WEBVTT - Attack of the Beard Cutters! 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:02.840 If you can catch an owl, you have fully earned 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.880 the right to dunk them a couple times. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.200 Campsite media arg. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:22.560 Rory. In this lighting, it's a little hard for me 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:23.880 to tell. Do you still have your mustache? 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.599 I do, but I haven't had a shoot for a 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:28.240 few days, so it's kind of filling. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:32.760 In well, considering that today's episode is extremely relevant content 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:36.240 for you and your facial hair. Oh good, So here goes. 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:38.320 If we lived in the same city and I snuck 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.599 up on you and like shaved half your mustache off, 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.960 you'd probably punched me, and I deserve it. But would 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:47.159 you also call the cops? No, so I haven't committed 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:47.520 a crime. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.400 I I mean, I know you. You're not a stranger. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:52.879 So well, okay, let's imagine that I was a stranger. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.000 Oh no, I kill you. I kill you. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.480 When I shave half of your mustache? Are you calling 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.120 the cops? Or You're going to deal with it in 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:02.080 your own way? 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.160 You're asking a comic, So there's a part of me 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.240 that really appreciates the effort and the high jinks. I 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.800 don't know. I actually don't know if I would call 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.640 the cops. I don't know. That does seem extreme but 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.560 that is also an absurd thing to do to somebody 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:21.200 I don't know. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.039 Well, I ask because a version of this happened, and 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.959 not just to one comedian in Denver, to numerous people, 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:28.640 Amish people in Ohio. 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:30.240 Oh here we go. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.039 Their beards were attacked shorn, which raises one of the 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.119 most important questions in the extremely long history of Crime Lost, 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.600 America's foremost podcast for the analysis of nuanced criminal justice issues. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.440 That's right, one of those burning questions I think that 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.160 haunts nearly every American. Is it a crime to cut 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.920 someone's hair without their permission? And what if that person 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:51.400 is a cat? 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.960 God, that's all. This is great for some reason. I 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.200 feel like if it's a cat, it's more of. 0:01:56.200 --> 0:02:00.840 A crime, hopefully, I would say, shamefully undercover matter of 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:10.640 unauthorized grooming. After the break, Hello and welcome back to 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.680 Crime List, the podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.559 the world's dumbest criminals. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.639 I'm Josh Dean and I am Rory Scopel. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.720 Okay, Rory, Yes, when it's time to lose your state 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:24.440 cops dash, how are you gonna do it? 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.440 Uh? You know what, I'm gonna blend it back in 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:29.280 I don't want to shave it off. I'm gonna grow 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.639 the beard around it so it gets to hide amongst 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:35.919 its peers. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:37.800 I know you're on the edge of your seat waiting 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.640 for this week's top story, and here it is. On 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.639 February eighth, twenty thirteen, the FBI Press Office proudly reported 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.760 the end of a wild conspiracy in northeastern Ohio, and 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.200 I quote, Sixteen individuals were sentenced today for hate crimes 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.000 involving attacks against Amish residents in Ohio, some carried out 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.920 by the victim's children, and the group's leader received a 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.200 fifteen year prison term. In response to a religious dispute 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.000 among members of an Amish community, the sixty six year 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.440 old bishop of an Amish congregation in Bergholt's, Ohio, directed 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.400 his followers to forcibly cut the hair and beards of 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:11.800 other members of the Amish faith. 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.639 Oh And I. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.440 Omitted one bit of information from that second paragraph because 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:18.760 I didn't want you to gloss over it. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:19.400 Okay. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.040 The name of the mastermind behind this ring of ruthless 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:27.040 beard choppers. His name from the Extremely on the Nose 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.960 Department is Samuel Mullett, Senior. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.560 YEP for Good Good. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.240 Also named in the case were Johnny Mullet, which is 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.200 just an all timer of a fake name to use. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.280 Yeah, that just seems like a kid who started smoking 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.160 cigarettes at about nine years old. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.640 So we got Johnny Mullett, Lester Mullett, and Daniel Mullett 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.720 in addition to Samuel Mullett. Then there were a variety 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.800 of Millers, a couple Shocks, and a Burkeholder. First of all, 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:55.760 this is an adjudicated matter, so I can say with 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.480 confidence that the sixteen people convicted in this case did 0:03:58.480 --> 0:03:59.480 what the government claimed. 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:00.680 They cut by. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.400 Force, Okay, But Jerry heard the evidence and found them 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.360 all guilty in the fall of twenty twelve, so we're 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.120 not falsely accusing anyone here of beard cutting. And before 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:11.440 I get into the details, though, I gotta ask you 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.960 a question. Do you know why the Amish grow those 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.120 extremely long, kind of unruly beards. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.960 I don't know the reason for it, unless it's just, hey, 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.120 this is a signifier that you're in our group. 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.200 It's because of the Bible basically, okay, which isn't to 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.520 say that this is a particularly Christian quirk. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:28.840 Either. 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.800 I'm gonna make a gross generalization here and risk cancelation 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:33.520 by numerous global religions. 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:37.159 I love getting brought down with other people. Please go ahead. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:40.359 No, but I think you can often tell how fundamentalists strict. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.880 I'm gonna dare I say unfun a religious group is 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.040 by the unruliness of their beards, Like the longer the beard, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.640 the more seriously religious. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.640 The more committed they are to the religion. Do you 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.120 think there's any chance any of the Amish got their 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:59.720 beards shorn and we're like, oh my god, I look great. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.400 Like they had any moment, like there's any epiphany of like, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.280 oh my god, look who's underneath there. I haven't seen 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:09.240 that guy in years. Oh my god, look who's been 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:14.039 hiding under that face blanket? Wow? And I think that's 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.680 the voice of a lot of Amish people. When you 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:20.640 think Amish person, you're like, oh my god. Yeah. 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.640 I mean if they look like Civil War soldiers who 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.080 are abandoned in a remote cave or Tom Hanks and castaway, 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:26.440 probably a tough hang. 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.560 Yeah, yeah, definitely a tough hang. For sure. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:31.719 Those are the kind of people who would disapprove of 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:32.640 many of your habits. 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.360 Yes, I think your theory is correct. 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.600 So the Amish see the beard as a symbol of masculinity. Apparently, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:43.080 beards are mentioned nineteen times to the Bible. Okay, and 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.159 the founder of the Amish sect, Joseph Ahman, I guess 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.000 that's where we get the term Amish. He decided it 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.640 was God's will to grow a beard, and it's a 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.799 sin to shave one off. But there's an important caveat 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:57.000 married men. Single Amish dudes do not grow beards, which 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.760 makes it very easy for the ladies. Oh so, no, 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.080 you can't, like, there's no excuse, like I didn't know. 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.760 He was married. Yeah, it's my Amish voice. By the way, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.560 that was actually right, he was married. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:08.640 Oh I didn't know. 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:15.240 Oh my god. This is good voice work that we're 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.400 doing here. Oh my god, he's married. 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.280 It's also the only way to tell an Amish guys 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.480 married because they don't wear rings. Okay, I'm teaching you 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.400 so much today. There is a lot of education happening 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:30.839 right now. But you know what, the Amish don't like 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.720 rory what a mustache? 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:35.400 Yeah? 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.240 Yeah, you want to guess why that is. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:41.480 I don't know. I'm only just now realizing that that's 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:41.960 the case. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.560 Yeah, Because like Amish people have the big beard and 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.760 no mustache, which is a look. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.480 It's definitely a look. But for some reason, it never 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.360 occurs to me that there's a reason for it. Obviously 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.880 it's because they're pacifists. Rory, Okay. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.480 Apparently, back in the nineteenth century when the Amish came 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.360 about in Europe, the British and French military is required 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.960 their soldiers to have mustaches. Oh, all right, feelings about that. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:07.360 So the Amish are a little more rebellious than we 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.680 have ever been led to believe. Yeah, because the fact 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.000 that they completely live inside their own cultures and never 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:13.960 interact with us. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.360 Or use electricity or any modern machines. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, outside of those things you're telling me 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:19.640 they're rebellious. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.400 So the Amish hate war, so they banned mustaches. That's 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:23.920 a statement. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.880 Yeah, I like that. I can get behind that. As 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.040 a guy who only has a mustache, you're the opposite 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:34.080 of the Amish. I love war. I love it. I 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:34.680 just love it. 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.600 So that concludes the religious history lesson for today. I'll 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:43.960 get back to our crime. According to the US Attorney's 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.000 Office for the Northern District of Ohio, which is based 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:49.120 in Cleveland, the group, led by Sam Mullett, yes his 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.520 real name, carried out five separate beard and hair assault 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.920 in four Ohio counties between September and November twenty eleven. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.480 In each assault, the defendants quote forcibly removed beard and 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.280 head hair from practitioners of the Amish faith with whom 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.400 they had ongoing religious disputes. Wow, so that's the crux 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.800 a bit. It was a religious dispute. Mullet was the 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.680 bishop of one specific group of about twenty Amish families 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.440 who lived on two hundred acres near Bergholtz, Ohio, which 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.520 is about one hundred miles south of Cleveland. The problem 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.080 seemed to stem from some family troubles in the Mullet clan, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:27.000 specifically a messy breakup huh. After the estranged husband of 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.520 Wilma Mullet, Sam's daughter was granted custody of their children. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.840 It led to the kids moving out of the community, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.239 and this did not go over well with Sam Mullet, 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.240 who sounds like a bit of a dick. 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.240 Yeah, I'm just gonna say it. Well, he is wanting 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:42.960 to keep his grandkids close by, right, I mean yeah, 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.760 I mean that's fair. I would also be upset, but 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:45.320 I wouldn't go. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.280 I wouldn't do this because he decided to mete out 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.800 some of his own justice, a little like custom Amish 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.559 violence here he I mean, look, he's a mullet. This 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.080 is the mullet way. This is the mullet way. Here's 0:08:58.080 --> 0:08:59.600 what he told The New York Times a year after 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.720 his convey in a jailhouse interview. We felt God was 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.160 against us, the community was sinning, and men were not 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.840 leading Christian lives. The inference there, I think is that 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.600 Wilma's ex was stepping out and wasn't the only one. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:15.760 Sam feared that his flock was overly randy, and he 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.480 really spun out over this. He instituted a series of 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.320 pretty radical practices, like he canceled the bi weekly church 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.920 services that are typical in Amish settlements and instead required 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.440 members to attend regular meetings that, according to the Times, 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:32.000 were quote filled with accusations and confessions. Going to keep 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.280 reading from the Times here. In that tormented climate, Wilma 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.679 Mullett concluded that her brother Johnny and other men were 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.400 mistreating their wives and children and having impure thoughts about 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.640 other women. One night in early twenty ten, Wilma and 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.440 another woman took it upon themselves, she said, to force 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.120 her brother and six other husbands to rethink their ways 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.720 cutting off their beards in front of others. 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.680 Huh huh. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.480 It's like an ari astor horror movie kind of. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.640 I gotta say, there is a vibe, there is a 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.240 little bit that there's a splash of that. I gotta say, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.640 outside of the assault element of it, I bet it 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:12.400 is really fun to just shave off a massive beard. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:13.000 I would think. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.480 So it's like a like a like a topiary, right, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.000 like when you have like a big hedge and you 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:19.800 just like, ah, look at those. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.200 Yeah, like there's a chance they like shaved a dude 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.480 and they were like, my god, you look fifteen. I 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.640 mean might be fifteen with the beard. We thought you 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:36.120 were fifty eight shaved. I thought you were in high school. 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.000 It's like when you see the images of like a 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:40.880 wet owl. Have you ever seen like a bird without 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:41.280 its feather? 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:47.720 It's such a specific example of rash, such a wildly yeah, 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:53.960 you know, it reminds me of a wet owl. I 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.320 feel like that's our next T shirt. I bet you 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.800 right now. One listener was like, I was just gonna say, 0:10:58.840 --> 0:10:59.520 wet owl. 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.040 So during the trial, prosecutors and witnesses described how some 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.800 of the defendants Sam Mullet's sons in this case, pulled 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.280 one guy out of bed and chopped off his beard. Meanwhile, 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.200 some female followers surrounded their mother in law and cut 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:17.960 off two feet of her hair. Hmm, man, Yeah, they 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:21.360 also started making quote errant men. Not sure if that's 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.200 cheaters or just men who dream of bare ankles sleep 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.000 in chicken. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.720 Coops from up to two weeks. Okay, now it's gotten. 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.880 Now it's a little more aster than we had previously. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.600 Now Sam claimed the door was never locked. He did 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.320 admit to one other very weird rule, which is that 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.199 when he caught two men fistfighting, he insisted they work 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:43.080 out their issues by spanking each other with wooden paddles. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.800 Okay, this is There's so much coming to light the 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:47.760 more that we dig. 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:50.000 I feel like Sam has some stuff to work out 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:50.520 in therapy. 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.720 I think, yeah, Sam does not know fully, he has 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.840 not fully formed in his mind what it is he's 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:02.040 truly into, and he's just trying everything. Throw every noodle 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.679 at the wall, let's see what sticks. I gotta say 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:06.640 I was pretty relieved. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.840 I mean, I loved the headline, but then to learn 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.800 that it was Amish on Amish crime because otherwise, you know, 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.840 I'm sure there have been some asshole teens out there 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.160 in Ohio or two. Yeah, but it would be a 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.160 much less funny story if it was outsiders or the English, 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.599 as I believe they called Harrison Ford and Witness. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.600 I agree with you. It does feel like it makes 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:29.839 it more like, uh, I don't know, palatable. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.240 Yeah, otherwise it would be kind of mean. 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:36.400 Yeah, otherwise it feels Yeah, otherwise, it feels like a 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.079 hate crime, despite the fact it's clearly fucked up. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.720 In the aftermath, some of the local Amish definitely did 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.960 not want to claim Sam Mullet as one of their own. 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.319 One woman, whose husband is an Amish bishop and had 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.840 his beard cut off, called Sam's disciples a cult and 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.160 accused him of quote programming their minds. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:56.240 Yeah, I agree with that. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.560 These attacks were never just about hair, said assistant US 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.800 Attorney Bridget Brennan after the convictions were announced. They were 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.319 about religion, which is, by the way, why this was 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.439 a crime. Coming full circle here, Rory. This was, according 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.440 to the US government, a form of religious persecution. The 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.960 state argued that These were hate crimes, religiously motivated assaults, 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.679 which is why they were handled by the DOJ's Civil 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:23.000 Rights Division. Sam got fifteen years in the slammer, four 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:24.920 other dudes got seven years, and the rest of the 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.920 gang up between one and four years. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:27.520 Man. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.080 Meanwhile, back home, some of those who stayed in Bergholtz 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:33.880 seemed to feel like justice was not served at all, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.920 Like Sam's unmarried and therefore unbearded nineteen year old grandson 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:41.880 Edward mast who talked to a reporter from WKYC in 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.280 Cleveland and said, the beard, what it stands for me? 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.000 What I know about it? Once you're married, you just 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:51.280 grow a beard. That's just the way, jamshit love how 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.880 fucking just right to the point that is Oh for me, 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.160 it just means you're married. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:56.600 Okay. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.360 As for the victims, he added, quote, they got their 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.680 beard back again, So what's the big deal about it? 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:04.000 Interesting? 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.760 Very interesting, That, of course, is not how the US 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:11.320 government felt. Yeah, from day one, this case has been 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.200 about the rule of law in defending the right of 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.640 people to worship in peace. This was never about haircut, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:20.080 said US attorney Stephen Deddleback. These were violent, religiously motivated 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.840 home invasions that left the victims bloody, bruised and beaten. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:28.200 Yeah. I love that. Someone's like a it's just haircuts, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.080 the guy is it? 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:30.320 Is it? 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.240 Maybe not quite? Yeah. 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.200 He called the verdicts a triumph for one of the 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.080 most basic and sacred freedoms in this country, the freedom 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.080 of religion, and the judge. US District Judge Dan Aaron 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.160 Poulster also pulled no punges. Here's what he said to 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.600 Sam Mullet before his sentencing. You deserve the longest and 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.080 harshest sentence. Sadly, I consider you are a danger to 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:51.640 the community. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.480 Well, you're right. He really didn't hold back in those 0:14:55.520 --> 0:15:02.600 two sentences. He let them have it. He really laid 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:06.040 it on him with words. And then fifteen years in prison. Yeah, 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.120 I mean that's I gotta say, that's impressive. Didn't I 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:10.640 don't know that I saw fifteen coming. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.360 No, I feel like no one did. I think Sam. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.960 Sam's gonna come out of prison as like a tattooed 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:17.600 gang member. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.120 There's no way he's not going to change. He's he's 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.200 into like colts. I think that one guy's right. It 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:25.760 does just feel very cultish. 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.400 I feel like this is the start of another really 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:31.520 good movie, which is like the kind of breaking bad homage. 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.800 Guy goes to prison for beard shaving fifteen years later, 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:38.120 comes out and becomes like an Amish mafia gang boss. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:43.400 Yeah, tat's on his knuckles, but he springs from jail 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:50.840 and it's called rum Springer. Oh yes, and his rum 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:54.920 Springer is in prison. So it wasn't fun at all. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.560 I mean, I can't believe we got to the very 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.560 end of the segment in rum Springer has only now 0:15:59.600 --> 0:15:59.960 come up. 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.800 It was well, hey, I'm glad we got there better 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.880 late than ever it was bound to because. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.480 We would have gotten letters. Otherwise they'd be like, wait, 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.200 you did a whole Omish segment. There was no discussion 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.720 of rum Springer. Yeah, that's right, all right. Well after 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:14.960 the break, we've got a very different kind of barber 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:28.280 shop ambush. Okay, Rory, I'm gonna show you a picture now, okay, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.280 Well Lane Is I don't have that kind of power. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.400 Can you see what that is? Oh my god, Oh 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.600 my god. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.800 The caption says, my friend's cat got shaved at the 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.680 vet and now she looks like a game of exquisite corpse. Yeah, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.760 it has nothing to do with our story. So that, 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.400 as the caption clearly states, this cat's shaving was totally 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.480 above board. But what are we what are we looking 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:50.120 at here, Rory? 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.320 It's a cat. It's really hard to even fully understand, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.760 but it's a cat that is shaved. In the middle 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.400 mid section of the cat body, the cat is like 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:06.320 standing up leaned against a screen door. In the middle 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.320 part is shaved like for a surgery kind of thing. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.560 And so the full upper half of the cat is 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.880 still full with hair and the lower half is full 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.520 of hair. And it looks like, in a cartoonish way, 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:22.879 someone just stretched the cat out right shaved or not shaved. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.399 That looks like a long cat. 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:25.879 Well, that has nothing to do with our story. I 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.720 just felt like you needed to see that, and you're right, 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:33.120 I did need to see that. Are you a cat guy? 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.080 I am not. I'm allergic to cats, and therefore I've 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.199 never developed any sort of warmth with any cats. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.560 So you've never tried to shave a cat or trim 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.440 a cat's nails, put a cat into a carrier. No, no, okay. 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.080 But I've you know, I've tried to as a kid, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.720 tried to hold a cat unaware that they're not like 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:54.720 puppies and I've been scratched. Yeah. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.199 I think people who don't spend time around cast need 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.680 to understand how hard those things are. Yeah, really understand 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:04.760 the depravity of our second tale Today, here's Bill Fitzgerald 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.800 from WTVR in Richmond, Virginia with our story from the 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.080 spring of twenty seventeen in the small rural town of Waynesboro. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.000 A bizarre mystery to share with you tonight. Someone's going 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.640 around a small Virginia city abducting pet cats, shaving them, 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.160 and then returning them to where they were found. Police 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.000 in Waynesboro say it's happened at least seven times to 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.600 different cats since December. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:28.160 So wow. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.680 Rebecca Martin, the cat owner who you just saw pop 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.040 up there at the end, said that what she found 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.199 motes upsetting was the shaving of her cat, Tiger Lily's belly, 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.760 not once, but twice in the previous year. Hurt her 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.399 not like physically, but it must have been mentally hard 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.360 on her, which she deduces because the cat doesn't. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.159 Like to be picked up anymore. Huh. 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.640 Anchor Bill Fitzgerald closes his segment with the most important 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:52.920 question of all at least for US. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.879 Police say they're not even sure what crime has. 0:18:55.720 --> 0:19:01.640 Been committed, cutting amash Beard's crime shaving cat maybe not yet. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.639 What are we? I love that the cops are like, look, 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:06.359 we don't even know the law. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.720 So this bizarre spade of cat shaving comes on the 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:16.000 heels of report from w HSVTV in which another Waynesboro 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.200 cat owner was interviewed about her cat having its undercarriage shape. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.600 When the station called the local police, they weren't super helpful, 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.320 but did pause it. One theory as to what might 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.919 be happening. Want to guess what the cops theorized. I 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.800 don't even have a guess. No, they believed it could 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.719 have been someone checking to see if the cats were 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:34.520 spade or neuters. 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.800 Oh okay, it was always the belly, it seemed in 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:39.200 this case. 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:40.960 Yes, okay, So how do you do that? 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:46.119