1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: On this Christmas Eve episode, we have Christmas expert Sissy 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Graham Lynch with us. She is the granddaughter of evangelist 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Billy Graham and daughter of Franklin Graham. She works with 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Samaritans Perse and has her 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: very own podcast called Fearless. Welcome to the podcast, Sissy. 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: Well, Tutor, thanks for having me a Christmas expert. I 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: don't know if that's what I am. On this Christmas Eve, 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 3: I was making a list of everything I needed to 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: do as a mom and get it done. And I 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: have a lot more to do than I thought I did. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Isn't that I know? 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: When you have I have four kids, So I was 14 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: just saying, I've spent like the last few days wrapping gifts, 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 2: and as I'm wrapping these gifts, I'm thinking, we kind 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: of get consumed with do I have enough for each kid? 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: And are they going to have what their friends are 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: going to have? That is not what I should be 19 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: consumed with. How do you, as a family of faith, 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: how do you bring that focus on Jesus? 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: You know it happens to all of us. I just 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: was doing my devotions and the quietness this morning with 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 3: fireplace going, and I realize how busy just the last 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: couple of weeks and not even doing our advent with 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 3: my kids, and I think a lot of it. You 26 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 3: have to find that time. And for me in the 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: season of life I'm in right now, the time is 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 3: my car rides with my kids and that's when we're 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: talking about the Christmas season and what it means. And 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: I have a wide range of age in my house. 31 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: I have a three year old who thinks it's all 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: about presence and having a teacher Jesus. We're celebrating Jesus 33 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: Christ and his birthday, and then I have older kids, 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 3: you know, and talking to them hard conversations in those cars, 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: even here at Christmas when we look at some of 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: the tragedy that's happening around the world, and trying to 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: teach my kids what truth is. So as mom, sometimes 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: we have to get creative. It's always not that picture 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: perfect image that we might have in our mind of 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: sitting down as a family. But I think our kitchen table, 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: our car, those are the greatest mission fields with our 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: families right now in this season and the busyness of 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 3: the holiday season. 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: Your grandfather had such an impact. Obviously, your father has 45 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: had such an impact on this country. What do you 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 2: think your grandfather would be saying right now as we 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: see because I think I lost my dad a few 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: years ago, and I think about how just in a 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: few years, so. 50 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Much has changed. 51 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: The antisemitic terror attack that we just saw October seventh, 52 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: this kind of rising anti semitism across the country, an 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 2: attack on faith in general. If your grandfather were here, 54 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: how do you think he would handle that? 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: You know what I miss most about my grandfather in 56 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: times when I see tragedy is his steadiness and that 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: wisdom he would bring. My dad also has that steadiness, 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 3: and I think we all want that. We want that peace, 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: we want that assurance. But what I'm thankful for is 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: my grandfather. So many of his messages I'll go back 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: and listen to. I'll listen to his message after nine 62 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: to eleven when he spoke to a grieving nation from 63 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: the National Cathedral, and after the Oklahoma bombing, and you 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: know what, so many of his messages, and I listened 65 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: to him on Sirius XM. You can listen to the 66 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 3: Billy Graham channel and His messages are like he's speaking 67 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: to today's time, whether it's political turmoil, economic and policies 68 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: going on, whatever it is, there's nothing new under the sun. 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: Those issues we were facing, you know, twenty thirty years 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: ago when he's giving these messages, and so I still 71 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: listen to him today. But I think what he would 72 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: tell you is, we have a God that understands the pain. 73 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: We have a God that understands that hurt and that anger. 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: And many of us ask questions of why does God 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 3: allow evil to happen? Why does God allow tragedy to happen? 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: So much of what we've seen this year, And those 77 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: are okay to ask. Those questions are okay to ask, 78 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: and it's okay to grieve, it's okay to be angry. 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: But we have But what we need to do is 80 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: to go to a God who can be trusted and trust, 81 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: a sovereign God in these times, a God whose love 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 3: does not waver in the midst of the storms and 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: the battles that we face. And you know, I think 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: we have a god when we have Jesus Christ as 85 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 3: our Lord and savior. Here's a savior that left heaven 86 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: to come to this earth. He's seen the darkness of 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: this earth. He's lived it, he experienced. He gave his 88 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: life for you and for me on a cross to 89 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: a world that mocked him, a world that laughed at 90 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: him and rejected him. But he gave his life freely 91 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: for you and me, that whoever believes in him could 92 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: have eternal life. And that's what we celebrate at Christmas, 93 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: this greatest gift of all. And you know what, do 94 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: we look around. We still see a world mocking him. 95 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: We still see a world laughing at him and mocking 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: the name of Jesus Christ, because the name Jesus is 97 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: offensive to the world, because it makes us come face 98 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: to face with our sins. Because he came to provide 99 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: a way for us to heaven. We have an enemy 100 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: that doesn't want that. 101 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: What do you tell parents who are I'm in this 102 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: situation where I have young children who are in middle 103 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: school and high school. They are in Christian schools, they're 104 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: headed to My oldest is going to be a senior 105 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: next year, so we're looking at colleges and there is 106 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: that panic of once she leaves this safety of. 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Where we go. 108 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: We have a you know, we have a church that 109 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: we go to every Sunday, they have youth group, they 110 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: go to Christian schools, they are surrounded by faith. Once 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: they go into universities, there's so much opportunity for that 112 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: to be tested. 113 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: And how do I. 114 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 2: Know I've set them up with the right foundation to 115 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: withstand those tests. 116 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the launching pad that you know God 117 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 3: designs for are He designs for our children to go 118 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: out into the world, and it is it's our job, 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: you know. I remember my grandmother, Ruth Graham. She said, 120 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 3: as parents, you know, when we talk about salvation and 121 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 3: our faith, that's a miracle of the heart. And we 122 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 3: as moms and parents, we're not in the miracle business. 123 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 3: Only God is. But what we can do is what 124 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: we're responsible for is the possible, not the impossible. So 125 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 3: we take care, we train them just as you've been, 126 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: like you said, taking them to church and teaching them 127 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: what they believe and why they believe it, so that 128 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 3: when they do go into this world that they know 129 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: not just what my mom believes, but I know what 130 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: I believe in why, and their faith will be tested. 131 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 3: They're going to be challenged. There's going to be questions 132 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: that they ask, and those are probably going to be 133 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: really good questions, but we're still there at home when 134 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: they come home and ask those questions. It is scary 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: when you look at these universities. I don't know if 136 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: I want to spend my money and send these my 137 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: kids to some of these universities. And that'll be a 138 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 3: conversation I'll have in a couple of years when my 139 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: daughter reaches that point. 140 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because I just heard on the 141 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: news this morning that there was a university I can't 142 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: remember which university, but one of the professors I think 143 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: it was like an assistant professor failed one of the 144 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 2: students on her paper because they were asked about transgenderism 145 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: and she referenced the Bible, and the professor was transgender, 146 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: said it was offensive. 147 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Failed her. 148 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: How do you still obviously this has become quite an issue. 149 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: The university has gone in and reviewed it. But how 150 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: do you stand strong in your faith when there is 151 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 2: so much attack? How do you What is the message 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: that you give to young people as they go out 153 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: into the world to say it is you are going 154 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: to have these moments where you're going to be pushed 155 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: back upon, and it's okay to stand strong in those things. 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have three kids. I have a twelve year 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: old and nine year old and then a three year old. 158 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: She's my wild one. But I've had these conversations with 159 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: my kids when they see the news. I have the 160 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: news going on, they see the tragedy happening, and we 161 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: have to talk to them. I talk to them in 162 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: a way that they would understand it at their age, 163 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 3: but as believers in Jesus, the world won't like it 164 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: and the world won't like their faith. And as the 165 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: new story you just shared. I remember on college campus. 166 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: I went to Liberty University for two years, which also 167 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: that was a shot because I grew up in public 168 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: high school, so to go there where you can pray 169 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 3: in classrooms. But then I transferred to Appalachian State University, 170 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 3: and I had my professor down her glasses at me 171 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 3: and call me miss Liberty because she hated Jerry Folwell 172 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: Senior at the time, and she didn't even know my 173 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: last name. She didn't know who I was. She later 174 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: eventually found out. But I was really tested in my faith. 175 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: I mean, these were some tough debate classes I was in. 176 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: I'm thankful Liberty I think helped prepare me for those, 177 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: but I would be the only conservative. If I was, 178 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: I was the only outspoken one in that classroom, and 179 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: the only Christian that would at least be outspoken. I'm 180 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: not gonna say I was the only one in there, 181 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 3: but I had to know what I believed and why. 182 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: And my favorite Bible verse is in Daniel chapter eleven. 183 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 3: You know, Daniel and his friends they were taken captives 184 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 3: to a foreign land, but they didn't compromise to the 185 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: world around them. And Daniel chapter at seven, it says 186 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: those who know their God will be able to stand 187 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: and strength and take action. And that's what we want 188 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: for our children, and that's what we want for ourselves 189 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: in this world. We want to be able to stand firm, 190 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: but then we also want to be able to take 191 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: action with that and how do we do that? And 192 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: that's to know who God is, to know his attributes, 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: to know what he loves, what he doesn't love. The 194 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 3: world will try to redefine love. I've even had that 195 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 3: conversation with my kids in the car this week, what 196 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: is love? Because the world will define it differently. They 197 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: try to redefine and rob us of our terms. You know, 198 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: I talk to my kids what does the rainbow flag 199 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: mean in scripture? I mean, what does the rainbow mean 200 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: in scripture? But what is the world adopted it as? 201 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: And those are conversations we have starting young that they 202 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: will not be like because of their faith in Jesus. 203 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. 204 00:09:54,080 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. It's kind 205 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: of like it's such a bright symbol out there every day. 206 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: So that's been one of our biggest conversations is that 207 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: girls have been like, well, I don't want. 208 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: To wear rainbow stuffs to school. 209 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: Because I don't want people to think that I'm I'm 210 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: a part of the you know, LGBTQ group. I just 211 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: want to be myself. And I'm like, but you can't 212 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: allow the rainbow to be taken and seized by a 213 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: group and say that you can't ever have it, because 214 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 2: the rainbow is our symbol, you know. And it is 215 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: a really it's a confusing thing because I do think 216 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: that whether it's politics or whether it's faith, there is 217 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: an attack to take over the symbols that are in 218 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: the words that are important to us and change them. 219 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: And I don't want my kids to feel like that's 220 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: off limits. Now because it's been taken over by another group. Yeah, 221 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: I just try to teach them what does God's words say? 222 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: And then I'm very open what does the world say 223 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: about it? 224 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: Because I want their start difference and I want them 225 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: to be able to recognize that even at a young age. 226 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: You know, of course in ways that they can understand 227 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: it twelve years old, but they know a lot at 228 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 3: twelve and nine years old. 229 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: So you say, you listened to a lot of your 230 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 2: grandfather's sermons, which you just talked about Daniel and said, 231 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: you know, this is what this is what I can 232 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: point to in the Bible that is still relevant today. 233 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: Which is why the Bible is such a wonderful living document, 234 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: is that it is still relevant today. It tells us 235 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: everything that we need to know on how to live. 236 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: But that is also true of when someone is preaching 237 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: the Bible. And so you go back and you listen 238 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: to your grandfather's speeches and his messages. And one of 239 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: the things I think he was so clever about was 240 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: that he was genuinely lovable and made jokes. You know, 241 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: he wasn't very always serious. He was always he was 242 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: self deprecating. He would make jokes he would bring people in. 243 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: He would let people see that we are people that 244 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: are relying on God. 245 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the same Billy Graham the world saw. It 246 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: was the same Billy Graham we got at home. And 247 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: oh I do miss him. I miss my grandmother, I 248 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: miss their wisdom. And I'm thankful that as a granddaughter 249 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: I get to listen that that's available to me to 250 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: listen to them, because when they were alive and when 251 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: he was in the middle of his ministry, I was 252 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: so young that, you know, I hadn't lived life to 253 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: be able to ask him. I hadn't seen things going 254 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: on in our world to be able to ask him, well, 255 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 3: how would you respond? So I listened to him today 256 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: and it is you would I have. I used to 257 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 3: have Charlie Kirk. He would message me and say, hey, 258 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm listening to your grandfather's message right now, and it's 259 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: like he's speaking to today. It's because the Gospel does 260 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: not change. That's why it's relevant. That's why it sounds 261 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 3: like he's speaking to today. And that's what we need 262 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: right now. That when we look at the world and 263 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: the darkness of the world the only thing and it 264 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: seems like darkness prevails. We have to choose light and 265 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: Jesus Christ is the light of the world and that's 266 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: what we're celebrating at Christmas. And so yeah, I encourage 267 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 3: you sometimes if i'm you know, listen to Billy Graham 268 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: look up on YouTube or Sirius XM because I'm still 269 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: learning from him. 270 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: There was a movie a few years back, Unbroken, and 271 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 2: that was incredibly powerful to me. Was that your brother 272 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: that was in the movie that played or he was. 273 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: So in the first one, Unbroken, that was produced by 274 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: Angelina Joe Lee. It kind of stopped at the story, 275 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: you know, when Louis Zepparini when World War two was over, 276 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: But there was more to Louis Eepparini's story and those 277 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: for listening who Louis Zepparini was. He was a prisoner 278 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: of war. He was an Olympic athlete before World War 279 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: two started. 280 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: But then. 281 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: When he was taken prisoner and he was beaten and tortured. 282 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: But when he came back to America, he suffered with 283 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: severe PTSD and alcohol in his marriage was failing. His 284 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: wife had taken him to a Billy Graham crusade in California. 285 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: He didn't want to go and in that day or 286 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: in that day he surrendered his life to Jesus Christ 287 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: at a Billy Graham crusade. But my brother will Graham, 288 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: who's named after my grandfather, got to play in the 289 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: second story. They did a kind of a part two 290 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: and he got to play the role of my grandfather. 291 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: How cool was that? I mean, that had to have 292 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: been such a huge honor. 293 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, and if I remember correctly, he spoke 294 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 3: the same sermon my grandfather spoke that night. If I 295 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: really oh for some of the words of my grandfather. 296 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: That is so I read the book and then I 297 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: saw the movie, and it made me think about the 298 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: importance of I mean, obviously your grandfather was larger than life, 299 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: but every day it's important for us to live out 300 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: our faith because you never know whose life that's going 301 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: to impact. Tell us a little bit about your ministry 302 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: and how you're able to reach people and just as 303 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: a family in general. Do you have any idea of 304 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: the number of lives you've saved? 305 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: Oh, that's not who we saved, you know, to Jesus 306 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: Christ and God. I mean, what an honor I think 307 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: to work in ministry. I think growing up I never 308 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: wanted to have anything to do with ministry. I wanted 309 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: to be far away from the Grand Name and far 310 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: away from Samaritan's Purse and the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. 311 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 3: But as you grow up, God's got other plans for you, 312 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: and I think it's a true It's a privilege and 313 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: as an honor to be in ministry. Nothing I ever 314 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 3: feel worthy of doing. But I look at Samaritan's Purse 315 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: as a whole that I get to be a part of. 316 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: I look at our volunteers. This year as Samaritans Purse, 317 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: We've had almost two hundred and fifty thousand volunteers. There 318 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: is something for everybody to you know, from high school 319 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 3: to college to retirees, depending on you know what you love. 320 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: There's something for everybody to get involved with. What an 321 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: honor because we've talked about in the beginning of this 322 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 3: show the darkness of this world, but samaranis person and 323 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: the Billy Grahma Evangelistic Association we get a front row 324 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: seat to see God's goodness to work in the midst 325 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 3: of the storms. At the Billy Grama Evangelistic Association, we 326 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: have chaplains who partner with samaranis person. They go out 327 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: on every deployment and you know they pray with homeowners 328 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: who have lost their homes, you know at Bondi Beach 329 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 3: and what we just saw there, we our chaplains were 330 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: invited to come and just to pray with people who 331 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: were hurting. And so being a part of ministry I 332 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: never thought, but I'm thankful. I'm thankful that I have 333 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: a hope in Jesus Christ and I get to be 334 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: a part of that and sharing that in this world. 335 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: I think that's fascinating considering how we started talking about 336 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: how do you make sure your kids don't kind of 337 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: wander away? Just the thought that you were like, I 338 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: don't want to be a part of the ministry part of. 339 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: It, but then kind of got sucked in and now 340 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: you just. 341 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: Never say never, because you know, it was just the 342 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: older I get. I'm thankful that I had a heritage 343 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: of just faithfulness and unwavering faithfulness to serve the Lord, 344 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: and a grandfather and a grandmother and parents who kept 345 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: their eyes on the cross, and a world that the 346 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: waves are crashing on every side. I'm thankful for a 347 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: family that hasn't taken their eyes off the cross, and 348 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: I pray that for my gener or my children and 349 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: the future generations that they can be faithful in the 350 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: days that they will face. 351 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: What was What do you think your fear was or 352 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: your your apprehension was about getting involved? I mean, obviously 353 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 2: you'd seen it your whole life. Did it feel like 354 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: a lot of weight to be in ministry? 355 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: Sure? I think as a teenager one that pressure. You're 356 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 3: a Graham. I'm technically not a pastor's kid. My father 357 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 3: wasn't a pastor. He was an evangelist. But you know, 358 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: you had these these preconceptions that were tossed on you 359 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 3: and thrown on you. And my grandparents and my parents 360 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: never had these expectations of us. They were so gracious 361 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: even when we'd mess up and fail and I wouldn't, 362 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: you know, broke the rules or get caught doing something 363 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: I was not supposed to do. My family was just gracious, 364 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: and that's that's how we have a heavenly father who 365 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: shows grace on us. But I never wanted to be 366 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: a part of the Graham name, to be honest. That 367 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: was a struggle I really had to face in my childhood. 368 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: And there was one day I was on a trip 369 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: with my dad. It was after my freshman year in 370 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: college at Liberty. I had really struggled and I was 371 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 3: struggling with an addiction privately, and my dad took me 372 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: on a trip and we kind of went around the world. 373 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: He had some crusades with the Billy Graham Vangelist Association, 374 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: but we also went to Samaritans First Projects and I 375 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: can remember I was in Africa. We were with this 376 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: rin Deli tribe. It was like straight out of National 377 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: Geographic where we were done literacary programs for women. And 378 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: I remember looking at my dad. I was standing under 379 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 3: this tree in the desert, and I said, this is 380 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 3: why my dad's been gone so much of my life. 381 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: He was being obedient to what God had caught him 382 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: to do. And in that moment, God changed my heart. 383 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: Is this kind of like bitter teenage girl towards my 384 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: dad who has gone a lot in ministry and resenting ministry. 385 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: I was thankful in that moment that I had a 386 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: father who was obedient to God's calling in his life. 387 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: And as I get older, I'm just more and more 388 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: thankful because I know not everybody has had that, but 389 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: I want to encourage those who are listening today. Maybe 390 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: you didn't grow up with a godly heritage, maybe you 391 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 3: didn't have that example. It's never too late to start 392 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: that for your own family and to kind of change 393 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: the direct the course of your family. You can start that. 394 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was a moment when God 395 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: spoke to you? Because I think that for those of us. 396 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in a family where we went 397 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: to church every Sunday. I mean, we were Christian, but 398 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: you know the Christians that go to church on Christmas 399 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: and Easter. You know, so my faith grew as an adult. 400 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 2: But do you think that for people who look at 401 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 2: your family like think, I assume everybody is just like 402 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: so gung ho Christ all the time, and it's like, 403 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: this is our family mission. 404 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: And we love it. 405 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that moment was sort of an 406 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 2: eye opening this is what Christ is kind of moment 407 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: for you. 408 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: It was a moment that I forgave my dad. You know, 409 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: it was rooted as a child, you know, when he 410 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: would miss things or miss games or different things. I 411 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: didn't realize it at the moment, but there was little 412 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: seeds taking place, and it was a moment that wasn't 413 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: really outspoken, but I just forgave them and God dealt 414 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: with my own heart. You know, sometimes as old as parents, 415 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: we can't control everything. God's got to deal with our 416 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: own individual hearts. And in that moment, God dealt with 417 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: my own heart, and it took time, but I'm just 418 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: once again, I'm thankful that I had a father that 419 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 3: was obedient. And as parents as were raising our kids, 420 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: we don't know how they're going to all turn out 421 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: all the time, and that can be scary in this world. 422 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 3: But my prayer is as a parent, that I would 423 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: point them and guide them to truth. The world is 424 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: constantly searching for truth, but I want them to have 425 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 3: that peace and that assurance that they can stand in 426 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 3: strength and be able to take action. And that's what 427 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 3: we're celebrating at Christmas. When we talk about the Christmas story, 428 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: I look at Mary, a young girl, the mother of Jesus. 429 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 3: Here was a young girl twelve to fifteen years old 430 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 3: whose life was turned upside down and what she would 431 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: face as a mother as a young girl watch her son. 432 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 3: I mean, she would suffer through her life and what 433 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: she would have to deal with, but she told the 434 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: Angel that day I am the Lord's servant, May your 435 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: will be done, and that's what we need to be. 436 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: We need to be serving the Lord and trusting his will. 437 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: And there was a peace and assurance in that, not 438 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 3: knowing what her life would unveil and not having all 439 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: the answers to the questions when her life turned upside down, 440 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: that she was going to have a baby and she's 441 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: not even married, but she had a peace and assurance. 442 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: And we all want that. That's what we're searching for, 443 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: and through Jesus Christ, we can have that. 444 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: And I think that's such a great example of how 445 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: the Bible impacts you and the Word of God impacts 446 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: you differently at different points in your life. I think 447 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: when you're young, Christmas is such a magical time that 448 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: Christ came. He was you know, it was like a 449 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: miracle that we see the baby Jesus come to life 450 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: and he comes to this earth and there's the star 451 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: and then wise men, and it's just such a wonderful story. 452 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: And then as you get older and you actually become 453 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: a mom yourself, you do look at that and you say, 454 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: she was going to go through such hardship, and yet 455 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: she did it with joy, And that's the difference between 456 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: joy and happiness. You know, we've talked about this quite 457 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: a bit at church recently. Is that that joy in Christ, 458 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 2: that joy in God, that joy in knowing who your 459 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: Lord is. And she said, use me. That's a hard 460 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: thing in society today to just say use me, because 461 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: we don't want anything hard. Yeah. 462 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: I mean when you look at following in Luke chapter two, 463 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: when she had married the Magnificant and it was really 464 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: a parallel prayer to Hannah's prayer, and it was my 465 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: soul magnifies the Lord. That at a young age, her 466 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: heart was saturated with God's word. And that's kind of 467 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 3: what I meant earlier is those who know their God 468 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: will be able to stand the strength. Mary knew who 469 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: God was. She knew just through scripture, has studied scripture 470 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 3: that in that moment when her life took this major turn, 471 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 3: that she was able to stand with a peace and 472 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 3: an assurance in God because she knew who He was. 473 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: And I mean, think of a mother who watched her 474 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 3: son hang on a cross before the world, and the 475 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 3: world mocked her son. She was probably mocked her whole life. 476 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: You know, maybe until Jesus turned that water into wine 477 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 3: in his first miracle that people really began to be well, 478 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: maybe Mary was telling the truth all these years. There's 479 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: something special about her son. But she was so faithful 480 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: and how thankful I am. You know that we have 481 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 3: that example of her in scripture. I think we don't 482 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: talk about her enough, especially in the Protestant in the 483 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: Evangelical world, we don't talk about Mary enough, but a 484 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: remarkable You know that God chose this young girl and 485 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: his plan of redemption for the world, and. 486 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: Even in that moment when he turned water to wine, 487 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: she went to him and he said it's not time yet, 488 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: but he agreed to do it. 489 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: You almost see this moment. 490 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: Where God goes, I need to give back to you 491 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: that that love, that amazing love that it's like, it's 492 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: not time, but for you, I will. 493 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: Do that us m Yeah. I mean we don't really 494 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: know all the details of her life and what she endured, 495 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: but I think in that moment, in that miracle, he 496 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 3: did that for his. 497 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 2: Mom And that is the human part. That's the part 498 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: where he is fully man and fully God. And that's 499 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: the beauty of the story that we want to share 500 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: with so many people's. Let's take a quick commercial break 501 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: we'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As we 502 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 2: go into Christmas, as we are busy and thinking of 503 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: all the last minute gifts and thinking of all the 504 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: last minute wrapping, what do you think tomorrow morning when 505 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: we wake up and we rush down there with our kids, 506 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: what will be the first thing you do. Do you 507 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: take a moment to take in the day, to take 508 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: in who we are celebrating, to celebrate the Lord. Absolutely 509 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: so in my tradition growing up just as a little 510 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: girl in my parents' home. Of course, I had three 511 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: older brothers and I would wake up so early, but 512 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: my dad would make us wait. He'd go down and 513 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: get his coffee. You know that waiting was so hard 514 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: and difficult. 515 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 3: But as we would come down, he would always read 516 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: the Christmas Story out of Luke. And that's what we 517 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: do now with my kids. Before we open any present, 518 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: we read the Christmas Story. And sometimes I'll take the 519 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: Nativity for like my little one and do it as 520 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 3: my husband is reading. And that's what and then we 521 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 3: spend time as a family in prayer before before we 522 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: open anything. 523 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: That sounds amazing. 524 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 2: I think that's a great suggestion to everybody out there 525 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: for this Christmas season and to make that a tradition 526 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: in your homes. It's that moment of quiet. And I 527 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: appreciate the moment for coffee as well. So I'm with 528 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: your dad on that because it's always, it doesn't matter 529 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: how old my kids get, it's always like five o'clock 530 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: in the morning when they're like, it's morning, I've woken. 531 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: Up, Like what are you This should be illegal. No, 532 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: it's not. 533 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: Now as a parent, I understand the coffee part. 534 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: I get it exactly exactly, but it is good to 535 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: have that moment and there is that moment of calm, 536 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: that moment of peace. Take that moment to really instill 537 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: those because I will tell you just before we go, 538 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: I'll tell you a few weeks ago, we had a 539 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: former FBI agent on the program and the Way, and 540 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: she had been in finance and she was there the 541 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: day that the towers fell, and she said, in that moment, 542 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: as she was running and seeing the towers falling, that 543 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: a song from Sunday School came into her head and 544 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: she just started singing that song and praying. 545 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: And I was. 546 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: Almost reassured in that moment that all of these things 547 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: that we've taught our kids. Even if you feel like 548 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: your child has kind of stepped away from faith, that 549 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 2: foundation comes back. And you hear so many stories of 550 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: someone who gotten into trouble or stepped away from the Lord, 551 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: and a scripture suddenly like ballooms in their heart and 552 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: comes out and just like echoes in their mind. And 553 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: that foundation is so important. So these moments that you 554 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: build these morning, these Christmas mornings, where you take that 555 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: moment to go through the Word and learn about the 556 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 2: Christmas story, That's what builds that foundation, so that when 557 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: you send them off and those moments that are scary, 558 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: they are prepared. 559 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is important and you'll never know when 560 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: God uses that later in their life, but it is 561 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: true those little Sunday school songs they take root, and 562 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 3: those Bible verses that may memorize and vbs you know 563 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: during the summer, God uses that. It's rooted in their 564 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 3: heart and God will use it in their life one day. 565 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: It has been such a pleasure talking to you. Merry Christmas, 566 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: Sissy Graham Lynch. I appreciate you coming on the podcast. 567 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, and Merry Christmas to. 568 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 2: You Tutor, thank you and thank you all for joining 569 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: us Merry Christmas to you. You know where you can 570 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: watch it and listen to the podcast on YouTube on 571 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to it 572 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: and make sure you join us next time. But everybody, 573 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: have an amazing and blessed Christmas.