Speaker 1: Last time on silenced.
Speaker 2: Whenever you speak your MANI, you're never safe.
Speaker 3: They would come to see who's demonstrating against the Juvalier,
Speaker 3: so that our names could be placed on the black
Speaker 3: book like Luis Noir.
Speaker 4: It went from being here's the murder that no one
Speaker 4: has solved yet, too, this is a campaign of murder
Speaker 4: targeting Creole language broadcasters. So it really sort of raised
Speaker 4: the question of how much farther is this going to go?
Speaker 5: From nineteen seventy four to nineteen ninety one when it
Speaker 5: passed will Always Together.
Speaker 6: That's John Rodrigue Marcella's, a former city councilman of North Maya,
Speaker 6: talking about his best friend Fritz Dahr. Growing up in Haiti.
Speaker 6: They were more like brothers. Marcellus lived with Fritz's family
Speaker 6: when his own moved out of the city.
Speaker 5: They become mystle good parents. Me and Fritz. We never fight.
Speaker 5: Fwitz was so wise.
Speaker 6: Marcellus looked up to Fritz from an early age, and
Speaker 6: despite his short stature, Fritz was clearly a leader with
Speaker 6: deep convictions and growing up during the Devalier regime that
Speaker 6: got him into trouble. In the late seventies, he was
Speaker 6: an ambitious twenty one year old who'd been selected for
Speaker 6: a program to identify the next generation of Haitian educators.
Speaker 6: At the end of the program, the students gathered to
Speaker 6: find out whether they'd got in a job. There was
Speaker 6: excitement and tension in the room. Then Fritz got incredible news.
Speaker 6: He'd achieved the highest honor. He was going to be
Speaker 6: a school principal. They told Fritz there'd be a national
Speaker 6: event to honor him. Even the President of Haiti would
Speaker 6: be there. But when Fritz heard that news, his demeanor
Speaker 6: changed immediately, and.
Speaker 5: Fwitz said, he said, I'm not going to be on
Speaker 5: that on that celebration with baby dog Duvalier. A man
Speaker 5: like me cannot be with that man.
Speaker 6: The room fell silent, right there in front of hundreds
Speaker 6: of people. Fritz had stepped over an uncrossable line. He
Speaker 6: criticized the Duvalier. He and Marcellus left in a hurry.
Speaker 6: It wasn't even fifteen minutes later that the whispers started.
Speaker 6: Marcella says an enforcer, a Tonton maccout, had been at
Speaker 6: the event and heard Fritz's declaration against du Valier. Now
Speaker 6: the mccout was out for revenge.
Speaker 5: When that man went after him. We know exactly what
Speaker 5: time was it time for them to kill us.
Speaker 6: Fritz's parents acted fast. They hid Fritz away and pulled
Speaker 6: together all the money they could for two seats on
Speaker 6: a boat heading from Haiti to Miami, one for Fritz
Speaker 6: and one for Marcellus.
Speaker 5: And he's not an easy from Haiti to hear the
Speaker 5: ocean was warf.
Speaker 6: The two men joined the surge of tens of thousands
Speaker 6: of refugees who fled the Duvalier regime in small boats.
Speaker 5: It was very scary. One hundred and fifty one people
Speaker 5: was in that boat. There was an hurricane one of
Speaker 5: the night. We thought they boat will crash little piece
Speaker 5: by a little because it was so hard.
Speaker 6: But Marcello's and Fritz made it. After fourteen days at sea,
Speaker 6: they arrived as refugees in Florida just after Christmas Day
Speaker 6: on December twenty seventh, nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 5: We came here on a Friday night and Saturday night
Speaker 5: while wey at the meeting with Fada Juice. When we
Speaker 5: met with Fadai Jia Janice was like a dream come true.
Speaker 6: Fritz quickly became a leader in father Jeanju's movement, the
Speaker 6: AO and on the radio in Florida. He'd become an
Speaker 6: outspoken critic of the Duvaliers. But soon after their perilous journey,
Speaker 6: he and Marcellus would learn that Miami was not as safe.
Speaker 5: As they thought. Any one of us at any tank.
Speaker 6: From Kaleidoscope and iHeart podcasts, This is Silenced, I'm os
Speaker 6: Valoscian and.
Speaker 7: I'm Anna Arana.
Speaker 8: This is episode two, Truth and Bullets.
Speaker 5: Chris was so involved in the community. I believe Fred
Speaker 5: You just give him a setting where he can practice
Speaker 5: what he loved the most.
Speaker 7: Fritz became one of Father John Juw's most trusted followers
Speaker 7: and an inspiration to other young exiles.
Speaker 3: Fritzdal was like a real organizer.
Speaker 7: People like Marlon Bastien.
Speaker 3: I liked it because when I first give you, I
Speaker 3: saw people on the street and then speaking about against
Speaker 3: the dictatorship. How I said, Oh I found my nest,
Speaker 3: Oh my lord. I was like in the right place.
Speaker 7: Fritz's stage job was helping community members with immigration paperwork,
Speaker 7: but he spent his free time devoted to activism.
Speaker 3: But THEO, he was very active in the organizing to
Speaker 3: topple the diver dictatorship and also to advocate for the
Speaker 3: busic rights of due process of the Hitsian refugees were
Speaker 3: coming on mass at the time. But he was very
Speaker 3: outspoken and he was on all the radios. He was
Speaker 3: a young, brash, seuless, young leader.
Speaker 7: For all his courage. Fritz was described as a gentle
Speaker 7: and unimposing person. He always wore a tie. He lived
Speaker 7: in a small house, taking care of his four children
Speaker 7: and a brother who was paralyzed, and he hosted a
Speaker 7: show called Radio AO Ask.
Speaker 5: Black abdomin.
Speaker 9: Wl QY twighteen twenty am. This is the most well
Speaker 9: listening radio and the Asian Committee.
Speaker 7: This is Tony John Deanor. He was Fritz's co host.
Speaker 7: Father John Jus had asked both of them to start
Speaker 7: the show because he wanted a media platform where they
Speaker 7: could fully control the message.
Speaker 5: Tony, go back there.
Speaker 9: Our first poll cup started for if I remember it's
Speaker 9: nineteen eighty eight or nineteen a nine, I was pretty
Speaker 9: young back then.
Speaker 7: Tony was in charge of fundraising. They needed money for
Speaker 7: the airtime. They paid the station a couple of hundred
Speaker 7: dollars per hour.
Speaker 5: He liked to fight for cause, or it was fighting
Speaker 5: for a cause.
Speaker 1: What does his voice.
Speaker 10: Sound like.
Speaker 6: Loud.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Maybe if you're short, you like to talk loud to
Speaker 9: get attention. It was a great It was a great moment.
Speaker 9: It was a great time because there was a lot
Speaker 9: of hope in the air for us here and and Haiti.
Speaker 6: When John Berton Aristide emerged as a candidate in the
Speaker 6: presidential election, Tony and Fritz became vocal support on the
Speaker 6: Miami airwaves.
Speaker 9: We're going to put somebody we know from us, from
Speaker 9: our whoop to become president of the country.
Speaker 6: After Aristeid's landslide victory, it seemed in that brief moment
Speaker 6: like via Yo's allies had won in Haiti. Refugees like
Speaker 6: Tony and Fritz, imagine the Haiti that Aristide had promised
Speaker 6: actually becoming real. He'd said he'd make radical change. Maybe
Speaker 6: they could even move back home. Tony and Fritz celebrated
Speaker 6: Aristide's victory at a huge street party in Miami, alongside
Speaker 6: one of the movement's other broadcasters, Jean Cordo Olivier, also
Speaker 6: known as Division Star. But Aristide's enemies hadn't gone away,
Speaker 6: and they weren't just going to lie down. A few
Speaker 6: short weeks after the election, there was a coup attempt
Speaker 6: to unseat the new president.
Speaker 11: In Haiti today another coup attempt by a former supporter
Speaker 11: of the dictator, baby doctor Valier, but loyal West troops
Speaker 11: managed to storm the presidential palace and arrested Offontaine and
Speaker 11: as followers. At least thirty seven people were killed, however,
Speaker 11: seven were launched.
Speaker 6: It failed, but it stoked the ongoing battles on the
Speaker 6: radio in little Haiti. On one side, Tony and Fritz
Speaker 6: and other pro Aristide broadcasters speaking for change for democracy.
Speaker 6: On the other side, pro military voices, often representing Haiti's
Speaker 6: moneyed interests, fighting for the status quo.
Speaker 5: They had no radios. Look they got money, they got money.
Speaker 9: This show what the good life for the bourgeois. And
Speaker 9: here is the message was, don't talk about change too much.
Speaker 6: And then less than two weeks after Aristide's inauguration in
Speaker 6: February nineteen ninety one, the battle on the airwaves moved
Speaker 6: to the streets. Via Yo broadcaster jeentlaur Olivier was gunned
Speaker 6: down outside the Chateau Club in his white suit, roses
Speaker 6: in hand. Tony says he and Fritz had heard whispers
Speaker 6: about a hit list of enemies of the military regime,
Speaker 6: what Marlene had called the Black Book, and word was
Speaker 6: that Fritz's name was on the list, but it wasn't
Speaker 6: clear if it was just a rumor. Then Fritz started
Speaker 6: getting anonymous death threats, threats.
Speaker 10: Like I'm going to destroy you.
Speaker 9: I'm going to destroy you.
Speaker 10: You talk too much, too much.
Speaker 9: Garbage on the radio, and we don't want to change.
Speaker 10: You got to pay for it.
Speaker 6: Tony remembers these threats ratcheting up, called him with increasing
Speaker 6: ferocity to the radio show. Someone even came to the
Speaker 6: station with a gun.
Speaker 9: Continued to talk.
Speaker 6: To their family and friends pleaded with them to be careful,
Speaker 6: but the threats didn't face them.
Speaker 9: Lilydies, Oh, nothing would happen to us.
Speaker 6: At around eight pm on March fifteenth, Tony drove to
Speaker 6: the Dixie Express driving School, right across the street from
Speaker 6: the Caribbean Market in the heart of Little Haiti. Fritz
Speaker 6: ran his immigration business out of the driving school, and
Speaker 6: that night he happened to be working on Tony's brother's case.
Speaker 9: My little border was with him, My little border was
Speaker 9: with him.
Speaker 6: Tony was at the driving school to pick up Fritz
Speaker 6: for of AO meeting He took us to the location.
Speaker 5: Right there, and I opened the door.
Speaker 6: And Tony expected Fritz to jump in his car.
Speaker 9: I come there to get him because it was in
Speaker 9: the air that were going to be attack and then
Speaker 9: we may get killed.
Speaker 6: But that night Fritz told Tony to go on without him,
Speaker 6: so Tony went to the meeting, thinking Fritz would soon
Speaker 6: walk through the door to join him.
Speaker 5: It was inside the old building.
Speaker 9: If it was, it was full of people close to
Speaker 9: one hundred.
Speaker 6: Not long after the meeting started, the door banged open
Speaker 6: and someone burst into the room. He said, first, got chat, First,
Speaker 6: got chat.
Speaker 9: Theo went cold, the woman went cold. And then people
Speaker 9: start running the street and go back to fifty to
Speaker 9: fifty nine street. When we get to fifty Night Street,
Speaker 9: the embullace was right there.
Speaker 6: Tony sail Fritz was still conscious. He rushed over.
Speaker 5: Are you all right? He said, yeah, Oh, I'm fine.
Speaker 5: I'm fine. I'm fine, I'm fine. You get to the
Speaker 5: hospital live. You get to the hospital.
Speaker 9: That then all the doctors I remember that day, all
Speaker 9: the doctors, many three or four doctors rushed into the Jackson.
Speaker 5: The doctor come out.
Speaker 9: When I saw the doctor's face and the doctor saying
Speaker 9: they start shaking their head like this and they say
Speaker 9: fris is gone.
Speaker 5: They say Fritz is gone.
Speaker 9: It was that Monday night when you go to the
Speaker 9: radio show that think that was a tough one for
Speaker 9: all of us.
Speaker 6: At the first radio VIAO broadcast without Fritz, there was
Speaker 6: a void next to the microphone where Fritz usually stood.
Speaker 9: That the toughest day for all of us when we
Speaker 9: get to go do that show without him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 5: I couldn't.
Speaker 3: It was at this center was even I was in shock.
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 3: It was surreal. It's so powerful, so strong, so energetic, so.
Speaker 1: Full of life.
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that he died.
Speaker 6: Fritz have been cut down in his prime. Less than
Speaker 6: a month after Jean Lord, Olivier, Tony and the others
Speaker 6: from Vero were haunted by the murders.
Speaker 9: Somebody, someone else is going to get killed. This says
Speaker 9: someone else is going to get killed.
Speaker 1: The question was who's next.
Speaker 4: It really not only struck a blow against these broadcasters
Speaker 4: and the causes they were advocating, but the community itself.
Speaker 6: This is Harold mass Again, the Miami Herald reporter who
Speaker 6: was following the crimes on Craile Radio. He was struck
Speaker 6: in particular by the symbolic location of Fritz's murder right
Speaker 6: in the heart of little Haiti.
Speaker 4: It chipped away at whatever remaining doubts there were that
Speaker 4: Jacques Clouda Olivier's killing had been political, because it was
Speaker 4: just too much of a coincidence that they both expressed
Speaker 4: support of jehn bachand Aristid.
Speaker 6: The Haitian community knew how dangerous it could be to
Speaker 6: speak out against the dictatorship or the military back home.
Speaker 6: That's why Fritz and Marlene and so many others had
Speaker 6: left Haiti in the first place. But with these killings,
Speaker 6: the fear was growing that even in exile on American soil,
Speaker 6: on the streets of Miami, they were not safe to
Speaker 6: speak freely, that their enemies were still close at hand.
Speaker 6: Back in Haiti, other journalists were following the cases intently.
Speaker 6: Actuality Michelle Montasse and her husband around the country's best
Speaker 6: known independent radio station, Radio Haiti. It was the place
Speaker 6: where Morlene had come to complain about not being allowed
Speaker 6: to study under street lamps, the interview that forced her
Speaker 6: into exile. Michelle's husband, the iconic journalist Jean Dominique, had
Speaker 6: a catchphrase.
Speaker 12: You can kill the truth with the bullet.
Speaker 6: Fritz had been inspired by Jean Dominique and would listen
Speaker 6: to broadcasts to Radio Haiti from across the water. Now
Speaker 6: the same journalist he looked up to were covering his murder.
Speaker 6: When we interviewed Michelle, she played us the segment.
Speaker 5: That's you that's what you say.
Speaker 12: I was announcing the clips saying that March fifteen, the
Speaker 12: Fritz Door is killed. Okay, So in that that the
Speaker 12: recording must have been on March sixteen or seventeen.
Speaker 7: On that broadcast, Father John Jus raised the community's theory
Speaker 7: about the murders. They had angered their political enemies and
Speaker 7: that's why they were killed. What if the murder for
Speaker 7: the murder came from Haiti. What if the murderer himself
Speaker 7: had crossed the ocean.
Speaker 12: Talking about the fact that this assassins could have left
Speaker 12: Haiti to go to Miami. Hypothesis mamvel at, we know
Speaker 12: that this will not this will not go unpunished because
Speaker 12: we were, Ao say, we were in the Haitian community already.
Speaker 12: The people around Fitzdor have given a lot of information.
Speaker 12: If the Miami Police decides to do its work, the
Speaker 12: assassin will be in prison very.
Speaker 7: Soon if the Miami Police decides to do its work.
Speaker 7: It was a big.
Speaker 1: If, a big if, But why the if?
Speaker 7: It all Father Johns and the rest of Ao. We're
Speaker 7: not really fully trusting what the Miami Police Department was doing.
Speaker 7: I think back in Haiti, you see anyone in a uniform,
Speaker 7: and they were allies of the dictatorship and enemies of
Speaker 7: the democratic movement that they were pushing forward in Miami.
Speaker 7: The white officers and superiors could not make sense of
Speaker 7: the feuds that immigrants actually harbored in their communities.
Speaker 1: But there were also a number of Haitian Americans.
Speaker 7: Wearing the uniform. Gives pause to a community that has
Speaker 7: been so bruce, like the patient community at that time,
Speaker 7: and maybe even now. Communities know each other, they know
Speaker 7: where they come from, they know their last names, they
Speaker 7: know their families. And then later we find that there
Speaker 7: were some connections that maybe led some of the members
Speaker 7: of the community to think, well, should we trust them?
Speaker 6: Connections in other words, between the Haitian American cops in
Speaker 6: Miami and military families back home. Yes, despite the community's distrust,
Speaker 6: the police did put together a task force to investigate
Speaker 6: both killings, and they assigned all the Craole speaking offices
Speaker 6: they could find to the case.
Speaker 10: My creoll suckslave. You know, Mamstein is great speak, it
Speaker 10: is poor. But the whole focus is can you relate? Yes?
Speaker 10: One hundred and nine half percent.
Speaker 6: That's Officer Raymond Carville. He came from a Haitian family
Speaker 6: but grew up in the Bahamas. He was assigned to
Speaker 6: the task force and told us they work practically twenty
Speaker 6: four to seven to solve these cases.
Speaker 10: The way we get involved. Words start to circulate that
Speaker 10: it was it was more than just a had to
Speaker 10: be so blood but typical homicide. It was, you know,
Speaker 10: a politically motivated and we got to put a stop
Speaker 10: to it because who knows who's next. But those two
Speaker 10: individual were high profile speakers and the Haitian community people
Speaker 10: listen to them.
Speaker 6: The Miami PD also set up a Crayole language hotline.
Speaker 6: Leeds started pouring in. Most of the callers believed that
Speaker 6: the murders were politically motivated, but the theories about who
Speaker 6: was involved varied. Was the hit order from Haiti or
Speaker 6: from Miami? Did the hit man come from or a prince?
Speaker 6: Or was he already in Florida.
Speaker 10: We were a little haiti, and I mean it was
Speaker 10: there almost Other than a few hours of sleep, we
Speaker 10: were there.
Speaker 6: NonStop, day in and day out. Raymond says. They fielded
Speaker 6: calls and chase leads. Some tips were stranger than others.
Speaker 6: A witness claimed she saw a man in a long
Speaker 6: wig fleeing the scene of Fritz's murder. We were told that,
Speaker 6: though odd, it struck some as a clue. Dressing as
Speaker 6: women had been a classic disguise of the Tonton macouts.
Speaker 6: Another claimed the getaway car had a new Jersey license plate.
Speaker 6: Had the killers come from out of state? According to
Speaker 6: an officer's deposition. Cops also noticed a post it note
Speaker 6: found on the scene on Fritz's briefcase. It had the
Speaker 6: name of a Miami Herald reporter scribbled on It was
Speaker 6: Fritz about to share something that someone wanted to keep secret.
Speaker 6: None of these details led anywhere. Then, three weeks after
Speaker 6: Fritz was shot, a breakthrough.
Speaker 2: At ten hundred hours, Detective Watkins and I went to
Speaker 2: Metro Date headquarters.
Speaker 6: This is an actor reading from a copy of the
Speaker 6: incident report from the Miami PD. We got our hands
Speaker 6: on it after a Freedom of information request. It's marked
Speaker 6: for internal use only, not suitable for public release, and
Speaker 6: it's all marked up with blacked out redactions, but it
Speaker 6: reveals a major clue. The bullets recovered from the bodies
Speaker 6: of Fritz dor and Jean Claude Olivier matched. Both men
Speaker 6: were killed with the same gun. The bullets were thirty
Speaker 6: eight millimeter projectiles, and the reports said they could have
Speaker 6: come from a Lama, Ruger, Smith and Wesson, sport Arms
Speaker 6: or Taurus, a revolver, a gun with a spinning barrel
Speaker 6: that allowed multiple, large and deadly bullets to be fired fast,
Speaker 6: the kind of gun you'd see in a gangster movie.
Speaker 6: When police canvassed the neighborhood, they found this type of
Speaker 6: bullet embedded in a tree that appeared to have been
Speaker 6: used for target practice. This information seemed to confirm what
Speaker 6: many in the community had been saying all along. The
Speaker 6: killings were connected, but distrust of the police was becoming
Speaker 6: a major obstacle to investigation. Leeds quickly dried up, people
Speaker 6: just didn't want to talk.
Speaker 2: Redacted could offer no further information. Redacted denied any involvement
Speaker 2: in the homicide of Fritz Door or John Claude Olivier.
Speaker 1: The hunt for the killer seemed to be going nowhere.
Speaker 7: There were those in Little Haiti who did not believe
Speaker 7: that the police would ever truly get to the bottom
Speaker 7: of it all. So about a month after fritz Is killing,
Speaker 7: Little Haiti took to the streets and anger. A thousand
Speaker 7: people marched with candles to protest the way the investigation
Speaker 7: was being handled. They carried signs. One sign read police
Speaker 7: FBI stop protecting Tantum mccoud.
Speaker 6: A few weeks later, a major break in the case
Speaker 6: appeared in the form of a guy named Glossy Bruce Joseph.
Speaker 6: Joseph was in a Miami day jail cell for a
Speaker 6: totally unrelated crime when officers from the Task Force showed
Speaker 6: up to interview him. This is what they learned. According
Speaker 6: to the police report.
Speaker 2: Joseph said that he was to be paid five thousand
Speaker 2: dollars to watch the driving school for Fritzdor when he
Speaker 2: leaves work.
Speaker 6: Glossi had a bunch of knowledge about the case, including
Speaker 6: knowing where fritz was that night, and he gave the
Speaker 6: police a tidy motive.
Speaker 2: Joseph states that fritz Dor was killed over a nineteen
Speaker 2: kilogram cocaine deal where nine kilograms were stolen.
Speaker 6: A drug deal gone bad. This was territory the police
Speaker 6: were familiar with. In fact, at the time, in Miami,
Speaker 6: if a police officer interacted with someone little Haiti, it
Speaker 6: often has signs to do with drugs. The picture all
Speaker 6: started to fit, at least to the investigators. Just like
Speaker 6: with John tord Olivier, the specter of drugs showed up.
Speaker 6: After the interview, Joseph was immediately brought into the homicide division,
Speaker 6: and that's when he had a change of heart.
Speaker 2: While at the homicide office, Joseph told us that he
Speaker 2: had been lying, that he had not been truthful on
Speaker 2: what he had said, and that he had made the
Speaker 2: whole story up.
Speaker 6: The police report is a head spinner of a document. First,
Speaker 6: Lossy Bruce confesses to knowledge of the murder, then he
Speaker 6: says he's lying. Then detectives questioned him for a few
Speaker 6: more hours and give him an inconclusive polygraph test, and
Speaker 6: Lossy Bruce goes back to his original story. Over the
Speaker 6: next few days, he changed his story back and forth
Speaker 6: several more times before the report concluded on May twenty third,
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety one, pretty inconclusively. It says the case should
Speaker 6: be cleared by the arrest of Lossy Bruce Joseph, but
Speaker 6: also that it will remain under current investigation and that
Speaker 6: several leads are being followed. So out of this is
Speaker 6: where the two month investigation landed with the arrest of
Speaker 6: Glossy Bruce Joseph, who was already in jail and who
Speaker 6: didn't even confess to pulling the trigger, just to being
Speaker 6: a lookout when Fritz was shot over some stolen cocaine.
Speaker 7: When I heard and read about Glossy Bruce, I just thought,
Speaker 7: this is weird. It doesn't really make sense to me.
Speaker 7: My feeling was there was pressure on the police department
Speaker 7: to close the investigation. It was expensive, it was two months,
Speaker 7: it was creating a lot of hassholds within the community,
Speaker 7: and they wanted to save face. It also seemed to
Speaker 7: be easier for the investigators to follow this confession rather
Speaker 7: than keep digging. The issue of drugs was big, and
Speaker 7: it was big in the community, so they figured they
Speaker 7: would put it all together and then that way the
Speaker 7: case may go away.
Speaker 13: I never bought this idea that these killings were about drugs.
Speaker 7: It makes me wonder why did it happen. What did
Speaker 7: they think that it was just going to go away?
Speaker 13: The idea that Fritz dr would be mixed up in
Speaker 13: the drug trade just seemed preposterous to me.
Speaker 6: In fact, it began to emerge that it was Fritz's
Speaker 6: enemies who were involved in the drug trade. That's next
Speaker 6: time I Silenced. We should note that we tried to
Speaker 6: get comment from Glossie, Bruce Joseph, but we couldn't locate him.
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