Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways. I don't you never know stories of things
Speaker 1: we simply don't know the answer too. Hey everyone, it's
Speaker 1: Thinking Side with the podcast. I'm Devin, joined per usual
Speaker 1: by Joe and Steve. Today we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: a mystery. If you follow us on Twitter, you may
Speaker 1: have a little spoilers about this one. Uh. We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the Denver Airport d I A Denver
Speaker 1: International Airport. It's the technical code for it is d
Speaker 1: E N, but everybody calls it d I A. That
Speaker 1: kind of makes sense that in arrival or something like that. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, that makes sense Denver International Airport. Now, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And before we get too far, this was a suggestion
Speaker 1: by actually a lot of people, and I don't have
Speaker 1: everybody's name written down. Everybody suggested different things. Pretty much.
Speaker 1: What would happen is somebody would say, oh, somebody, anybody
Speaker 1: suggested the Denver Airport to you, and I would say, oh,
Speaker 1: that it's this thing, and they would say no, it's
Speaker 1: this other thing, and it's like, okay, so I guess
Speaker 1: we'll do a show about it. Yeah, that's about time.
Speaker 1: And just so everybody knows, I traveled for this episode
Speaker 1: she did. I did feel the research. I went to
Speaker 1: Denver International Airport, she found a hidden door. I did
Speaker 1: manage to pick the law, found many many underground passages.
Speaker 1: Some some like the sort of cultiv kind of devil
Speaker 1: worshiping altars that have blood all of them and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, some guys that had like horns and
Speaker 1: weird alien shaped faces, or you ate at McDonald's in
Speaker 1: the airport. And but I especially like when we found
Speaker 1: out that those giant crests on that huge room that
Speaker 1: had that the crest, I said, and wo when that
Speaker 1: had a giant imposed on the top, that was pretty good.
Speaker 1: That was good research I did. Whichever same thing. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's tell these people what's going on with the Denver.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Denver a little bit. Well not Denver,
Speaker 1: but the Denver Airport. The greater Denver area was served
Speaker 1: by Stapleton International Airport until in, which I think makes
Speaker 1: d I a one of the newer airports in America.
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of research to do. Just so
Speaker 1: you know, there's no list I could find on the
Speaker 1: internet that was you know, I googled list of airports
Speaker 1: in America by year built, and it when it came
Speaker 1: with nothing, so I didn't look too far into it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I didn't bother looking into it either. I
Speaker 1: can't think. Yeah, I can't really think of one that's
Speaker 1: been built since then, but you know, maybe somewhere. Initially,
Speaker 1: the d I A Denver Airport was meant to open
Speaker 1: on October twenty ninth, but it turns out the project
Speaker 1: wasn't super well planned, and some of the airports that
Speaker 1: were meant to hub out of there changed their requirements.
Speaker 1: Oh and also there was this automated baggage system that
Speaker 1: was kind of a problem. So yeah, so the project
Speaker 1: was pushed back a few months, then a few months more.
Speaker 1: Then a strike happened, so they pushed the project back
Speaker 1: to May, not two thousand. In April of that year,
Speaker 1: some reporters were given a sneak peek at this hotly
Speaker 1: anticipated automated baggage system, which apparently no one had tested.
Speaker 1: I guess because if they had, I'm sure they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have let the media. I think they tested it, but
Speaker 1: not with actual baggage. Yeah, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Somebody said, yeah, let's bring the
Speaker 1: media in here. But when they did. Reporters well reported
Speaker 1: that close and personal items were strewn under the track
Speaker 1: system and that the parts of the system that were
Speaker 1: meant to transport luggage were actually just dumping the bags
Speaker 1: right off the system entirely. No, No, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like how they handed your baggage now, except for it's
Speaker 1: not people, it's machines. Machines will do the same abuse
Speaker 1: of your luggage for a lot shaper, which is great.
Speaker 1: It's a giant conveyor system. But if I remember watching it,
Speaker 1: basically there was little actuator arms that would shove the
Speaker 1: baggage based on what it figured out where it's supposed
Speaker 1: to go on to convey A or B. Unfortunately they
Speaker 1: were when Grandma's luggage and send Olliver clo. So because
Speaker 1: of that, the May fifteenth and n open date was
Speaker 1: once again pushed back, and finally on February d i
Speaker 1: A was opened, which was eighteen months after the initial
Speaker 1: date set. Oh and fun fact, it was about two billion, yes,
Speaker 1: with a B dollars over budget. I wonder how much.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much the baggage system cost. It was
Speaker 1: actually one of the more expensive parts of the airport. Well,
Speaker 1: do you remember Devin, what was the total cost of
Speaker 1: this airport? I remember reading it, but I can't think
Speaker 1: of it off of my mind. But I'd have to
Speaker 1: say at least a third of their cost, at least
Speaker 1: in my mind, and I could be wrong. Was that
Speaker 1: stupid baggage system because they kept trying to fix it? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that if you factor in the fact that
Speaker 1: it is what kept pushing the date back, the opening
Speaker 1: date back. I think they estimated that every day they
Speaker 1: delayed opening the airport cost them one million dollars. So
Speaker 1: if you factor that into the quote overall cost of
Speaker 1: the automatic baggage system, which you should, it was absolutely
Speaker 1: the most expensive part of the entire project. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm part of the course was
Speaker 1: building the tunnels for all the automated, automated stuff to
Speaker 1: exist in. And maybe they can retrieve some of the
Speaker 1: sunk costs by clearing the equipment out of the tunnels
Speaker 1: and use the tunnels for something else, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: secret government installations. Yes, maybe. So there's a whole mess
Speaker 1: of things surrounding this place, as we kind of mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1: So we'll just jump in. I just want to start off.
Speaker 1: I guess by saying that right off the bat, there
Speaker 1: are a lot of things about the Denver Airport that
Speaker 1: I think, taken alone, are pretty innocuous. You know, there's
Speaker 1: some are there's some other stuff, And if they all existed,
Speaker 1: just one thing at one airport and another weird thing
Speaker 1: at another airport, I would be way more willing to say, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's totally I mean, it's a little weird, but it's
Speaker 1: totally innocent. But when you can kind of take it all,
Speaker 1: you take a step back and take it all in
Speaker 1: in this one building, things get a little fun. And
Speaker 1: the nice the thing that you got to point out
Speaker 1: to people is I've been to the Denver Airport. I
Speaker 1: was there, I don't know, ten years ago or something.
Speaker 1: I had no idea and I probably saw one of
Speaker 1: the things that we're going to talk about and would
Speaker 1: have never gassed that there was so much hubbub surrounding
Speaker 1: it all because so many things are innocuous on their own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I too have been there, and I didn't know anything
Speaker 1: out of the source either, But I didn't actually spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time in the airport, so I spent
Speaker 1: it in the airport bar. I didn't have time I
Speaker 1: didn't have time to go like see that Hugh's mirror
Speaker 1: with a creepy Nazi with the ak Yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was fun. Yeah, we're gonna just attack this line item style,
Speaker 1: So we'll just start with the horse. So each of these,
Speaker 1: in other words, is a discreet mystery on its own.
Speaker 1: Yeah kind of. So what are we gonna work our
Speaker 1: way from the inside out or the outside in or
Speaker 1: what kind of ish We're gonna start with the horse?
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, the horse, the famous Mr. You
Speaker 1: guys have a picture in for of you. It's in
Speaker 1: black and white. I'm sorry it's much less impressive than
Speaker 1: it is color, but hopefully you got a chance to
Speaker 1: see it, and you listeners at home will probably post
Speaker 1: a picture of it. Now. I've seen this photo in color.
Speaker 1: It's actually a really nice photo. It's awesome. I did.
Speaker 1: Did you notice what's behind the bronco Oh, the thunderstorm
Speaker 1: the mushroom cloud. It looks like a mushroom pick does
Speaker 1: It's like thunder e too, thunder and lightning. Apocalyptic. That's
Speaker 1: super apocalyptic. This this is one of the first things
Speaker 1: that you will notice about d I A as you
Speaker 1: approach from the ground. This dude. He's officially called Blue Mustang.
Speaker 1: He's also referred um to as Bluesifer or the demon
Speaker 1: Bronco by locals. Since you're not looking at the picture,
Speaker 1: because this is a podcast not a TV show, I'll
Speaker 1: go ahead and just describe this gentleman to you. This
Speaker 1: beast of a gentleman. He is nine thousand pounds statue.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if he was actually made of
Speaker 1: like say, bronze or something like that, anyway, I help
Speaker 1: a lot more than nine pounds. Yeah, he's a fairly
Speaker 1: new addition to the weirdness of d a A. He
Speaker 1: was commissioned in by um well, I guess we'll get
Speaker 1: to that, but it was meant to be art. Are
Speaker 1: pretty impressive piece of skull it is. Yeah, absolutely, it's
Speaker 1: a thirty two ft tall blue Mustang rearing up. It's
Speaker 1: pretty dang anatomically correct. Yeah, that absurdly anatomically necessary. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Ribs show through the skin the way the
Speaker 1: light shines on it. I initially, when I was looking
Speaker 1: at the picture and when I saw it in real life,
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, there's like weird zombie skin parts of it.
Speaker 1: But the more I looked at it, the more, I
Speaker 1: realized it's just the way that it's lit. The way
Speaker 1: the light hits it, it gives it some yellowy areas,
Speaker 1: which looks like zombie rot to me. But it's not, well,
Speaker 1: he's it's a fiberglass, right, so I think that the
Speaker 1: fiberglass is colored is part of it. So it's not
Speaker 1: an even mix, so you get weirdness areas. I think, well,
Speaker 1: he is he is totally blue. I've seen other pictures
Speaker 1: of him. He's okay blue. It's just a weird way
Speaker 1: that the lights. So he's not a zombie horse. No,
Speaker 1: his tail and mane are are spiky, and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he has red glowing eyes, which I love. I think
Speaker 1: that's awesome they are is not a line kid, genuinely.
Speaker 1: I've seen this with my own eyes, and that is
Speaker 1: the first thing you notice. You just kind of go,
Speaker 1: there's some red eyes glowing in the distance. There. It's
Speaker 1: on a horse exactly. But now, actually I think that
Speaker 1: the reason for that is it's just aircraft warning lights.
Speaker 1: It's not they're not high enough to be on the
Speaker 1: very top. I think it's a nice touch though, I
Speaker 1: do too. So the sculpture wasn't installed until two thousand eight.
Speaker 1: Why so late, you might ask, Well, it was sculpted
Speaker 1: by a man named Louise Himenez, and he died in
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. And you might be wondering, how well,
Speaker 1: just because the nine thousand pounds statue of a double
Speaker 1: horse fell on him and in order in his legs,
Speaker 1: I bet you can guess which one. There's not that many,
Speaker 1: but I bet you can guess which nine thousand pound
Speaker 1: horse saying which legs. It wasn't the whole horse, it was,
Speaker 1: just which still weighs a lot, I'm sure, But again,
Speaker 1: it's fiberglass. Imagine if this thing was made out of
Speaker 1: steel or bronze or something like that. So the sculpture
Speaker 1: was finished by his family and some students he had,
Speaker 1: and then directed much later, two years later. I bet
Speaker 1: they're the ones who had the rig blowing eyes. Yeah. Maybe,
Speaker 1: But because of that, people kind of saying it's cursed
Speaker 1: from the get go. Of course, of course they're saying
Speaker 1: that the horses cursed, or because it's killed the person
Speaker 1: who was making it. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty suspicious.
Speaker 1: That suspicious behavior for a horsehead. It depends, is this
Speaker 1: a horsehead from the mob. It could be as far
Speaker 1: as we know it could be. Do you know who
Speaker 1: financed it? No, the Denver International Airport. Do you know
Speaker 1: who finance We're getting ahead of ourselves, all right. Next
Speaker 1: up is the weird shape of the airport. This sorry,
Speaker 1: this is dumb. I agree. The airport is made to
Speaker 1: resemble snow capped mountains and reflect the history of Colorado's
Speaker 1: native people. And by the airport, you mean the building
Speaker 1: the terminal. Okay, just making sure you're not talking about
Speaker 1: the whole surrounding area. Yeah. Sorry. It's also meant to
Speaker 1: reflect Colorado's natives who lived in tps across the Great Plains.
Speaker 1: So the roof is actually made of fabric and it's
Speaker 1: big white peaks. Well, the roof. Some people say that
Speaker 1: it is meant to resemble a UFO. Doesn't resemble any
Speaker 1: UFO I've ever seen. Well, since UFOs are definitely housed
Speaker 1: below the airport, which we'll get to in a minute. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's what they're made resemble. But I really think it
Speaker 1: just looks like a giant circus tent. I agree. When
Speaker 1: when the first time I saw it, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: Who decided to do this? I don't know. I also
Speaker 1: kind of wonder who, like, Colorado not the most stable
Speaker 1: weather state, Denver also not the most stable weather city.
Speaker 1: I'm not totally sure who was like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's an excellent idea, let's make this out of fabric. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: so there's two things. Ones a joke, which is they
Speaker 1: have a lot of weed and color. The other is,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually gonna bash on this a couple of times,
Speaker 1: which is artists perspectives and interpretations that they can pitch
Speaker 1: and sell. And I work in the art industry, I
Speaker 1: understand this. But somebody did a fan TASTICX sales job
Speaker 1: saying this is what it abstract means and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that what they did is they showed
Speaker 1: him a rendering of one or two of the little
Speaker 1: TP tops that their snow capped mountains that they were
Speaker 1: supposed to be, instead of the what is it nine
Speaker 1: or ten or something? I mean, it lose. It doesn't
Speaker 1: look anything like it's supposed to And I'm I would
Speaker 1: be willing to bet dollars to donuts that's how that happened. Well,
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is, um gosh, I don't remember when
Speaker 1: I think it was two thousand eight, but I can't
Speaker 1: recall exactly. Uh, there was a huge snow storm and
Speaker 1: it ripped the open part of the ceiling. And what
Speaker 1: did they do? They just fixed it. Yeah, they weren't.
Speaker 1: They didn't say, oh, hey, maybe fabric's a bad idea.
Speaker 1: They just quote unquote improved their snow removal systems. It
Speaker 1: had two ft of snow on the floor of the airport.
Speaker 1: It's called They closed it down for like four days.
Speaker 1: It was like a thirty ft long rip if I
Speaker 1: remember right by the end. You know, of course it
Speaker 1: keeps growing, but it was just it had huge implications
Speaker 1: for the air traffic control of America. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a major hub. And the interesting thing is,
Speaker 1: like you know, I have noted this a lot of times,
Speaker 1: your your artistic architectural types. We'll design these cool things
Speaker 1: with absolutely no thought to how they can possibly be
Speaker 1: maintained and repaired. How do you how exactly do you
Speaker 1: get up there to clean that roof? You can't exactly
Speaker 1: walk on it, can you. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, it's just how do you get up
Speaker 1: there to repair it? Well, you know, there's these things
Speaker 1: that are called man lifts that scissor up and reach
Speaker 1: over and there's some yo yo with with the pressure washer.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll bet you that's how they do. Second, as
Speaker 1: they have a crane and they had they had some
Speaker 1: guy in the harness and they just lower room face
Speaker 1: down on a rope like con cruise. That's impossible. It's
Speaker 1: holding a hose in his hand. You never want to
Speaker 1: make the crane upper, you're mad because he'll just bump. Yeah, alright, sorry, okay,
Speaker 1: So anyway, but no, we didn't answer the question though,
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so are we gonna answer it later?
Speaker 1: Are there actually UFOs underneath? We'll talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, of course. I think it's that's that directly
Speaker 1: related to the mountaintop slash t P roof. They were
Speaker 1: saying that people were saying that that this reminiscent of UFOs,
Speaker 1: which of course are stored underneath the airport. That's I
Speaker 1: think that I think, correct me if I'm wrong, if
Speaker 1: either of you come across this. But I think that's
Speaker 1: because UFOs traditionally are considered as a round saucer. Well
Speaker 1: a t P it's base is around saucer, so it's
Speaker 1: a series. It would be considered kind of a series
Speaker 1: of them, or the other way to look at it
Speaker 1: is what was that stargate where that ship would land
Speaker 1: on the pyramids? So we're making, you know, points for
Speaker 1: work to land on an anchor on. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the only thing I can come up with because
Speaker 1: I didn't find a whole lot. I didn't find a
Speaker 1: whole lot either, and you know, it seems we make
Speaker 1: fun of I think would be the term I would
Speaker 1: use a lot of conspiracy theories, not necessarily because I
Speaker 1: want to disregard them, but more because I just can't
Speaker 1: buy into anything that just says offhand, oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's because it looks like it looks like UFOs and
Speaker 1: then doesn't explain how I couldn't find anything. There's so
Speaker 1: much hot air and handwaving. But when you say, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm totally willing to accept that, just give me something
Speaker 1: to base it on besides your personal observation and belief.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where we are. I think all
Speaker 1: three of us run into is shoose. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: that this, this one thing in particular, is one of
Speaker 1: those instances where people just thought they'd put a whole
Speaker 1: lot of billage out there and see how how much
Speaker 1: how much act? Yeah, and a lot, because yes, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things like this, things that are completely
Speaker 1: seemed to be kind of baseless and just based on
Speaker 1: just one person's assertion. That's yeah. So anyway, but I'm
Speaker 1: getting ahead of myself. Next up the murals. Admittedly these
Speaker 1: are super weird. Okay, they just are. No, they just
Speaker 1: aren't agree they are. Yeah. We uh. We wandered around
Speaker 1: d i A looking definitely not suspicious at all, taking
Speaker 1: all sorts of pictures. So I'm sure I'm on a
Speaker 1: lot of lists at this point are but this one
Speaker 1: in particular, My guide and I spent I would say,
Speaker 1: an hour and a half wandering around trying to find them,
Speaker 1: walk past them like twice on just the other side
Speaker 1: of the the hallway that they're in, because you know,
Speaker 1: they always have those like ads and maps and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So we're just like, where are these things?
Speaker 1: And then we stopped and I took like a million
Speaker 1: pictures and just like kept looking around waiting for people
Speaker 1: to pass the murals. So I didn't have anything that
Speaker 1: that's a regular occurrences, I hope, so seem to be
Speaker 1: kind of famous the murals, they are, they're weird. My
Speaker 1: guide insisted that they were just meant to quote to
Speaker 1: pick man made environmental destruction and genocide along with humanity
Speaker 1: coming together to heal nature and live in peace. Oh,
Speaker 1: you hired a native guide, which is quite awesome, which
Speaker 1: is bunk, and that is actually just a quote from
Speaker 1: the artists, not my guide. But my guide said, yes,
Speaker 1: that's pretty much he not so eloquently said those words.
Speaker 1: So you think that you think that the artist's words
Speaker 1: in describing as as painting as your bunk or do
Speaker 1: you think that is his thoughts talking about humanity coming
Speaker 1: together heal nature and live in peace. Do you think
Speaker 1: that's I think his description of what the murals are
Speaker 1: meant to be about his bunk. Yeah, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: wait till the end on this, thank you. Yeah. In fairness,
Speaker 1: there are there two murals which are each two panels each,
Speaker 1: and parts of the overall aret are often left out.
Speaker 1: The rational wiki on the murals in fact, says that
Speaker 1: the second mural murals, the second half of the murals,
Speaker 1: which are the quote oft left out ones, are quote
Speaker 1: much happier, which no, they're not. They're not really, I
Speaker 1: mean they're a little happier, but they're all still They're
Speaker 1: just so weird, all of them, And I guess I'll
Speaker 1: just describe them a little bit. You can find pictures
Speaker 1: of these online really really easily. One is called In
Speaker 1: Peace and Harmony with Nature, and the second one is
Speaker 1: called The Children of the World Dream of World Peace.
Speaker 1: The one titled in Peace and Harmony with Nature shows
Speaker 1: sad children over the instruction of the environment and extinction
Speaker 1: of life. A huge fire burns behind them, animals are
Speaker 1: dead and in glass cases, and oh yeah, there's three
Speaker 1: dead women in coffins at the bottom of the mural.
Speaker 1: I think one of them is even like a little girl.
Speaker 1: The pairing of this, the second pain, I guess of it,
Speaker 1: is a bunch of kids in traditional outfit outfits, crowded
Speaker 1: joyfully around some kind of rainbow plant thing, with animals
Speaker 1: and healthy landscapes behind them. The Children of the World
Speaker 1: Dream of World Peace Redundant is the one that lots
Speaker 1: of people kind of point to. It's the one that's
Speaker 1: pretty awful. And the first panel is a soldier and
Speaker 1: a gas mask. He's often described as a Nazi soldier.
Speaker 1: There's no actual because you can literally just he's got
Speaker 1: a gun in one hand and a sword in the other.
Speaker 1: He's slicing a dove open, and it looks like there's
Speaker 1: a concentration camp kind of in the background. The artist
Speaker 1: often points out that there are sleeping children in the rubble,
Speaker 1: so it makes it okay, but they actually kind of
Speaker 1: just looked dead, not sleeping. Yeah. I've never figured out
Speaker 1: how that was supposed to be sleeping. Yeah. The second half,
Speaker 1: or a second pain of this one is kids from
Speaker 1: countries around the world, and pairing is traditionally signifying tensions.
Speaker 1: That is, an American kid and a Russian kid or
Speaker 1: a Palestinian kid and any really kid carrying weapons wrapped
Speaker 1: in their respective flags, to be broken in half by
Speaker 1: a blonde super aaryan looking kid over the crippled body
Speaker 1: of the soldier from the previous pain looks to me
Speaker 1: like he's dead. Yeah. I think he's a statue that's
Speaker 1: been not because the feet looked like they're broken and
Speaker 1: locked in one place and the body is down and
Speaker 1: another I think it was a statue kind Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I think that the quote unquote happier versions of these
Speaker 1: are still really really weird, still have a lot of
Speaker 1: really weird symbolism in them. And I guess really the
Speaker 1: big question is, though I I kind of appreciate the
Speaker 1: artistry and I think that I kind of understand what
Speaker 1: artist is trying to do. I just think the Denver
Speaker 1: Airport is a real weird place for them and for
Speaker 1: somebody to be just to make that strong of a statement.
Speaker 1: This is actually easy explained by three words publicly funded art. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can actually explain it in one word, procrastination. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure those look like their oil paintings to me,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure that's the artist in question. They again,
Speaker 1: they said here's by reasoning, and YadA, YadA, YadA, and
Speaker 1: they did a great sales job and everybody said, yes,
Speaker 1: we'll put those up. But I'm really pretty sure that
Speaker 1: they got pitched one idea and they could never make
Speaker 1: it happen. But they just happened to have a bunch
Speaker 1: of canvases sitting around and either they had already done
Speaker 1: those artworks that were just completely hair brained, or oh crap,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start. I'm just gonna start painting something
Speaker 1: and sees what up and say it comes out super
Speaker 1: stuper dark, and I don't have time to fix this.
Speaker 1: This is for children in world peace. I really, I've
Speaker 1: read the artist description. Don't buy any now, not really,
Speaker 1: but I think actually, I think really the culprit here
Speaker 1: is the baggage system. There was there was only like
Speaker 1: about fifty bucks left over in the budget for our art,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, they had to get some graffiti artists
Speaker 1: off the street and say it's got to look like
Speaker 1: you're not quite like graffiti, can you do something? And
Speaker 1: you know that's so that's what they got. But that's
Speaker 1: not the only bit of weird, aren't there? Oh? I
Speaker 1: see Steve's notebook out. Yes, as always do you guys
Speaker 1: remember in anybody who's been through the baggage claim area
Speaker 1: will know this. The gargoyles. Yeah, the weirdest thing. I
Speaker 1: was about to use a different words, the weirdest thing ever,
Speaker 1: especially to get off a flight at like hey midnight,
Speaker 1: after having been moving all day and walking to baggage
Speaker 1: claim and having that be the very first thing you
Speaker 1: really see of Denver Airport. For anybody who hasn't been
Speaker 1: to Denver Airport, there are two gargoyles in the baggage
Speaker 1: claim area and it is kind of the old school
Speaker 1: sam snide luggage and then a gargoyle is sticking out
Speaker 1: of it in their goofy weird creepy looking because they're gargoyles,
Speaker 1: but people also all kinds of things are attributed to
Speaker 1: why those gargoyles are there. I did a little research. Awesome,
Speaker 1: I can tell you. Also, I guess to add to
Speaker 1: it their uplet anybody who knows anything about lighting, it's
Speaker 1: really creepy, you know. They really they really should have
Speaker 1: made them animatronics. So they late at night and the
Speaker 1: lights are a little dim and there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Suddenly hear this noise and you look up
Speaker 1: and that thing it's starting to like it's like all
Speaker 1: they had to do is put weird moving red eyes. Well,
Speaker 1: well they blew the eye budget on the horse. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But imagine if you're down there and like you're just
Speaker 1: sort of there's only a few people there. To start,
Speaker 1: some move his wings a little bit and its head
Speaker 1: swivels around and it looks it turns its beady red
Speaker 1: eyes on you. What would you do? I would run, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would run fast. I would figure was it animatronic
Speaker 1: and be eaten a line by the real gargoyle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the way back to your thing. Well, no, so, gargoyles,
Speaker 1: anybody who's looked at architectural history have been around forever,
Speaker 1: and gargoyles were initially they're they're a symbol of protection
Speaker 1: for buildings and people. So I put on the outside.
Speaker 1: Don't they have to be on the outside. No, No,
Speaker 1: they're on the outside because gargoyles were on the outside
Speaker 1: because they were used as a a drainage system for
Speaker 1: the roofs. Yeah, they were a dector voice. So you've
Speaker 1: got all the drainage coming off the roof and it
Speaker 1: hits a pipe and it shoots way out over the building.
Speaker 1: And the name gargoyle comes from the sound that water
Speaker 1: makes when it runs through that mouth opening pipe. Of
Speaker 1: it's kind of sounds like it. But gargoyles are a
Speaker 1: symbol of protection. There's nothing nefarious or disturbing. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you ever watched the well I know Joe didn't,
Speaker 1: but you might have watched that cartoon gargoyles back in
Speaker 1: the late nineties early two thousand's. Do you remember that. Okay, See,
Speaker 1: they were protectors, they were good gargoyles. Well, they're just
Speaker 1: like puzzoozuate, gargoyle. I put you through college, and this
Speaker 1: is how you repaying me. Butoyles are a thing of protection,
Speaker 1: so that I think that's where that came from. I
Speaker 1: think that actually they put them in the baggage claim
Speaker 1: area so that that would sort of intimidate people and
Speaker 1: people wouldn't try to steal other people's baggage. There's another
Speaker 1: thing that I that was in the baggage claim just
Speaker 1: as the side note that I've never seen anywhere else.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it exists other places, but they're oversized baggage claim.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys noticed this when you
Speaker 1: went through Denver. They're really just like big vertical stalls
Speaker 1: that go around on a conveyor belt in a horizontal manner.
Speaker 1: So it's like you could literally like step in one
Speaker 1: of those and they're actually perfectly human sized and it
Speaker 1: just goes around. And my first thought was really, just
Speaker 1: like it kind of looks like a human vending machine,
Speaker 1: like it did? I mean it just they were perfectly
Speaker 1: human sized. It was very odd you didn't did not
Speaker 1: She did not want to be any human vending machine.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you, but I guess speaking of art.
Speaker 1: There's some it's kind of art. This next thing, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the markings on the ground. Yes, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: What is AU A G mean? This is golden silver?
Speaker 1: No A AU and then a G right two separate right,
Speaker 1: Golden silver too, minerals traditionally found in Colorado. Source of
Speaker 1: the state's history. AU stands for golden A G stands
Speaker 1: for silver. Right. What if I told you that it
Speaker 1: also stands for Australia antigen a U A G, which
Speaker 1: is a webinized strain of heptitis B. Also also that
Speaker 1: it's engraved or inlaid in the floor at the Denver Airport.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying that, like it's like a Hepatitis B center,
Speaker 1: weaponized hepatitis B. Yeah. Did you guys also know that
Speaker 1: the person who discovered this weaponized h hepatitis B he funded,
Speaker 1: He was the sponsor of the Denver Airport. Did you
Speaker 1: know that? Do you know that, Steve? Did you know that?
Speaker 1: I'm okay, well that's not true, none of that's true.
Speaker 1: But you know we got everywhere, well except for the
Speaker 1: golden silver, but that stuff is true. Yeah, Well, the
Speaker 1: good news is the actual marker for the strain of
Speaker 1: hepatitis B is actually HBS A G, not a U
Speaker 1: A G. And I think Steve did some research on this,
Speaker 1: but it's an antigen which I had always understood and
Speaker 1: Steve corroborated, is actually what your body produces to fight
Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, I'm not totally Yeah, actually a lot
Speaker 1: more benevolent than these people make it sound. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: oh hey. Also the man in question who discovered the
Speaker 1: strain of hepatitis B. Oh, he happens to be Nobel
Speaker 1: Laureate Baruk Samuel Bloomberg, who has literally no link whatsoever
Speaker 1: to Denver airports. So so you'd like to he'd like
Speaker 1: you to think he was also not wildly rich. He
Speaker 1: certainly wasn't wildly rich enough to sponsor an entire airport
Speaker 1: to himself. I usually lead that stuff to the city
Speaker 1: in question, and maybe the airlines. Yeah. Yeah. So Also
Speaker 1: that brick with a U A G on it. Guess
Speaker 1: guess what's right over it? They're surrounding it. Yeah, it's no,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a mining cart right over it. And
Speaker 1: then it's it's you know, capital a lowercase you. And
Speaker 1: then lots of spaces and then a capital a capital
Speaker 1: lowercase G. And there's lots of other bricks all around it.
Speaker 1: Mostly tiles, I guess, yeah, tiles its floor, right, big, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're big stones. Yeah, so they are tiles. You're right,
Speaker 1: that's probably a better word for them. But most of
Speaker 1: them are Native American symbols or words or things like that.
Speaker 1: You will see other places people talking about the alien
Speaker 1: writing that's written the floor. Those are literally all Indian
Speaker 1: words there. They just are Native American words. Um, okay.
Speaker 1: But then people, but then the question arises, but why
Speaker 1: why is this one right in front of the mural
Speaker 1: with the death Nazi on it? Well, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not even close. It's not even like adjacent. They're saying,
Speaker 1: this is in front of the mural that's got the
Speaker 1: guy with the sword. Okay, they've clearly never been there.
Speaker 1: I think that they need to call in that guy
Speaker 1: from you know, the damn Brown Book, Da Vinci Code. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he can figure this out in a heartbeat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Been taking like twelve hours, he'd have
Speaker 1: a crazy chase through the tunnels and yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what else? What? What? What other fun do we have here.
Speaker 1: Next thing is we're gonna talk about the dedication marker next,
Speaker 1: also often referred to as the capstone. You know, that
Speaker 1: thing just looks to me like something to trip over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty big. It's I guess, to be fair, it's
Speaker 1: a hard thing to ignore. It's what lights people's hair on. Fine,
Speaker 1: it sure does. And I think first, yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a sundial a little bit. The cap stone,
Speaker 1: it's a caps on and then it has a big
Speaker 1: kind of rod sticking out of it a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's not a circle. The capstone is well like a keystone.
Speaker 1: It's like, um, it actually looks like the big heavy
Speaker 1: thing on top of a tomb, the big heavy stone
Speaker 1: on top of a two. Yeah. It just makes you
Speaker 1: think like a big headstone. Yeah. Well so it's it
Speaker 1: not only informs the public of the details of the
Speaker 1: projects kind of, but also it marks the spot of
Speaker 1: a time capsule that's meant to be opened in UM
Speaker 1: two thousand and The contents of the capsule include lots
Speaker 1: of things, you know, the kind of things you would
Speaker 1: put in a time capsule. Photos of notable places in
Speaker 1: Denver around the nine nineties, memorabilia from the old Denver Airport,
Speaker 1: Colorado Flags newspapers a credit card for some reason, because
Speaker 1: those were awesome. Yeah, I suppose you're going to be
Speaker 1: gone by the time. It's just one credit card. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know that's card has not
Speaker 1: been reported lost or stolen yet yet. It also includes
Speaker 1: some programs from all of the New World Airport Commission's events.
Speaker 1: This is just one exciting time. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: open this one up. Yeah. Well, actually, you may be
Speaker 1: wondering you at home. There may have been some words
Speaker 1: in there that kind of piqued your interest, like the
Speaker 1: New World Airport Commission. I thought you were talking about
Speaker 1: credit card, but you may be wondering what that is then.
Speaker 1: To be honest, um me too. I couldn't find anything
Speaker 1: that wasn't outright conspiracy theories on the organization online, and
Speaker 1: I know Steve is giving me the look, which means
Speaker 1: he found some stuff, which is fine. You know, when
Speaker 1: you google New World Airport Commission, it either comes up
Speaker 1: with Denver Airport or oh my god, these people are
Speaker 1: going to take over the population to two million. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not the New World Order, but just close to
Speaker 1: the New World Order. Airport. So this capstone also has
Speaker 1: names of the mayor, governor, and Secretary of Transportation at
Speaker 1: the time on it. The notice of the time capsule
Speaker 1: then also the massonic Freemason symbol. Also engraved on it
Speaker 1: are quote the most Worshipful Prince Hall, Grand Lodge F
Speaker 1: and a M of Colorado and jurisdiction, and then quote
Speaker 1: the most Worshipful Grand Lodge of a D and a
Speaker 1: M of Colorado. It also then below says that the
Speaker 1: airport was funded by the New World Airport or yeah,
Speaker 1: the New World Airport Commission. And again it doesn't. It's
Speaker 1: it's not an official thing, and that lights a lot
Speaker 1: of people on fire. Is is the term I guess
Speaker 1: we're using right now. But listed under it are contributors
Speaker 1: which are an architecture firm, a metal company and Aaron
Speaker 1: Aeronautics company. And even if before I let Steve because
Speaker 1: he's like trauma at the bit right now, before I
Speaker 1: let him go out, even if these are just three
Speaker 1: innocent sponsors who formed a commission called the New World
Speaker 1: Airport Commission, come on, guys, like pick a pick a
Speaker 1: better name, like pick a less suspicious name, though terrible,
Speaker 1: like why would you why would that be the thing
Speaker 1: that you pick. But the thing is is like that
Speaker 1: the whole new World Order thing hadn't really blossomed that much.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like this was like the New
Speaker 1: World Order didn't come into being until the speech was
Speaker 1: given by George W. George H. W. Bush, the first Bush.
Speaker 1: And what I think that the very early nineties, after
Speaker 1: the fall of the Soviet Union, we were we were
Speaker 1: looking at a whole different world order because of Soviets
Speaker 1: were gone. And when did the airport open? It opened
Speaker 1: in this is after that speech. But if but the
Speaker 1: construction on the airport began before that speech, right, But
Speaker 1: they weren't. It wasn't like a registered LLC or anything.
Speaker 1: That was just it was a bunch of business guys
Speaker 1: who got together and said, we're going to help sponsor this.
Speaker 1: This is the new for the area World airport exactly.
Speaker 1: It's not a new world it's new world airport because
Speaker 1: it's an international airport exactly. And the thing about it
Speaker 1: is is like, uh, he gives his speech and he
Speaker 1: talks about, well, you know, it's a new world order
Speaker 1: because Gully, it's not a bipolar world and and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. The Cold War is over, And of course
Speaker 1: the conspiracy in that case is in the paranoids go
Speaker 1: nuts with this and start running with it. But do
Speaker 1: you really expect a bunch of middle aged businessmen to
Speaker 1: be up on that stuff and to be paying attention
Speaker 1: of that stuff. No, No, that's true. It just seems
Speaker 1: like maybe saying like new International Airport or the new
Speaker 1: Denver International Airport Mission, something way more description descriptive instead
Speaker 1: of I got this cool, Yeah, the new World Airport Commissions. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense if you if you look
Speaker 1: at it without running it together and adding you know,
Speaker 1: all these other things to the name the new World Airport,
Speaker 1: it makes sense makes sense locally kind of How would
Speaker 1: have just called it the new Friggan Airport or International
Speaker 1: or about time we got a new airport commission? Yeah,
Speaker 1: their old airports. It was not great. No, it was
Speaker 1: really bad. You know a lot of people claim that
Speaker 1: it wasn't nearly that bad at all, and so that's
Speaker 1: part of that fed in the conspiracy theories they replaced
Speaker 1: it was. It was really really it was. I just
Speaker 1: want to go ahead and go on record and say
Speaker 1: it was a noise complaints in the bad snowstorms I
Speaker 1: don't remember how many airports runways it had, but they
Speaker 1: could operate about what they were supposed to run. And
Speaker 1: of course Denver's you know, usually has bad, bad weather
Speaker 1: in the winter time. It's high up, it's snowy. Yet
Speaker 1: well they so actually so this was a fun fact.
Speaker 1: They layout of the runways was such that they were
Speaker 1: too close together, so an implement whether they couldn't they
Speaker 1: could only use one of those two. But then also
Speaker 1: the runways intersected each other at multiple points, so you
Speaker 1: couldn't have a airplane taking off and landing at the
Speaker 1: same time. It was basically just like a cross, like
Speaker 1: a half Yeah. And then they just couldn't use like
Speaker 1: most of them because the weather was bad. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: that kind of continue to use it. They just wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been a major hub as they are now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well especially in the wintertime. But the thing that I
Speaker 1: found that I was really I got really excited about
Speaker 1: at first is so we've got the Masons are sponsoring
Speaker 1: part of this, and they're on that that dedication, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about the New World Order and how it's
Speaker 1: trying to reduce the population to two billion. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I managed to somehow, I believe figure out where that
Speaker 1: name number came from. I like that this is where
Speaker 1: we're taking this on. This is in the middle of
Speaker 1: an episode about the Denver Airport. We're gonna myth bust
Speaker 1: the two billion frosted. Yeah, So I I gotta thank
Speaker 1: the guys at Stuff. You should know because they did
Speaker 1: an episode on population control and that's where I suddenly
Speaker 1: made the links. Though they never actually laid it out.
Speaker 1: I figured it out. So there's a guy by the
Speaker 1: name of Thomas Robert Malthus and he uh, he wrote
Speaker 1: of what he called the Malthusian catastrophe, which was overpopulation
Speaker 1: would lead to famine and death. And this is back
Speaker 1: in the eighteen hundreds he writes this. I think it
Speaker 1: was the late eighteen hundreds is when he he did
Speaker 1: his research for population control. You jump forward to and
Speaker 1: I know Joe is looking at because he knows what's coming.
Speaker 1: It's Paul Airlick rights the population bomb, which is everybody
Speaker 1: calls an alarmous piece of work because he the first
Speaker 1: thing he starts out with saying is that we're all
Speaker 1: gonna die, essentially saying that the world can't sustain us.
Speaker 1: And two billion is the max number, and we need
Speaker 1: to control bursts and we need to change all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But somehow, I mean today most people look at his
Speaker 1: work and say he's wrong. His math was wrong. He
Speaker 1: and mouths we're wrong. But somehow that two billion got
Speaker 1: pulled in with the New World Order, and that number
Speaker 1: always gets drug along when you're talking about the New
Speaker 1: World Order stuff. It's all this human carrying capacity. That's
Speaker 1: where it comes from. Yeah, it's funny think about air
Speaker 1: like is that he may had a lot of predictions,
Speaker 1: not just about overpopulation. I don't know every single one
Speaker 1: of them was wrong. Um one. He was the John
Speaker 1: Teeter of Yeah. I mean, so his not not busy,
Speaker 1: and it's still very popular. I mean there's still people
Speaker 1: today protecting all sorts of dire out comes, at least
Speaker 1: in the days of mouthuse is you know, the original days,
Speaker 1: And I mean famine was not that uncommon back in
Speaker 1: his day, So he can be forgiven, I suppose. But
Speaker 1: some of the people that are still jumping on board
Speaker 1: some of the bandwagons. So the things like oh my god,
Speaker 1: peak oil, now we're not running short anytime soon, things
Speaker 1: like that, there's plenty of food and population and the
Speaker 1: two billion number. I the thing that the reason I
Speaker 1: have a problem with the two billion number and relating
Speaker 1: it to the New World Order is the New World Order?
Speaker 1: Are these people who are behind it? They are They're
Speaker 1: part of our elite. They're part of this probably extremely
Speaker 1: rich capital to lead get well, reducing the population to
Speaker 1: two billion people really doesn't make them any money, I
Speaker 1: don't think. And that's why the paranoia over you know,
Speaker 1: this mass reduction in population is ludicrous because hey, you know,
Speaker 1: we're really going to like cause our economies to shrink
Speaker 1: and cus us all to cause us all to get poorer.
Speaker 1: Are we really going to do this? Well? I think
Speaker 1: that people look at it is is if that top
Speaker 1: echelon of people, these these rich guys that are at
Speaker 1: the top and in control, they if they if the
Speaker 1: New World Order goes into effect, and we I don't
Speaker 1: know how this happens, but suddenly the population is cut
Speaker 1: to two billion. Now their royalty, so now they get
Speaker 1: to make that royalty lineage. So it's not making money
Speaker 1: in a capitalist sense. They're just they're top dogs and
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna sit on the pile of cash and
Speaker 1: all their descendants are gonna sit there and we're way
Speaker 1: off topic here, but but that's what I found and
Speaker 1: I had to bring it up. Is that's where this
Speaker 1: whole new World Order billion people thing comes from. As
Speaker 1: best I can tell, this is the first time I've
Speaker 1: ever been able to put two and two together on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've it's nobody really knows what the magic number is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Earth could support like tens
Speaker 1: of billions more people, whether we should or not. You know, well,
Speaker 1: you know why two billion is suspicious, right, because that's
Speaker 1: exactly how over budget they went on this project. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, So that explains everything. That explains I mean
Speaker 1: they were they were like they were like looking at
Speaker 1: this and thinking, oh my god, you know that we're
Speaker 1: not gonna go over budget at all. What can we do?
Speaker 1: I have an automated luggage system, and let's do something else.
Speaker 1: But you're going to talk about that later. We're gonna
Speaker 1: get some weird paintings, there was somebody. Yeah, the weird
Speaker 1: paint I told you. I already proved they only paid
Speaker 1: fifty bucks for those paintings. Next up is the layout
Speaker 1: of the runways, and all I have to say about
Speaker 1: that is calm down, you guys, it really doesn't look
Speaker 1: that much like a swastica. Just calm down. Next, draw
Speaker 1: lines on the airport and then remove the photo of
Speaker 1: the airport and the runways don't look like a swastica. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: calm down. Next up underground bunkers and tunnels. Okay, So
Speaker 1: now we're venturing into territory that I didn't get to
Speaker 1: see with my own two eyes because people are the
Speaker 1: worst in my security clearance wasn't approved in time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably know. You probably walked right past a bunch of
Speaker 1: secret Yeah. I probably did. Um, And since I didn't
Speaker 1: get to see it with my own two eyes, were
Speaker 1: just going to not even talk about this part. Cool? Great,
Speaker 1: really just kidding there. So there's a tram system that,
Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, takes not as far
Speaker 1: as I can tell, it takes you from one concourse
Speaker 1: to another, and I didn't I couldn't tell if there
Speaker 1: was a way to walk between concourses. There should be,
Speaker 1: but I don't think there there has There should be, ye,
Speaker 1: if if the if the trains go down, you have
Speaker 1: to have a way for people to walk out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: out of the train system, sure, but walk in between concourses.
Speaker 1: I don't know that was It's fine, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to pour too much stuff into that. Now. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking is that I've been in airports, like
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta a couple of months back, and
Speaker 1: I know that you can get on the train and
Speaker 1: it zips you from concourse to concourse in no time flat.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, about ten years prior, I had said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm used to the Portland International Airport, they can't be
Speaker 1: that far. I decided to walk from one to the
Speaker 1: other and it took me twenty five minutes. Well, like
Speaker 1: in l A, you literally can't you have to get
Speaker 1: on a bus or the tram right there. You can't
Speaker 1: because it goes it's there on the other side of
Speaker 1: the tarmac. Ah. So I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: like that. I didn't get a good sense of that.
Speaker 1: It's not really that important. The only thing that really
Speaker 1: stood out to me on the trams well, actually that's
Speaker 1: not true. My guide was telling me about how in
Speaker 1: the tunnels on one side of the tunnels there's these
Speaker 1: like silver pin wheel things, lots of them, and uh,
Speaker 1: he said to me, well, what are they trying to
Speaker 1: distract you from huh, So I turned when we when
Speaker 1: we saw them, I like turned to the other side.
Speaker 1: It's just wall, it's just concrete. There's nothing there, you know.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I did notice are these what
Speaker 1: do these pin wheel things look like? Exactly? They just
Speaker 1: look like little silver pin wheels. They're just interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: because the way they set in the wall or what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like a little off the wall. They're basically the
Speaker 1: train goes by, the wind makes some spin or something.
Speaker 1: You see there. So, yeah, did you notice at any
Speaker 1: point we're watching the trash, did you notice like like
Speaker 1: tracks branching off and just going into a blank wall
Speaker 1: a wall. But I will say that it did seem
Speaker 1: like the tram system. You know, there are moments in
Speaker 1: a subway system, right that it opens up a little bit,
Speaker 1: and there's all these interchanges, and it seemed a little
Speaker 1: more complex than necessary for what I deemed to be
Speaker 1: just a back and forth tram system. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are a lot of reasonable explanations for that, other
Speaker 1: than we're transporting this car of Illuminati members often to
Speaker 1: the distance so it can go to their under Chances
Speaker 1: are good that the trams system station where they do
Speaker 1: all their maintenance runs off the same line and they
Speaker 1: have to have multiple junctions. We have a trained system
Speaker 1: here in Portland that I ride every day, and there
Speaker 1: are all kinds of junctions on that thing. The very
Speaker 1: thing is it's above ground and I can see where
Speaker 1: they go into a big building where they work on them.
Speaker 1: Were something's going on. You don't know what that? Yeah, yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: thanks for shooting that. Apart of I totally had that
Speaker 1: solve on saying that I've actually been in the strange
Speaker 1: a lot they probably don't work on. Probably that's a
Speaker 1: good point to the underground. Also, there's that fascinating defunct
Speaker 1: automated baggage system that I mentioned earlier. Well, theorists suggest
Speaker 1: I'm just using the term theorists. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: preface that one with anything, but we can all fill
Speaker 1: in the blank there suggest that there's something more nefarious
Speaker 1: going on down there, mostly because the system cost a
Speaker 1: bunch of money and never really worked. Oh it's not
Speaker 1: like we've never done that before. Yeah no, really, it
Speaker 1: looks like it was a cool concept, but I'm not
Speaker 1: totally sure why it never really worked. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff flying around the internet about why. Tons of
Speaker 1: mechanical issues, yeah, design, you know, some people say that
Speaker 1: it was too complex. Others say that it was a
Speaker 1: failed concept from the start. Still others say it's covering
Speaker 1: up something sinister, like an underground base for any thing
Speaker 1: ranging from the American government to the Illuminati to yep, aliens.
Speaker 1: Did you just say the Illuminati? I did. Are you
Speaker 1: sure to bring those guys up? I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. Can we get back to the automated bagging system? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have more things to say, No, No, I just
Speaker 1: I just have a very simple personal observation, which is,
Speaker 1: if anybody were to build that baggage system today, it
Speaker 1: would work. You know why, because we actually have decent
Speaker 1: computers that have good laser scanners for reading and barcodes
Speaker 1: and all that. Robotics are a lot better than they
Speaker 1: were back. I don't know how that thing figured out
Speaker 1: what went where, but I'm guessing that that was part
Speaker 1: of the problem. Is it was probably a barely advanced
Speaker 1: pass prototype stage thing, and that's why it never made well.
Speaker 1: I mean, but they couldn't afford to pull it all
Speaker 1: out of the Honestly, though, I don't think that it.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the computer system would have been
Speaker 1: really the big problem. Yes, it's what twenty some odd
Speaker 1: years ago at this point, You're welcome. Everyone was like
Speaker 1: more than twenty years ago. But there's people that next
Speaker 1: year we'll get to drink. Yeah, okay, but scanners still existed,
Speaker 1: computers were. Okay, it's not as though this is a
Speaker 1: highly complex task that we were asking computers and machines
Speaker 1: to do. It's fairly rudimentary. It should have been possible.
Speaker 1: It truly should have been possible, but for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. Yeah, I'm gonna I was about to
Speaker 1: launch into host of well, it's got to be this
Speaker 1: and that and this and that and this and all
Speaker 1: these details. But my answer is, it's simple as embedding
Speaker 1: our FID tags in those silly little baggage tags that
Speaker 1: you get. Now, that solves the entire problem absolutely, But
Speaker 1: just the I mean the simple idea of putting a scanner.
Speaker 1: They all have those barcodes on them anyways, that's how
Speaker 1: they do it right now. Anyways, it just takes the
Speaker 1: human element out of it to pick up the tag.
Speaker 1: Should have been possible, but for whatever reason, it wasn't
Speaker 1: I say. Yeah, I mean we've actually humanity is designed
Speaker 1: far more complex systems. I mean, look at the moon
Speaker 1: landings for press sex. So it's possible. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: as we said, and as I said earlier. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so they built all these tunnels. The tunnels can't be
Speaker 1: used for anything else because they couldn't afford to pull
Speaker 1: all the stuff out. They were crammed with all these
Speaker 1: parts that were thousands of dollars. And you're not you've
Speaker 1: abandoned the idea. You're not going to spend it thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars a day for dudes to go in there
Speaker 1: with wrenches and pull it all out. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: and then they might actually be thinking, um, at some point,
Speaker 1: we can rehabilitate this whole thing. With a little some
Speaker 1: advances in technology, we can actually make it work possible. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's also several very unsubstantiated claims that we might have
Speaker 1: substantiated that when d I A was first being built,
Speaker 1: five buildings were built somehow wrong and just buried. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that. It's like you guys, guys screw bury
Speaker 1: these buildings, just bury them instead of tearing them down,
Speaker 1: they just buried them and then built the current airport
Speaker 1: on top of it. Just how deep of the hole
Speaker 1: you'd have to dig to or how much ground you'd
Speaker 1: have to stack on top toy a single story building,
Speaker 1: I don't think. Well, these were not single story buildings,
Speaker 1: or they weren't single stories. But but that's my point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean right, but on top of that, parts of
Speaker 1: the current d i A. Are underground, so you'd have
Speaker 1: to bury it deep enough and all, well, nobody saw it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. What do you get all the dirt for that?
Speaker 1: Because I mean if you just bury the buildings, and
Speaker 1: what you've got is you've got this big old hill
Speaker 1: right there in the middle of it, right next to
Speaker 1: your airport, right right, which I can't see in any
Speaker 1: pictures or aerials or anything. No, although there is that
Speaker 1: suspicious landfill not so far away, they could have just
Speaker 1: covered it with trash. Did you did you find anything?
Speaker 1: I'm just being a jerk. I looked. I'd look for
Speaker 1: information on the landfill and I couldn't find it. On
Speaker 1: areals everybody screens about the landfill, and I couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: And I was there, like I didn't notice like giant landfill.
Speaker 1: Although like, I don't fifty three square miles. It could
Speaker 1: be pretty far out there, I guess, But I wrote,
Speaker 1: I mean I was around Denver in the airport for
Speaker 1: a while, so doing research obviously. So apparently the claims
Speaker 1: come from a quote unquote construction company whistleblower. Which this
Speaker 1: is one of those things that I think. It's one
Speaker 1: of those ones that I think people make up something
Speaker 1: that's just so preposterous that you know, how could anybody
Speaker 1: possibly believe it? They just put it on the internet
Speaker 1: and see who goes with it. I well have I
Speaker 1: just don't understand how that is possible to raise the
Speaker 1: grade so much that you can bury a single or
Speaker 1: multi story building. Yeah, well, I guess. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a downer. But there is a news channel
Speaker 1: that's based in Denver that makes a habit of debunking
Speaker 1: d I A myths, and this is one of the
Speaker 1: myths that they took on. So they were granted the
Speaker 1: access that I was denied because bureaucracy, man, damn man.
Speaker 1: They got to take their cameras down under to see
Speaker 1: what's really going on. And long story short, and nothing nothing. Wait,
Speaker 1: were the baggage tunnels or the tunnels, the buried buildings.
Speaker 1: There were no buried buildings, but they were in all
Speaker 1: the tunnels under there, and it it's pretty boring. It's eerie,
Speaker 1: for sure, but there's not really anything going on down there.
Speaker 1: The question, you've got to expect that the Illuminati and
Speaker 1: the New World orderlies and all those people um are
Speaker 1: probably their order and the New World orderlies. Yes, obviously
Speaker 1: you gotta expect. These people are very adept at creating
Speaker 1: things like false walls. And then I guess, in fairness, right,
Speaker 1: they would be a good tactic to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can come down, there's nothing down here. Oh what
Speaker 1: the that door, Oh that's the emergency exit. It'll sound
Speaker 1: an alarm. Don't go through there, don't do it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like just written in sharpie on it, do not enter
Speaker 1: on like a piece of printer paper, taps to the wall. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would, Yeah, it would be It would be really
Speaker 1: funny if you actually, if you work for the airport,
Speaker 1: you know, before you can take them down of the tunnels,
Speaker 1: you take you take some sort of a fine tool
Speaker 1: to to cut what looks like the outline of a
Speaker 1: door on the side of you know, and all that,
Speaker 1: and then what you do is you have like, you know,
Speaker 1: what appears to be a nameplate or something like that.
Speaker 1: You make a little shadow that and then you have
Speaker 1: that pride off you know, and everything like that. You
Speaker 1: just see if they notice it, and if they do,
Speaker 1: it's just oh, oh that's nothing. That's Scooby Doo. I
Speaker 1: never watch Scooby Doo. That explains so many I know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's pretty much it. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is one of those stories that just it's it's
Speaker 1: so hard because there's so many things and I'm using
Speaker 1: air quotes. Yeah, there's things that are mingled together. It
Speaker 1: leaves a funny taste to my mouth. I don't know
Speaker 1: how to how to approach this one around. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think there's very much to say about it. You know,
Speaker 1: I got to like say it to you that people
Speaker 1: be more discriminating in your mystery. You know, this is
Speaker 1: just not a great I mean, there's so much ink
Speaker 1: spilled over this of this mystery or mysteries I guess,
Speaker 1: and there's so many better mysteries of spilling over. Dude,
Speaker 1: stop wasting your time valuable ones in Zeros. I think
Speaker 1: you know the thing, like I said earlier, The thing
Speaker 1: is to me is that I I do think that
Speaker 1: if each of these I don't know mysteries were all
Speaker 1: separated out into different places, I'd be much more willing
Speaker 1: to say, like, that's nothing when you're talking about But
Speaker 1: the fact that they're all there, you know, one half
Speaker 1: of my brain wants to say, well, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's a little weird. On the other hand, I want
Speaker 1: to say, it's not that weird, but the well, the
Speaker 1: grouping of circumstances that happened to be odd together, I
Speaker 1: admit it's weird. But the problem is then spawns so
Speaker 1: many other little urban myths around it. And there's a
Speaker 1: myth if I can't remember it was, was it the
Speaker 1: queen or the president? The queen in England was in
Speaker 1: Denver at Land all around it? Yeah, well go figure.
Speaker 1: They their money is tied up in real estate. It's
Speaker 1: an airport. What typically goes up around airports businesses? Yeah,
Speaker 1: service the airport or used the airport, like it totally
Speaker 1: makes sense that they'd be buying that. But oh no,
Speaker 1: that's so that they can rush the queen there and
Speaker 1: in case of a nuclear event and stuffer in a tunnel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the thing about the the asteroid to another comment,
Speaker 1: I mean, um, and I was I was going to
Speaker 1: actually make notes about this, but I figured he would
Speaker 1: include a new script and so I didn't bother. But
Speaker 1: the comment was we'll call it comment yeah coming a
Speaker 1: yeah yeah a U g uh. It was due to
Speaker 1: come to within twenty two miles of the Earth's surface,
Speaker 1: according to one of the pages that was out there,
Speaker 1: on the date of December I think something like that.
Speaker 1: And coincidentally, President Obama was in the Denver airport that
Speaker 1: same day because just in case there was an impact.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like he's there's there's massive shelters right there.
Speaker 1: That's another another thing is that the underground buildings and everything.
Speaker 1: Someone them say, that's just that there's this massive bomb
Speaker 1: shelter down there for all the elites and everything. Of course,
Speaker 1: the comment actually didn't come any It passed year like
Speaker 1: months before that, and it didn't come twenty two miles
Speaker 1: of our surface because we all would have heard about that.
Speaker 1: It was twenty two million miles. So there was one
Speaker 1: thing where there was some uh gosh, there were coordinates
Speaker 1: that were released in conjunction with some huge conspiracy something
Speaker 1: and everybody was saying, well, the coordinates are exactly where
Speaker 1: the Denver Airport was, but the coordinates were released like
Speaker 1: seventy years prior and they actually are like fifty five
Speaker 1: miles away from the airport. You know, it's just if
Speaker 1: there's a somebody, I think it was the pr person
Speaker 1: for the Denver Airport is quoted as saying, if there's
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory, it's linked to the Denver Airport, and
Speaker 1: I think that's true. I would not actually be surprised
Speaker 1: if that person or maybe a person is working for
Speaker 1: the Denver Airport are putting this stuff out. It's got
Speaker 1: to be fun as hell. Yeah. Probably you're you're gonna
Speaker 1: work at this great new airport and then you have
Speaker 1: to wait a year and a half for your job
Speaker 1: and you're angry at it. So you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna come up, oh, well, I know this was weird.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put that out there. Just keep going.
Speaker 1: It's not costing any business. The rest of us still
Speaker 1: have to fly through there because the airline goes through it. Yeah. So, um,
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