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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to Katapem. Here. This is Scharen
Speaker 2: and today we are continuing our conversation from yesterday where
Speaker 2: we talked about the US proposed peace deal for Hamas
Speaker 2: in Israel that looks suspiciously like a deal Hamas had
Speaker 2: already agreed to just a few weeks before that and
Speaker 2: Israel did not agree to. We had ended part one
Speaker 2: talking about how the IOF literally killed their own hostages
Speaker 2: when they mistakenly thought they were threats, and I ended
Speaker 2: saying speaking of threats, and I'm going to continue because
Speaker 2: that's what professionals do. So since October seventh, Israel has
Speaker 2: described Hamas as an existential threat, saying that it needs
Speaker 2: to destroy the group and won't stop the violence in
Speaker 2: Gaza until it does so. But I would argue that
Speaker 2: most people who are pro Israel or Western Zionists in
Speaker 2: general don't actually know anything about Hamas other than thinking
Speaker 2: they're this big, bad evil that has to be eradicated
Speaker 2: by the quote only democracy in the Middle East, which
Speaker 2: I hope by this point people realize is a sick joke.
Speaker 2: Hamas is suddenly being talked about on every news channel
Speaker 2: and anything even remotely pro Palestine is now labeled as
Speaker 2: pro Hamas when most people in this country, I would argue,
Speaker 2: most likely had never even heard of Hamas before October seventh.
Speaker 2: Labeling something as pro Hamas truly just means nothing. As
Speaker 2: far as Israel is concerned, the UN is Hamas. In May,
Speaker 2: Israel's ambassador to the UN, Galad Erdan, said in an
Speaker 2: interview with Israel's Army Radio that the UN has quote
Speaker 2: turned into a collaborator with Hamas, maybe even more than that,
Speaker 2: a terror organization unto itself. Wow, Israeli leadership has just
Speaker 2: continued to one up themselves when it comes to saying
Speaker 2: the most insane fucking shit. And then, according to Zionists,
Speaker 2: the college campus protests that we're calling for a literal
Speaker 2: end to genocide are also pro Hamas. Earlier this month,
Speaker 2: a lawsuit was filed in Verse by a US law
Speaker 2: firm and an Israeli legal group who have teamed up
Speaker 2: to suit two organizations involved in recent college campus protests,
Speaker 2: the American Muslims for Palestine and National Students for Justice
Speaker 2: in Palestine. They accuse these groups of collaborating with Hamas
Speaker 2: to serve as their quote propaganda division in the US
Speaker 2: arson of Trosky, the CEO of the International Legal Forum,
Speaker 2: who was working with this US legal team of Greenberg
Speaker 2: Tarig and the National Jewish Advocacy Center. He called the
Speaker 2: American Muslims for Palestine and the National Students for Justice
Speaker 2: in Palestine, as well as all the protesters supporting Palestine,
Speaker 2: most of whom are students as quote the foot soldiers
Speaker 2: of Hamas. If I was going to go through everything
Speaker 2: that Israel and Zionists have labeled as pro Hamas, this
Speaker 2: episode would never end. But I hope it's clear that
Speaker 2: this label and accusation isn't based on any real sort
Speaker 2: of evidence or proof, and it is only a way
Speaker 2: to scare people into blindly supporting Israel in quote defending
Speaker 2: itself big quotes there against this growing evil spreading across
Speaker 2: the globe and invading our campuses, when in reality, there
Speaker 2: would be no Hamas without Israel. Although Hamas eventually grew
Speaker 2: into being the most active armed resistance group in Gaza,
Speaker 2: it definitely didn't start that way and it wouldn't have
Speaker 2: even had the power to grow the way it did
Speaker 2: if it weren't for intentional actions by Israeli leadership that
Speaker 2: started decades ago. Before we get into a timeline of
Speaker 2: the Resa Hamas peace deals that have led to this
Speaker 2: very similar deal at the US proposed all deals that
Speaker 2: again Israel has rejected. I want to make sure we
Speaker 2: at least have an understanding of what Hamas, even is Hamas,
Speaker 2: which is an Arabic acronym for Islamic resistance movement, would
Speaker 2: not exist today if it wasn't for Israel. American and
Speaker 2: Israeli politicians are always saying the same thing, how dangerous
Speaker 2: an evil Hamas is, without mentioning how Israel itself helped
Speaker 2: create Hamas. The TLDR of it all is that israelis
Speaker 2: helped turn a bunch of fringe Palestinian Islamists in the
Speaker 2: late nineteen seventies into one of the world's most notorious
Speaker 2: militant groups. Is in a conspiracy theory, It's a confirmed fact.
Speaker 2: Former Israeli officials, such as Brigadier General is Sak Sagev,
Speaker 2: who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the
Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties, have openly spoken about this. After his tenure,
Speaker 2: Segev told a New York Times reporter that he had
Speaker 2: helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a quote counterweight
Speaker 2: to secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization aka
Speaker 2: the PLO, as well as the FATA Party, which was
Speaker 2: led by Yaser Arafat. Arafat two referred to HAMAS as
Speaker 2: quote a creature of Israel. Hamas was officially founded in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven, at the start of the First Palestinian
Speaker 2: Intifada or uprising against the Israeli occupation, but its beginnings
Speaker 2: actually started much earlier. Hamas founder, sheik ahmedia Sin, was
Speaker 2: a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. The brother Hood had
Speaker 2: been repressed by Egyptians in Gaza prior to nineteen sixty seven,
Speaker 2: but once the Israelis invaded and occupied the Gaza Strip,
Speaker 2: they chose to encourage this group of extremist Islamists. The
Speaker 2: dominant Palestinian political force in Palestine at the time was
Speaker 2: the PLO, and it was deemed a threat to Israel,
Speaker 2: and so Israel sought to undermine its power. The PLO
Speaker 2: is a nationalist coalition which was centered around the secular
Speaker 2: FATA Party led by Yasser Arafat. By empowering y Scene
Speaker 2: in the Muslim Brotherhood, Israel thought they could divide the
Speaker 2: occupied Palestinian people and eventually rule over them by playing
Speaker 2: them against each other secular nationalists versus religious Islamists. In
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight, Yasin wanted to officially register his Islamic Association,
Speaker 2: which was basically the precursor to present day Hamas. The
Speaker 2: Israelis jumped on the opportunity to help make this happen.
Speaker 2: Yasin built and grew a network of Islamists social institutions
Speaker 2: across Gaza, funded largely by Israel. Avnar Cohen is a
Speaker 2: former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for
Speaker 2: more than two decades. In two thousand and nine, he
Speaker 2: told the Wall Street Journal Hamas to my great regret,
Speaker 2: is Israel's creation. Back in the mid nineteen eighties, Cohen
Speaker 2: even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them
Speaker 2: not to play divide and rule in the occupied territories
Speaker 2: by backing Palestinian Islamists against the Palestinian secularists. He wrote
Speaker 2: in his report, I suggest focusing our efforts on finding
Speaker 2: ways to break up this monster before reality jumps in
Speaker 2: our face. Clearly, his superiors did not listen to him,
Speaker 2: and Hamas was the result. To be clear, Israelis had
Speaker 2: helped build up a militant strain of extremist political Islam
Speaker 2: in the form of Hamas and its Muslim brotherhood precursors,
Speaker 2: and allowed it free reign in order to quiet any
Speaker 2: chance of progress in Palestine, and then when it became
Speaker 2: convenient for their desionist narrative, the Israelis tried to bomb,
Speaker 2: besiege and blockade it out of existence. David Hashem, a
Speaker 2: former Arabs affairs expert in the Israeli military who was
Speaker 2: based in President in the nineteen eighties, said the original
Speaker 2: sin was Israel's support of ya See in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: He said, when I look back at the chain of events,
Speaker 2: I think we made a mistake. But at the time
Speaker 2: nobody thought about the possible results. Yeah, no shit. The
Speaker 2: only American politician that I know of who has ever
Speaker 2: referenced how Israel Is responsible for Hamas's creation is Ron Paul.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and one on the floor of the House,
Speaker 2: Ron Paul said Hamas was encouraged and really started by
Speaker 2: Israel because they wanted Hamas to counteract Yaser Arafat. Speaking
Speaker 2: of Arafat, not only did he himself tell an Italian
Speaker 2: newspaper that Hamas is a creature of Israel. He also
Speaker 2: said that the former Israeli PI Prime Minister Yasakrabien admitted
Speaker 2: this to him, calling it a quote fatal error. Yaesin
Speaker 2: was eventually assassinated by an Israeli air strike in Gaza
Speaker 2: on March twenty second, two thousand and four. Sylvan Shalom,
Speaker 2: former Israeli Vice prime minister, set after Yasine's death, that
Speaker 2: quote Scheh Yassin and his organization Hamas are responsible for
Speaker 2: the killings of more than four hundred Israelis, when actually
Speaker 2: no Israel is clearly largely responsible. David Long, a former
Speaker 2: Middle East expert in the US State Department under Ronald Reagan,
Speaker 2: told journalist Robert Dreyfus, I thought the Israelis were playing
Speaker 2: with fire. This, of course, is not a unique development,
Speaker 2: as there have been dozens of instances of unneeded and
Speaker 2: malignant US intervention in other countries for its own gain,
Speaker 2: and since then Hamas has killed far more Israelis than
Speaker 2: any secular Palestinian militant group. Israel built up Yasine and
Speaker 2: Hamas as a rival to Arafat's FATA then they killed
Speaker 2: ya scene, and then they doubled down and making Haamas
Speaker 2: Israel's worst enemy, an enemy it would use to justify
Speaker 2: to the entire world that it was not only okay
Speaker 2: but necessary to control and massacre millions of Palestinians. In
Speaker 2: the process of destroying this threat, Israel spent more than
Speaker 2: twenty years helping build up Hamas and then spent another
Speaker 2: twenty years trying to destroy it. All of this is
Speaker 2: to say that, aside from the purposeful assistance from Israel
Speaker 2: and creating Hamas, that Hamas wouldn't even exist if it
Speaker 2: wasn't for the Israeli occupation, there would be no resistance
Speaker 2: because without the ethnic cleansing enforced violent occupation, there would
Speaker 2: be nothing to resist. In the process of bolstering this
Speaker 2: militant group, Hamas also became the main armed force behind
Speaker 2: the Palestinian resistance, and many view Hamas as the only
Speaker 2: group even attempting to defend Palestinians in the face of
Speaker 2: Israeli occupation, and the organization itself has changed over the years,
Speaker 2: especially in the last decade, it seems like Hamas was
Speaker 2: and is increasingly trying to establish a more favorable status
Speaker 2: quo for the Palestinian people. Hamas's leaders were shaped by
Speaker 2: the hard realities of a brutal occupation, which was marked
Speaker 2: by mass arrests of Palestinians, the expropriation of Palestinian lands
Speaker 2: and control of their resources. More than half a million
Speaker 2: Palestinians were arrested and tried in Israel's military run courts
Speaker 2: between nineteen sixty seven and nineteen eighty seven, and over
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred Palestinian homes were demolished and thousands of Palestinians
Speaker 2: were forcibly deported aka ethnically cleansed. After Hamas won the
Speaker 2: two thousand and six elections in Gaza, its leader Hania
Speaker 2: said the group exccept did a state on the nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty seven borders, as well as all the decisions taken
Speaker 2: by the PA and the PLO, but there were no takers.
Speaker 2: HAMAS leaders also backed the two thousand and two Era
Speaker 2: Peace Initiative that called for the following the withdrawal of
Speaker 2: Israeli forces from territories occupied in nineteen sixty seven, the
Speaker 2: right of Palestinian refugees to return to the homes they
Speaker 2: had been forcibly displaced from since nineteen forty eight. And
Speaker 2: the formation of a sovereign, independent Palestinian state in return
Speaker 2: for air recognition of Israel. But Hamas's offers were repeatedly
Speaker 2: dismissed by Israel and ignored by Israel's Western allies, including
Speaker 2: the US, despite Washington's claims of playing the role of
Speaker 2: a quote honest broker in the conflict, Tarek Baconi, author
Speaker 2: of Hamas contained the Rise and Pacification of Palestinian Resistance,
Speaker 2: told Al Jazeera Hamas has always said that they are
Speaker 2: ready to offer a truce and to stop targeting civilians
Speaker 2: if the Israeli occupation or moves its settlers. At least
Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty thousand Israelis live in hundreds of
Speaker 2: fortified illegal settlements and outposts across the occupied Palestinian territories
Speaker 2: of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, the vast majority
Speaker 2: of which are again built illegally, either entirely or partially
Speaker 2: on private Palestinian land, and thus they violate international law.
Speaker 2: One of the more infuriating and frankly incredibly stupid talking
Speaker 2: points that Zionists have when it comes to talking about
Speaker 2: Hamas is the two thousand and six election where Palestinians
Speaker 2: elected Hamas as their appointed leadership. I want to remind
Speaker 2: every one of a few things. The Gaza strip has
Speaker 2: a very young population. Most of the inhabitants in Gaza
Speaker 2: are under fifteen years old. The largest population group in
Speaker 2: Gaza are children between the ages of five and nine
Speaker 2: years old. This population wasn't even born yet, let alone
Speaker 2: old enough to vote in two thousand and six. And furthermore,
Speaker 2: leadership does not indicate your right to live a life,
Speaker 2: your right to not be killed. If you're in America
Speaker 2: and Trump is your elected president and you hate Trump
Speaker 2: and maybe other foreign entities hate Trump, do you deserve
Speaker 2: to die? No, you don't. The resistance fighters in Hamas
Speaker 2: are not the ones who wrote the original charter. They're
Speaker 2: not the ones who establish Hamas in the first place.
Speaker 2: They're young people that are joining the most active armed
Speaker 2: resistance to defend Palestine. It's their only option, and Palestinians
Speaker 2: have tried other non violent forms of resistance against this occupation.
Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, there was something called
Speaker 2: the Great March of Return. It started on March thirtieth,
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and ended December twenty seventh of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Every Friday. For those years, Palestinians in Gaza demonstrated and
Speaker 2: protested along the border fence between Israel and Gaza for
Speaker 2: a right to return to their homes and to demand
Speaker 2: an end to the Israeli blockade in Gaza. During this time,
Speaker 2: the Israeli army killed a total of two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty three people. Over thirty six hundred and one thousand people,
Speaker 2: including nearly eight thousand and eight hundred children, were injured.
Speaker 2: This is after a peaceful attempt at demonstrating, after a
Speaker 2: peaceful attempt at trying to resist occupation, they're still shot
Speaker 2: and killed. They're shot with the intention to kill. Expecting
Speaker 2: Palestinians to be pacifists when it comes to resisting a brutal,
Speaker 2: violent occupation that has been now almost a century long
Speaker 2: is very small minded and entitled and frankly wrong. Palestinians
Speaker 2: have their right to resist. Armed resistance is legal under
Speaker 2: international law when it comes to resisting and occupying power.
Speaker 2: What does this mean? Maybe you've heard that train of
Speaker 2: thought before. Let me explain it to you. Let's go
Speaker 2: back in time a little bit. The General Assembly of
Speaker 2: the United Nations the UNNGA, which was once described as
Speaker 2: the collective conscious of the world, noted the right of
Speaker 2: peoples to self determination, independent and human rights. As early
Speaker 2: as nineteen seventy four, Resolution three three one four of
Speaker 2: the UNGA prohibited states from any military occupation. However temporary
Speaker 2: hum curious Israel has been doing that for decades now.
Speaker 2: In the relevant part of the resolution, the resolution not
Speaker 2: only went on to affirm the right to self determination, freedom,
Speaker 2: and dependence of peoples forcibly deprived of that right, and
Speaker 2: particularly peoples under colonial and racist regimes or other forms
Speaker 2: of alien domination, but it also noted the right of
Speaker 2: the occupied to quote struggle and to seek and receive
Speaker 2: support in that effort. The term armed struggle was implied
Speaker 2: without precise definition in that resolution and many early other
Speaker 2: ones that upheld the right of indigenous peoples to evict
Speaker 2: an occupier again the right of an indigenous people to
Speaker 2: evict their occupier, but the imprecise language was changed on
Speaker 2: December third, nineteen eighty two. At that time, the WNNGA
Speaker 2: Resolution three seven Slash four three removed any doubt or
Speaker 2: debate over the lawful entitlement of occupied people to resist
Speaker 2: occupying forces by any and all lawful means. The resolution
Speaker 2: reaffirmed quote the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence,
Speaker 2: territorial integrity, national unity, and liberation from colonial and foreign
Speaker 2: domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.
Speaker 2: And although Israel has tried time and time again to
Speaker 2: recast this ambiguous intent of this precise resolution, trying to
Speaker 2: place its now nearly century long, violent brutal occupation in
Speaker 2: the West Bank and Gaza beyond this resolution's application. The
Speaker 2: declaration itself proceeds to be very explicit in its language
Speaker 2: when it comes to Palestine. Section twenty one of the
Speaker 2: resolution strongly condemned quote the expansionist activities of Israel in
Speaker 2: the Middle East and the continual bombing of Palestinian civilians,
Speaker 2: which constitute a serious obstacle to the realization of self
Speaker 2: determination and independence of the Palestinian people. That's what I mean,
Speaker 2: and that's what many people mean when they say that
Speaker 2: Palestinians have the right to resist and armed resistance is
Speaker 2: illegal under international law. I want to bring that up
Speaker 2: because even if Hamas does not reflect the viewpoint of
Speaker 2: some Palestinians, Hamas is also the main armed resistance group
Speaker 2: that has been fighting against the IOF in defending Palestine
Speaker 2: Gaza in particular against Israel, and they have a right
Speaker 2: to do that clearly, as international law states. Regardless, Let's
Speaker 2: go back to talk about the history of Hamas and
Speaker 2: how they amended their charter in twenty seventeen. In twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: Hamas formerly amended its original nineteen eighty eight charter. The
Speaker 2: new charter holds that armed resistance against an occupying power
Speaker 2: is justified under international law. And while the nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: eight Hamas Charter has been widely criticized for its anti Semitism,
Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven document states that Hamasa's fight
Speaker 2: is not with the Jewish people, but with the Zionist project,
Speaker 2: and as you should realize by now, anti Zionism is
Speaker 2: not anti Semitism. The new charter also announced once again
Speaker 2: that it would accept a Palestinian state on the nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty seven borders. This would recognize, in effect, a two
Speaker 2: state solution and therefore the existence of Israel as a
Speaker 2: legitimate entity. This was proposed even as Israel continued to
Speaker 2: insist that it can no longer allow Hamas to exist,
Speaker 2: and as Israeli politicians, led by Netanyahu, repeatedly ruled out
Speaker 2: a two state solution. Hama's political leader Hahaled Mischal said
Speaker 2: at the time, the Hamas thinking from the very start,
Speaker 2: was clear we are not facing a religious war. Hamas,
Speaker 2: ever since its inception, realizes the nature of the struggle
Speaker 2: against the Israeli occupier, that it is not a struggle
Speaker 2: because they are Jews, but because they are occupiers. Israeli
Speaker 2: officials dismiss the new policy paper as lies. In a
Speaker 2: video Ntennyah, who symbolically and dramatically threw the document into
Speaker 2: a trashman, saying it was an attempt to deceive the world.
Speaker 2: Through its actions which span across decades, Israel has not
Speaker 2: shown any interest in a political agreement, whether with Hamas
Speaker 2: or or other Palestinian political parties like FATA, which governs
Speaker 2: the occupied West Bank. Sary Arabi, a Ramala based political analyst,
Speaker 2: told Al Jazeira, the issue is not about Gaza. It's
Speaker 2: also not about whether Israel or Hamas started the war.
Speaker 2: There are daily killings and assaults in the occupied West Bank.
Speaker 2: There are attacks on the XA Mosque, there are prisoners
Speaker 2: and checkpoints. The people in Gaza are refugees, they were
Speaker 2: isolated and separated from the rest of the Palestinian people,
Speaker 2: and the vast majority of Gaza's population are refugees who
Speaker 2: were forcibly expelled from their homes and villages in the
Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight Nekba by Zionist militias. Many political analysts
Speaker 2: also blame Israel for the failure of the Oscil Accords
Speaker 2: signed in nineteen ninety three. In nineteen ninety five between
Speaker 2: Israel and the PLO, which was representative of the Palestinian
Speaker 2: people at the time, the agreements led to the formation
Speaker 2: of the PA, an interim five year governing body meant
Speaker 2: to lead to an independent Palestinian state comprising of the
Speaker 2: occupied territory of East Jerusalem and the West Bank and
Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip. However, thirty years into its existence, the
Speaker 2: PA has failed to create a state in the face
Speaker 2: of Israeli occupation, legal land grabs and settlements, and then
Speaker 2: Hamas took control of Gaza from the PA in two
Speaker 2: thousand and seven. While there was initial support for the
Speaker 2: OSCO Accords among Palestinians, the failure to reach a final
Speaker 2: peace agreement by nineteen ninety nine and the growing settlement projects,
Speaker 2: particularly under Nanyahu, left many disappointed. In a leaked video
Speaker 2: in twenty ten, Nnyaho boasted about how he made sure
Speaker 2: the Oslo Accords did not succeed. The hopes of the
Speaker 2: Osco Accords turned into despair as Israeli policies under successive
Speaker 2: governments continued to undermine the PA and its aspirations. Today,
Speaker 2: the PA has limited administrative rule over pockets of the
Speaker 2: occupied West Bank, while Israeli settlements, which are again considered
Speaker 2: illegal under international law, have grown rapidly. The settler population
Speaker 2: in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem has grown
Speaker 2: from two hundred and fifty thousand Israelis in nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: three to more than seven hundred thousand this year. In
Speaker 2: his talk with El Jazeera, author Tarik Berconi said the
Speaker 2: Israelis wanted Oslo because that's how they maintained their colonization
Speaker 2: by maintaining the facade of a peace process. Hamas was
Speaker 2: showing a mirror to the Israelis to say, if you're
Speaker 2: actually talking about the possibility of ending the occupation, then
Speaker 2: end it. That was their offer, instead of the nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety three awesome agreements that they would stop armed resistance
Speaker 2: if Israel let Palestinians be in the eastern side of Jerusalem,
Speaker 2: the West Bank, and Gaza. When we look into the
Speaker 2: history of Hamas, we see that its political leadership has
Speaker 2: over the years proposed newnumerous long term truces or cease
Speaker 2: fires to Israel in exchange for the realization of a sovereign,
Speaker 2: independent Palestinian state. But Israel has rejected those offers, arguing
Speaker 2: that Hamas could not be trusted to adhere to any
Speaker 2: long term ceasefire and insisting that any proposal for a
Speaker 2: short term pause and fighting were insincere and strategically aimed
Speaker 2: only at helping the armed movement regroup from losses. I've
Speaker 2: said this before, but it bears repeating. Every Zionist accusation
Speaker 2: is a confession. The reality is that Israel is the
Speaker 2: one who cannot be trusted to adhere to any long
Speaker 2: term ceasefire, as we have seen time and time again.
Speaker 2: Here is a summarized timeline of the most recent peace
Speaker 2: deal attempts that have been proposed since October seventh, since
Speaker 2: the genocide and Gaza started. In January twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: the Nyahoo rejected a Hamas proposal to end the war
Speaker 2: and release more than one hundred captives held by the
Speaker 2: group in exchange for a withdrawal of Israeli forces, the
Speaker 2: release of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, and recognition of
Speaker 2: Hamas governance over Gaza. And then, on May sixth, Hamas
Speaker 2: said it accepted a Gaza ceasefire proposal which was put
Speaker 2: forward by Egypt and Katar. This deal would come in
Speaker 2: three stages that would see an initial halt in the fighting,
Speaker 2: leading to lasting calm and the withdrawal of Israeli troops
Speaker 2: from the Palestinian territory. It would also ensure the release
Speaker 2: of Israeli captives in Gaza, as well as an unspecified
Speaker 2: number of Palestinians held in Israeli jails. The framework of
Speaker 2: the agreement in brief is the release of all Israeli
Speaker 2: captives in the Gaza Strip, civilians or military, alive or
Speaker 2: otherwise from all periods, in exchange for a number of
Speaker 2: Palestinian prisoners held by Israel as agreed upon, and a
Speaker 2: return to a sustainable calm that leads to a permanent
Speaker 2: ceasefire and the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Gaza
Speaker 2: Strip as well as its reconstruction in the lifting of
Speaker 2: the siege.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 2: It seems little familiar, doesn't it. But Israel unsurprisingly did
Speaker 2: not agree to this proposal. Instead, it bombed Rupha, which
Speaker 2: made the Israeli government's message clear there will be no
Speaker 2: permanent ceasefire. Israel's bombing of Rauphah was justified by Israel
Speaker 2: as a way to disband Hamas battalions and seize control
Speaker 2: of the Gaza Egyptian crossing, which Israel accuses Hamas of
Speaker 2: using to smuggle weapons into Gaza, But humanitarian groups were
Speaker 2: quick to point out that a closure of such a
Speaker 2: crossing would only lead to further disastrous consequences for the
Speaker 2: more than one million Palestinians living in the Daphah, the
Speaker 2: majority of them displaced from other areas of Gaza, who
Speaker 2: fled to Daphah after being told by Israel that it
Speaker 2: was a quote unquote say zone. Israel said at the
Speaker 2: time with the terms of the may Haama ceasefire deal
Speaker 2: differed from previous proposals it had seen, but analysts believe
Speaker 2: that the wider issue is that Israel is not willing
Speaker 2: to agree to a permanencyspire, even after Hamas releases all
Speaker 2: Israeli captives. Omar Dehman, an expert on Israel Palestine with
Speaker 2: the Middle East Council for Global Affairs, spoke about this
Speaker 2: in May, saying, the last couple of days have proved
Speaker 2: that Israel was not really negotiating in good faith. The
Speaker 2: moment that Hamas agreed to a deal, Israel was willing
Speaker 2: to blow that up by commencing their assault on Rafah.
Speaker 2: The goal is to destroy Gaza in its totality. And
Speaker 2: then on May thirty first, the US announced its own
Speaker 2: ceasefire proposal that Biden said would lead to a quote
Speaker 2: lasting ceasefire in the Gaza strip. He said the proposal
Speaker 2: involves three phases, the first of which would last six
Speaker 2: weeks and would include a full and complete ceasefire as
Speaker 2: well as the withdrawal of Israeli forces from all populated
Speaker 2: areas of Gaza. Again, this peace plan is almost indistinguishable
Speaker 2: from the one that ham also agreed to on May sixth.
Speaker 2: A quick reminder that only twenty five days before this announcement,
Speaker 2: on May sixth, Hamas had agreed to a ceasefire proposal
Speaker 2: by Egypt and Kattad that is almost identical to the
Speaker 2: one Biden announced on May thirty first, and Israeli leaders
Speaker 2: rejected that initiative. On June seventh, Israel rejected the UN's
Speaker 2: resolution of its own hostage deal offer, which was a
Speaker 2: permanent ceasefire in exchange for release of all hostages. A
Speaker 2: reminder that the only mass release of hostages has come
Speaker 2: through ceasefire exchanges, and that a ceasefire deal means freed
Speaker 2: hostages without mass death. It boggles my mind that there
Speaker 2: are still people defending Israel and saying all this Palestinian
Speaker 2: death is for the hostages, because again, if Israel cared
Speaker 2: about their lives at all, they would agree to a
Speaker 2: deal because that deal can guarantee the safety of the hostages.
Speaker 2: But they do not care about the hostages. Every time
Speaker 2: Israel rejects a deal, they are telling you that, and
Speaker 2: yet their supporters are too entrenched in the lies and
Speaker 2: propaganda of Zionism to ever see clearly. So, just to summarize,
Speaker 2: the US proposed a ceasefire deal which was almost indistinguishable
Speaker 2: from previous plans, agreed to buy Hamas, and then, while
Speaker 2: seemingly waiting for Israel to accept the deal, the US
Speaker 2: launched a military operation and committed more war crimes to
Speaker 2: murder hundreds of Palestinians, and they did this by hiding
Speaker 2: in humanitarian aid trucks while deceiving the world and the
Speaker 2: Palestinians into thinking that they were trying to formulate a
Speaker 2: ceasefire agreement. The US helped Israel plan and carry out
Speaker 2: its massacres. This is what peacemaking looks like to the
Speaker 2: United States. A ceasefire deal is the absolute bare minimum,
Speaker 2: and it is nowhere near enough. The removal of Nanyahu
Speaker 2: is nowhere near enough. He's being set up as the
Speaker 2: fall guy and scapegoat for Israel, skirting the responsibility of
Speaker 2: what the Israeli state has done to Palestinian people since
Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight. The Fight for Palestine is a liberation
Speaker 2: movement which demands nothing less than the full dignity, freedom
Speaker 2: and security of all who live under this violent military occupation.
Speaker 2: It's a demand to end Israeli apartheid, and until that happens,
Speaker 2: Israel will continue to get away with the Nekaba that
Speaker 2: started in nineteen forty eight and continues today. The Nekba
Speaker 2: never ended. Israel will continue to get away with the
Speaker 2: genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people until Israel
Speaker 2: and it's a apartheid is dismantled. A cease fire is
Speaker 2: the absolute bare minimum to achieving that, and that, my friends,
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