WEBVTT - Future in Ukraine - November 19th, Hour 3 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.800 Well we have come in one way against. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.320 As saying you a conscious cell will. 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:16.680 Be higher high and if you want a little banging again, 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.480 I come along Harry. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.880 Seeing he's not president yet, I mean, are you visiting 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:23.880 another Hitler? 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:26.720 Is that what you're saying? That's exactly what I'm saying. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.400 As a country, it's very difficult for people to believe. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.600 That racism and misogyny they're just alive. 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:35.600 And well, what a. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:38.320 Shocker that the people who see everything through the lens 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.120 of race and sex see their election loss as a 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:43.440 result of racism and sexism. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:49.760 Freedom is back in style. Welcome to the revolution. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:55.920 Coming to your city, going the way, are against all 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:57.520 and saying you a conscious cell. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.720 Sean Hennity Show more I'm the scenes, information on freaking 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:09.960 news and more bold inspired solutions for America. 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:15.240 Going up next our final news round up and information overload, Our. 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.720 Right News round Up, information overload, our toll free on 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:19.960 numbers eight hundred and ninety four to one, Sean, if 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:21.959 you want to be a part of the program now, 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.400 Usually when there is a transition and you have an 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:30.039 outgoing president that knows that an incoming president has a 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:35.280 very different plan on something as significant as a national 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:40.480 security issue. Uh that president doesn't make a bold, insane 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:44.720 move like Joe Biden made this week. And we are 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.440 seeing this unfold when it comes to Ukraine. It seems 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.720 like they want to trap Donald Trump before he ever 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.040 gets into office into having a never ending war in 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:58.800 Europe and one that could certainly spread far and wide 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.800 if we're not careful. And what Joe Biden and the 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.280 Biden administration decided to do is to allow Ukraine to 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:11.120 strike Russian territory with US provided missiles, and it could 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:15.000 change the course of this war dramatically. And the problem 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.400 is is now Vladimir Putin is responding and threatening to 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:25.279 use nuclear weapons of Ukraine fires American missiles into Russia. Now, unfortunately, 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.040 what this has evolved into is a proxy war between 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:32.040 the US and Russia, and we're the ones providing the weaponry. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:35.680 While simultaneously we're learning from Prime Minister net and Yahoo 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.560 that Wink and Tony Blincoln and Kamala Harris and Joe 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.600 Biden have been withholding aid and weaponry from Israel that 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.799 was attacked the worst terror attack in their history, and 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.880 they're fighting a forefront war. They have ballistic missiles being 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.600 fired out of Iran, have the hoodie rebels that have 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.320 been firing missiles at a Yemen. They've got Islamic Jihad 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.960 and his Bullah in the north out of Lebanon that 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.000 have been attacking them, and of course Hamas in the south. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.639 And this is a real battle against radical Islamic terrorism, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.880 all of it funded by the number one state sponsor 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.800 or terror. Okay, so they won't take a stand, they 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.480 don't have the moral clarity. And I don't know what 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:19.080 part of murder and kidnapping and rape and torture and 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.720 beheadings that Harris and Biden don't seem to understand, as 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.919 they cater to the radical pro Hamas wing of their party. 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.919 But it is what it is. So anyway, the Biden administration, 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.680 the very Biden administration that at the very beginning of 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.520 this conflict, you know, Joe Biden was talking, well is 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:38.000 it a minor incursion or is it a big incursion? 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.280 The same Joe Biden that told Poland they could not 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.160 give Ukraine twenty eight MiGs that they wanted to provide 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:49.000 Ukraine for their defense at the beginning and onset of 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.440 this conflict. The same Joe Biden that has put handcuffs 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:56.600 on the Ukrainians and forced them to use money a 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.520 certain way, telling them what weapons they can use and 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:02.560 can't use. So now here we have a new incoming 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.320 president and now they're willing to escalate this to the 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.000 point where Vladimir Putin is threatening nuclear weapons. Listen to 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.520 this report from ABC News. 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.160 Vladimir Putin has a new warning for the United States 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.360 after President Biden authorized Ukraine to use long range missiles 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.360 supplied by the US to strike inside Russia. Chief one 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.279 corresponding Ian panel starts us off from Ukraine. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.040 Good morning Ian, Yeah, Good morning George. Nuclear saber rattling 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.839 from the Kremlin this morning, with Vladimir Putin appearing to 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.240 threaten to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine fires American made 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:34.560 missiles into Russia. The Kremlin's saying the doctrine was updated 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.240 in response to what it calls the new situation. The 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.839 new Russian policy essentially authorizes the use of nuclear weapons 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.479 in response to what it calls quotes critical threats of 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:48.200 aggression using conventional weapons. Now, remember President Biden lifting restrictions 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:51.040 on the attack on ballistic missiles, which are of course 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.599 conventional weapons, essentially allowing them to be fined into Russia. 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.800 Putin has made nuclear threats before that have proved to 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.520 be hollow. The senior Ukrainian military saw he's telling me 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.560 this is blackmail, but also warning nuclear weapons are a 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.040 Pandora's box that shouldn't be opened. This move likely aimed 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.640 as much at Presidents elect Trump, who's promising to end 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.000 the war when he takes office, but he'll make that 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:12.800 all the harder. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.320 All right, pretty scary scenario. Anyway, Here to analyze how 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.720 bad this is and how stupid this is, and how 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:23.000 dangerous this is. Rebecca Kaffler is with US a strategic 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:27.520 military intelligence analyst, author of Putin's Playbook, and she served 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.280 as a senior official in the Defense Intelligence Agency and 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:36.880 work with the CIA's National Clandestine Services and Horace Cooper's 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.080 with US a commentator, co chair of the Black Leadership 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.920 Network Project twenty one, author of put y'all Back and Change, 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:48.400 How Biden's policies harm Blacks and it's been a best 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:51.440 selling book. Welcome both of you, Rebecca. Let's start with you. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.280 How reckless and irresponsible and why the sudden change your heart? 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:58.080 The guy that wouldn't allow Poland to give megs, the 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.479 guy that said they couldn't use cluster Bob, the guy 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.080 that didn't ordered Ukraine not to attack inside of Russia. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.440 Now all of a sudden is allowing them to use 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.960 American missiles to fire deep inside of Plutin's Russia to 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:12.960 escalate this war. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:18.880 It's absolutely deranged behavior, Sean. What Biden is doing is 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:25.960 effectively putting US homeland into Putin's nuclear crosshairs. And he's 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.080 doing it either deliberately or he's completely off his rocker. 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:35.280 Because remember two years ago, he himself at a political 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.600 fundraiser told his DNC donors that the reason why he 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:44.920 was calibrating US actions, why he was trickling down weapon 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:50.200 into Ukraine, is because the threat of nuclear armagainin from 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.320 Puli was real and he was trying to avoid the 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:57.960 potential of starting World War three. Well now it's exactly 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:02.800 what he was doing, because Pudi just signed the update 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:07.040 to Russia's nuclear doctrine which allows him. First of all, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.520 it lowers the nuclear threshold, right, so he can strike 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:17.480 right now Ukraine with nuclear weapons, and he can put 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.240 he can unleash non kinetic attacks, and he's already doing 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.680 it in Europe and on the United States. That will 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:29.560 include cyber strikes, state warfare, and other legal things with 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.840 the intelligence community itself just won by them as recently 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:35.760 as September. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:37.040 Well. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.320 The Russian Defense ministry, he said earlier today that they 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:46.160 defeated this initial attack, shortly before the Kremlin updated its 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.680 nuclear weapons doctrine to allow for nuclear strikes in response 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:54.360 to foreign ballistic missile attacks. That's a little scary, Rebecca. 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.320 I'll give you the first danceer on that, then we'll 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.239 get to our friend Horse. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:05.040 Sure. Absolutely, yes, five missiles were intercepted by Russia's aid defenses, 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:10.520 which are actually very very robust. One got through the debris, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.120 fell on a military base, and thank goodness, there were 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:19.840 no casualties according to Russia. But if the world casualties, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.000 that would have been a red line. So putting right 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:29.720 now almost certainly is brainstorming scenarios, was its general staff 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.800 and putting them into the program in software and the 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:37.560 which exact scenario he would actually use those weapons. So 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.920 now is the time to de escalate. It is exactly 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.560 why he updated this doctrine because he wants to have 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:49.000 the justification with the lower threshold to actually go ahead 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.680 and use those in the countering to the to the 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:58.199 Western analyst mindset to de escalate. So it's basically called 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.960 escalate to de escalate strat and that's the strategy that 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:06.960 President Trump revealed to the American people. And Trump actually 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:11.200 had a counter to it during his first Trump because 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:15.520 he authorized the US military to develop and deploy and 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:19.840 nucleative to see launch Creuse missile. And when Biden came 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:24.199 to office, he canceled the program. So he exposing America 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.800 to all sorts of threats and starting Worldwide three, and 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.000 he needs to stop. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:33.120 This is really a scary time. I know you have 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.560 to run, Rebecca of another commitment, but we do really 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.800 appreciate you being with us today. Thank you, my friend, 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.960 Horace Cooper. Let's go to you. Let's get your initial 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.439 reaction to this. I think they have created an extraordinarily 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:51.280 extraordinarily dangerous scenario here, which opens up the possibility of 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:56.400 a you know, are, a bigger war in Europe that 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.480 could impact other countries. And that is a scary thought 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.400 on their way out the door. There was no need 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.600 to do this, especially with all the controls that Biden 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:09.719 Harris had put on Zelensky in Ukraine the entire war, So. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:14.400 Let me just say this. This administration is the just 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:21.880 less than you need administration. First, they did that with Americans. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:27.000 American households all over the country suffered and struggled because 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.960 they had just less than they need. But they also 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:36.040 have done this internationally. That's been true with Israel, and 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:41.480 it's also true in Europe. This administration has brought us 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:48.640 closer to the brink of war because at every step 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.959 along the way, what they've done is just less than enough. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.040 Now that the elections are over and the American people 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:04.640 have spoken, this ainistration should step aside and let mister 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.360 Trump and his team with a much more reagan Esque 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:14.600 strategy take place. Remember now, Renald Reagan was able to 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:20.400 defeat the Soviet Union without going to war. What this 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:25.600 administration is doing is inching us closer and closer and 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.680 closer to a conflict. Their day is done, The Lame 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:36.760 Duck is ready to be served. Please please stop going 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:37.800 in their own direction. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.640 Why do you think they did this now? Knowing that 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.199 Donald Trump is going to be taken office on January 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:49.000 the twentieth, and his stated policy has been to put 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.200 an end to this war and have a negotiated settlement, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.680 and the idea of mendlos wars. Why do you think 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.480 they did this, Well, the plan is to trap. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:06.880 This administration into pursuing the very failed policies that haven't 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.800 worked on the last four years. Let's not forget that 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:16.240 one of the reasons that the Russian government has been 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.280 acting out the way that they have on the global 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:25.240 stage that Donald Trump was limited by the Russia Russia 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:30.160 hoax in being able to carry out his robust international 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:36.040 strategy about developing the type of relationship with Russia that 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:40.400 would eliminate and end these kinds of threats. It is 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:43.960 not true that everything the Russians say or do is good. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.520 In fact, most of what they say or do is 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.160 the opposite of good. But it is true that there 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:54.960 are some domestic concerns that they have about NATO, that 0:12:55.000 --> 0:13:01.640 they have about the encroachment within their territorial areas, and 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.080 that well, NATO. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.880 Has always been a sticking point with them. And remember 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.000 it was James Baker the famously said they would not 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.080 be a part of NATO number one. And the other issue, 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.080 I guess territorial issue which Donald Trump was successful in 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.880 keeping at bay, has to do with the Donbas region, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.840 which happens to be a mineral rich region of Ukraine, 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.800 which is why they should be paying America for all 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.760 the weaponry that Biden and Harris provided them, some two 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:34.440 hundred billion dollars worth. That's my thought. But the fact 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.080 is is now Vladimir Putin clearly but it's seventy percent 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:43.280 I understand of Russian nationals there is now going to 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.560 want that region and annexe like he did CRIMEA. 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.679 Well, that's where this looks like it's heading with the 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:55.800 commitment that our present leader, mister Biden is making. The 0:13:55.920 --> 0:14:00.760 point here is that the answer is not this menialism 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.280 that gets us to a point of no return. The 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.320 point is that there always was a need for a 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:14.600 far more robust approach, not just Eurocentric but globally. We 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.800 need to be sending this signal also to the Chinese 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:23.080 government with its territorial ambitions. What mister Biden has done 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:28.760 is signaled if China were to invade Taiwan, we would 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.920 take the same sort of incremental approach. What we need 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.960 to be doing is recognizing the president is coming in 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:42.800 and he is likely to take a chance at negotiations, 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:48.280 take the opportunity to let negotiations lead an end we 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:54.040 are spending billions of American taxpayer funds that are only 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:59.760 leading us closer and closer to a cataclysmic result. That 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.560 not the right answer, And after the American people have 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.240 spoken so robustly, this administration needs to stand back. 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.720 This is reckless and irresponsible. Should Donald Trump, in your view, 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:17.000 speak out publicly and tells the Lensky to back off 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:20.480 and to de escalate and tell the same thing to putin. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.520 I think actually what we should have are the European 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:29.600 leaders that should stand up. We should have the UK Starmar, 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:33.280 we should have the French government, the German government all 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:38.560 say wait a second, whatever this conflict ends up spilling out, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.520 it's going to be on our borders. Hold on, mister Biden. 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.360 It's not just that when you come for a summit 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:47.720 and we take photos, we're not going to include you 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:52.080 in it. But it's serious, like this particular threat, We're 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:58.400 asking you to re calibrate. Absolutely the direction we're heading 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:02.440 is the wrong one. This administration wants to be the 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:06.640 incoming administration. Mister Trump wants to be able to sit 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:13.560 down and negotiate an agreement that settles, resolves, and minimizes 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:18.680 the likelihood that Russia engages in this type of predation 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:20.040 going forward. 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.880 All right, appreciate your time and brilliant as always, Horace Cooper, 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.520 We appreciate you being with us. Pull free our numbers 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.640 eight hundred and nine to four one sean if you 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.800 want to be a part of the program. All right, 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.960 let's get to our busy telephones here. Let's say, how 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.000 to Mickey's in New Jersey? What's up Nikki in New Jersey? 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:39.160 What's going on in Joys. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.960 I moved thankfully from New Jersey and lives in South Carolina. 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.760 But what I wanted to let you know is who 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:48.960 was listening to your show yesterday when you were speaking 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:53.080 to mister Bhaar about the Daniel pennycase and the circumstances 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.520 involving the legal factors. Since I was in the New 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.320 Jersey State Police A ran the self defense unit for 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:05.000 ten years, I'm now retired self defense expert and witness 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:09.879 throughout the country in what I'm seeing is what is 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:15.240 happening to mister Penny is that people, particularly in my 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:18.200 experience in the Blue States, when you use self defense 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.320 or the police use force, even on very good cases, 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:27.000 they are being charged by the prosecute resolves criminally with 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.240 manslaughter or murder or any charges they can bring against them, 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:35.840 and then they are also making them defend themselves and 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.879 go through the court process, which is very taxing and 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.520 financing and emotionally, and I have not seen that in 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.920 the Red States. I'm very active even with self defense 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.479 cases on homeowners and civilians such as mister Penny. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:57.160 People have repeatedly testified that we're on that train in 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:02.320 this case, in this courtroom, that their lives, they felt 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.600 their life was in jeopardy. Based on the law in 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.199 New York City, you have a right if you believe that, 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.879 just if anybody believes that you have a right to 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.960 defend yourself. What they are creating now is a scenario 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:22.880 where the criminals have complete advantage. This guy on came 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:27.560 into a subway car. He threatened everybody that he didn't 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.119 care if they died, and he didn't care if he died, 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:36.240 and he was beginning to get hostile towards people passengers 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.200 that were on that subway train, and Daniel Penny felt 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:43.480 compelled to keep these people safe. He was a good 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:47.200 samaritan by every definition. Why this is even in court 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.600 based on the law is one of the reasons I 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.560 don't live in New York anymore because I don't feel safe, 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:55.480 and I had a license to carry in New York. 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:59.520 I surrendered that when I moved to Florida. And I 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.480 will tell you that it is sad. Who is ever 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:06.159 gonna want to come forward. Let's even assume that he 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.200 gets a not guilty verdict in this case, which I hope, 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.160 but they may if they find him guilty, he's face 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.080 of nineteen years in jail. This kid and his entire 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.399 life is going to be ruined. I mean, it's just 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.720 a shame that, you know, who's trying to help other 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.480 people and protect lives and this is what they do 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:24.000 to the guy. 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:24.840 You know. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.640 That's why I tell people all the time about the USCCA, 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.359 because if you're in a self defense situation, they have 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.480 an army that will get behind you of attorneys and 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.239 others that are going to fight the battle for you. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.119 And that's I've been a proud member of the U 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.239 s c CA for this reason for nine years. I mean, 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.800 there's so many instances we saw this member. There was 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.919 the bodega guy, you know, that defended his life, and 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.040 they wanted to put this guy. What was his name out, 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:55.520 but they wanted to put that guy in jail. It's unbelievable. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.480 That is correct, and you're seeing that more and more, 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.320 and you're when you were charged with these crimes. I 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:05.800 tell people you need, you need a good attorney, and 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:08.040 you need you're going to need a self defense expert 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.439 because again, I hate to say it this way, but 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.679 the Blue States are the ones that are charging the civilians, 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:19.040 the homeowners, and the police repeatedly, even when the laws 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.159 on their side, because they have to take in all 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.880 the totality of the circumstances as many factors. But it's 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.800 very difficult what they're going through and it's very difficult 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:36.560 to defend because it's it's so it's an interpretation and 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.760 you don't know what is going to happen in front 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:40.320 of a jury or judge anymore. 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:43.960 You really don't. I mean, everyone pray for this guy. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:47.760 I think all his intentions were pure. It's obvious that 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.440 there was a real threat on that subway trading, and 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.439 he acted and I don't think anyone is ever going 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:58.480 to want to act again anyway. We appreciate you being 0:20:58.480 --> 0:20:59.879 one of us, Mickey, Thanks for what you do to 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:04.840 people safe. We appreciate it. Sandy is in Indiana next 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.000 on the Sean Hannity Show. Hey, Sandy, how are you? 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:07.960 Hey? 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:09.760 How you doing? You're one hard dude to get a 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:10.600 hold of. You know that. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.280 I'm sorry about that. I'm available. I'm here every day. 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:17.760 Anyway. 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:20.840 I got five guys in my life. Okay, first one 0:21:21.000 --> 0:21:24.840 is God, my husband, my son, my son in law. 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.280 It's like a real son, and you and you're man. 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.840 I'll take fifth place with that order. I think I'm 0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.360 very lucky to be included in the list. 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:36.840 Yeah, you're on the bottom, but you're there. 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.800 But anyway, we're on the bottom, Hannity, where you belong, 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.480 But you're there. Listen, I'm happy to be on your list. 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:43.879 Thank you. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:47.399 Okay, you're welcome. But anyway, it's just a couple of 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.280 things I just wanted to make a comment about. 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.360 I ask a question, why does your son in law? 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.920 Why is he ranked ahead of me? I'm just wondering. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.480 Well, let me see. Well, for one thing, he invited 0:21:58.560 --> 0:21:59.359 me to his wedding. 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:04.280 Oh is that so an invitation by me to you 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.480 would would maybe put me in fourth place. 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.000 I need the invitation. 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:14.399 You might have to fix that anyway. I didn't mean 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:15.520 it interrupt what's on your mind. 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:19.480 That's fine, that's fine anyway. Every now and then I 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:21.879 think about Riley Gaines, how she is fighting, you know, 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.680 for these girls, you know, and they're sports and all that, 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.520 and I thought, these transgenders, why don't they get their 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:33.879 own team going and compete against each other? But I figured, 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:35.040 you know, they ain't gotten this thing. 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.879 Well, it's a great idea, you mean, in other words, 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:42.240 let let trans athletes compete against trans athletes. I actually 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.919 suggested that in the past as well. If you know, 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.280 we have title mind for women, if they want to 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:50.800 make title ten for trans athletes, let them, let them 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:51.280 have at it. 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.000 Yeah. And then when you think about it, how many 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:58.800 of these girls that trans to wanting to be a guy. 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.560 You don't see them trying to compete in men's. 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:05.600 Sports, you see, But they would claim we are discriminating 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:10.040 against them because they identify as even though they were born, say, 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:13.640 a biological male, and they want to play in women's sports. 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.040 Caitlin Jenner said it best in an interview that we 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:22.679 had together. I don't really care what one's testosterone levels 0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:27.640 are when they're twenty and they're competing. What were those 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:32.159 levels like during puberty. I mean that to me is 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:36.240 a tipping point. But with that said, then we get 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:40.479 into the issue of okay, gender affirming quote care and 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:45.280 treatment life altering can't go backwards, at least not with 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:50.639 modern medicine. And do we really want miners making life 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:54.760 altering decisions at such young ages when they might it 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.560 might turn out that they regret it, and then of 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.000 course they want to be able to allow treatment life 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.960 that the likes of Tim Walls and out in California 0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:07.280 Gavenussom without parental consent. Is they want to declare that. 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.720 I guess the state has more power and knows better 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:10.480 than the parents do. 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.120 I mean, it only takes common sense if a man 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:19.680 can overpower a woman and want a raper, So don't 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.000 that register with them? They're going to overpower them in 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.199 these sports events that they want to get into. You know, 0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:25.760 with these. 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:30.040 Girls, it's it's not wrong to say or state the 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:34.520 obvious that generally speaking, there are exceptions. I mean, there 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:39.240 are there are some some women fighters UFC fighters, for example, 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.520 that they would kick my behind so bad, you know 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:47.000 it would probably could do it under a minute because 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.679 they're they're that strong and better trained, et cetera. But 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:55.040 generally speaking, men are physically stronger than women. It doesn't 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:57.800