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Speaker 2: We'll come up with a final hour poll question. Jim
Speaker 2: Jackson one of our favorites. He is a Fox Sports analyst,
Speaker 2: former NBA guard. I'm gonna ask him if Lebron and
Speaker 2: Luca are the best duo in the NBA. Raiders are
Speaker 2: paying Max Crosby now the highest paid non quarterback in
Speaker 2: the NFL. Chargers say goodbye to Joey Bosa. Dk Metcalf
Speaker 2: wants out of Seattle, and the Bears get an offensive
Speaker 2: lineman Joe Tooney from the Chiefs. And that was a
Speaker 2: little bit surprising, but I think the Chiefs Joe Tooney
Speaker 2: was playing tackle and playing out a position. He's an
Speaker 2: offensive guard. Now he'll go to the Bears and hopefully
Speaker 2: help protect Kata Williams. Alexandrovechkin nine behind the Great One
Speaker 2: and Cavaliers have won twelve in a row. The Knicks
Speaker 2: at the Lakers coming up tonight. Whole question for the
Speaker 2: final hour is going to be what I'm populating this
Speaker 2: right now? Best best duo in the NBA right now? Okay,
Speaker 2: Lebron and Luca, Tatum and Brown would be the next one.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Do we put Jokic Murray in there? That's that's a
Speaker 4: solid duo right there, that's probably underrated.
Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, Let's see who else do we put in there?
Speaker 4: Uh, Johannis and Dame Okay, Kevin Durant and Devin Booker, Okay, maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 2: You know what I thought of it, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: there has to be a duo that's better than Luca
Speaker 2: and Lebron. And I'm like, I don't think so. Now
Speaker 2: you can say Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum. Jalen Brown
Speaker 2: because of their a and what they've accomplished, but right now,
Speaker 2: and Luke and Lebron because Lebron is holding up his
Speaker 2: end of the bargain.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulie, the fact that we all paused with Giannis
Speaker 5: and Dame, it didn't really work out right off the bat.
Speaker 3: No, that cooled.
Speaker 5: They're above well about five hundred, but they're not they're
Speaker 5: a little off the radar lately.
Speaker 3: Paul George and Joe Ellipe.
Speaker 6: Oh that's not nice. Sorry, Sorry, he stopped doing his
Speaker 6: podcast to focus though Paul George.
Speaker 2: Now I want to hear from him. You know, it's
Speaker 2: like a reality show. When there's really stuff going on
Speaker 2: with people in a reality show, then they never show that.
Speaker 2: I want to hear from playoff p and how much
Speaker 2: of a mess it is right now. We also stumbled
Speaker 2: on deathbed sports confessionals and we'll continue that. Roco in Florida, Hey, Roco,
Speaker 2: what do you have for me?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 8: I saw Morning by the Way five nine, so I
Speaker 8: have sworn through out there with pulps tears. How hurt
Speaker 8: were you? Because you know most some of you are
Speaker 8: carried off and most some of your carted off and
Speaker 8: you're out for the game, you know, unless it's like
Speaker 8: a European like soccer or baseball. In Italy, they have
Speaker 8: that magical can of spray. I don't know if you've
Speaker 8: ever seen if they sprayed on their body wherever they're
Speaker 8: hurt and they just pop up. Other than that, were
Speaker 8: you really that hurt? Or was it for the momentum.
Speaker 8: Get the momentum back. You come out of the locker room.
Speaker 2: No, we had to go to the bathroom. I think
Speaker 2: you had to go to the bathroom. I mean that's
Speaker 2: the rumor. Got off the wheelchair. Yeah, yeah, I've had
Speaker 2: a few rough ones.
Speaker 3: Never need a wheelchair.
Speaker 2: Well, gotta go. Can you call a time out? And
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden run to the locker room.
Speaker 2: Darren in Bakersfield, Hi, Darren, how you doing?
Speaker 7: Love your show?
Speaker 8: I think well?
Speaker 7: I mean a cump the death confidential. The one quertion
Speaker 7: we all want to know from OJ is a true
Speaker 7: years a gun during the robbery of the property in
Speaker 7: the motel room.
Speaker 2: Oh uh, that wouldn't be the one that I would
Speaker 2: want to know, Darren.
Speaker 4: Darren, let me tell you something, Darren, he's playing his
Speaker 4: humor is four D.
Speaker 3: Chess right now? That is good job, Darren.
Speaker 4: Did you use the gun in the robbery?
Speaker 3: Fresh in Milwaukee, Ahi? Fresh? What's on your mind?
Speaker 7: What's up?
Speaker 3: DP?
Speaker 8: How about the death? Big confessional from referee Timothy Donahues.
Speaker 9: Oh I know he got something stinky to say.
Speaker 2: All right, Tim Donaghee, Tim Donaghee, Uh yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: he has some things to say. Anyway, he's already said
Speaker 2: some things. I would just like to know if there
Speaker 2: are other NBA officials involved in that. And there have
Speaker 2: been a couple of podcasts that talk about that, but uh,
Speaker 2: I don't know. We had tim on years ago, and
Speaker 2: I don't know. It always just sounded and it's not
Speaker 2: that he maybe wasn't telling the truth or kind of
Speaker 2: telling the truth, but it always just sounded a little
Speaker 2: back room shady stuff.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, this might be down the chart a little bit,
Speaker 5: but I got a couple of questions for jose al
Speaker 5: tu Bay, just a couple put at the bad you're
Speaker 5: in the clear?
Speaker 3: Nope, no pun? What do you mean in the clear? Pun?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just saying like when he was had his
Speaker 5: jersey ripped off and stuff like that, did he have
Speaker 5: a tattoo on his chest that was fresh? Did he
Speaker 5: have a signal there? Oh, there's a lot going on
Speaker 5: there that still want to know.
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were talking about the cream and
Speaker 2: the clear or clear in the cream whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Joseph in California, Hi, Joe, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 10: Good morning, Dan, First time, long time, six to fifteen.
Speaker 10: I had a deathbed concession. I'd like to ask Sho
Speaker 10: Tani was he the one betting? Even as a Dodger fan.
Speaker 10: I am a little bit curious, Okay.
Speaker 2: It's a fair question. It's a lot of money to
Speaker 2: not know where that money was going. But and the
Speaker 2: commissioner wrapped that up quickly. He was like, all right,
Speaker 2: we wrapped it up. Everything's good, Like wow, that was red.
Speaker 2: I admitted to.
Speaker 5: Everything after an exhausted four day investigation.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Julianne in San Diego, Hi, Julienne, Oh.
Speaker 11: Hey, DP, thanks staking my call. I got my car
Speaker 11: and I heard the DK metcalf body versus athleticism, and
Speaker 11: Polly asked win and care about that? So I thought
Speaker 11: i'd give my point of view there.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 11: I am not an eight or nine, to be honest.
Speaker 11: At one point maybe I was, but I'm more like
Speaker 11: a solid seven now. But I'm pulling a ten. And
Speaker 11: I can tell you that if he wasn't at least
Speaker 11: as athletic as me or more, it wouldn't matter how
Speaker 11: good he looked. So you got to be at least
Speaker 11: on the same level, if not a little bit more.
Speaker 2: With that, all right, there you go, Unscientific but that's
Speaker 2: Julianne saying she's not an eight or nine. She's maybe
Speaker 2: a seven, but she could pull a ten. But would
Speaker 2: you like to look like Dk Metcalf but you're not
Speaker 2: athletic at all?
Speaker 3: The great question?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I didn't think I would be talking
Speaker 2: about that today, but then once again on this show,
Speaker 2: since it's scripted, I should have been able to have
Speaker 2: foretold that.
Speaker 6: Yes, Marv, do you know how bad people would judge
Speaker 6: you if you look like that you have no athletic
Speaker 6: ability at all? Like, wait, so what do you do?
Speaker 6: I would be asking what do you do?
Speaker 2: I would be okay with it. Why, well, because too
Speaker 2: texy for your shirt? But people look at me now
Speaker 2: and say, really you played and be like, well no,
Speaker 2: I just played a little bit growing up, so they.
Speaker 3: Don't you know, I don't look athletic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we would rather it be like you look like,
Speaker 4: you know, like a god, and then when you try
Speaker 4: to run, you look.
Speaker 3: Like like that's how you run. All I need to
Speaker 3: say is the following.
Speaker 2: If I was built like Dk Metcalf, I would go
Speaker 2: and if a woman said, oh my gosh, you must
Speaker 2: have played sports, No, I walked the runways of Paris.
Speaker 2: Oh that's it, game over, I think so yeah, Hell yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd love to try it. I don't know, yeah, walking
Speaker 2: on the beach all of a sudden, I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody's gonna care if I was athletic or not, or
Speaker 2: if I could throw a beach ball a beach ball,
Speaker 2: as Todd says, who throws a beach ball?
Speaker 3: To begin with? Yes, which would be werese.
Speaker 5: Th being jacked like DK Metcalf and not athletic, or
Speaker 5: being six or eight and having no basketball skills whatsoever?
Speaker 5: Like if you're imagine I knew this kid in college.
Speaker 5: He was six foot eight and he looked like a
Speaker 5: basketball player. He was the worst basketball player. People have
Speaker 5: to must ask you all the time, can you play?
Speaker 5: Would you want to play?
Speaker 2: I would be fine being DK Metcalf. I don't know
Speaker 2: why this is a big, you know, controversial. What about
Speaker 2: being six eight at age? Oh I don't want to
Speaker 2: be six eight and not be able to play. But
Speaker 2: if I'm DK Metcalf and I look like that, huh,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. Wait, you never played? No, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm into academics. Oh, like you can steer this, however,
Speaker 2: you want to. I was a runway model.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, I spent a lot of time with academics.
Speaker 2: That's very important to me and my mother. Oh he
Speaker 2: loves his mother. I mean, come on, I got this
Speaker 2: one ready. Yes, he his mother.
Speaker 3: It's weird. You know.
Speaker 4: The funny thing is about this conversation is counbersation. You
Speaker 4: could look like DK Metcalf, thank you, you just chose
Speaker 4: not to.
Speaker 3: No, I couldn't look like DK.
Speaker 12: Me.
Speaker 4: Everybody here could have spent a ton of time in
Speaker 4: the gym and got themselves as ripped as humanly possible.
Speaker 3: Todd did actually for a little while.
Speaker 4: Uh and now, but everybody collectively chose to not do that.
Speaker 3: Todd.
Speaker 2: Did anybody say to you when you were jacked, hey,
Speaker 2: what sport do you play?
Speaker 12: They did not. They did accuse me of like taking
Speaker 12: steroids when I was at the gym, but that was
Speaker 12: more for like fodder and the gym and Brooklyn where
Speaker 12: looked like everybody was on the game.
Speaker 2: So that's a compliment I took that you somehow survived
Speaker 2: where they knew you weren't athletic, but you were jacked.
Speaker 12: Yes, they were complement on the physique and just see
Speaker 12: if you're taking something, but never like what sport you
Speaker 12: play or an Now.
Speaker 2: When it's guys who were probably saying, I don't know
Speaker 2: if the women were saying, are you Jeice Todd? That
Speaker 2: was guys, Yes, of course that's all you hung out with.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know why they didn't ask Jacked Todd if
Speaker 4: he played any sports? Why because he was so athletic
Speaker 4: you already knew, or was like so unathletic you already
Speaker 4: knew that he didn't play sports.
Speaker 3: That's the whole point.
Speaker 4: The guy looks shredded, but you can tell like this
Speaker 4: dude could barely put two feet in front of.
Speaker 2: The seat, and he played backup doubles tennis in high
Speaker 2: school and he was on the winning pickleball team at
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 12: Two time all star in Little League. Yeah, Lincoln Savings Bank,
Speaker 12: Brighton Beach, Brooklyn.
Speaker 6: But I know I'd be the guy that I dropped
Speaker 6: a barber on my foot.
Speaker 12: Ah, and then they'd be like that klutchy guy that
Speaker 12: I hope no one would ask me to spot them.
Speaker 12: I'd be terrified if they had to like help them
Speaker 12: someone get a bar up their neck. Someone would ask me, here,
Speaker 12: you could have spopped me.
Speaker 3: This guy, he's like gigantic.
Speaker 12: I'm like, I don't want any pun of that.
Speaker 3: I regret this topic. I apologize. I'd like to apologize
Speaker 3: to DK Metcalf and our audience. Jim Jackson's fault. Really, yeah,
Speaker 3: where is Jim Jackson?
Speaker 8: It's not like him.
Speaker 12: He's always very punctual.
Speaker 3: Well, he'd put the jack into Jim Jackson.
Speaker 12: What you did there?
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you?
Speaker 4: I mean all Todd could be as jacked as he wants, right,
Speaker 4: and he could walk the runways of Milan and all.
Speaker 3: Of these things. And then the minute he starts using
Speaker 3: a pair.
Speaker 2: Of scissors, nobody, Well, okay, but that's a differentak.
Speaker 3: Out of broom, Like, hey, can you sweep this up
Speaker 3: real quick?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Like, there's that, but that's not that you're athletic. That
Speaker 2: just means that your mom didn't do any everything.
Speaker 5: For your function human.
Speaker 3: Yes, Like you picked up a broom around the house,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 12: Would flex with that broom like nobody, I would just
Speaker 12: flex the bull.
Speaker 2: Remember, well, I know you guys remember when we cut
Speaker 2: down the nets the final show that we did at
Speaker 2: the Old Man Cave, and Todd was up there.
Speaker 3: So Todd because there was no lefty scissor.
Speaker 2: Let's just Tod did not Okay, what's more embarrassing, Todd
Speaker 2: didn't know how to use a broom or Todd didn't
Speaker 2: know how.
Speaker 3: To use it righty scissors.
Speaker 2: No, No, you didn't understand that. You pulled the net down,
Speaker 2: you create some tension and then you clip it. I
Speaker 2: did screw that, so you didn't understand that it's not
Speaker 2: the scissors, it's the scissor.
Speaker 12: I think they're both equally extremely safe.
Speaker 2: I think that you did not know how to broom
Speaker 2: use a broom is still one of the more remarkable
Speaker 2: things in the twenty years.
Speaker 12: It was just a vacuum cleaner. For the very few
Speaker 12: times that I did anything around the house when it
Speaker 12: was electric.
Speaker 3: Vacuum, I thought it's a broom.
Speaker 12: I take got the dustbuster and I pressed the button
Speaker 12: on hopefully it's charged, and then it was a broom.
Speaker 6: Rooms could be company.
Speaker 3: You thought it was a shuffle board. I did use
Speaker 3: it as a shuffle boardroom. It was amazing. Something you
Speaker 3: sweep with amazing.
Speaker 12: It just kind of pushing the crumbs into the corner,
Speaker 12: then gathering them.
Speaker 2: But we had confetti and and you were pushing it
Speaker 2: like it was a shuffle board.
Speaker 12: I know I could tell you the periodic table, the elements,
Speaker 12: but I couldn't do the broom of the scissors.
Speaker 3: Fil See that's why great point average is so overrated.
Speaker 3: It's booksmarts versus street smart. Yes, exactly, Yeah, it's me
Speaker 3: versus you.
Speaker 12: That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would cheat off your paper, but I was
Speaker 2: covering the answers.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to come walk in.
Speaker 12: Here and get the same grade with me.
Speaker 6: I've been studying for this dust for a month, no way.
Speaker 2: I remember the basketball manager Greg Sliger straight a, and
Speaker 2: I basically was saying to Greg, you know, if you
Speaker 2: want to keep me eligible, you better let me cheat
Speaker 2: off your paper in chemistry. And then, but you gotta
Speaker 2: be careful you get around an eighty three. Ye Greg
Speaker 2: would get like a ninety eight, and then I'd be like,
Speaker 2: I got a hover in the eighty three. Don't want
Speaker 2: to go too crazy here, all right, So we'll see
Speaker 2: if Jim Jackson will join us. I had a great
Speaker 2: question there for him. Best duo in the NBA right
Speaker 2: now called Jamal Mashburn or anybody else who was on
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks back.
Speaker 6: Then George McLoud. Let's if he's around.
Speaker 2: George McLeod, he could score, didn't have a fifty point game.
Speaker 2: George McCleod, Rando, Rando, Rando, fifty pointer rand Oh, by
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 3: Here's something for you.
Speaker 2: Let me see here. Here it is here it did.
Speaker 2: James Harden scored fifty points last night. He's got twenty
Speaker 2: four career games of fifty more points, so he's one
Speaker 2: behind Kobe. James Harden's fourth on the all time list.
Speaker 2: Then it's Kobe who is second on that list, because
Speaker 2: we know Wilt is first on that list. Is Michael
Speaker 2: on that list? Is he second? I'm going Mike, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's what I thought. I was like, Wait, I thought
Speaker 2: Kobe was second for some reason. But it's Wilt? Is
Speaker 2: it Michael?
Speaker 3: After that? Does that sound right, Marvin?
Speaker 6: I would assume so I'd be shocked if it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Mister great memory. This is when you're supposed to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's Michael, Yes, Paul.
Speaker 5: I have Wilt with one hundred and eighteen fifty point games,
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan with thirty one, Kobe twenty five, hard and
Speaker 5: twenty four Okay, that's.
Speaker 6: What I said.
Speaker 3: All right, well done, Marvin.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, all right, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 2: Kind of a random performance last night with the Celtics.
Speaker 2: No Jason Tatum, no problem. Derek White and Peyton Pritchard.
Speaker 2: They were lighting up the night. Prichard had forty three,
Speaker 2: Derek White had forty one, both career highs, and Pritchard
Speaker 2: had ten threes. White had nine, So in the history
Speaker 2: of the Boston Celtics, they're the first duo in Celtic's
Speaker 2: history to score at least forty points. In the same game,
Speaker 2: Minnesota had twenty one three pointers as they beat the Hornets.
Speaker 3: Well, the Hornets are terrible.
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 2: When they lose, they always lose by double digits. It
Speaker 2: feels like Shay gilgis Alexander MV. It should be SGAMVP
Speaker 2: let's get that started, because it's going to happen. He
Speaker 2: had forty one, so he's had thirty or more points
Speaker 2: ninety times since the start of last season. Next closest
Speaker 2: with that stat is Yannis with seventy two. Also Cabs
Speaker 2: beat the Heat. They're the first NBA team to qualify
Speaker 2: for a playoff spot. So far, they won twelve in
Speaker 2: a row. This is the third time this season they've
Speaker 2: had a winning streak of at least twelve games. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I like this song, this version of
Speaker 2: stat of the Day. I think if the vocals were
Speaker 2: a little stronger there, that would help. But Seaton, how
Speaker 2: about you? Are you picking up the ib off this
Speaker 2: stat of the Day song?
Speaker 16: Uh?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 4: So well that one I really like that one that
Speaker 4: we just played, and the other one that we played too,
Speaker 4: I think is really good. However, as I've said before,
Speaker 4: I'm down on all of these new stat of the day.
Speaker 3: Really I am. I am, I'm down on them.
Speaker 4: It's no offense to these submitters, but I'm down on
Speaker 4: the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I like to welcome our audience.
Speaker 4: In Yeah, I like to welcome them into it. Just
Speaker 4: in other areas, not in that one.
Speaker 3: But we were good with the Meat Friday.
Speaker 4: Songs, Yes, we were. Those were a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: They were Those were fun cover songs of things that
Speaker 4: we all knew and.
Speaker 3: We were like, oh my gosh, listen he's doing. You
Speaker 3: know your hamburgers are a wonderland. That's really. These are
Speaker 3: all originals. Well it's not. It's just stat of the day,
Speaker 3: staut of the day. Yeah, it's just not okay, it's
Speaker 3: just not for me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Didn't two days try to do a stat of the day?
Speaker 2: Do I have that correct? That two a day's recorded?
Speaker 2: Because to a Day's tried out for American Idol and
Speaker 2: it didn't go well.
Speaker 3: You know, he did a whose stats?
Speaker 8: All?
Speaker 3: Oh he did? Yeah, oh okay, yeah we had to
Speaker 3: meet Friday songs. We had whose stats? Do you want?
Speaker 4: Those are all listeners submitted. Those were a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: Those were great.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying to the audience, I want to
Speaker 2: welcome you in and if you want to contribute in
Speaker 2: any way, I'm happy for it. I'm open to that.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paul, I was thinking about a meat Friday song
Speaker 5: just the other day because it's been in my head
Speaker 5: on and off for years because it's so clever. Don't
Speaker 5: stop meat eating.
Speaker 17: Meat cooking and a smoke keeper and the smell of
Speaker 17: sauce and meat perfume. I can't wait to take another
Speaker 17: by the taskers.
Speaker 3: On and on and on and on.
Speaker 17: Working hard to get my film. I can taste that
Speaker 17: sweet meat. Still don't want pasta, don't won't rice meat,
Speaker 17: Just want more time? Stunt stump me, where's it? S tree?
Speaker 4: Really, Steve Perry, I can hear that. Yes, see, that's brilliant.
Speaker 4: That is fantastic coming content. I absolutely love that.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 2: Uh let's see how about Jasmine in Montana? Hi Jazz,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Hi?
Speaker 13: Dan?
Speaker 2: I just was wondering.
Speaker 18: I we were asking about the basketball questions like the
Speaker 18: beast heuros.
Speaker 3: And what popped in my mind.
Speaker 18: Was, I know they didn't probably play a lot together,
Speaker 18: but what do you feel about like Steve Nash and
Speaker 18: Kobe Bryant when they were playing.
Speaker 2: Together, Steve was nowhere near MVP quality. But if I
Speaker 2: go down through history now Shock and Kobe, yeh, I'll
Speaker 2: take my chances against anybody with those two, you know,
Speaker 2: Pippin and Jordan. But if you say it's Kobe Shack
Speaker 2: versus Pippin and Jordan a two on two game. I'll
Speaker 2: take Shaq and Kobe, I will. And you know, I
Speaker 2: find this interesting how the media is trying to say
Speaker 2: nice things about Lebron without getting to the point where
Speaker 2: they say Lebron's the best player of all time because
Speaker 2: he's got all the stats and if he would win
Speaker 2: another title, you know, once again you're going against For
Speaker 2: some people your childhood or when you were first starting
Speaker 2: out your career, you hadn't seen anything like this. It's
Speaker 2: the first man on the moon. So everybody has this
Speaker 2: thought image opinion of Michael Jordan, and you have your
Speaker 2: opinion with Lebron James. And I also find this interesting.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's open warfare, open fire on Lebron.
Speaker 2: I don't remember any players being critical of Michael Jordan
Speaker 2: when he played, but you have players now, analysts now
Speaker 2: who have no problem being critical of Lebron James now.
Speaker 2: It could be for things. I don't know how you
Speaker 2: could be critical of him the way he's playing. There
Speaker 2: were analysts who were critical of him, saying, you know,
Speaker 2: about being the face of the NBA that Anthony Edwards
Speaker 2: didn't want to be the face.
Speaker 3: Lebron openly embraced it. He wanted.
Speaker 2: He grabbed twenty three like he wanted. He called himself
Speaker 2: the chosen one. He was King James. He wanted it.
Speaker 2: But it feels like you can criticize Lebron, but I
Speaker 2: don't remember anybody criticizing Michael Jordan. Now, they criticized things
Speaker 2: off the floor. You might have criticized him because of
Speaker 2: how he treated some of his teammates. You could criticize
Speaker 2: him for punching Steve Kerr, you could do all of
Speaker 2: those things. But I don't remember analysts being critical of
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan the player Lebron. Remember, he doesn't want to
Speaker 2: take the big Sean. He's afraid, you know, bouncing around
Speaker 2: all these teams can't win a title in Cleveland. He's
Speaker 2: going to go to my like all of these things.
Speaker 2: It just feels like it was you open season on Lebron. Yes, yes, Martin, But.
Speaker 6: Do you think Jordan would have been criticized more if
Speaker 6: we had as much sports content as we do now,
Speaker 6: because back then, how many outlets did you really have?
Speaker 6: You might may have had Peter Vessi come in on
Speaker 6: the NBA on NBC, but really that was it. It
Speaker 6: wasn't any daily sports shows saying, you know, is he
Speaker 6: better than Bird and Magic in you know, et cetera,
Speaker 6: et cetera.
Speaker 2: But you usually have a contrarian a columnist. But nobody
Speaker 2: in Chicago was doing that. They weren't critical of Mike.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was a fascination with Michael. There's not
Speaker 2: that fascination with Lebron, which there should be. But you're right,
Speaker 2: no social media, but the social media would have been
Speaker 2: things about Michael the person, not the basketball player Lebron.
Speaker 2: It feels like it's about Lebron the basketball player. Yes, Paul,
Speaker 2: it does.
Speaker 5: Feel like the Michael Jordan was not a good guy
Speaker 5: stuff didn't really come out till at the end or
Speaker 5: after his career with documentaries and people comfortable talking about
Speaker 5: it because he was out of the.
Speaker 3: League's the same thing with Tiger.
Speaker 2: Nobody was critical of Tiger until you could be critical,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden people started to have opinions.
Speaker 2: Nobody's really critical of Michael. You're careful of doing that.
Speaker 2: I mean even now players who it's almost like they
Speaker 2: don't want to upset Mike.
Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin, I think maybe the book that Jordan Rules
Speaker 6: came out, and it was never about Michael joined the
Speaker 6: basketball player because he felt invincible as a basketball player,
Speaker 6: maybe to eight year old Marvin, but other than that,
Speaker 6: it was really judging him as a person and how
Speaker 6: he treated other people in that book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the Jordan Rules was a big that's a
Speaker 2: big deal. And when that came out, you're like, WHOA, okay, yeah, Paul,
Speaker 2: But you could make.
Speaker 5: The case even if Michael Jordan had all the media
Speaker 5: around him, there was no part of his game he
Speaker 5: didn't have at the time. I know he won Defensive
Speaker 5: Player the Year once. He was always in the top
Speaker 5: five scoring title, like eight of them.
Speaker 2: See, I don't I would just say his game. His
Speaker 2: game is critical of him as a defensive player. They
Speaker 2: knew if Mike wanted to shut you down, he'd be
Speaker 2: the best defensive player in the game. Like Steph Curry
Speaker 2: can't be the best defensive player in the game. Remember
Speaker 2: when you know they talked about Joker can't play defense,
Speaker 2: that that was a knock on him. When's the last
Speaker 2: time somebody said Steph Curry can't play defense? Like it's
Speaker 2: all silly, like you pick and choose. Frank Thomas won
Speaker 2: the MVP, and he was a terrible first baseman. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it mattered, But then you know, they'll
Speaker 2: pick and choose, and then all of a sudden, somebody's
Speaker 2: not a two way player, or oh he's not playing
Speaker 2: in the field, he's just a DH. Well, there are
Speaker 2: guys who were in the field who are detriment to
Speaker 2: their teams. But you know, we kind of just pick
Speaker 2: and choose what Michael could do whatever he wanted to do.
Speaker 2: If he wanted to be the best defensive player in
Speaker 2: the game, he would have been the best defensive player,
Speaker 2: no questions. But he was also asked to score thirty
Speaker 2: five at night. Nobody ever said does Iverson play defense?
Speaker 3: But you know what we hear.
Speaker 2: At Barkley says, as long as Larry Bird's in the NBA,
Speaker 2: I won't be the worst defensive player. I don't remember
Speaker 2: anybody saying anything about Allen Iverson's defense. Do you no,
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, No, But then you'll get a joker doesn't
Speaker 2: play defense. I don't know, he gets defensive rebounds, that's
Speaker 2: part of the defense.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yes, Bar In NBA circles, we fight eras like eras
Speaker 6: go against each other all the time, and a lot
Speaker 6: of times with Michael Jordan, people are holding on. Like
Speaker 6: you just said, nostalgia is the thing that's really keeping
Speaker 6: guys away from, you know, letting Lebron be you know,
Speaker 6: titled the Goat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the people don't there.
Speaker 2: They can be critical of Lebron and it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like that's a big deal where they were never critical
Speaker 2: of Michael Jordan.
Speaker 3: He is. Uh.
Speaker 2: Jim Jackson joining us on the program. Jim, thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us. How you doing today? You?
Speaker 3: I'm good man.
Speaker 16: Sorry about that, man, West Coast time got me all
Speaker 16: missed up.
Speaker 3: Man, No worry. Hey, we got a big we got
Speaker 3: a big.
Speaker 16: W last night with the clips. I will still celebrate.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: James Harden, James Harden goes for fifty. Yeah.
Speaker 16: You know it was one of those games, excuse me,
Speaker 16: where we didn't know what to expect coming off a
Speaker 16: tough loss against Phoenix up twenty two three. Kevin Durant
Speaker 16: Brooker kind of did that thing in the third fourth
Speaker 16: quarter and no Kawhi, but James Doug deep man, I
Speaker 16: mean thirty eight plus minutes again, and uh, the role
Speaker 16: players played well. Bogdanovich really started to fit into a role,
Speaker 16: and it's tough Dan as you know, trade deadline, integrating
Speaker 16: new faces kind of you know, Drew you Banks is
Speaker 16: in there, Patty Mills, It's it's just it's a little
Speaker 16: bit different. But it was a it was a great
Speaker 16: overall victory. Needed it for a team that wants to
Speaker 16: stay above that cut line at six for the upcoming playoffs.
Speaker 3: Best duo in the NBA right now is.
Speaker 16: Luca and Lebron, which is which is scary, I mean,
Speaker 16: because Luca is starting to fit in and trying to
Speaker 16: figure it out, and Lebron is acquiescing to allowing him
Speaker 16: to now initiate the offense, handle the ball, and it's
Speaker 16: only going to get better. And I think the biggest
Speaker 16: probably beneficiary probably is Jackson Hayes because now you have
Speaker 16: two playmakers that are able to attract defense, lobby to
Speaker 16: the rim, give you some other opportunities. So I think
Speaker 16: that team is in the West because of what's happened
Speaker 16: with Minnesota. I think Memphis is going to have some
Speaker 16: little bit of issues going down the stretch that the
Speaker 16: Lakers put themselves in primetime position to be a threat
Speaker 16: to Oka.
Speaker 2: See we were talking about it seems to be open
Speaker 2: season on Lebron. Analyst, Broadcasters have no problem being critical
Speaker 2: of Lebron, and I said, you know, granted, no social
Speaker 2: media with Michael Jordan. But let's say this was reversed.
Speaker 2: Let's say Lebron came before Michael Jordan. Would we be
Speaker 2: holding on to Lebron the way a lot of people
Speaker 2: hold on to Michael that Lebron all time leading scorer,
Speaker 2: like all the numbers that he has, and then Mike
Speaker 2: comes along and wins six titles in the first thirteen years.
Speaker 2: Would we be so quick to say Mike is now
Speaker 2: better than Lebron if it was reversed.
Speaker 16: That's a great question because you know the narrative around Lebron.
Speaker 16: It's very interesting because well, I'm gonna say this. I
Speaker 16: think we're critical in today's world on a lot of
Speaker 16: stuff depending on who we like and what we.
Speaker 3: Prefer. And it depends on too.
Speaker 16: It's I think it's it's not only Lebron, and the
Speaker 16: basketball side is other things outside of basketball. Okay, the
Speaker 16: whole Miami issue, when he chose to go down to
Speaker 16: Miami when it was to Cleeve, back to Cleveland now
Speaker 16: to La all that plays into more than just basketball.
Speaker 16: Mike did the same thing, and we judged on Lebron
Speaker 16: just being with Chicago. Then at the end of the
Speaker 16: year he un retired and came back and went to Washington.
Speaker 16: I think we would judge it the same kind of way.
Speaker 16: If Lebron had Jordan's mentality back in the day and
Speaker 16: Mike had Lebrons with regards to playing more like a
Speaker 16: magic I think we would do that. And that's the
Speaker 16: unfortunate part is that to me, greatness only comes along
Speaker 16: so often we've been blessed Tom Brady, a Tiger Woods,
Speaker 16: Wayne Gretzky, Michael Jordan. Now we see a Lebron, James
Speaker 16: and Steph Curry. Guys like this don't come along but
Speaker 16: when they do in today's world. But we did it
Speaker 16: with Mike. Though they did it with Mike early in
Speaker 16: his career. They really nitpicked that Mike a lot about
Speaker 16: he's not able to win a championship the way he plays.
Speaker 16: Let's not forget that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 16: It wasn't blasted across mainstream news as much because we
Speaker 16: we had newspapers, we had talk shows, but not a
Speaker 16: plethora of talk shows radio wise. Sports Center was kind
Speaker 16: of the main entity with regards to how we got
Speaker 16: our information and download of sports. So he was criticized,
Speaker 16: but it was all relative to that era. Lebron is
Speaker 16: criticized relative to his era, which is social media and
Speaker 16: all the other platforms individually, collectively and as a corporations.
Speaker 16: And that's why we get all of this I think
Speaker 16: backlash for or towards him.
Speaker 2: Talking to Jim Jackson, Fox Turner, NBA college basketball analyst,
Speaker 2: clips and the Knicks coming up tomorrow night, also usc
Speaker 2: UCLA coming up on Saturday. It's still hard to explain
Speaker 2: Steph Curry because you know, if you never saw him
Speaker 2: and I would say, all right, there's this guy. Mightbe six',
Speaker 2: three not necessarily, FAST i don't, know maybe, quick don
Speaker 2: a great, jumper but he's the greatest shooter in the
Speaker 2: history of the.
Speaker 3: Game like somebody would, go there's no, way no, way no,
Speaker 3: way no.
Speaker 2: Way it's what's the one thing that we should Really
Speaker 2: let's say you're a younger, player, right what should you
Speaker 2: focus on With Steph? Curry that if you want to
Speaker 2: be able to, shoot not like, him but you want
Speaker 2: to be able to be a really good shooter or
Speaker 2: get your shot off.
Speaker 16: His, footwork his footwork is phenomenal for how much he,
Speaker 16: moves because it's different when you have the ball in your.
Speaker 16: Hand you can, rhythm, dribble get your feet, set create
Speaker 16: some space and. Shoot but how much he, moves whether
Speaker 16: that's in transition and half court off of, picks so
Speaker 16: it's fundamental things to. Me, one his footwork in high
Speaker 16: squares his. Body, now he's gotten so good as a.
Speaker 16: Shooter sometimes he can turn his right shoulder and it's
Speaker 16: pointing towards the rim and a lot of times they
Speaker 16: don't teach you. That but as a, shooter he's become
Speaker 16: so much more comfortable with. That he can get away
Speaker 16: with it where a lot of players. Can now the form,
Speaker 16: release how he uses his, legs that's one. Thing but
Speaker 16: his basic fundamentals of his footwork is phenomenal of how
Speaker 16: he can run, fast gather his, feet get him squared,
Speaker 16: up and then explode into a. Shot to, me that's
Speaker 16: where the basis is. At and to your point, too About,
Speaker 16: steph think about. THIS i think the reason why he
Speaker 16: resonates so well is because he looks like anybody else
Speaker 16: can do. It A Caitlyn. Clark the reason Why caitlin
Speaker 16: And steph are so much alike is because here are smaller,
Speaker 16: individuals not as.
Speaker 3: Athletic they look.
Speaker 16: Like somebody walking down the street that just picks up
Speaker 16: a ball and goes play rect, League, okay but yet
Speaker 16: when they get on the, court they have this killer.
Speaker 16: Instinct they have something different about. Them and that's not
Speaker 16: saying that they're the. Best, okay that's not saying that
Speaker 16: they're the, best but that the best at what they,
Speaker 16: do and that residates with everyday people and it's a
Speaker 16: reason why they're so popular and they're really good people.
Speaker 16: Too So steph is again one of my favorites ever to,
Speaker 16: watch and had a chance to when we Play Golden
Speaker 16: state by The clippers at home to kind of just
Speaker 16: briefly talk to him before the game and just set
Speaker 16: as a basketball fan and a former, player how MUCH
Speaker 16: i appreciate what he's brought to the game just from
Speaker 16: a pure basketball, perspective the, fun the love that he
Speaker 16: has and he shows and to continue to do it
Speaker 16: as long as he, can Because i'm a big fan
Speaker 16: AND i love to watch.
Speaker 2: It final thirty. Seconds you can Have Steph curry's career
Speaker 2: Or Kevin.
Speaker 16: Durant's i'm taking, Steps, Oh, okay, YES i mean a
Speaker 16: little too quick, There, no, no because the SCORING i
Speaker 16: Mean Kevin durant is one of my favorite. PLAYERS i mean.
Speaker 16: Unbelievable but the Way steph has been able to get
Speaker 16: it done, again two different, people two different, situations two
Speaker 16: different organizations at the beginning. Out maybe if they were
Speaker 16: to kept oka see, together more, championships more, continuity that
Speaker 16: might be a different. Answer but, today What steph has
Speaker 16: been able to do and win with one, team that's
Speaker 16: what you want as a player because that's your legacy
Speaker 16: With Golden.
Speaker 3: State And i'll take that in a. Heartbeat good to
Speaker 3: talk to you is always thanks for making.
Speaker 16: Toys, ah you got, it.
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Speaker 2: i THINK i got to everything THAT i was planning. On,
Speaker 2: Oh Travis kelcey on his New heights podcast talking about
Speaker 2: returning for one more.
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Speaker 9: i still feel LIKE i could play it at a high,
Speaker 9: level and possibly at a higher level THAN i did last.
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Speaker 9: let my guys down in a lot more moments THAN
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Speaker 2: The Super, bowl he would have. Retired so you don't
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Speaker 3: Mouth?
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Speaker 3: Away that would be my one.
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Speaker 6: it would have been easy for him to maybe consider
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Speaker 2: Close i'd like to come. BACK i know how this.
Speaker 2: Works it's really really difficult to walk. Away but we've
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Speaker 2: LORD i was there For Sugar Ray leonard's first retirement In.
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Speaker 4: Now the best duo in THE nba right, now right
Speaker 4: now is, Well lebron And luca have about sixty one
Speaker 4: percent of that.
Speaker 3: Vote.
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Speaker 4: fourth Place Joannis.
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Speaker 2: But it feels LIKE i would Put tatum And brown
Speaker 2: pretty close To luca And. Lebron you surprised that they're
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Speaker 2: murray can be. GREAT i don't think he's a nightly.
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Speaker 2: a terrible knee injury played great in THE Nba. Finals
Speaker 2: BUT i wouldn't have them second on that. List that
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