1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I'm Mike Spofford. He's Wes Hodkowitz. Were 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: coming to here from our studios at lambeau Field West, 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Christmas Day, a three three pm Central Time kickoff at 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. It will be the Packers against the Browns 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: here in week sixteen, if I have that correct um. 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: This Cleveland Browns team, I tell you an interesting bunch 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: seven and seven this year, right in the thick of things. Uh, 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: they went from having a chance to be in first 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: place in the a f C North had they hung 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: on and and been able to beat the Las Vegas 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Raiders on Monday Night, But by losing that game on 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: a walk off field goal, they dropped all the way 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: to last place in the a f C North because 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: things are bunched up so tightly in that division. The 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: intriguing thing about this Browns team, though, is, and I 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: admit I haven't watched a whole lot of their games, 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: but you look at their results, you look at the 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: way their season has gone, a lot of injuries, guys 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: on the COVID list, all this kind of stuff. It 21 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: just feels like you don't really know what you're gonna 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: get with the Cleveland Browns. You might get the team 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: that absolutely dominated the Pittsburgh Steelers in the wild card 24 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: round last January, or you might get the team that 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: a handful of weeks ago lost forty to seven to 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and was never really in the game. Um, 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: and I guess that's how you end up seven and 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: seven and and fighting for your playoff life here the 29 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: last three weeks of the regular season. Well, and in 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: that division too, Mike, doesn't it kind of feel like 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna end up coming down to some kind of 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: tiebreaker that ultimately decides a ten or maybe even a 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: nine win team from winning that division. Just how this 34 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: thing has started gone in in the a f C North, 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: And who knows with what the Steelers having that one 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: tie on their record, like that's going to factor into 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: all the positioning and whatnot as well. Yeah, and obviously 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers aren't out of this suddenly. So that's been 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: my main takeaway this season from the North as it's 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: just it's been this weird sort of thing where each 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: of these teams looks really good at times and then 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,399 Speaker 1: also can look really bad. And from Cleveland's perspective, it's 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: kind of you know, Kevin Stefanski has done a nice 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: job with them there, Alex van Pelt, the offensive coordinator, 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: they have the right core, it would appear, uh and 46 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: in the direction in which they're moving. But unfortunately for 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: the Browns, for the last basically fifteen years, it's been 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: very much the same story. They've had some glimpses of hope, 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: and then as soon as it looks like they've turned 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: a quarter and are going to become a contender again, 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: they take a step back. Now. Now, certainly this year, 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: the questions with Baker Mayfield, the fourth quarters, you know, 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: the comebacks and in the failed comebacks. Now the COVID 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: list that extends to what fifteen players, it would appear 55 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: there's been a lot for the Browns to overcome. But 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: as I was telling our readers an insider inbox this week, 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: offensively and defensively, they have guys you have to be 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: aware of. I mean, Nick Chubb is in the conversation 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: for the top five, top three running backs in the 60 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: National Football League right now, and they still have a 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: lot of weapons in this offense. Despite the fact that 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Left. So it's going to be a battle. 63 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's the number one thing that Mattel 64 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Floor is probably gonna be talking these guys about, is 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: this is a Browns team that is basically going to 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: be playing for its season because there is not a 67 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: lot of wiggle room if you don't win that division. 68 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: It's going to be a log jam is trying to 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: get those wild card spots and every win is gonna matter. Yeah. Absolutely. 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: There there are three names with this Brown's team that 71 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: jump off the page at me. You've mentioned one of 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: them already. And Nick Chubb, Um, this guy is a 73 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: dynamic running back. And this is a Browns team with 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski at the helm. They are determined to run 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: the football. They like to run the football. I think 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: that's going to be one of the key elements to 77 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: this game is how well the Browns potentially can establish 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: the ground game in in carving their way toward a 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: potential upset of the Packers. Here the other two names, 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield obviously at quarterback. Everybody one dring you know, 81 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: will he be coming off the COVID list and be 82 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: eligible to play on Saturday. My understanding is the Browns 83 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: are expecting him, expecting to be able to activate him 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: from the COVID list before Saturday's kickoff, and that he 85 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: would play. Um. Now, that would be putting him out 86 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: there to play essentially without having practiced for the last 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Um and the Browns had to go 88 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: to their third string quarterback in the Monday night game, 89 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: the rescheduled Monday night game against the Raiders this past week, 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: with with both Mayfield and case Keenum on the COVID list, 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: and so they had to turn to Nick Mullins. And 92 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: then the other name that you have to talk about 93 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: with these guys is Miles Garrett, the pass rusher. He's 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: got fifteen sacks this season. Now, he injured a groin 95 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: in the game against the Raiders on Monday Night, is 96 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: not practicing to this point this week. His status is 97 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: very much up in the air. Um, if Myles Garrett 98 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: can't play, that definitely changes the look of this Cleveland 99 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: Browns defense. But if he is out there, this guy's 100 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: big time pass rushing well, and a big reason for 101 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: that is, you know, you know, Tach McKinley had his 102 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: injury now, so I think he's basically out, you know, 103 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: moving forward, he blew the Achilles, blew the Achilles. Yeah, 104 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: so then you know Jadeveon Clowney is their next leading 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: sack guy. I think he has five on the season 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: or maybe six. I mean, this thing really runs through Garrett, 107 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: and it's been that way for a number of years now. 108 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: When you come in with a guy that's as Harold 109 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: as he was, he's lived up to that hype as 110 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: a as a top pick and and being able to 111 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: contain him. When I looked at this matchup on paper 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: before we knew anything on Monday, I was like, that's 113 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: going to be the primary objective here for yash Nijman 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: or however it works out with who's going to be 115 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: defending him? Well, then lo and behold. Now he's banged up. 116 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: That's what this season is though, right, and we've seen 117 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: it at every corner, whether it be the COVID list 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: or whether it be just with people's injury reports, it's 119 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: going to be a battle. So certainly, I'm sure from 120 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: the Packers perspective, if Myles Garrett decides not to partake 121 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: in this football game, they are not going to be 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: really too upset about that. But but certainly, as Matt 123 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: Lafleur is kind of talked about, and some of these 124 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: other defensive and offensive players have have assessed, you've got 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: to just sort of look at what they have. And 126 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, Nick I should say Eric Stokes was the 127 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: one that touched on this on Wednesday, is that you 128 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: watch the film, but what these teams look like when 129 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: they have all their pieces and then you kind of 130 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: draw in and fill in the rest from there. And 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: the thing is is that when Cleveland was a d percent, 132 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: when they had what they felt to be their full 133 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: complement of players, this was a legitimate contender in the 134 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: a f C. So I think that's the version of 135 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: the Browns you have to be prepared for because again 136 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: them coming in on Christmas, them understanding that time as 137 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: a ticking this is going to be a basically kind 138 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: of almost a playing game for them. In relation to 139 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: the in relation to the postseason, Yeah, absolutely, they're playing. 140 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: They're playing for their season. And I think with everything 141 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: that's gone on with this team, with the injuries and 142 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: the COVID and stuff like that, particularly if you get 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: your quarterback back, if Baker Mayfield comes back, even if 144 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: he hasn't practiced but if he's activated and he's able 145 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: to play, you know, that's the kind of thing that 146 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: that provides some juice to a team, right that energize 147 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: is a team that's been going through all of this, 148 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: all this turmoil as far as who's going to be 149 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: available and and who's not. So I think the Packers 150 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: have to be ready, even though the Browns are on 151 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: an even shorter week than the Packers are, with playing 152 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: with a Saturday game, with the Browns just having played 153 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: on Monday night, I think you have to be prepared 154 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: for a very energized Cleveland team with everything they have 155 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: on the line. And I want to see Baker because 156 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: obviously we, like you said, Mike, we don't get a 157 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: chance to watch a lot of the Browns basically because 158 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: of our jobs and the fact that they haven't played 159 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: him since that overtime game in Cleveland in two thousand seventeen. 160 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: This young man, you know, he's kind of been maligned 161 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: at times, but I still think there's a lot of 162 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: potential there and there's a lot of talent. So I 163 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: just from my own two eyes, just kind of understanding 164 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: what he looks like, I am in a way sort 165 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: of rooting for him to play in this game. But certainly, 166 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's the way this thing has gone with COVID. 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: We didn't expect that Kenny Clark was not going to 168 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: be available last week when you and I were going 169 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: about our week. This week, I wrote about MVS. After 170 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: the game, we all thought, Okay, well here we go. 171 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: There's the key to this whole thing that defenses are 172 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: doing against Davante Adams and then Marcus Veldi Scantling ends 173 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: up on the COVID list. It's the nature of this season. 174 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: And you know, hopefully for the Packers, they've been on 175 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: the decent side of it when you look at the 176 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: rest of the NFL so far. Yeah, and it'll be 177 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see, uh, whether or not the Packers can 178 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: get back either MVS and or Kenny Clark off the 179 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: COVID list to play in this game on Saturday. Um, 180 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: the possibility is there, but there's also not necessarily any 181 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: guarantee that that's going to happen. And and and if 182 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: they if either one is able to come off the list, 183 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: what kind of impact, um, they would be able to 184 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: have so very much kind of a if he just 185 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: feels like a wait and see thing um, you know, 186 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: waiting up until kickoff on Saturday, if the Packers are 187 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna have these games. Matt la Fleur always plays these 188 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: things pretty close to the vest, but kind of like 189 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy back in the day with the hard pressed, 190 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, somebody so and so will be hard pressed 191 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: to play in this game. The floor sort of has 192 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: his little idiosyncrasies too in terms of how he relates, 193 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, talks about players. It does sound like there's 194 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: a really legitimate optimism there that Clark could be available. Certainly, 195 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: you've got to go through the process this week, and 196 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the s is the one that because and the reason 197 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: I think that too is because on a normal timeline, 198 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: this would have been within the boundaries for Clark to play. 199 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: MBS now becomes sort of the guinea pig here because 200 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: you start to wonder, Okay, with these new COVID rules, 201 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: what does that mean in terms of when he becomes 202 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: asymptomatic or when he's available to be you know, back 203 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: out there. That's the stuff over these next couple of weeks, Mike, 204 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: we're just gonna have to kind of figure out because 205 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: until that happens, where a guy test positive but then 206 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: plays in the next game. You're you're kind of just 207 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 1: sitting here wondering, you know when that that other foot 208 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: is gonna drop? 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Pro Bowl 218 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: announcements came out the Packers with three Pro Bowlers in 219 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: the initial selection process. Aaron Rodgers sets a franchise record 220 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: with his tenth Pro Bowl selection. He now surpasses Forrest 221 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: greg and Brett Favre, who had nine a piece. Davante 222 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: Adams gets his fifth consecutive Pro Bowl selection, which, as 223 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: I believe you wrote about, is now one shy of 224 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: James Lofton's streak of six consecutive for a Packers wide receiver, 225 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: and then Kenny Clark gets his second Pro Bowl, not 226 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: his first one as an original selection. Um certainly well 227 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: deserved for all three of those guys, but I'm particularly 228 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: happy for Kenny Clark because he's just He's a guy 229 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: who plays that position. The stats aren't necessarily there, but 230 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: his work, his impact on games on a regular basis 231 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: when he's in there, is being recognized. You have to 232 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: be able to understand, and I've said this so many 233 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: times this year, Mike, to watch Kenny Clark is to 234 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: know what kind of impact he's making on a football field. 235 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: You can't just look at a box score and understand 236 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: how talented this guy is and in how much he's 237 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: affecting the opposing team, in the opposing quarterback. The other 238 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: reason I really thought that Kenny Honor was fantastic was 239 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of first time since Henry Jordan's Mike, 240 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: going back to nineteen sixty six when he wont when 241 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: he got to his last Probo believed the last of 242 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: his five, that's the last time the Green Bay Packers 243 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: have actually had a defensive tackle that's been able to 244 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: go to multiple Pro Bowls. It's a difficult position to 245 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: get accoltes. Think about all the tremendous defensive tackles the 246 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Packers have had over the years. The Gilbert Browns, the 247 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: Mike Daniels, you know that. You know, the Brian Picketts, 248 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: the b J Rodgers. It's not easy to do. So 249 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: for Kenny to get that recognition, I think is well deserved. 250 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: I think the one that jumps off the page to me, though, 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: is the Davante Adams one, because now you start to 252 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: stack these up, you would imagine here, in a few 253 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: weeks you'll be all pro again. He's starting to put 254 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: together that resume that could potentially give you that door 255 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: into Canton. And that's been the thing that I thought 256 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: was illuminating because for the first time, you know, Aaron Rodgers, 257 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: people give him credit. You know, people talk about Davante 258 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and and how he is one of the best now, 259 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: if not the best receiver in the game. But when 260 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: he was speaking to the media, and I can't even 261 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: remember if it was to your question who asked it, 262 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: but when he was talking about that, the thing he 263 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: thinks about the most now is the gold jacket. To 264 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: my recollection, that was the first time Davante has uttered 265 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: those words out of his mouth and for him to 266 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: start being able to channel that a little bit. That 267 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: shows you the confidence the young man, but also the 268 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: self reflection and understanding what he's accomplished in his first 269 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: eight NFL seasons. He's right there now. And I think 270 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: when you think of guys that could potential to keep 271 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: stringing this together at age thirty one, I don't see why. 272 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Davante Adams. I don't see any signs of him slowing 273 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: down here, especially with that synergy that he has with Rogers. Yeah, 274 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: it certainly doesn't look that way by any stretch of 275 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: the Packers also did have some alternates um to the 276 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster, Aaron Jones was named a first alternate 277 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: at running back, and then um, there are other alternates 278 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: you know down down the way that aren't specified exactly 279 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: what round they are, but cornerback Russeul Douglas and punter 280 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: Corey Horkez. And was there another Gary? That's right, I 281 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: knew I was forgetting one with Shawn Gary as well 282 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: at edge Rusher. So for alternates total, the one here 283 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: that of course jumps out at you is Russeul Douglas 284 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: because and a lot of a lot of folks are 285 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: asking asking me in the inbox, and I'm not quite 286 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: sure how I'm going to be able to necessarily nail 287 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: this down one way or another. But a guy who 288 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: starts a season on a practice squad and ends up 289 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: as a Pro Bowl alternate, I don't think I've never 290 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: heard I've never heard of that happening before. But hats 291 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: off to Rasseul Douglas. Obviously we talked about him a 292 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: lot on this show already. But but that type of 293 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: that type of path, that type of journey within one 294 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: NFL season to be on a practice squad and then 295 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: end up as an alternate to UH to the NFC 296 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster. Heck of an achievement. Resul Douglas was 297 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: signed seventy nine days ago at the time in which 298 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: we are taping this episode of Packers unscripted. What he 299 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: has accomplished in just over two months time, not to 300 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: learn a defense, not to get you know, kind of 301 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: brought into a locker room, but to make the plays 302 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: that he's made for a team that has legitimate Super 303 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Bowl aspirations. You'll see this a lot in the past, Mike. 304 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: We did the stories ourselves back in two thousand and 305 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: eighteen when the Packers were out of playoff contention, things 306 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: weren't really going the right way. We'll see guys that 307 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: kind of pop up on a roster and make an 308 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: impact late in the season. They make for good stories. 309 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: This guy is a game changer. This guy at some 310 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: intervals could be considered the best player on this defense 311 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: at times with what he's been bringing in the points 312 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: in which he has been generating, with some of these turnovers, 313 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. And well, we'll get 314 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: down the road here. The Packers are going to try 315 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl and this will be something 316 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: way down the line will reflect upon. But the job 317 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: that Brian Goodkins has done his scouting department have done 318 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: over the last twelve months, given the salary cap sort 319 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: of limitations that they're under, has been nothing short of extraordinary. 320 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: And for Matt Laflour to take that talent along with 321 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: his coaching staff and make their scheme adjustable enough to 322 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: welcome in guys mid season to have them be able 323 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: to play it their full at their best. This is 324 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: how a team with three Pro bowlers gets to be 325 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: eleven and three. That's how you do it, and it's 326 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: been incredible to watch. Yeah. Absolutely, I want to make 327 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: one more announcement here. With Christmas right around the corner, 328 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: anyone looking for a holiday gift. Idea of folks, team 329 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: history and Cliff crystals book, The Greatest Story in Sports 330 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: is now available at the Packers Pro Shop. It's a 331 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: four volume hardcover book set that tells the true complete 332 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: story of the Packers first century, from humble beginnings to 333 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: heartbreaks and triumphs. Buy your copy online or in store today. 334 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: And I got an update for you, Mike. I was 335 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: just down in the Pro Shop. I picked up my 336 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: NFC North Champions hat in T shirt. I gotta go 337 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: do that, man, you do Yeah, I can't do that 338 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: for you. There's a checklist I have to go. I 339 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: have to go do that. But they got a new 340 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: batch of these books back in there. It was getting 341 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: pretty bare there for a second. These things were flying 342 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: off the shelves hot cakes. I'm telling you, Mike. Uh. 343 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: The fact that they got some more down there. Cliff 344 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: Crystal was nice enough, generous enough, gracious enough to sign 345 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: my book as well. So, yeah, if you haven't had 346 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: a chance yet, we're running short on time here. If 347 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: you celebrate Christmas. You gotta pick up a book. Just 348 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: a couple of days away now, All right, West Saturday 349 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: lambeau Field, Packers, Browns, Keys to victory here for Green Bay. 350 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: We all know what's on the line for the Packers. 351 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: You're looking at as of now. If you win out, 352 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: you're the number one seed, you get a buy, you 353 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: get home field and all that. We talked about everything 354 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: that's on the line for the Browns. There's certainly plenty 355 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: on the line for the Packers. What do the Packers 356 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: have to do? What is the top priority? Two finish things? 357 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: On Saturday night at twelve and three. I think there's 358 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: two things that need to happen, and I'm probably gonna 359 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: end up stealing one of years, but I want to 360 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: address this. If they can get Kenny Clark back, I 361 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: feel like this Packers run defense is a championship quality 362 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: caliber unit. Times have it changed? You're not seeing the 363 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: thousand pound line anymore of picket Raji Howard Green. You've 364 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: got guys that are a little bit more versatile, a 365 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: little smaller, but yet still really stout. And when Kenny 366 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Clark is in the ballgame, like how many times this year, 367 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: I wish there was a stat I'm sure PFF has 368 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: it whatever, But I mean, how many times have we 369 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: seen it where he gets in the backfield and it 370 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: redirects a runner off of what his assignment is. That's 371 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: big time football. So if Kenny Clark is back, I 372 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: think stopping the run as paramount. But as I've continued 373 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: to say, I think getting off to a fast start. 374 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: I think if you can break the will of the 375 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: Browns right off the bat, if this offense can get 376 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: into a rhythm from series one, like you saw what 377 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: happened in the second half of that game. Offensively, you 378 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: get it's a momentum driven game. You get a feeling 379 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: of Okay, is this going the direction you want to 380 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: go or is it not really going the direction you go? 381 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: Do you feel like the Packers can move the ball 382 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: downfield or does it feel like it's gonna be difficult 383 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: getting a yard. I had no qualms, no doubts, no 384 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: confusion whatsoever what the Packers were able to do in 385 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: the second half of that game against the Ravens. So yeah, 386 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: I think this is a game in which you start fast, 387 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: you put your foot down on the pedal, you come 388 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 1: up with that twelve victory. Yeah, my initial thought at 389 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of the week when I was asked an 390 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: insider inbox, are the keys to winning this game for 391 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: the Packers? And this is what I wrote. I said, 392 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: block Myles Garrett and tackle Nick Chubb. Those are the 393 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: to me, that's what this game comes down to, those 394 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: two things. Now, we don't know if Myles Garrett is 395 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: going to play or not, so we talked about that before. 396 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: But Nick Chubb is going to play. And this is 397 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: a this is a run oriented Brown's offense, and it's 398 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: not an opponent you know that you see, Like, like 399 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: we said, two thousand seventeen was the last time the 400 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: Packers face these guys, right, and and we saw last 401 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: week facing a somewhat unconventional Baltimore Ravens offense, it gave 402 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: the Packers some problems that you know, both early in 403 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: the game and then also late in the game. So 404 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: to me, to me, if you can, if you can 405 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: prevent Nick Chubb from being the guy that's sort of 406 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: controlling the tempo and controlling the down and distance and whatnot, 407 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: then I I like the Packers. I like the Packers 408 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: chances to win this game because if the Browns don't 409 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: get nick upgoing. I just don't see them being able 410 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: to score enough points to keep up with Aaron Rodgers. 411 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: And where this Packers offense is the fact that this 412 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Packers offense has scored thirty plus points, not including Rasul 413 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Douglass pick six is has scored thirty plus points in 414 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: the last two games. And yeah, it would be great 415 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: to get Kenny Clark back, but I also think the 416 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: guy that the guy that's taken this Packers run defense 417 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: to a different level from what we've seen in past 418 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: years is Devandre Campbell in the middle of things. And 419 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: I know a lot of fans are wondering, how does 420 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell not make the Pro Bowl and all this? 421 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: And look, Deveandre Campbell has had a Pro Bowl caliber season, 422 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: there's no denying that. But in the NFC, there are 423 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: only two inside linebackers selected on the Pro Bowl team, 424 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: and they're Micah Parsons and Bobby Wagner. You can't have 425 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: any qualms about those two selections, quite frankly, and that's 426 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: nothing against Campbell the season that he's had. But if 427 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell is going to make the Pro Bowl team, 428 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: then either Micah Parsons or Bobby Wagner is not going 429 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: to make it, and that to me, it's just not 430 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: realistic and and uhum, And I say that not taking 431 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: anything away from the player Campbell is and the impact 432 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: that he's had for the Packers, particularly with the run defense. 433 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: The only thing I was gonna say is with Michael 434 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Parson's maybe you can make an argument it could be 435 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: an outside linebacker. Very kind he ends up getting slotted 436 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: in the roster as a as an inside linebacker, and 437 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: you're right about that. Maybe maybe that's not exactly where 438 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: he fits and it could have opened up a spot 439 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: for something. But that's what makes Micah Parsons Micah Parsons, Yes, 440 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: I have lived long enough. No though that I've watched 441 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: Julius Peppers play inside linebacker in a Pro Bowl game. 442 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: So I mean, these are the things that happened with 443 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: a very inexact science and imperfect And we've seen Clay 444 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: Matthews play inside linebacker for half a season plus playoffs, 445 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: so you know there's there's that as well. One thing 446 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: to keep an eye on the AP voting is going 447 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: to happen here in a few weeks. I'm telling you, man, 448 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: even if you know Devondre Campbell doesn't make his way 449 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl. There are four spots for a 450 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: p first and second team and inside linebacker. I'd be 451 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: very interested in maybe some people out there, some educated 452 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: writers are able to take notice of it's a it's 453 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: it's a tough group to crack. We were talking about 454 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: some of the names the other day inside linebacker in 455 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: the NFC. It's a tough group to crack. But as 456 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: you said, the four spots first team, second team on 457 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: the All Pro it will be it will be interesting 458 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: to see quick shout out to Corey Lindsley too. He's 459 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: a first team All Pro center and now he can 460 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: finally call himself a Pro Bowler. Here we go. Took 461 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: the David Bakti pathwords, got got All Pro first and 462 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: then and then Pro Bowl came later. A couple of 463 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: quick thoughts I want to get from us. With regard 464 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: to other games, the most important one on the slate 465 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: as it relates to the Packers this week will be 466 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football the Washington football team at Dallas. The Cowboys, 467 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: of course, looking to win the NFC East and stay 468 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: in the hunt for the number one seed. They are 469 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: the team that is the biggest threat to the number 470 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: one seed um that the Packers are trying to get 471 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: right now, because even though they are one game, but 472 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm the Packers at ten and four, with Green Bay 473 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: at eleven and three, they have the best NFC record, 474 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: the best conference record, and they could steal that number 475 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: one seed if they went out and the Packers were 476 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: to lose the game. Conversely, if Dallas were to lose 477 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: another game, suddenly the Packers have the leeway to the 478 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: extent that they don't necessarily have to win out in 479 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: order to get the number seed. So that's an interesting 480 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: one to keep an eye on here and Washington. Much 481 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: like a lot of these teams in the NFC fighting 482 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: for wild card spots, that squad has a heck of 483 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: a lot on the line Sunday night, Yeah, Mike, And 484 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: that's part of it that I think is the most 485 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: interesting here as this thing comes down the stretch. I 486 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: was trying to get up the standings for everything, but 487 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: our internet alright, T staff might have actually popped out 488 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: for Christmas a little bit early. But uh that said, uh, listen, 489 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: you know you're when you looked at your path to 490 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I had a chance to thumb through 491 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: it already. Dallas is such an interesting anomaly in this 492 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: whole deal because of how their season lined up. The 493 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: Packers have to play Cleveland this week, all the Inner Conference, 494 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: all the a f C stuff that's already behind the Cowboys. 495 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: They have an interesting slate here to finish the season 496 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: against the NFC. So you won't be scoreboard watching because 497 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: you're a game up right now on everybody. You just 498 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: want to focus on beating the Cleveland Browns and getting 499 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: onto the next one. But that being said, following what 500 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: Dallas is going to do against the NFC is a 501 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: really strange sort of anomaly that developed here over the 502 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: last few weeks. And and certainly, you know l A 503 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: is still very much in this Tampa Bay has a 504 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: very favorable schedule. There's a lot out there for these 505 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: other contenders to get up back into the race for 506 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: the first seed, but it's Dallas and and Dallas has 507 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: been a team too that has kind of gone through 508 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: its own issues, its own ubs and flows, and just 509 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: seeing what that team looks like at the end of 510 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: the season, because arguably they have the two most exciting 511 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: young defensive players in the league right now it's it's 512 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: gonna be something to watch. Yeah, one last one to 513 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: throw at you, Rams at Vikings, Rams on a very 514 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: show actually having played on Tuesday night. Oh you got 515 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: your connection back. But now I'm on week Rams at Vikings. 516 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 1: And I just bring this up because I mentioned it 517 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: in the Path of the Playoffs um piece, which is 518 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: which is now posted on Packers dot com. The Rams 519 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: are ten and four. They're one of these four teams 520 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: that is just one game behind the Packers in uh 521 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: that chase for the top spot in the NFC. If 522 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: you're a Packers fan, do you cheer? Do you cheer 523 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: for the Rams to get another loss? Or because it's 524 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: the Vikings and they're the NFC North rivals, do you 525 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: not want to see your NFC North rival You do 526 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: you want to see your NFC North rivals playoff chances 527 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: take a hit? So you cheer for the Rams to 528 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: beat Minnesota? What are your thoughts? So here's a great 529 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: question because I was talking to Stephen Huddy, our Packers 530 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: social media coordinator, about this, because he was talking about 531 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: how you really don't want to play the ram or 532 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: do you really don't play the Vikings? Really don't want 533 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: to play the forty nine years. The thing is that 534 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: so many gosh darn teams make the playoffs. Now you're 535 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to eventually see some of these guys make it. 536 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: So my thought is, I think Minnesota in San Francisco, 537 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: both of those teams are fully capable of winning in 538 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: the postseason. I don't know if they're going to be 539 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: able to win two games in a row, though, but 540 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: they're good enough that they can create some chaos. So 541 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: that's why in my mind I look at it as 542 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 1: the Packers want to get that first seed. They want 543 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: to get to buy. Minnesota doesn't threaten them with that 544 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: right now. If you if you're if you're the Packers, 545 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: if you get if you get the buy, you're not 546 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: competing against a against a seven team playoff field. You're 547 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: competing against the fourth field because by the time you 548 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: have to play, three teams are eliminated. So my thought 549 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: process is, yes, would Minnesota be riding on into Lambeau 550 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about itself if they beat the Los 551 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Angeles Ram, Sure, But if the Green Bay Packers are 552 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 1: the number one seed right now in the NFC, that 553 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't matter. You should take care of business against the Vikings, 554 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: hit them down, get them back down there with the peasants. 555 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: So my thought is is it's like the more distance 556 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: you create with these other top contenders, the better. Same 557 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: thing I look at with with the Cowboys right now. 558 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: If the Cowboys can get knocked off the pedestal in 559 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: one of these games, it gives you that much more 560 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: breathing room. My thought is if the Greenbay Packers can 561 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: go into Detroit needing to win, I'm under no disillusions 562 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: here that they're just gonna be able to be rest 563 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: starters against Detroit with the way the set up works now. 564 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 1: But if you're able to go in there and know 565 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: that we just gotta beat this Detroit team that's gone 566 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: through a lot of problems this season to have the 567 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: one seed in the bye, that's all that's really the 568 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: ultimate goal here, and then finally get that that by 569 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: get the get the week off. So yeah, I guess 570 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: I tend to favor the Vikings in that matchup, all right, 571 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: And with that we'll call it a wrap on this 572 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 573 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: our coverage of Saturday's game against the Browns. Will have 574 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: it for you on packers dot com for WES. I 575 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: am Mike, Thank you for tuning in. Everybody, Merry Christmas. 576 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: We will see you next time.