1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Revere Reverly dalks. Look at us now, tip to tip. 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. It is Wednesday, the twenty seventh 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: of January twenty twenty one. A lot of twenties in there. Hi, everybody, 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: but it's two guys who are not in their twenties. 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: This is Morning Combat. 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Hello ever one. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm from CBS Sports. And 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 2: the man across the screen is also from CBS Sports. 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: Also a man not in his twenties. Also a man who, 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: like me, has been nursing a hangover that didn't even 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: come from drinking. It just came from being on the road. 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: It's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, how are you? 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: Luke? Yeah, I'm old, I'm a little washy, but you 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 4: understand that art takes no days off. Brother, Right, the 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: Picassos of Punch Talk are back at it. Okay, bro, 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: all right? You think I'm gonna You think I'm gonna 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 4: take a day off. You think I'm gonna stop doing 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 4: what it is I do you think that there are 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: faces left out there in the combat world that have 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 4: yet to be arded upon. Let's make this shit a verb. 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: Let's change lives, Luke. Okay, it starts right here in 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: your office and in mind, Bro. Great to see you 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: feeling really good about how we ended, right, didn't start great? 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 4: Feeling really good how we ended though hopefully the people 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: will eventually get to see that in the dock. But hey, Wednesday, 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: hump day, No, Jay, let's do it, all right, let's 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 4: do it. 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: What did you do yesterday? 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: Yeah? 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: I wrote it. 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: I wrote a story for CBS Sports, and I laid 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 4: down a lot, Luke, all right. 36 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: I just I basically took different intervals of the day 37 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: grazing in the in the fridge and then telling my 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: wife how tired I was. That was really my entire day. 39 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: I didn't do well, That's not true. Actually, I did 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: a ton of tape study. Actually, for today's episode, we 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: actually have some fun topics to get to. There are 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: some leftovers from UFC two fifty seven that we're gonna 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: get to here today. Plus we have some news of 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: the wacky and weird inside the fight game, which we'll 45 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: talk about as well, some boxing updates on some potentially 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: some huge fights, so we'll talk about that. Plus we're 47 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: doing the Wheel of Death today, which people seem to love. 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: I think it was what your idea and people have 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: gravitated to it very quickly. 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: We'll do that. 51 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: Plus BC, I did not look at them individually, but 52 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: I looked at the slate, like how many there were? 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: We have something like one hundred fans submissions today. 54 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 4: What happened, Well, we took a week off last week 55 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: because you were you were traveling, and not only that, 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 4: we've got a lot of them. We've got hey, spoil oilert. 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: It's kind of close with a bang. Okay, So if 58 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: you can sit through them all we want to, you know, 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: definitely throw love to all our folks out there who 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: who who do us right? Keep doing us well. 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: Anyway, you already said it as best. I'll just reiterate 62 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: it here very quickly. Which is thanks to everyone who 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: made last week. You know, a couple of hiccups early, 64 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: but I feel like we finished the race pretty strong, 65 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: and we've got a good content that got out there, 66 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: a lot of good ideas and seeds that got planted 67 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: for future kinds of content. So we're actually really happy 68 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: with how everything turned out. And still more content from 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: that week, as you indicated to come. First things first, 70 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: of course, beyond that thumbs up on the video, hit 71 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: subscribe on the channel. Welcome to all the new subscribers. This, 72 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: of course is our Wednesday show. On top of that, 73 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: we got to, you know, let the folks know who 74 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: makes the show possible. If you would like to try 75 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: Showtime for free for thirty days, you can have a 76 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: trial go to Showtime dot com and you can set 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: all of that up plus as you can see BC 78 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: ever so suavely. 79 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: That's not quite it doesn't make sense. Actually, it's mean soft. 80 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Ever so debonairely modeling close. You can go to store 81 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 2: dot show dot com. We've got hats, we've got mugs, cups, condoms, posters. 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: We shipped to every state in the Union, every country 83 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: in the world. I swear it'll work just well. So 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 2: go check that out please. And what else be seeing? 85 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: Wh am I forgetting anything else? 86 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 5: Well? 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: I did have a talk about you know, merch two 88 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: point zero about where the hell has it been? Okay, 89 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: so hopefully that stirred things up. Okay on the Showtime side, 90 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: let's get it. Let's put our clothes on our people okay, 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: let's do it here, all right, and before we know 92 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 4: when they got when they got a rowdy school luke 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: in an inner sitting, They're like, I know how to 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: clean up the behavior here. Let's put everybody in uniforms. 95 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: We have the same mission for the fight. Fans around 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: the globe, all right, you don't see people wearing DC 97 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: and the Canadian guy sweatshirts, but you will see MK 98 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: all day, nearly every day. 99 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: All right. 100 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: What shirt, speaking of Canadians, what shirt are you wearing? 101 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: Is that a brock Lessner shirt? 102 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 4: That is a brock Lessner UFC two hundred shirt. What's 103 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: awesome about it is there's all this graffiti over his face, 104 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: all these motivational quotes about what he's going to do. 105 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: Nowhere does it say inject horse steroids. But you know, hey, 106 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 4: well done, just the same had two hundred there, BROC. 107 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: All right. 108 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: And by the way, for folks like he's not Canadian, 109 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: he's an American. He walked out with Canadian gear fight kit 110 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: and posed with the Canadian flag for that fight, so 111 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 2: please suck my balls. Okay, with that in mind, BC, 112 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: let's get this show started. Topic number one here on 113 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: the Wednesday Rundown. This was one that really made the 114 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: rounds on social media, and I'd be curious to know 115 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 2: what you think about it. Now here's what's FUNNYBC, because 116 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: McGregor has so many fights that are relatively short. The 117 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: one against Diaz, the second time went five. He's got 118 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: the four rounder three and a half, I guess against 119 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: t B. But in general's fights are pretty short. So 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: I actually did this last night. You're gonna laugh at me, 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: but I really did. I went back and I watched 122 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: all his fights, certainly from the UFC on. We talked 123 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: about him all last week's program, but I went back 124 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: and just rewatched him. Because there's a claim being made 125 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: that maybe the reason that Connor McGregor lost is, yes, 126 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: Dustin Poirier has improved, had a great game plan, was 127 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: dialed in, all the things that you can say positive 128 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: about him, none of that changes, but that something has changed. 129 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: So the argument goes with Connor McGregor that his style 130 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: is not. 131 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: What it used to be. 132 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: He used to be wide open, you know, karate styling, 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: lots of kicks, working at much further range, and with 134 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: that he had more weapons, he had more command of range, 135 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: he was much more dynamic as a fighter, he sort of, 136 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: so the claim goes evolved into something of a boxer 137 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: with not much else behind it, and that's a big 138 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: key contributor to why he lost. What do you make 139 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: of that claim? 140 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's not it's not off base, It really isn't. 141 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: And I get a you know, I saw a lot 142 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: of the backlash to what we said on Monday show, 143 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 4: which is, you know, these fricking clickbaitters, these these baylesses 144 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 4: of MMA, they try to talk us into Connor heading 145 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: into this fight, and now they're quickly saying the sport 146 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 4: might have passed him by. Well, look what we said 147 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 4: coming in was the evidence we had in front of us, 148 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, forty seconds of Cowboys Seroni and some really 149 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: good pictures of him in shape, and some really good interviews. 150 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 4: And I think from that, you know, we we bought 151 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 4: into that We're gonna get the very best of what's 152 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 4: left of this guy. So it's phrase I repeated often. 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: I just think, at the end of the day, is 154 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 4: it sixty percent Dustin Poier is just that good in 155 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 4: an all time great Yes it is, but let's not 156 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: look past when you do watch the video a couple 157 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: times of McGregor just seemingly being a you know, a 158 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: step behind and just not having the same adaptable abilities 159 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 4: and the same just bite down toughness, Luke, all things considered, 160 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 4: it just didn't necessarily look like the same guy, certainly 161 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: not a guy you know who has benefited from activity 162 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: and looked fresh. And I think if you do the 163 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: math and you do the work like you do so 164 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: many great times on a on a former program we 165 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 4: had on here, which was a ratings blockbuster called Dissected. 166 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: Right, MK dissected? 167 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: Good God, where would we be we're without that one, Luke. 168 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: I will say that you can look and see, I mean, 169 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: from footwork to everything. I feel like he was trying 170 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: to catch up for everything he missed in the course 171 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 4: of that fight. And again it's not like he didn't 172 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: have moments. It's not like he wasn't maybe one big 173 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: punch away from finishing Pourier. But I don't think it's 174 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: wrong to say that, you know, you know, he hasn't 175 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: benefited from the time off where he really weren't sure. 176 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: The proof was going to have to be in the 177 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: pudding there, and it was at the end of the day. 178 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: I'm more interested in the things that you see with 179 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: your very keen eye, Luke, in terms of has the 180 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 4: change in boxing for the big camp with Mayweather, has 181 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 4: that really changed his footwork? 182 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Is he not? 183 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: Is he back too far up? I mean, what kind 184 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 4: of things are you picking out for the fact that, 185 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: let's be honest, the sport is evolving every month, man, 186 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 4: and you know Connor's got to try to keep up here. 187 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 4: So are some of the changes you saw him making 188 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: him attempting to do that? And just coming up short? 189 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 4: What are you seeing here when you do the math? 190 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 191 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 2: So again I went through every single one, and I 192 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: went through it in order too, right, So I went 193 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: from Brimage on to who was after that? But then 194 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: it was Brandau eventually, and then Poirier and then Siver 195 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. I went through it all. You know, 196 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: you can't get a whole lot out of the Jose 197 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: Aldo fight, but even then I want to see what 198 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: stance did he at least open up with. And I 199 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: went all the way through until Saturday. Here's the things 200 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: that I picked up on. If you just look at 201 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: let's say, BC, the Diego Brandau fight and then you 202 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: just look at the fight from Saturday, you might notice 203 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: some pretty significant differences. I think that part is true, 204 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: But the story's a little bit more complicated than that. 205 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 2: Here's what I picked up on. 206 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: First. 207 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: He opens up in the both DS fights a little bit, 208 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: you know, pretty at distance, pretty well, you know, throwing 209 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: a lot of kicks, especially in the first DS fight, 210 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: much less than the second DS fight. 211 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: All Right. 212 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: So the first thing is, I would say, if you're 213 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: looking for a turning point, to me, the real turning 214 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: point is the second DS fight after his first UFC loss. 215 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: That is when a lot of the real spinny stuff, 216 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: the high amplitude stuff, I'm leaving my feet to throw, 217 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be really diving in from range. A 218 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: lot of that went away, obviously because he had gassed 219 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: himself in. 220 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: The first one and he wanted to get rid of it. 221 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: So the first thing i'd say is, if you're looking 222 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: for where the change happened, the Mayweather part might be 223 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: another change, But to me, the first real change that 224 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: I can pick up on, it happens right there. That's 225 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: the first thing i'd say. The second thing I'd say 226 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: is when he gets tired, he goes from being wide 227 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: open where his hands are down around his waist to 228 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 2: up here boxing pretty quickly. Go to any fight where 229 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: he gets a little bit tired, and you'll see he's 230 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: flat footed, trying to counter in the pocket, hands around here, 231 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: not around his waist. So this idea that like, oh, 232 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: what he was doing is a deep aberration from what 233 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: he's always done. No, it's a deep aberration from how 234 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 2: he has started at certain times, he eventually, when he 235 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: gets tired, ends up into that kind of a position. Third, 236 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: I'd say all this stuff about I'm gonna touch, touch, touch, 237 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, bouncing touch, touch, touch. That's against right handers, 238 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: not against south pause, at least not as much a 239 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: little bit in the first DS fight. But again that 240 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: went so off the rails he tried to correct for it. 241 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: By the second one one when he fought south pause, 242 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: you hardly see any of that again relative to the 243 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: other kind. To the point BC I was like, how 244 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: did he start against Habib Habib again a right hander? 245 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 2: You know how he started at distance, wide stands, touch, backs, touch, 246 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: trying to dive in from from what he went back 247 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: to the way he was before, which is why you 248 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: did not see some of these claims in the Habib 249 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 2: fight were why weren't people bringing this up? Because you 250 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: just never saw it. It was never a part of 251 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 2: the conversation. And plus also wrestling. 252 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: It's also different in fights, Luke, here's a guy who 253 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: you know, eighty percent of his fights, he's dictating the terms, 254 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: even fights he lost, like the first Natias fight, he's 255 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 4: dictating the terms of that fight until it went south. 256 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 4: Really mendes Habib and now this Pourier fight, even though 257 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: Connor won the first round, in a lot of our eyes, 258 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: he had to do it by getting up off the canvas. 259 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: We sort of saw his original game plan shaken and 260 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 4: turned upside down. And that's sometimes, Luke, when when that happens, 261 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: when you make that first adjustment, we're gonna you know, 262 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: sometimes you throw your technique or your plans you know, 263 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 4: away because it's it's fight time, you're in it. So 264 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: that certainly can change some of. 265 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: That, Okay, But the last one is this So I 266 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: think I think it's you know, the idea that he 267 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: never boxed that way before is not true. He did 268 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: when he got tired. The idea that he boxes the 269 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: same way or you know, strikes the same way against 270 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: South Paup versus Orthodox. I don't think that's true. I 271 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: don't think you can really detect a major significant change 272 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: until the second Das fight. So these are the things 273 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: that picked up on. And there's one more and this 274 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 2: is where Poarier really played a significant role because he 275 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: was South Paul. That then you can really do about that, 276 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: But that's sort of a nature of the condition. What 277 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: would be the difference between Nate Diaz who was South 278 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 2: Paul and Dustin Poirier. I will tell you if you 279 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: go and look at the first fight, excuse me, the 280 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: second fight between Nate Diaz and Connor McGregor, here's the 281 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: major difference. I was looking at his old fights PC, 282 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: and I noticed they were much more dynamic, like there 283 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: was constantly. There's just a lot of activity. There's a 284 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: lot of something happening. Even if he's fainting, there's some 285 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: kind of just these guys are in motion all the time. 286 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,119 Speaker 2: But the key is he landed a lot on opposition, 287 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: and they didn't land a lot on him. In the 288 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: second Connor McGregor, excuse me, a second neck Diaz fight, 289 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: Connor landed thirty four of sixty excuse me, be a 290 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: fifty eight. So he attempted a bunch and landed a bunch. 291 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: As we indicated in the dustin Parier rematch, he only 292 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: attempted thirty four. She was only attempted thirty seven and 293 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: landed just seventeen. But this is the key, Nay, Diaz 294 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: landed twenty five, which is a lot, but of seventy three, 295 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 2: Connor was just much more active. One because Diaz was 296 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: missing a lot, and two because Diaz wasn't really landing 297 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: a lot either. I mean a lot of those twenty 298 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: five's are just pitter powder. 299 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: Dude. 300 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: When Parier lands, he lands, and I think it began 301 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: to deter Connor a little bit. So you had a 302 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: guy who was harder to hit, who when he hit 303 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: it was much cleaner, who was a Southpaw this stage 304 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: of his career. Blah blah blah. You add up all 305 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: the peace, says, you get what you get. I'm not 306 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: here to say BC that there's nothing to the idea 307 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: that maybe he's gotten a little bit more one dimensional. 308 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: Maybe that's true, but I think the idea that he 309 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: has totally abandoned everything that got him here, maybe from 310 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: a work ethic standpoint, or maybe some other things he 311 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: could be doing. But the idea that this is a 312 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: complete and total aberration from the Connor we know. I 313 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: don't think the facts bear that out, man, I really don't. 314 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 4: Well, look, you know to that point I just made before, 315 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: it's not that he has not had fights in which 316 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 4: he's had to rally right the Let's give him credit 317 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 4: in the Mendes fight, let's give him credit in the 318 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: second Das fight. But for the most part, when you 319 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 4: are a you have a front running style, you have 320 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 4: a bully style, it's easier to do the things you 321 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: mentioned in those early fights, which is be more active, 322 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: set more traps, constant activity, because you're exuding a certain 323 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: level of threat and mental fatigue on your opponent because 324 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: you're so dynamic and you're dictating the terms under that. Guys, 325 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: if you believe in that that has a fighting style, 326 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: a little bit of a front run, a little bit 327 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: of a bully. When that's taken away from you, you said, 328 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: what's the difference between Nate and Poorier and dust In 329 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: Connor's reaction, Well, Pooria a little bit more threat of 330 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 4: a takedown, something he landed early as well. That's gonna 331 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: put Connor much more in a defensive stance where he's reactionary, 332 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 4: where it's more about one big punch coming back than 333 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 4: trying to do the things that better set up his 334 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 4: finishing strikes. So this may be a function of the 335 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 4: matchup and the flow of where it went. And again, 336 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 4: let's not forget Connor did have some moments here second 337 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: half of round one, some moments even in round two 338 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: before the tables turned. But I think that's why you're losing. 339 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: So much of his volume is tied into him being 340 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 4: ahead in the fight and setting the terms. I don't 341 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: think that's crazy. Look I might be a little crazy. 342 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: I don't care. 343 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: If you asked, how did he fight in the first 344 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: Parier fight right with Linda so quickly, It's true he 345 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: was much further away. In fact, if you think about 346 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: that final sequence where he dropped him, what was it. 347 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 2: It was a double jab which you used to close 348 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: the distance, and then it was the left behind it. 349 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: So he was actually staying far enough away where he 350 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: needed that. 351 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: Kind of thing. 352 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: But at the same time, Parier was not exactly the 353 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: same kind of threats to make Connor feel that way. 354 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: I was a Connor that was, you know, in his 355 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: mind invincible. I really wonder does Connor feel like he's 356 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: invincible anymore? You know, I seriously doubt it. And the 357 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: one who fought Paria the first time thought that. I mean, 358 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: he just probably thought he could not lose, and so 359 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: so there to me, I don't think he thinks that 360 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: he can't win. I don't think that's the case. But 361 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: like he has to be that does he have to 362 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: be more careful? I bet he wrestles with that, and 363 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: that might be impacting his style as well. 364 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: I think no that that this is all legit stuff 365 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: where you know, when when I'm when we make comments 366 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 4: like maybe the game has passed him by it. He 367 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 4: hasn't evolved his style up to that standards. He hasn't 368 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: been as consistent and busy to keep everything loose and 369 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: up to possible speed. That all is part of it too, 370 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 4: but a lot of it is the mental game. Luke, 371 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 4: can he be the same fighter if he has to 372 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: rally in fights as a baseline? If if if he 373 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 4: I mean, look, we have three we have three fights 374 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: of evidence of him in the UFC at lightweight. Where 375 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: do you think his power stands? Because he lives and 376 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: dies by the threat of his power. Can you give 377 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 4: a proper referendum up to this point? I mean, is 378 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 4: he a how how much does his threat of being 379 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 4: a bigger man that can knock you out dissipate Going 380 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: from featherweight to lightweight, Obviously there's a change. Do you 381 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 4: think it's more dramatic than we realize. 382 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: It might be? 383 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: Because if you remember, he went from the Aldo fight 384 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 2: thirteen seconds, just like no one had ever done that 385 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: to Aldo, and then he went and did that to Alvarez, 386 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: and Alvarez had lost, even lost kind of badly before, 387 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: but that was like a humiliation. 388 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just crazy what he was able 389 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: to do. 390 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: But when you go back to both of those, the 391 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: timing on the Aldo one was just, I mean, the 392 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: most impeccable, plus you know, to what extent was Aldo 393 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 2: exercising enough restraint? We've been over that a million times. 394 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: And the Alvarez one, he was just catching the guy 395 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: when he wasn't seeing the punches, you know, which we 396 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: talked about before, which is when they land the most. 397 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: But like straight up power. Now, Poarier did acknowledge in 398 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 2: this contest he got hit with one that kind of 399 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 2: buzzed him a little bit. So I do think Connor 400 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: can still knock out guys at this weight class, But 401 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: the idea that he'd have the same dominant left, I 402 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: think that needs to be revised. 403 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 4: And I want you to keep going, But I wanted 404 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 4: to say, I think it was that right hook Connor landed. 405 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: That was the big one. He set it up with 406 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 4: a left cross. But do you remember he came up 407 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: with a right hook and Dustin almost did a dance 408 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 4: for a second. I think it was because it was 409 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: a shot he didn't see coming. It came off of 410 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 4: a hard left hand. So you know, that's the perfect 411 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 4: type of shot that you can get somebody in trouble with. 412 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: That's still in play up to this point. But is 413 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 4: he a threat to just buzz you with one and 414 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 4: end you there? I don't know. I don't know what like. 415 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 2: So here's the other part, Like if he went back 416 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: to the other stands sort of the open style karate 417 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: stance or whatever, further away again, as fights went on, 418 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: he kind of abandoned it, first of all, and then 419 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: second of all, it's like, yes, there are ways where 420 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: if you were further apart and you could move out 421 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: of the way of leg kicks, but you might still 422 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: be vulnerable to them. If you're sort of wide based 423 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: and hunker down a little bit. That's still a way 424 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: to get absolutely drilled with leg kicks. That's not per 425 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: se the antidote the bigger distance might be. But like 426 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 2: every styles got pluses and minuses. I think the argument 427 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: is if Connor is out at distance and he's throwing 428 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: kicks and he's using all of his dynamic tricks, dude, 429 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: he's a handful, and there's no denying he's a handful. 430 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 2: But that thing that he tried, and maybe it was 431 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: because of one seventy, but the way he did that, 432 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 2: it really fucked him up against Diaz, and I think 433 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: he learned a hard lesson there. The one thing I 434 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: will say BC that is missing, like, is Connor like 435 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: a radical departure from what he was? No, I don't 436 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 2: believe that, But there was some stuff missing. So for example, 437 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 2: what did you see in the second DS fight. You 438 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: did not see a lot of here again South Paul 439 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: and South Paul one. You saw a couple of the 440 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: outside low kicks, but he was hammering Diaz with those, 441 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: and by the way he was hammering Poitier for as 442 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 2: often as he threw them, but it was not very much. 443 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: But it was the other one. It was the front pushkick, 444 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: the teaps to the gut. Those have always been a 445 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: big part of his game. They were big against Alvarez, 446 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: they were big against Nate, and they were nowhere to 447 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: be seen in this fight. So to me, it's like 448 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: that's a big key weapon he used to keep distance, 449 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 2: to hurt guys, to slow him down, set up all 450 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: kinds of offense, and he just went away from it here. 451 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: And I think if people want to point out to 452 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: like what's missing, that was a big ingredient that I 453 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: think was missing in retrospect. 454 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, he also had you know, beautiful sort of 455 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: lead jabs to the body in that second d as one, 456 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 4: which is almost out of the Mayweather school of you know, 457 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: as you're attacking, component is coming in just time them 458 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: perfectly constantly put him in a spot of backing up. 459 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: You know, we didn't see any of that, and maybe 460 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: that is is a combination of Pourier being more of 461 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: a threat to take him down. It's worth debating, but 462 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: I wanted to quickly do the talk radio reaction with 463 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: you here. You know, if if an NFL team loses 464 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 4: in the championship game when they had Super Bowl hopes 465 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 4: Monday morning, they're going to be, you know, debating whether 466 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: it's a call for the coach's throat, whether that's fair 467 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: or fair or not. So let's talk about this. Connor 468 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: McGregor has been with you know, SBG from the begin right, 469 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: it's been a great camp for him and a great 470 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: group of coaches. But it's not abnormal, especially in boxing, 471 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: but but even in MMA for a superstar fighter to 472 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: hit a rut and then change camps, get a different perspective, uh, 473 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 4: you know, get add some tools and tricks to the trade. 474 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 4: Is it time? Is it time for contor McGregor to say, 475 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: you know, I'm not firing you guys, but what about 476 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 4: if we bring in coach Whitman as a consultant right here? 477 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: What about if we, you know, do two weeks of 478 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 4: camp at Jackson's. Are you thinking any of that is 479 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 4: not necessarily in order from a panic perspective, but from 480 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: a you should really think about this to try to 481 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 4: evolve your game. 482 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: I think you know, he he already did that, right, 483 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: He brought in this sort of guy who who's played 484 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 2: a role in his life earlier that he brought him back, 485 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: the guy who was. 486 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 4: From the youth boxing coach. That's great, Okay, youth boxing 487 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 4: coach is great, But there are genius minds out there. 488 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 4: What if we set him down to your boys down 489 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: there at at at Old City Cakillac. 490 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Okay, come on, yeah, I mean I think Trevor Whitman 491 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 2: even like a Henry Hoof, like a guy who's got 492 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: like a real offensive mind, you know, like hard kind of. 493 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a directed you know, Henry Hoof 494 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: is the example of the Dutch style and he's nothing else, 495 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: but I mean, you know someone's got a little bit 496 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: that Dutch mentality right in there. Something like that I 497 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: think would be quite beneficial for him. Yes, you know, 498 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: his jiu jitsu got better after the DS fight, you 499 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: know when they brought in I think he had him 500 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: in there, maybe even before Ryan Hall trained with Connor MacGregor. 501 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: Folks forget that he was brought in and then eventually 502 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: Dylan Danis, so you know, those guys have only done 503 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: good things for him. I think getting another mind in 504 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: there who's got a real you know, is John Kavanov 505 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: the best mind for everything in Mma, in every phase 506 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 2: of the game. 507 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 3: I don't know. 508 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's a reasonable statement. I mean, 509 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: obviously he's quite talented, but is he the best guy 510 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: or the only guy to give Connor looks and striking? 511 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: You know, bringing in someone who's got some real modern 512 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: ideas like a Whitman or somebody else, how could it hurt? 513 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: I just don't understand. 514 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 4: We're talking about a guy who we are deeming as 515 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: his career has gone on to become a little bit 516 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: too one dimensional. The problem is that one dimension was great, Luke. Right, 517 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: if you're an absolute dirthole, if you're Harvey Weinstein and 518 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: your one dimension for years of picking up women involves 519 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 4: an empty office of couch and you're going from zero 520 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: to ball bag as soon as the door closes, and 521 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 4: it keeps working for you for a long time. That 522 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: becomes good and bad, Luke. The bad is eventually you're 523 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: gonna end up in jail and be a laughing stock 524 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: after ruining many women's lives. But you don't have to 525 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: evolve your game to pick up women. Connor was too 526 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 4: successful with that one side of his game. God, I 527 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 4: didn't even move it. No facial expert. What a hell. 528 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: That's a hell of a no sell from Thomas right there. 529 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 4: What if we didn't try to make him a wrestler 530 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 4: to round him out, But to the point you made 531 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: about hoofed or somebody like that, make him a kickboxer again, 532 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 4: because that was a calling card for the first third 533 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 4: of his UFC run. He was unpredictable. He would open 534 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: fights with spinning with fake spinning wheel kicks. I mean, 535 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 4: you really never knew what was coming. 536 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 6: Luke. 537 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 4: This is it's a yes and no panic situation. It's 538 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 4: a turning point right now. We're at a crossroads commercially 539 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: and in terms of whether he can be elite in 540 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: terms of where McGregor's going. He's young enough, he doesn't 541 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: have a ton of damage in recent years, so it's 542 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: not panic time. But you gotta get somebody in there 543 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: who's gonna take a strength he already has and develop 544 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: it and let it bloom. And I love those guys 545 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 4: in there at SBG Man. They look like great nineteen 546 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: thirties barbers. For the Mayweather fight, right it was a 547 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: nice fashion choice. But either this guy's not listening and 548 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: they're not coming up with anything creative. Let's let's shock 549 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 4: the system. If you're in team McGregor and try to 550 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 4: do this. Look what Witman did in one camp with 551 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 4: Usman Luke still stands out to me. 552 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: And of course all the work he's done with Getchie, 553 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: when Getchee decided to make a change after a loss 554 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 2: as well, right Rose, when. 555 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: He ahead of the first you want to fight, when 556 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 4: he turned Rows into a championship boxer. Basically, I mean 557 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: that's incredible. 558 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they always say win or learn. Okay, well, 559 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: it sounds like it's time to learn, That's what it 560 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: sounds like. It's time for me, So I would love 561 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: to see it. So again, you know, did Connor change 562 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: his style? There are some things to me that have degraded. 563 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: But I also think there are a lot of circumstances 564 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: here between the stance of Parier, his ability to land 565 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: and get out of the way, blah blah blah that 566 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: make it not as much necessarily as people want to 567 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: make it out to be. All right, let's go to 568 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: topic number two. The middleweight division is on fire now. 569 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 2: It turns out that the champion in that way class 570 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: is going to go up in March and try to 571 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: become another champ Champ. But in the meantime, while the 572 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: champ is away, the contenders will play BC two fights 573 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: that were announced a week apart, one on April tenth 574 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: and one on April seventeenth. I want to give both 575 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 2: the way and we'll talk about each individually and then 576 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,719 Speaker 2: how they match up together. But first things first. On 577 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: April tenth, Darren Till will fight marv in Ventori. On 578 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 2: April seventeenth, Robert Whittaker versus Paulo Costa. Let's start with 579 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 2: the first one, then we'll get to the second, and 580 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: then how they match up together. Till versus VATORI your 581 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 2: initial impressions. 582 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 4: Love it, Love it for so many reasons. But Tory, look, Luke, 583 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: if ad Asnia stays the champion, he's gonna have a 584 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 4: shorter path to get to the title shot. I believe 585 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 4: because of the history of him having given is he 586 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: a close fight, But either way, that big win he's 587 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: coming off of really screamed. Let's get him into a 588 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 4: top five opponent. Let's get him in there with a name. 589 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 4: Let's give him the platform to make a statement and 590 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 4: truly prove that he is elite. This is that fight, 591 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: and it's also kind of a you know, I mean, 592 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 4: look how many more of these dar until high and 593 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: low moments looks good in one fight gets beaten another 594 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: before we sort of wonder whether he ever was that dude. 595 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 4: This is one of those important fights in his run 596 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 4: where he's got to beat for Tory and he's got 597 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 4: to stay relevant in this title discussion here, Luke, because 598 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 4: he's young enough and there's a ton of ability there. 599 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: I just haven't seen the consistency of it. This is 600 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: such an important fight for both of them. That's when 601 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: you breed the hunger, that's when you make great fights. 602 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 4: I cannot wait for this one, Luke. Tell me something 603 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: about it that you love. 604 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Till has had some nice win but 605 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: he's had a lot of reputational boosting that needs to 606 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: be married by wins. We need to see some real wins. 607 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 2: And of course he's had some wins recently as well. 608 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: But you know, coming off of that Robert Whitaker fight, 609 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: that was a very very very very close fight, but 610 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 2: obviously he did not get his hand raised there. And 611 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: Whittaker is going to be you know, he's the number 612 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: one guy in that weight class, obviously because the champion 613 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 2: is unranked. So we're gonna see you know, Okay, well 614 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: you couldn't be Robert Whitaker. That may not be that 615 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: big a deal. Maybe you are still the future contender 616 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: in this division, or maybe all along as we've just said, 617 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: maybe it's Marvin Vettori, who started out a little rough 618 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: around the edges, but also twenty three years old. I 619 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: think he's about twenty seven to twenty eight now. I 620 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: mean he's barely even entering his prime. Here he is 621 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: in the top five. I think Till is ranked fourth, 622 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: and he's gonna be fighting for basically the winner of 623 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: this either has to fight one more or is going 624 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: to be the next contender behind the winner of the 625 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: other middleweight main event. So you got you know, Till 626 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: needs to prove that he is we think he is. 627 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: Vittori can absolutely shatter everyone's impression of who he thought 628 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: he is, and that you know, that fight against Otto 629 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: Signer the first time was no fluke, even though he 630 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: was very much an undeveloped product at the time. I 631 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: love this contest, and you got Vittri, who I think 632 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: has some real skills. Won't get me wrong, but till 633 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be a little bit more of the 634 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: finesser of the two. So it's a little bit of 635 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: brute force versus finessing. It's a little bit unfair, but 636 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 2: there is something to that. So I love the style contrast. 637 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: I love everything about this fight. I can't wait to 638 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 2: see it. 639 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 4: Look and matches I Vittore's corner. Would you, even though 640 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 4: you need to be well rounded to get to the 641 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: top and win a title, he's so fun and aggressive 642 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 4: and powerful when he fights like sloth from the Goonies? 643 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 4: Would you just keep unleashing them on people? 644 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: I think he's got enough smarts where you don't have to. 645 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: I don't think it's really either or. I mean, if 646 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: it came down to it and there was a round 647 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: that you had to win with the guy and you said, listen, guy, 648 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: you need to just bite on the mouthpiece and go 649 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: this time, this is the time. I would trust him 650 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: to be that guy, and I would trust him to 651 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: do well. But I don't think you need to play 652 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: that card until it's absolutely necessary. And that's true for 653 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: a lot of fight, understand, But I mean, if you 654 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 2: needed him to be the bite down on the mouthpiece guy. 655 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: That's not a hard departure for him. That's not a 656 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 2: huge that's not a deep recess in his mind. He 657 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: has to like will himself to go. I think he 658 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: can flip that switch pretty easily. But I also believe, 659 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: you know, working with hatfel Cordero, Dude, he has worked 660 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: on his game. He's got interesting setups. He can strike 661 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: a little bit. He's well rounded. He's big and fucking 662 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: strong for the weight class. Dude, he's a handful. I 663 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: can't wait to see how he does in this fight. Now, 664 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: it leads me to the other one BC, which is 665 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: a little bit more interesting. Sitting at number one is 666 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: Robert Whitaker. Sitting at number two is Paulo Costa. Both 667 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: of them have a loss to the champion, so they're 668 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: going to fight each other. Your sense of Whittaker versus Costa? 669 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 4: What do I do, Luke? Back in the early two thousands, 670 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: when I show up at a stag or a bachelor party, Luke, 671 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 4: get me, Yeah, somebody get me a brown paper bag, 672 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 4: some really gross magazines, and a giant sharpie so I 673 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 4: can write bag o porn on the outside, Luke. Outside 674 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 4: of how important the this fight is this fight is 675 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 4: going to bang. I love the shit out of this matchup, 676 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 4: but obviously, when you sprinkle on top the sauce that 677 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: is the winner is probably fighting for a title. And 678 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: if you're Costa and you go in there guns blazing 679 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 4: and you lose to you know, arguably the best middleweight 680 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: in the game here in Whittaker, who's right in that discussion, 681 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 4: that's two in a row against the two best. I mean, 682 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: that's a somewhat damaging turn of events for you, and 683 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: just the same for Whittaker, you know, trying to rebuild 684 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 4: and get back into that rematch without assigny after such 685 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: a disappointing way of losing that fight, whether he was 686 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 4: damaged goods during that run or not, or whether that 687 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 4: was a straight up fight. You gotta beat an animal 688 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 4: who is looking to come at you after laying an egg. Look, 689 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 4: this thing is going to be freaking explosive, and even 690 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 4: though Whittaker has certain advantages in IQ technique, he may 691 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 4: have to just in everything and in so many things 692 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 4: right outside of maybe just explosive force, good luck and 693 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: his body being a wonderland over there in Brazil. I still, 694 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: you know, he stayed, He still might have to fight 695 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 4: like victory to win this, right, and that's what you want. 696 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: This is a fight night made event. This is a 697 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: free fight. Look strap it on, brother, Let's do this 698 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: fight right. 699 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta tell you. It's like imagine being 700 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: the guy you lost to Izzy, and you lost pretty thoroughly. 701 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: Remember he got dropped in the first round by Izzy, 702 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: and then he got just completely finished off in the 703 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: second at a sign You ended up making it look 704 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: kind of easy in the end, and you had to 705 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: get a road back to the title. Now realized some 706 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: of this was before that, but in the end, before 707 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: you were ready for a second fight with Izzy on 708 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: your resume, you had to five rounders with Jol Romero. 709 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: I get the hem before the easy fight. I'm just 710 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 2: saying it's part of that. And then to get the rematch, 711 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: you had to beat paul A Costa, the guy who 712 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: beat Joel Romero, who's a physical beast who. 713 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 4: Beat Cannon ear Bro. After beating cannonear I mean, this 714 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: is this is a. 715 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: And and til and till. It's crazy. It's crazy he is. 716 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he's doing things at middleweight. You thought, what 717 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: atta signa? I mean, listen, Ada Signya's run is the 718 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: best run for all the reasons that we know. But boy, 719 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you this is not as much of 720 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: a distance second as folks might imagine. I mean, that 721 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: is a remarkable thing. If he gets through paul A Costa, 722 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: excuse me, at that point, number one, you could never 723 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: deny this guy a title shot. I mean, at that point, 724 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: you have to give that guy a title shot fucking 725 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: immediately or whenever he's ready. And then number two, dude, 726 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: put some fucking respect on Robert Whitaker's name because if 727 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 2: he wins that fight. You got to remember, people were, 728 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: I think somewhat rightly worried that he was a little 729 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: bit banged up after ten rounds with jol Romero going 730 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: into that Atta Signa fight, looking all fucked up, especially 731 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: with the time off, since the since the time off 732 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: and getting right after the loss with Izzy, He's had 733 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: certainly some you know, some tense moments here or there, 734 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: but he's found a way to gut it out. He's 735 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: looks pretty incredible. He looks smart, and he does not 736 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: look brittle. I think that's the key. Folks thought he 737 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: was kind of done physically. Boy, that is not true. 738 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: At all. 739 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: But a guy like Paulo Costa with any kind of 740 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: physical weaknesses, he's gonna tear your ass up. On the 741 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: Costa side, BC, I want to see what like lingering 742 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: if there are any lingering mental issues about Frankly, a 743 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: pretty humiliating defeat, and then the champion took to social 744 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 2: media in every interview possible to degrade you afterwards. Are 745 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: you worrying about a little bit? 746 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: You know, he also rode your ass after he beat you, too, right, 747 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: I mean this is like, yeah, we really could see 748 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: an absurdly dangerous and destructive And look at that picture 749 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: right there, he's we went from handsome to angry with 750 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 4: one move of his mouth. Luke, this guy is ready 751 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: to get it. Looks it's all part of what makes 752 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 4: this fight so great. And when we're talking about Whittaker, Luke, maybe, 753 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 4: with the exception of John Jones, would you say Whittaker 754 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 4: is the best fighter in the UFC who is currently 755 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: not a champion? 756 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: What would you say? 757 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: Maybe? Max? 758 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: Maybe? 759 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: Max? 760 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 761 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's a it's a tough call, but certainly 762 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: if you're making a top three, them boys are on it, 763 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 764 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Damn Right, I mean, look, you got a favorite 765 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: Whittaker here, but you're favoring him, saying sir, I know 766 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 4: you're used to this, but you're gonna have to walk 767 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 4: through hell to win this fight. 768 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: So good luck to you, all right, dude not? I mean, 769 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 2: can you imagine the resume on that guy? What are 770 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: you gonna say, Oh, he didn't fight the best of 771 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: his generation, motherfucker. He fought him a few times. I mean, 772 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 2: it's crazy how good his resume is gonna look, win 773 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: or lose, To be quite honest with you, and if 774 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: he wins, oh my god, I mean, dude, you would 775 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: have if you didn't have respect for Robert Whittaker and 776 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 2: what he's been able to do after losing to wonder 777 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: Boy at one seventy, then going up to one eighty five, 778 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: and yeah, you know he stumbled against is he? No 779 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: doubt about it. Is he's a generationally special talent. But 780 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 2: then to go on a rebuild campaign like that BC. 781 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: We talk about it all the time, man, the guys 782 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: who really want it, they'll sty'll stumble, and then that 783 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: rebuild campaign. There are no easy fights, there are no 784 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 2: so easy outs, there's nothing, and they still find a 785 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: way to just one rung at a ladder at the time, 786 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: climb up like that. Dude, he's got that Dustin Poirier 787 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 2: in him, you know what I mean? 788 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, very similar to your career path after that show 789 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 4: with Craig Carton ended. You know you look at where 790 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: you are today, Luke. 791 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I wish I wish I had those paychecks again. 792 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 3: Good lord, they were nice. All right. 793 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: So we go from the most legitimate end of the 794 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: sport to perhaps it's least legitimate end. Topic number three. 795 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 2: Jake Paul is supposed to fight Ben Askern. I guess 796 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: it's not an exhibition. From what I understand, it is 797 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: a real boxing match. I think it's eight rounds April 798 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: seventeenth on Triller. These are the folks who put on 799 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 2: the exhibition about between Roy Jones Junior and Mike Tyson. Okay, BC, listen, man, 800 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: here's the thing. I if people want to watch it, 801 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 2: people are gonna watch it. I don't really know what 802 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 2: to make of it, because I could see a case 803 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: where it's Jake Paul absolutely starches him. I could see 804 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: a case where maybe we kind of slept on, you know, 805 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: Ben Askern a little bit, but probably not. 806 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 3: But who knows. 807 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't really know. I legitimately don't know, and I'm 808 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: being honest about it. I have no idea what to expect. 809 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: But I just cannot fake interest in this. 810 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: Where are you? 811 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 4: Not even but not even morbid interest, not even I. 812 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 2: Know, not really not really rotating piece of meat. You've 813 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: got a You've got a YouTube troll who is living 814 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: out a false identity against a guy who in his prime, 815 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 2: you know, Ben Asker, what are you gonna say, Dan 816 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: Hodge trophy winner, Olympian, two time in Z DOUBLEA. But 817 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 2: you know the guy is he had to retire, he 818 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: had a hip replacement. Striking was never his thing. 819 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 3: Uh you know, I don't know. 820 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 4: I think that adds to it. So here's the deal. 821 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 4: Let me let me be up there. 822 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: Does it? 823 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 2: Does it add to it? 824 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 3: Does it? Okay? 825 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 4: Am I circling this on the calendar compared to real fights? 826 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely not? But I get asked this all the time 827 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 4: on you know, radio or podcast appearances. You know, you're 828 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 4: a hardcore boxing guy. What do you think about all 829 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 4: these YouTubers moving? And I always say it there, Look, 830 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 4: boxing is is such a beautifully ridiculous platform where it 831 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 4: does kind of lend itself to this kind of celebrity bullshit. 832 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 4: It's fun as shit to see two guys go in 833 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 4: there and fight and see what happens, as long as 834 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 4: it's not on the same card as real fights, and 835 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 4: it's a separate attraction thing. And in this case, it's 836 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: not even like on diz own or anything. It's like 837 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 4: on a separate entity altogether. I would kind of rather 838 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 4: Jake Paul do this against somebody I know and kind 839 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 4: of have, you know, an emotional interest into a certain 840 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 4: degree in Ben Askrin, then that guy who's that guy? 841 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: And Easton Gibb. I don't know that guy is, Okay, 842 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 4: I don't want to who's the other guy? Some YouTuber 843 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm not on YouTube. I don't know 844 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 4: this bullshit. Give me at least a guy who's a 845 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 4: pro athlete, a combat athlete, who's kind of competing again 846 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 4: in a skill set that's not his strength. Look, this 847 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 4: is actually pretty good matchmaking. I'm really honest with you. 848 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna be into the weird 849 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 4: trash talk that we're gonna see heading in. I'm not 850 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 4: gonna go over overword and overboard and crazy, but I 851 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 4: don't know, this doesn't suck to me, Luke, Okay, I'm sorry. 852 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe what would suck to you? And I'm being serious, 853 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 2: like how bad does it have to before you're like, okay, 854 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 2: this sucks? 855 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 5: Well? 856 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: I mean this is close, right, But I'm just like, 857 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 4: you know, all things considered, am I gonna be the 858 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 4: guy who was like, don't watch that bullshit? 859 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 5: No? 860 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 4: Did you watch the Nate Robinson fight? It's pretty damn fun. 861 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 4: I mean, come on, we all sat there and watched 862 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 4: that weird Tyson card. 863 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: With It's fun. 864 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 2: It's fun and the have you seen this shit? 865 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: Way? 866 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: Not in the I'm gonna put down this, okay. 867 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 4: Look, to be honest with you, this is where I 868 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 4: put BKFC. There's a place for it. There are times 869 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 4: I tune into b KFC and I'm like, you know what, 870 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 4: it's not that bad. There are other times I tune 871 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: in and I'm like, you know, can these hillbillies? 872 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 5: You know? 873 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you know I'm going with that. So that's that, Luke. 874 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 4: All right, here's here's. 875 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 3: My feeling this. 876 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, I'm not making any of these apocalyptic claims. 877 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: This is terrible for the sport. We've been over this. 878 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: It's it's really not I don't buy that at all, 879 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 2: at least not. I mean, there's no evidence right now 880 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: that that's the case. I guess if things change, we 881 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 2: can reevaluate at that stage, but for now, there's no evidence, 882 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 2: you know. And it's a guy and Jake Paul who 883 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 2: is trying to be detestable and finding ways to do it, 884 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 2: pretending he's a profighter, maybe even thinking one. I don't 885 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 2: really know what he thinks internally. Listen, if people want 886 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 2: to buy that, okay, go buy it. And he's got 887 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 2: a big audience, and it's fine. I don't This is 888 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: not one of these you should not do this because 889 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,959 Speaker 2: it's bad if you do arguments. It's not what I'm saying, 890 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 2: but I just feel like, it's like, dude, how can 891 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 2: you if you're me and you watch a Holloway versus 892 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: a cater you know, or we're to you. We just 893 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 2: talked about Whitaker versus Costa or you know whatever, we 894 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: just saw what Dotin Poartier did to me. It's like, 895 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: I don't even know how your brain can process the 896 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: idea that Paul versus an Askrin boxing match is something 897 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 2: you'd want to see. 898 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I would be in favor of. 899 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 4: Trash talkers, Luke. They're trash talker. 900 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 2: I don't use and that matters to me, how much 901 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: you know. I'm again if it's for you. If you 902 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: were like, hey, it's not for me. 903 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 4: Well, if you were like, hey, BC, do you hear 904 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 4: the news Carl McGregor is going to sign up for 905 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 4: the ADX BBC Grappling Finale and Abu Dhabi it's the 906 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 4: best grapplers in the world. And oh, that movie star 907 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 4: from those martial arts movies is gonna be in it too. Dude, 908 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 4: I'm fired up for this. I'd be like, Luke, you know, 909 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 4: it's not really my thing, you know, I don't. You know. 910 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 4: It's like do I want to see Lebron James bowling? No, 911 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 4: I want to see him play basketball. I don't need 912 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 4: to see Connor McGregor rolling around on the ground. But 913 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 4: this has like, I mean, Askron could get knocked out 914 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: by a YouTuber. There's interest there, just like there's interest 915 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 4: in seeing that other, you know, the YouTuber get beat up. 916 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, but what does it say about us? 917 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 2: As I won't say you but what does it say 918 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 2: about us that Ben Askron might get knocked out by 919 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 2: a YouTuber is an intriguing thing. I mean, you gotta 920 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: be I mean, I mean the bottom of the barrel. 921 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 2: You're scraping there for that one. 922 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's fist fighting at the end of the day, 923 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 4: it's boxing. It's something I like. Right, They're not going 924 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 4: out and doing something that I don't. 925 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: Care about, so I kind of care. 926 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 4: I think you should too, Luke, because you know, Ben 927 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 4: Askern is a character you don't get. You don't you 928 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 4: should be into this and on team Asker and going, 929 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 4: you know what, end this charade? Okay, knock this guy out. 930 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 2: I mean maybe if this was the guy fighting in 931 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: belt or who was like running over with Lima and Kurechkov, 932 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 2: I might feel differently. But the dude retired. Striking was 933 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: never his thing, and he had a fucking hip replacement, 934 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: like you know, and I know he's feeling better, okay, 935 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: which is great. I mean I certainly I wish, you know, 936 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: there would be no degradation to his quality of life. 937 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: The knockout lost to mass with All was obviously pretty bad, 938 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 2: but in generally did not take hardly any punishment in 939 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 2: his career, Like, yeah, okay, and again, the sky is 940 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 2: not falling. It's not falling. I'm not suggesting the skuy's falling. 941 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: But it's like, on some level, do you like watching 942 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 2: good movies or bad? And okay, sometimes you can watch 943 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: a bad movie. 944 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 4: But taking a bad movie there's Tyron Woodley. 945 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it's like, dude, I'm not gonna call 946 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 2: Transformers a good movie. I'm just gonna skip it and 947 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: let you know, thirteen year olds go watch, which sounds 948 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: pretty similar to what's happening here. 949 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 4: All right, Luke Well, speaking of the Paul brothers, can 950 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 4: we transition to the next part of this? 951 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this part I didn't pick up on, but apparently 952 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 2: you're all over this one. So what happened with the 953 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 2: other Paul brother Logan Paul starting. 954 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 4: Look Logan Paul Floyd Mayweather is still supposed to be 955 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 4: a boxing match, and it's still supposed to take place 956 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 4: February twentieth. Now, just for understanding there, there's competition that 957 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 4: night that's supposedly the comeback bout for Adrian Broner on Showtime. 958 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: It's also Top Rank's got a hell a good all 959 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 4: action fight with Miguel Burchell in Oscar Valdez that night 960 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 4: on ESPN to gularification. 961 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 2: Clarification, is the Broner about on pay per view or 962 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 2: just regular showtime? 963 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 4: Regular showtime? He doesn't have a oppony yet. The first 964 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 4: guy fell out according to reports. Now, I don't know 965 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 4: if that means this Floyd fight would happen in Asia 966 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 4: or something during the day, but this is all getting weird. 967 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 4: There's been a lot of chatter online about like, is 968 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 4: this fight even happening? We're not hearing anyone talk about it. 969 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 4: So Logan Paul did an interview. I'm not sure with 970 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 4: which outlet, but here's the interview. Okay. Logan Paul laughed 971 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 4: at the narrative that the fight had been delayed due 972 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: to lack of interest, citing the fact that attention has 973 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 4: been on the bout for a while. Now here's his quote. 974 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 4: There hasn't been a fight that's made this much noise 975 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 4: for the whole year. Bro. Just releasing this shit went 976 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 4: viral as fuck. He went on to explain that there 977 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 4: are complications fighting someone of high caliber, but that the 978 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 4: match is very much still ago. Applications are that when 979 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 4: you're dealing with someone like Floyd, who is the most desired, 980 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 4: highest paid fighter on the planet, and he operates at 981 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,800 Speaker 4: a certain caliber, and the people around him want to 982 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 4: make sure their talent is performing at a certain level. 983 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 4: There are a lot of hoops to jump through. But yeah, no, 984 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 4: I'm still gonna beat the shit out of Floyd Medweather. 985 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 4: Maybe he's gonna beat the shit out of me, who knows. 986 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 4: But the point is it's still going to happen. Look, 987 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 4: that's not an encouraging response where I come from. What 988 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 4: is he talking about that certain athletes of that caliber 989 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,439 Speaker 4: need to Is he trying to say that both guys 990 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 4: need to cycle through you know, a handful of horse tranquilizers? First, 991 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 4: what do we go? What is happening now? 992 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 3: I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. 993 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. There were reports coming out that it 994 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: had been canceled to your port, to your part, and 995 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 2: so he had to address it. I remember when they 996 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: announced it. Remember like, oh, if you buy the pay 997 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 2: per view now, it's cheap, and then the closer you 998 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 2: get to it, it'll get more expensive. And that was 999 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: a little of a curious thing. We'll see how that goes. 1000 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: And I remember folks asking me it's like, wow, did 1001 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 2: they change the game again? And I'm like, well, we 1002 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: don't know. We have to see what the results are like, 1003 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 2: and then once the results are in, we'll make an 1004 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: evaluation as to whether or not this was a successful model. 1005 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 2: And by the way, even if that model works out 1006 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: one time, you got to see it a bunch of 1007 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,479 Speaker 2: times before you can say whether it works or whether 1008 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: it doesn't. I don't know what the reason is. 1009 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 4: Three weeks out, dude, We're three weeks out and the 1010 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 4: only promotion for this fight has been like Floyd putting 1011 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 4: out a Instagram thing saying it's going to happen right, Like, 1012 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 4: where's the press conference of those two arguing? Where's the 1013 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 4: footage of them training? Where is information on what network 1014 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 4: and what where it's going to be held? Like, dude, 1015 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 4: you don't wait until three weeks before, like what you're 1016 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 4: telling me this thing's happening? Like can I get a 1017 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 4: little bit of proof here? 1018 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1019 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: And also it's like maybe that business model where you 1020 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 2: buy early and then it gets more expensive late doesn't 1021 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:48,959 Speaker 2: actually work. 1022 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 3: We'll have again, we don't know. 1023 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: We have to see, but at least this particular case, 1024 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 2: maybe they're not getting the returns that they thought they 1025 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: were going to get because maybe they thought they were 1026 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 2: going to get a bunch of money on the front 1027 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: end and that was how they were going to pay themselves. 1028 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 2: And now they don't have that. I don't know, but 1029 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: I am. I'll tell you this much. If it doesn't 1030 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 2: happen BC, the world will still keep turning tomorrow. 1031 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 3: It is okay. 1032 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 4: Did you see that Floyd was in the TMZ headlines 1033 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 4: for having become engaged with one of his dancers at 1034 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 4: a girl collection? 1035 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 5: No? 1036 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 3: I did not. 1037 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 4: If that's the case, congratulations Floyd, Right. 1038 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,399 Speaker 3: Sure, all right? 1039 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 2: Topic number four and this is a bad one. I 1040 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 2: don't even know what to say about it anymore. I mean, 1041 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 2: the guys had a number of issues. But BJ Penn, 1042 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 2: the former UFC walterweight and lightweight champion, has been arrested 1043 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: again and has been arrested for DUI or allegedly d 1044 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 2: obviously innocentil proven guilty, But there's video of it. You 1045 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: can see him. He was driving a truck and I 1046 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 2: guess he was on someone else's property and then they 1047 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 2: called the cops on him. You got to remember, this 1048 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: guy is involved in a paternity suit. He's got a 1049 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 2: number of other issues related to crimes resulting from violent 1050 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 2: action resulting from drinking fighting in public. He was arrested 1051 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 2: previously on suspicion of dui when his car was crashed. 1052 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 2: I believe so he has got I mean, his life 1053 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 2: is a mess. I mean, let's just call it what 1054 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 2: it is. His life is a mess and the guy 1055 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: needs help now. Credit to Eric Jackman, New York. Rick 1056 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 2: is what they call him. I believe he was a 1057 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 2: long time producer for Aril Halwane. I think he does 1058 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: work at ESPN. But whatever the case, he was trying 1059 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: to take to social media being like this and one 1060 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 2: haven't any ideas about what we can actually do to 1061 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,439 Speaker 2: help this guy because this is a slow motion train crash. BC, 1062 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 2: you what can you even say about it at. 1063 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 4: This point that you know, this transition to regular life 1064 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,959 Speaker 4: is obviously going horrifically and if it doesn't end soon 1065 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,319 Speaker 4: from the standpoint of stepping in, it's gonna end soon, 1066 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,840 Speaker 4: and that's sad. So we don't know obviously what UFC 1067 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 4: has attempted to do behind the scenes, and they could 1068 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 4: be doing great attempts that have gone nowhere, but if 1069 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 4: they haven't, it is one million percent time UFC jumps, 1070 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:00,800 Speaker 4: and this is one of those situations. 1071 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 2: What could if he doesn't want help, what can they do? 1072 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 4: You're right, if he doesn't want to have help. At 1073 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 4: the end of the day, he's a he's an adult, 1074 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,280 Speaker 4: he's a grown man. He's gonna deal with the repercussions 1075 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 4: of the laws he breaks and all that. But when 1076 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 4: we talk about how they've paid certain fighters in the past, 1077 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 4: even Spencer Fisher getting a you know, behind the scenes, 1078 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 4: hush hush monthly stipend, this would be the situation where 1079 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 4: you take care of one. 1080 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 5: Of your all time great warriors, a guy who hung 1081 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 5: on way too long, and really UFC kind of enabled 1082 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 5: that hanging on with allowing him to go on a 1083 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 5: run of like eight defeats in which you know, everyone's 1084 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 5: saying why is he fighting and Dana saying, I don't know. 1085 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 4: He keeps calling me and it's just hard to say no. 1086 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 4: You know, maybe that was some form of charity from 1087 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 4: Dana to try to give him some paydays. But now 1088 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 4: it's the full blown time to step in in a 1089 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,720 Speaker 4: man's life. And and you know, if it's not the UFC, 1090 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 4: then those closest to him because you know, it's gonna 1091 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 4: end bad. You just hope it doesn't end bad, A 1092 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 4: and B it doesn't take other people down with him, 1093 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 4: because we're at that point, Luke. I mean, look, I've 1094 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 4: I've cracked a few nods that you know is unbeaten, 1095 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 4: run in the parking lot of uh Hawaiian establishments right now, 1096 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 4: getting into physics fights. But that's insanely sad that that 1097 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 4: he is even happening. I mean that that's you know, 1098 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 4: that's where we're at here. And now you get into 1099 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 4: duy territory, you get into Look, you get into the 1100 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 4: potential endgame, Luke. That is not uncommon in sports that 1101 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 4: have high rates of CTE, which can be suicide or murder. 1102 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 2: So, uh, let's try to get a hand crashing a car. 1103 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, there's there's some there's there's a 1104 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 4: lot of ways that this goes really bad. But now 1105 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 4: is the time to not fear anything. And if you're 1106 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 4: close to him, or if you're the UFC and you 1107 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 4: have an inn, get there, get him, get him the 1108 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 4: best you can't cleaned up and taken care of, and 1109 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 4: provide some type of uh you know, positive transition out 1110 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 4: of the fight game into the rest of his life, 1111 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 4: because this seems right now, you know, maybe like some 1112 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 4: kind of avoidance of that, which is natural for anyone 1113 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 4: who has had such a high profile run in something 1114 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 4: in which they're defined by that, and then it comes 1115 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 4: to an end. And uh, you know, I don't want 1116 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 4: that headline to pop up, But we're at the point, 1117 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 4: Luke where it's it feels inevitable. So yeah, shout out 1118 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 4: to New York Rick. Is there anything any of us 1119 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 4: can do? I mean seriously, like, is there anything else? 1120 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 4: Like this guy is one of our heroes, rightfully, so 1121 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 4: like an amazing foundational piece in what we do today, 1122 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 4: right in this sport. So please, if there's anyone out 1123 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 4: there that can't do it, do it. 1124 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 3: I'm going to add two things. 1125 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 2: One, I remember when when these problems first began to emerge, 1126 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 2: usually was revolved around fighting, like fist fighting, and I 1127 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: remember being like, this is just how Hawaiians are, and 1128 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 2: it's like, yes, there might be a bit of a 1129 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: culture of especially among the youth of men, to you know, 1130 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 2: handle disputes a little bit differently, But the idea that 1131 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 2: like doing that as a grown man after fighting, you know, 1132 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 2: probably intoxicated, catching it on film, because he's had a 1133 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 2: number of fights right outside of strip clubs, outside the 1134 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,959 Speaker 2: Lava Shack, you know, just which is just embarrassing to say. 1135 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 2: You know, that's not what Hawaiians do. That's what dudes 1136 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 2: who are in trouble and have substance abuse problems to 1137 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 2: number one. Number two. I remember when he had the fight. 1138 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 2: I think it was the rematch against Saint Pierre, and 1139 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 2: it made for a killer sales line, which was you know, birds, 1140 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 2: fly fish, swim eye fight, and it was like, this 1141 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 2: is this is what I was born to do, This 1142 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: is all I know how to do, this is what 1143 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm good at. It's like maybe in retrospect, I don't 1144 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 2: blame UFC for using it. It's not what I'm saying, 1145 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 2: But what I am saying is maybe in retrospect that 1146 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 2: was a bit of a red flag, Like if you 1147 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 2: define your identity as this is all you know how 1148 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 2: to do, you have a hard course correction coming. And 1149 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 2: you are looking at that in real time now he 1150 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 2: does not know how to transition to any other part 1151 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 2: of his life and clearly has deep, profound issues of 1152 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 2: all different manner of who knows, And I also, I 1153 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 2: just feel terrible for his kids, you know, as a 1154 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 2: brand as a relatively brand new father, your dad as well. 1155 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 2: You know, those kids need him in his life and 1156 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: he needs to be in their life. And I'm sure 1157 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 2: on some level that he wants to be. But in 1158 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 2: this state you really can't be. It's just a it's 1159 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 2: a it's a it's a tragedy, it's a legitimate. 1160 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 4: You're damn right, And I want to make a statement here, 1161 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 4: you know, being me being close with Rashad Evans, haven't 1162 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 4: done a podcast and work with him for years, and 1163 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 4: such a genuine guy. The stuff he says about the 1164 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 4: effectiveness and impact that you know, psychloedelic drugs can have 1165 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 4: on you from a medicinal standpoint, for PTSD, for all that. 1166 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 4: I mean, he's gone deep on it, whether it's been 1167 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 4: on Rogan or times with me in the podcast, or 1168 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 4: if you just talk to him off camera. He's right 1169 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 4: on so many things. You know, Rashad has been very 1170 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 4: open that what has made him successful as a fighter 1171 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 4: in his prime, Luke was a lot of times suppressing 1172 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 4: pain from your youth, right. I mean, look, we always 1173 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 4: say fighters are different people, right, They're warriors. They're willing 1174 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 4: to go in there and you know, risk danger and 1175 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,439 Speaker 4: enjoy it and welcome it. And sometimes that's just Wow, 1176 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: there's this person who's really good at this one skill 1177 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: and they want to test themselves on a world level. 1178 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 4: Then other times it's you know, maybe they're a little sick, 1179 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 4: or maybe they're running from something, you know, and Rashad 1180 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 4: to be able to say the level of humility and 1181 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,360 Speaker 4: peace he found from going through that. You know, we're 1182 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 4: starting to see these type of you know, controlled medicinal 1183 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 4: drug tactics being done with war veterans and with you 1184 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 4: know a lot of different people. Look, fighters are war 1185 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 4: veterans in their own way. So if this is something 1186 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,720 Speaker 4: bj Penn hasn't tried, I know Dana White has spoken 1187 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 4: out in support of, you know, even UFC going in 1188 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 4: the direction of embracing this type of healing for their 1189 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 4: ex fighters. This would be a great time for that, Luke, 1190 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 4: because obviously there's some level of what you said, some 1191 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,200 Speaker 4: profound pain that may have ended up fueling Bjpenn's greatness, 1192 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 4: but certainly now it needs to be dealt with. 1193 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, now it is. 1194 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: I hate to say it this way, BC, and I 1195 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 2: hope it doesn't come to this, but as it stands 1196 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: today as we speak right now, it is expediting his demise, 1197 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 2: so I hope we can avoid that, have another course 1198 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 2: correction on the positive side. All right, Last, but not least, BC, 1199 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 2: this is a topic I know close to your heart 1200 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: because you still believe in the foolishness of boxing and 1201 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 2: its architecture. Joe Joyce is apparently going to fight Alexander Yusik. Now, 1202 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 2: this is a big deal for a lot of reasons, 1203 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 2: not least of which PC, which you can tell us, 1204 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 2: is it has grand implications for your mega fight between 1205 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 2: Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua helped set this up for us. 1206 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,479 Speaker 4: So look after Anthony Joshua won his mandatory defense against 1207 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 4: Kubra Pulev to end twenty twenty, you know we were like, man, 1208 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 4: I cannot wait, let's make Joshua Fury happen. But we 1209 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 4: didn't echo the same positivity or optimism that Eddie Hearn 1210 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 4: and Bob Aarram had. Why because they both had mandatory 1211 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,720 Speaker 4: opponents in front of them. It looks like the powers 1212 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,719 Speaker 4: that be are starting to work together to clear this up. Now, 1213 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 4: let's sort this out. The most immediate mandatory that was 1214 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 4: gonna get in the way of this was the fact 1215 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 4: that Anthony Joshua needs to defend his WBO title against 1216 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 4: Alexander Ustik. If you don't remember him, he's Ukrainian, He's 1217 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,800 Speaker 4: in the Lomachenko camp. He's a former decorated Olympian and amateur, 1218 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,479 Speaker 4: and he won all four cruiserweight world title belts before 1219 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 4: moving up to heavyweight. It looked really good in that 1220 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 4: tough fight with Derek Tresa that he won, which was 1221 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 4: his first real heavyweight step up. Usak has agreed to 1222 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 4: step aside, getting hate us x amount of money to 1223 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 4: do that, and part of his step aside plan to 1224 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 4: allow Anthony Joshua to defend the WBO title against Fury, 1225 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 4: which would make the first time a heavyweight championship fight 1226 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 4: in the four belt era. I had all four belts 1227 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 4: at stake to give us an undisputed champion. What Usik 1228 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,240 Speaker 4: would do is fight Joe Joyce, the unbeaten British heavyweight 1229 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 4: who had that long awaited victory over Daniel Dubois and 1230 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 4: their fun fight a couple months back, for the vacant 1231 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 4: or interim or whatever bootleg secondary WBO title, which would 1232 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 4: essentially amount to they still have next This is a 1233 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 4: fantastic development. Now Fury still has a mandatory against was 1234 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 4: supposed to be Dillian White, right, but then White got 1235 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 4: knocked out by Povetkin. There was some uncertainty of their rematch, 1236 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 4: which has been since postponed to this spring. Would the 1237 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 4: mandatory be at stake? It looks like that situation is 1238 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 4: clearing itself up as well, Luke. There were comments in 1239 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 4: the last twenty four hours from Frank Warren, who's the 1240 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 4: co promoter of Tyson Fury along with Bob Aram, and 1241 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 4: from Eddie Hearn, who represents j that we are looking 1242 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 4: at June, maybe May, but most likely June for the 1243 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 4: first of what would be a two fight deal Tyson Fury, 1244 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 4: Anthony Joshua, all four titles at stake and the sites 1245 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 4: most likely the Middle East. I heard Saudi Arabia, Abu 1246 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,240 Speaker 4: Dhabi and some other places or in talks, and also 1247 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 4: the quote far East. Now I did hear at one 1248 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 4: point that Singapore was in play for this, Luke. If 1249 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 4: they can find a COVID friendly place, if they can 1250 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 4: even model what UFC has done in Abu Dhabi's and 1251 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 4: they can find a spot where you can have x 1252 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 4: amount of fans. There's a generous site fee being paid 1253 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 4: from these countries saying come get us, Luke, it's time 1254 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 4: to make this fight. This is very encouraging news where 1255 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 4: we're almost in February. If this fight is you know, 1256 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 4: three four months away in May, dude, this is what 1257 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,479 Speaker 4: we've been waiting for, right, this heavyweight renaissance of fun, 1258 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 4: playable characters who all want to fight each other. Well, 1259 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 4: now we're down to the finals of this tournament and 1260 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 4: it's Joshua. I think it's gonna happen, Luke. I think 1261 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,640 Speaker 4: it's gonna freaking happen. So why don't you get off 1262 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 4: your boxing sucks soapbox, all right, and why don't you 1263 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 4: get ready to enjoy this? 1264 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 3: Luke? Okay, I'll tell you what. 1265 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 2: If it happens in May or June, even let's say summer, 1266 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 2: I'll grant summer. I will dial back some of my 1267 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 2: cynicism about boxing. The sport itself is wonderful. The architecture 1268 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 2: is a mess. I was thinking about the other day, ABC. 1269 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 2: I mean part of the reason why I've been like, well, 1270 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,880 Speaker 2: what do I want for fighters in Mma? Do I 1271 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 2: want the aliac to be extended? Do I want a 1272 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,759 Speaker 2: union is because you're trying to figure out what's the 1273 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 2: best remedy for their situation. And I don't know what 1274 00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 2: the answer is in totality, but I have to tell you, 1275 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 2: based on some of the things that I've been experiencing 1276 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: in boxing as a return to covering it, I am 1277 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 2: more and more leaning towards getting a union because you 1278 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 2: would still have the ability for the UFC to make 1279 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,919 Speaker 2: the fights in conjunction with the fans interest. You start 1280 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 2: doing the things that boxing is doing, it's gonna get 1281 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 2: pretty hard, I feel like over time. So with that 1282 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 2: being said, you know this better than I do by 1283 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 2: a million miles. I would never suggest otherwise. If you 1284 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: think it's gonna happen in June, great, but it has. 1285 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 2: This entire episode has forced me to rethink what kind 1286 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,359 Speaker 2: of industry we should have in MN. I think fan 1287 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,479 Speaker 2: should think about that as well. 1288 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 4: And one more thing. If you remember a couple months 1289 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 4: back when Luke and I first had this talk after 1290 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 4: the Joshua win of could this fight happen? What of 1291 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 4: the hurdles? One other thing I said Luke was hold 1292 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 4: on Joshua fights for his own Last time I checked, right, 1293 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 4: Fury fights for ESPN. That's a male and female end 1294 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 4: that don't connect once pay per view one is streaming. 1295 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 4: But I think we saw when Canelo made that comeback 1296 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 4: against Callum Smith on his own and they secretly sort 1297 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 4: of announced that bundle pay per view plan which was 1298 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 4: by this pay per view for regular price, get four 1299 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 4: months of Dezone with it. It showed you that that's 1300 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 4: a smart pivot by dez Owne knowing that yes, they 1301 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 4: still want to be this. They're not doing the week 1302 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 4: killed pay per view anymore, right, that was kind of 1303 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 4: ill advised, but they're still doing the streaming model. But 1304 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,200 Speaker 4: they were allowing themselves to be able to work with 1305 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 4: other networks to do the two network pay per view deal, 1306 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 4: which again was something you know, for the last twenty 1307 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 4: years that outside of like Lennox, Lewis, Mike Tyson and 1308 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 4: Mayweather pakiaw was something that just wasn't done. You gotta 1309 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 4: be happy, Luke that we've seen it done now with 1310 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,200 Speaker 4: Fury and Wilder in the rematch, and if we can 1311 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 4: see it done here with Fury and Joshua, hopefully this 1312 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 4: really makes things like spencing in Crawford not fighting, you know, 1313 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,880 Speaker 4: just close the gap on that shit. Let's fight get 1314 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 4: the network stick, all right, Luke, enough talk about buy. 1315 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 4: People already have the time stamp so they can skip 1316 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 4: past this part. 1317 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: You know what, before we get into the Wednesday we 1318 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 2: love death very quickly. I wanted everyone to know the 1319 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 2: biggest sporting spectacle of the year is nearly upon us. 1320 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 2: We know everyone loves making their picks, no matter if 1321 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 2: you're a die hard fan or just tuning in for 1322 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 2: the big game, So we think you'll absolutely love this opportunity. 1323 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 2: Enter the CBS Sports Football Props game for your chance 1324 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 2: to compete for the one million dollar jackpot. That's right, 1325 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 2: one million dollars if you answer correctly all of the 1326 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 2: questions and a guaranteed fifty grand to the winner, and 1327 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 2: you can win all that money without risking anything. Football 1328 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,439 Speaker 2: Props is free to play. Just visit cbssports dot com 1329 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 2: slash props plural to download the CBS Sports app to. 1330 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 4: Enter Wow so you can get them all right, Luke, 1331 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 4: you win a million, but somebody's gonna win at least 1332 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 4: fifty k. Not bad. That's a little bit of cheddar Luke. 1333 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 4: I know you're you're swimming in it these days. I've 1334 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 4: seen you order copious amounts of takeout and not even 1335 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 4: touch it. So you know that's not a factor for you. 1336 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 4: But our fans, our listeners here can really cash in, Luke. 1337 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 2: Okay, that's certainly true. All right, time for the Wheel 1338 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 2: of Death BC take it over. 1339 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 4: All right. This is what we do. When you have 1340 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 4: an ornary co host who only wants to talk about 1341 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 4: the things that he wants to talk about once a week, 1342 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 4: you can pin him down, put him in the electric chair. 1343 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 4: I mean, we. 1344 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: Make the rundown collectively together every single episode. But okay, 1345 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 2: you can feed the audience lies. 1346 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 3: That's fine. 1347 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 4: So here's how the Wheel of Death works. We spin 1348 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 4: the black circle five times every week. There are ten categories. 1349 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 4: It's all r what we get here. Luke does not 1350 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 4: know the questions coming his way. Can we look at 1351 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 4: the ten categories for this week's Wheel of Death? 1352 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 3: I love the new animation. Looks good. 1353 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, we got talented fools on the show. I love 1354 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 4: it all right, Luke. Your ten categories this week are 1355 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 4: used car, salesman, wrestle, fuck back in time, sneaky, sneaky, 1356 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 4: virgin eyes. O lord, we have the full screen there. 1357 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 4: I've lost my I've lost my spot on the notes. 1358 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 4: Butt stuff, Luke, Okay, but use car Salesman's going to 1359 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 4: be one of. 1360 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 3: Those what are here? Put the wheelback up? 1361 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 4: Hold on? Yeah, my my notes are not well organized here, Luke, 1362 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 4: if you can just give me, there we go virginized 1363 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 4: ketch up on steak, Young Jay check and Latin or 1364 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,480 Speaker 4: his bannock. Also Luke, French Canadian lips, and a return 1365 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 4: for the third straight week butt stuff. Yes, Luke, Yes, 1366 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 4: take the plunge, spin the black circle. It's time to die. 1367 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 3: All right, let's spind this bitch. Let's do it. 1368 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 4: Use do use car salesman right off the bat. Here 1369 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 4: all right, Luke, here we go. Let's say you're Luke Thomas. Okay, 1370 01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 4: you're twenty one years old, Luke, you're just fresh off 1371 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 4: in Olympic gold medal and boxing at the Tokyo Games. 1372 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 4: But you're you. You're Luke Thomas. All right, you announced 1373 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,439 Speaker 4: that you're going to turn pro. Which boxing promoter would 1374 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 4: you personally sign with? And why? Luke? 1375 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:51,400 Speaker 2: Oh, it ain't gonna be Golden Boy. I can tell 1376 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 2: you that. 1377 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,320 Speaker 4: There's Oscar de la Hoy of Golden Boy, Eddie Hearn 1378 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 4: of metriums for Bob Aram of Top Rank. You got 1379 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,439 Speaker 4: you know, Al Hayman of the PBC, although not really promoter, 1380 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,959 Speaker 4: but a managerial group that uses different promoters. You've got 1381 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 4: Frank One. 1382 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 2: I would probably go. I would probably go. I know, 1383 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,360 Speaker 2: Bud Crawford would laugh at this. I'd probably gold old 1384 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 2: old ass Bob Aram because of the ESPN connection. I 1385 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 2: feel like for Teo femal Lopez it's been incredibly helpful 1386 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 2: at this stage of his young career to get the 1387 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 2: kind of exposure that he's gotten. It would depend on 1388 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,160 Speaker 2: who else was in the weight class. I suppose you 1389 01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 2: know what kind of fights you're gonna get. But between 1390 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 2: aarm sort of understanding, I think you know he knows boxing. 1391 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,160 Speaker 2: What're gonna say Bob doesn't no boxing? And and and 1392 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 2: the ESPN connection, I would go that direction. I know 1393 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 2: that sounds crazy, but I would. I would do it. 1394 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:46,320 Speaker 3: BC. I would do it. 1395 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have well the look, they got one of 1396 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 4: the best TV deals and they have the old school 1397 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 4: Top rank matchmakers, which I mean, look, they are experts, 1398 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 4: you know, whether you're talking about Bruce Trampler, Karl Moretti, 1399 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 4: Brad Good and Brad Jacobs. I mean, these guys have 1400 01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 4: raised many a guy Oscar de la Hoya, Floyd Mayweather 1401 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 4: and beyond. You know, they know how to match him, 1402 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 4: they know how to prepare him. So that's an interesting one. 1403 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna go Eddie Hearn for you know, 1404 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 4: because he's the slickest of the used car salesman these days. 1405 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 4: He makes you want to buy that lemon. 1406 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: Right. 1407 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 3: No, No, I like him, but he's you know, he 1408 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 3: is so. 1409 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 2: Bob is like Bob will just tell you uncomfortable truths 1410 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 2: to your face. 1411 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 3: You know. 1412 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,200 Speaker 2: Hearn still kind of likes to lie for fun. I'm 1413 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 2: over there, all right. 1414 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 4: You can get high with Bob too. All right, Luke, 1415 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 4: let's spend it a second time, really hoping for butt stuff. 1416 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 3: Here. 1417 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 2: Here we go, spend that butch, come on latin, Oh fucking. 1418 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 4: He sneaky, sneaky, Luke. Over the past two years, it 1419 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 4: seems as if the calf kick has become the most 1420 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 4: dangerous and fights changing strike in MMA that was seemingly 1421 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 4: beneath our noses this whole time. It makes you wonder 1422 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 4: what others seemingly innocu strikes could potentially be as gang 1423 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 4: changing to start a new revolution. Luke, I want to 1424 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,960 Speaker 4: ask if you think there's a strike that hasn't been 1425 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 4: elevated to this level. But I want to give you 1426 01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,439 Speaker 4: my I want to throw you out my take here, Luke, 1427 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 4: how about the heart punch? I mean, you know we've 1428 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 4: seen it before in pro wrestling. We haven't seen it. 1429 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 4: Look at five years ago, I said, Luke, the strike 1430 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 4: that's gonna change the world is gonna be me kicking 1431 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 4: you on the outside of your calf. You'd been like, yeah, right, brother, 1432 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 4: all right, it's gonna be some uma jaga here. Can 1433 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 4: we throw to the tape. There has been a history 1434 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 4: of success here with the heart punch. Can we can 1435 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,520 Speaker 4: we each can you can you fire that up? Look 1436 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 4: at this guy a young me and Mark Kallis who 1437 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 4: went on to become the Undertaker, Luke, when he would 1438 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 4: raise people's arms and land a pointed shot right to 1439 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 4: the heart, Luke, they almost died. This was a punch 1440 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 4: that was outlawed in pro wrestling back in the Ox 1441 01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 4: Baker days. Well, Luke, this is a little bit more 1442 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,520 Speaker 4: or thematic and ridiculous. Here is there something to it? 1443 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 4: What if I line a guy up right in the 1444 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 4: damn ticker and punch him as hard as I can. 1445 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 4: Won't that throw off the rhythm of the night? I mean, 1446 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 4: won't that do anything? 1447 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 3: No, this is the saddest shit I've ever seen. 1448 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 4: Look at look at how they react to that. Oh yeah, 1449 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 4: look you get that that heart off schedule, right, You're 1450 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 4: gonna f up somebody's body. It's gonna be I mean, 1451 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 4: look as ridiculous as that sounds. The left hook to 1452 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 4: the liver and boxing and sometimes in mma is an 1453 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,480 Speaker 4: equalizing shot, is it not? 1454 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 1455 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,439 Speaker 4: Okay, So what give me something here? 1456 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 2: What a liver is surrounded by nerves in ways that 1457 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,480 Speaker 2: the heart is not. Plus, the heart is protected by 1458 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 2: like a series of muscles and other kinds of both 1459 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 2: soft and hard tissue. That would be very plus. The 1460 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,920 Speaker 2: heart isn't even really here, it's what's more towards the center. 1461 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 4: Would you let me punch you in the heart as 1462 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 4: hard as I can on camera to prove this theory? 1463 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't punch very hard. 1464 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 4: I don't mind that, all right, and all serious For 1465 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 4: the spirit of this question, Luke, is there something that 1466 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 4: it really hasn't been exploited yet that could change the 1467 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 4: game on the same level, think about it? 1468 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 2: Boz Rutin has sort of believed that, like, rather than 1469 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 2: going for a left hook to the liver, you go 1470 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,040 Speaker 2: for a right hook to like the spleen, and that 1471 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 2: that might actually be not quite as damaging, but you 1472 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 2: could do something with it. I tend to think that, like, 1473 01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 2: rather than strikes, people are like the people use the 1474 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 2: guillotine for a long time and then it came out 1475 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 2: of favor, but then they figured out how to do 1476 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 2: it better and they got back into favor. There's been 1477 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 2: things I've seen like that, but like I don't have 1478 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,680 Speaker 2: enough striking prowess to know about, like the hidden dim 1479 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 2: mock fucking you know, strike of the ancients to bring 1480 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 2: it back. 1481 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 3: It's a little bit beyond my pay, great big guy. 1482 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,000 Speaker 4: All right, all right, I don't know. It's really interesting, Luke. 1483 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen John Jones get away with those 1484 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 4: little short kicks to the knee that some fighters think 1485 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 4: is just kind of immoral. Will we end up getting 1486 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 4: to a point where people are really willing to risk 1487 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 4: ruining their opponent's career by just straight up sidekicking them 1488 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 4: in the side of the knee. 1489 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 2: Luke, I mean, this is the longer debates have but 1490 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 2: if there was a lot of evidence that that kick 1491 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,720 Speaker 2: did that, then you would want to outlaw it. But 1492 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,959 Speaker 2: the evidence doesn't really make you conclude that, so there's 1493 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 2: no reason to. 1494 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,360 Speaker 4: All right, I'd like to see Andrage start a new 1495 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 4: revolution of pile driving people on top of their head. 1496 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 4: That's a pretty tough thing to get past it. 1497 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 3: I think that is actually illegal. 1498 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 4: All right, now, you don't want to get to the 1499 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,040 Speaker 4: twelve to six drop on the pile driver. God's right, 1500 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 4: all right, Luke, Let's get back to the wheel before 1501 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,240 Speaker 4: this segment disappears for the rest of our show. Let's 1502 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,080 Speaker 4: see here, Luke, come on, give me something good here. 1503 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 2: Spinning, spinning, spinning, Oh jesus, none of the categories I wanted. 1504 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:43,040 Speaker 4: Wrestle fuck time, Luke. After Habib, Normaga, Metov and Kamara Oussman. 1505 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 4: Right now, who do you think is the best functional 1506 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 4: wrestler in all of mixed martial arts? 1507 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 2: That's not the question below us. I can tell you 1508 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 2: that all right here, there we go that. 1509 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,160 Speaker 3: One up, all right after? 1510 01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Frankie Egger's pretty good. 1511 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 3: He's pretty good. 1512 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 2: Obviously in his time, Saint Pierre was fucking amazing. Who 1513 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 2: am I thinking about here at like bansamweight, who's like 1514 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:19,320 Speaker 2: a really good functional wrestler shudo when he needed it, 1515 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,240 Speaker 2: which he didn't really he didn't have that identity as such, 1516 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 2: but when he needed it, it was really there for him. 1517 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:26,760 Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of the big reasons he 1518 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 2: was able to defeat Demitrius Johnson. Folks forget that it 1519 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:36,640 Speaker 2: wasn't strictly's strictly a matter of the attacking on the feet. Uh, 1520 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 2: logan story is pretty good. Yeah, I'd probably go something 1521 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 2: like that, maybe, like, but Sahuto's kind of retired, isn't he. 1522 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,160 Speaker 2: Oh you know what, maybe Curtis Blades. Curtis Blaze gets 1523 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 2: out there and makes some shit happen, doesn't he. 1524 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 4: That is a great point he uses it leans on it. 1525 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,720 Speaker 4: Do you throw guys like Demi and Maya in there 1526 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 4: who are are more submission grappling, but their whole game 1527 01:08:58,240 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 4: is still to take you down and keep you there. 1528 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not really wrestling. It's a little bit different. 1529 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,879 Speaker 2: It's it's you know, in the end, they want similar 1530 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 2: kinds of positions, but it's not. It's just hard to 1531 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 2: call that wrestling for that reason. So I would go 1532 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:14,559 Speaker 2: with Blades I mean, I still go back to Blades 1533 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 2: do that finish he had of Overem with those elbows 1534 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 2: on top. Oh my god, I've thought Overem's career was 1535 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 2: going to be over after that. Those were hillacious. Obviously 1536 01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 2: Volkov was able to withstand it. But yeah, dude, people 1537 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 2: sleep on old Curtis Blades. Curtis Blaze will wrest of 1538 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 2: your shit into the dirt. So I'll go with that. 1539 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 4: All right, Look, two more spins of this ridiculous wheel left. 1540 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:34,639 Speaker 4: Here we go. 1541 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 2: If we don't be Latins on this, I'm gonna be 1542 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,800 Speaker 2: super fucking bitter. 1543 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 3: But go ahead. 1544 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 4: Hey, it's it's a random, you know, chain of events here, Luke. Okay, 1545 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 4: we don't know what's going to come up next. 1546 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 3: Time. 1547 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 4: Oh back in time. Great documentary by one Jason Aaron Luke, 1548 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 4: gets your jigawatch ready, it's time to jump into the Dolorean. 1549 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,640 Speaker 4: But I want you to take me back not to 1550 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,879 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty five to twoenty sixteen, the moment Connor McGregor 1551 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,640 Speaker 4: out Eddie Alvarez became a simultaneous two division champion and 1552 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 4: then walked away from the sport in the peak of 1553 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 4: his prime. Luke, let's say Connor McGregor had never gotten 1554 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,680 Speaker 4: the Floyd Mayweather fight. And let's say after pausing for 1555 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 4: the birth of Connor Junior in the spring of twenty seventeen, 1556 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,680 Speaker 4: that he came back to a regular fighting schedule. What 1557 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 4: would his twenty seventeen to twenty nineteen have looked like? 1558 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 4: Can you take me back here, Luke, what's the best 1559 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 4: guest on potential opponents, weight classes? Results? What do you 1560 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 4: ever sit down and think this guy walked away when 1561 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,439 Speaker 4: he had the most potential money in the bank, so 1562 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,559 Speaker 4: to speak, from finishing people, getting any fight he wants. 1563 01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 4: He's on top of the sport. 1564 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:44,400 Speaker 2: What happens next, Luke Man, It's hard to say exactly. 1565 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 2: I definitely feel like I believe there would have been 1566 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 2: a correction on him, no matter what at some point, 1567 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 2: like he was on a hot streak that culminated UFC 1568 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 2: two O five that was not gonna last, no matter what. 1569 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 2: It just wasn't gonna happen. But if he had stayed there, 1570 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what he tried to go for 1571 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: a third title in a third weight class. I honestly 1572 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 2: believe that he would have. 1573 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 4: Iron Woodley would have been your champion at that point 1574 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 4: in seventeen, and they did have history backstage at that 1575 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 4: way in that one time Woodley, remember Woodley and Connor 1576 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 4: had they mouthed off face to face backstage at a 1577 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,000 Speaker 4: way in and Connor's like, you know, keep it up, 1578 01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,639 Speaker 4: I'll come up to your weight class and take your 1579 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,160 Speaker 4: title too. 1580 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 2: So I think he would have tried for that. Probably 1581 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 2: would not have gone well, but I think he would 1582 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 2: have done it. But I think he would have had 1583 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 2: some nice wins over everybody else too. 1584 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 3: You know. 1585 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 2: It's just eventually, if you had stayed at the top, 1586 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 2: you were gonna fight Habib and you were never gonna 1587 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,800 Speaker 2: beat him. He was just way, way too advanced for 1588 01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 2: his skill set as it relates to you know, everything 1589 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,080 Speaker 2: that we know already. So to me, it's like he 1590 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 2: would have played around with like the BMF stuff, he'd 1591 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 2: have played around with weight classes, but at some point 1592 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 2: you were gonna you were staring down the barrel of 1593 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 2: a Habib gun. You know you were going to eat 1594 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 2: that one no matter what. 1595 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 4: Well, here's what's interesting when you and I were going 1596 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,639 Speaker 4: through his career in the in the resume review clip 1597 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,439 Speaker 4: we did last week, is that the moment he finally 1598 01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,400 Speaker 4: toppled the featherweight mountain against All though his next move 1599 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,639 Speaker 4: was to, like you said, f around and try lightweight 1600 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 4: and go up and try to fight RDA, which led 1601 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 4: to two welterweight fights against Nate. Let's not forget that 1602 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,760 Speaker 4: when Connor got the Eddie Alvarez fight, Habib got screwed over. 1603 01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 4: In fact, that's when he publicly was like, maybe I'll 1604 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,360 Speaker 4: move up to walterweight or maybe if the UFC doesn't 1605 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 4: give me the title fight. You know, I'll never fight 1606 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 4: in Moscow for them, I'll never help them bring MMA 1607 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 4: to rush out. I mean, look, this was like a 1608 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 4: you couldn't deny Habib any longer. Is really my point here, Luke. 1609 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:38,519 Speaker 4: So could Connor have saw that endgame or would he 1610 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 4: have been riding such a high level of success that 1611 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 4: in his mind, who the hell's Abibe? I'll knock him 1612 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 4: out too? I mean, I don't know. Could you have 1613 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 4: seen him fighting Woodley next and losing and then maybe 1614 01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 4: going for a trilogy with Nate and maybe staying out 1615 01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:54,840 Speaker 4: of that lightweight title picture and getting stripped and seeing 1616 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,560 Speaker 4: you know, Habib fight Tony in an alternate universe and 1617 01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 4: start his run. I mean, I don't think we would 1618 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 4: have had the dolly through the window. It would have 1619 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 4: been a completely different ride, Luke. But what your your 1620 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 4: point is is key though. Eventually Habib's standing there, whether 1621 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 4: you're gonna give up the title or. 1622 01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 2: Fight him Habib, excuse me, Connor was always about escalation. 1623 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 2: It's a great point that Chuck Mindenhall's always made, which 1624 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 2: is why, in some ways maybe the fight with Mayweather 1625 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 2: was some kind of weird inevitability. It's you know, it 1626 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 2: sounds crazy to say, but where do you go after 1627 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 2: winning those two titles? So if you take out that 1628 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 2: as a possibility and he would have had to stay 1629 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 2: in MMA or something like that, where else do you go? 1630 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,080 Speaker 2: You go another weight class? You go Jesus, I don't 1631 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 2: know co promoting with fucking Belator. I mean, I don't 1632 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,760 Speaker 2: know where you go other than just crazy extremes on 1633 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,719 Speaker 2: other ends. But you know, to the extent you wanted 1634 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 2: to maintain any relevance at lightweight, you were gonna have 1635 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 2: to fight Habib and it wasn't gonna go your way. 1636 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 2: It's just the reality of things, some some kind of 1637 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 2: correction I do think is and was inevitable that it 1638 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,439 Speaker 2: went the way that it's going now, and you know 1639 01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:00,479 Speaker 2: we've always talked about it. Can he all he knows 1640 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,639 Speaker 2: is escalation? Can he de escalate to then rebound? That's 1641 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,599 Speaker 2: sort of the predicament he finds himself in today. 1642 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 4: Very interesting debate and chat there, Luke, one more time 1643 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 4: on the wheel. Let's hope for big Latina booty is 1644 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:13,240 Speaker 4: that on there? 1645 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,639 Speaker 2: I'll take I didn't see that as an explicit category, 1646 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,160 Speaker 2: which I feel like is Latin. 1647 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 4: Or Hispanic would be at your wheelhouse if you can 1648 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 4: only land at Luke God. 1649 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 3: Of course not. 1650 01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 2: Of course I got none of the fucking categories I wanted. 1651 01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 4: There's always next week, Luke. If this segment survives, we'll 1652 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 4: let the people decide. Luke, this is very easy. I 1653 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,880 Speaker 4: want to talk about your origin days as an MMA fan. 1654 01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:40,320 Speaker 4: What was the first UFC fight that you can remember watching, 1655 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 4: What was the circumstances? Give us your origin story. 1656 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,840 Speaker 2: Here, Luke. This one's very easy. There was a blockbuster 1657 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 2: that was on Barracks Row in Washington, d C. 1658 01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 3: With one of the summers. 1659 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,160 Speaker 2: I was living with my father and we had a 1660 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,479 Speaker 2: family friend who was like, Hey, you're never gonna believe this. 1661 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 3: There is a. 1662 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 2: There's this Brazilian guy who's choking everybody. Yea, he was 1663 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,799 Speaker 2: a he had his own martial arts school of something 1664 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 2: in you know, a Korean martial art and he's like, 1665 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:06,960 Speaker 2: let's go to a Blockbuster and it was this one. 1666 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,559 Speaker 2: It's just it's now a grocery store right on Barracks Row, 1667 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 2: but the time it was that. So we went there. 1668 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:14,599 Speaker 2: We ended a bunch. It was UFC four. UFC four 1669 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,880 Speaker 2: was the first one I saw, and then I went 1670 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,720 Speaker 2: back went to all one, two, and three, and of course, 1671 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,439 Speaker 2: you know, not all of those were it went Hoist's 1672 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,360 Speaker 2: way because of the chemo fight. But in general that 1673 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 2: was how I started. And then I had a long skip, 1674 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,479 Speaker 2: but then picked it back up again a little bit 1675 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,040 Speaker 2: in the Marine Corps. Trained in the Marine Corps Martial 1676 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,640 Speaker 2: Arts program, which is not that great, but you know 1677 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,479 Speaker 2: it was it was something to get you know, busy again. 1678 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 2: And then yeah, I did a little bit judo in college, 1679 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,920 Speaker 2: not much. And then when I got out, that's when 1680 01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,800 Speaker 2: I UH and I moved to d C. After living 1681 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 2: in New York for a time, that's when I decided 1682 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 2: to UH to eventually begin to train in a more 1683 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 2: serious way and then at that point, this was two 1684 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,840 Speaker 2: thousand and four, so this was a pre Ultimate Fighter, 1685 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 2: but I sort of kept up with a little. 1686 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 3: Bit, but UFC four. USC four was the first one. 1687 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 4: That all so my first UFC because of the ridiculousness 1688 01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,520 Speaker 4: of the Joe san Keith Hackney fight got my grandfather 1689 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,639 Speaker 4: to laugh until he cried, and I'm like, I got 1690 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 4: to see what this crazy cage fighting thing is all about. 1691 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 4: Do you where were you in terms of your knowledge 1692 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,960 Speaker 4: or respect of like martial arts at that point where 1693 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,680 Speaker 4: you like, what I'm saying is when you tuned into 1694 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 4: UFC four and you rented that video? Was it? 1695 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 3: Just? 1696 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 4: Was it for the same reason I was that, Like 1697 01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,080 Speaker 4: I was watching Face as a Death the week before, 1698 01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 4: and now you're gonna tell me that there's organized fighting. 1699 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,280 Speaker 4: I just want to see somebody lose an eye. Were 1700 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 4: you in that mold or were you like, oh, I 1701 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 4: got to see if the jujuits can beat the one glove. 1702 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1703 01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,559 Speaker 2: I mean Faces of Death was the biggest let down 1704 01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 2: as a kid ever, all those fake phony deaths that 1705 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 2: you're like, this is supposed to be real, and none 1706 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 2: of them were ever fucking real. I hated those movies. 1707 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 2: I kept trying to find a real death, but you know, 1708 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,360 Speaker 2: you never got one. So yes, it was that stage. 1709 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:54,040 Speaker 2: And I mean, let's say we talked about this. You 1710 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 2: grew up in that era where you know, I think 1711 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 2: you know, I was around fourteen or fifteen at the time. 1712 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,680 Speaker 2: You grew up in the eighties, grew up around the 1713 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,440 Speaker 2: Van Dams, and you know, also action heroes like Sportznigger, 1714 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,479 Speaker 2: but then the guys who bridged him like a cigal 1715 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,760 Speaker 2: and all that stuff was big and popular at the time, 1716 01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,680 Speaker 2: and Mortal Kombat had been out, Street Fighter had been out. 1717 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 2: She Fight or two I think had come out at 1718 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 2: that point as well. There was just a real culture 1719 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 2: of fighting in terms of entertainment for young men, and 1720 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 2: then this came out and it was like, you know, 1721 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,920 Speaker 2: you just there was no bullshit about it whatsoever. And 1722 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 2: for me, the real big key was the guy who 1723 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,839 Speaker 2: was telling us this had done a little bit of grappling, 1724 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 2: not much, but was a train of martial arts, like 1725 01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 2: that was what his life was about. And even he 1726 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 2: was like, you got to see this guy. So I 1727 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,519 Speaker 2: had this like validation from somebody who was in the 1728 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,640 Speaker 2: industry so to speak, but not a part of that 1729 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 2: particular world, and even he was like, this guy is 1730 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 2: a sight to behold. So I just had, you know, 1731 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,920 Speaker 2: one of those real red pill moments where you watch 1732 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 2: hoys choke out some you know, giant fat fuck and 1733 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, this is amazing. 1734 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 4: Well, I'd love to push you with for more questions 1735 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,080 Speaker 4: on Rob Thomas's history of viewing UFC, but we don't 1736 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 4: have time. We have too many fansubmissions. Just know, Luke, 1737 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, your block Buster on Netflix. 1738 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 2: Brother, do you see Blockbuster stock today? 1739 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 5: Uh? 1740 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:08,760 Speaker 3: No, I did not. 1741 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,679 Speaker 2: It's up like six hundred percent because of these dogs 1742 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 2: trying to bankrupt the minority owner of the Mets. 1743 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 4: All right, all these all these homeless cats. Yeah, okay, 1744 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 4: let's roll on here. Let's move on, Luke. 1745 01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 3: We can't let's do it here. 1746 01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 2: Time for time for fansubmissions BC. What do we have 1747 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 2: on this lovely Wednesday? 1748 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,600 Speaker 4: This is what we do. We open up the uh, 1749 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,679 Speaker 4: we open up the dms, We open up the email. 1750 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 4: It's Morningcombat at Gmail dot com is the preferred destination, 1751 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,120 Speaker 4: or you can DM me. We got artwork, we got 1752 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,320 Speaker 4: fan picks, we got all that good stuff. This is 1753 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 4: a bloated loaded addition, let's do it. It starts with 1754 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 4: somebody on Instagram who calls himself art is not a 1755 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:49,680 Speaker 4: crime yet. It's a guy after my heart. Luke, this 1756 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,600 Speaker 4: is not a picture or anything. This is just a 1757 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,160 Speaker 4: message you DM me, he says. On the latest Room 1758 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,800 Speaker 4: Service Diaries, you mentioned third Basis song the gas Face, 1759 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 4: which is off their first album, The Cactus Out. I 1760 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,759 Speaker 4: did not know this, Luke, this is illuminating. He says. 1761 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 4: That track features Zev love X from KMD. Zev love 1762 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 4: X went on to become MF Doom, not FM Doom 1763 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,599 Speaker 4: as BC would say, who you had no idea about, 1764 01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,599 Speaker 4: meaning me when we were talking about it on passing 1765 01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 4: on MK. Just thought i'd point that out. Doom is 1766 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,960 Speaker 4: next level. You should check him out. Love the show, BBC. Luke, 1767 01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,959 Speaker 4: that's that's wild, full circle right. 1768 01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 3: That's cool. Well, where's the fan submission? 1769 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,400 Speaker 4: The submission was the illumination of that fact, Luke. It's 1770 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,680 Speaker 4: not necessarily a dead wrong. It's just you know, you 1771 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 4: and I could have been hanging out long like years ago. 1772 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 4: You know, I mean, you're you love this guy at 1773 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,320 Speaker 4: at PM don or whatever his name is, and he 1774 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 4: was singing in one of my favorite tracks, Luke, Okay, 1775 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 4: so take that. 1776 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,200 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the actual artwork. Wow. 1777 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 4: Sorry, Luke's got another job to get to. Le C says, 1778 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 4: hello from Taiwan. Took me two months to get this 1779 01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 4: shirt via Texas and Tokyo. But here's a picture of 1780 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 4: me and Luke behind me. There was no room for 1781 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 4: the co host. Stay frosty, is what lee C ends 1782 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,719 Speaker 4: the message with Luke. This guy, you know, he fills 1783 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 4: out that medium pretty well. Right. 1784 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 2: And also, Taiwan has beaten COVID like no one has. 1785 01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,720 Speaker 2: They have open air concerts, you can do whatever the 1786 01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,800 Speaker 2: fuck you want over there because their government is actually 1787 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 2: a functioning and responsible one. So shats this maskless man. 1788 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,759 Speaker 2: He gets to enjoy the COVID war of the years 1789 01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,439 Speaker 2: without having to worry about COVID. 1790 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:28,040 Speaker 3: Must be nice. 1791 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 4: See, So you're saying, if Lee C was named French 1792 01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,600 Speaker 4: Canadian mayor for a day, you would be willing to 1793 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 4: kiss him on the mouth because he's COVID free. 1794 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:35,720 Speaker 5: Right. 1795 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't go to that length, but you know, maybe 1796 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:39,799 Speaker 3: a nice dap. 1797 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,160 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, let's go over to Callum B. He says, 1798 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,479 Speaker 4: attached is a picture of my holiday's MK routine. Over 1799 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,880 Speaker 4: the holiday period, I started drinking Martini's and I timed 1800 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,920 Speaker 4: it to when MK would go live. So cheers, guys, 1801 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,120 Speaker 4: Congrats on all of the success this year, and happy 1802 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 4: New Year. Callum B in the house. 1803 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,799 Speaker 2: Luke, my man's got some drinking issues, which I consider 1804 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 2: to be, in this particular case, adorable. But don't let 1805 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 2: him get out of fucking control of Jesus Christ. 1806 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:13,719 Speaker 4: Is a Martini a manly drink in your eyes, Luke, I. 1807 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,600 Speaker 2: Think knowing how to make a Martini is. 1808 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 4: Okay, it's got like old world like, like you know, 1809 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,400 Speaker 4: nineteen fifties New York City vibes. 1810 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,639 Speaker 3: Right. Yeah. 1811 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,480 Speaker 2: The problem is now they've got like you know, cucumber 1812 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,960 Speaker 2: teenis or apple teenis, and those have turned into, you know, 1813 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,000 Speaker 2: the kind of drinks that annoying girls that you're dated 1814 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,120 Speaker 2: in high school or you know, I guess not in 1815 01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 2: high school, but you know. 1816 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 3: College or whatever. That's what they order. 1817 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,520 Speaker 2: But I think knowing how to make a real Manhattan 1818 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 2: is as like a legit skill. 1819 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 4: All right. Our friend Matteo W is sliding and he says, 1820 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:50,160 Speaker 4: no better way to celebrate my twenty first birthday than 1821 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 4: going tip to tip, then go and tip to tip 1822 01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,759 Speaker 4: with my girlfriend with a view of the Sydney Opera house. 1823 01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,600 Speaker 4: This guy, MATEO, yes, right. 1824 01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,760 Speaker 2: And they got the matching. This dude is living the 1825 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:02,519 Speaker 2: life right here. 1826 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,600 Speaker 4: I mean he's going tip to tip with the beautiful specimen. 1827 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,360 Speaker 4: He's enjoying mk life he's looking out at we call is. 1828 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 2: That what we call women? 1829 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:10,439 Speaker 3: Now? 1830 01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 2: This that beautiful you know, specimen creature for copulation. 1831 01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 4: This vixen. Yeah no, that's no. No, no, her too, Okay, 1832 01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 4: her too, all right, shout out to MATEO and plus 1833 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 4: one plus plus one brother, all right, Anthony s is here, Luke, Luke, 1834 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:33,360 Speaker 4: your front yard gym inspired my basement. Jim being a 1835 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 4: hillbilly in the arctic hell of Wyoming, I built a 1836 01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,120 Speaker 4: power rack, bought mats and found weights that were used, 1837 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 4: got them for less than five hundred dollars, into everything, 1838 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,519 Speaker 4: and have about four hundred pounds in weights. 1839 01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 2: Your thoughts, Luke, My man is doing it right. That's 1840 01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 2: a real power rack. You can do a lot with that. 1841 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 3: Is it wood? 1842 01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:57,080 Speaker 4: It looks wood or just stained in a wood looking color? 1843 01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's If it's wold, I don't know. Exactly 1844 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 2: how it is. But if it's steel or something close 1845 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,960 Speaker 2: to it or it actuess depends on the kind of 1846 01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,800 Speaker 2: wood or whatever. He's got it right the he's got 1847 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 2: safety bars on there, he's got a real bar bell, 1848 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 2: he's got I mean, you did you get with this 1849 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 2: right here? If you know what you're doing, you can 1850 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,160 Speaker 2: do just about every exercise you could ever need to. 1851 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 3: Well done. 1852 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, good sir, We have fans in Wyoming. Shout out 1853 01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 4: to that. Will Fredo m is here, he says, Luke, 1854 01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:26,720 Speaker 4: thanks for the suggestion of the Thomas Pink shirts. They 1855 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,600 Speaker 4: are awesome. I feel like I should pay homage to 1856 01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,880 Speaker 4: Broke Back Mountain, so introducing Broke Back Combat from Will 1857 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:34,439 Speaker 4: Frado here. 1858 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,599 Speaker 2: Luke, your thoughts, bro I had so many people reach 1859 01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:41,639 Speaker 2: out to me who got like crazy deals on Thomas 1860 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 2: Pink shirts. They tried them all on and they loved it. 1861 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 2: That's one of my that has to be one of 1862 01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,599 Speaker 2: my best tips. 1863 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,160 Speaker 3: BC. 1864 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 4: Would you like to see what Mateo's lady in front 1865 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,120 Speaker 4: of the opera house wearing just one of those Thomas 1866 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 4: Pink shirts. 1867 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 2: You don't have to be weird every episode. You can 1868 01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 2: choose to be normal. 1869 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,480 Speaker 4: Just asked you a simple question, jerk. All right. At 1870 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,719 Speaker 4: River Kitty Ransom on ig he shares a Morning Combat 1871 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,639 Speaker 4: Merch post. He said, it's been tough to get out 1872 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,200 Speaker 4: with the VID, but he bought the MK shirt. He's 1873 01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 4: got it on and he went out and has been. 1874 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 4: You know, we say, tell your friends. He has been 1875 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,960 Speaker 4: passing on the love of MK. He got a bunch 1876 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,639 Speaker 4: of his friends to watch our two fifty seven reaction show, 1877 01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,439 Speaker 4: spreading the word. We've seen his cats before on this show. 1878 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,679 Speaker 4: But shout out to River Kitty Ransom with the MK merch. 1879 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,479 Speaker 2: Love it, love it and ANDBC. He's got the mask 1880 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,639 Speaker 2: on above his nose and over his mouth. No ball 1881 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 2: condoms on this, good sir. 1882 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,519 Speaker 4: And he's an Asian fella. And he said he's not 1883 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,160 Speaker 4: mad at me over the JMMA debacle. So shout out 1884 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:42,559 Speaker 4: to that guy. 1885 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:42,880 Speaker 3: All right. 1886 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 2: I found one that wasn't all right. 1887 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,800 Speaker 4: Peter r has a selfie with a recently purchased Morning 1888 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,360 Speaker 4: Combat beanie looking good friend. 1889 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 2: I know, but could you put more accessories on that phone? 1890 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,400 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ. 1891 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:02,320 Speaker 4: Looks like rock say Matafari's fighting gear. Yeah, what is 1892 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 4: going on here? 1893 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 2: Dude? He's got like a credit card holder, the little 1894 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,360 Speaker 2: thing that you used to clip between your fingers, some 1895 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 2: other like a case and some other bullshit on the front, 1896 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 2: like my man, just just have a phone. 1897 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,680 Speaker 4: Big big fan of Peter R. He's a he's a 1898 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 4: regular in these parts. Uh yeah, I love it, love it. 1899 01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,519 Speaker 4: Nice shirt as well. Nathan V is making his first 1900 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,559 Speaker 4: appearance here. He's had a he had a UFC two 1901 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 4: fifty seven party over the weekend, Luke, and to get 1902 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,400 Speaker 4: fired up for McGregor's return, he had Morning Combat on 1903 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,240 Speaker 4: the big screen there. You gotta love that. 1904 01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:37,880 Speaker 2: That looks dude, the studio. Man, I'm telling you, it's 1905 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,439 Speaker 2: such a different vibe. I was so glad to get 1906 01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:42,680 Speaker 2: back there, and I think the fans really appreciated it 1907 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 2: as well. 1908 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 4: So I believe there are talks being had of, you know, 1909 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 4: how do we get back there, Luke? How do we 1910 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 4: get back there? Because the chemistry was so next level 1911 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 4: that the people above they they realized it, Luke. 1912 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:56,640 Speaker 2: Okay, they realized how could you not? 1913 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:57,639 Speaker 3: Is what I'm saying. 1914 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,880 Speaker 4: How do you think Nathan reacted to Connor's loss here? 1915 01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,280 Speaker 4: I mean he bought balloons for this fight. 1916 01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Tricolor ones as well. He probably had a 1917 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,240 Speaker 2: bit of a meltdown, but that's okay. 1918 01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably drunk. That's great though, Hey, ben C 1919 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,880 Speaker 4: says I he only learns from the best. I don't 1920 01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,679 Speaker 4: know what that means. But ben C and his buddy 1921 01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,880 Speaker 4: Luke they're touching tips here. Bro is this is an 1922 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 4: MK approved handshake? 1923 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we have. We have really unleashed stupidity on 1924 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 2: the world. This is our fault in every way imaginable. 1925 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,960 Speaker 4: All right, we got Thank you, Benz appreciate that. We 1926 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 4: have three posts from a fellow named Alex K. The 1927 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 4: first one says Brian, longtime MMA fan as well as 1928 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,719 Speaker 4: Weekly Morning Combat viewer and Avid supporter, had the blessing 1929 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 4: of my first child, Brandon Lewis Klein, and I was 1930 01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,439 Speaker 4: watching Max Holloway's awe inspiring performance on the same day 1931 01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:51,800 Speaker 4: in the delivery room. Of course. I did all of 1932 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,559 Speaker 4: this in my ungodly comfortable MK shirt my wife got 1933 01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,840 Speaker 4: me for Christmas. Long live the MK throwne and long 1934 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,880 Speaker 4: live us Donks. Here are a trio of pictures of 1935 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 4: Alex K and his lovely wife who gave birth to 1936 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,719 Speaker 4: Brandon Lewis Kleine Luke, what a way to bring somebody 1937 01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,080 Speaker 4: into this world, the miracle of life MK in the house, 1938 01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:18,160 Speaker 4: Holloway cater on the screen, Alex k living large, incredible. 1939 01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 2: I remember this day when my daughter was born like 1940 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 2: it was yesterday. It's a beautiful time. 1941 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:22,720 Speaker 3: I know. 1942 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,800 Speaker 2: My man, Alex is not sleeping right now, I can 1943 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 2: tell you that. But you know to be that kind 1944 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,599 Speaker 2: of a fan of the sport, of this podcast, the show, 1945 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 2: this movement, and for his wife. She appears to be 1946 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,720 Speaker 2: in great spirits as well. Congratulations to them, folks, man, 1947 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:38,839 Speaker 2: they're doing life correctly. 1948 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 3: BC. 1949 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you very much. A lot of names were 1950 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,000 Speaker 4: in play he could have named for the child. The 1951 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,240 Speaker 4: ocean was one of them. He goes, Brandon Lewis very 1952 01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 4: strong name. So a big fan of that, all right. 1953 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 4: Luke got of bring back our friends Bill and Jen's 1954 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,280 Speaker 4: RV adventures on Instagram. Luke, they hit up Hollywood. 1955 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:55,959 Speaker 2: Not only did Jen wear. 1956 01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 4: The MK T shirt, but she went tip to tip 1957 01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,679 Speaker 4: with the sign that's on brand. 1958 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,840 Speaker 2: Brother, these people are living the world's best life. It 1959 01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 2: is out of control. How awesome their life is. Shouts 1960 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,200 Speaker 2: to these fine Americans right here. 1961 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 4: They tried to go and you can follow them by 1962 01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 4: the way. At Bill and Jens RV Adventures if you care. 1963 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 4: They tried to go to the comedy store yesterday, Luke, 1964 01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,280 Speaker 4: but it was closed unfortunately because of COVID. But hopefully 1965 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,879 Speaker 4: they can watch the doc for thirty days free on showtime. 1966 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,200 Speaker 4: Brendan chobbs and that Luke. Also, Bill and the Dogs 1967 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,639 Speaker 4: had a nice pick. If we can advance the slideminiatch. 1968 01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,439 Speaker 2: Here we go. This always bombs. 1969 01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:32,640 Speaker 4: He did want me to let you know, Luke, that 1970 01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:34,880 Speaker 4: he is retired. Okay, I know you were speculating of 1971 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 4: his job situation here, but you know he takes care 1972 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,799 Speaker 4: of the RV. The wife wins the bread. Everybody's happy. 1973 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a great, that's a I'm telling you they're living. 1974 01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 2: This is this is how it is done right here. 1975 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,720 Speaker 2: These two have figured out the key to life. God 1976 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:49,640 Speaker 2: bless them. 1977 01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,040 Speaker 4: Love you guys, Thank you so much. All right. Oliver 1978 01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:56,840 Speaker 4: forty six Underscore two on Twitter came in. He says, 1979 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,640 Speaker 4: if Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell was a couple, this 1980 01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,799 Speaker 4: is what they would look like. She's Brian and I'm Luke. Also, 1981 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,719 Speaker 4: I'm showing a little shob love with my the fighter 1982 01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,679 Speaker 4: and the kid hat Hey, well done. 1983 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:09,920 Speaker 3: Here, dude. What I mean. 1984 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,599 Speaker 2: Look, they're in a place where people are like, man, 1985 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 2: fuck COVID. I will give a fuck about no covid. 1986 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,280 Speaker 4: They're at a Proud Boys reunion here Looke. No, just 1987 01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 4: just kidding, just kidding. 1988 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 3: My daughter screaming bloody murder. 1989 01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's probably not a fan of Oliver's tattoo. But 1990 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,679 Speaker 4: I love this guy wearing the MK merch representing Shob 1991 01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,080 Speaker 4: and he's got a fun little bit going with the wife. 1992 01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 4: Can we got great people that watch our show, Luk? 1993 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:33,800 Speaker 3: I certainly do. 1994 01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 4: All right, Matt s is back, he says. Brian Campbell 1995 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:41,000 Speaker 4: finally gets a gas station sponsor for his trilogy Bout 1996 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,719 Speaker 4: with Luke Thomas after getting slept in the first five 1997 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 4: seconds of round one. Brian would go on to land 1998 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:50,360 Speaker 4: a commentating role for rival promotion Risen. Look at this 1999 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,960 Speaker 4: little thing here, Luke, what is going on? This is 2000 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,000 Speaker 4: my advertisement? 2001 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,760 Speaker 2: So obviously I'm Roy Nelson. Which one are you? 2002 01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:58,599 Speaker 5: Uh? 2003 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:01,320 Speaker 2: Is that j as the j DS? 2004 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? With the hot dog in your right hand? 2005 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:08,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, always makes time for a premium shell hot dog. 2006 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:10,639 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, when was the last 2007 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,880 Speaker 2: time true truth be honest? When was the last time 2008 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,920 Speaker 2: you had a legitimate foot long hot dog? 2009 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,800 Speaker 4: Been pretty long? Like like legitimate like ordered the damn 2010 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 4: foot long been pretty long? Luke, I don't even remember 2011 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:27,240 Speaker 4: the last time I got the little one. 2012 01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:28,560 Speaker 2: It's probably like the last time I went to like 2013 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,320 Speaker 2: a minor league baseball team game or something. 2014 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:36,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, great call. I went to the Duncan Donuts Park 2015 01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,600 Speaker 4: in Hartford. They got the the the damn what do 2016 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:42,160 Speaker 4: you call them, the damn goats the yard Hartford Yard 2017 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:44,439 Speaker 4: Gooats game, went with the wife and kids, got free tickets, 2018 01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 4: bought the foot long. You're damn right, I did, Luke. Okay, yes, 2019 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,840 Speaker 4: all right. What is she yelling at something? 2020 01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,200 Speaker 2: She wants to see her uncle who's downstairs, and he's 2021 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 2: busy with work, and so she's just saying, Pepe pepe, 2022 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,280 Speaker 2: uncle Peter, thank you, all right, Luke, Pepe, don't be racist? 2023 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,519 Speaker 4: Uh, Luke. We Eduardo's back filming this. He took our 2024 01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,160 Speaker 4: have you seen the ship bit from Monday and added 2025 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 4: your lt serious rant meet BC's ball jokes. There it is. 2026 01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 2: Looks just like every time, like fucking clockwork, you just 2027 01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,840 Speaker 2: come barging in. Ah, you're my balls and dicks. 2028 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:23,280 Speaker 3: Let's talk about it right here. 2029 01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 4: I've learned to get out of the way of art, 2030 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 4: Luke and just let it happen. 2031 01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, is this art or is this just drunk rednecks? 2032 01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 2: Which is it? 2033 01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,640 Speaker 4: It's close at Tacha Key on Twitter t O c 2034 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,840 Speaker 4: h i q I. He's back here with BC the artist. 2035 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:44,000 Speaker 4: Look is that art? Or we are? 2036 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 2: And you have a bereton and I'm some sort of 2037 01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:47,920 Speaker 2: phallic object that sounds about right. 2038 01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 4: That's that's that's pretty well done there. I guess I'm 2039 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,640 Speaker 4: Bob Ross, right, That's well, that's yeah, probably we'll have 2040 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:54,599 Speaker 4: the same things in our. 2041 01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,600 Speaker 2: By the way, my wife had never heard of him, 2042 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,240 Speaker 2: all right, I was I put on Bob Ross on 2043 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,559 Speaker 2: the TV. I'm like, this guy's amazing, right. She's like, 2044 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,599 Speaker 2: why are you watching some white dude with a fro 2045 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:07,479 Speaker 2: from the seventies. I'm like, you don't know who Bob 2046 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,760 Speaker 2: Ross is. She's like, never seen him in my life. 2047 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, holy fuck, you gotta watch it. So we 2048 01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,040 Speaker 2: watched a full episode and she was like, so he's 2049 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,240 Speaker 2: just a guy who does like a painting per episode. 2050 01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, but like the care and the delicacy 2051 01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 2: he always comes out with something nice unless she goes 2052 01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 2: are any of his paintings in the art galleries? 2053 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 3: I go no, so she just left. 2054 01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:28,639 Speaker 2: She'd be a much. 2055 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,200 Speaker 4: Spigger fan of my art. Luke, I believe that, all right? 2056 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think she's a fan of your art, 2057 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,000 Speaker 3: but go ahead. 2058 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,400 Speaker 4: We got a message here from Mouhamer, and he says, 2059 01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:40,400 Speaker 4: Luke put me through the ringer during the last dead wrong, 2060 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 4: claiming he never said Naldo, even though I said the 2061 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 4: exactly God, even though. 2062 01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:52,760 Speaker 2: Dude, these people hold have comprehension skills, it is out 2063 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:53,560 Speaker 2: of control. 2064 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 4: You'll have your chance to speak, he says. Even though 2065 01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,519 Speaker 4: I sent the exact timestamps to the producers where he 2066 01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:01,360 Speaker 4: did so, he did not see to accept it. Therefore, 2067 01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,599 Speaker 4: I have decided to produce a little video and see 2068 01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 4: mister Thomas's reaction to this. Tell Karen not to swear 2069 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,800 Speaker 4: as much in the future. Thanks a lot. Let's see 2070 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,080 Speaker 4: what Muheimer has to say. 2071 01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:12,280 Speaker 3: Here. 2072 01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,599 Speaker 4: Here's the defense from one of our viewers. Luke says, 2073 01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,479 Speaker 4: Ronaldo or Naldo, I guess, as they would say in Brazil, 2074 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,640 Speaker 4: as if trying to imply Ronaldo is Brazilian. 2075 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:27,000 Speaker 2: The proa fucking dick I never said Cristiano fucking Ronaldo 2076 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:31,200 Speaker 2: was fucking Brazilian. No fucking way, no fucking fuck you. 2077 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 2: Fuck you to whoever wrote that with this bullshit that 2078 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how fucking Cristiano Ronaldo is from fuck you, 2079 01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:41,639 Speaker 2: no chance, no. 2080 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,280 Speaker 4: Chances, pronounced it as if he was from Brazil. 2081 01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:48,080 Speaker 2: I've never I've literally, in the entirety of my life, BC, 2082 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 2: I have never called Christiano Ronaldo Cristiano Ronaldo, Rinaldo. 2083 01:33:58,560 --> 01:33:59,599 Speaker 3: Has or Ronaldo. 2084 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 2: I guess they would say in Brazil has two hundred 2085 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,479 Speaker 2: and fifty three million. Yeah, he'd have a shipload. In 2086 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:08,920 Speaker 2: the entirety of my life, BC, I have never called 2087 01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:13,559 Speaker 2: Christiano Ronaldo Christiano or Hunoldo. I guess this' or hunholdough. 2088 01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:14,559 Speaker 2: I guess it's or hunholdough. 2089 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 3: I guess. 2090 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,920 Speaker 4: Here's the defense from one of our viewers. 2091 01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:23,320 Speaker 2: Look, okay, hold on to respond, Oh no, no, no, hold on, 2092 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:24,880 Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, hold on you you said i'd 2093 01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,439 Speaker 2: have a chance to speak. Let me speak two things. 2094 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,200 Speaker 2: The original charge was that I said he was Brazilian, 2095 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:35,760 Speaker 2: which was obviously manufactured, total fake news. Not look at 2096 01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,479 Speaker 2: the bottom of the screen the bc BC. Please let 2097 01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:43,200 Speaker 2: me finish the bottom of the screen said Rinaldo is Portuguese. 2098 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,240 Speaker 2: Kama Luke, as if I am confused about his nationality. 2099 01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:48,559 Speaker 4: I think that's Mikey who did that. 2100 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,160 Speaker 2: Mikey fucked that up because obviously that is so not true. 2101 01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,599 Speaker 2: The second part is, I'm going to do this. I 2102 01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:58,160 Speaker 2: want to see go back to the timestamp because he 2103 01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:01,000 Speaker 2: cuts it off real suspiciously. I've never said he was 2104 01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:05,559 Speaker 2: Ronaldo as if he was Brazilian. They cut it off here, 2105 01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,240 Speaker 2: edited it selectively. That's not the full clip. I am 2106 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,920 Speaker 2: not confused about how to pronounce his name or where 2107 01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,640 Speaker 2: he is from. Y'all keep trying to do this, and 2108 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,960 Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm gonna find that fucking episode. 2109 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,000 Speaker 3: BC. Just do me this, do me the solid. 2110 01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,600 Speaker 2: If I come back and I show you that he 2111 01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 2: selectively edited it, will you finally agree that I'm the 2112 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 2: fucking cams around here right now. 2113 01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,360 Speaker 4: You're squatting over an l right now, and it's penetrating you. 2114 01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,360 Speaker 3: By the way, we can hear the echo. We can 2115 01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:34,240 Speaker 3: hear the echo. 2116 01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,840 Speaker 4: Echoes Mini, so Luke, all I mean, look is your 2117 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:40,920 Speaker 4: I think your best defense you still need to take. 2118 01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,160 Speaker 4: The al muhammer was right, but your best defense is 2119 01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:47,000 Speaker 4: to say. I wasn't saying it's pronounced Ronaldo. I was 2120 01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:49,800 Speaker 4: just saying if we were in Brazil that it would 2121 01:35:49,840 --> 01:35:50,479 Speaker 4: be pronounced. 2122 01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,000 Speaker 2: That is obviously what I am saying. That is so 2123 01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,360 Speaker 2: quite fucking obviously what I am saying. 2124 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,559 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, that's fair. You're back in the game there. 2125 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,840 Speaker 2: Okay, but I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna find the 2126 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 2: end of that tape because he's suspiciously edited the end there. 2127 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,559 Speaker 2: But we'll still okay, you know, for another day, another day. 2128 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,280 Speaker 4: Well done, move hammer. Yes, all right, this is from 2129 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:16,920 Speaker 4: Stankface Maximus on Ig and this is BC finally getting 2130 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:20,080 Speaker 4: in that choke Luke Tapper, napro your choice? 2131 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:20,760 Speaker 3: Who is that? 2132 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:22,080 Speaker 2: Who is this being. 2133 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,599 Speaker 3: Actually choked out? 2134 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:26,879 Speaker 4: I don't know who's. 2135 01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,800 Speaker 3: Got Who's black and jackedon, has tiny nipples? 2136 01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:37,360 Speaker 4: Carlos Newton maybe maybe? All right, thank you, Luke, that's 2137 01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:39,439 Speaker 4: what I like that. Thank you. I'm gonna frame that, 2138 01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:43,240 Speaker 4: thank you. Okay. Raise Muse on Instagram in response to 2139 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,120 Speaker 4: the discussion we had about the new four Kings of Boxing, 2140 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 4: or maybe the five if you include shaqusse Stevenson. This 2141 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,760 Speaker 4: guy Raised mus is very talented. Here Luke, you put 2142 01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 4: together this nice piece of artwork. He's also now got 2143 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 4: this as an animated thing. You can see Shaquers, Stephenson, 2144 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,720 Speaker 4: Ryan Garcia, you can see Tale female Lopez. You can 2145 01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 4: see all the guys here who we're talking about. Devin 2146 01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,280 Speaker 4: Haney might have next, Dravonte Davis. I love that look. 2147 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,759 Speaker 4: I'd wear that T shirt. Okay, thank you, it looks nice. 2148 01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:10,439 Speaker 3: I agree. 2149 01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's talented fella. 2150 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,479 Speaker 2: All right, looks like Felder in the upper left hand corner, 2151 01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:16,760 Speaker 2: but it's Lomachenko. By the way, did you see the 2152 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:18,600 Speaker 2: post he put out on social. 2153 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,759 Speaker 3: Media loma Chenko? 2154 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:25,439 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, he edited the fight with Lopez to make 2155 01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:26,880 Speaker 2: it look like he was the winner, Like he just 2156 01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,720 Speaker 2: edited all the parts he did well, and obviously he 2157 01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,599 Speaker 2: did well in like long stretches of the fight. But 2158 01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,760 Speaker 2: like all the people in the comments were kind of mixed. 2159 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,360 Speaker 2: It was like people like, yeah, you won this fight, 2160 01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 2: and the other one's like, yeah, if you edit out 2161 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:39,920 Speaker 2: all the times you fucking lost, of course you won. 2162 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,920 Speaker 4: Well, there's gonna be no defense for the fact that 2163 01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,479 Speaker 4: he gave away the first half of the fight. But 2164 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 4: his point was that he thought the announced team and 2165 01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 4: the CompuBox punchers, and he got into a big argument 2166 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,559 Speaker 4: with Dan Kenobi of Compybox that they were missing the 2167 01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,880 Speaker 4: fact that he was just getting out of the way 2168 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,000 Speaker 4: of the punches over and over as the announced team 2169 01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,400 Speaker 4: was like, nice left hand from Tao Femo. So I 2170 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,800 Speaker 4: think there's probably a you know, some level of what 2171 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,960 Speaker 4: he's saying is correct, that maybe he didn't get hit 2172 01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:07,519 Speaker 4: with as many as we thought. Clean But Luke, when 2173 01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,720 Speaker 4: you don't throw back for six rounds, you can't win, 2174 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:13,240 Speaker 4: bro right, yeah, of course, yeah, all right, all right. 2175 01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,280 Speaker 4: This is a cover of a Bob dylan album, brought 2176 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:19,080 Speaker 4: to us by one hundred and fifteenth Dream on Instagram. Luke, 2177 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:21,479 Speaker 4: this is supposed to be the cover of Bob Dylan's 2178 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,360 Speaker 4: Bringing It All Back Home, and it says luc and 2179 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:29,120 Speaker 4: BC making it look easy. Love this, love this, Thank you. 2180 01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 2: I am looking in bad shape here. 2181 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a woman in a red dress, so yes, 2182 01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:36,759 Speaker 4: probably on the yes. 2183 01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,280 Speaker 3: Looking with a tank abbot face. 2184 01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,880 Speaker 4: Very true, right there, Great work by our people. Okay, 2185 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,240 Speaker 4: Kevin l is here with a Mortal Kombat remake. What 2186 01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:46,960 Speaker 4: is this going to be? 2187 01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,719 Speaker 2: Baraka Combo? 2188 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:52,880 Speaker 3: Not bad? 2189 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 2: I'm into this. 2190 01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,920 Speaker 4: I'm into this. Tyler Ka has a pair of them. 2191 01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:02,559 Speaker 4: The first one is grumpy old Men MK style. Yep, 2192 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:07,240 Speaker 4: all three are Luke, Thomas by the way, and grumpy 2193 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,160 Speaker 4: old man, and the second one is the dong father. 2194 01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:12,439 Speaker 3: Fat lass Man. 2195 01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,760 Speaker 4: I would like to announce to everyone that I am 2196 01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,760 Speaker 4: no longer wished to be called fat by the angry commentator, 2197 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:23,439 Speaker 4: so I'm doing something about it. Thank you. 2198 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,960 Speaker 2: Listen, when we both lose the weight, they can, you know, 2199 01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,479 Speaker 2: they can srds, but we have to take our lumps 2200 01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:29,960 Speaker 2: until then. 2201 01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,680 Speaker 4: Yes, hold, although it is okay. Manny came in and 2202 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,040 Speaker 4: he says, Luke doing his best Rachel Nichols impression on 2203 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 4: the UFC two fifty seven review show with his forty 2204 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,080 Speaker 4: minute long monologue. 2205 01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:44,559 Speaker 2: Apparently they're not used to the fact that I used 2206 01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,920 Speaker 2: to do these by myself for well over an hour. 2207 01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, what am I supposed to do 2208 01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,719 Speaker 2: if you're not around? But okay, make more stupid points, 2209 01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,200 Speaker 2: that's fine, all. 2210 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,920 Speaker 4: Right, nice curves, Luke, I like that, Okay, Luke. The 2211 01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:00,680 Speaker 4: insiders are here and they say Luke has some competition. 2212 01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:15,040 Speaker 2: This is he's cheating on those hammer curls. Yeah, not 2213 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,920 Speaker 2: quite full range of motion there BC. 2214 01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,400 Speaker 4: That's not his front yard, but it is. It is 2215 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:24,200 Speaker 4: a public parking lot, all right. Tasos the Greek Wow, 2216 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:27,280 Speaker 4: another Greek fan. He says tonight's show was a blast. 2217 01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,160 Speaker 4: Thanks guys, can we go full screen please? 2218 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:35,640 Speaker 2: Maniach Burp's on air yawns on air sav ideas. 2219 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,519 Speaker 4: It was a very ill time, Burp. Luke, you're you're 2220 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,760 Speaker 4: you on the other hand, with with yawns or any 2221 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 4: any part of your body, You're just you, just flawn it. 2222 01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:45,479 Speaker 3: Luke. 2223 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you were making a point that 2224 01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:48,080 Speaker 2: I didn't care about. 2225 01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, all right. 2226 01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,200 Speaker 4: I was probably asking you a very detailed question as 2227 01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 4: to which you were looking down at your email and yeah, 2228 01:40:55,280 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 4: all right, Richard email Richard A uh comes back with 2229 01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:05,200 Speaker 4: uh Luke as Freddie Mercury here on this reface app. 2230 01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:13,320 Speaker 2: Oh god, I mean you thought Freddy Mercury was ugly 2231 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:19,200 Speaker 2: before at least he fixed his overbite. 2232 01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,240 Speaker 4: Wow, that is great, that is fantastic. 2233 01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:23,519 Speaker 3: There. 2234 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:26,679 Speaker 4: Okay, we got a couple more here. Pro Magnum eighty 2235 01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 4: five on Twitter has a BC and Jake Paul versus 2236 01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:34,320 Speaker 4: Luke Meme the left side, says BC, asking about Jake 2237 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,800 Speaker 4: Paul Versus professional fighters. The right side is Luke trying 2238 01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:41,360 Speaker 4: to stay away from tabloid combat sports topics. 2239 01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 2: And let me guess that's some trolla putting her rear 2240 01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:45,000 Speaker 2: end in the air. 2241 01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:49,720 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it is all right? Uh? From Nvic on 2242 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 4: Instagram gold Bloom and Luke poop meme. Jeff Goldboom is 2243 01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,200 Speaker 4: watching you poop and Luke Thomas too, Luke, what is 2244 01:41:58,240 --> 01:41:58,639 Speaker 4: this about? 2245 01:41:58,680 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2246 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:00,600 Speaker 2: I don't I don't I don't I get this. I 2247 01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,040 Speaker 2: mean that was Ian Malcolm in the Jurassic Park. 2248 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:05,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what 2249 01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:06,160 Speaker 3: this is. 2250 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,400 Speaker 4: All right, we missed the joke there. 2251 01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:08,719 Speaker 2: Sorry. 2252 01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:14,240 Speaker 4: From and vic at he SpecEd jiujitsu on Twitter. These 2253 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:17,360 Speaker 4: are dictators roasting Luke Thomas's Twitter. Can we go full 2254 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:18,280 Speaker 4: screen on this please? 2255 01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:23,840 Speaker 2: Maniach yeah again. They cut off the tweet. The tweet 2256 01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:28,200 Speaker 2: was that when Twitter did that purge of QAnon losers overnight, 2257 01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,160 Speaker 2: I lost like three hundred. I've gotten more than that. 2258 01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,639 Speaker 2: I've actually put on like fifteen hundred followers since then. 2259 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,000 Speaker 2: But I cut out. The full tweet was I've lost 2260 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,640 Speaker 2: three hundred, but you know, it's an addition by subtraction. 2261 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,400 Speaker 4: Kim John Noon sending you to hell right here, Luke, 2262 01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:42,880 Speaker 4: I love it. 2263 01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,719 Speaker 2: I guess if you're a moron, this is funny. 2264 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,479 Speaker 4: I'm a moron, all right. This is from at Needing 2265 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,679 Speaker 4: artwork on Twitter. Every time Brian Campbell tells Luke Thomas 2266 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,040 Speaker 4: a story. 2267 01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:57,559 Speaker 3: This is good. 2268 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,240 Speaker 2: If you can't read the bottom of what's in the 2269 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:07,880 Speaker 2: Google search box, it's big bouncing latina. Okay, this is funny. 2270 01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:10,559 Speaker 2: That's funny. That's really funny. 2271 01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,559 Speaker 4: All right, few more. This is Matt g He says, 2272 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:14,639 Speaker 4: here's a meme for. 2273 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 2: You, honey, tie me up and do whatever you want, honey, 2274 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,839 Speaker 2: and he's watching MK hell. 2275 01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:26,320 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you very much. If you don't like your marriage, 2276 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:31,160 Speaker 4: watch our marriage implode together. Todd em says, congratulations on 2277 01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:31,720 Speaker 4: the next one. 2278 01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:35,800 Speaker 3: Luke, I cannot read the scripts. Can you read it? 2279 01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 4: Can you blow? 2280 01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:41,280 Speaker 2: This is an hired Two ex Bellator fighters as bouncers, 2281 01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 2: Face Apple Sauce and Schlever McGhee have signed on his 2282 01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:51,599 Speaker 2: plus four hundred Underdogs, pending any altercations with former UFC 2283 01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:56,400 Speaker 2: Jimpion VJ Penn. I feel bad that we're laughing about this, 2284 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,200 Speaker 2: but it is a little bit on the funny side 2285 01:43:58,560 --> 01:43:58,920 Speaker 2: it is. 2286 01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,839 Speaker 4: It is at Jonah heat wardaway. 2287 01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,320 Speaker 2: I gotta say, I gotta say, fuck face. Apple Sauce 2288 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:05,919 Speaker 2: McGhee is a funny name. 2289 01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:09,360 Speaker 4: That's very well done. A meme from the movie three hundred, Luke, 2290 01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:10,479 Speaker 4: same energy, bro. 2291 01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,559 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm supposed to be the creepy Iranian who was 2292 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 2: of a. 2293 01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:17,120 Speaker 4: Creepy creepy Armenian. 2294 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:18,680 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but the guy in the movie is the 2295 01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,880 Speaker 2: Iranian Persian, so he's Iranian. 2296 01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,840 Speaker 4: Jonah has one more. It's BC and Valentina Schevchenko and showgirls. 2297 01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:32,200 Speaker 4: Apparently this is getting creepy. This is getting creepy. Yes, 2298 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:36,600 Speaker 4: this is too far. Take this off please. Joe p 2299 01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:38,960 Speaker 4: has a new episode of The Mma Beat, Luke. 2300 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:41,839 Speaker 2: Did you find this meme funny? 2301 01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:43,679 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2302 01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,960 Speaker 4: I mean no, I mean the first four thousand times maybe, 2303 01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:48,240 Speaker 4: but it's a little bit. 2304 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:49,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little played out. Right. 2305 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:52,559 Speaker 4: Look at that dream Team right there, right. 2306 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,240 Speaker 2: Who are they covering up Danny Danny Sigura? 2307 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,599 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I know this will never top the A Team, Luke, 2308 01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,760 Speaker 4: but there was some sauce spilled on that table during. 2309 01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,040 Speaker 3: The you know, do you see this is the A Team? 2310 01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:06,439 Speaker 3: You and me? Oh? 2311 01:45:06,520 --> 01:45:09,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right? Alan w has three of them on 2312 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:11,840 Speaker 4: the way out here. Here's a play on the movie 2313 01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:12,960 Speaker 4: what about Bob. 2314 01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:15,559 Speaker 3: Dude? That is so? 2315 01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 2: Is that not clever as shit? 2316 01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,240 Speaker 4: It says Brian is a special kind of friend, the 2317 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,559 Speaker 4: kind that drives you crazy, referencing Bill Murray in that 2318 01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:25,879 Speaker 4: eighties movie what about. 2319 01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,639 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah dude? That is? That is? 2320 01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:32,160 Speaker 2: That is a really well done piece of fan art. 2321 01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm impressed. 2322 01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:36,880 Speaker 4: Well, he has a dumb and Dumber movie poster as well. Ellen, 2323 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:42,599 Speaker 4: m let's see that as we twist each other's nipples 2324 01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:44,479 Speaker 4: here this has been done a few times, but you know, 2325 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 4: not bad, not bad. And he also has Finally, this 2326 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:53,759 Speaker 4: is BC as vanilla ice. Oh, that is on point. 2327 01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:56,160 Speaker 4: That is on point right there. 2328 01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,120 Speaker 2: If you could have your hair like this, would you? 2329 01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,880 Speaker 4: I think I can? I mean I think I should? 2330 01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,360 Speaker 4: Is really where? I think this looks a lot like 2331 01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 4: that episode of Stay by the Bell where they had 2332 01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:09,559 Speaker 4: the fake band that they remember the Zach attack. This 2333 01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 4: looks like Zach's ridiculous hair, and that like a starter jacket. 2334 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,280 Speaker 3: That's also the star, the stars and stripes. 2335 01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,160 Speaker 4: I think so this is brilliant. In fact, I should 2336 01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,400 Speaker 4: go in this direction. I should start shaving my eyebrows, 2337 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:23,320 Speaker 4: just little little lines right there, Luke, We've got one 2338 01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,040 Speaker 4: more and this may be one of the best we've 2339 01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:29,880 Speaker 4: ever seen. A fella named Geo Macaro has written and 2340 01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:34,639 Speaker 4: recorded a theme song for your boy BC called BC 2341 01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:39,080 Speaker 4: Big Dick Energy. Can we please play this one each? 2342 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:42,799 Speaker 4: Here's the album last Yeah. 2343 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:55,839 Speaker 6: Uh, Brian Campbell with the Big Dick and che Brian 2344 01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:00,160 Speaker 6: Campbell with the Big Dick and che Brian Campbell with 2345 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:06,719 Speaker 6: the Big Dick and the Chief DC BD PC BD Luxie. 2346 01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:11,840 Speaker 6: That BC got that BDE, he'd be infected, wetted like 2347 01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:15,840 Speaker 6: an STD the strip trip DM on stiff step smarter, 2348 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:18,880 Speaker 6: you think quick wick, hit you with a quick quip, 2349 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,960 Speaker 6: then hand you a drink. Don't leave your girl around him. 2350 01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:24,600 Speaker 6: Should get a mental pound and he'll make her with 2351 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,680 Speaker 6: her seat when she filled that BDE the. 2352 01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 2: Most style, the most class. Put him to the test. 2353 01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:33,720 Speaker 6: He's gonna pass a contantment professional, Luke. He won't get 2354 01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:36,880 Speaker 6: show ass for PC with the lights off. That girl 2355 01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,880 Speaker 6: thought it was all black, this whole route, it's all fact. 2356 01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,360 Speaker 6: We know BC is all that producer cres. You get it, 2357 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:46,040 Speaker 6: we get it. If DC left you regretted to the 2358 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:49,559 Speaker 6: door of your fans beheaded and work forget it. Brian 2359 01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:53,679 Speaker 6: Campbell with the Big Dick and the G. Brian Campbell 2360 01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:57,479 Speaker 6: with the Big Dick and the G. Brian Campbell with 2361 01:47:57,560 --> 01:47:59,160 Speaker 6: the Big Dick and the Chi. 2362 01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:14,000 Speaker 4: They don't get to where they are at the end. Luke, 2363 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,080 Speaker 4: you're looking at the closer right here, a guy with 2364 01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,960 Speaker 4: that b D. E. How great was that song? 2365 01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,280 Speaker 2: Luke, I've never once in my life thought you had 2366 01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,120 Speaker 2: b D. But if there's another person out there confused 2367 01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,800 Speaker 2: about your station in life, God bless you, BC, God 2368 01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:28,040 Speaker 2: bless you. 2369 01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:31,000 Speaker 4: There were some detailed lyrics in there, Luke, about you 2370 01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,800 Speaker 4: one day not realizing the art coming out of me 2371 01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,720 Speaker 4: and letting me go, and then I just go on 2372 01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,559 Speaker 4: to much much bigger thing. 2373 01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:40,919 Speaker 2: So once again, if you want to stoke themes of division, 2374 01:48:41,000 --> 01:48:44,160 Speaker 2: you certainly may. That's not really the wavelength that I'm on, 2375 01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:46,160 Speaker 2: but you know, let's teach his on. 2376 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,479 Speaker 4: I will say that this weekend, once again, Luke has 2377 01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:50,760 Speaker 4: brought us together. 2378 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,879 Speaker 2: Okay, hope necessarily to the. 2379 01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:56,240 Speaker 4: Consummation station, but we're we are a unified front. Let's 2380 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:58,760 Speaker 4: not let that guy break us up. But fantastic job. 2381 01:48:58,920 --> 01:48:59,880 Speaker 3: But that was I gotta say that was. 2382 01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,000 Speaker 2: At first, I was like, oh, this is gonna be terrible, 2383 01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:03,479 Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, he had a little bit of flow, 2384 01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:04,680 Speaker 2: He'll hit a little bit. 2385 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,519 Speaker 4: Of Yeah, there were bars, there were there were truth, 2386 01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,080 Speaker 4: a lot of truth at a lot of spinning. 2387 01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,240 Speaker 2: Have you here's the question, have you played that for 2388 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:12,599 Speaker 2: your wife? 2389 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:13,280 Speaker 3: No? 2390 01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,120 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, why not? 2391 01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:19,360 Speaker 4: I have BD on this show, but not not, you know, 2392 01:49:19,439 --> 01:49:23,040 Speaker 4: not not necessarily behind this wall. Look, okay, yeah, all right. 2393 01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:24,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna play for your wife the first 2394 01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,120 Speaker 2: time I meet her. Oh did you know that BC 2395 01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:31,240 Speaker 2: had a song about big dick energy. No, that's not nice. 2396 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:32,000 Speaker 3: That's not nice. 2397 01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,559 Speaker 4: Luke. This has been a long and fruitful show. Have 2398 01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:35,200 Speaker 4: you enjoyed it? 2399 01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:35,680 Speaker 3: I have? 2400 01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:39,000 Speaker 2: I have It's I'm still recovering from the beatdown that 2401 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,120 Speaker 2: last week was, but I'm rounding the corner as a 2402 01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:44,479 Speaker 2: pathetic forty one year old man. And uh yeah, And 2403 01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:46,040 Speaker 2: we have a live chat tomorrow and we have an 2404 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,400 Speaker 2: episode on Friday. No big fights this weekend though, so 2405 01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:50,880 Speaker 2: that's a bit of an unfortunate. 2406 01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,479 Speaker 4: I'll be chatting with uh with a great a great 2407 01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,759 Speaker 4: MMA fighter today, So a little bit of bonus interview 2408 01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,080 Speaker 4: coming your way this week as well. 2409 01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,200 Speaker 2: So oh, that's right. I saw that. I saw that. 2410 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:01,000 Speaker 2: That should be good work. And I'm working on an 2411 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,040 Speaker 2: interview for Friday. I won't say who it is just yet, 2412 01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:05,559 Speaker 2: but if I get it'll be nice and big. So 2413 01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:06,879 Speaker 2: this is massive. 2414 01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:07,960 Speaker 4: This is massive. 2415 01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:10,160 Speaker 3: Knock on, knock on wood, knock on wood. 2416 01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,080 Speaker 2: If nothing's done yet, we're still working out times, but 2417 01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:12,800 Speaker 2: we'll see. 2418 01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, MK, we got we got the BD here, bro, 2419 01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:18,040 Speaker 4: we got all right? 2420 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:18,840 Speaker 3: All right. 2421 01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:20,519 Speaker 2: I want to remind everyone if you want to try 2422 01:50:20,520 --> 01:50:22,879 Speaker 2: to Showtime you certainly may. You can go to Showtime 2423 01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:25,479 Speaker 2: dot com thirty day free trial you like, you can 2424 01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:26,960 Speaker 2: keep it. If not, you can go get some of 2425 01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:30,280 Speaker 2: that BD from BC. Let's see what else we got 2426 01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:34,080 Speaker 2: the merchstore dot show dot com. You can go get 2427 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:39,320 Speaker 2: hats and fucking whatever and uh oh, if remind folks, 2428 01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:43,679 Speaker 2: email Morningcombat at gmail dot com for Friday's dead wrong, 2429 01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,760 Speaker 2: So go get those in if you want. We are 2430 01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:50,160 Speaker 2: on social everywhere it's Morning Combat consistently every place you go, 2431 01:50:50,640 --> 01:50:52,360 Speaker 2: but for us in BC or hash to say, for 2432 01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,080 Speaker 2: BC and I, it's a little bit different depending where 2433 01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:55,679 Speaker 2: you go for Instagram and where. 2434 01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,400 Speaker 3: You go for Twitter. That is it. 2435 01:50:58,479 --> 01:51:00,800 Speaker 2: That's Brian Campbell. We'll have some more content throughout the 2436 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,040 Speaker 2: course of the week. Thanks to everyone like subscribe, share 2437 01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:06,639 Speaker 2: with a friend, send us emails, Morning combat at gmail 2438 01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:08,880 Speaker 2: dot com, and all that good stuff. All right, So 2439 01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 2: for Malka for showtime for CBS Sports, thank you for 2440 01:51:12,200 --> 01:51:15,120 Speaker 2: tuning in. 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