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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome back to Wrestling with Freddie. And now

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Speaker 1: we've had a couple of guests. These guests I've been

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Speaker 1: waiting for for quite some time. They've hung out with

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Speaker 1: my wife and my daughter more recently than me, so

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Speaker 1: my whole family knows and loves them. So let's start

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Speaker 1: the show. Welcome to Wrestling with Freddie. Now stepping up

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Speaker 1: to the mic, the host of Wrestling with Freddie, Freddie

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Speaker 1: Prince June, Please welcome, Bree and Nikki Bella. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show, ladies. Oh hello, and thank you for having us, Freddy.

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Speaker 1: This is exciting. It's so crazy. This is gonna probably

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Speaker 1: just feel more like we're talking than a podcast. But

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Speaker 1: it's so crazy to have met you when I met you,

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Speaker 1: and to now see what you've built as far as

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Speaker 1: who you guys are, what you've built with family, what's

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Speaker 1: you've built, what you've built with putting stuff back out

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Speaker 1: there and sending love back out and it's I just

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Speaker 1: it's not like proud because I'm not your dad. I'm

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Speaker 1: just so thoroughly impressed by you two every step of

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Speaker 1: the way. Every time I hear something about y'all, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course, they did that, of course they did. And

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Speaker 1: that kind of jumps into right where I want to start,

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Speaker 1: which was when I was working there and you toour

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Speaker 1: down in Florida in FCW and Michael Hayes really wanted

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Speaker 1: to get you guys up, and our ideas just kept

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Speaker 1: getting shot down, shot down and shot down again, no matter.

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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, me and another writer, Angelo must

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Speaker 1: have pitched a dozen ideas in a month, and no

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Speaker 1: matter what we did, they wouldn't get over. And Freeburg goes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do the Twin magic and that's how we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get them home. And I didn't even know what

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Speaker 1: that was, okay, so I was just like, all right,

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Speaker 1: whatever gets them on. And then I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you if y'all even know this, but the way we

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Speaker 1: were able to bring you up was when you leveraged

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Speaker 1: yourselves against the company and basically gave them a referendum.

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Speaker 1: Bring us up or we walk and all the like.

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Speaker 1: So many people have tried to give me credit over

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Speaker 1: the years for the Bella Twins, and I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: y'all don't understand, Like these women knew their worth and

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Speaker 1: knew their value long long, long ago. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you guys even remember that moment, but I

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Speaker 1: was just wondering if if you did, if that was

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Speaker 1: a plan, or where were your heads at when that happened. No.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's interesting because we actually do give

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Speaker 1: you a lot of credit though, because for so when

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Speaker 1: we were down to FCW for so long, they kept

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Speaker 1: being like, well, we just don't know what to do

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Speaker 1: like it writes itself, right, But it was your ideas

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Speaker 1: that you kept pushing that I think made the company

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Speaker 1: a lot of the people at the time to see like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: there is something special. And the greatest thing is there

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Speaker 1: was no social media, so we could really hide the

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Speaker 1: so really nobody knew Nicole and I like at all

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Speaker 1: that there was twins. I'm like, locally in Tampa, yeah,

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Speaker 1: whole global WW world people didn't know. So it was

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Speaker 1: really the timing. But it was it wasn't Nikki as

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Speaker 1: much as me, because they kept saying they had no

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Speaker 1: idea I had at the time a boyfriend who was like,

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Speaker 1: you gave up everything for wrestling, Like, at what time

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Speaker 1: do you start to give back to the people who

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Speaker 1: your family, I'm here alone all the time, like and

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Speaker 1: all that. And I was like, that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: So I was the one who pushed it. I was like, listen,

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Speaker 1: I was in the room when it happened. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: in Hollywood, at least, if a woman is assertive, she's difficult, right.

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Speaker 1: If if a man is assertive, he's manic. I didn't

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Speaker 1: the foundation that women's wrestling is on today. So you

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Speaker 1: two remember this better than anyone. When I was writing

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Speaker 1: segments for you guys, and y'all had matches, the women's

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Speaker 1: And I watched and this was right after I left

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Speaker 1: Sarah was like, well, I was like, I've never I've

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Speaker 1: And you guys can be super humbled about this if

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Speaker 1: I'm being, But the foundation that women are wrestling on today,

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Speaker 1: and other people have tried to take a lot of

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Speaker 1: like Ronda said some stuff that was weird to me,

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Speaker 1: where I was like, I don't I don't know if

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Speaker 1: reason women's wrestling is at where it's at today is

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Speaker 1: because of what YouTube built, and then the other women

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Speaker 1: that's why they're women headlining WrestleMania, That's why there was

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Speaker 1: it's ninety percent because of the concrete that y'all laid

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Freddie for that. You have no

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Speaker 1: And Brie and I it was, you know, when we

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Speaker 1: but well, we're working hard on live events. We are

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Speaker 1: Soapox that's making me so crazy. They've never been more profitable,

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Speaker 1: It was like Festus and his partner chasing them and

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Speaker 1: then they were chasing them back while you two had

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Speaker 1: like combo with Carlito and Primo, I think is what

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Speaker 1: it was. Yeah. Yeah, we tried to do stuff like that,

431
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Speaker 1: but we would get clipped a lot. I would get

432
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Speaker 1: caught more than we got away with it, but I

433
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Speaker 1: always tried. It was so entertaining, so entertaining was so

434
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Speaker 1: I missed that stuff. That's the fun stuff that you

435
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Speaker 1: know that wrestling has and like because the characters are

436
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,360
Speaker 1: so amazing and it's so much fun to see them

437
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: every week and why we all love wrestling. Like there's

438
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Speaker 1: just this beauty to pro wrestling that another company gets

439
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: to do. We get to be a little campy, but

440
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: at the same time we can be serious, but it's

441
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Speaker 1: okay to be corny, and I'll like have big characters,

442
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: but then some serious like we're allowed to be all that,

443
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: and sometimes I feel like we try so hard to

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00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: in our heads think we're competing with UFC, which is

445
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,719
Speaker 1: so not o. We're our own special thing. You know.

446
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: It kills me a fine. I'll start a wrestling company

447
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Speaker 1: with you too, whatever tis in my arm. I actually

448
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Speaker 1: really would do that. So I want to talk a

449
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Speaker 1: little bit about now and what's going on in your

450
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: lives now because although oh and my daughter wanted me

451
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: to tell you that she was really hoping Ardum went

452
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Speaker 1: all the way and she was super sad, but it ended.

453
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Speaker 1: And my son thinks Brian looks super tough also because

454
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Speaker 1: he takes sick. He goes, he takes six chops to

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Speaker 1: the chest. Dad, he's nine years old. He definitely does

456
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: when he comes from I'm like, I definitely please let

457
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Speaker 1: me know what's going on in your lives now, the

458
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: family stuff, the work stuff, anything you guys want to

459
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: talk about, just so that I get to enjoy. So yeah,

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00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: well it's actually crazy because earlier I'm like I was

461
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Speaker 1: Birdie was at school and I was one of the

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Speaker 1: moms volunteering, helping with arts and crafts and It's so

463
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: funny because I'm like, whoa, this is my life now.

464
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: But it's fun because, like, you know, some of the

465
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: other moms are always like, so you were a wrestler

466
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: and on reality TV, but gosh, we are just we're moms.

467
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: We're entrepreneurs. I mean, we have our own podcast too,

468
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: which we love doing because we love to talk. Yeah,

469
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: and we live out here in Wine Country, which is

470
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: in the best. Yeah. We have just really shifted in

471
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: our lives. Yeah. And you know, it's crazy because when

472
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Speaker 1: we moved in app a year ago, Brie and I

473
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Speaker 1: E wasn't picking up Total Bellas and they wanted to

474
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: take Total Bellas somewhere else, and Brie and I it

475
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: was like the first time we actually got like a

476
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Speaker 1: few months off of cameras for like the first time

477
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: in ears almost or nine. And we came out here

478
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: and we're like, whoa, this is where we want to

479
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: be the rest. Yes, And then all of a sudden

480
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: we're like, wait, we want to keep this private. We

481
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: cannot let cameras come here and ruin it. And so

482
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: that's when we made the decision, like, no more Total Bellas,

483
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Like you're not filming our families and especially when I

484
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: became a mom and Brie and seeing how Birdie was

485
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: and then just like getting to be so hands on

486
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,479
Speaker 1: in the wine making industry. Like I we grew up

487
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Speaker 1: as farmer girls, Like so we're farmers at heart. Oh

488
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Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm gonna get I cannot wait. You had

489
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Speaker 1: to see you guys Saturday night and a yard. So

490
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Speaker 1: one of the amazing restaurants here. It is a yeared experience.

491
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. And the best is we all show

492
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: up and they go, yeah, there's blankets in there, but

493
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean you get a full on yeared experience. So

494
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: we were freezing, but it was like so amazing. We

495
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Speaker 1: had a lot to drink um. But there's like coolest

496
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Speaker 1: people in wine country were just it's like heaven'tly. Yeah,

497
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: it's vibes are We have our own wine called Bonita

498
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 1: Bonita and so um. This Thursday, actually we're bottling up

499
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Speaker 1: our reserve chardonnay. Send send some to Serenie so we

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00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: can so we can share some love. Oh yeah, we

501
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: would love to send you some. It's so good and

502
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: yummy stuff. Yeah, and gosh, what else I mean I

503
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: feel like that's I've been building a home out here

504
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: that's almost done. I mean it start off as a

505
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: remodel turned into a build and who does that in

506
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: the pandemic when ports close out? Yeah? We unfortunately we

507
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: did it too. So yeah, did you Okay, didn't you

508
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: think it was gonna be like some quick thing. I'm like,

509
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: no one else is. Yeah, I did, but that quickly,

510
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 1: that dream quickly died. Yeah. Um. One of my favorite

511
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: experiences with my daughter was up in Wine Country or

512
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Speaker 1: close to it. We were staying at the Skywalker Ranch

513
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: over Christmas holiday because no one was there and so

514
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: we just had like access to the whole property minus staff, right,

515
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: And every single morning, my daughter and I would get

516
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: up and this is a big side quest that has

517
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: nothing to do with wrestling, but Napa is like so

518
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: beautiful in northern California's is such a magical place. But

519
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: we would walk every morning out in this huge meadow

520
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: and it was so cold that the grass was frozen,

521
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: and I still remember the sound of it, like crunching

522
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: under our feet and her little crunches with her little

523
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: feet and my big clunky feet crunching through. And she

524
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: would always make me make up stories, right, and she goes, Dad,

525
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: tell me, tell me a story. I go, well, what

526
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: do you want it to be about? She goes about

527
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: a samurai. I used to collect samurai sorts, and so

528
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: I told her I would had to make up a

529
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: story real quick, which I always liked doing. And it

530
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: was about this like samurai who had to protect the emperor,

531
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: and the emperor had a daughter but no son, and

532
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: the girls in Japan back then, they weren't allowed to

533
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: train with the katana blade. And she would always hide

534
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: in the forest and when the soldiers would train, she

535
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: would grab a stick and she would always like practice

536
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: their moves. And then one day she went to her

537
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: secret spot and instead of a stick, there was a

538
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: wooden sword there, and she like freaks out right and

539
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: she grabs the sword, and the story got a little

540
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: longer on each walk. And then the samurai the next

541
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: day was there and he says, hey, I'm going to

542
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: train you and teach you because I see how disciplined

543
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: you are. And she's training in secret with him, and

544
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: then her dad like later on, we were there for

545
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: a week, so the story got longer every time. Later on,

546
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: her poor dad dies and she has to go on

547
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: this like you know, quest to like find who killed

548
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: her father, and it was this whole thing. But when

549
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: anyone says nap, I literally go to that story. I

550
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: got chills on my arm right now, just because like

551
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: I need to be a movie, a children's book, a

552
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: children's book one day. Yeah, honestly, I'm like girls would

553
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: finish the story on this huge rock that was actually

554
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: in a Return of the Jedi when they did some

555
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: reshoots there, and we sat on the rock and as

556
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: the sun would get over the mountain, it would like

557
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: warm everything up and melt all the crunchy grass, and

558
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: then we would finally warm up, and then we'd go

559
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: get coffee for Sarah and bring herself little like coffee

560
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: in bed. She wasn't trying to do breakfast that early. Yeah. Yeah,

561
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: I love it up there. I'm so glad you guys

562
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: are up there. It's just peaceful, Yeah it is, and

563
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: you know it's full magical. Like even earlier this morning,

564
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: I was all my I would to workout, and the

565
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: fog was like right over the vineyards and you could

566
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: barely see the mountains, but it looked like I was

567
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: like on some set of like a spooky movie, but

568
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: in a Yeah, but it was it's just heavenly here.

569
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I told Bree, it's like now I go into cities

570
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: and I kind of get anxiety and I'm like, I

571
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: can't ever do a city again. Like you're definitely a farm,

572
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: You're a farm growing heart then for sure. Well yeah,

573
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean I smell manure and artum the other day

574
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: because they're fertilizing everything. And he's like, oh, what's that smm.

575
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's just maneuvers. It's great. I grew

576
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: up on how shit, So I'm like, this is this

577
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: is home. I like this, that's awesome. Well, you two

578
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: are amazing, and I'm like I said, it's not about

579
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: being proud. I'm just so thoroughly impressed by the two

580
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: of you and everything you've done. And you guys are

581
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: steamrollers when you have a goal in mind and nothing

582
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: can stop y'all, And I respect it so much. So

583
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys taking the time. Appreciate it very much.

584
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: And I got love for you. Thank you so much. Ready, Yes,

585
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: and y'all always love you. Yeah, And you're always a

586
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: part of just our careers and lives because we really

587
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: one of the ones who believed and pushing we tell

588
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: everyone like it's I hear it all the time. People

589
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: will be like, I met the Bells and oh my gosh,

590
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: they love it. I'm like, Yo, that's that's them, not me.

591
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: They I just it was cool to be a part

592
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: of your All's career in the early goings. Where can

593
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: everybody reach you? Please let the people know what's going down. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: Nicky night. Every Wednesday we release an episode of our podcast,

595
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: The Bells Podcast. We're Unfiltered and Very Wrong. We talk

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Speaker 1: about everything, and you can find out wherever you get

597
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: your podcast, and also if you follow us on social

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Speaker 1: media at the Nikki Bella at the Reballot Twitters, the

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Speaker 1: Ballot Twins, and you'll see our day to day lives

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Speaker 1: and how crazy we are. All right, everybody, thank you

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Speaker 1: for listening to Wrestling with Freddie. We'll be back next week.

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