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Speaker 3: How are we everybody?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: Bad news beardness travels. It travels from Tom apparently, so apparently,
Speaker 5: you know bad news bears had knows no limits or
Speaker 5: no boundaries. You know, it just shows up where it
Speaker 5: shows up.
Speaker 6: It was Lee's birthday a couple of days ago, and
Speaker 6: I think that extended into the next stuff forty eight hours.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just interesting that it's always the usual,
Speaker 5: like our voices are connected to it, our back end
Speaker 5: is connected, like where.
Speaker 3: The bad News? But what are you getting at?
Speaker 5: I mean, I just told you and you gotta you can't.
Speaker 5: It can't be anything other than what you are.
Speaker 3: Are you saying? We are the playing games Fox Sports?
Speaker 5: In my mind, I was sitting there like it's a
Speaker 5: great segue into playing games.
Speaker 3: I mean, but you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: In the end, the Bad News Beers did end up winning,
Speaker 5: so there's that, you know, But god, dang, they was
Speaker 5: the Bad News Beers all the way up to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, a lot of whiffs before then, a lot
Speaker 3: of strikeout.
Speaker 5: Shouts out the Dallas they won something. Huh, they did
Speaker 5: some thing.
Speaker 6: Hey, they look good, man, I mean, I know people
Speaker 6: are maybe sleeping on them, but they look good. I
Speaker 6: could see them being sneakly kind of going on a
Speaker 6: little bit of a run.
Speaker 3: You think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the West, Yeah, yeah, Anthony Davis can play. The
Speaker 2: problem is how for how long?
Speaker 6: Yeah? It's just look, That's what I'm saying. If he's
Speaker 6: healthy and Clay some of the other pieces they have.
Speaker 7: On that team, man, legs.
Speaker 6: They've got some guys who've been able to navigate through
Speaker 6: the playoffs and have won championships before. Man, I'm telling
Speaker 6: you that could be a dangerous combination.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I doubt it that one. Ain't going that that's
Speaker 5: going to be a short lived you know. It's because
Speaker 5: it's short lived. Story is because it's Dallas. No, it's
Speaker 5: because the West is pretty loaded, man, and they're just
Speaker 5: not going to be able to run that one. I
Speaker 5: don't see it. I mean it's possible, clearly, I'm not
Speaker 5: I'm not. I'm not an expert. So Q could come
Speaker 5: out being you know, correct on it. But I don't
Speaker 5: see it though. I just think that if you're going
Speaker 5: to look at one of the playing teams out of
Speaker 5: the West again, I'm I'm mistaking my I'm putting my
Speaker 5: ten toes down on the mountain, on the hill of
Speaker 5: the Golden State Warriors. That's That's what I'm gonna do
Speaker 5: out of the play in teams.
Speaker 7: But they would have to play each other for a while.
Speaker 5: So yeah, well, I don't see that being a hit
Speaker 5: to hit. I'm not saying that way. I'm just saying
Speaker 5: the team that I could see making a run out
Speaker 5: of the playing games would be Golden State.
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to get excited about playing playing
Speaker 2: tournaments and it just look to me the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 2: For the most part, we've had a couple of you know,
Speaker 2: lower seeded eight and seven teams that have that have
Speaker 2: beaten a one or a two seed a few times
Speaker 2: in the history of the postseason. It feels like the playoffs,
Speaker 2: outside of a four or five matchup and occasional six',
Speaker 2: three doesn't start until the second.
Speaker 3: ROUND i, mean these seven.
Speaker 2: Game series with your one eights and your two, Sevens it's, like,
Speaker 2: dude can we speed this up or at least make
Speaker 2: it more, intriguing make them a three game, series so
Speaker 2: at least if the lower seed gets, one you put
Speaker 2: everybody else on high alart that there could be an,
Speaker 2: Upset BUT i just. CAN'T i can't get excited about
Speaker 2: it until the second. Round for the most, part is
Speaker 2: what it. Is that's the way it.
Speaker 3: Goes so.
Speaker 2: Congratulations we'll find out what the final matchups are going
Speaker 2: to be after these next couple of games get, going
Speaker 2: and then we can all look forward, to you, know
Speaker 2: hopefully getting past this first round quick get to the second,
Speaker 2: round and then we can get to the teams that
Speaker 2: are actual title contenders as opposed to some of these playing.
Speaker 3: Teams but.
Speaker 2: There is the discussion that is still going, on but
Speaker 2: apparently it's coming to an. End in the world of.
Speaker 2: Sports nico has made a. Decision Not Nico, harrison all,
Speaker 2: right not. Him every Time i'm going to try this out, Again,
Speaker 2: NIKO i stop saying. It avaam has apparently according to rename,
Speaker 2: Him i'm leaving. You and for some strange, REASON i
Speaker 2: could say that way easier than what the real way of.
Speaker 3: Saying he is reportedly is going to be A Ucla.
Speaker 2: Bruin and apparently this according To Colin, cowherd who sent
Speaker 2: this tweet out, yesterday that the family is still saying
Speaker 2: this is not about. Money it had nothing to do with.
Speaker 2: Money it was all about The Tennessee volunteers. Offense and
Speaker 2: so he finds himself reportedly In. Westwood he will be
Speaker 2: A Ucla. Bruin but again it's got nothing to do
Speaker 2: with money at all, whatsoever and definitely not the four
Speaker 2: million dollars that was reported they were asking for when
Speaker 2: he was making two million a change already With tennessee
Speaker 2: set for this upcoming, Year so he's.
Speaker 7: Going to play for? Free is that what you're? Saying
Speaker 7: it's going to go there and be closer to home
Speaker 7: and all.
Speaker 3: That that's not.
Speaker 5: Money just so everybody, knows ye playing for, free but
Speaker 5: he is playing for less money and the taxes are.
Speaker 3: Higher here's. That, yeah it.
Speaker 6: Was it was a losing proposition all the way. Around
Speaker 6: not only would he made more money to your point
Speaker 6: too at the, taxes but now he's in a different,
Speaker 6: system not on a team that's as. TALENTED i, mean
Speaker 6: if you look At tennessee last, year which qualified for
Speaker 6: the college Football, playoff and by the, way mind, you
Speaker 6: and then this is not to be a slight On Niko,
Speaker 6: iamaliava but there's been a string of quarterbacks who have got,
Speaker 6: drafted who've been put up big numbers.
Speaker 7: There he did not play that.
Speaker 6: Well that was a defensive led, team that was a
Speaker 6: team that could tote the rock. TOO i would, say
Speaker 6: if you're looking at one of the weaker parts of their,
Speaker 6: team it was the inconsistency in the passing. Game so
Speaker 6: not only are there those kind of struggles from, that
Speaker 6: but now he goes to a lesser, Team he's not
Speaker 6: getting paid as, much and he's gonna be playing having
Speaker 6: an uphill, battle playing in a conference where you, know
Speaker 6: at least they were one of the top teams in THE.
Speaker 6: Sec that's not the case FOR. Ucla you, know they
Speaker 6: kind of feel at times.
Speaker 7: Like they're a bit of a.
Speaker 6: Doormat now they turn things around second half of last,
Speaker 6: season but it's going to be an uphill battle in
Speaker 6: so many different ways for, him and it's. Unfortunate and
Speaker 6: whether or not his his, team whether it's his, family
Speaker 6: whether it's his, agent wants to admit. It this was
Speaker 6: an absolute disaster and it's probably a good thing for
Speaker 6: a lot of other players out there in college football
Speaker 6: that can hopefully appreciate the opportunities they've, gotten understand that
Speaker 6: the grass is not always, greener and try to you,
Speaker 6: know what's the saying that, levars you, know be where
Speaker 6: your feet are or stand where your fet a or.
Speaker 5: Whatever something to that. Effect, yeah be. Present being present
Speaker 5: is being where your feet. Are, yeah that's. YEAH i,
Speaker 5: mean why try to be somewhere where you're not.
Speaker 3: Be at where your feet. At be at where your feet.
Speaker 5: At, see that's what happens when you take time, off
Speaker 5: you know WHAT i, mean you get rusty with your.
Speaker 5: Delivery talking about how is? Smooth then they sound a
Speaker 5: little bit. Capta that's not a real.
Speaker 3: Thing all.
Speaker 5: Right, no All i'm gonna say Is i'm happy for
Speaker 5: Coach foster because while people may rain down on The
Speaker 5: Nico i'm leaving you, parade you, know on his, camp
Speaker 5: the kid can play, ball and people can have their
Speaker 5: opinions about him and how good and how well he
Speaker 5: can play, Ball but the guy can play Some he
Speaker 5: can play, football and he was dealing at times last
Speaker 5: year For tennessee and probably would have had another good,
Speaker 5: year good season under them this season if he were
Speaker 5: still to be. There, now you go into a program
Speaker 5: where they they have needed to be able to get
Speaker 5: a break in order to have the opportunity to get
Speaker 5: a player of his, caliber you, know wanting to come
Speaker 5: there and play a position of such the magnitude of
Speaker 5: what the quarterback's position.
Speaker 3: Is, so you, know.
Speaker 5: Opportunity created or circumstance that's created an opportunity for u
Speaker 5: c L. A u C L a is not a
Speaker 5: major player in the NI l. Space you're not going
Speaker 5: to get u c L a for academic, purposes just
Speaker 5: as well as just available funding for NI l for.
Speaker 5: Football you're just not going to get elite level, offers
Speaker 5: elite level. Money in, fact even prior to, Nil you're
Speaker 5: not going to get A you're you're only going to
Speaker 5: get a certain level of player because of the academic
Speaker 5: requirements that they place on the guys that they bring in.
Speaker 5: There so it's like kind of like guys go TO
Speaker 5: usc that don't go to u c L. A and
Speaker 5: if you understand like the politics of what goes on
Speaker 5: at u c L, a you'd understand like it's kind
Speaker 5: of like they run things almost like A Ivy league
Speaker 5: type level school. Academically SO i think it's a great
Speaker 5: gift For Deshaun. WATSON i don't Know, foster excuse, me
Speaker 5: this Is Deshaun, geez he's where AM i right?
Speaker 3: Now thank you for that save q.
Speaker 5: UH i think it's a great gift for Coach foster and.
Speaker 3: Damn keep him away from the TOWNS i think.
Speaker 7: To worry.
Speaker 3: About, yeah, yeah it does H BUT i think this
Speaker 3: is a great gift FOR u c L.
Speaker 5: A and if they were going to be a pretty
Speaker 5: good team going into this, SEASON i think you can actually,
Speaker 5: say based upon the circumstances that That Nico i'm leaving
Speaker 5: you is is living under. NOW i think they're gonna
Speaker 5: get his best version because he's going to be on you,
Speaker 5: know he's going to be on guard to everything that's taking.
Speaker 5: Place there's gonna be a lot of, criticism a lot of,
Speaker 5: scrutiny a lot of coverage that comes his way because
Speaker 5: what he did kind of transcends just playing the. Game
Speaker 5: it has open in the conversation two larger pieces of
Speaker 5: what's going on in college football and sports all. Together
Speaker 5: SO i think that it's a it's an advantageous opportunity
Speaker 5: For nico to try to redeem himself and maybe repair
Speaker 5: his image with what's taking place as of. Late and
Speaker 5: it's a great opportunity FOR ucla to be a better
Speaker 5: program with what would be considered to be a top
Speaker 5: elite type of quarterback on their on their. Roster and
Speaker 5: it's not going to cost him a whole. Lot, apparently,
Speaker 5: well they got. It they got him on the. Cheap
Speaker 5: they got it was like two hundred and fifty less
Speaker 5: or something like.
Speaker 3: That they got him on a discount. Level what was
Speaker 3: it like.
Speaker 6: Almost, well the number of the FIGURE i saw was
Speaker 6: one point seventy five and he was scheduled to make
Speaker 6: two point, Six so he's almost a million sure of
Speaker 6: what he would have. Made and that's not including to
Speaker 6: your earlier point. Taxes by the, Way nico was like
Speaker 6: maybe top ten in THE sec last, year like as
Speaker 6: far as yards and all. That again going back to the,
Speaker 6: point you really didn't play. Overly, well now he's joining
Speaker 6: in an offense IN ucla that was one hundred and
Speaker 6: twenty sixth in scoring last.
Speaker 7: Year there are one hundred.
Speaker 6: And seventh in the country in sacks. Allowed so the
Speaker 6: protection AND i know that was like an. ISSUE i
Speaker 6: think that came up in some of these reports, too is, that,
Speaker 6: hey it's not AN nfl, Systems, like, well you knew
Speaker 6: that on your way. In Joe milton got, Drafted Hendon
Speaker 6: hooker got. Drafted there's been other quarterbacks who've gone To
Speaker 6: tennessee and gotten. Drafted so it's not like that's held
Speaker 6: against those. Quarterbacks if that was your concern or that's
Speaker 6: part of the rationale for why you, Left you've gotten
Speaker 6: guys to THE nfl level and they've put up good.
Speaker 6: Stats and mind, you there's plenty of other quarterbacks that
Speaker 6: have played in systems that AREN'T nfl systems and have
Speaker 6: also gotten. Drafted so if that was part of the,
Speaker 6: rationale it doesn't make any. Sense and, again going back
Speaker 6: to the initial, point he hasn't even performed to a
Speaker 6: point where you felt confident about him to be able
Speaker 6: to go somewhere, else learn a new, system learn new,
Speaker 6: chemistry develop all those, things and now he's doing it
Speaker 6: with lesser pieces around him in a league that arguably
Speaker 6: you'd say they're at at the bottom of the, league
Speaker 6: or one of the teams at the. Bottom SO i
Speaker 6: just FEEL i feel bad for the young man because
Speaker 6: at some point you've got to make your own decisions in,
Speaker 6: life and this is one WHERE i don't know who
Speaker 6: was in his, ear AND i know that someone made
Speaker 6: some anonymous report or someone close to the family WHATEVER
Speaker 6: i believe On Front Office, sports which if that's even,
Speaker 6: Credible but the truth of the matter is he should
Speaker 6: have stood up and Said i'm, good like my payday
Speaker 6: is coming after this year WHEN i go to THE.
Speaker 6: Nfl and unfortunately now it's, like we'll see how this year.
Speaker 6: Goes but maybe he's a couple of years now from
Speaker 6: leaving and be able to go to get draft in THE.
Speaker 6: Nfl who knows how this whole thing's gonna.
Speaker 2: Shakeout so he's in a worse, situation and he took
Speaker 2: what like a seven hundred thousand dollars pay cut in
Speaker 2: less than a, week and now he's, yeah now he's
Speaker 2: just got to kind of it feels like with anything,
Speaker 2: new there's got to be something that's the example of
Speaker 2: what not to, do and he's the example of what
Speaker 2: not to.
Speaker 3: Do like he's the one that all right, now everybody
Speaker 3: kind of has an.
Speaker 2: Understanding AND i do wonder if there's probably coaches and
Speaker 2: programs that are that are pointing to, this going, hey,
Speaker 2: guys just so you, know like this is how things
Speaker 2: could turn really badly for. You you could go from
Speaker 2: AN sec quarterback and at a great program who was
Speaker 2: a playoff team a year ago.
Speaker 3: TO ucla like.
Speaker 5: That this is limited to such a small minute number
Speaker 5: of players for this to even apply. To this is
Speaker 5: not going to apply to anyone else but qbs at
Speaker 5: major major universities and. Receivers that's about. It that's about.
Speaker 5: It that's who this is limited. To you're not going
Speaker 5: to see it take place with anybody. Else you could
Speaker 5: be as gifted a football player on the defensive side
Speaker 5: of the, ball not going to. Happen you could be
Speaker 5: as gifted as you'd like to be on the offensive.
Speaker 5: Line it's not going to happen running. Back same, thing tight,
Speaker 5: end forget about. It if you're a quarterback at AN sec,
Speaker 5: school A big ten, school maybe in some instances AN acc,
Speaker 5: school you have the ability to possibly push the envelope
Speaker 5: on these types of. Conversations not saying that negotiations don't
Speaker 5: exist for the other.
Speaker 3: Positions it's just not the.
Speaker 5: Same AND i think one thing that we got to
Speaker 5: make sure we're clear on in this, scenario AND i
Speaker 5: was listening To kurt Herb street and what he had
Speaker 5: to say ABOUT nil With pat, McAfee AND i thought
Speaker 5: it was very very well put in thought, out is
Speaker 5: that this is turning into negotiations against schools and. Players
Speaker 5: in this, instance you're looking At nico getting into a
Speaker 5: a negotiation Between tennessee and himself when in, REALITY nil
Speaker 5: is in place for you to benefit with your, name your,
Speaker 5: image and your. Likeness that's that's getting money through your.
Speaker 5: Collective that's that's doing, appearances that's that's MAKING i, Mean
Speaker 5: i'm just saying that's that's what it.
Speaker 6: Was, well this is WHY i wouldn't include the collectives
Speaker 6: is part of. IT i think the collectives are part
Speaker 6: of the issue because the, collectives by and large how
Speaker 6: they've operated are groups of boosters who are essentially taking
Speaker 6: private money and being able, to you, know help compensate
Speaker 6: and create opportunities for players and that in that, fashion
Speaker 6: and they're doing it for the university because there wasn't
Speaker 6: pay for plash sure or pay to, play which the
Speaker 6: truth is is, like that's what it's always been since
Speaker 6: it's been, enacted and even before, that when teams and
Speaker 6: boosters are paying kids under the, table it's all aways
Speaker 6: been paid to. Play, like if we want to take
Speaker 6: anil step, further what's always bothered me about it is
Speaker 6: if you're not, playing you're not getting. Paid so even
Speaker 6: if you want to try to, say, well, oh it's
Speaker 6: really about marketing, dollars, Right it's really about those opportunities
Speaker 6: to promote brands or do, commercials or do social media
Speaker 6: postings and do appearances and all. That does anyone care
Speaker 6: about you if you're not, playing if you're not out there,
Speaker 6: performing if you're not one of the best. Players, No,
Speaker 6: so in, essence it's always really been about getting paid
Speaker 6: because you. Play but we we created this world in
Speaker 6: which we had to create loopholes and other ways in
Speaker 6: which we could find ways of you, know getting players
Speaker 6: money that was within the rules of you know what
Speaker 6: was passed by The Supreme.
Speaker 7: Court i've said this and will always say, THIS nil
Speaker 7: has never been.
Speaker 6: Sustainable the way it was created and the way it's
Speaker 6: been implemented wasn't the initial. Purpose but the problem with
Speaker 6: the initial purposes you're kind of putting the cart before the.
Speaker 6: Horse it always should have been a rev. Share it
Speaker 6: always should have been THE tv money that these conferences
Speaker 6: and schools were getting were shared with those student athletes
Speaker 6: who are the ones actually earning. It and then you
Speaker 6: could have IMPLEMENTED nil and you could have said these
Speaker 6: marketing dollars from name your apparel, company under, Armor, nike
Speaker 6: whoever it's, created or name, whatever a sports, dring whatever
Speaker 6: else it, is then that comes as part of, it
Speaker 6: because that's the professional. Model look at THE, nfl look
Speaker 6: at THE, nba look at all these other professional. Leagues
Speaker 6: you are paid by your, organization and then you have
Speaker 6: all that as kind of your ancillary income that comes
Speaker 6: off of. That but don't get it. Twisted it is
Speaker 6: about your ability to. Play and that's one of the reasons,
Speaker 6: why like it's it's always been. Backwards it's never made,
Speaker 6: sense and it's why it's been a little bit of
Speaker 6: a chaotic mess. Too is the essence of why we're
Speaker 6: compensating student athletes in the first. Place it's all about their.
Speaker 6: Performance it's all about their. Play, well if that's the,
Speaker 6: case then make it a structure that actually makes sense
Speaker 6: and it's. Lasting and you have examples of that at
Speaker 6: every professional.
Speaker 5: LEVEL i just, THINK i, mean it's. Funny, coincidentally we
Speaker 5: were going over Man man's you know situation just.
Speaker 3: Yesterday What Man.
Speaker 5: Man it's like three, contracts bro three contracts that you
Speaker 5: got to go, through three separate entities of contracts that
Speaker 5: you have to go through as it applies to these
Speaker 5: nil well not even just an, il but just the
Speaker 5: way the kids are. Compensated there's like three different agreements
Speaker 5: and one is the, collective you, know another is this,
Speaker 5: entity another is the school. Entity and it's interesting to,
Speaker 5: me like looking at how all of it is. Structured
Speaker 5: are you really suppor to point and aim your frustration
Speaker 5: or YOUR i guess what your demands, are what your
Speaker 5: expectations are to be compensated at the team, itself at
Speaker 5: the head, coach at at you, know At tennessee or
Speaker 5: wherever it is that you're. At because to, me again
Speaker 5: it comes back down to with these blurred lines of
Speaker 5: what this is all representation of what does nil really?
Speaker 5: Represent because at the end of the, day if we're talking,
Speaker 5: apples if it's an apples the apples, conversation then you
Speaker 5: got to talk about compensating the. Player like you just,
Speaker 5: said you're paying based off of what you're generating at
Speaker 5: off of THE tv deals and stuff like. That there's
Speaker 5: no there's nothing that comes out that like in a
Speaker 5: pro contract that talks about, name image and. Likeness you
Speaker 5: do that with The Players. Association you sign a group
Speaker 5: license and agreement with The Players. Association that's how you
Speaker 5: leverage your, name image and. Likeness it's a different entity.
Speaker 5: Altogether so the blurred lines that have been created AND
Speaker 5: i think that are exposed here in this situation in,
Speaker 5: particular there's no reason for them for him to have
Speaker 5: taken a hard line stance Like i'm not, Practicing i'm
Speaker 5: not coming unless y'all pay me more. Money, sure the
Speaker 5: collectives are in contact with the, university and the universities
Speaker 5: are in contact with the, collectives and this is a
Speaker 5: way for them to be able to compensate the. Players but,
Speaker 5: ultimately if we're looking at it for the true essence
Speaker 5: of WHAT nil has created as it applies to today right,
Speaker 5: now you're you're monetizing your the value of your, name your,
Speaker 5: image and your. Likeness so even if it's coming from
Speaker 5: a collective in the sense of we're able to pay
Speaker 5: them to be a part of our, team but you're
Speaker 5: going to DO x amount of, Appearances you're going to do,
Speaker 5: signings you're going to do things that support what we're
Speaker 5: doing to build this. Program bottom line is is that
Speaker 5: there needs to be a separation and there needs to
Speaker 5: be an understanding of what the business of what you
Speaker 5: are as a player to the university and what you
Speaker 5: are as an entity and a. Brand all of it's
Speaker 5: all on its own as in a, name your, image
Speaker 5: and your. Likeness there needs to be a very clear
Speaker 5: understanding and determination of OR i guess not, determination but
Speaker 5: description of what each one of those. Represent BECAUSE i
Speaker 5: think this right, here this clearly shows that there is
Speaker 5: not a separation and and and there's how do you
Speaker 5: how do you read in between the lines of where
Speaker 5: the collectives and how you're getting compensated for your, name
Speaker 5: image and likeness runs and bleeds into who you are
Speaker 5: as an athlete and a student at the university that you're.
Speaker 6: At it's such the lion's, share by the, way will
Speaker 6: come from the revenue. Share that's where most of the
Speaker 6: kids will make the majority of the. Money, now if
Speaker 6: the collectives exist and they really feel like they want
Speaker 6: a high star kid or you, know a big performer
Speaker 6: that transfers or, something they might be able, to you,
Speaker 6: know come in there with some sort of whatever package
Speaker 6: and marketing or whatever else they want to. Do but
Speaker 6: the reality is it should be that they're getting compensated
Speaker 6: the most from their school based on the revenue. Share
Speaker 6: like that's the. Setup that's how this should work moving.
Speaker 6: Forward any other model is not really sustainable and it
Speaker 6: doesn't really make sense either when you're thinking about. It you,
Speaker 6: know is any other athlete getting paid more from their
Speaker 6: marketing deal as opposed to what they're making to actually
Speaker 6: play their?
Speaker 7: Sport?
Speaker 5: No Maybe Travis. Hunter Maybe Travis. Hunter, maybe well he,
Speaker 5: won't he won't once he's the number two. Overall pick, right, correct, right,
Speaker 5: right right. Correct, yeah it's it's, sad. MAN i think it's.
Speaker 5: Sad there's a, lot a lot of moving parts to.
Speaker 5: It but, hey he found a place to go play
Speaker 5: and he's still.
Speaker 3: Going to get some some cash out of the.
Speaker 5: SITUATION i don't you know, Which it's not about the,
Speaker 5: cash Right Enjoy Westwood.
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Speaker 2: Soon can't get here fast enough with all the make
Speaker 2: belief stories that are out. There one guy who, was,
Speaker 2: yeah just some of this stuff just sounds like. Garbage Joe, shane,
Speaker 2: though the general manager for The New York, giants who
Speaker 2: seems to be having a much better offseason this year
Speaker 2: as opposed to last year when it was played out
Speaker 2: on hard.
Speaker 3: Knocks But Joe.
Speaker 2: Shane spoke with the media yesterday and not only talked
Speaker 2: about the quarterback position as they sit at number, three
Speaker 2: but also apparently they're getting some interest from other teams
Speaker 2: as well too when it comes to their.
Speaker 9: Pick with the signing of those two, PLAYERS i think
Speaker 9: we put our position ourselves in a position where you,
Speaker 9: KNOW i don't think that's mandatory or something that we're
Speaker 9: in our feet of the we have to. Do you,
Speaker 9: KNOW i think the two guys we signed have played
Speaker 9: a lot of, Ball they've got a lot of skins
Speaker 9: on the, wall AND i do think we've upgraded that,
Speaker 9: room you, know compared to where it was a year.
Speaker 9: AGO i like the two guys that we, have and you,
Speaker 9: Know tommy's still in there and he's won games for us,
Speaker 9: too and we're happy with the makeup of the room right.
Speaker 7: Now we'll be open to all.
Speaker 9: OPTIONS i, mean those those strategy sessions have been ongoing
Speaker 9: and you, know talking through different. Scenarios so, yeah well
Speaker 9: we're always going to be open to you, know eat
Speaker 9: or those.
Speaker 3: SCENARIOS a lot of interests around teams looking to train.
Speaker 9: Up we we've received some.
Speaker 7: Calls, yeah we've received.
Speaker 3: Calls all.
Speaker 2: Right Abdull, carter we Call Abdull carter is a three
Speaker 2: to one favorite to be selected number three overall to The.
Speaker 6: Giants so, well that doesn't mean he'll be selected by The.
Speaker 6: Giants it just means he's going to go number three.
Speaker 5: Overall, YEAH i think what you said While jonas was
Speaker 5: off that he can't respond to because he wasn't here
Speaker 5: to hear what you, said.
Speaker 3: Certainly.
Speaker 5: Certainly is more relevant and in today's conversation than it was. Yesterday,
Speaker 5: boy professional co signing is always the, best especially.
Speaker 3: When you have, supporters you, know the. League then you
Speaker 3: GET q doing what he's doing with your.
Speaker 6: Laughing at it BECAUSE i didn't think he was gonna go.
Speaker 6: There and if we really want to be, honest get
Speaker 6: out of. There Central cubs really struggled only one of
Speaker 6: two versus the.
Speaker 3: Poject you know, what let.
Speaker 7: Me tell you.
Speaker 5: Something you worry, about staying out a way of those
Speaker 5: dolphin statues that you walk by that you.
Speaker 3: See all, right, Buddy i'm, Married thank you.
Speaker 5: Exactly, yeah, yeah avoid avoid them breathing, holes them blow.
Speaker 3: Holes.
Speaker 5: Anyway so the Point i'm making here you asked the
Speaker 5: question on the, SHOW. Q does this mean they're trying
Speaker 5: to drive up the value Of Shador sanders to entice
Speaker 5: a team to want won him at three where they
Speaker 5: can trade down because they could still possibly get the
Speaker 5: player that they will want without using that three.
Speaker 3: PICK i, think IF i.
Speaker 7: Sit it, CORRECT i actually don't THINK i said any Of.
Speaker 3: Okay, well trade back at least right trade.
Speaker 6: Now my thing was is there might be someone interested
Speaker 6: In Abdull carter because they don't have a need For Abdull.
Speaker 7: Carter they've Got Kevon, thibadeau they've Got Brian.
Speaker 3: Burrce so.
Speaker 7: We want to trade back because we feel.
Speaker 6: Like we could still get a quarterback or get someone
Speaker 6: else in an, exchange get more draft.
Speaker 5: Cap The, giants that being The giants in this, situation, Right,
Speaker 5: Okay SO i think that's more relevant now after hearing
Speaker 5: that explanation from THE gm than it ever has. Been,
Speaker 5: honestly If i'm If I'm i'm being, Realistic i'm Calling
Speaker 5: cap on some of this stuff that's Coming Shadoor sanders,
Speaker 5: Way i'm Calling cap on. THAT i think people know
Speaker 5: his talent. LEVEL i think they know what he brings
Speaker 5: to the. Table but in order to keep people off
Speaker 5: balance on what it is that you would really like to,
Speaker 5: DO i think things like this happen, sometimes and it
Speaker 5: just happens to be a little bit more coverage Towards
Speaker 5: Shador sanders than what it would be maybe possibly for
Speaker 5: other prospects in years. Past but as it applies to
Speaker 5: The New York giants looking at that number three, picky
Speaker 5: if they had no other, recourse nobody wants to offer
Speaker 5: them what they. Want they can't miss on this. Pick
Speaker 5: they really can't miss on this. Pick AND i think
Speaker 5: it's just based upon the conversation that we had With
Speaker 5: prisco is that they're facing losing their, jobs whether it's THE,
Speaker 5: gm whether it's the head, coach and whether they're able
Speaker 5: to save themselves or. Not it still seems to be
Speaker 5: a pick that may give them some type of ammunition
Speaker 5: to be able to make maybe a legitimate argument that
Speaker 5: they should be able to retain their jobs and continue
Speaker 5: to build this team. OUT i don't know how realistic that,
Speaker 5: is but in listening to, this it might be way
Speaker 5: better for The New York giants to trade out of
Speaker 5: that number three pick and hope that they can get
Speaker 5: more draft capital and still be able to get a
Speaker 5: player that they would really want with one of the
Speaker 5: high draft picks that they would swap out with with
Speaker 5: the team that would take that number three.
Speaker 2: Overall because if you got if we're looking at the
Speaker 2: top prospects and everyone, says well It's Travis hunter And
Speaker 2: Abdul carter and you can swap either one of, those
Speaker 2: there's going to be a team who's going to look
Speaker 2: at The. Giants If the point, is, listen they don't
Speaker 2: Need Abdul. Carter they've already got that position. Addressed that's
Speaker 2: going to be willing to give up a significant amount
Speaker 2: for one of the top overall prospects in the. Draft
Speaker 2: so if You're Joe, shane The giants, like why would you,
Speaker 2: like why would you take a? Quarterback why would you
Speaker 2: Go if it's too high to take An ashton gent
Speaker 2: maybe you could drop back.
Speaker 7: And and and but is?
Speaker 3: It is it too? HIGH i, mean didn't they Take
Speaker 3: saquan at number?
Speaker 5: Two?
Speaker 3: Yeah but it was it was a. Hit clearly they
Speaker 3: weren't fans of.
Speaker 5: His clearly they made a tremendous, mistake is what they
Speaker 5: did That the draft pick was, good.
Speaker 6: Different general, manager, right that Was David. Gettleman and then
Speaker 6: you Had Joe shader came in and you know he
Speaker 6: didn't prioritize paying that position.
Speaker 7: The same way The eagles.
Speaker 3: DID i, guess, well that didn't look. Good doesn't look.
Speaker 5: Good but it was a. Hit the pick was a.
Speaker 5: Hit SO i don't. THINK i don't Feel Ashton genty
Speaker 5: should be talked about. More i've said, IT i feel.
Speaker 5: It you, Know i've talked about. Him i've been talking
Speaker 5: About ashton for at least two or three years.
Speaker 3: Now you know WHAT i.
Speaker 5: Mean i've been really committed to talking about how really
Speaker 5: talented this dude. Is i've said to, people we haven't
Speaker 5: seen a back like this since you, Know Barry sanders
Speaker 5: And Eric dickerson and The Pony. Express and you know,
Speaker 5: what and now people want to get on the bandwagon
Speaker 5: With Ashton. Genty he's not being. Discussed you, know say
Speaker 5: it enough people will think it's. True, right, YEAH i
Speaker 5: mean that's what that's the. Point and now WHAT i
Speaker 5: said media is for you could shoot it out there
Speaker 5: like you really meant. It oh, Yeah i'm shooting this
Speaker 5: LIKE i really mean. IT i, MEAN i didn't hear
Speaker 5: this from One Braden. QUINN i JUST i just figured
Speaker 5: that this is people are starting to catch on To
Speaker 5: Ashton genty And i'm here to tell, you seriously, though
Speaker 5: that isn't. MINE i am a fan after seeing him,
Speaker 5: play AND i do think that it would be interesting
Speaker 5: to see him, go you, know in top five picks top, six.
Speaker 3: Which is very. REALISTIC i don't think he gets Past Las.
Speaker 3: VEGAS i.
Speaker 5: Don't now the question becomes who would want to make
Speaker 5: that trade With New. York who do we think are
Speaker 5: the teams that have shown interest that would possibly Want
Speaker 5: if It's Abdul carter or if It's Travis hunter that
Speaker 5: happened to fall to number, three who would Those do
Speaker 5: we have bet notts on who those teams would.
Speaker 3: Be, no But i've got you, Know i've got one
Speaker 3: that can make some. Sense oh he's got. One what
Speaker 3: do you got The? Bears oh, god it does make
Speaker 3: sense now because here's. Why is that because?
Speaker 6: Long is that because the new head coach, made you,
Speaker 6: know not Like DeAndre swift quite as? Much, WELL i
Speaker 6: MEAN i, think, yeah he doesn't appear to be a huge.
Speaker 6: Fan but if it's a deep running back draft class
Speaker 6: and you think you could get a running back that
Speaker 6: could be quality at the next level later, on maybe
Speaker 6: The bears called The. Giants i'm talking from the standpoint
Speaker 6: Of Abdul. Carter maybe they call up and, say you
Speaker 6: can take the tenth, pick and we've got the thirty
Speaker 6: ninth and the forty first pick as well. TOO i,
Speaker 6: mean those are three picks in the top forty. Plus
Speaker 6: why not if you're that interested or you believe that
Speaker 6: you need.
Speaker 2: Help from a pass rushing, standpoint they haven't gotten great
Speaker 2: production From Montes, sweat especially last, year and they gave
Speaker 2: them a whole bunch of. Money you, know maybe they
Speaker 2: could hit up the giants and be, like would you
Speaker 2: be willing to drop back to ten or is that
Speaker 2: too far to fall out to still get a quality?
Speaker 2: Player that's what is?
Speaker 5: It what does it look like if you're in the
Speaker 5: top ten to trade a, pick like, say for, instance
Speaker 5: the news surfacing on.
Speaker 3: Verybel WANTING.
Speaker 5: Tj watt In New, england that means you want to edge.
Speaker 5: Rusher and if you're trying to get A. Tj watt
Speaker 5: at the type of dollar that you were trying to
Speaker 5: you're going to have to pay to get.
Speaker 3: Them it makes sense to.
Speaker 5: Try to swap out with swap out With New york
Speaker 5: at that at that four pick and get somebody.
Speaker 3: Else that, way you'd only drop one pick back and
Speaker 3: and then you get you, know you get the.
Speaker 6: Differences the difference is about four hunderd, points which would
Speaker 6: essentially be a second round pick if you're looking at
Speaker 6: the traffic value. Chart so that's typically what you would
Speaker 6: look at and, say it's about fair compensation to be
Speaker 6: able to move up or move back one pick that's
Speaker 6: that's what you're looking.
Speaker 3: For so what that makes sense or not makes?
Speaker 5: Sense if you're if You're New, england does that make
Speaker 5: sense to ensure that, like, say for, instance there's another
Speaker 5: team that's like in IN i guess range that wants
Speaker 5: to try to slip into that third. Space if If
Speaker 5: Travis hunter or more specifically in this particular, moment based
Speaker 5: Upon New england showing interest IN Tj, watt would you
Speaker 5: try to get that number three pick so that somebody
Speaker 5: doesn't swipe it from you if if it were to
Speaker 5: fall through WITH Tj watt and trying to get this trade, done,
Speaker 5: POSSIBLY i, mean it just seems like it would make.
Speaker 5: Sense IF i want a defensive and the edge rusher
Speaker 5: of the caliber OR Tj, watt and there's somebody that
Speaker 5: could possibly trade up and Take Abdul carter before we get,
Speaker 5: them maybe it's, like, okay let's swap this pick so
Speaker 5: we can make sure we get Abdul carter at? Three
Speaker 5: does that make?
Speaker 3: Sense?
Speaker 5: Yes when was the last time you heard anything about?
Speaker 5: Vrabel AND i THINK i read that? Yesterday i'm If
Speaker 5: i'm not, mistaken?
Speaker 6: Dude is that fake? NEWS i BELIEVE i read that
Speaker 6: though that there was. INTEREST i remember seeing it a while.
Speaker 6: BACK i don't remember seeing it. RECENTLY i read it.
Speaker 5: Yesterday, actually that's that's WHY i even brought it up just,
Speaker 5: now BECAUSE i WAS i saw a headline where it
Speaker 5: was Like vrabel is interested The New England patriots are
Speaker 5: interested in possibly BECAUSE i guess it doesn't seem like
Speaker 5: the negotiations are going well and Pitts burg. DOESN'T i,
Speaker 5: mean from WHAT i, read it doesn't sound like it's
Speaker 5: maybe going to get. Done this draft really needs something to.
Speaker 7: Happen we need an.
Speaker 2: Event, well what does it? NEED i don't, LOOK i
Speaker 2: don't condone. This i've never personally done. It but if
Speaker 2: we could get, somebody like a top pick to smoke,
Speaker 2: weed to get out of a gas, MASK.
Speaker 3: I think it would help everybody in. There it make
Speaker 3: it that much more.
Speaker 2: Interesting there's not enough, trades there's not enough trade, scenarios
Speaker 2: there's not enough positive feedback on. Quarterbacks so and so
Speaker 2: is moving uh soaring up the draft. Charts everything's just
Speaker 2: negative doom and. Gloom if we could really put a
Speaker 2: smile on everybody's face and just get somebody, to you,
Speaker 2: know hit the hippie lettuce out of a gas mask on. Videoymore,
Speaker 2: okay that's. Fine, listen it worked out well for. Him
Speaker 2: he's made one hundred million dollars plus in his. CAREER
Speaker 2: i don't even think he has an, Agent Laromie. TONZEL
Speaker 2: i think he's represented himself.
Speaker 4: For what is.
Speaker 3: WORTH i, mean we went guy helping him.
Speaker 5: Out we had one of the most, sadly insanely bad
Speaker 5: happenings take place based upon the draft this. YEAR i mean,
Speaker 5: bad super. BAD i, mean that's, polarizing sad as hell
Speaker 5: that it. Happened BUT i mean we did have something
Speaker 5: crazy that that is being talked.
Speaker 3: About, yeah, NO i.
Speaker 5: WAS i was kind of hoping we, could, uh you,
Speaker 5: know not as deep as, that because that's super deep,
Speaker 5: real that's like all the way. Submerged, yeah, Okay i'm just,
Speaker 5: saying don't don't you know you're gonna pick and choose
Speaker 5: where we're supposed to stop on the.
Speaker 3: SPECTRUM i, mean.
Speaker 2: There's just not a lot Of i'm telling, You, Mat
Speaker 2: i've mentioned this. Before brady made the best point a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when we talked about it on our.
Speaker 2: Show this draft really has no buzz outside of.
Speaker 6: It That's the thing, is it's one of the reasons
Speaker 6: why That Sdor sanders is getting so much. BUZZ i,
Speaker 6: mean he's a bit of a polarizing. Figure but there's
Speaker 6: also the element of this nothing really else around. It
Speaker 6: and outside of these, THREE i would say four prospects
Speaker 6: outside Of Abdul, Carter Travis, Hunter Will, campbell And Ashton
Speaker 6: gent if you're looking at like top overall, prospects there's
Speaker 6: a bit of a drop. Off and even With Will,
Speaker 6: campbell people have you, know questioned his arm. LENGTH i,
Speaker 6: mean outside of Maybe, booker for a lot of the
Speaker 6: tackles or at least guys who played tackle in college
Speaker 6: in this draft, class a lot of these guys might
Speaker 6: get moved inside the guard because of arm. Length i'm
Speaker 6: not sure why that. Is i'm not sure if guys
Speaker 6: are just popping out being three hundred plus pounds with
Speaker 6: short arms, now but something's. Happening but, anyway the general
Speaker 6: point is there's just not as much buzz around, it surrounding.
Speaker 6: IT i actually think the most fascinating thing to, me
Speaker 6: AND i don't know WHY i didn't know, this And
Speaker 6: i'm a little disappointed in you two for not knowing.
Speaker 6: This do you guys know that The La rams never
Speaker 6: invite any of the top thirty prospects in for a.
Speaker 5: VISIT i don't know how you would be disappointed in
Speaker 5: me not knowing, that AND i don't because you guys
Speaker 5: are out IN la and you guys are a little
Speaker 5: bit of like.
Speaker 6: The, Like, hey what's, up, Man let's go TO nobu
Speaker 6: over there In malibu do our whole like trendy thing
Speaker 6: here in The west?
Speaker 7: Coast what's?
Speaker 3: Up?
Speaker 6: BROLL i learned this because the new general, Manager James
Speaker 6: gladstone with The Jacksonville, jaguars who's you know?
Speaker 3: Him and.
Speaker 7: You know the rest of the scouting.
Speaker 6: Staff they've implemented the same exact strategies that The rams would.
Speaker 7: Use and the reason why they.
Speaker 6: Don't invite in, prospects at least the top thirties because
Speaker 6: they don't want to tip their hand to any of
Speaker 6: their team what they're going to do in the first. Round,
Speaker 6: now they still are able to meet with the teams or,
Speaker 6: me excuse, me the prospects via. Zoom but that's all, confidential,
Speaker 6: Right there's no one really is saying like who The
Speaker 6: Jacksonville jaguars are zooming?
Speaker 7: With and when you do those.
Speaker 6: Visits when you bring players, in you know your medical
Speaker 6: staff is going to take another look at them after the,
Speaker 6: combine for, Example but the combines pretty thorough physical, evaluation
Speaker 6: so you don't really need much more unless there might
Speaker 6: be a medical, checkup which again THE nfl is going
Speaker 6: to handle with a follow up checkup from the combine
Speaker 6: for those guys who are still. Injured so they basically
Speaker 6: you go in on these, visits you meet some of the,
Speaker 6: coaches you sit, down talk, more they test you on,
Speaker 6: something you meet maybe some of.
Speaker 7: The, players other people who are out, there but that's really.
Speaker 7: It they can't work you.
Speaker 6: Out so the strategy that they're implementing In, jacksonville the
Speaker 6: saying that they have with The, rams is something that
Speaker 6: kind of fascinates me about this draft THAT i don't
Speaker 6: recall ever hearing about in regards to THE, Rams LIKE
Speaker 6: i was not aware of, That and, look maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 6: MATTER i would feel like from the prospect, perspective not
Speaker 6: that you get a choice and who drafts. You BUT
Speaker 6: i don't want to go see like the. Facility i'd
Speaker 6: want to go meet some of the. Players i'd want
Speaker 6: to go get a vibe for the locker room and
Speaker 6: the organization and getting a sense of all, that, Right,
Speaker 6: like it's kind of weird that from The jaguars perspective
Speaker 6: it might be good for them at least in regards
Speaker 6: to how they see the first round maybe the top
Speaker 6: end of the, Second but for the prospects it doesn't,
Speaker 6: help you. KNOW i, mean you're literally getting drafted and
Speaker 6: shipped off to a place you've maybe never been to.
Speaker 6: Before it's kind of crazy when you think about.
Speaker 2: It maybe they, think if these guys see this, place
Speaker 2: they won't want to be, here so let's just keep it,
Speaker 2: quiet you, know like if they don't know how messy
Speaker 2: the situation.
Speaker 7: Is AND i think The rams isn't The rams stuff? Nice?
Speaker 7: NOW i, MEAN i.
Speaker 2: Guess The rams get most of their attention because they
Speaker 2: were doing that thing That Cliff kingsbury had that real nice. House,
Speaker 2: yeah The, RAMS i guess rent like some beach house
Speaker 2: to where they.
Speaker 7: Do is Their manhattan beach or.
Speaker 10: WHATEVER i.
Speaker 2: THINK i think it was In, Malibu And i'm almost
Speaker 2: positive there was like A covid outbreak one year and
Speaker 2: so they couldn't even like really partake in.
Speaker 3: It it Was Hermosa beachley at Whatever. Malibu, Heumros so
Speaker 3: there's water.
Speaker 6: NEARBY i thought it was more of A South, bay you,
Speaker 6: know like down were Like lighter And, robstone those boys
Speaker 6: are At South bay. BROS i thought it was more
Speaker 6: of that area only because they had like a public area.
Speaker 7: To where there's like the fans were. Involved they could
Speaker 7: bring through.
Speaker 3: Something ye, yeah.
Speaker 6: Which again you you could do that In, jacksonville like
Speaker 6: you could remember that lady you.
Speaker 3: Know oh they interviewed and oh, yeah we we have
Speaker 3: that that. Lady uh she should have The iHeart jags.
Speaker 6: Fan H, yeah we're we are. Exforting were going to
Speaker 6: take it to the. Limit, yeah she talked about her
Speaker 6: beach house that well it's not quite a beach. House
Speaker 6: it's well walk from the.
Speaker 3: Beach but, yeah she she's a big Diehard jags.
Speaker 2: Fan we're efforting that that sound by uh, so let's
Speaker 2: see we're working behind the scenes, here a little, vamped little,
Speaker 2: vamped little.
Speaker 6: Vamp lee's work and don't have it to dance, Dance
Speaker 6: jonas we Got john Being i'm being shook. Off we've
Speaker 6: got an. OUTDANCE i was calling for fast this And
Speaker 6: lisa can just just give thirty. Seconds i'll send it to.
Speaker 7: Him they can turn this.
Speaker 2: Out well, listen ALL i know is this is somebody's
Speaker 2: got to do something to spice up this, draft all.
Speaker 3: Right AND i don't know what it's gonna.
Speaker 2: TAKE i don't know if it's gonna, be uh some
Speaker 2: sort of, drama some sort of you, know maybe A
Speaker 2: CD lamb moment where you, know the girl he's sitting
Speaker 2: with tries to grab his phone and he rips it
Speaker 2: out of her hand because he looks check your text
Speaker 2: message says maybe maybe that wouldn't be a great thing
Speaker 2: to have happen here on national. Television but we just
Speaker 2: need something here because there's just not a whole lot
Speaker 2: of interesting storylines heading into. This So jacksonville not holding
Speaker 2: top thirty. VISITS i, mean some would argue they're not
Speaker 2: a top thirty.
Speaker 6: Team So i'm just, saying isn't it, Interesting like wouldn't
Speaker 6: you wudn't you want to look, at you, know some
Speaker 6: of those, prospects like have them come into your, facility
Speaker 6: sale they interact with, players maybe take him out to a,
Speaker 6: meal see how, that see how that.
Speaker 7: Goes that's going to put the, process like a.
Speaker 6: Zoom interview is drastically different than what it's going to
Speaker 6: be like when you actually have to have them in your.
Speaker 2: Facility oh, yeah, listen anybody who's been ahead a dating
Speaker 2: app knows, that, like you know what.
Speaker 3: What they what they present filters and. Everything oh, yeah
Speaker 3: what they present to. You have you've been single long
Speaker 3: enough to have used dating?
Speaker 7: Apps, yeah there was a time of, case it's a.
Speaker 3: Genus there was a time really, yeah you, know and, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah are you sure about?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 2: POSITIVE i ain't going? Asked, okay, yeah, positive leave you
Speaker 2: where you're, at you, know. Positive there there was a
Speaker 2: time but that you, know it's a long time. Ago but,
Speaker 2: yeah you, know somebody, says all, right uh, OH i
Speaker 2: saw a thumb go? Up all, Right, lee what's the thumb?
Speaker 11: Up?
Speaker 3: Mean what does that?
Speaker 7: Mean on?
Speaker 3: Radio we got?
Speaker 7: Her all?
Speaker 2: Right we got to, say this is A jags fan
Speaker 2: who last brush your teeth or last brush tooth.
Speaker 3: In nineteen eighty?
Speaker 2: Eight who's Diehards jags. Fan let's let's take a. Listen furst.
Speaker 3: Picks they say they have the best draft in the ENTIRE.
Speaker 1: Nfl are you surprised to hear?
Speaker 11: That certainly not the First we took it to the,
Speaker 11: limit AND i was In miami with my new beach. House,
Speaker 11: well it was a couple of minutes from the.
Speaker 1: Beach it's been twenty years since. Then we haven't been
Speaker 1: too strong in the last few.
Speaker 7: Years, oh we've been.
Speaker 11: Strong we're just playing by the. Rules you can't have
Speaker 11: a newcomer come in and steal a.
Speaker 4: Show.
Speaker 3: Thanks, honestly sounded like a.
Speaker 7: Cigarettes, yeah sounded like a.
Speaker 3: Yeah white paper, surgery just have a cart In. Hurst
Speaker 3: these as funny as, hell. THOUGH i loved.
Speaker 5: It, well you can't have someone new the rules steal the,
Speaker 5: show all, Right, well clearly this draft is not very.
Speaker 5: Interesting there aren't very many interesting.
Speaker 2: Storyline, yes so you're saying that's why they don't have
Speaker 2: Any top thirty.
Speaker 3: Visits they don't want to see her at the. FACILITY i.
Speaker 6: See one of THE pff guys was saying on one
Speaker 6: of their, podcasts he would take Arch manning right now
Speaker 6: as the As he'd rather take him right, now and
Speaker 6: he's only played about hundred snaps and had a couple of.
Speaker 7: Starts he would take him right now over any quarterback
Speaker 7: in this.
Speaker 6: Draft which it sheds a little bit of light on
Speaker 6: the fact that the quarterbacks typically drive the interest in.
Speaker 7: Drafts it's just the reality of. It and this year
Speaker 7: is not, viewed as you, know as deep of.
Speaker 6: A draft class at the quarterback. Position next year will
Speaker 6: be an entirely different. Story next year will be a
Speaker 6: draft class that is gonna be set up with again
Speaker 6: probably four guys taking the first, round maybe five, more
Speaker 6: similar to last.
Speaker 2: Year and then it was this, year, well, listen we
Speaker 2: can only, hope we can only hope we get something.
Speaker 3: Spicy but until, then at least we got our. Jacks
Speaker 3: what would that be?
Speaker 2: THOUGH i don't, know, man, LISTEN i through. That, look
Speaker 2: we've already had somebody do, it you, know gas mask
Speaker 2: whatever you. Want that was, like by the, way wasn't
Speaker 2: that gas mask before?
Speaker 3: VAPES i think it was really ahead of his time
Speaker 3: if you think about.
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Speaker 2: Albert BREER, ab what's.
Speaker 3: Happening good morning to, You? Albert what's?
Speaker 4: Up? Guys how we doing all?
Speaker 2: Right have you gotten any pushback or flak regarding your
Speaker 2: article that you wrote about in your piece about your
Speaker 2: Door sanders from earlier this?
Speaker 4: Week not?
Speaker 10: Much, NO i MEAN i, think, uh you, KNOW i
Speaker 10: think when you write the truth, it you, KNOW i
Speaker 10: think you're. Okay SO i haven't gotten any major pushback
Speaker 10: on WHAT i wrote about him.
Speaker 3: Now so The sanders camp hasn't come after, you and, uh.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, NO i MEAN i think BUT i THINK
Speaker 10: i think they're starting to, realize like they're starting to
Speaker 10: realize what is real.
Speaker 4: And what's not.
Speaker 10: Here AND i do Think like, AGAIN i said this
Speaker 10: to you guys for over a. MONTH i think right like,
Speaker 10: THAT I i don't think LIKE i don't think.
Speaker 4: That a lot of the league views him as a
Speaker 4: first round.
Speaker 10: Talent And i'm not telling you that that that means
Speaker 10: he's not gonna wind up having a GREAT nfl career
Speaker 10: and be a top ten quarterback all.
Speaker 4: That LIKE, I i don't, know you, KNOW i don't
Speaker 4: know what this is going to. Become WHAT i can
Speaker 4: tell you is what is right.
Speaker 10: Now and what is right now is a lot of
Speaker 10: these teams look at it and SAY i WOULDN'T i
Speaker 10: wouldn't take them.
Speaker 4: In the first round even IF i needed a.
Speaker 10: Quarterback so a lot like Bon nick's last, YEAR i
Speaker 10: think this is going to come down to some team
Speaker 10: seeing them as a fit more so than other teams.
Speaker 6: Would, okay that being, said, though and you've done this
Speaker 6: for a long, time how many, prospects, though get pushed
Speaker 6: up into the first? Round LIKE i find it hilarious
Speaker 6: that there's always like fifty guys who are going to
Speaker 6: be first round, picks at least based on what the
Speaker 6: agents are telling, them, Right and in, reality most teams
Speaker 6: probably don't have thirty two first round grades on all
Speaker 6: the prospects they end up drafting them the first round
Speaker 6: that they don't have a first round grade on. Them
Speaker 6: so If Shador sanders has looked at in some people's
Speaker 6: minds as the number two, quarterback you know how many
Speaker 6: quarterbacks then at this point even have a first round?
Speaker 6: Right is it Just Cam woard at this? Point and
Speaker 6: then how many players in general are do you think
Speaker 6: are really have first round grades that teams are, saying,
Speaker 6: yeah but you know they don't have round game we're take.
Speaker 3: In the first.
Speaker 10: Round, no it's a good, Point, Brady LIKE i think
Speaker 10: this is this year that numbers, low you know WHAT i?
Speaker 10: Mean like and even in a great, year you guys know,
Speaker 10: this like the the number might be twenty twenty, two twenty, four,
Speaker 10: Right LIKE i think this year that number is probably
Speaker 10: closer to like twelve or thirteen for some teams like
Speaker 10: where and look like some of it is like you,
Speaker 10: know like they're gonna different teams go to look at
Speaker 10: different guys different, ways so they're not going to come
Speaker 10: off to see the board the same. Way there's not
Speaker 10: the consensus that people think there. Is like after you
Speaker 10: get past the first couple of. Guys you, know like
Speaker 10: there's going to be disagreement from team to team based on,
Speaker 10: fit based on like what your doctors, say based.
Speaker 4: On all of those. Things, Right so.
Speaker 10: So, yeah like that, number that number is, low and
Speaker 10: quarterbacks get pushed in the first round more than any other.
Speaker 10: Positions so that's definitely something you have to take into account,
Speaker 10: here is that teams get desperate and it's the most
Speaker 10: important position on the. Field and you, know like in
Speaker 10: some cases owners can get involved saying like we have
Speaker 10: to come away with a, quarterback come hell or high,
Speaker 10: water you, know and it's how you, know it's How
Speaker 10: Christian ponder winds up going twelfth, overall let's pick on.
Speaker 4: Him it's HOW.
Speaker 10: Ej manuel winds up going sixteenth.
Speaker 4: Overall you, KNOW i think you'd argue it is.
Speaker 10: How Kenny pickett went in the first round a couple
Speaker 10: of years.
Speaker 4: Ago you.
Speaker 10: Know it's, like if you're pre determining that we have
Speaker 10: to take a quarterback in a certain, year, well that
Speaker 10: doesn't automatically mean there's going to be one worthy of
Speaker 10: going where you're, picking you, know but sometimes sometimes teams
Speaker 10: will look at it and, say you know, what like
Speaker 10: we need to take care of this once and for all,
Speaker 10: now And i'd argue that's often when the mistakes are.
Speaker 5: Made with all that being, Said, abe they did bring
Speaker 5: in three quarterbacks to work out In New?
Speaker 3: York is THAT i? Mean is that? Posturing is?
Speaker 11: That?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay let me.
Speaker 10: Know SO i would tell, You, LeVar i think this
Speaker 10: goes back to the, fall, right, like and one THING
Speaker 10: i think that was very very, clear like starting in
Speaker 10: the fall was how much work.
Speaker 4: The giants were going to do on. Quarterbacks and they did.
Speaker 10: A, ton and so they got you, KNOW i, know people, said,
Speaker 10: oh they were around you do her a lot in the.
Speaker 10: Fall they were around all these guys a lot in the.
Speaker 10: Fall SO i mean there are even a few guys
Speaker 10: that didn't come out that were in that. Category Drew
Speaker 10: aller At Penn state And Garrett nusmeyer you know AT,
Speaker 10: lsu And Carson beck At georgia.
Speaker 4: And now At.
Speaker 10: Miami like they were around those guys a ton during
Speaker 10: the fall because they knew quarterback was going to be
Speaker 10: need for them and they wanted to really dive in
Speaker 10: and get to know the class really. Well so like
Speaker 10: this is the last piece of. That AND i think
Speaker 10: they will take a quarterback, somewhere BUT i don't think
Speaker 10: that the likelihood right now is they take a third.
Speaker 10: Overall they did work Out Jackson dart about a month.
Speaker 10: Ago they worked them out in Mid, march so like
Speaker 10: that was the first the private workhouse they. Did and you,
Speaker 10: know now they're getting these three done here at the
Speaker 10: end and being what to do her, Today Jalen Miller
Speaker 10: roe tomorrow.
Speaker 4: And Tyler shuck On.
Speaker 10: Saturday SO i mean they've run the gamut with all
Speaker 10: of these, guys and you, KNOW i think reading into
Speaker 10: it is like this is like a new level of
Speaker 10: interest or this is like some sort of renewed, interest
Speaker 10: LIKE i think as much as anything.
Speaker 4: Else and this is you, know SOMETHING i wrote the other.
Speaker 10: Day this Is John mara basically saying to this, guys,
Speaker 10: like if we're going to pass on the quarterback at, three,
Speaker 10: like let's make sure we know what we're passing. ON i,
Speaker 10: mean you may remember seven years ago they didn't make
Speaker 10: a mistake Taking Saquon barkley second, overall But Josh allen
Speaker 10: was under consideration, there you, know and and so you
Speaker 10: know they wind up passing.
Speaker 4: On On Josh allen at that.
Speaker 10: Point and you, KNOW i think part of it for
Speaker 10: the for the for the maras you know, again is,
Speaker 10: well you, know if we're if we're not taking a
Speaker 10: quarterback of three with this crying need we have with
Speaker 10: this pick that we, have then we need to be
Speaker 10: damn sure we know these guys inside now before we do.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 2: Albert as far as The giants, go because we were
Speaker 2: talking about that, earlier is what's the potential of, them you,
Speaker 2: know maybe moving back out of the pick if they
Speaker 2: don't have a need for an edge rusher like An Abdull,
Speaker 2: carter maybe there's a team that desperately wants him or
Speaker 2: is interested in that as being their. Pick so have
Speaker 2: you heard any teams specifically that have, called or any
Speaker 2: teams to keep an eye on that could potentially be.
Speaker 4: Moving, YEAH i don't know that anybody's.
Speaker 10: COMING i, MEAN i think IT'S i think it's hard
Speaker 10: logistically this year because you can take the draft value
Speaker 10: chart and throw it out this. Year the reason why
Speaker 10: at leayst at the very top of the. Draft the
Speaker 10: reason why is because After hunter And, carter there's this feeling.
Speaker 4: That the picks you've been making.
Speaker 10: There whether It's Will campbell Or Jalen walker Or Mason
Speaker 10: graham or any of these, Guys Tyler, Warren ashton gent
Speaker 10: like a lot of those guys would probably be picked
Speaker 10: fifteenth or twentieth last, year right, Like so, like if
Speaker 10: you're the giants Are, Browns you're looking at it and
Speaker 10: you're there two and three with two guys on the
Speaker 10: board that are legitimate blue chip, guys and you're, saying all, right,
Speaker 10: well if we're gonna move out here, year going.
Speaker 4: Down to six this year would be like going down
Speaker 4: to twenty last.
Speaker 10: Year and if that's the, case, well then, like aren't
Speaker 10: you gonna ask for more from those? Teams and are
Speaker 10: those teams willing to pay that premium to come and move?
Speaker 10: OFF i think that complication thing is quite a BAD.
Speaker 5: I would Ask. MOTT i guess maybe not my final,
Speaker 5: question But i'm curious ABOUT i made the point, Earlier,
Speaker 5: abea you know The New England patriots are and let
Speaker 5: me know If i'm accurate or. OFF i didn't know
Speaker 5: IF i was off or. Not but it sounds Like
Speaker 5: Mike vrabel was interested IN. Tj watt because negotiations aren't
Speaker 5: going very well In. Pittsburgh if that is the, case
Speaker 5: well what does this mean for possibly making a move
Speaker 5: and you're at, Four but would you think that there's
Speaker 5: the possibility that they would try to maybe swap out
Speaker 5: with The giants to maybe get out dual car if
Speaker 5: they don't get a T j ON i mean hearing
Speaker 5: that they WANT tj what would come across to me
Speaker 5: as you are placing a very very high priority on
Speaker 5: the idea of that, position, correct?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 10: Right, so LIKE i Think Jalen walker is somebody to
Speaker 10: be in the mix for them to at, for you,
Speaker 10: Know and and it's you're juxtaposing that against like what
Speaker 10: they the crying need they have for a, tackle right
Speaker 10: like an help protect their young. Quarterbacks so you, know
Speaker 10: whether that's you, Know Will campbell or Arm On menbu.
Speaker 4: Or Kelvin banks, whatever you.
Speaker 10: Know LIKE I i think that that's sort of the
Speaker 10: internal debate you're talking about that's probably happening there. NOW
Speaker 10: i don't know they would give. UP i mean they
Speaker 10: JUST i think the problem for them is they just
Speaker 10: have too many needs to be giving up a ton
Speaker 10: of capital to go up a.
Speaker 4: Spot and you, know.
Speaker 10: If they were to, say give up both their third
Speaker 10: round picks to go up a, spot well then you
Speaker 10: know that's where the strength of this year's draft is
Speaker 10: AND i think that complicated a little bit. Too is
Speaker 10: like most teams look at it and, say, okay like you,
Speaker 10: know one to twenty isn't as strong as it usually,
Speaker 10: is but like twenty to seventy is pretty, good you.
Speaker 4: Know and so if you have if you have a
Speaker 4: good amount of, capital you.
Speaker 10: Know there on on On friday the draft they're in
Speaker 10: around two and, three feel pretty good about. That so
Speaker 10: do you want to give up that capital to fill you,
Speaker 10: know the number of means that you have on the
Speaker 10: roster to jump one? SPOT i think it's a fair
Speaker 10: question to, ask you.
Speaker 4: Know and then like what, again what does it take
Speaker 4: The giants to move.
Speaker 10: Down from from from you, know taking from Taking Abdul
Speaker 10: carter at three to maybe take like Save Mason graham at?
Speaker 4: Four like how do they view? THAT i think all
Speaker 4: of that's part of the, Equation.
Speaker 7: ALBERT i want to ask you About Tyler.
Speaker 6: Shuck it seems like he's gotten a lot of positive
Speaker 6: momentum Since dinnersina came out and says she had ONE
Speaker 6: nfl head coach who said he they like him best
Speaker 6: of any of these. Quarterbacks is he that surprise guy
Speaker 6: that could end up going in the first round What i'm.
Speaker 10: Talking, About, YEAH i MEAN i think HE'S i don't
Speaker 10: think it's crazy to think like he could like somebody
Speaker 10: could trade into the bottom of the first. Round LIKE i,
Speaker 10: think like all these, guys like there's just like a
Speaker 10: wide range of outcomes for all of. Them like WHERE
Speaker 10: i could See shuck going into the first, ROUND i
Speaker 10: could see him sliding.
Speaker 4: A little in the second, round you, know LIKE I
Speaker 4: and he's he's.
Speaker 10: A fascinating one because he's got a lot of things
Speaker 10: some of these other, guys, don't you know WHAT i.
Speaker 10: Mean he's got the, size he's got a big, arm you,
Speaker 10: know he's a he's a good. Athlete he ran four,
Speaker 10: SIX i, believe, Right like, so like he's got a
Speaker 10: lot of the things you, like but he's going to
Speaker 10: be twenty. Six he's got the classical. Injury you, know
Speaker 10: he's had trouble staying in the.
Speaker 4: Field over the.
Speaker 10: Years so LIKE i think with each of these, guys
Speaker 10: there's something you got to kind of wrap your head,
Speaker 10: around you, know and like, okay like what AM i
Speaker 10: okay working? With and the medical is going to be
Speaker 10: a big piece of it for For Tyler, shuck AND
Speaker 10: i think the the fact that he's a little older
Speaker 10: is something you have to you have to be comfortable with. Too,
Speaker 10: ULTIMATELY i THINK i Think cleveland would be an interesting
Speaker 10: team for. Him and they're picking right there at the
Speaker 10: top of the second, round so you, know we'll see
Speaker 10: where that. Goes BUT i think he'd probably be right
Speaker 10: in that, range LIKE, i you, know i'd Be i'd
Speaker 10: be surprised to me if he goes in the first,
Speaker 10: round BUT i certainly you, THINK i don't think that's
Speaker 10: off the, table AND i think he's you, know, LIKE
Speaker 10: i think he probably goes somewhere in the second.
Speaker 2: Round Albert brier joining us here on The Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2: Show you can get him on x At Albert. Brier
Speaker 2: what's the real story Behind Derek carr's.
Speaker 4: Injury, yeah there's a lot.
Speaker 10: THERE i, mean the injury is two years, old so
Speaker 10: that's something to consider, certainly.
Speaker 4: You, know so like you have that and then you
Speaker 4: know on top of, it LIKE i you, know there was.
Speaker 10: One point in the off season when he was looking
Speaker 10: for a market correction to this. Contract you, know then
Speaker 10: then you, know does he want to be? Traded that
Speaker 10: words sort of circul editor around the league in Early.
Speaker 4: March then.
Speaker 10: You, know like then they do the conversion on his,
Speaker 10: contract WHICH i mean they didn't have they didn't need
Speaker 10: to seek permission for, That like they had the automatic
Speaker 10: conversion in the, contract so they weren't able to do that.
Speaker 10: Unilaterally but they still they didn't really work with him on,
Speaker 10: it and so like they just go and do, that
Speaker 10: which basically locks him into.
Speaker 4: The team for this.
Speaker 10: Year and now you hear like this injury thing all
Speaker 10: of a, sudden there is an. Issue there's just there's
Speaker 10: a lot going on, THERE i would, say and there's
Speaker 10: a lot to sort through for for for For Derek
Speaker 10: carr and The. Saints AND i don't know the way this,
Speaker 10: ends but it certainly had a layer to to where
Speaker 10: they're at going into the, draft what they might do
Speaker 10: with the nine overall, tick what they might do on
Speaker 10: The friday of the.
Speaker 4: Draft, YEAH i think they.
Speaker 10: Were they were they were looking pretty heavily at quarterbacks
Speaker 10: to begin. With it'll be interesting to see if it
Speaker 10: affects their approach when they get to the actual.
Speaker 5: Draft you mention early are going at the draft And
Speaker 5: i'm passing On, alan what what's your. Take i've been
Speaker 5: telling the whole entire world for so, long and And
Speaker 5: i've just been ringing the bell and and just trying
Speaker 5: to holler from every mountaintop THAT i can About Ashton
Speaker 5: genty and and his his.
Speaker 3: Talent and, No i'm. JOKING i take it up up
Speaker 3: to messing With. Brady.
Speaker 5: Uh brady has actually been telling people how Great Ashton
Speaker 5: genty has been before he became maybe more so of
Speaker 5: a household, name how should we be looking at you,
Speaker 5: know where he's, at and how set up for this year's.
Speaker 10: Draft i've ACTUALLY i tried to ask people my, conversations
Speaker 10: like how does he match up with the guys that
Speaker 10: have gone in that range at that position in recent?
Speaker 10: Years so say Kwan Zeke, elliott you, Know Leonard, Fournette christian,
Speaker 10: McCaffrey there are very many of, them you, Know Jon,
Speaker 10: robber and so there are.
Speaker 4: Very many guys that have gone in that.
Speaker 10: Range AND i the Feedback i've got is like he's
Speaker 10: maybe like a slight notch below that group of, guys you,
Speaker 10: know but he's a really really good.
Speaker 4: Player and because he's so clean.
Speaker 10: Character, wise like you have like a really good idea
Speaker 10: of what you're going to get with, him, Right so
Speaker 10: is it gonna be the best back in? FOOTBALL i don't,
Speaker 10: know you, know BECAUSE i think all those GUYS i,
Speaker 10: mentioned like we're seeing as, like, okay like there's got
Speaker 10: a potential to be the best player. Disposition but he's
Speaker 10: a damn good, player AND i think like where he
Speaker 10: goes just sort of depends on how you approach that
Speaker 10: position in. GENERAL i think this this relates To Tyler
Speaker 10: warren to some, degree to where you, know just a
Speaker 10: really good player and you, know like it's it's kind
Speaker 10: of you, know going to come down to team's comfort
Speaker 10: level with you, know spending top ten picks on those.
Speaker 2: Positions maybe does it feel like this draft is lacking
Speaker 2: a little uh little.
Speaker 10: Buzz i'll tell you what if she do or starts, sliding.
Speaker 3: It Won't, okay that's what we're holding.
Speaker 10: On, YEAH i, mean LIKE i think you're, Right like last,
Speaker 10: year if you, remember like the sexy positions were all were, loaded,
Speaker 10: right like you had, quarterbacks you had, RECEIVERS i mean
Speaker 10: it was it was and and and even if like
Speaker 10: you're talking about just premium positions in, general with the
Speaker 10: offensive tackles that were, THERE i mean last year was
Speaker 10: one of those years where it was, like if you
Speaker 10: need help at a premium.
Speaker 4: Spot you can get.
Speaker 10: It it was a GOOD tv, DRAFT i would, say you,
Speaker 10: know like with the three quarterbacks of the top six
Speaker 10: in the top twelve and then you Know Marvin, Harrison
Speaker 10: Elik neighbors And Roma dunze there in the top. Ten
Speaker 10: this draft is not that. Way so this draft.
Speaker 4: Doesn't have that sort of star.
Speaker 10: Power you're gonna have offensive line and you're gonna, have you,
Speaker 10: know defensive, line AND i think pretty heavy in the
Speaker 10: first twenty picks or. So so, LOOK i think this
Speaker 10: draft's going to be about. Storylines and one of the
Speaker 10: storylines is what happens was Shad OR i think IT'S
Speaker 10: i think one thing that is cool about is Because
Speaker 10: i'd say it flattens out after the first two, guys
Speaker 10: like After hunter And, carter you're going to kind of
Speaker 10: get to a point WHERE i think it's gonna be pretty,
Speaker 10: unpredictable and so there could be some curve balls and
Speaker 10: certain guys going ahead of other guys BECAUSE i think
Speaker 10: it is sort of, flat like once you.
Speaker 4: Get past those two.
Speaker 10: Guys So i'll enjoy, it But i'll enjoy, it BUT
Speaker 10: i can understand where it would be lacking a little
Speaker 10: bit like the drive by.
Speaker 6: Fans, albert did you say you felt like there was
Speaker 6: gonna be a lot of trades or maybe not a
Speaker 6: lot of.
Speaker 7: TRADES i couldn't remember when we talked to you a
Speaker 7: couple weeks.
Speaker 4: Ago, YEAH i don't think there'll be a lot at the.
Speaker 4: TOP i think you get in the back half of
Speaker 4: the first.
Speaker 10: ROUND i think that DYNAMIC i had Mentioned brady about
Speaker 10: how like if you're, again if you're valuing this year's
Speaker 10: fifteenth tick like you would last year's fifth, pick or
Speaker 10: the other way, around if you if you if you
Speaker 10: value this year since the pick like you would last
Speaker 10: year's fifteen, sick THEN i think that logistically makes it
Speaker 10: difficult to move in the first. Round AND i do
Speaker 10: think it's like you like view say you view Like
Speaker 10: Will campbell and Arm on Membo, is or you View
Speaker 10: Jalen walker And Michael williams And Shamar stewart like there's
Speaker 10: not a huge, difference like Or Will johnson And Jai. Baron,
Speaker 10: well then, like what's going to motivate you to move?
Speaker 4: Up LIKE i think the motivation to move up is
Speaker 4: like when the.
Speaker 10: Supply in those spots maybe starts to throw and dry a,
Speaker 10: little and that's later in the first. Round So i'd,
Speaker 10: say like the first half of the first ROUND i
Speaker 10: think will be relatively, static and then we get the
Speaker 10: back half of the, round things.
Speaker 4: Change a little.
Speaker 6: Bit so so real quick on that, Note, typically when
Speaker 6: there's these different draft, classes you've always, said and this
Speaker 6: used to be around the, combine we'd bump into each.
Speaker 6: Other teams would be like salivating over a guy in
Speaker 6: like the next year's, draft sometimes at a certain. Position
Speaker 6: and obviously this quarterback class is viewed as one that's
Speaker 6: that's weaker in compared to last. Year is there a
Speaker 6: sense of that With Arch? Manning like is there a
Speaker 6: sense around THE nfl in league that, like if he
Speaker 6: does what everyone thinks he's going to do this, year
Speaker 6: that he would leave and he, would without a doubt
Speaker 6: be one of those generational prospects because THE nfl has
Speaker 6: seen the store twice before or maybe three, times including the,
Speaker 6: brothers but through generations of The manning's working.
Speaker 10: Out, YEAH i, MEAN i can't wait to see what.
Speaker 10: HAPPENED i don't know that anybody can speak to it
Speaker 10: with a lot of like certainty at this point, me
Speaker 10: gause hee, talent, Right, like BUT i don't, Know, brady
Speaker 10: what do you? Think LIKE i look at it like
Speaker 10: he had his two starts were against inferior, opponents wasn't?
Speaker 10: It it was against like a directional school and like
Speaker 10: a or was?
Speaker 4: IT i can't, remember but it was against the.
Speaker 10: Directional SCHOOL i think in The Mississippi state who was
Speaker 10: we didn't want a game in THE. Sec, so, Like
Speaker 10: i'm not saying that to knock, him but it's, just you,
Speaker 10: know like you still haven't seen.
Speaker 4: Enough like and if if his name.
Speaker 10: Were you, know if his last name Were, smith, LIKE
Speaker 10: i think we'd probably be looking at him And texas
Speaker 10: fans would be super excited because of what he is.
Speaker 10: Physically BUT i don't think we'd be talking about him
Speaker 10: like he's gonna be the first tick in the, draft you.
Speaker 4: Know so so two.
Speaker 6: Things he obviously bigger than quin you weres and obviously
Speaker 6: yours was dealing with some sort of injury what have.
Speaker 6: You but even when yours was, healthy stronger, arm better.
Speaker 6: Athlete AND i think that's going to translate In sarkisian
Speaker 6: system of a big year in, particular what week one
Speaker 6: they played some some Big. SCHOOL i think if it
Speaker 6: shows out week, one this upcoming season will set the
Speaker 6: time for the rest of.
Speaker 4: It, Right, well, yeah AND i agree with. That like
Speaker 4: here's WHERE i would say, though like just looking.
Speaker 6: At the, Fan so you're, saying if he beats down
Speaker 6: who they play week one like it like here comes
Speaker 6: the hype.
Speaker 7: Train is that what you're?
Speaker 10: Saying, yeah if he if he shows out in week, One,
Speaker 10: yeah that the hype train can leave the.
Speaker 4: STATION i would say.
Speaker 10: This SO i THINK i Think Cooper manning has done
Speaker 10: an incredible, job like from WHAT i can see at
Speaker 10: least managing like his helping helping to manage his, sons
Speaker 10: like like you, know his playing. CAREER i don't, Know
Speaker 10: LIKE i don't know why anybody gets will get the
Speaker 10: idea that it's automatic that that he's going to come
Speaker 10: out if he has a great.
Speaker 4: YEAR i, mean if you look at, It.
Speaker 10: Peyton, Stayed eli stayed.
Speaker 4: When they were in, school you, Know Arch manning in
Speaker 4: a spot when a lot.
Speaker 10: Of guys would have Left, texas he stayed and stuck
Speaker 10: it out and sat for two. Years and then there's
Speaker 10: a lot like there's a lot of evidence that what
Speaker 10: is the MARKET.
Speaker 4: I think it's like twenty five starts in.
Speaker 10: College like there's a big difference when you're talking about
Speaker 10: it being a predictor for success in the. Pros like
Speaker 10: generally guys who start a lot of games in college
Speaker 10: have a bit of have an advantage over guys that.
Speaker 10: Don't so LIKE i would just look at, it LIKE i,
Speaker 10: mean like everything we know about The manning, family it
Speaker 10: tells us like they're not Gonna they're not going to
Speaker 10: just chase money or a certain draft position if it's
Speaker 10: there for, Them LIKE I i don't, know it just
Speaker 10: it feels to me like it's a lot more likely
Speaker 10: that he's going to spend at least two years as
Speaker 10: the starting quarterback At.
Speaker 4: TEXAS i might be, wrong but but but it just
Speaker 4: it at least feels that way to me.
Speaker 10: Now and you, KNOW i, again LIKE i, mean we
Speaker 10: talked about next year's.
Speaker 4: CLASS i think there are.
Speaker 10: Some guys look at throughout Or Kent, State Garrett nathmeyer AT,
Speaker 10: Lsu Leonora's sellers At South. CAROLINA i JUST i don't.
Speaker 10: KNOW i don't know that it'd be so fast About
Speaker 10: Arch manning and that class base and what we know
Speaker 10: about how his family's handled these into the.
Speaker 7: Past but again week.
Speaker 6: One if he if he just blows out that upon
Speaker 6: A week, one especially on the, road you know you
Speaker 6: have a good good.
Speaker 10: Sense that you're willing your willingness to.
Speaker 4: Happen, now, hu you really just do you?
Speaker 7: Know do you happen to know Who texas Plays week
Speaker 7: one next?
Speaker 3: YEAR i?
Speaker 4: DO i? DO i MEAN i heard there's another.
Speaker 10: Highly scouted quarterback that might be playing that by the
Speaker 10: name Of julian saying you might.
Speaker 3: Want To i'm just on the same page, Here i'm sar, sure,
Speaker 3: Huh i'm sure on the same.
Speaker 10: Page, yeah you might want to shut you up on
Speaker 10: him for picking and.
Speaker 4: Kickoff you guys might be talking about.
Speaker 7: Buddy here and here's how little you. Know then here's
Speaker 7: how little you.
Speaker 6: Know last spring, game when everyone was drooling About Jeremi,
Speaker 6: SMITH i sat there instead on the, BROADCAST i said
Speaker 6: joy and saying has the higher upside Like Ohio, STATE
Speaker 6: i think could have done what they did last, year
Speaker 6: even with.
Speaker 10: Saying, starting, wow well you made me feel a lot.
Speaker 4: BETTER i appreciate, That, brady thank.
Speaker 3: You it all comes, here it is ab weppreciate.
Speaker 11: It.
Speaker 3: Man we'll do it again next.
Speaker 4: Week thanks, guys