WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Denver International Airport 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:16.439 Thinking Sideways. I don't you never know stories of things 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.960 we simply don't know the answer too. Hey everyone, it's 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.320 Thinking Side with the podcast. I'm Devin, joined per usual 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:29.760 by Joe and Steve. Today we're going to talk about 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.320 a mystery. If you follow us on Twitter, you may 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.000 have a little spoilers about this one. Uh. We're going 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:40.160 to talk about the Denver Airport d I A Denver 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.960 International Airport. It's the technical code for it is d 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.199 E N, but everybody calls it d I A. That 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.920 kind of makes sense that in arrival or something like that. No, yeah, 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:55.600 but yeah, yeah, that makes sense Denver International Airport. Now, yeah, exactly. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.560 And before we get too far, this was a suggestion 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.600 by actually a lot of people, and I don't have 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:06.280 everybody's name written down. Everybody suggested different things. Pretty much. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.200 What would happen is somebody would say, oh, somebody, anybody 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.479 suggested the Denver Airport to you, and I would say, oh, 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.880 that it's this thing, and they would say no, it's 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.440 this other thing, and it's like, okay, so I guess 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.000 we'll do a show about it. Yeah, that's about time. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:24.200 And just so everybody knows, I traveled for this episode 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.399 she did. I did feel the research. I went to 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.280 Denver International Airport, she found a hidden door. I did 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:35.040 manage to pick the law, found many many underground passages. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.240 Some some like the sort of cultiv kind of devil 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:41.960 worshiping altars that have blood all of them and stuff. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:45.440 You know, yeah, some guys that had like horns and 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:49.640 weird alien shaped faces, or you ate at McDonald's in 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:55.280 the airport. And but I especially like when we found 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.560 out that those giant crests on that huge room that 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:00.720 had that the crest, I said, and wo when that 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:04.040 had a giant imposed on the top, that was pretty good. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:11.680 That was good research I did. Whichever same thing. Alright, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.040 let's tell these people what's going on with the Denver. 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.359 Let's talk about Denver a little bit. Well not Denver, 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:22.600 but the Denver Airport. The greater Denver area was served 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:27.720 by Stapleton International Airport until in, which I think makes 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.000 d I a one of the newer airports in America. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.360 So it's a lot of research to do. Just so 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:38.120 you know, there's no list I could find on the 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:41.840 internet that was you know, I googled list of airports 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.440 in America by year built, and it when it came 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.680 with nothing, so I didn't look too far into it. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.880 But yeah, I didn't bother looking into it either. I 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.320 can't think. Yeah, I can't really think of one that's 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.920 been built since then, but you know, maybe somewhere. Initially, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.680 the d I A Denver Airport was meant to open 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:07.640 on October twenty ninth, but it turns out the project 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:11.160 wasn't super well planned, and some of the airports that 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.400 were meant to hub out of there changed their requirements. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.720 Oh and also there was this automated baggage system that 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:22.800 was kind of a problem. So yeah, so the project 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.680 was pushed back a few months, then a few months more. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.600 Then a strike happened, so they pushed the project back 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:35.760 to May, not two thousand. In April of that year, 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.480 some reporters were given a sneak peek at this hotly 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:43.160 anticipated automated baggage system, which apparently no one had tested. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.920 I guess because if they had, I'm sure they wouldn't 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.760 have let the media. I think they tested it, but 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:51.960 not with actual baggage. Yeah, I don't know what happened. 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.360 I don't know why. Somebody said, yeah, let's bring the 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:58.840 media in here. But when they did. Reporters well reported 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.000 that close and personal items were strewn under the track 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.160 system and that the parts of the system that were 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.840 meant to transport luggage were actually just dumping the bags 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.240 right off the system entirely. No, No, it's kind of 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.880 like how they handed your baggage now, except for it's 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:17.120 not people, it's machines. Machines will do the same abuse 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.159 of your luggage for a lot shaper, which is great. 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.640 It's a giant conveyor system. But if I remember watching it, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.599 basically there was little actuator arms that would shove the 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:29.560 baggage based on what it figured out where it's supposed 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.800 to go on to convey A or B. Unfortunately they 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:44.679 were when Grandma's luggage and send Olliver clo. So because 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:49.680 of that, the May fifteenth and n open date was 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:54.760 once again pushed back, and finally on February d i 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.960 A was opened, which was eighteen months after the initial 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:03.240 date set. Oh and fun fact, it was about two billion, yes, 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:08.240 with a B dollars over budget. I wonder how much. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.680 I wonder how much the baggage system cost. It was 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.000 actually one of the more expensive parts of the airport. Well, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.479 do you remember Devin, what was the total cost of 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.800 this airport? I remember reading it, but I can't think 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.599 of it off of my mind. But I'd have to 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.760 say at least a third of their cost, at least 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.160 in my mind, and I could be wrong. Was that 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:34.960 stupid baggage system because they kept trying to fix it? Well, yeah, 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:37.720 I think that if you factor in the fact that 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.360 it is what kept pushing the date back, the opening 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.000 date back. I think they estimated that every day they 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:48.000 delayed opening the airport cost them one million dollars. So 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.919 if you factor that into the quote overall cost of 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.160 the automatic baggage system, which you should, it was absolutely 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.680 the most expensive part of the entire project. Yeah. Yeah, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:05:59.920 I mean, you know, I'm part of the course was 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.680 building the tunnels for all the automated, automated stuff to 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:04.520 exist in. And maybe they can retrieve some of the 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.000 sunk costs by clearing the equipment out of the tunnels 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:11.640 and use the tunnels for something else, maybe you know, 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:17.640 secret government installations. Yes, maybe. So there's a whole mess 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:21.120 of things surrounding this place, as we kind of mentioned earlier, 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.000 So we'll just jump in. I just want to start off. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.200 I guess by saying that right off the bat, there 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.160 are a lot of things about the Denver Airport that 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.680 I think, taken alone, are pretty innocuous. You know, there's 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.240 some are there's some other stuff, And if they all existed, 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.640 just one thing at one airport and another weird thing 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.760 at another airport, I would be way more willing to say, yeah, no, 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.200 that's totally I mean, it's a little weird, but it's 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.600 totally innocent. But when you can kind of take it all, 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.760 you take a step back and take it all in 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.800 in this one building, things get a little fun. And 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.000 the nice the thing that you got to point out 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.359 to people is I've been to the Denver Airport. I 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.640 was there, I don't know, ten years ago or something. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.400 I had no idea and I probably saw one of 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.960 the things that we're going to talk about and would 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:14.680 have never gassed that there was so much hubbub surrounding 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:19.120 it all because so many things are innocuous on their own. Yeah, 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.720 I too have been there, and I didn't know anything 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.400 out of the source either, But I didn't actually spend 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.160 a lot of time in the airport, so I spent 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.520 it in the airport bar. I didn't have time I 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.800 didn't have time to go like see that Hugh's mirror 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:34.320 with a creepy Nazi with the ak Yeah, yeah, that 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.080 was fun. Yeah, we're gonna just attack this line item style, 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.000 So we'll just start with the horse. So each of these, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.200 in other words, is a discreet mystery on its own. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.400 Yeah kind of. So what are we gonna work our 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.320 way from the inside out or the outside in or 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.320 what kind of ish We're gonna start with the horse? 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.840 Of course, of course, the horse, the famous Mr. You 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.480 guys have a picture in for of you. It's in 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.400 black and white. I'm sorry it's much less impressive than 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.800 it is color, but hopefully you got a chance to 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.800 see it, and you listeners at home will probably post 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.200 a picture of it. Now. I've seen this photo in color. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:17.560 It's actually a really nice photo. It's awesome. I did. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.480 Did you notice what's behind the bronco Oh, the thunderstorm 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.880 the mushroom cloud. It looks like a mushroom pick does 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:29.800 It's like thunder e too, thunder and lightning. Apocalyptic. That's 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.679 super apocalyptic. This this is one of the first things 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.520 that you will notice about d I A as you 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:40.000 approach from the ground. This dude. He's officially called Blue Mustang. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:46.320 He's also referred um to as Bluesifer or the demon 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:49.760 Bronco by locals. Since you're not looking at the picture, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:52.319 because this is a podcast not a TV show, I'll 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.720 go ahead and just describe this gentleman to you. This 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.840 beast of a gentleman. He is nine thousand pounds statue. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.840 And by the way, if he was actually made of 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.320 like say, bronze or something like that, anyway, I help 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.560 a lot more than nine pounds. Yeah, he's a fairly 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.920 new addition to the weirdness of d a A. He 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:14.719 was commissioned in by um well, I guess we'll get 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:19.320 to that, but it was meant to be art. Are 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.120 pretty impressive piece of skull it is. Yeah, absolutely, it's 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:26.320 a thirty two ft tall blue Mustang rearing up. It's 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:35.719 pretty dang anatomically correct. Yeah, that absurdly anatomically necessary. I 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:40.040 don't know. Ribs show through the skin the way the 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.120 light shines on it. I initially, when I was looking 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.480 at the picture and when I saw it in real life, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:49.360 I thought, oh, there's like weird zombie skin parts of it. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:50.640 But the more I looked at it, the more, I 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.160 realized it's just the way that it's lit. The way 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.120 the light hits it, it gives it some yellowy areas, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.199 which looks like zombie rot to me. But it's not, well, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:03.520 he's it's a fiberglass, right, so I think that the 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:07.240 fiberglass is colored is part of it. So it's not 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:11.320 an even mix, so you get weirdness areas. I think, well, 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.520 he is he is totally blue. I've seen other pictures 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.360 of him. He's okay blue. It's just a weird way 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.800 that the lights. So he's not a zombie horse. No, 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:24.839 his tail and mane are are spiky, and oh yeah, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:27.040 he has red glowing eyes, which I love. I think 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.319 that's awesome they are is not a line kid, genuinely. 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.760 I've seen this with my own eyes, and that is 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.520 the first thing you notice. You just kind of go, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:40.160 there's some red eyes glowing in the distance. There. It's 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.840 on a horse exactly. But now, actually I think that 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.640 the reason for that is it's just aircraft warning lights. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.160 It's not they're not high enough to be on the 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.599 very top. I think it's a nice touch though, I 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:57.240 do too. So the sculpture wasn't installed until two thousand eight. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.320 Why so late, you might ask, Well, it was sculpted 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.679 by a man named Louise Himenez, and he died in 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:10.680 two thousand and six. And you might be wondering, how well, 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.559 just because the nine thousand pounds statue of a double 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.640 horse fell on him and in order in his legs, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.200 I bet you can guess which one. There's not that many, 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.360 but I bet you can guess which nine thousand pound 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:29.280 horse saying which legs. It wasn't the whole horse, it was, 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.600 just which still weighs a lot, I'm sure, But again, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.720 it's fiberglass. Imagine if this thing was made out of 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.720 steel or bronze or something like that. So the sculpture 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.600 was finished by his family and some students he had, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.439 and then directed much later, two years later. I bet 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:47.439 they're the ones who had the rig blowing eyes. Yeah. Maybe, 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.640 But because of that, people kind of saying it's cursed 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:55.040 from the get go. Of course, of course they're saying 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.559 that the horses cursed, or because it's killed the person 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:01.000 who was making it. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty suspicious. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.920 That suspicious behavior for a horsehead. It depends, is this 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.959 a horsehead from the mob. It could be as far 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.320 as we know it could be. Do you know who 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:18.720 financed it? No, the Denver International Airport. Do you know 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:22.720 who finance We're getting ahead of ourselves, all right. Next 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.320 up is the weird shape of the airport. This sorry, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.760 this is dumb. I agree. The airport is made to 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.720 resemble snow capped mountains and reflect the history of Colorado's 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:38.559 native people. And by the airport, you mean the building 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.959 the terminal. Okay, just making sure you're not talking about 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:47.000 the whole surrounding area. Yeah. Sorry. It's also meant to 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.480 reflect Colorado's natives who lived in tps across the Great Plains. 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:54.080 So the roof is actually made of fabric and it's 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:59.400 big white peaks. Well, the roof. Some people say that 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.840 it is meant to resemble a UFO. Doesn't resemble any 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.200 UFO I've ever seen. Well, since UFOs are definitely housed 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.200 below the airport, which we'll get to in a minute. Uh, 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.640 that's what they're made resemble. But I really think it 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.240 just looks like a giant circus tent. I agree. When 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.160 when the first time I saw it, that's what I thought. 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.760 Who decided to do this? I don't know. I also 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:25.079 kind of wonder who, like, Colorado not the most stable 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:29.720 weather state, Denver also not the most stable weather city. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.720 I'm not totally sure who was like, oh, you know, 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:37.480 it's an excellent idea, let's make this out of fabric. Well, okay, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.959 so there's two things. Ones a joke, which is they 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:43.880 have a lot of weed and color. The other is, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.640 and I'm actually gonna bash on this a couple of times, 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:52.040 which is artists perspectives and interpretations that they can pitch 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.920 and sell. And I work in the art industry, I 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:02.360 understand this. But somebody did a fan TASTICX sales job 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.640 saying this is what it abstract means and blah blah blah. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.360 And I'm sure that what they did is they showed 0:14:10.400 --> 0:14:13.040 him a rendering of one or two of the little 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.960 TP tops that their snow capped mountains that they were 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.400 supposed to be, instead of the what is it nine 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.760 or ten or something? I mean, it lose. It doesn't 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.200 look anything like it's supposed to And I'm I would 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.560 be willing to bet dollars to donuts that's how that happened. Well, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.680 the interesting thing is, um gosh, I don't remember when 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.600 I think it was two thousand eight, but I can't 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:41.840 recall exactly. Uh, there was a huge snow storm and 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:44.560 it ripped the open part of the ceiling. And what 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.160 did they do? They just fixed it. Yeah, they weren't. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.040 They didn't say, oh, hey, maybe fabric's a bad idea. 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:55.520 They just quote unquote improved their snow removal systems. It 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:59.160 had two ft of snow on the floor of the airport. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:04.800 It's called They closed it down for like four days. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:06.920 It was like a thirty ft long rip if I 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.960 remember right by the end. You know, of course it 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.640 keeps growing, but it was just it had huge implications 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:16.480 for the air traffic control of America. Yeah, oh yeah, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.360 it's it's a major hub. And the interesting thing is, 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.280 like you know, I have noted this a lot of times, 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:26.720 your your artistic architectural types. We'll design these cool things 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.600 with absolutely no thought to how they can possibly be 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.000 maintained and repaired. How do you how exactly do you 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.080 get up there to clean that roof? You can't exactly 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.320 walk on it, can you. I don't know, I don't 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.920 think so. Yeah, it's just how do you get up 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.560 there to repair it? Well, you know, there's these things 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.440 that are called man lifts that scissor up and reach 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.440 over and there's some yo yo with with the pressure washer. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.000 Maybe I'll bet you that's how they do. Second, as 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.600 they have a crane and they had they had some 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.400 guy in the harness and they just lower room face 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.280 down on a rope like con cruise. That's impossible. It's 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.800 holding a hose in his hand. You never want to 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:16.760 make the crane upper, you're mad because he'll just bump. Yeah, alright, sorry, okay, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:18.800 So anyway, but no, we didn't answer the question though, 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.240 I mean, okay, so are we gonna answer it later? 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.840 Are there actually UFOs underneath? We'll talk about it. Yeah, 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.320 of course, of course. I think it's that's that directly 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:33.280 related to the mountaintop slash t P roof. They were 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:35.760 saying that people were saying that that this reminiscent of UFOs, 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.360 which of course are stored underneath the airport. That's I 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.960 think that I think, correct me if I'm wrong, if 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.240 either of you come across this. But I think that's 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:50.000 because UFOs traditionally are considered as a round saucer. Well 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:56.080 a t P it's base is around saucer, so it's 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.960 a series. It would be considered kind of a series 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.520 of them, or the other way to look at it 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:06.600 is what was that stargate where that ship would land 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.159 on the pyramids? So we're making, you know, points for 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.359 work to land on an anchor on. I mean, this 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.400 is the only thing I can come up with because 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:14.960 I didn't find a whole lot. I didn't find a 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:20.359 whole lot either, and you know, it seems we make 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.920 fun of I think would be the term I would 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.800 use a lot of conspiracy theories, not necessarily because I 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:31.600 want to disregard them, but more because I just can't 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.120 buy into anything that just says offhand, oh yeah, because 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.720 it's because it looks like it looks like UFOs and 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:42.119 then doesn't explain how I couldn't find anything. There's so 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.480 much hot air and handwaving. But when you say, okay, 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:51.400 I'm totally willing to accept that, just give me something 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:55.840 to base it on besides your personal observation and belief. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.400 And I think that's where we are. I think all 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.600 three of us run into is shoose. Yeah. I think 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.720 that this, this one thing in particular, is one of 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.800 those instances where people just thought they'd put a whole 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.640 lot of billage out there and see how how much 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.960 how much act? Yeah, and a lot, because yes, there's 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.200 a lot of things like this, things that are completely 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.320 seemed to be kind of baseless and just based on 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.199 just one person's assertion. That's yeah. So anyway, but I'm 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:27.400 getting ahead of myself. Next up the murals. Admittedly these 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.320 are super weird. Okay, they just are. No, they just 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:35.680 aren't agree they are. Yeah. We uh. We wandered around 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.439 d i A looking definitely not suspicious at all, taking 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.000 all sorts of pictures. So I'm sure I'm on a 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.560 lot of lists at this point are but this one 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.880 in particular, My guide and I spent I would say, 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:51.960 an hour and a half wandering around trying to find them, 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.679 walk past them like twice on just the other side 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.320 of the the hallway that they're in, because you know, 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.960 they always have those like ads and maps and stuff 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.280 like that. So we're just like, where are these things? 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.800 And then we stopped and I took like a million 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.160 pictures and just like kept looking around waiting for people 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.800 to pass the murals. So I didn't have anything that 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:15.439 that's a regular occurrences, I hope, so seem to be 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.320 kind of famous the murals, they are, they're weird. My 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:22.040 guide insisted that they were just meant to quote to 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.880 pick man made environmental destruction and genocide along with humanity 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.440 coming together to heal nature and live in peace. Oh, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.560 you hired a native guide, which is quite awesome, which 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.320 is bunk, and that is actually just a quote from 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.080 the artists, not my guide. But my guide said, yes, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.800 that's pretty much he not so eloquently said those words. 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:43.920 So you think that you think that the artist's words 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.280 in describing as as painting as your bunk or do 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.000 you think that is his thoughts talking about humanity coming 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:50.840 together heal nature and live in peace. Do you think 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.280 that's I think his description of what the murals are 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.720 meant to be about his bunk. Yeah, so you're gonna 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.960 wait till the end on this, thank you. Yeah. In fairness, 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:05.400 there are there two murals which are each two panels each, 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:10.120 and parts of the overall aret are often left out. 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:15.320 The rational wiki on the murals in fact, says that 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.680 the second mural murals, the second half of the murals, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:21.800 which are the quote oft left out ones, are quote 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.000 much happier, which no, they're not. They're not really, I 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:26.920 mean they're a little happier, but they're all still They're 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:31.120 just so weird, all of them, And I guess I'll 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.159 just describe them a little bit. You can find pictures 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:39.879 of these online really really easily. One is called In 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.040 Peace and Harmony with Nature, and the second one is 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.080 called The Children of the World Dream of World Peace. 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.720 The one titled in Peace and Harmony with Nature shows 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:53.480 sad children over the instruction of the environment and extinction 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.040 of life. A huge fire burns behind them, animals are 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:00.000 dead and in glass cases, and oh yeah, there's three 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.440 dead women in coffins at the bottom of the mural. 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.400 I think one of them is even like a little girl. 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:09.320 The pairing of this, the second pain, I guess of it, 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.800 is a bunch of kids in traditional outfit outfits, crowded 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:17.520 joyfully around some kind of rainbow plant thing, with animals 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:21.840 and healthy landscapes behind them. The Children of the World 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:28.200 Dream of World Peace Redundant is the one that lots 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:29.840 of people kind of point to. It's the one that's 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.920 pretty awful. And the first panel is a soldier and 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:36.199 a gas mask. He's often described as a Nazi soldier. 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:45.359 There's no actual because you can literally just he's got 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:47.320 a gun in one hand and a sword in the other. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.400 He's slicing a dove open, and it looks like there's 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:54.439 a concentration camp kind of in the background. The artist 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:57.200 often points out that there are sleeping children in the rubble, 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.720 so it makes it okay, but they actually kind of 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.800 just looked dead, not sleeping. Yeah. I've never figured out 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.359 how that was supposed to be sleeping. Yeah. The second half, 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:11.040 or a second pain of this one is kids from 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.360 countries around the world, and pairing is traditionally signifying tensions. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:17.280 That is, an American kid and a Russian kid or 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:21.520 a Palestinian kid and any really kid carrying weapons wrapped 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.600 in their respective flags, to be broken in half by 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:28.040 a blonde super aaryan looking kid over the crippled body 0:22:28.080 --> 0:22:30.760 of the soldier from the previous pain looks to me 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.680 like he's dead. Yeah. I think he's a statue that's 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:37.359 been not because the feet looked like they're broken and 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.800 locked in one place and the body is down and 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:43.560 another I think it was a statue kind Yeah. So 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:48.280 I think that the quote unquote happier versions of these 0:22:48.359 --> 0:22:51.800 are still really really weird, still have a lot of 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.520 really weird symbolism in them. And I guess really the 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:57.680 big question is, though I I kind of appreciate the 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.639 artistry and I think that I kind of understand what 0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:04.639 artist is trying to do. I just think the Denver 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:08.119 Airport is a real weird place for them and for 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.880 somebody to be just to make that strong of a statement. 0:23:10.960 --> 0:23:16.680 This is actually easy explained by three words publicly funded art. Yeah, 0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:22.080 I can actually explain it in one word, procrastination. I'm 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.240 pretty sure those look like their oil paintings to me, 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:30.200 and I'm pretty sure that's the artist in question. They again, 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:34.280 they said here's by reasoning, and YadA, YadA, YadA, and 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.160 they did a great sales job and everybody said, yes, 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.359 we'll put those up. But I'm really pretty sure that 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:43.160 they got pitched one idea and they could never make 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.720 it happen. But they just happened to have a bunch 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:49.480 of canvases sitting around and either they had already done 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:55.640