WEBVTT - EP 130: Gangs Wage War On Chicago w; Big Rick & ESC Deez 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.760 When I right, y'all all across the usc conton Motts 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.720 Bank to l A. I'm on the California the Valley. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.200 We represent that kind of county. So if you're keeping 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:16.880 it real on your side of your town, you tune 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:22.880 into Gangster Chronicles Gangsters. He's gonna tell you how we go. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:26.440 If I lie, my nose will girl like Pinocchio. We're 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:28.440 gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:33.760 Gangstern goals. This is not your average show. You're now 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.199 tuned into the Reil m c A, Dick James, and 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:45.200 Bi Spills from the Streets. Hello, Welcome to the Gangster 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.080 Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio and Black 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.600 Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the I Heart Apple, 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.560 subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for my Apple users, hit 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.960 the Purple Michael your front screen. Subscribe to Against the 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.000 Chronicles and leave a five star rate in the comment. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.360 We like to welcome if you want to another episode 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.000 of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. You know with my homeboys 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:08.480 Big j Jill and Man. You know we got my 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:11.360 brothers in here from Chicago to night Man, bigger Rick. 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.920 What's the word representing speed? Mobsters and my nigga E, S, 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.440 C D S. You know too, totally different sizes of 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.240 the tracks. Man from Chicago, Man, and my nicka James 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.320 is over there funked up at night. Man, y'all keep 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.319 him in prayers. He need to go get this shoulder, sir. Nothing. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.199 These people ain't gonna even shoot me. And you're telling 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:34.320 my business man whatever, n pull up and nig let's 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:37.160 get this catch that faces up. You got me over 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:38.920 you got over here. You got to. Don't me from 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:44.280 Chicago that get up, but we got you to. I'm 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.040 I'm sugar in that truck and get that fucking pump shot. Yeah, 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.040 Ni go kick some motherfucking fire. Grab that motherfucking nine 0:01:56.320 --> 0:02:02.400 call that nigger name na. Man. You know what? Speaking 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.160 of violence? Man, what exactly is going on right now 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:07.160 in the city of Chicago? And you can explain against you, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.560 y'all from two totally different sides of the tracks. What's 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:15.040 going on right now? You have basically renegades push it 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.360 to the limits. That's the generation that's outside right now. 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:23.520 No structure, no leadership, no nothing, just Okay, I feel 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.240 like I can do this. Then were all gonna do 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.880 this espactically? What's going on and it's influenced the world. 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.239 You know. There's no structure, no leadership nowhere, but they're 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:37.040 attaching themselves to these mobs that we come from and 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.160 kind of just when their own spin on high things 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.680 supposed to be, which is not fair to the world 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.639 or to the people like myself and elders that put 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.160 their life on land for this situation here. Yeah, because 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.520 all I knew from Chicago, man, what I knew about 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.239 being in from Chicago that it was vice lords and 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.280 g d s. But then I start seeing ship like 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.080 no limit and all these other little splinter sales and 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.160 everything like that. So them was just like there was 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:08.280 just splinters of different sales of this same crew. To him, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.640 it's basically like this, I'm e S. C d S 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.680 representing filthy gut cartel. I'm from the East Side of Chicago, Manum. 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.640 It's basically like this. You got folks, you got brothers, 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.520 you got the intensies, you got boom and boom, so 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.280 under the under the five and the six brothers, five folks, 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.960 six got the folk corner hustles big Rick at the 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:35.880 Black Black Peace Stones got the Mafia's says the travelers. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.680 You got the Lords, and under the six you got 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:41.520 the folks, got the beats who in tour right now, 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.520 so imagine that, and you got like you got the 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.880 up there in Humble Park. So it's like it's like 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.520 a mixtures, but it's only five and six. Let's get 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.560 that clears, only a five and the six folks and 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.200 the brothers of the nation. You know what I'm saying, 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:00.600 Oh man, your gangbanger seemed complex of the motherfucker. It 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.960 was structure, It was rules and situations to that. What 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:05.520 do you mean by the five and the six? They 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.920 run under the six point stock. Ourself we run under 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:13.400 the five point star. So again that include vice Lowers 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.440 which include myself, the Black Pea Stones which is our 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.680 first cousins, which include him, the Latin Kings, and you 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:25.000 got a whole bunch of other Spanish and White moves 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.480 is under our move too. And then with the folks, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:31.159 you got the g DS, the b d S, the 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:36.200 mL d S, the the Spanish gangster disciples, all that 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:41.000 run together. Like when you when we used to get incarcerated, 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:43.840 basically that was the car, like you're gonna go to 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.320 the five of the six. So whatever you had on 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.240 the streets that was going on that ship cease when 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.200 you get behind the bars and you go wrong with 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.560 the going wrong with the finball, they're going wrong with 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:57.920 your six and it's all one. So now on the streets, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:02.240 it's nobody there to tell them their history, their literature. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.279 The ship that we came up out for and was 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.480 it was prideful about it because if we didn't know it, 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:12.000 it was violations and situations that have could occur. It's 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:14.080 just like they're just pushing it to the limit. And 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.880 then they're just making a click out of the ship, 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.479 which is just disrespecting everything that's going on. Say, wondering 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.360 why all the violence is going on, because it's you 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.000 got people that just pushing ship to the limit and 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.520 ain't no structure, ain't nobody to getting on discipline. We 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.520 were proud of discipline and like just say, for instance, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.159 I got into it with somebody. I just can't go 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.039 do it. Hit on these guys over here because they're 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.120 from a different mob. I can't go do none of 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.000 that because at the end of the day, I gotta 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.839 go holiday my superior because they might have some business 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.960 transactions or some type of relationship that I don't know about. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.160 Because I'm on petty ship and I wunk around. Might 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.360 get my ass beat for even bringing that type of 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:00.000 ship up, because often the funk up a million dollars 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.559 type of ship and I don't even know it because 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.240 I'm in emotions. So what you got right now is 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:09.200 it's youngsters off emotions, y'all. Sters that's trying to find 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.640 that way and build their name, but they don't understand 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.159 the work that come with this ship. Yes, so do 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.880 me your favorite just real quick, um, explain your hierarchy 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.320 of you're banging, like, because I keep hearing your mixing 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.560 sheets and lords and all this other stuff and something 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.400 like it's a real structure too, Okay, So like go ahead, bro, 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.640 you go ahead from from the stone side. So basically 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.200 on the stone shat is like, uh, it's like you 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:37.680 got yeah, you got your you got your muf tie, 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.200 you got your you got your you got your general 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.360 like you got your shirting. Like for example, where I'm 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.640 from on the East Shadow, Okay, you got the Macca, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.800 the Medina. That terror Town which is no limit, y'all 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.520 know where that's where I heard from, but it's originally 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:58.960 called terror Town, but it's like no limit Macadina. You's 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.240 the outlaws city. So you got in four them, just four, 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.560 it's more than that than four different black Stone set. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.559 So each said got a general, eat said, got a muff, 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.600 and it's like that. It's like broken down, and this 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.960 ship like that. I go with the folks. But if 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:19.160 you got all generals and and you got five star 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.040 generals and ship like that. Right, But if you got 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:26.800 if you got brothers that's that's high in rank, then 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.400 were the ones that's supposed to come down and say 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.160 this ain't right now, that's the cat Okay. Now if 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.800 they go to jail, ship is regulated even better from 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.720 jail because when you come home, niggason kites home. If 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.600 such and such out of line discipline, y'all to y'all, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:51.040 they just say the big deal whatever. So you have 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:55.239 to discipline. You have you have the structure to stop 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.200 this ship if it wanted to be stopped. But you 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.520 got some brothers that's in it. And use their influence 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.760 to get where they're going. They used their ranking to 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:10.880 be in a position or in the place where they 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:15.720 shouldn't be. Where where Now all the hoods, everybody got dope. 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:20.440 Everybody trying to be that guy. So nobody has taken 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.400 or standing stepping forward to say, man, check this out. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.000 Too many of us getting killed out of here. We're 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.800 doing it and it's fullish ship. Nick is walking up 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.960 the street with wants let's stop the ship. So somebody 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:38.600 and somebody cause damning everybody in the game's cousin's with 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:43.160 somebody that can get together and say let's fix this. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.800 We're gonna work this side. Y'all work that side, and 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:51.840 if the little homies respect the big homies, it can happen, right, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.800 it can. But see that's the catch. In the nineties, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:00.240 they moved all the seats off the streets. So like 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.839 when you be seeing like Larry Junior Hill shout out 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.160 to Larry Jr. That's my man's like even for the folks. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.280 And then right they got everybody out streaked from my side, 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.440 they side the stone side, like it really started with 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:14.480 us and then it moved to the stones. Like so 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.680 they got Jeff Ford up out of him with eighty seven. Yeah, 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.480 when they hit him with the trees, and you know, 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.640 Jeff tried to go out that the dom and they ain't. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.720 They weren't trying to hear that. Right, that broke the 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.360 whole structure. Tried to go out. He was gonna go 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.240 have a meeting with him, and you know, they put 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.760 the paws on that, they put the brakes on there. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.599 Jan people are about to Yeah, he's easy leader of 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.080 the Black Peace Stone Nation, Caudafi and all of them 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.120 was rock. See it's a big it's religious suit for 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.720 my part of the thing. It's it's weird Islamic. A 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.200 lot of people don't know that though that's outside the city, 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.959 it was real structure. Gotta gotta understand that. So they 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.400 took Jeff off the street eighty seven. That broke that 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.400 up on my end, you know, like they got um, 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.839 they got Bobby and what's sixty nine and Bobby and 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.840 then come back home to the nineties. Damn there, rest 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:15.120 in peace, Bobby Gore. Uh. A lot of people saying 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.000 things saying with Willie Lord. You know what I'm saying 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.560 all this with Lord came home a couple of times, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.719 and the first time he tried to get it right 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:26.480 and couldn't because Willie Lord had proclaimed itself chief of 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.840 every branch of the Vice Lord and the other chiefs 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:35.120 like ship because it's different generations is moving in, you know, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.800 what I'm saying. So yeah, but basically what it comes 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:42.120 down to today, it's no structure. All leadership was gone 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:47.680 and clink that ship up. If the police took two 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:52.600 of the original vice glors up the street, you got 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.160 two more that's gonna take their place. It's different for 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:02.240 the West Side because the West Side still get miner structure. 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.319 We like, we like money out west on the West 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.080 Sude of Chicago, we love money. Then the South Side 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.800 they're gonna game bang like they do here in California. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.840 West Side, we're gonna get some money. But if you 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.840 conflate with that money, then your life is gonna Benito 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.600 and the guys that gang bang out soft they're not 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.160 coming past street. They're gonna go to downtown to take 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.840 their back out. Soften not coming to the West Side. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:33.000 And the West Side is small, so but we love everybody, 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.600 that's the crazy part. But they took all the hierarchy 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.280 off the street. So that's what you got now. Much 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:43.080 of little Renegade with the bill that was the last 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.199 you know, the slad my veil there from the BDS. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.679 They put that out there like this, just like you're 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.800 gonna take this out in regular you know, Google history 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.000 or whatever, but my veil them had their stronghold, but 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.760 they numbers will not they are today. Chief Keith really 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.520 made the bat al must today. I'm not gonna lie 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:06.360 to nobody. And it hurts me when I go to 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:09.880 other cities and I see them mimicking stuff from the 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.600 South side of Chicago where they don't have no idea 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.520 what type of history or what type of animosity they 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.600 came from. What these guys are doing. So that's what 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.240 I wanted to ask you, because you got the little 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:24.200 young cats like the Chief keeps some the g Herbos 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.840 and all the little young casters doing their thing out there, 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.520 and there it's a lot of killing going on. Like 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:32.319 I see a lot of real ill ship online like motherfucker' stuff. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.000 I'm about to ride down on my up and you 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.000 can see a motherfucker dumping out the car and they 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:39.439 all on motherfucking YouTube doing this ship like, ain't no 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.719 accountability tour or no ship like that. Say't nobody to 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.520 discipline them. You gotta think these these people that's outside 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.840 right now, I love them because they are and my 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:54.000 kids age. They had no discipline. The discipline left after 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.200 my generation because everybody left and we were scared though 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.920 I ain't even going the front to be this. Damn 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:03.000 you don't sit at home and from forest drinking coffee 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.760 and niggers walked back and you get to tell them 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.400 in the history. Man, look we got on my end, 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.600 it's different. On the end, it's wall that on the end, 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:16.760 it's wall to help. Is damn well this so you 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.560 would say it's the lowest cast. It's not a losst 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.480 cause it's that's a good where I putting it. But 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.360 it's not, Rick, I don't mean to cut you off. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.079 It's not, but it is because it's like I got 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.240 family over here right now today, and then I funk 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.480 with them over there just because I carry myself. So 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.480 it's like I I posed that question no, just to 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.920 be this is what you know. Too many, it's too many. 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.160 This is from the amount knowledge. It's too many. Bodies 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.160 has too many, there's too many, is too many, And 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.960 this is what I hear. It's like laughing, real tense 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.240 or it's like honestly yeah, but it's not because like 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.480 Rick saying, if it's if it's for ricks walking around 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.000 that say now these are kids, it's a way to 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.880 help them, then you know we could try, but now 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.400 what I'm hearing every day from the niggas that's out there, 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.760 ain't no way to stop because of the history of 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.920 what's been going on and the killings and the kind 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:13.520 of going back and forth, and so basically, like like 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.280 Motherfucker's used to do when we was young, you can't 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.440 tell me ship. But see, this is where we all 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:23.680 grew up and got to understand. Everybody don't lost somebody. 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.560 Everybody didn't got hurt behind this same old bullshit. Right, 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.960 So now it's time for grown men to get in 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.880 the middle of the circle to say, we know y'all lost, 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.560 we lost I lost a brother, You lost your brother, 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.200 you lost your cousin. Let's stop this ship right here. 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.240 This is what needs to be done, because not only 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.840 you're gonna get killed, you're gonna get killed and them 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.920 cats gonna get killed, but our kids is dying. So 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.160 niggas ain't even looking at it like that that this 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:56.000 is just bigger than those cats that hang't on the 0:14:56.080 --> 0:15:00.920 corner with a pistol and say I'm and anything come 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:05.680 my way. All the gangster ship is gone. The structure 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.520 is not there no more. So even if you got 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.320 you got kids getting killed out there, so Chicago got 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:16.320 to do the same thing. It's California. Fuck the past, 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.320 let's move on with the future and the show these looks. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.440 I'm totally different. If we don't do that. That little 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.960 boy that was that uh the spot where with all 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.680 the money talking to that youngster, trying to tell him, 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.240 you know what, man, you got a lot of money 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.800 on you. Next thing, you know, when he boss from 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.640 up there a week later, young man, dead man. It's 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.840 it is crazy because at some point in your age 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:47.360 you want to say this ain't for me exactly. And 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:52.760 I was just bless for having rapper homies and people like, 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.520 you know, like all the hierarchy. From my end, it's 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:02.160 our dead brother mob father. So I had opportunities to 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.840 move around the country. And that's what I'm looking at 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:10.080 to solve right now, is to show the younger guys, like, 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.920 beyond what they see in their little block radius is 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:17.040 their neighborhood is it's so much stuff you can do. Now, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.920 there's so much stuff you can do. And I'm just 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.640 trying to bring a webness on how I can be 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.720 that person to show them that, because when you're in 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.920 the hood, just like all of us from that era. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:33.200 If what you see every day ain't nothing, ain't nothing 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.720 going the way you needed to go, then you're gonna 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.920 do what you see every day. But if you give 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:44.480 my opportunity or access to people or situations where they 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:48.000 don't normally get every day, first they're gonna come off crazy. 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.560 Second they're gonna understand how to come off, but they're 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.600 gonna appreciate the opportunity. And that's what we That's what 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.160 I'm trying to do right now with myself and my life. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.280 The police right now, he could hell to me, I'm 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.560 being honest, and we could say from me from shame up. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.520 I wouldn't say scared because hell no, I wouldn't say scared. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.719 You say scared, I wouldn't say scared. Look, okay, I'm 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:16.520 look in my ror. You see vice out south right now? 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:20.680 Oh my mama, the vice detectives. No, I'm listening. They 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:23.560 won't out south. There was out west because we had 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:28.200 all the fun We got million dollar blocks. They out 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.880 there every day. When I started seeing the transition, they 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:33.760 was on that, but it was on murders and had 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.280 the ship and they just slimmed through him like Chicago 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:43.200 it's different. It's it's like this speaking to what Janger said, 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:46.840 My daughter got her name because the bullet went through 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.119 the kids. My daughter, my daughter mother on the day 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:55.240 call the baby she had personally every day the bullet 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.520 she was out rid uh about rick way out west. 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.040 The bullet went through the wind and killed the baby. 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.480 That's how my daughter got her name. So that's how 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:07.680 deep this ship is. My daughter is named after her 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.640 mother's who the baby my mother kept at the daycat. 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:15.639 So it's like this summer, this is a true story, nigga, 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:20.080 I'm finding guns. I found the gun just walking down 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.280 the street because my dad laying heaving right now. I 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.000 found the gun. This ship like I racked for real, 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.440 Let's walk down the street, walk through the alley and 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.240 go a gun laying on the ground, you know, clipping 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.040 and so we know what's going on with this here. Yeah, 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.480 this type of ship they're going on, it's a fact. 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.280 It's a fact. It's this type of ship that we 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.159 live every day. I know it's real. Way, I know 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.400 this ship is real. Why but this is the type 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:45.640 of ship every day across the street from my daughter 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.199 school as my dad landing. It's I'll cop out the 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:52.239 letter and what the fuck this ship for real? And 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.680 this ship for real is really I right? Yeah, this 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.960 ship crazy? And um, I want to expound a little 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.600 bit on your history, big Rickers. You gotta a real 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.240 thorough history as first, not just the street ship, but 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.919 the music ship too, because you're a big part of 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.040 the reason why Twister was able to move around through 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.800 the city. You're from the same neighborhood and stuff like that. 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.440 So you start off with Twister, tell us a little 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.760 bit about that. With with with with Twister and the 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.480 Mobster's quick which is what the brothers, my best friend. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:27.600 We grew up together. We did anything together, me myself 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:32.920 and my family. The funk Ustles wouldn't be in existence 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.000 without our family. So a lot of people really got 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.639 behind me for that. But as a kid, I was 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.960 a lame you know, like five sis years I was 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.080 a little kid. I was a street smart kid, but 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.040 I want to be a regular kid. But from my 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:51.640 family background, I was thrown into something that I ain't 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.840 know nothing about, So a lot of people gravitated towards me. 0:19:55.000 --> 0:20:00.280 So with that being said, um with them it aybody 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.080 that was around me before my uncle Man row Banks died. 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.760 It was good. I used to wonder when I was 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.840 a kid, like damn, y'all can't go over here, and 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.440 then my gas like, you can't go over there. And 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:14.800 I figured it out once I got a little older. 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:17.080 So I talked about us about seven and a half 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:23.119 eight years old, and I understood that my family had basically, 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.800 I'm not gonna get touched. I'm gonna golden chat. So 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.119 people just got behind me. So that's basically how that 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.560 happened with Liffy. Liffy, what was my other best friend? 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.840 He took me on this shoulder. He told me everything 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:40.119 that I needed to know. But he was one of 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.359 myne just like to was brother Quick, one of mine. 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:47.200 Folk on hostles we ran together, so we already had 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.280 small numbers back in the day. We stuck together from 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:56.920 Capitol Hill, from Chicago Avenue. D I v uh the 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.680 k all that we all stuck together plastic road. We 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:04.920 stuck together, and that's what we was bro So when 0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.960 the mobsters came into four Fruition all, when it came 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.199 all together, basically the folk on the hustles. A lot 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.960 of people don't know that, but but with us being 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.960 from the West Side, we're dealing with anybody. That's the 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:20.640 difference between the West Side and South Side. We're funk 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.800 with everybody every moths long as the ain't no disrespect 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.280 and we can get some money be there. That's the 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:31.119 in general, the big quickest way to get money is everybody, everybody. 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.840 So that's the part that hurt me with the music 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:39.520 now because that's the thing that lived Turtle Maze put 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.399 together along with myself and a whole bunch of other people. 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:45.320 We can go to any hood and funk with everybody 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:49.040 because it won no disrespect. We represent in Chicago. So 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:54.480 that's that's basically some up b But yeah, yeah, because 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.919 at the time when y'all came about, y'all was pretty 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.879 much the first one is kind of like off the 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.080 porch in Chicago. As far as the music on the 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:07.320 nationwide scale, Twisters is the first, like we salute comment 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.640 because I can't you know what I'm saying. That's the same. 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:15.359 But that's the first energy. But you still got shots 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.959 off the Psycho Drama, the Triple Dog and it shouts 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:23.439 out to um Mass Crew, Color one all. It's a 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:25.600 lot of door that. It's a lot of people that 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.959 play the part but we all grew up together. We 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:29.800 all know each other cause the West Side is small, 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.360 so we all know each other. But we all brothers, 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.679 you see, we all brothers. It just might be different 0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:42.760 type of brothers, but we all brothers. So it's a 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:44.960 lot to it. So when we see it now and 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:47.840 I look at it, like all the hard work, blood, 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:51.320 dedication and tears and everybody is doing all this extra 0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.440 ship now, it hurt because it's like, you know how 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.240 many cities you went through and it was just us, 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:01.080