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Speaker 1: It's also really interesting because different adults relationship to her

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Speaker 3: Me think to watch show my daughter searching for Bobby

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Speaker 3: Fisher the other day, I've ever seen oh wow, great one. Yeah,

439
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Speaker 3: And then the other to day for my daughter's ten birthday,

440
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Speaker 3: five person sleepover, and they watched Clueless. Oh no, some

441
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Speaker 3: of them had, some of them had DoD They like it.

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Speaker 1: What do they think? I think they loved it? Oh good.

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Speaker 2: Oh that makes me so happy to hear, because I'm like,

444
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Speaker 2: does this will because one of my curiosities is will

445
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Speaker 2: this work on a younger A way younger generation. Yeah,

446
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Speaker 2: and I'm so glad to hear that it has or

447
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Speaker 2: that it might.

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Speaker 1: They seem pretty happy. I think I think it will.

449
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Speaker 1: Wonder we want to know why, because what's what makes

450
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Speaker 1: that movie work so well is that it's a shared

451
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Speaker 1: language in the movie that like you may not understand,

452
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Speaker 1: but they understand itself.

453
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Speaker 2: Fantasy is so fun. It's such a fun world. Yeah,

454
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Speaker 2: it really is.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely some things over the over the kids heads. Sure.

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Speaker 1: I remember watching it the first time and being like,

457
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Speaker 1: I remember the moment. I was an astro van on

458
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Speaker 1: a road trip with my parents and you know how

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Speaker 1: they put the like big TV in the back of

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Speaker 1: the astro vans and my sister I was I think

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Speaker 1: I was nine and she was six, and we watched

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Speaker 1: List and it ended and we both just stared at

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Speaker 1: the screen and I said, I don't know if I

464
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Speaker 1: vocalize this, but I was like, if something to the

465
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Speaker 1: effect of like I think I love that, and my

466
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Speaker 1: sister who's six, goes me too, I want to watch

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Speaker 1: it again right now. Oh wow, you know what. And

468
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Speaker 1: it's speaking to what you just said about. It's visually

469
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Speaker 1: so fun. They're so confident doing it. Yeah, it feels

470
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Speaker 1: like it still feels after it's tried to be copied

471
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Speaker 1: so many times, it feels like it's doing its own thing.

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Speaker 3: And also Alicia Silverstone just in like a magical period.

473
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Speaker 3: It's something sometimes stars are having it, like Valkilmer is

474
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Speaker 3: a good example passed away recently. You look at like

475
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Speaker 3: real genius. You just go, I don't know what was

476
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Speaker 3: going on.

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Speaker 1: Something was something was happening. Yeah, with Valculmer in that

478
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Speaker 1: movie is like magic is that person?

479
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so aligned with the era. Yeah, it's when

480
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Speaker 2: it Yeah, it's when a performer isigned with the era.

481
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Speaker 2: But I mean it's like.

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Speaker 3: Tom Cruise, like risky business, just like I don't know

483
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Speaker 3: what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would say Lindsay Lohan too. I was

485
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Speaker 1: gonna say I was just saying and like who else

486
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Speaker 1: for like a for like a longer period that was

487
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Speaker 1: like a five six year period.

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Speaker 3: But I was just so Aaron Stapplindsay Lohan is fantastic

489
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Speaker 3: and my daughter loves, oh my god, the best.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you seen this play? John Proctor is the villain.

491
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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I brought it in today

492
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Speaker 1: and they can even use this. It's about a classroom

493
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Speaker 1: in high school in twenty eighteen, who is reading The

494
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Speaker 1: Crucible under new eyes amidst me too and everything. It's fantastic. Oh,

495
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Speaker 1: we'll go see it for sure. But it got me

496
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Speaker 1: in a work. Oh she was one of the best.

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Speaker 1: Abigail Williams is in The Crucible. Oh yeah writers another one.

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Speaker 3: Yes, magical in that era like be Beatle, Juice, Heathery, Yeah,

499
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Speaker 3: Age of Innocence. This is the thing I always have

500
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Speaker 3: to remind myself about living in New York. Sometimes you

501
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: with New York, you're like too many people, this is

502
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Speaker 3: just too many people. But then you see a show

503
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 3: like that you go, oh, right, like we we went

504
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 3: for UNA's birthday to see Wicked. After She's in the

505
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: movies at times and I'm just losing it, like dancing

506
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Speaker 3: through life just like.

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Speaker 1: That ending unbelievable. That's me gets me.

508
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Speaker 3: But what you're saying, there's too many people in New

509
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 3: York and there for you don't want you want to

510
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Speaker 3: go and go to the theater.

511
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Speaker 1: Exactly, We're going to take advantage of what we have

512
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Speaker 1: to it. Honestly, I'm on my kick again right now.

513
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: Obviously it's like it's like Tony sees it, well now

514
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: you have more time time soon. But and I'm seeing

515
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Speaker 1: a lot, and I try to only come here with

516
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Speaker 1: like the highlights because I see a lot. So I

517
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Speaker 1: just saw maybe happy ending, which was amazing. And this

518
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Speaker 1: John Proctor is the villain is my favorite thing I've

519
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Speaker 1: seen in quite some Oh wow, yeah it's it's and

520
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Speaker 1: Sadie Sync is the star and I'm like really excited

521
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Speaker 1: that she used her star power from Stranger Things to

522
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Speaker 1: highlight something like this. That's great. The player at is

523
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Speaker 1: Kimberly Bellflower. She's amazing, Yes, yes, yes, and the whole

524
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Speaker 1: cast is fantastic. It's just it's really I thought like

525
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Speaker 1: at first, like when I saw like it marketed, it

526
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: looked like Girl Boss the Crucible, and I was like, okay, interesting, but.

527
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Speaker 3: It's like which we would still gladly see you know

528
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, But you never know what like mainstream

529
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Speaker 3: theater is going to do, of course, But they've been

530
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Speaker 3: impressing me every time I've gone out lately.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like really excited about what's on stage. Love,

532
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Speaker 1: I love, good night and good luck George? What else?

533
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Speaker 1: What else is upright now?

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Speaker 2: As you see, I'm not the person to ask this

535
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Speaker 2: is your guy, But now that I've got time, I've

536
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Speaker 2: said the things I love.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, are you

538
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Speaker 1: read the subtag? Read the subtext?

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Speaker 3: Are you pre dreading the questions you'll be asked about

540
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Speaker 3: the Pope and about how this special kind of presciently

541
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Speaker 3: focuses on the pope pre.

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Speaker 1: Conclave, pre election. Yeah, it's like it was like a

543
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Speaker 1: year ago.

544
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Speaker 3: Jim Gaffigan calls me, who was on behalf of Stephen Colbert,

545
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Speaker 3: asking me to go made the Pope.

546
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Speaker 1: But I was very torn.

547
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Speaker 3: It was older boy as a kid, and you know

548
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Speaker 3: in the eighties like Spotlight. You know what Spotlight was about?

549
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Speaker 3: Literally in Boston, Yeah, Massachusetts. That was a movie that

550
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Speaker 3: Tom McCarthy's movie Spotlight that hit me so hard. Incredible movie,

551
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: but but like, yeah, so I've always had like deep

552
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Speaker 3: concerns about the Catholic Church, and and I thought about it,

553
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Speaker 3: and ultimately it was just like this is very important

554
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Speaker 3: to my parents, Like they raised me Catholic, my my

555
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Speaker 3: my mom went to Latin Mass when she was a kid,

556
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Speaker 3: like pre Vatican to Catholic Church, and so I knew,

557
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Speaker 3: like and they were going through a hard time, and

558
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Speaker 3: I was just like, Okay, I'm gonna go. And there's

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Speaker 3: a oddsyn chronicity. Poe Francis's real name was Bergoglio. My

560
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Speaker 3: last name is Bera Bilio, and uh yeah, so that's

561
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Speaker 3: like he just he just kind of like kind of

562
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Speaker 3: like googled himself or something or no, he just looked

563
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Speaker 3: at it though.

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Speaker 1: He like, look, yeah, he just googled comedian. And he's like,

565
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Speaker 1: I'm a bit of agodio. It's my he's got to

566
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Speaker 1: be here. We gotta make sure he's in the room.

567
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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, as far as popes go, he

568
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: was pretty good, I thought, right, And yeah, he bus

569
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Speaker 3: gay couples and he was open. This is what would

570
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Speaker 3: Big Goldberg pointed out because she was one of the

571
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Speaker 3: people who was there with us. She was a big

572
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Speaker 3: fan of Frances. He welcomed divorced couples back into the church.

573
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Speaker 3: I was like, we weren't welcoming divorce.

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Speaker 1: Like what I did not get the memo on that one.

575
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Speaker 3: But then, but then when I was there, there's a

576
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Speaker 3: lot of talk when with the insiders of like we're

577
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Speaker 3: a little worried that it might be a conservative pope

578
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Speaker 3: because the international side of the church is sometimes very

579
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Speaker 3: much more conservative than Po Francis was. And so to

580
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Speaker 3: your point earlier of like this new pope Leo, it's

581
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Speaker 3: like it's like, yes, there's there's things you can criticize,

582
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Speaker 3: but also we dodged a bullet of like yeah, we

583
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Speaker 3: got the trump of popes right right, and could have

584
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Speaker 3: been like could have been sure, and we were tracked

585
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Speaker 3: what we what we've said about Leo. I would that's

586
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Speaker 3: the first thing I was gonna ask you to do.

587
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Speaker 3: I have really strong feelings with this. No, I know

588
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Speaker 3: almost nothing about the pop Leo guy.

589
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Speaker 1: I mean, all I know is with the way that

590
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Speaker 1: queer media was up in arms about him being not

591
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Speaker 1: up in arms, but you know what I mean, Like

592
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Speaker 1: people had something to say and expressing disappointment about him

593
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Speaker 1: saying that marriage is between a man and a woman,

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately, I would I would remind those people, this

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Speaker 1: is the Catholic Church, Like it's kind of that's that's

596
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: what that's their modus operand so it's it's like, I

597
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe I was more irritated at it being

598
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Speaker 1: like a news itemdline.

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Speaker 3: There's might take on all major world religions because I

600
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Speaker 3: like to disrespect, disrespect.

601
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Speaker 1: All religions equallyam is.

602
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Speaker 3: I think a summit we could have it, the three

603
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Speaker 3: of us call a summit all the major world religions.

604
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Speaker 3: We'd like to talk about sexuality and gender.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about gay people? How do you

606
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: feel about women? Yeah, there's like open open forum, talk

607
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: about it. Reality. Put it on a fucking record, you

608
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Speaker 1: know what I mean.

609
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Speaker 3: But if that's how you feel, put it on the

610
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Speaker 3: record in front of all these people, and we're going

611
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Speaker 3: to talk about it. Because I think it's weird that

612
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 3: we have this this vague.

613
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Speaker 1: Thing like this is kind of homophobic. This is you know,

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Speaker 1: this is sexist. They don't let women be priests.

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Speaker 3: They kind of do, but only sometimes sometimes in Europe.

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Speaker 1: It's okay, whatever, and I'm like, no, let's have a

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Speaker 1: summ up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's record feel and then put that on a

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Speaker 2: one sheet you know what I mean, put it on

620
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Speaker 2: a Google doc.

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Speaker 1: Put it on Google doc, and then have lead PR

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Speaker 1: and send that out. Yeah, I DPR, get involved, get

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Speaker 1: involved and send that out to Conde nasten Hers. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: People who are religious of any religion YEA like no, no,

625
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Speaker 1: we're are our religions. Okay. With women, I'm like, well

626
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Speaker 1: I've heard some things. Yeah, right, you know what I mean,

627
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: It's like we're okay with game for something. Yeah, I

628
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: guess it's like if anyone did gymnastics, you know enough,

629
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: like you could you could justify anything. Like I understand

630
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: that people find, you know, a lot of peace and

631
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: solace and you know, community and these types of things.

632
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: But it's like, let's just not pretend they're not what

633
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: they are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, every religion is a structure of structured meaning,

635
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: and then people like seek out meaning in religion and

636
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: then they just have to like reconcile how much of

637
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Speaker 2: themselves is compatible with like that meaning. I'm being so general.

638
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Speaker 2: There actually is.

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Speaker 3: A good there's a really good documentary about the Pope Francis,

640
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: who passed away called the man Pope Francis a man

641
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Speaker 3: of his word, and it was interesting because he actually

642
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: did like meet with a lot of different religious world

643
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Speaker 3: leaders about the religion. And I do think that that

644
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: is at the moment we're in world history. Like I

645
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 3: never talked about it this ship, but like no, but

646
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: like that's what we should do. I think the religion

647
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 3: should be that because it's like they have more in

648
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: common than not. Yea, yeah, It's like you look at

649
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 3: all the religions they're arguing with each other. It's like, no, no,

650
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: you all believe the same kind of totally fake thing,

651
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Speaker 3: totally like and no, no, FA was like maybe it's fake,

652
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: maybe it's not, but it's very similar. What you guys

653
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Speaker 3: believe in is very similar. Right, So maybe we'll get

654
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Speaker 3: on the same page about like human rights. I don't know,

655
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Speaker 3: just an idea.

656
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Speaker 1: We have to ask you the question of our podcast.

657
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Speaker 1: We've sort of been dancing around it in several ways,

658
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Speaker 1: I think, But Mike, what was the culture that made

659
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Speaker 1: you say culture was for you?

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Speaker 3: Okay, since I already covered my epiphany of auditioning for

661
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Speaker 3: an imprupture, it's the movie Jerremyguire, Oh wow, because when

662
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: it came out I loved it and it made me

663
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Speaker 3: feel a thing. And then I went and studied screenwriting

664
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Speaker 3: at Georgetown and my professor John Glavin taught it like

665
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Speaker 3: it was a text, like it was a book in

666
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Speaker 3: a class. We read the script, we watched the movie,

667
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: we broke down the beats, and I started to understand, like, oh,

668
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 3: this is not magic, and this is not just a

669
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Speaker 3: popcorn movie. No, Like that's the thing. Is like even

670
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: Wickeds another examples, like is a popcorn movie. A lot

671
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 3: of people pop tickets to it, but it's really meaningful,

672
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Speaker 3: like I cried during it. I cried during Jurream Maguire

673
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Speaker 3: like I take the stigma away from movies that are popular.

674
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Speaker 1: But make you feel something like that's a great feat.

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Speaker 1: I I'm so glad you said that. Yeah, he has

676
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Speaker 1: he has formative stuff.

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Speaker 2: Formative with dry Maguire one of the one of the

678
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Speaker 2: first movies we got from Blockbuster. I think way too

679
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: young to be watching it. Yeah, sure is watching Tom Cruise,

680
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: fuck Kelly, Oh my god.

681
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Speaker 1: Yes. I was like, don't ever stop sucking me as

682
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Speaker 1: we stop, and then and then later and then later.

683
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Speaker 3: Post eat like no, no, no, like like eating something strawberry.

684
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Speaker 1: No no, she like disnounced them. She goes, I'm gonna

685
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Speaker 1: get some fruit.

686
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Speaker 3: It's like a tight, close up, tight sing along Kelly

687
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Speaker 3: Preston so crazy Wall.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But that movie Mede, Yeah, kind of a perfect movie,

689
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: a perfect man in many ways. And also you know

690
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Speaker 1: what I was just thinking, so many elements come together

691
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Speaker 1: to make it good. Like the song Secret Garden. Oh

692
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Speaker 1: my gosh, fuck off, I know.

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Speaker 3: Y right.

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Speaker 1: On the radio, they would play that song with clips

695
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Speaker 1: you had me at Hello. Literally I would be listening

696
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: to like whatever radio station one to six point one

697
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: b L when I was younger, and like they would

698
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Speaker 1: play Secret Garden with Renee doing it. And they also

699
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: did that for Sometimes My Heart Will Go On in

700
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Speaker 1: titan Y. Yeah, there was certain movies they did this with,

701
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Speaker 1: and it was always always those like emotional peaks of

702
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: the movie that created lore. And this is a time too,

703
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: when I feel like soundtracking was speaking to movies in

704
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Speaker 1: such a specific way, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: it would like I remember having like the City of

706
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: Angels soundtrack because yeah, you remember the image of her

707
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Speaker 1: Meg Ryan riding the bike with her arms out like this.

708
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Speaker 1: It's like there was that you kind of need music to.

709
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Speaker 1: They still do that. I Barby Barbie was the most significant.

710
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Barbie did that.

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Speaker 2: I think, oh that song's great, so good, and so

712
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: many of those songs. But I was gonna say the

713
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Speaker 2: last time that like maybe I'm maybe I'm misremembering this,

714
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Speaker 2: but I feel like with Star is Born, when they

715
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Speaker 2: would play either Shallow or like always remember Us, this

716
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: is the way they would cut in some bits from

717
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Speaker 2: A Star is Born.

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Speaker 1: It was like there was a there you could listen to,

719
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Speaker 1: like the radio version of Shallow, or there was like

720
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Speaker 1: a movie version. And you know what you're thinking of

721
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Speaker 1: is at the end when it's I'll Never Fall. They

722
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Speaker 1: sometimes will at the end, she's like singing the last chorus,

723
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Speaker 1: and then they'll cut to him doing it from the

724
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Speaker 1: movie and that way, which is what it is in

725
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Speaker 1: the movie. She doesn't because there's a version of that

726
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: song where she literally just belt her tits off for

727
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Speaker 1: the last remainder of it and it ends like like

728
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Speaker 1: when those ballads does. But then the movie just literally

729
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: cuts to him finishing the song and then it's back

730
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Speaker 1: with her crime. Yeah, it's amazing the.

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Speaker 3: Other thing about Jerrey maguire is like it has a

732
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Speaker 3: love story that's not perfect, it's kind of beautiful. It

733
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Speaker 3: is beautiful because you're just like at the end, you go, well,

734
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Speaker 3: maybe they shouldn't be together.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're like, that's kind of sweet, like they're

737
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Speaker 3: they're taking the leap together.

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Speaker 2: Of course, talk about the other kind of unless it's

739
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: hard to capture with language, like talk about the magic

740
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: that you felt watching it growing up, that like was

741
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Speaker 2: dispelled once you got to college.

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Speaker 3: The magic was I'm laughing. It's the thing I try

743
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 3: to achieve in my shows. It's like I'm laughing, I'm crying,

744
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm feeling emotions. And then somehow you just think because

745
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: it's a quote unquote popular movie, popcorn movie, you're just like, well,

746
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: that's not important. Oh, it's so important.

747
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: I know.

748
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: It drives me crazy when cultural things that are great

749
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: are viewed as not important.

750
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Speaker 1: Because snobs come in. Yeah, and you know a great

751
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: example Wicked, the original Broadway production.

752
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: People always say this. They're like, you know, it's been

753
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 3: running for what twenty years or whatever. It's like the

754
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: first reviews were like snobby. They're like, it's not good

755
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, actually, let the audiences decide, because

756
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: audiences are crushed by it. Yeah, I am crushed at

757
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: the production of Wicked.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like crying.

759
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife and I were crying and are you

760
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Speaker 3: know our daughter.

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00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: Was just like great, you know what I mean, I'll

762
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: never forget you. She loved it. She loved it, but

763
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: it's not like that, not like that. Well also because

764
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: not for nothing, but she doesn't understand. She's not old

765
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Speaker 1: enough yet to understand maybe why. It's like, I think

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00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: that young girls obviously respond to that movie because of

767
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: friendship and because of you know, what it feels like

768
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: to feel outcast or to accept someone and to really

769
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: work hard on, you know, proving loyalty and like that. Though,

770
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: all those things are really beautiful, and I think that's

771
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: why young girls love it. But also like when I

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Speaker 1: saw with my parents, I took my dad and mom

773
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Speaker 1: to it. I saw it five times as well. I

774
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: daught her, you know bias aside, like I also fucking

775
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: love the movie. And I turned to my dad and

776
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: I was like, well, it's about fascism, and he was

777
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: like and he just sat there and he was like, yeah,

778
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: it is and I think that that is something that's

779
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: like also part of it for an adult man, is

780
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: it's like, wow, like this movie is literally about speaking

781
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: truth to power and paying for it. She she's just

782
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: an example of someone who is not strong enough and

783
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: is not willing to make the sacrifice that she does

784
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: in the end. She does in the end, but in

785
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: the where specifically about that movement, that moment of defying gravity,

786
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm sorry, I cannot give up up all

787
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: the things that make me me to join you, even

788
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: if I know it's right. And that's that she is

789
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: in process because she's been so protected and the privileged,

790
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: and it's going to take a while, and she's gonna

791
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 1: have to lose real stuff yes spoiler alert fact too

792
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: for her to do those things. And even then she

793
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 1: doesn't really do it publicly, you know what I'm saying.

794
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: So that is complicated ship for an adult, and it's

795
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: it is very moving and.

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Speaker 3: It's not and by the way, it's not just similar

797
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: to the thing I'm saying. It connects me with Jerry maguire,

798
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: the imperfection, the drawing out of the imperfection of just

799
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: being alive and how nothing is cut and dry.

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Speaker 1: And Tom Cruise has never looked better, never looked better. Also, Yeah,

801
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean here's here's what I'll say, Fucking Renee. I

802
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: think Renee is the reason why. It's not even just

803
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: because of her line deliveries, which are spectacular, it's just

804
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: it's an example of perfect casting.

805
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they the first kiss thing and he's like snaps

806
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: her bra by accident and he laughs and it's charming.

807
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise Web. Yeah, I'm gonna watch that tonight. It's perfect.

808
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: You you're you've really.

809
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Speaker 3: Jenny and I have my wife and I Jen's a

810
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: poet and we both have this obsessive thing with movies,

811
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: which is great.

812
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: Movies are like songs.

813
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 3: It's just what you can watch them over and over again,

814
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: and there's something peaceful about it.

815
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. It changes your parameters as you're consuming this. Yeah,

816
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: it's not lost. I'm wearing wearingis shirt that I got

817
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: a advint. This is one of my favorite movies, Thelma

818
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: and Louise, And it's the same thing, same thing. It's this,

819
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: it's it's and also there's this, which they don't do

820
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: in movies that much anymore, where they'll end it on

821
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: a real curveball that's like, yeah, makes it art, you

822
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I feel like there's something

823
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Speaker 1: non traditional and weird about her stopping him in the

824
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: middle of his sentence to be like stop doing the

825
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: proclamation you had me at hello, right, you know what

826
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Speaker 1: I mean. And also, like you said, maybe they shouldn't

827
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: be doing this, like the relationship i've been a little toxic.

828
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: But it's like, but they're gonna try anyway. And in

829
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: this movie Thelema and louis obviously spoilers, but if you're

830
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, you probably understand they choose to die.

831
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Speaker 1: They would rather drive off a cliff no get caught.

832
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: And so I remember when the movie Rock it is

833
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: And also it's just it's not it's clearly ignoring what

834
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure our studio notes, you know.

835
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Speaker 3: And by the way, they probably shot it both ways

836
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: and probably exactly they probably shot it without them going

837
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Speaker 3: off the cliff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or I don't know, it's a good question. We

839
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: should find that out.

840
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, this has made me realize. It's

841
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: like you're saying, like, what's the epiphany thing for me

842
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: in culture? The other one was Maybe Say Anything, which

843
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 3: is another Cameron Crow movie.

844
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: Because I still say anything.

845
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: When I was a kid, and I remember quoting it

846
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: with Michael Kavanaugh, my best friend, like back and forth.

847
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: And doing the this you know that the boom box

848
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: in the air.

849
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Speaker 3: And we were like ten, yeah, I mean, Cameron crow was,

850
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna come up here and say, Elizabethtown underrated movie.

851
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: I love Elizabeth, I love this, I love that. I

852
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: think it's so.

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00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 3: I think Elizabeth towns great. I think almost famous is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Course of course, that's just that's really that's quite a

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Speaker 3: good And also he wrote a Fast Times, Oh I wrote,

856
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Speaker 3: didn't direct it. Oh God, I got it. I think

857
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 3: Fast Times classic classic.

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Speaker 1: There's something wasn't Fast Times. Ammy Hackling she directed.

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Speaker 2: You Go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So that all these movies, it's like there's stuff

861
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Speaker 1: about them that Bowen uses this wonderful word serrates them,

862
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: that makes the memorable like a little bit just literally.

863
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Speaker 2: Just like a little bit askew, so slightly off completely.

864
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Speaker 1: Like even like for example, like even in Clueless, like

865
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Speaker 1: you watch that movie and you see the way they're

866
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: dressed and you think, oh, the early nineties, No, they

867
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: were dressed like badly and stupidly even for that really,

868
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: but it's like, it's like, that's not how they dressed

869
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: at Beverly Hills High School. I don't think, but like,

870
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: but but it's it's over drawn. You remember, you'll you'll

871
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: never forget seeing her in that yellow you know it was.

872
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't Vivian West what it couldn't have, but it

873
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: feels like it. It feels like it speaks in that world.

874
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: I can't say what designer it was, but there's this

875
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: stuff that you go out of your way. You have

876
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: to go out of your way to make it memorable

877
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: and iconic. This to say anything thing, it's like who

878
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: holds a like that doesn't move no one, but but

879
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: it made it iconic drama. It's so good it's crazy.

880
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: And then the other ones.

881
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 3: I mean, like I'm obsess with that whole seventies eighties movies.

882
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: ET is like that, just like I could watch it

883
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: over and over again. It's super emotional.

884
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: You watch ET now, it's like it's an indie film, right,

885
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, looks like the biggest blocks

886
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 3: like an Jaws feels like an indie film.

887
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Oh Jaws is It's unbelievable that that's a huge of

888
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: a blockbuster as it is because of how slow moving

889
00:41:59,360 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: it is.

890
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 3: Yes, Oho, there's this great story about the director who

891
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: who did Paper Moon, Bugdanovic. We run Peter Baniavitch runs

892
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: into runs into Stielberg at like the Boston like Logan Airport,

893
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: and Steelberg had just shot on Martha's vineyard shot Jaws,

894
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: and he's like, how did it go? And he was

895
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 3: just like, there's a shark. It's a disaster. We don't

896
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: have the movie. Oh, it's just like one of those

897
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: funny stories where like they leave the movie set thinking

898
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: they don't happen.

899
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right, right, right right. They were like, well,

900
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: this was.

901
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: A huge catastrophe, and I think they found it a

902
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: lot in post in editing, and then it changed the

903
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 3: movie industry. Yeah, I mean we had that. We don't

904
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: think twice to some degree. You know, there's that speech

905
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 3: where Chris Cathery goes, I think your twenties are about hope.

906
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: In your thirties are about realizing how dumb it was

907
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: to hope. We added that in post because Ira Glass,

908
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 3: one of our producers, we were watching the movie and

909
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: he goes, the audience doesn't.

910
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: Get when we show cuts to people, they.

911
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: Don't get that they know they're losers or there.

912
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: They know they're under the characters.

913
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: The characters, they know they're underdogs, and so we would

914
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 3: have a we showed it. We did a screening at

915
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 3: NPR Downtown and these two these two ladies got up

916
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: and they were like, it was a feedback screening in

917
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 3: the early cut, and they go, we don't like it,

918
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: and you go, why don't you like it?

919
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: Ira goes, why don't you like it? They lose it

920
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: and what was so funny? We went back to the edit.

921
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: We're like, they're losers.

922
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: They're losers, but like, how come we think it's funny

923
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: that they're losers?

924
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: But they know it? And it's like, oh, we haven't.

925
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: The characters haven't acknowledged it. They know what they are. Yeah,

926
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: And so.

927
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: We're like, what if we shot a scene where they're

928
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: packing up and they're moving out of the theater and

929
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: Chris Cather goes, Your twenties about hoping to thirty is

930
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: about realizing how dumb it was to hope change the

931
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: whole screening every like isn't great? Yeah, but also such

932
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: a smart way to convey all of that. That's a

933
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 3: lot to communicate, and you did it. All in that

934
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 3: one and that one scene.

935
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: Thanks.

936
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: It's a funny thing, like even writing my movie right

937
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: now that I'm writing, it's like you really have to

938
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: toe the line between how much do the characters get

939
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: what's funny about them?

940
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: That's a really interesting idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

941
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 3: Because like Gilmore Girls is like that super witty right,

942
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: like they're in on it, but they're almost not exactly

943
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: they like they they know that they're codependent or whatever.

944
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, and yet to what extent yes or something.

945
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: It's like a really interesting thing that you bring up

946
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: that these women like, we don't like the movie because

947
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: they're losers. Because I actually think one of the things

948
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: about Don't Think Twice that shook me to my core

949
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: so much when I watched it, and now I see it,

950
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: I see it now looking back, and I fucking love

951
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: the movie and I appreciate it in a way I

952
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: didn't at the time because I felt so defensive. Yeah,

953
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: because I think your movie Don't Think Twice. It really

954
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: makes you think about yourself, and.

955
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: Especially if you were doing comedy in that time, yeah,

956
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: doing improv and yeah, yeah, like I just.

957
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Remember thinking, like this is a mean depiction of our community.

958
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that your character, I'm gonna use an

959
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: explicit word that upsets people, but your character calls Tammy

960
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: Sager's character a cunt, and I remember I was just like,

961
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: I can't believe. But now I think that that was

962
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: such a brave, bold thing to do, weirdly enough, because

963
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: it really showed ugliness and envy and in like a

964
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: very abject, painful personal way. And I'm not saying that

965
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: like anyone that we knew or even us went as

966
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: far or as shallow as any of this. I'm just

967
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: saying that, like, it's an incredibly intense situation that you're depicting,

968
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: because it's kind of like being a kid and not

969
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: knowing that the world is bigger when you are confronted

970
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: with what you assume is the only job in the

971
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: world for you and it doesn't go that well, it's

972
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: about everything else. Everything else breaks down. Yeah, And friendship

973
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: is so intense.

974
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: When I was writing that movie, I was hosting A

975
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 3: Q and A with Noah Bombback for the movie While

976
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: We're Young, I think it was, or maybe it was

977
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: Fans's I Forget, and I said to Mike, I'm writing

978
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: this movie about an improv group and they're best friends.

979
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: One of them gets on SNL and there are some

980
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: don't I go, but the people giving me notes are

981
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 3: like the stakes aren't high enough. He goes, I know,

982
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: it's the funny thing because it depicted, you know, indicative

983
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 3: of all of his movies.

984
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: He goes, there's no stakes higher than friendship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

985
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, as we just sit here and just

986
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: say the word yeah fifty times. But it's I want

987
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: this to.

988
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: Be our engagement of a deeper friendship between the three

989
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 3: of us. Yes, because I feel like whenever I see

990
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: you guys, whenever we run into each other, it's like,

991
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 3: I think there's love. There is, but I'm like, we

992
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: should spend more time together. Well you you.

993
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Are good with the gays. Oh yeah, the gaze. You know.

994
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: He is old friends with Jordan Ardino really Gilmore girls. Yeah,

995
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: this is high school and college friends. Yeah really Massachusetts. Yeah,

996
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: in California, California to Massachusetts. Yeah yeah, yeah, Jordan's amazing.

997
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: There's a great writer. He's a great writer. Right. Yeah.

998
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 3: He and I were that in That's great same screen

999
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 3: writing class in college.

1000
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: Oh really, we were close friends.

1001
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: In high school and then he came to visit me

1002
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: when I was in college. He was at Tough and

1003
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: then he was just like, I just want to go here. Yeah,

1004
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: and so he transfer. We went to college together.

1005
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, where we wanted to go to Georgetown. A lot

1006
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: of not hugs. That's a lot of that's a really

1007
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: number thirty. I don't want to go to Georgetown. That's

1008
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: a lot of hugs. I would say.

1009
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for Jordany, but I think

1010
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: I can say there's.

1011
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: A lot of It's a lot of, man, it's a

1012
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: lot of enough hugs. You and I both well, we

1013
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: don't have to bring in that's nothing. I don't want

1014
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: to talk about in what you.

1015
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 3: Necessarily I was going to say, you and I you

1016
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: not got very different amounts of hugs growing up. I

1017
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 3: would say, well, it's funny at.

1018
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 1: The same school. Yeah, n y U was different. But

1019
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I think we're I think we were both there for

1020
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: different trauma. That's not related to hugging or not hugging.

1021
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: But I think that something that's so clear is like,

1022
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: it's good that you hug your daughter a lot. And

1023
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: I don't want you to think about because I think

1024
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're teaching her what real love is,

1025
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: and a lot of people have and something I don't

1026
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: think I understand because I'm privileged to genuinely know what

1027
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: real love is because my parents have always shown me

1028
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: real love and have always been very good with me

1029
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: in terms of that is a lot of people just

1030
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: don't baseline know that. They don't baseline know what it

1031
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: really is to be cared for and to have someone

1032
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the day that's going to say

1033
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: I love you. And I think that I didn't realize

1034
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 1: that was such a privilege, you know what I'm saying,

1035
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: until until I was you know, having like conflicts with

1036
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: people later in life, or you know, things work out,

1037
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: don't work out whatever with different people, and you're just realizing, oh,

1038
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm operating with a different emotional deck. Yeah, thank god, No,

1039
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: you're right.

1040
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: It's funny when you, yeah, if you get into like

1041
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: a petty disagreement with somebody and sometimes they go so

1042
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: hard on it and you and you have to step

1043
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: back and just be like, no, no, we're all just

1044
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: doing our best, right, you know.

1045
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you, Like it's yeah, no,

1046
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely more better to love more than less.

1047
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: Right, And even in the moments in the special, I'll

1048
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: say where you're like a huge part of my life

1049
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 2: is going to children's birthday parties.

1050
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 1: I get two hundred three hundred.

1051
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like ooh, I can grow up and hear

1052
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: that and think, oh, like my dad is making is

1053
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: like exasperated by this thing that he had to do

1054
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: for me, and he's like, is that something resentful? But no,

1055
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: even in that, you're like, I do this. I show

1056
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: up for my daughter, right, and it's this thing that

1057
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: I can.

1058
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: Joke about hating because it'll make this room full of

1059
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: people and adults laugh.

1060
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: Yeah she can.

1061
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: I think it is so clear with that messages to her,

1062
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: which is my dad loves me.

1063
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: He takes me to these birthday parties. Yes, show up.

1064
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: I had to talk through a joke with her the

1065
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: other day that in the special, because it's going to

1066
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 3: be seen by a lot of people, and you know,

1067
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 3: I had to be like.

1068
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: Because there's a joke, I say, doesn't have it? Yeah,

1069
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: that explain that to that because I remember listening to it.

1070
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's it. That's a that's a

1071
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: pretty rough So I said.

1072
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: To her, I go, there's this joke and I say,

1073
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: we went to my wife and I went to our

1074
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 3: daughter's vallet recital, and we're in the audience crying, crying

1075
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 3: because she doesn't have it. You know.

1076
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: I go, no, we're crying because she's not going.

1077
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 3: Dollar on the lessons and hundreds of hours going to

1078
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: rehearsal and she's not going prop And then I go,

1079
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: I go, no, No, We're crying for the right reasons.

1080
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: And then afterwards I'm squeezing out. You know, you were

1081
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 3: so fantastic. And she said to me, it's true to life.

1082
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: She goes, Dad, you would say it was fantastic even

1083
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 3: if I wasn't a fan past that.

1084
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: I said, that is so true.

1085
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: You're so much better at logic than you are at ballehet, right,

1086
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: I got, I didn't I.

1087
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: Left out that last part.

1088
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: I'm going to say that too when she's fifteen and

1089
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: she tells me I'm garbage, and I'm gonna say I

1090
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 3: had some candid thoughts about you as well when you

1091
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: were seven that I withheld out of respect.

1092
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: But I did share with a group of strangers at

1093
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: the Beacon Theater.

1094
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 3: But I explained it to Una in relation to I go,

1095
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 3: sometimes jokes are something that is true, and then something

1096
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: that is the opposite of true or completely not true

1097
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 3: or a variation on true. And the show the special

1098
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 3: that I wrote is a series of things where it's

1099
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 3: like true, not true, true, not true, true, silly true, silly.

1100
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 3: And then at the end of the movie or at

1101
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: the end I have sometimes a complation with movies. Yeah,

1102
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 3: at the end of the show, it lands untrue. And

1103
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 3: because it lends untrue, I think the audience knows, oh, okay,

1104
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: this person's in earnest.

1105
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1106
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 2: And the true thing about this special is the way

1107
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: a parent loves their chime.

1108
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: Yes yeah, and understanding my dad and after he's had

1109
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: a stroke and realizing when his defenses are down and

1110
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't have the anger that he had before the stroke,

1111
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: that I do think like he meant well.

1112
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Of course, that is a whole can of worms, because

1113
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: especially because you know, men as they get older and

1114
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: the estrogen creep up, you know what I mean, Like,

1115
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: it's they get more emotional. I think they get more contemplative,

1116
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: and I think it's just harder for men to look

1117
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: back on being men. Yeah, like, because so much of

1118
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: it is just not cruel, but it's rough and it's

1119
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: speaking to this idea of what a man is, which

1120
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: can never really be justified in the way that we

1121
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: accepted it for such a long time. But I think

1122
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: that's really hard for men as they get older, as

1123
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: they look back, and they they have regrets about trying

1124
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: to attain that idea of what it means to be

1125
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: a man and no absolutely and all those things. And

1126
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: I've had a couple emotional conversations with my dad about,

1127
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, one time, it was after we taped my

1128
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: special and he was expressing I think we had a

1129
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: few drinks and he was expressing some regrets about you

1130
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: know whatever, like like having a gay son and not

1131
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: feeling like you didn't get it right. And I had

1132
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: to like tell him, I was like, you got to

1133
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: let yourself off the hook, because nothing you ever did

1134
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: was because you didn't love me. You were trying your

1135
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: best and like, and it is a moment that I think,

1136
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm I'm obviously very happy I had and I and

1137
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: I will can continue to have because of that moment.

1138
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: But it's really hard, like men relating to each other

1139
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: in that type of way. That's why I think it's

1140
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: so beautiful that like you have that like open channel

1141
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: with your with your child, because it's like it takes

1142
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: some people really long time. And I always heard I

1143
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: love you from my dad. I always heard proud of you,

1144
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: always heard those things. But it's just it's just in

1145
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: like as as men get older, like it can be

1146
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: uncomfortable to have those types of conversations, like even just

1147
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: when you put your hand on his shoulder and rub

1148
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: his shoulder like that probably took a lot lot, yeah,

1149
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: but but those are really those are so important because

1150
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: what if Because what if you didn't you know what

1151
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean.

1152
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we talked about that when you were on

1153
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 3: my podcast a lot with your parents, because you had

1154
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: the challenging stuff, which I really hope you should do

1155
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: a solo show someday.

1156
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah, that's there. There's there's definitely.

1157
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 2: I mean I did even do it underground, so such

1158
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: a jumbled mess of a show. I don't even know

1159
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 2: what I was trying to do with it, but uh,

1160
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,479
Speaker 2: there's there's something there for sure.

1161
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1162
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: I just I'm still making sense of it and we're

1163
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: still talking about it as as a family, and it's

1164
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: all it's all okay, it's all it's all true.

1165
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: Do they say I'm proud of you.

1166
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: Now they do, do they now they do? But it

1167
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 2: took them a while and and they came to the

1168
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: show a few weeks ago, and just I took them

1169
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 2: out for Mother's Day and a lovely we have a

1170
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: we have a lovely time.

1171
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: Now. I also want to say your show was not

1172
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: a mess. You were just you. It was not a mess.

1173
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: You were just in process on you were so in

1174
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: process and the feelings. It's kind of like what we

1175
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: were saying last week about like Marsha P. Johnson not

1176
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: having correct recollection of Stonewall because she was Stonewall. It's

1177
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: like you were literally going on. I was the pit.

1178
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: You were all those experiences and emotions at the time.

1179
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: So it's of course you weren't going to create like

1180
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: you know what, especially you with a high bar for yourself,

1181
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: feels like cohesive salient to art about this thing that

1182
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: you were like enduring.

1183
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 2: That was me squarely in the zone of what I

1184
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 2: here Glass talks about, which is there's that gap between

1185
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: like the case that you have and like what you

1186
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 2: can accomplish as someone who makes things.

1187
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: And so anyway, when I.

1188
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: Remember doing a completely messy version of Sleepwalk, with me

1189
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 3: my first solo show, which eventually years later was on

1190
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: Off Broadway and Nathan Lane presented it, and it was

1191
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: just a really beautiful thing that I was lucky enough

1192
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 3: to do the movie and I remade the movie and

1193
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: it was it was But the first versions of it

1194
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: at UCB were so rough because it was like me

1195
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 3: just being like, here, here's this breakup I had, and like, like,

1196
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: the emotions are so raw and I've been sleepwalking and

1197
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: it's a metaphor for this, Like I was so on

1198
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: the nose. And then I remember like the artistic director

1199
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 3: at the time pulled me aside and he was like, hey,

1200
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 3: I think you should see Dimitri Martin's show, like you

1201
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 3: should do more like jokes.

1202
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: Was this Anthony King who was that I.

1203
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 3: Can say he's a great guy Owned Burke and I

1204
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: feel like we've talked about since He's like you figured

1205
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: it out, yeah, But it was funny like sometimes when

1206
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: you were in the wilderness artistically, like it's not because

1207
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 3: you're not going at the right thing like I was

1208
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: going at like I want to make an emotional show, but.

1209
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: Also I hadn't figured out the joke side of it.

1210
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 3: I haven't figured to your nice thing you were saying

1211
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: about my show is how it's like silences and then

1212
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: jokes and then serious moments and then.

1213
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: Jokes like I didn't figured that out yet, Sure's I'm

1214
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: also like, I'm really feeling very seen by you talking

1215
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: about like and like true false true false true false,

1216
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: and then it ends on a false or true, like

1217
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: my special the one I've done ends on a false,

1218
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: and I think it's and I'm so happy about it. Yeah,

1219
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: that being said, like, I do think that that's one

1220
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: extension of myself and I want so badly to say

1221
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: something real and true about myself, but it's the hardest

1222
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: thing to do. I think that's why you had strife

1223
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: with it all those years ago, doing that, because you

1224
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: were deeply trying to say something true about yourself, which

1225
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: is fucking hard, especially when you're at like a comedy festival,

1226
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: but yet also tasked with like this thing of like

1227
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: this is a solo show, an opportunity that you're being given, right,

1228
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: And it's like, I think we all want to be poignant,

1229
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: but it doesn't always happen. Right. If there's a question

1230
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: here that I'm saying is it's like how uncomfortable is

1231
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: your process very uncomfortable. Yeah, like like every step of

1232
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: the way.

1233
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 3: Like some nights I'm on stage and I'm like, like,

1234
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: there's that moment in the show where I go, I

1235
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: didn't have a sex talk when I was a kid,

1236
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: but when I was twelve, I had hard nipples.

1237
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and suddenly you're exposed out there with your hard

1238
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: nipples again.

1239
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I go, exactly right, And so I go,

1240
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: I tell my dad because I thought I was a

1241
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: hypochondriac as a kid, and so I tell my dad

1242
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: like I think I have cancer.

1243
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: Right, He's like, take your shirt off. We're in like

1244
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: my living room. It's like a truth, completely true story.

1245
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: What's weird, Actually, I'll tell you the very I'll tell

1246
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 3: you the variation on it is like I had to

1247
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: take this part out. It wasn't in the living room,

1248
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 3: it was in his bedroom. But it was so weird

1249
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 3: because the audience was reading. It's like always got to

1250
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: get les. Yeah right, you had to walk them away

1251
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 3: from the right I got. So he was like, take

1252
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 3: your shirt off in the living room, take me shut

1253
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: off and he felt my hard, hard nipples and I

1254
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 3: go and I go, and it was nice, you know,

1255
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of physical affection the family.

1256
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: You were being reassured by a doctor and your father.

1257
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 3: So the first few times, exactly the first few times

1258
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 3: I said it, first forty times I said it, I

1259
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 3: was just like, this is so uncomfortable.

1260
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1261
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: I even had people like in my inner circle creatively

1262
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 3: be like they got the nipples part, because you do

1263
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 3: get that sometimes where even people who are close to

1264
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 3: what your process is or like I think the audience

1265
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: is not here for that.

1266
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: But then you got sometimes you just gotta be like, no,

1267
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: this is like.

1268
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: This has happened, because fully happened is like part of

1269
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 3: the story I'm telling.

1270
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 2: But what you're saying with like sleepwalk with me like

1271
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: you were you were in the wilderness. It's like, well,

1272
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: process in general for anybody is just ay a wilderness.

1273
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm the movie I'm writing right now in

1274
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: the wilderness. Great. Yeah, it's all part of it. Yeah.

1275
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: I think something too, And I think I often when

1276
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: we have like music artists in this chair too, this

1277
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: question comes up, and also with reality stars or anyone

1278
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: that's like exposing the part of themselves, which is obviously

1279
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: anyone in that chair probably is. I don't think I

1280
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: ever really understood the stakes of what happens when you

1281
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: involve a depiction of someone else in your life, and

1282
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: that is what trips me up sometimes. It is really

1283
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: hard for me to think if I say this thing

1284
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: about myself, I'm saying this thing about someone else, and

1285
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: I feel like that's unfortunately if you're someone that wants

1286
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: to create work and art, like, it's probably the ugly stuff,

1287
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's not just outly

1288
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: stuff about you, it's ugly stuff about people you probably

1289
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: care about or don't ever want to talk to you again.

1290
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: So it's like it's never someone in the middle, you

1291
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like I either really care

1292
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: about this person and therefore they're worthwhile including or this

1293
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: person but even believe.

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Speaker 3: Is that Like I had people in my life come

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Speaker 3: up to me and be like I'm the character and

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Speaker 3: don't think twice.

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Speaker 1: Who's the rich girl? Like yeah, No, I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: you're the gilly.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes they wrong, they're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it guess wrong.

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Speaker 3: My parents saw Sleepwalk with Me the movie Yeah and

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Speaker 3: Carol Canon James Redhorn as my parents say these lines

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 3: that literally my parents said in real life, and my

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01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: and I was worried about my parents seeing it, and

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Speaker 3: they came out of the movie and they go, they're

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Speaker 3: nothing like us.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm somehow like we can't even see ourselves. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you never can. Yeah, only you have the real bibliography

1309
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: on your experiences with them because you saw it. They

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Speaker 1: didn't see it. They were it right.

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Speaker 2: Right, But either like someone comes up to you and

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01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: like validates or like I don't know, like entrenches those

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01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: things even more where you were like, oh, I like

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Speaker 2: had it was a huge decision to include you in

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Speaker 2: some way in this like depiction of reality, or it's

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Speaker 2: your parents being like it wasn't that was enough. It's

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01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: like it's it's it's like you can't really even win

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01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: with that there. It never goes the way you want

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Speaker 2: it to.

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Speaker 1: You guys have a.

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Speaker 3: Lucky thing, I think, which is your close friends and

1322
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 3: you have like a creative partnership with this show.

1323
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: I think is so lovely because you get to.

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01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: Share that people like I love the show, like everyone,

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01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 3: like I know tons of people love the show. It's

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01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 3: like you guys get that together, which I think is

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01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: not less lonely. I think we're very fortunate and being

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Speaker 3: a lone wolf I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: You really didn't do it alone? What do you mean?

1330
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Like like I couldn't.

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01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't have my own podcast where I was just

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01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: kind of riffing on culture and then commenting.

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Speaker 1: On things and then like.

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Speaker 2: Like I like you're always my gut check in terms

1335
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 2: of like do I share this little anecdote.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's it's kind of nice to like it.

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01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: It's it's really interesting because because we're also so close

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01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: like that we we have this, we protect the same

1339
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: things pretty much. But also like in terms of like

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Speaker 1: the sharing of it all, like you know what I mean,

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01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: Like it's also like you can never I can, we

1342
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: can never give everything about like about everything. But you

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01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is it's like it's that's I

1344
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: think that's like why they don't think twice of it all.

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01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: It just recalls such a specific era that like it's

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a trumpa of course today, but I

1347
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: think that's why I love it now.

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01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, like I wanted to live your life like I

1349
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: when I was at Georgetown, I was like saying to

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Speaker 3: my parents, I want to transfer to n y U

1351
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 3: and be a theater huh, and they're like, no, you

1352
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 3: know when.

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Speaker 2: I got all you got a full net? Well good,

1354
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's good.

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01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: Everyone wanted to be someone else exact literally still does.

1356
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: But I remember, like I was in school at M

1357
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: y U and I wanted to be doing something else.

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: Everyone's always like, I'm sure you because I was pre mad.

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: Of course I was, but I was doing improv, you

1360
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I wanted to be something else.

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Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I wanted to be like

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Speaker 1: I would. I would be like I want to go

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01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: to Boston an audition for commercials? Yeah, like fuck, no,

1364
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: Boston audition for what the commercial auditioning is that you

1365
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: don't know what the fuck is. It's like, he looks

1366
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: at the camera and half smirks. It's like, that's the audition.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go into rooms and do bite and

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01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: smile exactly, smile smile. Have you ever done a Biden smile? No,

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01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: I've never done. You want to see a stip and smile?

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01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? And that was probably too big skill can be noted,

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Speaker 1: is that that was something else? Perfectly? Did you ever

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01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: book a commercial? I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 3: I think I was a spokesperson for like a cable

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01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 3: and internet company in the South for a while.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah they're not. I don't love it. I

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: don't love it. I don't love it. I kind of

1378
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,959
Speaker 1: wish you didn't. So he has fine, it's fine. Straight

1379
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: up commercial. I never did a straight up commercial.

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Speaker 2: I went to one commercial audition because like someone at

1381
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 2: ECB was like, yeah, I'm going, I'm going on this

1382
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: thing if you want to come, And it was so humiliating.

1383
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: It was really impossible to leave feeling good. And you've become.

1384
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: Straight and I've become straight, and I never thought that happened.

1385
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: But Jordan Neardina texted me last night just crying, laughing

1386
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 3: at the boat inside.

1387
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 1: It's the only It's the only one I can barely watch.

1388
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: For some reason. When I watched him make up with women,

1389
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: I have I have an outrage. Why are you? I

1390
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: don't like it? I want you.

1391
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: A game that gets me is her showing up at

1392
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 3: your place and you're playing video games two in the morning.

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01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: It's so well, by the way, that's I'm then hiding

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01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: in the last cool threes. So sure, and honestly it is.

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01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: It is my favorite sketch because it's clearly it's it's

1396
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: like but it's just like we were watching it. We

1397
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: were in his dressing room for the finale, and you

1398
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: were watching it with us in the room.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to say, I want to surprise Matt with

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 3: the lostchol Trees to sure.

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to see it so fun. And then he

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01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: comes in making out with sorry, Check's notes, Scarlet Johansen

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01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 1: and I just go like, I scream like it's a

1404
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 1: horror movie. I'm like, I can't believe it. Like maybe it's.

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01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 3: Because Colch is gonna have a twenty twenty five because

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 3: it's Lost Culture Awards too. That's right, So it's in

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01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: that sketch it's Lost Culture Award.

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01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be huge. Yeah, I mean we're we're putting

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: it together now and it's gonna be it's gonna be something.

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Speaker 1: Culture is Award. You campaign huge. I'm gonna campaign. What

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: can I do?

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Speaker 3: What can I do to campaign? Did you guys have

1413
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: a strategy? Hen strategize with me. We can strate yet

1414
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 3: strategy to do a step one Best dat Award. I'm

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Speaker 3: a brainstorming category was a Daddy Award and the Father Award.

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Speaker 3: Daddy word Father Award and the Daddy Award was won

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Speaker 3: by Pedro Mascal.

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Speaker 2: The Father Award was uh who who won the father

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01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: Award last year?

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01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: And he wasn't Seth Myers. It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you have to campaign necessary. I think

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01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: being on this episode of campaign like you're absolutely top

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: of mind with special and with the listeners being and

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Speaker 2: then you're in the mix of y Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like this was an amazing six

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Speaker 1: straight man to have.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is this straight mail. Yes, straight is huge.

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Speaker 2: It's the deep honor. It's six. It's not eight. Yeah,

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01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 2: it's not eight. It's six or seven. And we're not listening.

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01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 2: We don't want to make a big thing out of this,

1431
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: but but it's a big dealer.

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01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: Gays, do you feel like gays come up to you

1433
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: on the street they're like, hey girl. I think I

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01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 1: get a lot of gays impression.

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Speaker 3: I think, like the thing that's hilarious about my audience

1436
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: is sometimes when people come up to me there and

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: it's like it's like some like para shaped middle aged

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 3: ogre dad.

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01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: It's just like I totally relate to everything. He's like,

1440
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: come on, I want that. I love the dad.

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01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 3: I know, but sometimes wouldn't it be great if someone

1442
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: came up to you and they're so hot? Like I

1443
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: totally relate to everything you say. It's just like my

1444
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: pilates class. That's why we have the Kyles. Now we

1445
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 3: have we have a new subsect of a fan community

1446
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: called the Kyles. And sometimes the Kyle will come up

1447
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 3: and I just can't believe that they almost drop their

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01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 3: weight to the gym.

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: They laughed so hard exactly, which is what they say.

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01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: They say sometimes, so you should, you should come up

1451
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: with your own buckets of of your fans like like

1452
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 2: like like really visualize the person, give them a name

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01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: and then and then you will start to see them.

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Speaker 1: But you know what it is. It is Katie. You

1455
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: have a ton of Katies. Yes, yeah, Katie's is twenty

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01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: eight year old twenty eight to thirty five year old

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Speaker 1: communications major from the Midwest name Katie. They're all named Katie. Okay,

1458
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: so asking them their names.

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Speaker 3: So I'm most proud of with my audience is I

1460
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 3: always say like it's age twelve through one hundred and twelve.

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01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 3: Like when I see THEE I was gonna say, you

1462
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 3: are really for a quadrant. Whereas we are people who

1463
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: are constantly approached by men and go, my girlfriend loves you,

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01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: which is so sweet. But also it's never like I'm

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 3: a fan, which which is okay.

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01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: You know what, though, a lot of them, I've been

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: noticing because they're they're excited to initiate the conversation because

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01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: their girlfriends are nervous, and but they come up and

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01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: they initiate the conversation, and I can tell it gets

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Speaker 1: them laid. So they're so excited, and that I think

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Speaker 1: will make them listen. Yeah, because I think, and you know,

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: some of them they want to be shy about how

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01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: much they know, because, as I said, masculinity is hard

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01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: to deal with when you're still I guess, like you know,

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: when it's all ahead of you still. I'm just saying,

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 1: don't be shy, boys, It's okay to like lost culch.

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01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: It's okay, that's right. Look, luc who's here.

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 3: You know who's great at A great straight male who

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 3: will all often say how much he loves the show,

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01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 3: John ham will Steven, writer of Bonus Straight but sometimes

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01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 3: with August right, that's a real ally.

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Speaker 1: We love you. Well, okay, it's time for I don't

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01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: think something we're gonna go first, did you type it out?

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01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: So we wing in here? I have something that you know,

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 1: I didn't realize was a thing until last night. I

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01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: was at dinner and I was made aware. And this

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01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: is rock my world. I can't wait to go after

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: restaurant culture here. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think

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Speaker 1: so many as time starts now, I don't think so honey.

1490
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: When mocktails are almost as expensive or as expensive as cocktails,

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: I am not even a part of the sober community.

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,799
Speaker 1: And I am outraged on behalf of the sober community

1493
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 1: because let me tell you what the expensive part of

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: a cocktail is the alcohol. So why for grenadine, orange juice?

1495
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: Bitterers maybe and like a little bit of soda water?

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: Am I paying twelve dollars? I don't think it's fair.

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01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. I also want to directly

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: say where this is happening, which is where I have

1499
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,799
Speaker 1: my new home, Lower Manhattan. I don't think so honey.

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01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: This is a lot of you guys. I'm telling you,

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01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: you know a rock you had a fourteen dollars mocktail,

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01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 1: and I don't care how big the orange is. I

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01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: know because I'll tell you, what's only a couple bucks

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01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: in an orange? A whole thing. So I don't care

1505
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: that the slice is that big. Yes, you made it

1506
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: look expensive. That's so different than being expensive. I mean,

1507
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: for example, I could walk in here wearing a white suit.

1508
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: I'm not Zendea or Anasy. At the medgala, they cost

1509
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: a million dollars. I cast six. I don't think so

1510
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: harm and that's women. You are more than six dollars. Yeah,

1511
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: but you know what, though, not not really, And I'm

1512
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: saying that like these these cocktails in Monck's infuriating. It's infuriating.

1513
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:30,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I feel like they are maybe offsetting

1514
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 2: that by like no, actually there's no explanation.

1515
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm only and you know what. It's like, It's like,

1516
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. The alcoholics don't miss paying for

1517
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 1: the alcohol, right, okay, So it's like they might miss

1518
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: the alcohol, they can't have it. They're not missing the prices.

1519
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: Is not like, oh, you know what, I really miss

1520
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: hitting it hard and paying nine dollars for a Heineken.

1521
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,720
Speaker 1: You know what would be great nine bucks for a

1522
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,639
Speaker 1: Heineken zero, which is essentially piss.

1523
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 3: They should be like, here's an orange juice and an edible.

1524
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 3: It's fifteen dollars dollars. Yeah, really good ideas.

1525
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 1: Give you something else, yeah yeah, or it's but you

1526
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: know what it's like, what would that even be? I mean,

1527
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's like they also, I guess you know

1528
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: what they try to get away with. They're using the

1529
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: nice glass wear too. Yeah, but you don't kid for that. No no, no,

1530
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: no no no, that's not part of the experience. Or

1531
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: you get to keep it. You get to keep it

1532
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: like a souvenir glass. Yeah, yeah, okay. I used to

1533
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: be big into souveneur glass culture. And then I'll tell

1534
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: you what. You have a lot of huge cups you

1535
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: never drink out of. Yeah, because that's really what I

1536
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: a on a shelf. Maroon mug. That's totally that. That's

1537
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: really good.

1538
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: But wait, I want to just talk Maru mag and

1539
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 2: you're talking about LA like you always struck me as

1540
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: pure New York but I am, I am. But you

1541
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 2: do have this this really good world and worldliness about

1542
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 2: Los Angeles.

1543
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: I just like been you know, I've been in show

1544
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 3: business for like what twenty three years, and so you

1545
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 3: just you know, where go back and forth and and

1546
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 3: you know, I have my spots.

1547
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: I like those Felas Marou. I mean I have places

1548
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: I really like aspirational. Yeah yeah, despirational it is.

1549
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 3: But you are in New York, Okay, Yeah, No, I'm

1550
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 3: through and through New York. I can't imagine living anywhere else.

1551
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 3: I saw this Adam Got Next Solo show the other day,

1552
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 3: and he has this beautiful piece where he talks about

1553
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 3: how his favorite place on the planet is Central Park

1554
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 3: because it's just this place where everyone is in like

1555
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 3: a social pact to be like, we're gonna come to

1556
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 3: this place that's completely manufactured and completely fake, but there's

1557
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 3: beautiful trees and beautiful statues and everyone. There's no premium

1558
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: pricing for a different part of the park. We're all

1559
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 3: just at the goddamn Central.

1560
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: Park and it's great. It's like that I love New York.

1561
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 3: It's like it's like and I have frustrations with it,

1562
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 3: of course, but also you know, look, we're all in it.

1563
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: It's so funny coming back to New York and being

1564
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: like a New Yorker again too, because the first thing

1565
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 1: that happens is you start to be real opinionated about

1566
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: New York. Ship. I am ready to crack skulls about

1567
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: the subway by the way, like I'll get up my

1568
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: one time, I'll get political. I can't believe Cuomo is

1569
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: this far ahead. It's fucking crazy. It's fucking in even

1570
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 1: following that race? Is he ahead? Oh sixty forty? Oh

1571
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: really yeah?

1572
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 2: But like I think it's just it's just name recognition.

1573
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: Is what's kind of it's name recognition.

1574
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: I've got, I've got I've got a frivolous one frivilla. Yeah,

1575
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: maybe that's a good dragon.

1576
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 3: That's a great technically, No, this is what I wanted

1577
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,680
Speaker 3: to say, the only good dragon that I've come up with.

1578
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: And this is what I wanted to say, the most

1579
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: annoying sentence in the world. This is what I wanted

1580
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: to say. At the end of my Criterion Closet video.

1581
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: My drag name would be Janis Films. Okay, oh, Janie Films.

1582
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: I just opened my calculator instead of my timer ten

1583
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 1: million I want or like I just added five million,

1584
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: five million.

1585
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: You were just brainswimming what Kevin Hart makes movie seven figure?

1586
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 3: It was like, it's probably this.

1587
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: This is Bowen Yang's don't think of honey, his time

1588
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Do you guys

1589
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about? Plastic hooks on gift bags

1590
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 2: that you purchase at the gift store. You buy a

1591
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 2: little paper gift bag and there's a plastic thing to

1592
01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: make it hook. You cannot take that off, even with

1593
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: all the gorilla's strength in the world, even when there's

1594
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: a perforated little thing there that mocks you because you

1595
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: try to tear it off, it's not coming off. Now,

1596
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 2: you got to get a damn pair of scissors, Like

1597
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: I have the time in ninety second to find scissors

1598
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: to trim off this little plastic hook thing so that

1599
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: I can actually make it presentable to you, so that

1600
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: you don't receive my gift and see the plastic cook

1601
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: and the first thought you have is of me sliding

1602
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: it off a.

1603
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: Little paper source.

1604
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 2: Please find a better way to hang gift bags, maybe

1605
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 2: I don't know, by these string handles that are already

1606
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 2: on them. Rather than put a useless single use plastic,

1607
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: might I add element to these things?

1608
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: And that's one minute? Wow? Really clean? Oh my god?

1609
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know what I'm talking

1610
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: We do. I don't. I didn't even know. I didn't

1611
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: know that they were four hanging. Really I kind of

1612
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: thought it was one of those just annoying things about

1613
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: like there's no classic.

1614
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 3: Single used plastic sneak attack because it doesn't even seem

1615
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 3: like it's part of it.

1616
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: No, it's like that thing is going to go in

1617
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 1: a landfill for it.

1618
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's never it's it's or it'll go to our brains.

1619
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, you know, what's also crazy when

1620
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: you go to CVS and get a receipt like just

1621
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 2: talk just crazy to talk about how much how much

1622
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 2: room it takes off or like how much you don't

1623
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: need it. It's like those receipts are still it's crazy,

1624
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 2: and I'm.

1625
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 1: Like, I'm just gonna throw this out. And they don't

1626
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: even give you the option to have the receipts. And

1627
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: I feel like with these things, it's like what is

1628
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: the what is it?

1629
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: It's weird, Like I think in our lifetime it has

1630
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 3: been this thing where we're like we're going to recycle,

1631
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 3: We're going to save the planet to like the planets fucked.

1632
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not trying, And it's such a bummer. I've

1633
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: never been angrier than I feel comfortable saying this. A

1634
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: few years ago, we were on Fire Island and a

1635
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: friend of ours had a new boyfriend and this, and

1636
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: he walks back to us. We're sitting at the canteen

1637
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: and he comes back and he goes the gaze at

1638
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: the at the at the the docks were so annoying.

1639
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 1: Guess what just happened? And he goes what he goes,

1640
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: I threw my plastic cup in the bay and they

1641
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: yelled at me like we were like, excuse me, excuse me.

1642
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 1: And the guy goes, yeah, like I was done with

1643
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: my drink and I threw my plastic cup in the

1644
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: bay and they all yelled at me. It's like, okay,

1645
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,760
Speaker 1: the planet is dying already. And then our friend goes, yeah,

1646
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? And I had to walk away. I

1647
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: was like, I know love is blind, I know, dick

1648
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: feel good and whole. But no, they did break up.

1649
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 1: Thank god, my god.

1650
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 3: That was That was a moment where I had check

1651
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 3: my respect for someone proudly proudly being a litter bug

1652
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 3: is nuts.

1653
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 1: I hate littering. It drives me nuts. And also like,

1654
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: you know there's the fish in there, the fish. You

1655
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: know that, you know there's a fishing well, it's what

1656
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: he said. They're gonna die anyway. Oh God, okay kill

1657
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 1: me then I'm on my way out at some point

1658
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,520
Speaker 1: that that is actually textbook.

1659
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to get a little academic here. This is

1660
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: n YU maybe, and I think they taught this at

1661
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 2: Georgetown as well, metabolic rift theory, where it's it's the

1662
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 2: human disconnect between the disconnect between between man and nature,

1663
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 2: and it makes use. It makes it so that you

1664
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: don't understand that this came from something and that you

1665
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 2: throwing it at the window or throwing it into the

1666
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 2: water is actually the reason why you are broken as

1667
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 2: a person and why literally the phrase touch grass is

1668
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: important because you need to connect to that anyway. Microbiglia,

1669
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 2: you have a written I don't think so, honey, and

1670
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: we are very and there's a reason for this.

1671
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: See it at the end.

1672
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: You'll see because it could have been on your phone,

1673
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: is micro Bigles, I don't think so many and as

1674
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 2: time starts now.

1675
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. Hating on people who try hard, Literally,

1676
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: everyone good at anything tries hard, you know, tries hard?

1677
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,440
Speaker 1: Tailor you who else? Beyonce? You know who else? Reygun

1678
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: the breakdanswer, I'm.

1679
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 3: More suspicious of people who don't try hard, or people

1680
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 3: who lie and say they're not trying hard when they are.

1681
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 3: If someone does something amazing and they say it was easy,

1682
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 3: be suspicious. Not only are they lying about it, they

1683
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 3: also committed crime. Remember when Anne Hathaway and James Franco

1684
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 3: bombed so hard hosting the OS.

1685
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: James Franco just left.

1686
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 3: He's a loser and I'm hashtag team anne Hathaway, your hand, Hathaway.

1687
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: You know who else tries hard?

1688
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 3: Fontine and lay mish Cy Andrea Saxony.

1689
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: Where's God working? From? Her? Intofreest is hard?

1690
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 3: She has to show up to work every day, sacrificing

1691
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 3: a relationship with Adrian Gray is character Nate, who I

1692
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 3: think is a chef but never has to go to

1693
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 3: work for the reason that's never explained. I'm reaching the

1694
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 3: end of my minute, but I want you to know

1695
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 3: this is my fifth draft of this.

1696
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm telling you, because if you're a

1697
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 1: fellow try hard, you deserve to know. Yeah, that's one minute,

1698
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: really good, and you know what, You're right? And I

1699
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: never liked Nate and Devilworth. I never liked this.

1700
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Outrageous, character outrageous. And this is the thing,

1701
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 2: this is I'm gonna misquote Dorian Gray. But the people

1702
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 2: who are not in the arena don't know the pleasures

1703
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 2: of don't don't know the triumphs, and so therefore how

1704
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: could they know anything about defeat or something like.

1705
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: That, you know what it is? Yes? And also it's

1706
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: just like it's like you talking about your hard nipples

1707
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: on stage or having strife, emotional strife about being vulnerable.

1708
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,360
Speaker 1: It's like it's because you know it's going to take

1709
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: work to get there, and then you are exposed. And

1710
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: it's like it's so easy for people to be like

1711
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: fuck her about someone who tried. I beIN guess they're trying.

1712
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: I know. It's like I'm so over that.

1713
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 3: It also takes so much effort to hate on people.

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01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah you got to create a log in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you know there's a workaholic Charlie XCX literally noted

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01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: admitted workaholic always has to work. And it's just like

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Speaker 1: maybe that can help, like people stop being such assholes.

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01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: It's like someone who's effortless and cool looking is working

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01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: to be that, you know what I mean? Like I

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01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 1: can't stand that because I am a try hard and

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01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: type a millennial, and it's like for that to be uncool,

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01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: That was a wonderful, wonderful I don't think so, honey.

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Speaker 2: Draft why I do have to ask why why print

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Speaker 2: it printed?

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Speaker 3: Just because it's like draft over draft over draft, And

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Speaker 3: then I like the paper. It's like a touch draft thing.

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01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 3: I like, that's good. You're in a way touching tree. Yeah,

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01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm touching tree.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to. I wanted to get it right.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm a huge fan of the segment and I

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: just wanted to lay something down that felt that felt

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Speaker 3: true to me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That was really that. I feel like we

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01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: we're taking it back the narrative. I really did take

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01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: it because the thing about people that don't try hard

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01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 1: having the narrative for a second, they didn't work hard

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01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: enough to keep the narrative. So now it's just like

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01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: it's gone. Yeah, you know, power can be wrestled very

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01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: easily from those who wieled power carelessly and thoughtlessly. What

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Speaker 1: is that from? That actually was our guest last week, Tourmaline.

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01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: Tourmaline from an incredible biography on Marsha P. Johnson and

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01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: that was the educational moment of our episode.

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Speaker 3: Also, if we try harder, maybe we'll win the next election. Interesting,

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01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 3: I think maybe we need hard enough. Yeah, I think

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01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 3: it's part of it. That's probably part of it. It's

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01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 3: in the mix, in the.

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Speaker 1: Mix, it's I think I think it's in the mix.

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: Do you think AOC will win the presidency. I think

1750
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 1: it's possible. AOC's fire could be pretty cool.

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01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 3: She has a message that hits. I also think Budage

1752
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: is great. I mean it might be controversial.

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01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 1: I love him. Yeah, I don't think the country.

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01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes people oh whatever, they think he's too moderate, this, that, whatever.

1755
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 3: They think he's trying too hard, they think he's trying

1756
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 3: too hard. But I like how he mixes it up

1757
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 3: on Fox stuff like that. I know, like he's willing

1758
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 3: to he's willing to keep it, willing to go there.

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01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 3: And so he's AOC by the way, and Bernie and

1760
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 3: Bertie and Bernie's obviously kind of a legend. But like, yeah,

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01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 3: I think both of those people are phenomenal.

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01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is interesting. They can catch a wave. Yeah,

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01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 1: I think they are catching waves. It's just like I think,

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01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: after everything that's gone on. It's like, I don't want

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01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: to be that person that's like, oh, I'm nervous to

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01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: put up a gay guy or I'm nervous to put

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01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: up a young woman. Yeah, I agree, you can't be

1768
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: the nervous person. I refuse to be. But it's like

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01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: there's truly people out there who just solely think I'm

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01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: a lost because she's a black woman or black Indian woman.

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01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: And it's just like, I feel like we need to

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01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that's why she lost. And I do

1773
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: think we need to stop saying that because if that's

1774
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 1: the ideology that we go down, like we're just gonna

1775
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 1: end up with cuomos forever.

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Speaker 3: I Also, I think if we knew for a year

1777
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: out the whole thing with people googling day of who's running,

1778
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah that's real?

1779
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 1: Is that really real? Millions of people googling who's running.

1780
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 2: And some of us didn't know, okay, and some of

1781
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: us just had to us just like had been remind

1782
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 2: how busy he is.

1783
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: I'm busy. I mean, I don't want to hit him.

1784
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to hit Biden while he's down because

1785
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 3: I'm sympathetic to the hell step.

1786
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: It's like yeah.

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01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of things he could have

1788
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: done for the four years also to safeguard democracy, Like

1789
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 3: there's a.

1790
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 1: Lot, I mean, there's a lot going on. Its pandemic, there's.

1791
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 3: Luck going but still and just introducing Kamala everyone.

1792
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, hey, I don't think he knew she was

1793
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:45,719
Speaker 1: there exactly.

1794
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: I'm I'm one hundred years old. There's this other lady

1795
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 3: who's fandasdig you know. Anyway, go pick up Jake Tapper's book.

1796
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 4: Everybody Episode who, by the way, was shaming people for

1797
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 4: suggesting that there was something wrong maybe not or maybe

1798
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 4: not right with Biden for a while.

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01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 3: And there's a book, right, So anyway, I love that.

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Speaker 3: Love that guy. I love that dude on Jake Tapper.

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01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, love for Jake Tapper's book The Good Life Is

1802
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 2: Odd Netflix made twenty six.

1803
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: Yes, you're gonna love it. We loved it. We loved it.

1804
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just the greatest. You really are such

1805
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: you're one of the pre eminent storytellers. You're just so

1806
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: good up there. You feel so safe when you watch you.

1807
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: You always have and you're getting better to blind you.

1808
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,640
Speaker 1: I love you, guys so much. This is such an

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01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: honor to be here.

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01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 3: If I could only be on one podcast, it would

1811
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 3: be this and this whole thing. But this hasn't been

1812
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: so beautiful for me because I love bonding. Also on

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Speaker 3: all of these movies. I know it's like so deep

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01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 3: to me. All these movies are so deep to me.

1815
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremy mcglare is gonna be a good watch for

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Speaker 1: you later.

1817
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't wait. Thank you for bringing that in.

1818
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 3: And we love you very much.

1819
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: And there is love and there is friendship, and we're

1820
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: all in New York now, so let's let's hand yes

1821
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 2: when return return.

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01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: When Bowen wrote an email on me about my special

1823
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: last night, it made me covel and I wrote about

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01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 3: my journal.

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01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: Oh email that we were all on. I'm sorry I

1826
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: didn't email. I wanted it this morning. Yeah, it's okay,

1827
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: I'll send you an email. Okay, I'll write about my

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01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: gerald tonight. We never ever sad of the song. I

1829
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: wish I was off booked to Secret Garden. I know.

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01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 4: Anna to see me because I don't thing the day

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01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 4: out understand where everything's.

1832
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: Made to be broke. I just want you to know why,

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01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 1: I Drews want you to know how the song ends.

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01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:47,040
Speaker 1: I Drews watch you know. Yeah, It's so good. Hi,

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01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 1: You're funny.

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Speaker 2: Last Culturesis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: Players and Then I Heart Radio.

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01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yeg,

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01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: executive produced by Anna Hasnier and

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01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: Produced by Becker Ramos, edited mixed by Doug Baby and

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01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: Nikola Board and our music is by Henry Murski