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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. M Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 1: my name is known. They call me Ben. You are you?

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Speaker 1: And that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: A show that looks at say, how would how would

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about witches, we're going to imagine, well,

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Speaker 1: what if I truly believed that this was true? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And also what if I believe this is complete hogwash?

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Speaker 1: What if my mother was a witch? Then you would

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Speaker 1: be part which right, I'll be pretty sweet. It's like

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Speaker 1: that old Mr. Show joke where they find out that

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Speaker 1: somebody's part old m hmm. It's true. Well, we talk

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Speaker 1: about stuff that would be often things are covered in

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Speaker 1: the fringes of mainstream society. We talked about mysteries like

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Speaker 1: things that people would have you believe, our conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 1: I love that move, by the way, thanks man, that's

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Speaker 1: her No, you made it up, No, but I'm giving

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Speaker 1: looked at some very very strange stuff, whether or not

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Speaker 1: we believe they're false. And and look behind the curtain here, folks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Noel and Matt and I don't always agree on something,

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Speaker 1: We are friends. We do actually hang out outside of

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Speaker 1: this studio. You say that, like people don't believe you.

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Speaker 1: We have a mandatory meet up, right, mandatory morale, but

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Speaker 1: no man. Today's topic is is is a doozy? Is

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Speaker 1: us to do something about is lizard people. We've never

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Speaker 1: covered it. We've never covered lizard people. What what's the

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Speaker 1: it's the belief that the controllers of this world. You

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Speaker 1: can call them anything you like, the Illuminati, sure is

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Speaker 1: a go a good go to. Well, they're essentially a

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's called the New World Order.

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Speaker 1: You have heard of it? It's yeah, so yeah, you

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Speaker 1: have probably heard of this. No, We're we're very fortunate,

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Speaker 1: things are already so strange. Why not reptilians? Why you

426
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: know what? Why not? And I wonder how many of

427
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: those you know, It's it's tough to ascribe motive, like

428
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: how many of those people were ironically dare I say,

429
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: dick ish lely or just had no idea what it was.

430
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's tough to account for that those

431
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: kinds of numbers. And so one of the things you

432
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: may have heard, maybe we buried the lead here is

433
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: the idea of shape shifting. Yes, because like we said,

434
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: these reptilians can hide in plain sight. According to David Ike,

435
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: there is video evidence that he points to of people

436
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: shape shifting, and you look at this evidence. In my

437
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: opinion as a video editor, what I see are artifacting

438
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: in the videos, much like some of the glitching video

439
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: stuff you've been working on a knoll, where it's pieces

440
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: of an image that then meld into the pixels of

441
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: the next images that are coming up. Sometimes it happens

442
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: not on purpose, especially if you're doing some kind of

443
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: live broadcast which video Sometimes those changes and with can

444
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: get choked, you know, and that weird things happen. So

445
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: that's what I see when he's talking about shape shifting.

446
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: What David Ike believes he's seeing is a human of

447
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: like almost peeling away the the human part to see

448
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: either reptilian eyes, reptilian teeth, or sometimes in the cheeks

449
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: or the entire face looks reptilian and strange. That's a

450
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: big thing in V. Two. Just want to bring that

451
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: back again, and that is what they do. They literally

452
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: have these human masks and they peel them off and

453
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: they reveal their reptilian true forms. So rather than explaining

454
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: what David Ike believes about shape shifting reptilians, We're just

455
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: going to play a clip from a video called how

456
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Speaker 1: shape Shifting Works that's posted on David Ike's YouTube channel,

457
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: not on how stuff works dot com. Correct. Now, one

458
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: of the hardest things that people have to understand, and

459
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: I completely appreciate it, is this idea of shape shifting. Now,

460
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: it's an ancient It's an ancient thing in terms of

461
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: accounts all over the world, not just shape shifting between

462
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: human and reptilian, but shape shifting between human and many

463
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: different forms, animal forms, et cetera. People perceive it because

464
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: we're so locked into this this reality is real. It's like,

465
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: are you physical, solid human body transforming into a solid

466
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: reptilian body and then back again. Because I spoken to

467
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: people all over the world, vast numbers now who have

468
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: seen this phenomenon of seeing someone a human suddenly transform

469
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: into a reptilian figure and then come back again. And

470
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: the ancient accounts talk about the same thing. And people

471
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: think it's impossible, mate, how could you? How could a

472
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: body change into another body? I mean, the person to die,

473
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't they? Well, that's not what's happening. The only place

474
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: that the physical reptilian form and the physical human form

475
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: exists is in here when their energetic form is decoded

476
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: into a holographic apparently physical form. So when something shape shifting,

477
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: it shifts in the decoding mechanism by which we decode

478
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: different energy fields. It's literally like changing a television channel.

479
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's in the decoding that shape

480
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: shifting takes place because there is no physical form out there.

481
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: It's in here. That's where it all goes on. Okay,

482
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: So that's for me a little tough to wrap my

483
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: head around. Um, the idea of our brains are constantly

484
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: decoding the energy messages that are coming or the energy

485
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: fields around us, which is true with light, light goes

486
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: in your eye, your brain is telling you what is

487
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: You know that Ben Bolonen and Noel Brown are sitting

488
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: in front of me, same thing with everything we hear

489
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: and touch and taste, all of our senses. Yes, So

490
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: the argument that he is making, or the position that

491
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: he appears to be taking here is that the the

492
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Speaker 1: entity or the object of regard, whatever is being sensed

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00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: or perceived is the same. It doesn't actually change. What

494
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: changes where the shape appears to shift is because of

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00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: a change in the perceptible perception abilities of the brain. Right, yes,

496
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: but in this case, a lot of times we're talking

497
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: about a video signal, which is the next the next

498
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: interesting part, because if it were a change in perception

499
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: of the viewer, then logically what would follow would be

500
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: that three the three of us could watch the same

501
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: video and had our perceptive ability shifted see three different things.

502
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's an interesting proposition and gets

503
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: into a little bit of philosophy, but it doesn't completely

504
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: explain like unless the camera, the recording equipment also experiences

505
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: some kind of perceptive shift, then you know, the next

506
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: question would be let's let's assume that happens. The next

507
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: question would be, well, why is it still out there?

508
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: If these people are that powerful? Is YouTube like the

509
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: last bastion of humanity? I don't know. Again, we've talked

510
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: about it before. There's a big difference. I mean, don't

511
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: be evil and be good? Yeah, yeah, well that you

512
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: know you're you're right about that, certainly. Why would they

513
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: allow it to be there? Maybe because it seems ridiculous,

514
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: you know, like maybe if it is true, the way

515
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: you stop it for being a thing is by letting

516
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: people think it. Or maybe you're one of them. Well,

517
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I've seen my face in a

518
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: black light and it is truly horrifying. Why do you

519
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: fall asleep whenever we're in the sun, Well, I mean

520
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 1: it's cozy. Why do you have that clutch of weirdly

521
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: shaped eggs under your desk? My babies don't miss my

522
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: But this, this is, you know, our attempt to show

523
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: from his perspective what he's saying, because you know, a

524
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: lot of people would would assume, and I certainly assumed

525
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: in the beginning before we dug into this, I assumed

526
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: that he meant that people were, you know, in some

527
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: like like anthropic style, similar to like in three like anthropy. Um,

528
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: I guess would be her pantherapy if they're changing into snakes.

529
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, he when he goes into discussing

530
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: why this is happening and how it's been happening, he

531
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: discusses ancient depictions of like anthropy and how you know

532
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: we there are there are records of humans shape shifting

533
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: over the years that are written down in all of

534
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: these native you know, languages, negative native tongues. So what

535
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: what exactly gives the reptilian people a leg up over humanity?

536
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's this idea that they've been

537
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: around for longer and perhaps had more time to evolve technologically,

538
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: because that is that the basis of what we're talking

539
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: about here. Yeah, the idea would be that it ties

540
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: into ancient mythology. So whether it's Eric von Dannikin or

541
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: um any number of ancient alien typewriters, the argument is

542
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: very similar. In the argument there is that the theme

543
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: is that were mistaken for deities or gods or angels

544
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: or demons were ultimately extra dimensional or extraterrestrial beings. So

545
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: sometimes both sometimes both, and so the argument that Ike

546
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: is making is that these reptilians were function is what

547
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: we would call the Ananaki in Abramaic literature, and that

548
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: and and other myths around the world, and that what

549
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: they were doing was creating hybrid races of man or

550
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: creating you know, half lizard half human things. Uh. And

551
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: this ties into something that that you probably know the

552
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: most about amidst the Three of Us Matt which is

553
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: another one of his beliefs, the Saturn Cult Control System

554
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: or SCCS. Okay, I gotta tell you. I can attest

555
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: that I've only watched about in our here of of

556
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: stuff on this that David Ike has has put out there.

557
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: He's got his YouTube channel on his YouTube channel again

558
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: trying to study it as though I'm taking a class

559
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: or something, and my goodness, taking notes. You go down

560
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole quickly when you're watching one of these.

561
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: Should we play a little snippet? Sure this is from

562
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: the videos. Saturn isn't what you think it is either,

563
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: Just to reminder, saturn Um may appear to be what

564
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: it is in the holographic world that but actually again

565
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: it's an information field. It is a consciousness um. Everything

566
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: is aware, everything has a consciousness. So these um planets,

567
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: the sons, they have consciousness, they have awareness, They are

568
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: entities in their own light. Saturn is the key to

569
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: understanding uh so much. It was known as the Old Son.

570
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: It is known in occult as the Old Son, the

571
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: Dark Sun, and the Dark Lord, the Lord of the rings,

572
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: and the massive penny dropped for me, WHOA The colleidoscope

573
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: moved when I started to realize that at least so many,

574
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: if not all, the ancient sun gods were not gods

575
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: of the sun we know today, but of the Saturn

576
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: Sun that was focused on before because it was in

577
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: a different position. I suggest that there are rings that

578
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: we can see, but there are sound rings that we

579
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: can't see, that are coming out across and we're picking

580
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: them up. They make something appear to happen that does

581
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: not actually happen. They can induce a virtual reality experience.

582
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: The Saturn matrix, as I call it, is a frequency

583
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: band which we are decoding as a fake reality. And

584
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: I suggest, my view, we will find that the edge

585
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: of that frequency band is what we call the speed

586
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: of light. Beyond it, you go out of the matrix. Okay,

587
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: so what I'm getting from that is that he believes

588
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: all these religion, secret societies, banking institutions, everything, it's all

589
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: ruled quote astrologically by Saturn, and that these ancient sun

590
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: gods were not actually gods of the Sun, but of

591
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: Saturn because Saturn was essentially in a different position. Uh. Basically, Saturn, Mars,

592
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: and Earth were much closer together. They were aligned in

593
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:33,479
Speaker 1: some way to where eclipses looked differently. The our Sun,

594
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: the one we know as a son, interacted differently with

595
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: this other son that was Saturn. It's a lot to

596
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: wrap your head around. But it sounds like some of

597
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: those philosophy classes I used to take in college kind of.

598
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: But he is matching it up with symbols at least,

599
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: I guess, I just mean in terms of like representation

600
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: versus physicality, you know what I mean, Like how maybe

601
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: everything we see is just being projected on a screen,

602
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, exactly, you know what I mean? Just

603
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: like that, yeah kind of but but yeah, but what

604
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: are he's saying that these all of these different symbols,

605
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: they all match up from these ancient civilizations, but they

606
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: go right up to nowadays, with like the Great Seal

607
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: of the United States, with the United Nations, their their Seal,

608
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: the Rothschild family, Freemasons, the Catholic Church, even Madonna when

609
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: she's performing at Super Bowl halftime shows. Um, and I'm sure,

610
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure I have not seen anything yet from him

611
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: about that perfection. Alex Jones said it set was a

612
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: Luminati Satanic ritual. When he was on The Rogan Show, boy,

613
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: he was he was ruck. The euphemism we like to

614
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: use his charming. Yes, I was gonna say turned. Yeah,

615
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: he was a little too charming to drive. Dude straight

616
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: up brought up interdimensional aliens. I've never heard him talking

617
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: about that before. Well, now it's now, it's out there. Yeah,

618
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm tune in and check that out if you're if

619
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: you're a fan of this show, you'll probably joy the

620
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan Show as well. Furthermore, I had asked why

621
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: you haven't checked it out yet, because we're we're fans

622
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: of we're fans of that show. What are some exact

623
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: so there's the argument is that ultimately there's a secret

624
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: religion here, Yes, So what are some examples of the

625
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: symbols that he's common. Oh, yeah, those symbols he brings out.

626
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: There's the Crescent, and circle, circle and cross, six pointed star,

627
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: twin pillars, horns of any sort that are used as

628
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: a symbol, spiders, black cubes, and the numbers six, eight,

629
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: and fifteen, and there's probably twenty others that he goes

630
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: through and list in the beginning of that video and

631
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: shows you how they match up with these ancient symbols

632
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: and how they represented Saturn and now they continue to

633
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: represent Saturn. But they're even like the Bentley logo with

634
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: the wings. I'm just okay. So here's the thing. Those symbols,

635
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: while while sure are commonplace in different parts of the

636
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: world and in parts of our timeline, are symbols that

637
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Speaker 1: could stand for a variety of things, you know what

638
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean. It's just like the swastika, you know, is

639
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: now forever in the minds of Westerners going to be

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Speaker 1: uh symbol of atrocity, but for thousands of years before

641
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: it was pretty much a philosophical nice peaceful things again. Yeah,

642
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: you can find it in theosophy too, nasophy. Alright, alright,

643
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Speaker 1: we'll do theosophy. We'll do it later. We'll do it later,

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Speaker 1: We'll do it later. So these are these are some

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Speaker 1: of his beliefs. These are some of the ones that

646
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Speaker 1: the world at large would say are the most strange.

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Speaker 1: And we know from the interview that that we've mentioned,

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Speaker 1: we know from some of the clips, what most of

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Speaker 1: the world or what people would call the mainstream media

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Speaker 1: um think of David Ike. But what's the fringe of inion. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be a surprise to when anyone who follows

652
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: this stuff that there are people who would consider themselves

653
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists that accuse him of being active disinformation. And

654
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 1: this is the same thing that's been leveled at Alex Jones. Um.

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00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: Alex Jones, as as Nuel pointed out earlier, is ideologically

656
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Speaker 1: very very different in comparison to David Ike, but they

657
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: both received those criticisms. There's no art, there's no arguing

658
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: that Ike has massive support or at least massive attention.

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Speaker 1: He's a prolific author. His publishing proceeds alone number in

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Speaker 1: the millions of pounds, which is why some people would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, do you believe what you're saying? Do you

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Speaker 1: honestly believe it? Or is this some sort of performance

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Speaker 1: to make a buck. Let's not forget too that like

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Speaker 1: typically the term conspiracy theorists is not one of endearment,

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00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: but one of abuse, and no one would of or

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Speaker 1: call themselves a conspiracy theorist. It is diminutive, you know,

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00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: and it sort of takes away from whatever work you're

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Right, ever since, ever since the US federal

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Speaker 1: government put out secret documents, this has proven. You can

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Speaker 1: google it now. I mean, don't do it if you're

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Speaker 1: driving or whatever. But they put out secret documents to

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Speaker 1: media media outlets in the wake of the jfk assassination

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Speaker 1: saying this is the official story. Anybody violence the official story,

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Speaker 1: make sure to call them a conspiracy theorist. That is

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Speaker 1: where it began becoming a pejorative, was in pr I

676
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: think at most we've called ourselves conspiracy realist. But but yeah,

677
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Now it's a it's a pejorative and

678
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: to the majority of the world, David Ike is not

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00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: taken seriously, and critics have painted him as everything from

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Speaker 1: someone who cynically exploits the credulous, playing on their fears

681
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: and concerns to make cash, to someone who is genuinely deluded.

682
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: You know, someone who might have They would say that

683
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: he might have a mental problem, But the thing is

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Speaker 1: he's not always wrong. No, I think we should dig

685
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: into that bit after a quick sponsor break. Yes, ladies

686
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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, here's where it gets crazy. The rumors are true.

687
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Speaker 1: There are times where people believe that David I was correct.

688
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: Many of his supporters contend that he's been correct about

689
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: several different events over the course of his conspiratorial or

690
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: fringe commentating career. One would be people believe that he

691
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: predicted nine eleven. What he actually said was that there

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Speaker 1: was going to be a disaster in the US. It's

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Speaker 1: sometime in like a two or three year span, So

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Speaker 1: he predicted a disaster. But that's a world away from

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Speaker 1: predicting nine eleven or something to that specificity, right, And

696
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: then it's kind of like the what I sometimes call

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Speaker 1: the nostro damist problem. I mean, you can call up

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Speaker 1: a real bad storm a disaster. Anything that requires humanitarian

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Speaker 1: aid could be considered a disaster. To not be specific

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Speaker 1: enough in saying two planes will be hijacked and hit

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00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: two specific buildings, you know what I mean? Like you

702
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: could call like your least favorite artists next album a disaster.

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00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: The super Bowl was a disaster. The super Bowl is

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00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: a disaster. I don't even care about football, and that

705
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: was an awful day. You know. Somebody bet one bet

706
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: five million dollars on the Falcons. Apparently the first half

707
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: of the game. They were out there on three chat

708
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: and stuff talking about how they had it in the bag.

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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the show Man, my heart

710
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: goes out to you or what passes for one and

711
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: with my anatomy um the other thing. So there's this

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00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: nostre damis problem, this vague prediction, what like, how do

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Speaker 1: we define a disaster? Nostradamis, of course um popularly known

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Speaker 1: for his uh the quadrains he wrote, which, depending on

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Speaker 1: how they are translated, that's a big thing. Uh purport

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Speaker 1: to predict important events. I think we talked about it

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00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: in the past and previous episodes. But I read one

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Speaker 1: translation where one of the quatrains was in nine hundred

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Speaker 1: and nineties six build your house with wooden sticks for

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Speaker 1: war and fire will sweep over the land. Life will

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Speaker 1: be safer nary a man or something like that. That's

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00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: from the Three Little Pigs. Dude, that's fin Three Little Pigs,

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Speaker 1: the Copla version Three Little Pigs arm again. Um. The uh,

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Speaker 1: the point is, um, you know, I read that I

725
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: was a kid, and I was like, I wonder. I thought,

726
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: oh man, it's the end. I'm not even going to

727
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: get a shot at anything. I'm not gonna ever like

728
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: make out or like do cool drugs or smuggle anything,

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00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: you know. Not that I uh that, not that I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm saying people should go out and do that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But the point is that I was credulous, I was gullible,

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Speaker 1: and I was misled, and there was something that was

733
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Speaker 1: pretty vague, even if they translated to sound more specific.

734
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: And so it's easy for us to think a vague

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00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: thing is a specific prediction if we want it to

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Speaker 1: be so. But again, and this is the extra twist.

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Speaker 1: If we're looking at this from a matter of our

738
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: brains perceptions being the defining characteristic of the world, then

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00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: does that make it true. Then if our perception is

740
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: just changed, you know, it's it's a very it's a

741
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: very different mindset. It's placing the hierarchy of inner opinion

742
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: above the hierarchy of the outside world, which could lead

743
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: into another Deckart kind of allegorical Plato conversation. But the

744
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: point is there are people who believe it was right

745
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: about nine eleven. There are people who believe it was

746
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: right about the holographic universe theory, which is something that

747
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: we briefly touched on the show and something you introduced

748
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: me to, Matt. Yeah. You just google Dr James Gates

749
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: and that's literally all you have to do, Dr James

750
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: Gates Jr. And you will find all kinds of information

751
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: about proving through string theory that well, not proving yet

752
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: but getting pretty darn close to it, that everything in

753
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: the universe is made up of code that was written

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00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: on Earth and like the A forget when in the

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Speaker 1: mid nineteen hundreds. Really yeah, yeah, I mean, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's it's it's hard to paraphrase this because I don't

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00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: understand half of it. Again, we're talking about particle physics,

758
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about supersymmetry. Uh, it's it's stuff that's beyond

759
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: my understanding. But this guy does a pretty good job

760
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: of discussing it and helping you understand. So Dr James

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Speaker 1: Gates is the person who believes that he found computer

762
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Speaker 1: code and quantum strings. Is that, yes, they went down

763
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Speaker 1: far enough into the architecture of reality to find the

764
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Speaker 1: building blocks, and those building blocks were close to computer code. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that was written on Earth that you know that existed

766
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Speaker 1: to create a computer, the which you know begs the question, well, hey,

767
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: if that's true, then who made that stuff? And how

768
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: are we in some kind of weird time warp where

769
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: we were created or time loop where we were created,

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Speaker 1: then created ourselves, then created ourselves, then created ourselves. And

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00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: that's an interesting question because it ties into the idea

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Speaker 1: of whether the universe happened or was created. Yeah, there

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Speaker 1: you go. So it's it leads to very interesting things.

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Speaker 1: Which have we done an episode on a holographic universe?

775
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: We did an episode on jam and the Holograms did

776
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: an episode. I can't wait till that one comes out.

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00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: Synergy was a bad Mama Jamma. Synergy was that the

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00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: computer as the computer. I don't you know. We did

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Speaker 1: a video on it. But what we can do is

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Speaker 1: go through and do an audio version. And I'm just

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00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: I just found this talk from April of last year

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Speaker 1: at the Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate, and it was all

783
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: about is the universal simulation? So I think we can

784
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Speaker 1: use that and start running. I just figured out how

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00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: the Mandela effect works. Smart alec jerks like me say

786
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: something exists as a joke and then people remember having

787
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: heard that and then get to a place where they

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Speaker 1: believe that it actually happened. Done you mean, like how

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Speaker 1: New Zealand doesn't exist exactly. We're sorry, guys, We're sorry.

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00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: We made up New Zealand. It was on the we

791
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 1: when we originally put it on the map as a joke.

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00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 1: It was on the wrong side of Australia. Yeah. Yeah, well,

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00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, you win some, you lose some. You definitely

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Speaker 1: don't want to be on the wrong side of Australia.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no. Oh. And

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00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you to everyone who wrote in Melbourne,

797
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: Brisbane and one other thing. This this is very unpleasant,

798
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: but this is something that we do need to talk about.

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Speaker 1: So nine eleven predictions, maybe just a little bit of

800
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: confirmation bias um holographic universe. It's a very fascinating subject.

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00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: We'd like to touch on audio. One thing that he

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00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: did talk about that was true, and you can call it.

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00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: You can call it something that finally couldn't be denied anymore,

804
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: or you could chalk it up to a broken clock

805
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: being right twice a day. For the younger folks in

806
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: the crowd, that's an analog clock, not a digital one,

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00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: because they would stop if you get the pictures. You know,

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00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: and that is that there was a widespread, widespread, organized

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00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: pedophilia or child abuse rings in the UK and the US.

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00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: A lot of people have written to us asking us

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00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: to look at the Franklin cover up. A lot of

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00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: people have written, especially in the wake of the monstrous

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Speaker 1: actions Jimmy Saville uh. He maintains that he had been

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Speaker 1: saying this um for a long time since the nineties,

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Speaker 1: that there was it concerted there was not only organized

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Speaker 1: abuse of children, but that there were concerted efforts by

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00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: people to cover it up. There is darn near smoking

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Speaker 1: gun evidence that Margaret Thatcher's organization, her her government was

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00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 1: aware of high ranking members of parliament abusing children and

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00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: kept the knowledge secret, most likely to blackmail them or

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Speaker 1: to ensure they played ball, sort of the way that

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Speaker 1: the n s A could possibly keep information on high

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Speaker 1: value targets that didn't wanted to influence, the same way

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Speaker 1: it's alleged that the BBC allowed Savile to do his

825
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: stuff when because they're making so much money off the guy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: very similar. So people people will contend that he did

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Speaker 1: not people will contend that David I is pretend being

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Speaker 1: that he blew the whistle on Saville when he only

829
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Speaker 1: did it after the guy died. But if we don't

830
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Speaker 1: focus on that one person, if we focus on the

831
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Speaker 1: idea of these organized abuse networks, then the unfortunate truth

832
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: is that something like them. The unfortunate truth is that

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00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: there is a truth somewhere within that. And we're not

834
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Speaker 1: saying that all the more alarming tales of vast satanic

835
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Speaker 1: networks are true, but we are saying they are organized

836
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: like organized crime is not a conspiracy theory. The mafia

837
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: is not a conspiracy theory, right, The idea of powerful

838
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: people covering up for each other is not a conspiracy theory.

839
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Speaker 1: It is a conspiracy, but not a theory. Oh absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the idea that you look out for

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00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: like minded criminals. Yeah, you know, whatever your crime, maybe right,

842
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: you still mustard. There's somebody else in your mustard thieving gang.

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00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: And I'm not you know, I'm not by any way

844
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Speaker 1: saying those things are equal to murder or whatever. But

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00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: the problem is that it is true. The citizens of

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Speaker 1: European countries, particularly the UK and Belgium, do commonly believe

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00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: on the valid belief to that they're well connected, highly protected.

848
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Speaker 1: Child abuse rings in both countries. So consider Mark d

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Speaker 1: True in Belgium. The case that first off, we talked

850
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: about this a little bit in the past, but this

851
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: guy was convicted ultimately of kidnapping two kids who starved

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00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: to death. He had probably kidnapped and killed more. He

853
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: was working for other people who never really got in

854
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,839
Speaker 1: trouble h the I think was sentenced maybe thirty years

855
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: or something uh recently, and his trial was going to

856
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 1: a standstill. Witnesses were disappearing, somebody died in a mattress fire.

857
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: That was going to talk about larger network, and the

858
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: thirty thousand people protested in the streets because they thought

859
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: that someone was covering this up. One of the judges

860
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: felt their life was threatened and left the case to

861
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: save their family. I mean that that's stuff, is that

862
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: that stuff is not theoretical, as horrible and frightening and

863
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: disgusting as it is and as crazy as some people

864
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: might think. David Ike is on that level. He was

865
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: onto something that sounds like a whole another episode. And

866
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: I know we just covered that type of abuse and

867
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: cover ups in the Catholic Church, but that sounds like

868
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Speaker 1: a whole Another one I'm not very familiar with that.

869
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Speaker 1: Ben was another one that you keep hearing about Hollywood

870
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Speaker 1: and that you know, there are forts that have been

871
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, years and years old. I believe Corey Feldman

872
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: is one that wrote about it in his biography and

873
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: kind of blames Corey Hames death on right and Elijah

874
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: Would I think is even. He might not have exactly

875
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: come out and said that there are cabals of rich

876
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: and powerful men, but he has said that he felt

877
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: he saw as a child actor, got the sense of

878
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: young young actors being passed around at the parties, at

879
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: the parties and stuff, which you know, I'm not I

880
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: don't know exactly if this is true, but it would

881
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: make sense. It's this idea of privileged, rich, powerful men

882
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: typically you know, colluding with one another to get what

883
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: they want. It's not the most uncommon thing in the world. Yes, unfortunately,

884
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: so those are cases where people have said that David

885
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: Ike was either onto something they feel he was correct.

886
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: He is not, as you can tell through this episode

887
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: without controversy. One of the big accusations that he gets

888
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: aside from you know, people thinking he has deluded her

889
00:58:55,400 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: accusations of anti Semitism, and this was interesting. There's a book, yeah,

890
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: considered a hoax document called The Protocols of Zion. This

891
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: book purports to be a genuine account of a conspiracy

892
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: to take over the world by by Jewish people, and

893
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: an account by like high place powerful Jewish people to

894
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: take over the world. For a long time, people would

895
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: treat this as though it were real. It's not. It's

896
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: it's a hoax. It's a fake and unfortunately it was

897
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: used by a lot by many people, including governments, to

898
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: discriminate against and to um rationalized torture murder of innocent people.

899
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: Henry Ford, by the way, a big fan of that.

900
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: But David I believes that it's a real book. But

901
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: he believes here's the thing. He believes it's written in code.

902
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: He believes that the every time the book uses the

903
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: phrase Jews or Jewish, it's code for lizard people. At

904
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: least that's his defense. So he says he's not anti

905
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: Semitic at all, he's anti elite lizard people. Have you

906
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: guys seen that episode in the most recent season of

907
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: Black Mirror Um where it's sort of about soldiers that

908
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: are deployed to take out these reptilian like more like

909
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: insect um. Spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers, This part will

910
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: spoil it. You've been warning don't write to us. Well,

911
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: it turns out it was a spoiler. It turns out

912
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: that the soldiers have been conditioned to see basically refugees

913
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: are people of a different race as these zombie creatures

914
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: through some sort of hypnosis or drugging or I can't

915
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: remember exactly. I think it's hypnosis. Actually, I mean they're

916
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: decoding was different exactly exactly. So this seems like a

917
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: little bit of a hollow argument here for him to

918
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: say that the Jews are really lizard people. Oh yeah,

919
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: there's been all. I was looking through Google just to

920
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: see what is the latest news about him, Mr Reike,

921
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: and what comes up the top hit if you search

922
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Speaker 1: right now as we're recording. This is from a website

923
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Speaker 1: called Jewish News dot Times of Israel dot com, and

924
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: it's the headline is calls for Manchester Venue to be

925
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: fined for hosting David Ike because he has this is

926
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: this is like the biggest other than people saying, you know,

927
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: calling the guy unbalanced or deluded. This is the biggest

928
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: controversy and the biggest question is, Okay, does he really

929
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: believe that argument that he's making or is he like

930
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: trying to backpedal from something, you know what I mean?

931
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,479
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm with I'm with Nolan it. I don't

932
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: think it doesn't match a lot of the other arguments

933
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: that he made throughout the course of his career, you

934
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But does he have a history

935
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: of anti Semitism, Like it doesn't seem like in the

936
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: early days and the stuff we talked about that that

937
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: was necessarily on the table. When did this aspect of

938
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: his uh person, Well, yeah, this came after the the

939
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,439
Speaker 1: after the path switched in the in the nineties. There

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01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: he also, you know, he very much has um what

941
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: some people call a new age side, right, Yeah, that's

942
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: how he struck me. It's almost more like like like

943
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: you said, like he was into all the green you know, um,

944
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: alternative medicines and all that stuff. Like he struck me

945
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: as much more of a peace live and let live

946
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of dude. Yeah. And that's another thing that makes

947
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: and that's something that does seem to come across I

948
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: got that sense to when I was reading about this.

949
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: That's another thing that UM people find controversial about him.

950
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: So they'll say, oh, you're supporting these treatments that aren't working.

951
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: So then the idea, you know, like the strongest criticism

952
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: would be people saying, you know, this doesn't work, and

953
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: you're selling it to people in place of or you're

954
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 1: recommending it in place of something that could work. Unmost

955
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: like some in our argument that might be made against

956
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: anti vexer's right, right, Like, yeah, very similar argument. And

957
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: so now the current news which Matt just reported for us, well,

958
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: that's one piece of it. The other one is that

959
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: he's come out against Trump pretty hard, saying that Donald

960
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: Trump is part of the Illuminati, which I guess is

961
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: expected on one side, but then on the other side,

962
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: just as we I think we mentioned last week, maybe

963
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: that Alex Jones is totally for Trump and he said

964
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: he would die for Trump. He said He's ready to

965
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: die for Trump. So they would not be hosting your

966
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: show together. But how interesting would it be if they did.

967
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: I wonder what they would I wonder what their conversation

968
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: would be like. There is a video you can find

969
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: of David Ike hanging out with Alex Jones on Into Wars.

970
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: If you want to look that up, you can find it.

971
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: That's cool. I might check that out. I wanna see

972
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: what they talking about it. I say, political ideology, opinions aside.

973
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 1: If we've had a president, it's probably a member of

974
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: the illuminati. I would say Trump is is that guy?

975
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: It's funny because a lot of people were saying, you

976
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: know a lot of Trump supporters were saying that there

977
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: is an Illuminati. The people who believe in it were

978
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: saying that there is one, and that he is being

979
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: vilified because he's not a member of that status quo.

980
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: That's exactly what Alex Jones said on on Rogan. He's

981
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: like he's fighting against it. I just want look, I've guys,

982
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: I searched stuff about the illuminati so often. I even

983
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: go to libraries and look at real books, which I

984
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: know people don't do enough anymore. And like, if members

985
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: of the Illuminati are listening right now, can you guys

986
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: please just get a decent website. I just want something

987
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: that I can go, like, let me go click on

988
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: the plan. I'll even turn off my my my proxy

989
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: things that keep the cookies from showing up. I just

990
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: I just want to know, and I just want you know.

991
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: If you're in charge of so much, just take on

992
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: one more responsibility and that would be a decent website

993
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: speaking of weird energy and fantastic seguys. We hope that

994
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: we have we We hope that we've explained a little

995
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: bit of David Ike's origin story, the controversies and the

996
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: things he believes, his supporters, his opponents, and his critics. Uh,

997
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: we'd also like to hear from you, so let us

998
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: know what you think. Is there sand to David Ike's theories?

999
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Is he um? Is he on the money about some stuff?

1000
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: Is he absolutely wrong about everything? Is he exploiting people?

1001
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: Is he being exploited any of the questions that we

1002
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 1: brought up today, and especially if you want to get

1003
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: into one of the specific beliefs or ideas that exists

1004
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: in one of the what ten books that are available

1005
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: now on his website or hundreds of videos on the

1006
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: YouTube channel, There's so much there. We want to talk

1007
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: with you about it. Well, what do you say? We? Uh?

1008
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: We get some listener feedback via the old shot at Corners.

1009
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: First message comes from Grace, who says, my late grandfather

1010
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: was an n s a code breaker at Fort Meade

1011
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: during the fifties and sixties, but for obvious reasons, he

1012
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: didn't talk about it until much later in his life.

1013
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: He passed on a few years ago, and while he

1014
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: never gave away any top secret info, one story will

1015
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: always stick with me. One day, he was filling in

1016
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: for a coworker, breaking foreign codes like a boss when

1017
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 1: he intercepted and deciphered intelligence coming from the Russians are

1018
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: either line of defense on the Chinese border. Well, China

1019
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: had no idea until the United States informed them, giving

1020
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: them enough time to respond to Russia's advances. He quite

1021
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 1: humbly believed that finding this piece of intelligence was the

1022
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: first step towards improved relations between China and the US.

1023
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: While I can't confirm that Grandpa was right about that,

1024
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed the story, and I thought you guys

1025
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: might like it too. Well, that's awesome, you know, thank

1026
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: you for writing in it. Sounds like your grandfather was

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01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 1: very good, very humble person. Um. Yeah, that story steaks

1028
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, you know, We

1029
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: we so often forget that one person really can make

1030
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: an astonishing difference for good or for ill. And also

1031
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: that the n s A is doing work with with

1032
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like a lot of times

1033
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: when I think about the n s A, I have

1034
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: negative thoughts about it because of internal well in internal

1035
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: spying and all the things that are in the news

1036
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 1: and in the zeit. Guys, then you remember, oh, yeah,

1037
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: they are actually doing their best to stop bad things

1038
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: from happening everywhere on the planet. Hey, guys, check out

1039
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: this sweet thirty second degree Mason certificate that a buddy

1040
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,560
Speaker 1: of mine sent belonged to his grandfather. Whoa nice Yeah,

1041
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: it's a legit one too, pretty cool? On are you

1042
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Speaker 1: going to post it on instance? I don't know. I'm

1043
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Speaker 1: I mean if I could, if I blur out the names,

1044
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Speaker 1: I think that'd be okay. Um, I'll ask a friend

1045
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: of the show, Wesley. It's not official shout out, but

1046
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: it's a preliminary pre shout out. Okay, it's a wave.

1047
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: It's a wave before you say something, a wink and

1048
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: a nod. Who's next next? We have a shout out

1049
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,040
Speaker 1: for Andrew? Or are these shout outs for people are

1050
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: from people? I don't know what nature from shouting out

1051
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: to Andrew? So a shout out to Andrew from Andrew,

1052
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: we go both ways. It's a two way street here

1053
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,759
Speaker 1: on stuff they don't want you to know. Um, Hey guys,

1054
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Speaker 1: I work in a hotel. Uh and by the way,

1055
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: this is h re the at least a LAMB episode.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I work in a hotel by the Philadelphia Airport.

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Speaker 1: Every guest had to go through a lobby and there

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Speaker 1: were a minimum of three cameras that could see each

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Speaker 1: guest walking in. My question is where are the door

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Speaker 1: videos to see what other people walked in or may

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Speaker 1: have been in the lobby of the hotel. If the

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Speaker 1: hotel is so CD, then wouldn't they have more videos

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Speaker 1: of the hotel? I don't know, not necessarily right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if it's like a low rent joint, maybe they're getting

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Speaker 1: by on the minimum security. That's part of what makes it.

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Speaker 1: If you've got videos in uh, in the elevator like that,

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Speaker 1: you've definitely got some more CCTV cameras somewhere. And that's

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Speaker 1: a good way. If you have an inside the elevator shot,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be something in the hallway is going to

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Speaker 1: be at least a canful at least the lobby for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they don't have to give us that footage. They

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Speaker 1: released this, you know, I mean, they released this of

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Speaker 1: their own listen to kind of probably in a way

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Speaker 1: give a sense of like, Okay, there was something up

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Speaker 1: with this girl. We were not at fault. We did

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Speaker 1: our job, we were doing something. Yeah, that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's a great question, Andrew, And that got me.

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Speaker 1: That got me thinking as well. And I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: on the same page with Mike Patriots here. I think

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Speaker 1: they just the l a p. D just chose what

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Speaker 1: to release. I threw us a bone, you know. Um,

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01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: I and not usually that guy, but I I am

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01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: probably of the three of us, it was the most

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: creeped by that episode and feel like maybe there was

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01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: some serious potential for some some spell works, some weirdness.

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Speaker 1: But I also think that between the three of us,

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01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: we had the sense that there could have been some

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Speaker 1: amount of covering up going on as to how what

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Speaker 1: led this young woman to be where she ended up,

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Speaker 1: um meeting her end so tragically. So uh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the fact that only that one camera was released

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: was trying to place the blame on the victim. And

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Speaker 1: we we shall also take a moment to think not

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Speaker 1: just Andrew, Thank you Andrew. But all the people who

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01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: wrote in, uh, in the hospitality industry who were telling

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01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: us stuff about how this works. Uh, we had some

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01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: great information about what hotel liability is. Uh. And I

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Speaker 1: won't see your name on the air, my friends, but uh,

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Speaker 1: the the person who wrote to us and said, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm in the UK and at our hotel,

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Speaker 1: we often get ladies who walk up and just go

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Speaker 1: to a guest room. Yeah, and the bad things happen sometimes, right,

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: and to what degree the hotel is liable. We'll we'll

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01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: follow up with some of that in the future. In

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01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: the meantime, are are very lash out of for today. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're not sure if this is Kate or Katie, but HI,

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Speaker 1: we'll we'll go with only because it's spelled k A

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Speaker 1: y t E, which really pronounce it both ways. Depending Well,

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Speaker 1: we're hooked on phonics kids, so we'll we'll try for Katie. Um,

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01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,799
Speaker 1: Katie says, my name is Katie. I live in southeast

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Speaker 1: Ohio with my fifteen year old son, who is on

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Speaker 1: the autism spectrum. We don't have television or internet other

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01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: than my phone. I stumbled onto your podcast and my

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01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,759
Speaker 1: son comes out to listen to. He laughs and he smiles,

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01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: He shares comments with me, and we talked for hours

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: on your topics. He loves listening to you, and he

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: is excited to see what he finds. This is the

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01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: land that time forgot on purpose, and my son and

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01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: I are both thinkers. Another note, I love that you

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Speaker 1: were open minded. I am a practicing pagan on a

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01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: wicked path, and the lack of immediate judgment is a

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: breath of fresh air. Finally, I listened to one of

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Speaker 1: your live broadcast regarding the advancement of technology in our world.

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01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: You've addressed how it is becoming more likely that people

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01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 1: integrate technology into self and life. My thought is, has

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01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 1: anyone taken the darker side of human nature and the

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01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: likelihood uh of any small portion of the population going

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Speaker 1: the other way? Hunters gathers human prey to the technically

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 1: improved Praying on the week. I mean, I think if

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01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,799
Speaker 1: you want to see an example of that and pop culture,

1131
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: look no further than Black Mirror. We bring it up

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: all the time, or at least I do. I'm hooked

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01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: on the thing. Charlie Brooker, who is the creator of

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,560
Speaker 1: the show and is also kind of like a you

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01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: can call him a media critic. He sort of looks

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: at the zeitgeist and does a really good job of

1137
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: like pulling out tropes and trends and things that have happened. Um,

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01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: he's very funny, but he also clearly has a dark streak,

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01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 1: and that showed to me is all about the dark

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01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: side of technology. You know, we focus on how it

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01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 1: improves our lives, how it makes us you know, more connected,

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01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 1: whereas this show talks more about the hidden, uh flip

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01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: side of all of this technology and how in many

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01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: ways it makes us more disconnected and alienated and alone

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01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: and scared and makes enemies of friends, you know what

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01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: I mean. So I really recommend you checking that out,

1147
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: not for your son. I wouldn't think it's got some

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 1: very intense themes, but it's a it's a very very

1149
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 1: well done show. Yes, Influx And and further, I would

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01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 1: go even even further with the question Katie, which you

1151
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: talked about the possibly the bad possibilities. Black Mirror is

1152
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: a great example of various dystopian possibilities in the very

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01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: near future. How are the technologically uh technologically advantage not

1154
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: already praying on people totally you know what I mean, like,

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01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: how how is someone from a wealthy country with all

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: these amazing things that their fingertips not in some way

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01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 1: participating in exploitation of people who live in countries that

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01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 1: suffer resource extraction just to get the rare minerals right, right,

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: or you know, there's a there's a reason that the

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: Banana no Wars happened, and it wasn't for any high

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01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: faluting ideal about human rights, no matter how it's packaged

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01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: for the masses. And it's so easy to forget that

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01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: even the least of us in this country, you know,

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01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: who might consider ourselves lower middle class, we probably still

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,799
Speaker 1: have smartphones. You know, we probably still have an Internet connection.

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,839
Speaker 1: We have access to these things, and we sometimes forget

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: that other countries and people who are much much much

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: worse off than we are just don't. And and you know,

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: it's I guess the first world problem kind of thing,

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01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: right where it's like, why I want the nicer smartphone

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01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: or I want the faster internet connection. But I mean,

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01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: we are so absurdly privileged that at times it's a

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01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: little dizzy ng and it's and people can live in

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01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: such bubbles the way the technology that could unite us,

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01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 1: tends to make the species sort of divide. You have

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01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: to wonder if that's purposeful or if that's just a

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01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: sad effect of our um group psychology. But um, you know.

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Speaker 1: Another example is Gadaica. That's a pretty good example, right

1179
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: where right where, If you've got the money, you can

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: afford to pay for the gene therapy. For lack of

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01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: a better term, I guess it's really more gene manipulation. Yeah, yeah,

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01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 1: And then sorry, spoiler about from spoiler about Gatica. That's

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01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: not really like as the trailers in the It's in

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01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 1: the tagline of the movie. Oh boy, okay, thank you

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01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: for writing in everyone. And this concludes gosh. This also

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01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 1: concludes our episode, but it does not conclude our show.

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01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: Not yet. Not yet. Well, I guess it depends on

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01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: what happens. Right. We will be back. We'll be back

1189
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: next week, but we will be online all the time.

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01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook and Twitter and Instagram.

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01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: We are Conspiracy Stuff on the first two and Conspiracy

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01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: Stuff Show on the third. One last thing before we

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Speaker 1: get out of here. We will be in Brooklyn, New York,

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01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 1: at the Bell House on April eight. That's this year.

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01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,440
Speaker 1: April eight, we have a show there with the Majority

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01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 1: Report with Sam Cedar for the NYC Podfest. We will

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Speaker 1: be live, we will be podcasting in your face and

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Speaker 1: you will be right in front of front of us.

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Speaker 1: You should come out. It's uh, it's gonna be extreme.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be so extreme, not that expensive, and so

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Speaker 1: much fun because we'll get to hang out, take a date.

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Speaker 1: We'll make you look good. And we're even thinking about

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01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: doing a little a little meat up. So if the

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01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: thought of kicking it with Benn and Nole and Matt.

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01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: I just referred to myself from a first name as

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: though I was some kind of king, spelled n O

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Speaker 1: l L by the way, not not not true. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we spelled k in oh w as in the grassy God.

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember where we were. We were talking

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01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: about how people should let us know if they want

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01:17:58,439 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: to hang out, let us know they want to hang

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01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: um and you know, if you want to do it

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Speaker 1: via social media channels that doesn't pop your bubble, you

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01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: can write to us at that same emailage, as we

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Speaker 1: always say conspiracy at how stuff works dot com. M