most forward to. 112 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: Did you guys ever think that you would find your 113 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: person on some weird, wacky no, Oh my god, wait, this. 114 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 11: Is actually really funny. I had a trip planned with 115 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 11: my boss and some of her girlfriends that I was 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 11: literally I had it planned. I was supposed to leave 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 11: like May twenty second or something. I ran out of close. 118 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 11: I had another trip planned. I didn't think that this 119 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 11: w what ever happened for me in a million years. 120 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 11: And then I met Spencer and he changed my life. 121 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 6: And I'm a romantic in that case scenario the way 122 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 6: in my best case scenario, I was like, yeah, maybe 123 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 6: I meet someone that I can like date outside of 124 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 6: this and we see if we can make something work. 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 6: But then there's always the logistics going on your head 126 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 6: of most likely we're not going to be in the 127 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 6: same city. Uh, Paradise is a little bit of a bubble, 128 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 6: and dating outside of that is differently. And then I 129 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 6: met her, so that all changed. Yeah, it all changed 130 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 6: instantly there. So I knew after the first day I 131 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 6: was either going to spend my whole time Paradise getting 132 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 6: to know her, or I was getting on the flight 133 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 6: back to Dallas. 134 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: So I gotta say okay real quick, just for everyone 135 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: out there watching and listening, I very rarely cry. I 136 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: have a black heart and no soul. But when you 137 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: said I can make more money, but I can't make 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: more Jessica Taylor got me too. It was the line 139 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: of the season. I have to say, well done, dude. 140 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 12: True. 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: Well, let's go through all the other couples, see the 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: other ones that were engaged. Kathy and Keith. Yea, when 143 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: I go on with you guys, I got a ring. 144 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 6: It's just on the wrong hand. 145 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, no ring, no ring. 146 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 9: No. 147 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 5: We're still great friends. I mean, we met each other 148 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 5: back in February an iHeart event there and we became 149 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 5: really good friends there and it just has even grown 150 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 5: much more than it, you know, I mean the experience. 151 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 5: I know, you know, you read all the comments and 152 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: everybody they go, why are they still on it? You know, 153 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: it's for love, and I'm a big batterer and Paradise fan, 154 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 5: and I really believe it's for I'm gonna cry now too, 155 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: and I believe it's for love as well. And so 156 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 5: I knew that we needed to go at some time. 157 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: But I really enjoyed my time with you, Kathy. 158 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 8: We had a great time, and I just want to 159 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 8: say that. 160 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 13: They're at our age. There's different kinds of love. And 161 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 13: I love Keith. He's been such a good friend to 162 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 13: me and we continue to be friends, and we both 163 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 13: are looking for romantic love, but we have each other 164 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 13: as great friends and that's really important too. 165 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 14: Well. 166 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: It was very fun to watch you guys on TV. 167 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 5: I love these couples here. I love you guys. I 168 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: love you guys so much. I mean I talked to 169 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 5: Ale Psyche a lot. I think, out of everybody, I 170 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 5: love you so much, one of your hosy and I want. 171 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: To apologize for the statement I made about you drinking 172 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: all my booze. It was true. 173 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 5: My daughter texted me she watched that show, and my 174 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 5: daughter texts me, she's like, Dad, at least you were 175 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 5: authentic on the show. 176 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Parisa, Brian, what's going on with you? Guys? 177 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 8: I want to start. 178 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 15: It was a good run, you know, it was a 179 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 15: good Yeah, and it's a great experience. 180 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 16: Yeah, that I wouldn't take back. I think life just 181 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 16: kind of gotten away from me running my restaurant. Distance 182 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 16: is tough, but we're still you know, good close. 183 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 7: Friends and. 184 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we'll get back to you. 185 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 6: I know more is coming. 186 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: So Jonathan Lea, what's going on over there? You guys 187 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: still friend zoned each other making tiktoks or what's happening? 188 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 10: Pretty much? 189 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 17: I mean, we were friends before, and I think it 190 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 17: kind of just brought us closer. 191 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, we got to go through. 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 17: Like I told her after we got off, I'm like, 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 17: if I was in that position with anybody, else, I 194 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 17: don't think I would have had half as much fun. 195 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 17: I mean, I think anybody could tell if you guys 196 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 17: know me outside of it, just wasn't loving my time 197 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 17: about halfway through, so when I'm getting there and then 198 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 17: when Leay got there, after we kind of fixed our friendship, 199 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 17: like everything just started to get better and we had 200 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 17: a lot of fun. And then we left the show 201 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 17: on the best terms possible and spend a lot of 202 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 17: time together watch episodes, chat about everything, and. 203 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 8: She's kind of just helped me get through everything, and 204 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 8: I think vice versa. 205 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't have had it any other way. Honestly, 206 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 18: I know I talked all the time about we should 207 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 18: feel in love. I think that everything like really was 208 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 18: meant to happen the way that it did. And I'm 209 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 18: so grateful for Jonathan, And yeah, we're just the best 210 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 18: of friends. We support each other. I help him wingman 211 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 18: his lady, he helps me out, you know, so like 212 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 18: a good dynamic going on here. 213 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I got to say one thing that America 214 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: was robbed of was your interviews. You were the weirdest person. Well, 215 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: if we do on our paradise, hope you come back 216 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: because you deserve to find someone there. 217 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 18: If I'm still single by a year from now. 218 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: Please Sean Alicier, are you guys still hot and heavy? 219 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: What's going on with you guys? 220 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 10: Yeah, well we saw you for the fourth of July. 221 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: Yes, but that was fun. I hosted you at my 222 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: country club. 223 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 12: We definitely love Paradise with a great relationship and continued 224 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 12: it on the outside. We've kind of been faced with 225 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 12: a little bit of distance. I would say, I've had 226 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 12: some opportunities come up in LA and I've pursued them, 227 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 12: and that's something that we've discussed. I'm not willing to 228 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 12: compromise my career goals for a heterosexual man, and Sean 229 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 12: supports that. 230 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 8: So we love each other. 231 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 12: I think we're best of friends and more than anything else, 232 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 12: just the best of teammates, and we respect and care 233 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 12: for one another. 234 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 19: Yeah. 235 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 20: It was a good run. Yeah, but no, everything she 236 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 20: said was correct. I think you know, distance is really tough, obviously, 237 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 20: and you know, when you put it in the grand 238 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 20: scheme of things of like Paradise. We've known each other 239 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 20: for like twenty six days prior to leaving together, and 240 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 20: you know there's certain things within your career, your life 241 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,119 Speaker 20: that you got to take advantage of. I mean, opportunities 242 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 20: don't happen that often, so you know, at the end 243 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 20: of the day, like I have my career, she has 244 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 20: her career, and like it makes it tough with the distance, 245 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 20: but we did walk away with the best of friends. 246 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 7: So very happy to leave Paradise. 247 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: With that nice. Well, I want to take congratulations on 248 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: winning the Masters this year than you. 249 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 8: If you're not first, you'll last. 250 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: So Jeremy Bailey, what's going on with you? Guys? 251 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like, similar to like Alex and Andrew, 252 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 14: we definitely restarted our relationship. I think we were really 253 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 14: happy with the foundation and the things that we really 254 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 14: got to know about each other in Paradise, and I 255 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 14: feel like we've honestly spent so much time with each 256 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 14: other this summer, just traveling back and forth. 257 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 10: We went to Portugal, he met my mom and my 258 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 10: sister over there. 259 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 14: And we traveled around a little bit, and I've been 260 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 14: in New York for majority of the summer. I think 261 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 14: a lot of people that posted spoilers can attest. 262 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 10: To that, So I feel like that's been fun. 263 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 14: We have been trying to do the disguise thing, but 264 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 14: you know, you can only wear a wig so much 265 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 14: before your wig gives out. So I feel like we've 266 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 14: just really loved being with each other every day. And yeah, 267 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 14: we definitely have some exciting plans for later this year. 268 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 14: And yeah, so yeah, I feel like we're in a 269 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 14: really good place and really happy with each other and 270 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 14: meeting families and I feel like that's all you can 271 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 14: really ask for. And friends and he's not all my 272 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 14: best friends. I'm meeting his best friends. So yeah, we're 273 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 14: really happy. 274 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: Well, congratulations she died. Definitely not least we have Dale 275 00:13:58,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: and Kat. How are you guys doing. 276 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 7: We're in a great place. I can say kind of 277 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 7: the same thing you all both said. 278 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 21: Restarted a little bit after paradise, because the biggest thing 279 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 21: is understanding, like lifestyles, I travel a lot and it's 280 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 21: not always the easiest, but you know, my my intent 281 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 21: was early on to make sure that I was spending 282 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 21: as much time in San Diego as I could so 283 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 21: that we could just get a sense of the relationship. 284 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 21: Fast forward, she hasn't met my family or anything yet. 285 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 21: South Dakota is Yeah, it's South Dakota, So you know, 286 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 21: it's stepping off that planer in that airport. But you know, 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 21: I had the the chance to spend time with her family, 288 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 21: which was amazing. And you know, our goal is just 289 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 21: to build this relationship as strong and as tight as possible. 290 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 21: We've talked about all the things, whether it's San Diego, 291 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 21: I mean even recently, Like you know, we're just open. 292 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 21: We want want to be together, we want to do 293 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 21: this the right way. And I think like throughout Paradise, 294 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 21: we we had a very real natural arc of how 295 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 21: relationships go. We had the worries early on, we had 296 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 21: the triggers that popped up. We had the moments where 297 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 21: we had to manage meltdowns, we had to you know, 298 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 21: stand up for our partner. 299 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 7: And never me. We both had meltdowns, that's true, but 300 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 7: you know, deaded and uh the bugs. 301 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 21: But I think that like is a is a beautiful thing. 302 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 21: I think a lot of times on some of these shows, 303 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 21: like people are so afraid to to to just be. 304 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 21: And the thing I love about Kat so much is 305 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 21: that she's messy, she's imperfect, but she's beautiful in every sense. 306 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 7: And like that's not something that like scares me, you know. 307 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 21: And I'm also the same way. It's like Dale and 308 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 21: then Dale comes out I was drinking too much rose. 309 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 21: But I think anyone that you know, it's been on 310 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 21: the show kind of understands, like how I'll ride for 311 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 21: somebody and I know that like Kat will ride for me. 312 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 7: So everything else, like we'll figure out. 313 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 21: We didn't win the prize, but you know, I think 314 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 21: on the challenge side, we still yeah, you know, we're 315 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 21: ten toes down and held it down. 316 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: You know. 317 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 22: Oh he said it all. Georgie approves. My little kitty 318 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 22: approves too, so that's what really matters. Yeah, yeah, No, 319 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 22: he's took it away. He's it's been wonderful. Family's met him, 320 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 22: everything's been really good. 321 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 12: Nice. 322 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Cat, you're not a rookie to Paradise. It's 323 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: your second venture to the beach. I got to get 324 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: your thoughts. One why did you come back? And two 325 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: what'd you think about the new digs. 326 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 22: Well, I will say I was very hesitant coming back 327 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 22: to this because of just you know, it's it's hard 328 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 22: to put yourself back in a situation where it didn't 329 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 22: work out well the first time. So like I was 330 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 22: very hesitant to come back and make myself vulnerable and 331 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 22: all the things. But the opportunity presented itself, and I 332 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 22: said why not. I was in a really good in 333 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 22: my life. I feel a little bit more secure in myself, 334 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 22: and they did promise there was going to be air conditioning, 335 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 22: so I. 336 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 11: That was like my very first question, and I just 337 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 11: kind of I also. 338 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 22: Didn't know anything about anyone. I came in without any 339 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 22: background of anybody, haven't watched, and that's very different than 340 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 22: the time before. So I thought this would be kind 341 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 22: of an opportunity to see where that can go and 342 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 22: just come in like fresh, and if it didn't work out, 343 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 22: I could always leave, So I had the autonomy to 344 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 22: do that and just wanted to see what was going 345 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 22: to happen. And as far as the setup, it's so 346 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 22: much better. I actually at one point said I felt 347 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 22: like cars on vacation, which is crazy because it's still 348 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 22: in the tropics and I don't vacation in the tropics. 349 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 22: And so it was just overall and I think the 350 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 22: cast in general everyone was just very like, honestly, probably 351 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 22: the most authentic I've been around, and that makes it 352 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 22: such a more real experience and that's when you can 353 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 22: form like real relationships. 354 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 7: So it was great. 355 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: Nice Hey Vachelination. I got a date card for you 356 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: on the ultimate group day. Join me and our newly 357 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: engaged couple here Jess and Spencer, Jesse, Hannah and so 358 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: many more for the first ever Bachelor Nation vacation at sea. 359 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: You won't want to miss the onboard cocktail parties that 360 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: I'll be hosting, hot tubs, panels, screenings, and events. It's 361 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: all at sea too. Sign up to be among the 362 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: first to book your cabin at Bachelor Nation Vacation at 363 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: c dot com. We'll see you there. 364 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 14: Well. 365 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: Obviously things were a lot different this paradise. All of 366 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: a sudden, money was involved in these challenges as well, Jess. 367 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: I was wondering what your thoughts of the challenges were 368 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: in their relationship tests. 369 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 12: Yeah. 370 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 11: Honestly, it's funny because I see the comments online and 371 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 11: people are like, oh, these challenges suck, weh blah. 372 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: But I enjoyed them. 373 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 11: I thought they were really good for our relationship. There's 374 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 11: only so many things that you can talk about in 375 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 11: scenarios you can kind of make up in your head. 376 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 11: Whereas we were kind of actually put to the test. 377 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 11: We got to learn things about each other that maybe 378 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 11: we wouldn't learn until way later down the road. 379 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: We got to see how. 380 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 11: Each of us you know, handle conflict, handle losing, which 381 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 11: was at times it was tough, you know, okay with it? Yeah, No, 382 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 11: I love the challenges. I thought that it brought us 383 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 11: closer together together, and it gave us an opportunity to 384 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 11: just like work as a team. 385 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, all second everything the beautiful woman's my loft set. 386 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: You guys are already married, my father in law and 387 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: our wedding said. The only two words you need to 388 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: remember are yes and dear. 389 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 6: I will say, I can't imagine our relationship being where 390 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 6: it is right now if we have just been sitting 391 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 6: on a beach for a month. You know, the fact 392 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 6: that we had these challenges that did bring up, you know, 393 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 6: potential conflict scenarios of where you might see yourself in 394 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 6: the future, what you're looking for in a relationship that 395 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 6: would last outside of paradise. And yeah, I think the 396 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 6: competitions were overall a huge plus. 397 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: Dale, What did you think do you like the competitions? 398 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 21: I I I like the competition. I mean taking an 399 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 21: l was was definitely hard. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but 400 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 21: I think the competitions were were great. Honestly, because at 401 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 21: that stage, I think everyone had formed you know, for 402 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 21: the most part, just because some people were kind of 403 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 21: forced into a situation where they might not have had 404 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 21: the romantic connection, but they still had to find common 405 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 21: ground and really like dig deeper into their partner. 406 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, whatever, grow up. 407 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 12: Yeah. 408 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 21: But for for for those who like had that that connection, 409 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 21: it really really you to get uncomfortable and put yourself 410 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 21: aside and like give everything that you had. Like I 411 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 21: know that for me personally, the money was an incentive, 412 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 21: but I was like, at the end of the day, 413 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 21: I didn't give a fuck about the money. I cared 414 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 21: about coming through for Kat and like from a financial standpoint, like, yeah, 415 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 21: it's an incentive for the relationship, but I feel like 416 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 21: most people the focus, you know, was their partner. 417 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 7: And I don't know, like that's that's just my my take. 418 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 7: But yeah, I think it was. 419 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 10: It was fun. 420 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was fun. 421 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I wasn't sure if it 422 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: was going to be a successful endeavor, But now watching 423 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: it back and experiencing it and then seeing all the 424 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: successful couples that came out of this season, I actually 425 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: do think it was actually really helpful. So I hope that, 426 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: like it's something that we continue doing because you want 427 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: to see what your partner does in times of stress 428 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: or or how they take a loss and all that 429 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. It's important and I think it was 430 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: really cool. 431 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 5: You know. 432 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: The last thing that was kind of big and different 433 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: about this season was the advent of the Goldens coming 434 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: in at Bailey, and it seems so I mean, I 435 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: think that the Goldens had an impact on everyone, but 436 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: it seemed like Bailey for you, you really were kind 437 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: of impacted by the Goldens being there, and I wanted 438 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: to get your take on them being there. 439 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 14: I absolutely adored having the Goldens there. It honestly just 440 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 14: like felt like my parents were there. So I feel 441 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 14: like I just got to kind of like, I don't know, 442 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 14: it's like hard when you're processing all these things and 443 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 14: then like there's Cockroad just calling up your legs and 444 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 14: you're like, how am I supposed to send people home? 445 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 14: I don't know, There's a lot, you know, there's a 446 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 14: lot to process, and I feel like I really enjoyed 447 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 14: having all the Goldens there because it just felt like 448 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 14: my mom and my dad were there, and I just 449 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 14: was able to like be with them and get advice 450 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 14: from them and. 451 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 10: Laugh and not feel stressful. 452 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 14: And I like would love when Kathy would like do 453 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 14: these random quizzes with us and it was like take 454 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 14: all of our minds off of everything. She'd be like, 455 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 14: would you rather have a shark but your toe or like, 456 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 14: I don't know. So I feel like having the Golden 457 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 14: there really positively impacted my experience and I probably would 458 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 14: have gone home earlier just from like mental stress. And 459 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 14: I loved the challenges. I think it was really important 460 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 14: for all of our relationships. But I think the environment 461 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 14: is a really stressful environment and you're processing a lot 462 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 14: and you're not always in the best headspace, and so 463 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 14: I feel like for me, at least, having the goldens 464 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 14: there was really necessary. And I kind of feel like 465 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 14: they should get their own paradise. 466 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: Or I don't disagree with that Golden there listen like 467 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: the challenges. I wasn't really sure how this is all 468 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna work and what it was going to look like. 469 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: But as someone who was there the day that you 470 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: guys all showed up, you guys were such a vibe change. Yeah, 471 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: like we need and it's so weird that, like you 472 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: think that the youngs would be the ones bringing all 473 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: the energy in. It was all the Goldens who really 474 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: like injected the beach with so much energy. And I'm 475 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: just so thankful that you guys showed up. 476 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 6: Could I say something about I would also like to 477 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 6: say that whenever Keith or Kathy or any of the 478 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 6: Goldens gave us their perspective on things happening, whether it 479 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 6: be within our relationship, paradise as a whole, especially with 480 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 6: both Keith and Kathy forming this beautiful friendship. I know 481 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 6: for all the romantic couples, she was my focus whenever 482 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 6: she was around, which is no secret to anyone here, 483 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 6: And it was like that for a lot of for 484 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 6: all the romantic couples. Right, You're trying to build this 485 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 6: relationship here, and both Keith and Cathy got to see 486 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 6: everything from the outside, and they got to see it 487 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 6: with an eye that has experienced so much more life 488 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 6: than any of us. So whenever Keith or Kathy said anything, 489 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 6: and whenever they say anything, I hold it with a 490 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 6: lot more gravity. And I love them very much, and 491 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 6: I'm so beyond grateful your makeup. 492 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 13: And it's just when you get to be our age, 493 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 13: you realize how important relationships are and the little things 494 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 13: don't matter. 495 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 6: And you have to get to be our age. 496 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 13: To know how important people are. And that's why on 497 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 13: the show, when Keith and I said we didn't care 498 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 13: about the money, we didn't because at our Age, it's 499 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 13: it's a connection with you, guys. It's a connection with 500 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 13: people that matter. And seeing your happiness it made my year. 501 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 5: I also want to say, no, it's I just want 502 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: to thank all of you for welcoming us as well. 503 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Jeremy didn't like us in the beginning. 504 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 5: I'm joking. I'm totally joking. 505 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 8: I'm not joking. 506 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 13: And Jeremy are fighting, but tears are over now I'm 507 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 13: coming after you. So I gave you a chance last night, 508 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 13: Jeremy to tell me how much you love me. 509 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 8: No, what does Jeremy say? 510 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 13: I didn't want the Golden to home. I just hated 511 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 13: the Golden Jeremy. 512 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 4: Say that. 513 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: I didn't like them at first. 514 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 8: Yes, how much do you love me? 515 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 13: Jeremy put it publicly. 516 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 22: I think it's. 517 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 14: Important to know that me, Kathy and Jeremy are all tauruses. 518 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 14: So we are incredibly suborned and. 519 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,719 Speaker 10: Honestly down this hill. 520 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 13: But here's something I will back down because I have 521 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 13: agent wisdom. I am so happy to see you guys 522 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 13: in love. 523 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 10: That we have some young and transferring over. 524 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm happy for you guys. 525 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: That's what matters. 526 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 5: No, I just want to Fish. I just want to 527 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 5: thank you for accepting us in here, because you didn't 528 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 5: have to do that at all, and you know, you 529 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 5: allowed us to be us. And I keep in touch 530 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 5: with a lot of your people in here, and I 531 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 5: have new friends and yeah, yeah, I actually yeah, but Cat. 532 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 5: I saw Cat at stage coach before even the show, 533 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 5: but she gave me cred. I walk in and I 534 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 5: don't know who came up like, Oh, you're the dude 535 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 5: that saw You're the dude that was at t Pain. 536 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 10: I was like, oh my god. 537 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 11: Cat said she met you at tea Pain and you 538 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 11: were like. 539 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 5: I was like, you seemed like for the day. 540 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick, Dale, can you explain to me what dead. 541 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 7: It is and what it means what it ended? Ceased 542 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 7: to exist? 543 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 15: Uh? 544 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 21: No, longer in existence, finish. I've been like hearing that 545 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 21: for like ten plus years. New York people all over 546 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 21: know know the thing. Locker rooms people knew, knew it also, 547 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 21: you know, the rose probably brought a little. 548 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Vocabulary Oh you're blaming me now. 549 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 7: Both. But yeah, that was just a moment where I 550 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 7: was feeling probably a little too good. But dude, I 551 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 7: was like pulling up the chair thinking like we're gonna 552 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 7: have this like deep roman, I was like, where's this 553 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 7: come from? 554 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 21: But the reality is, like, you know, in this environment, 555 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 21: in these stages, you're like you go into these situations 556 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 21: thinking you know how you're gonna handle everything. But the 557 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 21: reality is, especially when feelings are involved, certain triggers and 558 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 21: certain things can affect you and the other person may 559 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 21: have done nothing wrong or had no. 560 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 7: Context or anything. 561 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 21: And I've said this to Kat before, you know, in 562 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 21: that moment, I thought it was a really great thing 563 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 21: for us because it was a realization for me that, like, 564 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 21: the reality is, I cared for all my friends and 565 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 21: everything on the beach, but no one could affect me 566 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 21: in the way that Kat could have. 567 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 7: And she didn't even have to, like she didn't even try. 568 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 21: It was just like, because I cared so much about 569 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 21: us being good and whatever trigger came up and wherever 570 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 21: that came from, that was an indication to me that like, okay, 571 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 21: a I was wrong with how I handled the situation, 572 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 21: a difference in communications versus like timing and emotions. 573 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 7: But after the fact, we. 574 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 21: Moved through it very very quickly and it was a 575 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 21: big moment for me. And honestly, I stand by whatever 576 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 21: I'll say. 577 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 22: I accidentally used it in my vocabulary like way too often. 578 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 22: I think I said it on the phone the other 579 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 22: day and my girlfriend was like. 580 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 23: What did you just say? 581 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: Why are you saying that? I was like, I don't 582 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: even know. 583 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 10: It's like it's like a thing. 584 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 7: Now in New York. That's a thing. 585 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 22: But I will say, like if anyone understands like being 586 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 22: triggered or defensive in that environment, it's definitely me. So 587 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 22: I definitely feel like I understood where something's happen. It 588 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 22: always comes back to like how you move through it afterwards, 589 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 22: and I think, yeah, it shows you about people. 590 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, if you do good. 591 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: Way Bailey and Jeremy. Obviously, timelines are important but hard 592 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: to kind of like adequately represent on a TV show 593 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: that's a lot of stuff's happening in the very short 594 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: windows of broadcast time. I wanted to get your guys' 595 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 1: thoughts on kind of like when did the connection start, 596 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: How are you guys feeling in the beginning of your relationship. 597 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 23: Yeah, I think the connection started on the first day. 598 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 23: You know, we kind of just sat next to each 599 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 23: other as a couch like this and started chatting and 600 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 23: we hit things off and things were still new, and 601 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 23: it really just developed for you know, a long time. 602 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 23: Obviously we both went on other dates and something's happening 603 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 23: between and by the time the composition, like we were 604 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 23: pretty locked in on each other, and like Jess was. 605 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 19: Saying, the challenges and stuff really helped and really just 606 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 19: helped develop our relationship and we were at a really 607 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 19: strong point to the point where, like, you know, I 608 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 19: asked her would be my girlfriend before I left, which 609 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 19: I would not have done unless I meant it, And 610 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 19: it just gave us like a fresh opportunity just like 611 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 19: really like talk things over and start fresh after paradise 612 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 19: and see where things headed. And to you know, my surprise, 613 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 19: they were even better when when you left a beautiful beach. 614 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like. 615 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 14: In the beginning we were also trying to just like 616 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 14: suss out you know, you're you're just processing so many 617 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 14: things and you're also just like you you don't want 618 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 14: to lock in like on the first, you know, first night, 619 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 14: because you're just like, what's about to happen? 620 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 10: Who's coming in? But I feel like we both did 621 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 10: a really good job of constantly like choosing each other. 622 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 14: Wait, that was not sorry, it was I feel like 623 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 14: for us, like I didn't want to leave Paradise with 624 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 14: any regrets, and I wanted to make sure that, like 625 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 14: the whole point of Paradise is that you experienced so. 626 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 10: Many things that you wouldn't normally do in the outside world. 627 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 14: And I feel like, normally we're both very much people 628 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 14: that just like you're clocked in on one person, and 629 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 14: that's just how we both normally date. And I feel like, 630 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 14: at least for us and for me at least, I 631 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 14: really wanted to make sure that, like, as long as 632 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 14: I kept wanting to choose Jeremy after I think that 633 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 14: was the most important thing of like figuring that out. 634 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 14: And then obviously after like three or four weeks paradise time, 635 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 14: which is like I don't know, seven days after three 636 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 14: or four weeks, and you're like, okay, you know, like 637 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 14: I did a normal week time of all of this, 638 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 14: and I feel like I still know how my feelings 639 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 14: are and I still feel I still know where I'm 640 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 14: feeling drawn to, and I think that's kind of at 641 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 14: least what those That's what I was going for, Like 642 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 14: I wanted to go to whoever I was drawn to 643 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 14: the most, and every single time that was Jeremy for me, 644 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 14: and so I feel like that's what helped further our connection. 645 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 10: And then I think going on our one on one. 646 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 14: Date, I think everyone can say when you finally get 647 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 14: to go on a one on one date, you're like, oh, 648 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 14: this just like when you go on that date with 649 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 14: your person, You're like, I feel like our relationship really 650 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 14: got to. 651 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 10: Go over all those hills that we were. 652 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 14: Kind of battling also, so I feel like that was 653 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 14: I think the night that we both really felt like 654 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 14: we really locked in at that moment and obviously went 655 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 14: in the competition. The first challenge was really important too. 656 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 14: It just showed how much stupid knowledge we knew about 657 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 14: each other, and then from there we were able to 658 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 14: just really get deep on our date, and I feel 659 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 14: like that. 660 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 10: Was really important. 661 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 14: Those are important conversations that we need to have with 662 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 14: each other, because yeah, it's kind of like what Jessa 663 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 14: is saying, like, you know, you can only talk about 664 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 14: so many things, and sometimes it's hard to get deep 665 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 14: at first, and so yeah, I feel like that was 666 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 14: a really big turning point for us. 667 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: Looking for the ultimate coastal getaway. 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Whether you're chasing relaxation 675 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: or adventure, the Fino Hotel and Marina is your waterfront escape. 676 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: You know a thing that I always talk to fans 677 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 1: about is I think that everyone needs to give everyone 678 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: that comes on the shows a little bit of grace 679 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: because you're really exposing yourself to millions of people and 680 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: their judgments and probably the most for YouTube from this 681 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: last season, and I imagine that navigating a relationship post 682 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: show was tough with the online chatter and fans being 683 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: upset with things that happened, and I wanted to get 684 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: your guys' take on how you're able to navigate kind 685 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: of post show up until now. 686 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was tough. 687 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, listen, Like I've made some stupid mistakes 688 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 19: that me and her have obviously talked about a million 689 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 19: times during the show before it aired, walad aired that 690 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 19: you know, I wish I could take some of them back, 691 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 19: and unfortunately, like that's how you're judged. And at the 692 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 19: end of the day, like you know, we're pretty thick skin, 693 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 19: and we know what we have. We know what we 694 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 19: had on the show, we know what we've had since 695 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 19: everyone who knows us here knows what we have, and 696 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 19: we just try not to let people get to us. 697 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 19: And like obviously, you know, I wish that I'm not 698 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 19: judged off of you know a few minutes, Yeah, where 699 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 19: I acted like a child in front of tens of 700 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 19: millions of people. But I need to live with that, 701 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 19: and you know, it's something that we've talked about and 702 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 19: I'm just happy that I have her, and that weren't 703 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,479 Speaker 19: a good place. 704 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: Let's go back to that kind of infamous phone call situation. Listen, 705 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: I think that everyone out there needs to have a 706 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: little bit of empathy because a lot of things were 707 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: happening at that moment, and I know that, like in 708 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: that interview, you were upset because of Bailey going on 709 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: a date with Andrew, So put us in time and 710 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 1: place and like what was going through your mind and 711 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: through your heart. 712 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 19: Yeah, obviously, like looking back and watching the show back, 713 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 19: I shouldn't have been upset because I did go on 714 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 19: a day like a day before. I think the reason 715 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 19: why I was initially like really annoyed was that, you know, 716 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 19: she kind of said that she was here for me, 717 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 19: and in my mind it wasn't like, oh, I'm here 718 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 19: for you until someone else comes in. But like, looking 719 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 19: back on it, I'm like, if I should go on 720 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 19: a date, like she should be allowed to go on 721 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 19: a date too, And I'd gone. I'd known Bailey for 722 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 19: only a few days at that point. I went on 723 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 19: a good date with the other girl and. 724 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 8: And and I did have a good time. 725 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 19: So it was just like a tough decision. And then 726 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 19: like when you hear stuff like that, and then I 727 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 19: feel I felt like in the moment, obviously we've talked 728 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 19: about it, In the moment, I felt betrayed. And then 729 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 19: that kind of just like sticks in the back of 730 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 19: your head. So then even like when when she came 731 00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 19: back and chose me, it was still like in my 732 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 19: mind for a few days after that. 733 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: And Bailey, for you watching it back, it's got to 734 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: be tough. And I remember being in your guys issues 735 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: having to watch back hard moments for you. What was 736 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: going through your mind when you're having to watch a 737 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: show back. 738 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like, and I've said this a few times, 739 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 14: like it was really hard to watch this entire season back. Honestly, 740 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 14: I feel like in the moment of Paradise, I gave 741 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 14: so much grace because I totally understand. I think it's 742 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 14: a really difficult space to be in, and it's still 743 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 14: difficult to watch it back, But I also understand where 744 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 14: everyone's minds are. I think it's really easy to feel insecure. 745 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 14: I think it's really easy to doubt things. I think 746 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 14: it's really easy to feel stressed. I think there's just 747 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 14: so many emotions that you're processing, and unfortunately you don't 748 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 14: have a phone like to desensitize you or to you know, 749 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 14: distract you from anything. Like you really have to go 750 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 14: head on with all of your emotions and everything that 751 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 14: you're feeling, and the comments are hard to watch because 752 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 14: I think most people that are starting their relationship don't 753 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 14: have to watch it back from the beginning and see 754 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 14: their partner having those moments of doubt or you know, 755 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 14: still juggling different people, and that's kind of how normal 756 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 14: relationships work, Like when you start talking to somebody, you 757 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 14: don't know that they're not talking to other people. And 758 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 14: I think it's really easy to just want Paradise to 759 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 14: feel like these amazing, beautiful love stories that are like unicorns, 760 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 14: but like that, like they're unicorns, you know what I'm saying, 761 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 14: Like it is, and so I feel like for us 762 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 14: coming out of it, it did just feel like kind 763 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 14: of we got through a lot of the challenges that 764 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 14: normal relationships would face in the beginning, and I think 765 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 14: that's kind of how we've processed a lot of those moments. 766 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 14: And obviously I wasn't caught off guard by much. 767 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 10: We had a lot. 768 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 14: We've had so many deep conversations about anything, about everything 769 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 14: that was said and just everything that we went through, 770 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 14: and so it's still hard to watch those things because 771 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 14: you know, like where we are now and how in 772 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 14: love we are. It's like you have those moments where 773 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 14: you're just like sad that that happened. But I also 774 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 14: feel like that was just such a small part of 775 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 14: our story and it's not like what sticks in the 776 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 14: back of my head every day. 777 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 19: That makes yeah, And I will say that, like one 778 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 19: thing that I definitely wish I would have changed is 779 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 19: like when I was like just like talking out my ass, 780 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 19: which I do a lot, I wasn't. I wasn't doing 781 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 19: it in the headspace like, oh, you know, if Bailey 782 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 19: and I are together, like I should be way more 783 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 19: thoughtful of like what she thinks watching this back. It 784 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 19: was kind of selfish and I was just like living 785 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 19: in the moment and it was still in the beginning, 786 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 19: so I had no idea that we would actually be together. 787 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 19: And unfortunately, like that is what our story was made. 788 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,280 Speaker 19: And I couldn't be happier for you know, justin Spencer 789 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 19: and Alex and Andrew, but to our credit as well, 790 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 19: we had a great love story. And because of like 791 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 19: a few days of things that happened, it really like 792 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 19: overtook everything. And I think that was the hardest part 793 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 19: for us, which was really you know, tough for both 794 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 19: of us, but especially Bailey. Is that we had this 795 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 19: amazing love story that like I never thought i'd find 796 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 19: someone on the beach, she never thought she would, and 797 00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 19: no one really got to see that. 798 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 21: Yeah, I agree with that because I was Jeremy's roommate 799 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 21: and you know, regardless of what was going on, Even 800 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 21: watching it back, you know, there's so many conversations that 801 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 21: happened in the night, and but even just the way 802 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,359 Speaker 21: how affectionate he was with her, and you know, there 803 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,919 Speaker 21: was no doubt that you know, they loved and cared 804 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 21: for each other. And uh, you know, so even just 805 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 21: as a friend and someone else going through the experience 806 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 21: and watching it back, it was very very hard for me, 807 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 21: and I think, you know, there's a lot of situations 808 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 21: within you know, the show that you didn't get to 809 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 21: see some of those moments, but they were down for 810 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 21: each other, you know, with without question. 811 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: I got to ask, like, what do you think would 812 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: have happened if Susie had come back? 813 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 19: I probably would have been like, oh fuck, yeah, what 814 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 19: did I do? 815 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: By show of hands? Because this is a question that 816 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: gets asked a lot online is who knew about this 817 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: whole thing before Bailey did? 818 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 14: Well? 819 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 6: There was levels Yeah, okay, let me here's what I 820 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 6: will say. While we're on the beach. There are rumors 821 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 6: that travel around about anything and everything all day every day. 822 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 6: There's rumors of new people coming, there's rumors of this 823 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,919 Speaker 6: person kissed that person. There's rumors of this person said 824 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 6: this to that person. If all of us spent all 825 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 6: of our time taking upon ourselves to go and let 826 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 6: everyone know about all the rumors about them, A, it 827 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 6: would cause you're wronglus ninety plus percent of the time. 828 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 6: First off. Second off, you're focused on your person and 829 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 6: your connection. 830 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 12: And so. 831 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 6: When you hear a rumor about something happening, I was 832 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 6: hearing twelve plus rumors a day, as was everyone here 833 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 6: about everyone. So this whole miss or online of it 834 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 6: being everyone else's responsibility to go and do something, It's 835 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 6: just like it's a little frustrating to have that responsibility 836 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 6: thrust upon you when A it's a rumor, when you're 837 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 6: hearing all these rumors already, and B I'm spending all 838 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 6: my time getting to know her respectfully to everyone here, 839 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 6: and I love I hope everyone here has an awesome life. 840 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 6: I think it takes so much bravery to come on 841 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,280 Speaker 6: a television show. I think It takes so much bravery 842 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 6: to put yourself in front of millions of people. At 843 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 6: the end of the day, just here alone, there's sixteen people. 844 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 6: For twenty four to seven we were filmed. They have 845 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 6: to capture that in what like fourteen hours. It's sorry, 846 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 6: twenty four hours of television, all of our stories, everything 847 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 6: that happened. So it just seems a little unfair to 848 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 6: thrust that upon anyone. 849 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 10: Well, I will say I knew about I guess a convert. 850 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 22: I knew that something happened in an interview room right 851 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 22: watching it back Jeremy. Unfortunately, if I knew all of 852 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,320 Speaker 22: the things that I saw, then I would have probably 853 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 22: given you, like maybe twenty four hours before I told Bailey. 854 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 22: The thing is is that I think a lot of 855 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 22: us are learning things in real time that we were 856 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 22: unaware of to the extent, And so it did fall 857 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 22: on Brian to be the one to tell you based 858 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 22: on the fact that that was said to him. And 859 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 22: I don't want to speak for anybody, but I'll say 860 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 22: for myself, like I only knew about the phone call, 861 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 22: if that like, and still it was like word of 862 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 22: mouth where their mouth still didn't know. And I was 863 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 22: also told that you were aware of it, so that 864 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 22: it was your responsibility to handle it, right, so if 865 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 22: I but again, I would never. I never wanted Bailey 866 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 22: to feel embarrassed, and unfortunately, I think some of the 867 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 22: things that were said did embarrass her. I understand that 868 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 22: you guys want to handle your relationship. 869 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 19: You didn't want her to feel embarrassed. 870 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 22: Yes, the last thing I wanted was for her to 871 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 22: like watch it back and feel embarrassed based on what 872 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 22: was said. But I just didn't know that things were 873 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 22: said to the way they were. 874 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 10: And I'm not coming at you. 875 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,359 Speaker 22: I'm just I want to give like because I'm also 876 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 22: getting a lot of hate online because of it, and 877 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 22: I don't want to be that I will own it. Like, 878 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 22: if I knew what I saw after like, I would 879 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 22: have probably said something to her or at least said 880 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 22: something to you directly and said this is your responsibility 881 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 22: to handle and I just didn't know the extent. I 882 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 22: don't think there was mal intent. I also think you're probably. 883 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 11: Just whispering around like, oh my god, Bailey knows me. 884 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 10: This is something for me to talk about. I don't 885 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 10: know what I don't know what you think. But here's 886 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 10: the thing. 887 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 14: I will say this a thousand times. The first person 888 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 14: that should have told me should have been Jeremy always. 889 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 14: He should have told me every day of the week. 890 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 14: I don't like denounce that or anything. I think the 891 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 14: hard part is, like I know the kind of person 892 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 14: that I am, and so even when, like when Brian 893 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,399 Speaker 14: sent me the secret rendezvous note, I obviously had every 894 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 14: single intention that I was going to tell Parsa after 895 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 14: I had time to process it, because when you're in paradise, 896 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 14: the only person that you can really trust is your 897 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 14: I mean like I mean like I trusted my, like 898 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 14: my who I'm sharing a room with, who is Alex 899 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 14: and Jeremy. Do you know what I'm saying, So, like 900 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 14: that's who I'm trusting the most, and I feel like 901 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 14: that's where I don't know. That's how I processed it. 902 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 14: I got the note and my first thought was like, oh, 903 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 14: let me talk to Jeremy about this, because like I 904 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 14: didn't know what the intention was. I thought it was 905 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 14: sneaky and it came in a sneaky way. And I've 906 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 14: told Brian I apologized for that because if I had 907 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 14: known what was happening, I would have definitely don't I 908 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 14: still wouldn't have done the secret rendezvous because you don't 909 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 14: know how things are going to be spun, and I 910 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 14: wouldn't have felt comfortable with that, but I still would have. 911 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 14: You know, I wouldn't have talked to Jeremy about. 912 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:29,800 Speaker 10: It if I would have known it was in a 913 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 10: sneaky way. I think this is hard. 914 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 14: I don't blame everyone, and I gave everyone so much 915 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 14: grace while I was there because I understand it is 916 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 14: such a tough situation to want to go outside of 917 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 14: your relationship and have to tell someone something. I also 918 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,479 Speaker 14: know the kind of person I am, so I would 919 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 14: have done that no matter what for any of my 920 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,959 Speaker 14: friends at any moment. I'm that doesn't matter. It's okay 921 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 14: that other people wouldn't, and I just I can only 922 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,800 Speaker 14: speak to how I am as a person and what 923 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 14: I would do. There's obviously moments where you just have 924 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 14: laps judgment and it's okay. I think the hard part 925 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 14: for me, at least outside of this, has just been 926 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 14: certain people's actions after that fact. Because there, I gave 927 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 14: grace to everyone. I was not mad at the girls. 928 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 14: I told you guys, I'm not angry with you, and 929 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 14: the only reason I blamed it on the Girls is 930 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 14: because I did not want Brian to get under fire 931 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 14: for it, because Jeremy had no idea it came from Brian. Now, no, 932 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 14: I think it's hard. You watch it back and you're like, 933 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 14: I wish my boyfriend told me. I mean, Alex, I 934 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 14: love you so much, but I wish that my roommate 935 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 14: and my best friend would have told me, because like 936 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 14: I left Paradise as Alex is my best friend and 937 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 14: we're sharing a room every single night together, and I 938 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 14: know you don't like to be involved in drama, and 939 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 14: it wouldn't have. 940 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 10: I don't think it would have had to be a 941 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 10: whole dramatic. 942 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 14: Thing, and you know, and I get it, So I'm 943 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 14: not mad at you about it, obviously, Like Andrew, the 944 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 14: tweets were. The tweet was what really, honestly, like really 945 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 14: hurt my feelings because I just gave everyone grace and 946 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 14: I know it's a difficult to situation, so even outside 947 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 14: of it, I even knew the hate was going to pass, 948 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 14: like I process it that night of like watching everything back, 949 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 14: and I have received so much hate this season. 950 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 10: It's been really really horrible. And those of my friends 951 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 10: that have been there. 952 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 14: For me, know that I have really just been like 953 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 14: very just keeping to myself because it has been really 954 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 14: hard to process at all. 955 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 10: I didn't want to bring. 956 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 14: Anyone else more hate because I have known what that's like. 957 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 14: Because also like I received hate on Grant season two, 958 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 14: so like, obviously I wasn't gonna call Brian any mean 959 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,520 Speaker 14: names he's already getting at that point, he was already 960 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 14: getting a ton of hate, and I didn't want him 961 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 14: or pre Sick getting more hate. 962 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 10: Like I think that's kind of how I tried to 963 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 10: move with every podcast. 964 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 14: You do and the things that you say, like all 965 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 14: of our words unfortunately hold weight, whether we like it 966 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 14: or not. 967 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 10: So I think that that's a really it's just it's hard. 968 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 10: It's really hard. 969 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 14: And I'm not mad at everyone, I think for me, 970 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 14: like I wanted to all have each other's backs, and 971 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,399 Speaker 14: that's how I was trying to act. And that's why 972 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 14: I didn't speak ill about anyone in any moment, even 973 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 14: when it's like silly to make jokes about other people, 974 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,880 Speaker 14: you know what I mean, Like that wasn't my intention, 975 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 14: and yeah, and I'm and I wasn't mad at the 976 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,439 Speaker 14: girls in that moment. And I still gave everyone grace, 977 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 14: and I still give everyone grace now because it obviously 978 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 14: should have been Jeremy that told me first. 979 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 10: And that's really all I can All I can say. 980 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: Is, yeah, well some of that someone that's hold on 981 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: someone is getting a lot of heat online, is Alex right, Like, 982 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 1: so a lot of this is directed towards you looking back, 983 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: would you have done anything differently or how do you 984 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 1: feel about it now as you look back. 985 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 9: So I've already owned up to it from the start, 986 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 9: even before it aired to Bailey, and I apologize multiple times, 987 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 9: and I should have told you from you know, the 988 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 9: phone call one thing that you know, I'll say it 989 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 9: didn't hurt my feelings. You know, I considered you a 990 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 9: really good friend Jeremy before going in. And when you 991 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 9: told me about the phone call, you know, you kind 992 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 9: of said, we've talked about it. It's good and kind 993 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 9: of like letting you know, to like stay out of 994 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 9: it type of thing, because you guys never told you 995 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 9: that they were in front of the island and it 996 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 9: just said you had just talked to Bailey and you said, 997 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 9: you know, I've talked to her. I said that you 998 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 9: should tell her and you said. 999 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 10: I've I mean, could have the table. 1000 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 19: I might have said like, I'll take care of it, 1001 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 19: but I never said that. I told I talked to 1002 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 19: her about it. 1003 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,439 Speaker 9: Not about the phone call, but you said you're talking, 1004 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 9: We're good. That's what I'm saying, So basically kind of like, anyways, 1005 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 9: it doesn't matter. 1006 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 19: I should have told you, yeah, maybe like we're good, 1007 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 19: like I'm going to talk to her about it. 1008 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 4: I never I don't understand, like why she told you 1009 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 4: and you didn't do anything with the information as all saying, 1010 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 4: So if everyone told you, why is it? 1011 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 8: Why is everyone taking flack for something? 1012 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 10: No, I don't think that. I don't think that. 1013 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 4: I just feel like, and here's the thing with the tweet. 1014 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 4: It wasn't directed to bring hate to you. My thing was, 1015 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm sitting here with my partner. She's destroyed. I'm not 1016 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 4: going to sit here. Why you had any ample time 1017 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 4: to get on Twitter and be like, hey direct hate 1018 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 4: at me or I don't know my responsibility Twitter, Instagram, 1019 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 4: whatever the case. My thing is, you never took accountability. 1020 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 4: You never once apologized to Alex for everything going on, 1021 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 4: reached out. Nobody wanted to be in. 1022 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 8: This situ I'm that sure happy hour, I do not listen. 1023 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 8: I took accountability. Bro, you never talked to her? What 1024 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 8: time did you ever text her? 1025 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 10: One time? 1026 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 8: Dude, I've been getting tens of thousands of. 1027 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 12: You. 1028 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 8: I reached out to you. 1029 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 4: You reached out when you knew you were about apologize 1030 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 4: every week. 1031 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 14: Wait, here's the thing I'm gonna tell you. In Chicago, 1032 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 14: we had the most fun trip to Chicago. So I 1033 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 14: think that's why I was so caught off guard because 1034 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 14: we and Alex I'm going to say this, I didn't 1035 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 14: know that Jeremy was the first person to tell you 1036 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 14: about the call, and so I think that's why it 1037 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 14: threw me off when I watched it back. But in 1038 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,279 Speaker 14: regards to us having like apologies and everything, I don't 1039 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 14: want you to catch the flag for it. Obviously you 1040 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 14: called me when you you know you and Andrew called 1041 00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 14: me while I was in Portugal when you realize that 1042 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 14: like you were receiving some hate for it. 1043 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 10: But I know I'm not saying that it's bad. 1044 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: And what we had. 1045 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 9: Had an air we message every day. 1046 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 10: Like episode we all had a group message and we 1047 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 10: talked about things. 1048 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 9: So I'm just going to say one thing one thing 1049 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,359 Speaker 9: that did, and I obviously wanted to I don't want 1050 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 9: to rehash it because I obviously love you. What I 1051 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 9: was going to say is what hurt my feelings is, 1052 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 9: you know, we had talked it out and we you 1053 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 9: guys came to visit us in Chicago, and I thought 1054 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 9: we were good, and it did really was surprising to 1055 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 9: me and caught me off guard that I learned publicly 1056 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 9: that it was brought up again, and it felt like 1057 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 9: the blame was put on me on a podcast, and 1058 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 9: that you didn't care about the phone call, but it 1059 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 9: was more me not telling you, and you're so allowed 1060 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 9: to feel that way, but it just felt like there 1061 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 9: was no accountability towards Jeermy, and that really hurt me 1062 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 9: because I wish that could have been put been said 1063 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 9: privately because we had talked. 1064 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 10: Now I understand. 1065 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 14: All I'm going to say is I said up the 1066 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,400 Speaker 14: podcast that Jeremy should have been the first person to 1067 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 14: tell me. I also said on the podcast they asked 1068 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,359 Speaker 14: me what I would do in that situation. They didn't 1069 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 14: ask me who I was. Though everyone gets to say 1070 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 14: how they're feeling, I also get to say how I'm feeling. 1071 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 14: The reason that it hurt is because I'm every single 1072 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 14: night looking across from you. I We're sharing so many 1073 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 14: secrets about our life, We're sharing everything, and I just 1074 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 14: thought that you actually had my back the entire time. 1075 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 14: So and that's why it hurt, because I'm watching it back, like, yeah, 1076 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 14: this is my boyfriend, but like at that point, I 1077 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 14: knew him for like ten twelve days, So yeah, I'm 1078 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 14: sorry if that that's why. And even after I left, 1079 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,959 Speaker 14: I did, I wasn't even mad about it. I swear 1080 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 14: to God, Like even when I did the Happy Hour past, 1081 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 14: like I said, I wouldn't do that. But I understand 1082 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 14: that people are in difficult situations. People don't want to 1083 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,880 Speaker 14: be built, yeah, don't want to be dragging to drama, 1084 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 14: and I totally get that and understand it. I am 1085 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 14: so sorry that everyone had to receive hate. Anyone that 1086 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 14: knows me knows that. Unfortunately, Paradise was not an amazing 1087 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 14: experience for me, and every single day I was not 1088 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 14: in a good mental health headspace, especially after I had 1089 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 14: to send Leslie and Gary home. 1090 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 10: I was just going through it. 1091 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 14: So I understand in the moment, people not acting the things, 1092 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,359 Speaker 14: not wanting to act on rumors, and I have never 1093 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 14: blamed anyone for that. Unfortunately, what did hurt is the 1094 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 14: tweet because I was like, I have been wanting to 1095 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 14: protect all of my friends, these people that I've been with, 1096 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 14: these like I don't want them receiving any more hate. 1097 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 14: I know how it feels. 1098 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 10: So I am so publicly because I just felt I 1099 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 10: wasn't trying to I'm not. 1100 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even I'm not upset with you at all, 1101 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 4: or I'm not I'm not Like if the tweet wasn't 1102 00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 4: at you, my thing was is still. 1103 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 8: Literally at you. 1104 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 20: Like when we were on the show, everybody was going 1105 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 20: after Brian when this all happened. 1106 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 8: Now everyone's after Journey. 1107 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 20: Make it makes sense because you guys watching it, Brian 1108 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 20: and I have. 1109 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 8: A conversation, and you know what the energy was. 1110 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 4: That was not the energy towards you, saying I said, 1111 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 4: if you would have told you man and man, you 1112 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 4: hang out with him, you work out with him, you 1113 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 4: go eat with him, you're always in his room. As 1114 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 4: a guy that feels like that's a friend of mine, 1115 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 4: I would would have loved you to come to me 1116 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 4: and be like, hey, if you don't tell her, I 1117 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 4: will go tell that was a conversation that had with you, 1118 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 4: and I said you should treat prease it better. 1119 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 8: That's all I said to you. 1120 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,040 Speaker 7: That was what context. 1121 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 1: Treat her better though, like in what contruct you you were. 1122 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 8: You were angry with and you your way you've verbalized 1123 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 8: and talked to her. I just didn't like you never 1124 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 8: witness it though. 1125 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: You can't talk about this situation without talking about Brian, 1126 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,240 Speaker 1: and I want to hear your thoughts about this whole situation. 1127 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 16: Yeah, I just think there's a crazy energy shift right 1128 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 16: now in the room. I know that rose ceremony, I 1129 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 16: was the only one targeted. So is my relationship with 1130 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 16: Parisa specifically what Andrew just said, like the way I 1131 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 16: treated her, and like things that were completely taken out 1132 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 16: of context with even like Spencer had spoke to me 1133 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 16: towards the end of the season, like listen, he's like, 1134 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 16: I think a lot of things were taken out of 1135 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,840 Speaker 16: context that I might not have actually seen that I 1136 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 16: just heard through rumors, twelve rumors a day, and like 1137 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 16: truthfully that that was the case between us, Like I 1138 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,719 Speaker 16: wasn't mistreating her in any other way, Like you know, 1139 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 16: we've had her ups and downs and things like that, 1140 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,399 Speaker 16: but that became like a primary focus, and I became 1141 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 16: a primary target when it's being completely taken off of 1142 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 16: everybody who hasn't actually said something to the person that can. 1143 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 10: I just say one more thing. 1144 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,800 Speaker 9: So the reason I didn't tell you Bailey's because we, 1145 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 9: me and Jeremy had a friendship outside of this, and 1146 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 9: you had even told me you were very interested in 1147 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 9: Bailey before coming in, so I knew that. And when 1148 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,280 Speaker 9: the whole date with Andrew happened, he was very upset, obviously, 1149 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 9: and you came to me and you did say, you know, 1150 00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 9: you know me the best, like who should I pick? 1151 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 9: And I said, I don't know Bailey, you know, outside 1152 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 9: of this that much. We weren't really close, but I said, 1153 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 9: I've grown to love her really well, and I think 1154 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 9: you guys would pair really well. And I know you 1155 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 9: were angry the next day when she went on a 1156 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 9: date with him, and I understood that as like, you know, 1157 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 9: maybe your ego was bruise, and I gave you kind 1158 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 9: of grace knowing that you really really liked her and 1159 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 9: you had told me that, so I when you when 1160 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,279 Speaker 9: the whole phone call thing, I did tell you to 1161 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 9: tell her, but the reason I didn't tell you was 1162 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 9: because I didn't want to jeopardize something that I thought 1163 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 9: would be really, really well And that's the only reason 1164 00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 9: I didn't tell you. If I felt there was any 1165 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 9: vindictive thing or well intent, I would have told you. 1166 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 14: I never yeah, And I never thought that you were 1167 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 14: keeping it from me because of all these random conspiracies 1168 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 14: about whatever about you know about you and it like 1169 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 14: it's not that I and and that's why, honestly, I 1170 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 14: I just wanted everyone to leave this, all of us 1171 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 14: being friends, and that's what I thought we did leave with, 1172 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 14: you know what I'm saying. 1173 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 10: And so I'm not mad at you for it. 1174 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 14: I'm so sorry that you receive hate, and I'm sorry 1175 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 14: that we didn't reach out, But I think it's just 1176 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 14: because we've been receiving. 1177 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 10: So much hate. 1178 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 14: It's really just been way too overwhelming for me. Like 1179 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 14: I haven't been able to do like, yeah. 1180 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 10: I haven't been able to. 1181 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 19: Thank you to Dale and to Spencer and Sean and 1182 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 19: lean and Jonathan for reaching out. 1183 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,320 Speaker 8: And that's crazy because. 1184 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 14: I did see that, and so I think I was 1185 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 14: just very thrown off obviously by the tweet. And I 1186 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 14: was just like, oh, I was thinking that like we were. 1187 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 10: Good, but I had nothing. 1188 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 14: I didn't and I know I wasn't even with anyway, like, 1189 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,240 Speaker 14: and I told you I texted you that morning because 1190 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 14: I was so grateful that you reached out to me, 1191 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 14: and I was so thrown off after getting scented. I 1192 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 14: was like, oh, like maybe I was, like, you know, 1193 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,359 Speaker 14: placing so much hold on these friendships and they weren't 1194 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 14: actually like translating, and so I'm sorry. I just wasn't 1195 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 14: in the place to be able to talk to each 1196 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 14: because it really did throw me off because I was 1197 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 14: just like, it does just feel like your world is 1198 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,480 Speaker 14: crashing down, and I'm really sorry that people receive hate 1199 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 14: because like I think we can all test to it. 1200 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 14: It's horrible and sometimes people take things way too far. 1201 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 14: And I wanted us to be able to I came 1202 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 14: here and I didn't really. 1203 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 10: Have any bad intent. 1204 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 14: I honestly wasn't even going to talk about it if 1205 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,520 Speaker 14: it wasn't going to be brought up, because like, I 1206 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 14: just don't think it's necessary and I don't want you 1207 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 14: guys receiving and I don't want any of anybody receiving hate. 1208 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 10: And it's it's just it's really shitty and. 1209 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: I want to get on a word to use, but 1210 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 1: it's a podcast, you can say. I want to get 1211 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: some opinion about some opinions from other people, like Alicia. 1212 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: It seems like you want to say something about the situation. Well, 1213 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,439 Speaker 1: you and Sean I always got something good to say. 1214 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 18: No, I stand by Bailey. 1215 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 19: I think. 1216 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 12: I can vouch for Bailey's character. She's a very genuine person. 1217 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,680 Speaker 12: I've been friends with her before this season, and I 1218 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 12: know who I'm looking at when I see her, so 1219 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 12: that's all that I see. And I see Jeremy, the 1220 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 12: guy that I've met who truly loves her. And I 1221 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 12: think like every relationship, it comes to a point where 1222 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 12: you're going to be tested one way or another, and 1223 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 12: this was a very bizarre way for them to be 1224 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 12: put to the test, but I think it's queer. At 1225 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 12: the end of the day, they both tremendously care for 1226 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,920 Speaker 12: each other and they have each other's back, And as 1227 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 12: a friend of Bailey, I support her. 1228 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 10: No matter what, and I hope that they're both happy. 1229 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 12: And you guys look like you're killing it, so you 1230 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 12: have my full support, and. 1231 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 14: I feel like I want us all to be able 1232 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 14: to move on from this and not have it like 1233 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 14: looming over our heads. And I'm not mad, you know, 1234 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 14: like I feel like I have to release like any 1235 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 14: hurt or anything on everyone, like you know, it just 1236 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,400 Speaker 14: it has to be released so that we can all 1237 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 14: move on from this, because I want it to be 1238 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 14: for something that we can all be connected. 1239 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 10: I want us to all be friends after this. And yeah, 1240 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 10: it's obviously hard. 1241 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 14: I don't know. 1242 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: Hey, you're looking for the perfect gift for the Bachelor 1243 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: fan in your life. Check out the new Bachelor Nation shop. 1244 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: Visit shop dot Bachelornation dot com. Well, it's gonna get 1245 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: harder because I have fan questions now, all right? 1246 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 6: Are these fans or the terrible people that sit behind 1247 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 6: a freaking screen? 1248 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: This is an Donna Adams at a o L dot com. 1249 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: That's my mom. Uh fan question, Brian, did you ever 1250 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: have any any other intentions going into the secret rendezvous? 1251 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: If you could do it all over again, would you 1252 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: still tell Bailey the truth? 1253 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 16: There were no other intentions going into the secret Rendezvous 1254 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,000 Speaker 16: and now I stand by what I did. 1255 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: And then follow up, why did you take so long 1256 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: to be vocal to others about your conversation. 1257 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 16: With Bailey because I knew the repercussions. Unfortunately, I knew 1258 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 16: how the crowd around me would react. Obviously, clearly after 1259 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 16: the viewership's response, their reactions are different, but I knew 1260 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 16: how they would react in the time we were on 1261 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 16: the island, so I was hesitant, but at the same time, again, 1262 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 16: I own what I did. 1263 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: This is a fan question kind of for everyone. Why 1264 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: was everyone so nervous about Brian doing the same thing 1265 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: to them that he did to Jeremy. Were there more 1266 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: secrets that people didn't want revealed. 1267 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 21: I don't think that that was a big thing. Like 1268 01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 21: Brian was my homie and I'm close with Brian right now. 1269 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 21: Like my thing was because I feel like a lot 1270 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 21: of times I was like, hey, let me know what 1271 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 21: the deal is so we can work it out. 1272 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 7: But it was never about Brian did nothing wrong. I 1273 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 7: was just like, bro, just let me know what the 1274 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 7: deal is so you know I can support you. 1275 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 21: Obviously, Jeremy was my roommate and we had talked about 1276 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 21: the situation and everything, so I didn't think about like 1277 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 21: something that like it would be done to me per se. 1278 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 21: I just it was more probably like, are you like 1279 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 21: if you know I'm in your corner, like, you know, 1280 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 21: just let me know what the deal is. But I 1281 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 21: can understand from his situation too, because it's a hostile environment. 1282 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 21: You don't want to be sent home and then you're 1283 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 21: you're trying to build this relationship. But I don't think 1284 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 21: it was more about like a malicious thing. I was 1285 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 21: just like keeping one hundred with me, you know, if 1286 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 21: I'm your boy. 1287 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I feel like we could probably do three 1288 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: podcasts just on this one thing, but I think it's 1289 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: I think it's probably time to move on. Brian back. 1290 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Your nation is dying to know what is your favorite color? 1291 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,360 Speaker 1: And why was it so hard for you to let 1292 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: Parisa know? 1293 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 15: Yeah, Brian, you. 1294 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 7: Know, Leah helped me out with this today. 1295 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 16: My favorite color is future. 1296 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 12: Color. 1297 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 8: I don't even know what fusia looks like, but that's 1298 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:26,320 Speaker 8: my favorite color. 1299 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 10: He was confused. He was confused. 1300 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 1: Wonderful now, you know, Teresa, Let's talk about your relationship 1301 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: with Brian. How did you guys first connect and tell 1302 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: us about the beginning days of that relationship. 1303 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 15: When I stepped on that beach, Brian really stood out 1304 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 15: and he was very outgoing, very tall. 1305 01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 7: That caught my attention and thanks for the compliment, and. 1306 01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, like I just kind from there, I just wanted 1307 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 15: to get to know him. And I also at that time, 1308 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 15: I liked that I didn't know him. I didn't know 1309 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 15: a lot of people here, so I liked that like 1310 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 15: going in blind, where then I can kind of just 1311 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 15: like fill in the blanks to get to know him 1312 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 15: instead of having like this a bias mindset. 1313 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Now, you guys left together, But what's the relationships at 1314 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: us now? 1315 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 15: Well, we tried, and it just came down to, really 1316 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 15: I feel like having different schedules. I think also too, 1317 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 15: I wanted something different in a relationship compared to what 1318 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 15: Brian wanted, and nothing wrong with that. I feel like 1319 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 15: a lot of this comes down to compatibility. That's okay. 1320 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 15: And yeah, I mean we tried, and it just got 1321 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 15: to a point of like, okay, I think we just 1322 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 15: need to like wave our white flag and kind of 1323 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 15: just move on. 1324 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:54,760 Speaker 8: All right. 1325 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 1: So you guys gave it the old college try. It 1326 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: didn't work out. But are you guys both single? Like 1327 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 1: what's going on in your lives relationship wise? 1328 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 15: Well, I I'm seeing someone now and and yeah, I 1329 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 15: mean it was, I mean it's it was. 1330 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 10: I don't know, it was the whole process. Everything was 1331 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 10: just so hard. 1332 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 15: It was hard and confusing, and I guess, yeah, I 1333 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 15: mean I reached a point where, I mean, like anybody, 1334 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 15: when you just keep trying and trying, like you just 1335 01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 15: you hit that wall and you're like, Okay, well, I 1336 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 15: mean I can keep trying, keep wasting time, and or 1337 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 15: I just just move on. And I mean I'm not 1338 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 15: getting any younger, and neither is he. 1339 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 1: So, Brian, Brian, watching it back, is there anything that 1340 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: you wish you would have done differently when it came 1341 01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 1: to your relationship with Parisa. 1342 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 16: I think that the vip VIP suite and maybe I 1343 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 16: could answered what my favorite color was. 1344 01:04:59,160 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 6: I just made one up. 1345 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,320 Speaker 16: Yeah, I could have done that. It was a long 1346 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 16: day in feathers man, in that outfit that. 1347 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 15: We were in, which I totally understand, but I will 1348 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 15: say just at the end of the day, like it 1349 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 15: was a long day for all of us. We were 1350 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 15: all hot, all hungry, all in feathers for hours, and yeah, 1351 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,560 Speaker 15: I mean that was just a moment that was It 1352 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 15: was tough because like that was a huge thing, especially 1353 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 15: to win. Yeah, when the vip VIP suite is huge, 1354 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 15: and yeah. 1355 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 22: I. 1356 01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 7: Had a moment and I did it. Yeah, I will. 1357 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: I will say this though I read exactly what went 1358 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 1: down as they've been on camera all day. They were 1359 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: told they get to go to a VIP suite, they're 1360 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: still filming us, and then you got salty. That's how 1361 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: I read it. Yeah, just because I know how the 1362 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: sausage is made. 1363 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 16: Like we thought we were actually gonna enjoy Yeah. 1364 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 15: I was just I was hoping that we could just 1365 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,840 Speaker 15: we could have adapted to the situation and know, like 1366 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 15: if we could just put a smile on for the 1367 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 15: last you know, ten minutes, then it's like, okay, then 1368 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 15: we we get what we worked hard for and what 1369 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 15: we want and now we can enjoy it. It was 1370 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 15: just a moment of like we're adapting. Would have been 1371 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 15: really nice, but it's but I will, like we are 1372 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 15: all living for the first time. It's okay, this was 1373 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 15: a new experience for all of us. And I want 1374 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 15: to say, like, I don't it was a mistake whatever, 1375 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 15: But I don't want that to ever be held against 1376 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 15: someone and then they are labeled as that forever. And 1377 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,040 Speaker 15: it's all that matters is that we look back, we 1378 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,440 Speaker 15: recognize things, and then we use that to grow and 1379 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 15: you know, next time, like if any situation like this 1380 01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 15: ever happens, it's like okay, like we're going to exhale, 1381 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 15: adapt to it, and just move on. 1382 01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:49,439 Speaker 7: And just tell them your favorite color. 1383 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1384 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been the easiest man. All right, 1385 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, that's going to do it. For Part one 1386 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: of Bachelor and Paradise Unplugged, make sure to stay tuned. 1387 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: Part two of our Pas Paradise reunion will be airing Friday, 1388 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: September fifth, and streaming everywhere you get your podcasts. 1389 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 13: You'll see you soon,