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Speaker 2: In addition to UFC three ten, it's also par Harbor

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Speaker 2: Day tomorrow. How do you plan on celebrating?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how did how do you celebrate that bombing

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Speaker 6: I love that intro. All those titles are very accurate.

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Speaker 6: Looking forward to the fights this weekend. Man, we actually

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Speaker 2: There's a like I always say, like, it's gotta be

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Speaker 2: to tell you this sucks, Luke. There's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Let's bang two wee uh, don't fire our merch at

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Speaker 2: Anything you want to say about life, healthcare, CEOs, pardon sons,

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Speaker 3: Alex Perreira won I think Fighter of the Year last

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Speaker 2: The worst advice I've ever heard anyone give in front.

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Speaker 3: Of them, the best advice. You chase your dreams. More

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Speaker 2: And you know that deep inside, okay, Because I think

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Speaker 2: They just got to get out of their own way

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can catch me tonight. Like they hit me

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Speaker 2: The fourth member of our team. Luke, before we get

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Speaker 2: I'm fired up for that, but tonight is Power Slap

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Speaker 2: is did yeah in Las Vegas? And did you hear

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Speaker 4: That made Reggie very unhappy. Wow, alright, Reggie.

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Speaker 2: I would respect that more than seeing legitimate combat athletes

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Speaker 2: Flyweight Championship brings your favorite Alexandre Pantosia, seeking the third

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Speaker 2: Asakura's size, power and attitude, dude, this is gonna be

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Speaker 3: Pantoja's nickname is the Cannibal, which is kind of fitting

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Speaker 3: No, it's not any of that stuff. But it's high level,

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Speaker 8: Been a lot of talk about pound for pound over

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Speaker 9: Yeah, of course, maybe maybe the fans thinking about the

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Speaker 9: But I think all the fighters, this is something huge,

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Speaker 5: Did you notice that your opponent was standing here.

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Speaker 2: Look, Osakura would wave to him and smile and he

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Speaker 4: But this kid can.

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Speaker 3: But h I actually recommend everyone. I think I saw it.

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Speaker 2: Just like when when Wayley knocked out Onrage that was

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Speaker 4: Let's listen to the.

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Speaker 5: Fans if they've been eagerly anticipating your your debut.

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Speaker 10: So the UFC fans have never seen anybody like me

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Speaker 6: Obviously, Alexandrea Pantoja has been you know, he's had a

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't have any feeling that Pantoja is too old.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for it, Luke, But at plus two oh five.

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Speaker 2: How realistic is it here for him to get the

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Speaker 2: gonna press the button, Luke. I'm going to take Osta

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Speaker 3: If there's no question in my mind Pantoja can get

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy, but certainly, at a bare minimum,

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Speaker 3: I just don't think that's in any way hard for me,

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Speaker 3: Luke's position here, because this is an interesting one for

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Speaker 3: me again. Pantoja Long Island Luke, you would agree, is

433
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Speaker 3: more well rounded, but in key spots Asakora is much

434
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Speaker 3: more dangerous. He sits, he's sitting at our friends at

435
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Speaker 3: DraftKings have Asakora at plus two fifteen. I feel like

436
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Speaker 3: there's value.

437
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Speaker 5: There, there's value, but I'm not taking it.

438
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Speaker 6: Man, you're talking about Pantosa's got fifteen UFC fights, Asacara

439
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 6: has zero. I know, long, still you got you got

440
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Speaker 6: a factor that end. Also you talked about Uh hold on,

441
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Speaker 6: let's back up.

442
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Speaker 3: A step, what about the miles on Pantoja.

443
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Speaker 5: Dude, I still just let me get my point out.

444
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: Let me get okay.

445
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Speaker 6: I still don't think it's whatever. Anyways, Asacar is two

446
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 6: best wins Horror Gucci and Cop. He got finished by

447
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 6: both of them as well. Also, Pantosia beat Cop. He's beaten.

448
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,959
Speaker 5: Uh you saw that top ten graphic. I could throw

449
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Speaker 5: it up again.

450
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Speaker 8: Here.

451
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Speaker 6: Look at this man. He's beaten everyone. He's beaten Roy

452
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Speaker 6: Val twice. That's the number one contender. He's beating Brandon

453
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 6: Marino three times, number two contender. I mean, I just

454
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Speaker 6: can't go again.

455
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Speaker 2: And Horror Gucci is his main sparring partner at h

456
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Speaker 2: at eighteen.

457
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Speaker 6: Ten point great points, so he's trying to avenge. I mean,

458
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Speaker 6: I know they're one in one, but he's trying to

459
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Speaker 6: avenge his teammate here. You know this is this has

460
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Speaker 6: Pantosia written all over it. My bet though fight to

461
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Speaker 6: go the distance plus two twenty five. I think it

462
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Speaker 6: goes long.

463
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Speaker 5: I don't have total confidence in Pantosia, so I just

464
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Speaker 5: like it to go along fly title.

465
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Speaker 3: See, this is the thing, This is why the Horror

466
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Speaker 3: Gucci fight to me is the Horror Gucci fights, I

467
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: should say, are so interesting to MEBC is like, yeah,

468
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: he lost to horr Gucci, but he also I think

469
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Speaker 3: he stopped them with strikes as well. I double checked that.

470
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: If I got that wrong, I'm going off memory. It's like,

471
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: is he better than Hora Gucci? Not necessarily, but on

472
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Speaker 3: the right night, he can absolutely knuckle anyone that good

473
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Speaker 3: into the dirt. That's the point I'm trying to make,

474
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Speaker 3: is that night tomorrow night, we shall see. But this

475
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 3: notion that like because Pantoja you know again, he is

476
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Speaker 3: a overall more skilled fighter and skills tend to win fights.

477
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 3: But Asakora is dangerous. He's dangerous in key spots, and

478
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Speaker 3: I don't think we can just look the other way

479
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 3: on some of those miles. So you know, you could

480
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Speaker 3: pick who you want, but I think Asacora winning would

481
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Speaker 3: not in any way be shocking whatsoever.

482
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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Ascoria twenty one and four. Overall,

483
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Speaker 2: this will be almost a year layoff, as his last

484
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: fight came against archieletta New Year's Eve of last year.

485
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Speaker 2: But you're talking about that horror Gucci series. He knocked

486
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Speaker 2: out Kyoji Horrgucci in sixty eight seconds, did Osakura in

487
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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and then when they rematched for the title

488
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 2: in New Year's Eve of twenty twenty, he got knocked

489
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: out himself two and a half minutes into the first round.

490
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: So he takes big chances. But that's the thing coming in.

491
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: But it's like Pantosia also has a beard, and he

492
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Speaker 2: also is going back to the shaved head right now.

493
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Speaker 2: And Luke, I don't mean to make this a stereotypical thing,

494
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,719
Speaker 2: but dude, these Brazilians they age a lot later than

495
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: everybody else. Let's can we wake up and say that

496
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Speaker 2: out loud, Luke, is that this.

497
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Speaker 3: Dude the Brazilian? I mean, can you this is a

498
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Speaker 3: serious thing, like you know, okay, deadly I mean that way,

499
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 3: but like I mean, I'm trying to be genuine here.

500
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine what MMA would be like but

501
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: for Brazilians. I mean, imagine if Brazil never got involved

502
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 3: and you just didn't have that, Like how much rich history,

503
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: how much you know about the fight game, how much

504
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: different heroic styles, I mean, you name it.

505
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Speaker 1: Like.

506
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: They have defied what has made MMA great from literally

507
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 3: day one, basically from day one. They you cannot understand

508
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 3: modern MMA or MME at all without them. And that's

509
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: not just true what they did in the United States.

510
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: That's also they're what they did over in Japan as well,

511
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: kind of conquering that market to a degree. On top

512
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 3: of it in early NHBOR that was still mostly Japanese,

513
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: but then eventually when that morphed into full on MMA,

514
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: you know, the Brazilians kind of took over from there.

515
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 3: Like that they are, this is who they are. But

516
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: you know, they're not superhumans. They're just humans. They're very,

517
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: very good at what they do, but they are just human.

518
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: I don't think it's crazy to favor Pantoja. It's really

519
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 3: not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is even if

520
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Speaker 3: you think Pantoja canon will win it's more of a

521
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: risky fight than just a pure skills comparison can show you.

522
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Speaker 4: He's a bandom weight.

523
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's legitimately abandon weight on the

524
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: world level, and he's cutting down here with that power.

525
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: And you mentioned about breaking jaws. Did you see those

526
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: X rays of one of us f where he did

527
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 2: that viciously to somebody?

528
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: I mean I was mentioned that for that reason, Like

529
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: he's got that kind of power. You don't see that

530
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 3: a lot, maybe a Bansam way, but you don't see

531
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: that fly weight. Again, Let's see what he looks like

532
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: on the scales. That's a big X factor too.

533
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 2: By the way, look, I'm gonna roll the dice on Osacar.

534
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 2: I'm feeling it. And I picked Pantojo originally and changed

535
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 2: it last minute here, but I'm riding that wave. Are

536
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: you willing to go on to record and put your

537
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: money where your mouth is under this non okay bet setting?

538
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: I mean again, I definitely think Pantoja is better. Okay,

539
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: I'll put a flyer on Asakora.

540
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think he's got a shot. I think

541
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: it's time.

542
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 4: It's time, Luke, let's do it here, can't wait either way.

543
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: But let's get into this cole main event welterweight division

544
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: number one contenders fight. The winner will face Ballah Muhammed,

545
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: who had to withdraw due to medical reasons from this

546
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: original main event. But how about the balls on both

547
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: of these guys not needing an interim title, just needing

548
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 2: each other. This is the most amount of victories between

549
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: the Chowder. This is the most amount of victories between

550
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: two unbeaten opponents in UFC history, besting the record that

551
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Atisanya and Paulo Costa had done. So we know what

552
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: this is coming in. But when we talk about the odds,

553
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: Shavka eighteen and Ozer with eighteen stoppages a minus three

554
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: fifty five favorite according to DraftKings and a plus two

555
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: point eighty underdog for Ian Maschado Gary so Luke Thomas.

556
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: We spent most of the week talking up the storylines,

557
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: talking up Ian Gary's.

558
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: Guts, the way he's carrying himself.

559
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: I've been completely impressed by that. And you do have

560
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: to factor in the sparring history between them, which we'll

561
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: get into in a second. But is it realistic over

562
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 2: five rounds that this guy can do this to Shavka,

563
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: who may be. Outside of taking some friendly fire in

564
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: the Jeff Neil fight, we've really never seen f around

565
00:26:59,680 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 2: in there.

566
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Speaker 3: This is my view about Rochmanov. You give him twenty

567
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: five minutes to find to finish, and I genuinely am

568
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: not sure who can stand up to that. Now, let's

569
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: be clear, that's not me declaring that it's impossible. It's

570
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: not what I'm saying. It just feels like, right now,

571
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: you've got a guy this prodigious as a finisher, where

572
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 3: literally all of his professional fights are wins, are stoppages,

573
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: somebody that good at stopping people, and again some of

574
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: that comes at risk that is maybe somewhat inadvisable, but

575
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 3: you get what I'm saying. That is a very very

576
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: tough guy to play prevent defense around. You could do

577
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: it for fifteen minutes. Twenty five makes me a lot

578
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 3: more skeptical. But beyond that, he is more skilled than

579
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: Ian Gary. Now, he's not more skilled than Iungary defensively.

580
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: Obviously there were some issues in the Jeff Neal fight,

581
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 3: but in general and certainly when it comes to offense,

582
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: he is vastly more or skilled, has way more ways

583
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: to win, has great combination between strikes and submissions. I

584
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: did a tape study on this guy. You can check

585
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: it out where you know he a lot of times

586
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: the who knock guys down. But even if he gets

587
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: some off of a throw, he'll four go gripping and

588
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: then control positions. For once they hit the ground, he's

589
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: immediately throwing ground and pound, bending over at the waist.

590
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: And the trade off is that he doesn't get to

591
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: control you, but he has a narrow window where he

592
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: can bomb on you unobstructed, and he just goes to

593
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: make that change and then builds off of damage from there.

594
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: Like he doesn't find these stoppages by accident. He's got

595
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: a system built on making you get punished in a

596
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: sort of cascading way the longer that time goes on.

597
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: That's really what he does. I just have a hard

598
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: time believing that Gary can do. I think Gary can

599
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: win rounds, yes, do I think Gary can stifle him

600
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: offensively for maybe even like big stretches of the fight. Absolutely, BC.

601
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: Gary's got good head movement, he's got great lateral movement,

602
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: he's got good defensive awareness. He's got some decent counter

603
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: striking as well, Like he can do all those things

604
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: poise the shit dude too. He's poised and and by

605
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: the way, like the dude wants to smoke, like fucking salute,

606
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: like he's gonna be there for it. At the same time,

607
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: if Rockmanov is probably at some point gonna be moving

608
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: downhill on him, I don't think he can survive that.

609
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: I just this too much offense of a guy with

610
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: too much skills who's gonna be in too much of

611
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 3: an advantageous position. Dude, Gary backs up against every opponent

612
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: he's ever faced. He's on the outside. You're gonna fight

613
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 3: Shovcot Rockmanoff for twenty five minutes, circling on the outside.

614
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: Good luck, fucking you're gonna you're gonna need it.

615
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: Good Hey, let's talk about that only hiccup on the radar,

616
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: because Shafcott's thirty years old, he's eighteen and oh he

617
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: stopped everybody. And obviously if you rewatch the fights, there

618
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: is this contrast between somebody who's so poised and patient

619
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: but almost takes vish delight in delivering and slowly breaking

620
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: scientifically breaking you down in violent force, and then finishing you.

621
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: I get while you have a heart on from here

622
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: to hanover and Lauras Senko is like donating money to

623
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: Kazakhstan to support him. There's something she's doing to with

624
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: a T shirt and everything because she loves him so much.

625
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: Because there's like this, it's almost glove Can, like you know,

626
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: we're glove Can had the cheesy smile and then you'd

627
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 2: knock him out.

628
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: Then you'd knock you out in the ring. But it's

629
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 4: even more sinister like.

630
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: Look, he approaches opponents meeting Shavka as if they are

631
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: fresh meat out on the hunting range in the forest

632
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: of Kazakhstan. He's never worried, He's never, you know, anything

633
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: but focused and ready. So what do we do with

634
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 2: that blip and the defense and the Jeff Neil fight.

635
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: Is that an area that you believe I Gary can

636
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 2: fill in and try to take advantage or are we

637
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: even overblowing that there's an issue there?

638
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: No, there's an issue there. I mean, especially in that

639
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: particular fight, he took a lot of risk unnecessarily I think,

640
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, he got to finish in the end,

641
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: but there was a lot of times he was getting

642
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: he was getting lit up, and that's a bad thing.

643
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: And the guy like Gary has shown in a capacity

644
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: the Jeff Neil fight himself with intercepting theees to be

645
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: able to like score on somebody like that. I don't

646
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 3: think it's any way crazy to be like he can

647
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: do that, and I know he stopped Uh, who's the

648
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: other guy he did off an open side counter. He

649
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 3: stopped him after getting back a little bit.

650
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.

651
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 3: Before all that, it was because UFC debut, whoever's uf

652
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: Jordan's somebody? I forget who was the UFC debut. I

653
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: can look it up here. His UFC debut for Ian Gary.

654
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: He had he hit him with an open side counter. Yeah,

655
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: Jordan Williams. Jordan Williams, and he he stopped him at

656
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: four fift and nine. He can do that. It's like,

657
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, I think he can land on Schofcott. I

658
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: don't think he can. I don't think he can knock

659
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: him out. I really don't. Well, okay, let me back that.

660
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: Let me stop before I get in trouble. It is

661
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: obviously possible he could stop him with one of those

662
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: or a head kick, because shof Cutt can be a

663
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: little bit reckless with that. I mean, these are things

664
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: that are you have to like count and take seriously.

665
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: But it's like, if we're comparing firepower and who's going

666
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: to be underneath it for the vast majority of the time,

667
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 3: I'd be a lot more worried about what Shavcot can

668
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: do versus the opposite. So it's like I do like

669
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: and also like Ian, Gary is going to be under

670
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: duress and moving not being able to plant his feet.

671
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: In fact, I suspect Shafcott's going to make that a

672
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: big part of his his approach, have Gary moving in

673
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: such a way where he can't set his feet, where

674
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 3: he can't sit down on his punches, and really let

675
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: go in that particular way. So again I don't want

676
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: to dismiss the notion like, oh, Gary's just all defense

677
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: and he could win by stifling offense. I think that

678
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: is a huge component of what he does and central

679
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: to his winning, but certainly not the only thing. It's

680
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 3: just a little weird for me to like focus on

681
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: what Gary could possibly do with legitimate skills when compared

682
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: to the vast array of demolition abilities that Shavcot's got

683
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: in multiple phases, multiple ranges, and multiple locations of a fight,

684
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: especially when Gary just backs up in circles against everybody

685
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: It's like, I take those things, but which one do

686
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: you anticipate being more likely as as a punishing result.

687
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, the interesting part about this

688
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: being a five round fight, which I love, is that

689
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: you know, not only a shafcutt finished.

690
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 4: Everybody, but no one's made it out of the third

691
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: round against him.

692
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: So there is that side of the brain that's telling

693
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: you if you give him twenty five minutes to finish

694
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: you as opposed to fifteen, no matter how good you are,

695
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: he'll find it. But I also want to see what

696
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: he looks like in those championship rounds. If this is

697
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: a somewhat competitive fight, there's still parts of shafcut that

698
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: we just haven't seen because of his dominance level.

699
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 4: Damn.

700
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: I love this fight because of the unbeaten records, the

701
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: moxie of both guys. But Luke this week Fight week

702
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: kind of started in a friendly manner if you remember

703
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: that these two have a sparring history about three years

704
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: back at kill Cliff FC, but it seemed to change

705
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: to a much more a higher level of intensity at

706
00:33:58,760 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: Thursday's press conference.

707
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: Let's show. Let's start off with.

708
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: The first clip when these two X teammates ran into

709
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: each other in the hotel. Good job, you're good.

710
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: Good guys, you ready way good?

711
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: Ready?

712
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: Are you always ready?

713
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 11: Always ready?

714
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: Let's go guys.

715
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 8: Ready.

716
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: You can see Charles Oliver, who's in Gary's corner there

717
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: was like ready to uh to be by his side.

718
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: Let's fast forward though to the Thursday's press conference and

719
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: the face offs that happened afterwards. Look at Shavcott's face

720
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: and the glare and the oh yeah.

721
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 3: Dude, Shavcott is looking at this motherfucker like he is

722
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 3: lunch meat. I mean, also, his head is enormous. I

723
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 3: didn't realize he got a big ass dome.

724
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 4: But dude, Eric, it does.

725
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 2: I feel like Gary's almost trying to like friendly butter

726
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: him up in a way, like hey, buddy, hey, you know,

727
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 2: I like it's one thing to be respectful, which I

728
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: like that they're doing that. They have no reason to

729
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: hate on each other. But it's almost like he's trying

730
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: to bring back the demeanor they had in those sparring sessions.

731
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: When this one's gonna be for real, and Shafcott is

732
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 2: already in the mode where he's thinking about taking Gary's

733
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: skin off and then putting the lotion in the basket.

734
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 4: And wearing it on the way home.

735
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: All right, so wow, wow, wow, let's show that footage.

736
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: If I may. One thing, I want to just point

737
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: out that I think it's kind of an interesting parallel

738
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: between these guys. You mentioned like they're undefeated records that

739
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 3: they're combining here thirty two, thirty three and oh whatever

740
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: it is. But also something I found kind of interesting.

741
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: They both fought Neil Magni, then they both fought Jeff Neil,

742
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: and then they both fought karate point fighters Thompson for

743
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 3: Rockmanov and then MVP for Ian Gary, and you can

744
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: decide who did better. I think obviously it was kind

745
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: of boring, but certainly Ian Gary did better against Jeff Neil.

746
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: If we're measuring, like, you know, issuing damage but then

747
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: not taking it, he certainly did better. I would say

748
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: Rockmanov did better against Neil Magne, even though Ian Gary

749
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 3: beat his ass. But I would say against the karate

750
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: point fighter, I would definitely give the edge. And they're different.

751
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 3: Certainly it's not apples to apples, but in that particular sense,

752
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 3: I would give the huge edge to shof got Rockmano

753
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 3: versus I thought I thought Gary kind of limped past

754
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 3: the finish line against MVP. There a little bit. I

755
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: agree with you so, but it is interesting that they

756
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 3: had these three kind of tiered things almost at the

757
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 3: same time.

758
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: And I don't discredit Gary's ability in that MVP fight

759
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: to just figure out what was going to be the

760
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: path to victory and get the victory no matter what.

761
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes you do have to survive in events. And I

762
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: always reference when I thought Blohovich looked terrible against Jockaray

763
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 2: for five rounds in a main event when he was

764
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: climbing toward the title, but yet he kept damage away

765
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: got the win. We would have preferred for Ian Gary

766
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: a fight before this fight, but the opportunity opened up

767
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: and he's taking it. Is there enough to believe because

768
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: Gary's biggest statement this week about the history of sparring

769
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: between them has been he hasn't fought at his most

770
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: dangerous level against me. But I haven't done that against

771
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 2: him because we were sparring and learning. And I think, obviously,

772
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: if we believe Gary is a rising professional and very

773
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: good and I think that's all true, you're automatically going

774
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: to kick it up a notch when you're in there

775
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: with a higher level of danger. But if you rewatch

776
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 2: that MVP fight, can that say man raise his game

777
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: enough to compete with Shavkat because there were parts of

778
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: Gary that were almost too safe in that fight.

779
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:35,280
Speaker 3: I I don't want to discount what is very possible,

780
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: but I think that, like I think Gary has earned

781
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 3: the position that he's in, and I think Rockmanov has

782
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 3: shined brighter in getting to the similar position. And I

783
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: think that's some of the things you saw on the

784
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: MVP fight. It's like, if he has some of those

785
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: issues at all with a guy like Rockmanov, the escape

786
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: hatchet is that he was able to take advantage of

787
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: against MVP simply will not be there against Rockmanov.

788
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 5: They just just won't.

789
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: Now, you could say MVP is gonna have better striking

790
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 3: defense or not get hit as easily, and there's something

791
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: to be said for that, absolutely, but it's like, dude,

792
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: rock Monov has never even been dropped much less like

793
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 3: the people act like he's like you know, it's like

794
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: Cody Garbrandt, like, oh, he just gotta touch him once

795
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: and he's out of there. It's like Jeff Neil is

796
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: a dominant puncher and gave him everything he could and

797
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: that was dangerous, but Rockmanov just walked through it. This

798
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: is what I mean. It's like, do you really believe

799
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 3: that Gary's gonna be able to hurt him? Certainly it

800
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: is possible, and particularly the head kick and how fast

801
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: he is that that less than the punch, is less

802
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: than the need. It's more the headkick for me that

803
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: I really got my eye on. But short of that,

804
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 3: which is real, But short of that, dude, Rockmanov has

805
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: a vast array of punishment arsenal. Yeah, it's just hard

806
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: for me to see not that he could lose, but

807
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 3: that he would get tuned up by Gary.

808
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: I can't believe that that could change the fortunes of

809
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 4: the fight.

810
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: Would almost have to come in a scenario in which

811
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: Shafcott was going downhill, walking him down, picking him apart,

812
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: and maybe getting to a point where Shafcott felt like

813
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: he didn't have to didn't have to feel the threat

814
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: of Gary strikes that Okay, if one slips through, it's

815
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: not gonna be a big deal. And it almost looked

816
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: like he got lured into that against Neil right where

817
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: he was just like, yeah, I can take this, I'm

818
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: not worried. I'm not worried, and then suddenly we're like,

819
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: oh shit, we're worried. It was probably a more aggressive

820
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: version of what happened when Jemaiav decided to brawl with Gilbert.

821
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 3: Right, yes, yes, to a degree, to a degree, I mean,

822
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: but even then Gilbert dropped Chimayav in that second or

823
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 3: third round. Remember he had he sent him and and

824
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: partly it was he was also off balance, but he

825
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: went tumbling, remember all that. Like that never happened to

826
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: Rock Modol, That never ever happened, like he you didn't

827
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: see that with him. So I certainly you can never

828
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: be too confident. You can be like, oh, it didn't

829
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: happen against this guy. There's no chance that'll happen against

830
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: this guy. That's a classic way to just end up

831
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: with egg on your face. I'm not making that argument.

832
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying there's a lot of people focusing on

833
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: some of the defensive liabilities of Rockmanov and the firepower

834
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 3: of being Gary as like that's the central tension. And

835
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: I feel like what's actually the central tension is that

836
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: some of that could be in play, but what's really

837
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: going to be in play is they're eventually going to clinch,

838
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: and when they clinch, what Gary does there to separate

839
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: is actually what's going to define the fight, because if

840
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 3: Rockmanov trips him out, gets on top, or gets his back,

841
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: he's going to fuck him up royally. That to me

842
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: is where it all comes down to. So that take takedown, defense, separating,

843
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 3: you know, risk control, wizarding, framing, whatever he's gonna have

844
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 3: to do depending on the scenario. Once he's once, once

845
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 3: Rockmanov collects him, so to speak, that's where the fight

846
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: to me is won and lost. Not is Rockmanov gonna

847
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: walk into a head kick possible, but less likely to

848
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: me than aforementioned.

849
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: Well Long Island. Look if you could tee up the

850
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 2: footage of them three years ago and kill Cliff FC

851
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: in South Florida, get a little sparring touch and I

852
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: and I fully resp back. Look at sparring. They're not

853
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: going full speed, they're not going crazy.

854
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, and also also hold on, hold on. This

855
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: is I want to make a I want to make

856
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: a very important point. If I may be seeing, I

857
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 3: apologize for cutting you off. Sure, look at where they are, everybody.

858
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 3: This is to me one of the big problems even

859
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: this gym we've been in this gym, nice people, fantastic facility.

860
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 3: You can absolutely become a UFC champion here. It's got

861
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: nothing to do with this gym in particular. It's how

862
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: all MMA gyms i've seen are basically run. Look at

863
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: where they're doing the striking. They're in open space. Okay,

864
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: So in people think sparring is like, oh, I'm trying

865
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: to win, just not going as hard. That is not

866
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: what sparring is. Sparring can be that, but it can

867
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 3: also be any number of things. The reason I bring

868
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: this up is when you're on an open mat like

869
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 3: that with a with you know, forty other fighters, you

870
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 3: don't get to work on your cage control, either in

871
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: corraling or escaping, because you just don't have the space

872
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: the same kind of spatial dimensions. It's not possible. You're

873
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 3: working on other things. You're working on touch, reaction, baiting,

874
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: reaction jab turning, the kinds of things you can do

875
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: in a closed and confined space where you're kind of

876
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: rotating aground each other. That is not what happens in

877
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: the octagon. And I actually feel like a lot of

878
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: MMA fighters, including at the UFC level, do a lot

879
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: of sparring, which again I think some sparring on the

880
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: mat on the floor like that is not only okay great,

881
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: but not enough sparring inside the cage, working on lateral

882
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: movement and getting away because you've done most of your striking.

883
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: Sparring on an open mat like that, it will mess

884
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 3: them up over the long term. Now Gary's got good defense.

885
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: The point I'm trying to make is bc for fans

886
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: reading into this, and there's not a lot to read

887
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: into it anyway. This is not one of those scenarios

888
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: you can really look at, both because of the time

889
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 3: that has elapsed and the spatial constraints that make an

890
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: unrealistic scenario relative to what we're going to get to write.

891
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: And it could have just been like opening warm ups too,

892
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: where they're just kind of shattle boxing around and just

893
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: playing chess, you know, on the feet like that.

894
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: You see you've been to boxing gyms. I've been to

895
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: boxing gyms. They'll do that in open space there too,

896
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: but only for like touch games, you know, like real

897
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 3: individualized training. Whenever they're in like any kind of sparring stuff,

898
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: it's in the ring. That's why they have much better

899
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: movement overall.

900
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: So I was gonna say they definitely have had sparring

901
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: time in the cage or the ring surface there, because

902
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: we've talked about the fact that or I'm sorry Shavkatt

903
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: talked this week at the at the media conference by

904
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: ultimately saying that he's that Gary's wife filmed it but

905
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: didn't ask permission to show footage. So when some of

906
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: the footage like this leaked out, it's kind of fifty

907
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: to fifty whatever footage. And then Shafcott was like, oh,

908
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: by the way, like I put him, you know, I

909
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: tapped him out. And of course you can argue, which

910
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: Gary did, and we'll get to his response in a

911
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: second that that happens. I think you have to realize

912
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: that it's sparring, so it's problem solving and you are

913
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: going to put yourself in purposefully dangerous situations to continue

914
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 2: to train and learn and how to navigate out of that.

915
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: It does not fully simulate a fight, but I have it.

916
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: Before we get to Gary's take on that, I do

917
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: have an important question for you. It might give you

918
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: a level of confidence, Luke. I never thought Ryan Garcia

919
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: would come through against Hainy like you did earlier this year.

920
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: There were a lot of factors that contributed to that,

921
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: but six fights together in the Amateurs, Ryan won three

922
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: of them, and then we saw that leak sparring footage

923
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: where Ryan was landing that left hook earlier in their

924
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: pro careers, like at will against him. Do you think

925
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 2: there's something to the idea that Gary can be this

926
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: confident because he's done time with this guy, he's gotten

927
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: tapped out before he's been in there. While we can

928
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: always add the asterisk of they weren't going one hundred

929
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: miles an hour against each other, I'm wondering how much

930
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: that is a gift for Gary in this scenario, that

931
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: he's not afraid of him.

932
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: So I definitely think it plays a role absolutely, And

933
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: I'll tell you exactly what. If you spar enough with someone,

934
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 3: in particular in the wrestling and jiu jitsu, you'll find

935
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: areas where, like you can rest, you'll find areas or

936
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 3: moments or scenarios that you can force an entanglement that

937
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: has a particular way of shutting down this person's game,

938
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 3: and not just from watching tape, but from feeling it

939
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: and being like, oh right, this person might have a

940
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: tricky bunch of setups for different things and you've been

941
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: hit with them, and now you know, I cannot leave

942
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: my arm in a shallow underhook and when we're fifty

943
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: to fifty, because every time I did, when we were sparring,

944
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 3: you know, I got frequent flyer miles for it. Like absolutely,

945
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: you can know where the minds are in the minefield

946
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 3: and you can kind of tiptoe around it. That is

947
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 3: a very, very very real thing that can absolutely aid you.

948
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: And listen, like when you train at a jiu jitsu

949
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 3: gym or a wrestling gym or mma gym and you

950
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: spar with the same people over time, they figure out

951
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: your game, even if you're coming up at the same

952
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 3: time or they're new and whatever. Like you spar enough times,

953
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 3: they can figure out your game and you can figure

954
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: out their game. And that's why it's good to go

955
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: and train other places. It's good to go compete at times,

956
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: depending on what your goals are, because you need people

957
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: that are not They don't know how to shut you

958
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: down because they've sparred with you, you know, one hundred

959
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: and fifty times. They've never seen this stuff before. Gary's

960
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: definitely going to have some advantages and shof got to

961
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 3: an extent as well. I think more on the defensive

962
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: end when it comes to that kind of thing. The

963
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: problem for me is, while I think that could extend

964
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: the life of the fight or keep Gary safe in

965
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: certain circumstances, I do not believe it to be enough

966
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 3: to stop what I consider to be something close to inevitable.

967
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: It's a little strong too, but a better way to

968
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: put in my BBC. It can absolutely give him some

969
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: help here, can it tip the balance enough to put

970
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: the fight in his favor? I am personally skeptical of that,

971
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: while recognizing there is real value.

972
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 2: Sure, Sure, let's put this topic to bed by hearing

973
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: directly from Ian mischadele Gary on this topic.

974
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 12: Heard shavcats perspective of your spars before. I'm curious if

975
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 12: you could let us in on what you felt you

976
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 12: took away from those. He's phenomenally talented, He's an amazing fighter.

977
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 12: But I think he and I will both tell you

978
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 12: that we've never fought hard in the gym.

979
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: We've not far.

980
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 11: We've always been learning and growing and practicing and fighting

981
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 11: is completely different. And what happens in the gym is

982
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 11: cul fair play. If you have any success in the gym, great,

983
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 11: I've had success, he's had success. We have to do

984
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 11: that in the bright lights, in the big stage. That's

985
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 11: what it's all about. He's only succeeded. I've only succeeded.

986
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 11: So now let's put the both of us on those

987
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 11: bright lights, on that big stage, co main event, all

988
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 11: the marbles on the line, and let's go have some

989
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 11: fun and see what happens.

990
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 12: So it would be fair to say, right, he told

991
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 12: Ariel that he made you tap in sparring, it'd be

992
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 12: fair to say that if he's taking anything away from

993
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 12: that experience, he would be mistaken.

994
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 6: To do so.

995
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 11: If he wants to latch onto a moment of success

996
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 11: in training from two years ago and thinks on the

997
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 11: same fighter and I was, then, then he would be

998
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 11: sadly mistaken. I don't believe he is going to be

999
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 11: latching onto anything like that. I believe he is being

1000
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 11: honest and he's saying this happened, which it did. I'm

1001
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 11: not turning around his say it didn't. But if I

1002
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 11: see here and tell you the fucking the names I've

1003
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 11: gone out and beaten Spiring, it's it's just not relevant

1004
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 11: and it would be a very different conversation so he

1005
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 11: has to do it on Saturday night, and I'm gonna

1006
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 11: got down. I'm gonna show him that I'm far better

1007
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 11: than he could ever imagine.

1008
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 2: Dude, that he handled that well because he's right.

1009
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: He's basically right in this in the sense of what

1010
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: he's saying about what matters. He's not denying that Schafcott

1011
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 3: choked him out. People think that's a big deal. All

1012
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: of your favorite fighters have been choked out by their

1013
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: sparring partners and training all of them all did.

1014
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: Rock morta furry tap out Missus Thomas cheerfuls. She did?

1015
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: She did, she did, although she's better to begin with yeah, yeah,

1016
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 3: but like it's just it's a it's a simple reality.

1017
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 3: And then probably you know, has I Gary tapped out?

1018
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 3: Uh Shofcott? Probably a time or two as well, Like

1019
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: there is a trade in exchange now one person over

1020
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 3: the course of time is if there's obviously a difference,

1021
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: is going to get the better over the course of time.

1022
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: But people forget, dude, you could do armbar drills from

1023
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: Matt Well. The person has to escape and if they

1024
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: you tap them, they have you know, that counts or

1025
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 3: getting out of guillotines or you know, triangle defense or passing,

1026
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 3: and you know there's all kinds of scenarios you can

1027
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 3: set up or yes, somebody can put you to sleep.

1028
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: In training, it's fucking high level mma fighting. Like what

1029
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: is it people think happens in training? It's not just

1030
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: one thing. There's any number of granular situations that can

1031
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 3: lead to this. I tend to think that what Shafkat

1032
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 3: has shown gives us an indication that he probably is

1033
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 3: the better overall grappler. But to Ian Gary's point, they're different.

1034
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 3: Now he's not gonna let him get there. It's fighting,

1035
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 3: not training. Uh, And he's right that there are absolutely huge,

1036
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: huge differences between them. You just have to decide is

1037
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 3: it has enough time elapse and has there been enough

1038
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 3: growth for any of those things that really matter anymore?

1039
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: You know, I'm with you on that one. Now we

1040
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: come down to the prediction in the pick. Is there

1041
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: good value here on Ian Michadegary at plus two eighty five.

1042
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean certainly that you can already you know, you

1043
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: can just jump out and answer that and say there is.

1044
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: But Luke, I can't find that path to victory. And

1045
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: that's why I'm so excited about the fight because if

1046
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: he does it, given his potential for star power, this

1047
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: is such a breakthrough moment because you had one vision

1048
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: of how this would go coming in, even though it's

1049
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: relatively close and they're both unbeaten. I would love storyline wise,

1050
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: coverage wise for this to be a breakthrough moment. But

1051
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: Shafcott's still that dude man. Okay, So, Luke, I think

1052
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: the bigger question to you, certainly from a betting standpoint,

1053
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 2: is can Gary become the first opponent to go the distance?

1054
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 3: Ooh ooh, that's an interesting one. No, I think Shafcott

1055
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: stops him. I think Shafcott, I think give me shot

1056
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 3: cut by sub I think he's gonna stop him. I'm

1057
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 3: be curious to see what along isld.

1058
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: Luke, Yeah, Long Island degenerate.

1059
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: What do you got over here?

1060
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 6: I'm going safe if I took the over one and

1061
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 6: a half, I do think shovkop by finish is probably

1062
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 6: what happens. But I was talking to Mikey pre show,

1063
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 6: and a few people have been saying this that like Ian,

1064
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 6: Gary could totally win by decision that is definitely on

1065
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 6: the table.

1066
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 5: I'm not putting my money there, but I know a

1067
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 5: lot of people have, so he'd have to have.

1068
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: A way to avoid hell he'd had he would need

1069
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: a weapon or a disc What is what.

1070
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: Is the theory for how he keeps Rockmanov off of

1071
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 3: him for twenty five minutes? That's the question.

1072
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 6: I think he just clinches him against the cage and holds.

1073
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 6: I think it's a rock I think that's the path. Luke,

1074
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 6: I think. I don't know, or defensively, I don't know.

1075
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: I really don't know. I'm not betting on Ian. I'm

1076
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 6: not the one to make the argument for Ian. I'm

1077
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 6: just saying I know a lot of people are.

1078
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: On I think he can. I think the argument is

1079
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: he can get into a bad spot and survive, survive

1080
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 3: and then win some rounds popping him on the outside

1081
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 3: that I can see. And also like, let's let's let's

1082
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 3: change the scenario a little bit. B See, imagine everything

1083
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: was the same except Gary had like really good takedown. Right,

1084
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: You'd be like, okay, that to me, that would change

1085
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: the equation a lot. That would be like, yes, there

1086
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,399
Speaker 3: are places you can like control and I'm not gonna

1087
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: say hide, but stay out of the way of the

1088
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: onslaught that Rockmanov brings that would be a little bit different.

1089
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that that Gary has bad wrestling,

1090
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 3: It's really not my point. But does he have that

1091
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: kind of wrestling? I don't think that he does. So

1092
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: I can see a case for him, but you have

1093
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: to tell me what the map is.

1094
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 2: I know, you have to tell me, if he's going

1095
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: to win three of these rounds, what will be the

1096
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: offensive change that does it? Is it that he you

1097
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: know that he brings the threat of the kick and

1098
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 2: he begins to keep Shafkat at range and can outwork

1099
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 2: him there, or you know, is it boxing? Is there

1100
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: is there a gear of footwork and movement that we

1101
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: haven't seen from me and Gary.

1102
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 3: I think one thing that I am kind of looking

1103
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: towards is kind of interesting at times. So here's what

1104
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 3: Here's why I don't buy that he's going to control

1105
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: him in the clinch. I think that it is true Rockmanov.

1106
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it's lazy in the clinch, but

1107
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 3: one thing that I saw in a few of his

1108
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 3: fights is sometimes he'll get fifty to fifty right, he'll

1109
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: get over under and he'll kind of hang out a

1110
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: little bit purposefully. He's trying to get the other guy

1111
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: to move in some kind of direction or to sag

1112
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: their weight in a direction, and he doesn't try to

1113
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: force it. He kind of lets it happen. I kind

1114
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: of wonder what Gary, who had to do a lot

1115
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 3: of clinch breaking against Jeff Neil, had to do clinch

1116
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 3: breaking against Neil Magnet to an extent, well less so,

1117
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 3: but let's say mostly against Jeff Neil. Training with Charles Olavera,

1118
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: who's got a very good clinch, but more of an

1119
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 3: offensive clinch, right, I wonder if he might try and

1120
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: sneak in some stuff to a Rockmanov who's kind of

1121
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: hanging out and he fires a knee up the middle

1122
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: and that jacks his shit up, and that could be

1123
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 3: something that really turns the tide of the fight, or

1124
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: maybe just the round itself. That to me is kind

1125
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: of an interesting little interplay. But like the notion that

1126
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: he's going to control rock Monov in the clinch, don't

1127
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: be fooled. You can go and look see Rockmanov get

1128
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: his back pressed up against the fence by guys like

1129
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: Preserish and Harris and whatnot. It is intentional because he

1130
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: then takes them for a ride based off of some

1131
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 3: flip trip or throw that he's got going on. But BC,

1132
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: could Gary fuck him up in the clinch with like

1133
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: a more traditional tie boxing style clinch. I accept that

1134
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 3: as a real threat.

1135
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 2: Yes, I do accept that Preserus looked like a muscular

1136
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: child against him. That was a visual difference you could

1137
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: see right when that fight started.

1138
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: Holy Craft.

1139
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 3: Yeah he's a good grappler, but you know, you saw

1140
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: what Rockmanov did to him. Rockmanov made that dude give

1141
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 3: up in the middle of a fight, like I don't

1142
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 3: want to be in this shit anymore.

1143
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: Well, look, if we're gonna mention that, you know, Pantosia

1144
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 2: is certainly training with Horror. Guccio's got that history over there.

1145
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: Charles doesn't have history fighting this Kosak. But does the

1146
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: Charles olivera factor? Does I mean? Look, Ian Garrison, Gary

1147
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: seems to be Robin elbows in good circles? Is this say?

1148
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: I mean people have brought in Henry s Hudo before,

1149
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: you know, as a consult in camp and raise their game.

1150
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: Maybe we see Gary raise that game, Luke. Maybe this

1151
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: is that moment where you know that the MVP fight

1152
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: he was too safe. But you can't be too safe

1153
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: against this guy on Saturday. Gary's going to have to

1154
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: be the He's gonna have to be the lead star

1155
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: of this movie.

1156
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: Luke.

1157
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: I just.

1158
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: Here's my one view about rockmanoff. I just don't think

1159
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 3: you can beat him being defensive. I don't. I don't

1160
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: think you can stick and move on him for twenty

1161
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: five minutes. So you have to ask yourself, is you

1162
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 3: have to do some sticking and moving? Now, don't misunderstand me.

1163
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you can't do sticking and moving. You

1164
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: have to do a big part of that, But that

1165
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: alone is not going to get the job done. You

1166
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 3: gotta at some point meet him head on. What is

1167
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 3: Gary going to do to meet him head on to

1168
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: win this fight? And I'm not saying he can't do it?

1169
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 3: Of course, MMA is fucking bananas, of course he can't.

1170
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, for the people who think that Gary

1171
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 3: can win, what is your theory about how he does that?

1172
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 3: That's the part to me I'm a little bit struggling.

1173
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: With all Right, I'm with you.

1174
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 4: I got i gotta go Stoppage and I've gotta go Shavkat.

1175
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 2: It's just the way it is. Let's go to topic

1176
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: number two. UFC three tons undercard deserves its own topic.

1177
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on here in terms of name value,

1178
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: in terms of important fights in the divisions. Let's go

1179
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 2: to heavyweight here, cyrihl Gon versus Alexander Volkov Part two.

1180
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: Gon won the first time over five rounds in the

1181
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 2: Apex three years ago, but that was prime cirihl Gon

1182
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: two fights before fighting Francis and Ganu, who maybe had

1183
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: a different mojo at that time. Close early, ends up

1184
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 2: winning wide late fifty to forty five on two score cards,

1185
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 2: four to one on the third. So, Luke Thomas, as

1186
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: we enter this very important rematch, because Volkov has rebuilt himself,

1187
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 2: He's put on a lot more mass. He's leaning more

1188
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: into the idea of being that distance controller who can

1189
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: land that big counter boom. Can he change the fortunes

1190
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 2: of this fight? The odds makers of the DraftKings have

1191
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: Cyril Gon minus three seventy five Alexander Volkov plus two

1192
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: ninety five. But would you at least agree with me

1193
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: that their fortunes are in a much different place than

1194
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: they were when they met three years ago. Their attitude,

1195
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: their swagger, their recent success it feels like it's a

1196
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: new season, Luke.

1197
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Well I guess I'm not. I'm actually not

1198
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 3: so sure. Maybe you can make the case for me there,

1199
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm not.

1200
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: Here's the deal.

1201
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to overcome the hand. The hand

1202
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: and foot speed that was the major problems. Yes, he's

1203
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 2: on a great run right now delivering stoppages, but they've

1204
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: been against more of the slower plotting type heavyweights. I'm not,

1205
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, as good as that win, his last one

1206
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: over Sergey Pavlovitch, the decision was. I mean he battered

1207
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 2: Pavlovitch's nose with that jab, that's all. They're a lot

1208
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: closer in hand speed than this one. But I don't know, dude.

1209
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Even with Cyril Goan's comeback win against Sergey Spivac, which

1210
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 2: was a stoppage and he kind of looked like a

1211
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 2: badass in delivering it, said the right things afterwards. Number One,

1212
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: this ain't Sergey Spivak. Is a much bigger, stronger, sturdier

1213
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 2: and more dangerous opponent. And somebody who, despite that obvious

1214
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: gap and speed that he has, can box a little

1215
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: bit or as a kickboxer, can control distance, is a

1216
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: smart fighter, Volkov. I don't think Cyril Gan's the same

1217
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: fighter that he was before that streak of three fights

1218
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: in which he lost to Anganu, survived a war to

1219
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: knock out to Ivasa, and then badly lost to John Jones,

1220
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: even with the SPEEDBAC when it's just there's there's a disconnect,

1221
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: the mojo's not there anymore.

1222
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 4: And Luke, I want to play a video. You can

1223
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 4: tell me if this is unfair.

1224
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: But this is UFC fighter Max Payne Griffin on a podcast,

1225
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: maybe even his own, talking about what he feels like

1226
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: Cyril Gan lacks. And I wonder if I can make

1227
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: this case to you and if you think this is

1228
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: a fair statement.

1229
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 13: I personally just don't like cyro Gone. I think he

1230
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 13: he's real soft. He's like a soft Frenchy, you know.

1231
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 13: I just don't stro He hits a lot in the

1232
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 13: back of the head. He has so many knock alge

1233
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 13: where he hits the guy in the back of the head.

1234
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: Not bunga mean man.

1235
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy's built like the Incredible Hulk.

1236
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, but he's soft man, He's not mean. I wish

1237
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 13: he was meaner. He's not okay, and I feel like

1238
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 13: to be good and it's like, you gotta be mean, man,

1239
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 13: And I feel like he's too, like doesn't trying to

1240
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 13: hurt the guy. I feel like he doesn't have like

1241
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 13: bad intentions. He's just kind of like playing in there.

1242
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: Okay, look, some of that's unfair, but yeah, some of

1243
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 3: that is just like nineteen eighties movie villain. We don't

1244
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,479
Speaker 3: like the French.

1245
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing that's holding me back. Part

1246
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: of that is that lack of killer instinct. Part of

1247
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: it is when his A game is in full control. Yes,

1248
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: that fighter that he was on the build toward that title,

1249
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: that interim title win against Derek Lewis was was the

1250
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: next level heavyweight in some regards, but we saw clearly

1251
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: once he hit that ceiling of where his flaws are.

1252
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily saying Volkov's the perfect fighter to fill

1253
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 2: in the gap on those flaws, but I feel like

1254
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: Volkoff is due man. He is due for a moment,

1255
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: he said three separate times before, where he's gotten to

1256
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 2: this point where he's basically one win away from a

1257
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 2: title shot. We know that heavyweight's never overly deep, where

1258
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: you can you can put a few together and look good,

1259
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: and he's come up empty in those fights. I've been

1260
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: watching him slowly. I thought the breakthrough moment was was

1261
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: gonna be in the past, and you know, whether it

1262
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: was the Tom Aspinall Fighter or what have you. He

1263
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: came up empty and came up empty in a big way.

1264
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: But he's really rebuilt himself physically. He's solid. I think

1265
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: he's fighting smarter. And this being a three round fight

1266
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: and not a five round if Gon's gonna come in

1267
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: with the oh look what I just did to Speedac,

1268
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: I know I need to be more of a finisher.

1269
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: I know I need to press on the gas more.

1270
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this might be the wrong opponent at

1271
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 2: the wrong time. He may run into something because I

1272
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: think there's something just still kind of off identity wise

1273
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: about Cyril Gon to find that mojo again, to find

1274
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 2: to wire him self directly again look great against Speedback,

1275
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: But I thought, I think there are levels to this.

1276
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: This might come down more Luke to whether you believe

1277
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: Volkov is on the level to deliver what I'm trying

1278
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: to predict you might on Saturday.

1279
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 3: I think the issue has been that Gon has been

1280
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 3: able to train half asked barely at all and has

1281
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 3: been able to like, you know, putts around and he's

1282
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 3: such a better athlete. I agree with Griffin in the

1283
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 3: sense that like he's not he doesn't fight. Mean, that

1284
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: is absolutely true. He does not fight. Mean Now, whether

1285
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: you need to do that to win is somewhat more debatable.

1286
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Gon, I think has gone further

1287
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 3: than Max Griffin respectively, although Gon fights in an easier division.

1288
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 3: But that's kind of the point, Like Gon has been

1289
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: able to realize, I'm a better athlete than these guys.

1290
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 3: I can kind of do all this half asked. I

1291
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: can point fight and touch and go two Evasi fight notwithstanding,

1292
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 3: but you know, in general, and I can just win.

1293
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 3: And that's what it's been. And then he had to

1294
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: fight against Francis and he made a really bad, like

1295
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 3: a series of just really bad calls, but it was

1296
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 3: still a you know, a reason to be you know,

1297
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 3: tough fight. And then he got run over by Jones

1298
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 3: because he fought like absolute shit, and it showed, Yeah,

1299
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of these guys you can beat without

1300
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: doing anything, but there's gonna be some guys that, you know,

1301
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: this is clearly going to be not enough. It's either

1302
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 3: a good enough or a complete the bottom totally drops

1303
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 3: out and it dropped out against him. And this is

1304
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 3: really to me. It's like the part that's interesting is

1305
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: that Volkov is coming off the Pavlovich win and gone

1306
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 3: is still Yeah, he beats Spivak, but he's still dealing

1307
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: with him the fact that his stock has collapsed, that,

1308
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: like the Jones fight, ruined how people perceived him. And

1309
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 3: so there's a real great opportunity here, even with the

1310
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 3: stylistic advantages like BC, here's the thing, right, could he

1311
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 3: go back to that hand and foot speed, jab circle,

1312
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 3: get out of the way, you know, make Volkov miss

1313
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 3: in the way that he did before. Absolutely, And of

1314
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 3: course that will be a part of it no matter what.

1315
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: But the real test here is do you have anything else?

1316
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: Do you have anything else to show us a certain intention,

1317
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: a develop give us, show us exactly what this means

1318
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 3: to you. And if he goes out there and beats

1319
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: him the same way again again, dude, Gon's gonna beat

1320
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: a lot of guys just you know, a little bit

1321
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 3: of work, a lot of athleticism. This is what it's

1322
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: gonna be. But does he have another gear, meanness, something else?

1323
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: That's what this fight, to me is ultimately about.

1324
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 4: Can I level with you?

1325
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 2: We try on to call fighters donks, but we've been

1326
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 2: pointing it out more. There's been parts of our speech

1327
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 2: in lexicon that we're allowing into the fight game where

1328
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: we may have been liberal in the past. I mean, look,

1329
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 2: I got Dick down off twice on the other show.

1330
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: But uh, Gon's a bit of a donk. So I

1331
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 2: love everything you just said right there, and I'm almost

1332
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: sort of leaning into I think he's gonna come out

1333
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: looking to fill in that gap of what else you

1334
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 2: got and think to himself, all right, I can light

1335
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: this guy up. I prove that the first fight. Those

1336
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 2: advantages are there. Only I don't think Gon is in

1337
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: that same space that he was mentally when he was rising,

1338
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: that in the confidence he had. If he over compensates

1339
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: for that confidence, if he says, look, i'm gonna come

1340
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: out here and i'm gonna make a statement, I'm gonna.

1341
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 4: Put him on him.

1342
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: And if he hangs around like he did against Tuivasa

1343
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: too much on the street corner where they let their

1344
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 2: hands go, you could get caught here. And Volkov has

1345
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:18,439
Speaker 2: stubborn finishing power with all four limbs dude, this guy

1346
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: is I mean, Luke, He's he's close, He's he's basically

1347
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 2: on that borderline, meaning there's that small group of elite

1348
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 2: heavyweights that you're like, yes, I could see him as champion.

1349
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 2: Volkov is either the worst in that group or the

1350
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 2: best of the second tier guys. What is it, Luke?

1351
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 3: I think he's probably the best of the second tier

1352
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 3: guys this fight. Could you know he wins here? And

1353
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 3: that's a different conversation. I'm just telling you where I'm

1354
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 3: at right now. I just feel like I have to

1355
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: admit I was wrong about how far he could go.

1356
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: I had never thought he would even become second tier,

1357
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 3: So I have to admit, like you know, my judgment

1358
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: about him was probably a little bit too harsh to

1359
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: begin with, and that went over. Pavlovich was fanned. But

1360
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: this is a different guy for very different reasons. And

1361
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: this is how do you overcome somebody with very good

1362
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: timing and much better athleticism than you. You have to

1363
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: really give us something special here. So if he can

1364
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 3: do that, I think we changed the conversation. But up

1365
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 3: to this point, BC, there's definitely enough to say he's

1366
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: at the top of the second tier, but not enough

1367
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 3: to say he's in the first tier.

1368
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: I think, all right, Long Island, Luke, if I'm establishing,

1369
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: if I'm telling you that Sarah Gun might be a donk,

1370
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: he might be able to make the big mistake that

1371
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: can bring the opening plus two ninety five on Volkoff,

1372
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: you can't hate that. You cannot hate that right now.

1373
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 5: You can't hate that. My cat's climbing on my fucking

1374
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 5: chair behind me.

1375
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 3: Guys with cats in their buttholes, man, you can.

1376
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 4: Only trust guys with cats, Luke.

1377
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, people know, Well I had a cat and he died,

1378
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: So thanks.

1379
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 2: All, there's that big old butthole.

1380
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 5: Uh, there is value on Volkoff. He's gone five and

1381
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 5: one since their first fight. Is only lost came to

1382
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 5: aspinall in that stand. I mean, maybe he's on a

1383
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 5: bit of a resurgence. Dude.

1384
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 6: He look good against They were former training partners, though,

1385
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 6: I don't know if that had something to do with it,

1386
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know.

1387
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 5: I think that.

1388
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 3: What's what is the name of your cat?

1389
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 5: Ruby? It's a she.

1390
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 3: Ruby. Yeah, it's a terrible name.

1391
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 5: For a cat.

1392
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 4: Oh, come on, that's fine, that's fine, Luke, that's fine.

1393
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 14: Uh.

1394
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 4: Luke, I'm gonna take it.

1395
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna okay. But if I don't want to lean

1396
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: on puncher's chance knockout or nothing, are we missing and

1397
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 2: opening for Volkoff to trip takedown Gon, lay on him

1398
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: for three and a half minutes and tire him out

1399
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1400
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I again again, I don't know.

1401
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: Obviously we'll have to see, but I just I don't

1402
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: think so. I don't think that's quite what we're up

1403
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: against here.

1404
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, there you go by decision, Sarah Gon.

1405
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: That's where you're that's.

1406
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 3: Where you're living. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

1407
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 4: All right, let's hold on.

1408
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,919
Speaker 2: Let's get into the wild and wacky two featherweight fights

1409
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: we have on this pay per view card. We'll get

1410
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 2: to al Jay and Sterling in a fight that could

1411
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 2: produce the next featherweight title contender but is absolutely bare.

1412
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 2: But Bryce Mitchell is gonna get a big showcase opportunity

1413
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: here against a crone Gracie who hasn't won since twenty nineteen.

1414
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 2: Despite that recent fight, hasn't been active at all in

1415
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 2: many years, and two fights ago he got criticized for

1416
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: letting his hands go like a wild man against Cub

1417
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: Swanson and then one fight ago he gets completely criticized

1418
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 2: for being jiu jitsu only to a laughable level. So, Luke,

1419
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell a minus eight fifty betting favorite against the

1420
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 2: plus five seven to five Gracie, I'm admittedly a Gracie

1421
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 2: mark for Crohn. He's weird and wild and wacky and

1422
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: I just can't It's it's reality TV to me. But

1423
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: this is not a pay per view card? Does he

1424
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 2: belong in this spot against Bryce Mitchell? And is this

1425
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 2: anything more than Mitchell getting well on a pay per

1426
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: view against a Gracie right?

1427
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: Like?

1428
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 4: It looks fine on paper, That's what I'm saying.

1429
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's a great fight to make

1430
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 3: it belongs on the prelimbs, but it's a fun fight.

1431
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 3: Bryce Mitchell thirty grown Gracie thirty six. That alone, to

1432
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 3: me is a bit of a red flag, especially given Crones.

1433
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: I mean, no development, just no development and time off

1434
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 3: and kind of seems like, I mean, dude, he made

1435
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 3: comments being like, you know, I'm ready to sort of

1436
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 3: get back to my life when this is over. I'm like, yeah, yeah,

1437
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 3: I mean that's not that's not the kind of I mean, dude,

1438
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 3: if you're gonna be involved in the fist fighting business

1439
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,600
Speaker 3: that is Red Flag City, you know what I mean? Like,

1440
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: what would be the source of confidence? Could Bryce get

1441
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 3: over confident and make a mistake and then Krone could

1442
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 3: snatch him up. Of course, yes, pure jiu jitsu. Crone

1443
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: is infinitely better than Bryce Mitchell. There's really no debate

1444
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 3: about that. So these are things you have you couldn't dismiss.

1445
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 3: But the time off, the lack of development, Bryce can

1446
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 3: strike a little bit on the feet, Like you know,

1447
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 3: the fact that Bryce will engage with him on the

1448
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 3: floor absolutely gives Krone a shot. But this would be

1449
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 3: by far Krone's best win, and it would happen under

1450
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 3: the most unus usual circumstances.

1451
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 4: Of prid matchmaking.

1452
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 2: We're almost at that level with Cross, Like I'm into

1453
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: it because I like the cron experience. But it's imagine

1454
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: if you're Al Joe and you're like, I lost a

1455
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: man card pay per view spot to Chrome Gracie. Let's

1456
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: hear from Bryce Mitchell Luke, who has a lot of

1457
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 2: beliefs that you don't agree with. I wonder if you

1458
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 2: agree with this.

1459
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: One, what's your issue with seat belts.

1460
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 5: Seat belts.

1461
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 15: I think it's just like a like you get to

1462
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 15: choose if you want to wear a seat belt. The

1463
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 15: government didn't, you know, they don't wipe my ass for me,

1464
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 15: and they don't they shouldn't be able to tell me

1465
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 15: if I want to wear a seat belt. I personally

1466
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 15: don't like them because I think, what if you got

1467
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 15: to jump out of the car and roll, you know,

1468
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 15: duck and roll, and nobody ever thinks about that.

1469
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 5: So I don't personally wear a seat belt.

1470
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 12: But I grew up my mom never wore one.

1471
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 15: I just don't believe in them, and it's not up

1472
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 15: to the government to decide if I should wear a

1473
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,360
Speaker 15: seat belt or not. So that's just my view on it,

1474
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 15: and that's why I don't wear them. But maybe you know,

1475
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 15: I strapped my baby in, you know, I strapped houck

1476
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 15: her in. But I just don't like wearing them, like

1477
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 15: the maneuverability.

1478
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 2: Look, don't tread on him, don't don't you dare?

1479
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I.

1480
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 2: Love that guy. He says some wacky shit man, right, I.

1481
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 3: Mean, you know, the reality is the reason why the

1482
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 3: government does it is because one it's in your interest.

1483
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 3: They meaningfully reduces the amount of traffic related fatalities or

1484
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 3: even maamings and injuries. But more to the part of it,

1485
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: it's like the government can't tell you that. Well sort

1486
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 3: of they can because if when this is not allowed

1487
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 3: and then people have to get medically treated for this,

1488
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 3: and it causes you know, over time and pay you

1489
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: have to deal with all the folks on the highway

1490
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 3: who have to deal with the traffic accidents and everything else.

1491
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 3: These costs get put back onto eventually the American taxpayer

1492
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: or insurance holders or whatever, and so everyone else has

1493
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,640
Speaker 3: to pick up the tab for this. So like they

1494
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 3: actually do have a meaningful case to say that they

1495
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 3: have a right to make you or you know, they

1496
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 3: use the force of law to compel you to do it.

1497
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 3: It's it's a very very silly uh fuck, I mean, dude,

1498
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's almost like you know, I don't. I

1499
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 3: just don't believe, you know, swimming is protection from drowning

1500
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: or some ship. Like I don't even It's like like

1501
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 3: you know what I want to I really want to

1502
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 3: test it too, Like if you ever got staff infections,

1503
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 3: Like do you believe in antibiotics? Like what is it

1504
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 3: that you do believe that is a safety precaution in

1505
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: the modern world, Like do you believe that con Oh no,

1506
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean condos.

1507
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: Back in the day.

1508
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, get out of here. But like you know, child

1509
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: safety locks on or you know child safety tops on

1510
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 3: aspirin bottles? Is that a you know what I mean,

1511
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 3: like just any notion of improvement in the modern world.

1512
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 3: He seems to think of some scam.

1513
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:48,839
Speaker 2: Well, he lived in a in a trailer.

1514
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 4: You know, he would eat coffee grounds. The guy's a

1515
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,280
Speaker 4: wild tread.

1516
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 3: I know people who I was in the Marine Corps

1517
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: with guys who lived in trailers, who we all ate

1518
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 3: coffee grounds in the fields. Like I've done all this

1519
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,600
Speaker 3: ship I mean or not the trailer par but the

1520
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 3: coffee grounds part certainly have done it. But been around

1521
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: people like that, they still wore fucking seatbelts.

1522
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 4: Bro all right, I mean this is you.

1523
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 2: Mentioned the Flat Earth title would be at Steak Mitchell

1524
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: is a DUBT superhero in some ways. Luke, he's he's ridiculous,

1525
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: but he's also hilarious.

1526
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 3: I am your dub Te hero.

1527
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 2: There it is there at Wow woomp, there it is.

1528
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 4: Luke.

1529
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 2: Could Aljo have been on the main card if We

1530
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: just had Bryce Mitchell fight Nate Land, where that would

1531
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: have been like a decent idea.

1532
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 4: Right, Oh.

1533
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 3: Well then but then who does the who does Dujo

1534
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 3: Choi fight?

1535
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:35,799
Speaker 4: He fights Crone on the undercard.

1536
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 3: Crone's getting fucking I mean, Cron's getting absolutely frick a

1537
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 3: seed I Long Joy Long Island.

1538
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: If you want to jump in, if you want, you're

1539
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 2: not taking the plus five seven five on Kron?

1540
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 5: Right, No, I'm not.

1541
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 6: I actually have Bryce Mitchell in a parlay and that's

1542
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 6: the only value I can find on this fight.

1543
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 3: Do you wear seatbelts?

1544
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 5: Of course?

1545
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1546
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: Right, I bet you they don't down under Let's hear

1547
01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 2: from uh or let's hear from Luke Thomas on the

1548
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: one also have featherweight Nate Land, where this fight has

1549
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: so much action potential in the odds. Let you know

1550
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 2: it could be a great one. He's minus one thirty

1551
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: five Nate the Train in the UFC against the plus

1552
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:13,480
Speaker 2: one fourteen Korean.

1553
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 4: Superboy do who Choi?

1554
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 1: Uh?

1555
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 4: Luke? What's not to love? But I want to put

1556
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 4: another question on top of that.

1557
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 2: Do you think do Whu Choi who like retired when

1558
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 2: he had what that brain bleed scare like Am I

1559
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 2: going to make.

1560
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 4: That part up?

1561
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: Or was that?

1562
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: Did that really happen?

1563
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: I know he had military service. I don't know about the.

1564
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm confusing him. Anyway, he was away for

1565
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 2: a while. He's back, Luke, Is he back to make

1566
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 2: a run? Like this is a big fight for him

1567
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: in some ways? But no, No, he's just an entertainment spectacle.

1568
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 3: He's an entertainment spectacle. He is too. He's damaged goods.

1569
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: We should just be honest about that. He's damaged goods.

1570
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 3: And I hate to say that because oh no, no, no,

1571
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 3: I know, I know people think when I say that,

1572
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 3: like I'm not I'm trying to disrespect what he's done.

1573
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm doing the opposite. I'm saying he gave so much

1574
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: that you have to recognize that's not there anymore, because

1575
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 3: it cannot be. The human body has a finite capacity

1576
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 3: for damage over the course of time anyway, and he

1577
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 3: has drained that bank account to a pretty significant degree.

1578
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 3: There's just not much left. That being said, there's enough

1579
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 3: left to make this fight very entertaining, very fun. And

1580
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 3: I think he's got a real I mean, dude, this

1581
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 3: is a You mentioned the odds pretty close to a

1582
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 3: pick them. I mean both guys. Coinner, I think land

1583
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 3: Were probably has a little bit more durability left and

1584
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 3: that might be just what he needs. But obviously Dujo

1585
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 3: Choy's got sick firepower man, make no mistake about it,

1586
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 3: no doubt about it.

1587
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, breaking news, Alexandre Pantojia, according to

1588
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: Long Island Luke has made weight the champ one twenty

1589
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 2: four and a half on Saturday's main event. So Luke

1590
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 2: regarding dou who regarding the Korean superboy, if you're wondering

1591
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 2: if he's gonna bang? He was more or less asked

1592
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: that day this week spoiler alert, he's gonna bang?

1593
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 5: Do you like that? Is it something that do you

1594
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 5: ever wish you had a break from?

1595
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 16: So for my last two fights, I didn't really have

1596
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 16: the opportunity to show the show a banger fight to

1597
01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,959
Speaker 16: the fans. So you know, I'm gonna grab this opportunity

1598
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 16: against Nate land Where and I'm gonna show a slutfest

1599
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 16: to the fans.

1600
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, okay, I mean not that there was doubt,

1601
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 2: but like, hell yeah, right.

1602
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 3: They booked this fight for a reason. Excellent matchmaking. You

1603
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 3: know exactly what you're gonna get You don't know how

1604
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 3: long you're gonna get it. Yes, you're gonna get it.

1605
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 3: For sure.

1606
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm going back because because you know, Korean super Boy

1607
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,719
Speaker 2: along with French Sensation Tom Duke and while both fooled

1608
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 2: me into believe and they were really coming on back

1609
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: in the day Luke, So I'm gonna believe that that

1610
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: Joy can can get one here and make a little

1611
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: bit of a move get some movement going at least.

1612
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's see, let's see, Uh, do you have

1613
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: any interest level? In the preliminary featured about the final

1614
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: fight on regular TV, when Dominic Reyes takes on Anthony

1615
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: Smith and a pair of aging light heavyweights. Dom Reyis

1616
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: is a minus three forty five favorite, the plus two

1617
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: seven five for the veteran lionheart. Outside of like cheering

1618
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: dom Reis to come back from this funk in his

1619
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: last knockout win was such a feel good moment. What

1620
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 2: else we got going on in this fight?

1621
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Anthony Smith got up there this weekend said

1622
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 3: he had and obviously I feel terrible from the terrible

1623
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 3: tragedy losing a loved one essentially, and that he doesn't

1624
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 3: even give a fuck about winning, and I'm like, yep,

1625
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: that's a red flag. Like I mean, don't get me wrong,

1626
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: I mean I feel terrible for the guy, Like obviously,

1627
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 3: these are horrible circumstances and you know, you kind of

1628
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 3: have to just get through it as best you can.

1629
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 3: And your your job is prize fighting. You know, we

1630
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: if a family member of ours, you know, BC, if

1631
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 3: God forbid, if something happened to one of your family members,

1632
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 3: like CBS would give you some time off to go

1633
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 3: and you wouldn't have to work. But like he doesn't

1634
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 3: get that exactly and not in the same way, and

1635
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 3: so you know, you just have to kind of live

1636
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 3: with it. But it doesn't make for great circumstances to

1637
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 3: prize fight. It makes it for very very difficult And

1638
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: so Reyes, I mean I understand the questions of both directions.

1639
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 3: I think Smith, you know, Smith's been doing the commentary

1640
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 3: thing for a long time. He's been a friend of

1641
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: this program. I hold him in very high esteem. But

1642
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 3: I think he's probably pretty close to the end. This

1643
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: might usher it in. We'll see.

1644
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's lost four of his last six. A veteran

1645
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 2: of so many professional fights and he's you know, had

1646
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 2: these many flashes of many reinventions a few times. He's

1647
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 2: still a tough sort of gatekeeper for the risers that

1648
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: are coming up. But hey, if Don Reyes puts together

1649
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:37,560
Speaker 2: two wins here, I wouldn't hate it, Luke, because you

1650
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: do want to see that guy have a proper closing.

1651
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 2: And I can't believe we're actually talking about like a

1652
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 2: proper closing to his career. But like everything that has

1653
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 2: happened since Blahovich kicked him in the side, Luke has

1654
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:50,520
Speaker 2: been bad. It seems.

1655
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 3: He you know, he's had a long, brutal career, he's

1656
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 3: had a very good career. He fought for a world title.

1657
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 3: He could have he could have taken the easy way

1658
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: out and taken it, and you know, decided not to.

1659
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 3: And we've talked about.

1660
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 4: That on the show, talking about Reyes. Luke.

1661
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,480
Speaker 3: Oh, Tom Rays, I'm so sorry, b see. I apologize.

1662
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,560
Speaker 3: I apologize. Another case where a guy we thought was

1663
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 3: headed for great things, the only guy I've ever thought

1664
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: who beat John Jones, That's the only guy, and then

1665
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 3: it all just fell apart, like badly, it fell apart.

1666
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 3: It seemed like irredeemably fell apart. But he's got a

1667
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: shot here to get another win. I don't know if

1668
01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 3: it would proves a whole lot, given where Anthony Smith

1669
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 3: is at this point, but I don't want to take

1670
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 3: away from him. A win is a win in the UFC,

1671
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 3: and it's a good thing. So we'll see what happens.

1672
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dom Cruz or Dom Reyes, I'm sorry, thirty four

1673
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 2: years old, So we'll see what he can do with

1674
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: this fight if he gets to win.

1675
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 4: But let's focus on the third best fight on the card.

1676
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: It comes in that featherweight division and al Jamaine Sterling,

1677
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 2: coming off of the debut at one forty five when

1678
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 2: he controlled and kind of dominated, but it wasn't exciting

1679
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 2: against Calvin Cater is going to welcome on bet in

1680
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: moldsarf Loyev, who is coming in here as the minus

1681
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 2: two seventy eight betting favorite against the plus two to twenty.

1682
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 4: Five al Jo. Al Jo believes this is the fight.

1683
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 2: If he wins, he will be fighting Ilia Tuporia in

1684
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 2: his opinion next if it goes down, Uh, you know,

1685
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 2: for Ivloev, who's unbeaten, this would be the breakthrough win

1686
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: that could launch him to the title level himself. So,

1687
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,440
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, what we got here stylistically between two great grapplers.

1688
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be one of the things where we

1689
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 2: you know, have some sequences and they traded on the

1690
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: ground or could this become one of those grapplers delight

1691
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: where they don't go to the ground at all. And

1692
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 2: then Colby and Camara were giving us a clinic of

1693
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 2: all action. Okay, maybe not with al Jo here, but

1694
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 2: what are your expectations in this very important fight?

1695
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 3: Al Jo is gonna be able to stick and move

1696
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 3: here like he always does. He's very very crafty with that.

1697
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 3: Even in the second fight against Yon he had great

1698
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: success at that. To me, this fight really comes down

1699
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 3: to how Mosar approaches it and does he get the

1700
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 3: takedown on top, can he hold it? Can he do

1701
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 3: anything with it? We saw Diego Lopez was able to

1702
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 3: threaten from guard a couple of times when they fought

1703
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 3: as well, and that was a very very sort of

1704
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: like you know, new to the UFC kind of scenario,

1705
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 3: Diego Lopez. I think, if al Joe can stick and

1706
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 3: move and then on the offensive grappling side, final way

1707
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: to take the bull by the horns, so to speak,

1708
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 3: set the terms take the back. Mozar is in trouble here.

1709
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 3: Al Jamaine has you know, his Mostar's undefeated. Al Jamine's not,

1710
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 3: but al Jamin was a very good bansmweight champion and

1711
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 3: looked good against Calvin Cator. Is it enough against Mozar

1712
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,560
Speaker 3: this late into his career. I don't know, but I

1713
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 3: do think it's an interesting matchup. Mozar the better pure

1714
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,839
Speaker 3: wrestler of the two, the better guy to get top control,

1715
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 3: al Joe the better submission guy by a million miles,

1716
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 3: the better stick and move guy by a million miles,

1717
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: and certainly one of the best back attackers in the

1718
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 3: entire sport. How that plays out is going to be

1719
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 3: really People talk about this fight's going to suck. Is

1720
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 3: it gonna be fucking Nate Landmuir versus Dujo CHOI yeah,

1721
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be that. I mean not many things

1722
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 3: can be and then it's not gonna be that. But

1723
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 3: acting like if you care about MMA that this is

1724
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: deeply boring and two guys are just gonna be laying

1725
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 3: on each other, get the fuck out of here, totally wrong.

1726
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 4: Now, Luke.

1727
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 2: I had I had al Joe on the BCX the

1728
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell Experience yesterday and he's like, I was really honest,

1729
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: and he knows where he's at at thirty five. He

1730
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 2: knows with the star level that he wants big fights.

1731
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: He mentioned would love to fight Volkanovsky if he gets

1732
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: a chance. But what do you make of what he said?

1733
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 2: Ultimately where guarantee? He thinks he gets a win here.

1734
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 2: He thinks that Vulk versus Taporia might not happen next

1735
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: after originally thought. And he thinks this win packaged with

1736
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: cater and his name, puts him above Diego Lopez since

1737
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 2: he says Lopez lost to to f Loev, so that

1738
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: would be the thing that cancels it out. You're making

1739
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: any mma math with that?

1740
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,560
Speaker 3: Did you have the clip? Is there a clip of this?

1741
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: No?

1742
01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: I have a different clip, But I did want to

1743
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 2: add ask you whether you felt like this has those

1744
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: stakes or is he talking it into existence?

1745
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's talking into existence. That is not in any

1746
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 3: way I would no fucking chance. Now the counter as

1747
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,560
Speaker 3: if he goes in there and just whoops. You know

1748
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 3: how he whooped Corey Sanhagen Quickly you do that to

1749
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 3: mostsar And that's a little bit of a different conversation.

1750
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,000
Speaker 3: But if it's a nip and tuck fight, even if

1751
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 3: it's a good one for three rounds. No, forget well

1752
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 3: you do.

1753
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: You do have to bring up the if they've buried him,

1754
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 2: whether it's they're burying it because of him or because

1755
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: of if Loev or both, or the style matchup, you're

1756
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 2: then gonna take that guy and put him in a

1757
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: pay per view made.

1758
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1759
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be close if he gets a

1760
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: big win here, he's certainly gonna be close.

1761
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 3: He's not in the rankings, He's not close promotionally, that's

1762
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 3: not true. Only you've got Volkanovski witting on a title shot,

1763
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 3: you got Diego Lopez waiting on a title shot. You're

1764
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 3: at best third, which means you've got other work to do.

1765
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 3: And that assumes even that you know you got half

1766
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 3: way respectable win if it's a split decision, no fucking way,

1767
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 3: like no, don't.

1768
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 2: Right, well, Luke, you would admit he's getting dicked down

1769
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 2: though right in the placement.

1770
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen what dick down looks like on brawsers,

1771
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: and it looks real different, you know what I'm saying.

1772
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know some people have the balls to ask

1773
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: him about that directly, Like I did on the BCX.

1774
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: Oh God, but like the storyline has been about the

1775
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: placement of the fight and those mid prelims. Dude, I

1776
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: feel like you got dick down in this equation. What

1777
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: gives al Joe?

1778
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 17: I don't know, that's a question for Dana. Hopefully there's

1779
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 17: more people that it's gonna be able to watch being

1780
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 17: that is free and I guess glass half full. We

1781
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 17: get to finish earlier. I get to go drink some

1782
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 17: funk carbon and celebrate with the family, my friends that

1783
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 17: are flying out here from New York coming to watch,

1784
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 17: so that's cool. I think we're gonna be fighting somewhere

1785
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 17: around five thirty Vegas time, so it'd be a lot

1786
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 17: of time to kind of come home, shower, put the

1787
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 17: party shoes on, the dancing shoes, and get ready to go.

1788
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: I mean, is it a style thing at the end

1789
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 2: of the day or is it some like al Ji's

1790
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 2: not on you know, you're on the naughty list? What

1791
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: is it at the end of the day?

1792
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 17: You know, I know most of us said this, but

1793
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,679
Speaker 17: it might be punishment because of him, to be honest,

1794
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 17: it's uh, I don't know. I really don't know. We

1795
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 17: were on the main card for Salt Lake City, and

1796
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 17: then we got pushed back because of my injury, and

1797
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 17: then somehow we ended up on the freedoms.

1798
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 8: But it is what it is.

1799
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 17: I mean, we get paid the same, so nothing really changes.

1800
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 17: Hopefully there are a lot more people that get to

1801
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 17: tune in and we get to fire people up for

1802
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 17: the main card.

1803
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: What do you make of all this, Luke?

1804
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: Well?

1805
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,719
Speaker 3: Much, well, much yeah, all right.

1806
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 4: I mean I was just happy to get that term

1807
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 4: over again.

1808
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Yes right.

1809
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 3: I can't believe he didn't say anything about it. I

1810
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 3: was like waiting for him to reply.

1811
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 2: Nope, he just accepted it as regular as part of it.

1812
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about who wins here, Luke. Does

1813
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 2: he get the job done? And why is he plus

1814
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: two twenty five after that showing against.

1815
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 3: Cater Because Mosar is different. I'm not trying to be like,

1816
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 3: you know, he built different. I hate that term, but

1817
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 3: I genuinely mean he is a different type of challenge

1818
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: that is uniquely different. I don't think Movsar is unbeatable,

1819
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 3: but b see, I please don't get mad at me

1820
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:19,680
Speaker 3: for saying this, but I'm trying to be honest. Tuporia

1821
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 3: to me has like what you would need to be

1822
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,439
Speaker 3: a guy like that. Now Movesar is a better wrestler

1823
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 3: I think than him, but I think Taporia could challenge

1824
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 3: for it and then light him up on the feet

1825
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: while it happens. You have to ask yourself, could Al

1826
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: Joe do something like that? Okay, he can stick and

1827
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 3: move that that's gonna be valuable. Can he offensively put

1828
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 3: Mosar on his back? Probably for a little bit, but

1829
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 3: not an extended period. But can you use that to

1830
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 3: take the back? Probably also? But that part, to me,

1831
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 3: I don't quite know. Usually, you know al Jaman's gonna

1832
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 3: be the one going for the takedown for the back exposure,

1833
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 3: and I think you will hear too. But I'm how

1834
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 3: he How he does that BC, I guess is a

1835
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 3: little bit of a mystery to me. Like do I

1836
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 3: think he can do it? Of course? But what particular

1837
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 3: tactical approach is he going to take that one? I

1838
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 3: remain somewhat un I don't know. I don't know how

1839
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: that's gonna go. It kind of feels like Moltsar has

1840
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 3: the of the edge in terms of pure physical dominance

1841
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: in wrestling, and that might be enough. But I guess

1842
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 3: we'll see I guess we'll see.

1843
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 2: What do you make of Aljo also telling me that

1844
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 2: he wants to fight to Poria, but he said, look,

1845
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: I'm not delusional about it. Win or lose, that's a

1846
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:33,639
Speaker 2: rough night for me. I he said, it could go very, very,

1847
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,560
Speaker 2: very bad, and he's fully aware of it.

1848
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 4: He dude, he's a.

1849
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 3: He's a experienced, credentialed, smart fighter. I think anybody fighting

1850
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 3: Ilia has to know. I mean, you know, if it's

1851
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 3: Islam at fifty five, maybe it's a little bit different.

1852
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 3: But even then, if you're a forty five, or in particular,

1853
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 3: if you're gonna fight to Poria the guy just polished

1854
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 3: off Vulcan Max Holloway in the same year. Even if

1855
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 3: you beat the guy, it's you're you know, Yeah, it's

1856
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 3: gonna be tough. I respect that he has some self

1857
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 3: awareness about that.

1858
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1859
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 2: I thought it was very refreshing actually to hear all

1860
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 2: of that. He had a lot of good stuff to

1861
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: say about that, his relationship with Morob and so much more.

1862
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: If you care, do I care to take a flyer

1863
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: on him? Though, let's hear from Nocda, because you're a

1864
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 2: Long Island guy, Luke Nocda, where al Joe ray Longo

1865
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: is no al Joe working with Dean Thomas now though

1866
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: on a regular basis is either way are you taking

1867
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 2: him or not?

1868
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 5: Of course I'm taking him.

1869
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 6: I'm taking the Long Island parlay wide Man and al Joe,

1870
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 6: and I'm taking the New York parlay.

1871
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 5: You throw Randy Brown in there as well.

1872
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,519
Speaker 4: I don't accept that as a parlay.

1873
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 5: I mean, well that's the New York parlay.

1874
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 6: But yeah, I also think Aljo with the spread, by

1875
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 6: the way on DraftKings plus three and a half at

1876
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 6: minus one forty five, I think that's a really good

1877
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 6: bet as well, he could win one round on every

1878
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:48,879
Speaker 6: judge's scorecard.

1879
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 4: Right, So you're saying this goes the distance and defeed

1880
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 4: even if you.

1881
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if Loye by decision is probably most

1882
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 6: likely outcome, al Jo could possibly steal it.

1883
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at. Yeah, Yeah, I think it's a

1884
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 3: good call. Yeah, That's where I'm at.

1885
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 2: Luke, anything else on this card as we go to

1886
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: the next topic here, I mean, you do have Vicente

1887
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: Luke against Garimbo. You've got that Randy Brown Brian battle fight.

1888
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a war.

1889
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: Kisa is on there, Clay Gueda, Chase Hooper. There's some

1890
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 2: weird things that I don't hate. Chris Widman, good.

1891
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 3: Lord, well, the Chris Wibman fight is just terrible. I mean,

1892
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 3: let's be honest about that. Rubbs as you would say, yes,

1893
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 3: it's nubs as shit. I mean, please stop fighting U.

1894
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 3: But the Kennedy and z squ and Lucas Retzki fighter,

1895
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 3: I heard you say his name. I don't care about that,

1896
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:34,080
Speaker 3: but literally every other one is good. Clay Guida has

1897
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 3: a rematch with Chase Hooper. They had a grappling match.

1898
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 3: It's a rematch from that. Breaking news.

1899
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,000
Speaker 6: Breaking news, Brian Battle missed weight one hundred and seventy

1900
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 6: five pounds for his welter weight.

1901
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 3: Bout against Randy Brown. I was gonna say that's a

1902
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 3: fun fight for as long as it lasts. But now

1903
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 3: if I'm Randy Brown, I got some questions about asking myself.

1904
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 3: But that one, as you mentioned, Keesa and Griffin another

1905
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 3: fun fight. By the way, Josh Van versus Cody Dirtin.

1906
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 3: I know Van kind of had, you know, the loss

1907
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 3: that sent him back a little bit, but I still

1908
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 3: think this is a hell of a fun fight. He's

1909
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 3: got a bright future due the entire card. The entire

1910
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 3: card has something worth value, with the exception of two fights.

1911
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 3: In my view, I didn't even.

1912
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 2: Realize Griffin was on this card. We played the footage

1913
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 2: of him earlier talking about.

1914
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: Good prep Frenchy.

1915
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, look, dude, there's a lot of names

1916
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 2: buried on here.

1917
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 3: Really I'm teasing. I'm teasing them too.

1918
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 2: Good stuff over there. UFC three ten this Saturday, Hey, looke,

1919
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: topic number three. Let's get into UFC three eleven. Baby, Yeah,

1920
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: change a lot and then some some. But we've always

1921
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 2: been down about great cards. And Dana White upgraded this

1922
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 2: one from the rumors, from the reports we'd heard in

1923
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 2: a big way and since this graphic was made that

1924
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna go throw to here. They've also added what

1925
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 2: money moy Kano against darry Yush among others. But Luke,

1926
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 2: if it looks like this January eighteenth, into it, Dome, Inglewood, California,

1927
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: UFC three eleven, what letter grade are you putting on here?

1928
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 4: And it better be a big one?

1929
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an A.

1930
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 5: This is an A.

1931
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 3: You've got the pound for powder. Number one guy in

1932
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 3: the sport with the most deserving contender. You have the

1933
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 3: most exciting, arguably division in the sport at bansamweight, with

1934
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: its champion taking on the most deserving contender presently. You

1935
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 3: could make an argument for Yon, but I think that,

1936
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 3: you know, getting Umar another shot is important. You have

1937
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 3: something of a number one ish contender fight, but at

1938
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 3: bare minimum. Grudge match between Prohaska and Hill I made

1939
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 3: us spit back, one of the better fights you can

1940
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 3: make at heavyweight. Holland versus Deritter is just going to

1941
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 3: be absolute madness for as long as it lasts. Talbot

1942
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: is a rising contender taking on an aging veteran like Barcellos,

1943
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,799
Speaker 3: but a fun fight just the same. Walker versus Guskov.

1944
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna be Banana peel slipping left and right.

1945
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 3: Grant Dawson versus Diego Fajana a very good fight between

1946
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 3: you know guys who it's going to be hard to

1947
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 3: give them a title shot anytime soon, but very credential,

1948
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: very talented. Carol Hostlo visus Eileen Petes might be some

1949
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 3: torquing going on. Rinya neckamoral, one of the top, one

1950
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 3: of the top prospects in the sport taking on Wien

1951
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 3: Gafarov an fight and then the rest of them, you know,

1952
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 3: I don't really care so much about but you've got

1953
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 3: already so much good stuff. It's an A that's an ay.

1954
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 2: It's almost an A plus. You would just need I guess,

1955
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 2: more star power to make it an A plus.

1956
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, maybe, like you know, some other kind

1957
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 3: of really cool grudge match. But I mean, this is fight.

1958
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 3: Cards don't come much better. Let's just put it that one.

1959
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: They don't come much better.

1960
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Hilprahatsco would have been far more than fine as a

1961
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 2: comin event of this pay per view. But they're gonna

1962
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 2: give us Morob versus Umar as well, which was the

1963
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: big part of Dana's reveal before Ramadan. It's going to

1964
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 2: happen no more arguing is Morob ducking him?

1965
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 4: So this just puts it up there.

1966
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 2: So if we're used to the modern UFC schedule in

1967
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, it seems that October Abu Dhabi Carter

1968
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 2: that fall one is a major now MSG even even

1969
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 2: international fight week, you don't always get that major feel

1970
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 2: with the with the matchmaking.

1971
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 4: Look, this feels like a major.

1972
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 2: Is this because of the new Dome in La Is

1973
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 2: it because of hopeful TKO government contracts in California, Like

1974
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: what is this right here?

1975
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 3: I don't know if it portends like a new major,

1976
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 3: but like the Intuit Doome for folks who don't follow

1977
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 3: the Clippers. This is the brainchild of Steve Balmer former Microsoft.

1978
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 3: Is he still a Microsoft? I can't even keep it

1979
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 3: straight anymore, but either way, a Microsoft Titan and he

1980
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 3: built this dome and we had these conversations b see

1981
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 3: with the with the sphere about like, you know, is

1982
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 3: it the right venue for a fight. And there was

1983
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 3: a lot that people liked, a lot that they didn't,

1984
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 3: But you know, is it the best fight for a

1985
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 3: best venue for a fight? You know, I don't know

1986
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 3: if it's that, But the Intuit Dome is like designed

1987
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: to be fan friendly in every way, both in terms

1988
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 3: of site lines as well as they put more vendors,

1989
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 3: They put more bathrooms, all the chair there's like more WiFi,

1990
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 3: the chairs all have you know, you can play charger shit.

1991
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 3: Like there's just all kinds of stuff that they've done

1992
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 3: that's different to what you're asking. I'm simply saying, you

1993
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 3: know this that venue plus this card is like I

1994
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 3: don't know what they're gonna charge for tickets, but it's

1995
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna be great so to me, I don't know if

1996
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 3: it pretends, you know, hey, this is a new flag

1997
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 3: we're planting in the calendar. I just think the stars

1998
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 3: kind of aligned on this one, and it's you know,

1999
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 3: the tickets might be.

2000
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 4: Insane, but premier event.

2001
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: And I hope even even if it is directly tied

2002
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,479
Speaker 2: to wanting to blow that arena out, because it's got

2003
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,639
Speaker 2: all those technological capabilities and it's probably gonna be shown off,

2004
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 2: not obviously on the level with the sphere, but I'm

2005
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 2: sure it's part of it.

2006
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 4: Even if that's the fact.

2007
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: Whatever, this is a great ass fight card, So Luke,

2008
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,719
Speaker 2: let's show this Uncle Habib post and a Marca Medoff

2009
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 2: will now be cornering his his brother more or less

2010
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 2: Islam and the main event his cousin Umar in the Comaine.

2011
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 2: And a nice little response there about how busy he'll

2012
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 2: be from Habib. Let me read you now the early

2013
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,519
Speaker 2: odds from DraftKings on the on the top three fights

2014
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 2: Mahchev minus two six five, Sarukian plus two one five. Luke,

2015
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 2: that is awesome. I think it's right. And how much

2016
01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:10,400
Speaker 2: do you believe the war path Sarukian has been on

2017
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 2: mixed with Islam. Getting into the war late with Dustin.

2018
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,759
Speaker 2: Does that kind of like make this rematch even closer?

2019
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 4: Heading into this.

2020
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 3: The odds speak to how close it is. I still

2021
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,280
Speaker 3: think the same reasons why Arman fell short the first

2022
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,560
Speaker 3: time are the same hurdles he's going to have to

2023
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 3: overcome here, which is that Islam can match a lot

2024
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 3: of what he does in the wrestling, can stifle it

2025
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 3: in that Saryukiin has a problem with anybody who's wiggy

2026
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 3: and hard to hold down. He has trouble with ground

2027
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 3: and pound. He has no real way to or not

2028
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 3: no real way. He has struggled with that. Islam is

2029
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 3: that guy. At least we think he's that guy. He

2030
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 3: was that guy the first time they thought, but that

2031
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 3: was almost six years ago, so that you know by

2032
01:34:55,600 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 3: the time they fight anyway, So I feel like sr.

2033
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 3: Yukian is the number one contender because of what he's done.

2034
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 3: But has he shown to me be see definitive proof

2035
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 3: that he's a very different guy from the guy he

2036
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 3: fought the first time. Well in some senses, yes, but

2037
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 3: in terms of what he needs to beat Makachev, I

2038
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 3: still remain somewhat skeptical about that.

2039
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,719
Speaker 2: For sure, but I think if he's gonna bridge that gap,

2040
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 2: it's probably going to be with the weapons he has.

2041
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 2: And he's had a nice track record leading up to

2042
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 2: this of late, showing you that he might be even

2043
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 2: more explosive than we thought, right like this.

2044
01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 3: Is we'll see, we'll see. I remember, I mean, here's

2045
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 3: the thing. Here's the thing. He's not just fighting for

2046
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 3: the Walter Wait, excuse me, He's not just fighting for

2047
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 3: the lightweight title. He's fighting the number one guy in

2048
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 3: the fucking.

2049
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 2: Tell yeah, he has the moxie. Armenian. I don't give

2050
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 2: an f about who you are though, that we need

2051
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 2: for a contender to make this fight so sexy. It's

2052
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: gonna be great.

2053
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 3: It's gonna be great, it's gonna be fair. This is

2054
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 3: this is the fight to make for the number one

2055
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 3: guy in the sport right now, and I have not

2056
01:35:58,439 --> 01:35:59,639
Speaker 3: a shred of a complaint.

2057
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 2: Manuk At a Kope and Luke of the La Times

2058
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 2: in boxing scene, among other places. I ran into him

2059
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: in La and he told me that edmund head movement

2060
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 2: is in the corner of Arman as one of the

2061
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 2: one of the second assistants me. No, not as the

2062
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 2: lead guy, but as you know, he's been working with

2063
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 2: him this camp.

2064
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 3: So by the way, Kayasi Kora making waight one twenty

2065
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 3: four and a half.

2066
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 4: There you go, all right, there we go. We're in

2067
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 4: no worries there, Luke.

2068
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 2: That Colemane event at UFC three eleven, Morob plus one

2069
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: sixty four the underdog against the minus one ninety eight Umar, Dude,

2070
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 2: this is a hardcore fans wet dream this fight.

2071
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 5: Let's go.

2072
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 3: This is also the right fight to make.

2073
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: Now.

2074
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that Morob is taking it on such short notice,

2075
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 3: but nevertheless, this is the guy you can make a

2076
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,799
Speaker 3: case for Yan but and I know he was already champion,

2077
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 3: but this is a fresh rotation, and if we're going

2078
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 3: to go fresh rotations, this is the guy you have

2079
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 3: to go with. And dude, Umar, I think he's a

2080
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: tough matchup for Morab, but Rob's also a tough matchup

2081
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 3: for anybody else. It's not like I think he's a

2082
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 3: lamb being led to slaughter. I don't mean it that way,

2083
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,719
Speaker 3: but in the sense of, you know, who's got exactly

2084
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 3: the right kind of skills we think to give exactly

2085
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 3: what Morob does. Some problems and Umar has got him.

2086
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 3: Umar's got him, And dude, just think about this man.

2087
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 3: Habib has since retired from the sport. Islam is the

2088
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 3: number one pound pound guy in a sport. His cousin

2089
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 3: Umar might be a new UFC champion. We already know

2090
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 3: what Uspan number made Off has said.

2091
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 4: He's waiting for Islam to move up and then he's

2092
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 4: gonna come over and take the lightweight belt.

2093
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2094
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, these fucking guys are the kings of MMA.

2095
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 3: This is the royal family of MMA. It used to

2096
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 3: be the Gracies, Now it's the number Gonna made Offs.

2097
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 3: And I know, you know Makachev is you know, related

2098
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 3: to them obviously in a sense. But uh, that that team,

2099
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 3: that family, they are.

2100
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 2: Special showcase of that. Wow, it's gonna be a great

2101
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: night of fights. And then don't forget about that rematch

2102
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 2: between former Like.

2103
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 4: Is this a rematch Luke? Yeah? Right versus Hill. I

2104
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 4: feel like they've all fought each other two times, you

2105
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:03,439
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

2106
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 3: I don't know if they I mean the.

2107
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 4: Fresh one either way, it's this is a fresh one.

2108
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: It's a veritable pick them Pratskam minus one oh five

2109
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 2: Hill minus one fifteen.

2110
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 4: Did we figure out if they fought before?

2111
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,000
Speaker 3: Because no, I can't know that they haven't. They haven't

2112
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 3: thought this is a fresh one.

2113
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 2: All right, Look, this is great two former champions slugfest.

2114
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: And I want to get your reaction to what Hill

2115
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 2: was a part of yesterday. As he walked into the

2116
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 2: same gym as Poton and and it looked like they

2117
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 2: were gonna have a rematch. We don't have a sound

2118
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 2: at this moment, but he basically was talking, shit, you

2119
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 2: want to fight? And then we eventually see Poton throw

2120
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 2: a pair of gloves at him and say let's do

2121
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: it right now, and then cooler heads prevailed. There's the

2122
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 2: Poton's coach that got in the way eventually. Uh luke

2123
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 2: you we We've said that Jamal's been making some positive

2124
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 2: changes in the trash talk game, even though he's largely

2125
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 2: insufferable and irritating.

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01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 4: Uh, he's had some wins lately.

2127
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:57,719
Speaker 2: Is this a winner?

2128
01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 4: A big l?

2129
01:38:59,560 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: Uh?

2130
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 3: In the short run, it's definitely a big l Like

2131
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 3: he's getting absolutely murdered for it on social media. So

2132
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,680
Speaker 3: you have to just you know, recognize that. I will

2133
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 3: say this tough BC. If he beats Prahashka, tell me

2134
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 3: you're not excited about Poeta Hill too, tell me lie

2135
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 3: to me and tell me if he beats again, that's

2136
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 3: a big if. It's a big if, assuming that that happens.

2137
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see that rematch. Get out of here.

2138
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm loving what's going on at light heavyweight.

2139
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,639
Speaker 4: I'm loving what Hill brings potentially these big fights.

2140
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 2: He is largely unsufferable, though, but I like when he

2141
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,360
Speaker 2: gets a few wins mixed in between.

2142
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 4: Let's go over to topic number four.

2143
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,360
Speaker 2: People that have not been winning lately are the belatur

2144
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,880
Speaker 2: fighters who cannot get a date in this pf El

2145
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 2: tour universe. We mentioned and showed on Monday show a

2146
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 2: lot of the chatter and the talk. Well, Patchy Mix

2147
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:54,400
Speaker 2: just did what Patricio Pitpull did before him, and that's

2148
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 2: go on to social media and say publicly, if you're

2149
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 2: not gonna give me a fight, you're not gonna give me.

2150
01:39:59,200 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 4: What I want.

2151
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 2: Cut here's Patchi Mix saying my manager told me to

2152
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 2: hold off, but haven't heard anything from PFL or Don Davis.

2153
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 2: If you are not going to have me fight, then

2154
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 2: please release me from the contract. This is not what

2155
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 2: I want. But if I'm not important to the company

2156
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:16,599
Speaker 2: being a multi time champ, then let me go respectfully, Luke,

2157
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what you could say in response to

2158
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 2: that other than let him play. I mean, what are

2159
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 2: we doing here.

2160
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 4: He's one of the best fighters.

2161
01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 2: In the world.

2162
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 3: He's thirty one. This is the time he needs to

2163
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 3: be fighting the most. He's thirty one, and not thirty

2164
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 3: one at heavyweight, not thirty one at two oh five.

2165
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 3: He's thirty one at one thirty five. Now I think

2166
01:40:37,439 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 3: eventually he's probably gonna get up to one forty five,

2167
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,680
Speaker 3: but doesn't change the equation very much at all. This

2168
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 3: is the time he needs to be active. He fought

2169
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 3: two times in twenty twenty two, he fought two times

2170
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, fair enough, But he fought one

2171
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,759
Speaker 3: time this year in May and that was it. Meanwhile,

2172
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 3: the PFL had how many cards over the course of

2173
01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 3: the year and they couldn't find a place for him.

2174
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 3: And I know he's got to be in the Belt series,

2175
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,479
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. You got to find a way to get

2176
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 3: that guy involved however you possibly can. He is a

2177
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 3: billion percent right, It's not merely that he's at the

2178
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 3: end of his run and he can't get a fight,

2179
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 3: and he just you know, doesn't know if he wants

2180
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 3: to come back. He is smack in the middle of

2181
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 3: the best he'll ever be and he fought one freaking

2182
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:21,879
Speaker 3: time this year. How much this is terrible pr for PFL,

2183
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 3: this is terrible for the career of PATCHI Mix. He's

2184
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 3: not the only one. If you cannot use this guy,

2185
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 3: you must let him go. It is very very He's

2186
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 3: not even saying I want to go. He's saying, give

2187
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 3: me fights, or let me go.

2188
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Just give him fights, give bellator shit, Like this is

2189
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 2: the guy you would take. And even if you're sticking

2190
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 2: to the regular season tournament tournament format, which we both

2191
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 2: agree we wouldn't want full time for every division, but

2192
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 2: if you were, you would announce we have one of

2193
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 2: the best fighters in the world at this weight class

2194
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: and we've got this tournament where he's gonna have to

2195
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 2: prove it again, Like this would be one of the

2196
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 2: asset chess pieces that you push forward gets so many

2197
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: of these guys getting buried. So Patricio Pitbull did an

2198
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 2: interview with MMA Fighting. We've got a quote or.

2199
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 3: Two from it.

2200
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 2: We can put the full screen. But he's basically saying

2201
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 2: the same thing of let me go.

2202
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 4: He says.

2203
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 2: They're losing their rhythm as fighters. It's bad for me

2204
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 2: as a champion. I need to stay active. I'm not

2205
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 2: getting any younger. I spoke with my managers and since

2206
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 2: my contract is not that long, it's close to the end.

2207
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 4: I need to work.

2208
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 2: Let me leave, and then he would add Luke that

2209
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:28,560
Speaker 2: I have to fight in the UFC. I have to

2210
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 2: face those guys. I've seen myself doing a good job there.

2211
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,799
Speaker 2: I don't see anything special there. I can fight anyone,

2212
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 2: even the champion. Ilia he has some small holes I

2213
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:38,920
Speaker 2: can take advantage of. He would go on to say

2214
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: that his lightweight history makes him a great candidate to

2215
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 2: fight Chandler, and then he would dunk on Don Davis

2216
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 2: on the way out by saying Davis said early in

2217
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 2: the merge that it would not happen that the Bellator

2218
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:52,600
Speaker 2: fighters would not be kind of left out and not

2219
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 2: allowed to fight because they're making more money.

2220
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 4: But it happened.

2221
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 2: We know the organization has valued semi retired fighters and

2222
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 2: internet celebrit these more than actual fighters that put on

2223
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 2: a show.

2224
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 4: End quote. Those are some fighting words from Pitbull.

2225
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 2: But let that guy fight. It's all he wants. I mean,

2226
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 2: he's basically saying it used him or you're killing him

2227
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 2: from going in and fulfilling his dreams over there.

2228
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 3: In the ufc BC. This is the problem with having

2229
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 3: all of these little brands that have their own little needs,

2230
01:43:21,320 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 3: their own broadcast schedule, their own little universes. Rather than

2231
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,599
Speaker 3: just looking at the talent pool they have and matching

2232
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 3: it up and doing events, they have to partition everything,

2233
01:43:32,160 --> 01:43:34,679
Speaker 3: and so they can't really make any of the deliver

2234
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 3: on its promise other than the tournament one, which is

2235
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 3: the part with Saudi funded. They're too convoluted, too many brands,

2236
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 3: too many cooks in the kitchen. Simplify the product, make

2237
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 3: the brand exciting, and put your best guys at the

2238
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 3: top of cards. How fucking hard is this? How fucking

2239
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 3: hard is this? You've got all the room in the

2240
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 3: world for donk Donkerson versus Rick Rickerson, and you don't

2241
01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 3: have time for fucking patchy Micky. If you can't make

2242
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 3: time for him, you're fucked. Your fucked fix your product, please, yes.

2243
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 2: All right, change your dungarease too. While you're at it.

2244
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna later.

2245
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 2: There it is, there, it is that's gonna burst fabric

2246
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 2: and porcelain. Let's go to topic number five, and it's

2247
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 2: this week in boxing Luke. We did see two press

2248
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 2: conferences this week for the rescheduled Gervonte Tank Davis versus

2249
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,519
Speaker 2: Lamont Roach Junior PBC pay per view that will happen

2250
01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: in March New City, of course, Brooklyn, New York.

2251
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 4: But take took over the headlines.

2252
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 2: Four and a half hours late to the first press

2253
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:41,479
Speaker 2: conference that took place in Brooklyn. Then he spent a

2254
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: lot more time talking about that twenty twenty five would

2255
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 2: be the end of his career, in his last year

2256
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 2: as a fighter, than anything else. Now. He would go

2257
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:51,760
Speaker 2: on to tell Dan Kenobio and we have the clip

2258
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 2: here that it was more about mental health, which is

2259
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:54,439
Speaker 2: certainly respect.

2260
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 4: Let's listen into that.

2261
01:44:56,080 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 7: That's why I don't want to box some more. I

2262
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 7: want to do therapy. Right, I do therapy, it would

2263
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 7: lose the fire that I have in Sam. I want

2264
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 7: everything out of me West though I don't never think

2265
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 7: about fighting again. I don't think about eve again.

2266
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

2267
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 7: Because I have two girls, two daughters. I wanted to

2268
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 7: be much soft, you know what I mean, be more

2269
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 7: humble and things like that.

2270
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 4: Luke.

2271
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 2: He would go on to call the boxing business garbage

2272
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 2: and trash and say, that's why I want to get

2273
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 2: out of it. So do you look at this as

2274
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 2: like a positive almost cry for help, someone taking control

2275
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 2: of their life, or a boxing superstar doing the Conor McGregor,

2276
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 2: Tyson fury ou every other week or month. I'm retired.

2277
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: I'm not the Ryan Garcia bit because I don't love

2278
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 2: a lot of the behavior that Tank brought to the

2279
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 2: table in his return to the public eye. It didn't

2280
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,640
Speaker 2: make me confident or excited or happy to see him

2281
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:49,280
Speaker 2: because he seems conflicted right now.

2282
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 3: He seems like he's moving into a different part of

2283
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,080
Speaker 3: his life. And I'll be honest with you, I think therapy, therapy,

2284
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 3: if he therapy cannot fix you unless you want it

2285
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 3: to fix you, right, it cannot. It's not medicine that

2286
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 3: you take and it alters your brain chemistry. You have

2287
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 3: to give yourself to the process.

2288
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:08,280
Speaker 2: And so.

2289
01:46:10,120 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 3: Is there a world where he gives himself to the

2290
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 3: process and then comes out and realizes he doesn't want

2291
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,839
Speaker 3: to fight anymore. Yes, yes, that is very very possible.

2292
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 3: You know, Floyd was always Floyd Mayweather was very very

2293
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 3: driven by status and money and history. I mean, I

2294
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 3: think Tank is moved by some of those things, but

2295
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:33,640
Speaker 3: not not nearly to the same extent as Floyd. Not

2296
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 3: nearly to the same extent. And he's already made. You know,

2297
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 3: how much would you say he's made in his career?

2298
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 3: Bec Has he made one hundred million total? Maybe not quite.

2299
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 4: Fifty not quite, but yeah, it could be fifty fifth.

2300
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 3: Let's say, let's say conservatively fifty million. I mean, it's

2301
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 3: a lot of money. He doesn't, you know, necessarily need

2302
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:52,400
Speaker 3: to work anymore at that point.

2303
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 5: And he.

2304
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 3: I've said this before, Dude, Tank grew up in Baltimore,

2305
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 3: and anyone who knows anything about Baltimore, it's charmful city,

2306
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 3: but it's got a lot of problems. And he didn't

2307
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 3: just grow up there. He grew up in like one

2308
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 3: of the most outrageously fucked up situations in Baltimore you

2309
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 3: could even imagine. And at some point you had like

2310
01:47:11,439 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 3: when he you know, he's done a lot of bad things.

2311
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 3: He had to go to He was in jail recently

2312
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 3: for crying out loud. But one thing you have to

2313
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 3: kind of understand about some of these guys is like,

2314
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 3: to the extent that you or I have a civilized

2315
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 3: view of the world is because we were lucky enough

2316
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 3: to have people in our live lives make us do

2317
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 3: that and tank for the most part. I mean, up

2318
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 3: until recently, I don't think really ever had that not

2319
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 3: the same kind of thing in the same kind of way.

2320
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 3: And I think as he gets older and your biology

2321
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 3: changes and who you change as a person, he's beginning

2322
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 3: to recognize that there that those civilizing forces are good

2323
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:51,799
Speaker 3: for him and make him happier, and he's moving towards

2324
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 3: that that. I think if that continues, he absolutely will

2325
01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 3: lose his desire to fight to attain status to but

2326
01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 3: you know, you name it. I don't know if he's

2327
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 3: there yet, but it does seem to me.

2328
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: B C.

2329
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm not even judging him for it. I think he's

2330
01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,600
Speaker 3: moving to another part of his life. What makes it

2331
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 3: kind of interesting is it's one thing for a fighter

2332
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,760
Speaker 3: to have this like avarice and greed to like want

2333
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 3: to be the biggest name and blah blah blah, and

2334
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 3: then take easy challenges. I'm not excusing the you know,

2335
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 3: the accusations of ducking or saying that they're not valid,

2336
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,360
Speaker 3: like is he fighting the best guys he could be fighting?

2337
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 5: Like, no, he's not.

2338
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 3: He's absolutely not. There's just no way around that. At

2339
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 3: the same time, it's like he doesn't give a fuck, Like.

2340
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 2: Well, I think that that's my problem, that he doesn't

2341
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 2: give a f. So not only is the boxing ring

2342
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:39,720
Speaker 2: the worst place to be if that's the case, but

2343
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 2: for all the distractions or missteps he's done outside the ring,

2344
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,160
Speaker 2: the thing we've always relied upon is he delivers inside

2345
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 2: of it, delivers in the build to the promotion. So

2346
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 2: to see him, I mean, look, you know whether this

2347
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 2: is just entitled athletes or not. Keith Idek of On

2348
01:48:53,200 --> 01:48:56,560
Speaker 2: Crown reported that Tank didn't even leave Miami on the

2349
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 2: private jet until after this press conference started, so it's

2350
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 2: like that happens. And then talking about booking future fights,

2351
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 2: he's just like, this business is garbage.

2352
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:06,600
Speaker 4: The belts mean nothing to me.

2353
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 2: And then here's him talking about a fight people really

2354
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 2: want to see him against Shaker Stevenson, and the dude

2355
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,560
Speaker 2: just wants nothing to do with it.

2356
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 7: No, no, I'm talking about this. Yeah, So gum fights

2357
01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 7: can still have that. Yeah, I'm I'm.

2358
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:24,720
Speaker 4: Retire for what?

2359
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 1: Like, who have what?

2360
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 15: What have done?

2361
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 8: What?

2362
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 4: What have you done?

2363
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 3: In the sport?

2364
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 7: He han't done nothing. The young one, the young one

2365
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:40,040
Speaker 7: is looking more better than him that Sean Key, Sean

2366
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:41,679
Speaker 7: looks way more better than this nigga.

2367
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 5: I keep scraming this nigga name. You haven't done nothing,

2368
01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 5: have even done nothing?

2369
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 3: So what do you say to those who didn't know

2370
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 3: the N word was coming?

2371
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: Didn't know?

2372
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 3: I mean, but hold on, that is so clearly ridiculous.

2373
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 3: Like I appreciate Tank growing as a person. I really do.

2374
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 3: It's hard to actually grow as a person and sometimes

2375
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 3: life forces it on you, and I don't want to

2376
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 3: take that away from him. But it's like you're asking,

2377
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:12,640
Speaker 3: what has Shakur done? Dude? Infinitely more than Frank Martin, Like,

2378
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 3: what what are we talking about here?

2379
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,360
Speaker 2: Three divisions? He has a belt in the same division

2380
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 2: Tank has. He's trying to fight everybody, but he can't

2381
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 2: get the fights. I mean, I'm not saying he's the

2382
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:25,240
Speaker 2: most exciting, and I know I've got you know, I

2383
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:27,280
Speaker 2: put my stock in him. I think he's going to

2384
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 2: be awesome and going to be great and is the

2385
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 2: real deal. But it's why we need fights like this

2386
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 2: to happen. This is not the time to say he

2387
01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 2: hasn't you know, Tank, It's not the time for Tank

2388
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:39,759
Speaker 2: to say Shakur hasn't fought anybody, He's done nothing, because

2389
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 2: the pressure is on Tank to fight the type of

2390
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 2: fights that people really want to see now, and it's

2391
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,719
Speaker 2: we're't an arrow with Turkey around where there's so much money,

2392
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,439
Speaker 2: where it's harder to lean on on reasons why these

2393
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,120
Speaker 2: guys shouldn't fight. So look again, if Tank doesn't want

2394
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 2: to be there, I would. I would obviously rather him

2395
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,960
Speaker 2: not just like anyone else. But hasn't been a great demeanor.

2396
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,960
Speaker 2: We have a little uh final highlight here of them

2397
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 2: barking meaning tanking Roach. Let's see this tape and get

2398
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 2: your reaction if you're fired up for this fight, because well,

2399
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 2: my roach is not backing down at the very.

2400
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 5: Least right now.

2401
01:51:09,960 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 7: I'm not really big on like, you know, getting into

2402
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 7: it and stuff like that.

2403
01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 5: I'm really like out, uh out of it right now?

2404
01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 5: Who said that?

2405
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,000
Speaker 1: You said what you said?

2406
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 5: What?

2407
01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:27,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, That's why I've been waiting for the niggas to

2408
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 7: talk how much you want back? How much you want

2409
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 7: to bet because I came up here along? How much

2410
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,000
Speaker 7: I want to be How much you want to bet?

2411
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: Just caught it out?

2412
01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 5: Uh huh a hundred, that's a bet? What's your name?

2413
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:42,000
Speaker 2: How where are you from?

2414
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 5: Feeling better?

2415
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 14: Now?

2416
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 2: Feeling better?

2417
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 7: I like to show show people they know who they

2418
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 7: say they are.

2419
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 5: And I like to prove the people that like I mean,

2420
01:51:56,640 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 5: who said what they say they is. I like pred the.

2421
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 7: People they come with. Now, I promise you, you better

2422
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 7: lead them home. You better lead a females home on

2423
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 7: my mother. You better lead the females home and the

2424
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:11,640
Speaker 7: kids O my mother? Now watch this.

2425
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: Now?

2426
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 2: Is that all it takes for you?

2427
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 5: Is that all it takes?

2428
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 1: Comment? But that's what I want to I don't want

2429
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:22,560
Speaker 1: you to fight me like this.

2430
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 7: He's gonna be mad, He's gonna be mad.

2431
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 5: Watch.

2432
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 2: I'm glad I could do that for you, brother.

2433
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 4: They woke them up.

2434
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 3: Look, yeah that was all real stupid. What the hell

2435
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 3: was Lamont wearing on his head?

2436
01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I have to say Tank turned

2437
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: back into Tank the fighter there a little bit, but uh,

2438
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm happy. Look when they did the face off Laman

2439
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 2: Lamar's big you know what I mean. Look, you sat

2440
01:52:54,160 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: down with them on your channel, do you get the

2441
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 2: feeling like we're heading into a very interesting challenge or Tank?

2442
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 3: I mean, if it wasn't for if if Tank wasn't

2443
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 3: having you know, these these like whatever you want to

2444
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 3: call he's having issues, challenges, whatever, I don't think there'll

2445
01:53:11,160 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 3: be any question about it, and I obviously think he

2446
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 3: still needs to be considered the favorite. I'm not predicting

2447
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 3: some kind of an upset, but you know, you know

2448
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 3: as well as I do, Dude, how many times guys

2449
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 3: have shown up with like a half assed attitude, or

2450
01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 3: you know, they just don't want it like they used

2451
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 3: to anymore, and then you know, the bottom drops out

2452
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 3: on them in ways you never thought possible. I'm not

2453
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 3: I'm not predicting that. I'm just saying got a little

2454
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,880
Speaker 3: bit of a spidy sense of that potentially being on

2455
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 3: the menu.

2456
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:38,280
Speaker 2: Notice Tank said I'm here alone. No Leonard ellerby there

2457
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 2: and no, no, none of his trainers came with him

2458
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 2: to New York. He he looked like he was there alone.

2459
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 3: Was kind of yeah, I don't quite understand. Did did

2460
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,240
Speaker 3: LERB get fired? Where was Calvin Ford. I don't know that.

2461
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know. I was unable

2462
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 2: to watch at full length of the one that they

2463
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 2: had in DC there, but uh, you know, we'll see

2464
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 2: what goes on ahead of that fight. Hey, quick note, Saturday,

2465
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 2: Top Rank has a great double header from Phoenix, Arizona,

2466
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 2: and it's going to be rematches of super fun title fights.

2467
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 2: You remember last December when Rafael Espinoza, no one knew

2468
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 2: who this guy was, from Mexico and a big underdog

2469
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:12,799
Speaker 2: against Robes Ramerez. He knocked down Ramerez in the twelfth

2470
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 2: and final round and took home that super exciting upset

2471
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 2: victory to claim the WBO featherweight title. Their rematching in

2472
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 2: the Comaine and the odds are basically a pick them.

2473
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 2: But how about the rematch In the main event at

2474
01:54:24,200 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 2: Manuel Navarete will defend his WBO Junior lightweight title against

2475
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 2: Oscar Valdez. Now, even though Navarete won their first meeting

2476
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 2: by wide scores on two of the three cards, it

2477
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 2: was an absolute war. Navarete's right hand was busted up,

2478
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 2: Valdez's right eye was but was swollen shot and it

2479
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,880
Speaker 2: was a war. But Luke, how about this Navarette's last

2480
01:54:45,920 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 2: two fights. He had that draw with Concesile, even though

2481
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 2: Navaretti dropped him twice, and then he lost against Dennis

2482
01:54:51,960 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 2: Barentchik when he moved up to one thirty five. So

2483
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: with Oscar Valdez coming off that knockout of Liam Wilson,

2484
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:00,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna see a war. We already knew that, but

2485
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:01,680
Speaker 2: we may see an interesting rematch here.

2486
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 3: I'm fired up, dude. I mean, I'm not gonna sit

2487
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 3: here and pretend like I can predict exactly what's gonna happen.

2488
01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 3: But just look at the shit you're gonna get. You're

2489
01:55:09,040 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 3: gonna get round after round after round of that. What

2490
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 3: is not to love? Can't wait?

2491
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:16,360
Speaker 2: And also, at one hundred and forty pounds on his

2492
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:19,440
Speaker 2: own from Puerto Rico, Liam Paro will defend that IBF

2493
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:22,400
Speaker 2: title that he took my upset against Sabrill Mattias. He's

2494
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 2: got Richardson Hitchins unbeaten coming in and the odds there

2495
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:28,720
Speaker 2: plus one hundred for Hitchins minus one twenty four Paro,

2496
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 2: so very good matchup there on his.

2497
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 4: Own and Luke to close.

2498
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 2: Before we close with the fans, the rumors are spreading

2499
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 2: fast that Canelo and Crawford could be a thing, that

2500
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 2: it could happen in May, that it would be a

2501
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 2: PBC pay per view, and that Turkey would be involved. Now,

2502
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 2: Canelo did a public appearance yesterday where he said that

2503
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: he's willing to work with Turkey now. He said he's

2504
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 2: willing to talk about it, and Turkey went on Aerial

2505
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 2: Show and said, I just need a to get a

2506
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 2: contact in Canelo's camp and I want to talk to

2507
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:59,200
Speaker 2: a Manda man one on one, and I think we

2508
01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 2: can make this happen. And Luke, is this happening in

2509
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 2: May in Las Vegas? And are you fired up? Or

2510
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 2: am I getting way too caught up in San you

2511
01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 2: know Turkey claws here.

2512
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm I just don't. I don't think we're gonna see

2513
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 3: Canelo take a tough fight until it's his, like very

2514
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 3: last one.

2515
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 2: Oh that was so you think we're going to Jake

2516
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 2: Route because that's.

2517
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 3: Why I think he fights Jake Paul long before he

2518
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 3: fights David Benavitez.

2519
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:23,879
Speaker 2: Okay, but the Saint Benavidez, it's Crawford.

2520
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:24,960
Speaker 4: I think it's doable.

2521
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 3: Put the money on the I think he fights Jake

2522
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:29,400
Speaker 3: Paul before he fights Terrence Crawford.

2523
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is they're paying ooh sake, one hundred

2524
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 2: and fourteen million in this rematch with Fury. Yeah, one

2525
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 2: hundred and fourteen million. What if they're like, hey, Canelo

2526
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:42,320
Speaker 2: to fight Crawford, here's here's eighty million.

2527
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 3: Why would you fight Crawford for eighty when you can

2528
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 3: fight Jake for like eighty.

2529
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 2: Dude, Canelo would be favored and he probably should win,

2530
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 2: but it would be obviously amazing to watch Bud dare

2531
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 2: to be great on that level.

2532
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 3: Canelo just fought Edgar Burlanga, who is not not good,

2533
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 3: and sold a gazillion pay per view buys and made

2534
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 3: a gazillion dollars. Why the fuck would you fight someone

2535
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 3: tough if your fans won't ever hold you accountable for

2536
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 3: taking weak challenges.

2537
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because bet if he does and

2538
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,120
Speaker 2: Morell are fighting each other, not like Canelo was gonna

2539
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 2: fight either of them anyway, better be even bev all

2540
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 2: are fighting each other. There's nobody else to fight unless

2541
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 2: Canelo wants like a U Bank fight or someone that's

2542
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 2: that much of a step down.

2543
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 3: Oh okay, well let's put some likelihood on that.

2544
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 5: I just think.

2545
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 2: Optimist in this space.

2546
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 3: Okay, but I'm saying, like, what is the evidence that

2547
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 3: tells you he's seeking tough fights?

2548
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 2: He said publicly is willing to listen to Turkey and

2549
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 2: in the past he said, I don't need you.

2550
01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 4: So hey, hey, Luke, he wants money, he wants that's

2551
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:46,840
Speaker 4: what he wants. He wants.

2552
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, Anthony Smith has missed weight two oh seven.

2553
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 5: And a half.

2554
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Speaker 2: Oh boy, Let's just make fight, all right, Luke, let's

2555
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 2: close with the fans here Morning Combat at gmail dot

2556
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:57,240
Speaker 2: com is what we put out there for you. The

2557
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 2: fans will start off. I think we have one dead wrong.

2558
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 2: That's when we get corrected, put on trial.

2559
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:04,200
Speaker 4: But you better bring it.

2560
01:58:04,240 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 2: Do we have a dead wrong introer?

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01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 5: No?

2562
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 3: No, we don't have the show.

2563
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 4: All right, here we go, Luke.

2564
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 2: This is Mahalow. You know Daz. He puts that smack

2565
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 2: on that ass.

2566
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:15,240
Speaker 3: Where dazz back up on that ass and give these

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01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 3: motherfuckers a blast.

2568
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 5: From the past.

2569
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeach, all right, here's Daz, he says. Aloha Donks.

2570
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 2: At thirty minutes and forty seconds of Monday's episode, LT

2571
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:27,480
Speaker 2: mentions how Kasangana and Locknane are two guys who could

2572
01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:31,320
Speaker 2: have won back to backttorneys for PFL lt that's dead wrong.

2573
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 2: Locknane was the twenty twenty two champion, but failed to

2574
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. In twenty twenty three, only IMPO was

2575
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 2: attempting back to back, although Brendan was going for the

2576
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 2: non consecutive Mahalo.

2577
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,200
Speaker 4: Thanks for everything, shout out to the MK discord.

2578
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 3: It's Daz all right, fairpoint. I'll take that. OULT.

2579
01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 2: Well, we have that other segment where you guys make

2580
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 2: weird shit and we laugh at it. Hey, this one's

2581
01:58:52,760 --> 01:58:54,200
Speaker 2: called fan submissions.

2582
01:58:55,880 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 4: You've got mail futures, all.

2583
01:59:00,280 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 2: Right, finishing strong Here here's Eric, he says, Yo LTBC

2584
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 2: and Long Island. I'm back in your male viewers box again,

2585
01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:10,240
Speaker 2: this time repin MK at UFC Makau. I'm the one

2586
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:13,200
Speaker 2: with the MK shirt on and I live in Fuqut, Thailand.

2587
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,680
Speaker 2: My buddy lives in fuck it, Luke. My buddy lives

2588
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 2: in Hong Kong. We're both massive MMA fans MK, donks

2589
01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 2: and since you suggested we're at least a couple, were

2590
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 2: a couple last time that I wrote in, I'll add

2591
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 2: that we're both happily partnered.

2592
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 3: With each other.

2593
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 2: Fantastic Asian ladies who are far too sophisticated to join us.

2594
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:37,800
Speaker 4: Watch people bleed in the cage.

2595
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 2: Following LT's advice, we got to the event early and

2596
01:59:40,720 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 2: that was a great decision. The near exclusively Asian crowd

2597
01:59:44,040 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 2: was loud as hell and popped for the knockdown sub

2598
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:50,080
Speaker 2: attempts in every Chinese fighter on the card. To top

2599
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:53,520
Speaker 2: that off, I saw a Yon fanboy since his or No,

2600
01:59:53,560 --> 01:59:55,880
Speaker 2: I've been a Yon fanboy since his victory over Aldo

2601
01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:59,919
Speaker 2: and his impressive victory over FIGI made my first MMA.

2602
01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 4: Event pretty special. Luke. He would go on to talk

2603
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:03,480
Speaker 4: about a hilarious nothing.

2604
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 5: Okay, there you go.

2605
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:08,400
Speaker 2: He had a story about Margarita is in a Colombian

2606
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of words at this.

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02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:11,160
Speaker 4: I don't care, Thank you nice.

2609
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 3: I appreciate the pictures. I do care about that. Thank you.

2610
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 2: All right. Let's hear from Long Island Rob, not no Seda.

2611
02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:20,520
Speaker 2: He says, Hey, Long Island Rob, here sending you guys

2612
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 2: my thanks. Last Friday, I cornered my longtime friend and

2613
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:28,280
Speaker 2: training partner, Disco Danny Fox for his first MMA match.

2614
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 2: It was also my first time cornering in a fight

2615
02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 2: and when I asked you guys for advice, you really

2616
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 2: helped me out. I came here prepared and it helped

2617
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 2: me not to look like a complete donk. The fight

2618
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:42,560
Speaker 2: fought out to a draw, even though they announced that

2619
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:45,640
Speaker 2: Fox had won. But Fox fought his heart out after

2620
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 2: two different opponents pulled out the day before. We later

2621
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,480
Speaker 2: found out that his opponent was training at the Aka

2622
02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 2: Jim as recently as last year. We're ready to fix

2623
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 2: some holes in our game and make our return in January. Luke,

2624
02:00:57,960 --> 02:00:59,800
Speaker 2: what do you think of this guy's ability in here?

2625
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 2: His walkout was to Ladies' night and this is the

2626
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 2: first minute of the fight where it got crazy.

2627
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,280
Speaker 3: Well, I mean they're wearing shin pad, so it's an

2628
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 3: amateur fight, so you have to have you know, real

2629
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:13,840
Speaker 3: uh you know, you know, measured response. But I think

2630
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 3: he fought tough and that's all you can really ask about.

2631
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 4: The guy got in shape. Do you give it up

2632
02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 4: for disco Danny Fox?

2633
02:01:20,920 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 2: Right there?

2634
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, y, I looked like he was in good physical condition.

2635
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 3: Could be a little bit of that, could be a

2636
02:01:24,080 --> 02:01:25,680
Speaker 3: little bit that ozempic, could be a little bit of

2637
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:27,240
Speaker 3: that t RT, could be a little bit of that.

2638
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 2: You know, or maybe just addies and baddies for disco.

2639
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 4: Look you know what I mean?

2640
02:01:35,480 --> 02:01:40,800
Speaker 2: All right, we got something here from It's a fur coat, Ronda.

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02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 4: Luke.

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02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:48,800
Speaker 3: Do you know what they call a quarter pounder with

2643
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,400
Speaker 3: cheese and Columbia quarto?

2644
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2645
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 4: There it is there.

2646
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 3: It's actually not what they call it, but.

2647
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:59,000
Speaker 2: Yes, with John Travolta's pulp fiction face right there and

2648
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:00,800
Speaker 2: one more from deft co.

2649
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:07,160
Speaker 3: Wash your hands after using the restroom. Otherwise this becomes,

2650
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 3: oh yeah, becomes a little in that dick touching.

2651
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 4: I guess he believes def Cooe believes is on brand

2652
02:02:15,360 --> 02:02:15,720
Speaker 4: for MK.

2653
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 3: Yes, hey, I'm looking up you know what I was

2654
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:23,840
Speaker 3: now thinking about this. I've never been to McDonald's in Colombia.

2655
02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:27,200
Speaker 3: Now I'm wondering what they call what was it the

2656
02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 3: double quarter pounder or the quarter pounder?

2657
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 2: I think just the quarter pounder so they call they

2658
02:02:32,120 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 2: do call it that.

2659
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:39,760
Speaker 3: I was totally wrong quarto. Yeah, there's also no no.

2660
02:02:40,080 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 14: They have the they have the Micka, They have the

2661
02:02:45,520 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 14: Mia and then they have the Mick Fiesta Junior.

2662
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 2: All right, they ain't got mc reb over there though,

2663
02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much.

2664
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,800
Speaker 3: Well, they also have them how about that.

2665
02:02:57,320 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fun.

2666
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:01,080
Speaker 2: That is fun. I'd like to eat out of Columbia

2667
02:03:01,160 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 2: McDonald's with you, Luca, walk outside.

2668
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:08,600
Speaker 3: I've been to El Corral, which is like their big one.

2669
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:11,320
Speaker 3: I've been to Frisbee which is like they're kind of

2670
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 3: like their KFC. I've been to h they have called

2671
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,320
Speaker 3: waffles are Crips and Waffles, which is a big chain there.

2672
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:22,320
Speaker 2: How's their fast food burger quality compared to the High.

2673
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,880
Speaker 3: With the caveat that. I've actually never been to McDonald's,

2674
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 3: but the other ones i've been to High very high.

2675
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:32,480
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of High Long Island, Luca was great

2676
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 2: to do the show with you today. Are you over there?

2677
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:36,120
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm here. Thank you guys.

2678
02:03:36,640 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 6: Everyone joined me on Saturday doing the full card watch

2679
02:03:39,760 --> 02:03:42,120
Speaker 6: along with Gaff plenty of bond reps Main Card minute

2680
02:03:42,160 --> 02:03:42,640
Speaker 6: on YouTube.

2681
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 5: Go give it a Followut what does.

2682
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:46,720
Speaker 3: Your significant other do when you and Gaff are blowing

2683
02:03:46,760 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 3: each other during.

2684
02:03:47,440 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 6: This the main You know, Saturday is my day, Luke.

2685
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:53,200
Speaker 6: She does her own thing on Saturdays. But yeah, you

2686
02:03:53,280 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 6: know she hears us giggling from there.

2687
02:03:56,680 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 2: What a great lady she puts up with that. That's

2688
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,000
Speaker 2: great to see morning Comb at gmail dot com. By

2689
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:02,240
Speaker 2: the way, if you want to get it on, fan

2690
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:05,200
Speaker 2: subs are dead wrong. I mean, look, they're surviving. There're segments,

2691
02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:08,320
Speaker 2: they're available to the people, right, they're resources for our community.

2692
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Morning Combat at gmail dot coms BC indicated Morning

2693
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 3: Combat at gmail dot com to reach the show and

2694
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:14,360
Speaker 3: tell us to go fuck ourselves.

2695
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 2: You can do that there it is. You can follow

2696
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 2: us on those socials right there, and on our YouTube

2697
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:21,360
Speaker 2: channels as well, along with Long Island Lukes there. Check

2698
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 2: out that main card minute, Luke Thomas. I hope you

2699
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:25,960
Speaker 2: enjoy UFC three ten. I'm sure people will check you

2700
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:30,480
Speaker 2: out tonight on the LFA stream Saturday on your YouTube channel.

2701
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 2: Anything else you want to say to these people.

2702
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 3: We'll see you on Monday and studio this time. Fingers

2703
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 3: crossed at Amtrak doesn't fuck us, but it should be fine.

2704
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 3: And let's have some good fights. Let's have a good weekend.

2705
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:43,800
Speaker 3: See me tonight, see me tomorrow for BC. We'll have

2706
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:44,880
Speaker 3: a good time on Monday as well.

2707
02:04:45,200 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 2: All right, and we'll also you know too bad al

2708
02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,760
Speaker 2: Joe got dick down. Look but hey, hey here it

2709
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 2: is all right, said it not me?

2710
02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 1: All right?

2711
02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:55,240
Speaker 4: Check it out, enjoy the fights. We'll see you.

2712
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 2: We'll be back in two and two. Okay, here you go,

2713
02:04:58,280 --> 02:05:00,080
Speaker 2: all right, there it is, he