1 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, Peeves, and welcome to wok F Daily with 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker, Folks, 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: you know. Over the weekend, I posted a tweet of 4 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: mine on Instagram and since that posting, it is up 5 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: to about like ninety three comments. And here's what I posted. 6 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: I posted in response to the White House making a 7 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: statement on the student protests that are happening at Columbia University, 8 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: and I wrote this at potus weighing in on the 9 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: rights of students to protest is not good. The way 10 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: that our democracy is being undermine all to uphold the 11 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: rights of another country to oppress without repercussions is unconscionable. 12 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: While I will continue to push for Dems, this makes 13 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: me sick. This is a piece of what the White 14 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: House's statement was quote. While every American has the right 15 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: to peaceful protest, calls for violence and physical intimidation targeting 16 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Jewish students and Jewish community are blietantly anti Semitic, unconscionable, 17 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: and dangerous. They have absolutely no place on any college 18 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: campus or anywhere in the United States of America. And 19 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: echoing the rhetoric of terrorist organizations especially in the wake 20 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: of the worst massacre committed against the Jewish people since 21 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: the Holocaust, is despicable. We condemn these statements in the 22 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: strongest terms. That is not what is happening at Columbia. 23 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: Students have set up tents that were forcibly removed by police. 24 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: The university has decided to criminalize the act of protests 25 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: and bring on police and the FBI. We are seeing 26 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: students be thrown out of school for protesting against their 27 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: university's funds being sent to Israel. And the fact is 28 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: is that, like, while you can't control how other people 29 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: may protest outside of said university, and if there is 30 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: violence that has happened, and I know that there is, 31 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: and if there's intimidation that has happened, which I know 32 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: that it has, we have the right to protest. It 33 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: is said stated clearly in the Constitution. That does not 34 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: mean that you only have the right to protest when 35 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: your ideas align with my own. For instance, I have 36 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: reported on this show and on others that white supremacist 37 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: groups have been organizing and marching down city streets across 38 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: this country. Have they been arrested, No, they haven't, even 39 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: though by their sheer presence. They are trying to intimidate 40 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: and oppress those around them, but they're allowed to do 41 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: that because that is their constitutional fucking right. Do I 42 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: think it is gross and disgusting, apps of fucking lutely, 43 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: But do I want to live in a country that 44 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: says that only certain people have a right to protest? 45 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: No? 46 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: I fucking don't. And so once again to deny the 47 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: reality that six months after these horrific attacks started in October, 48 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: that over thirty thousand Palestinian peace people, children and women 49 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: have been fucking killed, that there has been absolutely a 50 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: breakaway from the Geneva Convention by Israel on a number 51 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: of occasions, that our tax dollars continue to go to 52 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: fund murder. It is not something that people are just 53 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: going to forget about. And I think that this administration 54 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: was thinking that, like with other foreign affairs and other incidents, 55 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: that Americans, after a little bit, would get tired and 56 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: just go back to business as usual. Well guess what 57 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: they fucking aren't. They're continuing to organize, they're continuing to protest, 58 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: they're continuing to march, They're continuing to use their voices 59 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: as thus given to them by the constitution of these 60 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: United States, and so for this administration to not fucking 61 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: get it that these young people are pissed and rightfully so. 62 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, you the only thing 63 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: that our politicians seem to want to agree about is 64 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: the banning of TikTok, which is an organizing tool and 65 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: an information tool for this generation and others. You can't 66 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: agree on an assault rifles ban, you can't agree on 67 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: affordable housing, you can't agree on a child tax credit, 68 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: but you all get together and want to agree on Oh, 69 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: TikTok is dangerous. Give me a fucking break. You look stupid, 70 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: and this generation sees it. But you want their vote 71 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: in less than two hundred days, but are in take 72 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: their demand seriously whatsoever? And instead are equating the grief 73 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: and heartache that they have with watching a genocide unfold 74 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: on their screens and saying that because their hearts are breaking, 75 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: that they're sympathizing with terrorists. Give me a fucking break now. 76 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: While I said in my statement that I will continue 77 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: to support Democrats because I know what a final Trump 78 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: administration will do to our democracy into this country, this 79 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: administration is continually making it more and more difficult for 80 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: me to do so, and I know that if I 81 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: have difficulty, then I know that there are lots of 82 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: folks that do and that instead of swallowing it, we'll 83 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: just decide to stay home. So at some point the 84 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: Biden administration needs to decide what is more important to 85 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: them met and Yahoo or our democracy, because two things 86 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: can't exist at the same fucking time. Coming up next, 87 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: my conversation with the co host of my other show, 88 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: Democracy Ish author and columnist, activist, speaker, brilliant mind Waja 89 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: hot Ali, where we get into this conversation and much more, Folks, 90 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: I am so excited to welcome back to WOKF Daily, 91 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 1: my co host over at the other eleven thousand pod 92 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: that I do democracy Ish Wajahat a Lee who is 93 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: the author of Go Back To Where You Came From. 94 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: He is a writer, he is a speaker, he is 95 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: a prolific tweeter. Waj We are we are in extraordinary times. 96 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: We are living in extraordinary times. I think it was 97 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Charlotte Klember on social media who said I miss living 98 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: in non historic times, and I said I would like 99 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: to go back to precedented times. I sat on a 100 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: couch with a friend as we watched the drones from 101 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: Iran enter over the dome in Israel, and we're sitting 102 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: there and we're watching this happen in real time, and 103 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, Holy shit, is this it? What 104 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: were you thinking as you're watching this? And it's been, 105 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, several days since, But is this it? Is 106 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: this the beginning of World War three? Have we been 107 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: in the beginning of it for some time? What are 108 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: your reactions? 109 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: I had two thoughts which I held at the same 110 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: time that might appear to be completely opposite. Is number one, 111 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: it revealed the tinderbox that is the Middle East and 112 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: how all will take is one moment, one flash of violence, 113 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: to potentially God forbid, trigger an international crisis, you know, 114 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: which is oftentimes how world wars begin, right because multiple 115 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: actors with their own because each actor, each state, actor, 116 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: has their own interests, and they'd always align with the 117 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: United States, folks. And so you saw a retaliation by 118 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: Iran for Israel's strike that we don't talk about because 119 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: Israel also struck the world's central kitchen convoy and killed 120 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: seven people, but we talked about it on another podcast 121 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: that Israel had also that weekend struck the Iranian embassy 122 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: in Syria and killed a leading Iranian general. So naturally, 123 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: when it comes to these two reckless actors, they have 124 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: to save face. So even though as a tinderbox was 125 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: about to potentially explode, I also said on the X 126 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 2: or the Twitter, whatever the hell this neo Nazi website 127 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: is called, that this is going to be highly dangerous, 128 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: reckless theater. My prediction was that Iran has to save 129 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: face because their embassy got attacked by Israel, a highly 130 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: provocative act that, by the way, our national security experts 131 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: said that would not only increase threat assessment for Israel 132 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: but also the United States. So we were just sitting 133 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: there in pens Needo. How will Iran respond? So Iran 134 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: sent these drones, these slow moving drones that took six 135 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 2: hours to get there, which was kind of a signal 136 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: Danielle that like, yep, hey, we're sending these drones. They 137 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: will arrive in six hours. And then later on Iran said, okay, 138 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: we're done, which just goes to show you that in 139 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: order to then save face and show that it has 140 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: responded to Israel, it sent this provocative act which made 141 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: the rest of us be like, holy crap, what's happening right? 142 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: And def Con like Defcon three and everyone's tweeting World 143 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: War three, And then you're sitting there thinking to yourself, 144 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: why oh why has the Biden administration allowed unconditional aid 145 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: to this reckless rogue actor named Netan Yahoo that has 146 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 2: always for nearly two decades wanted war champion the war 147 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: came to America and said, warrant Remember that we're old 148 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: enough to remember. He was one of the champions of 149 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: the failed warran Terror. One of the worst foreign policy 150 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 2: decisions of our lifetime, for sure, but perhaps in modern 151 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: US history, in which US democracy did not blow him 152 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: Across the Middle East. We invaded Iraq, invaded Aganistan. It 153 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: was a complete pluster. F who loved it? Nen Yaho? 154 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: And what would nan Yaho? And the warhawks love nothing 155 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: more than to eliminate Iran. Iran and Israel not suicidal actors, 156 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: even though they're dangerous and reckless. But the rest of 157 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: US are held hostage by this crisis. And the United 158 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: States because it is the number one partner of Israel, 159 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,359 Speaker 2: because it gives financial aid to Israel, because it gives weapons, 160 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: is still giving weapons to Israel, because Without US support, 161 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: Israel cannot continue occupying Gaza of the West Bank or 162 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: continue its war. I ask myself, Joe Biden, is it 163 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: worth it? Is it worth it to your reputation, to 164 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: your legacy, to your election chances, to humanitarian cause, to 165 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: global security, to keep with unconditional aid supporting Netanyahu, a 166 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: guy who literally wants you to lose. Who's struck not 167 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: just the World Central Kitchen which killed an American, also 168 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 2: Al Shaffah hospital no one talks about, and also the 169 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: Iranian embassy And we knew the second day they did it. Whoops, 170 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: this is going to be threatening for US and Israel. 171 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 2: Iran responded. Everyone else is like, holy shit, this is 172 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: World War three. And then everyone's like, oh, don't worry, 173 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: it's no, it's not world War three. We're okay? Are 174 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: we okay? Do you feel better? Are you calm? 175 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Do I feel better? Do I feel colm? 176 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: No? 177 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: Would be the answer to that. And I think that 178 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: you know what else, I noticed as we were all 179 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: watching and hashtag world War three was trending. And I 180 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this. I'm gonna assume that 181 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: you did. Wash the comments from Americans for the first 182 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: time about Iran. We're not talking about Iran as our 183 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: mortal enemy. The comments in the comments section that I 184 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: saw on Instagram on TikTok said, so who has the 185 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: right to defend themselves? There you go and I and 186 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this was posted on people one of people, 187 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: one of one of No, no, no, this was this 188 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: was it was? It was Iran sends drones to Israel. 189 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: Was posted on a site called the Shade Room, which 190 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: is largely a black entertainment and culture site on Instagram 191 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: and occasionally they post news and politics and just kind 192 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: of put it up there, and then I go to 193 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: see what folks are thinking, and it was black folks 194 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,119 Speaker 1: that said, well, who has a right to defend themselves? 195 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: Israel attacked Ron first, like they just attack their embassy, 196 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: so don't they have the right to respond in kind. 197 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: This was the first time was in my life that 198 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm seeing Americans ask a very real question about the 199 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: actions of who has been labeled one of our most 200 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: dangerous adversaries. What do you make of that? 201 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: The conversation around Israel has radically shifted in a way 202 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: that I have not seen in my entire life, and 203 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: it's thanks to not just pousting and activists, Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, 204 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: but like you said, people of color, black folks, and 205 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: also young people. And I think the majority of the 206 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: world that is witnessing an ongoing genocide. And if you 207 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: don't like the word genocide, collective punishment, war crimes, unjust, unfair, unbalanced, 208 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: cruelty against Palestinians, which has claimed the lives of thirty 209 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: three thousand Palestinians, mostly civilians, injured more than seventy thousand. 210 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: And when we say the word injured, Daniel, you know, 211 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: oftentimes when we talk about injuries, you kind of just 212 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: casually say, oh, just injuries. We're talking about amputations, kids 213 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: without limbs, right, people who we don't even know if 214 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: they're going to survive, right who. Now we're seeing starvation 215 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: and famine for the population of Gaza, displacement, and we're 216 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: seeing what we saw the deaths of humanitarians, the just 217 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: blatant murders, journalists, murder of WCK World Central Kitchen Convoy 218 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: that was working in conjunction with Israel still wasn't safe. 219 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: Shepherds who were just killed today, like you know, just 220 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: just murdered by Israel. And then the question then comes 221 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: to folks, well, who has the right to self defense? 222 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: Don't the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves? If 223 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: this was happening to me, what do you do? Do 224 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 2: you just die? And I think black folks in particular 225 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: in this country, right, resisting white supremacy has always been 226 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: met with civility. Right, don't use violence. You can never 227 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: use violence, even if for being whipped and enslaved and 228 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: killed and lynched. Okay, you can't arm yourself, God forbid 229 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: if you do that. Buying panthers did it. And then 230 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: the NRA for the first time, teaming up with Ronald 231 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 2: reg and the governor of California, said oh, let's have 232 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: gun control. 233 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: So no arm are you in an American city like 234 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: they did in Philadelphia in the nineteen eighties, Go ahead, 235 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: can do that. 236 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: No problem. Tanks rolling through the streets, right, Tulsa. So 237 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 2: you can't use violence, got it? Can't protest, can't march 238 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: and literally Supreme Court now is suggesting that you can't 239 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: have mass protests in three states. Okay, got it. Can't 240 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: say black lives matter, So can't say some words or 241 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: wear some t shirts that offend the economic anxiety of 242 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: folks got it. Can't silently kneel during the national anthem. 243 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: Can't do that because if you do that, you get 244 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: black balled, your NFL career is gone, and then your 245 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: jerseys are burned. So the only option that you have 246 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: is to just die, just take it and die. And 247 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: I think, Danielle, that's why you're seeing, especially with black 248 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: people and people of color, indigenous people, and especially young people, 249 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: they're finally asking themselves, first and foremost, why are we 250 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: giving unconditional aid to an ally that does not act 251 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 2: like an ally, acts like an enemy? Come on, what 252 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: interest is it of the United States to expose itself 253 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: and expose Americans to a reckless like Like people are 254 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: finally asking, wait, why are we giving money to Israel? 255 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: Like how does this help me? How does this help 256 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: the United States? It doesn't like what's the what's the answer? 257 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: Can you tell me the answer? I have a tough 258 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: tough time coming with the answer. 259 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: Like, here's what I'm told in response, because I say 260 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: these things, and I say them, you know, I say 261 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: them on air, I say them in you know, in 262 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: conversation with friends. But what I'm told I said, So 263 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: what happens if the United States decides not to just 264 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: continue writing a blank check to Israel. What if there 265 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: is actually God forbid some conditions that are put in place, 266 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: that require humanitarian aid, that require pathways, that require a 267 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: two state solution, that require like all of these things. 268 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: And folks tell me was that the United States will crumble. 269 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: That without the security that has been created around Israel 270 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, that everything that we know to 271 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: be true will vanish. That without the United States securing Israel, 272 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: then all bets are off. That's what I'm told. 273 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 2: You call the security the rise in anti Semitism, the 274 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: rise in Islamophobia. You call the security where because of 275 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: israel reckless attack on Iranian embassy, the threat assessment against 276 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: the United States has increased. You call the security where 277 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: world nations are angry at the United States for being 278 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: the number one supporter of Israel during its occupation and 279 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: siege of Gaza. What security you call this security? You 280 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: call this friendship when at present buying the most powerful 281 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: person on earth, the commander in chief of our country, 282 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: says I believe in a two state solution, and the 283 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 2: next state Nanio says, no, I don't believe in two 284 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 2: state solution. When Biden says there should be no more 285 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: settlements in the West Bank, in Israel says he there's 286 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: gonna be thirty four hundred new settlements in the West Bank. 287 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: Where President Biden says, hey, hey, reduce the civilian casualties, 288 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: and NANNIEO says, eh, I'm going to kill the WCK 289 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: kitchen staff, which includes an American, And hey, this happens 290 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: in war? What security? What respect? What mutual reciprocity is 291 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: there in this relationship? What do we get out of it? 292 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 2: Why are my tax payer dollars going to the occupation 293 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: of Palestinians and to the bombing of Palestinians which is 294 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: increasing world hatred against America and also in Muslim majority 295 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: countries we have seen going back to the war and 296 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: terror that one of the grievances that people like Osama 297 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: Milan al Kaya the ISIS have used against the United 298 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: States is exactly this, the support for Israel AND's occupation. 299 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: So if anything, it emboldens our enemies against us. Tell 300 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: me how it helps, Tell me how it helps. 301 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell you. I can't tell you 302 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: because I agree with everything that you just said. So 303 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: like I can't tell you, Daniel. 304 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: I think it's madness for any country to be given 305 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: unconditional aid. No country is given unconditional aid except Israel. 306 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: That's absurd. That's like saying, I'm gonna give you these rockets. 307 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: You could go blow up kids unconditional aid, Like why, 308 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: But with Israel unconditional aid, you know, iron clad support. 309 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: That's what President Biden said a few days ago, and. 310 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: That's what Vice President Howris repeated, iron clad support. 311 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: And I'm like why, And then people are finally asking 312 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: why why unconditional support for a reckless actor named Benjamin 313 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: Naniah who in an extremist government that have shown nothing 314 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: but contempt towards you, President Biden, your administration, your policies, 315 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: and also to humanitarian aid, to democracy, to justice, like 316 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: the person who is his National security minister. For those 317 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: who don't know, is Itamar ben Gavier? An extremist according 318 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: to Israel standards, who's giving out machine guns to settlers, 319 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: and who's openly saying, you know, President Trump would be 320 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: better than Biden and is openly saying, yeah, we want 321 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: it all, we want everything river to the sea completely. 322 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: In contrast to the alleged policies of President Biden, and 323 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 2: you know, it reminds me of this. It's like I 324 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: think maybe Biden is a masochist at heart, and I 325 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: don't want to kink shame that like Nan Yahoo just 326 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: like slaps him around and Biden says, thank you, might 327 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 2: have another. But what it does is it makes Biden 328 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 2: look weak. It weakens him before a monumental election where 329 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: I think you and I agree that our democracy is 330 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: at stake. As you and I have said on our 331 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: other podcast, Democracy Ish that this will end up hurting 332 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: him with some Democratic voters. And when you and I 333 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: say it, no one listens. But when white dudes say 334 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: they will. There's an article out in the Atlantic this 335 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: week showing exactly that that this issue now Democrats are 336 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: afraid might hurt them in the upcoming election. And it's 337 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: not just Muslims and Arabs. 338 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this too, with regard to 339 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: the continued coverage and what we're seeing in mainstream media 340 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: and in cable news, because what I thought was really 341 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: interesting as I was watching the drones as you were 342 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: a couple of weekends ago head to Israel, I noticed 343 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: who wasn't on air during their hour and that was 344 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: Aim in Mohedeen and instead on MSNBC it was Jose 345 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: Diaz Bolart and I thought to myself, and I go 346 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: on Jose's show. I enjoy Jose, but you know what, 347 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: I know, he's not an expert in the Middle East. 348 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: You know what I know that he is not is 349 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: somebody that has been doing correspondence in that part of 350 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: the world for their entire career, like Am and Mohedeen. So, 351 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, I want to ask you, you know, your 352 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: thoughts on the invisibilizing that is happening to prominent Muslims 353 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: on air and what we need to make of that 354 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: and what we need to say about that. 355 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: So, I mean, you know, I'm glad you asked this 356 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: question because I saw Aman briefly yesterday at the launch 357 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 2: of Zeteo, which is the new media company launched by 358 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: maybe Husson and maythe Husson for those of you who 359 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: don't know, used to be was the best interviewer MSNBC had, 360 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: I would say, the best interviewer on cable news. And 361 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: he was let go, his show was canceled and essentially 362 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: then he got out of his contract. He can't talk 363 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: about it right now. But I can openly say that 364 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: it was due to pressure from outside groups due to 365 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: his coverage on Guzin and so he saw maybe Husson 366 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: get canceled. People are forgetting that the cancelation attempts against 367 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: not just Maylie but also Oli Velshi and I am 368 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 2: at MSNBC where some groups are calling them Hamas propagandists. 369 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: You're seeing people anyone who's pro Palestini didn't get canceled. 370 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 2: Even Jewish Americans like Jonathan Glazer, the one the director 371 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: who won four Zona of Interest the Academy Award, who 372 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: gave a very beautiful humanitarian speech, he got canceled, right, 373 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 2: And you just saw. This is coming out in a 374 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 2: few days. But you just saw, and I think you're 375 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: going to see more and more coverage of the USC 376 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: commencement speaker. I don't know if you've heard about this Danielle. 377 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: Her name is Asneta Bassom, and USC and their cowardice 378 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 2: canceled her speedch citing quote unquote security concerns without mentioning 379 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: any security concern. And essentially she's a sweet like young, 380 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: brown skinned Hijabi girl who minored in resistance to genocide, 381 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: and essentially what people are saying is they were afraid 382 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: that during her valedictorian speech she might talk about what's 383 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: happening in Gaza, so they canceled her speech. Talked me 384 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: about cancel culture, Danielle, Talk to maybe about free you know, 385 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: free speech. Talk to me about forget safe spaces, the 386 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 2: marketplace of ideas, all this bullshit right wing talking points 387 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: that Ben Shapiro talks about. I haven't seen them coming 388 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: to defense with mayde Hussan. I haven't seen them come 389 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 2: of the defense of us. I haven't seen the come 390 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: to the defense of Iman. Why is that, Danielle, Why 391 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: is that? Hmm? Free speech ends with Palestine. 392 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that free speech is contention upon 393 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: your complexion, and that that is something that has always 394 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: been the case in the United States, is that when 395 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: you start to advocate for yourself, for your group, for 396 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: other marginalized communities, if you do not have the complexion 397 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: for the protection, then you are canceled or assassinated, which 398 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: is you know, another piece right, like we don't when 399 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: we talk about the humanitarian workers that have been killed, 400 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: hundreds that have been killed in Gaza, well we're not 401 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: talking about are the hundreds journalists that have been killed 402 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: in their families that have been killed and targeted, right. 403 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: And so while we're not currently in the business of 404 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: killing journalists in this country, what we are doing is 405 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: killing careers and killing character. And I think that that 406 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,479 Speaker 1: is worthy of discussion because what they are trying to 407 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: do is make an example of these people, right in 408 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: saying that if you open up your mouth right in 409 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: a certain way and in a certain frame, and we 410 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: can't trust what it is that you're going to say, 411 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: so we're going to remove you, right. And so this 412 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: is when, in all honesty, I call on white allies, right, 413 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: who people who continually ask, you know, what can I do? 414 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: What can I do? I call on white allies to 415 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: be the fucking shield for the people who are getting canceled, right, 416 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: and to lift those people up and to have those 417 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 1: conversations and to be provocative and to use their names 418 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: and their voices and their power for those that are made 419 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: an example of. 420 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: Can I give you a quote just to articulate exactly 421 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 2: what you said, because they're admitting it, like the Bond 422 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 2: villains that they are. Christopher Ufo, the right wing activist 423 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: who has gone after CRT and diversity, he used this quote, 424 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: and so did Elise Stephanic after they railroaded Claudine Gay, 425 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: who was the first black president of Harvard Law School. 426 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: They said, we have a scalp. We have a scalp, 427 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: and we want more scalps. That's exactly it. We got 428 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: the scalp, and then you raise the scalp and you say, see, see, 429 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: this is what happens. And then they raise it like 430 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: trophy is like the predator. And so what I tell 431 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: folks is, Okay, you might have gotten your short term victory, 432 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: but this is a pyrrhic victory, Danielle and bring things 433 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: back full circle. People have woken up. People have realized 434 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 2: that wait a second, this is not the only democracy 435 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: in the Middle East. This seems like an occupying, brutal 436 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: country whose policies are demonied Palestinian people who need self 437 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: determination and freedom, And why is my money paying for 438 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: what most people now are saying is an ongoing genocide? 439 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: And the polls that are released as of this week 440 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: is that Biden and n Yah who have lost independence 441 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 2: in this country. So not just democrats, even independents are like, yo, 442 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: why are we supporting this? Like there should be a ceasefire. 443 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: So I'm curious, Danielle, as this war goes on, and 444 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: the last thing I'll say is nen Yaho needs this war. 445 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: He's a deeply unpopular prime minister. Seventy five percent of 446 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 2: the country wants him out. If this war stops, he 447 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 2: will be forced to resigned. So it's in his interest 448 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: for this war to go on. It's in his interest 449 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: for Iran to retaliate, because then it whitewashes his sins 450 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 2: and Gaza right, the media complex here will just concentrate 451 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: on the news of the day and forget about, you know, 452 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: the thirty three thousand dead Palestinians. The question is how 453 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: much will Biden give up for a man who mocks him, 454 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: ridyicules him, humiliates him, and aggressively wants him to lose 455 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: the election. How much will Biden give up? And how 456 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: come Biden, who has shown some nimbleness in changing in 457 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: other aspects of his career, right in his policies. Wise, 458 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: he's so ensconced and entrenched in his defense of Naniehu 459 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 2: in Israel as it's committing what many say is an 460 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: ongoing genocide. That will be the question that he will 461 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: have to answer. And I think there will be a 462 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: cost if he does not answer that question in a 463 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: way that moves us toward a seiz fire and peace. 464 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: That's my prediction. 465 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: Oh, my friend, well, we will have to leave it 466 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: there today. But that is in fact the question that 467 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: is on the table for this administration, but for our democracy. 468 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: At what cost? What cost will it take for the 469 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: iron clad grip to cease? Thank you, my friend, for 470 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: making the time for will k F. I always appreciate you. 471 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: That is it for me today. Dear friends on woke 472 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: app as always, power to the people and to all 473 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.