WEBVTT - The Mark Moss Show Oct 13, 2021

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<v Speaker 1>All right, welcome back. You are listening to the Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Moa show where I talk about bitcoin, cryptocurrencies and the

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized revolution, giving you the information that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of the biggest wealth transfer that we'll ever see. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the break, I was talking about UM, the Federal Reserve,

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about the Central Bank. I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about government's talking about the debt ceiling UM and how

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<v Speaker 1>every couple years we get this song and dance about

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<v Speaker 1>the debt ceiling, And then I was going into what

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<v Speaker 1>more debt means, specifically in regards to your wealth, how

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<v Speaker 1>you build wealth um, and then of course how that

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<v Speaker 1>is a driver to bitcoin. So I was asking the question, um,

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<v Speaker 1>our US home prices expensive or cheap right now? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you the answer to that. So

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to that is, actually, first you have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask a different question, Our U s home price is

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<v Speaker 1>expensive or cheap compared to what, but also more importantly

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<v Speaker 1>priced in what now? Remember I said that before the break,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that the value you of your home hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gone up. The value of the dollar went down, so

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<v Speaker 1>it takes more dollars to buy the home today. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I say our U S home price is cheap

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<v Speaker 1>or expensive than I would say, priced in what well,

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<v Speaker 1>priced in US dollars, which, of course we dominant denominate

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<v Speaker 1>everything in US dollars. If you're in the U S

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<v Speaker 1>and even most of the world priced in US dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>homes have never been more expensive. Okay, that's the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>They're more expensive. But what if we priced them in

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<v Speaker 1>something else? Because remember, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is a trade. If I go to the store,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to trade them my dollars for their product.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, if we're trading stocks or trading cryptocurrencies, I

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<v Speaker 1>might trade one Ethereum token for a light coin token,

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<v Speaker 1>or one Ethereum token for a bitcoin token, or one

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<v Speaker 1>light coin for a bitcoin and so everything's a trade, right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like like a barter system. Money is the piece

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. So if I price it in dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>it's never been more expensive. But what if I price

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<v Speaker 1>it in something else? So if we go back, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>before the break I was talking about, the gold standard

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<v Speaker 1>got severed in nineteen seventy one, so we started printing

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of chillions dollars after that. So if we go

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen seventy. The year before that happened, the median

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<v Speaker 1>home price was worth about um, shoot, I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>had that exact number. I think it was worth about

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<v Speaker 1>about forty dollars um. Today the median home price is

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<v Speaker 1>worth about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, So in

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<v Speaker 1>U S dollars it's way more expensive. But in nineteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>the median home price was about forty dollars. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was also six hundred and forty six ounces of gold. Well, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if I was gonna buy it in gold would be

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six ounces. Today it's a hundred and ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>ounces of gold. Hm hmmm. So you're saying, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was just storing my my wealth and gold, homes are

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<v Speaker 1>actually cheaper. They're actually less than half the price they

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<v Speaker 1>used to be. Yep, that's what I'm saying. Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>about something else? Well, what if in nineteen seventy, what

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<v Speaker 1>if I stored my wealth and oil. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people buy oil, I own oil I own. Actually I'm

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<v Speaker 1>part of an oil field, and I'm a GP in

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<v Speaker 1>an oil field. Um, so what if I store my

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<v Speaker 1>wealth in oil? Well, in nineteen seventy was six thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred of oil for the mediat home price. Today

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<v Speaker 1>in two it's four thousand six, so it's not quite

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<v Speaker 1>half the price, but it's still much cheaper in oil. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I used rice? What if I'm a rice

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<v Speaker 1>farmer and I store my wealth and rice. Well, in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy was forty three thousand tons of rice, and

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<v Speaker 1>today it's twenty seven thousand pounds or tons of rice,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's actually gotten cheaper. Homes are cheaper in rice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's stupid, mark. Nobody's going to store their wealth and

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<v Speaker 1>oil or gold, I guess. So what about I store

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<v Speaker 1>my wealth in the in the SMP five hundred in

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<v Speaker 1>the stock market? Okay, Well, in nineteen seventy it would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken two hundred and forty three shares of the

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<v Speaker 1>SMP five hundred, and in two thousand twenty one it

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<v Speaker 1>takes eighty shares of five So I would ask you

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<v Speaker 1>the question again, our homes expensive or cheap? Today? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>look at bitcoin. Now, um in bitcoin hasn't been around

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen seventy, but we can look at the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand ten price. So in two thousand ten it was

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and seventy three thousand bitcoin to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>house the median home price UM today in two one

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten ten bitcoin. So again our homes cheaper expensive

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<v Speaker 1>priced in what and so um. Two things that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that you get out of this one what you

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<v Speaker 1>store your wealth in matters, and it matters big time,

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<v Speaker 1>as you can tell now to show you an example

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<v Speaker 1>of that, in nineteen seventy it took fifty one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of oranges to buy the median home price. Today

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<v Speaker 1>it's two eighty thousand. So in dollars and oranges, homes

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<v Speaker 1>have never been more expensive. But in gold, oil, smp F,

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<v Speaker 1>rice and bitcoin they've never been cheaper. And if you're

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<v Speaker 1>holding bitcoin, they have they've never been I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>was seven almost three quarters of a million bitcoin ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago and today it's ten. And so what you

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<v Speaker 1>store your wealth and matters. And also I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>show hoping to your kitchen catching on here that the

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<v Speaker 1>more dollars the government and the central banks print, the

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<v Speaker 1>more they raise the debt ceiling, the less your dollars

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<v Speaker 1>can buy, the less they're worth. They're worth less, worthless, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they continue to buy more and more and more, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you need to start looking at things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you store your wealth matters. And so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately in the poorer right, you're getting poorer and poor

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<v Speaker 1>while the rich get richer and richer. Um, you've probably

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<v Speaker 1>seen the headlines. I mean, they're they're trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>everybody divided against each other. So everybody's against their their

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<v Speaker 1>their counterpart at these days, and so there's this attack

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<v Speaker 1>on the rich, and so you know, everyone's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the rich have profited since the pandemic, and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the top one percent and have gained a trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of wealth and blah blah blah. Well, if you would

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<v Speaker 1>also own the same assets that they owned, then your

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<v Speaker 1>wealth would have gone up by the same percentage. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the dollar amount would be less, obviously because it's a percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>So if i'm you know, if i'm if I'm if

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have as much money and I have a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars invested and goes up by you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>hunter bucks, if I have a hundred million invested at

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<v Speaker 1>the ten per cent is a different number. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point is is that you need to get your storage

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<v Speaker 1>where you store your money out of dollars and you

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<v Speaker 1>need to invest them like the rich. So that as

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed continues to print more dollars, as they continue

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<v Speaker 1>to put more money in, as those dollars continue to

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<v Speaker 1>lose their purchasing power, your purchasing power will be going up.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that kind of rounds it out with the

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<v Speaker 1>debt ceiling. Hopefully that that brings some clarity. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to the markma Show where I talk about bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about cryptocurrencies, I talk about the decentralized revolution

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on, trying to bring you each and every

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<v Speaker 1>week the asymmetric information that you need so you can

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<v Speaker 1>play the biggest opportunity asymmetric oportunity will ever see in

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<v Speaker 1>our lifetime. So, um, I was talking about the debt

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling and how the government is uh squabbling over this.

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<v Speaker 1>Will they raise it? Will they not? Of course I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure they will. They always do, and so that

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the big drivers on bitcoin. Now what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about this A little side note is there was

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<v Speaker 1>a video that came out from President Biden, and President

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<v Speaker 1>Biden said, you don't he was there talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure Bild. Why are you trying to get a three

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<v Speaker 1>point five trillion dollar infrastructure built together when we can't

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<v Speaker 1>even pay the debt. And he said, I'll somewhat paraphrase it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, let me be clear. He always likes

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<v Speaker 1>to say that. Let me be clear. Um, the debt

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<v Speaker 1>ceiling is not about the infrastructure spending. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>raise the debt ceiling so we can take on more

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<v Speaker 1>debt so we can pay off the old debt, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>It has nothing to do with the infrastructure we need.

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't raise the debt ceiling in the U,

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<v Speaker 1>S could lose this credit. And so we need to

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<v Speaker 1>raise the debt take on more debt to pay the

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<v Speaker 1>old debt, which, if I'm not mistaken, is literally the

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<v Speaker 1>definition of a Ponzi scheme, um, which sounds like what

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden was explaining. As a matter of fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>definition of a Ponzi scheme is just that it's an

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<v Speaker 1>investment fraud that pays existing investors with funds collected from

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<v Speaker 1>new investors. That's the definition. I'm reading it word for

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<v Speaker 1>word from you right here. So it's a scheme that

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<v Speaker 1>pays new investors with funds old investors, existing investors with

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<v Speaker 1>funds collected from new investors. So when President Biden says

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<v Speaker 1>we need to increase the debt limit, not for new spending,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to increase it so we can pay off

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<v Speaker 1>our existing debt. That's like you going to UH American

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<v Speaker 1>Express or Visa and saying, I need a new credit

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<v Speaker 1>card so I can pay my old credit cards. The

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<v Speaker 1>chance of them giving you that credit is probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to be pretty slim. And so that's the situation that

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<v Speaker 1>we're that we're in, and I think more and more

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<v Speaker 1>people are starting to wake up to at They're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize that the financial system is over indebted. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the Titanic. It's it's a sinking ship. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's taking on water. There's no way to patch it

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<v Speaker 1>right now, unfortunately. Um, the only option for the Titanic

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<v Speaker 1>is the sink. And that's horrible. But you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the Titanic as it's sinking. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get onto a lifeboat. And that's what bitcoin provides. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. I'm gonna show you some other

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<v Speaker 1>factors that are pushing bitcoin when I get back. You're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the Mark Moss Show, and I'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>with more on bitcoin. All right, you are back listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the Mark Moa show where I talk about bitcoin.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about cryptocurrencies. I talk about the decentralized revolution

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening. And I don't just talk about what they are. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to tell you why. That's kind of my approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why does it matter? Why do we care, why

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to buy it? Why do we expect

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<v Speaker 1>the price to go up in value? And all those

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<v Speaker 1>other things. Before the break, I was talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>debt ceiling. I was explaining how the more DA dollars

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<v Speaker 1>that are created, the less they buy. The purchasing power

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<v Speaker 1>goes down, and what you store your wealth in matters.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the difference between the rich and the poor. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The rich store their wealth in assets, and as the

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<v Speaker 1>Fed prints money, those assets go open value. The poor

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<v Speaker 1>don't buy assets. They work for wages, and those wages

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<v Speaker 1>continue to buy less and less and less because of

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<v Speaker 1>the central banks continually printing more money. So that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big one. As a matter of fact, really, the Federal

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<v Speaker 1>Reserve is what's driving everything today. So we look at

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<v Speaker 1>any of the markets and that's really what's causing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's some other catalysts that happened. That's that's big,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a little bit smaller than that. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of coming down a little bit off of

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<v Speaker 1>that um this this week we saw some big news. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been with me since we started the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember I talked about when we buy something like

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins and something like a new technology like this, there's

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<v Speaker 1>really there's two indicators that we're trying to watch. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the price, the short term price can be a distraction,

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<v Speaker 1>and so what we really want to look at is

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<v Speaker 1>two things. One are the network effects growing more people

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<v Speaker 1>using it, because the more people use it, the more

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth. And then we also want to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the development that's happened on it. And so some big

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<v Speaker 1>news came out this week that I think actually checks

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<v Speaker 1>both of those boxes. Now, the news actually came out

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<v Speaker 1>several months ago, but today the news is actually coming true.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what that big news is is that the

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<v Speaker 1>banking system, so we're talking about you know, Bank of America, Wells, Fargo, JP, Morgan, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>They're seeing people pulling their money out of the banks

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<v Speaker 1>and then going and buying bitcoin and cryptocurrencies with it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're seeing people why are money from their banks over

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<v Speaker 1>to coin base or or cracking or whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>And guess what, they don't really like that. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep your money in the bank. They don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to send your money somewhere else. And so they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're recognizing this. Now. The thing about a banking relationship

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<v Speaker 1>is it's what we would call sticky. UM. That means

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<v Speaker 1>that once you set up a bank account and you

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<v Speaker 1>establish a andcy relationship, you typically keep it right, you stay,

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<v Speaker 1>you stay in it. UM. I know that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>with Bank of America. I'm sorry. I've been with Wells

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<v Speaker 1>Fargo since I got my very first bank account. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't particularly like them. I've they've been accused, not

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<v Speaker 1>just accused, but they've paid out the largest settlements for wrongdoing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're probably not the best bank to be with.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, for me to go close my

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<v Speaker 1>accounts and go upen new ones, this is too much, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's sticky. They have me. But if I pull my

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<v Speaker 1>money out and I start using Cracking as a bank,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can hold bitcoin and I can send them

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<v Speaker 1>receive payments and dollars and all those things. Then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably never come back once I make the switch, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>never come back. So the banks recognize this and they shoot, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to do something, So, um, why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>offer cryptocurrencies inside the bank, Like we already have their money?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we let them pull it out and send

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<v Speaker 1>us them world? Why don't we just sell them cryptocurrencies

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<v Speaker 1>inside of her? And so that's exactly what is happening. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a company called night digg and my d I

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<v Speaker 1>G nightgg and they announced a few months ago. Um

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<v Speaker 1>they run back off the services for banks, and then

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<v Speaker 1>anouked a couple of months ago that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to UM work with I think it was three hundred banks,

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<v Speaker 1>which service like three hundred million checking accounts. Is it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a few months I report on this, but a

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<v Speaker 1>few hundred million checking accounts would have access to buy, sell,

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<v Speaker 1>and store cryptocurrencies right in their checking account. Now, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be bad for the coin bases and the

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<v Speaker 1>crackings of the world. It's good for the banks because

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<v Speaker 1>they keep their custody um or their customer. But the

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<v Speaker 1>big winner, of course is the cryptocurrency acid itself. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about adoption. Remember Metcalf's law we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>when we first opened up, and so, um, they announced

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<v Speaker 1>that that was going to take the place, and they

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<v Speaker 1>said that they would do that before the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Now, I talked to many of the insiders

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<v Speaker 1>I have inside the banks, and they told me they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think it was going to happen. Um, They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know how slow banks move. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they're literally gonna be able to do this inside of

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<v Speaker 1>six months, like change the whole system around. And I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of believed them, you know, It's like, well, they

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<v Speaker 1>announced it, they said they're going to do by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the year. But yeah, you're right, Like banks

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<v Speaker 1>can't even update their their their computer networks, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably gonna do it. Well, we were both wrong

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense because this week we saw US Bank

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<v Speaker 1>launch their bitcoin custody service um and to and to

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<v Speaker 1>cater to these cryptocurrencies. So US Bank is the fifth

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<v Speaker 1>biggest retail bank in the nation, and on Tuesday they

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<v Speaker 1>announced that their crypto cryptocurrency custody service is now available

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<v Speaker 1>to fund managers. Now, at first, it's just available to

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<v Speaker 1>fund managers of course, this will come as they get

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<v Speaker 1>the bugs worked out, the kinks worked out, litrical, this

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<v Speaker 1>down to everybody else and so UM. They announced it

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<v Speaker 1>a few months ago, they said they'd be done by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, and here it is. We're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing at the fifth biggest retail bank in the nation

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<v Speaker 1>has done that. UM. And so they're offering help for

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<v Speaker 1>investment managers to store their private keys for Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash,

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<v Speaker 1>and lightcoin UM. Those are the three coins that they

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<v Speaker 1>started with right now. UM. They said that they will

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<v Speaker 1>try to support other coins UM over time, but for

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it's just those And like I said, for

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it's just to cater to institutional investors UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, as they get this program going, it will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to UM to spread down to the lower level. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's important about this is that there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>institutional investors fund managers who have not been buying bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>because of the custody solution. So if you're not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with what I'm talking about, let me explain custody for

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<v Speaker 1>just a minute. Now. UM. You are listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>markma Show where I talk about bitcoin, cryptocurrencies and the

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized revolution and UM. The The unique thing about bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>compared to any other asset in the world is that

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<v Speaker 1>I can take custody of it. So um, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if I buy gold, I can take custody

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<v Speaker 1>of gold, and so I can put that in my bank.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why gold has been good money for

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand years. Um. When I old gold in my

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<v Speaker 1>own safe, or I bury it in the ground, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a map for or whatever. Um, when I hold

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<v Speaker 1>the gold, I have it. Right. It's like a custody

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<v Speaker 1>is nine tenths of the law or something right, So

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<v Speaker 1>like I own it. Um. When I own a stock,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, so I own a share of apple stock,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say, um, and it's in my E trade account. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually own apple stock. And this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal, and it doesn't seem like a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal at first, But what that means is that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually own the apple stock. The apple stock

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<v Speaker 1>is owed to me. So so E Trade, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>would owe me the apple stock. So I own an

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<v Speaker 1>I owe you, not the stock. The reason why that's

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<v Speaker 1>important is because legally I don't actually own it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>owed to me. And that means that if they you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go bankrupt or something like that. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>give it to me. They could default on the debt

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<v Speaker 1>that they owe to me. Versus, if I hold gold

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<v Speaker 1>in my safe, there's no counterparty. Nobody is that to me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the big thing. That is what's revolution right now.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with stocks is that UM each trade doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>own the stock either, it's owed the stocked by somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>which is stocked by somebody else. And there's about six

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<v Speaker 1>layers in between the company Apple and myself. There's about

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<v Speaker 1>six people that each have a liability and an asset

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So if anybody in that chain

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<v Speaker 1>were to um, you know, find become insolvent, whatever, then

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<v Speaker 1>all of those people lose that asset UM. But bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>is more like gold where it allows me to take

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<v Speaker 1>custody of that asset with no counterparty. Another reason why

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<v Speaker 1>it's different than gold is that it's also portable. So

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<v Speaker 1>having a lot of gold is very difficult to take

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<v Speaker 1>a round with you. So I want to explain what

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<v Speaker 1>US bank is doing to help customers on board with custody,

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<v Speaker 1>and why this is coming for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>banks UM, and why this is about to explode user

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<v Speaker 1>adoption throughout the country. Now, this is a trend that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to what we call front run. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to get in front of it because when that herd

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<v Speaker 1>comes in, you want to be already in position. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that as soon as I get back.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Mark Moss Show where I

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<v Speaker 1>talk about bitcoin, cryptocurrencies, the decentralized Revolution. Here with Mark Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be right back. All right, Welcome back. You

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<v Speaker 1>are with Mark Moss listening to the Mark mass Show

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<v Speaker 1>where I talk about h and every week I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Bitcoin, I talked about cryptocurrencies, I talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>decentralized revolution. It is literally the biggest opportunity. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest wealth transfer that you will ever see, will

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<v Speaker 1>ever see anyone in our lifetime, will ever see. The

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<v Speaker 1>way to take advantage of it and not get shaken

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<v Speaker 1>out by is to have this information that I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>could literally be life changing information that I give to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Lookay and my name is Mark Moss. Uh. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, give me a follow. It's one Mark Moss.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, one Mark Moss on Twitter. UM at me,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, send me a question. I'd love to get

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<v Speaker 1>your questions. I'll answer them on the next episode next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and shoot that over to me. If anything

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is causing some curiosity and you have some questions,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure to send them to me and I'll answer

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<v Speaker 1>them next week. Now, we were talking before the break

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<v Speaker 1>about UM this institutional adoption that's coming. And remember if

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been with me since the beginning of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about when you're investing into something new, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're buying a new UM, something new like bitcoin, and

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<v Speaker 1>I used real estate as an example, UM to ignore

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<v Speaker 1>the short term price that's a distraction and instead look

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<v Speaker 1>at two things. And that was one the network effects

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<v Speaker 1>and to the development. And so what we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>right now is both of those things. So now banks

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<v Speaker 1>around in the United States are now starting to offer

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoin custody in the bank. So that's gonna both the

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<v Speaker 1>two things. One the bank's offering that is development and

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<v Speaker 1>then offering it to their customers. Brings on more customers,

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<v Speaker 1>which is more network effects, so it hits both of

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<v Speaker 1>those at the same time. Now, I was explaining how

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to offer custody and what custody meant and

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<v Speaker 1>how UM the revolutionary thing about bitcoin is that allows

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<v Speaker 1>me to hold custody of it myself, so there's no

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<v Speaker 1>counterparty risk, kind of like gold, except for gold is

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<v Speaker 1>very hard to move around UM and bitcoin is digital

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<v Speaker 1>and so it makes it easy to do that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the problem the good that that's the revolutionary thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the custody, but it can become complicated when you're

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with businesses or hedge funds or institutions and things

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So for me, my family, me personally, I

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<v Speaker 1>want my keys, I want custody of my bitcoin. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want any counterparty risk to that. But let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm a business, Let's say that I'm a public entity.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say I'm a hedge fund. Who is going to

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<v Speaker 1>hold that key? Who, like you, don't want to give

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<v Speaker 1>it to one guy. We've seen instances where that one

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<v Speaker 1>guy has died and uh no, no one else in

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<v Speaker 1>the company or the fund of the exchange knows where

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<v Speaker 1>the key is and it's just gone could be I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in one case in Canada like two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>was like fifty million dollars just disappeared. He died and

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<v Speaker 1>that was it, and so that could be a big problem. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want a way where um, a bad actor,

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<v Speaker 1>right say, somebody that works for that that fund or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is malicious and then tries to steal that. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you can see on a personal level it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense to kind of have that custody, but on a

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<v Speaker 1>on a bigger corporate kind of hedge fund level, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. And so that's kind of this need that

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<v Speaker 1>that US Bank is is jumping into right off the

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<v Speaker 1>bat by offering to the institutional clients. And so you're

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<v Speaker 1>this big hedge fund and you just have the bank

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<v Speaker 1>holding right. Typically the banks store your wealth, they store

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<v Speaker 1>your assets, and so they can store your bitcoin wealth,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's what they're doing. Um they think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're already safeguarding trillions of dollars of assets for money

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<v Speaker 1>managers and things like that, and so it just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of makes sense that they could now um in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to the trillions of dollars are already custody holding, they

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<v Speaker 1>can now do a cryptocurrencies as well. Now, um, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I think this is just kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>tip of the iceberg. This is kind of where it starts,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually this will be offered to all the individual

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<v Speaker 1>UM bank you know bank holders as well. Now there's

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<v Speaker 1>many bank individuals like myself that that my bank there,

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<v Speaker 1>that may want to use the bank to actually custody

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<v Speaker 1>my bitcoin, or I could take custody of it myself.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are kind of to two different options. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit there, there's pros and cons to both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think it's important to kind of understand

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<v Speaker 1>what those pros and cons are. So um, of course

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy to understand that any time I give an

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<v Speaker 1>asset anything could be my phone, could be a pen,

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<v Speaker 1>could be money. Anytime I give something to somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a risk that I don't get it back. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I give it to someone in my family, the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of me not getting it back is very very low.

0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 1>If I give it to a you know, Ponzi scheme,

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the chance of me not getting it back is very

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<v Speaker 1>very high, and so you kind of have to evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>what that risk level is. So if I give it

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody, there's risk I don't get it back. That's

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<v Speaker 1>called counter party count to party risk, and you always

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand what that is. If I a custody

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin myself, there is no counterparty risk. I have

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 1>it now, but the risk shifts now. The risk isn't

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:14.560
<v Speaker 1>in in me not getting it back. The risk is

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<v Speaker 1>can I secure it properly? So if I let if

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<v Speaker 1>I let us bank hold it, I would imagine that

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.720
<v Speaker 1>their security is top notch. I would imagine the chance

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<v Speaker 1>of them losing my money. My bitcoin is probably salimin

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 1>on the risk. The risk percentage of them losing my

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:36.480
<v Speaker 1>bitcoin is almost zero, and uh, in a lot of

0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>cases will probably have insurance if something were to happen,

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:43.680
<v Speaker 1>all right, Versus if I hold it myself, UM, I

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<v Speaker 1>use some some form of a wallet, I could lose that,

0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:50.199
<v Speaker 1>so the risk of me losing it is higher, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to kind of consider those. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's dig in a little bit deeper. Now. We've seen

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<v Speaker 1>across the world in different jurisdictions China and recently just

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<v Speaker 1>banned a bitcoin again. We've seen in Europe the ECB

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>European Central Bank, UM, they've talked about increasing regulations on cryptocurrencies.

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.159
<v Speaker 1>In the United States, they've talked about increasing regulations on cryptocurrencies,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very possible that at some point in the

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<v Speaker 1>near future, especially outside of the US, but even in

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the US, it's very possible that in the near future, UM,

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.600
<v Speaker 1>they could make it where you're not allowed to custody

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>your own cryptocurrency anymore. And so there is a potential

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:30.440
<v Speaker 1>where I let us bank hold it for me, but

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>then they never allowed me to withdraw it. They just

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<v Speaker 1>take it from you. UM. We've seen this happen UM

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>many times. So for example, UM, when Cuba was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more opened up a year or two ago,

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>there was a there's tons of stories online of people

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>that went to Cuba and while they were in Cuba

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>at their hotel, they logged into their coin base account.

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Coin based flagged that they were on a Cuban I

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<v Speaker 1>P I P address and UH locked their account and

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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get back into their account. And the only

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>way they can get access to the account again was

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<v Speaker 1>to go through the I think Secretary of State and

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.680
<v Speaker 1>get some sort of affidavit, which is like impossible to get.

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>It could take years before they ever get access to

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:08.440
<v Speaker 1>their account again. So the risk isn't them necessarily getting

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>hacked or getting stolen from them, but the risk is

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that they may not give it back to you, right,

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and that either you went to Cuba, you know, something

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>like that um or um you know, they get um

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.280
<v Speaker 1>some sort of a lawsuit, or the regulations change and

0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they're not allowed to let you pull that out anymore.

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Now you may think that's ridiculous, but have you ever

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>heard of Article six O two? Because Article two was

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:40.120
<v Speaker 1>passed in three and they took everybody's gold. So back

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>then gold was money. Remember I said that gold the

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>benefit of goals. I can custody it myself, but the

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 1>problem is it's hard to move around. So everybody put

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.960
<v Speaker 1>their gold in the bank, and then the bank held

0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the gold and they gave me something called a paper

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 1>gold certificate, which is now known as like a dollar,

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and that paper gold certificate represented that that gold in

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 1>the bank. But what happened is because the government couldn't

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>live within their means, they printed way too many of

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:05.239
<v Speaker 1>those paper goal certificates the dollars um. They literally had

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>to pass Article two and they shut all the banks

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<v Speaker 1>down for a week and when they reopened the banks,

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.879
<v Speaker 1>it was illegal for U. S. Citizens to own gold.

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>It was illegal, and so um, if you think it

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<v Speaker 1>may be ridiculous that the government could say that you're

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed to pull your money out anymore, um, then

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you probably haven't been studying history, because it certainly has

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<v Speaker 1>happened before. And so you just have to figure out

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:30.359
<v Speaker 1>where do you think that risk lies. Do you think

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that's ridiculous, The chance of that happened is slim to none? Okay, great,

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 1>then that's where you sign that on your risk scale.

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 1>If you're somebody who thinks that that there's a big

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>risk of that, then you need to give it more

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>risk waiting. And so you have to understand the risk

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.719
<v Speaker 1>isn't them necessarily getting it stolen from them, but they

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>may not give it back to you for those reasons.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>The flip side is that I hold it myself, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a whole different set of risks that are there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to explain to you what those are.

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>But of course there's also good ways to mitigate those

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.159
<v Speaker 1>risks that I'll explain to you as well. And this

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.040
<v Speaker 1>is someone who has literal really lost I hate to

0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>tell you. In today's dollars. I've lost over two million

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.320
<v Speaker 1>dollars in bitcoin. Now, when I lost it, it wasn't

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>worth that much, but in today's dollars it would be

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know some of these things. And I'm

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna explain to you what I did wrong. So you

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.640
<v Speaker 1>don't make those same mistakes, um, because it's it's easy

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to remedy them. You don't. You don't need to make

0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:24.439
<v Speaker 1>those mistakes like I did. Um. And as bitcoin continued

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to go up, I mean, it's at fifty five dollars today.

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, it could be at a million dollars in

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>in five or ten years from now. And even if

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:33.600
<v Speaker 1>you lost you know, ten or twenty dollars like I

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>did at the time, it could turn out to be

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>huge amounts of money. So I'm gonna explain what those

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>risks are for you holding yourself, how you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it safely, some tips and tricks that I can give you.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you're listening to the Mark mass Show.

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about bitcoin, I'm talking about cryptocurrencies. I'm giving

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>you the information you need to succeed. I'll be right

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>back everyone. Welcome back. You are listening to the Mark

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>ma Show, where I bring to you each and every

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<v Speaker 1>week the most important information that you're ever gonna hear.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is that? What is that information? Well, I'm

0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:04.960
<v Speaker 1>bringing you the most up to date, most important information

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:09.359
<v Speaker 1>on bitcoin, on cryptocurrencies, on the decentralized revolution. I am

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 1>talking about the greatest wealth transfer that will ever see.

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.359
<v Speaker 1>And you have the benefit of being born at a

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>time where you can participate. But only if you have

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>the right information. A lot of people get bad information

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:24.120
<v Speaker 1>and they think it's a joke, they think it's a scam.

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>They don't participate. But you are listening now. I'm gonna

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0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.479
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0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.080
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0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:37.879
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<v Speaker 1>number one Mark Moss on Twitter. Send me a question.

0:28:39.720 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll answer it next week. Now you were just joining in.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking about the bank in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>announced that they were going to start offering a bitcoin

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:50.160
<v Speaker 1>and cryptocurrency services to their customers. Um, we just got

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>news this week that US Bank, the fifth largest bank

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>in the United States, is now launched those services. They're

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>available and I was talking about the differences of having

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a bank or somebody else custody those, um those coins

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 1>for you, or you doing it yourself. And so I

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>just went through the risks of the bank doing it.

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna go back through that. But basically, the

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>chance of them losing them or getting stolen is probably

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>slim to none. There's very little risk there. But there

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>is risk that they may not give those back to

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>you for any number of reasons. That's called counterparty risk.

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>The other side is that I can hold them myself. Now,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>first off, what does that even mean? Right? What does

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>that even mean? So you hear about these coins, right,

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>these cryptocurrency coins? Is bitcoin kind of a thing, So

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? Well, how do I custody it myself?

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Because it's digital? Right, So it's not like I can

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>like hold it in my hand. And a lot of

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>people think it's not worth anything because I can't hold

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it in my hand. They think that, um, like gold,

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>if I if I can't hold it in my hand,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not worth anything. But of course, um, unless you've

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>been living in a rock, you understand that all types

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>of digital things have value today. So, um, what does

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 1>that mean that you hold custody of yourself. Well you

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>don't ever like you don't download them, like you don't

0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>hold coins, you don't download them. What you what you hold?

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 1>The only thing you hold is a key. So let

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:08.239
<v Speaker 1>me explain this and the best way that I can

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>over the radio. And so think about it like, um,

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>think about it like a locker system. So remember the

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.000
<v Speaker 1>old days, depending on how old you are, the old

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>days where like bus stations and airports used to have lockers, right,

0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>or maybe at your high school or whatever, you have

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>a locker. And so there's a there's a public address.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, hey, my lockers a C nineteen, go in

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>there and slip this envelope in there. I drop a

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>check in there for me locker C nineteen. That's my

0:30:32.600 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>public address. And then I have a private key that

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>allows me to go open that locker and take stuff

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>out of it. Right. And so think about the blockchain,

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>think about it in the cloud and this blockchain, and

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>think about it like this digital locker system. And so

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>you have both a public address where anybody could have

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>your bitcoin or your your blockchain public address, and anybody

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>with that public address could send you money. Um. But

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>then have a private key that allows me to open

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that locker and pull stuff out. And so the only

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.719
<v Speaker 1>thing that you ever really have is your key. Now,

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a number of ways you can hold that key. One,

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>you can download any number of apps on your smartphone. UM,

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>So right from your Android or iPhone, you could download

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>any number of apps and that would hold your private key. UM.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>That's one way. We'd call those like a hot wallet. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with those is that because it's on your phone,

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it's always connected to the Internet, and if any type

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of a hacker were to get ahold of that, they

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>could extract the extract your private key, and then empty

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>your locker. That's happened to me back in I had

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>about forty dollars US dollar at that time at the

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>current valuation UM disappear out of a wallet that I

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>had on my phone. I'm not exactly sure what happened.

0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I was in Mexico, I was at a at a

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>rental house. I was using public WiFi every day. I

0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>was putting money into my wallet, and then one day

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I logged in and it was zero. UM. And so

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that's not my favorite option. I don't do that anymore.

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I learned one time I don't do that anymore. UM.

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I do use some apps on my phone as wallets,

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 1>but I think about them like I would my wallet

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in my pocket. I don't walk around with the wallet

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>in my pocket, with my credit cards in my I

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>D I don't walk around with my life savings in that.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 1>If I were to lose my wallet, I could stop

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.240
<v Speaker 1>my credit cards. I could order your credit cards, and

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>if I had fifty bucks or a hundred bucks in there,

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing end of the world. UM. So that's the

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 1>way I look at wallets on my phone. I'll put

0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a little bits of money in there. I'm walking around

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>money I'm in I'm in El Salvador. I want to

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>buy some coffee, some lunch, I'll use that. UM. The

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>next level would be a hardware wallet, so you can

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>find those. They're like Treasure or Ledger, and they're they're

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>like a little USB device that you plug into the

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>USB on your computer and so, UM, they sign the transactions.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>So the key is stored in that device. And so

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I would say, hey, send you know, this much bitcoin

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to this address, and then it would say, okay, we'll

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 1>give us the key. So I'd plug that device in

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.959
<v Speaker 1>it would sign the transaction and unplug it. The benefit

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of that is that that key never goes onto a

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 1>computer that has Internet access, so it keeps it away

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>from any kind of hackers or malware or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the second best way to do that I

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<v Speaker 1>would use. I would use a hardware wallet. Um. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in my particular case, UM, I'm using multiple of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is that the more money you have,

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<v Speaker 1>the more you need to protect it. Right. If I

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<v Speaker 1>only have a hundred bucks, if I lose it something

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. If I have a hundred million bucks

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<v Speaker 1>and I lose it, that's a very big deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the more money you have, the more you'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to protect it. By the way, you're listening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Moa show, we're talking about bitcoin, we're talking about cryptocurrencies.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about the decentralized revolution and how you can

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<v Speaker 1>participate in the biggest opportunity you've ever seen in your lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>And so um, we're talking about securing your bitcoin and

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<v Speaker 1>now in your cryptocurrencies. And like I said, you could

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<v Speaker 1>use multiple hardware wallets and that kind of um heart

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>mentalize it or or diversifies it. Right. So let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that I had a hundred thousand dollars worth of of

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<v Speaker 1>of cryptocurrency, I could put ten thousand dollars onto ten

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<v Speaker 1>different hardware wallets and that way, if one got broken

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>or lost or stolen or or hacked or whatever, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>only gonna lose ten percent. That that might be one

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it. UM and I and I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think I run like six or seven

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<v Speaker 1>right now. But that's kind of a pain in the butt. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big drag on the other thing with the

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<v Speaker 1>hardware wallet is UM. You know, there's there's several manufacturers

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<v Speaker 1>that are out there UM, and I'm definitely not accusing

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<v Speaker 1>any of them of doing anything wrong, But what if, theoretically,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe potentially, what if UM one of the developers inside

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<v Speaker 1>one of the companies was malicious, and let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>they did build in like some back door and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wait until bitcoin hits a million dollars and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna just exit scam and just pull everybody's money out.

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<v Speaker 1>What if that happened, Well, I may not know until

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:57.879
<v Speaker 1>we get to that point, and that would be too

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<v Speaker 1>big of a risk for me. So another option, a

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<v Speaker 1>better option, This is one that I'm moving too lately

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<v Speaker 1>is something called multi signature. If you've ever watched a

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<v Speaker 1>new movies about you know, like the nuclear codes, like

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the admiral, they both have to put

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<v Speaker 1>their key in at the same time, and they both

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>have to turn at the same time. That the multi

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<v Speaker 1>signature set up, it takes two people to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you can set up a multi signature security

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<v Speaker 1>set up where you have two of three signatures required

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<v Speaker 1>or three of five are required. And so what's nice

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<v Speaker 1>about this is it would take two out of three keys,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could have three keys made by three different manufacturers.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now the chance of having that potentially malicious

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>actor inside one of those companies is irrelevant because they

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<v Speaker 1>would all three have to be at all three companies,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll have to three be accurate actively at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, which is you know, theoretically impossible. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that is a better way to do that. And

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<v Speaker 1>it also gets rid of the need to have six

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<v Speaker 1>or eight or ten different hardware wallets, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>pain in the butt. And so UM, now the risk

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<v Speaker 1>is on me. Back to the point, the risk is

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<v Speaker 1>on me to secure the bitcoin UM as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>relying on a bank or a solution to custody for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So the risk is on me now, but i've I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the risk of them not giving it back

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<v Speaker 1>to me for whatever reason. In my opinion, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger risk. I'm afraid that there might be some regulation

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that where the government banned gold um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would rather hold it myself. In addition, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go into the addition for right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it that. But I think since most people

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<v Speaker 1>are used to keeping their money in the bank, I

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<v Speaker 1>think still many people will feel comfortable keeping their bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>in the bank. I think there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who still might be skeptical on cryptocurrencies because they're this

0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>magical internet money or whatever it may be. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>once they see that their bank offers it, like I mean,

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I can buy it in JP Morgan or a Bank

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<v Speaker 1>of America. It gives it a level of legitimacy and

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<v Speaker 1>also makes it extremely easy because now instead of having

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<v Speaker 1>to go get a different account and wire money and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out how to do this, I could literally click

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<v Speaker 1>a button and buy it directly from my bank account,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is going to explode, and I've taught.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say explode, I'm talking about hundreds of millions

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<v Speaker 1>of people coming into bitcoin. And there's even more news

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<v Speaker 1>happening that's maybe even bigger than this, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that as soon as I come back. You're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to The Mark Moss Show. Hang on