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Speaker 1: Really really talks. Look at us now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring this show. I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you hear that. What you told you?

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Speaker 2: There's not a day that goes by. I don't look

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Speaker 2: like shit.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna talk during my intro.

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Speaker 2: Luke. Okay, I've always said I was hosting.

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Speaker 3: No, we just agreed that I was because you wanted

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Speaker 3: to admit. You said, do you want the show to

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Speaker 3: be more fun than you should host it? That's exactly

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Speaker 3: the conversation that just happened. I said, Okay, great, and

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Speaker 3: here we are. Oh fricking yeah, Luke, We've got male

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Speaker 3: bags and that's what we're going to be flaunting today.

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Speaker 3: Happy fourth of July. It's Monday, July third. This is

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Speaker 3: pre taped. We like to tell you that up front

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Speaker 3: in the sports in the space time continuum here, but

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Speaker 3: you've stumbled upon Morning Combat, and while your other shows

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Speaker 3: are on vacation observing the fourth we are putting in

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Speaker 3: the work to answer your friggin questions. You're looking at

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Speaker 3: BC Brian Campbell, one half of this fantastic award winning

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Speaker 3: duo Luke Thomas on the other side, Mikey Morms from

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Speaker 3: CBS Sports on the ones in two's, Uh, Luke, what

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Speaker 3: do you have to say about the Fourth of July?

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Speaker 3: Is this this all about freedom and America to you

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Speaker 2: Now? It's about where in the city. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: get a view of the fireworks? Okay? Is about it?

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Speaker 3: That's very patriotic of you.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a little bit more than that. But

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Speaker 3: Luke, is it fair to say that you you not fought,

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Speaker 3: but you put in time to help defend this great country.

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Speaker 3: At some point you're left, that's safe.

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Speaker 2: I've volunteered, Yes, I volunteered.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well you took money from it from Uncle Sam.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't try to act like this was some type of.

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Speaker 2: Like I would not say. I would not say a

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Speaker 2: No, No he did not. So the way it would

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Speaker 2: All deals are eight year deals, which people don't realize.

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Speaker 3: I appreciated. This is a memorial day or veteran and State,

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Speaker 3: but happy birthday to this great land. End of patriotism. Luke,

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Speaker 3: Let's just randomly hit the skins for the hell of it,

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Speaker 3: at sixty nine. Jimmy the Jet sixty nine. How do

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Speaker 3: you like that name? Luke? That's our real name? Right?

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Speaker 3: Time to end this suffering. I need a minute to

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Speaker 3: so to not turn cynical, Luke. We do this for

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Speaker 3: when there's BS elements of it, and anything good has

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Speaker 2: Self loathing is a very effective way of dealing with

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not asking your moraley, you know your moral

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Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, switch and sport what

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Speaker 3: most about this show is it's really stupid. But also

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's not just about combat sports. We

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Speaker 3: like to. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe, maybe you know, seventy

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Speaker 3: come from your fan base that are like enough BC,

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Speaker 3: enough dick jokes, enough all that shit. I want you

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Speaker 3: to preview every UFC fight on the card, and I

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Speaker 3: want you to review every UFC fight on the car,

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Speaker 3: but separate from those folks, Luke, I think our show

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Speaker 2: See, I I've our show. If we were like on

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Speaker 2: would never let you have a combat sports focus, not

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Speaker 2: terrestrial radio anyway. But uh, we could do it, Like

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Speaker 2: we could do three hours every single day, like no sweat,

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Speaker 3: It, MK, all day nearly every single day. Let's go

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Speaker 3: zero three. So he's a bald bastard, this guy. Uh, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Well the strike, the striking is respectable, it's just that

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Speaker 3: freaking can't. Josh Emmett, you can't thank you. That was

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Speaker 2: I love those guys. Hey, yeah, they Rustic Tribe Designs

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Speaker 3: They have created us some awesome things. They're still threatening

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Speaker 3: to create us a room service diaries table, Luke filled

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Speaker 2: Firstly, Um, I got through about one episode and kind

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Speaker 3: You know, you know that movie he did where he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't It didn't interest me. All right, I'm

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Speaker 3: The he was a is he the basis from Metallica?

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Speaker 3: Still he's the basis from Yeah he He kind of

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Speaker 3: that Jeff Beck one was fantastic. That was on Showtime

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Speaker 3: There is also a David Crosby one that Cameron Crowe

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Speaker 3: Many other ones though. I love a good dog, I

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Speaker 3: see Luke. I've always loved you know, nonfiction more than

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Speaker 2: You know, That's my I'm like, dude, the world is

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Speaker 3: Can't make me. Although I am reading Dune right now, Luke,

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Speaker 3: coming out? Are you that's all I talk about my house?

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Speaker 3: And are you into that name?

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Speaker 2: You mean poor Man Star Wars?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no original Star Wars right that Cheorge Lucas.

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Speaker 3: But indeed, indeed, but don't watch the nineteen eighty four

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Speaker 3: That's just so brillian? Yeah, all right, this is probably

430
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Speaker 3: a conversation for me and Webscream, not me and love Thomas.

431
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Speaker 3: But you better watch it in theaters. Dune two, will you?

432
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I'll see that in theaters? Yeah? Okay?

433
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 3: You would you agree that while you won't do a

434
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Speaker 3: full mast five stars like I will on Dune one

435
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 3: as arguably like a top three movie I've ever seen.

436
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 3: You want you'll say, what will you say about it?

437
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,920
Speaker 3: That's great? Or that's very good?

438
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Speaker 2: I like the first Dune a lot. Yeah, I thought

439
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 2: it was very very good. I enjoyed it. Sure, Okay, okay,

440
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: there you go.

441
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Speaker 3: There you go, Luke, Let's go over to at Kaylin

442
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 3: r Zavalla could be a lady, Luke. How do you

443
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Speaker 3: see Tatiana Suarez versus Aaron Blanchefield if they fought at

444
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 3: one twenty five now? To be fair, Suarez is climbing

445
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 3: the ladder at one fifteen now after returning at flyweight. Louke,

446
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 3: who would win that fight?

447
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a fucking amazing fight, and I

448
00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: don't know, I really don't know. I mean Suarez has

449
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: in theory should have the better wrestling, right, but that

450
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: remains to be seen. Dude, Aaron Blanchfield is terrifying it really.

451
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,719
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing you see like a fight like, So,

452
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,160
Speaker 2: for example, we've seen good wrestling defensively and offensively from

453
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Speaker 2: Aaron blanchewd. Let's say much more on the offensive end.

454
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,880
Speaker 2: But that's not her fault, right, So so I think

455
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Speaker 2: that you know, she would be a hell of a force,

456
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Speaker 2: But the question is not what would she be a

457
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: worthy opponent up front? The question is like by the

458
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: deep second round, maybe heading into the third, what is

459
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 2: what does the wrestling look like then? Right when you've

460
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: used all of your tricks and now it's a little

461
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: bit more about just kind of core fundamentals and who

462
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: kind of wants it more in those grinding moments. I

463
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: don't have any doubt about her commitment, but like the

464
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Speaker 2: depth of knowledge and sort of wrestling sensibility that Tatana

465
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Speaker 2: Sworrez has, how would that how would that equate? What

466
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Speaker 2: would that look like deep into a fight where the

467
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: margin between them is thin but can break. I don't know,

468
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer to that is. That's

469
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Speaker 2: That's that's why. I mean, you know, we get we

470
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Speaker 2: do okay, bet we have no fucking idea what we're doing.

471
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Speaker 2: But this is really one of those fights where like, honestly,

472
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Speaker 2: I don't really have a clear sense about what it

473
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Speaker 2: would look like.

474
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Speaker 3: I mean, it would come down to striking probably, so,

475
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. Tatian Suarez's striking didn't look

476
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Speaker 3: insanely great and that comeback it was more just about

477
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 3: the deliberate wrestling and takedowns to get the job done.

478
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Speaker 3: But can you take blenchfield down and control over there?

479
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: And if not, what does that boxing match look like?

480
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Speaker 3: I'm not really sure. I'd love to see it, though,

481
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: yeah for sure. I mean, look, Tatiana is going to

482
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Speaker 3: going to where a UFC title?

483
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Speaker 2: Are you?

484
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Speaker 3: Are you prepared for that?

485
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Speaker 2: Sure? Sure? I mean she should have had one a

486
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: while ago, could be, To be quite honest with.

487
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Speaker 3: You, yeah, yeah, you're damn right about that. This from

488
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: at zel jaish I butchered that guy's name. But whatever, Luke,

489
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Speaker 3: what is your dream vacation right now? What? What's what's

490
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Speaker 3: the one? What's the one that you're like, damn, we

491
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 3: gotta do that. We get honey, we have to do

492
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: that one day. We have to.

493
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Speaker 2: So there's probably two different ones. There's two ones that

494
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Speaker 2: my wife and I have talked about is like the

495
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Speaker 2: dream one. I think one would be a tour between Soul,

496
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Speaker 2: South Korea, Tokyo, Japan, and maybe like other parts within Japan,

497
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: maybe even Australia, like something like that. You know, that

498
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: would be one to see those places, but with the

499
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 2: particular focus on Japan and Korea. The other one, which

500
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Speaker 2: is a little bit more doable, has been one on

501
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Speaker 2: my list. My wife has been to a number of

502
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Speaker 2: places in South America, but she's never been to Argentina,

503
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Speaker 2: which I find a little bit surprising. But it's pretty far.

504
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: It's my understanding is from Bogota to Buenos Aide's is

505
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Speaker 2: like I think eight or nine hours, maybe nine maybe

506
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Speaker 2: maybe even ten something like that. So it's it's far.

507
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Speaker 2: It takes a while to get there. I would love

508
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Speaker 2: I would love to go to Argentina too. I mean

509
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: you can get close to you can get close to

510
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Speaker 2: the South Pole, you can get pretty far. There's obviously

511
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: coastline there. I mean the food forget about it and

512
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: do from what I hear, Argentina, especially if you have,

513
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: American dollars is dirt cheap, like super affordable. In fact,

514
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Speaker 2: there was an article about Americans just like posting up

515
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: there on these digital you know, nomad visas getting like

516
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: plush real estate for like six hundred bucks a month

517
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 2: in downtown Bueneside's like, you just can't believe easily you

518
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: can anyone could afford that shit?

519
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Speaker 3: Doesn't that explain why my Donna never fought again after

520
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: the two Floyd pay per views?

521
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Speaker 2: I mean, why would you broll? How much you think

522
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 2: he made off those two pay per views, like fifteen million?

523
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Speaker 3: I would say he made four million in the first

524
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 3: one because that was about what Floyd was offering opponents,

525
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: and for the rematch he probably made six million.

526
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Speaker 2: Okay, so ten plus some sponsors. Who knows, let's say

527
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 2: ten or eleven million, dude, ten or eleven million in

528
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Argentina is going to go far far, you know. So yeah,

529
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Speaker 2: God bless him, dude. He made some money and beat

530
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Speaker 2: up Floyd a little bit and got out they do.

531
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Speaker 2: That's that's winning.

532
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Speaker 3: As far as I'm concerned, is Argentina the Europe of

533
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Speaker 3: South America. Luke.

534
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Speaker 2: It is a little bit from what I what I understand.

535
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Speaker 2: I want to understand, like if you just look at

536
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: the architecture and who obviously immigrated there from Europe, which

537
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: is you know, direct descendants to Obviously a lot of

538
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 2: Germans are there, but you know plenty more other ones.

539
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: Italians are obviously a huge part of it, and they

540
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: do speak Spanish, but they have a very unique accent,

541
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Speaker 2: and their food is very different, and they kind of

542
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: see themselves, you know, they don't see themselves as like

543
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: closer to Bolivian's than they are the Spanish or the

544
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: Italian I suppose from what I understand anyway.

545
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Speaker 3: So I love that you said your dream trip is,

546
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: or at least you mentioned Tokyo along with Korea. Tokyo's

547
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 3: my dream trip, and my wife and kids don't want

548
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: to go. I want to go so bad. Yeah, maybe

549
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: I need Mark ray Mundy to take me and we

550
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: can go eat at steakhouses that wrestlers frequented back in

551
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: the day. But Mikey, our producer, said he went to

552
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: Japan when he was a pos twelve year old who

553
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: didn't eat fish, and he had a miserable time but

554
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 3: would love to go back. Luke, are you surprised by that?

555
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: Revelation based on the fact that we left that steakhouse

556
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: in London and Mike He's like, hold on, I gotta

557
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: stop it working on.

558
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: The way because like, hold on, I gotta go to

559
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: motherfucking b k Son. What do you know about that? Yeah?

560
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: There you go. H o, wow, you really are a peasant.

561
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: My nature based one is a BAMF National Park outside

562
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Speaker 3: of Calgary, Luke, are you aware of of you know,

563
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: the Blue Canadian Rockies.

564
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: And and the I guess I'm okay.

565
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: Well that's that's where I want to go, right or

566
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 3: Jasper National Park not too far from there that that

567
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Speaker 3: Chris blue Water in the Oh yeah, it's gonna it's

568
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 3: gonna change my life.

569
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Speaker 2: Thank you.

570
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: Hey, let's hear from at Matthew Thomas nine to seven

571
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: zero profit not your Oh yeah, this could be your brother,

572
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 3: yeah with is he born in nineteen seventy year brother? No, okay,

573
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 3: this might not be h with Spence Crawford coming up,

574
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: Do you guys ever see a scenario in the future

575
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 3: where most or all divisions in the sport have one

576
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: champion holding all four belts And if so, oh, how

577
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: big of a deal would that be towards boxing? Making

578
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: becoming more easy for casuals or newbies. I mean, it

579
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 3: would fix everything. That's the dream. Right Like when boxing

580
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: was boxing quote unquote, you had eight divisions, you know,

581
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: seventy years ago, and eventually a second, a second recognized

582
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: title popped up, But for the most part, it was

583
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: every division had one face, one name, one champion. Even though,

584
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas, we are in a better, optimistically fun era

585
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: at the moment where we're getting a lot of unification

586
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: and undisputed championships, where we have we're gonna have one

587
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: face after Spence Crawford, who's the best welts wait in

588
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: the world. If Usik and Fury finally fight, we're gonna

589
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: have one name, one face. The idea that all seventeen

590
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: of boxing's divisions could get there and have a reigning

591
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 3: and defending under disputed champion is absurdly not realistic, and

592
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: the main reason, in my opinion, is because the four

593
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: sanctioning bodies, who are all all regularly under question from

594
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: boxing hardcorees based on their practices and decision making, they

595
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: wouldn't want that. I'm surprised we had as many undisputed

596
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 3: opportunities right now, and the reason why is because in

597
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 3: prior years, sanctioning bodies made that really hard. They'd force

598
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 3: you to defend mandatories or give up the belt despite

599
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: a big fight on the horizon, because they want you

600
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: to be active with their belt, because every time you

601
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: fight with the let's say WBC title, you have to

602
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: pay them a big percentage of your salary. And that's

603
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: why Aerol Spence Junior kind of railed against them at

604
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: the end of the Spencer Crawford Spence presser, and I

605
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 3: don't know if you saw Luke Mauricio Suliman Junior, the

606
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: head of the WBC, responded to that by publishing an

607
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: article on their website supposedly about where all that money goes.

608
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 3: Only the only problem is the article didn't actually mention

609
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 3: where all that money goes. But we have seen people

610
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: rail against the sanctioning bodies in the past. Both Canelo

611
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: and Floyd both gave up titles ahead of big ones

612
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: so they'd have to pay that sanctioning fee. But no,

613
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: I don't ever see a scenario where we have one

614
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: recognized champion, and the reason is because boxing is broken.

615
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: There's too many people at the table that are surviving

616
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: by getting their piece of the pie, and they will

617
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: dig in fight for that piece of the pie unless

618
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: some type of central governing body was created. That feels

619
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: like a pipe dream for boxing just too it's too

620
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: good to be. No, it's not gonna happen. It's not

621
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: gonna happen.

622
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: No, anything that happens to boxing good is accidental.

623
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean sometimes the sanction a body's like

624
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: they're doing right now. They're getting out of each other's

625
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: way to make these big fights. But will that become

626
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: a long term trend. No, no, no, they don't want one.

627
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: They don't want one champion with all four belts fighting

628
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 3: twice a year.

629
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Speaker 2: You see, this is why I've never enjoyed nice things.

630
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: It's because I always know this is gonna come with

631
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: the other end before too long, you know what I mean.

632
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean you can eat a lot of

633
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: great food, but eventually you're gonna have to shit. Luke, Right,

634
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: that's what you're saying.

635
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of defecation talk going on

636
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: from that side. Actually, I should say this side of

637
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: the screen. There huht a lot of talk about maybe

638
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: my haters are right, Luke.

639
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: My comedy bits are down to like three categories. It's

640
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: all I've got left, Luke. Okay, strawwaights, dicks and shit, Okay,

641
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: there you go.

642
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: And skits and bits. Don't forget skits and bits. That's

643
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: a that's a key staple.

644
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: Hey. Did you see the guy from Portugal a mandate

645
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: a redd at Ama and he got bombarded by skitz

646
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: and bits? Luke? But I think he kind of called

647
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 3: it on himself. Do you know you're not aware of this?

648
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm not aware of this? All right?

649
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: All right, another another topic for another day. Let's go

650
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: over to at Jesse Brooks nine six one two two

651
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: part question, who would you guys take in a rematch

652
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: between Vulk and Islam? Let's start there, Luke, do you

653
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: have a who would you favor based on how close

654
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: that first fight was if they rematched at fifty five?

655
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: I know the inclination is to say Vulk, but I

656
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: feel like Makatchev would adjust too. I feel like Makachev

657
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: would adjust to everyone's been like, oh, Vulk would just

658
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: tighten up this and fix that, and he would, that's true.

659
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: I just feel like Islam would He's like, oh, well,

660
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: he couldn't go to those in the fight. That's true,

661
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: but that's just that moment. Now, with the ability to

662
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: reflect and train and come up with new stuff, which

663
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure he has, he I think would be able

664
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: to get around that. In other words, like, I don't

665
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: think the difference between Volk and Islam is in any

666
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: way great. And again I understand the arguments. I don't

667
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: think they're strong, but I understand the arguments were saying

668
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: he won three rounds the first time. It's not to

669
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: say it's realm of possibility BC, but I feel like

670
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: folks are sleeping on this. Folks love sleeping on Islam.

671
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't quite get it. Even after he beat Charles

672
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: Oliver the way he did, you know, it's still we're

673
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 2: still here doing this shit, like okay, all right.

674
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: I guess I would favor Islam. I would also expect

675
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: him to win, but you know, you'd expect to be

676
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 3: a close fight. I mean, I did never thought Vulk

677
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: would come in and wrestle the way he did, you know,

678
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: and stop the takedowns the way he did at times.

679
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: It was incredible. The second part of the question from

680
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: Jesse Brooks is do you guys think Shavkot could beat

681
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: Leon Edwards?

682
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: Right now, Yes, but I don't know how likely that is.

683
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: In other words, I could see a fight where Rachmanov

684
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: is able to play off the clinch and then into

685
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: grappling positions and do well there. But Leon's movement is great,

686
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 2: his takedown defense is great. You know, his strike selection

687
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: is really superb. Obviously, I think he could beat Leon.

688
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't think the gap between them is so

689
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: big that that's impossible. But I would favor Leon to win.

690
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

691
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? It does. I mean, isn't chaff Cutt coming off

692
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: a performance in which he looked a little human? Can

693
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: you rack my brain for me?

694
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? He fought Jeff Neil.

695
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, that's right. It's part of the process. Yeah,

696
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: you know what, Luke, strength versus strength? I mean, I

697
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: guess they're asking if they fought right now, but I

698
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: guess I'm saying, you know what, if they fought year,

699
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: I'd favorite shot cut to win. Is that crazy?

700
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Today, I think it's today. I give it to Edwards.

701
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: In a year, it's much harder to say. Yeah.

702
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: Right now, it's tough to say. Edward's just operating right

703
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: now at a very high level in the middle of that, people.

704
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: Were like, oh, Camarrow slowed down in the second fight, Okay,

705
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: a little, all right, fine, I'm not gonna say that's

706
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: not true. It's true, but get the fuck out of

707
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: here with this. Like, I have been a skeptic of

708
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Leon Edwards. Not that I didn't know he was good.

709
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: I knew he was good, but I didn't think he

710
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: was championship good. And for the most part in the

711
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: first fight he really wasn't. But then, dude, in the

712
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: second fight, like Camorrow didn't fall off a cliff, he

713
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: got a little bit older, somewhat noticeable. That was a

714
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: just a masterful performance by a guy who brought all

715
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: the forces of his game together to really shine. Like

716
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: it just, I mean, of all the times to doubt

717
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: Leon Edwards after the second Kamarrow fight is truly the

718
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: worst time you could pick.

719
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: What about if, I mean, like, because Tomorrow can't wrestle

720
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: the same amount he could, like back in the Woodley days,

721
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: right when he was coming up for the title. He

722
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: can't sure he.

723
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 2: Was just fighting lesser competition trying to move up.

724
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: I mean, but he was wrestling exclusively in those times

725
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: for the most part, in ground and pounding. Then with

726
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: Trevor Whitman, his striking came around, and then it looked

727
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: like for a bit he was leaning too hard on

728
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: the striking. And now at his advanced age, Luke, I'm

729
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: wondering if he actually can pull off a full wrestling

730
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: based attack over twenty five minutes. I mean, who can

731
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: even Habib? Even Habib had to slow down against Iaquinta

732
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: in the last two rounds, right.

733
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 2: Eddie Alvarez once told me, and I think you know

734
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: this is you know, not a hardcore truth, but probably

735
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: a pretty truthful way of looking at it, which is,

736
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: he goes, Luke, you can in a five round fight,

737
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: you can wrestle max three rounds, so you got to

738
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: figure out what you're going to do with the other ten.

739
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's probably a pretty good way

740
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: of looking at it. You know. He didn't mean like

741
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: you were only going to wrestle the first three and

742
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,959
Speaker 2: strike the last two. He just meant you got about

743
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: a good fifteen minutes of hardcore wrestling after that. You

744
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: got to figure it out, you know.

745
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: I like when he says your name before saying that,

746
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: it adds like poignancy to it. Luke, like he respects you,

747
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 3: like Luke.

748
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember he did it on air, and

749
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: it kind of like it's really an interesting way of

750
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: saying it, you know.

751
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go over to at one hundred and fifteenth

752
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: Dream nine. Is that a combination of John Lennon and

753
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan songs put into one title? I don't know.

754
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: Can you please do an RSD with ty To Ivasa?

755
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: That would be the best episode ever? And I'm curious

756
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: what questions would you ask him, Luke?

757
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: Uh, why would you bother with any of that? Like,

758
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: I guess I would ask him a little bit about

759
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: growing up, the particulars of how he grew up, But

760
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: mostly I'm going to be like, how many beers have

761
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: you had in one nine? How many times have you

762
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: shit yourself? You know?

763
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: I want to know about the excess.

764
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know about.

765
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question.

766
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: See how many times like NBC's description, Big John, how

767
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: many times have you just destroyed a commode in Tokyo?

768
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: You know, I'd love to know about bar fights? You know,

769
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: that guy's gotten into a some of them too, right.

770
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: See how many times have somebody broken things? Someone's broken

771
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: shit over his head? And then regretted it. You know,

772
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: he looks like that kind of guy.

773
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: At Landon Bowlin won three six. Who will be champion

774
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: at bantamweight by the start of twenty twenty four?

775
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: Jesus who hell knows? Okay, So let's think of this through.

776
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 2: It's August. If Sterling wins, he's not fighting again this year, right,

777
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: Like the guy is already fighting on an expedited timeline. Now,

778
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they wouldn't introduce an interim title

779
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: just a fuck with him, But in terms of him,

780
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: if he wins, it would be like he's not going

781
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: to fight again, right, There's just no way.

782
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: Well, he's not going to fight at bantam weight again.

783
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: According to his words, if you if win or lose.

784
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: No matter what.

785
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: That's what he said yesterday. I believe. Now if he

786
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: if he loses, does that change things?

787
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: I don't know.

788
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Morob's still there and that seems to be

789
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: the reason. Lucas. Does Sterling have a hard cut, a

790
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: really hard cut up aniwaight or a regular hardcut.

791
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: I think he's got a pretty tough one. I mean

792
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: he makes it because he's you know, he's that good

793
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: or whatever. But yeah, I think it's pretty tough.

794
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: So let's so like it could be win or lose

795
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: the titles, you know, I mean, if O'Malley beat him,

796
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 3: O'Malley's the new champion. But we got what three big

797
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: fights in the title picture coming up. What's your best

798
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 3: guess of who starts the new year with the belt

799
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 3: at Yeah, so I guess we're saying that either O'Malley

800
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: would defend let's say December and that would decide it

801
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 3: if he wins, or there would be a vacant fight

802
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: at the end.

803
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: Of the year. Dude, would O'Malley defend it four months later? Maybe?

804
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: Maybe not?

805
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: Maybe not?

806
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: You're I mean, I just see these here's the thing, Like,

807
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: here's the thing the UFC is doing that I think

808
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: is kind of like like confusing people a little bit

809
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: or like tricking them. I mean, I'm not saying they're

810
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: trying to trick, but like the point I might make

811
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 2: us like we on this show, for example, we'll be like, oh,

812
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: look at all these fights they announced, but like they're

813
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: just spreading that over like a wide like net. It's

814
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: not they're not all concentrated on the same ones. Sometimes

815
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: they are, but a lot of times they're spread out,

816
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: so it's like, uh, I I feel like if if

817
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, four months just seems like a really

818
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: doable turn. We've seen turnarounds much shorter than that one,

819
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: even for championship fights. But if you don't have to,

820
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: why would you you know?

821
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. I think the better question, based on

822
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: the timing issue, in my opinion, would be next summer,

823
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: one year from now, who's the Bandon White champion? That's

824
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: the better question, Luke, because on that point, Sterling's way

825
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: gone win or lose, And I might say Morob Really,

826
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 3: I might say, Morob.

827
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: You're probably in that case. Yeah, I would agree with that.

828
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I mean so Hudos got what Cheeto coming up?

829
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: San Haagan's got? Who Luke got? It could be Umar

830
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: by that point for all we know. Damn Yeah, all.

831
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: Right, those are two very very tough fights, two very

832
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: tough fight. Let's hear very tough guys.

833
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: Let's hear from at screw you underscore the end of

834
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: that name, Luke really.

835
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: Nice with a lot of yeah, a lot.

836
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty good. Another fantasy matchup question about boxing

837
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 3: for BC. Yes, if there was a super series created

838
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: with each fighter meeting another one with the likes of

839
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: Bernard Hopkins, Triple G, Marvin Hagler, Ray Leonard Canello, Sergio Martinez,

840
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: Thomas Hearns, and Kelly Pavlick. Who would go on to

841
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: win it? Now, I guess we're saying if these were

842
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: all the middleweight versions of themselves, and furthermore, would anyone

843
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: out of the eight go undefeated in these matchups? So, Luke,

844
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: let's say we have a mythical middleweight tournament. Be hop Glovekin, Hagler,

845
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: Leonard Canello, Sergio Martinez, Thomas the Hitman, Hearns, Kelly Pavlick.

846
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean this is basically question.

847
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Kel, what is Kelly Pavlick doing in there?

848
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Let's be honest.

849
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: I love Kelly pav That Jermaine Taylor the first flight

850
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: was amazing. Listen.

851
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he wasn't a good boxer, but I mean,

852
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Haggler and Canelo, Pavling. You know, it

853
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 2: was a separate conversation.

854
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: All right, who's the favorite. It's Hagler, right, he did

855
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: lose Thatgler is my guy. He did lose that middleweight

856
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: to Ray Leonard, who is also in this conversation. Very controversial,

857
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 3: very controversial. Could Ray Leonard do that twice or three times?

858
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: I don't know. Hagler's the best middleweight of all time

859
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: in my estimation. I do think Triple G came close

860
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 3: for a while there, Luke. You know he he tied

861
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: the record for middleweight defenses with twenty. I mean to

862
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: Triple G's an peak. Triple G is a problem for

863
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: every person that ever walked on this planet.

864
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: Big drama show.

865
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 3: But Hagler can switch stances. He can box as well

866
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: as he can fight, and he has a chin and

867
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 3: a backbone and a will like few in history. I'm

868
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: thinking Hagler comes out of this tournament. I don't know

869
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: if anyone goes unbeaten. Now, I guess he's saying this

870
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 3: would be a double elimination super Okay, So remember the

871
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 3: Showtime Super six super middleweight tournament, Luke that andre Ward won.

872
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: You were allowed losses in that. That was a round

873
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: robin tournament, and then I guess the guys with the

874
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: best records fought each other in the finals, if I'm

875
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: correctly recalling. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe there was a semi

876
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: finals in there. Under this scenario, I like Hagler to

877
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: win this tournament, but does he go undefeated? In your eyes?

878
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 3: On any given day, could Hopkins triple g Canelo? You

879
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: know Tommy Hearns was a great.

880
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: Middleweighted well, I mean, listen the story in my mind

881
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: of the Leonard fight. I know a lot of people

882
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: score for Leonard. It's fine. I don't score for Hagler,

883
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: and so in a world where that has already happened,

884
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: of course he could lose. I mean he I think

885
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: he is. I think he wins that, but he doesn't

886
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: like dominate everyone. You know, those are competitive, close fights

887
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: in a few different directions. So no, I don't think

888
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: you can say that.

889
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: What about the Canelo from twenty nineteen. Now, granted that

890
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: was at one six ' eight, but that guy who

891
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: was so efficient walking down and destroying Billy Joe Saunders

892
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: and Caleb Plant and Callum Smith, what was that guy

893
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: do against Tagler? Is he in the fight? Luke?

894
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: I mean that's a I think he gets I think

895
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: he gets outworked. I think he gets outworked.

896
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean hell, I mean Hagler's chin is insane.

897
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: It is just insane.

898
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: Love Vanila does that shit? Canilo goes and fights and

899
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: flurries and then takes a little bit of time and

900
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: then goes and you know, throws a cup combo and

901
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: takes some time. I think Hagler will be just on you.

902
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it just takes some time. Is that Jimmy World, Luke?

903
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy Eat World? Boy? That was a nineties high school

904
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,919
Speaker 2: radio fucking jam all the time?

905
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet you. Jimmy eight asked too, Luke. I mean,

906
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 3: let's just keep that trend going. All right, there you go.

907
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: Let's go over to at Ski Sonic when I ran

908
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: track the boxers, in which I won my first race

909
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: against henceforth became my quote lucky drawers. Oh he's talking

910
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: about Oh sorry, Luke, he's some of the underwear, not

911
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: the physical boxer.

912
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't need to know this. You can actually

913
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: stop this question here.

914
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: Uh have you ever owned a so called lucky garment

915
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 3: or trinket? How did it become imbued with such power?

916
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: I didn't win any races after that for the record,

917
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: and ruining track in running track in boxers sucks. Yeah.

918
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: First of all, don't run track in boxer shorts. Luke,

919
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: have you ever had a piece of clothing that you

920
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: referred to as your lucky blank or that you felt

921
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: gave you superpower or luck.

922
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: Do I look like a man who is just swimming

923
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: in a nocean of luck? Based on what you know

924
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: about me, would you say that luck has been a companion?

925
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, of course in some ways it has.

926
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: But no, I don't. I don't have like these are

927
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: no hard work face, those are the backbones of success. Okay.

928
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 3: Once again, Luke, just like the MK curse, people aren't

929
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: being like fully literal like it's more of a mental thing.

930
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: You have something that happened.

931
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: To a mental crutch. Yes, I don't need that or

932
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: organized religion. I'm good to go for.

933
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: No.

934
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: Wow, Well you'll find out what you need at the

935
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: end of the life, Luke, hopefully will be there to

936
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: pull you out of the ditch. We'll tell you I

937
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: had from nineteen ninety eight to about two thousand, I

938
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 3: had a Lucky orange sweater. It was just a regular

939
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 3: will sweater, Luke, but I overachieved in college hookups with

940
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 3: that sweater. And I mean one time at Seaton Hall

941
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 3: there was a Jennifer Love Hewett dead ringer, Luke, And

942
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: you know, remember we talked about fumbling on the goal line.

943
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: You know, I was in position to win, Luke, and

944
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: of course I you know, botched it horrendously. But that

945
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: lucky orange sweater. I even wore it to New York

946
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: City in two thousand and one when I tried out

947
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 3: for the ESPN Sports trivia game show Two Minute Drill,

948
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: of which I appeared on and and won the tryout

949
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 3: Luke wearing the Lucky Orange sweater. Now, I tried to

950
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: wear the Lucky Orange sweater to my actual episode that

951
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: was filmed, but at the last minute, they're like, no,

952
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: you can't wear that bright orange thing. And they went

953
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: out and got me like a suit jacket and a

954
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: shirt to put on.

955
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: But and you lost like a bitch.

956
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: Well that's a story for another day. If I can

957
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: get a working VCR, I can produce the video of

958
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: me on ESPN's Two Minute Drill, Luke.

959
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: We could do. Really, I would fucking love Actually, it

960
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 2: was pretty cool. I would love to see that.

961
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was like a one on

962
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: one trivia show. You remember that show with Kenny Maine

963
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 3: as the host.

964
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: I remember the name, and I remember all these kinds

965
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: of shows, but I couldn't tell you I remember. The

966
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: only one I really remember was Stumped the Schwab.

967
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah that was. This was after that.

968
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: This was This is kind of for folks who don't

969
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: know what Stumped the Schwab is Schwab was this big

970
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: fat loser nerd it was who was kind of like

971
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: chat GPT you got.

972
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 3: Head researcher at es. Yeah, yeah he was.

973
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: He was probably a nice guy. I'm being a dick,

974
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: you know, all right?

975
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: Uh oh, I missed Mikey. Mikey wanted to know if

976
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 3: if Morob versus Shudo would become the new title fight

977
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: if Al Joe vacates, what's the girl's gotta beat Cheeto Cheeto?

978
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: Right? I mean yeah he beats Cheeto.

979
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there you go.

980
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: Luke.

981
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: That lucky you and Sweater. By the way, many hook

982
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 3: ups in that thing, many hook ups in it, Luke,

983
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: Is that why.

984
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: You do like practicing with autoerotic asphyxiation in the back

985
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: of a seven eleven parking lot? Is that?

986
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: Is that why I have an orange car and an

987
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: orange wallet today?

988
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: Luke? Yes, I wore.

989
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: Orange flip flops to drop off my son this morning. Luke,

990
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's the luck continues let's go over

991
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 3: to at El Dorito four zero one four. Do you

992
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: think McGregor's next fight does less than one million pay

993
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: per view buys? He's been out of the game for

994
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: a long time, with lots of controversy, Twitter rambles and

995
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 3: no one being interested in tough It seems like fans

996
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: and casuals are a bit sick of Conter. With the

997
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: rise of illegal streaming. I can only see him doing

998
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand ish. That is a good question in

999
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: the current landscape. Let's remember Tank versus Ryan Garcia just

1000
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: did what one point two million? It was a big win,

1001
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 3: a big win, and that fight seven years ago probably

1002
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: would have done you know, a million and a half

1003
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: a million, six or seven? What does Connor versus Chandler

1004
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: do on pay per view in February, Luke, tell me,

1005
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: tell me the truth there.

1006
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: I don't think it's in any way Again, I'll say this,

1007
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent not a given that it does

1008
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: a million like, no chance. I don't think he is.

1009
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: It's like the public awareness of him has not gone

1010
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: down bc so in that sense, his fame hasn't waned,

1011
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 2: but the appetite for it, while still clearly very high.

1012
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, the people were enamored with Connor,

1013
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: you know, with the sort of feverish kind of thing

1014
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: for a while. We're past that a little bit, so,

1015
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: I mean, look, don't be can't get me wrong. He's

1016
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: still a huge star. It would do big numbers, of course,

1017
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: it's also opponent dependence. You're asking about Chandler. What do

1018
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: you say, BC, I would say between five and seven

1019
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 2: fifty something like that.

1020
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, now he has fought in the streaming era for sure, Luke,

1021
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 3: that cowboy comeback. I'm looking at Wikipedia right now, which

1022
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty did one point three five estimated

1023
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 3: paper million estimated papers.

1024
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was what fresh back from. I mean,

1025
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: that was the first fight back from.

1026
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just trying to set the stage here. The

1027
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: second Parier fight from twenty twenty one in January, reportedly

1028
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: based on estimations, did a million and a half and

1029
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: according to Wikipedia, Luke, I don't know if this is true.

1030
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: They're saying that I don't know where these numbers, who's

1031
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 2: sourcing these numbers?

1032
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 3: Let me click on the thing here. Uh yeah, this

1033
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: was MMA Junkie was an estimation on the one point

1034
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 3: five for McGregor Poortier two McGregor Poorier three July of

1035
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 3: twenty one. There according to this, it's saying one point

1036
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 3: eight million. No, fuck, that's MMA, and they're referencing an

1037
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: MMA junkie story on uh, send.

1038
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: Me that story. I don't believe that there's no chance

1039
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: it did that.

1040
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll send it to you in our free time.

1041
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 3: But look, Connor has fought in the streaming era though

1042
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 3: right he already has, yes, But the question, I think

1043
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: the spirit of this question really is how much has

1044
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: the losing mixed with the bad headlines mixed with this

1045
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 3: current state now where it's like, is he just strung

1046
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: out on drugs and not trying? Is he on roids

1047
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 3: and that's why he's not coming back? Like what the

1048
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: hell is going on? That has to contribute to a

1049
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: decline of some degree. But eight to nine hundred, if

1050
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 3: it's promoted right, still feels right. But will it be

1051
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: will it be promoted right again?

1052
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: Connor's not so Connor's not so washed. You couldn't do

1053
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: big numbers. That's not what I'm saying at all. But like,

1054
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, the flame on this fight it's not extinguished.

1055
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: But it is. I mean, it is flickering, right, it's flickering.

1056
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't do press towards anymore, Luke. Right,

1057
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: they don't do like the kind of things they used to.

1058
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: They don't need to pay per view is still important,

1059
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 2: but it's not what it once was. They just don't

1060
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 2: need to. This is what I mean. It's like, dude,

1061
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: no one's kicking them in the ass to make them

1062
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: do extra shit. And so it's like I'm getting slap

1063
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: fucking emails from the PR people. It's like, this is

1064
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: what you're spending your time doing.

1065
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yeah, yeah, we got two more questions here, Luke.

1066
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: This good time, right, good time, great oldies.

1067
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: Chicken Ea bang bang.

1068
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 3: This is from at Johnny one three eight.

1069
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: What's your number one search query on on pornography sites?

1070
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: What's your number one search query?

1071
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: Sorry, Johnny one thirty eight, one thirty eight. As a question, Hey, donks,

1072
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 3: in the spirit of holiday and celebration of the greatest

1073
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: country on Earth, would love for each of you to

1074
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: create a concert of four to five bands or solo acts,

1075
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 3: living or dead, to create the greatest concert of all time.

1076
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: Can only imagine the Garbo the garbage BC will be picking.

1077
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: Mine would include, according to Johnny here, Elvis as the headliner,

1078
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 3: Robert Johnson and Beethoven below him. Thanks for all the context.

1079
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 2: Fuck wants to go to that.

1080
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: And Luke rip A mean vapeit for your day one,

1081
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: donks Johnny from Tampa lucal vape when he wants to

1082
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: first of.

1083
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: All, yeah, I don't have my vape my marijuana vape on.

1084
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: And there are a super concert going around right now

1085
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 3: with like gn R, Metallica and all these other people

1086
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: on the same card. Did I make that up to

1087
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 3: see that on social media?

1088
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 2: GNR used to tour with Metallica. No, I think it's uh

1089
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: it's Metallica and somebody else. But Metallica is doing some

1090
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: stuff with Pantera. I know when I'm seeing Pantera in September,

1091
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: it's just their headlining, so it's not that.

1092
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: But I mean the living or dead part I hate

1093
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: because then you're like, okay, the Beatles, led Zeppelin, Miles David, like,

1094
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 3: you know, you can go crazy with it.

1095
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like you can't ask a question like that,

1096
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: like who is this for? Like you know, the biggest audience,

1097
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: but like you just you can't just assemble random shit

1098
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: like that. There has to be let me ask you.

1099
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: Even though we lived through what was the big one

1100
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: feed the world in the eighties like Live Aid remember

1101
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Live Aid? Yeah, even then, the even then, the that

1102
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: was the unifying force. There was a message behind it,

1103
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: there was something there. You need something to kind of

1104
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: anchor at all, otherwise it's just disperate acts. It doesn't matter.

1105
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: Right, how about the anchor is a festival And what

1106
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean by that is, you know, fifteen fifteen years ago,

1107
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: Luke I attended Bonneru and Austin City Limits Festival and

1108
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: they're awesome, right, and you either camp there or you

1109
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 3: get a hotel and all that, and you you can't

1110
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: wait to see the lineup, right, And usually, like you know,

1111
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 3: are the of the of the top five or six bands?

1112
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: You know, is there at least three or four that

1113
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: would put you there. Let's say they create some new

1114
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 3: Coachella tomorrow and they say, Luke Thomas, for your own

1115
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 3: musical taste, give me four acts to headline it. What

1116
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 3: would be the thing that would would get you out

1117
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: of your seat standing front row in a crowd of

1118
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 3: ninety thousand people in front of the stage. What four

1119
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 3: bands right now that are living that could do this. Okay,

1120
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about a Beatles reunion. I'm talking about

1121
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 3: right now, who.

1122
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: It, Mighty Mighty boss Tones.

1123
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like Jedi, My Tricks, Vinnie Pezuh and Cannibal Corpse.

1124
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: There you go, right, dude, I don't think of music

1125
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: in these ways. I don't. I know that you're like,

1126
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how to explain it to you. Like

1127
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: I don't have a relationship with my music I enjoy

1128
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: in any kind of public way. It's strictly a personal

1129
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 2: like you know how, Like part of the Protestant reference,

1130
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: if it came from the Protestant Reformation, but part of

1131
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: religious reformation in this country was that initially it was

1132
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: believed that only clergy could be your guiding force to God,

1133
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: and then eventually you could have It was clear to

1134
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: them that you could have a personal relationship and you

1135
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: did not need the intermediary, although it served other functions.

1136
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 2: It's sort of like that with me, Like when I

1137
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: think about like the task of who would you put

1138
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: up for nine one thousand other people? And like I

1139
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: don't think about nine other people, much less ninety. That's

1140
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: not the way in which I interpret this. This is

1141
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: like what it does to me for me in my

1142
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: life in a very personal way. Like so when people

1143
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: are like, oh I don't like that or that's not

1144
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: for me, I can't really judge that. I mean, if

1145
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 2: I get that, that's I'm not intending it for a

1146
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: broader audience in any way at all.

1147
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: So, Luke, no one's asking for this type of breakdown

1148
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: from you. They just want to know what for bands

1149
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 3: could headline of festival that would get you the most

1150
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: excited right now? I mean, what the hell's wrong with you?

1151
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 2: I don't need It's hard to answer this question. It's

1152
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: like a weird way.

1153
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: To post, like like what I like, it's not what

1154
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: other people like.

1155
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, you're like, which bands would you need to make

1156
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 2: you lomo seltato in your kitchen while someone else makes

1157
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: you a coffee. It's like I don't need them for that.

1158
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: That doesn't solve me any kind of problem.

1159
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 3: And the show, I guess if this is the direction.

1160
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: Hod On, I don't mean to stock here. I am

1161
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: stone one of the question like, okay, certainly you could

1162
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: do Metallica. I think that's a big festival band at

1163
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: this point right the headlining one.

1164
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 3: It's for you. This is for you, the fan that

1165
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: would get you the most excited. We're not we don't

1166
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: care about anybouts. It's your festival. It's the Luke Thomas Coachella,

1167
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 3: Bona Roue, Woodstock. Okay, it's ultimat and guess what you're

1168
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: the ones.

1169
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 2: Want to be clear, Nothing I'm going to say is

1170
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 2: going to draw ninety thousand people. I just want to

1171
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: point that out. Okay, In that event.

1172
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 3: To the question, it's not the spirit of the question,

1173
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 3: you weirdot. Pick the four bands you'd be so excited

1174
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: to see at a festival at once? What's wrong with you?

1175
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: Pantera obviously that's a given panteraky.

1176
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: But they're not alive for the most part.

1177
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, the other touring, I mean two of them

1178
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 2: are you know it's the fifty to fifty prop you know. Yeah,

1179
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 2: one of them happened to get murdered on stage. You

1180
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: know it is what if.

1181
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 3: Matt Brown just fills in for Dimebag.

1182
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: Right, I go to that shit? Yeah, I go to

1183
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: that all right. So there's that one. That's a good

1184
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 2: So it's your easy win, that's your big time win.

1185
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: Beyond that, Fuck me, dude, I really don't know. I

1186
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know.

1187
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe, dude, yeah you could do that.

1188
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: They they headline certain festivals, but like, dude, that is

1189
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: a rough show. Man, that's a rough show. That's a

1190
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: tough fucking outing. That's that's like it's hardcore sparring. You know.

1191
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think like in my like, yeah, dude,

1192
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how to I really

1193
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: don't know how to answer that question. I don't have

1194
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 2: I don't have that kind of relationship with the music.

1195
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't really like music. That's why

1196
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm a big metal fan.

1197
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 2: That's why is that it I'm a big metal fan

1198
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: because I don't actually like music.

1199
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 3: Mikey is saying nineteen ninety seven lip Biscuit. So the

1200
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: venue just burns down around you. Maybe you're in.

1201
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 2: Oh. You know who I saw that was fucking great

1202
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 2: was Rage Rage against the Machine. They killed it and

1203
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: I saw them at the two thousand hf festival, So

1204
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 2: you can add them to the list. You know who

1205
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: else was Great System of a Down. They're not my

1206
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 2: favorite band by intrenchedy amount. Here here are just some

1207
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: bands I've seen that put on really good shows. How

1208
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: about that system of a down for another night. We

1209
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: can fly the Armenian.

1210
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 3: Flag Armenian time.

1211
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And then last but not least, it would

1212
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: not be the Wu Tang clan because I saw them

1213
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: with rage and they were harrendous. You know what BC

1214
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: black look? Is that?

1215
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 3: What's going on here?

1216
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: No, dude, there was fifty thousand of them on stage

1217
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: talking over each other. They were all drunk and high.

1218
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: It was awful. Guns n' roses I saw. I'm not

1219
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: even a GNR guy. Dude. I've seen them now three

1220
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: times because of my wife. Dude, that show is just

1221
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: one of the best shows I've ever seen, just pound

1222
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: for pound amazing.

1223
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 3: There you go, Yeah, there you go. Thank you very

1224
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 3: much for fielding that question. We've got one more for

1225
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 3: you here. Thank you, Johnny from Tampa. Hopefully you're Elvis

1226
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 3: and Robert Johnson and Beethoven concert works out great in

1227
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: your mind. Let's go do Mike Wu Mitioria h. When

1228
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 3: was the last time either of you got into some

1229
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 3: sort of physical altercation with another person? What caused it

1230
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: and how did it end?

1231
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 2: Fast? I got so we're not talking anything in the

1232
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: gym right like that's completely out right.

1233
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about like a school yard fight, a

1234
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: street fight, a bar fight, Like when was the last.

1235
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: Time the last time? God, I can't even really really

1236
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: Jesus through my twenties were filled with them. The last

1237
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: time I was in a physical altercation? What does shouting

1238
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 2: match count?

1239
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: Not?

1240
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: Really? Right? Like people getting each other's face like that?

1241
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, when was the last time you were close

1242
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 3: to one? Then what do you got with?

1243
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 2: Another?

1244
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: Day?

1245
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 2: After my wife gave birth, I had I had not

1246
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: a road rage incident, but I had a face to

1247
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 2: face with a guy because he wanted trying try He

1248
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: tried to cut me off by running a red Did

1249
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: you threaten to go Third World on him? I did

1250
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: not threaten to go third world? Although that is though,

1251
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the zing of all zings. I think

1252
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: it was one of my buddy had was between tours

1253
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: and was visiting me, and he got into a fight

1254
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: in a popular neighborhood called Adams Morgan and beat the

1255
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: living fuck out of a guy. And I had to

1256
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: pull him off and grab another friend who was fighting

1257
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: someone else, and uh, we had to race out of

1258
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: there before the cops got there. So that was a

1259
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: bad one. That was one of those ones where I

1260
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: was like, we I can't keep living my life this way,

1261
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: you know I can't. There might have been another one

1262
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: past that.

1263
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 3: Well, look as an adult now, it's just not worth

1264
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 3: it unless somebody's putting hands on your family, right. I mean,

1265
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: you know, you don't want to get stabbed over an

1266
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: argument or a road rage incident or a whatever, right.

1267
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 2: Hands, you know, someone a couple of hands with my brother.

1268
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, am I really gonna.

1269
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: You're like, You're like, somebody could not pay rend my

1270
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: dad's rental property in Las Vegas, But I'm not getting

1271
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 3: down there and figuring it out for him. Yeah, I

1272
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: get you, Luke. I'm a lover. I'm not a fighter.

1273
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: I don't I don't get into fistfights, Luke. I'm gonna

1274
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 3: have thrown a drunken punch or two. Not connecting didn't

1275
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: go anywhere. I've certainly been punched at certain times in

1276
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: my life when I've served it. But uh, yeah, I

1277
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 3: don't have great stories for you, Luke. I don't have

1278
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 3: the bar braalls that you were a part of in

1279
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 3: your life, you know, to college.

1280
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read this. I'm not going to

1281
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: read this, but there is a request from Mikey to

1282
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 2: tell a particular story. Would you tell that particular story?

1283
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: Oh, pick up basketball?

1284
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: He wants to know.

1285
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 3: So, I've gotten people close to throwing punches at me

1286
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: in pickup basketball, and I was prepared for the reality

1287
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: of it, but you know, it didn't escalate further. I mean, look,

1288
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: that's how I compete. I'm not afraid to get people

1289
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: to the point of losing their shit. If I feel

1290
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: them losing their shit will give me some type of

1291
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: advantage that I don't have because I can't jump, and

1292
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 3: I'm not quick, and I really can't shoot, and I'm

1293
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 3: really not all that skilled, Luke. But I'm a smart pastor,

1294
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 3: I'm a great pick setter, I can rebound the shit

1295
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: out of things. And you know, at the end of

1296
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 3: the day, Luke, I've played a lot of basketball against

1297
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: people that are better than me, and sometimes, being as

1298
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: Mikey just said, being a mental warrior is my one up.

1299
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: I mean, to me, I've always believed what happens in

1300
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: between the lines on a court, whether it's your best

1301
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 3: friends or people you've never met, it stays there, dude,

1302
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: right stays there.

1303
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: It should, but it never does. There's so many fights

1304
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: on the fucking YMCA basketball courts of old guys tearing

1305
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: her acls and trying to fist fight. It's the saddest

1306
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: shit on earth.

1307
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 3: The last time I was close or at least prepared

1308
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 3: for one, was probably about ten years ago. I was

1309
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 3: moving out of an apartment and my kids were really small,

1310
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 3: and I was I had to break the least to

1311
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: get out because it wasn't a good situation. We need

1312
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: to go somewhere different, and the neighbors were crazy. It

1313
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: was whatever, but the neighbors, luke, were related to the landlord.

1314
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 3: So when the landlord came to like inspect it, he

1315
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 3: started accusing me of breaking things that I didn't to

1316
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 3: try to like add money on the situation, and then

1317
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 3: he started to act tough. So the dude's like fifty five,

1318
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: but he was big and jacked, and he like he

1319
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: owned like a factory, and he was like this he

1320
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: was from another country. Look, I mean, he was this

1321
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 3: Polish dude who was ready to go if necessary. And

1322
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: we got into an argument over the money and over

1323
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 3: the accusations, which were untrue of things he said I broke,

1324
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: and he started to mouth off about my wife randomly,

1325
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: and I stepped forward and got into his face and said,

1326
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 3: this will be the last time you'll mention my wife's name.

1327
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 3: And Luke, I bawled up the fist with the right hand.

1328
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 3: Now he was older than me, but he was a

1329
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: lot bigger and stronger than me, and I was just thinking,

1330
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: if he throws the right hand, I'm gonna slip it,

1331
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: hit him once and then see what happens next. Luke,

1332
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 3: what do you think what happened?

1333
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 2: You would have broken your wrist thrown that horrendous punch

1334
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: you had.

1335
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: I think so this was like, this was like twenty ten,

1336
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 3: so that's like that's a lot younger. That's like thirty

1337
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 3: two year old. BC. Okay, look, I bet you, I

1338
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: bet you. You know I figured out quickly he was

1339
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: right handed. I bet you I could have slipped that

1340
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: with ease and counted him quick and then I was

1341
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: ready to go to the ground if I had to.

1342
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 3: But that was by the last time I got in

1343
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: somebody's face and said to myself, this could this could

1344
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: go south, but I'm ready for it. Luke, Okay, that's yeah.

1345
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: I haven't had one of those in a long time.

1346
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: I haven't had one of those in a long time.

1347
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 3: I was fighting for my family's honor, Luke, all right.

1348
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: Also because you know, you like it. You're destined for

1349
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: jail one way or the other, aren't you.

1350
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: No, nor, I try to do right by people for

1351
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 3: the most part.

1352
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 2: Except jail is terrifying, is it not. It's terrifying. Yeah,

1353
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: prospect of spending your life there, It's like, wow, I

1354
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: really don't want to do that. That's that seems awful.

1355
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: I mean, the prospect of spending one night there, Luke,

1356
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 3: has been usually enough for me to not enter into

1357
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 3: those territories. Although you know, we've all done some dumb

1358
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: shit that we probably should have gotten caught for, and

1359
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 3: you know, and and have our lives ruined. I mean,

1360
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 3: look when you look back for all like your dumbest shit,

1361
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 3: you're so lucky you didn't get handled and then like

1362
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 3: it was put in the local newspaper and then and

1363
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 3: you're just you're just scarlet letter the rest of your life.

1364
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Oh yeah. There was one time I was

1365
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: using marijuana in a park at night because this was

1366
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: this was a long time ago, and I think I

1367
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 2: had been on the Marine Corps maybe like a year

1368
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: or two or something like that, and and cops rolled

1369
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: upon me and they didn't arrest me, but they detained me,

1370
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: and they were like, what are you doing in here?

1371
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: I was like smoking weed? They're like, okay, can you

1372
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: go smoke weed in a different park? And I was

1373
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: like why. They're like, so we're an anti gang unit

1374
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: and this is where the gangs hang out and we're

1375
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 2: waiting to catch one of them. And I was like, yeah,

1376
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go now. They're like what the fuck?

1377
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: They actually asked me, like what the fuck are you doing?

1378
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, that's a good point. I'm

1379
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: probably not gonna make this mistake anymore.

1380
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: I was at a I was at a fish no.

1381
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: I was at a fish concert in like Vermont or something.

1382
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 3: Where was I and a guy next to me was

1383
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: smoking hash luke, which I guess by the technical definition,

1384
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: you can get charged with like heroin possession if you

1385
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 3: get caught with that right by the bab.

1386
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how that works, but it is different

1387
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 2: than we It is different.

1388
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 3: And and he threw it under the car as they

1389
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: approached and searched us, and uh, I felt like that

1390
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: was a bullet dodging right there.

1391
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:12,479
Speaker 2: That was a big moment.

1392
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 3: I was a big bullet dodging.

1393
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 2: Right dude. I picked up my friend after he got

1394
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 2: a d uy. I had to bail him out of jail,

1395
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 2: and I picked him up, and then when he got

1396
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: in the car, he was all sad and quiet, and

1397
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: I was like, do you uh, do you need a

1398
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: ride to the liquor store?

1399
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: Now?

1400
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: Got you, bitch? Yeah?

1401
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's that's Georgia for you, Luke.

1402
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: Virginia.

1403
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Virginia is for lovers, Luke, And that's

1404
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 3: what I am.

1405
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: Thank you. That's like like the clips said, like the

1406
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 2: clip said, Virginia is for lovers, but trust his hate

1407
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: here for out of towners. How about that?

1408
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Luke, you're one of my You're

1409
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: not even from Virginia, You're from India. I'm sorry, Luke.

1410
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: That went nowhere? That one nowhere?

1411
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you brought your material. You had all of

1412
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: the you had all of the enthusiasm of a nineteen

1413
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: year old task with accompanying his father on a Titanic

1414
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: submarine expedition.

1415
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 3: You know, hey, Dad, can we stop at Burger King

1416
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: on the way home please. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean people.

1417
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 2: The food in London and Tokyo is inedible. We got

1418
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: to go to Burger Kang.

1419
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, the looke. You know, people perished in

1420
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: that sort, did Dale Junior on turn four? So maybe

1421
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: we can maybe we can show some respect all these

1422
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 3: years later, sor.

1423
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: Right, he died painless deaths. Maybe we all be so

1424
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: lucky in that in that sense anyway.

1425
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope to die in my sleep like a

1426
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: like a real man does, Luke. That's the best way

1427
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 3: you can do it.

1428
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: Dude. You're gonna die on like a fucking backyard barbecue.

1429
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: Someone's gonna run over you with a four whee leter

1430
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: some shit.

1431
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 3: I always felt I was destined for an Elvis exit, Luke,

1432
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 3: on the throne, Just fall over on the throne.

1433
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: Fan, Dude, You're is gonna be so much worse. You're

1434
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: gonna fall off of your roof and like impale yourself

1435
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 2: on some kind of garden gnome in the front yard.

1436
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 3: You know this may not surprise you, Luke, but I've

1437
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: fallen off of a ladder three times since I've owned

1438
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,959
Speaker 3: this house. And I've owned this house for six years.

1439
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: And the guy that lived here before me, left behind

1440
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: a really monstrously big ladder. But the base of it,

1441
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 3: the hit that you foot on the ground was like

1442
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 3: broken and off angles, and you know, I would still

1443
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 3: like an idiot go out there and clean the gutters

1444
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 3: with the thing like you know, swaying and barely. And

1445
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 3: look I've taken some like twenty foot falls off of that.

1446
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 3: That's not it, you know, that's not it. I'm not

1447
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 3: proud of that.

1448
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's less than ideal. We should go now though,

1449
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: all right, I don't want to do this anymore.

1450
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 3: Thank you Mike more Mile for being our spirit guide

1451
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 3: on this, Thomas your boy BC America guys, right, we're

1452
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 3: almost two hundred years old, right or three hundred? Where

1453
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: are we at? How old is America? Luke?

1454
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: Yes? Almost two hundred BC? That's exactly right, that's where

1455
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 2: I think.

1456
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, all right, thank you. Would you have any

1457
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: thing to say to all of our international guests who

1458
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: are like, what is this July fourth? Bullshit?

1459
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's your cue, that's your QBC. Can we can

1460
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 2: we end it now?

1461
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 3: Is that? Am I on fire? All right?

1462
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: Luke?

1463
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: We gotta go. I gotta figure out why this house

1464
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 3: is on fire.

1465
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: Talk to you, Bye,