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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition, Clake Travis, Buck

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Speaker 1: Sex that show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We are six days from the.

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Speaker 2: New Hampshire primary. What do we expect?

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Speaker 1: What do the remaining contenders, Nicky Hayley and Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 1: actually won.

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Speaker 2: We will discuss.

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Speaker 1: Tommy Tuberville, Senator from Alabama, joins us at two thirty

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Speaker 1: Eastern time. So many different moving parts. The battle in

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire is ongoing, plus major Supreme Court case. Buck

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Speaker 1: is even going to nerd out like he's a law

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Speaker 1: school law review participant. That should be fun.

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Speaker 3: Also, there is no I want everyone to get their

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Speaker 3: pocket protectors ready.

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Speaker 2: My friends.

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Speaker 1: There is no one kidnapped. Buck has got a puppy

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Speaker 1: at his feet. I can hear Ginger yelping a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I just want you all to know, if you hear yelping,

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Speaker 1: no one has been kidnapped. Although I will point out

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Speaker 1: we are now having another snow day. It's like the

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Speaker 1: third straight. I guess Martin Luther King Day was a holiday.

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Speaker 1: But Tuesday and Wednesday all my kids are home and

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Speaker 1: I just want to also let you know, in addition

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Speaker 1: to the yelping you may get from a dog, my

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Speaker 1: boys are directly downstairs from my studio playing Madden, and

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Speaker 1: they scream and they yell and they fight like wild

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Speaker 1: band cheese. All that plus Buck, I watched the nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighties movie last night that I had not seen in

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Speaker 1: thirty some odd years, Crocodile Dundee. At some point we

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Speaker 1: may have some fun with that. The kids absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with this question for you.

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Speaker 1: I think you are in agreement with me that in

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Speaker 1: the wake of Donald Trump's thirty point win, he has

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Speaker 1: effectively locked up the Republican nomination. Vivek Ramaswami acknowledge that

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Speaker 1: gets seven point seven percent of the vote, he has

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Speaker 1: endorsed Trump. Will play a little bit of that audio

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Speaker 1: at a rally last night during the course of the show.

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Speaker 1: That means that Trump now has two contenders remaining in

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Speaker 1: this race. Ron DeSantis, who both you and me believe

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Speaker 1: is the best governor in the country. He got everything

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Speaker 1: right on COVID, but the Republican electorate did not respond

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Speaker 1: to him in Iowa, and Nicki Hayley, who is been

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Speaker 1: out of office for a while, but basically is staking

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Speaker 1: her claim on I'm gonna win New Hampshire or be close,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna win South Carolina. So I want

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Speaker 1: to give you a thesis. I want to see how

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Speaker 1: you would analyze this. Nicki Haley staying in the race

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Speaker 1: makes sense to me because Nicki Haley would love to

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Speaker 1: be vice president. She won't deny that she would take it.

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Speaker 1: Trump seems to be flirting with the idea a bit

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Speaker 1: in that he has not totally dismissed it, and she

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Speaker 1: still think she can win New Hampshire and she is

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Speaker 1: holding out hope that she can make a play in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. So I don't buy the logic of Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley's campaign, but I understand it. Okay, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis right now. Pole came out from the Boston

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Speaker 1: Globe and Suffolk University. I believe this morning Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: fifty percent, Nicky Haley thirty four percent, Ron DeSantis five percent.

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Speaker 1: Now they're still around ten percent of people who are undecided,

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Speaker 1: and people can shift and there can be Republicans come in,

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Speaker 1: there can be Independents come in. If I were advising

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Speaker 1: DeSantis right now, I think you and I both agree, Buck,

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Speaker 1: that DeSantis does not want to be vice president.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: DeSantis wants anything to do with any kind of cabinet position.

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Speaker 1: I think he believes governor of Florida is a bigger

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Speaker 1: and more prestigious deal. Okay, And by the way, you

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Speaker 1: guys can react out there are eight hundred and two

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Speaker 1: two two eight two. It seems to me that the

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Speaker 1: best way for DeSantis to maintain his political viability going

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Speaker 1: forward on a national scale is to kick ass as

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Speaker 1: governor for the remaining two years of his term and

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Speaker 1: then run for the presidency again, potentially if he wants

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Speaker 1: to do it in the twenty twenty eight cycle, and

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Speaker 1: if he endorses Trump and becomes a good soldier and says, hey,

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Speaker 1: it is important that Trump beat Biden. Certainly a lot

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Speaker 1: of you out there would have preferred DeSantis. But what

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Speaker 1: basically analyze this do you agree with? I can't figure it,

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Speaker 1: Nikki Haley makes sense to me. I can't figure out

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Speaker 1: the DeSantis plan, Buck, unless it is Hey, there's going

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Speaker 1: to be lawfair, Something's going to happen in the court system.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court's going to do something, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to stay in and wait and see if that happens.

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Speaker 3: So the thing about that last option is we know

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Speaker 3: that Ron, I mean, that can't be the official strategy, right,

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Speaker 3: meaning implicitly said, you're never going to have anyone who says, hey,

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Speaker 3: Ron staying in this thing just in case the Democrats

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: So that's one possibility there that that it's really about. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: no one is kidnapped.

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Speaker 2: No one is kidnapped. It's a puppy.

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Speaker 3: She's usually so quiet, she sits under the desk during

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Speaker 3: the show most days. I don't know how many of

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Speaker 3: you have raised a puppy recently. But you know, she's

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Speaker 3: decided that she's been good for too long. So anyway

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Speaker 3: back to the so now she's being naughty. Back to

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Speaker 3: the news. Uh, here's what I here's what I think

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Speaker 3: that the challenge for DeSantis in terms of the timing

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Speaker 3: here for Wall Street Journal, do we mentioned they've called

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Speaker 3: on him to drop Yeah, so there are there are

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Speaker 3: a whole slew of Ted Cruz.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we'll play that audio came out and

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Speaker 1: endure He's I mean a lot of his people work

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Speaker 1: in the Desantas campaign, so that's not insignificant, said he

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Speaker 2: He has formally endorsed Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: And said that that that Desanta should drop out. CNN

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Speaker 3: is no longer even holding primary debate in New Hampshire

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Speaker 3: because DeSantis right now is the only one who has

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Speaker 3: accepted the invitation.

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Speaker 2: Think about that.

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Speaker 1: So just his credit. He's willing to talk and debate.

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Speaker 1: I give credit to DeSantis for that.

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Speaker 3: And the truth of the matter is for DeSantis, first

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Speaker 3: of all, I would tell CNN, look, I should be

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Speaker 3: able to get a towent hall out of this, right like,

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Speaker 3: if I'm willing to show up, you know, I'm not

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Speaker 3: canceling the dinner date. You guys should make good on this.

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Speaker 3: Nicky Haley is staying in it because there's no downside

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Speaker 3: for Nicky Haley. She's not in office right so it's

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Speaker 3: not like she has some other job to go back to.

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Speaker 3: Haley is tied with Trump in New Hampshire, and for her,

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Speaker 3: the the fees for speaking and for ghosts written books,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, just go up if she wins New Hampshire.

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Speaker 3: So as a brand proposition. As a brand proposition, Nicky

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Speaker 3: Haley I think continues on certainly through New Hampshire. The

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Speaker 3: question is does she stop before South Carolina? Because that

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Speaker 2: To Nicki Haley, we agree on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to work through if you're and I'm

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Speaker 1: curious if you guys have have thought processes on this

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Speaker 1: as well. And I'm missing something on DeSantis when the

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Speaker 1: poll comes out this morning and it says that he

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Speaker 1: has five percent of the support in New Hampshire, unless

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Speaker 1: this is the worst pole ever, and remember all of

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Speaker 1: the Iowa polls ended up correct. Right, everybody out there

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Speaker 1: who's saying, oh the poles are rigged, they don't make sense.

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Speaker 1: Iowa polls nearly identical to what the final results were.

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Speaker 1: So Desandra is going to have to fight tooth and

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Speaker 2: Be nowhere near Haley or Trump. What is the game

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Speaker 2: plan here?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I can think is that

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Speaker 1: they are believing that some lawfair may happen and they're

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Speaker 1: not going to drop out as a result in the

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Speaker 2: We have to.

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Speaker 3: Remember that there's there's what's what's sensible in this campaign?

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Speaker 3: What's sensible for their long term political viability, their political brand,

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Speaker 3: if you will. And then there's also that thing that

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Speaker 3: it's hard to judge but critical to keep in mind,

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Speaker 3: ego and the desire to keep going, and the desire

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Speaker 3: to stay in the fight even when it's looking like

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Speaker 3: you have no chance to win. And I think right

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Speaker 3: now for the DeSantis team and for Nicki Haley, well,

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Speaker 3: Nicki Haley, we've already discussed this clear why she's staying

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Speaker 3: in I'll also say it's funny that Viveke so I

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Speaker 3: think it was last summer saying Viveke is basically in

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Speaker 3: the race in order to provide additional air cover for

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Speaker 3: Trump's campaign by stopping attention from focusing on the people

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Speaker 3: that actually want to be president instead of Trump, namely

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Speaker 3: DeSantis and Haley. And I mean, Vivike got told he

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have a big role in my campaign, and

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Speaker 3: he drops out of New Hampshire. This is exactly what

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Speaker 3: we said was going to happen. That he's running as

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Speaker 3: an adjunct of the Trump campaign. Everyone's kind of talked

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Speaker 3: we technically speaking in terms of his skill and his

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Speaker 3: understanding of the media and his eloquence, whether you believe

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Speaker 3: it is all intended or not, I mean, or it

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Speaker 3: his eloquence and all that, Yes, that's exceptional. But he

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Speaker 3: dropped out after the first contest that endorsed Trump right away,

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Speaker 3: which is essentially what you would have assumed he would

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Speaker 3: do six months ago. Right, So there's really not much

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Speaker 3: any finished last in Iowa. So I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: any surprise with any of that for Ron.

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Speaker 2: You know, no one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's going to remember the prime like

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Speaker 3: this is the other part of this too.

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Speaker 2: We're so focused in on this right now.

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Speaker 3: Is anyone even going to remember how Ron does in

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Speaker 3: this primary in the next presidential election cycle?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. The donors might.

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Speaker 1: Donors might if you gave one hundred million dollars of

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Speaker 1: money to Ron DeSantis and he lost by thirty in

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Speaker 1: Iowa and then he lost by forty in New Hampshire,

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Speaker 1: it might make you less excited to donate in twenty

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Speaker 1: eight where if you yeah, I was gonna.

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Speaker 3: Say, I mean, if you wrote a check for ten

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Speaker 3: million dollars to a Ron super pack. Let's just say,

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Speaker 3: don't get any ideas, but if you did that, what

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Speaker 2: Want him to do at this point? Though?

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Speaker 3: Would you want him to run through the tape even

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Speaker 3: though he's a lap behind?

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Speaker 2: The next thing? You know?

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Speaker 1: The first Let me just say this, if I had

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Speaker 1: a billion dollars, I would have given Ron DeSantis ten

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Speaker 1: million dollars because he got everything right on COVID. And

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if I had a billion dollars, because I

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Speaker 1: think you should reward politicians who get things right, and

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Speaker 1: nobody got more right on COVID. And I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this some this morning as I was getting ready. Buck,

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Speaker 1: You and I are both super frustrated that there's been

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Speaker 1: no reckoning on COVID, And I jotted down a note

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Speaker 1: to myself, why is that right?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Why did Kentucky re elect a COVID tyrant in a

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Speaker 1: red state? Andy Basheer gets re elected. My theory is

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Speaker 1: twenty five percent of people got COVID right. That is,

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Speaker 1: we shouldn't have locked down, shouldn't have shut down schools,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have worn masks. You and me were in that

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Speaker 1: We've underestimated him.

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Speaker 3: No, they're gonna find something. Right, They're gonna say, oh, well,

438
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Speaker 3: it's down compared to some other year. And what I'm saying, Clay,

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Speaker 3: isn't that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right now, maybe people are talking about it. But once

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Speaker 3: New Hampshire. What do you think they're gonna say in

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Speaker 3: New Hampshire? Oh, my gosh, Nikki. First of all, NICKI

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Speaker 3: Haley may win New Hampshire. It will mean nothing, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean didn't correct You go back and look at

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Speaker 3: other other cycles. I think pat U can in one

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Speaker 3: New Hampshire back in ninety six, right, So John McCain.

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Speaker 1: Beat Bush in two thousand in New Hampshire. So beat

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama in two thousand and eight. Remember after she cried,

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Speaker 1: she came back and won New Hampshire turned it into

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Speaker 1: a big battle.

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Speaker 3: Did Bernie win New Hampshire back in twenty twenty for

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Speaker 3: the Democrats? I know, Pete Buddha Judge one eye was see.

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Speaker 3: But this is what I'm saying. We fell politics all

455
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Speaker 3: the time. You can't even keep all this stuff straight.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna have a narrative during the week of New

457
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Speaker 3: Hampshire where if Trump is first or second, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: be it's not enough. And then they're gonna have some

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Speaker 3: narrative when Trump runs the table on a bunch of

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Speaker 3: other states, which I think we all know is coming,

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Speaker 3: and he's gonna run the table by huge, huge numbers.

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Speaker 2: So you see what I mean. Like they're just I

463
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Speaker 2: think it's kind of sad. Their argument's kind of sad,

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Speaker 2: like they need to think. It's desperate.

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Speaker 1: It's also the argument that the DeSantis and Haley team

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Speaker 1: are making right now.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of sad, I think they're very sad, which.

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Speaker 1: Comes back around to I don't even think we got

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Speaker 1: a single call about it.

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Speaker 2: This is important, right.

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Speaker 1: I always say be careful how much attention you pay

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Speaker 1: to social media, because social media is a pen prick

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Speaker 1: of the actual electorate. And if you followed social media,

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Speaker 1: the Veke looked dominant on social media. He was incredibly

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Speaker 1: skilled and a droit at moving social media in his favor.

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Speaker 1: He got seven point seven percent in Iowa, which was

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Speaker 1: a very good performance. I think if you had said

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Speaker 1: when Viveke entered the race, hey, he's going to come

479
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Speaker 1: in fourth, that would have been a very good result.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of professional politicians that

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Speaker 1: Theveke outlasted, but well he created.

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Speaker 3: Hold on but on the Viveke than Clay. He created

483
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Speaker 3: this bubble of invincibility from MAGA attack because he was

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Speaker 3: basically running as an adjunct of the Trump campaign. Haley

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Speaker 3: and DeSantis and well Chris Christy not really that much

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Speaker 3: because it never really got any numbers. There's been there

487
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Speaker 3: have been millions and millions of dollars spent by Trump

488
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Speaker 3: packs and by the Trump campaign to smash those guys.

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Speaker 3: The worst that Vivey got was one tweet like he's

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Speaker 3: not MAGA, and then a day later, psych, he's MAGA.

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Speaker 2: I love him. We were just kidding. So you know, Look,

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Speaker 2: it's like what Vivek did.

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Speaker 3: On the one hand, I can see it as people

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Speaker 3: seeing it as as brilliant because he was able to

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Speaker 3: get as much as he did and as far as

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Speaker 3: he did without it. But he was only able to

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Speaker 3: do it because he wasn't really running to be president

498
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Speaker 3: and that was the and I said that all along

499
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Speaker 3: he wasn't running to be president, which was quite clear.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to go back again retrospectively. I

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Speaker 3: think this race is over right.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, what I wanted to say was

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Speaker 1: on Monday, sorry, Tuesday, we said, hey, if you think

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Speaker 1: the race is not over, call in. We got one

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Speaker 1: call on that issue from people saying the race not over.

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Speaker 1: What did I say to start the show today? How

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Speaker 1: do you want DeSantis to finish the race? The Dysantis

508
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Speaker 1: people have just thrown in the towel. Even the die

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Speaker 1: hearts that are listening to us right now, they're like,

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Speaker 1: it's over. I think the retroactive retrospective analysis of this

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Speaker 1: campaign is going to show one that you couldn't win

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Speaker 1: once Trump got indicted. I really think you couldn't win

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Speaker 1: unless you ran a perfect campaign. But I think the

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Speaker 1: data is going to reflect that if you wanted to win,

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Speaker 1: you had to go directly after Trump and throw punches

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Speaker 1: at him. And it seems to me that both Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley and DeSantis, who are the final candidates standing, we're

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Speaker 1: trying to have it both ways. They wanted Trump's supporters

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Speaker 1: to like them, but they never really went aggressively after

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Speaker 1: Trump enough to actually beat him. Now, Vivegue didn't even

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Speaker 1: go after him, right, The guy who actually went after

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Speaker 1: him was Chris Christy. He never had the actual he

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Speaker 1: was basically saying he's the best president since George Washington

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Speaker 1: or something. I mean, it's not just he didn't go

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Speaker 1: after him. And this is what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I again, I see the great sides of the vague.

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Speaker 3: I totally respect his skill, his acumen, his intelligence. On

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Speaker 3: a personal level, I like Viveke, but he wasn't running

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Speaker 3: for president. The whole thing was kind of it felt

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Speaker 3: a little scammy. Okay, he's running to be there on

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Speaker 3: behalf of the Maga campaign or of the Trump campaign

532
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Speaker 3: on stage swatting at other people. And it was brilliant

533
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Speaker 3: for him, like what he did for Viveke was totally effective.

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Speaker 3: But for a lot of us, I think we're sitting

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Speaker 3: here saying, okay, but if you do, you can't say

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Speaker 3: that someone's the best president in the history of the

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Speaker 3: Republic and they're running but you're also running.

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Speaker 1: I think that there was, Yeah, I think there was

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Speaker 1: a lane where, like Chris Christy basically just ran a

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Speaker 1: campaign that was Trump is evil. Stop Trump at all costs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stop Trump at all costs. That doesn't win, right. But

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Speaker 1: I think there was a lane and I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody hit it where you ran and said Trump is

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Speaker 1: not the right choice. I'm gonna rip Trump, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you why I'm the right choice. And I

546
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Speaker 1: don't think anybody actually ran that, right, Like, there there

547
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Speaker 1: is a lane where Trump was really good but his

548
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: time has passed. We got an old guy running, Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: But I think you don't even think that.

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Speaker 2: I don't look I I I think what iway.

551
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: Showed everybody is that it's still Trump's Republican Party, and

552
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Speaker 3: the party, by by substantial majority, does not want to

553
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Speaker 3: move on. They want to give him another shot. Now,

554
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Speaker 3: if that is macro level analysis, that is accurate, I

555
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Speaker 3: think a lot of this other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Is almost uh it's it's shoot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, no, I could could anything really have

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Speaker 3: to given the actual mood as we are seeing it

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Speaker 3: from the polls of the Republican primary electorate, Is anything

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Speaker 3: that any of these candidates could have done or would

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Speaker 3: have done, going to change that?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think it does.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see the multiverse where Trump never

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Speaker 1: gets charged. The ray if there are no charges that

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Speaker 1: are ever brought against Trump, I think is a totally

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Speaker 1: different race. I think as soon as Biden and his

567
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice and the State of New York charged Trump,

568
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Speaker 1: they opened up a situation where the rallying effect behind

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Speaker 1: Trump made it almost impossible for anybody else to win.

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Speaker 3: And here's the part of this that we all have

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Speaker 3: to understand. And I think I say this as motivation.

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Speaker 3: I say this as motivation for the Republican Party for

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Speaker 3: all the close races for the almost certain Trump reelect

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Speaker 3: campaign coming up. If the whole game was to indict

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Speaker 3: Trump so he could win, so then they could beat

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Speaker 3: him in the general and they pull that off, our

577
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Speaker 3: party should be ashamed, ashamed of how foolish we are.

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Speaker 3: So we have to make sure that that does not happen,

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Speaker 3: because if that does happen, we will have been out maneuvered, swindled,

580
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Speaker 3: and schooled by the Biden Pelosi Democrats. Just want to

581
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Speaker 3: go on record that is the truth right now, everybody.

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Speaker 3: So we better win this one because we will have

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Speaker 3: egg all of everyone who votes for Trump, everyone who

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Speaker 3: votes republic in this fall. If Biden ends up winning

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Speaker 3: and it's all because of these indictments, it's on us

586
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Speaker 3: for walking into the trap. So the answer here is,

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Speaker 3: of course Trump's gotta win. We just got to make

588
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Speaker 3: sure Trump wins. It's true, you know, I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you're right.

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Speaker 1: They have laid they did exactly what they wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: I think they made the calculated decision that if they

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Speaker 1: indicted Trump, it would make Trump the nominee, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of Trump people don't want to hear that Biden

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Speaker 1: wants to run against Trump.

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Speaker 3: If you do what I'm saying, that they've raised the

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Speaker 3: stake such that if Biden, let's just say, beats Trump,

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Speaker 3: it changes. If you're right and it turns into Michelle Obama,

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Speaker 3: well that's a whole other plan. Then the plan wasn't

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Speaker 3: really just the indictment.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think that I think they would

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Speaker 1: be acknowledging that the plan wasn't working and basically breaking

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Speaker 1: the glass for Michelle Obamas to play if.

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Speaker 3: They continue with Biden in this race. The plan was

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Speaker 3: always Biden v.

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Speaker 2: Trump.

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Speaker 3: Understand that now we need to own that if they

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Speaker 3: continue with Biden the race, which I think they will,

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Speaker 3: clay Thing's probably not. But that also means we need

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Speaker 3: to see that we will be as a party, as

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Speaker 3: a movement made to look like utter fools. If Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden is getting sworn in again, and you want to talk.

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Speaker 1: About four D chess, this would have been they set

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Speaker 1: down a couple of years out and said this is

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Speaker 1: what we're going to do. We're going to bring charges

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four like that. I really think that

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Speaker 1: is what they have decided to do. I think this

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Speaker 1: is a calculated decision, and now it's their faces. The

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Speaker 1: outcome determines the wisdom of the strategy.

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Speaker 2: You're correct.

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Speaker 3: The outcome determines the wisdom. So because man it is

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Speaker 3: if this, if that is anyway, we're motivated, We're gonna

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Speaker 3: get it done. Trump's gonna get it done. I gotta

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Speaker 3: say one thing that we haven't talked about very much.

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Speaker 3: Has Trump had a single in terms of just winning,

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Speaker 3: in terms of brute force politics of winning. Has he

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Speaker 3: had a single misstep really in his campaign?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 3: You know this past year, whether it was not debating

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Speaker 3: the different candidates, the whole the vake ploy all this,

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Speaker 3: I think the Trump campaign has actually shown a lot

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Speaker 3: of a lot of dexterity, the influencer campaign online keeping everybody,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like they they they're probably in.

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Speaker 1: I think the best thing that this is one thing

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Speaker 1: that I do think is blown up on democrats. I

636
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Speaker 1: think Trump not being on Twitter helps him immensely. I

637
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Speaker 1: really do, because the people who would otherwise be obsessed,

638
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Speaker 1: they're lazy, and they don't go to truth social.

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Speaker 3: They just funny, it's true, they have they have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Only the only people know it's on true Social or

641
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Speaker 3: Trump voters.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So he gets his message out without getting the

644
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Speaker 1: constant like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god, the world's gonna end. Yeah, see

646
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Speaker 2: claims voices too. Everybody.

647
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Speaker 3: If you disagree with anything, I want disagreement right now

648
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Speaker 3: on the calls eight hundred two two two eight a

649
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Speaker 3: two pick us apart, or you can call in to

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Speaker 3: talk about how Clay's German Doppelgangler.

651
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Speaker 2: Is so FONSI he's amazing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got caught a net guy's Instagram account. It was

653
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Speaker 1: like looking to a different novel yesterday. He blew up

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Speaker 1: the Internet with that thing yesterday. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in TA eight hundred two A

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Speaker 3: And also it's funny when I get text messages from

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Speaker 3: people saying is Ginger okay? Because I can hear.

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Speaker 2: Her over the radio. I mean, she's fine, he just

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Speaker 2: wants she.

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Speaker 1: Slowed down the barking after the first segment. She's gotten

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Speaker 1: more relaxed. I had to get her the proper toy.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing with puppies. She's very spoiled. We have

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Speaker 1: all these toys for her, but you would much rather

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Speaker 1: like climb atop the couch and grab a fancy dress, shoe,

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Speaker 1: of carries or something and then just rip it to

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Speaker 1: shreds can taste better than the twenty toys she has.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this. Can I just point out we're

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Speaker 1: into year three I think of the show. If we

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Speaker 1: go back to year one of Buck on the show

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Speaker 1: disgusted that kids could make noise on airplanes that he's

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Speaker 1: not connected to, and now he's totally fine with a

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Speaker 1: dog live on the air losing it a puppy like

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Speaker 1: he hasn't even gotten to the kid. He hasn't even

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Speaker 1: I said, very cute, He's very fluffy. Let's be serious here.

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Speaker 1: I get the kid's gonna be cute too, I guarantee.

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Speaker 1: I say, if you go back to the audio, I said, Buck,

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Speaker 1: as soon as you have kids, your opinion on kids

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Speaker 1: losing it on airplanes is going to completely change. Just

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Speaker 1: a puppy has already got you. Oh, it's just just

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Speaker 1: a little chirping during the show. Two years ago, you

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Speaker 1: would have lost your mind over a dog barking at

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Speaker 1: your feet during a show. I can neither confirm nor

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Speaker 1: deny this analysis.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: Move to the phone calls. Going to move to the

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Speaker 3: phone calls. We have Sean in New Jersey. What's up Sean?

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Speaker 3: Or Terrence in Florida? How about that?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Buck and Clay didohs you guys?

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Speaker 2: Jega did oh sir? Thank you?

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Speaker 4: You? Bet Okay. So, in conjunction with the Jamie Diamond

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Speaker 4: statement about the border, he also said, my heart is

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Speaker 4: a Democrat, my brain is a Republican. So my thought

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Speaker 4: was this, I said, Now you're a world banker. You

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Speaker 4: banked in Benzeuela, You've banked in Argentina. How can you

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Speaker 4: have compassion? Why do you think that there's any compassion

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Speaker 4: for socialism?

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Speaker 3: I can I tell you Terrence what he's what he's

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Speaker 3: saying there, because because I think it's important he's saying

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Speaker 3: when he says, my heart is Democrat. Democrats are all

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Speaker 3: about intention, right, Clay. It's all about, oh, I want

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Speaker 3: to help poor people, or I want there to be

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Speaker 3: total equality, or I want there to be these things.

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Speaker 3: Republicans are about what is and what works and what

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Speaker 3: is true. And so Diamond recognizes that mentally, intellectually, but emotionally,

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Speaker 3: he wants to be thought of as a person who helps.

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Speaker 1: I also think part of this is just this is

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Speaker 1: what you have to say in order for people to

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Speaker 1: accept the second part of what you say. In New

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Speaker 1: York and in la I think there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people out there who say, oh, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: fiscally conservative, but I'm socially liberal, and they're not even

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Speaker 1: acknowledging what social liberalism is.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference between hey, I think a gay person

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Speaker 1: should be able to marry another gay person, and hey,

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Speaker 1: I believe that you should be able to steal anything

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Speaker 1: you want and nobody should ever get put in prison

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Speaker 1: like there's a wide scope there, and that's what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to get away with.