1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: All Zone Media. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to Katapem. Here. This is Scharen 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: and today we are continuing our conversation from yesterday where 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: we talked about the US proposed peace deal for Hamas 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: in Israel that looks suspiciously like a deal Hamas had 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 2: already agreed to just a few weeks before that and 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Israel did not agree to. We had ended part one 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: talking about how the IOF literally killed their own hostages 9 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: when they mistakenly thought they were threats, and I ended 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: saying speaking of threats, and I'm going to continue because 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: that's what professionals do. So since October seventh, Israel has 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: described Hamas as an existential threat, saying that it needs 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: to destroy the group and won't stop the violence in 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: Gaza until it does so. But I would argue that 15 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: most people who are pro Israel or Western Zionists in 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: general don't actually know anything about Hamas other than thinking 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: they're this big, bad evil that has to be eradicated 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: by the quote only democracy in the Middle East, which 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: I hope by this point people realize is a sick joke. 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: Hamas is suddenly being talked about on every news channel 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: and anything even remotely pro Palestine is now labeled as 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 2: pro Hamas when most people in this country, I would argue, 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: most likely had never even heard of Hamas before October seventh. 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: Labeling something as pro Hamas truly just means nothing. As 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: far as Israel is concerned, the UN is Hamas. In May, 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: Israel's ambassador to the UN, Galad Erdan, said in an 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: interview with Israel's Army Radio that the UN has quote 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: turned into a collaborator with Hamas, maybe even more than that, 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: a terror organization unto itself. Wow, Israeli leadership has just 30 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 2: continued to one up themselves when it comes to saying 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: the most insane fucking shit. And then, according to Zionists, 32 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: the college campus protests that we're calling for a literal 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: end to genocide are also pro Hamas. Earlier this month, 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: a lawsuit was filed in Verse by a US law 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: firm and an Israeli legal group who have teamed up 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: to suit two organizations involved in recent college campus protests, 37 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: the American Muslims for Palestine and National Students for Justice 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: in Palestine. They accuse these groups of collaborating with Hamas 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: to serve as their quote propaganda division in the US 40 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: arson of Trosky, the CEO of the International Legal Forum, 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: who was working with this US legal team of Greenberg 42 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: Tarig and the National Jewish Advocacy Center. He called the 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: American Muslims for Palestine and the National Students for Justice 44 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 2: in Palestine, as well as all the protesters supporting Palestine, 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: most of whom are students as quote the foot soldiers 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: of Hamas. If I was going to go through everything 47 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: that Israel and Zionists have labeled as pro Hamas, this 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: episode would never end. But I hope it's clear that 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 2: this label and accusation isn't based on any real sort 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: of evidence or proof, and it is only a way 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: to scare people into blindly supporting Israel in quote defending 52 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: itself big quotes there against this growing evil spreading across 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: the globe and invading our campuses, when in reality, there 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: would be no Hamas without Israel. Although Hamas eventually grew 55 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: into being the most active armed resistance group in Gaza, 56 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: it definitely didn't start that way and it wouldn't have 57 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: even had the power to grow the way it did 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: if it weren't for intentional actions by Israeli leadership that 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: started decades ago. Before we get into a timeline of 60 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: the Resa Hamas peace deals that have led to this 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: very similar deal at the US proposed all deals that 62 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: again Israel has rejected. I want to make sure we 63 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: at least have an understanding of what Hamas, even is Hamas, 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: which is an Arabic acronym for Islamic resistance movement, would 65 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: not exist today if it wasn't for Israel. American and 66 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: Israeli politicians are always saying the same thing, how dangerous 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: an evil Hamas is, without mentioning how Israel itself helped 68 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: create Hamas. The TLDR of it all is that israelis 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 2: helped turn a bunch of fringe Palestinian Islamists in the 70 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 2: late nineteen seventies into one of the world's most notorious 71 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: militant groups. Is in a conspiracy theory, It's a confirmed fact. 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: Former Israeli officials, such as Brigadier General is Sak Sagev, 73 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the 74 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 2: early nineteen eighties, have openly spoken about this. After his tenure, 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Segev told a New York Times reporter that he had 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a quote counterweight 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: to secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization aka 78 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: the PLO, as well as the FATA Party, which was 79 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: led by Yaser Arafat. Arafat two referred to HAMAS as 80 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: quote a creature of Israel. Hamas was officially founded in 81 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven, at the start of the First Palestinian 82 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: Intifada or uprising against the Israeli occupation, but its beginnings 83 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: actually started much earlier. Hamas founder, sheik ahmedia Sin, was 84 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. The brother Hood had 85 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: been repressed by Egyptians in Gaza prior to nineteen sixty seven, 86 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: but once the Israelis invaded and occupied the Gaza Strip, 87 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: they chose to encourage this group of extremist Islamists. The 88 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: dominant Palestinian political force in Palestine at the time was 89 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: the PLO, and it was deemed a threat to Israel, 90 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: and so Israel sought to undermine its power. The PLO 91 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: is a nationalist coalition which was centered around the secular 92 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: FATA Party led by Yasser Arafat. By empowering y Scene 93 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: in the Muslim Brotherhood, Israel thought they could divide the 94 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: occupied Palestinian people and eventually rule over them by playing 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: them against each other secular nationalists versus religious Islamists. In 96 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight, Yasin wanted to officially register his Islamic Association, 97 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: which was basically the precursor to present day Hamas. The 98 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: Israelis jumped on the opportunity to help make this happen. 99 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 2: Yasin built and grew a network of Islamists social institutions 100 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: across Gaza, funded largely by Israel. Avnar Cohen is a 101 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for 102 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: more than two decades. In two thousand and nine, he 103 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: told the Wall Street Journal Hamas to my great regret, 104 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: is Israel's creation. Back in the mid nineteen eighties, Cohen 105 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them 106 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: not to play divide and rule in the occupied territories 107 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: by backing Palestinian Islamists against the Palestinian secularists. He wrote 108 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: in his report, I suggest focusing our efforts on finding 109 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 2: ways to break up this monster before reality jumps in 110 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 2: our face. Clearly, his superiors did not listen to him, 111 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: and Hamas was the result. To be clear, Israelis had 112 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: helped build up a militant strain of extremist political Islam 113 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: in the form of Hamas and its Muslim brotherhood precursors, 114 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: and allowed it free reign in order to quiet any 115 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,239 Speaker 2: chance of progress in Palestine, and then when it became 116 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: convenient for their desionist narrative, the Israelis tried to bomb, 117 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: besiege and blockade it out of existence. David Hashem, a 118 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: former Arabs affairs expert in the Israeli military who was 119 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: based in President in the nineteen eighties, said the original 120 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: sin was Israel's support of ya See in the nineteen seventies. 121 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: He said, when I look back at the chain of events, 122 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: I think we made a mistake. But at the time 123 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: nobody thought about the possible results. Yeah, no shit. The 124 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: only American politician that I know of who has ever 125 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: referenced how Israel Is responsible for Hamas's creation is Ron Paul. 126 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: In two thousand and one on the floor of the House, 127 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: Ron Paul said Hamas was encouraged and really started by 128 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: Israel because they wanted Hamas to counteract Yaser Arafat. Speaking 129 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: of Arafat, not only did he himself tell an Italian 130 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 2: newspaper that Hamas is a creature of Israel. He also 131 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: said that the former Israeli PI Prime Minister Yasakrabien admitted 132 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: this to him, calling it a quote fatal error. Yaesin 133 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: was eventually assassinated by an Israeli air strike in Gaza 134 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: on March twenty second, two thousand and four. Sylvan Shalom, 135 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: former Israeli Vice prime minister, set after Yasine's death, that 136 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: quote Scheh Yassin and his organization Hamas are responsible for 137 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: the killings of more than four hundred Israelis, when actually 138 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: no Israel is clearly largely responsible. David Long, a former 139 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: Middle East expert in the US State Department under Ronald Reagan, 140 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: told journalist Robert Dreyfus, I thought the Israelis were playing 141 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: with fire. This, of course, is not a unique development, 142 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: as there have been dozens of instances of unneeded and 143 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: malignant US intervention in other countries for its own gain, 144 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: and since then Hamas has killed far more Israelis than 145 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: any secular Palestinian militant group. Israel built up Yasine and 146 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: Hamas as a rival to Arafat's FATA then they killed 147 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: ya scene, and then they doubled down and making Haamas 148 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: Israel's worst enemy, an enemy it would use to justify 149 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: to the entire world that it was not only okay 150 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: but necessary to control and massacre millions of Palestinians. In 151 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: the process of destroying this threat, Israel spent more than 152 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: twenty years helping build up Hamas and then spent another 153 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: twenty years trying to destroy it. All of this is 154 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 2: to say that, aside from the purposeful assistance from Israel 155 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: and creating Hamas, that Hamas wouldn't even exist if it 156 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: wasn't for the Israeli occupation, there would be no resistance 157 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: because without the ethnic cleansing enforced violent occupation, there would 158 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: be nothing to resist. In the process of bolstering this 159 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: militant group, Hamas also became the main armed force behind 160 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 2: the Palestinian resistance, and many view Hamas as the only 161 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: group even attempting to defend Palestinians in the face of 162 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: Israeli occupation, and the organization itself has changed over the years, 163 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: especially in the last decade, it seems like Hamas was 164 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: and is increasingly trying to establish a more favorable status 165 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: quo for the Palestinian people. Hamas's leaders were shaped by 166 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: the hard realities of a brutal occupation, which was marked 167 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: by mass arrests of Palestinians, the expropriation of Palestinian lands 168 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: and control of their resources. More than half a million 169 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 2: Palestinians were arrested and tried in Israel's military run courts 170 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: between nineteen sixty seven and nineteen eighty seven, and over 171 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred Palestinian homes were demolished and thousands of Palestinians 172 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: were forcibly deported aka ethnically cleansed. After Hamas won the 173 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: two thousand and six elections in Gaza, its leader Hania 174 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: said the group exccept did a state on the nineteen 175 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: sixty seven borders, as well as all the decisions taken 176 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: by the PA and the PLO, but there were no takers. 177 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: HAMAS leaders also backed the two thousand and two Era 178 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 2: Peace Initiative that called for the following the withdrawal of 179 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: Israeli forces from territories occupied in nineteen sixty seven, the 180 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: right of Palestinian refugees to return to the homes they 181 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 2: had been forcibly displaced from since nineteen forty eight. And 182 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: the formation of a sovereign, independent Palestinian state in return 183 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: for air recognition of Israel. But Hamas's offers were repeatedly 184 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: dismissed by Israel and ignored by Israel's Western allies, including 185 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: the US, despite Washington's claims of playing the role of 186 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: a quote honest broker in the conflict, Tarek Baconi, author 187 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: of Hamas contained the Rise and Pacification of Palestinian Resistance, 188 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 2: told Al Jazeera Hamas has always said that they are 189 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: ready to offer a truce and to stop targeting civilians 190 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: if the Israeli occupation or moves its settlers. At least 191 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty thousand Israelis live in hundreds of 192 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: fortified illegal settlements and outposts across the occupied Palestinian territories 193 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, the vast majority 194 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 2: of which are again built illegally, either entirely or partially 195 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 2: on private Palestinian land, and thus they violate international law. 196 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: One of the more infuriating and frankly incredibly stupid talking 197 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: points that Zionists have when it comes to talking about 198 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: Hamas is the two thousand and six election where Palestinians 199 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: elected Hamas as their appointed leadership. I want to remind 200 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: every one of a few things. The Gaza strip has 201 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: a very young population. Most of the inhabitants in Gaza 202 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: are under fifteen years old. The largest population group in 203 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 2: Gaza are children between the ages of five and nine 204 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: years old. This population wasn't even born yet, let alone 205 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: old enough to vote in two thousand and six. And furthermore, 206 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: leadership does not indicate your right to live a life, 207 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: your right to not be killed. If you're in America 208 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: and Trump is your elected president and you hate Trump 209 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: and maybe other foreign entities hate Trump, do you deserve 210 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: to die? No, you don't. The resistance fighters in Hamas 211 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: are not the ones who wrote the original charter. They're 212 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: not the ones who establish Hamas in the first place. 213 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: They're young people that are joining the most active armed 214 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: resistance to defend Palestine. It's their only option, and Palestinians 215 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: have tried other non violent forms of resistance against this occupation. 216 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, there was something called 217 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: the Great March of Return. It started on March thirtieth, 218 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and ended December twenty seventh of twenty nineteen. 219 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: Every Friday. For those years, Palestinians in Gaza demonstrated and 220 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: protested along the border fence between Israel and Gaza for 221 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: a right to return to their homes and to demand 222 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: an end to the Israeli blockade in Gaza. During this time, 223 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: the Israeli army killed a total of two hundred and 224 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: twenty three people. Over thirty six hundred and one thousand people, 225 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: including nearly eight thousand and eight hundred children, were injured. 226 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: This is after a peaceful attempt at demonstrating, after a 227 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: peaceful attempt at trying to resist occupation, they're still shot 228 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: and killed. They're shot with the intention to kill. Expecting 229 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: Palestinians to be pacifists when it comes to resisting a brutal, 230 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: violent occupation that has been now almost a century long 231 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: is very small minded and entitled and frankly wrong. Palestinians 232 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: have their right to resist. Armed resistance is legal under 233 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: international law when it comes to resisting and occupying power. 234 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: What does this mean? Maybe you've heard that train of 235 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: thought before. Let me explain it to you. Let's go 236 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: back in time a little bit. The General Assembly of 237 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: the United Nations the UNNGA, which was once described as 238 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: the collective conscious of the world, noted the right of 239 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: peoples to self determination, independent and human rights. As early 240 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: as nineteen seventy four, Resolution three three one four of 241 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: the UNGA prohibited states from any military occupation. However temporary 242 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: hum curious Israel has been doing that for decades now. 243 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: In the relevant part of the resolution, the resolution not 244 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: only went on to affirm the right to self determination, freedom, 245 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: and dependence of peoples forcibly deprived of that right, and 246 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: particularly peoples under colonial and racist regimes or other forms 247 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: of alien domination, but it also noted the right of 248 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: the occupied to quote struggle and to seek and receive 249 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: support in that effort. The term armed struggle was implied 250 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: without precise definition in that resolution and many early other 251 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: ones that upheld the right of indigenous peoples to evict 252 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: an occupier again the right of an indigenous people to 253 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: evict their occupier, but the imprecise language was changed on 254 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: December third, nineteen eighty two. At that time, the WNNGA 255 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: Resolution three seven Slash four three removed any doubt or 256 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: debate over the lawful entitlement of occupied people to resist 257 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: occupying forces by any and all lawful means. The resolution 258 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: reaffirmed quote the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, 259 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: territorial integrity, national unity, and liberation from colonial and foreign 260 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle. 261 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: And although Israel has tried time and time again to 262 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: recast this ambiguous intent of this precise resolution, trying to 263 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: place its now nearly century long, violent brutal occupation in 264 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: the West Bank and Gaza beyond this resolution's application. The 265 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 2: declaration itself proceeds to be very explicit in its language 266 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: when it comes to Palestine. Section twenty one of the 267 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 2: resolution strongly condemned quote the expansionist activities of Israel in 268 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: the Middle East and the continual bombing of Palestinian civilians, 269 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: which constitute a serious obstacle to the realization of self 270 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: determination and independence of the Palestinian people. That's what I mean, 271 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: and that's what many people mean when they say that 272 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: Palestinians have the right to resist and armed resistance is 273 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: illegal under international law. I want to bring that up 274 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: because even if Hamas does not reflect the viewpoint of 275 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: some Palestinians, Hamas is also the main armed resistance group 276 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 2: that has been fighting against the IOF in defending Palestine 277 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: Gaza in particular against Israel, and they have a right 278 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: to do that clearly, as international law states. Regardless, Let's 279 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: go back to talk about the history of Hamas and 280 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: how they amended their charter in twenty seventeen. In twenty seventeen, 281 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 2: Hamas formerly amended its original nineteen eighty eight charter. The 282 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 2: new charter holds that armed resistance against an occupying power 283 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: is justified under international law. And while the nineteen eighty 284 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: eight Hamas Charter has been widely criticized for its anti Semitism, 285 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven document states that Hamasa's fight 286 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: is not with the Jewish people, but with the Zionist project, 287 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: and as you should realize by now, anti Zionism is 288 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: not anti Semitism. The new charter also announced once again 289 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: that it would accept a Palestinian state on the nineteen 290 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: sixty seven borders. This would recognize, in effect, a two 291 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: state solution and therefore the existence of Israel as a 292 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: legitimate entity. This was proposed even as Israel continued to 293 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: insist that it can no longer allow Hamas to exist, 294 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: and as Israeli politicians, led by Netanyahu, repeatedly ruled out 295 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: a two state solution. Hama's political leader Hahaled Mischal said 296 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: at the time, the Hamas thinking from the very start, 297 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: was clear we are not facing a religious war. Hamas, 298 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: ever since its inception, realizes the nature of the struggle 299 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: against the Israeli occupier, that it is not a struggle 300 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: because they are Jews, but because they are occupiers. Israeli 301 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: officials dismiss the new policy paper as lies. In a 302 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 2: video Ntennyah, who symbolically and dramatically threw the document into 303 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: a trashman, saying it was an attempt to deceive the world. 304 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 2: Through its actions which span across decades, Israel has not 305 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: shown any interest in a political agreement, whether with Hamas 306 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: or or other Palestinian political parties like FATA, which governs 307 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: the occupied West Bank. Sary Arabi, a Ramala based political analyst, 308 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: told Al Jazeira, the issue is not about Gaza. It's 309 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: also not about whether Israel or Hamas started the war. 310 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: There are daily killings and assaults in the occupied West Bank. 311 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: There are attacks on the XA Mosque, there are prisoners 312 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 2: and checkpoints. The people in Gaza are refugees, they were 313 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: isolated and separated from the rest of the Palestinian people, 314 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: and the vast majority of Gaza's population are refugees who 315 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: were forcibly expelled from their homes and villages in the 316 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight Nekba by Zionist militias. Many political analysts 317 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: also blame Israel for the failure of the Oscil Accords 318 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: signed in nineteen ninety three. In nineteen ninety five between 319 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: Israel and the PLO, which was representative of the Palestinian 320 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: people at the time, the agreements led to the formation 321 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: of the PA, an interim five year governing body meant 322 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: to lead to an independent Palestinian state comprising of the 323 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: occupied territory of East Jerusalem and the West Bank and 324 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip. However, thirty years into its existence, the 325 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 2: PA has failed to create a state in the face 326 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: of Israeli occupation, legal land grabs and settlements, and then 327 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: Hamas took control of Gaza from the PA in two 328 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: thousand and seven. While there was initial support for the 329 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 2: OSCO Accords among Palestinians, the failure to reach a final 330 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: peace agreement by nineteen ninety nine and the growing settlement projects, 331 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: particularly under Nanyahu, left many disappointed. In a leaked video 332 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: in twenty ten, Nnyaho boasted about how he made sure 333 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: the Oslo Accords did not succeed. The hopes of the 334 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: Osco Accords turned into despair as Israeli policies under successive 335 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 2: governments continued to undermine the PA and its aspirations. Today, 336 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 2: the PA has limited administrative rule over pockets of the 337 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: occupied West Bank, while Israeli settlements, which are again considered 338 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: illegal under international law, have grown rapidly. The settler population 339 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem has grown 340 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: from two hundred and fifty thousand Israelis in nineteen ninety 341 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: three to more than seven hundred thousand this year. In 342 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: his talk with El Jazeera, author Tarik Berconi said the 343 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: Israelis wanted Oslo because that's how they maintained their colonization 344 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: by maintaining the facade of a peace process. Hamas was 345 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: showing a mirror to the Israelis to say, if you're 346 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 2: actually talking about the possibility of ending the occupation, then 347 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: end it. That was their offer, instead of the nineteen 348 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 2: ninety three awesome agreements that they would stop armed resistance 349 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: if Israel let Palestinians be in the eastern side of Jerusalem, 350 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 2: the West Bank, and Gaza. When we look into the 351 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: history of Hamas, we see that its political leadership has 352 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: over the years proposed newnumerous long term truces or cease 353 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: fires to Israel in exchange for the realization of a sovereign, 354 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: independent Palestinian state. But Israel has rejected those offers, arguing 355 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: that Hamas could not be trusted to adhere to any 356 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: long term ceasefire and insisting that any proposal for a 357 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: short term pause and fighting were insincere and strategically aimed 358 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: only at helping the armed movement regroup from losses. I've 359 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: said this before, but it bears repeating. Every Zionist accusation 360 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: is a confession. The reality is that Israel is the 361 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: one who cannot be trusted to adhere to any long 362 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: term ceasefire, as we have seen time and time again. 363 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: Here is a summarized timeline of the most recent peace 364 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: deal attempts that have been proposed since October seventh, since 365 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 2: the genocide and Gaza started. In January twenty twenty four, 366 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 2: the Nyahoo rejected a Hamas proposal to end the war 367 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 2: and release more than one hundred captives held by the 368 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: group in exchange for a withdrawal of Israeli forces, the 369 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: release of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, and recognition of 370 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: Hamas governance over Gaza. And then, on May sixth, Hamas 371 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: said it accepted a Gaza ceasefire proposal which was put 372 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: forward by Egypt and Katar. This deal would come in 373 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: three stages that would see an initial halt in the fighting, 374 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: leading to lasting calm and the withdrawal of Israeli troops 375 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: from the Palestinian territory. It would also ensure the release 376 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: of Israeli captives in Gaza, as well as an unspecified 377 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 2: number of Palestinians held in Israeli jails. The framework of 378 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: the agreement in brief is the release of all Israeli 379 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: captives in the Gaza Strip, civilians or military, alive or 380 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: otherwise from all periods, in exchange for a number of 381 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: Palestinian prisoners held by Israel as agreed upon, and a 382 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: return to a sustainable calm that leads to a permanent 383 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: ceasefire and the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Gaza 384 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: Strip as well as its reconstruction in the lifting of 385 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: the siege. 386 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: Hmm. 387 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 2: It seems little familiar, doesn't it. But Israel unsurprisingly did 388 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 2: not agree to this proposal. Instead, it bombed Rupha, which 389 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: made the Israeli government's message clear there will be no 390 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: permanent ceasefire. Israel's bombing of Rauphah was justified by Israel 391 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: as a way to disband Hamas battalions and seize control 392 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: of the Gaza Egyptian crossing, which Israel accuses Hamas of 393 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: using to smuggle weapons into Gaza, But humanitarian groups were 394 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: quick to point out that a closure of such a 395 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: crossing would only lead to further disastrous consequences for the 396 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: more than one million Palestinians living in the Daphah, the 397 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: majority of them displaced from other areas of Gaza, who 398 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: fled to Daphah after being told by Israel that it 399 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: was a quote unquote say zone. Israel said at the 400 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: time with the terms of the may Haama ceasefire deal 401 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: differed from previous proposals it had seen, but analysts believe 402 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: that the wider issue is that Israel is not willing 403 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: to agree to a permanencyspire, even after Hamas releases all 404 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: Israeli captives. Omar Dehman, an expert on Israel Palestine with 405 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: the Middle East Council for Global Affairs, spoke about this 406 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 2: in May, saying, the last couple of days have proved 407 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: that Israel was not really negotiating in good faith. The 408 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 2: moment that Hamas agreed to a deal, Israel was willing 409 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: to blow that up by commencing their assault on Rafah. 410 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: The goal is to destroy Gaza in its totality. And 411 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: then on May thirty first, the US announced its own 412 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: ceasefire proposal that Biden said would lead to a quote 413 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: lasting ceasefire in the Gaza strip. He said the proposal 414 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 2: involves three phases, the first of which would last six 415 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: weeks and would include a full and complete ceasefire as 416 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: well as the withdrawal of Israeli forces from all populated 417 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 2: areas of Gaza. Again, this peace plan is almost indistinguishable 418 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: from the one that ham also agreed to on May sixth. 419 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: A quick reminder that only twenty five days before this announcement, 420 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 2: on May sixth, Hamas had agreed to a ceasefire proposal 421 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: by Egypt and Kattad that is almost identical to the 422 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 2: one Biden announced on May thirty first, and Israeli leaders 423 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: rejected that initiative. On June seventh, Israel rejected the UN's 424 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 2: resolution of its own hostage deal offer, which was a 425 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 2: permanent ceasefire in exchange for release of all hostages. A 426 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 2: reminder that the only mass release of hostages has come 427 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: through ceasefire exchanges, and that a ceasefire deal means freed 428 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: hostages without mass death. It boggles my mind that there 429 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: are still people defending Israel and saying all this Palestinian 430 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: death is for the hostages, because again, if Israel cared 431 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: about their lives at all, they would agree to a 432 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 2: deal because that deal can guarantee the safety of the hostages. 433 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: But they do not care about the hostages. Every time 434 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: Israel rejects a deal, they are telling you that, and 435 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: yet their supporters are too entrenched in the lies and 436 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: propaganda of Zionism to ever see clearly. So, just to summarize, 437 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: the US proposed a ceasefire deal which was almost indistinguishable 438 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 2: from previous plans, agreed to buy Hamas, and then, while 439 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: seemingly waiting for Israel to accept the deal, the US 440 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 2: launched a military operation and committed more war crimes to 441 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: murder hundreds of Palestinians, and they did this by hiding 442 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: in humanitarian aid trucks while deceiving the world and the 443 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: Palestinians into thinking that they were trying to formulate a 444 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: ceasefire agreement. The US helped Israel plan and carry out 445 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: its massacres. This is what peacemaking looks like to the 446 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 2: United States. A ceasefire deal is the absolute bare minimum, 447 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 2: and it is nowhere near enough. The removal of Nanyahu 448 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: is nowhere near enough. He's being set up as the 449 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: fall guy and scapegoat for Israel, skirting the responsibility of 450 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: what the Israeli state has done to Palestinian people since 451 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight. The Fight for Palestine is a liberation 452 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: movement which demands nothing less than the full dignity, freedom 453 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: and security of all who live under this violent military occupation. 454 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: It's a demand to end Israeli apartheid, and until that happens, 455 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: Israel will continue to get away with the Nekaba that 456 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: started in nineteen forty eight and continues today. The Nekba 457 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: never ended. Israel will continue to get away with the 458 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinian people until Israel 459 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: and it's a apartheid is dismantled. A cease fire is 460 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: the absolute bare minimum to achieving that, and that, my friends, 461 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: is our episode for today. Please keep sharing and learning 462 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: about what is happening in Palestine, and don't stop talking 463 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: about it. 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