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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, the season doesn't really start

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Speaker 1: until after Thanksgiving. From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL. Dan hansis Mark Sessler And yes, we've

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Speaker 1: been saying that forever because Mike France Sessa said it forever.

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Speaker 1: Who's told that nugget from Bill Parcels, one of the

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Speaker 1: great geniuses of the sports history. And you want to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's ridiculous at some drivetime BS, but it's true on

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Speaker 1: some level. It's absolutely true. You could take look at

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Speaker 1: any season and then look at everything that happens from

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Speaker 1: everything that happens from that point onward. It kind of

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Speaker 1: is two different seasons in many cases, and the second

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Speaker 1: part matters much more than the first. There's no way

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Speaker 1: to to to argue against that. It's entirely true in

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Speaker 1: so many ways. I'm not sure if you're a member

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Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans that you're walking around with banners

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Speaker 1: saying our season starts now, you kind of let yourself

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Speaker 1: to keep yourself. Meaning for some teams and others on

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Speaker 1: this front, but it's it's trench. I think it goes

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Speaker 1: without saying that. It's about the teams that are trying

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Speaker 1: I'll waste time by saying it. So I enjoyed a

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Speaker 1: little sad. I saw that the teams that have won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in the last four years have a

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Speaker 1: losing record in November, this actual time of year. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying Thanksgiving is after Essentially, this time of year

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Speaker 1: often is when teams that end up being very good

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Speaker 1: when here's the difference. Here's the difference. Because now you're

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Speaker 1: gonna say, oh yeah, because people say that about the NBA,

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Speaker 1: to which, by the way, two different sports, very different

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Speaker 1: established by a top ten insider long ago. The fall

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Speaker 1: is completely different than basketball summer. There's no reason why

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Speaker 1: I totally disagree as a baseball fan, though, Wouldn't that

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Speaker 1: offend you when people make fun of you watching between

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Speaker 1: there the efforts, and it's very predictive like teams in

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Speaker 1: Greig is going to obviously disagree with your comment, but

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Speaker 1: I would suggest and say, and I'm I'm not as

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Speaker 1: till the playoffs start. Yes, that's the national fan just

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Speaker 1: waits till the play same. But the point of sports

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Speaker 1: is you just enjoy watching it. So it's the same

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Speaker 1: reason you're watching the April Yankees game. Doesn't matter. It's

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Speaker 1: because it's fun to watch. Getting in the weeds here,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can still say the games themselves, there's

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Speaker 1: that's that's They're all in from April. You're not pictures

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Speaker 1: is taking twenty five days off because it's it's March

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Speaker 1: or April, especially Mark March start the show. Have we

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Speaker 1: the network program? Wells like thanks the season starts to

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and the network show starts now exactly, so reset. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it is the week twelve preview show. If you are

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Speaker 1: check out our social media because we're doing a live

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Speaker 1: show in Los Angeles UM on January January that the

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Speaker 1: Bourbon Room. Get your tickets, they are still available. Second

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Speaker 1: of all, we previewed all of the Thanksgiving games on

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Speaker 1: And there is some of the load management, not a

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Speaker 1: I wish it was better, but it's not bad. The

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Speaker 1: the dropped in a big spot. Um, here's the stat

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Speaker 1: for you. We got to get him in the makeup

431
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Speaker 1: chair before the show's he Now all right, I need

432
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Speaker 1: to shave Mike Vyble coming off extended rest a k

433
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Speaker 1: A following a bye or a Thursday night, built out

434
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Speaker 1: a board video board nine record averaging twenty eight point

435
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Speaker 1: four points per game, allowing ten point seven points per game,

436
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Speaker 1: with an average margin of victory of seventeen point seven points.

437
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Speaker 1: This was not a John Madden makeup the stats I researched.

438
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Speaker 1: It's like a many many Andy Reid scenario. Did you

439
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Speaker 1: and this for people that you're watching this in NFL network?

440
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Speaker 1: Did you build out a full video screen board for

441
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Speaker 1: every single game or was it just your team? No,

442
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Speaker 1: this was I sent these numbers over to Drew and

443
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Speaker 1: he decided to they were worthy of a of a

444
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Speaker 1: board that is it is notable. It's a great board,

445
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Speaker 1: and I think Mark said it. The coaching advantage is

446
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Speaker 1: clearly on their side. We don't know if Jamar Chase

447
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Speaker 1: is gonna play. They could be getting him back, which

448
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: is Uh said he expects him to play as much

449
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Speaker 1: as last week. Burrow said that, you know, sometimes the

450
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Speaker 1: players are a little more optimistic than than the then

451
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Speaker 1: the team. We'll see if Joe mix In plays, But

452
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Speaker 1: you're right to put up that many points without those

453
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Speaker 1: two guys last week. Their offense is starting to hume.

454
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Speaker 1: You have the game where Mixing dominates on the ground

455
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Speaker 1: against Carolina, who's a good run defense, and then you

456
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Speaker 1: dominate an average Steelers because you were kind of bagging

457
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Speaker 1: on the Bengals throughout the season and you've come around around.

458
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 1: Because I still have major doubts about the defense, and

459
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: right now we're talking about the offense specifically. They have

460
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Speaker 1: they have to show it. They also they need this game.

461
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Speaker 1: There their schedule after the Tennessee till Is, Kansas City,

462
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Speaker 1: Knew England, Buffalo, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and one one or

463
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Speaker 1: two other that's the hardest schedule exactly. So it's like

464
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Speaker 1: there are no breaks for the defending am C title.

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Speaker 1: We will take a break right now and then we'll

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Speaker 1: get back. We didn't go to the super Bowl the

467
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Speaker 1: Week twelve preview, we'll be right back, all right, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, let's get to the second pick. It is

469
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Speaker 1: the property of tug Boat and you know I want

470
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Speaker 1: to obviously it would have been a home run. Oh yeah,

471
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Speaker 1: Rams achieves. But the Rams were in that and the

472
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Speaker 1: schule everyone was expecting that was supposed to be a

473
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Speaker 1: big national game, supposed to the game of the year,

474
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Speaker 1: and instead it is not my pick. And so I

475
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Speaker 1: will go with the game that's most interesting to me,

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Speaker 1: which is the Bears at the Jets. Greggy, Um just

477
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 1: giving you, just give them to you a little bit

478
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Speaker 1: on being slow on Cincinnati's offense, which you push back on,

479
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Speaker 1: and that's fine. Now I'm gonna give you some not flowers.

480
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you something else, a trophy credit, Yes, credit,

481
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: because you did properly forecast the Jets quarterback situation. Because

482
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Speaker 1: Robert Sala announced in his press conference on Wednesday morning

483
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Speaker 1: that yes, Zach Wilson is bench, not even just bench,

484
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Speaker 1: He's inactive for this game against the Bears, and it

485
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Speaker 1: will be Mike White who draws the start. And I

486
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Speaker 1: have some thoughts on this, but let's let's hear from

487
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Speaker 1: Roberts Sala on the decision. So the big thing I

488
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Speaker 1: want to make sure I address on this one, Um,

489
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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you guys all listen

490
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Speaker 1: to those very carefully. Please, Zack's career here is not over.

491
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Speaker 1: That's going to be the narrative. I know that what

492
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: that's what everybody wants to wants to shout out, and

493
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: that's not even close to the case. The intent, the

494
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Speaker 1: full intent is to make sure Zach gets gets back

495
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Speaker 1: on the football field at some point this year, which

496
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: is interesting, but that that that's kind of hollow because

497
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Speaker 1: if Mike White plays really well, they're not taking that

498
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Speaker 1: guy out of the lineup. I don't think that happens,

499
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Speaker 1: but I thought so the a t N media insider. Obviously,

500
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Speaker 1: when this news comes down, I got I got text

501
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 1: out all over to people that know things, UM, and

502
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: the general just I'm getting is that this it could

503
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Speaker 1: just could not be ignored what was happening in that

504
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Speaker 1: locker room. And that's the one thing I didn't take

505
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Speaker 1: into account when I thought when they would give the

506
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: truth that when um, the Jets wide receivers and the

507
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 1: skill players have hit a tipping point, a breaking point

508
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Speaker 1: and slid had it almost had to make this move

509
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Speaker 1: to save the locker room relationship. Uh. And that's that

510
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Speaker 1: was my first take, Greg that this has to be

511
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Speaker 1: way worse behind the scenes than is even being reported.

512
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Speaker 1: And we've heard some trickles out there that the way

513
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Speaker 1: Wilson was carrying himself even behind the scenes, was rubbing

514
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Speaker 1: certain players the wrong way, obviously said the wrong things

515
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Speaker 1: in the press con but it put the Jets in

516
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Speaker 1: the position and solid position to take a number two

517
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Speaker 1: overall picked from last year and now put him on

518
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Speaker 1: the bench. Extraordinary thing has had to be happening behind

519
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Speaker 1: the scenes, and that was what I thought. I I agree,

520
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Speaker 1: because they're the ones watching the tape every week. I mean,

521
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: they're in it more practicing every week. They know how

522
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Speaker 1: bad he is. And I just think it's gotten a

523
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Speaker 1: little spun that like, well, he's a second year player,

524
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Speaker 1: and well this or that. It's like you're trying to

525
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Speaker 1: win games. And I think Robert Salah views this a

526
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Speaker 1: little more as a defensive coach and maybe a former

527
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Speaker 1: defensive player, then if you were an offensive coach and

528
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Speaker 1: you're trying to win games. And I think the way

529
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Speaker 1: he positioned it there, I was glad he did it

530
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Speaker 1: that way, that this isn't the end of his career.

531
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Speaker 1: It was interesting that he said that the hope to plan,

532
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Speaker 1: the intent is to even get him back this year.

533
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Speaker 1: I kind of expect that myself, even when he made this,

534
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: that he's viewing it like we're gonna sit him down.

535
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: That quarterbacks shouldn't be so fragile and so much different

536
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Speaker 1: than every other position that you can't rotate them a

537
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: little about sit him down. Obviously, it is different than

538
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: other positions, and you have to handle it differently publicly.

539
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: And they're the most important player and then they're the

540
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: only one that touches the ball. But this doesn't mean

541
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Speaker 1: that his season's over, his career is over. But he's

542
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: not allowing them to win. And they're no dummies. He's

543
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: playing terrible. And it's not it's not that one game

544
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. It's all the games. It's the games

545
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: that they won and that he contributed a tiny little

546
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: bit to helping them win. And it's looking at the

547
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: stats the last couple of years when Mike White and

548
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco were running the same offenses and they were

549
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: actually including all these other great players that are on

550
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: the team. Corey Davis, now he's hurt, but he was there,

551
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: and Elijah More and now you want to see Garrett

552
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Wilson like you did early in the year, like let's

553
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: include them in the game plan, and we can do

554
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: that with Michael It's a it's a huge move and

555
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: I I really love it by Robert Sala because it

556
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: shows me no matter where he was on this four

557
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: days ago, when it's or a week ago, and it

558
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: was like, this is not we're not making a change.

559
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: You listen to your locker room. Because this this came

560
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: around team meetings UM and they were asked. Sal was asked,

561
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: did Zach Wilson lose the locker room? And his quote

562
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: I found to be pretty telling. He said, maybe there's

563
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: a little irritation at the moment dot dot dot, but

564
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: I don't think there's hate, which is a very strong

565
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: word to even bring up there, Right, But I thought

566
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: that was also kind of telling, not telling on the team,

567
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: but the amount of frustration behind the scenes is that

568
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: he feels they don't hate him, they just really don't

569
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Speaker 1: like him or the way he's believed that they can

570
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: go win a title this year. Right, But that that's

571
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: the football part and I get it. But I think

572
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: the other thing is, like, you don't this is a

573
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: first round pick that this does like two, I think

574
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: there is a question. I'm not trying to like create

575
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: a hot take here, but with these things conspiral to

576
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: a certain place where they've got to figure out who

577
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: they are after this special season going forward, we may not.

578
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure we see Zach Wilson again as

579
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: a Jet starter. I think all thats on how these

580
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: backups play and who knows this flack will get a

581
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: shot if White doesn't play the guitar um. I think

582
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: you hit on it a little bit yesterday, Mark that

583
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: the Jets developed faster than anyone expected, which just a

584
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: good thing. Yes which is had played into why this

585
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: happened at all, because of the Jets were still bad

586
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: like last year, probably wouldn't have been a big story.

587
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: The one thing I will push back against Greg that

588
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: you said it's not just the Patriots loss, but I

589
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: think both Patriots losses in three weeks. What that means

590
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: for the organization, the fans, the players getting embarrassed m

591
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: by the way things played out on Sunday and how

592
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: that game ended, I think whether it should be or not,

593
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: I think that played a bigger part than just his

594
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: season long struggles. It was flopping against that team that matters.

595
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: Art Wilson say, you know, losing the teams we should

596
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: be beating. It was like, oh man, you're talking about

597
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots in but that's how they felt. And even

598
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: thinking back to Zach Wilson immediately after that first loss,

599
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: being like, well, we'll see him again in two weeks.

600
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: I think the Jets, to Robert Sala's credit, are supremely

601
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: confid team who thinks they're really good for a good reason,

602
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: and that's helped them be this good and so losing

603
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: to that Patriots team in the way that they did

604
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: pretty crazy on the bare side of it. As we

605
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: get into this game, Justin Fields, uh was cleared to

606
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday, so you know, he was described as

607
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: day to day by ebra Flos on Monday. The fact

608
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: that he's cleared to practice as this tapes, I don't know.

609
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but let's assume he does practice today.

610
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: That does most likely, barring a setback, put him on

611
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: track to play against the Jets, who, as we talked about,

612
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: have a very good pass rush and we'll get after

613
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: our quarterback and uh, Justin Fields will take a beating

614
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: every once in a while behind that offensive line. So

615
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: that's something to track. But I as a fan, I

616
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: want to see Justin Fields on the field. It will

617
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: make it a interesting game as a Jets fan. Though,

618
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: if Trevor Simeon plays in this game, it's like lock Central,

619
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: whereas if Justin Fields plays and he's moving around well enough,

620
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: they have a chance. I think the Jets run defense

621
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: is good, but I'd still rather try to run on

622
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: them in general, certainly when Justin Fields is your quarterback

623
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: and they run block well uh in Chicago, and I

624
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: think I'd give him a chance with Justin Fields. Otherwise,

625
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: It's tough because the other side of this Mike White

626
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: move is the schedule for the Jets in terms of

627
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: the defenses they're facing, could not be easier. And the

628
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: Bears defense, since they traded Roquan Smith, is dead last

629
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Speaker 1: in the league in d V O A and e

630
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Speaker 1: p A. They're they're a terrible defense. And this starts

631
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a run of games where you would think Mike White

632
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: can have some You just see vaguely competent quarterback played

633
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: for two sidecar this Jets defense, and you could be

634
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: on a roll. I mean, Jets defense could make life

635
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: tough for Fields. Is in there not five plus sacks

636
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: and three straight games they've never that's the longest streak

637
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: of that in Jets history. We were talking about Jets

638
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: pass rush and needing this or that for a long time.

639
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: It's coming from different parts of the defensive line. They

640
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: are totally well coached and formidable. It's the biggest challenge

641
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: that justin fields, if he plays will face solid. Has

642
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: done a great job overall, and justin fields, how much

643
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: is he meant to this offense. He leads the NFL

644
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: with fifteen offensive touchdowns since weeks seven, so they need

645
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: him on the field. The next pick goes to Greg Rosenthal.

646
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Ravens and the Jaguars, two teams

647
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: I haven't got to watch enough this season and that

648
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: I enjoy, and I think this game is going to

649
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: be closer than people expect that. Actually the Ravens aren't

650
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: even favored by that much because the Jaguars managed it's

651
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: a four point it's a four point spread here, and

652
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: the Ravens have looked great on defense the last few weeks.

653
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm really intrigued by this game. Because

654
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has played his best two games in terms

655
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: of two games in a row the last couple of

656
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: weeks before the bye of his career, really good decision

657
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: making through the ball accurately. And now he plays a

658
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: defense which is creeping up on the conversation. I think

659
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: as the best defense in the league because you look

660
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: at all the different levels and you think back to

661
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: September when they were giving up all those big plays.

662
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: That is not this team anymore. They're healthier. I think

663
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: ro Kuan Smith has unlocked Patrick Queen. Queen has been

664
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: a really strange player for the Ravens where he's incredibly

665
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: boom or bust, and I kind of thought their defense

666
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: goes as Patrick Queen goes. And now he's not asked

667
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: to make the calls. He's just kind of over there

668
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: at the week side, asked to just make big plays,

669
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: and he's been on fire the last couple of games.

670
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith is obviously very good, can be good in

671
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: coverage against uh some of the Travis c Tn and

672
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: what they like to do with their running backs in

673
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: the passing game. I think that matchup. Jaguars on offense

674
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Ravens on defense. Khalias Campbell are guys playing great, like

675
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: their secondaries very deep. They had all those injuries, but

676
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: most of those guys have come back. I think they

677
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: really could end up carrying this team, along with Lamar,

678
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: to a great stretch run because they have a very

679
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: easy schedule. The Bengals are the only team that the

680
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: Ravens play the rest of the year that have a

681
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: winning record. It sets up well. And to your point,

682
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen has his two best grades of the season

683
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: since Roquan Smith hit the scene last week. I think

684
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: what you saw from like in a tight, weird game

685
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: against the Panthers where they needed someone to step up,

686
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: the play of Marcus Peters and the play of Marlon

687
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: Humphrey just showed you that this defense, when you're getting

688
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: that linebacker play and you're you're getting up front it

689
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: it kind of just sets the whole situation up to succeed.

690
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: And I think the Ravens right now, when they're good

691
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: on offense, can completely beguile an opponent. We saw that

692
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: against the Saints. Uh, the Jaguars, to me, do not

693
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: I like what we've seen. We've been asking for this

694
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: from Trevor Lawrence and he got the number two and

695
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: number three PFF scores of any quarterback in the league

696
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: his last two games. To your point about it finally

697
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: showing us that he can do this without the wacky overthrows,

698
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: the off target passes. He's diminishing some of that. He's

699
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: making plays. Travis E. T N is averaging a hundred

700
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: two yards per game, so it does present some challenges

701
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: for the Ravens. But I am very confident that Baltimore

702
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: will take this. Extremely confident. Hi extreme top levels of confidence.

703
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: Where I'm taking out my key and sticking it in

704
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: the lock and I'm locking it up. Dan's gonna do

705
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: it too. Now I can just feel it, and well,

706
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: we've had great success when you when we've done that together,

707
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: I will take that key, all right, I thank you sure,

708
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: and it'll drive to the ocean and I will throw

709
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: that key into the Pacific. That's what you because it

710
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: will never be opened, because I too will lock up.

711
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: This is a really good set up I think for

712
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 1: your yours isn't locked yet because you threw it in

713
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: the ocean. And it's still the reason why. It's because

714
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: I don't even use the lock to lock a padlock.

715
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: I just click it. I think we have the same lock.

716
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: You chose to use the key. What you could do

717
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: that way too? Actually that's not how you, not really,

718
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: but what I did. I took the key. We don't

719
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: need to worry about opening this, so I just threw it.

720
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Not a great team. So if you get the and

721
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: it's in the ocean, do I just win the competition

722
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: for the year and I'll discover it something tugboat will

723
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: take us out and then people. The Ravens offense is

724
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: it's a thing. They average thirty three points a game

725
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: in the first uh three weeks, They've averaged twenty one

726
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: point three points per games. Since it's the passing game

727
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: mostly that's an issue. The running game is very good.

728
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: Um the um Lamar jackson stats are down obviously along

729
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: with that, but the Ravens are up against the Jacksonville defense.

730
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: It's in league and passing yardage allowed. They do not

731
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: get to the quarterback, not that they could even if

732
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: they tried with the Lamar, but that's gonna potentially open

733
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: up great, great situations for Lamar Lamar both passing and

734
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. And with Mark Andrews another week back

735
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: from his injury, I think this is gonna be a

736
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: get right game for the offense. And doesn't mean Trevor

737
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence isn't going to continue his ascent, but he has

738
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: a tall task out of him as well. I like

739
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: this as a let's say, seventeen win. Yeah, I just

740
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: think it's so different for teams that don't regularly see

741
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: a Lamar Jackson, they don't regularly see a Justin Fields.

742
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not that concerned about a team not

743
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: having seen Trevor Lawrence. You can deal with that. But

744
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: like Division A f C North opponents have spent entire

745
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: off seasons figuring out how to stop Lamar Jackson. The

746
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars not so much. And I just always think that's

747
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: an extra little advantage for these running quarterbacks. I liked

748
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: how DeMarcus Robinson really stepped up last week and what

749
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: maybe the best game of his career. If he can

750
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: be a steady number two to Andrews, because Duvernet is

751
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: just not that guy, that would really help. They might

752
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: get Gus Edwards back. The running game definitely struggled, and

753
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: John Harbaugh had some optimism about Ronnie Stanley and Kyle

754
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Hamilton's two of their key starters especial family that they

755
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: might even be playing this week, so that that's a

756
00:37:54,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: good sign for for the Ravens office. Greggy, I'm going

757
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks. Seahawks and Raiders. I think I've watched

758
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Geno live in almost every game possible this year. And

759
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: now the fun stuff is starting to happen. Their schedule

760
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: really is favorable. If the Seahawks keep winning these games

761
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: as favorites, they're gonna go to the playoffs. They might

762
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: even win the division or get a high seed. But

763
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: I think there's still such a young team that you

764
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: can't assume too many things. They're coming off of a

765
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: buy here, and offensively, I want to see them show

766
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: that they can dominate and win a game without a

767
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: lot of help from the defense, because this Raiders defense

768
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: is so consistently bad it makes no sense. Max Crosby

769
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 1: is on this team, and as Baldy, our our friend

770
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger likes to point out every week, Yeah, well

771
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: we've done a lot of sort of work friendship. He

772
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: once gave us advice, remember the career advice That was nice.

773
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: It was terrible advice though, No, I don't remember what

774
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: it was. I uh, I don't get it. If you

775
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: look on Football Outsiders, they have a stack called variance,

776
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: which is like how consistent the team is week to week.

777
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: The Raiders defense is by far the most consistent defense

778
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: in the league. They are consistently terrible, Like they never

779
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: even have a lease where they pop up unless they're

780
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: playing the Broncos, right, I guess they're a little bit

781
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: even then. I think Russell Wilson had his best two

782
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: games of the year against the Raiders defense, and so

783
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 1: you look at Geno Smith and you look at the options,

784
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: especially in the secondary that he's going to have. The

785
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: Raiders past defense is so bad that you just think

786
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: they should be able to put up thirty. So I

787
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: want to see Pete Carroll stay aggressive coming out of

788
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: the bye, go pass first, and go put thirty up

789
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: and hopefully not sweat this game out too much. I'm

790
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: a little worried about this game for your Seahawks. I

791
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: feel like the Raiders um with the pressure off their back.

792
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: They know they're kind of out of it, and the

793
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: owner gave him a little bit of a pass here

794
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: just to lay ball. They're coming off a win and

795
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: some good vibes and overtime finally winning a close game.

796
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 1: I could see them feeling pretty good going to Seattle

797
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: to face the Seahawks team that you just started like

798
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: to root against the sea I'm just saying the Seattle

799
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: showed maybe a little bit of some cracks in Munich.

800
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: Their struggles to get off the field on third down,

801
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: which were massive in the early portion of the season.

802
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: Um it returned the Brady Bucks were ten of thirteen

803
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: on third down conversions and not kneel down situations. And

804
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: I could just see those third downs again. With Derek

805
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: Carr and Davante Adams the best wide receiver in the league. Maybe, um,

806
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna give him a lot. They're gonna even have games.

807
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: They're a good offense, and I tend to agree that

808
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: it'll play itself close. I I don't feel a lot

809
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: of concern for the Seahawks in this. I I appreciate

810
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: your appreciation for the Raiders in the stand, but this

811
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: is a terrible defense. Gino Smith has been deadly with

812
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: the deep passing. He if he has three are more

813
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: deep touchdown shots this season, he breaks the n GS

814
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: record going back to That's not what we thought Geno

815
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Smith was two months ago. I mean we we greg

816
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: you had the Geno Smith on thing going on in

817
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: the off season. I think that we have to just

818
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: see this is who he is. At this point, there's

819
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: so many ex teammates coming out of the woodwork saying

820
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: little nuggets about who Gino was and preparing and those

821
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: when he was in the shadows that this is the guy.

822
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: It's not going away. And I know the Bucks shut

823
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: down the run game in Germany that I think was

824
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: a big reason Seattle couldn't get on unshelled there early on,

825
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: but they played well down the stretch. Gino made some

826
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: throws in that game. I thought what Mark Sanchez said

827
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: on our show last week was the most enlightening thing

828
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: I've heard about Geno Smith and it it unlocks a lot,

829
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: and unlocked a lot for me because the Geno Smith

830
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: that was on the Jets six or seven years ago

831
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: is not this guy. Like that was the whole thing,

832
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: Like he even said Sanchez, the guy was skinny, fat

833
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: like he was. He was a young, undeveloped quarterback who

834
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: hadn't learned how to play the position. He ended up

835
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: going through the wars of the NFL, and to his credit, Gino,

836
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: he learned the right lessons from the right players when

837
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: he was out of the shadows. And the guy that

838
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: has emerged and yet like he you know, but I'm saying,

839
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: like this is not who he's always been, but this

840
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: has been a road that he was on and and

841
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: I think he deserves credit for that, and I think

842
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll deserves credit for that, because I think what

843
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: Carol saw um in the last year or two years

844
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: or three years was that this guy had been had

845
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: changed none of else, none of us had seen it

846
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: yet Greg on some level did, but it was kind

847
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: of a bit that turned into a real thing. I

848
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: always thought early on he showed true quarterbacking skills with

849
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: some problems too, but the type of things that lead

850
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: to a long career, so that I just thought that

851
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: she has comments really unlocked things for me, and I agree.

852
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be a collapse this year.

853
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: I would have thought that a couple of months ago,

854
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: but now it seems like what we've learned is that

855
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: this is a different guy, so different, and he's gonna

856
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: go out to get the win this week. I thought

857
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: long and hard about locking the Ravens, but I was

858
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: afraid everyone would be on that game and I was right.

859
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: So instead I'm locking the Seahawks. I like that, Yeah,

860
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: I like that. Is that a Seahawks? You just don't

861
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: seem very confident. It was like a guy that slightly

862
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: shaking the locker for a team that lost by thirty seven.

863
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Points last week. I'm never confident in my lock ever. Again,

864
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: You're Titans, Justin, they have lost once in two months.

865
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: If you just and you know they're playing this week,

866
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: if you just picked the Titans every week, I promise

867
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: you you're gonna come out of this in good shape. Well,

868
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: I would have more correct wins than I do now

869
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: with six because the Titans have eight. Dan's trying to

870
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: lure you into a tough spot this week, so I

871
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't listen. I still like and enjoy that the lock

872
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: competition is an individual competition, but there is something satisfying

873
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: that Dan, myself, and Mark are ahead of all these

874
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: other hangers on like Justin s pros and it started

875
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: with us. That was like a little snapshot into Gregg's brain.

876
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: How we've used anyone else you like to trash talk.

877
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: Craig has also tried to bury and remove the segment

878
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: from our life multiple times, intentionally doing worse than you, guys,

879
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: so that you stay at the time. That's smart. Anything else,

880
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: I think we're good, We're good. Derek Carter, I think

881
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: is playing for his job the next seven weeks, and

882
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: I think he can play well enough to keep it.

883
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: Quarterback but I think you can play well enough to

884
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: keep it. But I think that's a big part of

885
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. You know, he's coming off

886
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: a good game. Contracts so easy if they want by

887
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: three year saying you'll be happy, but you'll sweat it

888
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: out that I tend to agree. I'm going by like

889
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: four to six every time I throwed a break. Are

890
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: you going to do that? Yes, we'll be right back,

891
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: got you all right? Welcome back, and it's now time

892
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's drive over

893
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: to Santa Clara where the San Francisco Forts and the

894
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints will do battle. Is that what you wanted? Mark? Yeah,

895
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: but but I think that's just logical. After this contest,

896
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: the slate turns grizzly, very ugly. It gets real ugly. Um,

897
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: this game is good because not that I buy into

898
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: the Saints, but maybe maybe there's a last gas run

899
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: in this team. Probably not, though the more likely situation here,

900
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: um for me is you get to watch San Francisco's

901
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: offense again, which is um obviously unbelievable performance against Arizona,

902
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: and I just I'm enjoying watching how Kyle Shanahan and

903
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo are making this whole thing work. And um,

904
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, Greg, I heard you and Zomalt in the

905
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Monday Night recap and you were talking about, you know,

906
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: how they um, how how wisely they were distributing the

907
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: targets and where like McCaffrey comes into this offense, which

908
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: is interesting and that he's a essentially a checkdown dude,

909
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: but the way the offense is so you know, the

910
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: defenses have to account for this offense. He gets the

911
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: ball in space in a checkdown situation and he always

912
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: makes the first guy missed, and he always turns four

913
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: yards into seven, eight into twelve, and twelve into more.

914
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: And so you have that working, and you have the

915
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: idea that this team when everybody's on the field and

916
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: Garoppolo in a healthy place physically and mentally, which we

917
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: can't forget that he was they were trying to get

918
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: rid of him a few months ago. I think that's

919
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: one of the craziest things about this season in the NFL,

920
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: that they were done with Jimmy g They had they

921
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: had quotes on the record, We did segments about it

922
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,919
Speaker 1: with Kyle Shannon on the record, and now he's staring

923
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes on Monday Night Football and looking awesome.

924
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: I think San Francisco, who are number five in the

925
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: Power rankings ring right now, they are as good as

926
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: anybody in football right now. They're right, they're gonna be

927
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: rising up because I think they've now with the McCaffrey

928
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: trade works. Um, you you shipped into a coach that

929
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: knows how to use them. There's just too many weapons

930
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: here for defenses to deal with. And we talked about

931
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: the Cardinals matchup as a team in Arizona that could

932
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: not deal with the yards after the catch and they

933
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: just went nuts. Deebo Samuel had all nine targets were

934
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: fewer than ten air yards and he's and he's just

935
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: doing what he normally does. Jimmy g has won four

936
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: teen games in a row and he doesn't throw an interception.

937
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: So you're getting this version of Jimmy G over the

938
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: last month plus and the clean version of Jimmy Garoppolo

939
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: can take them to the super Bowl. They're deep. It's

940
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: by the way, where's the weakness. The defense is absolutely

941
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: destroying team. So the Saints to me that you know

942
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: they go get destroyed by Pitts for a couple of

943
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Andy Dalton's a turnover machine. Last week he

944
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: looks great. They're just so up and down. But I

945
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: don't see them coming in here and finding a way

946
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: to snuff out the Niners. I don't know if anyone

947
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: can at this point, right I look at this matchup

948
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: and it was kind of a a great, relatively forgotten

949
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: classic playoff game about a decade ago that was one

950
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 1: of my one of my favorite. Yeah, and and Drew

951
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: Brees going at it. I mean it was maybe the

952
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: best moment of Alex Smith's career. I loved that game.

953
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: And I look at these two franchises and and yeah,

954
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: the Saints are coming off a win. I felt like

955
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: that was fool's gold. The Rams are slump busters right now.

956
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: They make you feel like you actually might be back

957
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: in this season like the Cardinals. And then no, then

958
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: you gotta play the forty Niners in face reality, when

959
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: you look at the two lines, and the forty Niners

960
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: are quietly healthier than they've been other times in the year.

961
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: They're getting healthier, they're adding guys like McCaffrey, whereas the

962
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: Saints are still really injured on both sides. When you

963
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: look at that defensive line of the forty Niners matching

964
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: up against the Saints, it is should be a blood bath.

965
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: And then when you look on the other side and

966
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: the Saints can't get any pass rush pressure at the

967
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: end of that game when they law Peyton Turner and

968
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: Davenport's hurt and Cam Jordan's hurt, they got no pressure

969
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: on the Rams, but it was the Rams, so they

970
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: couldn't take advantage. They actually made Stafford look better than

971
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: he's looked all year. So when you're dominating up front

972
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: like that, I think this is gonna be a total

973
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 1: take it to the woodshed situation. And we're not allowed

974
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: to lock up games over seven. We should be allowed

975
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: to lock up the points spread because that's supposed to

976
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: be fifty fifty. But you know what the version you

977
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: can up the point spread is. It's when it starts

978
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: rated up in the Bay Area. The Rainmakers coming outs

979
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: are covering nine easy. It's gonna be your party in

980
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Santa Clara. Say please watch us on NFL Network or

981
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: any other format, because the Rainmaker graphic behind Greg and

982
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: I right now is marvelous, and it's on one of

983
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: the days where Greg was wearing the glasses and the vibes, Yeah,

984
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 1: that vibe sorrow Clark kent vibe Clarke. And I did

985
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: say Bizarro agitated accountants across the spreadsheet salesman kind of

986
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: like um overwork guidance counselor in the inner city from

987
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: kind that you need a new graphic. You know what,

988
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: the grain makers doing great this year three and one,

989
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: So you say the grain makers with me? Also, you

990
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: know what, last thing on the night his offense, which

991
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: is so fun to watch. I'm very happy with this

992
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: pick in the draft of considering everything. Um Elijah Mitchell,

993
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: who I really like as well, who is there maybe

994
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: kind of their lead uh ball carrier, like even though

995
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is there. The way this offense has looked last

996
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, he had one touch in the

997
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: first half, and I think Shannahan was even asked about

998
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: asked about it bout ESPN and then almost like Shannahan

999
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: had to check a box. He's like, I know, h'im

1000
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: gonna score like three or four touchdowns. Let me just

1001
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: make sure he gets So I just gave it to

1002
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: him for eight for sixty. Every time he touched the ball.

1003
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: It was five six, seven, eight yards pop and everything's

1004
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: working right now. The only thing if I'm a Niner

1005
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: stand is is like, don't peek now. Don't peek now,

1006
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: because the team right now could beat anybody in the league.

1007
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: Just stay healthy, because it feels like that's been an

1008
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: issue where the Niners year after year and and get

1009
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: dominant defensively. This is a matchup where I think you

1010
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: should be able to get after Andy Dalton, who's throwing

1011
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: the ball well when he has time, but he shouldn't

1012
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: have time. It was nice to see Jarvis Landry out

1013
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: there again making plays. I mean, their offense shouldn't be

1014
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: that bad, but I have no faith in that Saints

1015
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: defense to slow them down. Yeah, it's also possible that

1016
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: this team is hitting and stride at Thanksgiving and just

1017
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: rolls through the rest of the year and there's a

1018
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: Lombardi they have that look. And that was the Sunday

1019
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: Drive presented by Toyota Mark Cecily. You're up next, all right, Well,

1020
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: if we're a green is a group that we've just

1021
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: got dogs left on the schedule here. I'm gonna pick

1022
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: things that I like to watch, and I like to

1023
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: watch the offense that hails from Miami. So I'm gonna

1024
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: take Dolphins Texans. UM, I don't expect this aim to

1025
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: be extremely competitive. After watching a Texans team that squeezed

1026
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: out five yards in the first half against Washington a

1027
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: week ago, that was a game that I covered, I

1028
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: found that, UM a fascinating little moment in the day

1029
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: to see an offense UH dive bomb is to such

1030
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: a degree that they have taken Davis Mills, shoved him

1031
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: into the background and replaced him with Kyle Allen. I

1032
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: don't know what we're expecting to get from it. Probably is,

1033
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: but at least we think we can you can convince

1034
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: the casual fan that it's a different human being Jerseys.

1035
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: We saw Leo Jerseys, but go ahead, and we saw

1036
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen win a game internationally, something not many NFL quarterback.

1037
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: It's a very different quarterback though. He's kind of a

1038
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: gun slinger that's gonna throw the ball deep and give

1039
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: the other team a lot of chances where David's Mills

1040
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: is to a fault, incredibly safe over Davis Mills on

1041
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: this podcast. So's my point is, even last year, Davis

1042
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: Mills was sort of defined by just play it very safe,

1043
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: don't make a mistake, don't make any big throws either.

1044
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: But Kyle Allen is more the Dan Rno quarterbacks. Now,

1045
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen's more the Taylor Heinecky. I would say nineteen.

1046
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: Good job, though, Mark, this is kind of similar to

1047
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: my San Francisco pick, where it's I kind of got

1048
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: a feeling the which way this game is gonna go.

1049
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: But at least you might get to see a team

1050
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: that's impressive on the field. I mean, I also I

1051
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: love seeing the two uh debates sort of just diminish

1052
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 1: it to my interest level entirely. At this point, he's

1053
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: been perfect in this offense, and we said this week

1054
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: after week, there's nothing else that Browns game was different.

1055
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: Didn't you feel I thought it was better? Yeah. I

1056
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: think he's I think he's honestly just also it's a

1057
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: new offense for him. He's growing in a week and

1058
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: we I see what you're saying, dam But it's also

1059
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: you're not. You're not. But it's like it's always when

1060
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: there is someone who is a figure of doubt, it's

1061
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: always gonna be okay. But now do this thing next.

1062
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: All he's being asked to do so, but look at

1063
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: look at where I remember, and I was banging the

1064
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 1: drum on this for a long time in the podcast

1065
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: earlier this season, where they were stacking yardage but scoring

1066
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: six twenty points each week, and then that changed starting

1067
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: three weeks ago or four weeks ago. There's a bye

1068
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: here at Detroit, they put up thirty one and win.

1069
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 1: At Chicago they put up thirty five and win. Versus

1070
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: the Browns, they put up thirty nine and win. That

1071
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: much credit due Texans, they're gonna put up forty and

1072
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna win. I got San Francisco circles. Makes total sense.

1073
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: Let me see what TUA does against the top competition

1074
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: of big time defense, and then I will ask no

1075
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: more questions. That'll be exciting, but to A and the

1076
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: Dolphins and then Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs have separated

1077
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: themselves to me as the best too offenses in the

1078
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: league by far, because they're doing what a lot of

1079
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: great offenses did back in a different era, which was

1080
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: the highest scoring season in NFL history, and somehow it's

1081
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: way different right now. And that thing that they do

1082
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: is they're a great offense that drops a hammer consistently

1083
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: on terrible defenses, and and that's unique in itself, like

1084
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: that's a sign of a truly great offense. They're so unique.

1085
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: I went back to watch that Browns game and I

1086
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: loved it because they're breaking defenses. Their receivers are just

1087
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: so deep when he gets to the back of his

1088
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: drop that they're already like seventeen yards down the field.

1089
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: And do you try to play some man coverage against them?

1090
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,399
Speaker 1: I think that's what the Patriots didn't Week one. They're

1091
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna try to do it when they play again, because

1092
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: backing up in zone and just trying to deal with

1093
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: that opens up so much space for the running game,

1094
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: opens up so much space for the secondary receivers like

1095
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Surfield and Gasicky that it's like you're already losing before

1096
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: the place starts and you're hoping to can't make those

1097
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: tough throws, And that was what was different about that

1098
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 1: Browns game. Receivers weren't that wide open on the throws

1099
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: he made to the outside. There he was putting it

1100
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: into tough spots deep down the field and on the sideline,

1101
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: and it's because of his timing and the offensive line

1102
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: is in sync. It's just it's really something He reminds

1103
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 1: me a little bit if he reaches his ceiling obviously

1104
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: or beyond his ceiling that I expected was of Kurt Warner.

1105
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: Just like the timing and the touch is there that Yeah,

1106
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: the arms not there, but it doesn't matter because the

1107
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: balls out at the perfect time and it gets there

1108
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: even in tight coverage. He he did that against the bed.

1109
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: In years past he was not protected. Well, he was

1110
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: put under the dress. Uh, that's a better situation for him.

1111
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: I just think it is an incredible testament to the

1112
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: Dolphins that not unlike when Kyle Shanahan went to San Francisco,

1113
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: they were so feverish in the off season in free

1114
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,280
Speaker 1: agency to build the Shanahan offense, get the right parts.

1115
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: It wasn't the perfect parts, but the way to make

1116
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: it work as fast as possible. It's not and we're

1117
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 1: a year three of this program or we're still looking

1118
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: for the right guy. They the Dolphins went out and

1119
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: did it so quickly under Mike McDaniel. They are a

1120
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: completely different operation than a year ago. They have the

1121
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: number one past Steve o a above the Chiefs in

1122
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: the league. Right now, they're a dominant offense. Steve Young

1123
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: was the guy I think is the lefty side. I

1124
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: think Young was more athletic, but his ability to the

1125
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: accuracy and the way he gets the ball right where

1126
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: it needs to be. Uh, that's too when he's locked

1127
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: in and and I know Dolphins fans, I'm gonna get

1128
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: it in. I mentions, Oh what about the week to

1129
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: win against the Ravens. True, that was an awesome fourth quarter,

1130
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: But I'm really looking forward to now that the season

1131
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: has really kind of found it's footing and these teams

1132
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: are where they are. Um, I'm gonna put it this way.

1133
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: I'm very happy I have the first overall pick next week.

1134
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: But they also beat the Bills, by the way. But

1135
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: to Dan's point, though, it's different as the season builds

1136
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: and so we never We'll see him against the Fortys

1137
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: that's awesome. We'll see him against the Bills, that's awesome.

1138
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see them against the Patriots and Jets

1139
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: certainly a second time. So Belichia can ever be too

1140
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: because he's not done it yet, right, but what he

1141
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: has done it like this and it was only Week one,

1142
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: but they scored ten points on offense, so that was

1143
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: like actually their worst to a game. Can let's also

1144
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: week one in the new skate, like I think we're in.

1145
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: It's not that that Matthew Stafford with the Rams when

1146
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: they broke out of the slump a year ago. It's

1147
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: like new quarterback, new scheme, it doesn't happen. And when

1148
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: it didn't happen with Kyle Shanahan and the Falcons had

1149
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: happened in shame. And we want to see great on great.

1150
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: And that's what's fun about the schedule. At San Francisco

1151
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: at Chargers, at Bill's home, Packers Easy at Patriots home Jets.

1152
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: Those are a lot of good defenses. East play all

1153
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: against each other, and it's kind of it's amazing how

1154
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: there's no losing records in either Eastern did got a

1155
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: lot of respect for what two of the Dolphins has done.

1156
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: By the end of the regular season, we're gonna know

1157
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: if they're an actual contender, well know, or to even

1158
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: go to the playoffs, we'll see, well, that would be

1159
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: a collapse. I think they're contender. That could have been offense,

1160
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: all right, who's up, Who's up? Who's up? Mark? Yeah,

1161
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: I'm in the snake world. I've been taking my late him.

1162
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Rams at Kansas City again. I just

1163
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: I get to at least watch the Chiefs offense um,

1164
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: which I think sometimes UM, I know in our text

1165
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: threads away from work, like on my day night when

1166
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: they're just destroying people and uh are on Sunday night

1167
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: or I and I am just feeling I watched the

1168
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: same thing over and over. But it's a testament to

1169
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: like how consistent they are. Like Kelsey is at playing

1170
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: out of his mind, Patrick Mahomes like adding elements to

1171
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: the game on the ground with his ability to run.

1172
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: They're just so incredible, Like the throw to Jody Fortson

1173
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: a week ago was one of the better throws I've

1174
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: seen all season. I mean, Matt Mahomes just does something

1175
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: week after week where it's like this is new. He

1176
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: keeps recreating what we think about him, and they're totally unstoppable.

1177
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: And I don't even really want to talk about the

1178
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: Rams right now. Bryce Perkins is taking first team reps,

1179
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: but it's just getting darker and darker. They cut Darrell Henderson, Uh,

1180
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: they're just partying ways with players. It's fair to wonder

1181
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: if we'll see Matthew Stafford again all year. I don't

1182
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: think we'll see Cooper Cup. That's that's friend Jordan and

1183
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: Rodrigue and everyone else covering that Rams beat. I am

1184
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: very ready for expose to drop about what is going on?

1185
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: Old producer call, She'll get us some dirt. Let's let's

1186
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: let's start digging here. What's going on. What's most concerning

1187
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: to me and has been under the radar the last

1188
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: two weeks is the defense has just laid down. You know,

1189
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: It's like I did not expect them to lay down

1190
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: against the Saints when you see Juan Johnson and Olave

1191
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: Cooking Ramsey, when you see the Cardinals who they could

1192
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: have Like if the defense could have stepped up and

1193
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: played competitive in that game against Colt McCoy, like they

1194
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: would have had a chance to win that game even

1195
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: and the defense has given up long drive, can't get

1196
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: off the field, and you can't play injuries on the defense.

1197
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: The defense has been healthy and they just haven't been there.

1198
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: Donald is still grading out as one of the best

1199
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: players in the league, and I think if you watched,

1200
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: he's not at the level that he's been, but he's

1201
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: still at like an All Pro or Pro Bowl level.

1202
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna put anything on him you're putting

1203
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: on the roster construction, and I guess some of the

1204
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: coaching that just the stars and scrubs thing is and working,

1205
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: and this last few weeks it just feels like the

1206
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: defense isn't playing with the same level of intense. Well,

1207
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: let's pop the hood on that because I agree with you.

1208
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: Let's remember what happened on November six at Tampa when

1209
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: Rams defense got a huge stop at the end of

1210
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: that game and looked like they'd sealed a win that

1211
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: really could have reset their season. The offense goes three

1212
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: and out. They then let him right down the field.

1213
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: They lose the game. After the game, Jalen Ramsey, who

1214
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: is a star uh but also an emotional player, comes

1215
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: out in the media and basically trashes the offense and says,

1216
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: you're asking us to keep on making stops and we're

1217
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: not getting any help. And then you connect the dots

1218
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: for the next two weeks where the defense seems lethargic

1219
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: and no longer passionate about what they're doing. There's a

1220
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: lot of bad stuff going on with the Rams right now.

1221
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: That's all. He's the host right there into a beautiful

1222
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: four or five teams where the defense and Offense probably

1223
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: despise each other. But hind the scenes, person Flora, the

1224
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: Ram situation is about as dark as it gets. They're

1225
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: doing a good job though, kind of keeping things out

1226
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: of the public eye. It's just like random things. Well

1227
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying like it, just like has a tweet after

1228
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: after he was released with like a prayer hands I

1229
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: believe in a big smile or something like. I want

1230
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: to hear some dirt about what's going on with the

1231
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: defending champions, one of the more pointing seasons in that front.

1232
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Oh no, I'm up again. No, Drew,

1233
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: get in my ear. Let me know that I have

1234
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: to pick a terrible game. All right, let me pick

1235
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: a bad game. Oh, everybody pinch yourselves listening right now

1236
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: because Zeuster is doing it in real time. Do you

1237
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: want Denver at Carolina? No? Do I want Tampa at Brown's?

1238
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: Not really, but that's you know what, I'll grab it

1239
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 1: Bucks at Brown's um in Cleveland. Cleveland's not a bad team.

1240
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: They're not bad. They really aren't. They have a bad record.

1241
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: It's not quite the Green Bay situation either, because they

1242
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: the record is what they are. But I think they

1243
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: could definitely put up a fight here against Tampa It

1244
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: depends what version of the Bucks offense shows up here. Um.

1245
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't think Nick Chubb gets shut down two weeks

1246
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: in a row, so I expect him to move the ball.

1247
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: Is this the last start for Jake Briskett? Yeah, this

1248
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: is a very notable game, a pivot point in Brown's history,

1249
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: and Jake Briskett knows, barring injury, he's done after this game.

1250
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: Um do what am I about to go off on?

1251
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: This is something like our friend Claybold would roll his eyes?

1252
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: Do I think that Jake Briskett could find more motivation

1253
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: uh playing one more game against Todd Bowles and the

1254
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Mighty Bucks and have a big day. Probably not, but

1255
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 1: you know it's on his mind. He wants to go

1256
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: out strong here. I think the Bucks are gonna have

1257
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: their hands full in this game, So I kind of

1258
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: The more I think about this game, the more it

1259
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: makes sense to me, And a lot comes down to it.

1260
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: Mark though, is Tampa Bay's offense? I mentioned how they

1261
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: did a better job and third down. Still, they didn't

1262
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: score for much of the second half in Munich and

1263
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: that win over the Seahawks, so I still have questions

1264
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: but we're seeing some growth on that side of the ball.

1265
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: They were balanced. I thought that was a really encouraging

1266
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: I I'm not asking the Bucks to be perfect on offense.

1267
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: They're always working the way out of things. But guys

1268
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: like Chris Godwin starting to play better. They could run

1269
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: the ball really well. Rashad White, I think is a thing.

1270
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: I think, at least for the rest of this season.

1271
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: He's sort of their dude on the ground and you

1272
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 1: are playing the one thing that doesn't seem to change

1273
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: no matter who's gonna be playing quarterback for the Browns.

1274
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: And we've talked about it week after week, their defense,

1275
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: because they we can say they have stars on their defense.

1276
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward right now is ranked as the one D

1277
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: and fourteen quarterback cornerback by Pro Football Focus. Greg Knewsome,

1278
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: who was awesome a season ago, is the sixties second.

1279
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit and John Johnson their safeties. John Johnson, who

1280
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: was great with the Rams, are both in the sixties.

1281
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: The player is he ranked? Okay, he pops up, he yes,

1282
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: but like you'd like him to be a complimentary a

1283
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: piece around all these other parts. It's it's Miles Garrett

1284
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: and nobody else. Their run defense is terrible, so I

1285
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: think the Bucks can be balanced again. And then Tom Brady,

1286
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: who was only lost to the Browns once is his

1287
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: entire life, and we know that game that was the

1288
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: picture that at this point is that week what year

1289
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,720
Speaker 1: where we're nine two? I was watching now, I was

1290
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: watching at a Brown's um backers tavern up in Santa Monica,

1291
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 1: which I think no longer. This is a history of

1292
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: Dan and Mark at NFL dot com. We got hired

1293
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: the same summer Mark where you've about three weeks before

1294
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: me for a month or something like that. Yeah, I

1295
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: think I taught you how the computer system worked, sort

1296
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: of set you up to fly. And you should have

1297
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: seen the way our great boss, Justin hathaway Um, who's

1298
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: a good man, the way Mark set things up those

1299
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: first two years. He got Sundays off working for the NFL.

1300
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: And there's old Zeuser grinding way in that newsroom and

1301
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: Mark is at every Brown's bar you could find. And

1302
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: you know what it paid off, because we've heard about

1303
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: this Brown Patriots game roughly thirty eight times. It was

1304
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: one season, by the way, Willie McGinnis highlight of his

1305
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 1: Brown's career, It was one season, and the reason was

1306
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: I was the person that came in at four forty

1307
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: five in the morning on week days, and I bet

1308
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: he made that trade. I bet he knew what he

1309
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: was but you don't sleep, so it's kind of was

1310
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: happy to do it, but I don't. I think on

1311
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: the flip side, I'm not sure that you would have

1312
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: loved the four in the morning. Buddy, all right, well,

1313
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: you did everything. That did everything, and he's just a

1314
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: wonderful five to two, largely a later shift guy because

1315
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: I would see you for only about twelve two hours.

1316
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: I did him. Buddy did late nights too well. So

1317
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: I did the same shifts as you. What are we

1318
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: getting at here? Like what what I work Sundays and

1319
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: you didn't for a season? Basically you need highly Petty

1320
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: is sometimes Jack to the game. We should talk Jake Briskett.

1321
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: He has played really well this season. I love what

1322
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: he said to the media on Wednesday that he knew

1323
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: the deal when he got there and that this was

1324
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: the deal and he felt like I could be the

1325
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: perfect person to handle that, and he said, and I

1326
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: think I have been Wait, I I so agree. This

1327
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: was a difficult situation. He's been a massive upgrade from

1328
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I think if I was doing the QB

1329
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: in next this year, Mark, I'd have to write it out.

1330
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: He would be squarely in the middle, which is a

1331
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: huge win if you're the Browns into this is the

1332
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: best these looks since that cold season, maybe even better.

1333
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: And I think he would have been it and talked

1334
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: up a lot this year and one of the better

1335
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: stories in the league if their defense was an a

1336
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: tire fire. Because he's played well enough for them to

1337
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: have like a seven and four type of record, but

1338
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: their defense, you could have had an extra two touchdowns.

1339
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you, Greg, like he's been the

1340
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: perfect quarterback, locker room wise during a really tough season.

1341
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: He's totally exceeded what I thought he'd be on the field.

1342
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: Had him they would be like, they would be great,

1343
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: That's all I mean, they would The Browns are this close,

1344
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: this close to be in six and four, but they're not. Well,

1345
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: they're also this far because there I think we're beyond

1346
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: the point of look at their solid, solid roster. I

1347
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: think they have issues going into this offseason and there well,

1348
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: we know they'll change defensive coaches, which is why this

1349
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: matchup is interesting because that Buck's offensive line handed it

1350
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: to Seattle. And then there was some talk after the

1351
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: game that it's like, well, they didn't have the right

1352
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: cleats in the field slippery? Was that part of it?

1353
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: Because they mashed them and it reminded you of the

1354
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: torn twenty Bucks who played so well upfront. And if

1355
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: you can run on these Browns, which every other team can,

1356
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: and you can protect Brady and Godwin looks good again

1357
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 1: after a week off. He looked a little more explosive.

1358
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: Then we start feeling pretty good about this Bucks team. Definitely,

1359
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: let's take a break, we'll be right back. All right.

1360
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: Here we go. We got three more games, Greg, I'm

1361
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna take the Chargers and the Cardinals in the late window.

1362
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: I have a belief that these last two Chargers games

1363
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: or a sign of something more for this team. But

1364
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: they're actually getting better because it's been my last favorite

1365
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: Chargers season and I don't know how long. Because Philip

1366
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: Rivers isn't there, they're not better than their record. It

1367
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: indicates it's been in the reverse and Justin Herbert wasn't

1368
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: really Justin Herbert until after the by and especially these

1369
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 1: last two weeks. The first half against San Francisco, and

1370
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: then I think really throughout that Kansas City game, we're

1371
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: starting to see the big time throws out of Herbert.

1372
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: We're seeing Keenan Allen back unlocking them. I actually think

1373
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley has come up with some defensive answers. I

1374
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: know they're banged up and they're not a great defense,

1375
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: but some of the things he's done over the last

1376
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: couple of weeks have given me some hopes against two

1377
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the league. I think San

1378
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: Francisco and the Chiefs, and I want to start them

1379
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: taking it forward. Maybe they get Mike Williams back. It

1380
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: sounds like for this game, maybe not. We'll find out

1381
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: and go put on a performance that gets us feeling like, Okay,

1382
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 1: they're back in this season and they're gonna win a

1383
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: lot of games and get back to the playoffs. This

1384
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: might be the defense to do it against. That is

1385
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean it is. It has been a

1386
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 1: rough road for the Chargers. Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, and

1387
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert had been on the field together for forty

1388
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 1: six of six and seventy three snaps. He just hasn't

1389
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 1: had his guys. And I do think because Brandon stilly

1390
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: like kind of nobly said, hey, listen, uh, Justin Herbert

1391
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: is going to be more aggressive now he's finally healthy.

1392
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: That was a couple of weeks ago, and it's translated

1393
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, he threw six plays over years.

1394
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: It's so what we've been waiting for. So I guess,

1395
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, if the reason doesn't start till this week

1396
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: next week, then that's good. We'll see. That's it's bad

1397
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 1: news for the Hard Knocks producers who are gonna have

1398
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 1: to squeeze another five or six shows out of this.

1399
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: Cardinals is fascinating to me watching that one, but after that,

1400
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: this just feels like a dead team walking Dan. And

1401
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: that's why it's a road game for the Chargers, and

1402
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: they haven't looked great this year. But the Charger I'm

1403
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 1: with you that Cardinals are terrible. They're embarrassing. And it

1404
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: got worse over the week weekend when we learned that

1405
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals offensive line coach and running game coordinator Seawan

1406
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: Coogler was fired, uh for some inappropriate behavior um and

1407
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: sent home. So and that's not the you know, this

1408
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: is not the first time this stuff has happened behind

1409
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: the scenes with the Cardinals. It's everywhere. I mean, it's

1410
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: from the general manager, two coaches. Uh. And then you

1411
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: see the play on the field and and the the

1412
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: quitting and a Monday night game. It's just like the

1413
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: vibes are There's no team that has worse vibes in

1414
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 1: my opinion, than the Arizona Cardinals. And at one point

1415
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: does ownership hit the reset button on this thing? And

1416
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: don't worry about the Cardinals being at home. They're the

1417
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: worst home team in the league, worst point differential there,

1418
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 1: one in five. I am not that worried. I watched

1419
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: that Hard Knocks first episode and it was really set up.

1420
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is not a guy who you just feel

1421
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: like has the room in the palm of his hands,

1422
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: just belief wise, and he doesn't really have the schematics either.

1423
01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: But his motivational thing during that week was we've got

1424
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: three games here. If we win these three games in

1425
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: the division, and we're gonna see who we really are

1426
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: in the division. And if we win these games, we

1427
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: will be tied for first place at the end of

1428
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: those three games. So now we are at the end

1429
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: of those three games, and in two of those games

1430
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: they weren't particularly competitive. They found out who they were.

1431
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: They were significantly worse than the Seahawks. They were not

1432
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: even in the same ballpark of the forty. They were

1433
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: an organization that's had all sorts of off field problems.

1434
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: In this Coogler thing is the latest that they just

1435
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: feel like an organization and coaching staff run a mock.

1436
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: And I think they could really hit the reset. But

1437
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: we don't need to talk about it because we'll have

1438
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: six weeks to talk about But I think if this

1439
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: keeps going in the direction that I expected to go,

1440
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: I think they will hit the reset button and they

1441
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: will just be a hard regret. As he's paying Steve

1442
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: Kim and Cliff Kingsbury their mortgages for their next three

1443
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: houses for the next six years, right, And you know what,

1444
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray too that that was a big investment they made.

1445
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna pay off. But the

1446
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: team is bad, the effort is bad, the behavior is bad. Um,

1447
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: what else does ownership need to see, uh to really

1448
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: hit a hard reset on this team. Let's move to

1449
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 1: the next game. Greg's two left where you got I'm

1450
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: going to take Broncos Panthers, It's Frontos Panthers, it's Chris Myers,

1451
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: It's it's darn Old and Chris. There's actually am okay,

1452
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: So there's a much better game remaining, and this is

1453
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: probably a part of the show they'll just take out

1454
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: of the network. I would recommend it, but I'd rather

1455
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: I'd rather save this must be great, right, I'd rather

1456
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: save Commandos Falcons for game Pass. And I've happened to

1457
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: watch those teams live a lot this year. I do

1458
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: not want to watch Broncos Panthers on game Pass. I

1459
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: just can't do it. So I want to put this

1460
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: as my second screen in the morning and just get

1461
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: through it and move on. You're tied to these teams

1462
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: for three and a half hours, as opposed to a nice,

1463
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: tidy forty. I don't get because it colors your Sunday,

1464
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: but here it does. I get it. But here's what

1465
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm just gonna be extra focused on

1466
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: my number one game. I'm gonna have that in. I'm

1467
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: not gonna listen to the commentary. I'm gonna keep an

1468
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: eye on what Russell Wilson is doing against a very

1469
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: good Panthers defense in the right week, and I feel

1470
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 1: like this will be the right week because they're playing Denver,

1471
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: so they can stop the run and their secondary is

1472
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 1: much better. Or with Jeremy Chin back in the mix.

1473
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 1: J C. Horne is a really good cornerback who can

1474
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: line up against Courtland Sutton. We don't expect Jerry Judy

1475
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: to be back out there, so I just don't think

1476
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of points in this game.

1477
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: It's Sam Donald going against a very good defense. I'm

1478
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna pick final score nine six Broncos to your point, Greg,

1479
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: the Broncos who seemed to like have one good drive

1480
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: a game that Nick Wright tweeted out that had they

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01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: scored eighteen points a game in regulation this season, just

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Speaker 1: every game? Everything not great? One? What that's so stupid?

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Speaker 1: What's what's their offense is? What's stupid like that? I

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: just mean, that's a ridiculous that that is depressing if

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Speaker 1: you're a Broncos. Fancas points is a deeply not a

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Speaker 1: disappointing total No Friday Fund show this week, So we

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Speaker 1: don't have any fearless prediction. So I'll throw in my

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Speaker 1: throw my one out right now, which is Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: accounts for two touchdowns for Broncos are for the famis

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Speaker 1: as I'm saying it here? Doesn't this set up for

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Speaker 1: Donald Win? I I picked the Broncos online. Should I

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Speaker 1: should I change that? If they get two touchdowns, they're

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Speaker 1: beating the Russell Wilson team, who can't score two touchdowns

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Speaker 1: a game. It's bad. You know, it's weird? Is they

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: we since that counter pick six? If he's really pick six? No,

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Speaker 1: he's accounting for two touchdowns for the winning team. I

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Speaker 1: just I thought it's fair, it's a fair person to

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Speaker 1: clarify that point where I actually think he's in a

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Speaker 1: better spot now because they spent their whole offseason. Remember,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing was like they gotta finally fix their

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Why didn't they fix their offensive line the

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01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 1: year before? The offensive line gave them no chance? And

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01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: you know what, they kind of did fix their offensive line.

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: It looks pretty good this year. They passed protect well,

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: they added a lot of talent there and just the

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01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 1: rest of the team is absolutely terrible. And that's why

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01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,839
Speaker 1: Matt rule is uh making the men Good Morning football.

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01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: But your take that Baker Mayfield would come to Carolina

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Speaker 1: and prove that he's no better than Sam Donald. I

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01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: gotta say it's aged well and Sam Donald now has

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: a chance to take it to the next level well

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Speaker 1: and look better than Baker. The best way to elevate

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01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: your the best your status is to simply not play,

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01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: because now we want Sam Donald, Sam Donald. It's about

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: put Baker in the same setting as Sam Donald and

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Speaker 1: what happens. Not disagreeing that Baker Mayfield is never going

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Speaker 1: to start again, I do think it's important for Donald

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Speaker 1: to uh put together some decent tape here to get

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Speaker 1: a backup job next year and not be a guy

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Speaker 1: that's picked up because of somebody a concussion in week six.

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Speaker 1: They're important games for him, all right, let's finish the

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Speaker 1: It is actually pretty considering the week. The fact that

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Speaker 1: Falcons and Commanders are the last game here that I'll

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01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 1: grab is uh, that works out because the Falcons not

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Speaker 1: my favorite team to watch, and now they lose Kyle

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Speaker 1: Pitts and they've kind of lost Kyle Pitts already in

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Speaker 1: terms of how to use them in the game plan.

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Speaker 1: But if you talk to Arthur or you listen to

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01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: Arthur smith Um and people that follow the game, they

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01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: say that Kyle Pitts despite his numbers being so bad

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01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: this year compared to last year or when you thought

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01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: this year would be a big leap, they really were

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01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: using him and he was in an all around way

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01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: has been important to their offense. He's gone now with

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01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: the m c L tear that's leading to surgery. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like, so they find a way now against the Commanders,

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01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: or they need to find a way. And the Commanders

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: had won five of six and uh coming off, took

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: care of business game against the Texans. Of course the

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01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,719
Speaker 1: emotional Monday night game win against the Eagles to knock

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Speaker 1: them off. Taylor Heineke, I like it. I like him

1542
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: to keep the good times rolling here at home. What

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01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: do you guys think? I agree? I mean I They

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01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: asked Ron Rivera why he was sticking with Taylor Heineke,

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Speaker 1: and all he said was winning. All right, Well, I

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01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: don't really care why. I just would rather see in

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01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz. But for me, a lot of it's

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: the defense. Um. They have been really creatively run on offense.

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01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 1: I think young Turner Scott Turners doing a good job.

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,080
Speaker 1: But I mean guys like Jonathan Allen was Montez sweat,

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01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: They were incredible a week ago. I know they're playing Houston,

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01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: but they just they dissolved Houston and they've got the

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: number to run defense Stevo way wise in the league.

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01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: And you're playing the Falcons, So I I kind of

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01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: like this game for the to keep going because if

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01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: you put the ball in Marcus Mariota's hands to solve

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01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: it for Atlanta late in the game, don't trust him.

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01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 1: You mentioned it was a take care of business game,

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01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: but the fact that they did it so convincingly showed

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01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: me a little something about the Commanders that like, Okay,

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01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't like I would not take four points in

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01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: this game their four point favorites. That feels too much

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01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 1: these two teams. It's going to come down to something

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01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: crazy happening in the final three minutes each of these

1565
01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: teams whenever they play anyone reasonable, that's how the game goes.

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Speaker 1: And I agree with you that they can stop the

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01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: Falcons run. They've been like Jonathan Allen has been great

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: and paint Deron Paine has been great, but Montes Sweat

1569
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: is second in pressures like they are pretty deep there

1570
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: safety combination are both ranked in the top five of

1571
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: PFF right now for what that's worth direct Derek Forrest

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01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: and and Cam Curl. Forrest has been a nice little

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01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: fine for them, a surprising pick, so they have talent

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01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: around Heineke. I still expect Heineck to start blowing it

1575
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: at some point, and this could be one of those games.

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01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it'll be close and just

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01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: come down to something crazy, because these two teams are

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01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of proof of how I get annoyed when people

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 1: say it's the hardest thing to do in sports win

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01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: an NFL game. It's like, no, these teams have won things.

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01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 1: Just like to say that it's like one of the

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 1: hardest things to do in sports win an NFL No,

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01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: it's exactly the straight right. It's as easy as every

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01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 1: other sport. One team wins every single game, and these

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01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: two teams are proof of that. You don't have to

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01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: be that great to be around Young and Sweat. He's

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: back activated, hopefully he plays, then they'll truly be back.

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01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: But Montez Sweat and Chase Young in that defensive line,

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01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: they can get after it. And um, you know we've

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01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: talked about to put a bow on the Kyle Pitts

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01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 1: experience here, how Marcus Mariota and Pitts just could not

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01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: connect ever. And this that really jumps out to me.

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01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: Last year with Pitts when he was a rookie and

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01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: he went over a thousand yards with Matt Ryan as

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01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: his quarterback, he had a fifty four point five deep

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: catch percentage according to NFL media research. This year with

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:14,759
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota seven point one percent, which is the worst

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01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: than any player in the NFL minimum ten targets of

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Speaker 1: twenty plus air yards. That element of there's so many

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Speaker 1: things wrong with Mariota the quarterback. Um I've come to

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01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: learn during the season and many others. Uh, maybe it's

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01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: more the same from going back to his Tennessee days,

1603
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 1: but his inability to create big plays with special players

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01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: on the field like Drake London and Kyle Pitts. He

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01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: gotta move on. They are awkward dance partners. And I

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01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: think only because they're in this um wretched division. Are

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01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,719
Speaker 1: we not getting Desmond Ridder at this point because there's

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 1: still in this playoff race to some degree in Arthur

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01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: Smith won't budget. I mean, they're they're they're in it.

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01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: It's no, they're in it, but they're like if they

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01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: were buried in the in the a f C or

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01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I think we're moving on from Marcus Mario

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01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: at some right. There are two losses behind in the

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01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: in the wild card race, but they're only half a game.

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01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:05,680
Speaker 1: But those bucks all right. Thanksgiving is on Thursday here

1616
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: in the States. Um Mark, what are you thankful for?

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01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for you and Greg. Yeah, most of the times.

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01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: But that's that's not bad A high percentage of the time.

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01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: You could have left that out entirely. Well. The honesty

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Speaker 1: is welcome. I think honesty is why we thrive on

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Speaker 1: this show. We will say what we mostly feel. I'm

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Speaker 1: thankful for our audience, a wonderful, loyal, growing audience who

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01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: love ball and love the cannery that comes along with

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Speaker 1: this program. Thank you to everybody that watches and listens

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Speaker 1: and supports us. I'm thankful for my family here that

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01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: we get to spend Thanksgiving. And I'm also thankful we

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Speaker 1: got some late breaking news and get everything accurate the show.

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:01,520
Speaker 1: Let's get it now. This is significant. It's a significant

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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: enough this might get taken out of the TV show.

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01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: Stop saying what's going to be taken out of It's

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01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is expected to start on Sunday against the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. Change anything for you, and he says

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01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: he expects to start in the coaching staff pretty much

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01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 1: it does. I think I'm changing up the lock. Let's

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01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: join Grave Digger over on the Seahawks. Okay, though they'll

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01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: beat that, they'll probably beat the Kyler Cardinals too. UM

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01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: live show at the Bourbon Room in Hollywood for around

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01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: the NFL and January eighth, Wednesday. Get your tickets now.

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01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: Uh check out our socials to get the link. And

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01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: one last note to our we have many the loyal

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01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 1: listeners that we have, so many of them over in England, USA, Baby,

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: we're taking you down in the World Cup on Friday.

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01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: I lock it up. I'm locking up an upset for

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: the USA over England. Deal with it, Deal with the

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01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 1: plays confidence of an ugly American. Until then, Dan hands

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Speaker 1: a signing off for the Quiet Storm the old Boss

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01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: justin with the the end of show drop. We gotta

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01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: work on it's unpredictable because now we're not gonna feel thick.

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01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 1: We had both said, are things you're unpredictable. Keep the

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Speaker 1: call