WEBVTT - Hating America 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.040 On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:06.200 people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.119 an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.440 about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger Show 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.400 with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.200 twenty four out of twenty six years was solely dedicated 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:22.160 working on the cover. I walk in, I'm in the bar. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:25.120 How there's a bar made? Dare good looking young lady 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:27.240 see serving me? Joey, Hey, what would you like? I 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.920 usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini, 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:33.479 three olives, class of water on the side. I finished 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.320 the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.680 in my pocket, take out the big wad of money. Hey, am, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.200 I give her one hundred hours. If you're with the mob, 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:45.400 I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:48.400 means we protect you. Nobody could shake you down. We 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.879 could shake you down. Oh, you're on record with us. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.640 For more on how Jack became so trusted in the 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.440 highest levels of the Gambino organization, check out episode three 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:11.160 ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger show. This is a 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:24.280 Jesse Kelly show. Imagine sitting in a cell full of 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:29.759 water with only your head above it in the pitch black. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:40.280 Now imagine sitting in that cell like that for three days. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:46.960 How's your mental health doing? And with that, let me 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.480 just wish a happy Monday to everybody. We're gonna talk 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:56.800 about treason and sedition. I've heard these words thrown around 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.160 a lot. Well, I have actually found some tree is 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:04.880 in sedition. I'm going to call it out. We're gonna 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:09.360 talk about Joe Biden already coming out and committing to 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:16.960 slaughtering thousands of jobs immediately day one. This is going well. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:22.280 And Iran, don't worry. I'm not going to drown you 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.360 in foreign policy. I never do that. But something's going 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.960 on in Iran, and I thought it was really revealing 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.640 for the modern day Democratic Party, the modern day Left 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.400 in what they believe. But before we get to any 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:42.160 of that, let's rewind just just a little bit about 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.760 seventy years. Let's go to a little place that doesn't 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:52.440 exist anymore. It's called East Germany. Now, for those who 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:56.320 aren't aware, just do about a two sentence recap. Here 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:01.600 stalin is allowed to take Berlin FDR in World War Two. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:07.359 That was a mistake. The Soviets then sees a sphere 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:13.680 of influence in Eastern Europe. Soviets, because they're communists again, 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:18.760 just like America's communists today, do not see spheres of 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.679 influence and then sit back on their heels and say, wow, 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:26.320 let's just let them do whatever they want. Communists use power. 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:33.720 They take East Germany, East Berlin, East Germany, and they 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:38.600 force it into becoming a communist place. This is immediately 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:43.320 in the aftermath of World War Two. Now this thing 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.600 doesn't go very well pretty much right off the bat. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.880 It's hard enough. In fact, it's impossible to make communism work. 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:56.640 It's really impossible when you're forcing it on people who 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:02.400 were relatively happy with life beforehand. I realized the Germans 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.360 had been through quite a lot by the end of 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:06.800 World War Two, and honestly, he had put other people 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.160 through quite a lot. But we're talking about the regular 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.040 citizens here. You've lived I mean, think about what you've 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:17.200 lived through. If you're up fifty year old German citizen 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.360 at this point in time, you've lived through the Ymar Republic, 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.839 your money not being worth anything. Then you lift Adolf 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:32.720 Hitler rises the power. Now post World War Two, Oh gosh, 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.440 the Communists are now in charge. Your life has been eventful, 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:41.159 to say the least. The Soviets get in there and 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:46.560 they immediately start locking things down, pushing their Soviet propaganda, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:52.400 pushing their total control over society. And it's such an 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:56.240 adjustment for people. Everybody. Immediately you're in a workers' union, 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.480 You're going to work here, and you're going to say this, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.680 and you're going to think this, and you're and it's 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.680 it's a lot. It's they don't they don't exactly slowly 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.919 work it in. They wanted in, and they want it 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:12.120 in right away. And by nineteen fifty, you remember this 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.640 is really really close. After the World War ended, they 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.320 start the Ministry of State Security, which is what we're 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:26.119 going to be talking about today. The Stazi, what was it, Well, 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:32.320 that's actually difficult to say because it was everything. The 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:37.680 Stazi was everything. The Communist Party of East Germany, the 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.080 guys who run it, you know, there's always a council 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:44.080 of these dirty commies who run it. They're a party, 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:47.000 right so they're the Communist Party. They're running things. However, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:52.080 they need somebody to do internal state security, because that's 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.360 what commies do. Do. They need somebody to do external 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.520 state security because that's what commies do. They need somebody 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:02.600 to collect information. They need somebody to monitor things. And 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:04.680 when I say monitor things, we'll get to that in 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:13.200 a few I mean monitor everything, radio, TV, your phone calls, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.080 the private things you say to your wife, what your 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.560 kids learn in school, the products that are sold, the 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.560 products that are not sold. Each and every part of 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:28.520 your life must be monitored and controlled. You need an 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:33.120 enforcement arm of some kind. If you're the Communist Party 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:36.119 of East Germany and so, what do you do, Well, 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:41.119 it's not difficult. Remember you have a big daddy sitting 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:46.120 over there in the Soviet Union. You say, big Daddy Stalin, 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.440 help us out, help us get this thing organized here 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.560 and Stalin because remember, their goal is to spread communism 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.919 in every part of the world. I need you to 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.960 understand that as it applies to day, because the Communists 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.279 are still here. I've said this before, I will say 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:08.200 it again. The Soviet goal was not to spread communism 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.400 just to this country and this country and just to 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:15.360 expand a bit. The Soviet goal, the communist goal, is 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.880 to spread to each inch of the face of the planet, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.120 and they're not happy until they do so. And our 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:25.880 communists are the same. They never get to a point 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.240 where they look around and say, ah, we've this is enough. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.600 I mean, I feel like we're okay now. They don't. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.480 They didn't then, they don't now, And because they're expanding 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.080 communist control, they're more than happy to help a new 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:44.000 communist country like East Germany get its affairs in order 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.200 locked down. This is how we do things. So they're 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:51.960 approaching the NKVD, the KGB, they're approaching the KGB and saying, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:56.320 how do you do surveillance, how do you do security? 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:01.520 How do you organize things? And the Stasi the state 0:08:01.560 --> 0:08:09.520 security guys, the Stazi, they were a wing of the Soviets. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:14.400 They did things the Soviets wanted done. They wouldn't do 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.880 anything the Soviets didn't want done. They were definitely their 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.400 own entity. Though it's it's it's it's difficult to explain 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.920 it because they're still working it out to this day 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.280 that the Stazi in East Germany. East Germany was its 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.000 own country and the Stazi they were their own state 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:36.040 security thing. But they were never going to step out 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.440 a line from something the Soviets wanted done ever, and 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.840 they were really, really, really good. And a lot of 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:47.360 this comes to the fact that they were German. Let's 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.600 just be honest when it comes to organization, and frankly, 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.240 when it comes to cracking down on your own people, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.800 who does it better than the Germans. The Stasi became 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:02.400 so good that when people like Cuba and Castro were 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.280 trying to get their affairs in order over there and 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.960 figuring out their own state security, the KGB not only 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:12.760 sent their own guys, they would send Stazi guys over there. Hey, hey, Stazi, 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.560 go get these guys straightened out. Tell them how to 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.080 lock things down. You know, you do it real well. 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:25.000 These were evil, evil people, and really good at being evil. Remember, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.360 you want your enemies to be stupid and inadequate. You 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.400 need to fear the ones who are really good at it. 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.280 Now the Stazi gets into place, you know, nineteen fifty things. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.240 I don't want to say things are going well, but 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:45.760 things are. They're plodding along, and then boom, nineteen fifty 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.520 three happens, and there was we'll probably do a show 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:49.960 on this at one point in time. I'm not doing 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:54.119 it today. There was a national uprising in East Germany 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.920 where they remember they're fresh to communism. The people freak, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.559 They are a freak. They're like, what is this crappy system? 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.400 There's no food, everything sucks. You're in control of everything. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:14.240 There was a million person plus uprising of protests and riots, 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.760 and yeah, it was wonderful. I mean it was awesome, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.800 the German people standing up, the East German people standing 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:25.480 up and saying no. But in the end that prompted 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:31.200 some changes. Talk about those changes and treason and sedition 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:51.200 in the United States that I've found. Hang, oh God 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:55.760 onnimally side on me, Jesse Kelly, don't listening to the 0:10:55.840 --> 0:11:05.680 Jesse Kelly Show. I don't offer personal health advice very often. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.440 Why Well, because I'm not qualified. I'm not exactly I'm 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.720 not exactly the model of personal health. Bye you too 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.960 much pizza. I work out but not enough, so on 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.079 and so forth. But in all seriousness, let me get 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.400 serious for a moment. Please take care of your heart, 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.000 take care of your blood pressure, take care of your heart. 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:31.040 I have seen the effects of not doing that in 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.360 my own family. It runs in my family, and just 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:40.079 please do it. Go get super beats. You understand what 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:44.040 an easy way that is to take care of your hearts. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:48.600 Just two super beats heart choose a day that gives 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:52.320 you the cardiovascular support you need. You go to superbeats 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.199 dot com slash jesse and that actually gets you not one, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:12:02.160 but two free thirty days supplies uberbeats dot com slash jesse. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:24.200 We're gonna talk about Iran and what it tells you 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.160 about the left in America today. We'll talk to that. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.440 Talk about that in just a little bit, But first, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.240 nineteen fifty three member, we're talking about the Stazi today 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:36.360 the State Police of East Germany. Nineteen fifty three. This 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:42.400 a national uprising. The Soviets are still very very aware 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.960 that some people are chafing under communism. The Soviets do 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.239 not play around in nineteen fifty three with this uprising. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:55.040 It's so big, it's so violent. The Soviets roll in 0:12:55.160 --> 0:13:00.200 the tanks immediately and they put it down and end. 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.920 This is something you have to understand about the spread 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:11.840 of communism. The Soviets were very, very very concerned about 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.959 people hating it publicly. It's part of the reason they 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:21.120 were so brutal to their own people, inside their own 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:25.280 borders and their minds. Yes, it's aggressive, it's violent. Communism 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.280 is it is, it always will be. But they wanted 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.880 people around the world to look at it and want 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:37.439 it in their minds. They're always doing propaganda for everyone else. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.600 They want some random country somewhere a Zimbabwe to look 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.560 at East Germany and say, man, they really seem like 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.320 they have their stuff together. So when there's something like 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:54.200 a national uprising that makes international news, the Soviets really 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:58.560 freak out because they don't want that word getting out. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:04.760 They step in to Stazi headquarters. Hey, guys, mind if 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:09.559 we have a meeting. Yeah, you were doing state security before. 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:14.160 You need to do a lot more of it from 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:18.160 this point forward. Let's not have another repeat of a 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:22.480 million people uprising. So whatever you have to do to 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:27.280 prevent that from happening again, do it now. Pay attention 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.480 because this applies to how the left thinks about you today. 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:36.280 If you're the Stazi, the Communist Party of East Germany, 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.800 and you just had a display that you didn't like, 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.720 you can choose one of two directions. You can go 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.600 look at yourself in the mirror and say, maybe we 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.640 need to reform some things so people aren't quite so 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:58.240 unhappy and aren't quite so violent, or you can go 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:03.440 the other direction, and we clearly just need to hurt 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:09.520 some people to teach them a lesson. You notice what's 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:15.400 happening in the Capitol right now. You have a bubbling 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:21.240 over of anger at the Capitol building. What has been 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:27.400 the response by the American left? Banning social media accounts, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:31.520 tens of thousands of them, bringing in thirty thousand troops, 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:36.000 high fencing around DC and locking down the place like 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.960 it's a maximum security prison. You know what? The response 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.000 hasn't been, not a single person on the left stepping 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.440 up and saying, maybe we called them Nazis one too 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.360 many times, maybe that maybe in a way, this is 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:58.600 a little bit on us, because communists don't change. Ever, Ever, 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.600 East Germany decides the Stasi is going to be a 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:11.120 lot more aggressive. They began it's hard to put it 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.440 into words because we've never experienced anything like it. I've 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.000 never experienced anything like it. You haven't either. They began 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:23.160 an information collection thing that I've never I've never seen 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.040 this before, I honestly, and I could be wrong, so 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.560 do not take this as gospel. I'm not sure that 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.400 KGB went to these lengths of information collection. I know 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.280 they did a ton of it, but they immediately build 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:43.840 satellites to intercept every radio signal coming in. They put 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:49.920 up planes along their border, recon planes that intercept radio signals, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:54.400 phone signals. They have stations built along their border with 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:58.840 Western Germany because they're not only interested in collecting their 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:03.440 own people's information, they're interested in collecting all the information 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.600 from West Germany, who they were constantly concerned about. They're 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:12.639 eavesdropping on West German calls, West German radio signals. The 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:17.760 mass collection of information, they had an entire system set 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.840 up to open mail, read mail, and then reseal mail 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:26.760 so people never knew. They had machines designed to do it, 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:33.000 wire taps, hidden cameras on their own people all over 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:39.800 the place, and informants. At its height, the Stasi had 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:45.440 ninety thousand employees at its height, but they had a 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:51.000 hundred and eighty thousand informants. And when I say informants 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.840 understand this world, it's just it's so evil and sick, 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.720 it's hard to wrap your mind around it. Informants means 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:05.199 your wife collecting information on you and giving it to 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:10.160 the Stazi, your husband collecting information on you, your child, 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:19.920 your mother, your brother, threatened, bribed, beaten into giving up 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.879 your information to the government that wants to oppress you. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:29.359 It was that evil. It was that terrible, and it 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.919 went worse it actually and the ahead of it. By 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:33.639 the way, you don't have to remember this is a 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.359 guy named Eric Milka. But he was the head of 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.640 it for virtually its entire existence. Dan, And he wasn't 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.200 there in the very beginning. They dumped them in the 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:45.840 very end. But that's he really headed all this. And 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:49.760 why why were so many people on board? Well, here's 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:54.000 part of the reason. Part of the reason is it 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.640 was a really, really, really decent life. If you were 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.600 a member of the Stazi, if you could get in, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.240 it was a decent life. You ate better, the pay 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.200 was better, the housing was better. Speaking of housing, let's 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:11.520 pause on that for a moment. While East Germany was 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.240 drowning in poverty and misery and just life sucked because 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:21.320 it's under communism, they set up something called a forest colony. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.880 I believe it's still there to this day. Now, that's 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.240 not what it's called in German. In German, I'm not 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.879 even gonna try to pronounce this walled seed lung w 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:35.840 a l d sie d l u n G. What 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:39.520 it was a forest colony, a forest settlement. You know 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.760 everyone else loves like crap, right, this communism. They took 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:49.320 this area, this little area, and it's it's about twenty 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:54.320 miles north of Berlin, and they set up this absolutely 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:59.680 stunning little community for the members of the Communist Party, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.320 for the leadership of the Communist Party. You can go 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.200 look at pictures of it to this day if you'd like, 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:06.000 and I'm pretty sure it still exists. I think they 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:09.280 preserved it, but don't quote me on that. I'm talking 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.320 beautiful homes. If you're a Communist, you know you're one 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.800 of the leaders of the Communist Party, you have a 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:17.640 beautiful home. They set them up a cinema, they set 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.440 them up a restaurant, a sports complex. While everyone else 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:26.080 was starving. They had only the best foods, specialty chefs 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.840 brought in. You're living like royalty, and they had Stazi 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:34.200 guys guarding the place like a fortress. Nobody allowed in. 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.920 You and your family lived like a king. And that's 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.440 just for that's the leadership guys. But other people, you know, 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:46.400 the ninety thousand people who worked for the Stazi, they 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:52.240 eat just fine. The lights are on. If you're with them, 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:58.359 just like the system today. If you're with them, life 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:02.679 is easier and life is good. And if you're against them, 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.359 they will make your life a living hell, a living hell. 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.760 And that that is how you get a husband to 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:16.240 turn against his own wife, a son to turn against 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:21.359 his own father. And what do I mean by a 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:47.120 living hell? I'm gonna tell you. Hang on, No word 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:51.520 in English language is less convincing than probably. Are you 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.200 sure we should get matching tattoos on our first date? Sure? 0:21:55.600 --> 0:22:00.720 And we'll probably stay together. Probably. It's been twenty three 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:05.080 minutes since I ate. I can probably swim. You should 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:07.960 wait thirty minutes. Okay, don't tell me what to do. 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:16.120 Cad b cramp? Oh, I have a cramp. I can 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:23.479 probably hit the green from here? Probably? Can I get 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.880 a Mulligan ready to go? Hey? Are you sure you're 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:33.200 okay to drive? Yeah? I'm pretty sober. Yeah, I'm probably okay. 0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:38.720 Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it comes to drinking 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:41.480 and driving. If you're drinking, call a cab, a car, 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.000 or a friend. Buzz driving is drunk driving. A message 0:22:45.040 --> 0:23:01.520 brought to you by Nitza and ad council crisis that 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.960 has been perpetuated, in my view, by platforms like the 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:05.600 one where you used to work, Facebook as well as 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:10.080 Twitter and others. It's really hard because what's happening is 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.720 people are able to seek out the information that makes 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.320 them feel good. That is what happenings that you know, 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.200 people have so much choice now. They can choose what 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:21.239 their new sources are, they can choose what influencers they 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.760 want to follow, and they can try to seal out 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:28.399 anything that helps them question that. And I think that 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:33.080 gets to a really core issue with how our freedoms 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:35.960 as Americans, in the way we have treated press freedom 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.399 in the past, is being abused by these actors, and 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.800 that we have given a lot of leeway, both in 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.440 the traditional media and on social media to people to 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.639 have a very broad range of political views, and it 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.280 is now in the great economic interest of those individuals 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:53.639 to become more and more radical. And I think that 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:55.440 one of the places you can see this is on 0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.760 the fact that you now have competitors to Fox News 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:02.920 on their right and then Newsmax, which are carried by 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.439 all the major cable networks, who are trying to now 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.560 outflank Fox in the right because the moment Fox introduced 0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:13.760 any kind of realism into their reporting, immediately a bunch 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.919 of people chose to put themselves into a sealed ecosystem. 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:18.679 And they can do that both on cable, they can 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.879 do it online. And that becomes a huge challenge of 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.160 figuring out how do you bring those people back into 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.119 the mainstream of fact based reporting and try to get 0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:31.320 us all back into the same consensual reality and ken you, 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.800 is that possible seems that's an open question. It's hard. 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:36.520 I mean, I think we got to do a couple 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.160 of things. One, there needs to be an intentional work 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:42.000 by the social media companies collaborating together to work on 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:44.719 violent extremism in the same way they worked on ISIS. 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.680 When I started at Facebook in twenty fifteen, the number 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:51.000 one challenge from a content perspective was the abuse of 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.000 social media by the Islamic state, and there was a 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.919 collaboration between the tech companies and between the tech companies 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.879 and law enforcement to make it impossible for them to 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:04.200 use the Internet to recruit and radicalize mostly young musliment 0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.160 at the time around the world. Now we're talking about 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.600 domestic audience in the United States and the challenge is 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.840 going to be partially that isis did not have a 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.680 domestic constituency in the United States Congress, but there is 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:20.040 over half of the Republicans and Congress voted to overturn 0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:23.520 the election, and there will be a continual political pressure 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.320 on the companies to not take it seriously. So I think, 0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.720 first you have to focus on those violent extremists, and 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.240 those companies have to be brave in that way. And second, 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:34.000 we have to turn down the capability of these conservative 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:38.080 influencers to reach these huge audiences. There are people on YouTube, 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:42.120 for example, that have a larger larger audience than daytime CNN, 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:46.480 and they are extremely radical and pushing extremely radical views. 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.480 And so it's up to the facebooks and youtubes in 0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.399 particular to think about whether or not they want to 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.240 be effectively cable networks for disinformation. And then we're gonna 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.320 have to figure out the o ANN and Newsmax problem. 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.320 You know that these companies have freedom of speech, but 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:03.119 I'm not sure we need Verizon AT and T, Comcast 0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.520 and such to be bringing them into tens of millions 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:13.359 of homes. American communists are not different than communists have 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:18.800 always been. We'll get to more of that here in 0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:23.760 a few But how bad could it get in East Germany? Well, 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:28.320 remember we talked earlier about the mass collection of information 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:33.880 right all over the place. Your phone calls, they're listening. 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:39.240 You're on a radio somewhere that they're listening. You're having 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:44.600 a private conversation with somebody, even a friend, relative, husband, wife, 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.400 could very well be informing on you to the Stazi. 0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:55.200 And what are they looking for? Understand they're not looking 0:26:55.440 --> 0:27:01.560 for just oh well, he's organizing an underground network of 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.000 freedom fighters to fight against US. No. One of the 0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:10.560 main classifications they needed to arrest you was quote malcontents. 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.359 Not only did you have to be part of the 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.320 miserable communist system, you had to be happy about it. 0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.520 You don't get to march around looking for your job. 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:23.800 I don't like it that there's not enough food in 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.560 the grocery store. Oh man, this job doesn't pay well enough. 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.040 Oh I didn't you know what. This building's kind of ugly. 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.560 That's the kind of stuff that's enough to get you arrested. 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:40.000 Now let's talk about the arrest. Remember, they don't want 0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:43.760 it to be obvious what's happening. They don't come and 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.440 stop you in the street for the most part, pull 0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:48.800 you over though you in cuffs, take you downtown. That 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:53.520 would lead people to believe that everything isn't fine. No, 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.960 they come in the middle of the night, the early 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:59.600 early am, and they're not throwing you in the back 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.520 of a gigantic Stazi police car taking him down to 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.399 a Stazi jail. Don't worry, no, that throw you in 0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:10.320 the back of a bread truck, a laundry truck with 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:17.240 no windows on it. They obviously blindfold you, handcuff you. 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:22.560 They'll drive you around for hours and hours and hours 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:26.880 in the same town, so you have no idea where 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.360 you are. When they finally get you to the Stazi jails. 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.760 They're gonna get you to the Stazi jails, and then 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:40.600 they're going to start taking you apart, piece by piece. 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:45.520 And remember this, they didn't just find out about you 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.480 five minutes ago and then go place handcuffs on you. 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:56.640