1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: I listened to The Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Rob and Karen. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: Since I am currently kind of sort of famous to 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: some people, depending on their interest in media habits, I 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: have a good amount of privacy, but people also think 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: they're entitled to me in some way. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 3: I recently joined a. 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: Private gym because people kept trying to take pictures with 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: me when I was sweating and gross. Once I was 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: topless in the locker room, which was already a big 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: deal for me, when I heard a tentative voice echo 12 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: from the showers, excuse me, are you Francesca. On the 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: one hand, it's totally inappropriate to try to strike up 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: a conversation with any naked stranger in the gym locker room, like, 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: don't ever do that. There is no scenario on which 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: that is okay. But on the other hand, I knew 17 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: I had made myself seem open and approachable online, so 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: people assume I'm always open and approachable. When I shared 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: that I'd moved into a new place, fans asked me 20 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: to give an apartment tour, I had to draw the line. 21 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to give strangers access to my personal 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: space this time around. 23 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,319 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get robbed, and besides, I. 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Really hate the rug Patrick picked out. 25 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: Similarly, I recently decided to quit Snapchat because an acquaintance 26 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: came up to me at an event and said, girl, 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: I saw you crying on Snapchat. 28 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: Are you okay? 29 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: Then someone sent me a message asking did you and 30 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: Patrick break up? 31 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: You haven't posted a picture of him in nine weeks. 32 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: I'd find myself in the middle of a dinner and 33 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: enjoin a robust conversation about the top five flavors of 34 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Lacroix or savoring a plate of fried chicken and mushroom 35 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: rosemary waffles. Sounds weird, but I'm a bit team sweet 36 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: and meat forever. 37 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: And suddenly I'd like, I think, Shit, I've got to. 38 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: Capture this thing for the Internet, otherwise they won't know 39 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: I did it. I was so accustomed to giving so 40 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: much of myself the strangers that I was starting to 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: feel like I. 42 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: Owed them something. 43 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: I think this is a symptom of a double standard 44 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: for Internet celebrities. The fans feel like they've given you 45 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: your career. Maybe they've been watching your videos for years 46 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: and so they expect something back, no matter, no matter 47 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: that your work should be repayment enough. I occasionally still 48 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: get emails about the along the lines of I shared 49 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: your video, so why won't you answer my thirty paragraph 50 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: email about how to make it as a YouTuber. Hey, 51 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: welcome to the Blackout Tips Podcast. I'm your host Rod, 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: joined us always by my co host Karen, and we're 53 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: live on a Saturday morning. 54 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: Ready do some feedback. 55 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: You can find us on Spotify, Okay, Spotify, Spotify, Spotify, 56 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: And of course feedback is when we cover all the 57 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: things that you had to say about the things that 58 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: we had to say throughout the week. So we will 59 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: be talking about your comments that you left on our website, 60 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: your votes that you're left in the poll, and your 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: comments you left on those. We'll talk about the emails 62 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: you send us at the Blackout Tips at gmail dot com. 63 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 2: We'll talk about the voicemails you left at seven o 64 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: four five five seven zero one eighty six, and we'll 65 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: you know, get into we got one five star review, 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: we got a new fostar review. Yeah, it's never too late, 67 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: never too late, never too late, So we'll talk about 68 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 69 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: Excerpt that I read. 70 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: To start the show is from Francesca Ramsey's book well, 71 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: that escalated quickly, and talking about the trappings of being 72 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: the internet. 73 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: Media producer and celebrities somewhat. 74 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: You know, like a media is a celebrity from the Internet, 75 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 2: so you know, she compares it to like, look, I'm 76 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: sure it's not as bad as like Beyonce or whatever, 77 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: but it can be bad for different people in different ways. 78 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: And there is an expectation that you. 79 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: Owe people something. And I think. 80 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: Especially for like we do a podcast, I think for 81 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: these people that do video as their main form of content, 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: I think it's even more expected of them because you 83 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: see the person, you know what they look like, and 84 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: when you see them, they're on right, they're selling the product. 85 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: So it's her explaining to you racism or whatever. And 86 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: you follow their videos, you're like, Francesca's always right, She's 87 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: so smart, and at some point it's just in your mind. 88 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: It's like I can walk right up to her, what 89 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: she has no shirt on? It'd be like, hey, girl, 90 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: how's everything going? You know, and you're right that it's 91 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 2: you know, it is intrusive. You're living your life and 92 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: this person just can show up at any time and 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: you don't know them. They think they know you, and 94 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: you have to deal with that, and I think especially 95 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: being on line so social media and stuff is another 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: way that people like interact and stuff. It does set 97 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: up some kind of expectations that you can never pull 98 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: back from in your mind. You have to set some 99 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: healthy boundaries, you know. Speaking of which, we are planning 100 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: to take a week off this coming a week. 101 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: I looked up. 102 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: I was like, we've been working since the pandemic hit 103 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: and really haven't taken any time off in. 104 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: The way that we normally would like a week a month. 105 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: And that was a habit that we were getting into 106 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: that was really healthy, and I think during the podcast 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 2: has been healthy during this I mean, it's a daily 108 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: outlet in a world that is clearly on the brink. 109 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: But we need toime off. 110 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: You know, we didn't negotiate that time in our contract 111 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: for nothing, so we need we need to take a 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: week off. And I think there's more than enough content 113 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: because we've been going straight. 114 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: There's very few people are caught all the way up 115 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: with the show. 116 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: I'm sure some are, but most people are not. 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: And if you're premium you even got the Thanksgiving Day special. 118 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: There's right, there's all kinds of premium stuff behind the 119 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: pay while people are getting and especially those of y'all 120 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: that are taking advantage of our Black Friday deal at 121 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: which a lot of you are. 122 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: I love to see. 123 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: It, you know, people are people are getting that Black 124 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: Friday deal this week and and and I love to 125 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: see that people are, you know, utilizing that because that's 126 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: even more content you weren't getting. There's never a shortage 127 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: of content, so you know, just as a heads up, 128 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, that's the kind of thing that's feeling that 129 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: you have, like, can I pull back? 130 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: What do people want? Am I giving enough? Am I 131 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: not given enough? 132 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: Do I need to take a picture every time I 133 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: go out to eat and show people this is what 134 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm happening or this neat thing is happening in my life. 135 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm at this concert. I need y'all to 136 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: see that I'm at this concert. I'm not really able 137 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 2: to experience this. I'm with my family, and I've talked 138 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: to y'all about my family on my podcast or my 139 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: videos and. 140 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: My social media. 141 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: So do I need to take a picture with my 142 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: family so y'all can see I'm with my family. 143 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: That is a thing I think for a content producer, 144 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: it is always in your mind, and you know, some 145 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: people won't be able to relate, but most people that 146 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: can't relate really don't produce content like that, and if 147 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: they do, they probably don't produce personal content like it's 148 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: not I'm taking my opinions in my life and making this. 149 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: Available to the world. And there's a line you have 150 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: to draw because. 151 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: If not, I feel like people will make you draw 152 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: that line by being overly familiar. And you have to 153 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: be like, whoa I'm you know, I'm at the gym. 154 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: I don't want to argue with you about sports, you know. 155 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: And also. 156 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 5: For me is the balance. And I can say this. 157 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 3: Social media. 158 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: Makes people think that when your social media famous, that 159 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: this is what you asked for. 160 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: You know. 161 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: It's just something about when people consider you a celebrity, 162 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: be it a celebrity celebrity or a Internet celebrity or 163 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 4: YouTube or. 164 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 5: Whatever the platform is. 165 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: If you are a celebrity on these platforms, there's something 166 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: that switches in most people's minds. And one of those 167 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: things that switch off is you having control of your body. 168 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 4: Your content is almost like you become public property. It's like, 169 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, your humanity doesn't matter what you 170 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 4: want doesn't matter, and they feel like not trying to 171 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: be funny. The little bit that they do do is 172 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: sufficient enough for you to jump through hoops. And it's like, 173 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: well I pay this, okay, you and a lot of 174 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 4: other people, it's like, not trying to be funny, yo, 175 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: little bit of money. 176 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: I justify you. 177 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 4: Being able to treat me any old kind of way 178 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: and call me out of my name and tell me 179 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: how ain't shit you know. And it's just something about that. 180 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: And so yes, you have to draw boundaries. And the 181 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 4: thing about boundaries, people don't like boundaries. I've come to 182 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: the conclusion that people don't like boundaries, but boundaries are 183 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: healthy for both parties involved. Boundaries help protect the person 184 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: so that they can continue to be creative. And boundaries 185 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: also protect you from being too intrusive into their personal life, 186 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 4: because that's the thing. Everybody wants to know everybody else's life, 187 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: but their personal life, that shit is shut down. They 188 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: don't share nothing, they don't tell nothing, they don't even 189 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: show their faces on social media. 190 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 3: You don't know who they are. 191 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: But when it comes to everybody else, they have to 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: know everything about everybody all day twenty four to seven. 193 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 3: You have to share, and if you don't share, something's 194 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: wrong with you. Yeah. 195 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: I think also the idea that the the fan or 196 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: the customer is always right, it's such a pervasive idea 197 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 2: throughout our society in America that it's really messed up 198 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: people's ability to understand the nuance of that, you know, 199 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: because the customer isn't always right. As somebody that's worked 200 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: in customer service, somebody that's worked with the public, many 201 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: times the customer is not just wrong, but dead wrong. 202 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: And many times that attitude enables abuse on one side 203 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: of the coin. And the same way that you see 204 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: people that are small businesses and they go online and 205 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: they're very like aggressive towards that customers. 206 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: And shit, and you're like, this is completely out of unprofessional. 207 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: People can do that with content creators too, you know, 208 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: because they're used to going on going on Twitter at 209 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Time Warner, Hey fuck you, my shit isn't working, and 210 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: Time Warner is some entity there's not supposed to technically 211 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: be a person there responsible for that. Now, that's not 212 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: true because a lot of times customer service people end 213 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 2: up seeing that stuff and people are very abusive to them. 214 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: The people that they are the people on the phone, 215 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: the people who you know call you for like, hey, 216 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: you're having. 217 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: This issue, we called you to help you. 218 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: People can be. 219 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: Very abusive towards them because they've been embolden with that 220 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: the customer is always right thing, and I'm always entitled 221 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: to your time. I'm always entitled to your presence. I'm 222 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: always I can be in your space. 223 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: And with these. 224 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: Informal type of jobs right where it's like I'm a YouTuber, 225 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: I'm a hey podcaster. You know, there's a lot of 226 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: times where people don't really understand and you kind of 227 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 2: cultivate the fan base that you have, which you know, 228 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: if you are I go to in on everybody because 229 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: I know the perfect thing to say and everyone's stupid. 230 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: You're gonna get that kind of fan. 231 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 3: If you're the. 232 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: Look, I'll drag a motherfucker that you gonna get that 233 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: kind of fan. And that's the kind of shit you 234 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: get back at you sometimes. But yeah, you know, I 235 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: think that entitlement, though, is what people run up against 236 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: all the time, and it really does have an effect 237 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: on your mental health because you never get to be off, 238 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: you never get to be human. 239 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 4: Correct And the thing is for most people their audience 240 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 4: has common sense and won't do anything inappropriate. Most the 241 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 4: average person won't, but the average person forgets there are 242 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: percentage out of you that will there's a percentage out 243 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: of you that will abuse, that will be nasty, that 244 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: will be mean, and that will cross boundaries. And for 245 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: a lot of people who they think because I never 246 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: do it, nobody else does it. And that goes on 247 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 4: to why a lot of people think the way they 248 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: do about society and women and all that shit, because 249 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: they go. 250 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: Well, my circles don't do it. 251 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 4: Okay, this, your circles don't do it, But it does 252 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 4: not mean this activity or this action does not happen 253 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: just because you don't participate in it. So a lot 254 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: of people kind of drive themselves away and don't want 255 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: to call people out sometimes on their bad behavior because 256 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 4: they think, ain't well, I don't do it and it 257 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 4: doesn't happen. So they don't feel justified or they don't 258 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: feel the closeness to it because these things don't directly 259 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: impact them. Because true, it's sad, but I realized that 260 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: human beings don't care about shit unless this directly impacts them. 261 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 4: And so your average person will always consume. I'm not 262 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: knocking it, but your average person. 263 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 5: Is just a consumer. 264 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: They consume and they don't produce anything, so they will 265 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: never understand. 266 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: The producer's side. 267 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 4: So it's very hard for somebody that consumes to see 268 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: the thing they consume. 269 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: Turn around and say, Hey, I'm a person, I'm a 270 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 3: human being. I have feelings, I have emotions. 271 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 4: I have the right to respond. I have the right 272 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: to do something you don't agree with. I have the 273 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 4: right to do something atrocious. I have the right to 274 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: do something good. I have these rights, just like you 275 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: do and your individual private life. And so this is 276 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: why people's that entitlement causes people to have these overreactions 277 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: and have these visceral reactions that I sometimes go this 278 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 4: behavior does not justify that action. 279 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: Then it dawns on me, Oh, you've actually placed You've. 280 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: Actually given them more power, and you've placed them on 281 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: a pedestal in your life that they never ask for. 282 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 4: They don't know you, they don't know your phone number. 283 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 4: You can't contact them, you can't hold them accountable for anything. 284 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 4: But because the way social media works, everybody because everybody 285 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: thinks that I have direct access to you what you 286 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: do online. But for some people, you don't have access 287 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 4: to them at all. So those people get talked about 288 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 4: too when people go, well, I don't have access to 289 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: you at all. 290 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. For a lot of people that do that for 291 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 5: their own self protection. 292 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:40,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think. 293 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 2: The other part of that is that a lot of 294 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: times the human moments are the ones that people sees 295 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: on anyway. 296 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: So if you do fuck. 297 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Up as a content creator or something, then there's another 298 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: level of like, I don't like this motherfucker. They said 299 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: something I don't agree with. And once again that entitlement 300 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: because they don't have to buy into anything, you know, 301 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: people now kind of pay with their time. Yes, so 302 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: they look at somebody like like, I've watched. 303 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: Thirty seven of your YouTube videos. Basically, you belong to me. 304 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: All your opinions need to be the same as mine, 305 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: all your you know, the way you look, I get 306 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: the comment on it, all this stuff, and when you 307 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: find yourself at the center of that, I think it 308 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: really does something to your brain. You know, it can 309 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: really mess people up and you become you know, you 310 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: start feeling like I'm super important. 311 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: I have to be here. 312 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: People need to hear my opinions all the time, and 313 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: you can drive yourself into the fucking ground thinking that 314 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: you're so important and not really drawing that line for yourself. 315 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: I think the Internet allowing. 316 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: Us to steal music just fucked up everybody's brain, like 317 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: us being the Naster generation, it just fucked up the 318 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: way we view artists and content completely because it's really like, 319 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: what you you do belongs to me, and not because 320 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: not because I pay for it, but because you created it. 321 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: I can take it. I can just have it on 322 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: my I can download it and put it on CD. 323 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: And I think that fucked people up in a long 324 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: way because we expect artists to be rich, we expect 325 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: our their opinions to be smart and informed, and we 326 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: also expect to not have to pay them for shit. 327 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: We expect to take it. You know, when we know 328 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: that artists are getting bad deals or whatever, well, you know, 329 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: like Chappelle was bringing up, or like many many people 330 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: in the music industry brought up, we still go, yeah, 331 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: I'm listening to the music, this is my part of 332 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: the bargain, and kind of fuck you. If you got 333 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 2: a problem with this, that's too bad. You know, people 334 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: got people clowned Megan thee Stallion when they found out 335 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: her deal. Her first deal wasn't too good. Like, you know, 336 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: it's very much a selfish type of mentality that people 337 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: have as fans, and I think, you know, it can 338 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: really become obsessive over these artists. 339 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: Yes, yes it can. And like I say, it's a 340 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: double standard. It's that double standard thing because everybody that's 341 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: talking about them, you show up at your job and 342 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: your boss talking about they not paying you. 343 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 5: Guess what you're not doing. 344 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: You're not performing and you're not working, you're not doing 345 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: whatever task they require you. 346 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: But yet you expect other people to do. 347 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 5: Other things for absolutely positively free for you though. 348 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it should always be there. Uh anyway, I'll 349 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: have to say we're taking a week off. So all right, 350 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: that was reading Rainbow people asking about the Black Friday Special. 351 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: So it does not add to Like if you're a 352 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 2: yearly subscriber and you're like, can I get the Black 353 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: Friday Special, it doesn't add to your thing. It just 354 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: in a year from now, it'll end on Black Friday. 355 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 2: So instead of ending wherever it ends now, it'll end 356 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: on Black Friday. 357 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: So that's the deal. 358 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: It PayPal and our site doesn't add the like this 359 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: is adding to you to your suscription. 360 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 4: Sorry, right, so if you already have it, you can 361 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 4: just redo a new one and when one ends, the 362 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: other one just picks up. 363 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: No, it just that becomes your subscription. It will be 364 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: a year from now, okay, So that's the one. Also, 365 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 2: another note I would like to add to if you 366 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 2: had a recurring subscription or something like that, and then 367 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 2: you sign up for Black Friday, make sure you go 368 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: and PayPal and cancel it, because sometimes PayPal will try 369 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 2: to charge you for both because it doesn't automatically cancel 370 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: the old When I saw most people were canceling their 371 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: old one and. 372 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: Adding the Black Friday, they deal. 373 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: But I just want to make sure because you know 374 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: that people understand it. Yeah, last thing I want is 375 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: anybody you know, getting ripped off of some shit. And 376 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: then also of course that means I have to go 377 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: in there and do all do all the refuzz and 378 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: all the manual stuff, which I'm happy to do, like 379 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 2: I will. You know, I don't never want to take 380 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: nobody's money that wasn't supposed to give. 381 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: It to me, so right, just letting people know if 382 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 4: you're paying monthly and you want to go, be sure 383 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: you cancel your monthly and then. 384 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 5: Do the year. 385 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we just don't get like an update that 386 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: says like they got two subscriptions. 387 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: We only you know, on your account. 388 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: Like people will email me sometimes be like, hey, I 389 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 2: got charged for this thing, and I'm like, let me 390 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: go look at it. 391 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,479 Speaker 3: You're right, here's your money back, you know. 392 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: So Yeah, but all right, let's get into the people 393 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: that took the time out to speaking of money to 394 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: give us some money, okay, because we love we love that. 395 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. Shout out to recession, depression and unemployment because 396 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: Trump is down with all three. Riada may C recurring 397 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: donator Nicholas z MS, Hathaways, Laura E. Oomoni Jones of 398 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: The Evening Jones, Danna R. Tom W JR, Anthony G. 399 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: Michael S, Adam S, Solana S's a whole lot of s. 400 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: Chrishelle M. Nerves in Luxury as of D M. 401 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: Coole F Marvin B. Yes, Marvin B. 402 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: Early Days in Photography, Michael W J four, Trivia T, 403 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 2: Corey B, Adam S, Jeff M, Jonathan H. 404 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 3: Brian B. 405 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: And somebody I put in the wrong thing, okay. Alison H. 406 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 2: Allison nat is a brand new recurring donator. Thank you, Alison, 407 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: go to the new members class. We appreciate you, Okay, 408 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: coming to hang out with your crew. All right, that's 409 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: it for everybody. Thank you so much for these donations. 410 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: All Right, all right, somebody gonna get the hold of goo. 411 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 3: Let me stop. 412 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: We had one five star review on iTunes from Canada, 413 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: Shout out to Canada. 414 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: Laughing instead of crying. 415 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: Five stars is by Paula Howley, who says, I'm a 416 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: fifty two year old white woman from British Columbia and 417 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: my area is so white the polar bears have to 418 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 2: wear sunglasses to protect themselves from the glare. 419 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: Oh that's white. 420 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: I've been listening to the brilliance that is the Black 421 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 2: Artist for four years now. Between Karen's laughing, her relentless 422 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: sense of humor and Rod's killer delivery and timing, I've 423 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: had a ton of fun while learning more than I 424 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 2: ever knew, more than I ever knew I never knew. 425 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: I love the magical and easy report you two have 426 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: with each other. I would love to hear the story 427 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: of how you met. At any rate, this past year 428 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: has been a really tough one, but you're smart and thoughtful. 429 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: Podcast makes me laugh out loud, and I can't tell 430 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: you what that has done for my spirit. I especially 431 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: love the crazy depths to your to which your gallows 432 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: humor descends. 433 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: You have my mad respect. 434 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: In the meantime, I tell all my friends and family 435 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: about this comic gem. I even talk about it on 436 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: my TikTok live stream. Thanks for everything, Roder Carroll loved 437 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: from Paula NBC. 438 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: Yes, and I believe I followed Paula. 439 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: On TikTok because you know, I was trying to find 440 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: some big movie women to find, because that's what JL 441 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: Kevan said it is on TikTok. 442 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going TikTok. I don't understand what. 443 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was looking for you know, look, I'm 444 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: turning my TikTok to my new Instagram. 445 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 3: Okay. 446 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: If it's some Instagram models or something over there, I'm 447 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: on it. 448 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: Okay, trust somewhere, but jail. You know, he was acting 449 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: stingy with the with the acts. 450 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 4: Man. 451 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: I was like, give me specifics because you keep saying 452 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: it's all these big titty mamas and stuff on there, 453 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: and I want to see it. 454 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: Okay. 455 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm not shamed like some of y'all. I want to 456 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: see it and that's what I'm there for, you know 457 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 2: what it is. And I couldn't find any I was 458 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: on TikTok. I kept seeing you know, buff dudes flipping 459 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: over bikes in slow motion, and shit, it was people 460 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: trying to be funny. 461 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: I was like, what the hell is jail covi Han 462 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: talking about? 463 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: But uh, Paula hit me up and was like, I 464 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 2: got TikTok and I got some big old titties. I 465 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: was like, you know what followed? Okay, because that's how 466 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: I get down a man of my word. But thank 467 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: you for all the kind words for the podcast. And 468 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: I know, man, twenty twen has been such a rough 469 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: year for so many people. 470 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 3: But you know, you even get to live. 471 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: And or you get to dine, so you got to 472 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: get out here and try to make it through. And 473 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: I'm glad you appreciate our Gallos humor because it's really 474 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 2: you know, honestly, it's really what we do. 475 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: The Gallows humor. 476 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: All this shit is really sad, but you gotta find. 477 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: Some fun in it, you better, all right? 478 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: We had comments on our website Tips Giving Pod Giveaway podcast, 479 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: so I put the audio for the premium people who 480 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 2: couldn't be there, but the actual crowdcast is still up. 481 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: You can still go watch that one because we're not 482 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: gonna make it an actual podcast episode, so you don't 483 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: have to worry about that being on Spotify or whatever, 484 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: but you can go listen to it. We play music 485 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: and games, and we had a talk to our fans directly. 486 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: Every people came on screen with us told us what 487 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: they felt. 488 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: We are so thankful for our fans, what they felt 489 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 2: thankful for and all that stuff. 490 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: So we had a couple of comments. 491 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: Wan Ganghi says, thanks, Rod, I was really bummed about 492 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: missing this. 493 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: But double Time paid for twelve of ours is a loud. 494 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: Voice winki face emoji. Listen. 495 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: I know that black Out Tips has got some loyal fans. 496 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: I don't think we got shipped on Double Time paid though, 497 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: and I really don't feel like you know, oh oh. 498 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 3: I understand double double time pay wins every time. 499 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 2: I hope you don't think we offended at all, because 500 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: we are absolutely not offended at all. 501 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: We're not paid for double time. 502 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, two times handed your business. 503 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: You can listen, We'll be okay, okay, because the double 504 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: Time pay hit listen. Very few things as motherfucking influential 505 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: is at that time and a half and that double 506 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: time holiday pay Trey Wright saying thank you Rider Karen 507 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: so much for this fun episode. Man, the love was 508 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: felt by all of us, and I personally can't thank 509 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 2: y'all enough for how you have helped me in my 510 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: own life, whether it's dealing with personal issues, the pandemic, 511 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: or just want to be a decent human being in 512 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: the world that isn't so decent. You guys helped me 513 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: stay sane in the insane world. Thanks so much for 514 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: that much love always, Trey, Thanks Trey, appreciate you. Let's 515 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: get into the actual episodes of the week. Podcast Side 516 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: Chicks was our feedback episode. No comments on this one, 517 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: but we did have a poll, and a poll had 518 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: a comment on it. Will you take the coronavirus vaccine? Yes, 519 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: but after it's been out a while. Yes, soon as 520 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: it's out or no, never care. 521 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 5: Yes as soon as is out. Because a nigga is tied. 522 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: My views have changed because initially I was like, nigga, 523 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to see because I was one of 524 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: them people. I was like, oh Trump pushing this. 525 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 5: Oh it's gonna be on some bullshit like that. 526 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 4: I don't, I mean, and I felt that I and 527 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 4: to an extent, I felt justified in that because I 528 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 4: was like, he don't tell you shit, how do I 529 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 4: know he not trying to do then this is no 530 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: prior to the election and all that shit. I was like, Oh, 531 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: he just pushing this shit out just to try to 532 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 4: get the vaccine. 533 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 3: Out before and all that other bullshit. 534 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: So I was like nine. 535 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 4: But then once I heard Fauci and some of the 536 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 4: other people that I actually trust, they got some goddamn 537 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 4: common sense talking about it, I was like, Oh, okay, okay, 538 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: because I know if y'all get shot and died, that's 539 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 4: gonna be different than me, you know. But it's like 540 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 4: y'all gonna y'all have access to a wind before the 541 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 4: average person, so you know, for me, And it's so 542 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: many different versions of it, so I'm like, uh, yes, 543 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: it is a sped up process, don't get me wrong, 544 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 4: but it's a sped up process because so many people are. 545 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: Dying, you know. 546 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: And even and even once after these vaccines get out bleed, 547 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 4: trust they're gonna start working on cures like something where 548 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 4: they could go, here is a shot, and this is 549 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: a cure, or either they gonna make it, whether the 550 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 4: vaccine is like a once a one shot every so 551 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: many times a year or years where you don't have 552 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 4: to have the boosters and all that stuff. This is 553 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 4: gonna be a continual process. 554 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will be first in line. I'll push, let 555 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: it down and fly the stairs to get to this first. Honestly, 556 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: even when it was Trump, I was gonna take it 557 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 2: first because it's not him making. 558 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: He didn't do. 559 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 2: Shit with this, like just because he talks a good game, 560 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: but you have to know he's a liar. I keep 561 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: telling people this nigga is a war on reality. So 562 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 2: he have you thinking stupid shit because he is lying 563 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: all the time. So you go, oh, I don't want 564 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 2: to know if vaccine, if Trump got something to do 565 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: with it, he don't got shit to do with it. They 566 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: sit up, They're like, no, we the scientists also don't 567 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: want him involved. 568 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: No, they don't. Like They're like, please stay. 569 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: The fuck away and shut the fuck up, you know 570 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 2: what I mean. Like, I'm glad that Biden won the 571 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: election in a large part because sanity will return to 572 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people who are acting who got gas 573 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: lit by this dude, and they'll be able to finally go, 574 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: oh yeah, of course I would take a vaccine. 575 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: I take my flu shot every fucking year. 576 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna, you know, because of what people with 577 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 2: everyone who goes I'm. 578 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: A wait a while, or I'm not gonna take it. 579 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 2: All you're really saying is I want to get coronavirus 580 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: and die. I want to get sick. That's all you're saying. 581 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: Because those are the options. It's not like we have 582 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: a bunch of options in here. The options are you 583 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: get protected and you can go back to your normal life, 584 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: or you live like this for fucking ever, or you 585 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: get sick, and then with the numbers that are about 586 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: to go up, you may even get sick doing the 587 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: right shit and eventually, so yeah, motherfucker's gonna have to 588 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: go ahead and get it, dog. 589 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 3: I know they think they're not going to. 590 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 2: And what's gonna be funny is when it come out, 591 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna flip the polarity on it, cause a lot 592 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: of people going, I don't know, I'm gonna get it. 593 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: But when you're gonna find out, this ain't gonna be 594 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: enough for everybody to get it. So it's about to 595 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: really flip up on motherfuckers, and it's gonna be it's 596 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of people that went I don't 597 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: know if I feel like getting it to like, can 598 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: I get it? I hope I should get this shit. 599 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: Oh they got it today. Oh I heard you know, 600 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: I just got up. It's gonna be like a PS five, 601 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: I just got it. I just gotta text alert that 602 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: they got some they got some astro centacor. 603 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: Down there at the motherfucking doctor. I'm gonna be right back. 604 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 4: You're gonna have to get you had to get the app. 605 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: The robot's gonna come and just buy and buy them 606 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 4: all up. 607 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't know, Like because the other thing 608 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 2: is once the vaccine hit jobs are gonna be like 609 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: come to work now, shit like that. 610 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: Like it's not like it's I'm gonna care if you 611 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: got a shot. They're gonna be like, look, most of 612 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: you got it, bring your ass back to work. Yeah. 613 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: Not to mention, there's a lot of people where the 614 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: numbers have gone up because evictions and the economy and 615 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: stuff have driven people's numbers up. They haven't been in 616 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: situations where it's a privilege to be able to social isolate. 617 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: That's really what this is about. It's a privilege to 618 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: be able to. 619 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: Social distance and isolate in a large part. Now, some 620 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: people look that privilege in the face and go whatever, 621 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go out here and tonuk its some fucking 622 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 2: telephone polls. But a lot of us have been privileged 623 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: to be able to live this way. But jobs and 624 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: companies are not gonna let. 625 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: People do this forever. 626 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: That at some point they're gonna be like, it's a vaccine, 627 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: either fucking get it or don't, and I bet I 628 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: guarantee you another thing. 629 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: A lot of. 630 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: Companies gonna put that shit in their motherfucking like employment 631 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: like requirements like you can't come I'm in here without 632 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: this fucking vaccine because what we don't want is an 633 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 2: outbreak at our job. So I just think people are 634 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 2: not thinking very smartly because we let this man drive 635 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: our country crazy. So we're saying shit that we This 636 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: is why I say it's not that much difference between 637 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: like MAGA and the woke people on the left. It's 638 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: a lot of that shit is a circle, like it's 639 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: overlapping because a lot of that mentality is the same. 640 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: Don't trust the government, only listen to this person or 641 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: that person. 642 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 3: Like a lot of that shit. 643 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: Is the same. We're just listening to different people. 644 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 5: That's true. 645 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: And I didn't even think about that, but yeah, eventually 646 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 4: it is gonna They was like, look, we either if 647 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: they gonna be like, if you are a current employee, 648 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: you got x amount dates to get this shit, that 649 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 4: you're gonna lose your job, And then they're gonna be 650 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: like any new and higher you got to take that shot. 651 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: I could see them putting it in their bilocks. 652 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: So it's like, we don't want this foolishness. You know, 653 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: I want to get it. 654 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: Nurses, yes, and teachers, people like I'm not even on 655 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: some like like I'm joking about I push the old 656 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: lady down. I mean, obviously I want to get it 657 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: as soon as I can get it, but like, and 658 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: for our society to work, honestly, all the people that's 659 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: talking about I don't want to get it. 660 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: You shouldn't even be able to get in line to get. 661 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: It because you you. 662 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: Just gonna have to keep risking this rona for a 663 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 2: little bit longer. Because we got a whole lot of 664 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: people that's doing a lot of work for the public 665 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: that should be priority number one. In addition to being 666 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: able to be super spreaders because of their jobs, whether 667 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: you're a bus driver or MTA worker or whatever, you 668 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: also are highest at risk because. 669 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: Of your jobs. 670 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: And I do think those people should get it before me, 671 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: before can before a lot of people, you know, people 672 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: that older, people that are risk, people that live in 673 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: these living centers and stuff where we have outbreaks that 674 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: kill forty fifty sixty one hundred people. Those people deserve 675 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: to get it first. So it's you know, it's like 676 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 2: a tongue in cheek thing to be like, are you 677 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: gonna get it? But your ays need to get it. 678 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: I add, and then for some job, even if they 679 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: have converted to allow you to stay at home, I 680 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 4: can still need to be in the requirement that go. 681 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 3: We don't give a damn if you're at home and. 682 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: Not you bet, that's almost nobody works completely remotely. It's 683 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: still gonna be like we have accompanying, meaning we have 684 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: some function, the Christmas party. It's gonna be reasons they 685 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: want to see you in person sometimes. 686 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 3: So anyway, the poll was yes. 687 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: After it's been out for a while, seventy percent of 688 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: people think they're gonna wait till. 689 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 3: It's been not a while. Yes, soon this is out. 690 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 2: Thirty percent of people are like me and you, and 691 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: one percent basically said no, never man, you know, feel. 692 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: Luck to them. 693 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: Ali Marjoe says, you are absolutely correct when it comes 694 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: to Mama's and Grandmama's not passing down to full recipe. 695 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: You know what's interesting with this The polls often have 696 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 2: answered have comments that relate to the shows, and the 697 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 2: shows often have answers on the website have have comments 698 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: that relate to the poll. 699 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: It's so weird that it gets reversed. 700 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is that makes us happen, 701 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,239 Speaker 2: but okay, so anyway, I've seen both my mama and 702 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: my grandma do this with my own eyes. When I 703 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: was little, I heard my mama tell one of her 704 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: friends how to make sauce for meatballs. She left out 705 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: like two ingredients and added one that she didn't even use. 706 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: When she hung up, I asked. 707 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: Her why she did that. She said, Hell, they ain't 708 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: finna have my recipe that I figured out with their 709 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 2: little sauce. Their little sauce will be all right, I 710 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 2: bet everybody at that baby shower have meat balls and 711 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 2: taste of like miss Pumpkins, but was missing something. 712 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: Shaking my damn head. 713 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: Ain't that how they do? I'm on to these old ladies, Okay, 714 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: I know y'all ain't passing down to dress the recipe. 715 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: I know what's up. Not selickt grandma. 716 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh oh, so I'm supposed to put brown sugar in 717 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: these in these collar greens, that's word, that's what's in here. 718 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: I ain't been eating these all my life. I know 719 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 2: what you're doing. Episode twenty two, twenty. 720 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: Seven Will Smith fault. We had one comment by I. 721 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: Believe it's a verol e kid e k. I hope 722 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 2: I said that right. I probably did not, and I'm sorry. 723 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for your discussion about guilt and shame in 724 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: this episode, such an important topic. I finally watched Red 725 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: Table Talk, motivated by your praise for it. 726 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 3: Here, Rod. 727 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: I had been reluctant to watch it because it's on 728 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: Facebook and I tried to stay off that platform, and 729 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: the idea of watching the full episode of a show 730 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: on there was very unappealing. 731 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: But I was wrong. 732 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 2: Hey, let me give you a for those that I 733 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 2: guess if you have an Xbox, maybe some smart TVs 734 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 2: maybe this works on that too. 735 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 3: But what I do? 736 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: I have an app on my Xbox called Facebook Watch, 737 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: and you can go on to Facebook Watch app and 738 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: watch stuff. 739 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 3: Like Red Table Talk. 740 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: I follow some other content creators, Supreme Dreams One and whatnot. 741 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: And that way you don't have to actually be on Facebook. 742 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 2: You're not interacting with people and leaving comments or reading 743 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 2: what people. 744 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: Have to say. 745 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: You can just watch it for yourself and you don't 746 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 2: even need to like see what so and so said, 747 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: or who liked or disliked this? 748 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 5: Right, that's good, But. 749 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: I was wrong. 750 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: This show is so good even watch the Entanglements episode, 751 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: which really wasn't as embarrassing as the means that led 752 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: it to believe. It was actually so beautiful and honest, 753 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: I really admire Will and Jada so much after watching Rod. 754 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 2: Have you watched the Brene Brown episode of Red Table Talk? 755 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: I wondered if you've read her books or watched her 756 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 2: ted talk or interviews. She is a shame researcher that 757 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: explores widespread assumption about vulnerability, how people misunderstand it as weakness, 758 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 2: or how leaders like managers can exploit it use it inappropriately, etc. 759 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 1: She has this quote from. 760 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: Theodore Roosevelt that she uses in her book Daring Greatly 761 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: about the Man in the Arena that I think resonates 762 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: with what I hear you all saying about how to 763 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 2: move through the world and communicate with other folks. A 764 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 2: copy and paste below in case you're interested, but basically 765 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: Brown says, it comes down to if you're not in 766 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: the arena, if you're not doing the work and put 767 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 2: yourself out there for the same type of criticism you 768 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 2: are trying to give, then your opinion does not matter 769 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 2: to me anyway. 770 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: Thank you for your continued. 771 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 2: Conversations about Shane Giltkom and for making it funny. It 772 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 2: is absolutely all Will Smith's fault us. First of all, 773 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: I have not read Brene Brown. I've heard of her, 774 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: I haven't seen her Red Table Talk. I did queue 775 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: it up to watch after I read your comment earlier, 776 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 2: so I will save it and watch an episode. Oh, 777 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: let me know if you're interested in Brene Brown and 778 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: haven't read in her stuff yet. I've been wondering if 779 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: I should give you all some of her books in 780 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: audio and ebook formats. 781 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: Yo. 782 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 2: I'll add it to my Amazon wish list, so you 783 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: can send it. I know Amazon will let you send 784 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 2: it via Kendle through our email address to blackoutistat gmail 785 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: dot com. People do that all the time, and uh yeah, 786 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 2: I'll add it to my list. 787 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: Man. 788 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: You know, I'm always looking for something that's a little 789 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: more introspective and makes me think. Also, did you see 790 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: the family medical results Red Table Talk episode Jada had 791 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: a parasite. What apparently eight percent of the population has 792 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: parasites even though they're rich. The whole family has stomach problems. 793 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 2: Got me thinking about my own. 794 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 3: Gut Flora and Roosevelt quote. 795 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 2: It is not the critic who counts, Not the man 796 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 2: who points out how the strong man or woman stumbles. 797 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 3: Or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. 798 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: The credit belongs to the man who is actually in 799 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 2: the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat 800 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 2: and blood, who strives valiantly, who airs, who comes short 801 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 2: again and again because there is no effort with our 802 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 2: error and shortcoming, But who does actually strive to do 803 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: the deeds, who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who 804 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best 805 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 2: knows in the end, the triumph of high achievement and 806 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: who at the worst if he fails, at least he 807 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 2: fails while daring greatly. 808 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: That's a dope quote. I had not heard that before, 809 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 3: but yeah, that's a I mean, that's some real shit though. 810 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: I do think that's kind of what a lot of 811 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: what our internet culture has turned into. 812 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: Just people that. 813 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: Everyone says they know better than the people who are 814 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,959 Speaker 2: doing the thing, because the experts in the field, because 815 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: I'll never be expected to do it, you know, I 816 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: don't even And I try to keep that in mind 817 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 2: when I talk about shit too. Like sometimes I know 818 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 2: people think, I go, I don't even know that they 819 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 2: think this. I assume they think this because I see 820 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 2: what other people think and say and stuff on Twitter 821 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 2: and on the podcast and shit. But I know there's 822 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: an idea that or there's an atmosphere out there that 823 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 2: I don't want to match of. I'm gonna go just 824 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 2: as hard on everybody as y'all do, because one, I 825 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: think it's corny, and it becomes this thing where we're 826 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: trying to outdo the next person with how hard and 827 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: cynical we can see everything. 828 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 3: So I think that's a big thing for me. 829 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 1: That I try to avoid. 830 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 3: And then the other thing. 831 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 2: Is I try to be aware of the fact that 832 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 2: I don't know everything. 833 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: And I think what people lose. 834 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 2: Sight of is they'll say these platitudes but they don't 835 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 2: mean them. 836 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: They'll say shit like nobody's perfect. 837 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 2: But then when someone expresses a fucked up opinion and 838 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 2: they lose their fucking minds as if they've never heard 839 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: a fucked up opinion before, or is it that or 840 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 2: if that whole person is now a piece of trash 841 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: to be discarded like a product, like one of the 842 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: reason I don't really one of the reasons I think 843 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 2: it's funny when people bring up cancel culture, especially those 844 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 2: to say it's not real, because you know, there's a 845 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 2: bunch of reasons why it's real, but it's not as 846 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 2: effective as you will, like agree, But if it was 847 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 2: as effective as you will, like, that's that's. 848 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 3: Not a world I want to live in. 849 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 2: I don't like. I actually don't look forward to the 850 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 2: world where we just say this person is quote unquote 851 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 2: canceled and it really does mean that, you know, So 852 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 2: I like, I kind of do think that people should 853 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: be able to fuck up, And I think also distance 854 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: from the fuck up can lead people to either a 855 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 2: think about how they fucked up and come back and 856 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 2: maybe even improve or get better. 857 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 3: But then b it. Lets you know how. 858 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 2: Not important some of this shit is that you're attached to, right, 859 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: And I think I think we should keep that in mind, 860 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 2: where it's like, I don't agree with this person. Here's 861 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 2: why this point that they're making is fucked up. I 862 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 2: don't think anything's wrong with pointing that out. But then 863 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 2: it's like we have to take it to the next level, 864 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 2: and there's like such a performative reactionary. 865 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 3: Community that people are trying to find. 866 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 2: And that's why you end up because what happens is 867 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 2: we have turned consumption into virtue. And what I mean 868 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 2: by that is we are now saying the things I 869 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: consume are what make me a virtuous person, good or bad. 870 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 2: So if I eat Chick fil A, I am bad. 871 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 2: If I don't eat Chick fil A, I am good. 872 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: That's why people lie when someone that they like fucks up, 873 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: and they lie and go. 874 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 1: That person was never good. 875 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 2: You know, Kevin Hart makes some stupid ass jokes or 876 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 2: whatever his last special and then goes on clubhouse and 877 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: gets into it with some people on Twitter and the 878 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 2: issues a video and they go, I never thought he 879 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 2: was funny. 880 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 3: Never. 881 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, so this dude don't made billions of 882 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: fucking dollars somehow because no one thought he was funny, right, 883 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: Kanye West? Kanye West Grammy winning Platinum Artists multiple times, 884 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: because no one ever liked his music. 885 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 3: We always knew he was whack. You know. 886 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: It's that kind of thing where it's like. 887 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 2: You could it's because we're virtue signaling, because we're looking 888 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 2: to other people to go, look at me, Look how 889 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,839 Speaker 2: much better I am than the Kardashians. 890 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: Because I hate them. 891 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 2: I must be a great person If I can point 892 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 2: out that they're a flaw person, that makes me a 893 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: flawless person. And when I do present a flaw, I 894 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: get I get dog pout on, you know. And for 895 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: most people, they can afford to live that way because 896 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 2: they will never be on the Summer Jam screen never. 897 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 3: They don't. 898 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: They're not they are not what's the best word to 899 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: put because I don't want to put a value judgment 900 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: on it, but just they're not. 901 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 1: Popular. 902 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: They're not popular enough, they're not viral enough to be 903 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: considered a person that needs to be held to some 904 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: higher standard than what we hold other people too. But 905 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 2: everyone is a person, so there is no real like 906 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 2: if you have a million people who listen to your opinion, 907 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 2: or a thousand people, or one hundred people or ten 908 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 2: or one, your opinion is your opinion. But there's a 909 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: certain level people get to where we go no, no, no, 910 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: you can't have that opinion because I liked you, or 911 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 2: I want to like you, or I heard of you, 912 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 2: and now you know, you don't get to have the 913 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 2: opinion you had when you had one hundred people. 914 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,400 Speaker 3: But that's not how people work. 915 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 2: You know, everything they've gotten they've gotten there by the 916 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 2: fact that they're like that. So you know, So anyway, 917 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 2: all that stuff to kind of say, like, I think 918 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: that's why we end up in these situations where people 919 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 2: are so attached to like this person must be an evil, 920 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 2: cynical person, like this is the worst way to take this. 921 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 2: This must be how this person is. And it's like 922 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to subscribe to that because there's too 923 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,399 Speaker 2: much of that out there. And I do think on 924 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 2: a deeper emotional level, I think it is harming us. 925 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 2: I think it is emotionally fucking up our brains. I 926 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: think too much of that. We have swung the pendulum 927 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 2: too far the other way. It went from like forgiveness 928 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,439 Speaker 2: porn to where a motherfucker can be like I called 929 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: her a nigger, but I don't have a racist bone 930 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 2: in my body. It went from that and it's like, 931 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 2: well do you forgive them? Like we went all the 932 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: way from there where we were like that's cool, we 933 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: know that's wrong. Leave that person alone and that person 934 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 2: is fucked up to all the way to this other 935 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 2: end where somebody does something beautiful like this, Where did 936 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 2: both parties feel like they got closure? 937 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 3: Where you know? 938 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: And of course there's a product. It's a TV it's 939 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 2: a TV show, so it's a product. It's not like 940 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 2: we walked in their house and eavesdropped on them. They're 941 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 2: showing both of them are showing us what they want 942 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 2: us to see. So but it's like we walked into 943 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 2: a scenario like that where we can't even allow that 944 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 2: there could be multiple things that work here. 945 00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 3: It's like, nope. 946 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 2: Will Smith is an evil, light skinned man that at 947 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 2: twenty one years old, knew he would ruin this thirty 948 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: four year old woman's career. Knew she was being beaten 949 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, knew about her contract dispute, knew hated 950 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: her because she was dark skinned and he was going 951 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 2: to destroy her. And now he just wants y'all to 952 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 2: like him because he want to do this reunion. It's like, 953 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: that is one way to look at that, the most 954 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 2: cynical possible way of looking at that, in my opinion, 955 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 2: and that becomes the narrative for a lot of people because, 956 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: as the therapist said in that interview well with Will Smith, 957 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 2: she was like, people's stories serve a purpose. So the 958 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 2: question I always look at is what does that story 959 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 2: hold up for you? 960 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 5: Yes? 961 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, what structures are held in place by you? 962 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: Going I have to walk into this and walk out 963 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: of it? 964 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 2: Saying Will Smith is an evil piece of shit, and 965 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: Janet Hubert who said a bunch of wild shit over 966 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: the twenty seven years, and you'll never hear people bring 967 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 2: this shit up anymore. But we'll we go. We don't 968 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 2: need to talk about that. Those moments were fine, you 969 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean? And that's the things I've learned 970 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: from conflict is not abuse. It's the things like these 971 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: are the things I've had to learn. You know, like 972 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: learn dealing with you once. Once I dealt with somebody 973 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: who was a narcissist that targeted me. It changed the 974 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: way I look at shit, you know, because I was like, 975 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 2: let me back up, Maybe maybe there's more complexity to 976 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: this story than just me going good versus bad. 977 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: You know, so all that shit combines for me, yes. 978 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,800 Speaker 4: And everything isn't that couldn't dry. But people want things 979 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: to be that simple because the simpler it is, the 980 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 4: more you can pick size, the more you can pick teens. 981 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 4: And people have taken that team's thing from social media 982 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 4: and they have driven it into sometimes their real lives 983 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 4: where things are just very, very simplified, even though they 984 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 4: know people are very complex, you know, just like when 985 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 4: people you say that birthrue signal. A lot of people 986 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 4: do that when it comes to billionaires and millionaires. You know, 987 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 4: they feel like, oh, you're a billionaire. All of a sudden, 988 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 4: you were an even motherfucker and. 989 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 3: You got that money. You you beat a kid to 990 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 3: get that money. That's not always true, but we just 991 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 3: people just make that a slump. Think it was last week. 992 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, one of the dumbest fucking takes 993 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life was Dolly Parton's a 994 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,959 Speaker 2: good person because she gives away enough money that she's 995 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 2: not technically a billionaire. 996 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 3: But I'm like, so a nine. 997 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 2: Hundred millionaire, it's somehow virtuous if she had if somehow, 998 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 2: let's say, before she gave the money away when she 999 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: was a billionaire, we decided she's a good person. But 1000 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,959 Speaker 2: she wouldn't have given away just enough to get under 1001 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 2: a billion she's a bad person. Like or maybe the 1002 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,720 Speaker 2: fucking money doesn't mean you good or bad, right, Maybe 1003 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 2: what you do as a human being determines what kind 1004 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 2: of fucking person you are, And maybe we should be 1005 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: looking at that and not just as people's pockets, because 1006 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 2: it's not that fucking simple. It's not as simple as 1007 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: someone's a celebrity, therefore they're a bad person. 1008 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 3: The one's famous they're for the they're a bad person. 1009 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 3: Like that's not fake. 1010 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: But you know why we believe that. 1011 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: You know why people promote that because it means that 1012 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 2: since they don't have that money, they. 1013 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 3: Are a good person. 1014 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 2: If you flip how the people judge folks, what they're 1015 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 2: essentially saying is because I am not these things, I 1016 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 2: am a good person. And everyone who is these things 1017 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 2: is a bad person, So you're life skinned bad person. 1018 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: I'm not life skinned good person. You're you're tall bad person. 1019 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 3: I'm not tall. You know you're rich. 1020 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 2: And it's like, it's not that simple because I don't 1021 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 2: had short, broke, not light skinned. 1022 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: People do fucked up shit to me too, sir. Everybody has. 1023 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 2: You don't know. People are individually kind of uh out 1024 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,720 Speaker 2: there for the for them on their own, and you 1025 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,759 Speaker 2: have to find out individually how they are. There is 1026 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: no collective rule, but you know what exists that functions 1027 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 2: on those collective rules and understandings. 1028 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 3: The Internet. 1029 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 2: The Internet has made it so simple, so we like 1030 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 2: to lean into that because because the Internet isn't nuanced. 1031 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: Right on Twitter, you either block them or you mute them, 1032 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: or you don't. 1033 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 2: There's no in between stage, Like I want to see 1034 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 2: some of the things they say, but not all the 1035 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 2: things they say, right, So you either have to go 1036 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 2: completely one way or completely to others. It's just the 1037 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 2: way that things are. That is how people want to 1038 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,240 Speaker 2: set up rules for life. 1039 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: Oh this, you know what? 1040 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 2: I thought so and so as a good person, But 1041 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 2: then I saw them listening to a Kanye West album 1042 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 2: and I'm like that. 1043 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 1: So they're a bad person now, well or what? 1044 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,760 Speaker 2: It doesn't really like that to me doesn't really register 1045 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 2: on good or bad, you know. So I think that 1046 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 2: we're trying to escape that, we're trying to escape that messness, 1047 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 2: that murkiness. And I love that our show walks into 1048 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 2: that messingess and mrkinness and goes nah, because even with 1049 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: the Will Smith Janet Hubert thing, I walked away and said, 1050 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: there's a world where, you know, Will Smith really is 1051 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 2: just a complete asshole and just manipulated everybody. 1052 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 3: There's also a. 1053 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 2: World where Janet Hubert could be the asshole and manipulate everybody. 1054 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: Only thing I know is from what I saw in 1055 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 2: the interaction the same way everybody else did. And what 1056 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 2: I thought was, Wow, this is refreshing media content because 1057 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 2: it's unlike most media content, and most people at this 1058 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 2: point worship the grudge like it's a deity, and we 1059 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 2: want everyone to worship the grudge with us, and we 1060 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 2: actually get a little disappointed when someone does let something 1061 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 2: go because it's like, damn, do I have to let 1062 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 2: it go? How do I find a way to hold 1063 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 2: on to it while they let it go? And found 1064 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 2: healing in peace. 1065 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 4: Yes, because at the end of the day, what I've 1066 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 4: realized about a lot of shit is that people are 1067 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,440 Speaker 4: addicted to judgment. 1068 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:34,799 Speaker 3: That's all it is. 1069 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 4: For a lot of people, they are very judgmental to everybody. 1070 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 4: Their husbands, their wives, the significant others, their children, everybody 1071 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 4: can be judged with them because the second the critique 1072 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 4: that they put out Because the thing is, when you online, 1073 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 4: particularly if you online a lot, you have a personality, 1074 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 4: and your personality comes out being get fakeer. 1075 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,399 Speaker 3: Real, But you have a personality online, and. 1076 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 4: So the critique that you put out there, and the 1077 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 4: nastiness and the fits role that you put out there 1078 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 4: towards celebrities, towards just normal common people, when people turn 1079 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 4: around and come at you with the ounce of that 1080 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 4: same critique, people fall apart. Well, then the thing is 1081 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 4: you are addicted to the judgment because the judgment makes 1082 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 4: you feel superior. The judgment makes you feel better. And 1083 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 4: I'm not above that. I'm not saying that I am, 1084 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 4: but I try to be aware of this and ask myself, 1085 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 4: why is this thing that important to me? 1086 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 3: Or why do I feel this way? 1087 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 4: Do I feel this way because I feel justified and 1088 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,479 Speaker 4: whatever this is, or do I feel this way? 1089 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 3: Because I actually feel. 1090 00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 4: Better because I can look down on this person and 1091 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 4: have some form of judgment towards this person because I 1092 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 4: don't participate in whatever the behavior is. 1093 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the main thing I took away from that 1094 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: thing is I don't know one hundred percent of what 1095 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 2: they know and don't know about each other. 1096 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 3: Correct. I'm allowing for the. 1097 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 2: Idea that there's a bunch of shit at play, But 1098 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 2: to me, it felt like they both kind of were right. 1099 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 2: They both had a point and for the things, you know, 1100 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 2: my own projections and own conjecture from watching that, I. 1101 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 1: Was like, I can see how that situation. 1102 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,479 Speaker 2: Can happen, and I can see why it's no, it's 1103 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 2: nobody's actual like quote unquote fault in the way that 1104 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 2: people see fault like where it's like yes, because at 1105 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 2: twenty one, most of us could have made that similar mistake, 1106 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: similar misunderstanding, and you actually do have to get older, 1107 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 2: and you actually do have to know and make some 1108 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 2: other relationships and read and learn some other things before 1109 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 2: you can even see that kind of shit, Before you 1110 00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 2: can see what you didn't see, you need the ability 1111 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: to see that shit later, and a lot of times. 1112 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 2: It's when it happens when you late in life, you 1113 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 2: don't you know, there's a lot of us that only 1114 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 2: through hindsight can look at that and be like, damn, 1115 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 2: I was wilding at that age. I didn't even think 1116 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 2: of it, but I was kind of dismissive of this shit. 1117 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 2: Some people can go back two years and be like, 1118 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: I was very dismissive of people who made this point, 1119 00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 2: and now I look back and I'm like, fuck, I 1120 00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 2: really didn't know what the fuck I was talking about. 1121 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 2: And the things I said at that moment and the 1122 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 2: things I did and treated people at that moment were 1123 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: probably really fucking harsh because I did not know better. 1124 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 2: And that's the grace I would give everybody at that 1125 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 2: fucking age. It's wild to hear people that believe in 1126 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: prison reform trying to doom people to like it's like 1127 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 2: they don't believe in And that's why I say, it's 1128 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 2: always incongruent to me when I hear people ranting and 1129 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 2: raving about prison abolition and prison reform and shit, I'm like, 1130 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 2: you full of shit because you believe in the social. 1131 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 3: Death penalty for people. 1132 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,400 Speaker 2: I literally believe in one faux pas, fucks you up forever, 1133 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 2: you know. Like one of the people I was talking to, 1134 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 2: they was like, well, I believe that he did this 1135 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 2: at twenty one years old or whatever, and I was like, 1136 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 2: I think he did it too. I think he even 1137 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 2: told you he did it right. Now, here's the question 1138 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 2: I have. Is twenty one supposed to doom him for 1139 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 2: life that he made them mistake? 1140 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:56,480 Speaker 5: Like? 1141 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 3: Is are we supposed to stay here forever? 1142 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,720 Speaker 2: Like he's supposed to be fifty be like, but remember 1143 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 2: when you was twenty one? 1144 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 1: Because to me, I don't want to exist in that world. 1145 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 1: Fuck that shit. 1146 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,919 Speaker 2: Because it's the same way I don't think the box 1147 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 2: should be on a fucking application for somebody to get 1148 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 2: a job. 1149 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 3: I don't think we should have a social box on people. 1150 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,439 Speaker 3: That's like, but you. 1151 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 2: Used to have this opinion or you used to do this, 1152 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,439 Speaker 2: Like yes, and I'm apologizing for it, and twenty nine 1153 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 2: years later, I'm like, I'm wrong and I've made, you know, 1154 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 2: amends with this person. Well, fuck that shit. That means 1155 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 2: you worship the grudge. You just don't you want to 1156 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 2: hold onto that. 1157 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 5: Yes. 1158 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 4: And it's also one of those things too, is that 1159 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 4: the people that are talking are around will Smith age 1160 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 4: or you know, get give give a give a few 1161 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,320 Speaker 4: years away. Nigga, nigga, do you remember yourself at fucking 1162 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 4: twenty one and how immature you was at twenty one? 1163 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 4: When I was twenty one, I wasn't concerned about marriage 1164 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 4: and four one ks and real jobs and kids. I 1165 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 4: was not concerned about that at twenty one. I would 1166 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 4: could give a goddamn about somebody talking to like. 1167 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 2: That, Honest to god, if it's so funny, because when 1168 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 2: you listen to people get so self righteous about the shit, 1169 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 2: it's like, dog, if I if I had a film 1170 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 2: of your life, right, if I had the ability to 1171 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 2: go back in your life and every person you've ever 1172 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: touched and go so at twenty one, what kind of 1173 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 2: things were they saying to you about your gender and 1174 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:24,960 Speaker 2: your sexuality? 1175 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 3: What kind of things were they saying to. 1176 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: You about, uh, you know, your immigration status? Like what 1177 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 2: they was on point and woke every moment of their life. 1178 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 2: They you know, when you never had a bitch at work, 1179 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 2: because we've all had that bitch at work. It's a 1180 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 2: running joke, the bitch from work, and we never stop 1181 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 2: and think what was going on in her life to 1182 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,720 Speaker 2: make her be that way. 1183 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 3: Right, not once, not once. 1184 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 1: All of us have that person at work. 1185 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 2: We don't fuck with or whatever that they didn't like us, 1186 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 2: they were mean, they came around ruining the day. We 1187 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 2: have never once said, you know what, let me go 1188 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 2: and go by her desk. 1189 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,800 Speaker 3: And go, hey, it's something going on in your house. 1190 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 2: Not the mission. They might not want to. I mean, 1191 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 2: she's a grown woman, so she want to tell people 1192 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 2: they was what was happening in her house? She she 1193 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 2: wasn't going to. It's not nobody could make her do that. 1194 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,440 Speaker 2: But the idea that there's an expectation of that is 1195 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,479 Speaker 2: only so you can carry this torch for burning. Will 1196 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,720 Speaker 2: smith Y, that's crazy because you know you don't believe 1197 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 2: in that. You know you've had to run in with 1198 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 2: the person. You're like, this motherfucker is an asshole, Like 1199 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 2: they hate everybody at work. Get them the fuck out 1200 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 2: of here. Why did they even keep her here? Damn 1201 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 2: just fired this motherfucker. 1202 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 3: What a dick. 1203 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,160 Speaker 2: We all have had that person, and yet now it's like, 1204 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 2: but why didn't you stop by her house and say 1205 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 2: what is going on? Like, no, none of us do that. 1206 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,839 Speaker 2: Let's be realistic. Here, you know, and so like I said, 1207 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 2: and that's me giving what's funny as people don't see this, 1208 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,439 Speaker 2: that's me giving both of them a benefit. 1209 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 1: Of the doubt. 1210 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:54,919 Speaker 3: Right, only time will tell. 1211 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me giving both of them the benefit of doubt, 1212 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: because I think what's happening is people are done. 1213 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: And that's why I said it was almost gracious of. 1214 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,760 Speaker 3: Will Smith and his company and Red. 1215 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,920 Speaker 2: Table Talk to do all this shit because they literally 1216 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 2: made it be like anything Janet Hubert has ever done 1217 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 2: or said is water under the bridge. 1218 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 5: Right. 1219 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 2: We're not gonna ask for no explanation all the way 1220 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 2: to move. We're not gonna cite any any specific event. 1221 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: We're not gonna say, hey, you blame me for your 1222 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 2: son's suicide attempt. We're not We're not gonna say any 1223 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 2: of that. We're just gonna leave it at that and 1224 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 2: just go. 1225 00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 3: You hold the floor. 1226 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,439 Speaker 2: You That's why I said to me it was magnanimous 1227 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,240 Speaker 2: because essentially what he said is because people are gonna 1228 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 2: walk away with this and still blame me if I'm 1229 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 2: putting this out. I know this right, It's not like 1230 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 2: I'm stupid. I'm a fucking media star and stuff too. 1231 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 2: People are gonna walk away from this and still say 1232 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 2: fuck me, And you know what, that's fine. 1233 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna eat that and that I couldn't do it. 1234 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 4: That that's one thing about life and going through life, 1235 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 4: and something that's very very hard because most people, no 1236 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 4: matter how. 1237 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,880 Speaker 5: Hard they are, want to be accepted. 1238 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 4: And it's very hard for people to deal with the 1239 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,280 Speaker 4: fact that no matter what you say and no matter 1240 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,839 Speaker 4: what you do, somebody is always gonna have a fuck 1241 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 4: you on the other end of it, like no matter that, 1242 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 4: and that's a very hard peal for people to swallow. 1243 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 4: And because people know this, they take that fuck you 1244 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 4: that they've been told in their lives and they projected 1245 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 4: out to other people and they feel like the unforgiveness, 1246 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 4: the harshness, the cruelness. 1247 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 5: Of the world. 1248 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,760 Speaker 4: They take that internally and they projected outward. They projected 1249 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,520 Speaker 4: onto celebrities. Why because I don't have to look this 1250 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 4: celebrity in the eye, I don't have to have these 1251 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,600 Speaker 4: personal interactions instead of me taking personal accountability, like I said, 1252 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 4: doing a lot of that self reflection which I keep 1253 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 4: talking about, instead of me cutting people off of doing 1254 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 4: what I need to do to get my life in 1255 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 4: order I'd rather deal with this chaos and project this 1256 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,600 Speaker 4: chaos outwork. 1257 00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 2: I thought one more thing out there too, because I'm 1258 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: empathetic to this and sympathetic to this for a lot 1259 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 2: of people, it's like black women never get to be 1260 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 2: this way right because the world is so fucked up. 1261 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 2: So it's like, we're gonna just have this woman's back 1262 00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 2: because she's a black woman, and we are gonna skip 1263 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 2: because too often is everybody else gets to kind of 1264 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 2: act the ass whenever they're done wrong and we have 1265 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 2: to look the other way because they had the privilege 1266 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 2: of not being a black woman. So it's like, yeah, 1267 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 2: they were acting up, but you know what, he was angry, 1268 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 2: he was you know, and so here's a chance to say, 1269 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 2: you know, and like I said, Will Smith essentially gave 1270 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 2: her that. I don't know how people keep missing that 1271 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 2: part of the equation because he could have just as 1272 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,560 Speaker 2: easily doctored the. 1273 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: Shit to make him like this bitch crazy but wacky wacah. 1274 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 2: You're like, no, you set up there was like everything 1275 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,919 Speaker 2: you say is right and I'm sorry, my bad and 1276 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 2: even shit he didn't know, I'm sorry for shit he 1277 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 2: didn't know. So so like he ate that shit in 1278 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 2: a way that don't you never see black and get that. 1279 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 2: The last time I saw that was actually on the 1280 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 2: Red Table Talk when they had Jordan what's her name 1281 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 2: there that used to be your Kardashian friend and she 1282 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,959 Speaker 2: kissed Tristan Thompson at a party, and they said, Jordan Woods, Yes, 1283 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:14,840 Speaker 2: she kissed Tristan Thompson at a party. And they set 1284 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 2: up there and let her be like, I'm the victim here. 1285 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 3: Period. 1286 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 2: They didn't. There wasn't no girl, you what the fuck 1287 00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 2: is wrong with you? It was just like, yep, and uh, 1288 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 2: this is what happens. Sometimes people make mistakes and they 1289 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 2: need to chill out like that. 1290 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 1: That's why I liked that space. 1291 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's still a product, and 1292 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 2: I understand what we're getting, all right. The poe is 1293 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,880 Speaker 2: have you has your significant other ever thrown away some 1294 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,439 Speaker 2: leftovers you really wanted to eat? 1295 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 3: No know what's so funny? Yes? 1296 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and we broke up, Yes, and we stayed. 1297 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 2: Together and worked it out. 1298 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 3: No, they've never done that. And I don't have a 1299 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 3: significant other. 1300 00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 5: Care I don't. 1301 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:02,919 Speaker 3: I don't. 1302 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 4: I don't think I know if you've eaten something that 1303 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,160 Speaker 4: I don't want it. 1304 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 5: But I don't think you ever thrown away anything that 1305 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 5: I want it. 1306 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 2: Interesting, but I did throw some shit away over twenty 1307 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:13,880 Speaker 2: something years together. Interesting. 1308 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't think. 1309 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 2: Of any It's almost like it ain't happen anyway. 1310 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 3: I know I would throw some shit out in a heartbeat. 1311 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and we broke up. Six percent of the audience 1312 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 2: broke up with the person. I don't blame you. I'ma 1313 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: be honest I thought about it. 1314 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 3: Thirty percent says yes, and we stayed together and worked 1315 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 3: it out. 1316 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Well, we'll see. I'm working on it now the way 1317 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: I see. 1318 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 2: And forty one percent said they don't have a significant other, 1319 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 2: and twenty five percent said no, they've never done that. 1320 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 3: Oh you lucky signs of guns. Oh I could just 1321 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 3: live in your shoes. 1322 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Dre says my ex never threw away left overs that 1323 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 2: I wanted, but she definitely is eating them. 1324 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 3: Shaking my head. 1325 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: I mean eating them to me is better than throwing 1326 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 2: them away. Throwing them away is no one got to 1327 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 2: enjoy this delicious uh dumplings. 1328 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 3: Nobody nobody got that enjoyed me. 1329 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 2: It's the trash dumplings. 1330 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 3: Now you see what I'm saying. 1331 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 2: I can understand almost eat my food because it's like, well, 1332 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 2: my food was delicious and even I was looking. 1333 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 3: Forward to it. 1334 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,560 Speaker 2: So I get while you want to eat it because 1335 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 2: it's because we both like delicious foods. But throwing it 1336 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 2: in the trash is that's that's just a slapping the 1337 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 2: face of everything you staying for. 1338 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll start asking because I said I have a 1339 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 4: bad Uh. 1340 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know why you made this think of 1341 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: it was about you, Karen? 1342 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,400 Speaker 3: Why else did you ask the pond? 1343 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean no one knew it was about you 1344 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,800 Speaker 2: until you started saying it was about you. 1345 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'm telling them myself, yes it was me, because, 1346 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 4: like I said, I have a clock that ticks, and 1347 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 4: after I see that dish so many times are like, dude, 1348 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 4: this nigga. 1349 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 3: Walk this or not. Literally swear to God, y'all. 1350 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:57,760 Speaker 2: I got the food that night, she threw it away 1351 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 2: next morning because I've been sitting in here so long. 1352 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: It hasn't been sitting here so long. That's a lie. 1353 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 2: Survey says, that's a goddamn lie. 1354 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 3: No, that was my fault. Onto the podcast, that one 1355 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 3: right there was completing my fault. 1356 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 5: But that ain't normally, you know, the. 1357 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 4: Situation, Like I said, I'm gonna do better and ask. 1358 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 4: I had gotten the habit of asking the one time 1359 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 4: I don't ask. 1360 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 2: That's what happened, and thirty y'all actually did stay together and. 1361 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 3: Work it out. Wow, okay, all right? 1362 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 2: He so Ev He says, I only voted no because 1363 01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 2: he doesn't throw my throw my leftovers away, but he 1364 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 2: sure has hellasim next time, I'm gonna put some sugar 1365 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 2: avery p in though, well, Eve, you enjoy that whatevers 1366 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 2: if you don't eat them, and then you just got p. 1367 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 3: Leftovers, guess just the price you gotta pay. 1368 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:58,240 Speaker 2: Episode episode twenty and twenty eight, ask Interfearence. He says, 1369 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,960 Speaker 2: those storytime YouTube videos have made. 1370 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 3: Many people huge on YouTube. 1371 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: I've seen a few. They're very entertaining. 1372 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 2: Crazy thing is this woman probably would have gotten away 1373 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,760 Speaker 2: with it if she didn't steal from someone with seven 1374 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand subscribers. 1375 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Smaller content creators of color are starting. 1376 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 3: From on the regular. Yeah, yep. 1377 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 2: There was a controversy in the makeup community where Patrick Starr, 1378 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 2: a huge makeup Girl with Girl with millions of followers, 1379 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,480 Speaker 2: was accused of stealing from a black woman who also 1380 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,480 Speaker 2: did make up videos but had a smaller following. She 1381 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,720 Speaker 2: did a Yeah I think we talked about this on 1382 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 2: the show a long time ago. She did a style 1383 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 2: called trap editing. 1384 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,040 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. It was a big thing. 1385 01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 2: The stealing won't stop until YouTube actually starts protecting smaller 1386 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 2: content creators. Yeah, I mean it's weird too, because, yeah, 1387 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough because like 1388 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,160 Speaker 2: with trap editing, that might not be something you can 1389 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 2: quote unquote copyright in the way that people think. And 1390 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 2: in many cases, what these smaller YouTubers want is not 1391 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,920 Speaker 2: even you can't use it. 1392 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 5: It's give me my credit, oimes. It's credit. 1393 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 3: You know, that's not a hard that's not a hard. 1394 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,600 Speaker 2: Thing to give people like you have to willfully be 1395 01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 2: a dick to be like I refuse to give you 1396 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: credit for this thing. And people are gonna know where 1397 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 2: I got it from in a lot of cases, or 1398 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 2: even worse, they'll never know where I got it from. 1399 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 3: So it's just, you know, I'm fucking you. 1400 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,880 Speaker 2: You know, you know nobody was doing this before you, 1401 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,960 Speaker 2: and now I'm doing it in my bigger videos and 1402 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 2: people going look at this innovation and it's like, yes, 1403 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 2: I am fucking you because I refuse to just give 1404 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 2: you credit. 1405 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: It's such an asshole thing. 1406 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 2: But you know what, it goes back to the entitlement 1407 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 2: we talked about, because even creators do it to other creators. 1408 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of times I'll talk about conversations 1409 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 2: and stuff and topics out hear from other podcasts. I 1410 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 2: always make a point to mention the podcast you know, 1411 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 2: good or bad normally well. 1412 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes not bad. 1413 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 2: If it's bad, I try not to put their name 1414 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 2: in shit, to be honest, I don't want no beef. 1415 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 2: But if it's good, I always try to be like 1416 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 2: this is where I heard this, Go check it out. 1417 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 2: Because given credit is currency too, you know, we don't 1418 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,920 Speaker 2: have to. I might not be able to throw some 1419 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 2: money at you for for like, yo, this is a 1420 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 2: great episode, but I can be like our fans even 1421 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 2: better than money. Our fans will go listen to it 1422 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 2: and some of them will stay. And now you've gained 1423 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 2: more fans. That's a big thing, you know what I mean. 1424 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 2: It's not gonna ask you to do labor. I would 1425 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 2: never pace on his labor like that necessarily, but still 1426 01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. That I think if people skip 1427 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 2: over a lot of times, giving people credit is not 1428 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 2: It's not hard, and like, what the fuck you think? 1429 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 2: Everybody think you came up with this everything on your channel. 1430 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was fucked up. 1431 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever masturbated in the cemetery? 1432 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 3: Yes? Or no? 1433 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:42,200 Speaker 5: Karen no? 1434 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 3: Okay? Uh have you No? I have not. 1435 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 2: One of my audience says no, even though many left comments. 1436 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 2: Kim Docks says, wow, wow really side note, I've begun 1437 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,919 Speaker 2: saying this just like that Kune nigga, and I gotta 1438 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,680 Speaker 2: say it releaves tension to stress. You gotta try anyway. 1439 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 2: The pole questions and wild are wild right now. 1440 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 3: Lol. 1441 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 2: Getting wet or heard at the cemetery is demon tom 1442 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 2: y lool do you boo boo? 1443 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don porn thing? 1444 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Ms Bond says, did pub pornhub lay everybody off? I 1445 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 2: don't know, ha ha. Are they celebrating Ebony Friday? I 1446 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 2: don't know, probably or Black Friday? 1447 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:27,520 Speaker 3: Your preference. 1448 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 2: Leslie says no, but I've hooked up in a church 1449 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:30,920 Speaker 2: pocketing line. 1450 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 1: Oh, Leslie, do tell you? 1451 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: Freak Shay says I won't and would never, but I'm 1452 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 2: sure I've interrupted a few ghosts, sexy times, ghosts be 1453 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 2: getting it in and nobody can convince me different. 1454 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: That's what I do. 1455 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 2: If nobody can see me like I'm just gonna be 1456 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 2: having sex in the afterlife. Mind your business, don't be 1457 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 2: sauncing me. 1458 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 1459 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 2: The International International Mister Leather episode was twenty two hundred 1460 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,280 Speaker 2: and twenty nine. We talked to Jack Thompson International Mister 1461 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Leather twenty nine. 1462 01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,440 Speaker 3: Team that was Dash Dash Dash because they ain't been 1463 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 3: able to crown a new one yet. Ms. 1464 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Barnes says, I love this interview. One of the many 1465 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,760 Speaker 2: reasons why I love y'all so much is that we 1466 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,280 Speaker 2: get I get to learn something new every time I 1467 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,640 Speaker 2: did not know about Mister International Leather competition. I really 1468 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 2: enjoyed the interview with Jack and got to talk to 1469 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,200 Speaker 2: his husband Jeff in the chat for a spell. Thank 1470 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 2: you again for the spot owned interview. Thank you, we enjoyed, Jackie. 1471 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:25,680 Speaker 3: It was great. 1472 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Marty says, I laught so hard at the intro with Rod. 1473 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 2: Changed it up and said, with your host, Rod and 1474 01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 2: Caeren was taking my surprise, as was I, so her 1475 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 2: reaction was so funny. A little throwback to keep you 1476 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,000 Speaker 2: on your toes Car. I also enjoyed this interview. I 1477 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:43,800 Speaker 2: learned a lot. It was great to hear such a 1478 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,320 Speaker 2: candid question about different aspects and subsets of the LGBTQ world. 1479 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,520 Speaker 2: Learning is always key to better communication and tolerance. I 1480 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,000 Speaker 2: felt like I learned a lot more, a little more 1481 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 2: than I knew before. So I hear someone a family 1482 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 2: member most likely say something bigger than the ignorant, I 1483 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 2: can say, wait, hold on, that's not what you think. 1484 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 3: Cheers Jack. 1485 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. 1486 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. I really enjoyed the interview. 1487 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting because I always walked this line 1488 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,760 Speaker 2: where we I don't want to bring some on on 1489 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 2: the show and make them only a resource for like information, 1490 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:15,680 Speaker 2: like tell. 1491 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 3: Us about this, tell us about that. 1492 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:23,080 Speaker 2: And I hope that people get the humanization and the 1493 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,759 Speaker 2: just discussion between friends too part of it, because I think, 1494 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,599 Speaker 2: in a weird way, that's more important than having people 1495 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 2: on to be resources for information. And I would say 1496 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 2: that about anybody, not just you know, an activist or 1497 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 2: what like when we had l Joy on the show, 1498 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 2: we talked about life stuff too, because I think it's 1499 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 2: important to not just be like, here's this black woman, 1500 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 2: Now tell us about voting, you know, and I think 1501 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,760 Speaker 2: a lot of shows are that, yep, and I don't 1502 01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 2: like those interviews, you know. And then the other thing 1503 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 2: is I just didn't want to do some type of crass, ass, 1504 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 2: bullshit interview that people dude, So I do. 1505 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 3: Research and whatnot. 1506 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 2: Because I don't want to be asking some basic ass, 1507 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 2: intrusive or offensive questions to somebody, but just because they 1508 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 2: come on the show and there and they're different from you, 1509 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 2: because I think that's whack too. 1510 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: When I listen to a show and they're. 1511 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,960 Speaker 2: Like, hey, we got this person on and anyway i'll 1512 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 2: hear you gay tell us about sucking dick or whatever, 1513 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: You're like, what the fuck? 1514 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 3: Like, what kind of question is that? You wouldn't ask 1515 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 3: that of someone else on the show. 1516 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,200 Speaker 1: If they were just head So right, we try to 1517 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: do that. 1518 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 2: But the other thing about Jack though, is he's an 1519 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 2: open book because of his activism and his platform. So 1520 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 2: it's dope having him on to be able to say, like, Okay, 1521 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 2: can you talk to us about the stigma of living 1522 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:47,320 Speaker 2: with HIV and you know, the misinformation that's out there 1523 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 2: because a lot of people I know, I didn't even 1524 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:51,800 Speaker 2: think of it because I was conditioned to grow up 1525 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 2: thinking HIV ooh scary. I was never told like people 1526 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,280 Speaker 2: like when it changed over, They're like, no, people live 1527 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 2: with HIV. People can have they can have an HIV 1528 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 2: positive designation, but also be unable to pass it on 1529 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 2: to somebody else because they have so little of it within, 1530 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 2: because that's how far technology and medicine has come, you know. 1531 01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 2: So those things I think are important for the audience 1532 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,640 Speaker 2: to hear because I know I didn't know all that 1533 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,040 Speaker 2: shit same and then the other thing I didn't want 1534 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 2: to do is just come on and be like, let's 1535 01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,559 Speaker 2: do LGBTQ news. 1536 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 1: So here's some terrible shit that's happening in the world. 1537 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 2: So you know, it was we wanted to have fun, 1538 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,919 Speaker 2: and hopefully people got to have fun. 1539 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 3: I three my favorite part was talking about Star Wars 1540 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:39,920 Speaker 3: the poll. 1541 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 1: Have you ever masturbated by a Popeyes? Karen No, okay, 1542 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 1: all right? 1543 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 2: Yes, three percent of the audience, which means ninety seven 1544 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:51,679 Speaker 2: percent of y'all. 1545 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 3: Have not masturbated by pop Eyes. MS. 1546 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 2: Bond says, I mean that sandwich is good, though, but 1547 01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,840 Speaker 2: let me take it to the house, all right. 1548 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 3: Would have loved to hear from the one person who 1549 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 3: said they did. 1550 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,600 Speaker 2: And then the last episode of the week was The 1551 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 2: Great Adventures of the Press Girl with our Girl Brandy Brown. 1552 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Comedian Marty says, I once again fell behind with episodes, 1553 01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 2: so I played this one as I was falling asleep 1554 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 2: with the intention of re listening tomorrow. 1555 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 1: Somehow, at some point I had a realization. 1556 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 2: I set up in bed and said, wait, is this 1557 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:26,799 Speaker 2: Brandy the comedian I follow on Twitter? 1558 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: And it is. She's the best. 1559 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 2: And now I guess I started following her because of 1560 01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 2: Rod and Karen. Well, I'm such a fan from all 1561 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 2: her cat tweets I'm literally cat sitting right now, to 1562 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,639 Speaker 2: the Minnesota State Fair tweets, to the Jessica Fletcher murder 1563 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 2: she wrote tweets as well as her jokes and life 1564 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 2: observations and the rewatch of Scandal this year. 1565 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:48,519 Speaker 1: I was also very. 1566 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 2: Moved by her thoughts and experience of the George Floyd 1567 01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 2: George Floyd protests in Minneapolis. Well, this episode completely encapsulates 1568 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 2: everything that makes me a fan. Is a real treat 1569 01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,840 Speaker 2: to hear her voice, and I've enjoying this very fun, 1570 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 2: ever more interesting conversation. Still listening, but I had to 1571 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 2: comment before I missed the window of opportunity, seeing as 1572 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,519 Speaker 2: how it's one am and I'm always so late to 1573 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 2: submit feedback. A wonderful ending to another great week episodes. 1574 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, you. We appreciate you, and uh yeah, 1575 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 3: we appreciate Brandy. 1576 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:21,719 Speaker 2: She's a very fun runner for a while now virtually 1577 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 2: and whatnot, so you know, it's cool catching. 1578 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 3: Up with her. 1579 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,599 Speaker 2: And the poll is have you been able to date 1580 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 2: during the pandemic because we talked to her about dating 1581 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 2: in the pandemic and getting on the apps. Yes, no, 1582 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:40,000 Speaker 2: or I'm not currently looking Okay, No, okay, no, you 1583 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 2: have not been able to date. 1584 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:42,799 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not currently looking. 1585 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 3: So Karen apparently is looking but has not been able 1586 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 3: to date. I'm not even looking. Okay, you're looking on dating? 1587 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,560 Speaker 3: What my bad? Well, you know the truth, knowingly be 1588 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:52,559 Speaker 3: the first thing to jump out. 1589 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 2: No. No, fourteen percent say yes they have been dating 1590 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 2: been able to date during the pandemic, which makes it 1591 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 2: I wonder if it's retreads is it new people. 1592 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 3: I wonder how that. 1593 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 2: Goes, because I think it will be easier for me 1594 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 2: to be like I guess I can kind of trust 1595 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 2: this motherfucker. I already fucked with, then for a whole 1596 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 2: new person, but who knows. Then again, I mean, what 1597 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 2: if that the old person? The reason don't fuck with them, 1598 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:15,679 Speaker 2: know most because they was a line piece of shit. 1599 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 1600 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Thirty four percent say no and fifty one percent say 1601 01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm not currently looking. Dre says, I ended a long 1602 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,879 Speaker 2: term relationship eight years in the fall of twenty nineteen, 1603 01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,719 Speaker 2: so my plan was to take some time to myself 1604 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 2: and maybe get back out there dating in the Springs 1605 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 2: last summer twenty twenty. Then when COVID happened, I realized 1606 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,360 Speaker 2: that I'm just going to put dating on hold until 1607 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 2: hopefully this is over. Shae says, for several reasons I have. 1608 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 2: I need to be able to smiff my partner. You 1609 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,200 Speaker 2: can't make sure your partner don't smell like, oh, sniff 1610 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 2: my partner. You can't make sure your partner don't smell 1611 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,919 Speaker 2: like another bitch. If you got a mask on standing 1612 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 2: six feet away. 1613 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 3: Fucks if your sense of smelling. 1614 01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:57,960 Speaker 2: That's true, Shay, that is true. No one really thinks 1615 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 2: about that. But if you get COVID, you have no 1616 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 2: sense of spell. So you want to know if they 1617 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,240 Speaker 2: smell like another bitch until you get the COVID from 1618 01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 2: them and you go, You've been around some COVID bitches. 1619 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 3: Okay, I see. 1620 01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:08,519 Speaker 1: What's going on. 1621 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:15,120 Speaker 2: Something's going on five and the money. 1622 01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 3: Let me smell yo, dick if I can ms. Barn says. 1623 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,280 Speaker 2: So I made the decision in October to day, and 1624 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,599 Speaker 2: I have talked to the most guys in the past 1625 01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 2: few months, and I talked in the past eighteen to 1626 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 2: twenty years, even went out on a few dates social distance. 1627 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 2: Of course, I never thought that in the year of 1628 01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,879 Speaker 2: my Lord twenty twenty, in the middle of a whole pandemic, 1629 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 2: there's someone who will study my ass. 1630 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,360 Speaker 3: Lol. You know, but you know what thing. 1631 01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm wondering though, for a lot of people that appreciate 1632 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,600 Speaker 2: boundaries in their space and shit, this might be the 1633 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,679 Speaker 2: the pandemic might be the fucking come up. 1634 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 3: Cause they was like, I don't have to deal with 1635 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 3: you touching me. 1636 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 4: You know, doubt some people like that, like I don't 1637 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 4: have to deal with you touching me invading my space. 1638 01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:00,960 Speaker 3: Like you know what, we got to get know each other, nigga, 1639 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,160 Speaker 3: the opera? Are we fucking on? The first date? Thing 1640 01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:03,679 Speaker 3: is over? 1641 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,880 Speaker 2: Yes, it is you know, it's like, no, I'm not 1642 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 2: fucking with you on the first date. I'm good. Like 1643 01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, it's over because you asked, you. 1644 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 5: Know, ain't that the truth? 1645 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,879 Speaker 1: So anyway, I just thought that was interested. 1646 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,960 Speaker 2: We did get one voicemail seven O four five five 1647 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 2: seven zero one eighty six the voicemail line riding Karen. 1648 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:29,240 Speaker 6: It's CHRISA at Prosscry on Twitter, just checking in with 1649 01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 6: y'all real quick. I just have to say that, first 1650 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 6: of all, it was so special to have the show 1651 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,519 Speaker 6: with Jack Thompson. You know, so many of us got 1652 01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 6: to meet him at the List show in twenty eighteen, 1653 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 6: and then you know, after meeting him, I connected with 1654 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 6: him on Facebook and so when he became international mister Leather, 1655 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 6: I was definitely part of the celebration online. So to 1656 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,800 Speaker 6: hear the back story was just a special So thank 1657 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 6: you for that. I also want to say, you know 1658 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 6: how I'm always working on trying to be funnier. You know, 1659 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 6: the chat room is, you know, full of people who 1660 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 6: are funnier than me, and uh so I don't always 1661 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,839 Speaker 6: say things as a joke, but I did a racist 1662 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:22,080 Speaker 6: joke during Guess the Race that was striking enough for 1663 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 6: you to pause on it and be like, that was 1664 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,560 Speaker 6: the professor who said that, I won't tell you. 1665 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,680 Speaker 3: That was a very proud moment for. 1666 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 6: Me to do a joke that made you pause. So 1667 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 6: what a special show. Thank you both for everything. Congratulations 1668 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 6: again to Jack, and congratulations to y'all on by the 1669 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 6: side slator later. 1670 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, it was surprising and I 1671 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna out you. That's why I said, just a professor. 1672 01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,400 Speaker 2: Several professors listen to the show, despite what you probably 1673 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 2: would think, but several professors listenin too. 1674 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 4: We've been like, oh you gotta you got degrees with 1675 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 4: letters in behind them. 1676 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 2: I just didn't want to put nobody name to it 1677 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,960 Speaker 2: in case somebody was trying to look for somebody later. 1678 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 3: But since you put it out. 1679 01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 1: There yourself, it was hilarious. 1680 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 3: It is I was. 1681 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Okay, we got people 1682 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:17,320 Speaker 2: here risking their. 1683 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 3: Lives to get these jokes off and we love it 1684 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:20,679 Speaker 3: all right. 1685 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 2: We got emails COVID song shut the fuck up and 1686 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 2: put on the mask, Hey, Rod and Cam. 1687 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I just wanted to show this COVID nineteen hit single 1688 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,680 Speaker 1: and link below the info. Oh man, I can't play this. 1689 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,240 Speaker 2: Sorry, I can't play it, but it's probably if it's 1690 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,559 Speaker 2: not copyright, we don't own it. 1691 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 1: Can't play it, you know, at least not here. 1692 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 3: Check out the pregame next week. Maybe we'll hear it there. 1693 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 2: But it's infuriating to read about the simple things that 1694 01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,799 Speaker 2: the countries are doing and how they are living normal lives. 1695 01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,679 Speaker 1: I doubt the half the half. 1696 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 2: Of the country voted for Trump will cooperate with any 1697 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,800 Speaker 2: of the steps they have worked for other countries. I 1698 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 2: know every day I hear people in my community complain 1699 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,680 Speaker 2: about how the government is trying to make us their puppets. 1700 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:15,080 Speaker 2: We are now the shithold country that come Trump complained about, right, yep, yep, 1701 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 2: John Wright saying article on COVID hospital, Oh yeah, I did. 1702 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 3: Read this article. It's from the Atlantic as long as hell. 1703 01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, we we we've talked about the the hospital 1704 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,120 Speaker 2: nightmare that and shit is about to get way worse. 1705 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,760 Speaker 5: Still going up, y'all. 1706 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:42,120 Speaker 2: Buckle up, y'all, batten down. You know, like we're almost there. 1707 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 2: We've been doing this thing. It'll be a year in 1708 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 2: a few months, but hopefully we're nearing the end of this. 1709 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 2: You know, like this is one of those things where 1710 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:54,080 Speaker 2: you hear about the sacrifices of like the greatest generation 1711 01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 2: and shit, and I'm like, I, shit, ain't even as 1712 01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,400 Speaker 2: bad as them, but. 1713 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 3: Like, we gotta do something to live through this pandemic. Man, 1714 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 3: come on, we gotta do it. 1715 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,040 Speaker 2: Grayson Wright saying, hey, y'all, I'm bad guy that sent 1716 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,519 Speaker 2: you the beat. Karen said it was pretty neat, and 1717 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty neat, But I wanted to 1718 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 2: ask how you felt about the following After I listened 1719 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,880 Speaker 2: to y'all talk about Jennit and will reunion and the 1720 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 2: difference between approaching something from a place of guilt or shame, 1721 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 2: I heard someone talking about on NPR. 1722 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 3: About the same reunion. 1723 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 2: She articulated that Will's damage was irreparable to black female 1724 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,960 Speaker 2: actresses and that there was no way to know what 1725 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,639 Speaker 2: was lost for black female actresses during that those twenty 1726 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 2: seven years. 1727 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 3: I guess for uh Jened she. 1728 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,480 Speaker 2: Said that Will did not go far enough to provide reparations. 1729 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,840 Speaker 2: I feel like that, firstly, it is hard to know, 1730 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 2: and secondly might be a bit unfair. I felt like 1731 01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:46,719 Speaker 2: they are framing the situation that happened in a different 1732 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 2: time in today's context. I've been hurt before and wanted 1733 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 2: someplace to put that blame and anger. But eventually I 1734 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 2: realized that the blame of anger was a weight I 1735 01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 2: carried around. I feel Janet might be in a similar situation, 1736 01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 2: and reunion seemed like a perfect place for that cathartic 1737 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,960 Speaker 2: experience to get to a place of that happened and 1738 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 2: that's okay, what do y'all think, stay allsom Grason, Well, I. 1739 01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 4: About to say it's something we kind of have explained before, 1740 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 4: because it's one of the things where there are a 1741 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 4: lot of people that have been hurt, just like Janet has, 1742 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 4: and they and they're mad, and they're angry, and they're 1743 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 4: justified in their anger. 1744 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 5: And what happens is. 1745 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 4: That resolving this means that they have to let it 1746 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 4: go too, and they refuse to let it go, you know, 1747 01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 4: because now it's not about Jenet no more. It's about you. 1748 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,240 Speaker 3: It's about the you personally. 1749 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 4: After a certain point, it's no longer about the two 1750 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 4: people involved, because this is between Janet and Will. 1751 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 5: This has nothing to do with all us individual people. 1752 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 4: That have lived all these different lives, that have had 1753 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,719 Speaker 4: all these different circumstances projecting, and a lot of times 1754 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 4: people are just projecting, and a lot of times people 1755 01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 4: have not dealt with their own forgiveness, they have not 1756 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 4: up with their own insecurities, you know, And these these 1757 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,479 Speaker 4: feelings are justified. And I do understand what Roderick is 1758 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 4: as bought up when it comes to dark skinned black women, 1759 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 4: you just being at the bottom and everything being powered 1760 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 4: on you and things like that, I completely, one hundred 1761 01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,720 Speaker 4: percent understand. But the reality of it is that at 1762 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 4: some period of time, you have to take accountability and 1763 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,719 Speaker 4: responsibility for your own actions. 1764 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 3: You just have to. 1765 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 5: No matter who you are. 1766 01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,679 Speaker 4: Nigga, you're forty five, nigga, you're fifty, nigga, you're sixty, nigga, 1767 01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:35,840 Speaker 4: you're seventy, at some period of time, you, as an 1768 01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 4: individual person has got to take accountability for your Yes, 1769 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 4: it's fucked up. 1770 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,160 Speaker 3: No it's not fair, No it's not right. 1771 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:43,679 Speaker 1: No, you won't get closer. 1772 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,720 Speaker 3: I understand your hurt, I understand your pain. I understand. 1773 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,240 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes it was. 1774 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,200 Speaker 3: Terrible and it was a tragic thing that happened to you. 1775 01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 4: But at some period of time, it's a it's a 1776 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 4: point of personal responsibility. And I think for a lot 1777 01:21:58,040 --> 01:21:59,679 Speaker 4: of people that run away from that, and it's easier 1778 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 4: to jet and blame everybody else then to be then 1779 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,680 Speaker 4: to have personal responsibility. And this is what happened, in 1780 01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:09,719 Speaker 4: my opinion, when you treat celebes mascots, because the second 1781 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 4: the mascot can't be a mascot no more, you have 1782 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,559 Speaker 4: to justify them continue to be a mascot, even though 1783 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:16,360 Speaker 4: they might have moved on. 1784 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely feel a few ways about it. 1785 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,280 Speaker 2: I think number one, I mean a lot of what 1786 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 2: you said, I do kind of agree with what the 1787 01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 2: idea that it's like she was still gonna be a 1788 01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:34,679 Speaker 2: dark skinned sitcom actress, older sitcom actress, regardless of Will 1789 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 2: Smith would have said, no, fuck it, keep her. We're 1790 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 2: negotiating for all the things that she would have been 1791 01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 2: the fresh Prince of Bella, her mother for seven years. 1792 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 2: So what I did this week was I looked up 1793 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:54,200 Speaker 2: some other women of similar stature at that time, you know, 1794 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:59,880 Speaker 2: like Joe Marie Payton, who played Harriet Winslow. She didn't 1795 01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:05,479 Speaker 2: go on to become you know, some super famous person. 1796 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,960 Speaker 2: She's she keep a job, but so did Jane and Hubert, 1797 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 2: you know, Marla gives from two to two seven. You know, 1798 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 2: she kind of becomes almost like a character actress and 1799 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,080 Speaker 2: other things. But like a lot of times, you become 1800 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 2: synonymous with that role. No one else even on the 1801 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,639 Speaker 2: on the show Fresh Friends, none of the other actors 1802 01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:32,240 Speaker 2: Karen Parsons did, like Major Pain and the Ladies Man Like, 1803 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,919 Speaker 2: no one from that show other than Will Smith became 1804 01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:37,679 Speaker 2: such an uber talent. 1805 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,760 Speaker 1: Even on Fonzo Vieria, I think that's his name. 1806 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,760 Speaker 2: He ends up doing like uh State Farm commercials. 1807 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,840 Speaker 1: And America Homes video. 1808 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:53,240 Speaker 2: So what happens here is and this is why I say, 1809 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,839 Speaker 2: you know, the grudge is so powerful you can fixate 1810 01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,640 Speaker 2: on the grudge, and now he becomes the thing that 1811 01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:04,080 Speaker 2: kept me from being a star, like I would have 1812 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,640 Speaker 2: been an Oscar winning star. And I think some of 1813 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,040 Speaker 2: that speaks to her ego and also her confidence in herself. 1814 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 2: Is not all ego is bad, but some of that 1815 01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:14,919 Speaker 2: speaks to your own experience. 1816 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 3: I was gonna be this at twenty one. 1817 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 2: Will Smith didn't even know he was gonna be Will Smith. 1818 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,599 Speaker 2: He didn't think he was going to be He thought 1819 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 2: this was a thing to do to get out of 1820 01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,360 Speaker 2: debt because rat was drying up, he lost out, spend 1821 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:28,640 Speaker 2: all his money, he was in debt. This is not 1822 01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:33,520 Speaker 2: this Like what happens is we let hindsight become the storyteller. 1823 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,280 Speaker 2: We're like, oh, he knew he would be a fucking 1824 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 2: multi movie star and he said, fuck this woman, she's 1825 01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 2: in my way, and that's how and he sinisterly connived 1826 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,840 Speaker 2: his way with a conspiracy to get to the top. 1827 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,599 Speaker 2: It's like, no, Ma, he did the same thing most 1828 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 2: of us do at that age, when somebody at work 1829 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:50,960 Speaker 2: getting on your motherfucking nerves. 1830 01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:51,600 Speaker 3: That's it. 1831 01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:54,360 Speaker 2: We do not think deeper than that. And you find 1832 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,040 Speaker 2: out later maybe you should think deeper than that. Maybe 1833 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:00,479 Speaker 2: what you did hurt somebody. And so I think that's 1834 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 2: a big part of it. As far as restoration and restitution, 1835 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:08,160 Speaker 2: I think that's up to Janey Hubert to say yes, like, 1836 01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 2: this is why I talk about this fucking grievance worship 1837 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,040 Speaker 2: and grievance. 1838 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 1: Porn, like because it comes about you. 1839 01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 2: We insert ourselves into these people's stories and be like, 1840 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:19,519 Speaker 2: you can't let this go until you get blank. 1841 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 3: What would make it right? 1842 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:22,080 Speaker 5: Nothing? 1843 01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,800 Speaker 3: You know, cause if you because it's still twenty. 1844 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 1: Seven years she spent on this grudge. 1845 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,040 Speaker 2: So if he could, he could give her a job 1846 01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,280 Speaker 2: tomorrow and there's still gonna be people being like not enough. 1847 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,600 Speaker 1: He could give her a million dollars, she would have 1848 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:34,440 Speaker 1: been a billionaire. 1849 01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:37,040 Speaker 2: She would have never gotten you don't know, you know, 1850 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 2: to me, it's almost like that I knew a kid 1851 01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,320 Speaker 2: when I was in high school and he had a 1852 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,920 Speaker 2: he had some issues, mental health issues, and he drank 1853 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,360 Speaker 2: to kind of subside that stuff, like, you know, he 1854 01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,559 Speaker 2: would talk to himself and stuff like we knew something 1855 01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:00,400 Speaker 2: more serious was at play, but this is nineteen nineties 1856 01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 2: something like, it's early nineties. All the shit we know 1857 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 2: now that so some oh therapy, mental health and you know, 1858 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,000 Speaker 2: get a diagnosis. We didn't have all that, you know 1859 01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 2: at the time, or at least that's it wasn't common thing, 1860 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:16,880 Speaker 2: And so he just became the dude to talk to 1861 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:19,280 Speaker 2: himself at the basketball court. That kind of kind of wild. 1862 01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,960 Speaker 2: But he was good at basketball, and he made the 1863 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 2: basketball team because he was tall and athletic. But his 1864 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:33,960 Speaker 2: once again, like his drinking showing up late, he's emotional 1865 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:39,400 Speaker 2: outburst that he would have it basically got him off 1866 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,439 Speaker 2: of the team like that because the way the team works. 1867 01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:46,400 Speaker 2: Is if you're the one sticking out, they don't say 1868 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:47,960 Speaker 2: you have mental health issues. 1869 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,040 Speaker 3: They don't say. 1870 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 2: Why are you drinking? Why were you late to practice? 1871 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 2: It's something going on with your home life, you know. 1872 01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 2: You know, at one point, I remember meeting his brother 1873 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,479 Speaker 2: and I thought his brother was kind of abusive towards him, 1874 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, And none of that shit mattered to the 1875 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,879 Speaker 2: people on the basketball team because the basketball team's job. 1876 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 1: Is to play basketball, and so is it right? Nah? 1877 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,680 Speaker 2: And maybe that coach looks back thirty years from then and. 1878 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,559 Speaker 3: Goes, you know what, I was wrong. I you know, I. 1879 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 2: Didn't recognize that you had more going on, or I 1880 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,720 Speaker 2: thought it didn't matter, because the only thing that matter 1881 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 2: is playing basketball and winning basketball games. But now, as 1882 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 2: an older person that has a chance to look now, 1883 01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,160 Speaker 2: keep in mind, this is kind of a different scenario 1884 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,799 Speaker 2: because the coach is older than the players. In high school, 1885 01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 2: this would be like literally the youngest nigga on the 1886 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 2: team talking about I realized, now it's the start of 1887 01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 2: the team. 1888 01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 3: I should have you know. 1889 01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,040 Speaker 2: So it's like that's a little bit more unrealistic, But 1890 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 2: the point being, I can see how all that stuff 1891 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 2: happens at. 1892 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:50,800 Speaker 3: The same time. 1893 01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,360 Speaker 2: And I knew this kid, and he did blame that 1894 01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,960 Speaker 2: coach and blame that team. And I remember talking to 1895 01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 2: my brother about him being like, but wasn't he drunk 1896 01:27:58,560 --> 01:27:59,160 Speaker 2: and showing. 1897 01:27:59,000 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 3: Up late for the thing? 1898 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 2: Wasn't he getting an attitude with the coach and yelling 1899 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,760 Speaker 2: at him and shit? And he was like, yeah, but 1900 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,040 Speaker 2: far as he concerned, it's the coach fault. He would 1901 01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 2: have been Michael Jordan, but the coach got him off 1902 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,960 Speaker 2: the team. And every last person hear me tell that story. 1903 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,639 Speaker 2: Know somebody, I'm not saying they have mental health issues, 1904 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:18,280 Speaker 2: but you know somebody that says, I would have been 1905 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan if it wasn't for that coach. 1906 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,040 Speaker 3: Right, everybody knows that kid. We all grew up with 1907 01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 3: that kid. 1908 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,640 Speaker 2: And I feel like, in a way, that's kind of 1909 01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:33,680 Speaker 2: the Ganet hubor equation for people is she would have 1910 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 2: been insert biggest star in the world here, but if 1911 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:40,240 Speaker 2: it wasn't for that, And then you look at the 1912 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,600 Speaker 2: all the case studies of the likelihood of that, it's like, 1913 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,920 Speaker 2: maybe not, you know what I mean, And then maybe 1914 01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:49,920 Speaker 2: she doesn't get bigger than she is now, But you know, 1915 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,520 Speaker 2: she also would have been on that show for seven seasons, 1916 01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,480 Speaker 2: which is still a good check and a good opportunity 1917 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 2: and a household name. And you know, like I said, 1918 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 2: no one else on that sh show that was on 1919 01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,000 Speaker 2: her for seven seasons really made the lepe to mega 1920 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,360 Speaker 2: star except for Will Smith, you know. So you know, 1921 01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,160 Speaker 2: it's just hard for me to believe, I mean, family matters. 1922 01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 2: None of them, did it, Not Eddie Winslow, not not 1923 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 2: even Steve Rkle, JELLEL. White, like you know, and once 1924 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,200 Speaker 2: again the woman who play Harriet Winslow had a similar 1925 01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,760 Speaker 2: issue with Jaelle White on the set. Lord thought she 1926 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 2: was like this, why is everybody on this niggas dick? 1927 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,519 Speaker 2: Because the show is basically Steve Urkle. 1928 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 5: Show gets into Yet yeah, same. 1929 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:30,679 Speaker 3: Thing with Fresh Friends. 1930 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,320 Speaker 2: It's the friend it's just fucking Will Smith show. And 1931 01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 2: everybody that's not down with that gonna end up having 1932 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,320 Speaker 2: to go. So, you know, I just think it's easy 1933 01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,320 Speaker 2: to reform this stuff, but we live in this time 1934 01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 2: where like it's grievance porn and everyone's so woke now 1935 01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:48,880 Speaker 2: that we can't say obvious shit like okay, maybe she 1936 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,759 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been that. It doesn't make any it doesn't 1937 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:53,920 Speaker 2: make it right the way that shit happened on the set. 1938 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 2: It's like, no, in order to be right, we have 1939 01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,240 Speaker 2: to say she would have went on to be Viola 1940 01:29:58,320 --> 01:29:59,080 Speaker 2: Davis Valla. 1941 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,880 Speaker 1: Davis never did TV before she did. 1942 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 2: Broadway until she until she was ready to do movies. 1943 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:06,719 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1944 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: Like that stop gap matters on your career path is 1945 01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 1: while a lot. 1946 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:11,920 Speaker 3: Of people refuse to do it. You know, That's why 1947 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:12,519 Speaker 3: you say a lot. 1948 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 2: Of movie stars refuse to do TV, because then you're 1949 01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:16,760 Speaker 2: stuck on TV all the time. Like it's just a 1950 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 2: lot of moving parts here. I think what matters the 1951 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:23,120 Speaker 2: most is that she felt aggrieved and Will Smith validated 1952 01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:27,559 Speaker 2: admitted that and said my bad. And I think and 1953 01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,840 Speaker 2: they hugged it out at the end, and I'm able 1954 01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:34,120 Speaker 2: to leave it there, like yeah, that's on y'all. 1955 01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 4: And a lot of people can't. And at some period 1956 01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,400 Speaker 4: of time, it is not about them. It's about you 1957 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,519 Speaker 4: and what's going on in your personal life and how 1958 01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,040 Speaker 4: you feel about that nigger that did something you in 1959 01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,120 Speaker 4: your life, Like like it boils down, it's no longer 1960 01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,439 Speaker 4: about them and it becomes about you, and nobody wants 1961 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:50,160 Speaker 4: to admit that. 1962 01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,360 Speaker 3: At some period of time it is not about them. 1963 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's weird too because like they act like 1964 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,160 Speaker 2: if he hadn't done this, she wouldn't be a dark 1965 01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,240 Speaker 2: skinned black woman in Hollywood. She still would have to 1966 01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,000 Speaker 2: deal with all that shit, even with Will Smith never 1967 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 2: having being like, all right, then she can go. That 1968 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,680 Speaker 2: doesn't change, like, it doesn't change the monster that that 1969 01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:11,519 Speaker 2: field is. 1970 01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,479 Speaker 1: It's not a fair field in the first place. 1971 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 2: A woman like that does that talented when she was white, 1972 01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,240 Speaker 2: would probably already be started in some other shit, Like 1973 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:23,360 Speaker 2: she wouldn't even have to be the sitcomm on. It's like, no, 1974 01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:27,920 Speaker 2: this woman is thirty four, she's a fucking classically trained dancer, 1975 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,519 Speaker 2: she's a great actress, blah blah blah. But those same 1976 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:35,200 Speaker 2: things can destroy you in Hollywood because then it becomes well, 1977 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,639 Speaker 2: you're the thirty four year old, confident, dark skinned black 1978 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,719 Speaker 2: woman that says we should get paid what we're worth 1979 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,800 Speaker 2: and your ass gotta go. Ain't nobody supposed to believe 1980 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:43,760 Speaker 2: that looking like you? 1981 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:45,080 Speaker 3: What you think this is? 1982 01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:45,759 Speaker 2: Friends? 1983 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:46,439 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1984 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,760 Speaker 2: You know what's really fucked up? Because everyone looks at 1985 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 2: him eating a shit from Janet. I'm like Will ate 1986 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,639 Speaker 2: shit from the people who actually make decisions on that show, 1987 01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,360 Speaker 2: because ain't nobody. I ain't heard not one person bring 1988 01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:02,400 Speaker 2: up Quincy Jones. I ain't heard one person bring up 1989 01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,920 Speaker 2: a showrunner or nothing. Everyone keeps on Will Smith, Will Smith. 1990 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 2: And I'm like he did a lot of people a 1991 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,040 Speaker 2: favor because he could have just came on there and 1992 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,880 Speaker 2: been like, I don't make them decisions. You never told 1993 01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 2: me this shit, and I don't make those decisions. I 1994 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,720 Speaker 2: was twenty fucking one, you were thirty four. You were 1995 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:21,519 Speaker 2: acting kind of stink. People didn't know what was going on. 1996 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,880 Speaker 2: You just started acting stink on the set and people 1997 01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,519 Speaker 2: and it wasn't just me. Multiple people have was like, 1998 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,479 Speaker 2: you gotta get the fuck out of here. You had 1999 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,840 Speaker 2: every all these people that worked on that set. No 2000 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 2: one has ever come to her defense. It's been like, 2001 01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 2: you know what they did her dirty? You know what 2002 01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,280 Speaker 2: she she you know that was we love working with her. 2003 01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:41,000 Speaker 2: That's fucked up. 2004 01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 3: No everybody got the same. 2005 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,960 Speaker 1: So like, he ate that shit for everybody. 2006 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 2: A lot of people duck their heads on this one, 2007 01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,439 Speaker 2: and he like a man ate that shit and let 2008 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,479 Speaker 2: or like an adult ate that shit and let people's 2009 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 2: shit on him and all that. That's good, Dude, I 2010 01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:57,800 Speaker 2: don't think I got it in me. I would have 2011 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,240 Speaker 2: had to at least exclaim out side of the shit. Yeah. 2012 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:05,040 Speaker 4: And it's also one of the things to where for 2013 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,080 Speaker 4: a lot of people, they don't know what happened when 2014 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,639 Speaker 4: the camera's went rolling, they don't know the compass like, 2015 01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 4: like I said, this. 2016 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:13,440 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. 2017 01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people do know. That's what's fucked up. 2018 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,639 Speaker 2: A lot of people do know, but they're not gonna 2019 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:20,439 Speaker 2: say nothing because. 2020 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:22,520 Speaker 1: It's fucking it will fuck up the narrative. 2021 01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 2: Right, And I don't blame them, by the way, I 2022 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't say shit either because they made some level of 2023 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:31,320 Speaker 2: peace leave it alone. But this, like all that information 2024 01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,639 Speaker 2: about what happened on the set didn't come from Will Smith. 2025 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,320 Speaker 2: So it's just it's just crazy that, like like I said, 2026 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:39,920 Speaker 2: it's a beautiful piece of media, a lot of people 2027 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,840 Speaker 2: were able to like kind of skip over everything that 2028 01:33:43,880 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 2: we've learned in twenty seven years to be like, nope, 2029 01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,080 Speaker 2: it was just this man trying to destroy a black 2030 01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,160 Speaker 2: woman and finally she got some semblance of acknowledgment. 2031 01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:58,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, And and and for some people, uh, I understand 2032 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 4: their anger and them being upset. But sometimes people want 2033 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 4: to excuse everything she did and just put everything. 2034 01:34:08,080 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 5: Just like she. 2035 01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 4: They're doing exactly what she's doing every because she and 2036 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,679 Speaker 4: a lot I've seen this on the internet. Dark skinned 2037 01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,640 Speaker 4: black women can't do nothing wrong. She can act to 2038 01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,800 Speaker 4: ass she can act the food. She could be homophobic, 2039 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 4: she she could be transphobic. But because she is a 2040 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:27,920 Speaker 4: black person, a black woman, and because society is just wrong, 2041 01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 4: there's nothing that she can do that we're going to 2042 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:35,639 Speaker 4: hold her account before and I've seen this way too 2043 01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,160 Speaker 4: many times online. 2044 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:38,320 Speaker 5: Now that shit good on. 2045 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:39,280 Speaker 1: My she skipped. 2046 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing, because that's black women saw 2047 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:44,880 Speaker 2: often hit with the brunt of shit when they don't 2048 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,560 Speaker 2: deserve it. Agree, people feel like we gotta protect them, 2049 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,160 Speaker 2: but in some ways it can be almost patronizing. 2050 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,200 Speaker 1: And I'm just trying to stand in. 2051 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 2: The like at least what I see as the truth, 2052 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,200 Speaker 2: rather than to be like, I gotta play a team. 2053 01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,080 Speaker 2: You know, I don't like it's like, whenever I say 2054 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,160 Speaker 2: something about black men, it's not because I'm like, you 2055 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,120 Speaker 2: know what, black men have hurt me so bad, I'm 2056 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,240 Speaker 2: gonna say mean things about black men. It's like, no, 2057 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 2: that's how I see it, you know, And it doesn't 2058 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 2: erase privilege or any of that shit, But it's just 2059 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,360 Speaker 2: how I see it, you know, where it's like, yo, 2060 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,879 Speaker 2: black men a lot of times can be extremely arrogant 2061 01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:23,160 Speaker 2: and insensitive and da da da da, and we can 2062 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 2: be abusive to our own community and stuff. That's not 2063 01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 2: to score me points so high five because I'm teen 2064 01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,840 Speaker 2: black women or teen black men. I don't play those 2065 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,599 Speaker 2: I don't like playing those games. Just here's the situation. 2066 01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,680 Speaker 2: Here's how I see it, And at the end of 2067 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:40,040 Speaker 2: the day, it did my heart. It's good watching and 2068 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:41,960 Speaker 2: I know it sounds weird, but I mean it watching 2069 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 2: a black woman basically get to go up there and 2070 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:46,240 Speaker 2: people be like, it really don't matter what you did, right, 2071 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:48,519 Speaker 2: you know what, because at the end of the day, 2072 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 2: I take responsibility for my part in this and and shit, 2073 01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,280 Speaker 2: So no matter how bad it got, you know, I 2074 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,080 Speaker 2: didn't know nobody was gonna do something to your fucking family. 2075 01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,559 Speaker 2: You know, he knew, you know, he could not have 2076 01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:03,880 Speaker 2: possible fucking thought that, you know that, But you got people. 2077 01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,000 Speaker 3: Out there like he should have known. I'm like, nobody 2078 01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:06,400 Speaker 3: knows that. 2079 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,519 Speaker 2: But it's like if I don't like somebody, if someone 2080 01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,439 Speaker 2: said some wild shit to me on the podcast and 2081 01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,679 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, fuck them, and they're like, you know, 2082 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,799 Speaker 2: one of your people on Twitter said fuck me, I'm. 2083 01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:20,640 Speaker 3: Like, how the fuck I'm sunna know that? You know 2084 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 3: what I mean? 2085 01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,640 Speaker 2: Like, at some point you gotta look at me for 2086 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,280 Speaker 2: me and the rest of your life. For the rest 2087 01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,920 Speaker 2: of your life, you blame me for your fucking your 2088 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 2: child tried to commit suicide and your first thought was 2089 01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:35,639 Speaker 2: to go on Instagram and blame me a lot. That's 2090 01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:38,360 Speaker 2: enough for most people. All them people you're talking at 2091 01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:42,439 Speaker 2: Yin Yang, most of them would have been like fuck 2092 01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:44,920 Speaker 2: you for that period, no matter what I did to you, 2093 01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 2: cause you know that wasn't fair. Most of them couldn't 2094 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,719 Speaker 2: handle that bit. This nigga ate that shit for twenty 2095 01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,240 Speaker 2: something years. So, like, you know, I just thought that. 2096 01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:57,519 Speaker 2: I just thought people was being real, real weird about it. 2097 01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,960 Speaker 2: But like I said, we have to understand that vine. 2098 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,960 Speaker 2: We're coming from an environment where black women very rarely 2099 01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:10,280 Speaker 2: get heard, validated, scene forgiving, or acknowledged, and so for 2100 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,040 Speaker 2: him to even do that for a lot of people, No, 2101 01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 2: it's not enough because it's never enough. It's not enough 2102 01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,240 Speaker 2: until she's the billionaire or the millionaire or whatever Will Smith 2103 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,280 Speaker 2: is and he's the broke one. That's the only way 2104 01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:24,120 Speaker 2: it'll be enough for them. And the thing is they 2105 01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:26,080 Speaker 2: don't have to be enough of them. It was enough 2106 01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 2: for Janet Hubert and that's all that. 2107 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,040 Speaker 3: Matter, right, And that's the only person that matters. 2108 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,759 Speaker 4: And to go back on what I was saying before, 2109 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,160 Speaker 4: the thing is because I look for things in nu once. 2110 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,439 Speaker 4: So that's what I was saying about the dark skinned 2111 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,160 Speaker 4: black women and me being a dark skinned black woman myself. 2112 01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:41,840 Speaker 3: I realized that a lot of. 2113 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:46,000 Speaker 4: Black women, particularly online, they put a cloak over themselves 2114 01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,760 Speaker 4: to hide themselves against accountability. And so I think some 2115 01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,599 Speaker 4: people they don't want to be accountable, and so they 2116 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:55,799 Speaker 4: feel like she shouldn't be accountable for anything. 2117 01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,960 Speaker 1: And you know what, that's an online thing, correct. 2118 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,840 Speaker 2: But also you know why I recognize that and why 2119 01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,360 Speaker 2: I push back against that kind of shit because that's 2120 01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:09,720 Speaker 2: what black men do. My group, straight straight black men 2121 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,879 Speaker 2: are always going in these ways. I am a victim, 2122 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,920 Speaker 2: so in these other ways, you can't ever acknowledge the 2123 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,280 Speaker 2: shit I do, right, and until I've been made whole 2124 01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:22,640 Speaker 2: fuck everybody. I get to do whatever I want, you know, 2125 01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,439 Speaker 2: And that's the argument they always make. It's the same argument, 2126 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,920 Speaker 2: you know, and I think that shit is a very shallow, 2127 01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:34,719 Speaker 2: reductive argument. I think it's not smart. I saw someone 2128 01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:37,080 Speaker 2: on Twitter make a great point. 2129 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:38,839 Speaker 3: Fuck, I forget. 2130 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,800 Speaker 2: I'm only forgetting who tweeted this, but I'm not trying 2131 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:43,639 Speaker 2: to do it on purpose. But they said something like, 2132 01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 2: if you're in a room full of black women and 2133 01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 2: they disagree with you, then you know you're probably wrong black, 2134 01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 2: or you wrong or something. And they say that it's 2135 01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,160 Speaker 2: kind of like a joke. And this black woman responding 2136 01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,200 Speaker 2: was like, not necessarily depend on the topic. 2137 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:03,599 Speaker 3: And then he was like, you know, uh, I forget 2138 01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,439 Speaker 3: what he said back to her. It wasn't mean her. 2139 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,519 Speaker 2: It was a very nice conversation, but she was like 2140 01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:10,600 Speaker 2: people responded back to her and so like, bitch, you 2141 01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:12,600 Speaker 2: picked me da da da da. And she was like, 2142 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 2: see that even in your replies, that's the point when 2143 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,519 Speaker 2: we start and uh. And I think she was a 2144 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:21,040 Speaker 2: PhD person too, but she was and I believe this wholehearted. 2145 01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,040 Speaker 2: It took me a while to see this, but when 2146 01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:26,760 Speaker 2: we started treating a marginalized group as they can do 2147 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:27,400 Speaker 2: no wrong. 2148 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,599 Speaker 3: All we've really done is dehumanize them. 2149 01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,080 Speaker 2: We set them up for failure. I no longer see 2150 01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 2: you as human. I see you as a status symbol. 2151 01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:38,160 Speaker 2: So if I say, like it's impossible for a person 2152 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:39,200 Speaker 2: who was tranced to. 2153 01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,720 Speaker 3: Do something fucked up, then I haven't. Then I have. 2154 01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,800 Speaker 2: I have just as much dehumanized you as saying that 2155 01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,200 Speaker 2: it's impossible for you to do anything good, because that's 2156 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:49,880 Speaker 2: not how her humanity works. 2157 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:50,400 Speaker 4: Me. 2158 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:53,599 Speaker 2: Seeing you as equal and human means that when when 2159 01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 2: you do things one way or the other, I get 2160 01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 2: to look at it that way. 2161 01:39:58,360 --> 01:39:58,800 Speaker 3: I don't get. 2162 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,920 Speaker 2: I don't just excuse because because of that, And I 2163 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 2: don't want to play those. 2164 01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,479 Speaker 1: Type of group groups and games because we're grown. 2165 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:09,439 Speaker 2: So if if someone black comes to my house and 2166 01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 2: steals my TV, I don't go. If my TV's not 2167 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,160 Speaker 2: stolen because they were black, I'm like, that's fucked up. 2168 01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 2: You stole my TV and they go, but I'm black, 2169 01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,519 Speaker 2: I'm like, Nigga, that's still fucked up. 2170 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You like, you don't that, 2171 01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,840 Speaker 3: you don't get that that's not okay. 2172 01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,599 Speaker 4: And that's what you get into the nuance. Yeah, because 2173 01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,479 Speaker 4: social media functions black and white. That's how you get 2174 01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 4: a lot of these ridiculous arguments. 2175 01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it is what it is, man. 2176 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:34,680 Speaker 2: And like I said, I think the other part of 2177 01:40:34,680 --> 01:40:37,759 Speaker 2: this that people look at or didn't even want to peep, 2178 01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,559 Speaker 2: is that it was weighing on this nigga too. Yes, 2179 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:46,880 Speaker 2: it was obviously bothering him because he's been twenty seven years. 2180 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 1: He could have just as easily said. 2181 01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this reunion, or man, I 2182 01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,240 Speaker 2: ain't talking no fucking Janet Hubert, fuck y'all, Like he 2183 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,320 Speaker 2: could have just as easy said that, but there was 2184 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:58,400 Speaker 2: something inside of him that wanted that too, that absolution 2185 01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,439 Speaker 2: and to let her know she was heart and a. 2186 01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:02,679 Speaker 3: Lot of times that takes work. 2187 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,120 Speaker 2: It takes having to do therapy and have people tell 2188 01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,120 Speaker 2: you like, here's these other perspectives you're not considering. 2189 01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's one of those things where. 2190 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:15,040 Speaker 5: People want to be heard. 2191 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:18,120 Speaker 4: And you were saying, like everybody wants their story, you know, 2192 01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:21,439 Speaker 4: everybody has the version of their story. And so I 2193 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 4: think that those things matter to people. And her being 2194 01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,120 Speaker 4: her mattered to a lot of black women, her being hurt, 2195 01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,400 Speaker 4: her being just to let it out all the table 2196 01:41:34,960 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 4: and everybody going from here for we can move on. 2197 01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,719 Speaker 5: Because the thing is truth be told. 2198 01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:44,839 Speaker 4: The average person desires that type of grace and mercy. 2199 01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:49,160 Speaker 4: The average person wants that, but they know that for 2200 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:56,080 Speaker 4: whatever reasons, either they won't allow personally they can't forget themselves, 2201 01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,160 Speaker 4: or either they will never have that closure. 2202 01:41:58,479 --> 01:41:59,200 Speaker 3: So it's a wait. 2203 01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,640 Speaker 2: And also, she gave him grace and mercy. Correct, it 2204 01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 2: wasn't one sided. Like I said, it's beautiful to me 2205 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:11,240 Speaker 2: in a glass case in an isolated room. I thought 2206 01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,920 Speaker 2: what they did was beautiful. There's nothing like that on TV. 2207 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:16,479 Speaker 2: People don't even do that shit on their podcast. People 2208 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,599 Speaker 2: don't ever do that shit personally in their personal lives. 2209 01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:21,639 Speaker 2: Like when people do that stuff, they do it behind 2210 01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:23,800 Speaker 2: closed doors and they'll tell nobody right and you just 2211 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,080 Speaker 2: look up and go, damn, you're still with him after 2212 01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 2: all that shit. Nobody ever talks about that shit. But 2213 01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 2: you know what, it's a way of life. A lot 2214 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:33,800 Speaker 2: of us have had to go. A person made a 2215 01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 2: mistake and I forgave them, or vice versa. I made 2216 01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 2: a mistake and this person forgave me. And I think 2217 01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:43,680 Speaker 2: it's so whack that we rebel against us at this 2218 01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,880 Speaker 2: point because, like I said, dependingmum swung too far the 2219 01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:48,439 Speaker 2: other way. I hate to keep harping on this, so 2220 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,400 Speaker 2: I want to move on, but it's just too much. 2221 01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,599 Speaker 2: Brittany says Hi, y'all is Brittany from Fort Worth, Texas. 2222 01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,479 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if this email make it in for 2223 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,240 Speaker 2: feedback episode this week. I need, but I just wanted 2224 01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:00,320 Speaker 2: to let you know. You guys know that this has 2225 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,960 Speaker 2: been a wonderful TVGWT week. I enjoyed the guest and 2226 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,599 Speaker 2: tips giving was so fun. It made my day at 2227 01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:08,080 Speaker 2: work a lot more enjoyable. Karen and Ride, y'all been 2228 01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,839 Speaker 2: making it a lot easier to go through this pandemic. 2229 01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,200 Speaker 2: And even though my torture is time, working through my 2230 01:43:12,240 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 2: torture is time working at Amazon, y'all inspired me to 2231 01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,120 Speaker 2: lead that job and pursue something I actually wanted to do. 2232 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,439 Speaker 3: Okay, come on, we love to see it. 2233 01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,240 Speaker 2: We'd love to see it go and get you something 2234 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,920 Speaker 2: you want to do anyway, Love you, guys, Thank you 2235 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:28,160 Speaker 2: for all your last Thank you, thank you will, says 2236 01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,759 Speaker 2: the Dynamic duo. Hey, y'all, your tips given episode felt 2237 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:32,840 Speaker 2: like a family event. 2238 01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,080 Speaker 1: So glad I caught it live. 2239 01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,960 Speaker 2: The playlist was on point, and Karen straightening up those 2240 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:38,559 Speaker 2: imaginary kids was too good. 2241 01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:40,240 Speaker 5: I couldn't help himself. 2242 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:40,679 Speaker 3: Y'all. 2243 01:43:40,760 --> 01:43:42,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to commend you both on your interviews during 2244 01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,320 Speaker 2: guest episodes. You guys allow your guests the room to 2245 01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:46,919 Speaker 2: let us into their worlds of perspective. 2246 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 3: It's a beautiful thing, y'all. Be blessed. 2247 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,479 Speaker 5: Peace will thank you. 2248 01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:55,799 Speaker 2: And lastly, Mss Barnes says, hello riding Karen. I'm behind 2249 01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,680 Speaker 2: on a few things, so allow me to get caught up. One, 2250 01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:59,960 Speaker 2: congratulations on the Spotify deal. You and Karen so rich. 2251 01:44:00,160 --> 01:44:02,679 Speaker 2: Deserve everything good that comes your way, and I'm crying 2252 01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:03,479 Speaker 2: to it's joy for. 2253 01:44:03,439 --> 01:44:03,880 Speaker 3: Both of you. 2254 01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,120 Speaker 5: Thank you. 2255 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:05,920 Speaker 3: Two. 2256 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:07,920 Speaker 2: I am finally caught up on love Craft Country. And 2257 01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:09,720 Speaker 2: when I tell you that I needed to digest each 2258 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,280 Speaker 2: episode on his own versus trying to bench good Lord, 2259 01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,720 Speaker 2: your recaps are spot on. That will be the only 2260 01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 2: recaps I listened to as you expertly break down each 2261 01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:18,240 Speaker 2: episode as. 2262 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,040 Speaker 3: Richly as the show deserves. Three. 2263 01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:23,680 Speaker 1: Whoa, I was watched to the wine Gods on Thursday night. 2264 01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:24,599 Speaker 3: Lol. 2265 01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:26,920 Speaker 2: I started drinking at four pm when I had dinner 2266 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 2: and got rid of all to build more wine. 2267 01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:30,719 Speaker 3: I cannot thank. 2268 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:33,880 Speaker 1: You a care for hosting all of us on Thanksgiving. 2269 01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:36,479 Speaker 2: I got what, I got to see what the good 2270 01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,720 Speaker 2: folks looked like in the chat, got to laugh, won 2271 01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:43,160 Speaker 2: a free movie, and overall just had a damn ball. 2272 01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:44,559 Speaker 2: Thank you for putting up with. 2273 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,320 Speaker 3: My wine drunk ass girl. 2274 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't no problem. We wasn't sitting. 2275 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,559 Speaker 3: Around thinking you was oh my god, not mss bares. 2276 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,559 Speaker 3: We enjoyed it. I was drinking. 2277 01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:53,720 Speaker 5: I was drinking too. 2278 01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:55,240 Speaker 3: I had a ball, still drinking. 2279 01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:57,479 Speaker 5: Oh them little things. 2280 01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:58,960 Speaker 3: It's good, the buzz balls. 2281 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,960 Speaker 2: Or have you thought about putting together at dating app 2282 01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:08,639 Speaker 2: for a single? Tippers hat Jackie smiling? How many times 2283 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,599 Speaker 2: did I say how to him? The first is real? 2284 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:14,320 Speaker 2: Out here in these quarantine streets, I have not and 2285 01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,200 Speaker 2: definitely would not want to feel responsible. 2286 01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:17,320 Speaker 3: For any of that. 2287 01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 2: Okay, Like I mean, we have gotten people have gotten 2288 01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:25,080 Speaker 2: together from within the community of the blackout Tips to 2289 01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:26,360 Speaker 2: varying degrees. 2290 01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,400 Speaker 3: I know a couple that got married and stuff. Some 2291 01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,120 Speaker 3: that have like very seriously dated. 2292 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:34,519 Speaker 2: I know a couple that like, don't talk to each 2293 01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:36,160 Speaker 2: other on the streets no more so, you know, I 2294 01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:38,120 Speaker 2: just try to stay out of their business and keep 2295 01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,840 Speaker 2: them out of mind. And what I definitely don't want 2296 01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,920 Speaker 2: to be is Will Smith in thirty years apologizing because 2297 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,799 Speaker 2: somebody had a bad match on the on the site. 2298 01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm good, yeah, you know, on Tippers Meter, tip Tippers 2299 01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:52,400 Speaker 2: mingo some shit. 2300 01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,120 Speaker 1: Now and now my ass is out here getting sued. 2301 01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm good. Any who. 2302 01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:59,680 Speaker 2: God bless you, Roder Karen, and thank you again. And 2303 01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,360 Speaker 2: if you find it in your heart, please do it. 2304 01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:05,080 Speaker 2: Christmas special, go Arby's, Miss Barns Well go Arvy's is 2305 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,559 Speaker 2: definitely doing a lot to undo all that good will. 2306 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,800 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, we might have to do a 2307 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,200 Speaker 1: tip Miss. Hopefully we'll get some more movies to give away. 2308 01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:16,720 Speaker 3: Between now and Christmas. 2309 01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:20,240 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I mean, look, if we still locked down, 2310 01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:22,040 Speaker 2: which we probably will. 2311 01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:25,080 Speaker 5: Be maybe twenty two, we'll be here for it. 2312 01:46:25,080 --> 01:46:28,360 Speaker 2: And people are still doing socially distant holidays, maybe we'll 2313 01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:31,760 Speaker 2: do it a Christmas special and play some more games. 2314 01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:32,799 Speaker 2: I know I had a good. 2315 01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,759 Speaker 5: Time, you know, Oh, it was so much fun. 2316 01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:35,040 Speaker 3: You know. 2317 01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:38,040 Speaker 2: Normally I would be talking sports and politics and stuff 2318 01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:41,799 Speaker 2: with my parents and watching people play spades and watching 2319 01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,080 Speaker 2: the football game in the other. 2320 01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:45,000 Speaker 3: Room, and like the chat room had a good time. 2321 01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:47,160 Speaker 5: If y'all show back up, we'll show back up. 2322 01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, hopefully if everybody's healthy and okay, we'll be 2323 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,120 Speaker 2: doing we can do something for Christmas because like I said, man, 2324 01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:56,600 Speaker 2: I enjoyed myself a lot. If you didn't get to 2325 01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,519 Speaker 2: watch it live, go back and check out the tips miss, I. 2326 01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,360 Speaker 1: Mean the tip giving special. 2327 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,920 Speaker 2: It's still on crowdcast and you can just go sit 2328 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,240 Speaker 2: down and watch it and watch us play games and 2329 01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,600 Speaker 2: get to know some of the people and faces in 2330 01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:14,000 Speaker 2: the chat and hopefully you know, follow us and become 2331 01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:18,120 Speaker 2: part of the community. So all right, we are taking 2332 01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:22,040 Speaker 2: a week off, okay for premium people. I probably we 2333 01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,200 Speaker 2: probably still will figure out a way to do a 2334 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,719 Speaker 2: pregame and Boss Deep because we skipped it this week. Yes, 2335 01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,080 Speaker 2: so we'll probably get that in at least one time 2336 01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:34,920 Speaker 2: on the vacation quote unquote, and we may do a 2337 01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:39,800 Speaker 2: look smack and good and that's about it. So all right, 2338 01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:45,280 Speaker 2: y'all check us out, follow us on Spotify. We appreciate y'all, 2339 01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:49,160 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, if you have questions on your sign 2340 01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,879 Speaker 2: up for the the. 2341 01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:55,200 Speaker 1: Black Friday deal and stuff, just hit us. 2342 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,200 Speaker 3: Up at gmail. The Blackout Tips at gmail dot com. 2343 01:47:58,240 --> 01:47:59,439 Speaker 3: I'll try to walk you through it. 2344 01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:03,040 Speaker 2: If you have any issues with the site fucking up 2345 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:06,080 Speaker 2: or something like that, let me know. I got y'all, 2346 01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:10,679 Speaker 2: and we'll figure it out. Okay, all right, y'all, Until 2347 01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:11,280 Speaker 2: next week. 2348 01:48:11,720 --> 01:48:12,960 Speaker 5: I love you,