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Speaker 2: Well, some of the crews off today as Fitzie, our man,

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Speaker 2: Jason fitz is taking a little r and R at

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Speaker 2: the draft and Figgy Kevin Figures is on paternity leave,

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Speaker 2: so we want to thank we want to say congratulations

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Speaker 2: again to the Figures family. keV had the baby, little

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Speaker 2: baby Oliver was born last weekend, New fella, So we

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Speaker 2: love Kevin and his wife and wish them the best.

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Speaker 2: And uh, joining with me, Joining with me. I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: We've never done a show. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz a terrific talent right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, what do you say, pal, I'm glad to be

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Speaker 4: a fella. I mean, I'm glad to be on man.

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Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's nice.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: People call me big fella every now and then, so

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Speaker 4: I get to be a fella on the radio. I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're listen, this is natural for you. Are you

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Speaker 3: kidding me? We're talking sports, I think for four hours.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We can talk other things if you would like to,

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Speaker 4: but no, it's fantastic. We got so much to cover,

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Speaker 4: so I'm glad to do it with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, listen, there might be a little

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Speaker 2: Derby stuff and little fun things and you know, it's

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Speaker 2: a big day today culturally. Do you like do you

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Speaker 2: like the Derby and all of you?

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Speaker 4: So, I uh, you know, I worked for Fox Sports

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Speaker 4: as well, and we cover the Derby on the gambling side,

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Speaker 4: and I've you know, I've been studying up this week

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Speaker 4: and whatnot. I like the race, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: the pageantry leading up to a two minute race is

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Speaker 4: like very interesting to me. That and I know there's

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Speaker 4: thirteen races or something today too. It's not just one race,

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Speaker 4: but you know, the actual Derby race, the last race

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Speaker 4: is just a pageantry of it. I love all of it.

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, how just just.

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Speaker 4: The setup for it, you know, the people that are

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Speaker 4: there and all that, and then just to race for

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Speaker 4: two minutes and it's done. I will watch to Derby today.

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Speaker 4: I have wager on the Derby today on some advice

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Speaker 4: and some friends. It does feel like you have to

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Speaker 4: sort of follow horse racing year round to really get

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Speaker 4: the race, if that makes sense, right, Like you can

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Speaker 4: easily hop in and say, okay, Firis is gonna win,

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Speaker 4: They're the favorite. I'm taking fierceness Like you can easily

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Speaker 4: do that. That's nothing wrong with that, but to understand

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Speaker 4: the other I think it's ended up being what twenty

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Speaker 4: pay attention all year long. But that doesn't stop you

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Speaker 4: from watching. And I'm I dude. I texted buddy yesterday

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Speaker 4: Chris Filica. We have a podcast called bare Bets together

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Speaker 4: for Fox Sports. I said, hey, man, how are you

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Speaker 4: betting this race? He's like, I'm doing a box of

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Speaker 4: this and I was like, okay, fine, I did. I

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Speaker 4: did exactly what he told me, exactly what.

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Speaker 3: He told me.

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Speaker 4: For two I have I have thirty two dollars bets

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Speaker 4: I followed the race. I think that's like I'm a

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Speaker 4: normal sports fan. I mean, you know, I watch football, basketball,

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Speaker 4: baseball full time and then you know, on a Saturday

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you and I are exactly the same. We

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Speaker 2: look at it. I don't know, I don't understand all

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Speaker 2: the uh the new wants of the I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I'm giving if it's an event I'm in right like

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Speaker 2: if the sporting event that matters, I'm made. So we'll

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Speaker 2: have the Derby expert today to actually talk intelligently about it,

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Speaker 2: because I I really I can't tell you chapter verse,

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Speaker 2: And they're like, what are you doing, dude, like scratching

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Speaker 4: They're treated better than humans, which is it's just like,

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Speaker 4: the race. I mean they're worth millions of dollars. Of

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Speaker 4: course they should. But you know, it's one of those

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Speaker 4: we know with all this, you know there's thirteen races

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Speaker 4: to like Vin Scully and Chick Hern call sporting events.

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Speaker 4: I love the call of the race is my favorite thing.

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Speaker 4: my favorite thing, especially when you know Rich Strike won

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Speaker 4: It's my favorite thing. And I still love play by

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Speaker 4: The voice, the voices that are great, and their excitement

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love the call. I think maybe more.

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Speaker 2: Than that, I love the fact it's funny you said

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Speaker 2: that because one of the things, so I'm a sports geek.

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Speaker 3: I love the same thing.

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Speaker 2: I love the broadcast of again, like you talk about

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Speaker 2: The art of him calling his game that was so unique,

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Speaker 2: This storytelling was just remarkable. It kept you you know,

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Speaker 2: I used to look forward to, you know, games that

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Speaker 2: So I would love, I'd love to just watch them

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Speaker 2: I is it you feel the bigness of the event, right,

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Speaker 2: whether it's the iron Ball, or whether it's the Masters

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and it obviously adds an element to the fan

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Speaker 4: Sometimes it's nothing. I mean, you know, that was what

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Speaker 4: Vin Scully perfected, right, Yeah, he was the first guy

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Speaker 4: Look Vin Scully, And I'm not even a Dodgers fan.

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Speaker 4: I actually despise the Dodgers. I'm a Giants fan. Our

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Speaker 3: You're a Giants.

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Speaker 4: My dad's from northern California, as I grew up a

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Speaker 4: but listening like to Vin, especially in baseball, there's no

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Speaker 4: it really adds to it. I can't wait for that today.

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Speaker 4: Like the here the guy called the race, it's like

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Speaker 4: the funnest thing, man. It's the excitement they have and

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Speaker 4: the joy for the sport. I think that's almost better

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Speaker 4: than the race. Sometimes it's funny. Yeah you said, yes,

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Speaker 3: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: He brought this up because this is a sweet spot,

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Speaker 2: you know, for me. I love I'm you know last night.

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Speaker 4: I've love I'm like, I'm I know I play in

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Speaker 3: Like, what else? Have no other playing time?

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Speaker 4: I'm watching sports again for the thousandth day in a row.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching exactly exactly. We'll get into all that, we'll

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Speaker 2: Fitziam Anthony Gargano when we hang out right here on

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Speaker 7: I'm Joe Madden, and we're going to be around to

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Speaker 6: It's the Book of Joe podcast.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for this, Joe.

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Speaker 6: We're going to dive into what goes on in the

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Speaker 2: Derby Day and Jeff.

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Speaker 3: That one was for you, Ian.

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Speaker 2: Listen, man, we got this great call about the biggest

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Speaker 4: We've had a lot, We've had more long shots win

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Speaker 3: It's not about defense. It's not about winning.

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Speaker 3: And it's so much better.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and even just let the execution down the stretch, right,

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Speaker 4: that's the mixer, A mixed thing is I mean, I

435
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Speaker 4: said this the other night.

436
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Speaker 3: You know, look, I'm an East Coast guy. You're an

437
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: East Coast guy.

438
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: I have young children, and I can't stay up and

439
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 4: watch NBA till midnight very often. That Nick Sixers game

440
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 4: the other night, man, I was standing away for that one.

441
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Speaker 3: I can't.

442
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 4: I don't remember the last time I felt that way

443
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 4: about around one game where I don't have rooty interest.

444
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 4: I'm a six Ers fan, my Knicks fan I had,

445
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 4: I don't carry when's that series? But the level of

446
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 4: play from the superstars was fantastic. The level of hatred

447
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 4: with the fan base, I think it was a huge part.

448
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 4: Villains are so important in sports, like having a villain

449
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 4: and whether you look Lebron is that guy right? And

450
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 4: whether I like Lebron but he's a villain, right, people

451
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 4: watch to root against him. You and you need fan

452
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 4: bases that don't like Lebron like you need this in sports.

453
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 4: And Philly and New York hate each other.

454
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Speaker 3: I mean you play for the Giants. I mean, you

455
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: know it's it's it's wild.

456
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Speaker 4: In all sports. I'll explained to my son this too. Yeah,

457
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: everything is alex baseball, basketball, football.

458
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Speaker 9: And.

459
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Speaker 4: That is so vital to the success of sports in

460
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Speaker 4: my opinion. And it just elevated that series. That was

461
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: a fantastic series. And look, it wasn't the best of

462
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: play at times, right, I mean there were games when

463
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Speaker 4: one superstar scored a majority of points for the teams.

464
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 4: There were superstars that faded down the end of game games.

465
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 4: I mean Tobias Harris still hasn't scored in for seventy and.

466
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Speaker 3: Two hours, to tobyas if he's Cats but a friendly coasts.

467
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: And and he he he wasn't the the the Tony

468
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Speaker 4: snow forty two minutes and zero of everything and get

469
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Speaker 4: me started. It's quite it was impressive to play what

470
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Speaker 4: I mean, thirty minutes and shoot the ball twice. I

471
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: have zero points, no foul shot attempts. It's it was

472
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Speaker 4: quite an impressive feet But you need the NBA needs that,

473
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Speaker 4: and I think it was. It was a great way

474
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Speaker 4: to start the postseason. Ah, you spot on.

475
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Speaker 2: I mean it's funny obviously, I do it from his

476
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: six ers slant, and you know, I drum up the

477
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: whole the rival I worked in New York at the

478
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: Post for a long time, and then I came back

479
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: home to Philly. It was funny. I wrote a guest's

480
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Speaker 2: column in the Post, and my old sports who's now retired,

481
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: sent me an email saying, hey man, nice.

482
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Speaker 3: To see you back in the big time instead of

483
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Speaker 3: that triple A town you live in. The idea from

484
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Speaker 3: that you couldn't give up. It was funny.

485
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Speaker 2: But the rivalry of the cities, like you said, and

486
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: and you know, they came down and took over you know,

487
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: Sunday at the Wells Fago Center and then you know,

488
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: it was like a rallying cry defend Wells Fargo Center.

489
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: The other night. It was just wild. But you're right,

490
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: like the level of play was so good, just so good.

491
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: It was incredible for a first round series. And let's

492
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 2: face it, neither of those teams were gonna beat the Celtics, right,

493
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: Like the Celtics, you know, barring catastrophe, are going to

494
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Speaker 2: the finals. I mean, it's a disparity between them and

495
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Speaker 2: everybody else in the and they.

496
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Speaker 3: Just don't know they don't have the shooting and scoring.

497
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: Nah, right exactly, we brought some. It's amazing, right, I mean,

498
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 2: he's just ridiculous.

499
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 3: But you know, you don't. They don't. They can't.

500
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: You know Boston between I forget porzingis right now, he's

501
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: a little banged up with the calf.

502
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 3: But between Tatum.

503
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Speaker 2: And Brown and White and the way they move the ball,

504
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they just have enormous power, right like they

505
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: have firepower coming.

506
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Speaker 3: And I just don't think the knicks. Uh.

507
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Speaker 2: And first of all, I think Indiana has a real

508
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: good chance of beating the mix. I like Indiana that series.

509
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: It's okay, I can see. I can just see it

510
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: right now because you would write, you would write, and

511
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: they're not winning indet.

512
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Speaker 3: It plays no defense. I'm not sure they I don't know,

513
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: but you're right right.

514
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 4: Indiana can score with more weapons and I think maybe

515
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: more ways to score. They just don't play any dealing.

516
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 4: Brunson is the liable to go for fifty at night

517
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Speaker 4: against them.

518
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Speaker 2: He will, I figure he will. Now it's you know

519
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: it will be the Vincenzo will be heart like, where's

520
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: that supplemental scoring going to come from? Because the other

521
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: thing they have is like, you know, Turners have terrific player, right,

522
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: you got Halliburton, you got Siakam. They're an interesting kind

523
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: of group. I just think they're you know, if the

524
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Speaker 2: Nick said Julius Randall in the flow, I would say

525
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 2: it would be different. But I think it's a good series.

526
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be interesting because of what you

527
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: said class styles. But you know, I think it's gonna

528
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Speaker 2: be Uh. I do think Indiana only because I just

529
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: don't know how to Knicks are gonna We're gonna keep up.

530
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: The Sixers had to the two best players on the floor,

531
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Speaker 2: but they had nobody else.

532
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, until the last game. Buddy Hill was to

533
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Speaker 3: sleep right. You know Jessey he came alive in that game,

534
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: didn't he. No.

535
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Speaker 4: I think if you look at Indian again, I look

536
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: at a lot of times in sort of previewing a series,

537
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: a game is how many ways do you have to win?

538
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: Right?

539
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: Because the more ways you have When we talk about

540
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 4: versatility in sports, it's because it's for the postseason, it's

541
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: how many different ways do you have to win?

542
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: Right?

543
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 4: And to your point about the Knicks, they sort of

544
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: need Josh Hart to give him that seventeen to twenty, right,

545
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: and he does it better at home than on the road.

546
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: That's role players tend to be that way, right, they

547
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: need to get you know, de Vigenda didn't really shoot

548
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 4: terribly well till till game six of that of that

549
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 4: last series. You know, they need something inside, whether it's

550
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 4: Robinson or like they need they sort of need these

551
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: things to sort of go in their direction where Indiana

552
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: has more ways to score. And Siakam didn't. You know,

553
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: he played really well at first couple of games that

554
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: series and sort of faded off, but they had other

555
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 4: players step up in the meantime. So you're right about that.

556
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: I just a team doesn't play any defense kind of

557
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: scares me in the postseason, Like no defense at all.

558
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: Everything can be set up perfectly and then you're not

559
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 4: able to close it out.

560
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Speaker 2: It's interesting because of Carlisle, because Carlisle is a guy

561
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 2: that understands defense too.

562
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Rick's been doing it first. They just

563
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: might not have the guys to do it either. Yeah.

564
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think you're right. I think you know

565
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: that's completely completely fair point. It should it should be

566
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: a good series.

567
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: Listen.

568
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll be better than that Knick

569
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: sixer series because just the nature of every game. I mean,

570
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Game six was wild, right, because the Knicks come out,

571
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: get out to a thirty three to eleven lead, they're

572
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: up twenty two, and everybody on the Philly sads going,

573
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: oh my god, what.

574
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 4: Right?

575
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because they've been in the playoffs now seven

576
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: times since the process, right since they yeah, they tried to,

577
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: We're going to restart the whole thing, press the reset.

578
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: And so it's been seven seasons and have yet to

579
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: get out of the second round. And we've seen a

580
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: myriad of losses like crazy, you know, losses from Kawhi

581
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: hitting a quadruple dooint three at the end to win

582
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: the game, to you know, Ben Simmons not taking a

583
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: dunk right hard and quitting a game seven last year

584
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: against Ballston. It's been one crazy thing after another. And

585
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: so when that happened, people are scarred. They're going, oh

586
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: my god, not again. And then they have a furious

587
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: second quarter and Buddy Healed, who was afraid, truthfully, he was.

588
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: You could see he was. He was a little intimidating

589
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: from the moment he didn't shoot the ball. He would

590
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: he played the first three games of the series. He

591
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: didn't feel it and he was shying away from a shot,

592
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: and Nick Nurse couldn't even play him for two games.

593
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: He was a d MP, so you know, and then

594
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: O you know, that's the beauty of what we talk about, right,

595
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: he gets hot and it's like, wow, I shoot.

596
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: You back in the game.

597
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: And then the Sixers are up ten in the third

598
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: quarter yep, all right, and then they're down eight at

599
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: wild and then they tie the game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, go figure.

601
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I when they were down thirty three eleven, I

602
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: grabbed six Ers plus nine and a half. I was like,

603
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,239
Speaker 4: that's too many points that this game is not going

604
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: to be a blowout. In a game six like this,

605
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: there are I was, I was right, I got I'm

606
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: glad I grabbed the points.

607
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: Just what was the money line, by the way, at.

608
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: That point, I don't know. I don't, I don't. I

609
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: don't wager on live money lines very often. I just

610
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: I'll just take the points.

611
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: I was curious. Yeah, yeah, I would have.

612
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: I mean, at that point, if you're nine and a

613
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 4: half near two to one, probably it's my guest, Yeah,

614
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: it would have gone to at that point. But the

615
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: NBA sort of has a way of evening itself out

616
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: in the postseason where big leads end up being especially

617
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: if you're on the road, they end up of closing dramatically.

618
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: And but that's the quarter. As soon as we're winning.

619
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Speaker 4: I mean, if I take it like a second half,

620
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: like a first half money line, I mean I probably

621
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: would have gotten more than two to one.

622
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Speaker 2: It was an incredible I had I told you there

623
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: guy yesterday thirty said say to take the sixers when

624
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: they were down twenty two to be up at halftime,

625
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: because they were up fifty four to fifty one at halftime.

626
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: It was the money line half was close to it

627
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: was over forty to one.

628
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Speaker 2: Wow, it's nuts. That's that's a nuts. That's a long

629
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Speaker 2: shot of the Derby Man.

630
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Speaker 4: That's you probably had some some Philly fans just pounding

631
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Speaker 4: that that that place, bet that place, Bet button there too.

632
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Speaker 3: We can do it, guys, we can do it. Hey,

633
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Speaker 3: let's sit tight.

634
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: We got to take a time out where the fellas

635
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636
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Speaker 2: All Right, fellas from the tay Iraq dot com studios,

639
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargan, Fellas Haggen, Uh, Jeff, so real quick.

640
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: So we were talking about where do the Sixers go

641
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: right after their elimination. They have a very interesting off

642
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 2: season ahead of them. Only Embiid and Maxie are under contract. Okay,

643
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: so they get to the dal Morrie now gets to

644
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: fill in an entire roster. There was a parade yesterday

645
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: in town, in the farewell parade of Tobias Harris. Okay, dude,

646
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: if I told you I did. Yes, I was on

647
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Speaker 2: a float. Yes it was. It was a lot of fun.

648
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Speaker 3: It was. I love to I have to tell you.

649
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Speaker 2: Tobias is a awesome dude, like one of the He's

650
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Speaker 2: a great guy.

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Speaker 4: I feel horrible, but he's He's not being paid to

652
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Speaker 4: be an awesome dude. He's being paid. Just put the

653
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Speaker 4: ball in the hoop exactly. Look, I know we do

654
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Speaker 4: the thing where we say, oh, that guy's nice, but

655
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Speaker 4: he sucks. I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean I look,

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Speaker 4: I'd rather have I guess a Tobias Harris than Pat Beverley, right,

657
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: like attitude wise, I'm not just.

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Speaker 3: But also the job is to.

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Speaker 4: Score points, you know, and help your team with yes,

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Speaker 4: And I guess if you're gonna get nothing, you'd rather

661
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Speaker 4: be Tobias Harris and be light right and and and

662
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Speaker 4: have a people and be respected, then then be Pat Beverley.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I guess in that in that regard,

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Speaker 4: being a nice person is worth it obviously, But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean his job, he could be a nice person.

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Speaker 2: But for some reasons, I always feel the need to

667
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Speaker 2: like preface it, like if I want to think of funny,

668
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 2: like not a cheap shot, because I'm not like about

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Speaker 2: cheap shots, but you know, like where you make a

670
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: joke type of fig I mean literally, I called m

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00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: Katzmer a friendly ghost because he is. He's really do

672
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Speaker 2: great dude. I mean, we did the movie Hustle together

673
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: with Adam Sandler and he was, you know, he's fantastic,

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Speaker 2: Like he's just great dude. Anyway, they overpaid him because

675
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler the coach, didn't want to sign Jimmy Butler

676
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 2: and they had to overpay him, and he gave him

677
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Speaker 2: the super Max Max deal and he's just failed every spring.

678
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: He just never lived up to anywhere close to that contract,

679
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: and so people got tired of it, Like they viewed

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00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: this off season like, oh my god, thank god. The

681
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Speaker 2: silver lining is no Tobias Harris. I mean, he came

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Speaker 2: to that like the worst signing in the history of

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Speaker 2: the city.

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Speaker 4: It's just the thing about the Sixers, though, is can

685
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Speaker 4: you trust that Embid as healthy when it matters the

686
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Speaker 4: most like that? Like that is I think the hard

687
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: part about where they're at right now, right because you

688
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 4: Embid obviously, it's extremely talented, and he's a guy that

689
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Speaker 4: you need to have available in the biggest moments of

690
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Speaker 4: your season, and he just has been hurt and then

691
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: he hasn't been the guy you needed in those moments.

692
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Speaker 4: And if you build around him, which you should because

693
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Speaker 4: he's that talented and MVP and whatnot, and not many

694
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Speaker 4: players his size and move like him right and shoot

695
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Speaker 4: like he does. But if he's not going to be

696
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent come the postseason every year, it don't

697
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Speaker 4: matter who else you have. And then do players want

698
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: to come to Philly and basically be told, hey man,

699
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Speaker 4: you might have to carry the team every postseason.

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Speaker 3: You know that.

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Speaker 2: That's the question I have about Yeah, Max, now legitimate star,

702
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Speaker 2: the legitimate coach star with him beat. I mean he

703
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: played Reggie Miller in the Garden and that in that

704
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Speaker 2: performance the other.

705
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Speaker 3: Night that was Local right three at the title game.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's the young foul right trying to follow.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was great, you know, enough space and

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Speaker 2: warithal to kind of go and and you know find

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Speaker 2: I mean he raised up from you know, steps inside

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Speaker 2: mid court when he takes a shot. What did you

711
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 2: do with that shot? Did you yell scream or yeah?

712
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Speaker 2: I mean I was you know, I love it. I

713
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 2: don't you know, I'm not demonstrative when I watch games.

714
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Speaker 2: I'm boring. I liked, I have my notebook and I'm

715
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Speaker 2: a geek, right, so I kind of just enjoyed my

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, I'm quiet.

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Speaker 3: I'm quiet. I mean I think I did probably say

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Speaker 3: something I had.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're from Philly. I hardly doe you're quiet

720
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Speaker 4: in those moments. But I have a big mouth. But

721
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Speaker 4: I'm still quiet, Like I don't know what. For years

722
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: I was a journalist, so why yeah, you have to

723
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Speaker 4: be quiet in the press box, and so.

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Speaker 2: I don't you know, so I kind of still subscribe

725
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Speaker 2: to that. You know that kind of those tenants. But

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Speaker 2: you know, I love that stuff. You know, it's it

727
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Speaker 2: was just in the press box.

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Speaker 3: Why not anybody just let them? Just let him be excited.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what, man, I forget about it.

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Speaker 2: U When I first got that into the business, those

731
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Speaker 2: old timer guys.

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Speaker 3: Man, they would you better not go anywhere near that.

733
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Speaker 2: That's like the cardinal sin of journalism. But you know,

734
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Speaker 2: just to put a bow on this sixer thing, what

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Speaker 2: do you think, Lebron, if we're a sixers, do you

736
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Speaker 2: do whatever you can to try to woo Lebron?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: You know, Darvin hand being out is a big step

739
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 2: in for the Lakers. He would have a better chance

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Speaker 2: at winning. Yeah, if your pair him with Max even Beat.

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Speaker 4: Sure, Lebron, I don't think he's leaving Los Angeles, but

742
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Speaker 4: I think you call, right, I mean, you call and

743
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Speaker 4: see what he says. I don't think he's going anywhere.

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00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: He's just he's so intrenched in Los Angeles. Also, I

745
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Speaker 4: don't know if he would be frustrated playing with him

746
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Speaker 4: beat or not, but that would frustrate him, right if

747
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Speaker 4: he's not healthy At the end of the rison, Actually,

748
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Speaker 4: Lebron has settled in LA.

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Speaker 3: He's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 4: I don't really see that, and I don't think LA

751
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Speaker 4: is any close to winning either. Right, He's not gonna

752
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Speaker 4: win in Los Angeles, but I don't think he's going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Fellas will be back in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 10: That's right, Jeff Schwartz in for Jason fit He's a

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Speaker 10: new fella, a lot of fun. I'm Anthony Gargano. Kevin's

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Speaker 10: how off to Figgy. He had a baby, So we

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Speaker 10: want to.

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Speaker 2: Congratulate Figgy on his new baby, Oliver, Figgy and his

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Speaker 2: beautiful wife.

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Speaker 3: So I want to.

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Speaker 2: Send our wishes out to the Figures family. So cause

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Speaker 2: you just joined in, We've been all over a lot

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Speaker 2: of NBA talk, a lot of NBA playoff stuff, and

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Speaker 2: one of the things I want to get with you

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Speaker 2: this week this hour is a little NFL.

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Speaker 3: My brother, Oh, let's do It's always a NFL season, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I know, man, I know. It's now after the draft.

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Speaker 2: One of the things I had to talk to you

772
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: about was the Giants and the direction and the mindset listen.

773
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: I think Neighbors is a terrific player. I love him, right,

774
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: I think he's just talent. But I just don't understand

775
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: that pick. When you look at that quarterback and you

776
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: look at shortcomings, and you look at where they're at

777
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: and their inability, how do you pass up, you know,

778
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 2: getting involved in the quarterback race.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's a good question. So I think a

780
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Speaker 4: couple of things that I liked about with actually the

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Speaker 4: Giants did. I'll explain sort of why. So we know

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones signed basically what was a two year deal

783
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: before last season? Right, It's a two year deal eight

784
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: million dollars. You remember, guys that the reported contracts are

785
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 4: different than the actual contracts, right, so when your four

786
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: year deal, it's no, it's actually was a two year

787
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Speaker 4: deal and they get out of after the season. So

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Speaker 4: this this quarterback class, from my perspective, there was an

789
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: upper tier, right, it was Kayla Williams by himself, then

790
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Speaker 4: Jane Daniels, and then Drake May and then I think

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Speaker 4: it was McCarthy and then I think a little bit

792
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: of drop off between Nixon, you know, from Nixon Pennox. Right,

793
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: So you're sitting at where they were, and I think

794
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 4: the general idea of trading up for a quarterback it's

795
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Speaker 4: mostly a dud. Now the Chiefs obviously did it, but

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Speaker 4: they're there a unique situation because of the infrastructure they

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00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 4: have and the team they already had and their specific

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00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: need for Patrick Mahomes. Like they wanted Mahomes, they had

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Speaker 4: a winning team, They're able to trade future assets for

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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes. Out of outside of Kavib Williams, in this draft,

801
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Speaker 4: there was not a quarterback I thought that was worthy

802
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Speaker 4: of giving up multiple first round picks for your future.

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Speaker 4: And the Giants are a team that is not talented

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Speaker 4: enough to trade up for Drake May, which I think

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Speaker 4: they would have done or who he was. He was

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00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: the option, you know, and New England wanted Drake May

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Speaker 4: at three and we're going to give it up unless

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00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: they got a godfather deal, and the Giants were going

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Speaker 4: to do it because Drake May wasn't good enough to

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Speaker 4: do it. I think the Giant it's called hey, man,

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Speaker 4: like you would you take a first in a second?

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00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 4: They're like, no, we want three first round but you know, whatever,

813
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Speaker 4: they whatever they asked for, and so I think the

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Speaker 4: Giants made the right moves and look, we're gonna stay

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Speaker 4: at six.

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Speaker 3: Well, but it's also.

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Speaker 2: An argument as to those other quarterbacks, right, and the

818
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Speaker 2: tears and what you think of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I will tell you.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, so Baldy and I but Brian Baldinger

821
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Speaker 2: and I do a breakdown show, so we have to

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Speaker 2: do all that stuff. So we do all the tape

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Speaker 2: and stuff, and I have to tell you, I mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I'm not taking Panic six six, but you know,

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Speaker 2: there's an argument to whether you trade down, whether you

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Speaker 2: can figure out a way just.

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Speaker 3: The neighbor is.

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Speaker 4: Going to be a good I don't think Panic is

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Speaker 4: going to be a you don't like, well, I don't

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Speaker 4: think he'll I don't. I think him and Knicks are

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Speaker 4: at best average in the NFL, and you don't tramp

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Speaker 4: for average.

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Speaker 2: Well that's if you assess that that if you believe that,

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Speaker 2: you believe that that Pennix is going to be iris,

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I give it more of a shot than you do.

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Speaker 2: I love the arm talent, like I just think he

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Speaker 2: was the best and thrown outside the hash of all

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Speaker 2: of them. Uh, he doesn't have the touch and one

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00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: of the couple of things over the you know, some

843
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: of his weaknesses over the middle, but I mean the

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Speaker 2: arm talent speaks for itself. Like if you get him

845
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: in the right with the right quarterback coach, you know,

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Speaker 2: the medicals he from what I heard, I'm not worried about.

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00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: That as much. Right, So he was healthy the last

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Speaker 3: two years.

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Speaker 2: He's also I'll make the argument like will good place,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have some fun with it. He's he's a

851
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: kid that went to Indiana. They got its highs eight.

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00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: He competed against Ohio State, right Like, you know, he

853
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 2: goes to Washington and here his receivers were about to leave.

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00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: He's charismatic enough to keep his receivers there. And then

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00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: you know, last year has just a remarkable season, right

856
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: like you know, from beating.

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Speaker 3: Oregon twice to Texas.

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Speaker 2: You know, Michigan gaming was a little bit of a dud,

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Speaker 2: but it's Michigan game and it's a defense.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he has a lot of Indian agels and

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00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: he's got the biggest arm.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you know how you hate New York sports.

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Speaker 4: I'm an Oregon duck and we hate Oh yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we hate Washington in the same way. Guy.

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00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 4: So let me preface this by saying that, I look,

868
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't think people watch Michael Pennix play all season.

869
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 4: You know, they played Arizona State this year the week

870
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 4: after they played Oregon and they scored zero offensive touchdowns.

871
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 4: Arizona State allowed points to everyone this past season between

872
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: both Organ games. So that was like Week six and

873
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: week seven they played Organ and then obviously patter he

874
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 4: can play on six sixty percent passes.

875
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: Yep.

876
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: The the Texas game was incredible. He played really well

877
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 4: in that game, did not play well. Got to Michigan.

878
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 4: I think we saw the limitations of him in that

879
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: Michigan game.

880
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: What do you think he's limit taste? Let's look at

881
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: his skill set, right, because yeah, I saw those tape.

882
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: I saw the Arizona State tape. I saw the whole thing. Yeah,

883
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: and I agree with you that there are ideas his

884
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: biggest weakness to me that you tell me what you

885
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: think is over the middle, right, identifying stuff and accuracy

886
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: over the middle.

887
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 3: Well, wasn't.

888
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 4: It wasn't part of their offense. Like I right, we

889
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: don't know if he can do it or not. Because

890
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 4: that the offense was not that. I think that I

891
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 4: think that the issue with him is when the when

892
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 4: the pocket is cloudy, his footwork, which is not great anyways,

893
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 4: is even worse. And he he played in an offense

894
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 4: the offensive line went won the Joe Moore Award for

895
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 4: the you know, the best offense in the country, and

896
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 4: they certainly deserved that.

897
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: They were fantastic.

898
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 4: He played with three wide receivers draft in the top

899
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: one hundred. Okay, his two tackles were drafted. His guards

900
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: they transferred that they'll be drafted at some point next season.

901
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 4: He played with two sixty year tight ends. He play

902
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: a running back that's going to be in the NFL.

903
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 4: A lot of those quarterbacks, outside of recently Joe Burrow,

904
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 4: do not play as well in the NFL because it's

905
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 4: not perfect for them in the NFL. And we saw

906
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 4: specifically the Organ game, the Michigan games when he gets

907
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 4: pressure in his face. Different cat. Now the Texas game

908
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 4: is the awlayer, Right, And this is the question we

909
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 4: have about like a C. J. Stroud from last year, Right,

910
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: it was like, well, are we getting the CJ. Stroud

911
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 4: and played Georgia or getting that played the rest of

912
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: his college career, and we got the George J. Stroud, right,

913
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 4: So the question is do we get the Texas Michael

914
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: Pennix or the rest of Michael Pennock when he gets pressured.

915
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: And so those are the concerns also too. You know,

916
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 4: when you look at the sort of there's the analytics,

917
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 4: the sort of the throws that he makes a mate

918
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: in college versus the throws who will have to make

919
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 4: in the NFL. The accuracy on the throws the NFL

920
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: type of throws, a lot of the in breaking stuff, right,

921
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 4: the the you know, the the comebacks, the post things

922
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: like that, the cross those are he was not It

923
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 4: was less accurate. Now again he was outside that it

924
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 4: wasn't part of the offense to be fair. Again, like,

925
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 4: it wasn't like he just turned down opportunities of the

926
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 4: middle field to throw the balls at the numbers. So

927
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 4: those are my concerns about just the translation of his

928
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 4: game to the NFL. And that obviously wasxkews the way

929
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 4: I feel about the Giants skipping on him at six.

930
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: So it's so it's so interesting, right because and I

931
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 2: feel you on pressure, right, because that's the biggest.

932
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: Thing, pressure to sack rate. Yeah.

933
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean you think about Daniels for a second, because

934
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: the one thing.

935
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: He has to work on too is eyes up right, Like.

936
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the eyes, the eyes up it matters, and especially

937
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 2: with a frame like his right.

938
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 3: So I think that piece of it.

939
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: You know, you go better anybody about what coaching staff

940
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: you go to, because you go to the right coaching staff.

941
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 4: You mentioned this, Sorry to cut you off. It's such

942
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: an important point, guys, just I want we we sort

943
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 4: of have known this matters, but I feel like there's

944
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 4: a movement now in what we do in sports media

945
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: to talk about this openly now, about how important your

946
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 4: coaching staff as your success, and that some guys go

947
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 4: to the wrong place. Now, to be fair, we use

948
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 4: that a little bit too much of the times. We're like, oh,

949
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: Zach Wolson, he could play, he just went with a Jets.

950
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: No, he's not right right right, right, right, right right.

951
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 4: But like in this specific class, you look at a

952
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 4: guy like Drake May going to New England and you're like,

953
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 4: oh man, it's just like you know, like it's just

954
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: like there's not enough there for him right now. Versus

955
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: Kayleb Williams, You're like, holy heck, buddy, you hit a

956
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: home run, even just where you're going right, I know,

957
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 4: the stuff around you and the coaching staffer. I think

958
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: Shane Walder is a really good OC. Yeah, and we

959
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 4: that's a huge part to your point about you were

960
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: getting to like the success of your quarterback is the

961
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 4: staff around him.

962
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 3: It's so it's it's just so everything.

963
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: Look at look at you know, I love Chasetikeen with

964
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 2: the Cults is really strong. I saw what he did

965
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: for Vic for Vic, Oh my god, forteen slip for

966
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: uh for.

967
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 3: Uh for for Jalen Hurts, Yeah, and I a yeah.

968
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 3: And then Anthony Richardson before he gets hurt.

969
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 2: And look at look at how different Anthony Richardson looked

970
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 2: from Florida when you know, you knew we had all

971
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: the skill set, you knew he was a project. But

972
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 2: as quickly he got him quickly improved. I look, I

973
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: think staked, it's like it is a terrific, terrific coach.

974
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: And that just is so important.

975
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: Then I look at Hurts last year and he regressed

976
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: under the coaching staff that they had. It was it

977
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: was a big issue. And one of the issues with

978
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: the Eagles going forward is Hey Hurts, they have an

979
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: amazing team, incredible offensive weapons around him. Obviously they're gonna

980
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 2: miss Kelsey, but they got guys waiting to take over

981
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: on that line.

982
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: That line.

983
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Elane Johnson has always been a big leader on that line. Yeah,

984
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: he's the best. He's just great people and Jordan Baylata,

985
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: so they have veterans right there. So but it's got

986
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 2: to be up to Hurts to get back to where

987
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: he was. And he regretsed and I think I allowed

988
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: to do with the coaching around him. I mean, I mean, clearly,

989
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: the offense it got very predictable. You know that there

990
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: was there was less prestat movement, there was less creativity

991
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: and and you know in in the formations, you know

992
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 2: when when we say things like this, guys, it's important

993
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: because with all the tracking data now and the coach

994
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: it's just very if you're if you are predictable, we

995
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: we know what's coming. We just do like it's just

996
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 2: we we just know what's coming, and you just can't

997
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: be predictable of the NFL. It's it's why we talk

998
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: about you know, formation flexibility and position versatility, because you

999
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: need to just beat be unique and then find different

1000
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 2: ways to attack defenses and offenses and and if you

1001
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: just line up in two by two and and don't

1002
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 2: motion at all, you're not going to be good in offense.

1003
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: And Eagle just got way too predictable, right, way too predictable.

1004
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 2: And they have too many good players in offense to

1005
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: be to be too predictable. Their offensive line is obviously,

1006
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, very elite with Brown and with Smith

1007
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: like you you know, know, some injuries and whatnot with

1008
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: those positions last year. Predict you can't be predictable. You

1009
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: have too many good players to be predictable. And so yeah,

1010
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: I mean they know they went to new OC this year,

1011
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 2: new new DC as well, right, and so it's uh,

1012
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: they should be better. But again coaching staff man as well,

1013
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: I think the Kelsey loss is going to be big.

1014
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: I think big people will imagine he just did so

1015
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: much for that offense. Mentally, he called the protections too.

1016
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, and it depends what offense you're in. Like

1017
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: at some offenses, like for the Chiefs, for example, Mahomes

1018
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: is all the protections.

1019
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: I prefer.

1020
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 4: The quarterback doing them because ultimately it affects him more

1021
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 4: than anyone else in the offense. So getting back to

1022
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 4: maybe hurts being in charge of that much or he

1023
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: ever has been, so maybe this would be the first

1024
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 4: time calse the whole time. That's probably better for his

1025
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 4: growth as a quarterback. If a quarterback is in charge

1026
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 4: of protections, then they know their their their hats and

1027
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: their sights and and they know the issues. They know

1028
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: where they have to go with the ball, Like, it

1029
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 4: makes more sense for them to be in charge that.

1030
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 4: Plus you can it's easier for them to change plays either,

1031
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 4: change protections, easier for the quarterback to have full control

1032
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: of the offense when he's in charge of protections. And

1033
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 4: it takes a special quarterback, by the way, it's not

1034
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 4: just any and I'm not saying Jach is not special,

1035
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 4: but you know, Mahomes being in charge of everything.

1036
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: I mean the Chiefs loosely have protections called Mahomes just

1037
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: does what he wants the line scrimmage. I mean again,

1038
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: he's one of one, so like it's unfair to compare

1039
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: everyone to him, But it hurts. Taking more command of

1040
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: the protections for Philly will be a big growth to

1041
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 3: his game as well, if that's the way they go

1042
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 3: without Kelsey being there.

1043
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I listened. He needs to he needs to

1044
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: do that, but let's take it. Let's keep kind of

1045
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: going around that division. So so to put a ball

1046
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: on the Giants, do you think it like, where are

1047
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 2: they taking right?

1048
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 4: I think they did the right thing because they didn't

1049
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,959
Speaker 4: over draft a quarterback and get in the same spot

1050
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: they are now with Jones. They're just gonna be like

1051
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 4: a six win team. And I'd imagine next year draft

1052
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 4: the quarterback. The classes and is good at the moment.

1053
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 4: There's always you know, they always say.

1054
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 3: That every year.

1055
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 4: After that last year, it evens out and they'll just

1056
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 4: the draft a quarterback. But they'll have Look, they spent

1057
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 4: They've spent two first round picks a tackle, a second

1058
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 4: round pick on the center. They now have neighbors. They've

1059
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 4: drafted cave On Thibodeau like they have. They're building up

1060
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 4: their their roster of good football players. They just have

1061
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 4: to add a quarterback this offseason.

1062
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1063
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised that it's kind of languished

1064
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 2: there where because I love Day and I thought when

1065
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: dabel I, did you know Sean McDermott is a body

1066
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: of mine, all the all those dudes and the whole

1067
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 2: Andy's tree, Andy reach Tree, which is all.

1068
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 3: Around the league now best human of all time.

1069
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: Love, he's the greatest. I think he's the best. I

1070
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: think he's Andy is uh. I learned more about football,

1071
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: but even about life with Andy.

1072
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: I have a fun Adie Reid story if you want

1073
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: to after the break' you'll you'll appreciate this, this food

1074
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: related Indian Reid story.

1075
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, but.

1076
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,959
Speaker 4: The dables, I mean, it's he's a fantastic coach, and but.

1077
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 3: What do you do?

1078
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: You can't overdraft a quarterback though I know and you know,

1079
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 4: I hear he is well enough, like the ownership tends

1080
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 4: to be of the opinion of like we pay Daniel Jones.

1081
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: Let's look like, let's write it out more than they're

1082
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: not big fans have changed, you know, like that, and

1083
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 4: they're just they're just working to overdraft a quarterback. And

1084
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 4: you're right, it doesn't help. They're gonna win six games.

1085
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 4: It's not like a great situation, but they at least

1086
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 4: will have some freedom the next offseason to make the

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 4: to make change a quarterback.

1088
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: It was almost the worst spot for them to be in, right,

1089
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: because you're it would have been tough to argue the

1090
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: quarterback at six. After who goes and then you lose

1091
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 2: out on all Like if you were able to get

1092
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: Joe all, I go out.

1093
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: Well that's a great building block which was there.

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00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you don't pass on al toif he's

1095
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 4: there at six, right, Like if you're so that's what

1096
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 4: I mean.

1097
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 2: You know, listen, I mean neighbors terrific. But nowadays, the

1098
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: level of receivers coming out of college, I mean they're

1099
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: they're littered with them. They're incredible players. Like, there's lots

1100
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: of great receivers coming out. Mark this down. I want

1101
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 2: to get to the AFCU West. The Chargers did a

1102
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 2: really good draft. I want to explain. Oh yeah, like

1103
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: a draft board and why let's do it? Follow your board?

1104
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. I love it.

1105
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: Harball did absolutely love it. All right, we're the fellas well,

1106
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: listen to all roads. Go back to football, baby, that's it.

1107
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 2: We'll get back to the NBA playoffs. But uh, strapping

1108
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 2: because we're gonna do your team coming up next, fellas

1109
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. Fellas from the tai

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00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 2: Iraq dot com studios. Hey don't forget, surely have to show.

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1113
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1114
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Speaker 2: just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts.

1116
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Speaker 2: You'll see this show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air.

1118
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Speaker 3: All right, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony.

1119
00:59:54,640 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: Garganto fellas hanging every Saturday right here Fox Sports Radio. So, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: let's continue our foray around the East. We did some Giants,

1121
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 2: we did some Eagles. Let's do some Washington and Commanders.

1122
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: I love, Yeah, Washington. I'm curious, see what you think.

1123
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: I love Newton obviously, Daniels, you get your quarterback. I

1124
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: kind of I like to kind of reset in the

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01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: rebuild that's going on Washington. What do you think I

1126
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: like it too?

1127
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: Look, I think Daniels was was the clear choice to

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01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 4: make their for the Commanders. I just don't like Kingsbury's

1129
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 4: o C, which kind of I think hurts the way

1130
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 4: I feel about what they can be as a team

1131
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 4: right now. Also, their offensive line is kind of a mess,

1132
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 4: yeah at the moment, and so like that that I

1133
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 4: think is the biggest concern right now. They were one

1134
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: of the teams that was rumored to try to trade

1135
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: back up in the first round, but by that time,

1136
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 4: most of the tackles that I think were legitimate starting

1137
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: tackles were gone by then. Like Jordan Morgan is probably

1138
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 4: not tackle in the NFL. You know, he was sort

1139
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 4: of the last one available there. They did drop Brandon

1140
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: Coleman in the third round, so maybe he ends up

1141
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: being that guy. But that that, to me, is the

1142
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 4: biggest issue on the offense right now is offensive line, right.

1143
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 4: I mean, the weapons are good, running backs are fine,

1144
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: but that offensive line is probably not good enough to

1145
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 4: really impact and help a rookie quarterback in the way

1146
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 4: that you have to. And I just Kingsbury to me,

1147
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: is just an uninspiring offense coordator. And I don't know.

1148
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 3: I wow, I'm curious, So what do you mean right?

1149
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: Because it's in the Cliff people either love him or

1150
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: they just don't. They don't dig them like it's there's

1151
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: very little in between with Cliffs because I told a

1152
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: lot of people that love him.

1153
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 4: So I'm curious, I mean, what what what results are

1154
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: we looking at?

1155
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: Where they love his mind and what he does and

1156
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 2: with how he designs an offense.

1157
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I just had a conversation about it. So interesting.

1158
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 3: I just had a conversation about him. It was this week.

1159
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 2: And the person in it with someone in the league,

1160
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 2: and they were just raving about them because they were

1161
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: they were afraid of Washington. They were building, not not

1162
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: you know, this year, but when they were building.

1163
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Speaker 3: So what don't you like?

1164
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I heard you look at it like, I mean,

1165
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 4: he was the part of it was he was the

1166
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 4: head coach on just a play caller. So so he's

1167
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 4: probably a little bit better as a play caller than

1168
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 4: I head coach. His teams just have gotten worse throughout

1169
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 4: the season, really good at being of this season, like

1170
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 4: the adjustments just haven't been made once team sort of

1171
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 4: figure out what the plan is for that year. When

1172
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Speaker 4: you look at again this time in Texas Tech and

1173
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 4: it's time in Arizona, it was always a fast start

1174
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: and then it was a drop off after October, you know,

1175
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 4: or in Texas Texas case.

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Speaker 3: It makes you hard. I mean, let me ask you this.

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01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 2: Can you make the argument when it comes let's look

1178
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: at it.

1179
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 3: Let's look at Kyler Murray, right, and.

1180
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: There was clearly he was not he was young, right,

1181
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 2: and it was not as bought in as other quarterbacks

1182
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: where when it comes to their studying the offense and

1183
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,959
Speaker 2: understanding where to go, and we know about the video

1184
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: games and all the other stuff and listen, I'll have

1185
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: that stuff's maturity right like, And you know better than

1186
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: anybody because you've been around quarterbacks your whole life, you

1187
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: know that there's a maturity aspect. And I think when

1188
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: Cliff was there, he clearly wasn't the mature quarterback. I

1189
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 2: thought he made some strikes last year, but he wasn't

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Speaker 2: like that. When when Kingsbury was there.

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01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 4: He certainly wasn't you know, on on call duty Extra

1192
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 4: point weekend he was, Uh, he was logging into the

1193
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 4: Xbox a little bit too much. That time was my favorite,

1194
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 4: Like there was like a you know, a random redditor

1195
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 4: would like figure out like he was playing extra on

1196
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 4: the weekends where there's.

1197
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 3: Double bonus points.

1198
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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's real or not, just it

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Speaker 4: entertained me at least. Look, I I just generally don't

1200
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 4: like that style of offense the NFL. I don't think

1201
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: that offense has enough answers as the season goes on,

1202
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 4: with defenses figure out what again what they're doing for

1203
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 4: the season, if that makes sense, Like you have to

1204
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: be so flexible and multiple in the ways you can

1205
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 4: attack defenses, otherwise they figure you out. We just talked

1206
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 4: with the Eagles, right, the Eagles actually got figured out.

1207
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,440
Speaker 4: And I just don't know if Kingsbury's offenses are built

1208
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 4: to last through an entire season and adapt and evolve,

1209
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 4: and to be fair, a lot of them aren't. You know,

1210
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 4: like a lot of them get figured out and they

1211
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: don't know what the second or third or fourth pitch is.

1212
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 4: What makes guys like Andy Reid and and some of

1213
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 4: these you know, and and Kyle shanahan and some of

1214
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 4: these you know mcveighs and of these guys, like is

1215
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 4: their ability to adjust. I remember, was it last year

1216
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 4: before the Rams just ditched their entire run game half

1217
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 4: of the season and completely changed the rushing attacks.

1218
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 3: It wasn't working.

1219
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 4: It was last year, the year before that, it was

1220
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 4: year before that. I think just in the like, no,

1221
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 4: that's not working. Let's complete the exact opposites. Yeah, and

1222
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 4: that takes a lot of hoods. But like to do that,

1223
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 4: you know, like just and in a lot and to

1224
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 4: like inward like self reflection, like it's not working.

1225
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 3: Let's do something else.

1226
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 4: And I think Kingsbury is a final offensive coordinator, but

1227
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 4: it's that adjustment part of it that I think we

1228
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 4: haven't seen that. Maybe maybe as just a play caller,

1229
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: we haven't seen that in the NFL. Right he was

1230
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 4: just a head coach. As just a play caller, maybe

1231
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 4: maybe that'll be different. He It's certainly possible that's what

1232
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: was part of a USC offense last year that was atrocious.

1233
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 4: I'm not pointing that on him, but they made no

1234
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 4: adjustments last year either, and there wasn't much to make.

1235
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 4: They weren't. They were very, very talented. It's like Kiln Williams.

1236
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 4: So that's my concern about Washington. It's just I don't look,

1237
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 4: I don't know if Kingsbury is a top tier office

1238
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 4: coordinator in the league. And I'm not saying you have

1239
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 4: to play with one to be good, but you couple

1240
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 4: that with their offensive line concerns, and I think the

1241
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: legitimate of Washington and now I like Dan Quinn a lot.

1242
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 4: Dan Quinn has proven to be a a very good

1243
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 4: coach in the NFL. Whether it's a head coach very

1244
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 4: good might be strong, but a good head coach in the NFL,

1245
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 4: A coach a Super Bowl, and he's good with Dallas.

1246
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 4: I think their overall decision to go with him was

1247
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: a good one.

1248
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: All right.

1249
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: So let's I tell you what before we get to

1250
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. You got to tell me the Andy story.

1251
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 4: Okay. So I played for the Chiefs in twenty thirteen,

1252
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 4: Andy Reid's first year, and you know, obviously a big

1253
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 4: food guy, and I was I was looking. I was

1254
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 4: a third window freight and signing you know, lead minimum

1255
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 4: type of thing. And you know, I'm not like a

1256
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 4: player on the team that would talk to the head

1257
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 4: coach very often at that stage of my my. It

1258
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 4: was the spring, and it was more a weekend and

1259
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 4: I was at the airport about to go to Backhama Charlotte,

1260
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 4: and Tammy Reid, his wife, came up to me. He said, Hey,

1261
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 4: I'm Tamoy Reich. He was yourself. Andy's over over here.

1262
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 4: They were going out to California for more weekend and

1263
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 4: ay Read had been in you know, had been Kansas

1264
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 4: City for now five months, and we were talking about

1265
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 4: the barbecue. He knew the exact times, like the burnt

1266
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 4: ends were done atom of Joe's Like he just was

1267
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 4: like he's like, he's like at five o'clock, five o'clock,

1268
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 4: the burnt ends are ready at Joe's. And then you know,

1269
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 4: or really Arthur Bryan's whatever it was, because Joe's is

1270
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 4: not that's not what they're known for. And like the ribs,

1271
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: the ribs at Joe's are ready at six o'clock. Like

1272
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 4: he knew the exact times that the best time of

1273
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 4: the day to get the best barbecue at these places

1274
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: were at it was. It was incredibly Andy Reid and

1275
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: just he told my brother, my brother played five years

1276
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 4: that his favorite thing was like a chili Reno burrito.

1277
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 4: It basically it was like a burrito inside of chili.

1278
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 3: Wow.

1279
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 4: Just he just he love He is like my favorite man.

1280
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 4: He is just true to himself.

1281
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: He's the best.

1282
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 4: Andy Reid, like he loves just life and football and food.

1283
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 4: That's all you When I saw he was the highest

1284
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 4: paid coach, was obviously ego involved with being the highest paid,

1285
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 4: But I'm like, he doesn't care. He just wants to

1286
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: coach football and and and eat food and hang out

1287
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 4: with his family. Like the money to him is not

1288
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 4: a concern. Of course, you want to be the highest paid.

1289
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 4: It's a status symbol and he deserves deserves that. But

1290
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 4: at first all was like, that's what Cheezburger's for him?

1291
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 4: Like he just loved dude, I did. The cheeseburger thing

1292
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 4: was the best.

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Speaker 2: So uh, going back to when he first got into

1294
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: the with the Eagles, I've got friendly with him and

1295
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: he granted me. I was doing a book project and

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01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 2: so I spent like two years. I was in team meetings.

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01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: I was on the sidelines. There was a security guy

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01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 2: who I, to this date love His name is Butcher

1299
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: but Kanico, and he was Andy Reid's like right hand man,

1300
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: and in fact, Butchy trained Big Dom.

1301
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: Who made national attention so Andy.

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Speaker 2: So I was with him constantly, and I'd always bring

1303
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 2: him food. Like he loved Philadelphia because we had like

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 2: incredible you know, besides his sea steaks, there's all kinds

1305
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: of you know, great Italian food and like all kinds

1306
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 2: of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Second and biggest Chinatown in the country, Philadelphia. But oh,

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01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 3: it's magnificent.

1309
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 4: The food there. I felt the TV show that never

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Speaker 4: will air, but we did two episodes in Philly and

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 4: it was the Chinese Student in Philly. Buddy, you know

1312
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,520
Speaker 4: this incredible.

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01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: It's Chinatown is unbelievable. Yeah, so where did you go?

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01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 2: That's awesome that you did to What was the show?

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01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 4: By the way, So, my brother and I were doing

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01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 4: a food competition show and we filmed seven episodes of it,

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Speaker 4: and basically the idea was, we go to a city

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01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 4: and you know, we try the local cuisine and then

1319
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,200
Speaker 4: it's like two up and comers, uh, and then we

1320
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 4: have a competition day basically, and we have three judges

1321
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 4: that are like the legend. So we had so we

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01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 4: did a Philly cheese steak one and we had Pats

1323
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 4: and Gino's and one other were our judges, and we

1324
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 4: had a I forget what the name of them were.

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01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 4: We had a vegan cheese steak. It was in a competition,

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 4: the vegan cheese steak one.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: It was incredibly good out so I swear man, I

1329
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 4: was suit, I was buddy, I'm not going to eat

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: it regularly.

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01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 3: I did eat it, you know, for the company. It

1332
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 3: was really good.

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 4: And then we had like so we did so then

1334
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 4: we did a a so did Philly Chase steak episode,

1335
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 4: and we did a Chinese noodles and dumplings. So we

1336
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 4: made homemade soup dumple made soup dumplings. Soup dumplings are ridiculous.

1337
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 4: And then we made uh we made.

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01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 3: Remember where you got them from?

1339
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: I can look it up and text you. I forget

1340
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 4: the name of and then it was it was a

1341
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 4: husband and wife. They had their own restaurants and we competed.

1342
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 4: My brother was I was on one team, he's on

1343
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 4: other team, and we made a soup dumplings and we

1344
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 4: made this pork noodle dish from scratch on competition day.

1345
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: It was the soup dumplings.

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01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: If people haven't had them, they're They're unbelievable.

1347
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: They're just one of the greatest things ever.

1348
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 2: Because this soup clubs and if you like spicy, did

1349
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: you spice heated up?

1350
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 3: Of course, my mad you.

1351
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: It was for A and E but it never it

1352
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 4: got it got basically got canceled. So we're from seven

1353
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 4: episodes like full episodes. But hey man, it was fun.

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01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 4: We all last that. We had a lot of good food.

1355
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're also what all the cities did you do?

1356
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 4: Kansas City Barbecue, Baltimore crab Cakes, Main Lobster, the two

1357
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 4: in Philly, and we did two New Orleans we made

1358
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 4: we did gall Begnet's. I made gumbo from scratch. I

1359
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 4: know how to do it, made it really yeah, I

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 4: made I made it a home over Christmas break. My

1361
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 4: wife and kids are out of town. I made gumbo

1362
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 4: from scratch. Oh yeah, we made it a competition from scratch.

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01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 3: It was incredible. Oh that's awesome.

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01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 7: Man.

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 2: You were talking about great cuisine like New Orleans, that

1366
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 2: that cuisine's ridiculous, and man, you're making a homemade gumbo

1367
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: is when that's done well, that is a ridiculous dish.

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01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 9: You know.

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01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 3: Oh it's incredible. It's just wow. That's falesome. Wow, dude,

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01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 3: I love it.

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 9: Man.

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01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 3: I appreciate that you're you're a cook. Yeah, I appreciate it.

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01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: I like it. I like doing it too. I gotta

1374
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 3: give you.

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01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: I gotta we gotta share our I do a uh

1376
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 2: if you know the feast of the seven Fishes on

1377
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve for the the Italian cultures that that we

1378
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: do that I do a.

1379
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 3: Seventh dish, all these fish dish that you would like,

1380
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: because if you like the crab, I do. My favorite

1381
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: thing is crab and and pasta crab.

1382
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: And spaghetti, where I let the crabs sit in the sauce.

1383
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 3: I make it uh simmer for about about the day

1384
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: and a half. And so it's the.

1385
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 2: Shell, you know how it is like everything's in the shell, right,

1386
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,599
Speaker 2: Like the taste is in the shell, and whether it's

1387
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 2: you know whatever kind of uh seafood dish, and it's

1388
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 2: always that shells the flavor. So you let the you

1389
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: let the sauce simmer and overpasta it's with the crab meat,

1390
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: the sweetness of it and the tomatoes. It's delicious. I

1391
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: love that, man, Sha man. I like to watch the show.

1392
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: It sounds good.

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01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: I'm hung right now.

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01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 2: I feel you. I would say, quick time, bout will

1395
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: come right back. I promise we'll get back to Cowboys

1396
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 2: are on the clock. We'll talk about what's going on

1397
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 2: in Dallas. Next where the Fellas. He's Jeff Sports and

1398
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: Anthony Gargatta right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1399
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 3: We're back on the Fellas.

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01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 4: Talking NFC East as we make our way through the

1401
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 4: rosters the National Football League post draft. So we know

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01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 4: your favorite team ever got better during the draft. Of course,

1403
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: ever got the favorite players they wanted for the favorite

1404
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 4: times they could draft them, except maybe the Cowboys. I

1405
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 4: don't know what the Cowboys are doing. They're in the

1406
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 4: middle of, I think a rebuild ish on the fly.

1407
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 4: They let players go this off offseason. They've tried to

1408
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 4: backfill those players in, but the roster right now, Dak

1409
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 4: Prescott is a quarterback. Obviously the running back room, which

1410
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 4: I think is not as important as other positions, but

1411
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 4: you know, you want to have depth of that position.

1412
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 4: You want to have explosive players. You want to have

1413
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 4: guys that can get your yards when you need to

1414
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 4: to close out games. You want to have guys that

1415
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 4: can come out the backfield in the in the screen

1416
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 4: game and make plays for you. Ezekiel Elliott just resigned there,

1417
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 4: Deuce Vaughan is there, Royce Freeman, Rico Dow. I'm not

1418
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 4: saying they had the draft of running back in this

1419
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,959
Speaker 4: in this draft class, but there were guys to be had.

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01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 3: They didn't do it.

1421
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 4: The offensive line we know can be very good, but

1422
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 4: they're going to rely on two rookies, most likely in

1423
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: the middle there. Cooper Bbo play center draft as a

1424
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 4: guard at Kansas State. Tyler Geiden from Oklahoma drafted in

1425
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 4: the first round, picked twenty four, twenty four, twenty four.

1426
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 4: I believe he is a player at Oklahoma, supremely talented.

1427
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 4: A little lot Tyler Smith, who's their left guard right now,

1428
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 4: who was a supremely talented player at a Tulsa. But

1429
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 4: a lot of work on there's there's technique issues, there's

1430
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: a processing it should be see the athletics as I

1431
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 4: I trust the Cowboys who have done a great job

1432
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 4: of putting offensive lineman. Their first run. Offensive line picks

1433
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 4: over the last ten years have been maybe a little

1434
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 4: longer twelve years have been Tyler Smith. All pro left

1435
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 4: guard have been Zach Martin, future Hall of Fame right

1436
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 4: guard have been Travis Frederick who's not there anymore but

1437
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 4: was on his way to potentially being a Hall of

1438
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 4: Fame center before injuries. And then Toron Smith who is

1439
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 4: now the Jets left tackle but will be future Hall

1440
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: of famers. Say they're they are giving grace there wide receiver,

1441
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Jalen Tolbert. It's that offense, a

1442
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 4: super Bowl winning offense. Is that offense that we expect

1443
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 4: to see win a division when you have an Eagles

1444
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 4: team that I think we all agree with some changes

1445
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 4: on the coordinator level is going to be better. Not

1446
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 4: sure we talked about the Commanders already. I think that

1447
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 4: they're sort of on their way with dan Quinn, but

1448
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 4: still have some deficients the offensive line. The Cowboys, to me,

1449
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 4: with that offense, I don't know if they are better

1450
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 4: this season on offense and then defensively. They have incredible

1451
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 4: pieces on defense. We know that with Parsons and Lawrence.

1452
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 4: But the question is do we see regression without dan Quinn.

1453
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 4: There the thing about offense defense the NFL, because offense

1454
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 4: is so tied to your quarterback, you can have coordinator changes,

1455
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 4: and year over year, your offense is typically going to

1456
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 4: be going to be good, right if you have that quarterback.

1457
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 4: If you have that guy who is a franchise type quarterback,

1458
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 4: your offense most years will be a round the same

1459
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 4: efficiency numbers, efficiency levels totally. If you want to use yardage,

1460
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 4: you can use total yardage. Defense fluctuates a year after year.

1461
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 4: We tip we do not see unless you're the maybe

1462
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 4: the Steelers, the Ravens over the years of your defense

1463
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 4: remaining the same year over year. Part of that is

1464
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 4: attrition on defense. Part of that is coordinator changes. Part

1465
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 4: of that is defense can sometimes just just come boiled

1466
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 4: down to have you faced enough quarterbacks that are good

1467
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 4: versus backup quarterbacks versus middle middle of the league average quarterbacks.

1468
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 4: And so the Cowboys defensively a couple of years ago,

1469
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 4: throughout on turnovers last year they were okay. The questions

1470
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 4: are they going to be just as good without Dan

1471
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 4: Quinn as a couple of players get older questions at

1472
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 4: linebacker as well, outside of Parsons who technically as a linebacker,

1473
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 4: I don't know they're they're going to have, you know, Deron.

1474
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 3: Bland intercepting seven passes for touchdowns again this past season.

1475
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 4: So I think there's a legit question marks about what

1476
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 4: the Cowboys can be this year with the with the

1477
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 4: pressure put on them to win. We're back with some

1478
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 4: more Fellas.

1479
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 1: Next, listen to sports all.

1480
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: Right, We're back on the Fellas. Anthony, there, buddy, we

1481
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 3: got you.

1482
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 9: I am here. If I sound like I'm in a team,

1483
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 9: can it's probably because I am.

1484
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 11: You.

1485
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 9: It's amazing the technology. Yeh uh did you see did

1486
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 9: you hear the crackle? Yeah?

1487
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 4: I thought it was my I thought it was my

1488
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 4: like headset sometimes and my phone gets too close to

1489
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 4: like the mic like ale crackle, and I just thought, oh, okay, cool,

1490
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 4: I'll move my fun away from my face. And no,

1491
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 4: it was your entire livelihood just you're just just your

1492
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 4: your livelihood, just just just going out.

1493
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 9: Oh my god. It's the worst feeling, right because as

1494
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 9: you're sitting here, you feel so helpless. First of all,

1495
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 9: I'm the worst when it comes to tech. But we

1496
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 9: have our comras they called them right, and that allows

1497
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 9: us to tap into Fox Sports Radio and you feel

1498
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 9: like you're in the studio. That's the sound quality and

1499
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 9: it's all connected. And then it's the worst and most

1500
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 9: helpless feeling. You you're a crackle and then all of

1501
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 9: a sudden, the thing just dies and I'm frantically trying

1502
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 9: to turn it back on. Anyway, where the fellas just

1503
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 9: words Anthony Gargatum as we comes live from the ti

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01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 9: raq dot com studios tirac dot com. We're gonna help

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Speaker 9: way tire buying should be. And if you just joined us,

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Speaker 9: We've been all over. We've been NBA playoffs, we've been announcers, broadcasters,

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Speaker 9: We've been atfl post draft, rosters and food I love

1510
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Speaker 9: your food stories, man, I gotta tell you that. I

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Speaker 9: just I'm so bummed out that that show never made it,

1512
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 9: and that show would have been great.

1513
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Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately it never saw the light of day. We

1514
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 4: had a lot of fun doing it, I'll tell you that,

1515
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 4: but it never never never happened. I mean, you know,

1516
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 4: you know, the way that the business works, sometimes it

1517
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 4: just doesn't doesn't work out the way you wanted to.

1518
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 4: It was a bummer though, because we had we had

1519
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 4: a lot of fun and filming it and I spent

1520
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 4: you know, I.

1521
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Speaker 3: Spent two weeks in Philly. It was it was fun.

1522
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Speaker 9: I know, it was funny. Sent me a picture and

1523
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 9: it's such a small world. You sent me the picture

1524
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Speaker 9: of where you guys were doing the Chief Steak episode,

1525
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 9: and you were in a parking lot off of Night Street,

1526
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 9: which is the Guinian market. World half my a lot

1527
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Speaker 9: of my relatives are and you were in at a

1528
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 9: buddy of mine's parking lot, the Bruno Bromise. I mean,

1529
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 9: I was, I was cracking up. It's I think I

1530
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 9: had something similar years ago. I created a show called

1531
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 9: International Sportsman, and it was you travel around. Really it's

1532
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 9: the culture of sports because there's such a rich culture

1533
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 9: surrounding sports. And it was everything from the Rucker Park

1534
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 9: Summer League in New York City to the Polio, which

1535
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 9: is an ancient horse race in Siena, you know, and

1536
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 9: like it was all those in Italy. It was all

1537
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 9: those kinds of events. But really what was behind it food,

1538
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 9: you know, the people, the culture of the place. So

1539
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 9: this was early on, like this is like early two thousands,

1540
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 9: and they I went through the whole wrong. We did

1541
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 9: a sizzle and then they were all interested. And then

1542
01:22:56,360 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 9: he decided to go with the Honey Jones, bringing back

1543
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 9: full circle. They wasn't an athlete, the former giant, the

1544
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 9: Hoti jokes, he went off doing it. But something. Yeah,

1545
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 9: that's the.

1546
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 3: B's It's hard.

1547
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 4: It's hard to create shows and end up having them comes.

1548
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 9: It's hard, hey man, that's what you know. The beauty

1549
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 9: of YouTube is the world changed. Man. There's there's an audience.

1550
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 9: There's an audience out there for us. That's it, man. Yeah,

1551
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 9: it's uh if you're just joining us, let's we're talking

1552
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 9: about the NBA. Plus last night Luca was ridiculous, the

1553
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 9: Mavericks able to shut down the Clippers, and then tonight

1554
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 9: out West. This is a great game. I love this series.

1555
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 9: Denver Decendi Champion Nuggets, and the Timberwolves. I think Minnesota

1556
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 9: with their athleticism, the way they match up, I think

1557
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 9: this could be an epic series. I think Minnesota's chance

1558
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 9: to win.

1559
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 4: I think if you were building a team to beat Denver,

1560
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 4: be Minnesota, right because of their length. They're just long

1561
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 4: and they play really good defense. And you look at

1562
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 4: you know, can you know? Can do you have a

1563
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 4: team built to disrupt the shooting ability of like Jamal Murray, Like, yeah, yeah,

1564
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 4: you have. You have players there to do that. Do

1565
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 4: you have enough bodies to throw at Jokic, Yeah, you do.

1566
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be perfect, obviously, he's the best player

1567
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 4: in the world right now, but they have enough bodies

1568
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 4: to throw at him and make it difficult. And then

1569
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards becoming, you know, this mega superstar in this

1570
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 4: postseason adds a scoring element to the Timberwolves that they

1571
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 4: need to take down Denver. It feels like this is

1572
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 4: everything they needed. And I really think this is important.

1573
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 4: So when you're a young basketball team, a young team

1574
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 4: any in any sport, when you make the playoffs for

1575
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 4: basically the first time, right, the first time you're really

1576
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 4: with expectations and and you know, the the idea like

1577
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 4: we need to we need to win.

1578
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: Right, it's hard two to do that.

1579
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:23,600
Speaker 4: It's hard to do that. And the Timberwolves swept the

1580
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 4: Suns like that. Any that's impressive to me, that that,

1581
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 4: knowing that they're the one seed and there's expectations for

1582
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 4: them to go in the postseason and have success, they

1583
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 4: went ahead and swept like that. To me, that that

1584
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,799
Speaker 4: shows growth, growth, right, it shows growth.

1585
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: So remember the ones and the other three? Sorry, yeah, you're.

1586
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 9: Spot on, And remember Phoenix handled them during the regular season, right,

1587
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 9: and then they put the script on them, and I

1588
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 9: just waiter they're playing, and I'm curiously what you said.

1589
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 9: I love Anthony Edwards. I just love that kid.

1590
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 7: Man.

1591
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 9: He's the best. He's so honest, but he's got a

1592
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 9: great swag about him. He's got a tremendous smile. He's

1593
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 9: so good. He's quickly my favorite player. He's just got that.

1594
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 9: I love the kids.

1595
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 4: I think when you we always do this in sports

1596
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 4: where we talk about the next set of superstars. So

1597
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 4: who's taken over after Brady and and and Manning leave

1598
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 4: and all these you know, you know, they kind of

1599
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 4: crup quarterbacks. Now, I think at the NBA point where

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01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, Lebron and Curry are sort of at

1601
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 4: the back end of their career, it's probably not situation

1602
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 4: to win championships. Who's who's that next superstar? It's Indian Edwards, right, like, like,

1603
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 4: who's that next guy who is has the person because

1604
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 4: part of me the superstar is the personality part of it, right,

1605
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 4: Like you can't just you can't just be good and

1606
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 4: be you have to have the personality. And he obviously,

1607
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 4: obviously he was in that movie that you you were

1608
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 4: you know you helped you know with with like he was.

1609
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 4: He obviously has a giant personality. He plays the game

1610
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 4: with just a lot of it's a lot of it looks,

1611
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 4: he looks like he's having fun playing basketball, and all

1612
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 4: those reasons I think make it make him maybe as

1613
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 4: like the breakout superstar because look, the networks did not

1614
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 4: feature in Minnesota a lot on TV this year, right,

1615
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 4: there's still the Lakers and Warriors heavy, and it's just

1616
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 4: he's gonna be a breakout star of this postseason nationally.

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01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 9: Yep, Now you're you're spot on I mean you look

1618
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 9: at the at the next ones. I mean, obviously Luke

1619
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 9: is established that you watch him play and he's so ridiculous,

1620
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 9: like you watch like I love watching Lucan Dotches play.

1621
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 9: He's got sucked a flair. He made a pass last night,

1622
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 9: I love you solid. He hits Kyrie and it was

1623
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 9: mahomesh dude, it was he Kyrie catches it in stride

1624
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 9: and literally goes right off to lay it in. It

1625
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 9: was just that it was a full court, just beautiful

1626
01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 9: pass I had on the break.

1627
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1628
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 4: Look some of these guys their their passing ability is

1629
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean you have you have Daunts and Luca,

1630
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 4: I mean and uh and Yoka's going for you know,

1631
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 4: thirty ten and it's insane thirty like thirty ten and ten.

1632
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 4: These guys, it's it's wild, man, they can It's true.

1633
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 9: It's incredible.

1634
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 11: Uh.

1635
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 9: We'll also have a game seven between Cleveland and Orlando,

1636
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 9: and that turned out to be a really interesting series.

1637
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,879
Speaker 9: Todt you last night because it was, you know, between

1638
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,600
Speaker 9: Cleveland and Orlando and how it's all playing out. It's

1639
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 9: been a lot of fun.

1640
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 4: I think Cleveland, we agree Cleveland's gonna end up winning

1641
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 4: Game seven home, right, I mean, this series has surely

1642
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 4: been one of those where the up and down nature.

1643
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:18,839
Speaker 4: It's just the home team has been winning. Like Orlando

1644
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 4: scores infinitely more points at home than they have on

1645
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 4: the road part.

1646
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 3: And so I just.

1647
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 4: Maybe Cleveland because of the moment. I don't think it's

1648
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 4: gonna be this is an issue, but possibly the moment's

1649
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 4: its gonna be too much in Game seven. But before

1650
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 4: look so far in this series, Orlando scored in Cleveland, right,

1651
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 4: eighty three, eighty six and one oh three at home

1652
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 4: one twenty one, one twelve, one oh three. So like

1653
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 4: it's just it's just a big difference, and we're sitting

1654
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 4: to like the role players, like the Garland he had

1655
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 4: what sixteen points, seventeen points in the first quarter in

1656
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 4: Game five, I had I met the over, I had

1657
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 4: over sixteen and a half points. He hit it in

1658
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 4: the first quarter. I was like, I was like, I

1659
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 4: was like, oh, all.

1660
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 3: Right, buddy, there you go.

1661
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:04,799
Speaker 4: It's for helping me out.

1662
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1663
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 4: So I think the home team wins this game. Is

1664
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 4: there a team out east though that can give the

1665
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 4: Celtics or Rugs. I think we agree that the Wolves

1666
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 4: can give, and I think Dallas maybe a little bit

1667
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 4: if they advance to the West Cons finals can give

1668
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:25,719
Speaker 4: a nugget to run. It does feel like out East though,

1669
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 4: no one's gonna beat Boston.

1670
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 9: I can't see it. I mean, you know, I don't

1671
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 9: think Cleveland's very good. I don't think they're good enough

1672
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 9: to stop that train. And then you know the Nicks.

1673
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 9: Nicks can bloody them. I just don't think they can

1674
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 9: beat them. Right, And I look like I'm a big

1675
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 9: believer and I might get senses you will too. In

1676
01:30:55,320 --> 01:31:00,799
Speaker 9: styles make fights right. The matchups like to me, the

1677
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 9: Pacers are a hot like the Teltics are a horrible

1678
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,959
Speaker 9: matchup for Indiana. I think they could beat the Knicks.

1679
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 9: But the Knicks will play Boston better than Indiana will

1680
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,960
Speaker 9: play better because I just think they would exploit the

1681
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 9: hell out of the pace as Boston. Indiana has a

1682
01:31:21,439 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 9: shot against New York because we talked about the scoring

1683
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 9: prowess earlier in the show. The Knicks can bloody Boston.

1684
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,599
Speaker 9: I don't think they can beat them, but I think

1685
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 9: they could scare them a little bit.

1686
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 4: That makes sense, Yes, I think that's a good way

1687
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,839
Speaker 4: to put it. You can I mean when you physical

1688
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 4: any team you're I think you always have a chance

1689
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 4: to win, right when you can be physical and get in,

1690
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 4: you know, get in, get in someone's face and make

1691
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 4: it uncomfortable for them. But Boston has just built their

1692
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 4: team with too many scoring options. It does feel like, right,

1693
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 4: this is too many ways to for them to win.

1694
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 4: It's just too many ways for.

1695
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 3: Them to do that.

1696
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean when you look at what kind of

1697
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 9: how they're built, especially you know once to get Perzingis back,

1698
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,600
Speaker 9: because Persingis has been such a great fit for them,

1699
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 9: you know, between Canaan and Brown. But the other thing,

1700
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 9: that Derek White pick up was such a great move

1701
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 9: by Celtics. I mean, he's a hell of a ballplayer.

1702
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 9: He does so many good at dangels on the floor.

1703
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 9: He could shoot it, he could facilitate. He's just a

1704
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 9: he's a good ballplayer. But they fit in really well.

1705
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 9: And you get your Holiday who does a little bit

1706
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 9: of everything, and it plays good defense. It's perfect. That

1707
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,760
Speaker 9: team just fits together.

1708
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 4: They really do. And you mentioned, you know White the

1709
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 4: last two games. I mean, you know, I gambled. I

1710
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 4: made no bones about it. I stated him in game

1711
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 4: in game five, I was like you know, look, he

1712
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 4: hit seven threes or whatever, then say number was in

1713
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 4: Game four, I'm gonna go under three and a half

1714
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 4: three pointers in Game five and he hit three in

1715
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 4: the first quarter and I was like, oh boy, this

1716
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 4: is done. And then he I don't think he hit

1717
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 4: next one to the fourth quarter, but and that was

1718
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 4: It's a bad feeling. That's a fun feeling when when

1719
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 4: when you win away your immediately it's a bad feeling

1720
01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 4: when you're sitting there like, oh boy, this is this

1721
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 4: is just not gonna go well. But again, I mean

1722
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 4: the different ways to score because Tatum has not been

1723
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 4: He wasn't great in the final two games that series.

1724
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:26,719
Speaker 3: It didn't matter.

1725
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 4: It didn't matter at all, not the heat or not

1726
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 4: a team right now that I think is you know,

1727
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 4: is playing the best basketball because the injuries. But I

1728
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 4: mean Tatum had only sixteen points in Game five and

1729
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 4: that game was at one point they're by over thirty. Yeah,

1730
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 4: different ways to different ways to win. You need different

1731
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 4: ways to win the postseason. And Boston has that.

1732
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they truly do. Man, Yeah it should be.

1733
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 9: The West is infinitely more interesting just because you're right, like,

1734
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 9: you know, Denver is the best team. But we both

1735
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 9: think so that can take this one deep and who knows,

1736
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 9: maybe shock the world. And Dallas Bill they're they have

1737
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 9: such good role players and PJ. Washington was such a

1738
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 9: good pick up for them. Yeah, because you can step

1739
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 9: out and can hit it three, can rebound and blot

1740
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 9: some shots. He's gritty, he's just and he fits. He

1741
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,879
Speaker 9: fits well because he could spot up. He's a stretch

1742
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 9: for and easy he get spot with all that between

1743
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 9: between Luca and Kyrie, there's all that space that comes

1744
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 9: on the floor.

1745
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and having again the ability to score and whatnot.

1746
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 4: I mean, how about that shot last night by uh

1747
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,600
Speaker 4: by Kyrie that stepped back three on the corner.

1748
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 3: And incredible.

1749
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 9: Yeah. There there they are. They're a They're a blast

1750
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 9: there really are. They're a blast to watch. Uh So

1751
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 9: we got to get back to are n d A

1752
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 9: it's Derby are our NFL talk? And of course it's

1753
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 9: Derby Day. So a little bit later on we're gonna

1754
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 9: have Dick Girardi, who is a longtime horse racing journalist.

1755
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 9: He's been covering the Derby forever, so he'll kind of

1756
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 9: break that down for us. We're going to get into

1757
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 9: also you'll love our big brain. We have a weekly

1758
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 9: guess to the sports gambling who's really, really, really good.

1759
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 9: He's a prop guy, so you'll you'll love. Yeah. So

1760
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 9: we'll talk to the big brain Brad coming up later

1761
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 9: in the next hour, and then I do want to go.

1762
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 9: I got to ask you this. I'm to think about

1763
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 9: this during a break. Think about your favorite because you

1764
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 9: Brooke loving the broadcast. That's which I do. So we

1765
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 9: share this. Give me your favorite football guys. And by

1766
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 9: the way, do you think Brady will the I'm a

1767
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 9: great broadcaster. I'm curious to what you think about that.

1768
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 9: So we'll dive into all that stuff and are including

1769
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 9: our foray around the league where the fellas. He's Jeff Schwartz,

1770
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 9: I'm Anthony Gargana right here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

1771
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 9: welcome back, fellas by from the tire Rap dot Com studios.

1772
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:33,719
Speaker 9: Jeff Sports, I'm Anthony Gargano. As uh we hang out

1773
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 9: on Derby Day. Let's talk a little broadcaster for a second,

1774
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:41,600
Speaker 9: because I love the conversation you Jeff, you started it.

1775
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 9: We're you uh were waxing poetically about the derby and

1776
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 9: the call and the derby and you were like, I

1777
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 9: love you know you will grow up with Vin Scully.

1778
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:57,680
Speaker 9: Ye talk about that stuff. Uh, can Tom Brady be

1779
01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 9: a good broadcaster?

1780
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:05,879
Speaker 4: I think that Tom whatever Tom Brady does, he will

1781
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 4: be good at because he will put everything that he

1782
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 4: has into being good at it. Like, I think he's

1783
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:16,839
Speaker 4: just so obsessive about all those things that I can't

1784
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:22,720
Speaker 4: imagine that he is gonna accept himself to be bad

1785
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 4: at something?

1786
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 3: Now?

1787
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 4: Is it gonna be from the beginning easy?

1788
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:29,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. Calling games is.

1789
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 4: Much harder than you think when I've done a couple

1790
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 4: of times, and it's just it's just harder than you think.

1791
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 4: But I don't ever expect him to be bad at something.

1792
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 3: I really don't.

1793
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 9: You know. He's like, I agree with you, Like, he'll

1794
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 9: never be bad. And he's been working reports. Yeah, he

1795
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 9: thought he's doing mock games the whole thing. One of

1796
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 9: the things though it's stuff you can't teach. And does

1797
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 9: he have the charisma to do it? Like he's got

1798
01:37:57,320 --> 01:38:01,679
Speaker 9: the pedigree, he's got the intelligence, right, I mean, he's

1799
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:06,960
Speaker 9: got all that and you know, overwhelmingly, but does he

1800
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 9: have the charisma because there's such a thing about like

1801
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 9: to become that great, like the ultimate one that we

1802
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 9: all grew up with, you know, was madd Right, he

1803
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:22,360
Speaker 9: had no one had charisma like Madden, which kind of

1804
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 9: makes him the goat of all those you know analysts.

1805
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 4: I don't know Tom Brady personally, never met him. I

1806
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 4: think he does. I think one sort of. I think

1807
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 4: when you play with the Patriots, you could zapped of

1808
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 4: any of your own personality, Like have you seen Bill

1809
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 4: Belichick in any of these like like all of a sudden,

1810
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 4: he's mister personality. And I think I feel like in

1811
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 4: a way, Tom Brady is going to be that when

1812
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 4: he gets an opportunity to be more of himself, will

1813
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:03,559
Speaker 4: be more, you know, mister personality. And so I I

1814
01:39:03,680 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 4: think he will be able to deliver on that. And

1815
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 4: your point about you know practice, He's been practicing like

1816
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 4: he's been preparing for this. And again I don't see

1817
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 4: Tom Brady being a guy that goes into anything unprepared,

1818
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 4: and I think part of that preparation will probably be

1819
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 4: making sure that his personality is what you need to

1820
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 4: be to be successful at this job.

1821
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. How is I also think that

1822
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 9: we've kind of reached that period of change where you know,

1823
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 9: a lot of the goats are going and you know,

1824
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 9: it's it's kind of a unique thing. Like you know,

1825
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 9: even from the play by play side, we talked about

1826
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:55,959
Speaker 9: brn one Quist, you know, Jim Nance, Like the tournament

1827
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 9: was not the same without Nance.

1828
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm presu it's certainly it wasn't.

1829
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 4: But we we arguing that point where you know, some

1830
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 4: of the broadcasters are phasing out and young guys have

1831
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 4: to come in and fill that role. And you know,

1832
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 4: there are there are young broadcasters on the play by

1833
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 4: the place side that we're getting to, you know, you

1834
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 4: know Iron Eagle right, Like we're starting to get some

1835
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 4: of these you know, these young broadcasters. But that's that's

1836
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 4: part of you know, Joe Davis and Burke Hardt and

1837
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 4: some of these guys. I mean, that's it. Look, it

1838
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 4: just takes it takes reps, you know this, It just

1839
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,639
Speaker 4: takes a lot of reps in practice and getting those

1840
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 4: big time moments. And as some of the other guys

1841
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 4: start to fade out of their careers, we will find

1842
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 4: ourselves like our next vern lun quiest I don't know

1843
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 4: who that is right now, you know that that's.

1844
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 9: The joy of your point, Like, you know, like and

1845
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 9: it's funny because you're a spot on one. It's basically

1846
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 9: just about time. Right. But you know that Kevin Burkhark,

1847
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 9: he's terrific, right, great what he does. I'm a big

1848
01:40:57,439 --> 01:41:00,160
Speaker 9: Gus Johnson fan. I think Gus makes it, make the

1849
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 9: game fantastic. You know, I think as you do it

1850
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 9: over time, people, you know, the more you know reps

1851
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:14,200
Speaker 9: that you talked about, the more you become ingrained in

1852
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 9: people's habits, right like, ah, oh cool, yeah, you know

1853
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 9: it's Kevin Burkhart. Oh yeah, he's doing that. He's doing

1854
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 9: the NFC Championship game, like you could see it, and

1855
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 9: it just you know, you just need time, like because

1856
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,599
Speaker 9: you need to look back nostaltically like we all were

1857
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 9: able to look back as Oh like that that was

1858
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,600
Speaker 9: the voice of my youth. You're a little younger, but

1859
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 9: you know, like that stuff like those when you bring

1860
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 9: up at Scully, he was the voice of a lot

1861
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 9: of people's youth, and so you could draw upon that.

1862
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 4: You said something pretty interesting about what we were talking

1863
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 4: about announcers earlier, and you said when you mentioned Vern Linquist,

1864
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 4: you mentioned all the big moments that he's called and

1865
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 4: these younger guys haven't had an opportunity yet because it

1866
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 4: hasn't been their time. And so I think we're going

1867
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 4: to get to a point when we do get to

1868
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 4: see some of these broadcasters that that will get those

1869
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 4: moments and you'll be able to say, Okay, like this

1870
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 4: is the the Kevin Burkhart moment, you know, like we

1871
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:15,679
Speaker 4: just haven't had that opportunity yet because those guys haven't

1872
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:19,200
Speaker 4: been they haven't gotten that opportunity yet.

1873
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 9: Yeah. No, it's a good point. Like I'm a huge

1874
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 9: Joe Buck fan. I love Joe. I think Joe is

1875
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 9: it because you know what, he's great, He's great at baseball.

1876
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 9: Like I always liked the play by play guy who

1877
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 9: knew all sports right like, to be like al Michaels right,

1878
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 9: al knew every sport right like. And that one to

1879
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:48,120
Speaker 9: me was something that because I always thought, like, I

1880
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 9: want you to be as into it as I am

1881
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 9: because I'm watching right, I'm not getting paid, I'm watching

1882
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 9: it because of sheer passion, and I want you to

1883
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 9: match the and then I want you to make it

1884
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 9: feel big. And I want you to know all sports

1885
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 9: because you know most of us. You know, if you're

1886
01:43:09,040 --> 01:43:12,240
Speaker 9: a sportsman, you're not just a singular sports fan.

1887
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 4: I think that these broadcasters, because they're in the limelight,

1888
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 4: get way too much grief. Like to me, Buck is

1889
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 4: really good. I don't know why people don't like him.

1890
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 4: I think it's just I think people are just hating.

1891
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,479
Speaker 4: It's like that simple because I think some of these

1892
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 4: guys man are really good and it and we people

1893
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 4: just want to hate on them because it's fun to hate.

1894
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:41,360
Speaker 4: I don't I don't understand. And maybe I'm just sticking

1895
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:43,799
Speaker 4: up for people in my in our in our industry, Anthony,

1896
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 4: but I don't understand the hate that some of these

1897
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 4: broadcasters get.

1898
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 3: It no sense.

1899
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:51,680
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what it is. And I've had this

1900
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,599
Speaker 9: discuss with these guys and you're spot on them. By

1901
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 9: the way, they are great. I think it's less about

1902
01:43:58,880 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 9: pure hate and more about when the greatness of their

1903
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 9: of how they do their job right. So if you

1904
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 9: can call it equally down the middle, right, well we

1905
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 9: it is. You want to talk about bias, right, Like,

1906
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 9: just look at our political system, right, like you know

1907
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 9: if you're if you're down the middle, you're bad, right,

1908
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:30,040
Speaker 9: Like that's how people view it. And those guys like

1909
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 9: Joe Buck holds a game. It's completely impartial, right, it's

1910
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:37,599
Speaker 9: completely down the middle. So if you're if you're a

1911
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 9: fan of your team's playing the game, and you're used

1912
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 9: to your hometown announcers, you're thinking that Joe Buck to hater,

1913
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 9: right because he's called down the middle. It sounds completely

1914
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,560
Speaker 9: foreign to what you're used to from a local standpoint.

1915
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 3: That's that's surely a fair assessment.

1916
01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 4: I do find it when they're like, you know, like

1917
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 4: when they're like, this your favor I'm like, are they

1918
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:05,639
Speaker 4: favoring one team?

1919
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 3: I don't think they care?

1920
01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 9: Now, I don't think.

1921
01:45:07,680 --> 01:45:10,000
Speaker 4: They care if the Niners are chief win like who

1922
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 4: they're not favorite anybody?

1923
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 3: They don't care.

1924
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 4: And I think sometimes too, like you know, Akman goes

1925
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,400
Speaker 4: out of his way to be more harsh about the Cowboys,

1926
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,600
Speaker 4: and he has to be because he doesn't want it

1927
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 4: to make it seem like Herbshire does such as Ohio State.

1928
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 4: I doesn't want to make it seem like he's like

1929
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 4: rooting for a team or not.

1930
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, well you do the show with Chris, you

1931
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 9: do the podcast with Chris, and yes, like I've always

1932
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:41,640
Speaker 9: my favorite sports television show. There was two. It was

1933
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 9: Game Day and and uh the t A t Ernie Charles.

1934
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's that shows the best.

1935
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, like like those two shows are the greatest sports television.

1936
01:45:55,680 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 9: Like I Coyle's Game Day it is so oh good,

1937
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 9: like just so And I thought, you know, Herbie Salar,

1938
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 9: like those guys are tremendous acts like this, they're great

1939
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,600
Speaker 9: at calling games. But you're right, like, and I'm a

1940
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 9: big heart streak kit let me ask you this. I

1941
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 9: love Herbie, but the Thursday night broadcast this sounded this

1942
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 9: sounds flat to me.

1943
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:27,800
Speaker 4: It does sound flat. And also the the mics don't

1944
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 4: pick up field noise terribly. Well, it's like a weird

1945
01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:35,200
Speaker 4: it's a very odd sometimes situation. Again, there's just it's

1946
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 4: a it's a lot to call college football basically all

1947
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 4: week and then call them one NFL game. You mentioned,

1948
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 4: you know how Buck does baseball and and and basketball

1949
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,560
Speaker 4: and football. It's just they're different sports, you know, a

1950
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 4: different pace of a different preparation. I think it's just

1951
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 4: hard to do both the NFL on Thursday night and

1952
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 4: then essentially the rest of the week do college football.

1953
01:46:58,400 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 4: I think it's just a tough job.

1954
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, but he's like, you know, I mean, he's great

1955
01:47:04,920 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 9: like his is extremely likable. The analysis is you know,

1956
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 9: you know, terrific. I mean I always I think he

1957
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 9: comes at it. He like hills these things, you know,

1958
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 9: which is what it does. It's the honest thing. You know,

1959
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,559
Speaker 9: maybe it is, maybe it's just it's hard. But you're

1960
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:31,120
Speaker 9: also right about the the mic piece. Like the college

1961
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 9: game sometimes listen, you know, we're a NFL stands to

1962
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:38,200
Speaker 9: the to the end degree, but you know, and you

1963
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:42,759
Speaker 9: played it so obviously, but there's something about the college

1964
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 9: game where it feels like there's a little more life at.

1965
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:50,839
Speaker 1: Times, well for him or just in general in general.

1966
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 4: Well, it's a different because it's a different type of atmosphere,

1967
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 4: like the there's not many NFL stadiums, actually, Philly is

1968
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 4: one of them that you feel very collegiate in the stadium. Yeah,

1969
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 4: and it feels that way in It feels that way

1970
01:48:11,080 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 4: in Philly, and I think that that sort of affects

1971
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 4: the way that we feel the game is on television.

1972
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, yeah, Like it felt that way in Detroit

1973
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 9: this year, right, like when you would see games from

1974
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:37,800
Speaker 9: the Dome, like their passion team, it felt collegiate, right,

1975
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 9: It felt like, you know, you're a stone's throw from

1976
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 9: the Big House, like it had that kind of vibe

1977
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 9: to it. I think you're right. Some stadiums though, aren't

1978
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 9: just so sleepy, right, and it just had that air

1979
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:53,640
Speaker 9: to it.

1980
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just I mean not to look.

1981
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 4: I think MetLife Stadium feels like that sometimes, where it's

1982
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,639
Speaker 4: just like it's just.

1983
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:06,559
Speaker 3: It's just sleepy, man, just just sort.

1984
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 4: Of just sort of sometimes it's the way stams are built.

1985
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:12,120
Speaker 4: It's it's part of it. Is like the college stadiums

1986
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 4: are very uniquely built, and they're built for like maximum noise.

1987
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 4: NFL stadiums are built a lot of times for multipurpose,

1988
01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,680
Speaker 4: like for different res and I think that makes a

1989
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 4: big difference in how the atmosphere of the stadium's very

1990
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 4: just very a lot because of.

1991
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 9: That, well you know, and also I mean you're college

1992
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,839
Speaker 9: stadiums are just bigger, right, Like they're huge.

1993
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:45,479
Speaker 12: You know, you're talking Happy Valley one hundred and ten thousand, right,

1994
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:52,600
Speaker 12: You're Dead Harbor, I Horsehoe, like you're talking about you know, kneelands,

1995
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 12: like these places, these mythical structures that hold so many

1996
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:01,639
Speaker 12: people and you so you're right, like like you watch

1997
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 12: the colors and pageantry from SCC. You just go, that's football, right,

1998
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:11,120
Speaker 12: like that's SEC football, that's filled with energy.

1999
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 4: There's there's also a tribalism about college sports for whatever reason,

2000
01:50:18,040 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 4: that we don't quite get in professional sports, except I

2001
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,639
Speaker 4: would say there are some cities that feel that way.

2002
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 4: You know, the Northeast does not have college sports in

2003
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 4: the way the South does, So there's some tribalism I

2004
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 4: think with Philly fans and New York fans and Washington

2005
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 4: fans that you don't. But but there's like a connection

2006
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 4: to your college that is unique to that sport, where

2007
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 4: there's just it doesn't feel that same connection I think

2008
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 4: in pro sports, and maybe because of for agency, which

2009
01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 4: is crazy because college sports now is is pro is agent.

2010
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 4: It's transfer portal like it's feeling, and I know it

2011
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 4: turns off people, but it feels way more like pro

2012
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,679
Speaker 4: sports now then college sports.

2013
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 9: I got news for it, dude, youth sports, it's starting

2014
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 9: to feel like pro spoot. I had a conversations. I

2015
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 9: had two boys eleven and fourteen, and you know we're

2016
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:18,720
Speaker 9: a big sports family obviously, right, So they played my

2017
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 9: little one place. They both played football, my little one play.

2018
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,759
Speaker 9: They both played basketball, and my little one play travel baseball,

2019
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 9: so we recruit something workouts or tournaments or whatever. And

2020
01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 9: I was having a conversation with one of the coaches

2021
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:40,240
Speaker 9: and we were talking about the professionalization of youth sports.

2022
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 9: Like east kids walk around, they play in these amazing facilities,

2023
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,160
Speaker 9: they have the best equipment, and your children. I mean,

2024
01:51:48,200 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 9: it's it's fascinating. So yeah, now you have nil all

2025
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:57,799
Speaker 9: over college football and college sports. You know, it's dripping

2026
01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 9: down to high school and like you see these they're

2027
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 9: you know, they're walking around like pro athletes and they're

2028
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 9: in seventh grade.

2029
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 3: Don't get me started on you sports buddy.

2030
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 4: I I it's not good. I look obviously I was

2031
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 4: blessed with this body. So like you know, it's someway

2032
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 4: making it to the NFL, Major League baseball basketball is

2033
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:26,719
Speaker 4: more about genetics than anything else.

2034
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 9: Like wait, wit hold the thought. Okay, well, because you've

2035
01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 9: got to take a time out because Mighty Mark's going

2036
01:52:33,400 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 9: to kill me just text me because of our issues

2037
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 9: with the phone. So let's take a time out. We'll

2038
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 9: come right back. I'm dying here because I'm a big

2039
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 9: proponent of it. So I want to talk to you

2040
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:47,839
Speaker 9: about this with The Fellas, Jeff Schwartz, I'm Anthony Gargett.

2041
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 9: I'll hang it out right here. Fox Sports Radio.

2042
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 4: Welcome back in We are the Fellas live from the

2043
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 4: tire Raq dot com studios. All right, Anthony, you sports

2044
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 4: time to time to give our scorching hot takes about it.

2045
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:05,640
Speaker 3: How old are your kids?

2046
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 9: So? My mine are eleven and fourteen?

2047
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 3: Okay, all right?

2048
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 9: They both play football, they both play basketball, and they

2049
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 9: and the little one plays travel baseball. O.

2050
01:53:19,560 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 4: Good, So my kids are nine and a half and

2051
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:27,920
Speaker 4: seven and a half. Our baseball little league is so intense.

2052
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 4: I'm like you, guys. I'm like you, guys, realize, like,

2053
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 4: no offense to you, but you're you're five eights. Your

2054
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 4: kid is not going to play major League baseball. It is.

2055
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 4: And of course I'm being a I get it. I

2056
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:47,799
Speaker 4: get it, But dude, the intensity is some of these parents,

2057
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,519
Speaker 4: I'm like, and I understand college expensive, do not get

2058
01:53:50,560 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 4: I get it. It's expensive for me. I don't want

2059
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 4: to I don't want to do I don't want to

2060
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 4: pay for it either, but I'm gonna have to probably.

2061
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 4: But it's funny because like you can you can watch

2062
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 4: like my kids. Obviously, I have the you know, the

2063
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 4: you know, having played professional sports, I can see like, okay,

2064
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 4: you know, my daughter is is just supremely gifted.

2065
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:12,160
Speaker 3: Like she just is.

2066
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 4: I joke with my wife all the time, like you

2067
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 4: better get ready to go to Connecticut to watch her

2068
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 4: play college basketball, like you you better like the cold. Thankfully,

2069
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 4: South Carolina down the street is good. Now hopefully she

2070
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 4: goes South Carolina. But like she's supremely talented. And you know,

2071
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 4: my son is the best kidd He tries his butt off,

2072
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 4: but you know, it takes them a little bit longer

2073
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 4: to get things. But some of these parents, man, it

2074
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 4: is it's a lot. I might might take a deep breath,

2075
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:41,600
Speaker 4: Take a deep breath. You don't have to play, you know,

2076
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 4: eighteen hours of travel ball baseball a week. It's a

2077
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:46,840
Speaker 4: it's a lot, man. I don't the travel baseball thing.

2078
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how you do it. It's a parent.

2079
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 9: It is a lot, dude, it's shame, it's it's list.

2080
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 9: You know, obviously been around sports my whole life, and

2081
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 9: like I there's no delusions, you know. To me, it's

2082
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 9: about keeping kids on a path, right, Like I think

2083
01:55:09,640 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 9: sports is important because like, let's take first things. First,

2084
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 9: let's just get your prep to play in high school.

2085
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 9: Because if you're playing high school, right, you've learned how

2086
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 9: to budget your time between sports and schoolwork. It'll help

2087
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 9: you get into college. Right. You may not play in college,

2088
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 9: but you can. And then if you know, if you

2089
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 9: are work hard enough, maybe there's an opportunity depending on

2090
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 9: you know, the school and the level of play. Like

2091
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 9: you know, we got we approach him from the grounded standpoint,

2092
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 9: but I think it's necessary because of distractions. And you know,

2093
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:55,160
Speaker 9: obviously between video games you got for big drugs and

2094
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,680
Speaker 9: everything else. Like the more that they're practicing and worry

2095
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:03,520
Speaker 9: about their body and and playing, I just think that's healthy. Like,

2096
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:08,200
Speaker 9: I think that's good. So you're right, like people are insane,

2097
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 9: and you know, the cost is ridiculous. Like my kid,

2098
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 9: I dude, we just had this whole conversation. So he

2099
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 9: hits his first My Masimo is eleven, right, he plays

2100
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:26,560
Speaker 9: eleven year and last weekend he hit his first like

2101
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:30,760
Speaker 9: legit home run and he actually he actually went yard

2102
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 9: twice like and they were bombs. Like I was like wow,

2103
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 9: So like he was like fired up. He was on

2104
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,920
Speaker 9: cloud nine. And then you know, Sunday night, he's talking

2105
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,360
Speaker 9: about it, and he's like, Daddy, I wanted to hype

2106
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 9: fire back because a lot of the kids.

2107
01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:48,360
Speaker 7: You know it.

2108
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 9: You know it now? Now, what am I gonna tell

2109
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 9: the kid? Right? Like? I gotta get it for him

2110
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 9: because I did a little figure where we signed the

2111
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:01,920
Speaker 9: contract and he's got to work and he's gonna do

2112
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 9: some chorice.

2113
01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 3: That's fair.

2114
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, but like you know, all my buddies

2115
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 9: and like he's got the bug. So I want to

2116
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 9: make sure that the bug is there, right, Like I

2117
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:16,880
Speaker 9: want to make sure that I stoked the fire that

2118
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 9: he loves it.

2119
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2120
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 4: Look, I think sports are great for character building, like

2121
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 4: the the idea of to me, you learn a lot

2122
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 4: about yourself and you grow as a person through failures.

2123
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 4: Everything is great when everything's you know, your life is

2124
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 4: great when it all goes well. But sports, to me,

2125
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 4: builds that character. You're gonna fail in sports, right, how

2126
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 4: do you overcome your fail especially in baseball? I mean, gus,

2127
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 4: you fail in baseball. But just like so, I think

2128
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 4: the sports are I think all kids are play no

2129
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 4: matter what your level is. I think that that that

2130
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 4: part of the sports is overcoming adversity is great, but

2131
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 4: you're right, the cost of getting your kid to learn

2132
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 4: those lessons can be expensive. But man, kids, kids, they

2133
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 4: you put that new bat in their hands, Man turn

2134
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 4: to Berry bonds like they like they they are. My

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Speaker 4: son got a new bat this year. Is his aunt

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Speaker 4: bought him one, and like he is so excited to

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Speaker 4: have that nice bat. I did not buy him a

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Speaker 4: nice bat. I was like, buddy, like you got you

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01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 4: gotta hit the ball a little bit for me to

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Speaker 4: buy you that nice bat. And then and our cousin,

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Speaker 4: our aunt got it for him and he was so

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Speaker 4: cat x at four hund bat I was.

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Speaker 9: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was like, wow, I mean four for bat.

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Speaker 4: I know I should. We should get in the bat

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Speaker 4: manufacturer business, which is just start. It's one of those

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Speaker 4: businesses too, where like you need a new bat next

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Speaker 4: year and the year after that, the year after that,

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Speaker 4: like shoes.

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Speaker 9: You grow I mean, you know, it's unbelievable you grow

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Speaker 9: out of that.

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Speaker 4: Antie were back on the Fellas in a few minutes

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Speaker 4: The Kentucky Derby is later today, an event that we

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Speaker 4: all like to watch. We're joined now by Dick Girardi,

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Speaker 4: a veteran horse racing journalist.

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Speaker 3: OK, how you're doing.

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Speaker 9: I'm great. What's the happening?

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Speaker 11: What's up?

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01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:51,400
Speaker 9: So my uh my, my homwreck, my comrade jocked out,

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Speaker 9: So I'm on there.

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Speaker 7: I heard you're good.

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Speaker 9: Well, I know you're good. I want you to tell

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Speaker 9: Jeff what number Kentucky Derby. This is for you. And

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Speaker 9: before we get into you assessing the race. I love

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Speaker 9: the way you write about it, you talk about it.

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Speaker 9: It's just the culture of it. Can you dive into

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Speaker 9: that for Jeff?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely so. I've been to thirty four thirty one for

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Speaker 7: the Philadelphia Daily News. I covered everyone from nineteen eighty

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Speaker 7: seven to twenty seventeen. Now this is actually Derby one

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Speaker 7: fifty and it's the longest continuous running sporting event in

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Speaker 7: the country. And if you think about it. It started

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Speaker 7: ten years after the Civil War ended and has been

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Speaker 7: going ever since, so that I should tell you how

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Speaker 7: long this thing has been around.

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Speaker 9: Wow. Wow, And it's a scene.

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Speaker 11: And what's cool.

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02:00:52,200 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 7: About it, guys, is that even at Derby one fifty,

2187
02:00:57,640 --> 02:01:01,280
Speaker 7: this event is probably more popular than it's ever been.

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02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 7: They can't build enough buildings and Churchill down to keep

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Speaker 7: people out of there. I mean, it doesn't matter how

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Speaker 7: much it costs people.

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Speaker 9: Will pay to get into the place.

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Speaker 7: It's actually astonishing how much funny it costs that nobody

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02:01:17,320 --> 02:01:20,040
Speaker 7: seems to care. They spent two hundred million this year

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02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,600
Speaker 7: renovating a paddock where the horses are saddled. It's like

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Speaker 7: a stadium for the horses and the people around it.

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Speaker 7: It's just a wild scene. But everybody needs to go

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Speaker 7: at least once. I've been there thirty four times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've not been once. I need to make my

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Speaker 4: way over there. Fierceness is the favorite running out of

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Speaker 4: post seventeen. We see a lot of horses, you know,

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Speaker 4: have trouble coming from from that far away. What do

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Speaker 4: you see the issues for that horse today?

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Speaker 7: As a favorite, Yeah, I actually like the post position.

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02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 7: I like the fact that he's outside because he has

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02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 7: early speed. If he was inside where all the traffic is,

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Speaker 7: there's a potential for issues if he doesn't particularly well.

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02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 7: But from out there, I think he should be fine.

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Speaker 9: It's interesting he's actually going to be in post sixteen.

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Speaker 7: Now he's going to be number seventeen, but there was

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Speaker 7: a scratch of number nine, so everybody moves in a

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Speaker 7: one ors it's number twenty one is actually gonna be

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Speaker 7: a post twenty. But look, he's if when you're watching

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Speaker 7: the race, when they hit the wire the first time,

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Speaker 7: which is a quarter mile into the race, or if

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02:02:22,360 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 7: that twenty three seconds or so, if he is near

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Speaker 7: the front or in front fierceness, you could go to

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Speaker 7: the whip. You could just go cast your ticket because

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Speaker 7: he's not getting it beat. His whole thing is a

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Speaker 7: fat Just getting out of the gate and being in

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Speaker 7: good substiis he's probably gonna be like five to two.

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Speaker 9: Three to one.

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Speaker 7: That's what he is in the early betting. And that's

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02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 7: a really good bet because people are going to say,

2224
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Speaker 7: at his twenty horses, but you know, if the horse

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02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 7: is fast, there's not twenty horses here. You're out there

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Speaker 7: with like two or three horses, you all, they got

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Speaker 7: to beat a couple of them. So yeah, I really

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Speaker 7: like fierceness. I think he's going to be a good price,

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02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 7: and again he could if he doesn't have any problems

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Speaker 7: out of the gate, then I don't think he's gonna

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02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 7: get Meut, how about the weather factor?

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Speaker 9: What does it look like? And then how do you

2233
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 9: how do you as? I love how your mind works

2234
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 9: with these things because you try to and we do

2235
02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 9: this with basketball, Jeff, so Dick and I will try

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02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:21,320
Speaker 9: to come up with the gain script right, like the

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02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:24,360
Speaker 9: like how the flow will go the games that it's

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02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:28,680
Speaker 9: the strategy off. So I know you're shuffing out if

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Speaker 9: he gets off to that. But if he doesn't get

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Speaker 9: off to that start, how does it flow?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, if he doesn't get off to a good start,

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Speaker 7: He's the kind of horse you don't, Anthony. You don't

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02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:40,040
Speaker 7: use them for second or third or fourth. You just

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02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 7: use them the winner be nowhere, because that's kind of

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02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:47,000
Speaker 7: the horse he is. He's got just three wins. If

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Speaker 7: I combined thirty legs, he won the floor. Deserve your

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02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:53,680
Speaker 7: by thirteen legs. He's just rather a number on any

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02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 7: any data that people use. Speed figures is easily the

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Speaker 7: best in the race. So from that standpoint, I mean

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Speaker 7: you have to really like him, But there is that

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Speaker 7: part that you can't really anticipate what is the break

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02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:11,440
Speaker 7: going to be like? And unfortunately there's nothing you know

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02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 7: about it the way after it actually happens. But the

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02:04:13,840 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 7: way I envisioned the race, given what horses have speed

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Speaker 7: and now fast versus is I think he's going to

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Speaker 7: be in a great spot heading into the first turn,

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Speaker 7: which is one of the key parts of the race.

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Speaker 7: So again, if you see seventeen in the top three

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Speaker 7: and in a perfect world in front coming out of

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Speaker 7: the first turn, then to start looking around for your

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Speaker 7: exactness and your tripectus and your super vectus.

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Speaker 9: That he's gonna win.

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Speaker 4: Sierra Leone is the next favorite, and that horse is

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02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:45,360
Speaker 4: I believe in post too. So inside, what are the

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Speaker 4: concerns when you have a horse like that kind of

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Speaker 4: congested to start the race.

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Speaker 7: The concern with Sierra Leone is not talent, because he's

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02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 7: definitely got down he's a nose of being upspeeded before starts,

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Speaker 7: but he has a completely different running style. The fierce

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02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 7: is like he's going to be coming from the way back.

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Speaker 7: So why do we talk about twenty horses who might

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Speaker 7: have to pass. He's gonna past nineteen of them, but

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Speaker 7: maybe maybe fifteen depending on where he is after the

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Speaker 7: first quarter mile, and that that's just problematic because the

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02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 7: chances of keep getting in trouble increased dramatically with the

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Speaker 7: field size like this. But if he gets a clear run,

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Speaker 7: he's incredibly talented, be trained by one of the best

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Speaker 7: in the world, that Chad Brown, who hasn't won the

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Speaker 7: Derby yet, but he's been close and he hasn't had

2280
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Speaker 7: that many tries. This was just good enough to win.

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Speaker 7: But he's gonna need to kind of luck. I don't

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02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 7: think fierce this really is going to need. If here's

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02:05:41,680 --> 02:05:43,800
Speaker 7: this break, you're not going to need any luck needs

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02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:46,040
Speaker 7: to run, whereas here leone is going to need a

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Speaker 7: few breaks along the way.

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Speaker 9: Is there is there and we're talking to the great

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Speaker 9: PICTURARTI amazing horse guy, amazing sports guy. Is there anybody

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02:05:59,120 --> 02:06:02,320
Speaker 9: any of the long shots that you would look to

2289
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:05,640
Speaker 9: maybe to either you know, to come in either come

2290
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Speaker 9: in the checker.

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Speaker 7: A third yeah, my life long shot Anthony is the

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02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 7: seven Honor Marie.

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02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 9: And then a bizarre twist.

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02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:19,440
Speaker 7: This is actually the horse's actual birthday May four, three

2295
02:06:19,560 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 7: years ago. Typically all horses turned three on January first,

2296
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:28,120
Speaker 7: Otherwise it would be just total chaos trying to figure

2297
02:06:28,120 --> 02:06:29,880
Speaker 7: out who could be in the therapy and who couldn't.

2298
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,080
Speaker 7: But yeah, this is a source's actual birthday. And he's

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02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:35,360
Speaker 7: got a similar style to Sierra Leone. And then he

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02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 7: comes from behind.

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Speaker 9: And when I'm.

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Speaker 7: Matching horses, like again, I like fierce, this is seventeen.

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02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:44,080
Speaker 7: I want to match him with horses with opposite running styles.

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02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 7: You want to speed horse with a horse that comes

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02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:49,040
Speaker 7: from behind, like you said for second, third, and fourth,

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02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 7: to fill out an exact that tryfect to superfecto. So yeah,

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02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:55,240
Speaker 7: Honor Marie, the seven is going to be one of

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02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:58,520
Speaker 7: my key horses. If it let's put it this way.

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Speaker 7: If it's seventeen to Evan, I'm gonna be very happy,

2310
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:05,760
Speaker 7: But seventeen seven, I'll be happy. There's some numbers and

2311
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:07,800
Speaker 7: you can you can rest the shure and I will

2312
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:09,160
Speaker 7: have them and I will not have them.

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02:07:09,240 --> 02:07:18,920
Speaker 9: For two, he's to take all the money. He loves it.

2314
02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 9: He wants to do all the money.

2315
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's that's always the goal, all the money,

2316
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 7: not some of the money, not a lot of the money,

2317
02:07:26,360 --> 02:07:27,200
Speaker 7: all of them.

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02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I wrote down. I wrote it down seven

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02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 4: seventeen to two and seven.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 9: I'm taking.

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02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 4: I'm taking, I'm taking all. I'm taking all advice. I'll

2323
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 4: put down as much money as I want for this stuff.

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02:07:37,880 --> 02:07:39,400
Speaker 4: I like to have a little bit, actually, but I

2325
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:42,600
Speaker 4: don't really know. Sometimes you know what I'm doing when

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02:07:43,120 --> 02:07:46,120
Speaker 4: it comes to the ponies, Dick. Two of the four

2327
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 4: longest Derby winners in history of occurred since twenty nineteen

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02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:52,000
Speaker 4: with Country Horts and Rich Strike.

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02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:54,000
Speaker 3: Is this a trend?

2330
02:07:54,160 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 4: Is it something to look for today?

2331
02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 3: Why are we seeing this happen more recently?

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02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting. You go back even to two thousand

2333
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 7: and five. There was a fifty to one one that year.

2334
02:08:07,680 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 7: A couple of years later, mine that bird at fifty

2335
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 7: to one. Then you mentioned country House. He actually finished second,

2336
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 7: but he got moved up when Massive Security was disqualified.

2337
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:18,920
Speaker 7: And then the crazy Rich Strike at eighty to one

2338
02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 7: two years ago, which cost me every ridiculous amount of

2339
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:22,880
Speaker 7: money that I'm trying not to think of that.

2340
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 9: But you know, it is weird.

2341
02:08:27,320 --> 02:08:29,640
Speaker 7: I would say this though, since they've gone to this

2342
02:08:29,800 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 7: new point system like ten years ago, which basically rewards

2343
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:36,720
Speaker 7: the horses who were doing the best mirror the derby.

2344
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 7: We've also had a ton of favorites with really logical horses,

2345
02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:46,200
Speaker 7: such as Justified, an American Pharaoh, and California Crome. And

2346
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 7: I think this year Fierceness, who just lays over the field.

2347
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:53,280
Speaker 7: He doesn't give me the kind of confidence those three

2348
02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:56,120
Speaker 7: gave me because they were more two way horses. They

2349
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 7: could run any kind of way. The break was not

2350
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:03,240
Speaker 7: as relevant. But he has similar kind of palette than

2351
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:06,520
Speaker 7: those three. Again, if if you could let me bet

2352
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:11,360
Speaker 7: three four hundred yards into the race, I couldn't bet

2353
02:09:11,440 --> 02:09:12,320
Speaker 7: enough one Fierceness.

2354
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:17,320
Speaker 9: If he's got a good position, you're in game betting.

2355
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 9: Let me ask you would we the there's a Philly

2356
02:09:25,720 --> 02:09:29,640
Speaker 9: horse and this is just uh Jason Wirth who played

2357
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 9: for the Phillies as a horse. Do you give him

2358
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 9: any kind of love? Like lady? Right?

2359
02:09:36,280 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 7: So Jason got involved in the game not that long ago,

2360
02:09:39,240 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 7: and and that we did an interview with him for

2361
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:43,600
Speaker 7: our horse RACTV show in Philly.

2362
02:09:43,680 --> 02:09:46,240
Speaker 9: Let's Go Racing, and he.

2363
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:48,760
Speaker 7: Loves this game, I mean, he absolutely loves it, and

2364
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 7: he's got a piece of door knock, the one who

2365
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:54,840
Speaker 7: won the rems In stakes. In fact, Sieri Leon's only

2366
02:09:55,000 --> 02:09:57,919
Speaker 7: loss it with door knock David Philim at Aqueduct in December.

2367
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:02,000
Speaker 7: Most recently four in the Bluegrass Steaks one defuntly of

2368
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:05,000
Speaker 7: us stakes. So yeah, he's absolutely contender, Anthony. What they're

2369
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:08,200
Speaker 7: going to probably do with him given the the one post,

2370
02:10:08,200 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 7: They're probably going to try to send him right to

2371
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:10,360
Speaker 7: the front.

2372
02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:12,200
Speaker 9: The problem is he.

2373
02:10:12,240 --> 02:10:14,040
Speaker 7: Ain't the only one trying to go out there, so

2374
02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:16,520
Speaker 7: there's going to be company. But yeah, it's very cool

2375
02:10:16,600 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 7: that Jason and you can tell that he's absolutely having

2376
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:22,600
Speaker 7: a ball. And like a lot of athletes when they're

2377
02:10:22,760 --> 02:10:27,200
Speaker 7: finished playing, they are just they're desperate for some action,

2378
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:29,160
Speaker 7: right because they've been action guys in the whole life.

2379
02:10:30,120 --> 02:10:32,000
Speaker 7: And when you own a horse and the horse that's

2380
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:34,360
Speaker 7: up in the winner circle, it's like you just won

2381
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 7: the World Series, you.

2382
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 11: Just won a big game.

2383
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:42,600
Speaker 9: That's exactly how well you tell Jeff, you mentioned like

2384
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:46,720
Speaker 9: you so close to Pacino, right, like you know you

2385
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:50,640
Speaker 9: met all these guys and down there on Derby Day.

2386
02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:51,960
Speaker 9: It's like one after another.

2387
02:10:52,840 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's one of it's probably the biggest celebrity

2388
02:10:56,240 --> 02:10:58,240
Speaker 7: event we have other than the super Bowl.

2389
02:10:58,600 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 9: I mean they're all.

2390
02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:04,160
Speaker 7: Theres for from movie stars, music, I mean everywhere, they're

2391
02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 7: all coming to it. Again. Rick Betino's has everybody knows

2392
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:11,840
Speaker 7: legendary basketball coach. But he I think he got into

2393
02:11:11,920 --> 02:11:14,120
Speaker 7: the horses a little bit before he went to Kentucky,

2394
02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:16,400
Speaker 7: but when he began to coach in UK back in

2395
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:18,840
Speaker 7: the late eighties that he really got into it and

2396
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 7: he's owed horses ever since that. Anty I might have

2397
02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:23,800
Speaker 7: told you this story. I actually saw him at the garden,

2398
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 7: Uh what was locker room? Saint John's playing Bordam in

2399
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:32,360
Speaker 7: the garden back in early December, and he was telling

2400
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 7: me how much he hated his team, which he eventually

2401
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:37,720
Speaker 7: told everybody, and then they started playing better. Yes, And

2402
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:40,960
Speaker 7: I said, Rick, what are you doing this for? I said,

2403
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:42,480
Speaker 7: you know you don't. You have nothing to prove you

2404
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:45,600
Speaker 7: you hate all your players, hate everything because I need to.

2405
02:11:45,680 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 7: I need to make money to pay for all my horses. Man,

2406
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 7: because he owns a bunch of horses. But trust me,

2407
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:55,120
Speaker 7: he doesn't need to make any more money. He's doing

2408
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 7: this fun.

2409
02:11:56,760 --> 02:11:57,520
Speaker 3: I love it so much.

2410
02:11:57,760 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 4: If you're a novice, I just want to have some

2411
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:04,240
Speaker 4: action on race. Is betting fierceness just the best way

2412
02:12:04,280 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 4: to go.

2413
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, but fierceness to win that that just if you

2414
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:10,960
Speaker 7: can tell all your friends say, I just picked the

2415
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 7: derby winner. And again it's just the whole key. The

2416
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 7: whole key is is the beginning of the race.

2417
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:19,480
Speaker 9: It's kind of this.

2418
02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:21,960
Speaker 7: It's not like another sport, right. You can have a

2419
02:12:22,040 --> 02:12:25,000
Speaker 7: bad first quarter of basketball and you got three quarters

2420
02:12:25,040 --> 02:12:27,520
Speaker 7: to make it up. In this game, if things go

2421
02:12:27,720 --> 02:12:29,840
Speaker 7: bad at the beginning, that affects the rest of it.

2422
02:12:29,840 --> 02:12:32,960
Speaker 7: And it's only two minutes long, and they're animals, and

2423
02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:35,640
Speaker 7: it's just there's wild things that happen. You just got

2424
02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:38,360
Speaker 7: to be prepared for it. But yeah, in this circumstance,

2425
02:12:38,640 --> 02:12:42,600
Speaker 7: fierceness to win is the most likely winning wager of

2426
02:12:43,120 --> 02:12:44,280
Speaker 7: any that are active.

2427
02:12:45,840 --> 02:12:50,000
Speaker 9: There. It is, Dick. It's always great hanging man. Who you?

2428
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:50,960
Speaker 9: Who are you here for?

2429
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:54,240
Speaker 7: Yeah? I'm doing a lot of stuff for bet on

2430
02:12:54,520 --> 02:12:57,120
Speaker 7: bet online. Uh, Anthony, and you guys will love this

2431
02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:01,440
Speaker 7: my ment Jimmy Shapiro, South Jersey, how about this for

2432
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 7: everybody loves prop bets? Right, how about this prop bet today?

2433
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:10,240
Speaker 7: It's over under on the winning margin. What did I

2434
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:12,080
Speaker 7: tell you before about fierceness When he.

2435
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 9: Wins, he wins? Speak right?

2436
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:17,600
Speaker 7: Thirteen lengths and a Flartia Derby's combined margin of wins

2437
02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:21,320
Speaker 7: three races thirty lengths. So I'm recommending the over a

2438
02:13:21,440 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 7: length and a half. And the cool thing about it

2439
02:13:23,920 --> 02:13:26,960
Speaker 7: is you don't get just fierceness, you get the whole field.

2440
02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:29,640
Speaker 7: So if any horse wins by a length and a half,

2441
02:13:29,720 --> 02:13:33,400
Speaker 7: you catch. So that's a prop bet. I absolutely love it.

2442
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:38,320
Speaker 9: That online to that Wow, wow, the prop ject there's

2443
02:13:38,360 --> 02:13:39,200
Speaker 9: even props.

2444
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:43,320
Speaker 4: Oh oh, I saw that you can wager on the

2445
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:46,800
Speaker 4: on the action on like eleven to thirteen lengths. You

2446
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:49,320
Speaker 4: can wager on just like the length limits and some

2447
02:13:49,440 --> 02:13:50,040
Speaker 4: of the stuff as.

2448
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:53,040
Speaker 7: Well, So like, oh yeah, it's it's all out there,

2449
02:13:53,080 --> 02:13:54,440
Speaker 7: right if you think you can just sell that though

2450
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 7: you think it's gonna win by more than that, there's that.

2451
02:13:57,280 --> 02:13:59,520
Speaker 7: There's all kinds you know, a bed online has all

2452
02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:01,600
Speaker 7: the latest props and outs on the Derby. But yeah,

2453
02:14:01,640 --> 02:14:04,400
Speaker 7: that's the prop I really like the most is the

2454
02:14:04,480 --> 02:14:06,640
Speaker 7: overall length and a half. Again, if here's this wins,

2455
02:14:07,040 --> 02:14:07,520
Speaker 7: it ain't.

2456
02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:11,880
Speaker 9: Gonna be close. Yeah, that's wild man, that's great stuff.

2457
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:15,480
Speaker 9: Dick to the best man. We love you, buddy, Thank

2458
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:20,600
Speaker 9: you got it, Anthony, Thanks guys, see it many, Dick Girard,

2459
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:24,280
Speaker 9: he knows his stuff, Jack, Yeah, so he knows his stuff.

2460
02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:27,480
Speaker 4: How about this, So I can see here, one length

2461
02:14:27,720 --> 02:14:31,680
Speaker 4: to two and three fourth lengths is plus two twenty.

2462
02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:34,120
Speaker 3: You had everything like.

2463
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:40,440
Speaker 4: Like eleventh, eleven to fourteen and three quarters lengths is

2464
02:14:40,480 --> 02:14:44,560
Speaker 4: plus twelve hundred. Fifteen lengths or more is plus fourteen hundred.

2465
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:47,840
Speaker 4: I feel like with Fierce, this ability to get out

2466
02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 4: and just control the race, fifteen lengths or more is

2467
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:53,720
Speaker 4: not bad, right, plus fourteen Nona.

2468
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:57,160
Speaker 9: I mean you're right, like he's got a chance to

2469
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:58,080
Speaker 9: run away.

2470
02:14:57,880 --> 02:15:00,680
Speaker 3: With it if you gets to go from the from sixteen.

2471
02:15:01,720 --> 02:15:03,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I.

2472
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 7: Like it.

2473
02:15:05,320 --> 02:15:08,800
Speaker 9: Suck city that brother, I love that. That's pretty cool.

2474
02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:12,880
Speaker 4: I told you I made I have the I have

2475
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:14,600
Speaker 4: a lot of wagers for this race. I don't know

2476
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:18,560
Speaker 4: how it works, but I know I have all these

2477
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:20,600
Speaker 4: exact does like, I have all this stuff ready to go.

2478
02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:22,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if any how any of it works,

2479
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:25,400
Speaker 4: but but I have it ready to go if I

2480
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:26,880
Speaker 4: win today. I don't know. We'll find out.

2481
02:15:26,760 --> 02:15:27,320
Speaker 3: After the race.

2482
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:31,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, li'sten. Good luck? Are you? Uh? Do you

2483
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:34,520
Speaker 9: know which horses though? Are you locked in on h

2484
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:36,200
Speaker 9: on the favorite? I have?

2485
02:15:36,400 --> 02:15:37,000
Speaker 3: Well, so I didn't.

2486
02:15:37,160 --> 02:15:41,320
Speaker 4: I was told to do an exact a box two three, six, eight,

2487
02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:42,400
Speaker 4: seventeen nineteen.

2488
02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:48,600
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, that's all. I I like it.

2489
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:51,160
Speaker 4: That's what I have going. I don't know what I again.

2490
02:15:51,200 --> 02:15:53,840
Speaker 4: I I gamble a lot on a lot of different things.

2491
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't really know what that means, but I know

2492
02:15:57,840 --> 02:16:01,800
Speaker 4: that if seventeen wins, I should be good.

2493
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:07,400
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, seventeen wins. Your role with man, that's

2494
02:16:07,400 --> 02:16:09,280
Speaker 9: what we got to root for. I love it. I

2495
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:12,720
Speaker 9: love it. We got to get the break. So we'll

2496
02:16:12,760 --> 02:16:17,200
Speaker 9: go take a quick too. We'll turn the wagering talk

2497
02:16:18,200 --> 02:16:22,640
Speaker 9: to some sports and now listen, you and Chris do

2498
02:16:22,840 --> 02:16:25,680
Speaker 9: the podcast. Yeah, do you guys do a lot of

2499
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:27,960
Speaker 9: betting podcasts? How do people check that out?

2500
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:33,240
Speaker 4: Bare Bets It's on any of your favorite podcast platform

2501
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:36,480
Speaker 4: of choice. We cover everything, man, we got Yeah, I

2502
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:39,680
Speaker 4: mean there's there's lots of wagers to make future wagers

2503
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:42,480
Speaker 4: and now we have wind totals out for NFL season.

2504
02:16:42,520 --> 02:16:43,400
Speaker 4: I mean there's just a lot to do.

2505
02:16:45,080 --> 02:16:49,080
Speaker 9: Is you're a particular there's a couple of great win

2506
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 9: totals of teams that I that I just absolutely love.

2507
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:56,120
Speaker 9: I mean that that NFC North is going to be

2508
02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:57,080
Speaker 9: a great division.

2509
02:16:58,280 --> 02:17:00,480
Speaker 4: I Mean the first wager I made immediately was it

2510
02:17:00,560 --> 02:17:03,080
Speaker 4: to the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl again, because

2511
02:17:03,600 --> 02:17:11,880
Speaker 4: why would you not do that? Yeah, I haven't dabbled

2512
02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:15,440
Speaker 4: quite yet. I mean I'm gonna fade the Jets most likely,

2513
02:17:18,560 --> 02:17:22,320
Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean I I I haven't looked at

2514
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:25,000
Speaker 4: it yet and very very extensively.

2515
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:29,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, we should do that next time we

2516
02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:31,880
Speaker 9: hook up. We gotta go through the wind totals. Oh yeah,

2517
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:33,680
Speaker 9: because when you look at some of the rosters, like

2518
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:37,960
Speaker 9: we're talking about these these improved rosters, you know, that

2519
02:17:38,240 --> 02:17:40,600
Speaker 9: gives you kind of feel and now's the time to

2520
02:17:40,720 --> 02:17:44,560
Speaker 9: play your win totals. You're over on their you get

2521
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:49,200
Speaker 9: a better price. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's good stuff. All right,

2522
02:17:49,280 --> 02:17:51,640
Speaker 9: let's take quick break and that we'll come back. The

2523
02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:54,360
Speaker 9: Big Brain Jepp will be hanging with us.

2524
02:17:56,440 --> 02:17:59,680
Speaker 4: Welcome back in Fox Sports Saturday Live from tyreq dot

2525
02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:03,800
Speaker 4: COM's studios. It is the fellas, Jeff Schwartz, Anthony Gargana.

2526
02:18:03,879 --> 02:18:08,280
Speaker 4: We're joined now by the Brain Brad Feinberg to talk

2527
02:18:08,360 --> 02:18:09,680
Speaker 4: all things sports wagering.

2528
02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:11,360
Speaker 3: Brad, welcome to the program.

2529
02:18:12,320 --> 02:18:13,040
Speaker 9: How are you today?

2530
02:18:14,280 --> 02:18:14,680
Speaker 3: I'm great.

2531
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:18,760
Speaker 11: Good to hear your voice.

2532
02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:19,240
Speaker 7: What's going on?

2533
02:18:20,520 --> 02:18:22,440
Speaker 9: So? Wait? So this is great? You guys have to

2534
02:18:22,520 --> 02:18:25,680
Speaker 9: meet a big brain. Has been with me for a

2535
02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:30,760
Speaker 9: long time. He's tremendous. Uh, you guys love it. Jeff

2536
02:18:30,760 --> 02:18:33,760
Speaker 9: Schwartz used to play for the Giants, among many other teams.

2537
02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:38,720
Speaker 9: Remember the NFL. Man is now now does a podcast

2538
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:44,000
Speaker 9: with Chris Fulica who you know the Bears. Uh? Though,

2539
02:18:44,560 --> 02:18:47,720
Speaker 9: those guys do a betting podcast. Brad, So I figure

2540
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 9: you guys would be perfect to chop it up.

2541
02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:52,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, Jeff, I you'll have to get me on

2542
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:53,280
Speaker 11: the show sometime.

2543
02:18:53,320 --> 02:18:54,760
Speaker 9: I was enough to speak to you guys.

2544
02:18:54,800 --> 02:18:57,960
Speaker 11: But yeah, Jeff, you had a great career in the NFL.

2545
02:18:58,000 --> 02:18:59,720
Speaker 11: When it's in a pleasure to be speaking to you today.

2546
02:19:00,480 --> 02:19:04,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for joining us. Derby is coming up later today.

2547
02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:06,080
Speaker 4: We know that's a kind of a one off event

2548
02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:08,800
Speaker 4: that everyone loves to wager on. What's your advice for

2549
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:12,480
Speaker 4: maybe someone who is who is new to horse racing?

2550
02:19:12,480 --> 02:19:14,720
Speaker 4: How would you wager on this event Tonight's.

2551
02:19:14,879 --> 02:19:15,560
Speaker 9: Well, it's interesting.

2552
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:18,840
Speaker 11: Derby's not my area of expertise, but I will say this.

2553
02:19:18,959 --> 02:19:21,160
Speaker 11: What I like about the Derby's this, Jeff, is that

2554
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:23,800
Speaker 11: it's the one and it really is the one and

2555
02:19:23,959 --> 02:19:28,439
Speaker 11: only horse race where you can get great, great, tremendous

2556
02:19:28,520 --> 02:19:31,160
Speaker 11: odds because of how many horses are in the field. Right,

2557
02:19:31,160 --> 02:19:33,720
Speaker 11: it's twenty horse field. So if you do any kind

2558
02:19:33,760 --> 02:19:37,680
Speaker 11: of exact, even if you take let's say the two favorites, okay,

2559
02:19:38,280 --> 02:19:40,440
Speaker 11: in a day like today, you're still probably going to

2560
02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:43,160
Speaker 11: get at least twenty to one, at least twenty to

2561
02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:45,120
Speaker 11: one on a two dollars exact, you know, twenty to

2562
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:48,800
Speaker 11: one odds forty dollars on a two dollars exact because

2563
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:51,520
Speaker 11: of just how many horses are on the buying and

2564
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:54,080
Speaker 11: the horses. So I would say, if there's a horse

2565
02:19:54,120 --> 02:19:56,960
Speaker 11: that you like, this is the day where you can

2566
02:19:57,080 --> 02:19:59,600
Speaker 11: really got it that the things are just shining on

2567
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:03,520
Speaker 11: you with different exotics and different things. If you and

2568
02:20:03,600 --> 02:20:05,440
Speaker 11: you don't put up that much money to hit a

2569
02:20:05,520 --> 02:20:08,080
Speaker 11: crazy thing, uh, this is the race to do it

2570
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:10,880
Speaker 11: on because there's just so many you know, courses in

2571
02:20:10,920 --> 02:20:13,880
Speaker 11: the field that this is this is the time that

2572
02:20:13,959 --> 02:20:15,720
Speaker 11: maybe you can get one of those, you know, monster

2573
02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:18,080
Speaker 11: hits that you normally couldn't get the traditional worse race.

2574
02:20:20,320 --> 02:20:26,160
Speaker 9: So let's talk your area of expertise, which is team

2575
02:20:26,240 --> 02:20:31,400
Speaker 9: sports and sure most notly who All right? So would

2576
02:20:31,480 --> 02:20:34,040
Speaker 9: you make out we got a big one tonight. I'm

2577
02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:37,880
Speaker 9: pumped up because I think Minnesota can beat that Mararah,

2578
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,240
Speaker 9: and I'm curious the kind of how we uh, how

2579
02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:43,640
Speaker 9: are you looking at the start of this series, Anthony.

2580
02:20:43,680 --> 02:20:44,040
Speaker 9: I love it.

2581
02:20:44,080 --> 02:20:46,959
Speaker 11: It's funny because we did not talk, and it's weird

2582
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:49,800
Speaker 11: how we always see great it is. It's pretty funny.

2583
02:20:49,920 --> 02:20:51,720
Speaker 9: Uh No, we do. It's really weird.

2584
02:20:51,879 --> 02:20:53,640
Speaker 11: Like I don't know if there's like as I said,

2585
02:20:53,720 --> 02:20:55,600
Speaker 11: some of you know, we just always seem to have

2586
02:20:55,720 --> 02:20:56,440
Speaker 11: this energy with it.

2587
02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 9: But I you know, I agree with you, and.

2588
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:02,080
Speaker 11: Listen, I've been as big of a Denver backer as

2589
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:04,400
Speaker 11: you will find. I think they're winners. I think that

2590
02:21:04,560 --> 02:21:07,600
Speaker 11: they they just are tough as nails. And then when

2591
02:21:07,640 --> 02:21:11,120
Speaker 11: they're playing the Lakers, yeah, those close games. You know,

2592
02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:13,640
Speaker 11: I just you know, I really thought strongly they would

2593
02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:16,320
Speaker 11: win those close games and they did. But you know what,

2594
02:21:16,440 --> 02:21:20,080
Speaker 11: it's interesting, Minnesota. You know what I love about them, guys,

2595
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:24,160
Speaker 11: is I love the combination of youth and veteran leadership

2596
02:21:24,240 --> 02:21:27,160
Speaker 11: they have on this team. Right, you have obviously Edwards,

2597
02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:30,800
Speaker 11: who is a young superstar, but guys like Conley and

2598
02:21:30,959 --> 02:21:33,720
Speaker 11: go Bear and even Towns have been around for a

2599
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:39,240
Speaker 11: long time now, and they just have a really to me,

2600
02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:43,160
Speaker 11: I'm obviously nas rude off the bench, Mikail Alexander, I

2601
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:46,039
Speaker 11: think they have. I just think a really great team.

2602
02:21:46,120 --> 02:21:48,920
Speaker 11: I like McDaniels. I think he's a tremendous defender. It's

2603
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:51,480
Speaker 11: the best defensive team in the NBA, A team that's

2604
02:21:51,560 --> 02:21:56,800
Speaker 11: great length, they can bother your opponent. And I look,

2605
02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:58,880
Speaker 11: I have a ticket on my pocket. I bet Minnesota

2606
02:21:58,920 --> 02:22:00,960
Speaker 11: plucked the dollar ninety five the series. You can still

2607
02:22:00,959 --> 02:22:03,880
Speaker 11: get plucks around a dollar seventy. I made the price

2608
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:07,560
Speaker 11: personally Denver minus a dollar thirty five. So to me,

2609
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:10,640
Speaker 11: I see value in taking the underdog tim Wolves. I

2610
02:22:10,680 --> 02:22:13,960
Speaker 11: think it's gonna be a great series, and I have

2611
02:22:14,080 --> 02:22:16,840
Speaker 11: a weird feeling that that Minnesota may do. And I

2612
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:20,720
Speaker 11: think the winner of this series, in my opinion, isn't

2613
02:22:20,760 --> 02:22:22,320
Speaker 11: going to be in my at least in my head,

2614
02:22:22,879 --> 02:22:24,760
Speaker 11: a real favorite to go to the finals. I think

2615
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:26,920
Speaker 11: both these teams are better than Dallas and Okay se.

2616
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:30,280
Speaker 4: Is this one of those series where you sort of

2617
02:22:30,520 --> 02:22:32,920
Speaker 4: weighed out the proper market to see how game one goes,

2618
02:22:32,920 --> 02:22:37,520
Speaker 4: because I feel like with the Nuggets, with the Wolves defense,

2619
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:40,200
Speaker 4: and I don't know how they're going to defend Denver,

2620
02:22:40,600 --> 02:22:43,400
Speaker 4: the length obviously could be a factor if you kind

2621
02:22:43,400 --> 02:22:45,280
Speaker 4: of say, out props game one and see how it goes,

2622
02:22:45,400 --> 02:22:47,480
Speaker 4: or are you kind of dive in all the way in,

2623
02:22:47,760 --> 02:22:49,400
Speaker 4: you know, in the first game of the series.

2624
02:22:49,800 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 11: Well, you know, it's interesting. Look, a lot of times

2625
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:53,920
Speaker 11: I think these games are their own, like paintings or

2626
02:22:53,959 --> 02:22:57,000
Speaker 11: masterpieces per se, where everything is its own. I don't

2627
02:22:57,040 --> 02:23:00,400
Speaker 11: I try not to overreact to one game. And look,

2628
02:23:00,480 --> 02:23:02,680
Speaker 11: these two teams played guys at the end of the

2629
02:23:02,760 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 11: year because I had a very large position on OKC

2630
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:08,680
Speaker 11: to win the division and I thought I was proving

2631
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:12,280
Speaker 11: against Denver and Minnesota quite hard throughout the year. And

2632
02:23:12,920 --> 02:23:14,520
Speaker 11: they played twice at the end of the year, and

2633
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:16,920
Speaker 11: both games were you know, kind of the fact though

2634
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:20,320
Speaker 11: right there for the division, and both games were in Denver.

2635
02:23:20,920 --> 02:23:23,560
Speaker 11: Minnesota blew them out the first time they played, and

2636
02:23:23,640 --> 02:23:25,800
Speaker 11: then the second time they played, they were winning at halftime.

2637
02:23:25,840 --> 02:23:28,160
Speaker 11: But they ended up Denver ended up going way late

2638
02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:29,840
Speaker 11: and fourth and getting the victory.

2639
02:23:30,840 --> 02:23:31,080
Speaker 9: Again.

2640
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:33,560
Speaker 11: I think these teams know each other. Again, I expected

2641
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,160
Speaker 11: to be a very good series. Now, guys, Jamal Murray,

2642
02:23:36,400 --> 02:23:39,279
Speaker 11: I heard his questionable at night and Jamal Murray obviously

2643
02:23:39,320 --> 02:23:43,040
Speaker 11: played in game vibe was just incredible. Again. But I

2644
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:46,240
Speaker 11: always say this all the time, And you know, Jeff,

2645
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:48,160
Speaker 11: you was a guy who played in the sport. You

2646
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:50,480
Speaker 11: could talk about this at the highest of high levels.

2647
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:54,360
Speaker 11: Sometimes as fans we treat these players like John Madden,

2648
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:57,640
Speaker 11: characters and not human beings. And you know, we see

2649
02:23:57,720 --> 02:24:00,360
Speaker 11: Jamal Murray questionable and even as a better or someone

2650
02:24:00,400 --> 02:24:02,160
Speaker 11: I just don't even think anything of that. Oh he's playing,

2651
02:24:02,440 --> 02:24:06,400
Speaker 11: he's fine. Well maybe he's fine, but maybe he's really hurt,

2652
02:24:06,680 --> 02:24:08,480
Speaker 11: and maybe he's going to be limited, and maybe he's

2653
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:11,200
Speaker 11: not going to be the Jamal Murray superstar that he's

2654
02:24:11,240 --> 02:24:13,800
Speaker 11: been throughout you know, especially in these playoffs he normally is.

2655
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:18,200
Speaker 11: So I would certainly monitor that part, Jeff, because to me,

2656
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:22,000
Speaker 11: Murray's health is paramount. They will not win this series

2657
02:24:22,040 --> 02:24:24,760
Speaker 11: if he's not right, Okay, kind of like the six

2658
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:26,760
Speaker 11: Ers can be weren't able to be the next because

2659
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:29,840
Speaker 11: Joel Embid clearly was not the Joel Embid that he

2660
02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:32,760
Speaker 11: was the first thirty five games of the year. Same

2661
02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:34,560
Speaker 11: thing here with Denver. I really think they need a

2662
02:24:34,640 --> 02:24:37,520
Speaker 11: healthy Murray to win this series. And again I agree

2663
02:24:37,560 --> 02:24:39,480
Speaker 11: with Anthony though, I think Minnesota is a really good

2664
02:24:39,560 --> 02:24:41,440
Speaker 11: chance here and to think it's gonna be.

2665
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:41,960
Speaker 9: A great series.

2666
02:24:42,120 --> 02:24:43,480
Speaker 11: I think the winner of this series goes to the

2667
02:24:43,560 --> 02:24:44,200
Speaker 11: NBA Finals.

2668
02:24:46,200 --> 02:24:50,520
Speaker 9: So how about let's go through them? So Nicks Pacers.

2669
02:24:51,480 --> 02:24:53,280
Speaker 9: He's going to be a fun one because of the

2670
02:24:53,360 --> 02:24:57,800
Speaker 9: clash and styles, right, because Indiana can score, and the

2671
02:24:57,879 --> 02:25:00,880
Speaker 9: Knicks obviously played defense and may grind you with Tibbs

2672
02:25:01,400 --> 02:25:05,600
Speaker 9: attack and the glass styles make fights. How do you?

2673
02:25:05,920 --> 02:25:07,960
Speaker 9: How do you come up? How do you this one?

2674
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:08,280
Speaker 9: You know?

2675
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:10,400
Speaker 11: I'll be honest. I was a little surpri I I

2676
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:14,199
Speaker 11: was potentially gonna uh again. I was saying I bet numbers, Anthony,

2677
02:25:14,320 --> 02:25:18,119
Speaker 11: not not teams or situations. I became a little higher

2678
02:25:18,160 --> 02:25:19,560
Speaker 11: than I thought it was. I was maybe looking to

2679
02:25:19,640 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 11: take the Knicks, but the number O those would be

2680
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:24,560
Speaker 11: closer to than the maybe hopefully closer to the two

2681
02:25:24,600 --> 02:25:26,360
Speaker 11: to one area, but it's the closer to the two

2682
02:25:26,400 --> 02:25:30,160
Speaker 11: and a half to one area. I listen, it's a

2683
02:25:30,160 --> 02:25:31,720
Speaker 11: little bit higher and actually thought it would be it

2684
02:25:31,840 --> 02:25:34,360
Speaker 11: really is. I do think Nick's are gonna win the series.

2685
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:39,199
Speaker 11: I respect Indiana, but again, Haliburton, you know, hast been questionable,

2686
02:25:39,240 --> 02:25:41,160
Speaker 11: have been be able to get through it and been playing.

2687
02:25:41,879 --> 02:25:44,880
Speaker 11: Uh the Knicks, Anthony, look, we we watched them. We

2688
02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:47,200
Speaker 11: know what they are. I mean, they're just that that

2689
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:50,959
Speaker 11: team that just grinds you out. No, Indiana has good depth,

2690
02:25:51,080 --> 02:25:53,080
Speaker 11: which I like. I think they have a deeper team

2691
02:25:53,120 --> 02:25:56,680
Speaker 11: than Philly had. Like I love Popping and McConnell off

2692
02:25:56,760 --> 02:26:01,400
Speaker 11: the bench. I think those guys and mccare i've been

2693
02:26:01,720 --> 02:26:04,520
Speaker 11: I think I also think McConnell can do it, maybe

2694
02:26:04,560 --> 02:26:10,120
Speaker 11: a better job against against Brunson potentially than what Philly

2695
02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:12,440
Speaker 11: was able to do. Philadelphia wasn't able to slow him

2696
02:26:12,440 --> 02:26:15,560
Speaker 11: down even a little bit. I've always I mean, Anthony

2697
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:17,400
Speaker 11: U is a Philly guy. Now, I mean DJ McConnell

2698
02:26:17,440 --> 02:26:19,640
Speaker 11: is always one of my favorite sixers. He's really had

2699
02:26:19,680 --> 02:26:23,959
Speaker 11: a very underrated, terrific career. It's like a reserve bench

2700
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:26,880
Speaker 11: guy and he's it's been great for Indiana as well.

2701
02:26:28,040 --> 02:26:29,960
Speaker 11: But really, I think it's be a good series. I

2702
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:31,440
Speaker 11: do think the Knicks are going to win it. Again.

2703
02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:34,440
Speaker 11: I'm not going to lay two fifty, but I do

2704
02:26:34,600 --> 02:26:36,080
Speaker 11: think the Knicks are the better team, and I think

2705
02:26:36,120 --> 02:26:37,720
Speaker 11: the Knicks are going to go to the conference finals

2706
02:26:37,720 --> 02:26:40,920
Speaker 11: against Boston. But I do recommend to that for everyone listening.

2707
02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:43,920
Speaker 11: I did lay an hour ninety on Boston to win

2708
02:26:43,959 --> 02:26:46,360
Speaker 11: the East, and I know Personis is going to miss

2709
02:26:46,400 --> 02:26:49,800
Speaker 11: this next series, guys, but without him again, they're going

2710
02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 11: to beat Cleveland or Orlando, I don't care. And then

2711
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:55,200
Speaker 11: I'm assuming he will be back to the Conference finals

2712
02:26:55,480 --> 02:26:58,200
Speaker 11: even if he's not. I think this Boston team is

2713
02:26:58,280 --> 02:27:02,560
Speaker 11: significantly better than either Indiana or New York. And I

2714
02:27:02,680 --> 02:27:05,080
Speaker 11: think Boston, laying around a two to one price in

2715
02:27:05,200 --> 02:27:07,879
Speaker 11: my opinion, is closer to minus four to five hundred

2716
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:10,560
Speaker 11: in my area. I'm surprised that they're that small but

2717
02:27:10,640 --> 02:27:12,760
Speaker 11: favorite to go to in the NBA Finals.

2718
02:27:14,680 --> 02:27:16,199
Speaker 4: I was just gonna ask you if you think anyone

2719
02:27:16,360 --> 02:27:18,000
Speaker 4: at any price you would you would put down an

2720
02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:20,600
Speaker 4: underdog to win the East. It sounds like no price

2721
02:27:20,879 --> 02:27:21,279
Speaker 4: for anyone.

2722
02:27:21,520 --> 02:27:25,440
Speaker 11: Well again, I personally, Jeff like I think they Boston

2723
02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:27,879
Speaker 11: is closer, like you know, around eighty two eighty three

2724
02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:31,120
Speaker 11: percent to go to the finals, which translates over about

2725
02:27:31,160 --> 02:27:33,240
Speaker 11: minus five hundred. So I get my numbers. I have

2726
02:27:33,320 --> 02:27:36,200
Speaker 11: Boston so much higher than these other teams in my

2727
02:27:36,400 --> 02:27:38,520
Speaker 11: numbers that I again laying two to one.

2728
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:38,720
Speaker 7: To me?

2729
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:40,640
Speaker 11: Is that actually again, I'm be one of my larger

2730
02:27:40,760 --> 02:27:44,680
Speaker 11: that's you're on it. I really like Boston laying a

2731
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:46,840
Speaker 11: small price. Like to me, it's a very small price.

2732
02:27:47,160 --> 02:27:49,800
Speaker 11: And when you just look at a former athlete, usually

2733
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:53,320
Speaker 11: when when you have a dominant team, you don't get

2734
02:27:53,360 --> 02:27:56,120
Speaker 11: them at a price that small. Usually, especially if that's

2735
02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:58,040
Speaker 11: the seven look eBay to sport where it was one

2736
02:27:58,080 --> 02:28:00,400
Speaker 11: and done. Anyone could bet anyone in any game day.

2737
02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:02,360
Speaker 11: It's not like that in the NBA. There's no any

2738
02:28:02,400 --> 02:28:04,160
Speaker 11: given day. It's it's you have to be team four

2739
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:07,160
Speaker 11: different given days. And I dare someone in the Eastern

2740
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:09,000
Speaker 11: Conference to beat this team four times. I don't think

2741
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:09,560
Speaker 11: it's going to happen.

2742
02:28:10,120 --> 02:28:12,640
Speaker 4: Also, the number is almost three to one. Now would

2743
02:28:12,640 --> 02:28:15,600
Speaker 4: you suggest laying up to that number two or just

2744
02:28:15,760 --> 02:28:16,280
Speaker 4: the number two?

2745
02:28:16,440 --> 02:28:20,560
Speaker 11: I didn't know that much, Okay, let's right now, all right,

2746
02:28:20,560 --> 02:28:22,640
Speaker 11: Well again I think that's a much Okay, I laid

2747
02:28:22,680 --> 02:28:25,800
Speaker 11: one ninety literally two days ago. So okay, it really

2748
02:28:25,879 --> 02:28:29,400
Speaker 11: did go up a lot, do I I mean, well, again,

2749
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:31,280
Speaker 11: I still think there's some value there in the sense

2750
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:33,680
Speaker 11: that again my numbers have this closer to minus five

2751
02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:37,160
Speaker 11: hundred jump. But again that sucks out. Again, it sucks

2752
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:39,640
Speaker 11: out a lot of the value to me, laying one

2753
02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:42,200
Speaker 11: ninety if you lose, it's not going to really kill

2754
02:28:42,240 --> 02:28:44,200
Speaker 11: you lang two eighty. If it loses, it's much more

2755
02:28:44,280 --> 02:28:47,720
Speaker 11: to hit your bank roll for sure. But again, this

2756
02:28:47,800 --> 02:28:50,680
Speaker 11: team is going to in my opinion, what I may

2757
02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:53,760
Speaker 11: look to do is when they played Cleveland or Orlando

2758
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:56,200
Speaker 11: that them either in four or five. See what those

2759
02:28:56,240 --> 02:28:58,440
Speaker 11: prices are, because I would be stolen to either those

2760
02:28:58,480 --> 02:28:59,840
Speaker 11: teams are able to get two games off.

2761
02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:04,600
Speaker 9: Ball and he think with Dallas, Okase, you know.

2762
02:29:04,600 --> 02:29:08,040
Speaker 11: It's interesting, like again, like I have a large sheets

2763
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:09,920
Speaker 11: ok at one hundred and one to win the title,

2764
02:29:10,280 --> 02:29:12,440
Speaker 11: fifty to one to win the West. So I mean,

2765
02:29:12,520 --> 02:29:14,960
Speaker 11: that's like the team I'm just praying came in and

2766
02:29:15,280 --> 02:29:17,840
Speaker 11: pray they somehow win this series. I'm gonna bet the

2767
02:29:17,879 --> 02:29:21,080
Speaker 11: you know what out of the Minnesota Denver winner and

2768
02:29:21,480 --> 02:29:23,320
Speaker 11: make a huge profit. I got my money back. I

2769
02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:26,440
Speaker 11: bet the no I just to get my initial investment back.

2770
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:28,080
Speaker 9: I bet on Dallas.

2771
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:30,120
Speaker 11: I think Dallas is gonna win the series. Although Luca,

2772
02:29:30,240 --> 02:29:33,520
Speaker 11: I will say this, Luca clearly was grabbing his leg

2773
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:37,680
Speaker 11: throughout the game. I mean, he doesn't seem like quite right.

2774
02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:40,560
Speaker 11: Kyrie seems to be playing at high as the high levels.

2775
02:29:40,640 --> 02:29:43,840
Speaker 11: He was a phenomenally a second half last night. I

2776
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:47,480
Speaker 11: think Dallas is gonna win a close series. I'm not

2777
02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:49,959
Speaker 11: a serious I would bet on I made the series.

2778
02:29:50,560 --> 02:29:53,200
Speaker 11: I made the series, okayc minus one twenty. I think

2779
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:55,240
Speaker 11: I came out minus one fifteen, so it was right

2780
02:29:55,280 --> 02:29:58,320
Speaker 11: along with my numbers. But my gut tells me that

2781
02:29:58,480 --> 02:29:59,840
Speaker 11: Dallas is going to find a way to win a

2782
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:01,720
Speaker 11: a serious here. But this is not a series I

2783
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:03,640
Speaker 11: am betting, and I will say this, I would be

2784
02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:05,240
Speaker 11: scared to bet on Dallas, even though I'm saying I

2785
02:30:05,240 --> 02:30:07,640
Speaker 11: think they're going to win, because Luke is health again.

2786
02:30:08,160 --> 02:30:10,440
Speaker 11: They said it's going to take according to Luke himself,

2787
02:30:10,600 --> 02:30:13,400
Speaker 11: it's going to take the rest of the all season

2788
02:30:13,440 --> 02:30:15,880
Speaker 11: trying to be fully healed and healthy. And Anthony is,

2789
02:30:15,920 --> 02:30:17,920
Speaker 11: you know, watching the six Ers with MB and again,

2790
02:30:17,920 --> 02:30:21,480
Speaker 11: if these guys, these superstars are not fully full strength.

2791
02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:25,760
Speaker 11: It affects everything, and if Luke is not one hundred

2792
02:30:25,760 --> 02:30:28,600
Speaker 11: percent healthy, I can't put back Dallas. But I do

2793
02:30:28,680 --> 02:30:31,080
Speaker 11: think they'll find a way to read an Oklahoma's the team,

2794
02:30:31,080 --> 02:30:33,240
Speaker 11: but I don't think it's quite as good as these

2795
02:30:33,360 --> 02:30:35,200
Speaker 11: upper teams like Denver and Minnesota.

2796
02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:40,040
Speaker 4: We've talked a little NFL today. Did anything in the

2797
02:30:40,280 --> 02:30:45,680
Speaker 4: draft change your position at all any futures, whether division

2798
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:49,600
Speaker 4: odds or championship odds or win loss record based off

2799
02:30:49,640 --> 02:30:50,600
Speaker 4: all what you saw in the draft?

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02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:53,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, great question, Jeff, Well, it's funny one of the debts,

2801
02:30:53,920 --> 02:30:55,920
Speaker 11: and I love that question. One of the bets I

2802
02:30:56,160 --> 02:30:59,720
Speaker 11: made previously, and I maybe just much like to that.

2803
02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:02,200
Speaker 11: I bet the Falcons under a ten and a half wins.

2804
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:02,800
Speaker 9: Now.

2805
02:31:03,959 --> 02:31:06,560
Speaker 11: They basically threw away a first round pick, not in

2806
02:31:06,560 --> 02:31:08,320
Speaker 11: the sense that it was a bad pick, but in

2807
02:31:08,360 --> 02:31:10,920
Speaker 11: the sense it for twenty twenty four. You can't argue

2808
02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:12,400
Speaker 11: it was like it was like they punted the pick.

2809
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:16,000
Speaker 11: It was like, you know, like they basically said, you know,

2810
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 11: we're not going to have a twenty four first round pick.

2811
02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:20,320
Speaker 11: And I had no problem by the way, with Pennix

2812
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:23,320
Speaker 11: or Cousins individually, but combined. I hate what they did.

2813
02:31:23,600 --> 02:31:26,520
Speaker 11: I hate it, not just like hate again either move

2814
02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:28,280
Speaker 11: on his own merits. I have no problem with, but

2815
02:31:28,400 --> 02:31:29,760
Speaker 11: doing both I don't like.

2816
02:31:29,879 --> 02:31:29,920
Speaker 9: So.

2817
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:32,440
Speaker 11: I think the Falcons throwing away first round pick hurt

2818
02:31:32,520 --> 02:31:34,400
Speaker 11: Sam made me feel better about their under ten and

2819
02:31:34,440 --> 02:31:36,560
Speaker 11: a half bet that I have, but one that I

2820
02:31:36,640 --> 02:31:38,680
Speaker 11: did add one bet after the draft. It was only

2821
02:31:38,760 --> 02:31:41,640
Speaker 11: one and again I knew they were getting obviously kill Williams,

2822
02:31:41,720 --> 02:31:45,760
Speaker 11: but I really like the Bears. I think people don't

2823
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:48,640
Speaker 11: get again when you're playing, Jeff, as someone who played

2824
02:31:48,680 --> 02:31:51,520
Speaker 11: the sport, I'm sure you've seen great quarterback play New

2825
02:31:51,640 --> 02:31:54,040
Speaker 11: Yorker quarterback play, and bad quarterback play. You've seen all

2826
02:31:54,120 --> 02:31:57,959
Speaker 11: three and yeah, and to me, justin Fields and obviously

2827
02:31:58,040 --> 02:32:00,760
Speaker 11: the NFL scouts agreed with me. I used to argue

2828
02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:02,879
Speaker 11: to the top of the hill, with too many people

2829
02:32:02,920 --> 02:32:05,640
Speaker 11: to count, I just in Field must have photos of

2830
02:32:05,920 --> 02:32:09,800
Speaker 11: like NFL fans compromising positions because they would defend this

2831
02:32:09,879 --> 02:32:11,840
Speaker 11: guy like he was Patrick Mahomes and I'm like, I

2832
02:32:11,879 --> 02:32:12,920
Speaker 11: don't know what you're seeing.

2833
02:32:13,360 --> 02:32:14,080
Speaker 9: This guy stinks.

2834
02:32:14,760 --> 02:32:16,720
Speaker 11: I mean, he's a great athlete, a brilliant athlete, but

2835
02:32:16,760 --> 02:32:20,520
Speaker 11: he's thought, you know, he doesn't comprehend the game, like

2836
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:22,400
Speaker 11: you know, he doesn't have the present process the game

2837
02:32:22,440 --> 02:32:24,400
Speaker 11: the way some of these other great quarterbacks too. And

2838
02:32:24,440 --> 02:32:27,320
Speaker 11: no offense to him, he just doesn't. And you put

2839
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:30,920
Speaker 11: Call Williams there with Douza, who I loved getting at nine,

2840
02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:34,879
Speaker 11: Keenan Allen and DJ Moore. I'm going to argue, Jeff

2841
02:32:34,959 --> 02:32:38,119
Speaker 11: that you could make the argument that third receiver group

2842
02:32:38,320 --> 02:32:41,640
Speaker 11: with comedic tight end is top three in the NFL.

2843
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:44,800
Speaker 11: And I'm always liked Swift. I don't know if Anthony

2844
02:32:44,920 --> 02:32:46,480
Speaker 11: brees with me. He may not be as high on

2845
02:32:46,560 --> 02:32:47,920
Speaker 11: him as I was. I always thought he was a

2846
02:32:47,959 --> 02:32:50,199
Speaker 11: good player. I thought he played very well for the Eagles.

2847
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:52,879
Speaker 11: I think he's at least a solid, you know, at

2848
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:56,200
Speaker 11: least average running back and I don't. And so to

2849
02:32:56,320 --> 02:33:00,520
Speaker 11: me having that skill set what they have and you

2850
02:33:00,520 --> 02:33:02,440
Speaker 11: actually have the have quarterbacks, and he actually passed the

2851
02:33:02,480 --> 02:33:05,200
Speaker 11: ball forward and not just relying with athleticism to run

2852
02:33:05,280 --> 02:33:07,520
Speaker 11: the ball. I like the Bears over eight half and

2853
02:33:07,560 --> 02:33:09,720
Speaker 11: I got over more ten. It's chumped up from my

2854
02:33:09,879 --> 02:33:12,959
Speaker 11: minus one forty area minus one fifty. I still think

2855
02:33:12,959 --> 02:33:14,840
Speaker 11: the Bears. I actually liked him with a long shot

2856
02:33:14,959 --> 02:33:17,120
Speaker 11: too well. And he wouldn't even shock make thing win

2857
02:33:17,160 --> 02:33:17,560
Speaker 11: the division.

2858
02:33:18,520 --> 02:33:21,480
Speaker 9: I love it. We're up against it at Brad's Best

2859
02:33:21,680 --> 02:33:25,160
Speaker 9: bet dot Com, Brad's Best Be's dot Com. He's the

2860
02:33:25,240 --> 02:33:27,640
Speaker 9: best of the industry, the best you have. I got

2861
02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:28,480
Speaker 9: like twenty seconds.

2862
02:33:28,480 --> 02:33:29,960
Speaker 11: You have anything, ye, I'll make it quick, brother, I'll

2863
02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:32,200
Speaker 11: make it quick. Anthony, I did. I had a slight

2864
02:33:32,320 --> 02:33:34,760
Speaker 11: day for me. I took Andrew Rabbit Read under three

2865
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:37,040
Speaker 11: and a half runs minus a dollar thirty five twenty

2866
02:33:37,080 --> 02:33:38,920
Speaker 11: two and five to the under of his career twenty

2867
02:33:38,959 --> 02:33:42,040
Speaker 11: two and five, and our olatily friend Anthony Ranger Suarez

2868
02:33:42,480 --> 02:33:44,040
Speaker 11: under two and a half roun six and oh this

2869
02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:45,840
Speaker 11: year ten and was last ten of the under at one.

2870
02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:48,480
Speaker 11: Lare Mookie Betts to get an RBI plus one eighty.

2871
02:33:48,640 --> 02:33:50,400
Speaker 11: I made the number closer to plus one fifty.

2872
02:33:51,440 --> 02:33:53,920
Speaker 9: Love it, I love it, Brad's That's that's great stuff.

2873
02:33:53,959 --> 02:33:57,760
Speaker 9: We'll come right back, yes, Schwarz, Anthony Guargatam the Fellaws.

2874
02:33:59,440 --> 02:34:00,280
Speaker 3: We'll go back again.

2875
02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:04,800
Speaker 4: We were the Fellows live from the Tiraq dot Com studios. Antony,

2876
02:34:05,000 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 4: we made it work, buddy, we made it work.

2877
02:34:09,560 --> 02:34:13,080
Speaker 9: Thanks to you. Great stuff. Jeff my uh for those

2878
02:34:13,120 --> 02:34:14,760
Speaker 9: people just tune it in if I sound a little

2879
02:34:14,959 --> 02:34:16,520
Speaker 9: odd like I'm on the phone, because I am on

2880
02:34:16,600 --> 02:34:21,720
Speaker 9: the phone. My uh, my equipment just zo's out like

2881
02:34:21,879 --> 02:34:25,880
Speaker 9: it is, like crackled, and it was uh and it

2882
02:34:26,040 --> 02:34:28,960
Speaker 9: was dead. So we made it work on the phone

2883
02:34:29,040 --> 02:34:33,120
Speaker 9: thanks to uh, of course, Mighty Mark and Mighty Ian

2884
02:34:33,800 --> 02:34:38,280
Speaker 9: who the guys did such a great job producing this thing.

2885
02:34:38,400 --> 02:34:41,560
Speaker 9: And I gotta tell you, Jeff, I thoroughly enjoyed hanging

2886
02:34:41,600 --> 02:34:45,280
Speaker 9: with you, That's for sure. Now I gotta go and

2887
02:34:45,440 --> 02:34:47,480
Speaker 9: do what You're in? What North Carolina?

2888
02:34:47,600 --> 02:34:49,040
Speaker 3: Where are you at Charlotte?

2889
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:52,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, You're at Charlotte, right, Yeah, So I gotta get

2890
02:34:53,840 --> 02:34:59,039
Speaker 9: I gotta get down there because I need some homemade gumba. Dude.

2891
02:34:59,040 --> 02:35:01,200
Speaker 3: I I'm in man, like I said. I made it.

2892
02:35:01,320 --> 02:35:04,080
Speaker 4: My My wife and kids went skiing over a Christmas break.

2893
02:35:04,120 --> 02:35:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm too fat to ski, so I I skipped that activity.

2894
02:35:08,360 --> 02:35:10,360
Speaker 4: I just made food for like four days in a row.

2895
02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:13,560
Speaker 3: It was at the time of my life. We had

2896
02:35:13,640 --> 02:35:14,360
Speaker 3: just gotten a dog.

2897
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:18,040
Speaker 4: I just sat at home with a puppy and just

2898
02:35:18,480 --> 02:35:23,320
Speaker 4: made I made dumbo, I made multiple soup.

2899
02:35:24,520 --> 02:35:25,279
Speaker 9: I made.

2900
02:35:26,560 --> 02:35:27,160
Speaker 3: What's I make?

2901
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:31,160
Speaker 4: I think I smoked some ribs and those are three

2902
02:35:31,160 --> 02:35:33,240
Speaker 4: meals I made. I made something else too, I can't remember.

2903
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:38,840
Speaker 4: I just spent like the entire like four days watching

2904
02:35:38,959 --> 02:35:42,000
Speaker 4: football and making whatever I wanted to eat for four days.

2905
02:35:42,680 --> 02:35:46,160
Speaker 3: It's basically was basically was hanging out, hanging out with

2906
02:35:46,200 --> 02:35:46,560
Speaker 3: a puppy.

2907
02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:55,000
Speaker 9: It's beautiful, dad. Yeah, and the winner, Oh my god,

2908
02:35:55,120 --> 02:35:55,840
Speaker 9: how great was that?

2909
02:35:56,480 --> 02:36:00,880
Speaker 4: It was delicious? I yes, I did that Montsa ball soup.

2910
02:36:00,920 --> 02:36:02,160
Speaker 4: I just made it last week for Passover.

2911
02:36:02,240 --> 02:36:02,920
Speaker 3: It's it's not that.

2912
02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:06,720
Speaker 4: It's not you're looking about about cooking, guys, it's really

2913
02:36:07,879 --> 02:36:10,800
Speaker 4: things sounding like making a soup from scratch sounds intimidating, right,

2914
02:36:10,800 --> 02:36:12,879
Speaker 4: You make the chicken, you make the stalk like, it's

2915
02:36:13,000 --> 02:36:14,040
Speaker 4: really not that bad.

2916
02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:15,280
Speaker 3: Like pizza.

2917
02:36:15,360 --> 02:36:18,080
Speaker 4: Pizza sounds intimidating. To make the dough, it's so easy, Like,

2918
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:22,320
Speaker 4: it's not that hard to make in my opinion. Now,

2919
02:36:22,320 --> 02:36:24,040
Speaker 4: obviously I like to cook and I'm good at it,

2920
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:27,800
Speaker 4: but like to make really good homemade food. A lot

2921
02:36:27,840 --> 02:36:30,840
Speaker 4: of things that might scare you to make are very

2922
02:36:30,959 --> 02:36:33,800
Speaker 4: like like broth is very easy. You take a chicken

2923
02:36:34,400 --> 02:36:36,520
Speaker 4: or you have it cut up for you, you bake

2924
02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:39,800
Speaker 4: it for twenty minutes with some onions, some celery and

2925
02:36:39,879 --> 02:36:42,240
Speaker 4: some carrots and maybe some garlic, and you throw it

2926
02:36:42,320 --> 02:36:44,720
Speaker 4: in a pot, cover with water and.

2927
02:36:45,200 --> 02:36:46,240
Speaker 3: Cook it for four hours.

2928
02:36:46,320 --> 02:36:48,879
Speaker 4: Like it's not that hard to do. Add some salt,

2929
02:36:48,959 --> 02:36:52,640
Speaker 4: some pepper, maybe some dial some lemon. You cloudy, you

2930
02:36:52,720 --> 02:36:55,720
Speaker 4: put lemon in there. But I think people think of

2931
02:36:56,040 --> 02:36:58,760
Speaker 4: making stuff at home sometimes and get intimidated by it.

2932
02:36:58,879 --> 02:37:01,520
Speaker 4: It's not that even gumbo, it's not that bad, not

2933
02:37:01,640 --> 02:37:01,960
Speaker 4: that hard.

2934
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:05,200
Speaker 9: Oh my god. So uh, Jeff just sent me a

2935
02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:08,640
Speaker 9: picture of his gumbo. Yeah, and it should be in

2936
02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:14,360
Speaker 9: a magazine. I mean, could be the party.

2937
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:17,640
Speaker 4: I started that rude by hand for twenty minutes, a

2938
02:37:17,640 --> 02:37:21,280
Speaker 4: buddy just standing up there doing it. The rule is

2939
02:37:21,320 --> 02:37:21,840
Speaker 4: what matters.

2940
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:27,120
Speaker 9: Oh the shrimp, I'm looking at the crab. It looks great.

2941
02:37:27,200 --> 02:37:29,360
Speaker 9: The scallions. Put a crab.

2942
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:34,039
Speaker 4: It's oh yeah, it's crab, crab, shrimp, sausage and chicken.

2943
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:34,480
Speaker 4: I did all.

2944
02:37:34,520 --> 02:37:36,600
Speaker 3: I'm a a like a meat lover's gumbo.

2945
02:37:38,600 --> 02:37:41,040
Speaker 4: I got the I got the I got the the

2946
02:37:41,160 --> 02:37:43,480
Speaker 4: fela in there, and which you don't, you know, you

2947
02:37:43,600 --> 02:37:45,040
Speaker 4: really use with meat gumbo.

2948
02:37:45,160 --> 02:37:47,200
Speaker 3: But I did the. I did the whole thing.

2949
02:37:47,440 --> 02:37:50,320
Speaker 4: Uh So maybe today you know we have we have

2950
02:37:50,440 --> 02:37:53,000
Speaker 4: some thunder storms today, we'll get rained out, probably for baseball,

2951
02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:54,560
Speaker 4: so I might stay at home and just cook all day.

2952
02:37:56,000 --> 02:37:56,760
Speaker 3: The Derby Feast.

2953
02:37:58,040 --> 02:38:02,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's the Derby Feast. I think it's brilliant. I

2954
02:38:02,680 --> 02:38:04,720
Speaker 9: wish I could get a flight down there quick enough.

2955
02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:11,320
Speaker 9: Oh man, So just to put a deep boat on

2956
02:38:11,400 --> 02:38:15,840
Speaker 9: this thing. What do you think in about tonight tonight's game?

2957
02:38:16,120 --> 02:38:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I I like wagering on first quarters in

2958
02:38:20,480 --> 02:38:23,240
Speaker 4: the NBA playoffs because I think the teams like the

2959
02:38:23,320 --> 02:38:25,400
Speaker 4: Nuggets are going to come out in the first quarter

2960
02:38:25,400 --> 02:38:27,560
Speaker 4: of this game at home tonight and try to like

2961
02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:31,240
Speaker 4: establish dominance. And so I took them to win the

2962
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:33,400
Speaker 4: to win the first quarter, essentially to cover a point

2963
02:38:33,400 --> 02:38:38,520
Speaker 4: a half the first quarter tonight. I still lean Denver game.

2964
02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:39,119
Speaker 3: One at home.

2965
02:38:39,320 --> 02:38:41,840
Speaker 4: I think that they're gonna take this one, and then

2966
02:38:41,879 --> 02:38:45,120
Speaker 4: adjustments we made. I'll probably take the Timberwolves a game too.

2967
02:38:45,120 --> 02:38:48,040
Speaker 4: I think Nuggets win this series in six, though I

2968
02:38:48,160 --> 02:38:48,800
Speaker 4: still lean.

2969
02:38:48,800 --> 02:38:53,879
Speaker 9: Nuggets Nuggets in six. I like it. I'm gonna I'm

2970
02:38:53,879 --> 02:38:57,600
Speaker 9: gonna go opposite. I'll take the key Wolves. I think

2971
02:38:57,680 --> 02:38:59,240
Speaker 9: the ty Wolves are going to win.

2972
02:39:00,480 --> 02:39:02,760
Speaker 3: It's a great Nuggets.

2973
02:39:02,920 --> 02:39:04,320
Speaker 4: This has been the Fellas take care e ofyone, have

2974
02:39:04,360 --> 02:39:04,920
Speaker 4: a great weekend,