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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime m Man.

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Speaker 1: Today we gotta guest Us Man, someone I started listening

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Speaker 1: to as a teenager on the radio waves and Sacramento Uh,

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Speaker 1: and has worked his way to the top. Man, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show. He bro also one of the smartest brothers. Man.

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Speaker 1: He was just gaming us off camera. Man, how's life?

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Speaker 1: How's your family? I know you're working a lot still,

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Speaker 1: but uh talks a little bit about just what's the

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Speaker 1: brow up to last? Man. You know, my lady's great,

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Speaker 1: my daughter's great. Health is great. You know they still

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Speaker 1: like me. My key working at home. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm like throwing nothing and body yelling. I

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Speaker 1: sleep great. You know I can't. You know, I really

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Speaker 1: would have to work hard to complain. So you're working.

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Speaker 1: You're shooting two shows a day, five days a week. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do the morning show for Hot every day, Hot

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Speaker 1: Night seven hand New York ebraw in the morning, and

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Speaker 1: and then I do Apple Radio show in afternoons, which

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Speaker 1: is live from here in New York. We've got a

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Speaker 1: few facilities here, um, and that's mostly music and then

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Speaker 1: I do interviews for both shows too, graduation stuff. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: and then I do some other administrative stuff for Apple

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Speaker 1: to help manage a team of playlist programmers around the world. Really,

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Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't working with Apple. It's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's great. Um, great team, Brave Vibes, great company, you know, chilling.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a great situation playing a lot of music,

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Speaker 1: get to connect with artists from all over the world. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, get to help artists try to get noticed,

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Speaker 1: you know, help them build, build a plan, get their

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Speaker 1: music to people all out you know. So it's a

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Speaker 1: good deal. Black music months the future. Why is that

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Speaker 1: so important to you? Um? Well, we came up with

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Speaker 1: that because you know, we spend a lot of time

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Speaker 1: obviously my team and Apple, which is the hip hop

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Speaker 1: and R and B team, just talking about and protecting

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Speaker 1: and creating space for black music. Right. Um, we have

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Speaker 1: a unique opportunity, I believe with streaming, where you know,

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Speaker 1: when you look at our elders and the musicians and

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Speaker 1: artists that came before us, they didn't really have the

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Speaker 1: ability to protect their music. Some of them obviously couldn't

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Speaker 1: even own it, didn't even own it. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way systems were set up with record labels, a

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Speaker 1: lot of black artists got robbed. I mean, we know

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Speaker 1: all the stories, right, and we heard all the stories.

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Speaker 1: Um at this point, now we could create space in

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Speaker 1: the service for not only the artists in the future,

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Speaker 1: but making sure that we tell the stories of the

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Speaker 1: past too, and that we pushed that, you know, create

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Speaker 1: space and create noise and create opportunities so that we

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Speaker 1: and make sure that the stories don't get lost. And

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Speaker 1: you know, people like to remix stories and change stories,

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Speaker 1: so we got to make sure that stay true. We

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Speaker 1: keep telling the stories at home. It's a beautiful place

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Speaker 1: in the area I was. I was born in Berkeley, California,

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Speaker 1: out to Bates. UM. I went to school at the

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Speaker 1: Hoousand Oaks Elementary, Cornell Elementary, and Albany. I went to

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Speaker 1: UH Willard Junior High School in Berkeley for a little while.

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Speaker 1: UM I got family all over Oakland and my parents

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Speaker 1: split up. My mom moved to Sacramento and I went

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Speaker 1: to some school there too. I went to Sierra Oaks.

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Speaker 1: I was back and forth a lot. It was a

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Speaker 1: lot going on. UM. So I went to Sierra Oaks.

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Speaker 1: of schools growing up, Art and Junior High school El Camino. Um,

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Speaker 1: he went to Del Campo, right, Yeah, we used to

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Speaker 1: whoopay y'all. I graduated ninety three though, okay, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: with Derek Lee, went on the play baseball and graduated together. Um,

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Speaker 1: shout to Damian Gilbert. Gilbert the favorite family. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of cats came out of our school over there too.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so I was in and I started radio

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Speaker 1: when I was like fifteen years old and started internship.

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Speaker 1: El Comino, the high school I went to had a

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Speaker 1: radio station. I never worked in the class, but I

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Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about that. That's different time. That's

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Speaker 1: a different time. You want to afforded those privileges. That

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Speaker 1: wasn't one of my presents. And then, uh, let me see. Um.

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Speaker 1: I also worked at Art and Mall for a while

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Speaker 1: when I was young. I was you know, I was donning,

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Speaker 1: sell you know, there was closing stores, cross colors, Cross Colors, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um what else we had in there? Zcfici's and all

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Speaker 1: I've been in radio since I was fifteen. So what

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Speaker 1: artists made you fall in love with music? Though? Made

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Speaker 1: you want to be in love with music growing up?

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Speaker 1: I remember my cousin Crystal seaw me the Off the

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Speaker 1: Wall album and playing it for me and me being like,

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Speaker 1: oh this is I mean I was and I was

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Speaker 1: like four or five years old. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm young. You know the album? I remember my mom

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Speaker 1: bought me Um run DMC raising Hell. We used to

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Speaker 1: live in this building in uh Sacramento. That's uh, it's

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Speaker 1: called Arden, you know about Arden, and out to art

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Speaker 1: the street called jim Coe, which is like a Target now,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, one of them like generically big

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Speaker 1: box stores or whatever. So it was always music you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like Shaka Khan, remember buying those tapes.

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Speaker 1: We used to go to the store because we couldn't

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Speaker 1: get tapes, like it wasn't in New York. So you

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Speaker 1: all that. I bought my first Ralph Sampson, Puma's Back,

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Speaker 1: then the Ralph Samson, the black and reds with the

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Speaker 1: fat laces. I was that the whole era. I came

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Speaker 1: up under that. So it was seeing all of that. Man,

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Speaker 1: I remember going to the movies see Crushed Groove. But

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Speaker 1: between New Addition that was like from my era. New

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Speaker 1: all that uh L L cool J Rock, the Bells

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Speaker 1: was probably like, you know, my little zone. But I

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Speaker 1: was definitely listened to a lot of music growing up.

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Speaker 1: Dad was listening to George Duke and Chuck Man Gioni

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Speaker 1: what was mom listening to Mom's listening to Tina Marie.

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Speaker 1: I need a baker, I need a Baker's when ye

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Speaker 1: was at eight four five, yeah, eighty six, Yeah, all

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Speaker 1: out sports fan? Yeah what teams you're growing up? Raiders

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Speaker 1: since forever? Good good good. But when you're from that there,

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Speaker 1: I mean some people are die hard, but I had

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Speaker 1: left for both. I just like to see various sports

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Speaker 1: teams do well, but niners on my team. You know that.

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Speaker 1: Raiders fans we don't talk like that. Yeah, because we've

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Speaker 1: experienced We've experienced a lot of winnings, so we're not

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Speaker 1: we don't get mad when other people win. No, we're

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Speaker 1: not mad. You know, listen first first, absolutely not, no

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Speaker 1: Raiders fans get mad. We have been had championships before

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Speaker 1: you'll even got championships and not even that. Oh yeah

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Speaker 1: that y'all had championships and the gear there's a shirt

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Speaker 1: in it, right, I didn't even have to look for

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Speaker 1: I'm not you know, things have been. We have some

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Speaker 1: you know, off times recently, but we've had some great times.

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Speaker 1: His story, Yeah, but we talk about team evaluate how

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Speaker 1: many how many stories of the Raiders do you personally know?

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Speaker 1: Not even as a fan about players, the coach, and

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Speaker 1: the owner. Yeah, I just know a lot of losing.

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Speaker 1: But I'm okay with it because I, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I like when they do well, Like when Jerry Rice

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Speaker 1: went over there, they went to the Yeah Raiders. No,

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Speaker 1: hell no, Madden's Raiders coach. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: You play tech Mobowl? Maybe the Raiders of both Jackson

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Speaker 1: Brand Madden. Madden that you know and love it is

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Speaker 1: because of the Raiders. He was a head coach for

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, I'm not know that, and then went on

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Speaker 1: to become who he is. But he was a personality

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Speaker 1: for the Raiders. That's all Raiders. That's facts, facts, And

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Speaker 1: I don't even watch football like that. Like, so, why

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Speaker 1: y'all got me in this sport? When we talk about evaluations? Recently,

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Speaker 1: get your money up. Listen, I don't even entertain Cowboys

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Speaker 1: fans you talking about. Hey, I know y'all y'all on

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Speaker 1: for for some reason, the Lions play on Thanksgiving all

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Speaker 1: the time for no reason. There you go what's your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the Lakers right this second? Don't the gym

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Speaker 1: right now? What you're gonna do? No draft picks, no

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Speaker 1: Chet Wallace with him. I heard about all of this.

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Speaker 1: If I'm the GM right now, I'm glad I do

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Speaker 1: And be honest with you, because it's you, really, honestly.

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Speaker 1: You you got Lebron, you got Westbrook, you got Davis.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you got some great players that are underachieving.

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Speaker 1: looks like some serious eye contact need to happened and

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Speaker 1: people need to have some honest conversation about do we

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Speaker 1: protect legacies and do what we're doing, or we all

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Speaker 1: here just going for itself Because you know y'all, y'all

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Speaker 1: did high levels. I said it was the coach. I

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Speaker 1: think they're good. Now maybe we'll see the good accountability.

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Speaker 1: I think they're being accountability. That's what you mentioned. I think,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but you know you probably

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Speaker 1: know the brother better than me right, here's how the dude, dude,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna hold everybody accountable. And he said that

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Speaker 1: the press comes from russ to Lebron to a d everybody.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's in a position to where he

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Speaker 1: got to start this way though. If somebody not performing,

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Speaker 1: he can't be afraid to say somebody and be honest.

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Speaker 1: I don't even feel like I should be having this

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Speaker 1: conversation with y'all, like y'all should have this convotion. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I've never played a professional sports fan though, absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: I'm a sports fan and I'll talk about sports with

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Speaker 1: non sports people, but when sports people that actually didn't

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Speaker 1: You know what you're talking about, you know what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about. But yeah, I would say accountability and and

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Speaker 1: and the level of commitment is any anything you're trying

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Speaker 1: we agree on a plan. We everybody focus on their strengths,

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Speaker 1: and we we go out here and we go to war.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it. Let's do it accountability. We asked people

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Speaker 1: speaking of the NBA what kind of what they're welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NBA moment was what was your welcome to

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Speaker 1: came with an FM station. Rashi Wallace was like, have

424
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 1: been saying, I want to do radio, but the station

425
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: that I was out there was like a pop station.

426
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: So Paul Allen took this FM station. Basically was like,

427
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Speaker 1: we're gonna play hip hop because Raschi Wallace want to

428
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: do a radio show. And so I went there and

429
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: I worked there. I did mornings there for a little while,

430
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Speaker 1: and then eventually I was going back and forth when

431
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,239
Speaker 1: they're in Sacramento. And then after about two years there,

432
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: I got hired to Hot ninety seven. What was the

433
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: state of hip hop like when you got without ninety seven?

434
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,159
Speaker 1: When I got there, Yeah, what was the state of

435
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: hip hop? Like? I mean, it was great. You know,

436
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: it's two thousand and three, you know, ship, it was happy,

437
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: n J fat, you know, fifty was heating up, dep

438
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: setting all that was getting the streets together out here.

439
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: South was coming on strong. Yeah, South was coming on

440
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: strong because you know things. He obviously p had the

441
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: nineties that took us into what Bertman and then was doing.

442
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: You know all that that was a great time, the

443
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: rough Rodus, that's that's a great time. Who are some

444
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: of your mentors and ogs? When you got when you

445
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: got to the big stage up here? Hot should everybody

446
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: show love? You know? But I'm a West Coast you know,

447
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: they're like, who this motherfucker? Like that's that's standard. But

448
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: you know, they they had I known some of the

449
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: some of the players. I didn't know flex Um, I

450
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: didn't know seeing Angie, but I knew some of the people,

451
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, and they hired me to do a job.

452
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: But you know that comes with the territory ship. I

453
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: dressed up in a fish outfit. I'll be I you

454
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'll bet you've interviewed a lot

455
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: of people. Any interviews left you at all? I mean,

456
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm nerdy like this, but I interviewed, uh Lee

457
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: Scratch Perry. Um. If you don't know who Lee Scratch

458
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: Perry is, He's kind of like the the music and

459
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: sound man behind what we know today is reggae music

460
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: and dance hall. And you know, like the sound clash

461
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: and the sound systems and the sound effects, and you

462
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: know the way Bob Marley's legend albums was mixed and

463
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: made and asked Lee Scratch Perry Um. He recently passed away,

464
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: but I had a chance to interview him before he passed.

465
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: So that was kind of like for me, out of

466
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Speaker 1: all the artists that you've been around world through the interview,

467
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: what what artists that you feel like really stamped you?

468
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: If I may not saying you needed it, but what

469
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: artists feel like really put you on stamps you? They

470
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: showed you that love. Oh man, a lot of people

471
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: show love early. Um Buster always Busters always showed them love.

472
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: LLL you know what I'm saying. We started Kbnb, LLL

473
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: pulled up in Sacramento. LLL cool J came performed for

474
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: a new radio station in Sacramento. We had ll shout

475
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: the big pun. Big pun was there or even back

476
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: when k Arrest, you know, booking k Arrest one like

477
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: we was just an independent you know, tark And and

478
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: quest Love and the whole roots for a lot of them.

479
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was, uh Steve Rifkin,

480
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: you know when they first started loud. You know, I

481
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: was me. It was me, the Baker Boys, Swaying Tech.

482
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 1: When we played your records, you know, you got airplay,

483
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So people would come to

484
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: Sacramento just because I was playing their records. Red Man,

485
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know. And then obviously

486
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: the Bay Area family where you got E forty and

487
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: be Legit and d Shot and Sugar T and those

488
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: all that's all family like too short, uh, social mischief, Um, Sophia,

489
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like Matt Drey, you know

490
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: all that was love. That's I came up with all them.

491
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: You've been known for speaking your mind and kind of

492
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: being to the point, and you know, obviously it's been

493
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: seeing that. You know, there's some artists who don't like

494
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: that I have it. But how important do you think

495
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: it is to stay obviously true to yourself, but really

496
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: kind of just I'm gonna have the same conversation with

497
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: you whether we're on or off the camera. That's why

498
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: you're riding hi hunt of Miles staying in shape. Yeah,

499
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: ready to put somebody on the back. I don't I

500
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: don't believe there's anything I'm talking about that we would

501
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 1: want to fight over with regard to music, like, I'm

502
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: not talking street business. I don't delve into those things.

503
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't think that's something to be played with. I

504
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: don't talk about people's uh wives and kids. You know

505
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not passing. I'm not even a

506
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: type of do this passing judgment on what you really

507
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: doing with your personal life unless you harm it somebody else,

508
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And you're harming other people

509
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: and making it look like it's just all this all

510
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: just all good. And I've seen shows where people were

511
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: trying to downplay stuff that was really serious and it

512
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: didn't go right, you know what I'm saying. But I

513
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: respect you for that. Bro, rec you're speaking about that

514
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: black specifically, I think, yeah, I had no intention of

515
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: that being received from him that way that way. I

516
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: actually was trying to address something that I knew we

517
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: couldn't really delve into, but acknowledge that when it got

518
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: straightened out, I want you to come back because we

519
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: take that serious. I think all he received was we

520
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: take that serious as if I was coming at him.

521
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: That wasn't my intent at all. But then when it's

522
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: firals so fast and you're gonna you ain't just cussing

523
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: out my room. Like, we're not doing that. You're not

524
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: just yelling at the girl on the show. He didn't

525
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: even curse at me. He cursed at them. And I,

526
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's my show, so these people work on

527
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: my team, like I gotta step up from but like,

528
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. That's never going to happen, right,

529
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: and not even in something we gotta fight. That's why

530
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: I just ended the interview. He was like, well, this

531
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: is the you know where the interview going sother interviews.

532
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: So the songs, yeah, straight up talk about the importance

533
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: of using your platform to not only do music, but

534
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: touch on social issues and things you're passionate about. I think,

535
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: you know, that's just I don't. I don't. I don't

536
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: think everyone has to talk about the things that I

537
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: feel are important or think need to be shared. Nor

538
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: do I feel like I spent all my time on

539
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: those topics because I try to we you know how

540
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: how they seven the Morris Morning show Man. People trying

541
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: to get their kids to school, they're trying to uh

542
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: make lunch. You know, they're about to be in traffic.

543
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: They're dealing with real life things. How kind of we

544
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: We'll be trying to have fun first. Obviously there's gonna

545
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: be days that aren't fun. That's just real life. And

546
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna be as a team as us as the

547
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: hosts and y'all as the listeners. It's a funked up day.

548
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: Let's let's figure this sh it out. You know what

549
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Get a couple of records on talk about

550
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: the information that we have that's you know, useful productive.

551
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, that's you know, um, all of that.

552
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: But I would say the greater societal issues in America

553
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: are most of my passion points. If that's what you're

554
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: asking White supremacy specifically, Um, what that is? The architecture

555
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: of that and like the ways it moves and works,

556
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: and you know, dealing with, um, the trauma of our

557
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: ancestors being enslaved and and how to unpack that, you know,

558
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: because when you take the con structive white supremacy and

559
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: you overlay it with our trauma, and then you're dealing

560
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: with capitalism and you're dealing with all of these things,

561
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: and these mechanisms are moving in concert, you know. Um

562
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: So There's there's a lot there obviously that you when

563
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: you delve into those items. But yeah, those are passion

564
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: points for me to try to like see see right here,

565
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: you see what they're doing right here, You see right here?

566
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: Now you know what this is right here? Right? You know,

567
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: I operate in that space a lot of trying to

568
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, need to play see the play folding, what's next,

569
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, so we can try to not go where

570
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: they're at, but we gotta go where they're going, where

571
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: they're going. That's user breaking down the atlantaship very clearly

572
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: to us earlier. You've been in music for so long,

573
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: obviously it's changed and it's supposed to change. There any

574
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: constant you feel like there's been in music consistently since

575
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: you started to this today constant um, I mean hip

576
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: hop has been a constant. So I would say it's

577
00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: the most successful, longest running chart dominating music genre. And

578
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: they got a late start too, what you mean late,

579
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: like I said, wasn't really getting airplay util but it

580
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: was already moving though. You know, I don't just because

581
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: it ain't on the charts and on the radio don't

582
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: mean it's not affecting culture and people don't having success,

583
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, Curtis Blow was

584
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: on this you know, Sugar Hill Gang was on the radio,

585
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: but it was a song. At the time, it wasn't

586
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: like a full format of music with multiple artists hadn't

587
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: become that yet. Curtis Blow, you know, the first, like dude,

588
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: they say it was the first, like hip hop superstar,

589
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: you know, like he was out here and moving curs

590
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: but was popping. So rap had moments before it became

591
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: like a you know what I'm saying, playing all day long,

592
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, but make no mistake, there was a time

593
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: when the message Mellie mel Grandmass flashing Furies five. They

594
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: did not want to play that on the radio. When

595
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: you go look up the the history of black radio,

596
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: especially in New York. I don't want to speak for everywhere,

597
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: but New York black radio stations didn't want to play

598
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: rap music either. Didn't want to play that street music,

599
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: you know what they It was definitely like those messages,

600
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, that was considered gangster rap. What do you

601
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: feel like the turning point was other places trying it

602
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: and they're seeing the boy was corporate. They saw the

603
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: white kids was buying it. They saw the white kids

604
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: was going to the concerts. They saw that. You know, um,

605
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: this was money. Like you know, we live in America, man,

606
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: they see money happening. Money's happening. You know it's gonna happen.

607
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: So companies that had interest in selling advertising and getting

608
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: the largest audience started playing rap music all day. Speaking

609
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: of advertisement, when we were off camera, you were talking

610
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: to me and Jack, you know, who were your sponsors

611
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: and and and get that right. But then you also

612
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: brought suth Esska. I want you to elaborate on, you know,

613
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: just kind of the gym you were dropping before we

614
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: got on camera about shining light on these black companies

615
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: in the whole media. Play with that. Oh yeah. I

616
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: just feel like there's so many people like yourselves that

617
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: have are doing very well with your platform and extending

618
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: a platform from podcast to videos and show Tom and

619
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: Black Effect and Our Heart and the whole thing. Um

620
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: that creating space for black entrepreneurs and black business to

621
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: associate themselves with you guys is important or anybody that

622
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: has a brand. You know, we did the same thing

623
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: in radio, you know what I mean when somebody coming

624
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: in we're trying to figure out based on what they

625
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: can afford to get them into space. You know, if

626
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: you see that, a lot of DJs are doing that

627
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: across the country. But I was just saying specifically because

628
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: the advertising dollar and where it's being spent is how

629
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: platforms sustain. So if you're wondering why there's not a

630
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: platform for this, or why this went away or this

631
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: other thing didn't succeed or whatever, it is likely because

632
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: they couldn't find money advertisers to associate with it. And

633
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: so we need to find businesses as often as possible

634
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: that represent what we represent right to give them a

635
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: platform and make sure that they can sustain so that

636
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: we can continue to flow the art within our ship,

637
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: you know. And that could be a small thing, could

638
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: be it could be a T shirt line, it could

639
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: be even something larger like you was talking to other

640
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: things he was talking to me about off the air.

641
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: These other businesses, just a lot of them. So everybody

642
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: should be trying to do that, right because I think

643
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: black and brown time, like our level of engagement doesn't

644
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: get the value it deserves, right because that's what people

645
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: are doing. They're spending their time with something, and the

646
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: advertiser if they don't feel its valuable. They're not spending

647
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: money next to those things that they're spending time with,

648
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: So I think that's important, um And I think the

649
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: other level of it is is also just understanding that

650
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: oftentimes these major conglomerates, whether it be I Heart and

651
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: media outlets, whether it be Fox, whether that be ESPN,

652
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: whether that be any of these things, they're pulling a

653
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: lot of money off the table into their network because

654
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: they have such far reaching tentacles. So an advertiser of

655
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: Coca Cola, they're gonna spend a couple of dollars with

656
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: the black media outlet, but they're gonna spend a bulk

657
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: of their money with these bigger conglomerates, and so those

658
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: things grow versus the smaller black, mostly black owned minority

659
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: on outlets, you don't see them growing. It's because they're

660
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: not paying the level of dollars obviously, because these things

661
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: have more eyeballs. But they're gonna keep getting more eyeballs

662
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: because they're getting more the money and they can reach

663
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: their metric they're advertising metric, whatever they're trying to reach

664
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: for cheap. So then that advertiser, the advertising agency gets

665
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: to keep some dollars that they didn't spend They reached

666
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: their metric, but they kept a couple of dollars. So

667
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: they're about to get a bonus because they didn't spend

668
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: all the money, you see what I'm saying. So they

669
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 1: have you know, there's been mandates throughout you know, where

670
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: advertising agencies are mandated to spend money with black and

671
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: minority owned business, but they're on they're not spending like

672
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: they should be spending for the amount of time and

673
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: energy that we give to the things that we're consuming,

674
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it doesn't in that way,

675
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't play out. But the truth of the matter

676
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: also is a lot of us aren't just consuming black content.

677
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: We're consuming all different types of content right and so wherever,

678
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: and they're monitoring how much time we spend with it.

679
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: They see your behavior on your phone, they see what

680
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: you're tweeting about. They're measuring whatever you're streaming on your

681
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: apparatus at home, you're streaming Netflix. Netflix, see what you're doing.

682
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: They see what you're watching. You know, they know what's

683
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: going on a t l y. Why I say, on,

684
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: young thug, yes, give me your thoughts on that. I

685
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: think it's unfortunate because too many nomen to cut you off,

686
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: but too many artists, it seems like these days. And

687
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: I was talking about on my Instagram how they get

688
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: money and turning gangster. And I'm not saying this situation

689
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: with because I know thee there's a lot of that

690
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: going on. Can you talking about that? I'm not, you know,

691
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: that close to it to have expertise on this specific topic.

692
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: I will say that what they're being charged with, rico

693
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: charges and all of that is as American as apple pie.

694
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: I want to remind people of that because often times

695
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: we look at young black men doing crime in America

696
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: and we kind of try to treat it like it's

697
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: some abarition of like they're they're doing a behavior that

698
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: America has never done before, or it's never happened before,

699
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: or these black young people are have created this whole

700
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: world all by themselves and there's never been guns and

701
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: gangsters and murder and racketeering. They got a whole movies

702
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: about this for how long we've been promoting this in

703
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: our culture. So now you got some young people from

704
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: the slums, from the bottom right that want to expedite

705
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: the process to get into the ship we all brag

706
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: about the money, the cars, the trips, the planes. They

707
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: want to expedite that process, and that what you do

708
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: in America. When you want to expedite that, people hit

709
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: the streets. If they can't hoop, they can't play football.

710
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, in these guys situation,

711
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: they finessed and have some talent, start making some music. Now,

712
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: if we want to talk about the other part of it,

713
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: which is how their content is being used and their

714
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: visuals are being used to them incriminate, authenticate, you know,

715
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: I think that that's that's what's gonna happen when you

716
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: get to start getting charged with rico charges and you're

717
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: one ft and one fot out. If that's what the

718
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: scenario is, we've seen it before. Listen, they made announcements,

719
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: they ran news stories. Is that the district attorney down

720
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: in Fulton County, her whole campaign leading into getting in

721
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: office was to target this. So I think, like I said,

722
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: it sucks, it's unfortunate. I don't want us to act

723
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: like we should be treating young thug and and these

724
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: individuals and what they're being accused of is like some

725
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: rare thing in America. It's very common, and I think

726
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: that is more of the conversation. In my opinion, we

727
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: should look at ourselves in the mirror, and we should

728
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: be indicting ourselves on our failures because some young dudes

729
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: with talent and success still felt culturally or even like

730
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: tied to being a part of something that could potentially

731
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: get them these type of charges. You know, I don't know,

732
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know the facts that I'm not

733
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 1: close to it, so I don't really know much about

734
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: anything that's going on in Atlanta like that, So I

735
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: only know what people are reporting on. So I hope

736
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: what we're hearing ain't true. But I also don't want

737
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: us to start We need to. We always screwed this

738
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: up man as adults, you know what I'm saying. When

739
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: I was young, it was the same thing with c

740
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: the Loris Tucker and I want to take the parental

741
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: stickers off and not wanting to play pop music, and

742
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: they want to burn CDs, and they want to take

743
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: us out, take young black men out in front of

744
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: the government and put us on display like this is

745
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: the problem. This is the problem. This is the problem.

746
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: So I want to go back around to the fact

747
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: that what they're being accused of, Young Thugg and m

748
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: are being accused of is an emulation of things that

749
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: have been happening in American culture since the beginning. So

750
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: we gotta keep why we keep acting like this behavior

751
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: is like not a part of the fabric of the

752
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: society we live in, you know what I'm saying. So

753
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: I think that part is I'd like to see some

754
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: time spend on that from people, right. And I think sometimes,

755
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's so daunting of a thought you think

756
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: of it in those terms that some people just they

757
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: don't really know how to do the work to unravel that.

758
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: That's hard to do. And with whack leadership, whack politicians,

759
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: whack school system, you know, corruption and government people spending

760
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: all types of money and all that ship, it's hard

761
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: for people to see straight man gas prices. I like

762
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: with Ebro, what you're talking about, fan, Like, I'm just

763
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: trying to you've seen this seven dollars a gallon, fan,

764
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Get somebody in here to fix

765
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: this right now. And then they got you voting emotionally

766
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: now now you know, now even't forgot about qualified immunity

767
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: and police brutality and all this other ship they got

768
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: you so wrapped up in gas prices and shells being

769
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: empty and ship that you vote in. Who's gonna fix

770
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: that tomorrow? Next thing? You know, you ain't even dealt

771
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: with the fact that the George Floyd Bill took so

772
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: long just got signed. You know what I'm saying. You

773
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: ain't even dealt with the gun thing because you're like, yo, fam,

774
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: these white boys is out here spraying people up. They

775
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: went a man went and hunted black people, hunted them

776
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. He drove to the nearest black populated place

777
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: with nigger spray written on his gun and started shooting

778
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: black people. Did you did you know that one of

779
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: the guys that that was killed that in Buffalo four

780
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: days or like a week before, he was on a

781
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: security man that made the engine that ran on water.

782
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: I've seen it. I've seen tick man. I saw it.

783
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: He just came up with that's crazy, se dog. What

784
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: a coincidence, step man. So that's why I say, it's

785
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: a lot of wheels turning. Man, It's a lot of

786
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: wheels turning all the time. And so you know, you

787
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: ask what I'm passionate about. So I touched on those items.

788
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But I try not to

789
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: beat the I don't want to be to know it all. God,

790
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: I know a few things. I read a few things.

791
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: I listened a lot, you know. I try to give

792
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: people periodically some some things to think about, you know

793
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I don't. I don't claim to

794
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: how to answers neither, though, you know what I'm saying.

795
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: I would say that the best thing to do is

796
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: own property and take your time and be patient out here. Man,

797
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: it takes time to build wealth. You know, it takes time.

798
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying. Even y'all cats, you

799
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You got a lot of money, man,

800
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: y'are rich, a lot of money, and y'all know people

801
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: say that to you all and you're like, I mean,

802
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: I'm doing good, I'm doing great relative, But it's a

803
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: whole other level. Rich and wealthy is a big different

804
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: wealth and generational and people that I mean, you'll know, kids, kids, kids, kids. Yeah,

805
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: so we just got I think we gotta pace ourselves too.

806
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: I want to put that message out there, man, you know,

807
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: lock in and pace yourself. You know, we lost a

808
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: lot Dolf King Vaughan, pop smoke artists, the young artists

809
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: a getting a lot of money, man, And there's a

810
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: lot of probably still involved in the streets. And I

811
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: know when we came up, everything I did was for

812
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: me to get out my environment. But it seemed like

813
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: it's back was Now what advice would you give young

814
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: artists coming up? They're starting to see a bag umid.

815
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: I want to I want to say, hey, everything you mentioned,

816
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: those brothers that whold all of them stories terrible. We

817
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: love Dolf. I love what he was doing, his family,

818
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: what he was trying to build, that trouble all that.

819
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: Like shout to King Van he was getting getting his

820
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: feet under and making great music. And and and there's

821
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: been a lot of other little key recently and and

822
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say that because remember I've

823
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: been watching this a long time at a local level

824
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: in Rady, Yoh, and been in media since these things

825
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: was happening. Then. It just they didn't have social media accounts. Right.

826
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: There was inspiring music people aspiring rappers, but you wasn't

827
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: even called an inspiring rapper back then. You wasn't able

828
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: to have your stuff on a streaming service. When they

829
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: could go look for your I G account where he

830
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: was promoting your music. So you might have just been

831
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: somebody around the way that they would just be like,

832
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, another black man shot, gang violence, altercation, robbery,

833
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: grant them auto, you know, whatever the scenario is. But

834
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: they might have really been trying to do their music

835
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: thing on the side. We just you may not have

836
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: known that. So I just want to say that once again,

837
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: it's always hard for me to look at these terrible

838
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: trends in our community and then our culture as isolated.

839
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: It's always gotta go. But parking big you know, that happened,

840
00:44:52,600 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: and I was traumatic for you know, biggest hartists in

841
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: the world. They got killed, right, And we can come

842
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: up with all the reasons and stories and all that,

843
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: but the truth is they're not here. And so it's

844
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: back to the culture of America, back to how we

845
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: deal with one another, back to what we hold in

846
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 1: place value on. I think that we're going through another

847
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: period where it's important to pay attention to why these

848
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: things happening. You know what I mean that socio economic

849
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: circumstances around all of this. Coming out of the pandemic,

850
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: the streets has dried up side hustles is tough, gentrification, joblessness,

851
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: mental health. You know what I mean. These are societal factors,

852
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: right because whether you wrapp in, hooping, towing cars, we're

853
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: all dealing with the same kind stresses in society, you

854
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and you know, obviously we

855
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: talked about people who get killed who have more notoriety

856
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: than you know, the young men in the neighborhood. But

857
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: it's still a life, and it's still a black life,

858
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: and it's still you know, people dealing with the same

859
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: societal pressures and issues. A man decided to go kill

860
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: trouble for whatever reason, A man decided to go kill

861
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Nipsey hustle, that that was what he was gonna do

862
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: on that day. So sometimes you gotta because we'll all

863
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: get emotional, right like it'll happen, But you gotta kind

864
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: of sometimes too. And I do that for my own sanity.

865
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: If I just go all emotion, what's what? How am

866
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: I useful to my family? You know what I mean?

867
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: To to my team I work with. If I just

868
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: go all emotion, you know, I do it, But you know,

869
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: I try to think more. Macro will try to takes practice.

870
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: We'll wrapper stand out to you right now. I know

871
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: is your is your guy right now? But why wouldn't

872
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: you Kendrick? Yeah, well, I mean, I know it's hard work.

873
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: It's hard work to listen to Kendrick. Kendrick make you work,

874
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: and people need to go ahead and say it's cool. Man.

875
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: I don't say you don't like it, say I didn't

876
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: get it. And it was a lot for me. And

877
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: there was a lot of chapters in that book, and

878
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: I need to go back and listen again. But let's

879
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,479
Speaker 1: not act like it ain't good music and it ain't

880
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: good rapping. We're not gonna do that, folks, We're not

881
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: gonna do that. I wouldn't do that anyway, because some

882
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: people would. I'm not saying y'all, but some people act

883
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: like it's stop it over your head the first time.

884
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: And that's cool. It's it's so cool that you didn't

885
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,959
Speaker 1: get whatever Kendrick was doing because I had to listen

886
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: to a bunch to keep up. It's a lot, But

887
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I love what Cold is doing. Kanye has

888
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: done some great things recently, even though you get on

889
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: my nerves, you know, but still man, musically, yeah, say

890
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: that again. Trying to think what else I like E

891
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: S T G Y my boy right there. I listened

892
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: to It's a lot man. Actually I love this kid.

893
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: I d k out of Maryland, Denzel Curry. I don't

894
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 1: know if you'll up on. Are you onto the Russell yet?

895
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: I love the Russell? Yeah, he did a thing. I

896
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: love him. He did a thing the other day. He

897
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I'm raising money for something. I put

898
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: some money on it. Like, I don't you know. He

899
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: was like, buy one of these gold coins and do something.

900
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't even know what has happening

901
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: with it, but shout to him, Hey, before we get

902
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: to quick hitters. Um, obviously our girl, Britney Grinder has

903
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: been detained free Bhi just thought so just kind of

904
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: the overall because it's always a bigger picture of things. Um,

905
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: it's fucked up and I hope it gets resolved. I'm assuming,

906
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: based on the articles that I've read about Britney Grinding

907
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: in the whole situation, that there's some sort of list

908
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: of like prisoners that we have and prisoners that they have.

909
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: Crazy right, well right right, Because I just saw a

910
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: story where there was some prisoner exchange. The prisoner exchanged

911
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: and everybody was like, why not Brittany. So I had

912
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: to go, Okay, well she might not just be on

913
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: the top top of the list because these other people

914
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: been in three years. I can tell you right now.

915
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm not in politics, and I've never met Vladimir Putin,

916
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: but based on what's going on, I don't think he'd

917
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: give a funk about nothing we're tweeting in any I

918
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: think Joe Biden is saying or whatever petition I signed,

919
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: because I signed the petitions too. Um, so it's fucked up.

920
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: And she got it was like the worst time. It

921
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: was the worst it was. I mean what she got

922
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: to Russia and then up the next day and some

923
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: wow ship. It's fucked up. So I just hope that

924
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: she's uh as best as she possibly could be in

925
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: this current situation and that it gets resolved quickly. And

926
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: I do appreciate the convo of like, you know what

927
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: if this was a Lebron James or somebody that had

928
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: got caught up in this. I appreciate that thought because

929
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: I actually said to myself, what what what? What what happened?

930
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: What could happen? It wouldn't have been in jail. Still,

931
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: well okay, but like, like, what we have been the

932
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: thing with the war, assuming there's a Russia is literally

933
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: bombing a nation that we support, killing kids and doing

934
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 1: all type of while a war is going on right

935
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: there right now. But so then you start too, why

936
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: was Brittany Grinder, a superstar in the NBA having to

937
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: travel the way she needed to travel? How comes she

938
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: don't have the travel luxuries that the Lebron James or

939
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: someone else, Because that's really what had come down to.

940
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 1: Lebron James wouldn't have been going through no security thing, right,

941
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: Steph wouldn't have been having to walk through a regular

942
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: airport because go all the way back what they're getting paid. Yes,

943
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: I said the big picture, So you gotta zoom out

944
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 1: sometimes facts. So now we're talking about wage. Gay they

945
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: just gave the women's soccer team the same as the men.

946
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 1: They should make more. They are actually winning, Ben winning,

947
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Ben winning, been winning, So then you go and winn,

948
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: so you see I go. So then you go into

949
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: why is society more interested in watching men play even

950
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: if they're losing, then watching women if they're winning. Why?

951
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if they want to have that conversation.

952
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the time to have it right. That's

953
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: the only way you can fix it by having that conversation,

954
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: those tough conversations, you know, and then you get into

955
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, who's moving faster, who's dunking the ball, and

956
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: what's more exciting and blah blah blah blah. You know,

957
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: you get off into it. I see, y'all see in

958
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Christ dangerous. It's over there. They gave me this is

959
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: dangerous brother uncle to hands. So you go down. Yeah

960
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: they dunk, they're dunking now, so we go now. You know,

961
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: I like listening. So that's why I think about right,

962
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: because it's hard for me once again to just be

963
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: like yo, emotional about the Britney grinder thing without actually

964
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: going all, right, what's what's taking place here, what's the

965
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: root of it? How did we get how did she

966
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: get in this predicament? Right? Because then there's a whole

967
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: conversation about w NBA players having to play year round.

968
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: They make enough money here during that season, they wouldn't

969
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: have to go overseas once the season overhere to make

970
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: ends meet. You know what I'm saying. They just make

971
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: it here, but they don't have to go overseas, point

972
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: blank and now to fix everything, but everything they can't

973
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: make it here because they're not generating enough money because

974
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: they don't have the eyeballs. Mm hm No, it's deep.

975
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,439
Speaker 1: That's why I said. I said, I said bigger picture

976
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: when I asked you the question. Because it's a big picture.

977
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: People think like you said, like you got to zoom

978
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: out sometimes to zoom man to really kind of see

979
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: the whole free b G Baby Free. You know I

980
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: loved your family. What's the funniest artist you've interviewed or

981
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: worked with? Artists like a like an artist, musician, musician,

982
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: not a comedian. I was gonna be like, yo, he damned,

983
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: so don't count about wake up funniest. I mean, Jay

984
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: is obviously funny, y'all if y'all have been around Jay

985
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: Z got jokes all the time. He laughing all the time.

986
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: He got jokes. He don't take himself too serious. You

987
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, He's great. You know what I'm saying,

988
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: he's he's great. Kanye is very funny, like very funny.

989
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Kanye has been very funny

990
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: for a long time. I mean red Man, I was man.

991
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: Obviously it's wow Keith Murray is funny as fuck. It's

992
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people are here man and just are

993
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 1: great and funny. Okay, let me cardi b hilarious, real

994
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 1: life hilarious, hilarious. Let me phrase question. You got somebody

995
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: on your show, Yes, and they said something that got

996
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: your laughing so hard that y'all go all off script. Well,

997
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: we never on scripts. Always freestyle. There's literally no script.

998
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: There's no Everything is all improv all the time, the

999
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: whole show, the whole shows improvlems. I mean, there's certain

1000
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: things that are um, you know, bench what we call

1001
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: a benchmark. We're going into this segment. We got a

1002
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: routine and we go into it. If you ever listen

1003
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: to our morning show, we'll be singing. We got a

1004
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: little songs. We've been singing all types of ship having fun.

1005
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: Man his parents and kids in the car. Man as

1006
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: we're just trying to have fun. Fat Joe Kalid, I mean,

1007
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: Kali has been coming on, you know and giving us

1008
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: so many things. Another one. Like a lot of people

1009
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: don't know the relationship between our show and Khalid. Kalid

1010
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: was at a point went in his career where he

1011
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: was leveraging everything he had to make an album. I

1012
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: forget what your album it was. This was This might

1013
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: have been two thousand and fourteen or fifteen. Remember when

1014
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: Kalid got lost on the jet ski in the dark?

1015
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Social media where it was at around that time. I

1016
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: was with the Clippers at the time, So yeah, what

1017
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: you are, we're talking fifteen with them? Got it so

1018
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: right before that, you know, and he was just getting

1019
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: on social media being himself. But Kaleg has always been funny,

1020
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: and so he never used to like coming on morning

1021
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: shows because he didn't like joking around. He'd be like,

1022
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't like morning shows, man, I ain't you know

1023
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: coming up there that funny? And I used to be like,

1024
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: you don't know you're funny, like you college, you don't

1025
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: know you're funny, and you can't remember college a radio guy.

1026
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: So he did nights in Miami nine nine Jams. Also

1027
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: another funny person in Funk Flex. Funk Flex is hilarious,

1028
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: m hilarious. But they're just being themselves. So to them,

1029
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: it's not they're not doing routine, They're not you know

1030
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So there's a lot of things that

1031
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: Cali would come up to the show and we would

1032
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: take sound bites of what Kali was saying, and LUs

1033
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: were like another one, and like because he would just

1034
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: be talking, I'm making another hit. He would be like

1035
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: another one, and so we would just take it because

1036
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: it was funny to us. Remember the Remember the video

1037
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: with Kalid was like to the girl, he was like,

1038
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: you smart, Remember that whole ship. That was from a

1039
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: whole the whole thing. Man. So a lot of times,

1040
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 1: a lot of we have a lot of ship with

1041
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: Kali from over the years, all the way up through

1042
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: Congratulations you played yourself and all all of those things. Man,

1043
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: that's cut shops for goddamn. Sure, bro, I'll do it

1044
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: because I'm just glad I missed my shoes. I've been

1045
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: dodging bulls. I gotta take these motherfucker's off whites. Four

1046
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: dunk loths on white. Let me see the back. I'm special,

1047
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: They're special. Yeah, I want to suck them up. You

1048
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: can get more of those stranding on the island. Five albums,

1049
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: You're Taken with You, sho Greatest Hits, Bob Marley, Legend,

1050
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder Songs in the Key of Life. Oh I

1051
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: got a cheat coat. Prince put out this project once

1052
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: or I don't even know if Prince did it. Maybe

1053
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: the label did it when he was beating with him

1054
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was called hits and B sides. That

1055
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: ship had like forty joints on them, bringing that ship. Yeah,

1056
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: this whole thing, bringing that and then I don't even know.

1057
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: It'd be tough. Don't you listen to too much music?

1058
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,959
Speaker 1: Catalog in his head is too big. But I'm saying

1059
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: here because I'm trying to figure out, like stranded strands

1060
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: the last you got four albums, no hip hop in

1061
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: there yet. Yeah, I didn't put no rapping there because

1062
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: if I'm stranded, you don't want to hear that ship.

1063
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: I want to hear that ship right now. Man, we're

1064
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: just trying to make it through. They don't stress me out,

1065
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: man with all that ship. But you might come to

1066
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: where you gotta you gotta survive, go through survival mode. No.

1067
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: I let Stevie sing, okay, all right, taking the church.

1068
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: Let Prince do his thing now. But I was thinking

1069
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 1: about I was thinking about what I bring. Uh, I

1070
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: might I might bring Biggie Life after Death because musically

1071
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: and the raps and the amount of hits on the projects,

1072
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: would you know what I mean? Because because if you noticed,

1073
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: I started thinking about, like I can't just have like

1074
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: little tense song albums and I'm stuff. I needed things

1075
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: that I need a little bit more larger swath of material.

1076
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: You know, favorite restaurant a dish in NYC oh restaurant

1077
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: or dish. There's too many, bro, I'll be playing myself years.

1078
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: You ain't got a favorite spot you go to? Nope.

1079
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't like people knowing where I'm gonna be at

1080
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: home at that. I don't like being at the same

1081
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: place all the time. And you know, it's probably some

1082
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: amazing people to every type of food, type of food,

1083
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: favorite type of food. I probably top two is probably

1084
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: Japanese and Mexican. Yeah, not at that five dinner guess

1085
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,479
Speaker 1: dead or alive. I mean, it's probably the same people

1086
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm bringing the albums from. Okay, you know Steve Yeah

1087
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: and Prince Yeah and you cooling. We're gonna be on

1088
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: the piano singing songs. Br G. Cracking jokes. He's funny.

1089
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: What's press doing making pancakes? Trying to go out? If

1090
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: you could have one that's on our show, who would

1091
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: it be? But but on your show? On this show?

1092
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: But before you answer, you have to help us get

1093
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: your answer on the show. You know everybody too, you

1094
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:21,479
Speaker 1: know everybody? Oh my god, Well, I want to first say,

1095
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: what's your budget? Whatever you need because if y'all got

1096
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: me working, y'all must have carved out a check. You know,

1097
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: we get yourself if you get it, and you know everybody,

1098
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: I would like to see y'all get and I gotta

1099
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: help you do it. Just a text. It ain't just attenative, bro,

1100
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: you know what it is. He's gonna have to make

1101
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: a call. He's giving us someone big jack. He's thinking

1102
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: right now because see this is this is why this

1103
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: is hard. Let me tell you why this is hard.

1104
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: I can't get him for y'all. Just say, yo, I

1105
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: know something. Jay Z has never even come on my show.

1106
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Listen,

1107
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: consider him a friend. You can call him absolutely, he

1108
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: ain't coming. And you're a man in your word too.

1109
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to Yeah, trying to figure it out.

1110
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: Like if you say it, I guarantee it's gonna you

1111
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,919
Speaker 1: are a man of your word. Yeah, try. I don't

1112
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: know if that's all we could ask, that's all we ask.

1113
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: If Oka said a whole bunch of names today. Huh, Kanye,

1114
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: I can try. I think me and him ain't really

1115
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: in a good space right now. We're kind of not

1116
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: really good now. We're not bad, but we're not good.

1117
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: I have opinions that you know what I'm saying. I'm

1118
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: not gonna just I probably agree with your opinions, so

1119
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: I feel you. Okay, it's two people, all right, Mad

1120
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: and Red Man. I don't do that for you can

1121
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: get him at the same time. We're gonna smoke out

1122
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: and have a crazy I can make that call because

1123
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: they're doing a read. They're probably doing a real high too.

1124
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: We ain't have a part of it though. I don't

1125
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: think though, are they. But we need to be the

1126
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: new method. We can do it. I like it. We

1127
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: can do that, Sack and Pedro. You know what, it

1128
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: would be great. You know what the wind is for

1129
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 1: y'all because you know meth in the gym and so

1130
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: it's Red Man. Ain't they might be better athletes than

1131
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: y'all too right now, Absolutely not at that. But I

1132
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: ain't that far away. No no, no, no, no, that's

1133
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: not happening. That's not happening. Might be stronger than me.

1134
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: Because living ways. But so I think because you got

1135
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: that energy right there, I think that is a great

1136
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: spinoff the showtime where met because they all smoked, they

1137
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: all got their little y'all want a little health smoking healthy. Yes,

1138
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So let's put it to

1139
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: the text. You want to eap it? No, he said, no,

1140
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: good that it is that. We appreciate that absolutely, watch promote. Yeah,

1141
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: have us all come on the show and talk ship.

1142
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: There was no reach out to him right and math,

1143
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: we need y'all you say right now, let me see

1144
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: if what this this is all the smoke spake ship

1145
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: coming in for landing free Bro coming through Bro, what's

1146
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: bro smurch sweatsuits? Especially twenty certificate of authenticity. There's only

1147
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: four and I do that. You know what I'm saying.

1148
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: You got the white one, the green one. You got

1149
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: the white. That's all that's hard. Don't smoke with that.

1150
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: You if you ask, you got to give me trouble.

1151
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: Gonna get dirty right away. You smoke, You're gonna waste

1152
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: the ashes on it. Yeah, this is fire though. Man man,

1153
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: congrats all man for just being cool. Dudes appreciate and

1154
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 1: you have a success after another chapter in life. That's

1155
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: the goal, right, People don't get that opportunity like that's

1156
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: a big y'all realize that's a big deal, right, appreciate that. Man,

1157
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: he didn't pick up me, didn't pick up my call. Man,

1158
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: you know we we know you want to texting right now.

1159
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: We trust you. But man, thank you for your time.

1160
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get it again because I lost my

1161
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: eye cloud. No, you lost everything. Yeah, but I didn't

1162
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: even call god hacks. My Instagram came back though, Bro,

1163
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: my Instagram came back. It was funked up at how

1164
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: I had to save just something. They pulled some bullshit.

1165
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: They don't want me. But anyway, man, that's nah. We

1166
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you forgot his PASSWORDA we were we we're smoking

1167
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: too much weed, don't know its trying to call to

1168
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: and it was like, sir, we went way deeper than

1169
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: that out forever. Don't tell you your phone, tell you

1170
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: some ship like that. Log you out for suppress one

1171
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: more number. I dare you ask well, try to get

1172
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 1: us wrong? If anything, that would be my son playing

1173
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: my funk. But man, we already got you. We appreciate

1174
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: your time. Man, We appreciate what you do. In the space.

1175
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been a fan of you since

1176
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 1: I was a teenager. I appreciate you continue to press

1177
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: your message, be productive on the platform and showing people

1178
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: the way. Man. We appreciate you. B Yeah, you know listening.

1179
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I might do another part I

1180
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: don't do. I've never been you know, get yourself out there.

1181
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: I was like this, get yourself out there. There ain't

1182
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,919
Speaker 1: too many like ours though, So don't expect this ship

1183
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: when you go somewhere else. But what people need to hear?

1184
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: That for real. But you got to say, especially about

1185
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: what's going on, Bro, because a lot of the messages

1186
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: that that that's coming out are skilled and a lot

1187
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: of people that's given the messages aren't the people that

1188
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: should be giving the messages. So people not listening. But

1189
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: you people would listening for me, Bro, I would love

1190
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 1: for you to continue to be that Guy's important to

1191
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: stand up and speak us and to give those messages

1192
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: because you give them not only the right way, but

1193
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: to educate a way. And you say what people need

1194
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: to hear, not what they want to hear. And that's

1195
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: what we do. You know what I mean, it's it's

1196
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: it's it's needed, so man again, we thank you. You

1197
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: can catch this Showtime Basketball YouTube and the I Heart

1198
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: platform Black Effects. We'll see you all next week. Peace.

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01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: This is all a smoke, A production of The Black

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