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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the

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Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody, This is Peter Schreger. Listen to the

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Speaker 2: Season with Peter Schreger. We were recording this on a

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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning after July fourth. We took last week off

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Speaker 2: to just celebrate the independence of our country and our

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Speaker 2: amazing country that we have. Because this amazing country brings

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Speaker 2: us incredible things like hot dog eating contests, sons Joey Chestnut.

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Speaker 2: It gives us white parties, sons Peter Schrager, and it

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Speaker 2: gives us things like more anticipation for the NFL and

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Speaker 2: the football season that is coming. I want to start

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Speaker 2: this podcast by recapping two things. One a couple of

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, I was asked to be a part of

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Speaker 2: the Giants one hundred year anniversary event in New York City.

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Speaker 2: It was at Madison Square Garden. I was flattered to

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Speaker 2: be asked and I got to go there and I

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Speaker 2: got to interview Joe Shane and Brian Dable, the GM

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Speaker 2: and the head coach. And I also got to introduce

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Speaker 2: Pete Gogolac, an eighty three year old former New York

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Speaker 2: giant who's still as sharp as a whip and was

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Speaker 2: cool as hell. He was a Giants kicker for many

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Speaker 2: years and one of the true faces of that generation.

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Speaker 2: But then I was just backstage, and I was backstage,

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Speaker 2: and the coolest thing is like, I'm backstage and it's

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Speaker 2: Phil Simms and Eli Manning just talking, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, that's cool generationally, especially if you're in the

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Speaker 2: New York market and they're talking, it's fine. And then

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Speaker 2: in another conversation is Michael Strahan, Lawrence Taylor, and Kaevon Thibodeau,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, I gotta take a photo of this.

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Speaker 2: That is three generations of like Giants defensive superstars, two

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Speaker 2: of them Hall of famers, one of them the great

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Speaker 2: hope for New York Giants fans. And I came over

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Speaker 2: and I'm watching LT backstage talk with Thibodau. Now Thibodeau

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Speaker 2: has since told the story, but he asked LT for

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Speaker 2: some advice. They were talking back and forth and the

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Speaker 2: conversation went as this. LT says to Thibodeau, how many

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Speaker 2: sacks did you have your rookie season? And he said eleven.

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Speaker 2: And he looks at him and said, what did you

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Speaker 2: play in three games? I was dying laughing. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: all right, LT, LT's on one here. LT was great.

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Speaker 2: But then it was cool because it's it wasn't just

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Speaker 2: the superstar quarterbacks and defensive players like I had a

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Speaker 2: great conversation with David Tyree backstage and what he's got

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Speaker 2: going on. Amani Tumor, I haven't seen him in many years.

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Speaker 2: He was there, Tiki Barber, Carl Banks, Harry Carson. You

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Speaker 2: go through the list of guys and Victor Cruz from

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Speaker 2: this most recent generation before this team, and it feels

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Speaker 2: of expectations for this franchise in this season based on

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Speaker 2: what the legacy is talking about. Eight Championshi's four Super Bowls,

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Speaker 2: and it was really cool to be a part of

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Speaker 2: this event, and it kind of seamlessly goes into all right,

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Speaker 2: Hard Knocks the off season with HBO. Full disclosure, I've

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Speaker 2: been doing stuff with them, with like these recap pods

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Speaker 2: with them over the years. I've got a long history

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Speaker 2: of working with those guys, so I'm a Hard Knocks fan.

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Speaker 2: I was a little skeptical going in this is only

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Speaker 2: off season. They don't show any football training camp, and

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Speaker 2: it was just gonna be like for agency and the

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Speaker 2: draft and like Pro day's quite personally knowing that, all right, well,

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Speaker 2: the Giants probably have some editorial control all this day.

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Speaker 2: Do I need to watch this? Like we know what

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Speaker 2: happens Saquon leaves, and we know what happens they draft

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Speaker 2: the leak neighbors. So I go in here with like

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Speaker 2: just gonna be everyone being like Saquan's awesome. Oh he's

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Speaker 2: signing with the Eagles. Dang it. I gotta tell you

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Speaker 2: it was awesome. I've seen the first two episodes. I

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Speaker 2: round pick who we fall in love with, and there's

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Speaker 2: It's rare that me who's in the inside and who

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Speaker 2: it's cool. Two episodes in really Digging Hard Knocks and

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Speaker 2: the Giant stuff is neat. Now I'm in New York

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Speaker 2: all summer. I might not have realized it, but apparently

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Speaker 2: the Jets are winning the Super Bowl again, because everyone

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Speaker 2: want to get on the mic here, Aaron, you are

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Speaker 2: Like I thought that was last year. Jets fans have

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Speaker 2: learned their lesson. The media has learned their lesson. I

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Speaker 2: a show on July ninth and doing an hour long

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Speaker 2: show about you know and they're like, here are the

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Speaker 2: top five running backs based on an anonymous poll with

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Speaker 2: anonymous people, And it might have been pulled out of

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Speaker 2: running back in the entire league is Bryce Hall. I'm like, wow, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Then I saw an article saying PFF says that the

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Speaker 2: is all without even mentioning Rogers. I didn't think this,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do this again, But here we are, and

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Speaker 2: it's July ninth, and the Jets are the team that's

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Speaker 2: being hyped again. Aaron, did you see this coming?

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Speaker 3: Did you?

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Speaker 2: Are you feeling that as well?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: I have one very close friend who's a Giants fan actually,

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Speaker 4: but all summer he will find Aaron Rodgers tweets, copy

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Speaker 4: them off Twitter. He doesn't send the Twitter link, he

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Speaker 4: group chat. So every week I get two or three

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Speaker 4: new completely unhinged Aaron Rodgers hype.

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Speaker 3: What are this?

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Speaker 2: I don't follow Rogers, I don't really.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, aout, No, they got hacked.

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Speaker 4: This is like people saying I've spent ten years betting

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Speaker 4: It's about the heart of the player, and no one's

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Speaker 4: got more heart than Aaron Rodgers and you can't count

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Speaker 4: them out. And so I have been seeing I will

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Speaker 4: use the word unhinged hype for Rogers and the Jets

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Speaker 4: all summer long, to the point that it is that

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Speaker 2: They are they actually right? Yeah? And it might be

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Speaker 2: like I was thinking Jets might win the division. Now

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Speaker 2: I'm like, should I pick the Jets to win the AFC?

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Speaker 2: And don't even laugh? Like they have the personnel. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. This is what we do in July ninth,

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Speaker 2: So Giants one hundredth year. Giants, you know, the Giants

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Speaker 2: buttoned up shirt and tie, beautiful gala and then then Jets.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's you're watching ESPN and they've got the

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Speaker 2: It's like Giants and the Jets, and everyone's excited for

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Speaker 2: different reasons. And we'll see. But Hard Knocks one hundred recommend.

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Speaker 2: I also recommencing Inside Out too. Have you seen that, Aaron?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: The New Emotions were a surprisingly successful addition.

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Speaker 5: I love that series and I love the first one too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta say I was watching that with my

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Speaker 2: he understand this? He's seven, he's smiling, he's laughing. I'm crying.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching like this is beautiful. It's beautiful at the end.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a really great movie.

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Speaker 4: Was it last episode when we talked about the Tony's

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Speaker 4: Last Night? I Illinois again and it was just as incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let's wrapping up. I have a new hobby.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of Padel?

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Speaker 4: Yes, like the the European Uh. It's not pickleball, it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've played it.

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Speaker 2: Shrigger's all in when I talk. I'm playing Aaron. I'm

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Speaker 2: playing daily this summer. Wow, there's a Padell Court by me,

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Speaker 2: and there's one in Dumbo called Padell House. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I have heard in recent months that James Harden is

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Speaker 2: I missed it? Tennis was never accessible for me, Like

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Speaker 4: Let's do a hard Knocks you and I go play Padel.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, because you want you.

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Speaker 2: Want to hit it on the so here it is,

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Speaker 2: it's got walls and you're supposed to hit it off

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Speaker 2: it straight and they're telling you let it hit off

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Speaker 5: And I didn't register for me. I couldn't figure.

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Speaker 2: Something cool about it right now. And Djokovic had a

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Speaker 2: bit of the market share after a Wimbledon match. And

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Padell, if you're listening at home, padel

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Speaker 2: Go watch it on videos. Shrigger's all in. That's it,

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Speaker 2: And I think Aaron I would love to play with you.

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Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, let's go. I'll rewire my brain out

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, with no further ado, let's get

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Speaker 2: to our guest. One of the great young offensive minds

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Speaker 2: in football. His career is cool. Started off as a

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Speaker 2: he had to figure things out. He's going to take

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Speaker 2: us through it. Actually went from being a college football

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Speaker 6: So I actually heard back from Bobby Slowick. He was

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Speaker 2: This is amazing to me. So in Cincinnati, Ohio, you

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Speaker 6: for a couple of years and then this is amazing.

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00:20:50,066 --> 00:20:51,506
Speaker 2: I didn't know any of this. I love this.

431
00:20:52,986 --> 00:20:53,426
Speaker 3: Is Bobby.

432
00:20:53,466 --> 00:20:54,386
Speaker 2: He's twenty something.

433
00:20:54,746 --> 00:20:58,026
Speaker 6: Bobby's I think we're about to say it. He might

434
00:20:58,066 --> 00:21:00,706
Speaker 6: be a little younger than me, like maybe, right, So

435
00:21:00,786 --> 00:21:05,186
Speaker 6: we're all we're probably let's say, like twenty ninth, you know,

436
00:21:05,306 --> 00:21:09,586
Speaker 6: somewhere around there. And uh yeah, So Bobby and I were,

437
00:21:09,946 --> 00:21:13,666
Speaker 6: you know, breaking down coverages, watching film, just doing stuff

438
00:21:13,746 --> 00:21:15,266
Speaker 6: underneath the PFF umbrella.

439
00:21:15,346 --> 00:21:16,706
Speaker 3: But also you know.

440
00:21:16,666 --> 00:21:18,866
Speaker 6: I'm sure like like I was doing just kind of

441
00:21:18,866 --> 00:21:22,066
Speaker 6: had my own stuff with watching film, making you.

442
00:21:21,986 --> 00:21:24,066
Speaker 2: Guys in the room. Were you guys in the same

443
00:21:24,106 --> 00:21:25,186
Speaker 2: room watching stuff or was.

444
00:21:25,146 --> 00:21:28,226
Speaker 6: It he was in Bobby was in Cincinnati. I went

445
00:21:28,306 --> 00:21:29,346
Speaker 6: up there a couple of times.

446
00:21:29,546 --> 00:21:32,426
Speaker 3: I was living in Dallas where I was rehabbing my elbow,

447
00:21:32,466 --> 00:21:36,346
Speaker 3: and so so we would hop on calls all the time,

448
00:21:36,426 --> 00:21:37,786
Speaker 3: and I love this talk.

449
00:21:37,666 --> 00:21:41,386
Speaker 6: Through coverage, you know, everything that was pertaining to the

450
00:21:41,626 --> 00:21:43,866
Speaker 6: stuff with PFF, and then we would obviously have our

451
00:21:43,906 --> 00:21:45,746
Speaker 6: own conversations just about football on the.

452
00:21:45,706 --> 00:21:46,306
Speaker 3: Side as well.

453
00:21:46,386 --> 00:21:49,706
Speaker 6: So so yeah, I kind of just kept up with

454
00:21:49,946 --> 00:21:53,306
Speaker 6: around the league stuff with PFF right after that. And

455
00:21:53,346 --> 00:21:57,906
Speaker 6: then you know, I knew you know, as you know,

456
00:21:57,986 --> 00:22:00,066
Speaker 6: Shreg's like you got to have a wife that's like

457
00:22:00,346 --> 00:22:03,626
Speaker 6: all in on, Like okay, So I met my wife

458
00:22:03,626 --> 00:22:05,626
Speaker 6: and I kind of mentioned I was, you know, wanted

459
00:22:05,666 --> 00:22:06,746
Speaker 6: to get into coaching.

460
00:22:06,546 --> 00:22:09,306
Speaker 3: And she's like, yeah, of course, like this UD had

461
00:22:09,386 --> 00:22:14,906
Speaker 3: no idea, what it's your passion. So she was ultra supportive.

462
00:22:14,986 --> 00:22:20,346
Speaker 6: And and then yeah, I was actually training quarterback easton

463
00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:26,266
Speaker 6: Stick North Dakota State, Yeah, with with REP one and

464
00:22:26,346 --> 00:22:30,426
Speaker 6: there was a connection there with Sean I McVeigh and uh.

465
00:22:30,426 --> 00:22:33,146
Speaker 3: In that group, and so I got an interview.

466
00:22:32,866 --> 00:22:35,986
Speaker 6: With Sean and and then uh next day got got hired,

467
00:22:36,066 --> 00:22:39,306
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, obviously always gonna be forever grateful

468
00:22:39,346 --> 00:22:42,706
Speaker 6: for Sean gave me that first opportunity, but definitely moved fast,

469
00:22:43,506 --> 00:22:46,226
Speaker 6: you know, from that whole whole time of hey are

470
00:22:46,266 --> 00:22:49,626
Speaker 6: we you know, I'm working with PFF, I'm training guys

471
00:22:49,666 --> 00:22:51,626
Speaker 6: on the side, and okay, now.

472
00:22:51,466 --> 00:22:54,106
Speaker 3: We're in it, we're coaching, and so it definitely was

473
00:22:54,146 --> 00:22:56,546
Speaker 3: a whirlwind. But shoot, it's been it's been awesome.

474
00:22:56,986 --> 00:22:58,946
Speaker 2: When you're at PFF and you're doing all this stuff,

475
00:22:58,946 --> 00:23:02,666
Speaker 2: did you ever feel like imposter syndrome or like you

476
00:23:02,666 --> 00:23:04,706
Speaker 2: weren't in the cool crowd you're on the outside, Because

477
00:23:04,906 --> 00:23:06,666
Speaker 2: I think that's a humbling thing to be like, all right,

478
00:23:06,666 --> 00:23:08,666
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be with a team, I'm not

479
00:23:08,746 --> 00:23:11,266
Speaker 2: with it, but like I'm with this other organization. And

480
00:23:11,266 --> 00:23:12,706
Speaker 2: when we go to the combine, remember you and I

481
00:23:12,706 --> 00:23:14,706
Speaker 2: met when you were with PFF at the time, and

482
00:23:14,706 --> 00:23:16,746
Speaker 2: I'm like, Zach Robinson the former player, You're like, yeah,

483
00:23:16,786 --> 00:23:18,666
Speaker 2: of course, And I'm like, how cool is that? This

484
00:23:18,706 --> 00:23:21,266
Speaker 2: guy's like this is my access in it's not the

485
00:23:21,306 --> 00:23:24,786
Speaker 2: traditional route. Did you ever feel doubt going there? Like

486
00:23:24,866 --> 00:23:26,946
Speaker 2: you were so self confident that this is just what's

487
00:23:26,986 --> 00:23:28,586
Speaker 2: going to take for me to get to my path

488
00:23:28,626 --> 00:23:29,146
Speaker 2: to coaching.

489
00:23:29,626 --> 00:23:31,466
Speaker 3: You know, of course you want to be in the mix,

490
00:23:31,546 --> 00:23:33,746
Speaker 3: and that was the hardest thing. You're in the locker.

491
00:23:33,546 --> 00:23:36,626
Speaker 6: Room like as a player, and you just missed that

492
00:23:36,746 --> 00:23:40,986
Speaker 6: aspect of it. And so there were times where I

493
00:23:41,026 --> 00:23:42,706
Speaker 6: was like, man, I got I got to just jump in.

494
00:23:42,786 --> 00:23:45,586
Speaker 6: I had some opportunities to go to college, and I

495
00:23:45,626 --> 00:23:47,226
Speaker 6: really wanted to coach in the NFL, and so I

496
00:23:47,266 --> 00:23:49,666
Speaker 6: knew that as long as I was staying close to

497
00:23:49,706 --> 00:23:52,586
Speaker 6: the game and staying up with things that, you know,

498
00:23:52,586 --> 00:23:55,506
Speaker 6: hopefully an opportunity would come up. I was at a

499
00:23:55,506 --> 00:23:57,826
Speaker 6: point where, you know, before I got hired with the Rams,

500
00:23:57,866 --> 00:24:00,226
Speaker 6: I was I was like, all right, whatever opportunity comes, like,

501
00:24:00,306 --> 00:24:03,146
Speaker 6: we're going And so yeah, a couple you know, college

502
00:24:03,226 --> 00:24:05,986
Speaker 6: like Oregon and a couple of colleges that I was

503
00:24:05,986 --> 00:24:07,466
Speaker 6: looking to go to if I didn't.

504
00:24:07,266 --> 00:24:09,546
Speaker 3: Get a job with the Rams and Sean.

505
00:24:09,706 --> 00:24:13,226
Speaker 6: So but yeah, absolutely, you miss like just being with

506
00:24:13,266 --> 00:24:15,866
Speaker 6: the guys, Like that's why you want to get into coaching,

507
00:24:15,986 --> 00:24:18,626
Speaker 6: is being a part of something you know greater than yourself,

508
00:24:18,666 --> 00:24:22,306
Speaker 6: working towards a goal with a bunch of guys. So yeah,

509
00:24:22,386 --> 00:24:24,426
Speaker 6: I felt there was some imposters to them, you know,

510
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,746
Speaker 6: for sure, when I was working with PFF.

511
00:24:26,746 --> 00:24:29,866
Speaker 2: And you get there and the Rams guys love you.

512
00:24:29,906 --> 00:24:32,706
Speaker 2: Who's on that coaching staff those first couple of years.

513
00:24:32,746 --> 00:24:34,786
Speaker 2: I know it's been a rotating door, but let's go

514
00:24:34,826 --> 00:24:36,946
Speaker 2: through the tree just for the listeners can realize the

515
00:24:36,986 --> 00:24:38,706
Speaker 2: brain trust that was in the building.

516
00:24:38,746 --> 00:24:42,706
Speaker 6: Talking about unbelievable guys to be around and learn as

517
00:24:42,706 --> 00:24:45,306
Speaker 6: a young coach coming in like you're a player, but like.

518
00:24:45,306 --> 00:24:47,306
Speaker 3: You really have no idea until you get into it.

519
00:24:47,346 --> 00:24:50,226
Speaker 6: So my head's spinning. You know, there's so much to learn.

520
00:24:50,266 --> 00:24:53,466
Speaker 6: But I worked with Shane Waldron. I was an assistant

521
00:24:53,506 --> 00:24:55,946
Speaker 6: quarterback coach. Shane was a quarterback coach that first year.

522
00:24:56,986 --> 00:25:01,466
Speaker 6: Wes Phillips was on staff. You had Aaron Kromer, Kevin

523
00:25:01,506 --> 00:25:05,066
Speaker 6: O'Connell comes in the next year in twenty twenty, you

524
00:25:05,146 --> 00:25:07,706
Speaker 6: got Liam Cohen, who's one of my best buddies. I know,

525
00:25:07,986 --> 00:25:10,066
Speaker 6: shoot you and I you, Liam and I have had

526
00:25:10,066 --> 00:25:12,146
Speaker 6: some good times together at Sean's wedding.

527
00:25:13,506 --> 00:25:16,466
Speaker 3: And then you've got like Thomas Brown comes through.

528
00:25:16,546 --> 00:25:20,186
Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many guys, so many great coaches

529
00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:22,706
Speaker 6: that you're learning a ton from, like West Phillips to

530
00:25:22,826 --> 00:25:24,866
Speaker 6: this day, like I can, I can still hear some

531
00:25:24,946 --> 00:25:27,066
Speaker 6: of the things that I would hear Wes talk about,

532
00:25:27,106 --> 00:25:29,146
Speaker 6: whether it's with the tight Ends or in the past game.

533
00:25:29,186 --> 00:25:31,226
Speaker 3: And so you're around a bunch of good.

534
00:25:31,186 --> 00:25:34,346
Speaker 6: Dudes, all love ball, all with the same mindset and

535
00:25:35,586 --> 00:25:37,826
Speaker 6: just forever grateful to be around those guys, and those

536
00:25:37,826 --> 00:25:41,506
Speaker 6: guys just open up everything and to somebody that really

537
00:25:41,786 --> 00:25:43,386
Speaker 6: you know, you think you know, but like.

538
00:25:43,346 --> 00:25:45,346
Speaker 3: I said, you just have no idea until you're actually

539
00:25:45,346 --> 00:25:45,866
Speaker 3: in it.

540
00:25:45,986 --> 00:25:48,186
Speaker 2: What Sean's special sauce that you try to take with

541
00:25:48,266 --> 00:25:50,946
Speaker 2: you That all these guys work for them and they leave,

542
00:25:50,986 --> 00:25:53,226
Speaker 2: they go elsewhere, but there's never any bad blood and

543
00:25:53,266 --> 00:25:56,066
Speaker 2: it always feels like they take the best attributes that

544
00:25:56,106 --> 00:25:58,026
Speaker 2: he has. What what did you learn from McVeigh all

545
00:25:58,026 --> 00:25:59,426
Speaker 2: those years watching him run.

546
00:25:59,226 --> 00:26:02,466
Speaker 6: A room, most dynamic person as you know srace that

547
00:26:02,546 --> 00:26:05,506
Speaker 6: you'll you'll ever be around, you know, as a leader

548
00:26:05,546 --> 00:26:07,906
Speaker 6: from that standpoint point, The way that he can pull

549
00:26:07,946 --> 00:26:10,226
Speaker 6: guys together, the way that he can get the best

550
00:26:10,266 --> 00:26:12,866
Speaker 6: out of everybody, whether it's the top guys at the roster,

551
00:26:12,986 --> 00:26:17,266
Speaker 6: bottom guys at the roster, a young coach, older coaches everybody.

552
00:26:17,306 --> 00:26:20,826
Speaker 3: There's such an urgency with Sean. Uh, you know that he.

553
00:26:20,826 --> 00:26:23,266
Speaker 6: Wants to be the best that that just rises everybody

554
00:26:23,266 --> 00:26:25,906
Speaker 6: else in the building to his level, and so.

555
00:26:26,386 --> 00:26:30,306
Speaker 3: Always will be forever, you know, grateful for the.

556
00:26:30,306 --> 00:26:32,746
Speaker 6: Things that you know, whether I realize at the time

557
00:26:32,786 --> 00:26:34,786
Speaker 6: I was learning from them, but now that I have

558
00:26:35,026 --> 00:26:39,266
Speaker 6: kind of obviously been away for a few months, realize like, oh,

559
00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:41,786
Speaker 6: those little things that maybe I didn't really know at

560
00:26:41,786 --> 00:26:44,746
Speaker 6: the time are kind of creeping into my head about

561
00:26:45,026 --> 00:26:47,466
Speaker 6: something that came up in twenty twenty one or twenty

562
00:26:47,626 --> 00:26:50,666
Speaker 6: you know, just different, different experiences. Obviously was there for

563
00:26:50,706 --> 00:26:52,586
Speaker 6: five years, so got to see a lot of had

564
00:26:52,586 --> 00:26:54,986
Speaker 6: a lot of you know, ups, and there's obviously.

565
00:26:54,626 --> 00:26:56,946
Speaker 3: Some downs as well that just come with the game.

566
00:26:56,986 --> 00:27:01,906
Speaker 6: But but yeah, just so dynamic, the urgency, and then

567
00:27:02,186 --> 00:27:05,186
Speaker 6: obviously the way that Sean sees the game is unique

568
00:27:05,226 --> 00:27:06,746
Speaker 6: and it's you know, the best in the fell in

569
00:27:06,866 --> 00:27:09,946
Speaker 6: terms of, you know, how he can package plays and

570
00:27:10,506 --> 00:27:13,226
Speaker 6: put together a game plan and then feel the flow

571
00:27:13,266 --> 00:27:15,226
Speaker 6: of the game as it's going as a play caller,

572
00:27:15,346 --> 00:27:19,626
Speaker 6: and so all those things that you know, most people

573
00:27:19,706 --> 00:27:22,026
Speaker 6: hear about, but being able to see it up close

574
00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:25,146
Speaker 6: and just see him operate on a day to day basis. Shoot,

575
00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:28,186
Speaker 6: there's going to be things that fifteen twenty years down

576
00:27:28,186 --> 00:27:28,866
Speaker 6: the line, I'm going to.

577
00:27:28,906 --> 00:27:31,066
Speaker 3: Be still pulling from Sean. You know.

578
00:27:31,106 --> 00:27:34,186
Speaker 2: It's funny. I talked to him obviously, and that Super

579
00:27:34,226 --> 00:27:36,346
Speaker 2: Bowl season was such a ride, and there was so

580
00:27:36,426 --> 00:27:38,666
Speaker 2: much pressure and it was so cool to watch like

581
00:27:38,706 --> 00:27:41,906
Speaker 2: the Rams like actually finish and seal the deal, especially

582
00:27:41,906 --> 00:27:43,226
Speaker 2: the way he did in the final drive, and you

583
00:27:43,266 --> 00:27:47,786
Speaker 2: guys getting contributions from Ben Scaralna good like just figuring

584
00:27:47,826 --> 00:27:50,506
Speaker 2: it out and just piecing it together with Odell out

585
00:27:49,986 --> 00:27:53,746
Speaker 2: and you know, injury issues everywhere else and still getting

586
00:27:53,746 --> 00:27:57,266
Speaker 2: away to get the super Bowl last year twenty twenty two.

587
00:27:57,586 --> 00:28:00,346
Speaker 2: Down year, but there were some learning things. I think

588
00:28:00,386 --> 00:28:02,426
Speaker 2: Sean had more fun and I could tell that this

589
00:28:02,546 --> 00:28:06,066
Speaker 2: team really enjoyed the twenty twenty three season almost as

590
00:28:06,146 --> 00:28:09,026
Speaker 2: much as the Super Bowl season, being there first and

591
00:28:09,026 --> 00:28:12,586
Speaker 2: and having no expectations going into the season. People talking

592
00:28:12,586 --> 00:28:16,106
Speaker 2: about the Rams tanking for Caleb Williams and no where

593
00:28:16,106 --> 00:28:17,946
Speaker 2: a couple of months removed. But just like how cool

594
00:28:17,986 --> 00:28:20,026
Speaker 2: was last year's ride getting to the wildcard rat and

595
00:28:20,026 --> 00:28:21,466
Speaker 2: almost beating the Lions in their building.

596
00:28:22,026 --> 00:28:24,226
Speaker 6: It was a blast, Like just the reset that it

597
00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:27,186
Speaker 6: took from that twenty twenty two season. Like you mentioned

598
00:28:28,146 --> 00:28:30,346
Speaker 6: to showing up that first day of the twenty twenty

599
00:28:30,346 --> 00:28:33,186
Speaker 6: three offseason, it was like, hey, like, we're attacking this

600
00:28:33,186 --> 00:28:34,786
Speaker 6: thing and we're going to go all in.

601
00:28:35,106 --> 00:28:37,026
Speaker 3: We're going to be there for each other every single day.

602
00:28:37,026 --> 00:28:41,746
Speaker 6: And Sean's resiliency through the whole thing was obviously spread

603
00:28:41,746 --> 00:28:44,546
Speaker 6: throughout the building and it was a blast.

604
00:28:44,546 --> 00:28:46,906
Speaker 3: Though we had we had fun. It was obviously you

605
00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:47,946
Speaker 3: got Matthew.

606
00:28:47,586 --> 00:28:52,266
Speaker 6: Stafford and his level of urgency raises the entire building

607
00:28:52,306 --> 00:28:54,266
Speaker 6: as well. He played out of his mind, you know,

608
00:28:54,386 --> 00:28:58,146
Speaker 6: especially down down the stretch there, and then just you know,

609
00:28:58,186 --> 00:29:01,026
Speaker 6: obviously Puka and the way the offensive line played and

610
00:29:01,066 --> 00:29:03,906
Speaker 6: the way that the defensive defense played. I mean, you

611
00:29:03,986 --> 00:29:06,226
Speaker 6: go into that season and you're looking around and you're like,

612
00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:08,346
Speaker 6: man out, how's this gonna all come together?

613
00:29:08,426 --> 00:29:10,426
Speaker 3: And the way that that Rod got those guys going

614
00:29:10,426 --> 00:29:10,746
Speaker 3: on that.

615
00:29:10,746 --> 00:29:13,906
Speaker 6: Side of the ball, It was just a cool It

616
00:29:13,946 --> 00:29:16,266
Speaker 6: was something like you mentioned, like the twenty one season.

617
00:29:16,306 --> 00:29:18,106
Speaker 3: Obviously that's that was pretty special.

618
00:29:18,146 --> 00:29:21,706
Speaker 6: But I think we'll always remember that season, those guys

619
00:29:21,706 --> 00:29:23,506
Speaker 6: that were in it, and just knowing that feeling of

620
00:29:23,506 --> 00:29:26,306
Speaker 6: what it was like starting that offseason. Uh, and then

621
00:29:26,426 --> 00:29:29,026
Speaker 6: just the messaging that was so consistent throughout the year

622
00:29:29,826 --> 00:29:31,306
Speaker 6: from Sean and from from the.

623
00:29:31,306 --> 00:29:34,186
Speaker 3: Rest of the staff that it was a special year.

624
00:29:34,266 --> 00:29:37,586
Speaker 6: Still wish we could have obviously kept going there, but

625
00:29:37,626 --> 00:29:39,546
Speaker 6: that was a tough atmosphere up in Detroit.

626
00:29:39,586 --> 00:29:42,506
Speaker 3: Man, that place was rock down as an unbelievable game.

627
00:29:42,946 --> 00:29:44,826
Speaker 2: Give me a good Pukah story, Like when did you

628
00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:47,266
Speaker 2: know that this kid, Puka Nakua was going to be

629
00:29:47,266 --> 00:29:49,186
Speaker 2: a special fifth round pick out of BYU. There's a

630
00:29:49,186 --> 00:29:51,946
Speaker 2: little buzz in training camp, but then yeah, one of

631
00:29:51,946 --> 00:29:54,026
Speaker 2: the greatest seasons we've ever seen from a rookie receiver.

632
00:29:54,626 --> 00:29:57,906
Speaker 6: Like in the spring, you saw like his aggressive hands.

633
00:29:57,946 --> 00:30:00,666
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got unbelievable hands. Like Stafford I remember

634
00:30:00,706 --> 00:30:02,186
Speaker 6: always to be like, I feel like I can throw

635
00:30:02,226 --> 00:30:04,466
Speaker 6: the ball as hard as I want to when he's

636
00:30:04,506 --> 00:30:07,106
Speaker 6: five yards away and he's just gonna pluck it. And

637
00:30:07,186 --> 00:30:09,506
Speaker 6: so that comfort for a guy like Matthew who's going

638
00:30:09,546 --> 00:30:11,426
Speaker 6: to put it into some tight windows, You're like, okay.

639
00:30:11,826 --> 00:30:13,746
Speaker 6: And then you see him moving around and he was

640
00:30:13,786 --> 00:30:17,386
Speaker 6: slipping a little bit running some routes and he's learning, uh,

641
00:30:17,466 --> 00:30:19,346
Speaker 6: you know, just the route tree that that he's going

642
00:30:19,386 --> 00:30:22,346
Speaker 6: to be asked to do in that offense. And but

643
00:30:22,466 --> 00:30:25,306
Speaker 6: really I think it was like the first couple of

644
00:30:25,346 --> 00:30:27,746
Speaker 6: weeks of camp, like you saw once the pads really

645
00:30:27,746 --> 00:30:29,906
Speaker 6: came on, you saw how physical he was, and you

646
00:30:29,946 --> 00:30:33,706
Speaker 6: saw just like just his mentality day to day when

647
00:30:33,746 --> 00:30:36,266
Speaker 6: he was playing football, like he he just was an

648
00:30:36,306 --> 00:30:40,506
Speaker 6: absolute dog. And so him on game days, like I mean,

649
00:30:40,506 --> 00:30:42,506
Speaker 6: you've seen his hair like it's going everywhere.

650
00:30:42,586 --> 00:30:43,706
Speaker 3: Like there'd be times where.

651
00:30:43,506 --> 00:30:45,626
Speaker 6: Like he'd be sitting on the bench like this and

652
00:30:45,626 --> 00:30:48,746
Speaker 6: he's got he looks like wolverine like coming down.

653
00:30:48,586 --> 00:30:52,066
Speaker 3: Out and you're like, Poka, you gun. He's like yes, coach,

654
00:30:52,186 --> 00:30:55,386
Speaker 3: you know, and you're just like, oh, this guy. Yeah.

655
00:30:55,426 --> 00:30:57,906
Speaker 6: So he's one of those guys that the lights come

656
00:30:57,946 --> 00:31:00,106
Speaker 6: on and he's just a football player and.

657
00:31:01,746 --> 00:31:03,866
Speaker 3: He's he's a great player.

658
00:31:04,826 --> 00:31:08,786
Speaker 2: Obviously, you've got relationship chips all over the league. Raheem Morris, though,

659
00:31:09,466 --> 00:31:11,466
Speaker 2: he taps you on the shoulder and says, hey, let's

660
00:31:11,546 --> 00:31:13,466
Speaker 2: let's take whatever we got here in LA and let's

661
00:31:13,466 --> 00:31:16,266
Speaker 2: bring this juice to it Atlanta. Come with me. That's

662
00:31:16,306 --> 00:31:19,026
Speaker 2: a big decision to leave, but you did. You took

663
00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:22,146
Speaker 2: the leap of faith. What's Raheem bring to the table

664
00:31:22,186 --> 00:31:24,106
Speaker 2: And how excited are you to start this new chapter

665
00:31:24,146 --> 00:31:24,706
Speaker 2: in your career?

666
00:31:25,146 --> 00:31:28,106
Speaker 6: Don Pumps to work with Row and E's offices were

667
00:31:28,186 --> 00:31:30,186
Speaker 6: right across from each other for the last three years,

668
00:31:30,226 --> 00:31:33,386
Speaker 6: so we're constantly popping in and out, Hey, come check

669
00:31:33,426 --> 00:31:35,666
Speaker 6: this out. And so it was really able to learn

670
00:31:35,706 --> 00:31:38,386
Speaker 6: a ton from a defensive perspective from Raw. But then

671
00:31:38,986 --> 00:31:41,426
Speaker 6: you know, most people know that he coached receivers, but

672
00:31:41,506 --> 00:31:43,426
Speaker 6: Ros's got a great offensive mine as well.

673
00:31:43,506 --> 00:31:45,466
Speaker 3: So that's what's exciting for me is the first time

674
00:31:45,506 --> 00:31:47,106
Speaker 3: doing this knowing.

675
00:31:46,826 --> 00:31:48,906
Speaker 6: That, you know, I got a head coach and a

676
00:31:48,946 --> 00:31:51,066
Speaker 6: guy that first of all, I love being around every

677
00:31:51,106 --> 00:31:53,266
Speaker 6: single day, and you know, Raw, like guys that know him,

678
00:31:53,306 --> 00:31:56,146
Speaker 6: it's like he's never had a bad Day's best dude ever.

679
00:31:56,186 --> 00:31:58,586
Speaker 2: Agree, might be the most charismatic person in.

680
00:31:58,546 --> 00:32:02,746
Speaker 3: Football, honestly, maybe that I've ever met. And I think mc.

681
00:32:02,706 --> 00:32:04,946
Speaker 2: Veigh would say that too, like Sean would say that

682
00:32:04,986 --> 00:32:05,346
Speaker 2: as well.

683
00:32:05,826 --> 00:32:08,466
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. Both those guys together, I mean, you

684
00:32:08,506 --> 00:32:11,026
Speaker 3: can't get a word in, so you just sit there listen.

685
00:32:11,106 --> 00:32:15,346
Speaker 6: But but not Rod's the best and great defensive mind,

686
00:32:15,386 --> 00:32:17,706
Speaker 6: but I'm he loves offense, so it's fun.

687
00:32:17,906 --> 00:32:18,066
Speaker 3: You know.

688
00:32:18,146 --> 00:32:20,186
Speaker 6: Shoot, we're texting a couple of weeks ago, Hey what

689
00:32:20,226 --> 00:32:22,546
Speaker 6: if we did this on this and so to have

690
00:32:22,706 --> 00:32:25,826
Speaker 6: that from a head coach going into it for the

691
00:32:25,826 --> 00:32:28,346
Speaker 6: first time knowing that I'm going to have some blind

692
00:32:28,346 --> 00:32:31,186
Speaker 6: spots that need to be filled. Pump to work with Rock,

693
00:32:31,226 --> 00:32:33,906
Speaker 6: continue to keep learning from him the way that he

694
00:32:33,946 --> 00:32:36,586
Speaker 6: sees the game on both sides of the football Situationally,

695
00:32:37,266 --> 00:32:39,546
Speaker 6: he's going to help me out a ton. So definitely

696
00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:42,266
Speaker 6: pumped to get a going and knowing it's going to

697
00:32:42,306 --> 00:32:45,586
Speaker 6: be a fun work environment no matter what through the

698
00:32:45,586 --> 00:32:47,866
Speaker 6: ebbs of the flows. Rod has not changed from day

699
00:32:47,906 --> 00:32:51,106
Speaker 6: to day, so it'll be it'll be fun fun season,

700
00:32:51,306 --> 00:32:52,666
Speaker 6: challenging of course.

701
00:32:52,386 --> 00:32:55,266
Speaker 3: But definitely excited to work with rob and the rest

702
00:32:55,266 --> 00:32:55,706
Speaker 3: of the guys.

703
00:32:56,026 --> 00:32:59,506
Speaker 2: All Right, So the Falcons offensive roster, I mean, I

704
00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:03,186
Speaker 2: think of the first team since the fifties. I remember

705
00:33:03,226 --> 00:33:05,346
Speaker 2: the stat the draft to draft a skill position in

706
00:33:05,426 --> 00:33:09,586
Speaker 2: the top eight, like four straight years you get Pitt's

707
00:33:09,626 --> 00:33:13,266
Speaker 2: in London, b Jehan, Robinson and now Pennix. When you

708
00:33:13,306 --> 00:33:15,546
Speaker 2: look at this roster on paper, and then we're gonna

709
00:33:15,546 --> 00:33:17,506
Speaker 2: get into what you're seeing on the field in the spring.

710
00:33:17,546 --> 00:33:19,786
Speaker 2: But like this has to be a dream commetry you

711
00:33:19,786 --> 00:33:21,866
Speaker 2: also have Algier the other running back who I love

712
00:33:21,906 --> 00:33:24,146
Speaker 2: that at BYU. They guys can can gobble up yards.

713
00:33:24,146 --> 00:33:25,746
Speaker 2: If you guys have a loaded roster on offense, it

714
00:33:25,826 --> 00:33:27,506
Speaker 2: just hasn't all come together yet. That's a great place

715
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:28,066
Speaker 2: to walk into.

716
00:33:28,746 --> 00:33:31,426
Speaker 6: No, one hundred percent, definitely very fortunate to walk into

717
00:33:31,426 --> 00:33:33,866
Speaker 6: a situation like this doesn't happen very often.

718
00:33:34,466 --> 00:33:34,666
Speaker 3: You know.

719
00:33:34,706 --> 00:33:36,786
Speaker 6: The one thing that we weren't sure about, you know

720
00:33:36,786 --> 00:33:39,146
Speaker 6: obviously when Rob got the job and we were coming

721
00:33:39,186 --> 00:33:40,546
Speaker 6: with him, was the quarterback.

722
00:33:41,146 --> 00:33:42,706
Speaker 3: I got solved with signing Kirk.

723
00:33:42,746 --> 00:33:45,826
Speaker 6: And so if you were to say, which job is

724
00:33:45,866 --> 00:33:48,546
Speaker 6: the best job out there, and Kirk Cousins is a quarterback,

725
00:33:48,546 --> 00:33:50,746
Speaker 6: You're like, I mean, it's it's obviously a no brainer.

726
00:33:50,786 --> 00:33:52,626
Speaker 6: It's a really good spot to be. So very lucky

727
00:33:52,626 --> 00:33:56,426
Speaker 6: that we got some great guys. The guys here personnel wise,

728
00:33:56,626 --> 00:33:59,666
Speaker 6: you know, Terry, Kyle Smith, Ryan Pace, those guys have

729
00:33:59,706 --> 00:34:02,226
Speaker 6: done an unbelievable job. As similar to roster, it's a

730
00:34:02,266 --> 00:34:04,666
Speaker 6: bunch of great guys that love football, very similar to

731
00:34:04,746 --> 00:34:05,906
Speaker 6: how it was set up in LA.

732
00:34:05,986 --> 00:34:09,146
Speaker 3: Just like gys that love ball. You know that are

733
00:34:09,666 --> 00:34:10,666
Speaker 3: you know, really talented?

734
00:34:10,706 --> 00:34:13,466
Speaker 6: So uh, you look at John you look at Drake,

735
00:34:13,586 --> 00:34:16,306
Speaker 6: you look at Kyle Pitts, and then the offensive line

736
00:34:16,346 --> 00:34:17,506
Speaker 6: is really what makes that thing go.

737
00:34:17,626 --> 00:34:21,386
Speaker 3: And so, uh, guys, yeah, I mean you go left

738
00:34:21,386 --> 00:34:24,866
Speaker 3: to right. Jake Jake Matthews looks like he might play

739
00:34:24,866 --> 00:34:25,666
Speaker 3: another ten years.

740
00:34:25,706 --> 00:34:29,106
Speaker 6: Honestly, I mean he looks great. He's had an unbelievable career.

741
00:34:29,706 --> 00:34:32,786
Speaker 6: Matthew burg around the left guard, second year out of Syracuse.

742
00:34:33,186 --> 00:34:35,186
Speaker 6: He's going to continue to make sures. Expect him to

743
00:34:35,226 --> 00:34:36,986
Speaker 6: be one of the better guards in the league. Drew Dolmen,

744
00:34:37,026 --> 00:34:39,466
Speaker 6: the center from Stanford, fourth round pick. We loved him

745
00:34:39,746 --> 00:34:42,306
Speaker 6: in LA when he was coming out and so and

746
00:34:42,346 --> 00:34:45,146
Speaker 6: then you got the best guard in football in Lindstrom

747
00:34:46,106 --> 00:34:48,386
Speaker 6: who his his work ethic and just the way that

748
00:34:48,466 --> 00:34:50,866
Speaker 6: he plays the game is just like he doesn't have

749
00:34:50,906 --> 00:34:52,746
Speaker 6: to say anything, but you see hit the way that

750
00:34:52,786 --> 00:34:54,546
Speaker 6: he plays and that raises everybody's level.

751
00:34:54,986 --> 00:34:55,226
Speaker 3: Uh.

752
00:34:55,266 --> 00:34:57,426
Speaker 6: And then you got big Caleb McGarry over there, the

753
00:34:57,506 --> 00:35:01,746
Speaker 6: right tackle, who's a monster. So having that that solidified

754
00:35:01,866 --> 00:35:04,586
Speaker 6: is his big time, especially for you know, for the

755
00:35:04,666 --> 00:35:08,106
Speaker 6: QBS and for for us in the game. You know,

756
00:35:08,146 --> 00:35:10,026
Speaker 6: being able to hold up up front, we should be

757
00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:12,786
Speaker 6: able to run the football. So there's a lot of

758
00:35:12,786 --> 00:35:14,986
Speaker 6: great things, got a long way to go. It was

759
00:35:15,026 --> 00:35:17,706
Speaker 6: pumped about where we left the spring off. But shoot,

760
00:35:17,746 --> 00:35:19,546
Speaker 6: as you know, and you're one of the system, like

761
00:35:19,586 --> 00:35:21,106
Speaker 6: there's there's so many things.

762
00:35:20,826 --> 00:35:23,266
Speaker 3: To cover, and so we still got a long way

763
00:35:23,266 --> 00:35:23,506
Speaker 3: to go.

764
00:35:23,626 --> 00:35:25,826
Speaker 6: Wish we could actually start tomorrow just to make sure

765
00:35:26,226 --> 00:35:29,226
Speaker 6: we get everything going, But we got we got plenty of.

766
00:35:29,106 --> 00:35:31,666
Speaker 2: Time, long way to go. First, you're in the system,

767
00:35:31,746 --> 00:35:33,986
Speaker 2: and yet no one has seen it on film yet,

768
00:35:33,986 --> 00:35:37,266
Speaker 2: which gives you an advantage as well. Bjean Robinson, just

769
00:35:37,306 --> 00:35:39,746
Speaker 2: take a minute to just what you looked at in college,

770
00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:42,066
Speaker 2: what you looked at last year, and just I have

771
00:35:42,146 --> 00:35:44,626
Speaker 2: to imagine when you're an offensive coordinator and you're given

772
00:35:44,706 --> 00:35:48,426
Speaker 2: something like that, that talent passing game, the running game,

773
00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:51,306
Speaker 2: the blocking game, like you have to be just like,

774
00:35:51,386 --> 00:35:53,466
Speaker 2: how do I limit my usage on this guy because

775
00:35:53,466 --> 00:35:54,746
Speaker 2: I want to use it every single play?

776
00:35:55,346 --> 00:35:58,026
Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt, one hundred percent. That's that's that is Honestly,

777
00:35:58,066 --> 00:35:59,426
Speaker 6: it's a it's a good problem to have.

778
00:35:59,466 --> 00:36:01,946
Speaker 3: But you're exactly right. But the first time.

779
00:36:01,866 --> 00:36:05,666
Speaker 6: I saw Bijeon was we had a bye week in

780
00:36:05,746 --> 00:36:09,106
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, went back to Oklahoma State. They were

781
00:36:09,146 --> 00:36:11,266
Speaker 6: playing Texas that week. Had a bunch of family that

782
00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:14,946
Speaker 6: was there, so went to the game. Had known Bijon

783
00:36:14,986 --> 00:36:17,066
Speaker 6: because I watched a ton of college football, but seeing

784
00:36:17,146 --> 00:36:19,066
Speaker 6: him play in person, I was like, you can give

785
00:36:19,106 --> 00:36:20,546
Speaker 6: this ball and you can get his got a ball

786
00:36:20,626 --> 00:36:22,666
Speaker 6: every single play and he's gonna make a play. And

787
00:36:22,866 --> 00:36:24,826
Speaker 6: I think he had one hundred and fifty yards rushing

788
00:36:25,746 --> 00:36:27,106
Speaker 6: over fifty yards receiving.

789
00:36:27,426 --> 00:36:30,306
Speaker 3: I mean, they end up losing the game. The Yewers

790
00:36:30,346 --> 00:36:30,986
Speaker 3: threw a few.

791
00:36:30,826 --> 00:36:35,146
Speaker 6: Picks in Oklhoma State won, But that was my first

792
00:36:35,146 --> 00:36:36,706
Speaker 6: time seeing him play in person.

793
00:36:36,746 --> 00:36:38,386
Speaker 3: I was like, this guy's, you know, gonna be an

794
00:36:38,426 --> 00:36:39,066
Speaker 3: unbelievable pro.

795
00:36:39,186 --> 00:36:41,426
Speaker 6: And then seeing him up close, you know, he was

796
00:36:41,426 --> 00:36:43,666
Speaker 6: a little bit banged up in the spring, so we

797
00:36:43,706 --> 00:36:46,426
Speaker 6: only got to see just a couple of weeks of him.

798
00:36:46,586 --> 00:36:49,266
Speaker 3: But he'll be full go, ready to go once camp starts.

799
00:36:49,306 --> 00:36:51,546
Speaker 6: But you just throw on the tape from last year

800
00:36:51,666 --> 00:36:55,586
Speaker 6: and his ability to make guys miss and there's really

801
00:36:55,626 --> 00:36:56,586
Speaker 6: nothing he can't do.

802
00:36:57,626 --> 00:36:58,906
Speaker 3: But it's still.

803
00:36:58,866 --> 00:37:01,146
Speaker 6: Priority is like, hey, you're a running back, we can

804
00:37:01,186 --> 00:37:04,226
Speaker 6: certainly use you out of the backfield as a receiver.

805
00:37:04,626 --> 00:37:07,306
Speaker 6: I mean he can run wide receivers routes, but you

806
00:37:07,386 --> 00:37:09,386
Speaker 6: just obviously don't want to overload him too much, like

807
00:37:09,426 --> 00:37:12,106
Speaker 6: you were kind of alluding to, but excited to work

808
00:37:12,146 --> 00:37:16,026
Speaker 6: with the John's a great, great guy, just loves ball,

809
00:37:16,146 --> 00:37:19,986
Speaker 6: like he's watching Christian McCaffrey and watching running backs around

810
00:37:20,026 --> 00:37:21,906
Speaker 6: the league. Like he has that mindset that he wants

811
00:37:21,946 --> 00:37:24,866
Speaker 6: to be the best. So looking forward to uh, you know,

812
00:37:24,946 --> 00:37:26,946
Speaker 6: to give the ball as much as we can to John.

813
00:37:27,026 --> 00:37:30,426
Speaker 2: For sure, Kyle Pitts a real early pick for a

814
00:37:30,506 --> 00:37:32,786
Speaker 2: tight end. What's interesting with him is that, like he was,

815
00:37:32,866 --> 00:37:34,986
Speaker 2: He's got these high expectations. I'm not for sure he's

816
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:38,026
Speaker 2: ever going to reach what people expected of him, but

817
00:37:38,466 --> 00:37:40,666
Speaker 2: he still puts up numbers, he still has good season.

818
00:37:40,666 --> 00:37:42,546
Speaker 2: It's like, are you excited to get your hands on

819
00:37:42,626 --> 00:37:44,626
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts and kind of get the most out of him?

820
00:37:44,946 --> 00:37:45,866
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

821
00:37:45,986 --> 00:37:49,066
Speaker 6: I think Kyle is excited to First of all, you know,

822
00:37:49,106 --> 00:37:50,306
Speaker 6: he was banged up a little.

823
00:37:50,106 --> 00:37:53,226
Speaker 3: Bit last year, so he was, you know, battling through

824
00:37:53,346 --> 00:37:56,146
Speaker 3: some injuries. And but from.

825
00:37:55,906 --> 00:37:58,506
Speaker 6: The jump, right when you know we got the job here,

826
00:37:58,746 --> 00:38:00,346
Speaker 6: Kyle was like one of the first ones in the

827
00:38:00,346 --> 00:38:03,466
Speaker 6: building coming It's up to raw saying you know, sitting

828
00:38:03,506 --> 00:38:06,506
Speaker 6: in my office hanging out with t J. Yeats and

829
00:38:06,906 --> 00:38:09,426
Speaker 6: Kevin Koger new tight end coach like he was around

830
00:38:10,066 --> 00:38:13,306
Speaker 6: in you know, March and before the guys even got there.

831
00:38:13,346 --> 00:38:16,586
Speaker 6: So his level of urgency, he wants to take that

832
00:38:16,626 --> 00:38:18,466
Speaker 6: next step. He wants to be a complete tight end.

833
00:38:18,546 --> 00:38:21,146
Speaker 6: I think it's underrated how good of a blocker he

834
00:38:21,226 --> 00:38:23,866
Speaker 6: actually is. You know, you see, you know the receiver skills,

835
00:38:23,906 --> 00:38:26,546
Speaker 6: but you know, when he wants to put his hand

836
00:38:26,586 --> 00:38:28,866
Speaker 6: on the ground and block, he can do it. He

837
00:38:28,946 --> 00:38:31,666
Speaker 6: wants to he wants to do it all and that's well,

838
00:38:31,826 --> 00:38:32,866
Speaker 6: that's what we'll do with him.

839
00:38:33,826 --> 00:38:35,826
Speaker 3: But excited for him to take a big step.

840
00:38:35,866 --> 00:38:37,826
Speaker 6: I know he's he's chomping at the bit to kind

841
00:38:37,826 --> 00:38:39,986
Speaker 6: of get some a little bit of a bad taste

842
00:38:39,986 --> 00:38:41,506
Speaker 6: out of his mouth from last year, which a lot

843
00:38:41,506 --> 00:38:44,346
Speaker 6: of it, like I said, was injuries, but no pump to.

844
00:38:44,346 --> 00:38:46,546
Speaker 3: Work with him. Seeing the rapport that him and Kirk

845
00:38:46,586 --> 00:38:49,066
Speaker 3: got going during the spring a little bit was encouraging.

846
00:38:49,146 --> 00:38:51,546
Speaker 3: So it's all positive for Kyle.

847
00:38:51,946 --> 00:38:53,706
Speaker 2: All right, let's go through the timeline real quick.

848
00:38:53,746 --> 00:38:53,906
Speaker 3: Here.

849
00:38:53,906 --> 00:38:58,546
Speaker 2: You get the job in January. February's the combine March

850
00:38:58,626 --> 00:39:02,586
Speaker 2: you guys signed Kirk Cousins April's to draft. Do you

851
00:39:02,626 --> 00:39:06,226
Speaker 2: remember like the fifteen minutes at the combine with Michael Pennix?

852
00:39:06,466 --> 00:39:09,506
Speaker 2: Is there a fifteen minute meeting like I I just

853
00:39:09,746 --> 00:39:12,746
Speaker 2: take me through the Cousin's pick and then when did

854
00:39:12,786 --> 00:39:15,626
Speaker 2: you have a feeling that, Okay, Pennis, there's something to

855
00:39:15,666 --> 00:39:17,146
Speaker 2: this kid if he's there at eight as well?

856
00:39:17,826 --> 00:39:20,466
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we u So we sent so TJ.

857
00:39:20,666 --> 00:39:23,346
Speaker 6: Yates and ken zaymps went to the combine and interviewed

858
00:39:23,386 --> 00:39:26,786
Speaker 6: all those quarterbacks. So we you know, videoed it and

859
00:39:27,226 --> 00:39:29,386
Speaker 6: we ended up watching it later on that night after

860
00:39:29,426 --> 00:39:33,546
Speaker 6: we interviewed. Mike had known about you know, Mike just

861
00:39:33,546 --> 00:39:37,026
Speaker 6: from watching college football and obviously Washington was on a

862
00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:39,386
Speaker 6: ton over the last couple of years, and I mean

863
00:39:39,426 --> 00:39:41,866
Speaker 6: you're seeing all the explosive plays that him and those

864
00:39:41,906 --> 00:39:44,866
Speaker 6: three receivers are making, you know, all over the place,

865
00:39:44,906 --> 00:39:47,666
Speaker 6: and so you know, you're studying the film and you

866
00:39:47,786 --> 00:39:50,626
Speaker 6: signed Kirk, and you're you're so pumped about that to

867
00:39:50,706 --> 00:39:53,906
Speaker 6: have a guy like Kirk that's, you know, comfortable with

868
00:39:53,946 --> 00:39:57,346
Speaker 6: the system, obviously playing some of the better football that

869
00:39:57,426 --> 00:39:59,626
Speaker 6: he's he's played throughout the last couple of years really

870
00:39:59,666 --> 00:40:02,386
Speaker 6: his entire career, So look forward to him, you know,

871
00:40:02,466 --> 00:40:05,426
Speaker 6: continue to do that. And then the ability to add

872
00:40:05,506 --> 00:40:09,946
Speaker 6: Mike was unique obviously, you know, we felt felt strongly

873
00:40:09,986 --> 00:40:12,266
Speaker 6: about it. Uh in that position. I think it's been

874
00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:15,386
Speaker 6: well documented. Just the ability for him to sit and

875
00:40:15,506 --> 00:40:18,466
Speaker 6: learn and watch and soak everything up before he would

876
00:40:18,466 --> 00:40:21,666
Speaker 6: have to play whenever that ends up being was a positive.

877
00:40:21,706 --> 00:40:25,706
Speaker 3: But you know, I remember watching the Texas game, uh,

878
00:40:25,746 --> 00:40:28,866
Speaker 3: you know that they played, and he was he was

879
00:40:28,906 --> 00:40:32,186
Speaker 3: lights out in that game. And then you really start diving.

880
00:40:31,946 --> 00:40:34,066
Speaker 6: Into the film and you're watching it throughout the spring

881
00:40:34,146 --> 00:40:37,306
Speaker 6: and uh you're seeing kind of you know, how things

882
00:40:37,346 --> 00:40:39,866
Speaker 6: could piece together with this offense, and you got Kirk

883
00:40:39,906 --> 00:40:43,586
Speaker 6: and then you know, being able to add Mike was uh,

884
00:40:43,826 --> 00:40:46,426
Speaker 6: you know, too too good to pass up. So pumped

885
00:40:46,426 --> 00:40:48,466
Speaker 6: to have both those guys because shoot, as you know,

886
00:40:48,586 --> 00:40:52,226
Speaker 6: like you got you gotta have, you gotta have one,

887
00:40:52,266 --> 00:40:54,426
Speaker 6: you gotta have two and and so we feel great

888
00:40:54,426 --> 00:40:55,826
Speaker 6: about both those guys there.

889
00:40:56,026 --> 00:40:58,106
Speaker 2: But people were going bonkers after the pick about how

890
00:40:58,186 --> 00:41:00,426
Speaker 2: ridiculous it was. But if you didn't have a pass

891
00:41:00,506 --> 00:41:03,386
Speaker 2: rusher ranked as high as Panix and he's sitting there

892
00:41:03,426 --> 00:41:06,986
Speaker 2: at eight and you like him. You gotta thinks coming

893
00:41:06,986 --> 00:41:09,346
Speaker 2: off in injuries thirty six and you know, the last

894
00:41:09,386 --> 00:41:11,946
Speaker 2: few years in Atlanta, they've been in kirk quarterback purgatory.

895
00:41:11,946 --> 00:41:13,666
Speaker 2: That's how I looked at it. And it's all right.

896
00:41:13,666 --> 00:41:15,506
Speaker 2: Now we've got two options and one guy for the

897
00:41:15,546 --> 00:41:18,426
Speaker 2: long term future. Now that's easier said than done as

898
00:41:18,466 --> 00:41:20,906
Speaker 2: a coach. There might be some egos you have to

899
00:41:20,986 --> 00:41:23,026
Speaker 2: massage a bit too. What has been a dialogue with

900
00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:24,746
Speaker 2: those guys in the quarterback room or it's it all.

901
00:41:24,666 --> 00:41:25,106
Speaker 3: Just been cool.

902
00:41:25,146 --> 00:41:27,986
Speaker 2: Everyone's been understanding of the situation they come in or

903
00:41:28,066 --> 00:41:29,506
Speaker 2: did you come in with a game plan being like

904
00:41:29,546 --> 00:41:32,066
Speaker 2: I want to get Pennix's reps during the spring and

905
00:41:32,106 --> 00:41:34,306
Speaker 2: get him going, But we have to focus on Kirk.

906
00:41:34,306 --> 00:41:34,866
Speaker 2: He's our guy.

907
00:41:35,506 --> 00:41:38,826
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, everything has been Taylor round Kirk like that

908
00:41:38,906 --> 00:41:41,066
Speaker 6: is that is where we're going, That's what's that's what

909
00:41:41,106 --> 00:41:44,906
Speaker 6: we're doing. And Mike is such a humble guy. Kirk

910
00:41:44,986 --> 00:41:47,626
Speaker 6: obviously one of the best guys I've ever been around.

911
00:41:47,346 --> 00:41:48,426
Speaker 3: Just in life.

912
00:41:49,226 --> 00:41:52,626
Speaker 6: So those two guys could not mesh better together just

913
00:41:52,666 --> 00:41:55,346
Speaker 6: because of who they are as people. And so Mike's

914
00:41:55,346 --> 00:41:58,186
Speaker 6: come in, Uh, he knows you know where he's standing,

915
00:41:58,266 --> 00:42:00,426
Speaker 6: he's got a long way to go. He's learning, He's

916
00:42:00,466 --> 00:42:03,706
Speaker 6: observing Kirk with everything he does. Mike doesn't have to

917
00:42:03,746 --> 00:42:06,306
Speaker 6: say a bunch of meetings. He's just listening to Kirk.

918
00:42:06,306 --> 00:42:08,826
Speaker 6: And then he's got a great way of knowing when

919
00:42:08,866 --> 00:42:11,306
Speaker 6: to ask something and when to just kind of take

920
00:42:11,306 --> 00:42:13,506
Speaker 6: a step back and let Kirk go.

921
00:42:13,666 --> 00:42:15,626
Speaker 3: So their dynamic has been good.

922
00:42:15,946 --> 00:42:19,666
Speaker 6: You're constantly competing, whether you're competing against the other guys

923
00:42:19,706 --> 00:42:21,866
Speaker 6: on other rosters or the guys that are currently on

924
00:42:21,946 --> 00:42:24,226
Speaker 6: your roster, like that brings out the best in everybody,

925
00:42:24,226 --> 00:42:26,826
Speaker 6: and that's shoot, that's goes for you, that goes for me,

926
00:42:26,906 --> 00:42:28,946
Speaker 6: that goes for everybody. So whenever you have that good

927
00:42:29,546 --> 00:42:32,986
Speaker 6: competitive urgency, you know it's a good thing. So both

928
00:42:32,986 --> 00:42:35,346
Speaker 6: guys will channel out the right way. But like I mentioned,

929
00:42:35,346 --> 00:42:38,306
Speaker 6: both just like humble guys a lot of fun to

930
00:42:38,346 --> 00:42:40,906
Speaker 6: be around and obviously super talented and a lot of

931
00:42:40,906 --> 00:42:42,346
Speaker 6: fun to just watch play quarterbacks.

932
00:42:42,386 --> 00:42:43,066
Speaker 3: So it's good.

933
00:42:43,146 --> 00:42:46,226
Speaker 2: I love watching left handed quarterbacks. Has Penix unleashed a

934
00:42:46,306 --> 00:42:49,746
Speaker 2: pass in camp or around the facility at any point

935
00:42:49,786 --> 00:42:53,106
Speaker 2: where you're just like, oh, that's just so pretty. Because

936
00:42:53,146 --> 00:42:55,466
Speaker 2: I saw him at the combine I took a video

937
00:42:55,506 --> 00:42:58,946
Speaker 2: of it him in like the hotel, just like whipping

938
00:42:59,026 --> 00:43:02,786
Speaker 2: these perfect and then a yeah, yeah, dude, Like it's like,

939
00:43:03,266 --> 00:43:04,666
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, if it's a lefty

940
00:43:04,866 --> 00:43:06,506
Speaker 2: or if it's the way he releases the ball. I

941
00:43:06,506 --> 00:43:08,946
Speaker 2: think he's already got one of the prettiest passes.

942
00:43:08,986 --> 00:43:09,946
Speaker 3: In all of football.

943
00:43:10,026 --> 00:43:12,826
Speaker 2: And I watched it for many years at Indiana, then

944
00:43:12,866 --> 00:43:15,706
Speaker 2: of course Washington, like seeing it up close Pennix, just

945
00:43:15,786 --> 00:43:18,266
Speaker 2: letting that thing release with that spin. Is it that special?

946
00:43:19,026 --> 00:43:21,826
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's a pure pere thrower, as pure of a

947
00:43:21,866 --> 00:43:25,466
Speaker 3: guy that I've been around, just strictly throwing the football.

948
00:43:25,586 --> 00:43:26,786
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

949
00:43:26,826 --> 00:43:29,826
Speaker 6: There's been times where you know, he makes something happen

950
00:43:29,866 --> 00:43:31,106
Speaker 6: and you're kind of looking around, like.

951
00:43:31,066 --> 00:43:32,826
Speaker 3: Man, that was a pretty special throw.

952
00:43:32,946 --> 00:43:36,306
Speaker 6: So he's definitely got that going for him. He's got

953
00:43:36,346 --> 00:43:38,186
Speaker 6: some great instincts, sees the field.

954
00:43:38,026 --> 00:43:40,946
Speaker 3: Well, so but like I mentioned, got a long way

955
00:43:40,946 --> 00:43:44,506
Speaker 3: to go with this whole thing. But he definitely definitely

956
00:43:44,546 --> 00:43:46,546
Speaker 3: can throw the football, and that's one of the reasons

957
00:43:46,546 --> 00:43:48,066
Speaker 3: we were excited to get him.

958
00:43:48,346 --> 00:43:51,346
Speaker 2: And Kirk has taken it in stride, and Kirk's in

959
00:43:51,386 --> 00:43:53,426
Speaker 2: the right place going into July, I would imagine as

960
00:43:53,426 --> 00:43:54,426
Speaker 2: a training camps advance.

961
00:43:54,786 --> 00:43:58,746
Speaker 6: Yeah, Kirk had a great great spring really took you know,

962
00:43:58,866 --> 00:44:01,746
Speaker 6: especially for us as new coaches coming in and when

963
00:44:01,786 --> 00:44:04,546
Speaker 6: you have a quarterback that has as much.

964
00:44:04,466 --> 00:44:06,986
Speaker 3: Experience as he does, especially in the system.

965
00:44:07,346 --> 00:44:09,386
Speaker 6: I mean, there were days that Kirk just grabbed the

966
00:44:09,546 --> 00:44:11,306
Speaker 6: entire group when we couldn't be out there with the

967
00:44:11,346 --> 00:44:14,426
Speaker 6: guys and he's taken guys through jogg throughs and he's

968
00:44:14,426 --> 00:44:17,666
Speaker 6: coaching them up on the routes. And so the comfortability

969
00:44:17,666 --> 00:44:19,946
Speaker 6: that you know I have and the rest of the coaching.

970
00:44:19,626 --> 00:44:21,666
Speaker 3: Staff has with with Kirk.

971
00:44:21,426 --> 00:44:24,466
Speaker 6: And how he can just his ownership just with everything

972
00:44:24,466 --> 00:44:26,946
Speaker 6: that he does and his intent behind everything.

973
00:44:27,026 --> 00:44:29,786
Speaker 3: So he had a great spring. Was fun to see

974
00:44:29,866 --> 00:44:31,346
Speaker 3: him and washed him for so long.

975
00:44:31,746 --> 00:44:34,226
Speaker 6: Yeah, always just respected the way that he plays the

976
00:44:34,226 --> 00:44:35,866
Speaker 6: game and the way that he sees it and how

977
00:44:35,866 --> 00:44:38,346
Speaker 6: he can click through progression and how accurate he is.

978
00:44:39,026 --> 00:44:41,466
Speaker 6: But then you finally see it up close and you're like, man,

979
00:44:41,466 --> 00:44:43,186
Speaker 6: there's some days you come off the field and like

980
00:44:43,746 --> 00:44:45,746
Speaker 6: everything's gonna be fine because this guy. As long as

981
00:44:45,786 --> 00:44:49,586
Speaker 6: we distribute the field and you know, have sound schemes

982
00:44:49,666 --> 00:44:52,506
Speaker 6: running the football, throwing the football. This guy can make

983
00:44:52,506 --> 00:44:54,786
Speaker 6: a lot of things right. So it was really fun

984
00:44:54,786 --> 00:44:57,826
Speaker 6: to just finally get working with Kirk and we'll just

985
00:44:57,866 --> 00:45:00,506
Speaker 6: continue to build that rapport with the rest of the

986
00:45:00,546 --> 00:45:03,026
Speaker 6: guys and I'll get, you know, continue to get a

987
00:45:03,026 --> 00:45:05,226
Speaker 6: feel for what he likes and those type of things.

988
00:45:05,266 --> 00:45:07,386
Speaker 3: So it's all really good. Though.

989
00:45:07,546 --> 00:45:09,786
Speaker 2: It's cool that you have a veteran quarterback. I feel

990
00:45:09,786 --> 00:45:13,106
Speaker 2: like you and Stafford spoke the same language, and really

991
00:45:13,586 --> 00:45:15,826
Speaker 2: since he got to the Rams, of course, Kevin was

992
00:45:15,866 --> 00:45:18,146
Speaker 2: there and then you took over that kind of role

993
00:45:18,226 --> 00:45:20,906
Speaker 2: in his ear with Sean. Of course, Like the connective

994
00:45:20,906 --> 00:45:23,146
Speaker 2: tissue is not so Kevin O'Connell and you work together.

995
00:45:23,226 --> 00:45:26,706
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's just coach Cousins the last several seasons. Raheem

996
00:45:26,986 --> 00:45:30,146
Speaker 2: probably was on staff in Washington when Cousins was there,

997
00:45:30,146 --> 00:45:33,586
Speaker 2: I would imagine, right, yes, yep, yeah, and McVeigh was,

998
00:45:33,986 --> 00:45:37,426
Speaker 2: you know, on staff there as well. So this is

999
00:45:37,426 --> 00:45:39,986
Speaker 2: no like there's enough connective tissue where you and Cousins

1000
00:45:40,026 --> 00:45:42,386
Speaker 2: have so many people in common that this has to

1001
00:45:42,426 --> 00:45:44,746
Speaker 2: be pretty cool that you could finally get together and

1002
00:45:44,786 --> 00:45:47,586
Speaker 2: now instead of having rookie quarterback, which you could have

1003
00:45:47,626 --> 00:45:50,106
Speaker 2: easily had as a first year offensive coordinator in slow

1004
00:45:50,106 --> 00:45:52,386
Speaker 2: a cadet last year. It's no, I've got thirty six

1005
00:45:52,466 --> 00:45:54,106
Speaker 2: year old veteran who has seen it all and also

1006
00:45:54,266 --> 00:45:55,946
Speaker 2: knows a lot of the same people that I do.

1007
00:45:56,386 --> 00:45:57,146
Speaker 3: A hundred percent.

1008
00:45:57,226 --> 00:46:00,546
Speaker 6: No, we've been able to talk about different relationships with

1009
00:46:00,586 --> 00:46:03,906
Speaker 6: guys or what they called something in Minnesota. Hey, we

1010
00:46:04,026 --> 00:46:06,066
Speaker 6: call that here and call that this now, and so

1011
00:46:06,146 --> 00:46:09,506
Speaker 6: that's been so easy to talk with Kirk about, you know,

1012
00:46:09,586 --> 00:46:11,986
Speaker 6: football stuff, but also just.

1013
00:46:12,346 --> 00:46:15,186
Speaker 3: Hey, Chris O'Hara was his quarterback coach, and so.

1014
00:46:15,146 --> 00:46:17,186
Speaker 6: I know Chris O'Hare, you know, just different guys that

1015
00:46:17,466 --> 00:46:19,466
Speaker 6: you've been around. Hey, what was Wes Phillips like? What

1016
00:46:19,506 --> 00:46:21,826
Speaker 6: were some of the jokes Wes Phillips told me, you know,

1017
00:46:22,026 --> 00:46:25,306
Speaker 6: just some of the little little stories that that are

1018
00:46:25,426 --> 00:46:27,226
Speaker 6: just easy to make connections.

1019
00:46:27,266 --> 00:46:29,826
Speaker 3: So, no, it's been it's been great to have Kirk

1020
00:46:29,866 --> 00:46:32,506
Speaker 3: and you know, having a veteran guy that.

1021
00:46:32,826 --> 00:46:35,226
Speaker 6: Can't wait to just see his his career continue to

1022
00:46:35,226 --> 00:46:37,786
Speaker 6: go because he's he's playing. Before he got injured last

1023
00:46:37,826 --> 00:46:40,266
Speaker 6: year and you know, Peter, he was as good as

1024
00:46:40,506 --> 00:46:43,226
Speaker 6: as lights down back in the league. So I'm excited

1025
00:46:43,226 --> 00:46:45,986
Speaker 6: to see him just kind of keep that going all.

1026
00:46:45,906 --> 00:46:48,706
Speaker 2: Right, A couple of rapid fire questions as as we

1027
00:46:48,786 --> 00:46:53,026
Speaker 2: wrap this. This has been awesome, your best Des Bryant story.

1028
00:46:53,066 --> 00:46:57,306
Speaker 2: You were his quarterback in college, an absolute freak show

1029
00:46:57,466 --> 00:46:59,986
Speaker 2: in college and in the NFL. When did Dez show

1030
00:47:00,026 --> 00:47:03,066
Speaker 2: you that this guy is a step above everybody else

1031
00:47:03,106 --> 00:47:03,626
Speaker 2: on the field?

1032
00:47:04,146 --> 00:47:06,466
Speaker 6: Right when he got there as a true freshman and

1033
00:47:06,546 --> 00:47:09,266
Speaker 6: we knew who he was coming in like as players

1034
00:47:09,266 --> 00:47:10,986
Speaker 6: were like, oh man, like this guy was a four

1035
00:47:11,026 --> 00:47:13,186
Speaker 6: star recruit and he could.

1036
00:47:13,026 --> 00:47:14,346
Speaker 3: Have gone a number of different places.

1037
00:47:14,386 --> 00:47:17,626
Speaker 6: We end up snagging him, But that first summer, he

1038
00:47:17,666 --> 00:47:19,906
Speaker 6: would always be like the first guy out on the field.

1039
00:47:19,946 --> 00:47:22,226
Speaker 3: I always went out there early to start warming up, but.

1040
00:47:22,186 --> 00:47:24,706
Speaker 6: He was like him and I would like almost be

1041
00:47:24,786 --> 00:47:26,506
Speaker 6: out there at the exact same time. And he just

1042
00:47:26,626 --> 00:47:29,506
Speaker 6: loved to play catch, loved to throw, loved to catch.

1043
00:47:29,546 --> 00:47:31,066
Speaker 6: And so that's when I started kind of getting a

1044
00:47:31,106 --> 00:47:34,306
Speaker 6: feel for him. And you know, he would run some

1045
00:47:34,426 --> 00:47:37,426
Speaker 6: routes sometimes where like he would change his tempo. Like

1046
00:47:37,466 --> 00:47:39,266
Speaker 6: I remember throwing him like an in cut, like a

1047
00:47:39,306 --> 00:47:41,946
Speaker 6: twelve yard incut, and he came out of it and

1048
00:47:41,986 --> 00:47:43,866
Speaker 6: I thought I was putting it at a place, you know,

1049
00:47:43,946 --> 00:47:44,746
Speaker 6: right out in front of him.

1050
00:47:44,746 --> 00:47:46,866
Speaker 3: He ended up speeding up and just to.

1051
00:47:46,866 --> 00:47:50,386
Speaker 6: Catch it like one handed on his shold, like totally unnecessary,

1052
00:47:50,426 --> 00:47:52,426
Speaker 6: but his routes on air and he's just showing off

1053
00:47:52,466 --> 00:47:55,226
Speaker 6: like the stuff he could do. And obviously the stuff

1054
00:47:55,226 --> 00:47:58,586
Speaker 6: above the rim that he could do was unlike really

1055
00:47:58,626 --> 00:47:59,866
Speaker 6: anybody in college football.

1056
00:47:59,946 --> 00:48:01,586
Speaker 3: Man it was. He's a special guy.

1057
00:48:01,626 --> 00:48:07,106
Speaker 6: But he loved football, loved just playing catch. During the summer.

1058
00:48:07,146 --> 00:48:09,946
Speaker 6: I think that's where our report really kind of skyrocketed.

1059
00:48:10,026 --> 00:48:12,426
Speaker 6: We just I'd throw something up and see what he

1060
00:48:12,466 --> 00:48:14,586
Speaker 6: can do. He could you see the spots that he

1061
00:48:14,626 --> 00:48:17,266
Speaker 6: could get to it, and but yeah, he just he

1062
00:48:17,386 --> 00:48:20,426
Speaker 6: just loved throwing and catching, being around football.

1063
00:48:21,506 --> 00:48:22,546
Speaker 3: Just total ball guy.

1064
00:48:22,626 --> 00:48:25,666
Speaker 6: And then as a competitor, I haven't really been around

1065
00:48:25,666 --> 00:48:26,946
Speaker 6: many guys like Daz.

1066
00:48:27,626 --> 00:48:29,826
Speaker 2: I had Kellen Moore on last summer and he was

1067
00:48:29,866 --> 00:48:32,706
Speaker 2: talking about his favorite Matthew Stafford throws when he was

1068
00:48:32,706 --> 00:48:36,706
Speaker 2: his backup in Detroit. Your favorite Matthew Stafford pass if

1069
00:48:36,706 --> 00:48:38,746
Speaker 2: you can go through them all, whether it be big

1070
00:48:38,826 --> 00:48:41,106
Speaker 2: clutch passes in the playoffs a couple of years ago

1071
00:48:41,346 --> 00:48:45,426
Speaker 2: or something you saw in camp, what's your Stafford memory

1072
00:48:45,506 --> 00:48:47,466
Speaker 2: of just the freak show that is Matthew Stafford.

1073
00:48:47,706 --> 00:48:50,266
Speaker 6: I mean the Super Bowl, no look is in that

1074
00:48:50,386 --> 00:48:54,586
Speaker 6: moment was unbelievable. I couldn't believe how he can no

1075
00:48:54,706 --> 00:48:57,346
Speaker 6: look those with receivers going from right to left and

1076
00:48:57,426 --> 00:48:59,666
Speaker 6: his eyes being this way and throwing it that way

1077
00:48:59,826 --> 00:49:01,506
Speaker 6: while still keeping the ball out in front.

1078
00:49:02,146 --> 00:49:03,226
Speaker 3: I mean some of those that you.

1079
00:49:03,186 --> 00:49:05,546
Speaker 6: Would see in practice every day. Matthew and I were

1080
00:49:05,586 --> 00:49:09,866
Speaker 6: teammates in Detroit in twenty ten as I was, you know,

1081
00:49:10,186 --> 00:49:12,706
Speaker 6: making my way around, and.

1082
00:49:12,706 --> 00:49:15,066
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. He was injured the first year I

1083
00:49:15,106 --> 00:49:17,626
Speaker 3: was there, and that was the reason I got to Detroit.

1084
00:49:18,306 --> 00:49:19,626
Speaker 3: He separated his shoulder.

1085
00:49:19,746 --> 00:49:23,066
Speaker 6: I was with Seattle on their practice squad, so Detroit

1086
00:49:23,106 --> 00:49:25,546
Speaker 6: claimed me off of waivers, and so I.

1087
00:49:25,466 --> 00:49:28,226
Speaker 3: Was there the rest of the season. Matthew wasn't playing.

1088
00:49:28,866 --> 00:49:32,426
Speaker 6: But then fast forward to training camp or yeah, to

1089
00:49:32,546 --> 00:49:34,146
Speaker 6: training camp, and that was the first time I got

1090
00:49:34,186 --> 00:49:36,786
Speaker 6: to see Matthew really play up close. I'd seen him throw.

1091
00:49:36,906 --> 00:49:40,026
Speaker 6: We went to the Man camp together. I see him throw,

1092
00:49:40,586 --> 00:49:42,706
Speaker 6: you know, up close and personal for the first time.

1093
00:49:42,706 --> 00:49:43,306
Speaker 3: When I was a.

1094
00:49:43,346 --> 00:49:46,786
Speaker 6: Sophomore in college and he was going into his junior year,

1095
00:49:46,826 --> 00:49:49,066
Speaker 6: and I was like, that looks different than anything I've

1096
00:49:49,106 --> 00:49:51,986
Speaker 6: ever seen, and so I went back and I was like,

1097
00:49:52,026 --> 00:49:53,506
Speaker 6: I got no shot at playing in the NFL.

1098
00:49:53,666 --> 00:49:54,546
Speaker 3: This is what it looks like.

1099
00:49:55,426 --> 00:49:58,546
Speaker 6: But I do remember one throwing specific when I was

1100
00:49:58,546 --> 00:50:03,506
Speaker 6: in Detroit with Matthew Calvin Johnson was basically ran in

1101
00:50:03,626 --> 00:50:07,466
Speaker 6: like a corner pump and it was a cover two look.

1102
00:50:07,986 --> 00:50:10,906
Speaker 6: Matthew looked off the safety one way, looked off the

1103
00:50:10,946 --> 00:50:13,226
Speaker 6: safety the other way. Calvin did his job on the

1104
00:50:13,306 --> 00:50:16,626
Speaker 6: route and I was standing right behind it, and this

1105
00:50:16,706 --> 00:50:21,266
Speaker 6: ball went seventy yards in the air, perfect spiral, Calvin

1106
00:50:21,386 --> 00:50:24,866
Speaker 6: just instride, and I'll never forget what that looked like

1107
00:50:24,906 --> 00:50:25,626
Speaker 6: coming out of his hand.

1108
00:50:25,666 --> 00:50:28,306
Speaker 3: It was just like seventy yards superhuman?

1109
00:50:29,426 --> 00:50:31,306
Speaker 2: Who is that against? We'll have the clip.

1110
00:50:32,026 --> 00:50:34,706
Speaker 6: We no, this was this is just in practice training,

1111
00:50:34,746 --> 00:50:39,426
Speaker 6: can't practice. Was just I was like, you know, something

1112
00:50:39,466 --> 00:50:42,186
Speaker 6: you just never see. But some of the ones in

1113
00:50:42,306 --> 00:50:46,666
Speaker 6: games last year, yeah, there was so many. There were

1114
00:50:46,706 --> 00:50:49,906
Speaker 6: so many throws he had, but that one definitely sticks

1115
00:50:49,906 --> 00:50:52,546
Speaker 6: out just as a player watching it and knowing like

1116
00:50:52,946 --> 00:50:56,466
Speaker 6: what it's supposed to look like. Obviously, no pure thrower

1117
00:50:56,826 --> 00:50:58,266
Speaker 6: in the history of the game really has been.

1118
00:50:58,346 --> 00:51:02,146
Speaker 2: Matthew Odell comes a couple of years ago and he

1119
00:51:02,226 --> 00:51:04,506
Speaker 2: comes with all this hoopla and then he gets there

1120
00:51:04,546 --> 00:51:07,066
Speaker 2: and it's just like an awesome player for the Los

1121
00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:09,946
Speaker 2: Angeles Rams, and really, I know the love that that

1122
00:51:09,986 --> 00:51:12,266
Speaker 2: franchise has for him for the one season he was there.

1123
00:51:12,306 --> 00:51:14,906
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on Odell, your memories of Odell, and maybe

1124
00:51:14,906 --> 00:51:15,946
Speaker 2: a good Odell story.

1125
00:51:16,946 --> 00:51:20,866
Speaker 6: Yeah, he you know, came in and right off, right

1126
00:51:20,866 --> 00:51:22,746
Speaker 6: off the bat, like just fit in with the guys,

1127
00:51:22,746 --> 00:51:25,506
Speaker 6: Like didn't really know. You don't know what somebody's like

1128
00:51:25,586 --> 00:51:27,906
Speaker 6: until they're actually in the building, whether that's coach, player

1129
00:51:27,946 --> 00:51:30,586
Speaker 6: or anything. You can hear whatever you want, but as

1130
00:51:30,586 --> 00:51:33,746
Speaker 6: soon as you get to know, the guy just brought

1131
00:51:33,786 --> 00:51:35,626
Speaker 6: a ton of juice to our to our offense. I

1132
00:51:35,666 --> 00:51:38,426
Speaker 6: mean just obviously he's got the most swag in the

1133
00:51:38,466 --> 00:51:41,386
Speaker 6: history of the game. Maybe, but he came in and

1134
00:51:41,906 --> 00:51:43,786
Speaker 6: there was you know, a little learning curve those first

1135
00:51:43,866 --> 00:51:46,786
Speaker 6: couple of weeks for some reason.

1136
00:51:47,346 --> 00:51:48,946
Speaker 3: You know, I was playing catch.

1137
00:51:48,746 --> 00:51:51,946
Speaker 6: Like pre game one day, and uh so then from

1138
00:51:51,946 --> 00:51:54,466
Speaker 6: that point forward, like I was kind of your game

1139
00:51:54,586 --> 00:51:58,586
Speaker 6: throwing guy, and so the stuff that I would see

1140
00:51:58,626 --> 00:52:02,306
Speaker 6: from him in pregame warmups, like obviously he wasn't doing

1141
00:52:02,386 --> 00:52:04,386
Speaker 6: like with the Giants, like he was going to the

1142
00:52:04,386 --> 00:52:06,066
Speaker 6: back of the end zone and doing all that. At

1143
00:52:06,066 --> 00:52:08,426
Speaker 6: this point, he was just a little more casual, but

1144
00:52:08,586 --> 00:52:12,066
Speaker 6: still you know, pulling in one handers but.

1145
00:52:12,146 --> 00:52:15,586
Speaker 3: Not jumping, you know, like he was back in New York.

1146
00:52:16,186 --> 00:52:18,066
Speaker 3: But I do remember throwing.

1147
00:52:17,826 --> 00:52:20,706
Speaker 6: A ball to him in pregame warm ups before the

1148
00:52:21,066 --> 00:52:22,306
Speaker 6: before the Niner game.

1149
00:52:22,346 --> 00:52:23,786
Speaker 3: The first game he was there.

1150
00:52:24,666 --> 00:52:27,226
Speaker 6: And I was standing on the right side the pregame

1151
00:52:27,266 --> 00:52:29,586
Speaker 6: warm ups like we're on the team, period, but guys

1152
00:52:29,586 --> 00:52:32,466
Speaker 6: are kind of you know how the tempo is in pregame,

1153
00:52:32,546 --> 00:52:33,466
Speaker 6: and he's like, Hey.

1154
00:52:33,546 --> 00:52:35,066
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on this one a little bit. I

1155
00:52:35,066 --> 00:52:37,586
Speaker 3: was like, all right, And so I.

1156
00:52:37,586 --> 00:52:39,586
Speaker 6: Throw him a go ball on the right side and

1157
00:52:39,666 --> 00:52:42,506
Speaker 6: he's running and he's tracking this thing and I'm like,

1158
00:52:43,266 --> 00:52:45,426
Speaker 6: it's it's over his outside, Like when.

1159
00:52:45,346 --> 00:52:48,026
Speaker 3: Is he gonna I'm like, when is he gonna? When

1160
00:52:48,106 --> 00:52:49,826
Speaker 3: is he going to adjust and and do this?

1161
00:52:49,906 --> 00:52:52,146
Speaker 6: And he just keeps striding like this, and then he

1162
00:52:52,226 --> 00:52:54,546
Speaker 6: just goes and he just plucks it with his right

1163
00:52:54,586 --> 00:52:56,106
Speaker 6: hand and just keeps keeps going.

1164
00:52:56,186 --> 00:52:59,186
Speaker 3: I like turned around and as Zero Everro was standing

1165
00:52:59,226 --> 00:53:00,986
Speaker 3: back there like what the hell was that? You know,

1166
00:53:01,106 --> 00:53:02,426
Speaker 3: like we just that.

1167
00:53:02,586 --> 00:53:05,106
Speaker 6: The ball skills that he had. I've never seen like

1168
00:53:05,146 --> 00:53:07,306
Speaker 6: an athlete like him. Like we play catch, I'd throw

1169
00:53:07,346 --> 00:53:09,666
Speaker 6: it to him, he'd throw one back right handed. Next

1170
00:53:09,666 --> 00:53:12,306
Speaker 6: time you'd throw one left handed. Yeah, next time. Next

1171
00:53:12,306 --> 00:53:14,266
Speaker 6: time you would punt it right footed and it'd be

1172
00:53:14,346 --> 00:53:16,386
Speaker 6: like perfect, And then the next time you would punt

1173
00:53:16,426 --> 00:53:18,706
Speaker 6: it left footed, it would be I mean, he just

1174
00:53:19,386 --> 00:53:22,426
Speaker 6: got some unbelievable just hand eye and he's just a

1175
00:53:22,466 --> 00:53:25,386
Speaker 6: great athlete. But he brought so much juice that season.

1176
00:53:25,386 --> 00:53:27,106
Speaker 3: Man, he's freaking. He's just stud.

1177
00:53:27,426 --> 00:53:31,266
Speaker 2: Loves football but also loves fashion, loves soccer. I still

1178
00:53:31,306 --> 00:53:33,946
Speaker 2: think he's like the NFL's renaissance man. And I was

1179
00:53:34,106 --> 00:53:36,106
Speaker 2: in Miami, so I'm curiously how that goes. But like

1180
00:53:36,546 --> 00:53:39,186
Speaker 2: I thought, I loved the odell Era in LA and

1181
00:53:39,226 --> 00:53:40,826
Speaker 2: I know how much you guys appreciate him.

1182
00:53:40,946 --> 00:53:43,546
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great. He was a big reason where

1183
00:53:43,586 --> 00:53:45,026
Speaker 3: you know, obviously we're able to get there.

1184
00:53:46,026 --> 00:53:49,506
Speaker 2: Last couple the big pass to Cooper Cup that Stafford

1185
00:53:49,506 --> 00:53:52,146
Speaker 2: throws against Tampa and the playoffs, where were you for

1186
00:53:52,186 --> 00:53:54,786
Speaker 2: that pass? And what'd you think when you guys actually

1187
00:53:54,786 --> 00:53:55,466
Speaker 2: pulled that off?

1188
00:53:55,866 --> 00:53:58,306
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, first of all, great call by Sean

1189
00:53:58,426 --> 00:54:01,546
Speaker 3: going tempo in that moment, ball was out of bounds

1190
00:54:01,626 --> 00:54:05,386
Speaker 3: on the left side on Tampa sideline, and Sean, you know, typically, hey,

1191
00:54:05,426 --> 00:54:08,906
Speaker 3: out of bounds two minutes real, let's huddle up. Sean

1192
00:54:08,986 --> 00:54:09,626
Speaker 3: had a feeling.

1193
00:54:10,666 --> 00:54:12,466
Speaker 6: We ended up just getting right on the ball, and

1194
00:54:12,506 --> 00:54:15,346
Speaker 6: so you know, it's well documented as a cover zero.

1195
00:54:15,466 --> 00:54:17,826
Speaker 3: Look, I was standing. I always stood kind of even

1196
00:54:17,866 --> 00:54:19,986
Speaker 3: with the with the ball based like a little bit

1197
00:54:20,026 --> 00:54:23,826
Speaker 3: behind it, and so you're kind of watching our guys,

1198
00:54:23,866 --> 00:54:26,066
Speaker 3: You're watching the back end, and you saw it went

1199
00:54:26,106 --> 00:54:29,666
Speaker 3: to you know, cover zero, and you're like, you know.

1200
00:54:29,786 --> 00:54:32,226
Speaker 2: Right away, you guys aren't freaking out like covers like

1201
00:54:32,386 --> 00:54:32,666
Speaker 2: we have.

1202
00:54:32,786 --> 00:54:35,106
Speaker 6: This is Yeah, it was like it was like a

1203
00:54:35,186 --> 00:54:37,306
Speaker 6: but it happened so fast that you're kind of just

1204
00:54:37,386 --> 00:54:40,746
Speaker 6: like hoping that you see it right like and you know, yeah,

1205
00:54:40,826 --> 00:54:42,906
Speaker 6: you know he's gonna see it because he sees everything.

1206
00:54:43,826 --> 00:54:46,146
Speaker 6: But yeah, that the ball traveling through the air like

1207
00:54:46,186 --> 00:54:49,946
Speaker 6: once Matthew spotted it, and you know, obviously the trajectory

1208
00:54:49,986 --> 00:54:52,266
Speaker 6: and the ball that he threw, the ball seemed like

1209
00:54:52,306 --> 00:54:54,946
Speaker 6: it was in the air for like ten seconds, but

1210
00:54:54,986 --> 00:54:58,506
Speaker 6: obviously drops in the bucket. But yeah, definitely was a

1211
00:54:58,586 --> 00:55:01,386
Speaker 6: memory all always you know have and we'll always have

1212
00:55:01,706 --> 00:55:05,906
Speaker 6: just how that happened. Seeing the juice that Matthew had

1213
00:55:06,026 --> 00:55:08,626
Speaker 6: after completed that coming to the sideline like he said

1214
00:55:08,626 --> 00:55:10,346
Speaker 6: some stuff. I was like, you were in a dark

1215
00:55:10,386 --> 00:55:13,066
Speaker 6: place man, like he was. He was feeling it, and

1216
00:55:13,106 --> 00:55:15,946
Speaker 6: so it was. It was pretty cool. That locker room

1217
00:55:15,986 --> 00:55:19,026
Speaker 6: celebration was awesome. But yeah, what unbelievable play by those

1218
00:55:19,026 --> 00:55:22,026
Speaker 6: two guys in that moment to make that happen was

1219
00:55:22,386 --> 00:55:22,866
Speaker 6: pretty cool.

1220
00:55:23,306 --> 00:55:26,066
Speaker 2: That rivalry you guys had with the Niners these past

1221
00:55:26,106 --> 00:55:28,306
Speaker 2: several years, and you go back and forth and then

1222
00:55:28,386 --> 00:55:30,266
Speaker 2: finally you guys beat him in the playoff game and

1223
00:55:30,266 --> 00:55:32,026
Speaker 2: then they go back to the Super Bowl and it's

1224
00:55:32,066 --> 00:55:36,306
Speaker 2: it's heated. Now you're in the NFC South, Is it

1225
00:55:36,386 --> 00:55:37,826
Speaker 2: strange for you to be like, all right, I need

1226
00:55:37,866 --> 00:55:40,026
Speaker 2: to kind of readjust and there's now three other teams

1227
00:55:40,106 --> 00:55:42,066
Speaker 2: that I have to kind of look at and be

1228
00:55:42,146 --> 00:55:44,826
Speaker 2: like those are our chief rivals or that does that

1229
00:55:44,906 --> 00:55:47,666
Speaker 2: Niners logo still as we sit here in July just

1230
00:55:47,666 --> 00:55:48,546
Speaker 2: just rub you wrong.

1231
00:55:49,026 --> 00:55:52,466
Speaker 6: No, it's that's not that those games were so physical,

1232
00:55:52,546 --> 00:55:53,146
Speaker 6: so intense.

1233
00:55:53,186 --> 00:55:55,506
Speaker 3: You knew the week leading up, like he was like, man, okay,

1234
00:55:55,506 --> 00:55:58,026
Speaker 3: balk of your Chintz straps. It's you know, playing the Niners.

1235
00:55:58,506 --> 00:56:00,786
Speaker 6: That'll always kind of just just the way that those

1236
00:56:00,786 --> 00:56:02,586
Speaker 6: guys play football and the way that Kyle.

1237
00:56:02,426 --> 00:56:03,426
Speaker 3: Gets those guys going.

1238
00:56:04,626 --> 00:56:06,946
Speaker 6: You know, no matter if you're in the division or

1239
00:56:06,946 --> 00:56:08,626
Speaker 6: out of the division, you always got your eyes on

1240
00:56:08,626 --> 00:56:11,866
Speaker 6: the Niners. But yeah, it's definitely been different resetting than

1241
00:56:11,906 --> 00:56:14,426
Speaker 6: seeing this group of guys that feel like, you know

1242
00:56:14,506 --> 00:56:16,506
Speaker 6: Tampa pretty well, just we played them so many times

1243
00:56:16,546 --> 00:56:19,186
Speaker 6: in the last handful of years and then played in

1244
00:56:19,226 --> 00:56:20,186
Speaker 6: New Orleans last year.

1245
00:56:20,226 --> 00:56:21,546
Speaker 3: Carolina don't know much about.

1246
00:56:21,586 --> 00:56:23,666
Speaker 6: But it's cool because we do have some coaches on

1247
00:56:23,746 --> 00:56:26,826
Speaker 6: staff that I've been here for the last three years,

1248
00:56:27,026 --> 00:56:28,866
Speaker 6: so I'm you know, I'm looking at it like, hey,

1249
00:56:28,866 --> 00:56:31,306
Speaker 6: who's who's fifty nine here, and they're able to kind

1250
00:56:31,306 --> 00:56:33,466
Speaker 6: of give a little bit of a scoop on on

1251
00:56:33,466 --> 00:56:37,506
Speaker 6: on different players and so, but yeah, it's different resetting.

1252
00:56:37,546 --> 00:56:39,506
Speaker 6: You know that you get to know that division so well,

1253
00:56:39,506 --> 00:56:41,666
Speaker 6: you're there for five years. You know the Cardinals, you

1254
00:56:41,666 --> 00:56:44,546
Speaker 6: know the Seahawks, you know, you know the the evolving

1255
00:56:44,906 --> 00:56:47,066
Speaker 6: you know door that's come with the defensive backs for

1256
00:56:47,106 --> 00:56:51,106
Speaker 6: the Niners, and so learning a new you know, a

1257
00:56:51,146 --> 00:56:53,386
Speaker 6: new division, is definitely gonna be a little bit different,

1258
00:56:53,426 --> 00:56:56,626
Speaker 6: but it's also you know, good challenge at the same time.

1259
00:56:57,226 --> 00:57:01,226
Speaker 2: Last question, we are now a week really a week

1260
00:57:01,266 --> 00:57:03,466
Speaker 2: and a half away from stepping in there and giving

1261
00:57:03,506 --> 00:57:06,346
Speaker 2: the first you know, training camp, team meetings and all that.

1262
00:57:06,826 --> 00:57:09,906
Speaker 2: As we head towards your first season as an offensive coordinator,

1263
00:57:09,906 --> 00:57:12,386
Speaker 2: your first season with the Atlanta Falcons, what would be

1264
00:57:12,466 --> 00:57:14,746
Speaker 2: your message to Falcons fans about the offense that they

1265
00:57:14,746 --> 00:57:15,346
Speaker 2: can expect.

1266
00:57:16,306 --> 00:57:19,906
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're you know, anticipating playing an exciting brand of football.

1267
00:57:20,426 --> 00:57:23,786
Speaker 3: We want to play fast before the snap, after the snap.

1268
00:57:23,866 --> 00:57:26,226
Speaker 3: We want to play physical, we want to be aggressive

1269
00:57:26,266 --> 00:57:26,946
Speaker 3: at all times.

1270
00:57:26,986 --> 00:57:28,786
Speaker 6: We want to play with greatergency, we want to mix

1271
00:57:28,786 --> 00:57:32,186
Speaker 6: the tempo. So hopefully we can put this thing together.

1272
00:57:32,626 --> 00:57:35,186
Speaker 6: Got a great group of guys to do it. Got

1273
00:57:35,186 --> 00:57:36,906
Speaker 6: a long way to go, got training camp, and we

1274
00:57:36,986 --> 00:57:41,026
Speaker 6: got to get just our identity and our foundation really set.

1275
00:57:41,466 --> 00:57:44,106
Speaker 6: We left the offseason, like I mentioned earlier, in a

1276
00:57:44,106 --> 00:57:45,826
Speaker 6: great spot. Now we just got to pick it up,

1277
00:57:45,866 --> 00:57:48,306
Speaker 6: and that level of emergency just got to got to

1278
00:57:48,306 --> 00:57:51,226
Speaker 6: crank up a little bit. But I can expect, you know,

1279
00:57:51,626 --> 00:57:53,346
Speaker 6: we're gonna throw the football, We're gonna put the ball

1280
00:57:53,386 --> 00:57:54,906
Speaker 6: in the air. We're also gonna be able to control

1281
00:57:54,946 --> 00:57:57,946
Speaker 6: the ball, run the football hopefully. So it should be

1282
00:57:57,986 --> 00:58:00,746
Speaker 6: an exciting season and we can't wait to get going.

1283
00:58:01,426 --> 00:58:04,866
Speaker 2: Should I take b John Robinson first overall in fantasy football?

1284
00:58:04,946 --> 00:58:07,866
Speaker 3: Would that be the thing about fans? I hear you me?

1285
00:58:08,026 --> 00:58:08,226
Speaker 6: Neither.

1286
00:58:08,386 --> 00:58:10,346
Speaker 2: I tried. I tried making a statement that would like

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Speaker 2: go viral.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't play fantasy either.

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Speaker 3: It was a bad attempt, but I mean probably, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why not. He's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good Zach Robinson. This was so fun. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for the hour. I also think we learned a lot.

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Speaker 2: The PFF stuff is really cool really as we wrap

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Speaker 2: anything you've taken from those days that you apply today.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's certain you know, data that you might look

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Speaker 6: at that you kind of like, you know, you're you're

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Speaker 6: obviously you know football is football, and you're always going

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Speaker 6: to learn off the tape, but there are some things

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Speaker 6: just from a data standpoint that that you can look

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00:58:47,306 --> 00:58:50,786
Speaker 6: at that might that might help you out. But the

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00:58:50,826 --> 00:58:53,466
Speaker 6: way those guys really opened up your mind to looking

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00:58:53,506 --> 00:58:55,506
Speaker 6: at football in a different way, which I think is

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Speaker 6: always cool. Like nobody's ever going to be stuck. There's

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00:58:58,026 --> 00:59:00,546
Speaker 6: there's not just one way to do it, and so

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00:59:00,786 --> 00:59:03,266
Speaker 6: just seeing kind of their perspective from a you know,

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Speaker 6: analytical side.

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Speaker 3: And some of the siveness, whether it be on fourth

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Speaker 3: downs or you know.

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Speaker 6: Two point whatever it might be. Those things creep in

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00:59:12,786 --> 00:59:15,706
Speaker 6: your mind a little bit knowing what you know the

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Speaker 6: PFF analytics might say, but you're obviously going to make

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Speaker 6: those judgments based on different situations and it's not just

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Speaker 6: a black and white thing. But definitely grateful for those

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00:59:26,146 --> 00:59:31,306
Speaker 6: guys and Neil Hornsby, who founded PFF, was instrumental and

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Speaker 6: just you know, my development of just watching football and

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Speaker 6: being able to have the access to everything the PFF had.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely taking a lot from those guys for sure.

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Speaker 3: So cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm wishing you so much luck. You've got about fifteen

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Speaker 2: days or maybe ten days left. Go enjoy two kids

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Speaker 2: under the age of two and a new home in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Tell your wife she's a rock star. Zach Robinson, thanks

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Speaker 2: for joining the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Man, Thanks, Rake, appreciate you.

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00:59:58,786 --> 01:00:12,906
Speaker 2: Awesome. Zach's awesome. I love the storytime element of all that.

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Speaker 2: And Aaron, I'll bring you back in like that cup

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01:00:15,826 --> 01:00:18,266
Speaker 2: pass that Stafford has. It's not going to go down

1329
01:00:18,306 --> 01:00:21,386
Speaker 2: as like the David Tyree helmet catch or the Santonio

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01:00:21,426 --> 01:00:23,106
Speaker 2: Holmes in the back of the end zone. But to

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01:00:23,186 --> 01:00:27,786
Speaker 2: those guys in that organization, that play is forever, and

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01:00:27,826 --> 01:00:29,906
Speaker 2: for those fans, that one is forever. And I love

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01:00:29,946 --> 01:00:32,266
Speaker 2: how he knows exactly where he was standing the coverage.

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01:00:32,466 --> 01:00:36,266
Speaker 2: How Sean McVeigh instead of you know, taking your time

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01:00:36,346 --> 01:00:38,346
Speaker 2: after you know, an out of bounds play in a

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01:00:38,346 --> 01:00:40,026
Speaker 2: two minute drill, was like, no, no, get to the line.

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Speaker 2: Like all those details this is now three years removed

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Speaker 2: and they're still crystal clear. For Zach Robinson, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean that's sports like that that story, him remembering exactly

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01:00:50,786 --> 01:00:53,666
Speaker 4: how he felt on the field seeing the ball, like

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01:00:53,786 --> 01:00:55,786
Speaker 4: him saying like it felt like the ball was in

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01:00:55,786 --> 01:00:57,066
Speaker 4: the air for ten seconds.

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Speaker 5: I loved that. That was that was incredible.

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01:01:00,106 --> 01:01:02,906
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you think he danced around the Cousins Penick

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01:01:02,946 --> 01:01:04,906
Speaker 2: stuff or was he pretty much straight? It sounds like

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01:01:04,946 --> 01:01:06,706
Speaker 2: it's not even an issue there. But you know, if

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01:01:06,786 --> 01:01:10,026
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins starts out oh and two and they there's

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01:01:10,066 --> 01:01:13,026
Speaker 2: two interceptions in both games and Pennix lights up the preseason,

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01:01:13,106 --> 01:01:15,066
Speaker 2: like I have to think there's some fans who are like,

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Speaker 2: let's see our rookie quarterback. We drafted eighth overall.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about two games in, but he did

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Speaker 4: a really good I mean, he said they've tailored everything

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01:01:22,146 --> 01:01:25,906
Speaker 4: to Kirk, which makes me think that they've tailored everything

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01:01:25,906 --> 01:01:27,546
Speaker 4: to Kirk and he's going to be the quarterback. But

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Speaker 4: he also, like you know, pointed out he loved watching

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Speaker 4: Penix throw the ball, So there's definitely some optimism and

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01:01:35,946 --> 01:01:40,426
Speaker 4: potential there. I would say it's probably not the rookie

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Speaker 4: quarterback I expect to see first. By any means, Falcons

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Speaker 4: aren't this like that was the word.

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Speaker 2: They're not a sexy pick right now, new coach, new quarterback,

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01:01:50,506 --> 01:01:52,946
Speaker 2: no one knows what to expect. But when you do

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Speaker 2: lay it out and you list all those offensive players

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Speaker 2: and you realize that they're bringing a new offensive coach

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Speaker 2: who just was with McVeigh and has all these different

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Speaker 2: bells and whistles to them, and they have a new

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Speaker 2: defensive coach and Rahie Morris and I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 2: an offensive line guru, but like, I didn't think that

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01:02:07,586 --> 01:02:08,906
Speaker 2: their offensive line is the best in the game. The

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Speaker 2: way he was talking about it is Atlanta the sleeper pick,

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Speaker 2: Like this is what happens. You talk to these guys

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01:02:13,786 --> 01:02:15,666
Speaker 2: and then you start thinking yourself, like, I know, he's like,

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Speaker 2: we have a long way to go. He's set in expectations,

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01:02:17,626 --> 01:02:20,786
Speaker 2: but like what if Beejon Robinson's unleashed, and what if

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01:02:20,826 --> 01:02:22,786
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitt stepped up? And what if Drake London played

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01:02:22,786 --> 01:02:24,906
Speaker 2: like a top ten receiver? And what if Kirk Cousins

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01:02:24,946 --> 01:02:26,986
Speaker 2: is like has been like, yes, they can compete in

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Speaker 2: the NFC.

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Speaker 4: That division really doesn't need someone to be incredibly sexy

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01:02:32,826 --> 01:02:36,706
Speaker 4: to win too. Like Tampa, you know, just did well.

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Speaker 4: We've got some turnover there as well. And they I

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01:02:40,506 --> 01:02:44,706
Speaker 4: think like just because they didn't draft the speediest receiver

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Speaker 4: in the first round this year, or they didn't as

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01:02:47,826 --> 01:02:51,146
Speaker 4: rush yeah, like a huge pass rusher. I do think

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Speaker 4: that people are probably downplaying how good they could be.

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Speaker 4: But I also think they have we probably have like

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01:02:57,866 --> 01:03:00,946
Speaker 4: take hangover on them that we've been so excited about

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01:03:01,026 --> 01:03:04,866
Speaker 4: the happins every offseason and we are so disappointed all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 2: Let's not be suppointed, let's be positive. Let's every team's

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Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl. It's July ninth, We're in on

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Speaker 2: all every team.

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Speaker 5: And we're all getting invites to next year's White Party.

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01:03:14,706 --> 01:03:17,146
Speaker 2: No, I'm done. I'm telling you I don't want to go.

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01:03:17,826 --> 01:03:19,826
Speaker 2: I don't want to go. If he invited me, i'd

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Speaker 2: say no.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I did see the video of Odell like getting dancing

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01:03:24,706 --> 01:03:26,706
Speaker 4: on his way to the car to take him to

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Speaker 4: the White Party or something that showed up, and.

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Speaker 5: It's like, that's great.

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01:03:29,346 --> 01:03:30,506
Speaker 2: It's great so far.

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01:03:30,746 --> 01:03:32,666
Speaker 5: I only know about it through you. Now I have

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01:03:32,706 --> 01:03:33,426
Speaker 5: to admit.

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01:03:33,666 --> 01:03:34,586
Speaker 2: I know it's good.

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01:03:34,666 --> 01:03:35,106
Speaker 3: It's over.

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01:03:35,306 --> 01:03:37,906
Speaker 2: We got through it, all right with no further ado.

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01:03:38,226 --> 01:03:40,386
Speaker 2: Let's wrap this thing. I like that, no further ado,

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Speaker 2: Let's wrap. We'll see you next week. The Season with

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Speaker 2: Peter Schrager, Aaron Wankoffman, thank you, Jason English, thank you,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Grusso, thank you, and all the folks on the

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Speaker 2: West Coast who are listening, and US fans and listeners.

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Speaker 2: It means a lot that you listen. Let's get a

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Speaker 2: couple of viral Instagram videos going from this podcast, and

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Speaker 2: let's go from there. All right, boys.

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