WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Pro Bowl Snubs?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Tuesday, December twenty second, twenty twenty, season sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number eighty five. Welcome to the latest edition of

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<v Speaker 1>The Break, presented by Geico Got My Crew, Nick Amber, Dave, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know what's what that is he's wearing,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is helping him. Look, I guess a little

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<v Speaker 1>more festive, Sanahan, isn't You don't know what I'm wearing?

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<v Speaker 1>You live in America. Oh, it is a sad I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's it is like a ubiquitous symbol of American culture.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, sure it's our local Santa. Dave's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>our Santa for the show. That's good work, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>brighten the mood around here. Good. I appreciate that, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Christmas week. We will have a different schedule

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Just so everyone knows We got our shows

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<v Speaker 1>today and tomorrow as normal. On Thursday, though, there will

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<v Speaker 1>be a couple of joint shows, will mix in some

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<v Speaker 1>different different people on different shows, but we'll do two

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<v Speaker 1>shows that morning, and then there will be no shows

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<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Day this Friday, and then back on our

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<v Speaker 1>normal schedule on Monday, so make sure you check the

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<v Speaker 1>website for more information on that. Lots of football coming

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<v Speaker 1>up this weekend. The NFL has games on Friday Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys play on Sunday with the normal Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>till for the NFL, So lots of football, lots of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to talk about today though on the break, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to get into a lot of different topics.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna catch up on some updates. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about the Pro Bowl, some interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things there, not for the Cowboys, but interesting things there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be as will the playoff talk. Well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>let you know what's what's going on as far as

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff picture and what has to happen this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys to either still be in or be eliminated.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we'll talk a little bit about the Dallas offense,

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<v Speaker 1>defense and special teams have a few questions for these

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<v Speaker 1>guys on each of those three parts of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start first injury updates. Dave, give me an update

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<v Speaker 1>on the guys that got hurt in this game. You

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<v Speaker 1>got Layton Vanderesh, you got Michael Gallup, Antoine Woods, Xavier Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we know about them at this point? We

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<v Speaker 1>know that Layton vander esh is probably dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>multiple week issue, which obviously you know, there's only two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks left in the regular seasons, so it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>a long shot that he would be available, especially since

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy was willing to say that. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>basically said, I don't have a ton of optimism. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>be ready for Philly. The other guy, it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be you know, the more typical. See how

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<v Speaker 1>they go through the week, so you know, we'll follow

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<v Speaker 1>their progress as the practice reports come out. But it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like everybody else at least has a shot to

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<v Speaker 1>play Sunday. Layton not so much. You know. I'll add

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<v Speaker 1>this about Antoine Woods, and I understand that you have

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<v Speaker 1>boots on your ankle feet. You know, sometimes that's just

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of you know, get things. You know, healed quicker,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't look like he's he could play this week.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm just guessing, just based off the lamp, based

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<v Speaker 1>off the size of the boot on his I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was his ankle. I'm not really sure what his status.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, which injury it was, but I would say

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<v Speaker 1>Antoine Woods is probably gonna be tough to make it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>were you talking about Xavier Antoine? Antoine Antwine? Okay, got it,

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<v Speaker 1>got it all right, let's nick. You didn't mention yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was off the air. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>were talking a little bit about Ezekiel Ella. Do we

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<v Speaker 1>know anything more about kind of how he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>in the position where he didn't play, because it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like last week that was real optimism that he would play,

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<v Speaker 1>And what do we know about that and how it

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<v Speaker 1>may stretch into this week or next week. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a bruise for two weeks now, and then on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>he said before the game, he said he felt a tug.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he felt like it was kind of more

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<v Speaker 1>of a pool and the calf. He said, I can

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<v Speaker 1>do everything. I can play through the bruise and the pain,

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<v Speaker 1>but when there's a when there's like a pool and

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<v Speaker 1>a strain, I can't be as explosive as I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be. And that's why they shut it down. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not for that game. He's not shutting it down

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<v Speaker 1>for the season. But if this thing persists, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was that was what Zack Martin had

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, he didn't come back. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously the difference between a calf strain and

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<v Speaker 1>a calf bruise and so you know, and with what

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<v Speaker 1>we saw out of Tony Pollard, I mean, I would

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<v Speaker 1>just imagine it did not going to rush Zeke back

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Yeah. I actually we talked a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday about the about this team, in particular about Tony Pollard,

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke Elliott. There's a narrative that I've heard, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard of from some people that cover the team here

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<v Speaker 1>with us for Dallas Cowboys dot Com that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rubs me the wrong way, and I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>your opinions on it. I've heard of several people mentioned, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you take out the forty yard run, then he

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<v Speaker 1>was only averaging two point three yards per carry. And

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<v Speaker 1>my thought is, when you talk about Tony Pollard. That

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<v Speaker 1>is why you like Tony Pollard is because he has

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to make that forty yard run. He might

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<v Speaker 1>have that two point three yard average throughout most of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, but when he has that big forty yard run,

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<v Speaker 1>he can turn games. And that's what you're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>from Zeke Elliott. Do you guys find that same is

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<v Speaker 1>that the same analysis or do you buy into the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that you know you're not getting enough consistent runs

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<v Speaker 1>from Tony Pollard so he may not be as good

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<v Speaker 1>an option. I'll start with you, Hamper. I'm just honestly

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little tired of trying to compare these two

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<v Speaker 1>guys because they are just two different backs with different

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<v Speaker 1>type of talent. And the thing is that the real

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<v Speaker 1>problem here is the old line. I think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the real problem, and that's why neither of these two

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been able to be as consistent as you

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<v Speaker 1>would want them to be. And Pauler and we saw

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<v Speaker 1>in that game, regardless of those explosive moments that he had,

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<v Speaker 1>they were having problems trying to run the ball. They

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<v Speaker 1>still had problem with the running games. So it just

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<v Speaker 1>comes to me, it just comes to the old line

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<v Speaker 1>and Pauler, he's just gonna give you something different that

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke is not gonna be able to give you, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not anymore, but Zeke at the same time, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>provide you other things that Pauler is not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to give you. So I'm just started trying to

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<v Speaker 1>compare these two guys. I think that we should just

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<v Speaker 1>be happy that the Cowboys have these two bags and

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<v Speaker 1>hope that they just find a way to utilize them

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<v Speaker 1>better next year. Dave, Hey, gee, if everybody's happy, then

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have anything to talk about. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we can't have that. For I've always hated that idea that, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you take away the eighty yard run, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a great day, like, well he went eighty yards

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<v Speaker 1>like that that counts, right. So I've always hated that,

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<v Speaker 1>and for that matter, I'm looking at it right and

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<v Speaker 1>like Zeke's a good player, Like I always feel self

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<v Speaker 1>conscious that people are going to think that I like

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<v Speaker 1>hate Zeke or don't think he's a good player. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's a good player. He's not living up

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<v Speaker 1>to the contract. And another point of evidence of that

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<v Speaker 1>is Zeke is not even averaging four yards per carry

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<v Speaker 1>on the season, like that is the baseline of what

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to do to be considered a good running

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<v Speaker 1>back in the NFL, and Zeke's not even doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like he's got this crazy good average either.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also hasn't been creating explosive plays, so that

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<v Speaker 1>criticism doesn't ton of hold does not hold a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of water for me, because you know, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the narrative on Zeke is that maybe he's not explosive,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's steady and physical, and that's true. But I

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<v Speaker 1>still want better than four yards per carry from my

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollars running back. So no, Yeah, I even

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<v Speaker 1>wrote that in the column after the game that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like that. You can't take you know, plays off,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't take that out because it happened. But but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that what you can see is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where did the forty yard run happen? It happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>he got out and he got out in space with

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Sherman. I believe it's who it was. He made

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<v Speaker 1>the move on and they need to spend and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>so he made an outstanding play. I think it's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that that where he's doing his damages in the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fine, that's that's what you would expect now,

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<v Speaker 1>but it won't work if you don't run up the

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<v Speaker 1>middle every every now and again. And they do that,

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<v Speaker 1>they run him up in there, but that's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be his bread and butter. That's not what where he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make a living. And that's fine, Like Amber said,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have to like this. These are two good backs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they need to do all offseason and figure

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<v Speaker 1>out some good ways to utilize both of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think he could be a dangerous he

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<v Speaker 1>is a dangerous player on the outside. Now. I did

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<v Speaker 1>see his stat on I think it was on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is one of those where like you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a stat anything you want, and it was average

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<v Speaker 1>per touch for Pollard and Zeke and it's like night

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<v Speaker 1>and day. I forgot exactly what it was, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>like they factored in kickoff returns and come on, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the twenty that's twenty five yards. You know, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five yards is not really that great if a kickoff return,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're taking it four yards back, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>your end zone, So he's had some big ones. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that that is one of those narratives

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<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, we're really gonna hammer this thing home,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not really fair to yep. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one other thing I'll add to that, Nick, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with you from the standpoint that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that Pollard is the running back. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you look at and say, Okay, he's gonna be pounding

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<v Speaker 1>the rock like regularly. What I do think though, is

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<v Speaker 1>that particular play that forty yard he broke tackles like

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a physical run. Um, Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>did make a guy miss, but there were two guys

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<v Speaker 1>that were there that that got to him, and he

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<v Speaker 1>broke the tackle least fun out of the tackle and

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<v Speaker 1>then sprint it forty yards to get to the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's the part to me where I

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<v Speaker 1>look at him and I say, that's what I would think.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know And he goes back to what Amber said,

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<v Speaker 1>we all know. This offensive line isn't great blocking as

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<v Speaker 1>far as the run game is concerned. But if you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have if you're gonna be a really good back,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to have the ability. Even when you're running

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<v Speaker 1>your blockers aren't having their best season, you still gotta

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<v Speaker 1>find ways to make guys miss. You gotta find ways

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<v Speaker 1>to break tackles, and you gotta find make ways. When

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<v Speaker 1>you do that, then don't get caught. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Paula did. That's what we haven't seen from Zeke. And

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<v Speaker 1>again this is not to me, this is not so

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<v Speaker 1>much a referendum on Zeke. I think it's more a

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<v Speaker 1>referendum on the offensive coaching staff and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't figured out how to get Tony Pollock more involved.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that means that Zeke gets a little less involved,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with that because Paula brings you that explosiveness

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<v Speaker 1>that you just don't get from Zeke. Right now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, here's what we're gonna do. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>take our first break really quickly, and we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk a little Pro Bowl, We'll talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little playoff pitch. You'll then we'll come right back. This

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<v Speaker 1>good to know. All right, let's uh, why what do

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we make money. Yeah, but that's for Dave's show,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good looking out. All right, here's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk a little bit about let's look a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about Pro Bowl. No. Cowboys made it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>first time since nineteen eighty nine. I think it is Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do anything since nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, yeah, gotcha, point yeah yeah. But here's my

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<v Speaker 1>question for you guys. Were you at all even mildly

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<v Speaker 1>surprised that not at least one guy made it? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at the list and I look at

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<v Speaker 1>the special team and I talked yesterday about C J.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodwin and how much I think he has been a

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<v Speaker 1>like a really really great special teams player. Not even

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like him makes it like, are you at

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<v Speaker 1>all mildly surprised? And who would be the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you think had an outside chance? Nick, Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>surprised just because it hasn't happened. There's been bad teams before,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just think somebody's gonna, you know, would would

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<v Speaker 1>would get in, but you know didn't. When you get

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<v Speaker 1>a little closer and you're like, okay, but who, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I don't, I don't know. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>just depends on what people view of Zach Martin. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but that would be the one. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did you deserve it? I don't know, that's debatable. Because

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a better offensive lineman that we've seen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look what he did this year. I mean he's he's

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<v Speaker 1>an All Pro players. Just unfortunate that he didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>enough games, but yeah, to play a number of games, right, yeah? Yeah, Amber,

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think? Um? I think I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been surprised had the Cowboys had a player who made

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<v Speaker 1>it into the Pro Bowl, if I'm being honest. I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about Sack Martin, but then the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>about how many games he's missed and all that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that goes into play. But and also you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned c J. Goodwin. Even if a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>that would have made it into the Pro Bowl, that

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<v Speaker 1>would have surprised me because usually those kind of players

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<v Speaker 1>don't usually tend to get that kind of recognition, at

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<v Speaker 1>least from the Cowboys that I've seen in previous year.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually it's someone with like a bigger spotline, someone with

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger name, bigger recognition. So it's just it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to pick anyone when you've seen the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>season that the Cowboys have had this year. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure when people are voting and things, I'm sure they're

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily thinking of the Cowboys players this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm being honest, I wasn't really surprised, Dave. I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised very briefly because I know that the Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl voting system is flawed and a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>get voted in more on reputation than anything. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that the big two reputation votes are Tyrn

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Zach Martin, and they just not to say that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, those guys deserve like they're great players, but

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<v Speaker 1>once you kind of especially as an offensive lineman, once

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<v Speaker 1>you start getting voted in, it kind of snowballs on itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But Tyron hasn't played for most of the year, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of amazing if you go look at it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like Zach has missed almost half the season, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because he got knocked out of two games very very early,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he got hurt in the first quarter of two

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<v Speaker 1>different games, and he's missed another four, so he's really

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<v Speaker 1>missed six of fourteen games. It's basically half a year.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you once you think about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Zach and Tyron really haven't played a lot

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<v Speaker 1>this year, it's not surprising And and truth be told.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't think they really deserve it. Zach

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<v Speaker 1>would have deserved it if he'd played more. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you know. I mean, Jalen Spans obviously leads

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<v Speaker 1>the league in tackles. Okay, okay, I'm good. Get a

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<v Speaker 1>headache if you do that too, If you do that fast,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a headache. Yeah. Sorry, I'd get in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid. You're doing that rolling of

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<v Speaker 1>that anyway. But what the linebacker position at the Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowls is flawed anyways, you know, and is an out

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<v Speaker 1>side linebacker in a four three it's it's it's really impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think they need to make a

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<v Speaker 1>change there. And I'm not saying that if that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>he would get in. I don't think he is. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's having a Pro Bowl season at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think that the outside linebacker spot are

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<v Speaker 1>for three four guys and and those guys have sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just think that, you know that they

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<v Speaker 1>need to they need to make those pass rushers. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll ask you this this year, they're not sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say that this year they're not

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<v Speaker 1>selecting alternates. So yeah, I mean that's how he made

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<v Speaker 1>it last year. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a I bet you there were a small snates. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they probably did. They probably had three or four.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't I mean, Amari probably was a was

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<v Speaker 1>an alternate. I would guess what's Evan ingram stats. I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't know that he's not. Evan Ingram does not

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<v Speaker 1>belong does not know. But but how many Evan Ingram

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<v Speaker 1>does not belong in he's I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be great. I had him in fantasy he

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<v Speaker 1>was I know, I know I had him in fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to it was. It was very pedestrian.

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<v Speaker 1>I would nobody cares people's fantasy at least, but nobody

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<v Speaker 1>had a worse bad beat than me last night. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean nobody. You don't I had to steal his defense now? No? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, no, never mind, go ahead, um no, And

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I mean I think there were

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<v Speaker 1>some different I was like the Cheltz is what I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying, Okay, what is Ingram's numbers? Because I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Schultz has got fis five catches and four touchdowns. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Ingram's numbers are, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying I'll tell you. I'll tell you what Evan Ingram's

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are fifty four catches for five seventy two and

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown. Like it's a joke that he's there. Yeah, there,

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<v Speaker 1>he isn't joking. I wonder who else is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I know that Schultz would be close. God,

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<v Speaker 1>if he made the Pro Bowl wouldn't have been They

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<v Speaker 1>had the pullback Amber's clip from like August person. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like, he needs to be cut, and we were

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<v Speaker 1>all I didn't think that. I said the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I don't even know why he's still here.

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<v Speaker 1>I said that we all were. I mean we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember it was like week two. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Schultz is gonna play a little bit better

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<v Speaker 1>this week because it was against the Ram The Rams

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<v Speaker 1>he filled in for Jarwin didn't play very well. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, right, yeah, And I was like I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just because he was ready to be cut,

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<v Speaker 1>and but he's had a good Dalton Schultz has one

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<v Speaker 1>fewer catch, fifty fewer yards, and three more touchdowns than

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<v Speaker 1>Evin Ingram, Like, I'm not saying he should be in

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<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl, but he's got a better case to

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<v Speaker 1>be there than Evin Ingram does. I'm trying to think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's not a first round pig. What are

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<v Speaker 1>the tight ends are in the NFC? The best two

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends in the league or in the AFC. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it, and yet most of the season

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<v Speaker 1>so um, I don't know. I can't think when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, I mean, it's it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>get in usually in the NFC because you have Kittle

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<v Speaker 1>and you had Hurts catches all these passes. But he

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<v Speaker 1>just missed a lot of season anyway, he hasn't played

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<v Speaker 1>great this year. Statistics no, no, and then because he

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<v Speaker 1>has Goddard get some of those catches sued, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>had that great of a season either. He's been injured.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the other tight ends. I mean, Tampa Bay, haven't anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Gronk, did Gronk make it? I don't think wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean if he mayn't looking at I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pull up the rosters right now. Yeah, but that

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<v Speaker 1>it is amazing that we're even talking about like it

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<v Speaker 1>was possible snub for Shultz, TJ, TJ. Hockinson, and Evan Ingram.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I didn't know t J. Hockinson had that

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<v Speaker 1>good of a year, right, Yeah, but it doesn't sock

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<v Speaker 1>you had to have a great year to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl as a tight end the NFC, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't seem like there's a ton of competition there, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>just real quick before we move on another topic where

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<v Speaker 1>you'd all surprised your boy Jefferson got in. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he's he's killing it. He's like, I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's been absolutely amazing. He might win Offensive Rookie of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year as a wide receiver. So no, I wasn't surprised,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. I was just a little bit. And I

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<v Speaker 1>went to look at his numbers, and that's when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I didn't realize he'd had that good a

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<v Speaker 1>season with the numbers that he'd put up. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was. I thought he was kind of on that cusp.

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<v Speaker 1>I was also I was thinking, like, are there other

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<v Speaker 1>guys that that maybe got snubbed here, that that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it had been ahead of him? And I think there

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<v Speaker 1>may have been one other guy that that could have

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<v Speaker 1>made a claim that maybe they should have been in

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<v Speaker 1>that spot. But yeah, he was right up there with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's right there in the mix, and I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was pretty pretty surprise. He he ain't. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Moss, but he is putting up Moss like stats.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like Randy Moss was so much more talented,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not I want to compare him, but his

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<v Speaker 1>stats are pretty crazy for a rookie wide receiver. There's

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<v Speaker 1>not a narrative that he wasn't surprised. Is there being

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a narrative that they should have drafted him

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<v Speaker 1>over a CD Land I haven't heard. I haven't heard

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<v Speaker 1>that either. I haven't heard No. I think the narrative.

0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the narrative is just the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver classes as advertised. I mean, yeah, for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, all of those guys are really kicking. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean CD was, CD was on an insane pace

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<v Speaker 1>before Dak went down. Jefferson's doing his thing. Um you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I you is having a nice season for San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>Judy's been pretty good. You know, Rugs and Rager haven't

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 1>been great, But there's more to it than that. Yeah,

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it looks really good. If he got a good trigger man,

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<v Speaker 1>he might have. Yeah. True. I'm just saying, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's move on. Let's talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff picture. Right now, it's very clear for the

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys. They gotta win out. Washington has to lose out.

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Washington will be playing the Carolina Panthers um this Sunday, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they got Philly the final week of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas has Philly this week and the New York Giants

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Right now, I like each of you to

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<v Speaker 1>give me your percentage chance you think the Cowboys get

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs knowing that they gotta win out and

0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that Washington has to lose out. Let's start with you. Amber.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about percentages, but I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>do think that the Cowboys can win this this last

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<v Speaker 1>two games. But at the same time, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>that Washington can also when when this last two games.

0:23:58.520 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's it's gonna be one of those things that

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when this happens with the Cowboys, that it

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>gets like, oh, it's out of their control. Now, it's

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>out of their hands, and our faith depends on someone

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>else's faith. So once again we're seeing that kind of

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:20.679
<v Speaker 1>scenario here, and I just I think that even if

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys play better and keep carrying on what they've

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<v Speaker 1>done this past two games, it's just not gonna be enough,

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<v Speaker 1>because Washington is gonna win this two last games, all right, Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I mean, you know, the stats say that

0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys have a five percent chance. It feels higher

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>than that to me. I mean, I know, you know,

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>math is not really negotiable, but it just feels more

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<v Speaker 1>likely than five percent. I still think I would say

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>it's unlikely, though, because I mean, you know, this is

0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a flawed team. You're going you know, Philly clearly has

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 1>a spark since they put Jalen Hurts back in the lineup.

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>And then if you even if it stretches the week

0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 1>seventeen again, Washington with that defensive front going against Jalen Hurts,

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>you'd think the Giants probably have Daniel Jones back for

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboy game. I don't trust the Cowboys. I don't

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>trust the Cowboys to win four straight games, which is

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>what they would need to do to be in that position.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And even then Washington gets two cracks at two flawed teams,

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.159
<v Speaker 1>so I leaned toward thinking it won't happen. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's more likely than five percent. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty five percent chance it happens. Okay, yeah, I

0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>mean that seems right. I mean I saw the five

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<v Speaker 1>percent as well, and it doesn't you know, that doesn't

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>seem it seems a little low. Um, I mean, is

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Christian McCaffrey playing see out because that difference, that makes

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a big difference for Carolina to go win that game.

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know his status. We obviously trying to figure

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>out our own team. But um, you know, I just

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I agree with them. I don't think Washington's gonna lose two.

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean defense travels. I mean, defense is always there,

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 1>and they played well against Seattle. I mean they had

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>they had shots in that game. So I just I

0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>just don't see those two teams both beating you know, Washington,

0:26:12.119 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>but or the Cowboys went in four straight. I mean, yeah,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.959
<v Speaker 1>that's that's they just haven't shown a level of consistency.

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>So it's not stacking up to do it. But you know,

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.159
<v Speaker 1>the NFL is making sure that you have to tune in.

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, they they flexed the game up for Washington,

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>so it's not noon anymore. So now it's all happening

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.679
<v Speaker 1>at the same time. So because because if if Washington

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>would have won at noon, Philly and the Cowboys will

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.879
<v Speaker 1>both be out. And then all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 1>just like, wait, why is Gilbert playing? You know, like

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? You know, it's like, oh, we've seen

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>that before. There's nothing worse than being in the stadium

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>for a game that that. Now it doesn't matter, even

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>though you thought it did earlier. That's terrible. That's happened

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a few times. I'll tell you this. I actually think

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll do two different percentages if if if Haskins plays,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that percentage is higher. You look at what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done this year, even with that good defense they has,

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>he's only won one game. He started one, two, three, four, five.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>He started five games and they've won one of them. Um,

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I think if if he's the guy, that's your starter. Now, again,

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those were against good teams, so you

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.360
<v Speaker 1>gotta give a little bit to that, and these last

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>two games they're not playing teams that, statistically from their

0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>win loss records, are good teams. But I will say this,

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>if Alex Smith. I feel more comfortable with the idea

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that Washington will will win this thing. If Alex Smith

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>is a quarterback, then I do I Haskins at quarter Well,

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>do you think that Ron rivera Queen Haskins has bigger

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:39.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff to worry about? Right? I wasn't gonna even get

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>into that, even going to play, I would guess. Yeah,

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>he's apologized for those that don't know. He was supposedly

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>was seen in a strip club on Sunday night after

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>their loss with no mask on. So a little bit

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>of a little bit of drama coming out of that,

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>not protecting his team and those kinds of things. But

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 1>which I mean, I don't know the answer to this,

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.760
<v Speaker 1>But what I mean, what if he what if that

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>leads to him testing positive for COVID? I mean, that's

0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:10.000
<v Speaker 1>just so unbelievably stupid. Never mind like the immature, like

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the immaturity. But then all I mean, what are they

0:28:13.280 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna do? What are they gonna do if he liked

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>tests positive for COVID and Alex Smith isn't ready? Yeah,

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I that is that is unfathomably bad decision making. Yeah,

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>definitely borrow bend Nucci. I guess it definitely was a

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>bad decision, and he's apologized for it. I don't know

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 1>how he came to the conclusion that he thought it

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:34.480
<v Speaker 1>was a good idea in the first place, but he's

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.479
<v Speaker 1>apologized for it him. Maybe we're to keep an eye

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Maybe where he went to was was

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>you know they test there? Maybe it was clean. They

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>test everybody walking in the door. Maybe I don't know,

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 1>you know you know this? How do you know this?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I wouldn't know any I wouldn't know anything

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>about that. I wouldn't know anything about talking to one

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of the beat writers though that and I know a

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>couple that that might see what he thinks they might know.

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<v Speaker 1>Um oh um oh. I was just talking about Ron Rivera.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he would love nothing more than to clinch

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<v Speaker 1>the division against Carolina. You kill me. I mean now

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't get to play. Yeah, no doubt, it doesn't

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>matter what a coach, how motivated the coaches. But you know,

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe the I just don't see it happening. I see

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>it him winning this week, Washington winning. Yeah, I honestly,

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I do believe it's going to be about whoever's playing quarterback.

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think if You're right. If McCaffrey's back, that

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>changes everything because that's their big that's their big horse.

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>They get him back for this week, but that changes everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But why would you play him? You know? I mean,

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe the flip side of that, they don't

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>want Rivera to come in there and get that win, right,

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's it goes both ways, right, true? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, we'll see all. We're gonna take

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>our final break when we come back. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of questions for these guys. I don't know that

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to offensive, defense and special teams, but we

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>will start with one of them and see how far

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>we get, and maybe we'll say some of those other

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 1>questions for tomorrow. We'll do that when we come back.

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk a little bit about the Cowboys offense for

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<v Speaker 1>special teams for tomorrow. But let's talk first about this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to start by focusing in on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. We did, Nick. I know you mentioned something

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday about the offensive line, but I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from reg guys, how you assess the offensive line play

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole versus the forty nine ers. They did

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<v Speaker 1>some things decent, but obviously again not a great performance.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're at a point now where you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line is fixed. That being said, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you assess their play? Let's start first with you, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>The amount of stunting that the forty niners did in

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<v Speaker 1>that game was crazy, and it makes sense because it

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<v Speaker 1>confused those guys a lot. You know, there were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just a handful of plays where guys had free runs

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<v Speaker 1>at the quarterback just based off of stunts. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>understandable when you think about the number of guys who

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<v Speaker 1>were playing their first season. Um, I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was a tough day, you know, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the run game wasn't really there all day. Tony Pollard's

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<v Speaker 1>long run counts, but it's way more on Tony Pollard

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<v Speaker 1>than anything else. I mean, he did the legwork there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the offense was just not very attractive

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>in the second half of the of the game, and

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I think the offensive line play has a decent bit

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>to do with that. So you know, they played well

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>enough to win, and you know, you think about, you know,

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>there's talent on that San Francisco front even with Nick

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Bosa not being there, so good for them for hanging

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in there. But yeah, I mean that was that was

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 1>a tough day at work. I thought, you know, they

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>looked like a bunch of first year players going against

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a more experienced line. But what he thin. I think

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that what they're doing right now, I mean, with what

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>they have, it's something that can allow you to still

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.279
<v Speaker 1>get a win. But at the same time, it's not

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>an area where you go in thinking, Okay, this is

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>our strong point. We feel confident and secure with this

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>old line, but it's still I've seen some improvement week

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>to week. But at the same time, I mean, and

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>yesterday you talked about a specific play that Random Night

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>did that was bad, and there are bad moments here

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>and there, but just overall, I think that we've seen

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>an overall little improvement to where they don't necessarily stand

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 1>out every single play where you're like, oh my god,

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>this old line is absolutely terrible. They still do enough

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>to where you can still find yourself getting a win,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>whether it's even with the passing game, not necessarily with

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the running game, because that's another story there, but it

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>is what it is right now. I think that they're

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>doing what they can. And I am surprised to say this,

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>but still he's been making some improvement. I'm not ready

0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>to say he's the right kind of starter for you

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 1>just yet, but to give him credit after receiving so

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>much criticism throughout this whole season, I think it's it's

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>good that at least at this point of the year,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>we're finally getting to see some little bit of improvement

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.880
<v Speaker 1>from him. Yeah. I mean I think the line, you know,

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 1>it was a tough battle um Sunday, and they you know,

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>they hung in there and they you know, they it's

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>not it's not perfect, but you know, I do think

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>that that Steele has played better. I mean night. I mean,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about some some backups now that you know,

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>if you get through this season and you get to

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>next year and and and your guys come back, and

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, you're gonna think totally different about these

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>these year depth because you're like, well, these guys were starting,

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then they weren't that great, but they

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.160
<v Speaker 1>can start and they have and so if those or

0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>if six through ten has got a lot of starts

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>on your offensive line, and maybe you don't play ten guys,

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 1>but I mean, you know, if you're if your second

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>line is gonna be talented, I mean, are experienced, then

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>then that's a good thing moving forward. Do you think

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 1>any of these guys that are on the offensive line

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>have made a case, a strong case for heightened roles

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.320
<v Speaker 1>next season? Obviously most of them will not be starters,

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 1>although I do have one question for you about a starter,

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and let's start there. Do you think McGovern has done

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 1>enough to where maybe he could get some consideration for

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that left guard spot over Connor Williams will start with you, Nick, Well,

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean he might, he might do that, but he

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>also might spend the summer being a center. You know,

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>one of those Connors could be actually be playing center,

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they're better than be Oddish or literally well possibly,

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 1>you know mcgovernor. That was something that was mentioned from

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>McGovern when when he was drafted, that he could play

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>some center. So that that I mean, now Connor, you know,

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Carthon said he had his best game, you know, Connor Williams,

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's good, I mean competition. But I'm just saying

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>that might need something that you look at to see

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 1>if if can one of these guys play center, and

0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>if so, can they be better than Beottish? Yea, So

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a good problem to have, Dave. I think Tyler

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Bottish will be the starting center next year. And you know,

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure whether it's Connor McGovern splitting time or you know,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:30.960
<v Speaker 1>they signed you know, maybe they bring Joe Looney back.

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, he played well. I think, you know,

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was interesting, Kellen Moore said last night.

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore, which he's not the head coach, but he

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.720
<v Speaker 1>basically was like, you know, we really feel good about Tyler,

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna stick with Joe Looney because and I

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>think that's because of the continuity, you know, finally having

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a chance to start the same five guys for a while.

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>But I still, like, I was so impressed with Tyler

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Beiottish and again like follow the money, the cheap fourth

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick who's got three years left on his deal.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So I you know, I would say he's the prohibitive

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to start. Um. I think, you know, we keep trying

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>to take Connor Williams job away and he just keeps

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>getting more snaps he's the only member of this line

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that's played all year. You know, that's that's invaluable. He's

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna get, you know, a thousand snaps at left guard,

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's had to do it with lesser players, so

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.080
<v Speaker 1>stands to reason he'll, you know, he would probably look

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>better if he gets to go back to play with

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Tyron Smith. So we keep trying to take his job,

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna stop assuming it'll happen. So Tyler beattest, Yes,

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>but I know, I mean, you know, I would be

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>surprised if anybody else claims the starting job. If we

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.920
<v Speaker 1>can assume that Tyrn and Lyell will be back next year,

0:38:40.080 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 1>which you know, I hope, I hope, So I hope

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the case. Amber, I'm still fixated on the idea

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of wanting to see Connor Williams move to tackle and

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>give that position a try. Now every time if you

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 1>look at that scenario, I find it hard to actually

0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>imagine that the Cowboys would do this, because then that

0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>would mean you would be given a starting job to McGovern,

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 1>a younger guy, and take away a veteran guy, and

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:14.400
<v Speaker 1>he put him as a backup essentially to whatever tackle

0:39:14.520 --> 0:39:17.279
<v Speaker 1>because you're assuming that you're gonna have Lyle Collins and

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith Smith back in the lineup. So it's hard

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to imagine that a scenario like that where they take

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>a starter like Colonel Williams and just move him as

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.799
<v Speaker 1>a backup. But I still want to I still would

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 1>want to see that. I still would want to see

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys resigned Joe Looney because I still see him

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>as someone who is reliable. He's someone that can still

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>get the job done. And I just don't feel confident

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:49.839
<v Speaker 1>enough about the injuries, and we keep assuming that they're

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna all be healthy at the beginning of the year

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>next year for the next season, but you cannot trust

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.359
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen because we've seen it over and over

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and over again. So it's just one of those that

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>it scares me, the idea of getting comfortable about thinking, oh,

0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>these are the guys that we're going to have back

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>because of what might happen. But at the same time,

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. I think that's a tough one, Derek,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>because it's like you can see it going very very good,

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 1>but at the same time, you got in a taste

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>of what this year can look like. And me, I

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>want to see a successful running game. We keep talking

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:33.480
<v Speaker 1>about that Prescott coming back and all these wide receivers

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and all that, but I need I need a good

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>running game, and so therefore I need a good online

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that has good backups in case any of these injuries reoccur. Again.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's flip over to the wide receiver position.

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>We talked a little bit about it yesterday. We didn't

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>actually get into the subject though, of Noah Brown and

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>how they're really using the wide receivers from the standpoint

0:40:57.560 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of number of times I got them on the field

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>for snaps, how many staffs are getting in addition to

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 1>how many targets are getting. Yesterday and that I mean

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a Sunday. In that game, nor Brown gets six targets

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>and only one reception. Amari Cooper, on the other hand,

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>has three targets and two receptions. My question for you guys,

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>is is it normal? Is this a normal way to

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 1>rotate receivers, particularly your primary targets, and particularly in situations

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.759
<v Speaker 1>of the game, whether they are critical third downs where

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't have your best best receivers on the field

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.799
<v Speaker 1>you're opting to have. And this is not about Noah Brown,

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:32.439
<v Speaker 1>but just you don't have your best players on the field,

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're certainly not targeting your best players to try

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 1>to give them opportunities to be able to make plays.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's start first with few, Dave. I will let me

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 1>let me preface by saying this, because I think there's

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>two different there's two different ideas here. I really I

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:53.720
<v Speaker 1>hate hate the idea that like everybody on the offense

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>has to have a big day for it to be

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>a successful day. I think fantasy football has worked people's brains.

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's only one football and oh, by the way,

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you have a backup offensive line and a backup quarterback.

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 1>If Ceedee Lamb is having a great day, that might

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>not mean Michael Galloper Amari Cooper is going to have

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 1>this huge day. And that's okay, especially if you win

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the football game. Now, what I don't like is that

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown is a focal point of this offense when

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper's not. Like, if Amari Cooper is quiet because

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>everybody else is balling out, that's a okay. If Amari

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Cooper is not getting targeted because they're making this crazy

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>concerted effort to get the ball to Noah Brown, I

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>do not understand that. And I love Noah Brown. I

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>all like I've been one of the few people I

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like I've backed his entire career. I wanted him

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>on the team when nobody did. But that doesn't mean

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't I want him getting six targets in a

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>game where Amari Cooper goes by the wayside, Like, I

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. No, I don't think it's normal the

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 1>way they rotate these receivers where any one of the

0:42:57.840 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>big three might be out of the game for a

0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>pro period of time. And I know Michael Gallup got

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>hurt in this game, so maybe that's part of it,

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>But no, I thought it was bizarre. Kellen Moore was

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of asked about it yesterday and he was like, well,

0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>it stands to reason you want to go with the

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:16.480
<v Speaker 1>favorable matchup. Can't the favorable matchup be ceedee lamb? Then

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 1>like just Noah Browns like Noah Brown six targets, and

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>it certainly seemed like a lot of those were like

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a concerted effort, like this is a Noah Brown play,

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and it baffled me. So Amara Cooper doesn't have to

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.359
<v Speaker 1>be great every week if the offense is still good,

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but I still thought that that was really perplexing. I

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't get it. Amber No, I agree with everything that

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Dave said, it didn't make any sense to me. And

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's just my own memory or what,

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 1>but I feel that not just in that game, just

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in general throughout the whole season. This is a year

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.799
<v Speaker 1>where I feel that Amari Cooper has been very forgettable.

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Like there's nothing that necessarily stands out in my head

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>when I think about the passing game and him, and

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I just I feel that I would I don't know why.

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I would want the Cowboys to

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>utilize him a lot more. And I know you've got

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Ceedee Lamb and he's been a great player. I mean,

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 1>he's made some amazing catches. But at the same time,

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why not use all your best wide receivers.

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's not a matter of just one game specific

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I just think that that's how I see it throughout

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the season as a whole. So in this game specifically,

0:44:30.480 --> 0:44:35.440
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea why the Cowboys choice can't even

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>speak now, chose to target Noah Brown so many times

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>instead of other receivers. I don't know what Noah Brown

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>gives you you know, and he's a physical guy that

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>can be a blocker. And I don't know if I

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 1>said this on this show or somewhere else, but there's

0:44:53.960 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>one particular play where it's just like you ran a

0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 1>bubble screen to Noah Brown for for a block. I mean,

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Cooper is not a blocker, and Noah Brown is not

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:07.040
<v Speaker 1>really a playmaker like that. He can block, I mean

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>flip it like you know. Yeah, I did say them

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:10.719
<v Speaker 1>there because I said him, you know, I thought that,

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah him, it never blocked for Moose, Like, well, why

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you have to flip this around like that? So you know,

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>he just doesn't seem like a guy that's gonna go

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>up and just make a great catch and contested play.

0:45:21.640 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>He's just a your fourth or fifth receiver, big body

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.399
<v Speaker 1>guy can block something for you on the running game,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe play some special teams. Yeah, I just I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get that either. Yeah. It's a bit baffling. And especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you see the number of targets that that a

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Cooper got, you would think the reason why Mary

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper is making the money that he's making is because

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<v Speaker 1>he is an appreciably better wide receiver. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like in critical situations of the game, I

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<v Speaker 1>want my best wide receiver on the field, and if

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<v Speaker 1>he's not your best wide receiver, then don't pay him.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he's that guy he needs to be on

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<v Speaker 1>the field in those critical situations, then you need to

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<v Speaker 1>make a concern. If you're gonna make a concerned effort

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<v Speaker 1>to get anybody the ball, make a concerned effort to

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<v Speaker 1>get him the ball, because you're if I'll tell you this,

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<v Speaker 1>if No Round was a good matchup for them, I

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you, in the exact same situation, you replaced No

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<v Speaker 1>Brown with Amark Cooper. Mark Cooper isn't even better and

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<v Speaker 1>even better match Joe right, So give him more opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, I just I didn't get that. That

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<v Speaker 1>was completely baffling. I mean, what do you got, Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to I mean, maybe I have a

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<v Speaker 1>soft spot for Amari Cooper because I like the guy

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<v Speaker 1>and I do, but I just, I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to dog him too much. Like I think it's

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>actually amazing Amari Cooper is probably going to set a

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:34.759
<v Speaker 1>career high for catches and if he has, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's fifty yards away from a thousand, So

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<v Speaker 1>I would like, you know, as long as he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have two more games like Sundays, he should hit that mark.

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<v Speaker 1>And to do that in a year where he's had

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<v Speaker 1>to play with four quarterbacks and hasn't had his starting

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks since early October, I think he's had a really

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<v Speaker 1>nice season. And I mean, I think Amber's got a point.

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't had any of these crazy two hundred yard

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<v Speaker 1>days where he just took over a game like we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him do. But I think he's had a remarkably

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<v Speaker 1>productive season for the cast that he has been forced

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<v Speaker 1>to work with. Um, it doesn't mean he had a

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<v Speaker 1>great game on Sunday. I don't know how much of

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that is his fault. They didn't seem very interested in

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<v Speaker 1>targeting him, So I just, you know, I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want this to turn into a narrative of like,

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<v Speaker 1>why why did you pay Amari Cooper because he's actually

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<v Speaker 1>had a pretty damn good season for not having a quarterback. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And just to be clear, and I wasn't accusing you

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<v Speaker 1>of saying that, Yeah you know, I'm not, Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm just saying that for yeah, Yeah, no, I

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<v Speaker 1>would just saying I agree with you. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that for people at home. Yeah, I agree with Mark.

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Cooper has had a really good season. That's even more

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason why it's so baffling, Like, get him involved.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy has been playing really well this season. Even

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<v Speaker 1>in games when a lot of other people weren't showing up,

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:44.520
<v Speaker 1>he was playing pretty well. And so I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why they would throw so many balls into a

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Brown and so few to Amari Cooper in that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of situation. But they won the game. So going back

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<v Speaker 1>to Day's original point, when you win the game, it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just again, I just don't get why. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get why they did. Hey, maybe he thought it

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<v Speaker 1>a CD A couple of those times. They do look

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<v Speaker 1>very similar sometimes out there in the field. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you guys. You wantus back tomorrow, we'll have Bucky

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Brooks joining us. He'll give us a breakdown of the

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:13.800
<v Speaker 1>upcoming Cowboys versus Eagles. We'll do that when we on tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Till then for Nick even Dave Helmet, amber Garcia, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleston. This has been the break live on Dallas

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