1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: I also, I was thinking about this today because Santa's 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: all grayed out right, like he's fully gray from my 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I assume head to dough. I don't, I don't know. 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: You mean that's a carpet bags straight, Yeah, that's what that's. 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: He's smooth, he cleans it up before Christy Sea. Yeah, 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: she likes Maybe he has like a landing strip. Oh 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: is that? Who know? Definitely? My crop chips in your 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: qual mass are racist. Also astly money stuff I can't 9 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: tell me. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to another episode of My 10 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Mama Told Me, the podcast where we dive deep deep 11 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: into the pockets of black expiracy theories and we finally 12 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: worked to prove that Wakonda Forever is some type of 13 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: government propaganda wanting to incite the race war. Why are 14 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: we fighting the Latinos, y'all. I'm David, I'm like Snick German, 15 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: And it's a fair question, it really is. It's like 16 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: to two communities, if I'm understanding the film correctly, who 17 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: who equally are Like, Hey, we we funk with vibrating, 18 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: we got some cool ship going on. We want to 19 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: protect our people, and then they just starting each other 20 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: over it. Yet another movie where the colonizers are let 21 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: off the hook. Interesting again, it's just one nice white 22 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: man who keeps trying to help us stop fighting. No, 23 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: that's not true. Help us win our fight against the Mexicans, 24 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I believe is the theme here. How many movies is 25 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: it gonna take when we're fighting space Koreans? Then you 26 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: all see and and if you listen to this podcast, 27 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: you know very well we believe in space Koreans. Don't 28 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: you dare for a second start to oh, we're not 29 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: sure if David and lanks snarin board with space Koreans, 30 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: We're we're aware and we're on board. God damn it. 31 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: I've never been on the other side of the air horn. 32 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: It is abrasive. Yeah, no, it's it's a real upsetting 33 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: sound when you ever had one in real life, it's unpleasant, Yeah, actual, 34 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: like like the horn. That's the reason they use that 35 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: to scare off Bears. Yeah, and Jamaicans. That doesn't scare 36 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: them off, That gets them closer. No, they love the camp. Yeah, 37 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: they're they're well today. For our listeners at home, this 38 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: is a very special one of our our classics. Uh 39 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: David and Lankston episode, but more specifically, it is our 40 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: holiday special. This is our our big holiday soiree. Yes, happy, happy, 41 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: whatever whatever you do, don't yeah, whatever you into big 42 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: dog Christmas Kwanza. You know, Hank, they're all made up. 43 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: Don't don't make black people specifically made up. They're all 44 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: made up. They're all silly, little made up things. Yeah, 45 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: it's just the reason to buy something from people that 46 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: you love. And I'm okay with that. Yeah. You give 47 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: some gifts, you get some gifts, You eat in a 48 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: way that you hope nobody will ever find out about 49 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: again until next year, and you come back a different person. 50 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: That's that's really what it's all about. I'm going to white, 51 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: are you you're going to Yeah, okay, what is bachelor Christmas? 52 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: That's how you've always celebrated. It's like making movies. One 53 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: for the studios, one for me. That's what your studio. 54 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's just putting it number, putting up what 55 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: they need. But the goddamn that's where it yet. A 56 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: Marvel movie is an indie erotica A four percents. I 57 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: love it. Hey, I'm plus size, I'm a thirty four. 58 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: Give me the big ones. Well, I think we're deep 59 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: into a David and Lankston episode. Already, I feel good. 60 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: It feels good to be here. We talked and I 61 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: think we have a conspiracy theory that that both you 62 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: and I felt excited to as a holiday theme as 63 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: a as a big holiday soiree episode. This felt correct. 64 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: We said, oh, here comes Justin checking in late to 65 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: goddamn word, you're calling motherfucker our our editor. Justin showed 66 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: up hours after we began our recording, and then he disappears. 67 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: Why why are you running? What do youse though? Goddamn 68 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: afraid of? Is it because you're worried we're gonna fire you? Well, 69 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: guess what, buddy, You're on the line and I don't 70 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: even think we have that power. We don't have it. 71 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: We couldn't even begin to take your job away from you. 72 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: But but bitch, getting nervous. You know, I want everyone 73 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: to think I could fight. Uh yeah, I want the 74 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: listeners at home to know we're sick with power from 75 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm drunk on it. Our conspiracy theory today, the one 76 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: that we landed on was my mama told me seven 77 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: classes black, Yes is start kick us off? Where are 78 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: you at with this? See? I've grappled with this. I've 79 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: grappled with this for years. Whoa you know we had 80 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: a black angel on the tree. Not to brag. Oh nice, 81 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, I got it from my mom for Christmas. 82 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: Like second, oh you brought this into the home. Of 83 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: course it did. But they supported it. They were like, yeah, 84 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: spend his money on it. It can't be bad. Hell 85 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So I as much as I want black, 86 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: Santa Claus to be black, much like I want everyone 87 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: to be black, not everyone just a great guess what 88 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: better black black chat put a blanket on it. Not 89 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: a tough transition. Come on, man, it's so European to me. 90 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I just don't. It's so it's so European, and I 91 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: don't Santa Claus is yeah, And I've never heard anything 92 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: or felt anything from black and brown people that makes 93 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: it seem like Santa would be all that. I don't know, man, 94 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: it just feels like very European that you have to 95 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: have like a special guy that's gonna make you, make 96 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: you want to be nice to your family for a day. 97 00:07:54,640 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: Oh that Like even the representation like what Santa represents 98 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: for you, it is such a European thing that you're 99 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: not at all sold that he might be a black 100 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: person like I wanted. Like I said, I would like 101 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: it to be. It's the same with the Eastern Bunny. 102 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's a black guy. Wait, have 103 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: you been sitting here wanting the Easter Bunny to be 104 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: black this all time? Like I said, I never want 105 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: I never wanted thought about it. I've never thought about 106 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: the racial makeup of my Easter Bunny. And and let 107 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: me understand correctly, because because what you're implying is that 108 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: that the Easter Bundy has a black not just I 109 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: assume you're saying black fur, that that the Easter Bunny 110 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: would have black fur, or you say, no, he has 111 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: a black personality. I'm saying he smokes black and mild, 112 00:08:53,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: that he calls him yams, and he smokes red wine, 113 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: black of vials. He's the blackest of black. I like 114 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: the idea that that he's still a white Easter buddy, 115 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: but he's just got a black outline around his mouth 116 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: and all the blacks he's even smoking. His fur is 117 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: just staying black around the rim. Because yeah, it looks 118 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: like you've got dipped in varnish, but it's just the 119 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: tobacco resident he just want to put him down. Yeah. Yeah, 120 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: it looks like the walls on an old Cadillac. If 121 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: you're smoking there that let's be respectful. If you're smoking there, 122 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: stay it stays nice, So you're not You're not in 123 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: any way sold on on a black Santa Claus. No, 124 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: but I think we have to go back to for 125 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: both of us historically. What's your relationship to Santa Claus? Yeah, 126 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: I I do think that that that's important. My relationship 127 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: is a bit of a funny one in that my 128 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: dad is is an atheist and so like he has 129 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: always participated in sort of the holiday season because that's 130 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: what you do and like you are expected to sort 131 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: of do. But he's an atheist who grew up Jewish 132 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: and then is like so like Christmas never really meant 133 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: anything to him, and then had a kid with a 134 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Black Christian lady and she's like, yeah, we're doing Christmas, 135 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: holidays whatever. And I think he just became a consenting 136 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: man being like all right, yeah, I mean whatever, I 137 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: don't give a funk kind of thing. But he wasn't 138 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: Santa clausing and and sort of like going out of 139 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: his way to make this as much of like a 140 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: ho ho ho vibe as he was like playing along 141 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: inside of a game that he didn't give a funk about. Right, Yeah, 142 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, all right, this is from Santa and stuff, 143 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: but I'm not but I paid for it. Yeah, but no, 144 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean you wouldn't even say it. But he's just like, 145 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna really like, I'm not gonna change my 146 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: handwriting and put out cookies. I'm just saying he wasn't 147 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: like to be at least Santa's coming. I mean, if 148 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: he was, he just was tired of me. It wasn't. 149 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't because he like wanted my heart to stay 150 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: three sizes, you know, larger that day type ship. He 151 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: was like, you're gonna be out in the world, and 152 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: you know what the world is about. Labor Union. Yeah, 153 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: go to bed, sleepy. Yeah, well you gotta wake up. 154 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: You gotta get the rest. You could wake up and work. Yeah, no, contribute. 155 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Were you fed Santa? Did you have Santa in the home? Man? 156 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: Not really at all. So my mom's African, so it 157 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: like she didn't have it, and she was so young 158 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: when she got here that I think because I saw 159 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: her do it from my little brothers more who were 160 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: a lot younger than me. But I think by the 161 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: time she even knew that it was that big a deal, 162 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: I was already old enough to have discerned. Like she 163 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: never I think sometimes, you know how sometimes you get 164 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 1: presents in the mail just from people, yeah that you 165 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: know or whatever. Sometimes we'd get some of those and 166 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: they would be addressed to Santa Claus, or we'd go 167 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: to someone else's house and they do somebody all the 168 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: kids got presents from Santa, and I'd be like, candy 169 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: or something like that. Somebody else in your life was 170 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: like these boys need need Santa in their lives and 171 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: we'll do it or yeah, or just like you're at 172 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: somebody else's house. Such their traditions. But my mom never 173 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: pushed it. And then like, we lived in apartments, so 174 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: the Chimney thing was immediately like yeah, I mean, I 175 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: will say that happened in my apartment. That that was 176 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: always a conversation for apartment kids. And and as someone 177 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: who grew up in apartments as well, I had those questions. 178 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: And I did feel like a lot of it was 179 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: just parents being like, oh, the back window or the 180 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: back door, like it felt like it got a dressed 181 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: that Like Santa was like, look, everybody ain't got the 182 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: means so not. I never felt like he got addressed 183 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: properly because I never heard him say it. And there 184 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:26,359 Speaker 1: was never anything. There's no apartment Christmas movies. Right, I'm 185 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: saying there's not people living. And I'm not just talking 186 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: about poor people. What about people who live in New York. Yeah, 187 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing any like. It was all very suburban. Yeah. 188 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: They make they make it so that the Santa movies 189 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: are often exactly what Santa. The perfect circumstances for Santa 190 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: to succeed, whereas like there's a bunch of places where 191 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: where it ain't so easy to drop off gifts. Yeah, 192 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: and I just like, listen, I I was a weird kid. 193 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: I was aware of war, so I felt the same 194 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: way as Santa. God, like, if you have this much 195 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: power you going on, you're not really doing anything about 196 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't think I really get down with you if 197 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: that is the case. Yeah, you got this this high 198 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: speed engine attached to reindeer, and you ain't helping to 199 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: stop the missile crisis. There's a conflict. I don't give 200 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: a shit about your nice list. A big dog, you know, 201 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: who else could use your help is Ukraine. They seem 202 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: to be they seemed to be uh in need of 203 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: a gift or two. You know, why don't you put 204 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: some foreign aid in that fucking giant. You seemingly have 205 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: unlimited resources for the children of the world, but only 206 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: worried about him on that day. It just just never. 207 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I never the sentiment never said right, no, no, I never, 208 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: And then and then mix that with like my mom 209 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: she just didn't there Like, I don't think she was 210 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: ever particularly antis Like I don't think she ever sat 211 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: me down and was like, Santa Claus is not real. 212 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: It was just obvious. But like I believe in the 213 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: tooth Fairy more than I ever believe in Santa Claus. Yeah, 214 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: I I definitely was a tooth fairy guy. The money 215 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: was showing up. I couldn't figure out why it. He 216 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: felt pretty straightforward and it's in his delivery. Also, as 217 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: a kid, you just assumed that you don't sleep like 218 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: kids sleep like they because you know how they go. 219 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: They just go to the end of the day until 220 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: they can't go anymore, and then they sleep so hard. Yeah, 221 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: they run straight into a sleep wall. Yeah, face first 222 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: into a fucking brick wall, and then they're just dead. 223 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: First you ever seen a kid in bed, it looks 224 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: like a crime scene. It's just so I they truly 225 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: commit sleep suicide and then wake up the next day 226 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: like what the fuck? Just like yeah, so like, but 227 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: in my head, I slept like adults. So I was like, oh, 228 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: I would for sure notice if someone came in my 229 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: room and lifted Meanwhile, it was probably to their parents. 230 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Probably such an easy one to pull the pillow and 231 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: put the dollars that kids dead to the world. Yeah, 232 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: And also like people are constantly moving in their sleep. 233 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: All I need for you is to roll over a 234 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: little bit. And I dropped that bad boy off and yeah, yeah, yeah, 235 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: I'll put it on the one you weren't under it. 236 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: So like that one always made sense to me, But 237 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the other ones, no, Well, I will say that I 238 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: didn't know a fair amount, not not a ton, but 239 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: a couple of black families that did make a point 240 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: of making Santa black and like being the type of 241 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: people like they were parents I remember who like would 242 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: get upset if like you gave their their kid a 243 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: white doll or you know what I mean. Like that 244 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: just more to me even black Santa though I think 245 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: for them it was like all this ship's black, our 246 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: dolls are black? Are Santists are black? It's it's that 247 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: Jessy song. But you know what I mean, I'll be 248 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: goddam yeah exactly. I think in this case it's much 249 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: more about, like, hey, I want you to see black 250 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: imagery constantly in a reflection of yourself at all times, 251 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: even if it's not like some ship, we truly believe it. 252 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: And then, like an ultimately positive person, I get that 253 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: as well. Right, Like Santa Claus, there's no stinker on him, 254 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: so it's like, yeah, to have them be black. I 255 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: can see how that's like a very positive thing, and 256 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: like I always like it. I always like seeing black 257 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: Santa Clauses. And I love black Christmas knick knacks, like 258 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: you know when you go into the house and they 259 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: have black angels or there's a picture that black dreaded 260 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: Jesus or whatever. I like that stuff. I like that stuff. 261 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: But I think there's more of a case for Jesus 262 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: being black than Santa Claus. WHOA you are you a 263 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: believer that Jesus is black? Is that a thing that 264 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: I probably looked like the other people who looked like 265 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: from that place. Yeah, because the rocket sci science is like, yeah, 266 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: I've never the Jesus's black argument always felt more like, uh, 267 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: like us being like a little bit of like stinkers 268 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: about the ship. Like I never fully believed that he 269 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: was a black man, but I definitely figured he looked 270 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: somewhere closer to like me than he looks to the 271 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: current depiction of what Jesus is. Yeah, I mean the 272 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: fact that they got away with like a straight white 273 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: guy is like crazy. Yeah, No, it's pretty wild. Like 274 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't even understand it. I don't understand how anybody 275 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: believed that and then to keep it, do you know 276 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I get how you got away 277 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: with the ship you just started put the flyers out 278 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: and they call win, do you know what I mean? Yeah? 279 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: But now still now we've we've done it, like we've 280 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: we've traced all the history. We literally scientists every year 281 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: come out with like some new depiction of what Jesus 282 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: probably looked like in you know, whatever the funck zero 283 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: A D or or BC. He'd have to be BC. 284 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: He'd be dead. Oh I heard recently he was. If 285 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: you trace the year back, he was born four BC. Okay, 286 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: hell yeah, but I think I heard I love that 287 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: comedians jokes, so I don't know if that was right. 288 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: It's probably not where idiots. But but that said, we 289 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: we literally see the depictions and then still go to 290 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: churches where white Jesus proudly hangs on a wall and 291 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: people get white Jesus tattoo was and T shirts, and 292 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it's still very white. I don't, I 293 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: don't get it, but like, but I'm down to fight 294 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: for it. Like I said, I'm down for it. I 295 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: just Santa Claus. I just it never and maybe it 296 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: was just like a hill not worth dying on to me. 297 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: And that's why I've never like gone as far as 298 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: to feel that like the relevance of like Jesus not 299 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: being white is so much bigger than me than like 300 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: Santa is. Like I don't know, you know what the 301 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: Jesus white thing is for me? It you you were 302 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: talking about why we we haven't changed it or why 303 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: it can't be changed. It feels similar to like when 304 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: everybody got upset with the Sonic the Hedgehog, you know 305 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, where it's like, oh, they put out 306 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: that movie or a trailer for that movie where Sonic 307 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: looked weird, and everybody was like, what the fund did 308 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: you do to Sonic? Even though we had never seen 309 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Sonic there it's certainly not a blue one and that 310 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: one that walks upright, he's weird speakers, what's happening? But 311 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: it was like they did a thing and they made 312 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: a choice, and then we were like, that's not fucking Sonic. 313 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Even though the motherfucker doesn't exist, we have a thing 314 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: in our head that just makes him Sonic or not Sonic, 315 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: you know what makes me feel. I don't know how 316 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: I feel about it, but it's like I I just 317 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: like Black Sonic or I did oh black Sonic. I 318 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: just like I just like weird Sonic. But I'm fine 319 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: with Black spider Man. That one doesn't bother me. And 320 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: spider Man wasn't black, Well Spiderman, that's that's not necessarily 321 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: true our our from Queen's well yeah, that that basically, 322 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: if you subscribe to the multiverse theory, which is a 323 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: constant in a lot of Marvel comics and universe whatever, 324 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: there are different depictions of a lot of these characters 325 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: black spider Man, including let's say you have kids. Someday 326 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: you you're building a family, do you see yourself immediately 327 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: just taking that from them. They're growing up, presumably in Denver, Colorado, 328 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: where Santa I think thrives maybe the most, Like he's 329 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: got to be a pretty cool guy. It's no, it's 330 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people that kind of look like him. 331 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: I assume, as when your malls are packed with with 332 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: gentlemen auditioning to be Santa. This year we got regular 333 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: people malls. No, no, no, that's not That's not the 334 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: world I've imagined were in there. Uh No, I mean 335 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: if I had Well, here's the other thing, like what 336 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: you're saying right now, I don't because of the way 337 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: that I grew up with it and in dealing with it, 338 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that it's taking away from that child, 339 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: the kids, the child's childhood. But that's such like an 340 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: American notion of like, I'm taking away from you by 341 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: not giving you this Santa. If I teach I would 342 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: imagine if I were to have children and I teach 343 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: them that this holiday is even less about je because 344 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: I don't know how hard I would put the Jesus narrative. 345 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: I think it's more about us being together, loving each other, 346 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: and we're buying gifts, but we're buying gifts because we 347 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: love each other and all that type of thing. I 348 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I don't make the kids 349 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: missing out that much by not having this magic dude 350 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: who doesn't pay any taxes coming in the chimney. I'm 351 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: saying like, I don't feel like, what are you missing out? Well, 352 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: here's what I'll say to to play Devil's advocate a 353 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: little bit. I think it's less of missing out on 354 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: something in the home and more of the sort of 355 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: like social standards that are flowing around you, right that, 356 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: like they're already black, they're already fighting up hill against that. 357 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't feel like Santa Claus 358 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: is the hill to die on. No, I don't think 359 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: it has to be the hill to die on. But 360 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: there is something in training your child to be the 361 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: one that goes to school and it's like, hey, Christmas, 362 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: sent ain't real. Fuck your traditions arette before. Yeah, it's 363 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: like now you're not. Now you're that kid. Now you're 364 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: a bad You're a bad baby, and and everybody hates 365 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: your guts just because your dad was like, Hey, I 366 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: know this is stupid, and it's like a big dog. 367 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: We all know it's stupid. Pick your stupid. I guess 368 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: it would be on my queen. Then I guess it 369 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: would be on whatever the mom would think, like if 370 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: she was really because I'm not also I'm not also 371 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: not averse to it, like I'm not I'm not the grinch, 372 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: you know what I like. I don't hate Christmas or 373 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: have I had some weird Christmas with some complicated things 374 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: happen you know, strippers from Hawaiian Yeah, I've had some 375 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: weird ones. I have a complicated relationship sins of the father, 376 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not trying to yeah, 377 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, so I guess if I had a 378 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: kid and so along what the mom wants me personally, 379 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: though I don't, I wouldn't need to push it. I 380 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: feel that are you pushing it hard? I'm not pushing 381 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: it hard, but I'm not anti the whimsy. I think 382 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: one of the things that I'm sort of discovering in 383 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: and being a new parent is that you want your 384 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: kid to stay a kid for as long as you 385 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: possibly can, even like these small little moments of sort 386 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: of like Discovery are so fucking beautiful and charming and 387 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: and fun to watch. That's like, yeah, if you're a 388 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: little idiot who believes in in a big old fat 389 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: man dropping off gifts, then I'm not gonna steal that 390 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: from you. I don't. I don't want to shove it 391 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: down your throat. But like, that's nice that you're that dumb, 392 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, go ahead. I want to see it. I 393 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: want to see you be the biggest idiot you've ever been. 394 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: So are you buying presence and writing from Santa? I 395 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: think we probably will, all right, I think, yeah, doesn't 396 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: that make you mad? Because you work hard all year? 397 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: I listen, I'm not buying very expensive gifts. Santa can 398 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: take credit for these. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's like 399 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: here's a teething toy for you, my dear, And it's 400 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: like I've got you a dryer race board for you. 401 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Daddy bought that car right then, then once you become 402 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: smart to this ship, that's when I really invest I 403 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: just it just seems like a weird. Also, Donna love 404 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: this whole collective tradition of Tricken children, like we're all 405 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: in on it. Oh sure, because I feel like for 406 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: me and I'm weird. I know I'm weird, But for me, 407 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: that would be my issue with finding out that it 408 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: wasn't real is I would definitely be on something like 409 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: you all knew, oh you would offense. That would be like, 410 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: oh you just I'm like, I'm like an idiot out here. 411 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm a fool to you. Yeah, I've just been dumby. 412 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: I'm a joke. I'm a plaything whose emotions you can 413 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: just like you know you No, no, you care about me? Uh, 414 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: very sensitive, very sensitive? Whoa. I didn't take it that personally. 415 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, you got me, you got me, 416 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: good good work. I see what you did there. Happen again? Right, 417 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna give me. I know that it's not real. 418 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: I know it to fairy only works on weekends. You 419 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: ain't gonna get me twice. Yeah, no, I understand now 420 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: and now I'm coming back. What do you know about you? 421 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: About that? Yeah? I I think I think what I 422 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: want is for my kid to stay a kid. And 423 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: if that means that, I just have to play along 424 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: and into your point a very European sort of like 425 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: not harmless fucking shin dig a little like ruse then 426 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: I'm down for that. You know, what are you? Are 427 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: you gonna push a black Santa. I'll be real with you, man, No, 428 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: I love you. You don't have to be that righteous 429 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Santa white in my head? You know what I mean? 430 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: When I closed my eyes in a picture of he's 431 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: never black, He's never that's just shakes like a both 432 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: f of strawberry preserves. Yeah, I I closed my eyes. 433 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: That's a white man, and understand. But but I I 434 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: was wondering what I even think Santa's hair used to 435 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: look like before he went gray. If I'm being honest, 436 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: it was blonde. Really. Yeah, I've always pictured Santa as 437 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: truly like this fucking Nordic ariyan fat man. Yeah, I 438 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: guess young. I never even thought about young Santa before. Yes, 439 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: is sucking me up. I never even went there. Yeah, 440 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: you gotta get high and just think about I bet. 441 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: I bet he was fucking so much and that's why 442 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't have kids. Now I can see that. I 443 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: I yeah, I think he was buff. Yeah he was hot. 444 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he was like buff like fucking you know, 445 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: with the usher cut type shit. I think it's like, yeah, 446 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: the strongest man in the world. Type buff where it's 447 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: like the Swedes. Yeah, exactly, big he could he could 448 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: lift a big concrete boulder onto a raised platform. Uh huh, 449 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: and he'll do it six more times until he's the 450 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: world champion. Like Santa was flipping tires, he wasn't necessary 451 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: really doing a lot of core work, not at all. 452 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: He could pull the truck with his teet though. That 453 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: yeah Santa, But yeah, no, I I don't think that 454 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: that's that I'm if I'm being honest, I'd be lying 455 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: if I said that Santa has been anything but white 456 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: for me. But I've also I've never where you were, Like, 457 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: I don't see the point of Santa or the need 458 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: for Santa. I think I've never understood the need for 459 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Santa to be black, Like, I don't understand how that, 460 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: other than him just being a good dude, how that 461 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: would give anybody comfort. I mean, it's yeah, it's like 462 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: false representation, you know what, you know what not false representation, 463 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: but it's not necessary representation. Yeah, I know what I mean. 464 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,719 Speaker 1: I think I want to fight for black directors more 465 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: than I give a funk about like black Santa exactly. Like, yeah, 466 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: like black Santa doesn't what does that wind do. Yeah, 467 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't. There's no victory in Black Santa where it 468 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: almost feels like Black Santa would affect white children more 469 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: than it would affect black children, right, you know what 470 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it would be white like white people 471 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: would have to be like, well they're actually they make 472 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: us presents. Yeah right, that that for a white child, 473 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: For a white child, that feels like, yeah, Santa's gotta 474 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: work on the on the holiday. Yeah yeah, yeah, you 475 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: can't get the day off. He's gotta take us. Let's 476 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: be honest, the man employee, slave labor. It's a lot 477 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: darker if a black man's doing that. Yeah, it's got 478 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more of that. Wakanda forever. You know, 479 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: I love trash and Wakanda forever. Someone get this chicken 480 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: away from me. We're gonna get in trouble for it. 481 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I fell asleep, so it was born that 482 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: said I I do. That's interesting to think that truly 483 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: the only person, only people it would benefit to have 484 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: a Black Santa is little white children, and they're not 485 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: taking advantage of it. And maybe that's a good way 486 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: for us to go to this break is by encouraging 487 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: you out there. If you are, in fact a person, 488 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: a white person with white children. You should be telling 489 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: them about a black Santa, because it is finally your 490 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: chance to restore the the slave mentality that that birth 491 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: this nation and made you so great in the first 492 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: back you weren't the only ones with slaves. Yeah, come on, dog, 493 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: black Santa, you gotta you gotta start the journey all 494 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: over again to get back to where you want to be. 495 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: How did all of this trouble begin? America? All right, 496 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be We're gonna take a break. We'll be 497 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: back with more, David, more lengths and the more. My 498 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: mama told me, because lovell goodel good, and you sing 499 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: good and make love good. Oh oh yeah, we're back 500 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: here with more, my mama told me. We're still talking 501 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: about the possibility that Santa Clause was in fact a 502 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: black man, secretly or not so secretly. I don't think 503 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: he was hiding it. He wasn't passing. No, No, I 504 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: don't think so. But I can't tell right covert are 505 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: we are? We come at this? This is a conspiracy? 506 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: Like he was all he was always black, and there 507 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: was like a cover up. I think that would be 508 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: the argument, right, is that, or at least that would 509 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: be My presumed argument for this is that it Santa 510 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: Claus began as a black man, as so many men 511 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: did in this world, and then through whitewashing and history 512 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: and and mixing and matching, we suddenly found ourselves with 513 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: jolly old saying Nick a very white, very non ethnic man. Okay, 514 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: that's all right. You know what it is. I wish 515 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: that I cared. Well, it's good we made it the 516 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: holidays special. Then, No, I mean I care about black conspiracy. 517 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: I just wish that. I like, like, I'm not a 518 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: Christmas guy. I got you, That's that's what it is. More, 519 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm not a Christmas guy. I'm like, uh, I'm like 520 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: I like a like a Labor Day barbecue, you know 521 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: what I mean, like Memorial Day. I think they book 522 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: in the summer. Nice, but like, yeah, I'm not like, yeah, 523 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: I got you. But I am down to fight for 524 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: black Santa Claus if that is my role on this podcast. No, 525 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: you don't have to fight for him. I think, in fact, 526 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: your role has become funck that guy pretty clearly. And 527 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: in that way, maybe I'll fight for black Santa Claus. Look, 528 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: here's what's gonna happen, and this is a good way 529 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: for us to transition. I did some research, will unpack 530 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: some of this research. You you tell me if any 531 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: of this sways you in one direction or another, all right, 532 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: let's do it. Because I want to hear these facts. 533 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't want them to be called facts, because the 534 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: reality is I haven't verified ship. But the information that 535 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: I've began together, So the legend of Santa Claus, what 536 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: we were, at least what we've called Santa Claus, can 537 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: be traced back to to A D A D. To 538 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: a D A D so mad long ago. So Jesus 539 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: was way dead. Jesus was way dead, but but way 540 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: more alive than he's ever been, you know, for us 541 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: at least, but to A D A D. It's traced 542 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: back to this monk named St. Nicholas, who was born 543 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: in Potara near mirror Myra in modern day Turkey. So 544 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: he was Turkish. Yeah, this is a Turkish dude named St. Nicholas, 545 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: that Turkish monk, excuse me, named St. Nicholas. And now 546 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: I know, but if other people in the you know, 547 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: for the rest of our ignorant buffoon list, the Turkish people, 548 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: the Turks if you will, Yeah, young Turk and the 549 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: rest Yeah, man, if I am correcting my thinking or not. Now, 550 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: they don't look like Santa Claus by any means. I 551 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: think if if we were going with a Turkish Santa Claus, 552 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: he should have like a thick, dark mustache with no beard, 553 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 1: and he should have like eyebrows that look like rackon tails. 554 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: And they should be whoa very thick, very thick eyebrows, 555 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 1: and you should be holding like a sticker that said 556 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: I voted for doctor Oz. You know what I mean. 557 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: It's that's a Turkish Man. That's what you should be driving. 558 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: That's not what I said. Oh I'm I'm out of line. 559 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: That's occupational, that's occupational. The eyebrows are are are objective 560 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: every Turkish Man. The eyebrows look like a jungle that 561 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: you gotta chop through to to find a treasure. Oh boy, 562 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: oh boy, this is on Christmas time. You do this, 563 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: you pull this on Christmas. I've only known conflict that 564 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: Christmas my home. My homes weren't always the most stable, 565 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: wasn't it nice having two Christmas is? Now, there were 566 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: times where it was pretty fly. I would I'm not 567 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: gonna lie there be days where like you get like 568 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: some dope ship at your your mom's house and then 569 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 1: you you just rub your hands together like god, damn, 570 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: I ain't even finished yet. And in terms ow you 571 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: weren't you? You get some more dope shit at my 572 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: dad's and I just sit there counting basketbacs of basketball 573 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: cards and fucking resident evil this, you know what I mean? 574 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: Just did you ever? Were you ever? Like thank god 575 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: my parents weren't together, that was more question. No, I 576 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever desired them together or apart, 577 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: Like they got along well enough that like it wasn't 578 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: but it always felt like, hey, we're friends, were cool, 579 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: but it wasn't like, man, the chemistry in here is 580 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: fucking rocking, you got. Yeah, it was never that. It 581 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: was always like, okay, the energy seems exactly right for divorced, 582 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: you see, using perfectly content not being with each other's 583 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: though I ain't gonna I ain gonna rock that boat, 584 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: but it's amicable. Yeah, but no, nobody's nobody's you know, 585 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: making me uh, you know, tell the other person something 586 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: they're not willing to say to their face kind of thing. 587 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: All right, what's yeah? No, I was solid so No, 588 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want them back together, or nor did I 589 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: like cheer at the the divorce as much as I 590 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: was like, damn to Christmas, is to holidays. It was crazy, 591 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, But but some of that I think 592 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: didn't always pan out quite as effectively. I think. I 593 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: think because holidays are celebrated so separately, you you find 594 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: yourself getting more of like two things, whereas like birthdays 595 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: are a little more just central you. So they sometimes 596 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: team up to get you something and ship like that, 597 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So they're still a team. Man, 598 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: it worked out pretty good, all right. I want to know, listen, 599 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: we come from different types of poor oken homes. It's 600 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: always interesting. Yeah, it's I think. I think that's fair. 601 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: So so that said. St. Nicholas was was Turkish. He 602 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,880 Speaker 1: was known specifically for his kindness. He was kind of like, uh, 603 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: this really kind of like you're in charge of the drops. 604 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: It feels like there was meant to be one there, 605 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: I know. I was like, sometimes as many as we have, 606 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: we need more. Yeah, we don't have one for every 607 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: season yet, you know what I mean. You gotta be 608 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: able to predict every reality, and right now we're only 609 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: hitting a few, but one time, this is this is 610 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: sort of the kindness he was best known for. One 611 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: time he saved three poor sisters, this is a legend, obviously, 612 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: from being sold into slavery or prostitution by their father. 613 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: When he provided them with a dowry so that they 614 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: could be married. He basically like paid their dowry so 615 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have to he sold them to a 616 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: different man. Yeah, kind of if you want to be 617 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: all two and woke about it. That was not woke. 618 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: I just said, what happened, my man, Saint Nicholas did 619 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 1: the best he could for a two A D A 620 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: D problem. And you're like, uh, wake up. The women 621 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: he paid their dowries, So does that mean they had 622 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: to go with him, because that's not I think the 623 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: implication is because he's a monk that he's not like 624 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: collecting bitches as much as he is a a dude 625 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: who paid it off so that they could go do 626 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: whatever the funk they wanted to do. If their dad 627 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: was gonna sell him into slavery, you don't think he 628 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: would have just taken out and been like I'm and listen, 629 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't I don't doubt for a second that that 630 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: father didn't eventually sell them into I think that don't. 631 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: Don't don't take my response in anyway as doubting that 632 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 1: that father didn't take advantage of a little extra change 633 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: and some slaves. That said, I do think that that St. 634 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: Nicholas's initial effort is an is an admirable one. Also, 635 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: if he was a monk, where do you get on 636 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: that money? That's a big question that I I think 637 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: I found myself asking and didn't want to dig further 638 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: to find out. You know, it feels like, oh, you 639 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: can started finding out where monks get their money, and 640 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: you you see some dark ship. Yeah, I believe it. Bro, 641 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: I don't know what that up to, but I don't 642 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: trust him. What's under the row? What's under the road? Bro? 643 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: Take that rob off. There's a little too flowy for 644 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: my days. I don't like it. So this St. Nicholas, 645 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: he becomes more and more popular, so so popular that 646 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: he becomes the patron saint of protecting children and sailors. 647 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: For some reason, it was children to Yeah, I don't 648 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: know why sailors are being treated with the same vulnerability 649 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: as children, like one group needs protection from being sold 650 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: into slavery. Or sex slavery. The other group needs protection 651 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: from sailors. Yeah. I don't like this. I don't like 652 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: your grouping. Yeah, it's a weird grouping. It feels like, 653 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: you know when in Congress when they passed bills, but 654 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 1: then they squeeze in a little extra something that has 655 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: nothing to do with that bill. Yeah, this, this bill 656 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: is gonna make it so that, uh, that interracial marriages 657 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: can happen. And also it's uh, it's gonna make sure 658 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: that Road fifteen stays closed forever. And it's like, hey, 659 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: what was that Row fifteen ship? Yeah? Wait wait did hey, 660 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 1: wait wait a minute, I ain't got anohing to do 661 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: with nothing, and what why do you want to close 662 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 1: so bad? Yeah? That's yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah. So, 663 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: so he becomes this very popular patron saint, and over 664 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: the years this popularity spread until he became essentially the 665 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: most popular saint in Europe, like, more popular than all 666 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: the other saints that were available. I don't know very 667 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: many of them, but apparently, uh, they all sucked it 668 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: compared to this dude. St. Nicholas. And just while he 669 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: was alive. He's alive, and this is he's popping like 670 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: that so he starts popping while he's alive, but it 671 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: really takes off once he's dead. I think, like a 672 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 1: lot of things, that it became a larger sort of 673 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: like legend. It's sort of the Gandhi ship, you know 674 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, where it's like Gandhi was popping when 675 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: he was alive, but people still knew that, yeah, and 676 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: hated black people and ship. And then and once he died, 677 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 1: it was like, oh yeah, now this dude is a saint. 678 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: He can never he can do no wrong. Yeah, I'm 679 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: ready to die, which is why you stop eating. Yeah, 680 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: exactly right. I don't forget everything I said about what 681 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: kinda forever he had great film. So over the years 682 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: his popularity spread now what we now spread throughout You 683 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: know he was from Asia, Yeah technically, although you know 684 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Turkey I think falls into that weird space where it's 685 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: like kind of both it's that your Asia ship. Yeah, 686 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: when he calls Far East, I can't quite tell. People 687 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: look like they could be from either place. Yeah, they're 688 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: they're real. It's a real nebulous zone of like, hey, 689 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: what do y'all, Who do y'all belong to? Because white 690 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: people are real mean to you but not mean enough 691 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: that it it seems like they're like, you know what 692 00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, against you fundamentally. Also, they don't seem to 693 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: be with us fundamentally even yea, whose team y'all on? Yeah, 694 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: what are you playing? All right? So it's read throughout Europe. 695 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: He spreads throughout Europe, but specifically the celebration of his death, 696 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: the anniversary of his death becomes sort of the most 697 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: popular acknowledgement of St. Nicholas and his his celebrity, right, 698 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 1: and the celebration of his death is a feast day 699 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 1: and traditionally considered a lucky day to make large purchases 700 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: or get married. Those were sort of like the big 701 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: things that you wanted to do on St. Nicholas's feast day. 702 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: Those are only things I would imagine doing on bad day. 703 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: But continue, but that that is essentially what Christmas is 704 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 1: is us just making insanely large purchases and justifying it 705 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: by giving it to another person instead of ourselves. All right, 706 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: all right, so he was oppin he died. Now he's 707 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: super poppling celebrating his birthday every year. Yeah, And so 708 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: it actually doesn't And this obviously all happens in the 709 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: fucking early a d s and ship. He said he 710 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: died sixty to eight. No, he was born into e 711 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:28,800 Speaker 1: d he died I assumed as Zomi died much younger 712 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: than uh than a man is supposed to die. All right. 713 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,759 Speaker 1: What's interesting is that like it's it's you know, he 714 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: becomes very popular, he's he's sort of known all around 715 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: whatever whatever, But it doesn't actually start to gain traction 716 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: in America, Like none of this actually even comes up 717 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: or spreads like throughout the world except Holland. Holland like 718 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: stays real loyal to this ship all the way through. 719 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: But Santa Claus didn't make it to America until December 720 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: seventeen seventy three. Yes, it is because of the Dutch, 721 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: which is making me more Yeah, the Dutch, you know, 722 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: the classic slave owners, the Dutch. But in seventeen seventy 723 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: three and seventy four, when in New York newspaper basically 724 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: reported that groups of Dutch families, you're right, had gathered 725 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: to honor St. Nicholas, then known as Center Claus on 726 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: his death day. So they had a block party. In 727 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,960 Speaker 1: the end, they had a block party in New York 728 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: and then the New York Times wrote about it two 729 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 1: years in a row, and suddenly we had Santa Claus. Wait, no, 730 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: that's a bridge to no, when did he get the 731 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 1: red sack in the elves? Well, that's that's a slightly 732 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: different answer, right. So yes, I am not pulling back 733 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: when I say that is how we got Santa Claus. 734 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: Here is more or less these Dutch families throwing a 735 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: block party. Now. What I will also say is that 736 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: their depiction of center clause is not in any way 737 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 1: a reflection of the current Santa that we have today. 738 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: It's not the jolly, jolly fat man with the hat 739 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,800 Speaker 1: and all of that ship. I think dutchman smoking a cigarette. 740 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: It was just thick shoes, very thick, very wooden juice. 741 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: It's the Turkish guy hitting the hookah huh. He's got 742 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: a polo shirt tucked in his belt. You know, the vibes, 743 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:47,839 Speaker 1: but not real polo. US Polo Association what I think 744 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 1: we should do. By the way, also this holiday season, 745 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: watch out guys that US Polo Association and I'll get 746 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 1: you fooling anybody. It'll get you big dogs. Know you 747 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: don't want to get stuff with that, with that kind 748 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 1: of stuff, man or nothing man, don't be like that. Yeah, 749 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: don't you ain't gotta do all that, and listen, there 750 00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: are a lot of affordable polo options available to you. 751 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if they are a sponsor of this episode, 752 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: but I pray, I pray that that POLO is and 753 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: I pray looking good. That looking damn good if you 754 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: ask me, pray that polo is, and I pray that 755 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: US Polo Association is not. Yeah, I'm going on the 756 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: records being fully anti US Polo Association. Thank God. What 757 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: if what if I found out you were into that 758 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: and that ended the show forever? It would be a 759 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: lot like when I found out you were in the 760 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: Mountain Dew. I would think, you keep saying and then 761 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: we would move on. You keep saying that, But I'm 762 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: not into Mountain Dew. I was. I think that if 763 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,959 Speaker 1: you had no concern for your health more well being, 764 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: you would still be in the Mountain Dew. Is that 765 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: ha ha? You want it? You want it? You want 766 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,720 Speaker 1: that green goodness society. Look, come on, man, your lip shaking. 767 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,479 Speaker 1: You see all these new flavors, that's gotta be help 768 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: for you. It's just a very specific taste that's like, 769 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 1: that's gotta be like a heroinoutic walking back under the bridge, 770 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 1: past the seven eleven cooler with all the new ship. 771 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 1: You gotta hide your baby's eyes. I think the dude, 772 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: I think the dude has done right by a bunch 773 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: of us, you know us. He's what he says. Listen 774 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: to the words, people, Yeah, brothers and sisters, my dewey 775 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:46,479 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters. Wake up, wake up, wake up. Don't 776 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: do that's what that's that's the new model. Don't the dude. 777 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: You lead you don't be scared of it. But I'm 778 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,279 Speaker 1: saying in the vacuum, you're a bachelor right now. You 779 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: have nothing to live for. Ye are you still on 780 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 1: the dude? I think I would partake every once in 781 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: a while, but I don't think let me be clear, 782 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,439 Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I would prefer it over 783 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: like every other soda. I think it just would make 784 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: it into you know, a fucking you know interesting. You 785 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,960 Speaker 1: don't think it would be the go to, No, I 786 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: think it would just be a part of a rotation. 787 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,239 Speaker 1: I think I'd foked around with some Dr Pepper. I 788 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: think i'd buy vanilla coax like. I think I'd be 789 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,439 Speaker 1: a very different man. Yeah, it's that a very different man. Yeah. 790 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: Water now, I haven't had a soda in in years. 791 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: I truly, I'm constantly worried that, like every choice I'm 792 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: making is gonna kill me. And if I had no 793 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: responsibilities and didn't give a funk about vanity, I would 794 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 1: truly just I'd eat honey buns and mountain dew and 795 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: you know, and drink mountain dew and fucking board thirty five. 796 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give a fun skateboard. I did not see 797 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: that's I do, baby, it was. It was the ex 798 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: first extreme soda. Well, here's what I think we should do, 799 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: because this is what we we didn't even warn our 800 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: listeners ahead of time. But this is gonna be a 801 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: two part episode. We're gonna spend We're gonna spend a 802 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,760 Speaker 1: little bit longer talking shit about old Black Santa, old 803 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: Nigga st Nick. That's not what I'm doing. And so 804 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna take another break and and possibly 805 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,640 Speaker 1: this is maybe the end of the episode, this episode, 806 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: and then we'll come back to a new episode continued 807 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: where we talk more about Black Santa. So some more David, 808 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: more Lenson and more. My mama told me, Hi, we're back. 809 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: You thought we were gone. But we're back, bitch, and 810 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: we've got something exciting to tell you, very exciting stuff 811 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: to to let you know about. Big was first big 812 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: news on the table starting December, right December twenty. We're 813 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: on YouTube. You asked for it, you animals, and we're 814 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,240 Speaker 1: giving it to you. You filthy pigs, you filthy fucking pigs. 815 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:23,480 Speaker 1: Full episodes of my Mama told me streaming on YouTube. 816 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: You can watch legs to laugh. Me licks my lips 817 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: because I don't know what's going on. I'm worried that 818 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm in some dry lip phase. I've been using chapsick 819 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: it stop going good. Oh no, you're in your dry era. 820 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: But but guess what. Guess what We're wet with content, baby, 821 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: because because it's all on YouTube, it's available for you 822 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: to view. You've been asking about it, and there it is. 823 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: And even more exciting, this is another little, another little 824 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,320 Speaker 1: scrumptious thing that we get to offer you is we 825 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 1: are doing a live show. Finally we are. David and 826 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: I are are finally gonna be live in in front 827 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: of our our our eights and and maybe even tens 828 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: of fans, doing a live episode of My Mama told Me. 829 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: It's going to be at the Allegian Theater here in 830 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles on on February sixte We're really excited. We 831 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: would love for you to be there. The tickets, the 832 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: information is all gonna be linked here on the YouTube 833 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 1: that we promised is now available, So so click the 834 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 1: goddamn link, your idiot. We did all this work. You 835 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,720 Speaker 1: better click it and you better show up. Masltop bitch 836 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: in your labs are racist mostly money, I can't tell 837 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 1: me