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Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Your hosts Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Welcome everybody into another edition of Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: always joined by the great Brian Rob Mickey inside the

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Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studio, and we are going to get down

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Speaker 1: to it. We're gonna get a little bigger picture look

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Speaker 1: at what's going on here in the NFL, what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the Dallas Cowboys, and more importantly, what's going

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Speaker 1: to go down this week against the Packers. So how

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Speaker 1: are you guys doing today? Doing good? Doing great? Maybe

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Speaker 1: I go back and watch them play this game last

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Speaker 1: year in the playoffs. I saw you were watching him.

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Speaker 1: I haven't yet. I haven't. I forgot some of the

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Speaker 1: bad things that happened to this football team in that

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Speaker 1: in that game. I forgot about the three. I forgot

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Speaker 1: about the Micah Hyde interception. They threw it. They were

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Speaker 1: trying to throw a screen to the left. They're down

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. They're on about the I think

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Speaker 1: the eighteen yard line of green BA. I mean they

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Speaker 1: have knocking on the door or to get points, right,

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Speaker 1: and they throw, they throw, I throw a screen to

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, and remember Dez Bryant is the front, is

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Speaker 1: the blocker, and Micah Hyde just jumps and intercepts and

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Speaker 1: they get the ball like on the you know, they

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Speaker 1: run it out to like the thirty yard line. Just

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Speaker 1: completely jumped the route, just completely jumped the route. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's one trying. Okay, well, how about just how about

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Speaker 1: just the slow start this team? How about the okay,

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Speaker 1: nineteen dropped a ball in the end zone, right, Bryce

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Speaker 1: Butler dropped a ball in the far corner of the

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Speaker 1: end zone, right. That was another one. I think the

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Speaker 1: penalty that you got called for too many men on

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Speaker 1: the field or what was it? I remember huddle, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was just I was just I think

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Speaker 1: that it was just funnel the huddle one. Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: I remember, it's got a name now, it's the Bryce

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Speaker 1: Butler they had they had completed a pass down to

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Speaker 1: like the t oh. It was a huge game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Terence Williams. Terence Williams right, by the way, he played

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Speaker 1: really well in this game. Yeah, Terrence Williams did. And

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Speaker 1: so they invented him. They invented a call that now

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Speaker 1: the NFL says, well you should warn him for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Butler rule. Yeah, and that was a scoring opportunity. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he missed done. Oh they it was. I just I

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Speaker 1: forgot about the Micah High I remember that one. I

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Speaker 1: forgot the interception. Wait till you see you're gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: oh man, they're driving. They got something going here, here

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Speaker 1: we go here. Oh god, they just intercepted it. So

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Speaker 1: what was the like the halftime score because they were behind.

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Speaker 1: They dug a huge hole early. They were down twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I know it was twenty eight thirteen and then they

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Speaker 1: got it to tweet tweet to us. Yeah, then it's

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Speaker 1: twenty eight thirteen three or something, right. Yeah, No, no,

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Speaker 1: that Rogers Rogers drew him off sides again, Taylor, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry about this. You get the show. He's fired up,

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Speaker 1: he's fired up, but I'm watching, just watching the game.

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Speaker 1: I forgot got out all the crazy things that were happening.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. I'll tell you what. Prescott was

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Speaker 1: good in the game. Throwing the football. I mean he

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Speaker 1: really was going the mobilian stuff like that was he

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Speaker 1: was really accurate. In that game, he was really what

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Speaker 1: was it kent twenty one three in the second quarter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they drew him off side. First possession of the game,

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Speaker 1: he draws, he gets twelve minut on that. It's a

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Speaker 1: third and five and he gets him to get a

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Speaker 1: twelve minut on the field Penley and takes a shot

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Speaker 1: and it's incomplete, so he gets a first down and

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Speaker 1: then they go on and score. They threw Remember they

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Speaker 1: got Sean Lee on the tight end under down the

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Speaker 1: field and it was yeah, that was okay, Well you

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Speaker 1: know what, I know, I know we'll get into it. No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: That sets the tone of this week because there's always

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Speaker 1: kind of craziness that happens against the Packers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the Cowboys' third straight years seeing them in

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Speaker 1: the regular season, obviously with different division things laying out right,

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Speaker 1: there will be a lot of contentious feelings throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: It's always the Dez Bryant game. It seems like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we ever will. Nah, it's just

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Speaker 1: get some good work this week and possibly be back

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Speaker 1: for this game, which is always good. A Woozier has

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Speaker 1: never seen the Packers in person in a rookie, so

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Speaker 1: maybe he's in for it. All hands on deck against

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. All hands on deck. You liking Hitchens playing

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Speaker 1: this week? Don't do that, Mickey face. I don't need

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Speaker 1: to see that. I mean, that's the dead set. When

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Speaker 1: did he get hurt? It's been it's been training camp.

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Speaker 1: It was it was the Cults game, right, cultur Raiders, Culturrators.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's irrelevant. So how many practices has he had? Fully? No?

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Speaker 1: But none. I think he gets him this week though.

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Speaker 1: If he gets in a full practice Wednesday, okay, it's

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Speaker 1: possible full practice Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Mickey, come on, one

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Speaker 1: in pads, one in pads. I think that's what they

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Speaker 1: were missing last week. This team though, has a history though,

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Speaker 1: because he didn't get the padded practice. See, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of the same answer I would have given you for

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Speaker 1: David Irving. Yeah, he hadn't had a padded practice since

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Speaker 1: the week of the the Raiders. Yeah, the last last

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Speaker 1: preseason game, right, and now he's going to get one

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Speaker 1: after not being here for seven weeks or five weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's not an injury though, Yeah, I understand. Do you

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Speaker 1: nothing else to do. Perry Mason just gave an answer

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Speaker 1: right there. You know, if you're they're way too young

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Speaker 1: for Perry Mason. Perry Mason and I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: talk about age here. I'm sorry, but you know, Harry Mason,

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Speaker 1: just gave me a Perry Mason possibly with with Hitchens

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Speaker 1: out of necessity, they might say Anthony Hitchens would one

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Speaker 1: padded practices. It's good enough, better than what we've been

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Speaker 1: dealing with here the last week. I think it's got

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Speaker 1: to come down to how he looks this week, because

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Speaker 1: this team does have a history of pointing to that

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Speaker 1: buy right. If they don't, they don't want to put

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Speaker 1: An extra week would do him really good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: same with Sean Lee. I think you can see he

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Speaker 1: can't hamstring. Same with that hamstring that you got to

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Speaker 1: He can't. He's not going to repull something and the

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Speaker 1: bones got to be healed right, otherwise they wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: him out him out to practice. So from that aspect,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a chance. I think I agree. I

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Speaker 1: agree with everything everybody said. If they'd won the Rams game,

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Speaker 1: the extra week, yeah, I agree. The same thing with

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Speaker 1: Sean Jones this morning. Yeah, but could we let it

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, and the buys yeah and Tay. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jerry pointed out a couple of the appearents they've got

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Speaker 1: down the road here and the undefeated Chiefs down the road.

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Speaker 1: I'm Washington. Yeah, we can finally talk about the first

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Speaker 1: place schedule this week. Yeah, because that's why they're playing

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Speaker 1: the Pack. Yeah, because it matters. It does matters for

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Speaker 1: they play Philadelphia the last game, right, yeah, that could

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Speaker 1: pretty good, lesson, I'm not given washing enough credit. And

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Speaker 1: all those injuries got to hurt. That's got to hurt

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Speaker 1: Josh Norman now looking, I don't know the severity of

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Speaker 1: big hit on Kareem Hunt. Yeah yeah, no, not Kareema.

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Speaker 1: a lot of really good players suffering injuries already Derek

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Speaker 1: it just seems got Romo direct, and Romo was the

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Speaker 1: That does not feel good. The Packers have a bunch,

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Speaker 1: Oh they do, and they're and they're scrambling around right now.

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Speaker 1: They think about docks have no running back. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're young guys out injured reserve right Carson, Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Time mcgarnbery just said on a on a podcast

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Speaker 1: they ain't playing multiple broken ribs. Yeah, that would be

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Speaker 1: that's a break for the Cowboys them. He does going

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Speaker 1: look at her. He had something. He had something in

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Speaker 1: that game. Eighty eight number or whatever it is. Come on, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver. Back when you're back when you

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Speaker 1: were playing football, they were funny numbers, like seventy seven

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Speaker 1: was a ball carrier. Oh the other day the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: put don't think running back, Oh Cleveland Brown or somebody

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Speaker 1: in twenty and he's actually like your receiver Yeah, that's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's hard works. I mean, you know, but you're talking

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Speaker 1: about this. The Packers still did have a running back

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Speaker 1: carousel last year when the Cowboys faced him in the

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Speaker 1: regular season and Eddie Lacy still was able to get

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Speaker 1: the job done. Yeah, this week, looking to see who

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Speaker 1: might be playing for them at running back. You know,

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Speaker 1: they've got a lot of questions. They have a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions, But I think the Cowboys have a lot

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Speaker 1: of Cowboys have a lot of questions. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: what we're trying to figure out here, is is you know,

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Speaker 1: to put him? I bet you, I bet you. Hold

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Speaker 1: He's got to be on this roster and that doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to technically be done until Saturday. But a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are now questioning is it just benet ben

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Speaker 1: wickery because he didn't really play any defensive snaps, he

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Speaker 1: barely delivered on special teams. He had a holding call.

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Speaker 1: he was a band aid or a bridge. How bad

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Speaker 1: It's not putting Carroll and ir guy. He's still in

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, give a break, but Micky,

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Speaker 1: feature packed? Feature packed? Yeah, packed with good features you

425
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Speaker 1: forward slash cowb What made you choose that? What? What

427
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, what Because life's all about decisions.

428
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Speaker 1: What what made you choose that? What a straight face?

429
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Speaker 1: Trying to life is about decisions. Why I'm in here

430
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Speaker 1: every day? I'm wondering that right now. Yeah, good point

431
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Speaker 1: to Jarry. I don't really have great choices here, you know,

432
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Speaker 1: none of them are fantastic. Tommy John's a good, great product.

433
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Speaker 1: It's a great product. We do that read and it'll

434
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Speaker 1: just be over and then we'll just move on to

435
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Speaker 1: David Irving or whatever we want to talk about anything.

436
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: Did you listen to Jerry today? Yes? Did you? It

437
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: went right past me when he was telling the story

438
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: about the fat Pony. Yeah, No, the one about the

439
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Speaker 1: fair when he had he couldn't win a Qupi dial baseball. Yeah,

440
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: and they had to they had to censor him because

441
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, buddy started laughing, right, and I'm going, well,

442
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: he didn't say anything that funny. And then when I

443
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Speaker 1: got here, they were talking about it and they said, yeah,

444
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Speaker 1: they had to. They hit to hit the dump button,

445
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Speaker 1: the dump button, because he kind of used a word

446
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Speaker 1: he's not supposed to use. He was saying he was

447
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Speaker 1: trying to win a qpie Dowal throwing. Is it a

448
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: baseball or softball at little milk? Yeah? Things the target, Yeah,

449
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: you gotta knock the three things down. He said I

450
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Speaker 1: just couldn't hit that stuff, and they and he said

451
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Speaker 1: I just couldn't hit And then they all started yeah,

452
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Speaker 1: and I'm going, what what happened? What was so funny?

453
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Speaker 1: And that's the old seven second dump? But finally figured

454
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Speaker 1: out what old dump took play. I told him you

455
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Speaker 1: ruined the joke for me. It was great. They said

456
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Speaker 1: it would have been a fine. I said, he'd have

457
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: paid it. Yeah, yeah, it's It's always nice when Jerry

458
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Speaker 1: Jones gets really real and you hear, oh sure, well

459
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: he gets comfortable and you forget you're not just on

460
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Speaker 1: the phone with somebody, you're on radio. Right. I've done

461
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: it before, right, yeah, Brian Ryan too done it. But hey,

462
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: let's join the club. We're back here in the SWBC

463
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: Mortgage studio and we actually have a caller who is

464
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Speaker 1: in an area of this country that we are very

465
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Speaker 1: curious about right now as Cowboys fan. So right from

466
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Speaker 1: New Orleans? What is your question? How you guys doing

467
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: being great? How you right? Um? I don't really have

468
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Speaker 1: a question I guess I just called just to hear

469
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Speaker 1: Micky's voice. Oh good, it's been it's been a while.

470
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Speaker 1: It's been a while. Did you go down to the

471
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Speaker 1: courthouse like no other He's awesome. Did you go down

472
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Speaker 1: to the courthouse to help us out monitoring that that hearing?

473
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Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking about that, Mike. I don't

474
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Speaker 1: think Zeke was going to be there, so I know

475
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Speaker 1: I did not go to the courthouse. You just were

476
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Speaker 1: going for autographs. I wanted you to be our like

477
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Speaker 1: reporter on the scene. Might catch you Pat O'Brien's. We'll

478
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Speaker 1: see how that goes. I guess later on today we'll

479
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Speaker 1: have an answer. Huh maybe maybe, yeah, Okay, Well, you know,

480
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Speaker 1: it was a great weekend. We stayed at the at

481
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Speaker 1: the the hotel. I mean, what that place is amazingas

482
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Speaker 1: first time I had seen the Star. I can't believe that,

483
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: but the first time I've seen it, and were kind

484
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: of waiting around for Brian brought us on Sunday morning,

485
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Speaker 1: but then we had to get down to the game.

486
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Speaker 1: I wanted to stop laying from the road to him. Yea,

487
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: waiting till around thirty. I think you did a show

488
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Speaker 1: at ten forty five, right, Brian, I did. We were

489
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Speaker 1: out in the Lindsey Draper and I did our pregame

490
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Speaker 1: show out there. Yeah, so we try to wait around

491
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: long as we could, thank you to catch the show

492
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: and say hello. But getting back to the to the

493
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Speaker 1: Cowboys and stuff, I don't really have any questions. I

494
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: guess we can all see what's going on. There's always

495
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Speaker 1: a fine line of or three or four plays throughout

496
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Speaker 1: games that are defining that defined the outcome of the game,

497
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Speaker 1: I think. But my biggest concern is is the run game.

498
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Speaker 1: We just if you can. You can't go four and

499
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Speaker 1: five drives in a row without scoring points in the

500
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Speaker 1: second half and expect to win the game, especially against

501
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Speaker 1: a team that can score points. And that's just playing anybody. Sure.

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Speaker 1: My biggest concern would be, like, I just can't put

503
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Speaker 1: my finger on it. I don't know why we can't.

504
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: We averaged five yards to carry on first down last year.

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Speaker 1: We're not having that team input this year. That's the

506
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Speaker 1: biggest difference to me, Because your best defense is your

507
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: offense is not playing left guard and right tackle. That

508
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Speaker 1: would be the biggest difference to me for that. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know how we fixed that. I mean,

510
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Speaker 1: the defense is gonna be what it is. But last

511
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Speaker 1: year we outscore some teams, like like Washington during Thanksgiving.

512
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Speaker 1: We you know, Kirk Cousins had like full touchdown scorn

513
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Speaker 1: or something yards. So you just have to outscore the opponent.

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Speaker 1: I think we could have had we at least got

515
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Speaker 1: a couple of points, a couple of field goals on

516
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Speaker 1: one of those four or five drives in the second half.

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Speaker 1: But the guys, I just wanted to say, hello, I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't have all the answers. I mean, I'm

519
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Speaker 1: not gonna try to sit here and play coach. Uh,

520
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Speaker 1: but you can see what We'll see who we can

521
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Speaker 1: get a win this weekend would be tough. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what happens. Always great talking to you guys. Guys are awesome,

523
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Speaker 1: keep doing it. Thanks Rays. Always good to see you. Ray.

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Speaker 1: This is slowly turning into the twenty sixteen recap show,

525
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Speaker 1: and I get it, Ray, I know you're frustrated. That

526
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Speaker 1: makes complete sense. But four or the five drives in

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Speaker 1: the second half, absolutely well, they scored on the first

528
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Speaker 1: four drives they had in the first half. We told

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Speaker 1: you yesterday Wade Phillips made great, great adjustments in that

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Speaker 1: second half. Yes, I know it's frustrating, but the biggest

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Speaker 1: difference for me is not the five yards per carry.

532
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Speaker 1: It's that online And I think you know, Ray had

533
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Speaker 1: a good question, but this question kind of goes to

534
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Speaker 1: what really I think might be the issue, and it

535
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Speaker 1: goes Roger says, with new pieces on the old line,

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Speaker 1: is there chemistry issue? And if so, is it affecting

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Speaker 1: the whole team. I don't think it's like getting along

538
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Speaker 1: as you know, buddy o'pal chemistry issue as far as

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Speaker 1: like moving, blocking, trusting the other guy. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: cont knew it. I mean it's more important at that

541
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Speaker 1: spot than any spot on the roster because you got

542
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Speaker 1: five guys that have to and if one guy misses

543
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Speaker 1: the entire the entire operation suffers from it. And you

544
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Speaker 1: had a new left guard in the game, by the way,

545
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Speaker 1: so you started with one left guard and you had

546
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Speaker 1: another one. So that's changed for Frederick and Smith and

547
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: Smith and Smith that whole left side, no question. Let

548
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Speaker 1: me ask you the first four possessions they faced, third

549
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Speaker 1: and eleven, third and seven, third and six, and third

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Speaker 1: and eight got them all Also, yeah, and tell you

551
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: spoke to this, and Ray spoke to the first down running.

552
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: They punted three straight times in the second half. That

553
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: happened only twice last year in any all seventeen games. Yeah,

554
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Speaker 1: not often. They had five first down plays. In those

555
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: three drives, they got four yards out of it in

556
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Speaker 1: complete pass. Four runs for four yards was one of

557
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Speaker 1: them a jet sweep, one was the switzer. He got

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Speaker 1: three yards out. Yet minus run, you had a run

559
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Speaker 1: for no gain all of a sudden, they couldn't they

560
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: couldn't run the football. Yeah. They also tried a bubble

561
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: screen to Beasley right right off of fake sweep right,

562
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Speaker 1: which he should have given it to him, right. So yeah,

563
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: it's I don't think the question is about chemistry issues, right, yeah,

564
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Speaker 1: se can we feel like do we feel like though

565
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Speaker 1: that they've and this is gonna sound pretty simplistic, that

566
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Speaker 1: they've played very good fronts, that the fronts that they've played,

567
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Speaker 1: when you're blocking sixty plays a game or sixty five

568
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: plays a game, that they're gonna get you on one

569
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Speaker 1: or two of those plays, I mean, they have that

570
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Speaker 1: that you're playing such a you're playing such talented fronts

571
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Speaker 1: that if you do have a miss block that a

572
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Speaker 1: Michael Brockers is going to make you pay. You know,

573
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Speaker 1: it's not like they're getting beat by bad defensive linement.

574
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the Rams game in

575
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Speaker 1: the second half, the pressure came down to really two guys.

576
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: It came down to Aaron Donald and it came down

577
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Speaker 1: to Michael Brockers and on the on the on the pass,

578
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: on the pass play that was thrown that was intercepted,

579
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Speaker 1: Michael Rockers had to beat probably your second best lineman

580
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: to get the pressure in Zach Martin. You know. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the competition I think is says a lot.

582
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: Are people loading up on them? Yeah? People, But but

583
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: you're also dealing with you know, you're asking an offensive

584
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Speaker 1: line to be perfect against some of the better defensive

585
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Speaker 1: lineman in this league. It's a tough, tough stretch of

586
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Speaker 1: four fronts that you've been playing. Yeah, I think that,

587
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Speaker 1: I think that really has a lot to do with it.

588
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: But they do miss block. I mean, they have occasional breakdowns.

589
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: But I've always said, evaluate sixty five plays of an

590
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. But what happens is when they have one

591
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: or two miss blocks in a running game and then

592
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: it turns into a negative play, then we're like, well,

593
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Speaker 1: what's wrong with the running game. But then the other

594
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Speaker 1: fifty eight times that they've done and maybe twenty other runs,

595
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Speaker 1: guy got you know, they got their block, They handled

596
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, they handled Michael Brockers. You know, they got

597
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: that taken care of. I think that has a lot

598
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: to do with what's going on whether they face this week.

599
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: Packers aren't as good. I'll tell you what, and we'll

600
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Speaker 1: get into Packard talk tomorrow. I mean we'll talk about

601
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: but Daniels and guys like that. Yeah, they've got some

602
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: good I mean, they've got good players. But it's not

603
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: their linebackers give you problem. Yeah it's not. I mean,

604
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Speaker 1: like I said, when you look at and I watched

605
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Speaker 1: their defense, Kenny Clark, the knows is a good player.

606
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Speaker 1: Mike Daniels, there's questions about him. It's hip, it would be,

607
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, but they've they've had their struggles, they've had

608
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: their struggles up front. I think this is really more

609
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: about who they've played. Because when when you miss a

610
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: block on Aaron Donald and it could be your best player,

611
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna be right on top of your quarterback. He's

612
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna be right on your ball carrier, you know. I

613
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: think it's probably a little bit of both. Tay's right,

614
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: you got new pieces on this line, and yeah, they

615
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: we circled it in April, like we knew this, this

616
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: was gonna be a challenge for this. Jonathan Cooper is

617
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: not better than Aaron Donald. Yeah, And I don't know,

618
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if Ronald Leary

619
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Speaker 1: is better than mc donald. To your point, two weeks

620
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: in a row they played a defensive lineman or a

621
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: pass rusher the best at his particular position in the NFL.

622
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: They played Von Miller out of two out of three weeks,

623
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Speaker 1: and then they played Aaron Donald and nice pieces around

624
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: them too, So no question. But I think it's a

625
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: little bit of both. I mean, I think this line's

626
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: trying to adjust a little bit to some new pieces.

627
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: So I think the word was chemistry. I'm not sure

628
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 1: it's chemistry. I think it's continuity. You're trying that new

629
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Speaker 1: guys into your five. That's not half, but it's close.

630
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: I just don't think. And and the tight ends, Yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: the tight ends, that's that's even. That's a fair point too.

632
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: That's a really fair point. I don't think you're getting

633
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: hurt with Lyle Collins. No, I really don't know. I

634
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Speaker 1: don't think you're getting hurt with Lyle Collins. Now are

635
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: you getting hurt with Jonathan Cooper in that game the

636
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: other day? And maybe the fact that Jonathan Cooper all

637
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden is thrown into the game with reps

638
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: no reps during the week because it didn't get till Friday.

639
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: Did you get to Friday and all of a sudden

640
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: he's playing the game. It is the biggest thing that

641
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: hurt he did right now is that you like Chad's

642
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: green in there, but you just can't rely on him.

643
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: It's like all those other linemen that you have on

644
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: their knock on wood. You can most mostly rely on

645
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: them consistently. And that's that could be And they haven't

646
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: said this, but that could be one of the reasons

647
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: they said, Lyle, why don't you we're gonna put you

648
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Speaker 1: at right tackle because they wanted that to be consistent. Yeah, absolutely,

649
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: when when? When? But yeah, right, I do think when

650
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Chads is healthy, I think he's your left guard though still,

651
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Speaker 1: because I don't think he's been poor in these firsts. No,

652
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: but but what you're looking at too though, is you're

653
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: you're in a situation where you have had some guys,

654
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Speaker 1: like I said, as Zach Martin, miss a, Travis Frederick,

655
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Speaker 1: miss a, Tyrant Smith miss Yeah. You know when those guys,

656
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: when you're all pro players, miss then you're gonna have

657
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have some negative plays. But a lot

658
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: of it, I think is about who they've played. I

659
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: really really do and and and and and they had

660
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: you know you people probably say, well, Brian, what about

661
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and what about Yeah, look at the team they

662
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: didn't have success running the football against last year, the Giants, right, Minnesota. Yeah,

663
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: better fronts, right, one of the better, but you're playing

664
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Speaker 1: against better fronts. You know, it wasn't always pretty for

665
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: this running game last year. I think you can kind

666
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: of look back. They were big questions here in the

667
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: start of that first half of the season last year. Yeah,

668
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: member Zeke. First couple of games, Oh yeah, they wanted

669
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 1: to put Alfred Morrison there. I mean, I know my timeline,

670
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris. What's the you know bus? This kid's a bust.

671
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: You know, I just I look at I look at

672
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: the opponent, and I look Okay, who's making the plays

673
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: for them. That game in the second half came down

674
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: to Michael Brocker's and Aaron Donald and the way they

675
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: were able to play. That's that's really what happened in

676
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: that game. And he had a couple of bad does

677
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: Briant you know, drop on third down? You know, you

678
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: know what, Excuse me when you go back and look

679
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: at that play. He didn't drop it. He didn't catch

680
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: it right through his arms, right through his hands, the

681
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: wickets right now, it was low. You had to rather

682
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: the past. Sure, at least knee I not ankle high.

683
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: But he's made that catch before he has he has

684
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: see I think that was the first series, right, it

685
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: kind of got him off to kind of got him

686
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: off that bad start. Yeah, because that was the third

687
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: down play. Yeah s, yeah, it's it's it's a it's

688
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: a a lot of things going on here. But I

689
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I like I say, if they're best players are making

690
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: plays and your best players are trying to block them

691
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: and you're not having success, yeah, then then now it's

692
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: like huh yeah, I never will say then, oh well,

693
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: hey is this is supposed to be one of the

694
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: best lines in football. But having said all that, they

695
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: scored thirty points and had four hundred and forty yards

696
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: total offense. Got beat Bill, didn't he got beat? So

697
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: and the Ram score seven field goals and in can't

698
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: imagine that when you hand him thirteen points. It helps? Yeah,

699
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: absolutely it does help. Well, what also helps and you

700
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: guys get involved in our conversations. We now have Marked

701
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: from Boston on the line. Mark, what's your question? How's

702
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: everybody doing? We're good. I'm first time caller and I

703
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: followed your show for a long time, So thank you, glad.

704
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I guess that, thank you. Yeah. My question was Um

705
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: with the left cut and the right tackle. And this

706
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: is the thing that I have. People keep comparing the

707
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: Sign to the last three seasons and replacing Larry, and

708
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I knew that that was gonna be a big luck

709
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: because Cooper and Um and Green they're not as good.

710
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: They're not going to be as good. They're not as

711
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: good as Larry, and I think Collins will be as

712
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: good as Free. But you know, say what you want

713
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: about Free. He was a pro and he keep you know,

714
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: and he knew and he had the experience, he knew

715
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: how to play the game. And I think that's what

716
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Collins is laughing right now, but I think eventually he

717
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: will be up at a player. But I think that

718
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: that's the problem, and now the line just has to jail.

719
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know, people are acting like the Scott's calling,

720
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's I just think they just got to

721
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: give them offensive line some time to jail. And I

722
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: think the Copple to get back to doing what they're doing.

723
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: I think they got to win more on first down.

724
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: Excuse you, they gotta win more on first down. But

725
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: I believe that with some time, by the end of

726
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: the season, I believe this client will if Green stays healthy,

727
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I believe the line can jail and become, you know,

728
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: as good as the pubis three seasons. But right now

729
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: it's not and it's not gonna happen just like that

730
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: because before this, before the Copples got mind, remember all

731
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: the problems that was having them in twenty thirteen, but

732
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: Romo was running for his life. So I think that

733
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: with them, you know, with the offensive line, with the

734
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: way that um you know, you know, you know, I

735
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: thought they did a little better this week, but I

736
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: think that with time, the little jail. You know, that

737
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: was really my question about the offensive. Thanks, thank you

738
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: so much. I mean, it's funny about this whole thing.

739
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: And I and hey, thank you for calling sir. Really,

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00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: I can't tell you that the hate for Doug Free

741
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: by fans generally, and now he's gone, everybody through the day, everybody,

742
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: I say, then we'd rue the day. But I think

743
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: that's that's hard. I think you're right now, you're acknowledging

744
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: and you're missing is sure. But he made a decision

745
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't the team's decisions. Like no, no, no, But

746
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: I just find it funny. No, no, I find it.

747
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: I find it amusing, is what you know. Yeah, everybody

748
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: couldn't get couldn't wait to get rid of Doug Free,

749
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to get rid of him. And now he's gone.

750
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: He's like, oh my god, we miss Doug Free. That

751
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: happens at other positions too. Yeah. If the safety doesn't

752
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: make a play as well, Bury Church, we ride this, Yeah,

753
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: we ride this roller coast or this personnel roller coaster.

754
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Car. Yeah, all of a sudden, we miss Brandon Car.

755
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Oh noah, yeah, we will, we will, we will, we

756
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: will care her that would come up. Yeah, we will

757
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: kick Doug Free to the curb in a heartbeat. But

758
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, oh wait, we're not running for five yards

759
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: to carry. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Where's the

760
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: hell is Doug Free? My gosh, just team, you know,

761
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: come on, and you know what going into And I'm

762
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: not kicking the guy, that guy that called her, I'm

763
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: just saying it's it's amusing to me. Going into this game,

764
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: they had thirty six rushes on first down and they

765
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: were averaging three point two eight run, yeah, which is

766
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: terrible getting you in second and long, third and long

767
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: absolutely yeah. And even the passing plays. They had forty

768
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: four passing plays and they were averaging six point three yards. Yeah.

769
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: That's not getting the ball down the field at all.

770
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Playoff teams for seven seven yards are over. Yeah, so

771
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: that the first down has been problematic. They did get

772
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: better on third down, right, they were seven or fourteen,

773
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: much much better first down running in this game though,

774
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: first half eleven for ninety eight yards. Yeah. Well there

775
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: was a seventy eight yard run in there. It still counts, no,

776
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: I know, but it wasn't like consistently getting seven yards.

777
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Speaker 1: Take out the run and then would have they do,

778
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: huh take out Morris's run and then what did they do?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing. Math not me. It's

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00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: whatever he's saying here at this problem is on first out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but again, Yeah, they still scored thirty points with no

782
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Speaker 1: voted for I would have voted for Hitchins myself. Hitchens

843
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: got thirty eight percent of the vote. David Irving got

844
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: fifty WHOA, sorry, guys, yep, I'm in tune. Tay knows

845
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: the fandom. Do you think people and Carroll with eleven percent? Yeah?

846
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: Do you think people are going I'm sorry, WOZI yeah.

847
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 1: Do you think people are okay with with what they've

848
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: seen from Jalen Smith? Is that why the why they

849
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: don't feel as feel as uh strongly about getting Hitchens back? Oh?

850
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: I think you saw any I mean, look, linebacker on

851
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: some of these receivers, these Ram receivers. It doesn't matter

852
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: who it is. Yeah, doesn't matter who. It's not a

853
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: good matchup. You don't want Cooper Cup on a linebacker.

854
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: I think that they're more alert of the big plays

855
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: that opponents have been striking onto the Dallas Cowboys and

856
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: seeing that. Okay, their secondary issues, but if you get

857
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback down before any of that happened. Yeah, the

858
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: pass rush has been which helped him. Yeah. Yeah, I

859
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: think they've seen the how much it's improved with the

860
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: pass rush. When they win big games, they're doing something

861
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: right over there, and then when they don't, it's like, Okay, well,

862
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: how did Jared Goff get so many yards? You know,

863
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm I'm thinking, at least, I'm

864
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: not speaking for the fans. I'm just saying he had

865
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: the same amount of yards is the Dak Prescott? Yeah, now,

866
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: and he scored Dak Prescott scored three touchdowns. So, David Irving,

867
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: how many sacks did he finished with last year? Well,

868
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: the league the team lead was six, right, Yeah, second

869
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: was five, right, and that was your defensive tackle that

870
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: was Collins, right, he had five. No, he had four sacks,

871
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: led the team in pressures twenty six. Yeah, there you go. Well,

872
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: that's that Tampa game. He lit him up Tampa. That

873
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: gave it the end of the year Tampa and green Bay.

874
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Tampa and green Bay were his big games, which defensive

875
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: end spot was he rushing from against? Left side? Left side?

876
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: Left side defensive end? Should just put him on the

877
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: right side, because when they played Tampa, Lawrence was down.

878
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: They were wresting him for the playoffs, right, I just

879
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: don't want to move Lawrence back to our original You

880
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 1: want to shoot him there? Yes, absolutely, Mickey liked to play,

881
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: would like to do something to help his defensive tackles though, Yeah,

882
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Paia and I don't. I don't disagree with him

883
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: there knee the knee. I think it's slowing him down.

884
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean they played Crawford last year at some one

885
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: technique worried about him getting beat up in their playing one.

886
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's who's more sturdier, who's more

887
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: bulk gear to play the one of the nose, Collins

888
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: or Crawford. Joe Looney totally switched Joe Joe bo Joe

889
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: and there things up over to the D line. What

890
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: a plot twist. I mean we saw with Keith Smith.

891
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: Just kidding, Okay, what are you more worried about then?

892
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Because Dallas is third in the league in sacks? Yeah,

893
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: are you worried more about your run? Defense or getting pressure.

894
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: We've got a couple of We've gone four weeks without

895
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: anybody really saying I'm sorry. You probably said, hey, I'd

896
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: like to get the quarterback on the ground. I'm worried

897
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: about the runs they got to stop run. I wasn't

898
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: as worried about that. I know what you're saying, Mickey,

899
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: but I wasn't worried about the quarterback because look at

900
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that they faced. Besides Eli Manning, he placed

901
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: Trevor Simmon, and you know, Palmer's in the last years

902
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: of his career, and Jared Goff is such a question

903
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: mark some of these times. So I wasn't as worried

904
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: about that, and then it became an issue that we'd

905
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: seen from nowhere, and then you know, it's hard to

906
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: say the runner this past week because he plays like

907
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a receiver, right. Yeah, they limited the big plays in

908
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: the passing game last week. That girl's fifty three yarder

909
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: that should have been like a twenty yard completion. They

910
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: missed the tackle at the second level by the safety,

911
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: and the run defense is where they struggled. They gave

912
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: up eight runs of ten or more yards in the

913
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: game that doubled their previous total Sean Lee. He might

914
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: have not been the glixer for everything, but I think

915
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: your your guys Pro Football Focus say he's the best

916
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: run defense linebacker in the league right now. See sometimes, yeah,

917
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: those guys tell me that. Yeah that's that's honestly. Because

918
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: so someone sitting to me some about Miles Jack had

919
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: missed a tackle in two and I'm like, I was

920
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: happy until I looked at the source and unt I

921
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: saw what the source was Pro Football Focus. But anyway,

922
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: I you know, I wow, I'm everybody hates him. I

923
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: have more concern I have more concern over than playing

924
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: run defense now, I really do, because I when the

925
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: look at the teams that have beaten him. Yeah, how

926
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: they've won those games. It's been about the Yeah, it's

927
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: been about those ten eleven, you know, twelve yard runs

928
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: they had. They had seven of those allowed in the

929
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: second half. Yeah, three on that final drive that basically

930
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: ran out the clock, Cowboys out of timeouts two minutes left,

931
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: trying to win the game with a touchdown. Yeah, it

932
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: wasn't just girl, it was Tavon Austin and they knew

933
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: he was gonna run the ball. Yeah. Yeah, that's what's

934
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: sad when he's in the backfield, they're gonna give him

935
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: the ball. Just hey, they're gonna get it to him.

936
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: And they went look over there they went and left. Yeah,

937
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: cowboys right right, went left. Yeah. We needed Tony Romo

938
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: to call that game. He predicts those things. He helps

939
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: clear that up for these guys. But you know, we're

940
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: talking about runners and we we've mentioned it briefly. Just

941
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: an update on the easy Elliott rob Did you fly

942
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: back from New Orleans already here? Yes? I did. I

943
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: caught the forty five minute flight. Thank you American. No,

944
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: I wasn't here. See what could delay okay, just hold

945
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: on explain it a little bit, because what could delay

946
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: the ruling was Kessler came up. He found some legal

947
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: case and it was an arbitration case with some worker

948
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: with Verizon, and the worker actually won the case. And

949
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: so when the NFL was arguing that you can't overrule

950
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: an arbitration, he came up with the case. And the

951
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: judge said, so, mister Kessler, did did when did you

952
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: come up with that case? And he goes, has that

953
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: been in the evidence that you gave us beforehand? And

954
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: he goes, no, it wasn't and he goes, did the

955
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: NFL get that information? And he goes, H, no, I'm sorry,

956
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: your honor or, I didn't give it to him. We

957
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: just found it, and and he got admonished for not

958
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: giving it to him. So he said, Okay, by tomorrow

959
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: the NFL can respond to this case. So that meant today, right,

960
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: So I don't know how soon they get it to them,

961
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: and then they have to see what the response is

962
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: to this case they unearthed. I want to know who

963
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: their researchers are that they find all these precedent cases.

964
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Can you clear some things up? You know you're Mickey

965
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: is a very thorough reporter as always. We know that,

966
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: and he listened to the full hour of it yesterday.

967
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: But explain for some some people who are listening right

968
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: now who don't know who Kessler is. I'm sure a

969
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: lot do, but it's he's the nflpa's lead attorney, Okay.

970
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: And then the fact that they're in the Fifth Court

971
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: Circuit right now, right and the arguments are they're kind

972
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: of basic. To just try to simplify it. The NFL

973
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: is saying that the NFLPA wrong fully filed a lawsuit

974
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: before the obitration was the verdict given and the nflpa's saying,

975
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: and they used an analogy. I think they used a semi,

976
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: something like when a semi is getting ready to run

977
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: into your house, you don't have to stay into the

978
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: house before you leave, right when you know there's going

979
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: to be an accident, you get out. And they're saying,

980
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: we knew we were going to lose the obitration because

981
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: when they didn't allow the evidence that Kia Roberts used,

982
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: uh didn't allow us to question commissioner, we knew we

983
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: were going to get beat. So we filed the lawsuit

984
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: ahead of time. And the NFL's saying, well, that's wrong,

985
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have done that. So basically what's going on

986
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: right now, it's like there's no arguments about guilt or

987
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: not guilt. It's the legal ease of did you have

988
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: the right to file before the hearing was delivered? And

989
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: then then fell saying that we have to get a

990
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: stay on the stay because we can suffer a reprotable

991
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: harm if he's not immediately punished. And one of the

992
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: questions of the NFL by the appellate panel was why

993
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: did you let him play Week one? It was still

994
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: concerned about a reprotable harm to the NFL. Yeah, and

995
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: they didn't have a good answer that. You know what

996
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: their answer was, this is a different process because this

997
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: is new stuff that we're mitigating with domestic violence. We

998
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: didn't have this process before. But the nfl PA pointed out, well,

999
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 1: they didn't suffer a reprotable harm with the Tom Brady

1000
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: case and they didn't even question that. They allowed that

1001
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: to go an entire year and he still served his suspension.

1002
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: So our argument is regardless of when he's suspended, if

1003
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: he's suspended and we lose, he's still gonna suffer for

1004
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: a six game suspension. And the nfl PA, you know,

1005
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: they're they're basically talking about well, yeah, but then no,

1006
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: the NFL is saying, well, this undermines our suspension rules,

1007
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: like everybody can do the same thing and never get suspended.

1008
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: Bottom line, there's a few options here, Right, they could

1009
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: either grant a stay of the injunction, which could have

1010
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: allowed Zeke to be suspended immediately, right. They could deny

1011
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: it to where if it goes through the normal court system,

1012
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: he could play all season or likely before they ever

1013
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: get to the lawsuit case. Or they could decide, correct

1014
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong to throw this out and say

1015
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: that the jurisdiction wasn't warranted in Texas, and then it

1016
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: would go to New York? Is that right? Yes? Yes?

1017
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: And then it starts all over again because they're basically

1018
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: saying they shouldn't even be in New Orleans, they should

1019
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: be in New York. So then the process with what

1020
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: start all over again? Yeah? Oh boy? It And I

1021
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: was told and I said, what happens if you know

1022
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: what happens if they throw it all out? And I said,

1023
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: where does it go from there? And I was told

1024
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court? Yeah. And I can't imagine the Supreme

1025
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: Court doesn't have better things to litigate than a football

1026
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: matter on a suspension stud the Great Wizard White Alive.

1027
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: We yeah, probably, But see, the whole thing comes The

1028
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: whole thing just comes down to did you have a

1029
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: you know, the bottom line, which we may never get to, yeah,

1030
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: was did you have a fair arbitration hearing? Right? And

1031
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: the answer, obviously, when you see it all is absolutely not.

1032
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, thank you, Mickey, I mean, hey, I listened

1033
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: to all. That's a lot to remember. I think that

1034
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys fans are constantly wondering every Monday morning, is it

1035
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: going to be playing the Sunday? Yeah? Can you playing tonight?

1036
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: If that's going on? I know one thing though, if

1037
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: they do, Look if if Zeke's, if the NFL Players

1038
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: Association loses this, this thing is going to be immediate.

1039
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: They're not waiting around. No, they're not. They've oh yeah

1040
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: the suspension, suspension, get ready, it could happen. If it

1041
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: happens on a Thursday, a Friday, Saturday, whatever, boom, They're

1042
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna six games. Yeah, they're gonna hit it. Can now

1043
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about the running game in a whole

1044
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: new light. Yep, but we Silford More. It's a little

1045
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: hope there, that's true. Are they working on Saturday? Can

1046
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: they rule it on Saturday? They can rule whenever they want.

1047
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: Those judges are probably over at Felix's eating oysters. Now, guys,

1048
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: we have a friend of the show who always gets

1049
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: in the phone lines. We appreciate you calling from such

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Speaker 1: a far far away country. Philip from France on the

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Speaker 1: phone lines. What is your questions? First, I want to

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Speaker 1: say that I keep all the people of Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: in my praises, thank you very much. I stick to

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Speaker 1: my games about Jared Goof. I wasn't that impress Briscott

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Speaker 1: was better despite the loss and the mistakes managing long

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Speaker 1: and clock, eating drives and keeping drives alive with his abilities.

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Speaker 1: Now might be beating a dead horse here, but I

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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out why the online play was

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Speaker 1: so so after three weeks compared to last year, I said,

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Speaker 1: my day off today. My wife will get on my

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Speaker 1: back later in the evening. But watching random two two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen games, it was a giant at Dallas

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Speaker 1: Bengals and at Steelers, and the first three of this

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Speaker 1: young season from different tangles and different speed, I want

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Speaker 1: to say I'm not the kind the person throwing dirt

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Speaker 1: on people who I respect for the football knowledge they

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Speaker 1: have compared to mind to mind. Excuse me, but I

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Speaker 1: noticed a few things. If I'm off, tell me and

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Speaker 1: please correct me. Terrence Smith doesn't really look like himself

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Speaker 1: so far this year. I mean he doesn't look as

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Speaker 1: smooth and light footed as before. I assume he's still

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Speaker 1: bothered by his back, but I noticed something else. It

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Speaker 1: was a thick lake on his assignments. I mean he

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Speaker 1: tends to look lean. Wait, check longer on his right side,

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Speaker 1: while Collins is still a work in progress, although he's

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Speaker 1: getting better and better after each game. Is in learning

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Speaker 1: the passions to play right tackle will pay him huge dividends.

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Speaker 1: Travis Fredericks, who's at his best when he can climb

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Speaker 1: up to the second level is a thick lay to

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Speaker 1: rich block or comball block on his right. On his left,

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Speaker 1: he sometimes finds himself on left on an island. He

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Speaker 1: seems worried about the backside block when the play is

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Speaker 1: going on the right side. I saw him often in

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Speaker 1: his first or and a third step looking on his

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Speaker 1: left thing he didn't do that often last year. Then

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Speaker 1: he's late and he can climb up to the second

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Speaker 1: level and cut the defense into because the linebacker road

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Speaker 1: or the safety has time to fill the gap. Like

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Speaker 1: Martin is often look into his left two to check

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Speaker 1: where Frederick is, and then he is late and he's

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Speaker 1: assignment to as his Collins. Then the Titans, waiting for

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Speaker 1: the garden tackle to push to ease their job and

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Speaker 1: creating a lot of jam found themselves with their pants

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Speaker 1: around their ankles trying to block bigger defensive end instead

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Speaker 1: of simply chipping them or getting in the way and

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Speaker 1: looking for second level blocks, a simple DOMAINO effect from

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Speaker 1: where far that looks and smells like something like a

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Speaker 1: count maybe a confidence crisis. Regarding the last left guard spot,

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Speaker 1: the greatest call we ever had. We appreciate that, wondering, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know if I could argue

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Speaker 1: with somebody any of that. We can't because we are

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Speaker 1: much we're out of time. No, that was great, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are did a great job. He did agree, you've

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Speaker 1: been watching game pass or what he's been watching some

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Speaker 1: NFL games. Start your free trial today. Well that's how

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Speaker 1: how knowledge well you could be if you two. He

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Speaker 1: went back and studied games last year too. He said,

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Pittsburgh good games to watch, you know, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about three to four fronts or I think

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Speaker 1: with the since any but at least with the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: But no, I don't think that he was. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's far off. And you know, and there's a

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Speaker 1: there is some some confidence in what you're having to

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Speaker 1: do there, see, and it's the continuity, right. I think

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Speaker 1: he pointed out about Frederick looking left because he's not

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Speaker 1: like bad, are you doing your job over there? Well,

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Speaker 1: we're doing our job. We're doing our job every day

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Speaker 1: at eleven thirty am Central time. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what time that is in France, but Philip yeah, and

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Speaker 1: everyone five thirty six thirty at night, and everyone who

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Speaker 1: joined us today. We constantly appreciate it, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow here in the s of VC Market Studio.

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