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Speaker 1: make something and right now the brother that you gut
Speaker 1: standing in front of us to sit in front of us.
Speaker 1: He had one of the most illuxtrious independent careers ever.
Speaker 1: If you want to look up independence, you want to
Speaker 1: say how you do it after you're leaving the major
Speaker 1: and approaching this, I would recommend you guys go look
Speaker 1: at this brother's career. He's a part of a legendary
Speaker 1: group that they recently got together and it's on one
Speaker 1: of the best albums of the whole Goddamny. It's the
Speaker 1: best thing about He is a legend not only in
Speaker 1: Queens but New York City, but the world. He is
Speaker 1: the motherfucking innovator. He is a person that I look
Speaker 1: up and I respect. And in case your motherfucker's don't
Speaker 1: know who I'm talking about, we're talking about the legendary, cool,
Speaker 1: motherfucking mega called Mega. The crazy shit is I'm just
Speaker 1: me and Cam having spoken or like hung out like
Speaker 1: fifteen years. So the crazy ship is I'm telling murder
Speaker 1: Mook the other day and I'm like, yo, when you
Speaker 1: look at Cameron's video, his very first video, Horse and Carriage,
Speaker 1: and then you was in there, I forgot that you
Speaker 1: were sitting right next. So the crazy thing is, I'm
Speaker 1: only cameras coat. Just just not pulling this coat, but
Speaker 1: just tell them like, yo, bro, I really was dead
Speaker 1: from the beginning. And one thing that I did I
Speaker 1: overlooked was I wasn't alone. You was then with me, Like, so,
Speaker 1: how did you wind up in the host of carriage video?
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I was always in videos that wow. I
Speaker 1: was like, um, I was always just popping up a video.
Speaker 1: It was cool with a lot of rappers. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't like to go out a lot like now
Speaker 1: that you know me better, you know me, yes, but
Speaker 1: when then you know, it is like when people tell
Speaker 1: me to pull up my pull up. Yes. Yes, So
Speaker 1: I was at the video and if you remember, I'm
Speaker 1: fell in the pool. Oh remember that because I can't swim.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're both there that that. That was
Speaker 1: so dope because, um, a lot of people don't know
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't know that Queens of
Speaker 1: Harm's history. Because queens we get the we get the
Speaker 1: worst slack because we really don't. It seems like we
Speaker 1: really don't get along with each other, like queens within
Speaker 1: each other. You're talking about within each other. It seems
Speaker 1: like like it just doesn't happen. It kind of is true,
Speaker 1: it's kind of true. We'll get into all of that, okay,
Speaker 1: But l A is like that to Philadelphias like that.
Speaker 1: I think that New York. I think the focus because
Speaker 1: we were at a hip hop, it focuses on us
Speaker 1: a little bit more. What do you think? Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: I think uh Now, I think people call it like
Speaker 1: they said, queens be having a lot of conflicts, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like we're as down south, they'll
Speaker 1: have their issues, but they'll make music together. They'll stick
Speaker 1: together together, they make songs together. Whereas Queens. Uh, I
Speaker 1: think Queens is like uh a stubborn burrow because because
Speaker 1: queens had to fight for us respect. Remember back in
Speaker 1: the days, people underestimated queens because of caress. Um you
Speaker 1: didn't hear people from cold queens, and and people underestimated queens,
Speaker 1: so people thought queens was soft, even on Rickey's aland
Speaker 1: back in the day queens. So you know, queens always
Speaker 1: had to fight for us respect. And if parts of
Speaker 1: Queens that are ferocious, Like I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: people get their ass toll off and rockaways because they
Speaker 1: thought it was sweet, like dudes from out of town
Speaker 1: to come out there far rockaways rock. I'm South South Jamaica,
Speaker 1: left right, you know what I'm Queens gets busy, so um,
Speaker 1: I think um a lot of I think queens also, Um,
Speaker 1: Queen's got the most diverse community, so many different people
Speaker 1: in Queens. So it's so big and it's so uh.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't think he Trump is on Queens
Speaker 1: because you can't be from Queens to be racist. I'm sorry, No,
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. But what I'm as far as Trump,
Speaker 1: I just think I don't know what it is about Queens,
Speaker 1: but we definitely Queens definitely be having a lot of
Speaker 1: conflict um even with the murders Maserati Fox got killed
Speaker 1: in Queens. The brother stack bundles chinks to them, Mr Jay,
Speaker 1: And I'm not even thinking hard so Queens, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We gotta do better, we gotta do better. So now
Speaker 1: this album comes out, King's Disease, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I didn't see this record coming. I don't know if
Speaker 1: something was doing that on purpose, but this record comes
Speaker 1: out and I'm not, like I said, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: keep it on Hunt. When I looked at it, I
Speaker 1: was like, this gotta be an old verse, right, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about from all of y'all. So I said this
Speaker 1: must be an old NAS record. But then not only
Speaker 1: was I wrong? No, I sound good together? What was
Speaker 1: that conversation like? Because I know you and as for
Speaker 1: lack of a better term, have a very confusing type
Speaker 1: of relationship, like from the outsiders looking at I think
Speaker 1: that's are looking in um don't share the same peripheral
Speaker 1: because our relationship wasn't confused, and it's just it was
Speaker 1: just us, like we Our relationship is different from any
Speaker 1: of the rappers with conflict because we actually grew up
Speaker 1: together with our families know each other. I've spoken to
Speaker 1: his father before, I've seen his mother thousands of times.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know his brother. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying exactly. God blessed her. She was
Speaker 1: a graceful, classy woman. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I know Jabari before. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: I knew not said he knows Corey. So it's a
Speaker 1: difference between these other beats. So I think it was both.
Speaker 1: It wasn't confused and it was just us. It was
Speaker 1: just an emotional his emotions involved, and I think UM
Speaker 1: time and UM time and understanding could could could rectify
Speaker 1: things if the love is real, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So we both mature men, and you know when we
Speaker 1: want one thing about me as you know, because you
Speaker 1: know me now, I don't gotta speak to you every day,
Speaker 1: but when I speak to you, it's like we were
Speaker 1: speaking every day. And and when we spoke everything it
Speaker 1: feels like we never ever had issues. So let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. So what he called you? Did he
Speaker 1: did he tell you that this is a firm record
Speaker 1: or he just said just send your verse and you
Speaker 1: you didn't really know. It wasn't It wasn't like you
Speaker 1: know how I am. So when we spoke, it wasn't
Speaker 1: about music, because I don't care about the music. I
Speaker 1: even on some real ship. I don't even care about
Speaker 1: the affirm song or any song. It's it's about our friendship.
Speaker 1: Like if we never rap again, the fact that our
Speaker 1: friendship is repaired, that's the most beautiful thing out of
Speaker 1: it all. That's what That's what's great about you. I continue.
Speaker 1: I'll get into that later, but continue. So we spoke,
Speaker 1: We spoke about and I know you mean this because
Speaker 1: I know you and I know you mean this. So
Speaker 1: so we spoke about numerous things before we even got
Speaker 1: to the song, you know what I'm saying. And then um,
Speaker 1: by the time we got to um speaking about doing
Speaker 1: the song, I was with it because um, obviously, because
Speaker 1: we're cool, and because that's what the culture wanted, Like
Speaker 1: people wanted us to make music for so long. I'll
Speaker 1: never realized how bad that the public wanted that. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it until it dropped as well. When it dropped,
Speaker 1: I was like, wall, okay, I continue, so and that's
Speaker 1: that's the crazy ship is I forgot how much I'm
Speaker 1: a fan of the group because honestly, the Firm kind
Speaker 1: of put me on to a certain extent. But I
Speaker 1: forgot how much I was a fan of the group
Speaker 1: when I heard the record, and I just kept rewinding
Speaker 1: because I got a job to do, so I gotta
Speaker 1: be analytical, so I kept me winding, and I was like,
Speaker 1: is that the whole first is that like I'm being
Speaker 1: I'm being a fan. I'm being a fan, so I'm
Speaker 1: looking and when I forget, I don't know if I
Speaker 1: posted it or whatever I did, And I just see
Speaker 1: the fans reaction, how the firm because it was a supergroup.
Speaker 1: It was the very first supergroup to me, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so all right now getting it into that,
Speaker 1: let's get straight into it, because I did act nature
Speaker 1: the other day that he was on the hill and
Speaker 1: I said, I asked to repeat the rhind the reason
Speaker 1: why I asked to repeat the r to beat the
Speaker 1: rynd the heat he had dissed you, because you know
Speaker 1: I was in that session. I know. I never and
Speaker 1: this is the thing that the craziest ship is maca
Speaker 1: just real talk. I never knew why he dissed it.
Speaker 1: I was actually in the session. I went upstay as
Speaker 1: I said that to him. What he was here, I
Speaker 1: wouldnderstand when he came back. That's the reason why I
Speaker 1: asked him was because when they got edited. You remember
Speaker 1: they edited him, and when they got edited, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I never knew where did that come from. So let's
Speaker 1: did you do what? Jack some champagne? Now? Yeah, so listen, Okay,
Speaker 1: before we didn't get to that. Okay, you just said that.
Speaker 1: You asked saying to say what you say? I asked nature,
Speaker 1: why did he do that? Because I thought, this is
Speaker 1: what I thought when I went to the back food
Speaker 1: nahs or somebody gassed him in all our reality, I
Speaker 1: think he just did it on his own. All right,
Speaker 1: let me stop you there, okay, please, you just did.
Speaker 1: He made me proudly this. Now you just did a
Speaker 1: You had a great journalistic moment. Do you realize all
Speaker 1: these years in hip hop, no journalists ever kept it
Speaker 1: a hundred like that? Remember they were people were trying
Speaker 1: to paint pictures of me changing navatives about me. Remember
Speaker 1: mega'sine megasine hater or Mega it's jealous, he just wants
Speaker 1: to shine, or et cetera. He just nature because he's mad.
Speaker 1: You're the first journalist I ever said that that brought
Speaker 1: that out, and and they just said it on your show.
Speaker 1: So I knew, I knew, but but the perception was
Speaker 1: exactly true. It's true. You're right. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when that happened, I was shocked. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: so um, but it is what it is. You know,
Speaker 1: it's oldest, you know. But we have to have your
Speaker 1: side because I just had natures. Okay, so what so
Speaker 1: the thing is this right? I need to know because
Speaker 1: and you said than to me the other day, and
Speaker 1: I had agree with you. You said one thing about me, Nori,
Speaker 1: you knew about who I was on the street prior
Speaker 1: to you knew who I was as a rapper, And
Speaker 1: that's true. I did hear about core Mecca on the
Speaker 1: street prior to me hearing about you as a rapper.
Speaker 1: I heard about you getting busy on the streets. So
Speaker 1: one thing for show, for certain I did not know
Speaker 1: what this was coming from. When I asked Nature that
Speaker 1: I was being totally for real because I didn't know,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't powerful enough to be like take my
Speaker 1: verse or or I don't want to be a bard.
Speaker 1: I wasn't powerful enough. I had to just play my position.
Speaker 1: So you you knowing you and NAS probably having a
Speaker 1: little discrepancies or whatever. You're hearing that nature of this too.
Speaker 1: That stup had to funk you up. Know that started
Speaker 1: the descrepacies. That's what I'm saying, you have now. This
Speaker 1: is before that record. That record started the whole ship.
Speaker 1: I did not notice. I'm really so, I said, you
Speaker 1: just had Yeah, I had that reckon never came now
Speaker 1: I knows this jumble jump, so I didn't know. See,
Speaker 1: I never knew. So when I heard that record, I
Speaker 1: was just mad. I'm thinking everybody's gone at me. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn. I'm like, damn. I thought me and
Speaker 1: nort was cool. Damn. Like you know what saying now,
Speaker 1: I know now thought back that he had a problem
Speaker 1: with you. To know, if you listen, if somebody comes
Speaker 1: out soon called DJ ever called me Pila, You're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I thought me and Meg was cold.
Speaker 1: You might not be You're gonna be like so next
Speaker 1: time you see me, you might be hands't gona be
Speaker 1: that warm. So it's like I was just like wow.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's just shocked me. So um it
Speaker 1: is what it is like that started everything. If that
Speaker 1: record never came out there, there would be no distance.
Speaker 1: I had no reason to dis anybody. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I did not know that. I did not know.
Speaker 1: I sweel have God learned it right now? Let's that's
Speaker 1: one of my favor So the industry really owes me apology.
Speaker 1: Only Corny asogized to you for that. But Mega, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. At that time, Megan was
Speaker 1: like one of the most arrogantess. Dude, explain that to me.
Speaker 1: That's how you came over gross, like whenever I used
Speaker 1: to come around, I'll see you. I just used to
Speaker 1: be like and later on identify it with confidence. I
Speaker 1: was too young to look at that and say that's confidence.
Speaker 1: I was looking like dad. Maybe he's an average between
Speaker 1: confidence and arrogance. Like in like, explain to me what
Speaker 1: made you think? Tell you what the difference is as
Speaker 1: a rock who as a human being pretty much both
Speaker 1: pretty much both because I'm I'm gonna keep you real.
Speaker 1: You was always like a fly, dude. He was always
Speaker 1: like flying in the average person you came and you
Speaker 1: always had to fly polo on and always just and
Speaker 1: I'll just be like and people that was the rule
Speaker 1: about you, Like Megan's an arrogant guy. So that's the
Speaker 1: reason why I think people thought you saw the nature
Speaker 1: beef as opposed to nature because because because because if
Speaker 1: you put you in nature together, a person is gonna
Speaker 1: remember you no dispective, Nat, that's my brother, but they
Speaker 1: person is gonna remember it's something about your or or
Speaker 1: something about your style. And and that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I think it came off. Have you ever heard that
Speaker 1: about yourself? Only from people with that yo, you think
Speaker 1: about this. Nobody in Brooklyn says that. Nobody far away,
Speaker 1: you know, people from all over that New Week hmm,
Speaker 1: if any I mean, if that's the worst people can
Speaker 1: say about me, Wow, if that's the worst actually, because
Speaker 1: that's like they said, Jordan is arrogant, they said Kobe's arrogant.
Speaker 1: I was confident, but at the same time you said
Speaker 1: I wear polar all the time. There's a girl name
Speaker 1: te Teeth from Queen but you probably one day, I'm
Speaker 1: standing on the hill. I got the crazy polo shirting,
Speaker 1: the dopest fun and she was complimenting me on the
Speaker 1: shirt and ain't there And I'm saying, because she's a
Speaker 1: live show to t T shoo confirmness, I took my
Speaker 1: polo shirt off my back and gave it to her.
Speaker 1: So why people don't tell that side of the story.
Speaker 1: Remember Megan Couto While people don't say, oh Megan, remember
Speaker 1: remember that peace mega ha. I was wearing diamonds before
Speaker 1: everybody too, but I never made nobody feel less about it.
Speaker 1: That same Domond penance you see me on it. I
Speaker 1: gave it to Spink when he came home. Same Gucci
Speaker 1: wat to have with the authentic Gucci dimonds. I gave
Speaker 1: that to somebody when they came home. Why people don't
Speaker 1: say that? So the people that said yo, nor you
Speaker 1: know me better than that. I'm a very quiet with you.
Speaker 1: So when you so, when you stay to yourself and
Speaker 1: you yo, people seem more in me than I've seen
Speaker 1: it myself. Because it's like I'm not an outgoing person.
Speaker 1: I'm not the type of person I'm saying, how you doing?
Speaker 1: My name is Mega. I stayed to myself. I'm a
Speaker 1: quiet every time we go out with im. Whar am I?
Speaker 1: I'm in the cut, so you see me in the
Speaker 1: cut and I'm looking a certain way and I'm quiet.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people think I'm staying old fish when when I'm
Speaker 1: really just to myself. Some people say I'm shy. Some
Speaker 1: people just that's pretty pretty much the opposite of arrogance,
Speaker 1: you know what it's like. So if the worst that
Speaker 1: that somebody can say about me is I'm arrogant, I
Speaker 1: must be a hell of a dude. You've never heard
Speaker 1: nobody saying, Meg, it's a snake. You've never felt uncomfortable
Speaker 1: around me. You've never heard nobody say, Mega, jerk me right,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's switch it up a little bit. You
Speaker 1: have the experience to be on folly, to be down
Speaker 1: with Chris, Like, what was your experience with Chris la?
Speaker 1: Chris Lottie was like a big brother that you always
Speaker 1: want to impress, that you always want to try to press.
Speaker 1: He gives you tough love, especially me. Um. It was
Speaker 1: an honor. I learned a lie. I learned about patience
Speaker 1: because I was impatient. I wanted to come out, and
Speaker 1: Chris was teaching me about the game. But during that
Speaker 1: time being on Violator shout out to Dave Bloody, shout
Speaker 1: out to the sky, Dave Scott, I learned how to
Speaker 1: market myself. I was doing stuff to prove mom my
Speaker 1: value or that I'm worthy of this to Chris, I
Speaker 1: was on the shelf. No before I was on the shelf,
Speaker 1: I was on Violator. And the thing a lot of
Speaker 1: young artists got to realize is when you get signed,
Speaker 1: you're an investment. So it's not like, Okay, we sound
Speaker 1: you hot, We're putting you right out. They gotta build
Speaker 1: you up and they gotta figure out how they're gonna
Speaker 1: get their money back. So while I was on Violator,
Speaker 1: I've seen artists doing their thing and I and I
Speaker 1: felt like I was suspended in time because she was
Speaker 1: signed to violated records. Right, Okay, not not enough. So
Speaker 1: also like the conflict that that was happening to me
Speaker 1: when I wasn't with the firm, that slow things up
Speaker 1: because a lot of labels they market you, they piggyback
Speaker 1: off of other things so that that helps with their marketing.
Speaker 1: So that they had changed switch lanes. But I believed
Speaker 1: in myself. I knew what I was. I was capable,
Speaker 1: and at the time, bad Boy dominated hip hop because
Speaker 1: he was supposed to be signed a bad Boy, right,
Speaker 1: I wanted I could have signed to bad I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't say I could have, but Puffy. When I
Speaker 1: Puffy Damn Show, I was in Puffy's office and Puffy
Speaker 1: pretty excited. It was me trying to figure the reason.
Speaker 1: The reason I never went back puffis like, you've just
Speaker 1: come back with some songs out of um because somebody,
Speaker 1: you know there was like people when our circle was
Speaker 1: like don't don't just chill because that's that's gonna affect
Speaker 1: the firm thing. So my loyalty, Yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: loved it. I would have signed a Puffy with no lawyer.
Speaker 1: But Bey was still alive, bro everything. So what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: figure they had my phone, I don't huldup Yo called Mega.
Speaker 1: Now I know, guys, It's okay. Listen, guys, I cut myself,
Speaker 1: Burger's cut me shaving. So this little white thing is
Speaker 1: it's it's a little thing. It's a go ahead. So
Speaker 1: the only reason I never went back to Bad Boys
Speaker 1: because because of my loyalty. I was told not to
Speaker 1: and I didn't. So let me ask you something because
Speaker 1: during that time, it was Steve Stout and it was
Speaker 1: Chris liked you was on the Chris Lady side. Did
Speaker 1: you feel like you ever got caught in between Chris
Speaker 1: lightly and Chris and I'm Steve stout ship because you
Speaker 1: know they had beef on the law. I know that
Speaker 1: I found out out. I didn't really know that. But
Speaker 1: when Steve was on your show, he says something about Chris.
Speaker 1: He just listen. When I went back, I just looked
Speaker 1: at it. Chris, I wasn't taste that was not tasteful. Um,
Speaker 1: and hold on before you say something. I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 1: I owed you, Mike Geronimo and a z apology because
Speaker 1: I still wann't. Let's Steve Stout say whatever he wanted
Speaker 1: to say, but I'm supposed to check him. At that time.
Speaker 1: I wasn't skilled. I wasn't enough to stop and be articulate,
Speaker 1: and I was wanting to iron out me and his
Speaker 1: ship so much that I let that ship go about
Speaker 1: my head. But I always said something that I regret.
Speaker 1: You a Zy and my Gerano should have said something,
Speaker 1: but like I said, but let's not let me get
Speaker 1: back to the original question, because what I found out
Speaker 1: later on in life was Steve and Chris had a
Speaker 1: quiet be they saw each other and they were very cordial,
Speaker 1: very respectful. I ain't threw me off because we from
Speaker 1: we gotta be, We're not with you. Did you ever
Speaker 1: feel like you was caught in between that I was confused?
Speaker 1: I thought they was cool. Yes, but it's like Chris
Speaker 1: wanted to sign me, and then Steve was like at
Speaker 1: one point Stevid like, don't sign the deal. I have
Speaker 1: certain such for you a certain day, Like yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm like all right, So it didn't happen. See
Speaker 1: the things. I'm sorry, I'm going on over the place.
Speaker 1: You were like the number one thing to sign, like
Speaker 1: you would like, for lack of a better turn, had
Speaker 1: the biggest bus. You had the biggest bu the biggest,
Speaker 1: biggest bus. So I know they played politics with you,
Speaker 1: like I know that you remember. You don't remember. I remember.
Speaker 1: I remember. I'm talking to you. I remember almost had
Speaker 1: the penalty deal. Yo, I don't lie. Listen, everybody wanted
Speaker 1: to sign Mecca, Like it was like, I'm glad I
Speaker 1: didn't take the South, Salute to I'm Neil Levine, and
Speaker 1: salute to y'all because I put that work out. We did.
Speaker 1: But um yeah, I had the big bus. I had
Speaker 1: dumb mad labels want in the sign me. Um, I
Speaker 1: just I went with um. I went with the most money,
Speaker 1: which is not the best, not the best thing. You
Speaker 1: want to go with the people that's gonna cater to you.
Speaker 1: So signed as the depth Jam was like signing to them,
Speaker 1: to the Yankees, like you might not. So it was
Speaker 1: like I signed there because I grew up on for
Speaker 1: l L and Slick Wreck and Public Enemy. I signed
Speaker 1: it for vis. This was Leo, like Kevin Lows came
Speaker 1: a little after, but um yeah, Leo was there. Um
Speaker 1: I learned a lot from Leo. People say a lot
Speaker 1: of things about Leo, but I'm gonna tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite CEO. I learned a lot
Speaker 1: from Leo, So I can't front of that man from
Speaker 1: him too. So now let's get straight to it. So
Speaker 1: Steve Stout, I wanted to. I wanted to understand what
Speaker 1: he was doing. Steve Stout came on here and he
Speaker 1: said why because now I shouted out Mega, he was
Speaker 1: supposed to just be on Mr Say and God bless Steve,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to see them. Like, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know my wife. I'm about to say,
Speaker 1: people want some eighth the only but a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know. And I'm not saying this because you're here.
Speaker 1: I say this when you're not here. One of the biggest,
Speaker 1: one of the illest mcs coming out of Queens was you.
Speaker 1: Probably before I heard the Naas and now that I've
Speaker 1: talked about the street Ship, I heard of you. They
Speaker 1: was always saying there's a dude from a Queensbridge called Mega.
Speaker 1: He's the next Guy's the next guy. So when I
Speaker 1: did rip back and I heard Stop say that, it
Speaker 1: didn't disturb me because he's from Queens so he had
Speaker 1: to hear the same rumor as I heard. Maybe not,
Speaker 1: maybe not because he's from a different part of Queens
Speaker 1: and he's yeah, he he didn't do his research and
Speaker 1: and and sometimes when you're successful like he is, you
Speaker 1: only hear what you want to hear. That's so the
Speaker 1: way I've seen it. He didn't believe in me, and
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't do his research enough because um,
Speaker 1: like you said before I went to jail. I was
Speaker 1: buzzing me before I heard about Nash. And there was
Speaker 1: a time when um, Molly Marl was like Dr Dre
Speaker 1: of the East Coast. You know what I'm saying. He
Speaker 1: just brought else career back in the early nine He's
Speaker 1: working with TLC and this one and that were big
Speaker 1: people and he wasn't. He was busy, so like there
Speaker 1: was no artist in Queery that called his attention, so
Speaker 1: he heard everybody. So I was on the street still
Speaker 1: and I think I told you before. There's a woman
Speaker 1: named Mary Stevens from Queensbridge and she uh got word
Speaker 1: to somebody Hank Hank Carter who knew Molly, and she
Speaker 1: was like, I want Marlon to hear his music because
Speaker 1: this guy is good. You know you just called Morty
Speaker 1: Mam Mally Molly. Yeah, I like that. So Molly got winded.
Speaker 1: One of my joints. I had a song called Sex, Drugs,
Speaker 1: Bitches of Money and Molly heard it and next thing
Speaker 1: you know, I got the call that it was like,
Speaker 1: Molly want you t j Ellis was my producer at first.
Speaker 1: So me and Ellis is going to Molly Mar's house
Speaker 1: recording and the unfortunates nas rhyming at that time, not now. Um. Actually, um,
Speaker 1: this is history right now when um LoVa the Barbecuelva
Speaker 1: the barbecue and all that was was out already wow. Um,
Speaker 1: but I still was buzzing now now just doing this
Speaker 1: thing too. But I was buzzing. And the funny thing
Speaker 1: is call the case. Yeah, I called the case. But
Speaker 1: the funny thing is, um, even when um, when I
Speaker 1: was playing my ship, I always, even as an artist,
Speaker 1: I always try to look out for people that was
Speaker 1: my people. Like we went to Brooklyn Queen's Day, remember
Speaker 1: first met Park and we got on the stage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like here I was performing. I feel like
Speaker 1: he had a bucket on Wack and Ellie I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I know tras Is Roman and YEAHMI said give Mega
Speaker 1: to mike. YEAHMI jumped on the stage. Yeah, And and
Speaker 1: got the mike and I jumped on the stage and
Speaker 1: I said it was NICs. Now. I jumped on the
Speaker 1: stage and I did my verse from a song called
Speaker 1: set It Off that was one one of the Poets albums.
Speaker 1: And um, now I did this verse from lobb Of
Speaker 1: to Barbecue. So I wasn't even on and I still
Speaker 1: was showing love. That's how he was. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I opened up for Arab and rock
Speaker 1: him at the Apollo. So all this stuff, Steve need
Speaker 1: to chill because he didn't. He didn't do his research.
Speaker 1: He didn't like me. He took things personal, even with
Speaker 1: the he took things personal. Like you know what I think,
Speaker 1: mag I'm sorry to cut you off. This is I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not defending him, but what I think was
Speaker 1: he was invested in NAS and NAS that's it. Anything
Speaker 1: came around or disputed Nis. He just didn't want to
Speaker 1: do that. You know. In the same show he told
Speaker 1: me he hated on me to my face. He said,
Speaker 1: I thought you ain't go hard nor he said that
Speaker 1: to my face. So well, I'm gonna show you just
Speaker 1: how complex Magazine interview with Steve Stout. There was an
Speaker 1: interview with Cormega saying you. There was an interview with
Speaker 1: car Mega was saying that you had a role in
Speaker 1: him being kicked out the firm. He Steve, he was
Speaker 1: never in the firm. Man, He should have never been
Speaker 1: in the firm. Believe me, he wasn't. Truly didn't get
Speaker 1: along cold tom Out. Tom Out even when NAS was
Speaker 1: shouting them on one Love, they weren't cool. That was cool.
Speaker 1: He just got out of jail. It took him a
Speaker 1: while to get acclimated to what was going on. Tim out,
Speaker 1: let me fix this right now. First of all, one
Speaker 1: Love came out, Steve, you wasn't even in the picture.
Speaker 1: You was not Nas manager until it was written. When
Speaker 1: we Love came out. I was in jail when it was.
Speaker 1: I was there when Nas y'all together that. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Steve wasn't around. I was there when Nas met Steve's
Speaker 1: so right now you're giving your person that you was there.
Speaker 1: You wasn't even when Nas was shouting the mount on
Speaker 1: one Love. They weren't cool. That was cool. He just
Speaker 1: got out jail. No, I didn't get out of jail.
Speaker 1: I was in jail, said one love, One Love at
Speaker 1: the term of been jail man. People write in jail.
Speaker 1: When I was writing Nas and jails would write one
Speaker 1: Love at the end of my letter. Okay, now should
Speaker 1: I continue? That was cool. He just got out of jail.
Speaker 1: It took him a while to get acclimated to what
Speaker 1: was going on. In the business sense, he said, In
Speaker 1: the business sense, and his manager at the time. A
Speaker 1: lot of different things times Chris no time out, he said,
Speaker 1: in a business sense, and his manage at the time,
Speaker 1: a lot of different listened to that. They didn't like Bis.
Speaker 1: Bis wasn't seasoned, he was new. But there goes there
Speaker 1: goes arrogant mega again. I gave somebody from the project
Speaker 1: a chance to be my manager. There goes me showing
Speaker 1: love as usual. So Biz didn't have the savvy business
Speaker 1: savvy of a mar Pitts or a Steve or a Chrish.
Speaker 1: But he was somebody from the hood that I was
Speaker 1: trying to give a chance to. All right, So in
Speaker 1: the business sense, in the business sense, I owned my
Speaker 1: masters and I owned my publishing. So how I didn't
Speaker 1: have a business sence. I've been owing my publics sence
Speaker 1: since I was on death jams. Okay um, A lot
Speaker 1: of different things. But here's this, he's act really a
Speaker 1: really good guy, does it? Steven? How the funk are
Speaker 1: you belligerent and a really good guy? That's inconsistent? You
Speaker 1: can't be belligerent and be a really good guy. A
Speaker 1: little breakdown, time out. But he felt like NAS owed
Speaker 1: him too much and felt like he was too important.
Speaker 1: Yo on my mother's grave. You can call nas. You
Speaker 1: can ask no in your private life, on your p
Speaker 1: or any time. I've never asked NOAs for a penny.
Speaker 1: Now it's not even the only famous dude from Queen Bridge.
Speaker 1: I never asked Molly Marl or anything. I never asked
Speaker 1: Shan Craig, Chantey, Craig Nature Cape, nor Mark Deep, Louis,
Speaker 1: Louis de Valve round test everybody from the Bridge and
Speaker 1: say you even your man used to say that Megan,
Speaker 1: don't ask no wife for ship right now? So how
Speaker 1: so so so this is a guy who takes things
Speaker 1: too personal. You can't mix business with personal. So when
Speaker 1: he wants to compete with Chris, like that's the different
Speaker 1: between Chris and Steve Christine Kristin let that personal intervene
Speaker 1: with the business. So when you sing, I had to
Speaker 1: get acclimated, had to get aclimated the street. I was
Speaker 1: just out of jail. You can't tell somebody that's first
Speaker 1: out of jail some of the things that you were
Speaker 1: saying to me as a man. Now, with all of
Speaker 1: this being said, um I brought I showed this, I
Speaker 1: read this to show you the inconsistency. And so that
Speaker 1: so the next question was so even when he was
Speaker 1: on the firm of action, he wasn't actually part of
Speaker 1: the firm. They asked him that because they're like obviously shocked,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well he was at the time. You
Speaker 1: just contradicted yoursel first statement said he never was. He
Speaker 1: said that idea this surround him, and he just bunked
Speaker 1: out right. He said that projects should have been fantastic.
Speaker 1: I have arguments all the time with Jay and Park.
Speaker 1: You're bouncing. You deflected from the question. So my thing
Speaker 1: is this, where did I bug all that? Where did
Speaker 1: I bug out? Is I didn't sign to you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably because any anything other than that, I didn't bark
Speaker 1: out and you understand that though you understand that, but
Speaker 1: you said you probably you nas man, he managed his
Speaker 1: nas You come home, you get the biggest deal with
Speaker 1: his enemy that we learned later. I didn't know that's
Speaker 1: the enemy, and that's not my business. It's true, but
Speaker 1: I just came home. I just came home from But
Speaker 1: you see where he's coming from. Though I don't see
Speaker 1: where he's coming because he because because no, I'm the
Speaker 1: type of dude now that you see before you didn't
Speaker 1: know me like you know me now, And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that. You know me
Speaker 1: better now. You could talk to me about anything, but
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. If you told me that,
Speaker 1: all I'm trying to say is trying to see it
Speaker 1: from his angle and his angle, He's probably like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what Mega is one of this? This this is a
Speaker 1: mythical creature, right, this guy has so much buzz and
Speaker 1: he's nas man. So he probably looked at it like,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to sign with me, and you signed to
Speaker 1: Chris even though it's violent records. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: give you steve to it. I think he might have
Speaker 1: took a fence to it. He listened to that afterwards.
Speaker 1: Just how this fucking regulation game. I'm not good with Spike.
Speaker 1: I'm not good with Spike. Like I'm very transparent, Like
Speaker 1: you know that I'm gonna take a person if I
Speaker 1: get upset about Son, Yo, Son, I moved honorably. Even
Speaker 1: people that don't funk with me, be like, yo, Megan's
Speaker 1: a loyal duel. Megan's a solid dude, straight up. You
Speaker 1: know that. You know people from the street, Yo, we
Speaker 1: never had but you see that's where Steves could have
Speaker 1: been coming from he was doing too much stuff to
Speaker 1: to to win my my my affiliation with him. Yo,
Speaker 1: they raised me off a song a lot of familiar.
Speaker 1: I was a lot of familiar, the regional version. Then
Speaker 1: I got raised offit, you know what I'm saying. Or
Speaker 1: I go to a if there's if there's a show.
Speaker 1: There was a show one time and there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of people from the hood Queensbridge there, so I'm on
Speaker 1: thet We're all on the line. We're getting in the show.
Speaker 1: So I'm last. I stand last because I'm an artist.
Speaker 1: I'm mega. So y'all go in. I'm telling the guy
Speaker 1: you let them go because I'm gonna get in. And
Speaker 1: it's at Nassaw Collins Sam So there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: tickets for all of us. So the tickets Steve gave me.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm good. Everybody got tickets. So he's reading
Speaker 1: regular people from the hood, you know some of these people.
Speaker 1: So he's like, I just looking at the tickets. So
Speaker 1: he's pointing, like, all right, your cities over there, like Filly,
Speaker 1: don't tell me your tickets up there people, y'all. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, he was playing a lot of games
Speaker 1: like that, but that you know, if you, if me
Speaker 1: and Steve would have really had dialogue, I think we
Speaker 1: could have had to understand. But we didn't have the dialogue.
Speaker 1: I think me and you went through the same thing
Speaker 1: with him. This is the reason why I'm gonna actually
Speaker 1: like trying to wrap for him a little bit, is
Speaker 1: because I feel like we chose the other side. We
Speaker 1: were it was Chris is boys. You understand like we were,
Speaker 1: We would were. You were violator, whether you look at
Speaker 1: it like that or not. I was violator. And later
Speaker 1: on in life, after him coming on the show and
Speaker 1: him saying, you know, because you guys with quests and
Speaker 1: he's saying all that, it hit me later that I
Speaker 1: was in the middle of a war that I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I was in time out. This is why money, This
Speaker 1: is why money doesn't make you happyer. Money isn't everything,
Speaker 1: because first of all, how long is Crispin dead? A minute? Right?
Speaker 1: How long is he How long does these interactions happened?
Speaker 1: Me signing with with with with violating was n six,
Speaker 1: So you mean in eighteen, no want that in seventeen?
Speaker 1: How many years later like this, you're a millionaire right now.
Speaker 1: You you got a good life. Let all that ship go.
Speaker 1: I let go. You know, I don't have no beef
Speaker 1: with nobody no more. I don't even got beef for
Speaker 1: I don't got beef with Steve. I don't got no
Speaker 1: problem with Steve. I respect Steve. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Whatever happened in the past, that's the past. You know,
Speaker 1: people that live in people that live in the past
Speaker 1: don't have no real estate in the present. I think
Speaker 1: it makes a noise of that continue. So you do
Speaker 1: know your legend, They're gonna have to talk about you.
Speaker 1: The guy to talk about you, maga. I I feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes you humble yourself and feel like people shopping,
Speaker 1: But that's that You're part of hip hop history. They're
Speaker 1: gonna bring you off every fucking time. You see that
Speaker 1: word you just use and that you follow me on
Speaker 1: social media said you be in my shows. That's the
Speaker 1: word more people used than the arrogant Megan's man, humble.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that about myself. I didn't even
Speaker 1: I just thought I was quiet, man. People be like
Speaker 1: I do regular stuff that's regular to me like, but
Speaker 1: fans find it, they find it to be bigger than
Speaker 1: normal because a lot of artists don't do the things
Speaker 1: I do. I've been talking to fans on social I've
Speaker 1: been on social media for what overfit over fifteen years.
Speaker 1: I mean I've been on the internet before, over fifteen years.
Speaker 1: I was doing stuff before people was doing it. I
Speaker 1: was on the internet. I don't even know the year,
Speaker 1: but you know this stuff like I interact with my
Speaker 1: fans after the shows. You've been at shows, I talked
Speaker 1: to them, I was signed the autographs like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the same the same way I am now, I've been
Speaker 1: like that. It's just that a lot of people didn't
Speaker 1: know that they had their perceptions. So the scariest thing
Speaker 1: about this whole conversation that we're just having is that
Speaker 1: a lot of the narratives on me were created by
Speaker 1: other people, not even by my own actions. And that's
Speaker 1: the funk up thing. And that's why I was like
Speaker 1: funk the industry, because it's like people was creating these things.
Speaker 1: I don't even like the party. It's like he wanted
Speaker 1: to be an alarmed like the party. Today. I have
Speaker 1: a sick Jes Luise, You've got jay Z and pood
Speaker 1: you bro, there's five as a sick fifty dollars to sip.
Speaker 1: Please have one sick goddamnit, geez, Louise, I'm please, come on, man,
Speaker 1: come on, let's do it. Let's come on. What's it
Speaker 1: you think about that? But wasn't this question? God? Because listen,
Speaker 1: I said on Drink Champs with Trash, I said, I
Speaker 1: think Mega became even batter person when you took your shahda.
Speaker 1: I attribute that to Islam at my wrong, I think
Speaker 1: where's my phone? That you got more spec I gotta know.
Speaker 1: I want to know that that I think. I think
Speaker 1: you're right, and I think you're wrong. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: respect this, I think you're right. Take it from wrong first.
Speaker 1: I think you're wrong because you feel like somebody brought
Speaker 1: this out recently. There's like, yo, i've seen anything with
Speaker 1: nor like he's like you've been like that, Like you
Speaker 1: gotta understand, Like Queen Fridge, you was a part of
Speaker 1: that of the movement. Yes I'm not, but I I
Speaker 1: can't take that. It's part of that movement. So you
Speaker 1: noticed just from you being out there, there's different movements
Speaker 1: and the people stick today sat the people stick today set.
Speaker 1: Sometimes rappers have issues with each other. It don't even
Speaker 1: because of the rappers, because of other people people involved.
Speaker 1: So I think you really never me and you was cordiable.
Speaker 1: We never really got to know each other. So if
Speaker 1: you were fed a certain thing, if I'm acquired dude
Speaker 1: and you see me posted up and like you said,
Speaker 1: I'm looking a certain way, you might look like, oh,
Speaker 1: just dude thinking. But if you know me, I've been
Speaker 1: think about it. I took the whole queen for the
Speaker 1: six Flags. I wasn't Muslim when I did that. I
Speaker 1: was paying for basketball to this for women. I wasn't
Speaker 1: Muslim when I did that. I put bills on it
Speaker 1: from the project. He never managed nobody. I had superstar
Speaker 1: Man and just wanted to manage me. I wasn't Muslim
Speaker 1: when I did that, Like I did a lot for
Speaker 1: a lot of people. I wasn't Muslim, and I did
Speaker 1: that even in the street. You never heard like I
Speaker 1: never abused my power. I used to. I always just
Speaker 1: trying to make peace, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: people don't talk about that. So it's like I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I think you never really got to know me. People
Speaker 1: don't know like like that, not meeen we ce bridge.
Speaker 1: We stay the creeze bridges. It was the only two rapport,
Speaker 1: but we was. It was good. So the only two
Speaker 1: raptors and mother whole fucking thing. I think after that
Speaker 1: we really started having Before we just had peace and
Speaker 1: all of that. And back in the days, I didn't
Speaker 1: know where you stood. Because I keep it real. There
Speaker 1: was times when we had a mutual I'm associated what
Speaker 1: you want and he would be like, yeah, no, he said,
Speaker 1: like like it almost made it feel like me you
Speaker 1: was me and you was competition, but we wasn't competition
Speaker 1: or like like um yeah, but um because I want
Speaker 1: the trash said that. Trash said, or you're a mega
Speaker 1: is cool. I thin't gonna know for that too. So
Speaker 1: so and the crazy thing was it wasn't that. I
Speaker 1: don't think he was saying that. What I think he
Speaker 1: was saying was I never see y'all hung out together.
Speaker 1: I think because we didn't. When we would hung out,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't like it's not it's not, he's nothing you
Speaker 1: gotta see, like, I've never seen him and you hang
Speaker 1: out together. So so my thing is this, I'll get
Speaker 1: to that in a minute. So when me and you
Speaker 1: got cool, we did something we never did in the pass,
Speaker 1: like I might see you at a show and we're
Speaker 1: standing at each other. What up? What's good? You got
Speaker 1: your people? I got my people were good, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's wouldn't write you to show
Speaker 1: you and write you the shows. You come out with
Speaker 1: my guests, I come out of your guess, and then
Speaker 1: it's like you're fucking with each other, but then there's
Speaker 1: always somebody in between that that U yo. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: he said dish. Somebody told me you didn't like me,
Speaker 1: so so so listen. So the son said, y'all hate
Speaker 1: each other. For one, that's an exaggeration because hate is
Speaker 1: a strong word. So as a man, did me and
Speaker 1: you ever stop each other's money? Did we ever try
Speaker 1: to go at each other's lady? Did we ever had
Speaker 1: physical conflict? So? Why the funk would I hate you?
Speaker 1: It was always other people never hated you. So as
Speaker 1: far as the light part, I didn't know if I
Speaker 1: should like you because I'm here and like you said this,
Speaker 1: so I'm like what it's like. But it's like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure Norri out because somebody to say something.
Speaker 1: But then Noria showed me love that the crazy ship.
Speaker 1: It was the same thing back for me. People would
Speaker 1: you know what it was? I think people just didn't
Speaker 1: want us to be cool Like I think, Bro, you
Speaker 1: gotta understand, I want to against Queensbridge. I want to
Speaker 1: gainst my own people to yo, don't you're not jumping him.
Speaker 1: That's how we know. So ship like that trash don't
Speaker 1: know because he wasn't dead. So and then Yo, you're
Speaker 1: doing Clue Show. You invited me to Clue Show. See
Speaker 1: ship like that? Or you did your video. I'm in
Speaker 1: the video in the starring rock in ordem you supposed
Speaker 1: to run some stars and so I'm like, yo, so
Speaker 1: it's like okay for somebody that don't like me this
Speaker 1: dude and showing a lot of love, I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like they did. They played us, So I
Speaker 1: think so so like I said, and I thought to myself, reasons,
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, Like, think about how many
Speaker 1: people we knew that as dead and you'd be like, damn,
Speaker 1: he died over some bullshit or somebody that's in jail
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, damn, hit Joe some bullshit. So
Speaker 1: you gotta think about that with relationships, like why didn't
Speaker 1: I like nor Rea? But why didn't like because somebody said, no,
Speaker 1: you don't like me. I gotta I gotta me. Don't
Speaker 1: like me because of that exactly because you feel I
Speaker 1: didn't get defensive. So it's like every true, it's like
Speaker 1: I did the same thing. I never had to get you.
Speaker 1: I never Let's get straight into it. So you're drag
Speaker 1: y'all got to like weirdest. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: and you you hit me and you said, yo, why
Speaker 1: would you ask trash about me? And the thing is,
Speaker 1: I didn't know where y'all stood as a real human,
Speaker 1: and we didn't speak about it or camera or on
Speaker 1: camera trash. So I need to hear your side of
Speaker 1: the story. I'm gonna say this. What is he right now?
Speaker 1: Is he? Is he right? What is he his brother?
Speaker 1: What is he like? Is he fopper? Saying? What is he?
Speaker 1: What's his? What is he right now? I'm not sure? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think he's fopped because all right, so all right,
Speaker 1: if he's Fopper center on that show that you did,
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, he do you know what kills me
Speaker 1: about you? Omega? Y'all used to hate each other. So
Speaker 1: and then you said I get Megan. Now he said,
Speaker 1: you get him down? Does he get you? That was said?
Speaker 1: That was a funk tongue, that was what that was
Speaker 1: forked tongue. I've never heard this expression. This sounds like
Speaker 1: thank you. Right, So I'm like, wow, that's like somebody
Speaker 1: slotting slotting. That's saying that even if I like you,
Speaker 1: like you really don't like me that he's saying, dude,
Speaker 1: does he get you? So? And then you said to me,
Speaker 1: Megan's a better person since he became Muslim. Then he said,
Speaker 1: I've been on sha how I've been on all those
Speaker 1: schools of thoughts. I'm just saying I'm the same niggat all.
Speaker 1: So my thing is, this tragedy is a competitive dude,
Speaker 1: and you know this, He's always been and he still is.
Speaker 1: And this ain't the point in life. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: be chilling right now. So if you just said Megan's
Speaker 1: a better person since he became Muslim, why you can't
Speaker 1: just be proud of me? Why you can't just be
Speaker 1: proud at Mega being a better person? Right? Then he says, uh,
Speaker 1: I've been on sha howd I've been on all those
Speaker 1: trains of thought? As if those things are behind you
Speaker 1: now that those that make you a better So now
Speaker 1: if you're righteous, right, right? I had a righteous down.
Speaker 1: This is so articulate. How could one claim to be
Speaker 1: righteous and not have knowledge, wisdom and understanding of two
Speaker 1: men having peace? When the very first word you say
Speaker 1: to a brother or sister is peace, whether it's God
Speaker 1: or Earth, you say peace to them peace. So knowledge yourself.
Speaker 1: It's just information if not applied in your ways and actions.
Speaker 1: So if he's seen that me and you were not
Speaker 1: cool back in the days, and that's it something to
Speaker 1: be celebrated, not questions, I understand. So I made a
Speaker 1: mental old of that, and then I said, any man
Speaker 1: that truly understands the merits of peace would commend those
Speaker 1: who find it, unless unless it's something he himself has
Speaker 1: yet to find, progression is classes damn keep going. Any
Speaker 1: man that truly understands the merits of peace with commendos
Speaker 1: who find it, unless it's something he himself has yet
Speaker 1: to find. Progression is far and ground for those content
Speaker 1: with standing and regression. Piece is a beautiful thing. That's
Speaker 1: why it's noticeable when a person is at peace, they
Speaker 1: move different, and lack of peace leaves you vulnerable to turmoil,
Speaker 1: and that too is noticeable. Well, I attribute that I'm
Speaker 1: being being honest with you because, like I said, we
Speaker 1: didn't know each other. But we didnt know each other,
Speaker 1: but since if i'd have been the shata that that,
Speaker 1: I get that. But the thing is, I'll be feeling
Speaker 1: like you at peace now you know what it was
Speaker 1: Back then, I just felt like I felt like we
Speaker 1: were at war period rappers. We was always on guard exactly.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like in these recent years be
Speaker 1: seeing you, You've just been acquiring that same exact ship
Speaker 1: you said that you've been you, You've been you come
Speaker 1: across like as a piece of First I'll break that
Speaker 1: down to you two things. It's it's um. It's a
Speaker 1: few things that make me. There's a few things that
Speaker 1: make me um at peace. Um. Being Muslim does bring
Speaker 1: you peace, um, if you if you're seeking it, and
Speaker 1: somebody like us where we came from, we gotta seek
Speaker 1: peace because we see the other side so much like yo,
Speaker 1: your mom is still alive. Right, So it's like that's yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I don't got that. So on your worst days, let's
Speaker 1: just say you fell off, you had nothing you could go,
Speaker 1: you could go and get that hug from mom. You
Speaker 1: could go get that that home cooked mill, that conversation
Speaker 1: my mom wasn't My mom never got to see me
Speaker 1: typing my shoelaces, never got to see me graduate from kindergarten,
Speaker 1: never got to see me riding a bike. So so
Speaker 1: it's people like you that I look at y'all like
Speaker 1: y'all blessed to have that. So the Muslim thing is
Speaker 1: like you have to carry yourself in a a certain way
Speaker 1: as a Muslim. It's a thing called a dad too.
Speaker 1: It's a respect that you show others and and it's like, um,
Speaker 1: the energy you put out is is kind of like
Speaker 1: the energy that you want to receive. Now as a Muslim,
Speaker 1: I try to set example or try to lead by
Speaker 1: example with my ways in my action. That's why I
Speaker 1: try not to be inconsistent. And that's why, um, I
Speaker 1: do everything well through it out. Um. The reason I
Speaker 1: want pieces because I've never had it. It's just like
Speaker 1: when you pull, you want money, when you cold, you
Speaker 1: want warmth, Allen, It's like Marcus Gary times two. That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all. I'm sorry. I spoke to one of my friends.
Speaker 1: He's not from the hood. Um, he's a white guy.
Speaker 1: He was raising New England. Comes from a good family
Speaker 1: and he's seen He said, yo, Mega, you've been more
Speaker 1: funerals than than some then my grandfather. You know, people
Speaker 1: in the eighties and you know, get to a certain age.
Speaker 1: Your grandfather's your grandpather. They don't have some funds. It's
Speaker 1: like when you look at my life since you knew me,
Speaker 1: it's a gym between knowing somebody being close to somebody.
Speaker 1: Look at the people that died from Queen per Downstoro
Speaker 1: that was close, not not I with me like Draws
Speaker 1: was close with me. Spake Pete like you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't people. I wasn't with these people, you know, saying
Speaker 1: I lost so many people. My cousin Ogi died. You
Speaker 1: know what's the crazy ship? Man? I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: I had never knew best friends shoot at each other
Speaker 1: until I went to Queensbriog. Yeah, yeah, I see crazy
Speaker 1: yet married with But Queen bed are different. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: went one week it was Lake and Draws in the
Speaker 1: terror down together. And the next week they said you
Speaker 1: can't go there, and I said why and they said
Speaker 1: Lake and Draws. Zach wall Oh, he was going to
Speaker 1: queen you back there, I was like, I was the
Speaker 1: only thing. I can't even shot mEq shot me me.
Speaker 1: There I went and that was the first time I said, damn,
Speaker 1: best friends could become strangers with like the NIS line,
Speaker 1: I've been best friends to become strangers. I remember that
Speaker 1: like it was yesterday. I remember a lake and Draws
Speaker 1: being best friends. And when I came back and I
Speaker 1: asked for them together, it was like it was taboo
Speaker 1: to actually and they're like, what are you talking about? That?
Speaker 1: Hang LIKEE Like I was like, I saw that. I
Speaker 1: saw this in my own eyes. That's my first life lesson, dad.
Speaker 1: You can be best friends and enemies the fucking very
Speaker 1: next day. Because that's how it seemed like to me.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's why Recipes Draws took many years
Speaker 1: to heal from Draws d um. And that's why I
Speaker 1: seek peace, and that's why I think I'm sorry. Can
Speaker 1: you say that again? You said it took years for you.
Speaker 1: It took me years to recover from Drawers being gone.
Speaker 1: It wasn't an easy loss for me, is it Okay?
Speaker 1: We talked about the situation Draws, because I'll tell you
Speaker 1: and you could tell me if you want to or
Speaker 1: this part out because this this hurt me too. The
Speaker 1: fact that it was like an eighteen year old. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was. No, I don't think he's eighteen.
Speaker 1: The dude who killed him, he's not. He's older than that,
Speaker 1: all right, But it's still it's still sad because because
Speaker 1: it is that, like the O G is not respecting
Speaker 1: that the young culture. Is that us being old sometimes? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the I think drawings drus love. I
Speaker 1: don't think nobody wore Queen Gridge on his chest like
Speaker 1: Drawings he did. And I think Bumpy Bumpy is close up.
Speaker 1: He's like close second. Yeah, shout out to Bump. Drawers
Speaker 1: loved the hood so hard, he would defend anybody, and
Speaker 1: I think he was just he just loved the hood.
Speaker 1: The love that he gave should have that that should
Speaker 1: have never happened. That ship. I stopped going to queens
Speaker 1: Bridge when George died for like a year, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't even walk by that area because it hurt um.
Speaker 1: She heard me too. Yeah, I don't know even fun
Speaker 1: queens Bridge. That was my man. Like I know Draws,
Speaker 1: I know the other person I know drawers mother, I
Speaker 1: know the other person's mother. I don't know that you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's the saddest thing about
Speaker 1: hood beats. And that's why sometimes you gotta like the
Speaker 1: old meat. You know what the problem is. We move
Speaker 1: off ego and pride. Sometimes we get we we have
Speaker 1: spontaneous reactions. It's like you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: it's like I said before, like a gun has to
Speaker 1: be the last resort, not the first response, because you
Speaker 1: can't take that back. I don't know it was. This
Speaker 1: thing is kicking right now. So a lot of times,
Speaker 1: a lot of things that happened in the hood, if
Speaker 1: we had just thought it out, it wouldn't have happened.
Speaker 1: Like my crew, Droves was a good fella. I always
Speaker 1: heard of the good Fellas. Yeah, Droves was a good
Speaker 1: fella and like that. That that across the divide because
Speaker 1: Droves are part of us and forty Busters and good Fellas.
Speaker 1: What was it? What was the difference? Forty buses is
Speaker 1: a different crew forty buss just like that's one of
Speaker 1: the first the forty Busters, like the prototype for us,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like we we we
Speaker 1: we we respect them. You know what I'm saying. Um,
Speaker 1: the way they moved, they moved like a family, like
Speaker 1: a unit. And basically it was like the protop for us.
Speaker 1: There was a blueprint for us that these people came
Speaker 1: before you and not. And then let's just where's draws from?
Speaker 1: He's from Temp Street or he draws from forty shide
Speaker 1: of Temp Street. Rest in peace to her, to her,
Speaker 1: her brother, he's from Temps Street. So listen, let's just
Speaker 1: give ten seconds of total solids right now because he's
Speaker 1: from Temps Street and let's give some love to my
Speaker 1: brother sattles ready, ten seconds rest in peace? Draws solid Yeah,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna five runs draws on tour with me. I've
Speaker 1: never seen somebody this crazy like I love draws like
Speaker 1: he was going, told him just lose his mind. Different
Speaker 1: draws is a different dude. Man, I'm missing even puff.
Speaker 1: No draws us out of it. So all right, we
Speaker 1: get you come home, right. You you're aware that these
Speaker 1: people want to sign. You were aware that these people
Speaker 1: want to sign. How was it initially that you you
Speaker 1: you made that decision to go with Chris or to
Speaker 1: to do this. And I imagine and I sincerely do
Speaker 1: not notice answer. Was NAS helping you in that direction?
Speaker 1: Or was it like when you came home? I came
Speaker 1: home ninety five, I got signed the ninety six. Um,
Speaker 1: when I came home, something was like because just becoming Nas.
Speaker 1: At this point he was already heady, yo, real toy.
Speaker 1: He could have retired after Alematic and you will still
Speaker 1: be mentioned as the greatest, one of the greatest, you know.
Speaker 1: So he was already who he was. Um, when I
Speaker 1: came home, he tried to get me a deal. See
Speaker 1: this is the thing, Chris, I mean, Um, Steve don't know.
Speaker 1: Son tried to give me a deal already. They just didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he tried to give me a deal with Capitol Records
Speaker 1: when you came home. Was even in the picture. But
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't. They didn't jump on it. They didn't.
Speaker 1: So I said to myself, UM, I just gotta work harder,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I started jumping on
Speaker 1: mad mix tapes. I started going to doing ciphers ironic
Speaker 1: we in Miami. I went to how can I be down?
Speaker 1: And I started I d you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was incited to drop ever I was I was
Speaker 1: in Cipher's killing it. So then people was like, Steve Rifkin,
Speaker 1: Steve Rifkin's brother, I never forget this day because this
Speaker 1: is like keep it real, goals wrong moment. Steve Rifkin's
Speaker 1: brother was like, because the god Biz used to manage
Speaker 1: Noid too, he had annoyed at me at the same time.
Speaker 1: But Nooyd went to Tommy Boy Records and Loud wanted
Speaker 1: NOI because so they were they felt away about that.
Speaker 1: So um, Steve River's brother was like, yellis and we'll
Speaker 1: sign you right now. We just don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with biss. Yeahs had a funny reputation. No no no.
Speaker 1: I guess it was like no not just that because
Speaker 1: it was mad about the noise thing. Yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: like he went he took a noise elsewhere when they
Speaker 1: wanted him to bring noise there. So the guy was
Speaker 1: like basically saying this this dude, right now, you can
Speaker 1: go to you can come Loud so daun m p
Speaker 1: dam and you wouldn't big punt video too. Yeah that
Speaker 1: was a video guy with my guy, so so later
Speaker 1: we'll bring that up. Fun that prodigy. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: obviously I didn't go it aloud, so you regret that,
Speaker 1: or no, it looks like it's definitely yeah. No no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, no, not understand everything. Let me let me
Speaker 1: be real. I think everything in life happens the way
Speaker 1: it's supposed to happen, because sometimes you gotta fall in
Speaker 1: order to learn how to get up, and sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta go through ship. If I didn't go through the
Speaker 1: things I went through, I would have never been independent
Speaker 1: or whatever, or you know what I'm saying. It's one
Speaker 1: of the best things about you that a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't know. That's how hard it is, how harder
Speaker 1: it is to be independent, and how much you went
Speaker 1: use relentless with it. I say that about you like
Speaker 1: all the time, like I respect how you kept me
Speaker 1: like from land Speed to all these these these and
Speaker 1: you knew who the funk with like you knew who
Speaker 1: the funk was at the right time. And I always
Speaker 1: amired that about you. I always amired your overseas game
Speaker 1: because us it was one point where America just didn't
Speaker 1: want to pay me m And you know what I
Speaker 1: did from myself was the Doodludorf, Germany. I was in Dublin,
Speaker 1: I was in fucking frankfoot Hanburg. I was in fucking
Speaker 1: Amsterdam every fucking other week, and the only person I
Speaker 1: knew that was doing that was you. And I was like,
Speaker 1: he's a hustler because he's doing it. I respected that
Speaker 1: because I knew you're doing exactly the same thing you want.
Speaker 1: You wanted your quota and you ain't wanna come down here.
Speaker 1: That's what I was doing it for. And but but
Speaker 1: how did you see that the future to be independent
Speaker 1: like that to get it, That's a great question. He
Speaker 1: had a journey. Hustle. Hustle is a hustle the way
Speaker 1: I looked at it like this, because you know, most
Speaker 1: artists would have left the amazing dependent and it would
Speaker 1: have been a while before they even got the curse.
Speaker 1: I'm being honest. I'm sorry to defer this curse. I
Speaker 1: hate the independent. It's hard. It's it's hard. It's not glorious.
Speaker 1: I told people that it's not glorious. It's not you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get all the perks everybody else get. But
Speaker 1: if you put in that work, I had a longer
Speaker 1: career than a lot of artists that that that have
Speaker 1: that got more. I'm shining at me or that that
Speaker 1: I was overlooked for certain other artists and now here
Speaker 1: I am on drink Chaps and they can't even get
Speaker 1: on the show. Goddamn. But you started doing the independent
Speaker 1: run right out right out the major. I started doing
Speaker 1: a lot of ship. You did it when it wasn't cool.
Speaker 1: But because a lot of people, a lot of artists
Speaker 1: would leave a major and dwell on it before they
Speaker 1: even start to do anything. A lot of artists that
Speaker 1: instead of taking advantage that you were just on the major,
Speaker 1: the audience doesn't know that, and then just start putting
Speaker 1: out stuff. You can't take back the two million they
Speaker 1: spent on you on exactly. I just gotta go go
Speaker 1: hard from that. A lot of artists that a lot.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of artists that were dope, as
Speaker 1: I'm talking about dope, and they get shell and you
Speaker 1: never heard from them again. They don't even wrap them more.
Speaker 1: I I was not gonna let that happen to me. So, um,
Speaker 1: let's go back to Chris Litty. One of the things,
Speaker 1: like I said, Chris Lottie gave me tough love and
Speaker 1: he made me want to prove things to him. One
Speaker 1: of the first things that I did. I was the
Speaker 1: first dude to do a mix tape. Nobody had mix tapes.
Speaker 1: I was like an album the artist mix tape. Nobody
Speaker 1: did that before me. They people don't want to give
Speaker 1: you my credit, but it's out there. The factor is
Speaker 1: out there. Got do it. Look, nobody was doing mix tape.
Speaker 1: I came out that mon Tylaway joint way back. So
Speaker 1: so by the time Survivor Ellis Tour came out, Chris
Speaker 1: Lottie wanted me to go on the tour onyx MX
Speaker 1: on Fire like scortch So I went on that. I
Speaker 1: went on that. I tried to get on the door
Speaker 1: just so you know. Yeah, so I went. I went
Speaker 1: on that tour and I was killing it. You can
Speaker 1: see the foot is online for some of the shows.
Speaker 1: So when we go to places like I mean when
Speaker 1: we first went to Chica, go on Detroit, Apollo, You
Speaker 1: and Foxy and that's when Freeze came out and was
Speaker 1: looking crazy. I've seen that. So we did though we
Speaker 1: did the uh we did this survival It was tour.
Speaker 1: I went across the country with no album out, with
Speaker 1: no single out, but people knew the words to my
Speaker 1: songs from that mixtape. So when I go to Chicago,
Speaker 1: I keep it real. I probably told you this before.
Speaker 1: When I went to Chicago, I was like, Chicago and Detroit,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm sick because I don't want to perform.
Speaker 1: I was scared. I was like, cause I don't got nothing.
Speaker 1: Now these people are not gonna know me, They're gonna
Speaker 1: probably boom me. I was scared, and then I said,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it. I got on stage in Chicago,
Speaker 1: I probably got one of the I probably got the
Speaker 1: second ladd of emotion of ovation at night, and I'm like, wow.
Speaker 1: So we go to Detroit. I'm getting love too. So
Speaker 1: oh yeah. So I'm like, people like, I got your album.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we're just talking about and they showed me
Speaker 1: in the mixtape. They looked at my mixtape like it
Speaker 1: was an album. That's how I got big in Lon
Speaker 1: then too. But also because deaf jams. Back in the days,
Speaker 1: record companies you probably noticed because you was a DJ,
Speaker 1: they would send your music out. Sometimes they would send
Speaker 1: your whole album. I send dad tapes. I got mad
Speaker 1: Dad tapes of Cormega Dad tapes. They would send your
Speaker 1: music and there was sometimes overseas they would give you
Speaker 1: them your whole album, because they gave my whole album.
Speaker 1: So by the time I go to London. I went
Speaker 1: to London, they had my home. They're like, yo, yeah
Speaker 1: they made this song. I'm like, I've seen't even know.
Speaker 1: I didn't know the name. So so yeah. So from
Speaker 1: doing that mixtape, that's how I traveled the country, and
Speaker 1: that's how I knew I had a buzz. And that's
Speaker 1: what I'm telling Chris. I'm like, yo, bro, and Chris
Speaker 1: like you sure like it ain't like Chris is like, Yo,
Speaker 1: don't let your like, don't let your man's just like
Speaker 1: gash you like, because we need people that donnather recks.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Chris, I'm telling you that other people like
Speaker 1: your Chris, I ain't other people like your Chris. I've
Speaker 1: seen them selling Mega's mixtape and in a car lots
Speaker 1: and I was getting my car then. So the buzz starting.
Speaker 1: But once I did that Survival the Illus tour, you
Speaker 1: couldn't tell me nothing. I've seen it. I rocked Apollo, Bro.
Speaker 1: It's on video. You canna saw it. So so all
Speaker 1: across the country, I never got booed. It was love
Speaker 1: everywhere with no album out and no single that's unheard of.
Speaker 1: That's when I wanted to get off. That's why I
Speaker 1: got off Death Chant. When I came back from that tour,
Speaker 1: I got off the label. I said, why you because
Speaker 1: because they had no plans for me. Bro if if
Speaker 1: if I'm a I'm a I'm a businessman, and I
Speaker 1: put you on the road with no single and you're
Speaker 1: killing it. Almost when soon did you come at from
Speaker 1: that tour? We're starting, we're starting playing in your album.
Speaker 1: I came back and there's no plans And to the
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons is even like, you know what the fund
Speaker 1: is going on with Mega Ship? Shout out to Russell.
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons was like, what's up with Mega ship too?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what that means. But
Speaker 1: oh he said, he called it le, he called he's dead.
Speaker 1: He came to the tour and seen me with his eyes.
Speaker 1: He's seen that ship that said. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: he loved the song My Time of Diary. Wow. So
Speaker 1: it's like I'm like wrapping Russe is a hip hop
Speaker 1: like he really you know what I'm saying, a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I played myself part me for saying the
Speaker 1: N word. He's a hip hop dude to say the
Speaker 1: word neither. Yeah. So anyway, so after that tour, when
Speaker 1: I've seen they had no plans for me, I said,
Speaker 1: I can't be here no more. And the last straw. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: when when it violated UM compilation compilation came out, I
Speaker 1: was only on one song. I took offense to that
Speaker 1: because I'm huh, I think I was, But you want
Speaker 1: violated management, I'm gonna violate the records. Damn, I only
Speaker 1: got one song. So how y'all you not how y'all
Speaker 1: building me up? So I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: just too much going on. There's too much, Like they're
Speaker 1: not prioritizing me. So I was. I went up there
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, you know what saying. So
Speaker 1: you left depth jam and violated at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing, but violated. It was violated death jams.
Speaker 1: So I went to Kevin. I went to Kevin Loos
Speaker 1: and I went to Kevin los office. At first, I
Speaker 1: told Christenam what I wanted. Yeah, that's he was fat
Speaker 1: it continue. I went to Kevin and I spoke to
Speaker 1: him like a man, and I said, yo, I told
Speaker 1: him I wanted to get off the label. And I said, because, um, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all not help y'all. I said, nothing, nothing on the
Speaker 1: shelf is gonna there's nothing sustainable on the shelf. Like
Speaker 1: if I'm on the shelf, you don't have no plans
Speaker 1: for me. And I said, every day you come to
Speaker 1: this office, you're driving in a nice car, and you
Speaker 1: drive into your nice house. I said, I want nice
Speaker 1: things too. I said, I want to live my life
Speaker 1: and I want to create as an artist, I asked him,
Speaker 1: and I asked him like a man. I said, all
Speaker 1: my years of being an artist here, I've never let
Speaker 1: my street affiliation or strength conflict with my professionalism as
Speaker 1: an artist. I said it just like that to him.
Speaker 1: So I basically gave my off. He couldn't refuse, and
Speaker 1: speaking him was right outside of a little bit so
Speaker 1: so um and respectfully. Yeah, I got my release after that,
Speaker 1: and they gave me money. They gave me like a
Speaker 1: more than free and clear. Yeah, they gave me like
Speaker 1: a I guess, like head hairs to hold you down
Speaker 1: because you're not you know, you're not gonna be signed anymore,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't sign somewhere immediately I could sign somewhere.
Speaker 1: I just they made me sign something where I couldn't
Speaker 1: sue them because they did a lot of funk ship.
Speaker 1: So that's how I got off a death chamce. But um,
Speaker 1: when I got off, UM, shout out to my man Beamy.
Speaker 1: Bammy flew me out to California. Warner Brothers was gonna
Speaker 1: give me seven hundred thousand fantastic story. Let's keep that's
Speaker 1: on strength of Beammy. Benny took me out there. Beny
Speaker 1: always believed that me, Bemmy was in jail, me and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so matter of fact, I had this note my calm
Speaker 1: right now. But um, I ain't got his number now,
Speaker 1: I said, if I had, I would call him. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I had a situation there. But Warner Brothers,
Speaker 1: that's when Warner Brothers was going through this restructuring ship
Speaker 1: and if you know about when the labels have mergers,
Speaker 1: everything stops. So I would have been on the shelf again.
Speaker 1: And in this rap game, you can't be on the
Speaker 1: shelf for four years and then ship for yes, you've
Speaker 1: done after that. So I didn't want to just I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that. So I said, you know, what.
Speaker 1: We didn't do that because they was going through their
Speaker 1: merger thing. I didn't want to wait, I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was impatient at that point. I wanted to come
Speaker 1: out t VT, but Records again, tvt Okay was gonna
Speaker 1: sign me Steve Gottli. Yeah, so here's a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: They had little John with there. Right, so here's a
Speaker 1: crazy thing. This is when I lost respect for death
Speaker 1: jams music, anything that you hold on to, it appreciates.
Speaker 1: My deal was signing nine six two d fifty. Remember
Speaker 1: I was the first rapper to get that quarter million
Speaker 1: dollar day. That was a back. That was a bad Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was So when I went to t VT, there
Speaker 1: was like, what was your deal? I was like two fifty.
Speaker 1: There's like all right, cool. So now being at I
Speaker 1: was on the shelf for like four four years, they
Speaker 1: should they should take a settlement, like if your deal
Speaker 1: was for two fifty, check this one fifty or whatever?
Speaker 1: Right this when this when and this one. I knew
Speaker 1: that they keep saying the shelf. I don't understand the show.
Speaker 1: The show was like being helped up. They're not putting
Speaker 1: the mouth and not releasing them. Okay, that's that's if
Speaker 1: you see you later. May people come back to you.
Speaker 1: So that happens to a lot of hard happens with
Speaker 1: a lot of tax label funked up. Yea. So this
Speaker 1: this is when I this one I had Now, when
Speaker 1: I got off death Jams, I was I didn't have
Speaker 1: interues with them. I was still cool with them. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I'm cool with them now. Obviously
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be for them, But at this moment, I
Speaker 1: don't know who. Is that a matter of fact that
Speaker 1: people have that I think? You know what? Sorry, I
Speaker 1: went to Crazy, went to fun he quit his job.
Speaker 1: I was here, I was not here. No, the Indian guy,
Speaker 1: I didn't know why he was in there. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is not the coaching. Sorry. So I went to
Speaker 1: far No, he was nuts. So this one and this one,
Speaker 1: and that's when I realized the industry is fucked up.
Speaker 1: T v T gave me the Swedish deal for them
Speaker 1: in the world. They was giving them back the whole
Speaker 1: two hundred fifty thou dollars to jam. Yes. De j
Speaker 1: said no, we want three hundred and fifty thousand. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My lawyer was like, that's unheard of. I've never seen
Speaker 1: nothing like that music depreciate. That's how I learned music
Speaker 1: depreciates from a lawyer. I didn't know that. He's like
Speaker 1: he was on the shelf for like five years. The music.
Speaker 1: They that's crazy. They want the three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: thousand instead of two hundred and fifty thousand. With their
Speaker 1: losses that they had with each other. What lawsuits something
Speaker 1: t VT and death jam had crazy lawsuits that her
Speaker 1: job being at Maybe I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I know I was pissed. I'm like, how the fun?
Speaker 1: They're gonna trust me three a hundred thousand more than
Speaker 1: my deal was for for five year old albums, So
Speaker 1: you gotta stop picking up for me? Man, come on,
Speaker 1: come on you black them ow I'm black? You know? Ship? Oh,
Speaker 1: come on, I got you, bro, I got you, marry
Speaker 1: come on. The guard not said come on, ain't drinking.
Speaker 1: Look we got the case good. This is beautiful on
Speaker 1: me here, my guy? How good ship? It's me. It's
Speaker 1: I'm working up. I'm working up. Okay what am I doing?
Speaker 1: Where you at? I'm not I'm not I'm okay. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this beautiful. That's a good barning hair. Right. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, beautiful moment right, this is love right
Speaker 1: love like when we first started kicking it again when
Speaker 1: I responded when I wrote something on Instagram for the
Speaker 1: first time, which people up. The first thing I wrote
Speaker 1: was unconditional love because this ain't this ain't conditions, son,
Speaker 1: I told you like a man says, I don't care
Speaker 1: about the firm. It's all goodhead. But I can't out
Speaker 1: my man, he said, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like, it is what it is. This is beautiful
Speaker 1: right here, and you're gonna take a sip. I can't
Speaker 1: even hit. I can't. I can. It's gonna be very
Speaker 1: philosophically and intelligent and ship like that already. See Yeah,
Speaker 1: look to y'all man pace bro, you'll you think, brother,
Speaker 1: thank you man? What love ye know this is? That
Speaker 1: was beautiful. You gotta take a sip, don't, man, Yo,
Speaker 1: that was beautiful when you take commercial break. This is
Speaker 1: a break right now if you want, I'm I can
Speaker 1: I go hold it down, man, This is very important
Speaker 1: and mega I'll do shots, but he ain't doing he
Speaker 1: ain't even doing a drink. I'll do one shot though,
Speaker 1: I'll do one shot in the building. That's my check
Speaker 1: with the name of the podcast. Full up the pull up,
Speaker 1: make sure you'll check that motherfucker out. But all right, Mega,
Speaker 1: I'm bouncing all around. But let's talk about Prodigy. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: hold up, we're gonna talk about Prodigy. We didn't finished
Speaker 1: the three fifty part. Okay, let's go three fifty listen. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they raised it the three fifty blunt but paid for it,
Speaker 1: so that killed that deal, right. So, like I said before,
Speaker 1: sometimes things that happened are supposed to happen, so you
Speaker 1: can't get upset with it. So when they raised the
Speaker 1: three fifty, I was like, funk the Testament album. I
Speaker 1: got mad and I made The Realness album so that
Speaker 1: shil never happened. I've never had an album called the Realness.
Speaker 1: That's why I ain't even mad at that. That can't
Speaker 1: be mad. Are we supposed to make? I think he's
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to them now, let's take it.
Speaker 1: It's a product. Okay, let's go to project you what
Speaker 1: was your relationship with Prodigy? Me and Prodigy was cool?
Speaker 1: That was my guy. Um Actually, I'm gonna go through
Speaker 1: my phone. Yeah, you got notes. I love your notes.
Speaker 1: I don't got a note from that one. Um, I
Speaker 1: love your notes. By the way, I'm doing that from
Speaker 1: now on. I ain't gonna lie. You gave me my
Speaker 1: best complement. I told you that, right, I said, that's
Speaker 1: my one of my favorite combuments. You said, you're winning.
Speaker 1: You're learning on the job, but you're winning, and I
Speaker 1: love that. That's one of my favorite compliments. If your
Speaker 1: people ain't motivating you, you know what I mean? That questionable?
Speaker 1: So so you're going for a prodigy quote right now? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking for something. I'm gonna see if it's
Speaker 1: in my phone. Sure type of time, I'm on, No,
Speaker 1: I go. I cut myself already established that in the camera.
Speaker 1: So I thank you. I respect you're protected me, but
Speaker 1: I already stabblished. Listen, I cut myself shaven negative. This
Speaker 1: is what it is. Man, Here we go. Okay, Oh
Speaker 1: you went to see him in jail. Yeah, I'm on
Speaker 1: that kind of time with my people. Ah, do you
Speaker 1: believe that he died for eggshells? I don't know what
Speaker 1: to believe with that. That was from that was that
Speaker 1: was that was kind of weird. You ever seen that video?
Speaker 1: They said that he was about to put out a
Speaker 1: documentary about Luminarity. And that's the reason why. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just gotta ask because that's been a theory that
Speaker 1: I heard so many things. But I just found it
Speaker 1: weird that he choked on the egg. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened, but I just found it weird. And I
Speaker 1: know queensd ain't been the same as far I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the music. It just feels different without him here,
Speaker 1: Like it's unfair almost, because like when you look at it,
Speaker 1: like look how we're vibing like a madness. Like look,
Speaker 1: last time we did an interview, he was like, would
Speaker 1: you do a que queens Bridge too? And I was
Speaker 1: like nah. But now it was like me and Son
Speaker 1: is on. You know what I'm saying. You just had
Speaker 1: nibs on the phone me and you come on. We great.
Speaker 1: So it's like, imagine Prodigy, you know what the crazy
Speaker 1: ship is? That was the actual I had. You know,
Speaker 1: I had seven hundred and fifty thousand for us to
Speaker 1: perform for the some sort these prints. Dude house went
Speaker 1: and I had every everyone said yeah but Pete wow.
Speaker 1: At one point everyone said yeah but Pete at one
Speaker 1: point and oh ship, Now I just calling back. Wait
Speaker 1: on FaceTime? Where do you call it back? Hold on,
Speaker 1: I'm just going on. Yeah, beautiful moment, A good look.
Speaker 1: This is a good look. This is a good look moment.
Speaker 1: You'll know if you get thinking to drink you a
Speaker 1: bad I'm trying to you know what, take a drip
Speaker 1: and take Sas for the culture that YO, hold up.
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta say, say it, Son, I
Speaker 1: love you, I'm proud of you, and I hope you
Speaker 1: get that fucking grammy many No, you know what we're from.
Speaker 1: Need to be in that conversations exactly. That's That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Your brockout, I love you, love you, I
Speaker 1: love you. Let's go. Oh man, this is a legend. Dary. Man,
Speaker 1: this legend Dary. I don't even know who's talking about PROD.
Speaker 1: Let's finished PROD to you. Okay, take this drink. I'm
Speaker 1: not drinking no more. Okay, Wes fifty five six. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna finish your ship. Don't worry about God. Tell
Speaker 1: j you approved, man, people that jay Z approved. I
Speaker 1: gotta make a function Jay Jay. Let me rock him
Speaker 1: one of their shows before. Yeah, let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: I'm in wherever you want to go provacy. I want to.
Speaker 1: And then I showed you the property picture. You went
Speaker 1: to see him in jail. Yeah, I ain't even gonna
Speaker 1: see poem the jail. I'm a foul nigger, but I
Speaker 1: paid this compensation. But I paid this commisation. So, like
Speaker 1: I said, probably he's a good brother, and uh he's
Speaker 1: missed and it just don't feel the same without him.
Speaker 1: Certain that you said that in certain instances, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I wish he was here and I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope Havoc knows that. You know, everybody is fully
Speaker 1: behind him and we want him to carry on that
Speaker 1: tradition and that legacy. You know what I'm saying. All Right,
Speaker 1: So this is probably you probably the only person that's
Speaker 1: qualified to answer this question right now. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: need them. It was a big discrepancy his murrle. He
Speaker 1: had a mirror and then his mirrle got violated. You're
Speaker 1: probably the only person that can answer this, and I
Speaker 1: need you to be the same way you've been in
Speaker 1: this whole interview. What was going on with that? I
Speaker 1: don't know what the fun was going on with that
Speaker 1: that answer as well. I mean, when when I first
Speaker 1: heard about it. I thought it was like I couldn't
Speaker 1: even believe it. I was like, wow, It's like, when
Speaker 1: you think about it, you could be the most despised
Speaker 1: criminal in the world. You're in the FBI's most wanted list.
Speaker 1: Soon as you're dead, you're not despisedble more. It's over
Speaker 1: in the mafia. You can have a war with this
Speaker 1: whole other family. So as you're dead, it's like some
Speaker 1: people from that family might even pay respects. So it's
Speaker 1: like that ship. You're an artist. From an artist perspective,
Speaker 1: that ship made Queen's Bridge look very bad because I'm
Speaker 1: an artist and I know what people are saying around
Speaker 1: the world, and I know what executives were saying, and
Speaker 1: you probably heard it too. Nobody wanted to funk. That
Speaker 1: ship made the whole that made Queen Bridge the movement
Speaker 1: look bad, and executives was mad, fans was mad. It
Speaker 1: was bad. So it's like the man is dead, and
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know what to say about that.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, I didn't do it. I don't got
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. And happened three times twice twice.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you're right, I know, I just wish everybody.
Speaker 1: I wish everybody would uh will grow from things I wish? Um. Yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I noticed, Yo, When ego takes the
Speaker 1: will you never get to your destination? Bro. And it's
Speaker 1: like sometimes, um, we gotta learn when to put our
Speaker 1: ego down and just and just be men or just
Speaker 1: we gotta have more empathy also and not pride because
Speaker 1: that was one of my flaws as a man at
Speaker 1: one point. And it's like, sometimes you gotta question yourself.
Speaker 1: I questioned myself, what is my pride got in me?
Speaker 1: Because you're proude is only gonna validate you while you
Speaker 1: in the when you're in the thriller, when you're in
Speaker 1: the heat of the moment, somebody violating, it's like boom,
Speaker 1: yeah what But pride is that instigated, that's never around
Speaker 1: when consequences come around. So proud to make you do
Speaker 1: something and in the next day regret takes over the conversation.
Speaker 1: Regret you ever do something, And then the next day
Speaker 1: you'd be like, damn, I wish all the time that why,
Speaker 1: why why we can't avoid why we can't nit that
Speaker 1: avoid the regret. So that's the thing we gotta do
Speaker 1: as men like dudes gotta put their egos aside because
Speaker 1: because um, because that ship that shouldn't getting you nowhere.
Speaker 1: And that's that's another reason why I'm at peace now,
Speaker 1: because my ego don't control me no more, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 1: there's a time to be dangerous, there's a time to
Speaker 1: be militant, but there's always a time to be a
Speaker 1: thinker like thinks the most dangerous people. Yo, bro, I
Speaker 1: went to the shooting range and I realized I shoot
Speaker 1: better now than I used to. You know, people from
Speaker 1: the hood. You were from the hood. Think about this
Speaker 1: average dude from the hood can't even shoot. That's why
Speaker 1: people get that's why there's so many accidents to shoot this.
Speaker 1: People get a gun, they're just like, yeah, what and
Speaker 1: they're just ready to shoot. They don't even know how
Speaker 1: to shoots. Very true, real talk. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things, there's a lot of ghetto things that we
Speaker 1: need to spoil. A minute, as a felon, you could
Speaker 1: do that, yeah, but oh, let's let's clean yourself. I
Speaker 1: haven't been in jail. I haven't been in troubling up
Speaker 1: with twenty joints, I'm so after while you ship is
Speaker 1: after while you has got one here though, leave it
Speaker 1: along at the wild. So when you get in trouble
Speaker 1: with the law, you got you cook. You're even gonna
Speaker 1: keep that staying on your shipt or you're gonna try
Speaker 1: to clean it up or so It's like me, I
Speaker 1: never knew I was gonna be worldwide like that as
Speaker 1: an artist. So now I'm starting to travel the world
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to have problems getting into have problem
Speaker 1: get into Canada like that. Yeah, they don't play that
Speaker 1: as you know, until you get out of here. Made.
Speaker 1: They kicked me out twice Australian, so I talk to
Speaker 1: get into us. It took me like three months to
Speaker 1: get in there, like doing PaperWorks and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's like now I'm like, damn, Like trouble was overrated.
Speaker 1: Think about it. That's hord pride. You in the hood.
Speaker 1: You wallet, Oh that's such and such. He get busy.
Speaker 1: But what is it getting busy get you? It can't
Speaker 1: get you real estate, it can't get you business investments. Like,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I don't even need gangsters
Speaker 1: with me because anything a gangster could do already could
Speaker 1: do myself and and and a real man, I don't
Speaker 1: even want to put my people in those situations because
Speaker 1: a lot of times those end up being extra you
Speaker 1: end up being accountable for somebody else, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like that's a that's a part
Speaker 1: of having power control being responsible with it. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I try not to get in stuff because I know
Speaker 1: when I'm capable, and I know how my people come.
Speaker 1: But I don't want my people getting into nothing. So
Speaker 1: now it was like, all right, how can I clean
Speaker 1: up my my ship? So I started staying out of
Speaker 1: trouble war more and more. That's that's another mesic conception.
Speaker 1: Omega's going back and forth to jail. That's bullshit, you
Speaker 1: know that ever since you met me? Have I ever
Speaker 1: been met to jail? You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like I'm trying to show people, especially the young dudes,
Speaker 1: that look, I know why people say that's because you
Speaker 1: have one of the best shoutouts the jail nigger could
Speaker 1: ever have. What's up with called Mega? Did you see
Speaker 1: him y'all together? What was he talking about? Plus now
Speaker 1: it ain't just that was talking to Yeah, that's one
Speaker 1: of the best jail shoutouts ever. But it is a
Speaker 1: long time ago. Man, I was, I need a home
Speaker 1: shout out now. I want these dudes to know. I
Speaker 1: want these young dudes. You know, when I really started,
Speaker 1: what really humbled me to Nori seeing young dudes look
Speaker 1: up to me, Like there's a bunch of core magas
Speaker 1: out there. Like there's dudes named Camga. There's people with
Speaker 1: my my face tattooed on that body. There's people with
Speaker 1: my quotes tattooed on You've probably seen it on my Instagram.
Speaker 1: One thing I did a page with like eight different posted,
Speaker 1: like eight different people with my That's crazy to see that.
Speaker 1: So it's stuff like that that's humbling. And it's like
Speaker 1: also traveling the world. Like I said, Yo, I went
Speaker 1: to Haiti. I've been to Uganda, Africa at the time.
Speaker 1: I did you start with Haiti, man, and you got
Speaker 1: my friend gas stuff right now he's back. He just turned.
Speaker 1: You performed in Haiti. I performed in Haiti. I did it.
Speaker 1: I did it. I did a song. I did a
Speaker 1: tribute song for Haiti. All the proceeds went to Haiti.
Speaker 1: Um you know what I'm saying. Actually, there's somebody in
Speaker 1: the house right now, and Haiti that that came from us,
Speaker 1: our contributions and our and our hard work and our
Speaker 1: hard work, you know what I'm saying. So I put
Speaker 1: in work there. When I went to Haiti Um there
Speaker 1: were still people buried in the street when that earthquake.
Speaker 1: Think there was still people under the rubble and it
Speaker 1: was it was devastating. I've never seen nothing like that
Speaker 1: in my life. Only in even COVID. Even the COVID
Speaker 1: ship that's make that it makes from the COVID was
Speaker 1: like because COVID and east Hurst, that ship hurt me.
Speaker 1: You've seen those fitches and I didn't go there personally,
Speaker 1: but when I've seen East Hearst, that's that's my hospital.
Speaker 1: Look if I get funked up, I go to St
Speaker 1: John's Umhurst. But at least the hospital still there. But
Speaker 1: the bodies was around the see that happy both. I
Speaker 1: was so scared. Family. A matter of fact, moment of
Speaker 1: silence to everybody. You want to open the bottom he
Speaker 1: still because I feel like we need this as the moment,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like you should open You've got a
Speaker 1: drink it, but I feel like you should to see
Speaker 1: if you still got champagne skilled, I don't got Come
Speaker 1: on you quiz fridge, do it? Cat? Somebody over there
Speaker 1: for me, open it, let me talk the talk for you.
Speaker 1: Oh this thing is then tap the bottom. This is
Speaker 1: old school. My father, my father, my father was raised
Speaker 1: in massy projects too. So that's for jack. So what
Speaker 1: was you saying, Haiti? Haiti? Humble with me? Because they
Speaker 1: imagine the White House with a whole at the top
Speaker 1: crumpling the White House where the president. They got a
Speaker 1: white house that looks like I was. It looked like
Speaker 1: it looked like a heart movie, like like one of
Speaker 1: those movies when when the bomb hit it like it
Speaker 1: looks like that's not it's not funny, it's it was
Speaker 1: talking like their buildings was toppled. They were still there
Speaker 1: was people who was like still looking for their family
Speaker 1: members like that in the ground. There was mad bodies everywhere.
Speaker 1: But the thing that made me go crazy and and
Speaker 1: really look at myself was like these people was still
Speaker 1: harmonious amongst each other. They wasn't mad, They wasn't better.
Speaker 1: The kids were still playing and I'm like, wow, we're
Speaker 1: over here fighting over somebody stepping on our sneakers or
Speaker 1: over bullshit, and these people got nothing and they're more
Speaker 1: happy than us with money. That ship makes you really
Speaker 1: look at yourself. When I came home, I stopped wearing
Speaker 1: jewelry for a while because I felt like a clown,
Speaker 1: like these people have nothing and they're happy than us. So,
Speaker 1: you know, that really over my eyes to certain things.
Speaker 1: And then when I went to Uganda, you know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a beautiful experience for me also, And you know, um,
Speaker 1: when I do these kind of things, I really don't,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't you know how people do think
Speaker 1: they publicize. I don't publicize it because it's from the heart.
Speaker 1: And if there's pictures, that's pictures. But I'm not old
Speaker 1: in with it. But when I went to you Ghana
Speaker 1: was a building experience. I've seen how happy that people were.
Speaker 1: I've seen like how over here America we are gluttonous
Speaker 1: in our ways. Like you you go overseas, you know,
Speaker 1: you never know. It's like you go to the store
Speaker 1: overseas and you'd be like, let me get a large shoulder,
Speaker 1: and it's like this size or whatever. But over hey,
Speaker 1: I lodged like this. So we over we over consume,
Speaker 1: We're over consuming. They don't even tip when you tipped them.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't even know what that is. They actually
Speaker 1: take it personal, like I tipped somebody there. They don't.
Speaker 1: I gonna tell you what this is with this ship,
Speaker 1: Like poultry side to be real size and we got
Speaker 1: a monster. You get a chicken over there, you think
Speaker 1: it's a pure first I'm in London. I said, your
Speaker 1: cows are sick. He said, no, you're six And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, because you know, I'm used to seeing
Speaker 1: big cows. You ever seen the cow in London. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting skinniest ship found ship. Nah, you're right. Certain certain
Speaker 1: countries they call our food Franken Start food GM food. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they called the Franken Star full look it up. So
Speaker 1: certain things over here a FDA are cleared. They cleared
Speaker 1: certain things that we eat that we should need. Should
Speaker 1: we trust the FDA or no? No, no, okay, he's
Speaker 1: defenditive or not. So let's change it up a little.
Speaker 1: The firm most legendary group one of the legendary groups,
Speaker 1: y'all ever felt like that was an official group. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't have that conversation, Like you gotta understand, I'm
Speaker 1: mentally removed myself from that situation when I was removed
Speaker 1: from it, I removed myself from it mentally. No, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, do you ever think it could have lived
Speaker 1: up to the potential that it could have? Uh? I
Speaker 1: think if it was done properly, it could have been nutty.
Speaker 1: But I think I think Dr Dre was too was
Speaker 1: too modest and humble, because you gotta understand, it was
Speaker 1: a dr J DR dret with school and then track
Speaker 1: masters got involved, so and then there were multiple labels involved.
Speaker 1: So whoever, because you was signed A death dam Fox
Speaker 1: was signed, don't don't don't include me. I wasn't on
Speaker 1: an album, so I don't count. I wasn't on an album.
Speaker 1: I'm not on one song. I'm on Nazi's album. I'm
Speaker 1: want Affirmative Action. It's on it was written, so so
Speaker 1: I'm on the that's the most popular firm song. It's
Speaker 1: the most popular firm so I'm on that. But that's
Speaker 1: on A Nolzie's album, not on the firm out. So
Speaker 1: when the firm Alpum came, I didn't have no input.
Speaker 1: I didn't have no I don't have nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that, So I don't really consider myself a part
Speaker 1: of that, and I don't. I just mexically removed myself
Speaker 1: from when I was removed from it. I removed myself
Speaker 1: from it in a in a good way, like we're
Speaker 1: all still cool. But I was like, alright, cool, I'm
Speaker 1: not a part of that. And and even with my
Speaker 1: career as I moved forward, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the way I stayed like in my own lane, whereas
Speaker 1: I never looked at it as a real group because
Speaker 1: more than a group. Excellent, excellent, because if it's a
Speaker 1: real group. Think about this for a second. Wou Tang
Speaker 1: say somebody from Wuchang comes over the album, you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear people from Wu Tang on that album.
Speaker 1: If stoves P come out of the album, you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear Jaya and she go on it, if she come
Speaker 1: out of Jinks, you know what I'm saying. If she
Speaker 1: comes out of the album, you're gonna hear uh thousand
Speaker 1: kiss on it. You know what I'm saying. So, and
Speaker 1: it's all gonna seem familiar if they all work in unison.
Speaker 1: So we didn't do that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I didn't like I'm not only No, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I don't consider like it was a collective like
Speaker 1: he said, because the group. If it was a group,
Speaker 1: it was like group chemistry, we'd continue working together, but
Speaker 1: we didn't. I was never on nobody's album step Nas
Speaker 1: think about Yeah, So, but how was you an A relationship? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He seems cool. Yeah, you never was on I was
Speaker 1: never on the A C album exactly. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was on one of my before I put them
Speaker 1: on my I put A C on my last album,
Speaker 1: my last album, full album, Mega Philosophy. He's on it.
Speaker 1: Was it weird when you and NAS didn't speak? How
Speaker 1: was you and A's and Foxy's relationship because we didn't
Speaker 1: haven't spoke about Foxy at all once. So how was
Speaker 1: when you and as whatever happened from y'all relationship. Did
Speaker 1: it ever get spicy between like A Z and now?
Speaker 1: It's always cool with everybody. It's just that me as
Speaker 1: a person, I just gave people their space, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I gave I gave A, I gave
Speaker 1: A his face because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: now put them on, so I gotta respect that loyalty.
Speaker 1: So um. But other than that, he was cool, like
Speaker 1: it was like, it's all love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And um, we did shows together, etcetera, cetera. Fox We
Speaker 1: was were tight. So it's like it's never been no,
Speaker 1: there's never been no fallout, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Even I even showed Nature love you know what I'm saying, um,
Speaker 1: um and um. That was that. But I don't I
Speaker 1: really even like he said that was a collective. Is
Speaker 1: it plans for the video for this this record? Well
Speaker 1: I can't really speak on that because that's not protest,
Speaker 1: So I can't say, yeah, well, you know I don't
Speaker 1: like it, man, you never know, I feel like it should. Man,
Speaker 1: it's it's time. Man. It's one of the best, you know,
Speaker 1: fucking uh collaboratives, whatever the fun you want to call it. Um,
Speaker 1: you made history, one of the best. It's one of
Speaker 1: the best unions. And I think it was probably that's
Speaker 1: why when we had Nature here, let make She explained
Speaker 1: that he was not the original group member, but Nature.
Speaker 1: On his Instagram, he put up a different kind of post.
Speaker 1: This is what the people wanted, and you know he
Speaker 1: had a big ended up big enough, no big enough
Speaker 1: himself like oh hold up, what wait wait, put up
Speaker 1: because because on one of these shows, one of these podcasts,
Speaker 1: I mean one of these he was now did they
Speaker 1: asked about him so and then he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what the people wanted. He shouldn't have did that.
Speaker 1: They should have did it. He should have just chilled
Speaker 1: and did it the humble way, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because like that is what causes division. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It makes people be like word and then
Speaker 1: you know, he shouldn't have did it, should have just
Speaker 1: should have just smoothed it in. You know what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just because because I'm a little green
Speaker 1: to this, So can you elaborate a little bit, because
Speaker 1: I don't under I don't understand. So what he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have made no noise like that because he should have
Speaker 1: just been calm and smooth about it and let let
Speaker 1: things fall into place, because when you do things like that,
Speaker 1: then it and it leaves people to be divisive or
Speaker 1: people be like word word or exact. They could create riffs.
Speaker 1: So it so it seems like that he was against that.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether because on your show. He seems
Speaker 1: to sad. He see that, he seems to sid But
Speaker 1: his post, his post was like troll, like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And it's like on your show he
Speaker 1: said he happy for Mega. So but in your post
Speaker 1: you didn't say that. You just said you know what
Speaker 1: I said. So it's like you don't leave it up
Speaker 1: for people. They sell as when you look at me,
Speaker 1: when look you notice nobody asks what with you in nature?
Speaker 1: Because I made it known that I'm cool with him.
Speaker 1: I put him on one of my albums, and there's
Speaker 1: nobody asked me about him the more as far as
Speaker 1: a riff because I made sure people see that. So
Speaker 1: if you're funk with somebody, funk with them. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think that's just a cool dude. I just think
Speaker 1: you man, Yeah, I think he's a cool dude. Shout
Speaker 1: out to nature, shout out to his bro um and uh.
Speaker 1: I just think he should have handled that different. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes we all need Uh. You think do you
Speaker 1: think I baited him? No, you be asking one question
Speaker 1: that was a slight babe, but he didn't go for that.
Speaker 1: When I asked him to quote the line. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: only reason when I asked the quote the line I'm like,
Speaker 1: just do this to you face to face. It's because
Speaker 1: I remember them taking your name out, Oh say my
Speaker 1: name and the record nor stars for ship. But that's
Speaker 1: the only reason why I just wanted to establish that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: Mean this is history and that ship is so old.
Speaker 1: Like at the end of the day, I'm over it.
Speaker 1: Like I'm so over that ship. Like me and nature
Speaker 1: is cool. I haven't, Like I look back at that ship,
Speaker 1: like what yo, listen, I showed nature so much luve
Speaker 1: the only thing I never had no issue with with nature.
Speaker 1: Only issue I have with nature recently. It's not even
Speaker 1: a major issue. It's just like a where do we stand? Bro?
Speaker 1: Like is you my bro? Or is you not? Like
Speaker 1: because um, when I came out with see this is
Speaker 1: the thing about Queen's Bridge, all the rappers and and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna include you because you're a part of the movement.
Speaker 1: There's a thing called mutualism. I love this word. Oh,
Speaker 1: we have to all be mutually benefitial to top movement
Speaker 1: because the stronger we are, the stronger everyone is. So
Speaker 1: I'll be looking sometimes I see things and I don't
Speaker 1: even get mad. Sometimes it hurts. It hurts. It's like
Speaker 1: hurts or offends me. Maybe heard is a better word.
Speaker 1: It just makes me feel like damn am along, Like
Speaker 1: who's really with me? Because it's like like I support everybody.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm wanta drink Champs now,
Speaker 1: but when drink Champ was new, when when you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I came on the show and you
Speaker 1: didn't even have to ask me twice. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then it's like you my phone, my
Speaker 1: my number is always open for you to talk or
Speaker 1: for advice or for whatever input wherever. And you gave
Speaker 1: me my best compliment ever. That's my favorite compliment ever
Speaker 1: when you said you learning on the job, but you
Speaker 1: win it. Yeah, thinking no, I'm just saying. So the
Speaker 1: problem with Queen's Bridge Artist is every a lot of
Speaker 1: people have a go go every man for him self mentality,
Speaker 1: and that hurts the bottom line because if everybody's going
Speaker 1: for theirselfs, I'm gonna be I regardless because I'm good.
Speaker 1: So the people that's good, it's gonna be good. But
Speaker 1: the people that ain't good they're gonna suffer the most,
Speaker 1: so being being for self, it's gonna hurt you, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna hurt you in a negative way. One that's
Speaker 1: gonna help you because if if, if everybody's moving as one,
Speaker 1: then we win in So it's like why so like
Speaker 1: and I can name every like. I came out of
Speaker 1: my EP having posted it right the mega EP. I
Speaker 1: came out with it twice, so I did one limited
Speaker 1: version and I stopped it. I just did that like
Speaker 1: for the fans, right, I put it out having having
Speaker 1: posted on his page shout out to having even Capone
Speaker 1: posted it. I was like, okay, so I d M nature,
Speaker 1: I said, yo, post my arm, post my joint, and
Speaker 1: I got you when your joint comes out, you know what,
Speaker 1: sounding like we just gotta we gotta show each other love.
Speaker 1: And then that ship just said seeing m yea no
Speaker 1: because I'm just doing I'm trying to. I'm just selling
Speaker 1: it out. I'm just I shouldn't have to because you
Speaker 1: know that's rare. But you know what, Listen, I told
Speaker 1: this a couple of my friends, oh this weekend, Like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be a better friend, trying to be
Speaker 1: a better person. So sometimes I would like you to
Speaker 1: tell me if this is something that you don't thinking
Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm not saying that I'm pointing to you
Speaker 1: right now, but I'm telling this to all my friends
Speaker 1: if this is something that you want me to be.
Speaker 1: The thing is, sometimes I'm so busy. I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: there in pinpointing anything. But I want everyone in this
Speaker 1: room to know I like to be a better friend.
Speaker 1: I want you. I want to be your best friend.
Speaker 1: Like I want you to sit there and say, that's
Speaker 1: one of my best friends right there, because I know
Speaker 1: I'm one of the best people in the world. So
Speaker 1: if my immediate people don't know that I'm fucking up,
Speaker 1: I ain't got that it's gonna be your worst friending
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be your worst thing. I'm gonna be this.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be my friend. But you know I'm
Speaker 1: saying that you've got more notes. I respect you. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I might might but no, but but you know what
Speaker 1: you're saying is not It couldn't be just a Queensbridge problem.
Speaker 1: That's a national problem. That's a's not worry about everybody
Speaker 1: I'm worried about. That's what most of our society and
Speaker 1: know what's what's pervasive in our the world right now.
Speaker 1: But that's really irrelevant to what you're saying is right,
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about and wrapped with our When I
Speaker 1: look at Ultang, I look at Queenbridge. If if if
Speaker 1: you gotta come out sign, Ray Crown is posting it.
Speaker 1: If Ray Carn come out with something expected, Deck is
Speaker 1: posting it. But it's a movement. Queenrid is a movement.
Speaker 1: That word empathy is really big, bro, And that's that's
Speaker 1: when you put yourself with somebody else's shoes. So you
Speaker 1: gotta before you get mad at people, you have to
Speaker 1: weigh every option. Like maybe at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I'll respect every artist. And the bigger you are, the
Speaker 1: more busier you're gonna be. So if you think Norris
Speaker 1: just sitting around waiting for you to text him to
Speaker 1: promote your ship, you bugging because he's an artist and
Speaker 1: he's a he's an entrepreneur right now, you think he
Speaker 1: purposely ignoredes. I think people. I think people don't really
Speaker 1: respect rap or they don't really respect what we do
Speaker 1: because the videos and ship make it look so easy.
Speaker 1: They don't realize all the ship that we do, and
Speaker 1: then we live your life too because we have a family.
Speaker 1: You have a family, We have family too. We don't
Speaker 1: just wrap or do what we do. And in free
Speaker 1: time we have to cook dinner too, and we have
Speaker 1: families and we have regular ship we gotta do. Plus
Speaker 1: we have lit business, so we be busy. But people
Speaker 1: don't see that, Oh you're acting funny or sons acting different,
Speaker 1: na everything. Everything that's life. That's progression. I'm I'm adapting
Speaker 1: to new ship. So if you don't contact me, I'm
Speaker 1: not a mind reader, so I'm not gonna know what's
Speaker 1: in your mind. But if you contact me and say, yo,
Speaker 1: can you do this and I don't do it, then
Speaker 1: you can get upset. But maybe you can't get upset
Speaker 1: because it's really up to us. Don't always try and
Speaker 1: get high every episode. It never happens. It's really up
Speaker 1: to us to decide what we want to do. Like,
Speaker 1: people gotta stop trying to guilt trip people into make
Speaker 1: it like success is nothing to feel guilty about. And
Speaker 1: people gotta stop trying to make it seem like they're entitled.
Speaker 1: There that sense of entitlement pushes people away because people
Speaker 1: will act like you gotta keep it real. But keep
Speaker 1: it real isn't one of the things where you conform
Speaker 1: it to benefit yourself. Keep it real, keeping it real.
Speaker 1: If Nory's busy and nor he's taking care of his
Speaker 1: wife and his family, and he's doing what he's supposed
Speaker 1: to do for his life and for his legacy, he's
Speaker 1: fucking keeping it real. God damn so. So a lot
Speaker 1: of times people they take things too personal without your communication.
Speaker 1: That communication, If you're not communicating, ship is gonna be
Speaker 1: funked up. We live, we're living in an information era.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have social media. You see so much ship
Speaker 1: in the flick of overhead, So so are we supposed
Speaker 1: to remember that? Like you're telling him that this dude
Speaker 1: does a show every week and he does he's record
Speaker 1: and he's doing she's doing this, like everybody's busy. Like
Speaker 1: I really write my music. So when I'm writing my music,
Speaker 1: I'm into that. I'm picking beats, I'm yo, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the custodial parent. That means I'm home every day with
Speaker 1: my daughter. You know what I'm saying. Like I speak
Speaker 1: to teachers, I do laundry, I do regular ship too.
Speaker 1: So it's like I write my music, I design close,
Speaker 1: I write books. I do so I'm not sitting around
Speaker 1: ignoring you. It's like I'm busy like people is busy.
Speaker 1: So I don't get too caught up in people's emotions
Speaker 1: because that's their emotion. They there and tied it to
Speaker 1: their emotions. But don't don't overwhelm me with your expectation.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I'm not. I'm gonna name a couple
Speaker 1: of things. You tell me what this means to you. Okay, ready,
Speaker 1: I love that. That was only cute the realness my
Speaker 1: first album. That was That was me. Um, that was
Speaker 1: me exceiling. That was me after being held back and
Speaker 1: after me being held back, that was me just letting
Speaker 1: it all out. A proud moment for me. Is it? Oh?
Speaker 1: The true meaning? True, true meaning, true meaning. One of
Speaker 1: the most impactful independent albums in history. First independent album
Speaker 1: to get a Source Award, m I got a SOD
Speaker 1: I'm the first. Also fucking calling Busyo tomorrow, UM shift
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand, but it did more a glance. We
Speaker 1: didn't old money to everybody. UM show growth, show growth,
Speaker 1: the diversity of the album. UM gotta impact. Underground Music
Speaker 1: Awards gave me an Impact Award for the most Impact
Speaker 1: on the underground. So the album was like a stellar
Speaker 1: like Stella Stellar Achievement album. Mhm. The Testament. Testament would
Speaker 1: have been my first album. Adversity, Adversity and Obstacles, Um
Speaker 1: for something I'm proud of, Worn and Race, born and Raised. Arguably,
Speaker 1: sometimes I think that's my best album. Um, the fans
Speaker 1: gonna take this person. They gotta if you really, I
Speaker 1: think sometimes I think that's my best album. I think
Speaker 1: that album boring Race can stand told to told with
Speaker 1: any of my albums. Um. That's the first album I
Speaker 1: recorded with Premier. My song Making Clears on there, my
Speaker 1: song Dirty Game is on there, the song Journey with
Speaker 1: Lord Professors on their UM, the song with Pete Rocket
Speaker 1: is on it. I got a song called Rapture on there,
Speaker 1: where I had told her that's crazy. Um, I think
Speaker 1: that's one of my deep I think at one point
Speaker 1: that was my favorite album. I don't know it's it's definitely.
Speaker 1: I think that's my most underrated album, Race for sure. Okay,
Speaker 1: Mega's Philosophy, Mega produced My Lost Professor and I think
Speaker 1: even Hazard. It sounds mixed a couple of joints has
Speaker 1: it sounds? Has it it sounds? Mixed the entire album?
Speaker 1: Oh okay um that has it? Lord Professor gave me,
Speaker 1: gave me my props from the album. Has it set
Speaker 1: something today? Before you got here? He's like, Lord Professor
Speaker 1: told me on that album you became a producer Mega,
Speaker 1: because we finished the album ourselves without Law Professor. Law
Speaker 1: Professor was gone and I needed that album out, so
Speaker 1: I added some of the instrumentation. I added love of
Speaker 1: instrumentation to some of the songs. What does the instrumentation mean?
Speaker 1: It means like real musicians like Saxophone want a lot
Speaker 1: of the people like me. You know, that's special education.
Speaker 1: Some of the sequences, yea, the extra sounds. There's a
Speaker 1: song called more when I'm talking about people of color,
Speaker 1: added some kind of call not like that, but I'll
Speaker 1: see where you're going. I added like, uh, congas congos
Speaker 1: in there. That's for like the Cubans and and the
Speaker 1: other Latin brothers that are that are from our culture.
Speaker 1: So I personally added that in he knows. So that
Speaker 1: album is when I I really like Law Professor, Mega,
Speaker 1: you became a producer on that album. So that album
Speaker 1: was my comeback album. That album charted. But then and
Speaker 1: then right after that, you hit Hit the Mega produced
Speaker 1: by the street Runner street Runner. Yeah, right, yeah. Street
Speaker 1: Runner is a beautiful human being. He's a humble giant,
Speaker 1: incredible producer. He's a great producer, but he's a humble giant.
Speaker 1: You've got a guy that works with like platinum artists,
Speaker 1: gold artists, so all the time, and he made time
Speaker 1: for me and he was a big fan. But he
Speaker 1: didn't just say it in his action showed he showed it. So, um,
Speaker 1: I'm greatly appreciative to street Runner for that. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's loose two compilations. You also had Legal Hustle Forever,
Speaker 1: rolf Ever don't count. That don't count now, ro Forever
Speaker 1: doesn't count Forever. It's just like pretty much the best
Speaker 1: of Mega and on I put suit two discs in there.
Speaker 1: I put one CD disc was like the best of Mega,
Speaker 1: so it would be like the best of Mega mixtape,
Speaker 1: and then the other disc was pretty much me doing
Speaker 1: over some of my songs. Listen, as you say disc,
Speaker 1: they're like, what are easy talking about? So one like yeah,
Speaker 1: So basically one disc was the best off and the
Speaker 1: other disc was me doing songs over with a lot
Speaker 1: of band So that was just the best stuff. So
Speaker 1: I don't count that as a project and I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 1: I'll probably stop um release of that soon. That was
Speaker 1: like something for the fans. That's the beautiful thing. But
Speaker 1: only stuff you could do what you want. You can
Speaker 1: do what you want. Legal hustle though, that was one
Speaker 1: of my I think that was one of the That
Speaker 1: was one of the top independent compilations ever too. Uh
Speaker 1: you think about it, that album like for me that
Speaker 1: I've never been on the major label. I look at
Speaker 1: the yo. That album made jacka national my man, Jack
Speaker 1: of God blessed today by every legend. He was just
Speaker 1: a local rapper and I said, Yo, I'm gonna make you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you like worldwide. Bro. I got real
Speaker 1: close with jacka too. You'll never ain't nobody in the
Speaker 1: bag say mega's that arrogant. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You see your post when um when he when he
Speaker 1: passed away her And that's what I'm saying, Like I'll
Speaker 1: be losing like I'll be close with people. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not not. Yo. Yeah he was already that was he
Speaker 1: was cool. Now I'm talking about close like tears, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So Jack, Jack come to
Speaker 1: New York. We stay in the same hotel like he
Speaker 1: when I'm in the Bay, we stay in the same
Speaker 1: hotel like like he's sleep in my room. Like he'll
Speaker 1: pull out the pull out couch. I gotta sweet. He's
Speaker 1: like we was like cousins. Yo. You know some people
Speaker 1: actually thought with his cousins. So when I did the
Speaker 1: Legal Hustle of compilation album, that was an album gonna
Speaker 1: love this. I did the Legal Hustle compilation album because
Speaker 1: I was trying to help people get on and um.
Speaker 1: That was one of the projects. I did two projects
Speaker 1: where I was trying to help other people. And that
Speaker 1: also says a lot about my character because when I
Speaker 1: did these two albums, it was time for me to
Speaker 1: come out of the album. My fans wanted the mega album,
Speaker 1: and I gave him these projects. So I got lucky
Speaker 1: with Legal Hustle because it was a good album to
Speaker 1: the people, and it helped introduce JACKA. That's the first
Speaker 1: album Mano was on. You know what I'm saying. He's
Speaker 1: on the song called Monsters ball um and Uh I
Speaker 1: had that's the first song think with MLP, ghost Face
Speaker 1: Body did. Um. It was just it was just a
Speaker 1: compilation helping me and I had new artists on there,
Speaker 1: and all the new artists that that I had on there,
Speaker 1: I planned on signing them, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I was basically trying to build something to help people,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's why I did Legal
Speaker 1: Hustle and I mixed it with with Dope features. Out
Speaker 1: of your relationship with Punt Me and Pump was tight. Um.
Speaker 1: That was my guy. Um humble, dude love. He's a gangster.
Speaker 1: He's a tourist squad gangster. As you know because you
Speaker 1: know him. The dude love guns, love talking about guns. Um.
Speaker 1: One of the womanst people. Punt of me at the
Speaker 1: table right now eating. You walk in, He's gonna yo,
Speaker 1: He's gonna invite you to his meal, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Loves rap, passionate about rap. If you did
Speaker 1: a song that he's like, he'll tell you your verse
Speaker 1: or he'll want to hear something like yo to me.
Speaker 1: Year's another cool dude. Many value. No, we never never
Speaker 1: tried about but he always said something like always wanted
Speaker 1: to impress me. But we never, he never tried about it.
Speaker 1: He was that type. Yeah, say something like you're ready,
Speaker 1: like you're cool. You know, he bullied his way with
Speaker 1: bad TV. He wasn't supposed to be on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard that story. I was dope. We are. We
Speaker 1: got one joint it was it was a it was
Speaker 1: a song, but the song never came out, but it
Speaker 1: leaked on on a on a mixtape or something. You
Speaker 1: Me and Pine, But I wish he was a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm the first person I did something with her son. Yeah, Chris,
Speaker 1: Chris is on the um what's the other church? Your name? Bro? Forever?
Speaker 1: I put him on there. Yeah, So it was like
Speaker 1: I did something with his son because I felt I
Speaker 1: felt obligated, and I helped his wife when she was
Speaker 1: doing UMU the sneaker thing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Talk about your you and deal you got like to
Speaker 1: you and Deals seven. I did two joints with them.
Speaker 1: You gotta do You did a fuel, I like a
Speaker 1: poem one rock. Okay, we got champs as well. Let's
Speaker 1: go somewhere else where are we going? Loud Records Records?
Speaker 1: Last week? Now, let's talk about the new project. The
Speaker 1: new project, the new Project Mega or the next one
Speaker 1: that's coming up. The next one's coming up, next Mega,
Speaker 1: Well Mega's out now. Oh ship, that's the one with
Speaker 1: the black blue, black barrown. It got like a moon
Speaker 1: in it. She gluten this on their havocs on the
Speaker 1: only two features. You're a coleptic um um. I think
Speaker 1: it's a dope, Am, it's a vibe. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you heard it because you're a busy man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even hear my own ship. But you heard it. No,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet. I don't hear pros. I
Speaker 1: wish I had that out to play if I know.
Speaker 1: Do you got a new record? Do you want to
Speaker 1: prevare this right now? You got some maga joints has
Speaker 1: come on? Release it up. We're gonna PIU right. We
Speaker 1: gotta do it. Since we were talking about Punt Speaker,
Speaker 1: let's speak. Since we're talking about Punt, I'll give y'all
Speaker 1: unreleased joint when I'm spitting some balls that Punt would appreciate.
Speaker 1: Gets a boss song, a boss song because I do
Speaker 1: that too. We had a ball too. We got racket.
Speaker 1: You got it. Let's go, baby, as I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie you're making us matter fact. You turn up your
Speaker 1: mind turn up yeah, yea yeah, your mega let him
Speaker 1: have you. This is true fic domination. Our fuse dudes
Speaker 1: who trying to play me booze because I'm crazy and
Speaker 1: moved with the triangle fall back when I come through
Speaker 1: a Mike bang it except me and Mike creates a
Speaker 1: tight situations like it's a heavy burden for nicks with
Speaker 1: light paper, but he with race. You to try to
Speaker 1: take it to how jases like when a rama rabbits
Speaker 1: are facing annihilation for thinking you close to me lyrically,
Speaker 1: I give you the poke and see you can only
Speaker 1: get from coach I leave. Who's a post to freeze
Speaker 1: when lines hit you like Patia attacking, I'm a sucker
Speaker 1: for roasting feast. Press your hopes and dreams. Okay, sleep
Speaker 1: restless interrupted by the breeze of voters weez the coach
Speaker 1: sweat make you soak the sheet, My ship go hard?
Speaker 1: How the pen like work re least for better or
Speaker 1: work and see her deal with adversity. Since I was young,
Speaker 1: which was a blessing and curse to me, lessons I
Speaker 1: learned when deepa has diversity, be reflecting their killer instincts
Speaker 1: or I'm murdered beast, so put them on light support
Speaker 1: whenever the mics on them. Feel like a sniper on
Speaker 1: a mission. I'm striking you unite to come with tight
Speaker 1: the power of speed and agility. I terrifying a stoutish
Speaker 1: for d capability. Saying you willis me is a complete
Speaker 1: waste of energy. My name rigged from the street to
Speaker 1: stay facility. It takes humility, face of time and skill.
Speaker 1: Be a real up still then you can pretell you
Speaker 1: me that are playing yourself consistently live your dream from
Speaker 1: covera tick the floor pizzas some expressive jeez. I'm in
Speaker 1: it to win it, but prepared mentally. It's clear my
Speaker 1: skills are rare find of history. Will mention me is
Speaker 1: one of the nicest Lyrically, my high intensity right and
Speaker 1: ability roubles any king pound from pay Mike found around
Speaker 1: really d swatting my staff like humility, you really need
Speaker 1: to set your ass down when you can't. But real
Speaker 1: niggers speak even if you broke pay attention to me.
Speaker 1: I couldn't see passed the building from the bench in
Speaker 1: the peace till I was willing to change America. Stand
Speaker 1: in the way of my further display came from a
Speaker 1: slug of brothers that ain't that folds yet your own
Speaker 1: friends are murky for way now the power wisdom and
Speaker 1: to learn from mistakes, so to seek and learning turn
Speaker 1: weakness of trap keeping it real has been replaced by
Speaker 1: keeping it fake and success it Yes more th for
Speaker 1: people who make it. The sweet of the taste, the
Speaker 1: deeper the hate of the venoment. Will niggas be on
Speaker 1: that snaketion don't need to embrace them stink and be
Speaker 1: fat and will leave you and your people in day
Speaker 1: It fun trying to maintain. I proceeded to make more
Speaker 1: because lot of rabbit click out things they ain't do
Speaker 1: you want to welcome my shoes, don't forget those take
Speaker 1: clothes I paid duets. Perhaps you better, I wrapper stated
Speaker 1: the taptats for those who subtract. Ever the greatest lot
Speaker 1: of table ver sold and black and difference from Latin
Speaker 1: and factotistics. Y'all people pack in prison. I'm a different
Speaker 1: club for real nigga who rapper lific listeners a witnesses
Speaker 1: still a lyrical captivism coma Gyptics and your but like
Speaker 1: Brandon Jinn, it sishon ain't gonna. I know how to
Speaker 1: handle critics. Didn't know what had it in me. Now
Speaker 1: they feel me like a freezing windows Eerie knocks up
Speaker 1: with Driven like a seller series. Another word funk with
Speaker 1: you heard respectus to hearing incredible lyrics severally written Megican
Speaker 1: fit fire. You trying to tell y'all, old funker man,
Speaker 1: this cold motherfucking metals like there was my all these
Speaker 1: nonbelievers men still love the game? Do I still love
Speaker 1: the game? I still love the art. I don't love
Speaker 1: the bullshit the politics. I love the fans. I love
Speaker 1: the art. I don't love the politics and the nonsense
Speaker 1: everything else. When I'm on stage, like like you being around,
Speaker 1: I could be the quietest person in the crab, but
Speaker 1: when I get on stage is something. It just does
Speaker 1: something to me. I love that feeling or being on stage,
Speaker 1: and I love creating rhyms and like pushing myself to
Speaker 1: uh to outdo myself and um not live off the
Speaker 1: past strength. Like at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: like having a I love being underrated. That's my secret
Speaker 1: because when you underrated, people know you're good, but some
Speaker 1: people aren't. You aren't getting the credit you deserve and
Speaker 1: as long as I'm underrated, that's gonna make me go harder.
Speaker 1: So it's like one thing I say about myself, like
Speaker 1: whenever I'm on a song, whenever I do a feature
Speaker 1: on somebody's project, I try to shine. And there's different
Speaker 1: ways to shine that artists need to learn. It ain't
Speaker 1: all about trying to outdo somebody in the song. You
Speaker 1: can shine without trying to outdo somebody. Just make the
Speaker 1: song good. So it's like, say what you want about me.
Speaker 1: But every single song that I'm on with a with
Speaker 1: a Dope Artist is one of the highlights of that album,
Speaker 1: A front of Action. It was h and I see
Speaker 1: that song, Um three, I'm on the bench, how eating
Speaker 1: Checker Wings or French Fries? Mark Deep Murder Music, What's
Speaker 1: Your Poison? High Technology album? The High Tech album? All
Speaker 1: I need is you? Um, I'm not even thinking hard
Speaker 1: like every you know what I'm saying every time I'm
Speaker 1: on the show Disease Disease. That's that album is beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful album. So it's like when I'm on the song,
Speaker 1: I just try to stand out. I don't try to outshine.
Speaker 1: So when the NAS called you, he didn't say that
Speaker 1: this is a firm record or did he say that. Well,
Speaker 1: like I said, we didn't talk about that. Once we
Speaker 1: started talking about the record, then it wasn't We didn't
Speaker 1: know what it was gonna be like until until we
Speaker 1: got everybody on it, because originally that would have been
Speaker 1: a naza Azy song. That was gonna be anaza As
Speaker 1: record originally. Yeah, so you're saying he wasn't even sure
Speaker 1: if he could get everybody on it, or maybe that
Speaker 1: wasn't even a thought. That wasn't even really good thought.
Speaker 1: It's like, sometimes you're doing something you just want to
Speaker 1: take it, take it somewhere extra, like you know what,
Speaker 1: it'd be great if we could do this, add this
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, so that's what happened with that. That
Speaker 1: was a nasa As record. And so when you got Diverses,
Speaker 1: you had na I didn't have nobody's first. That's the
Speaker 1: thing about it. That's what made it so dope. And
Speaker 1: I had to really create my I had to create
Speaker 1: my own what's the subject matter? It's about this? So
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool, I vibed out.
Speaker 1: I thought about how a z rap, I thought about
Speaker 1: how everybody raps, and then you you um, took Foxy.
Speaker 1: You didn't know Foxy could possibly be on this as well.
Speaker 1: I'm the one. I'm not on contact down, so I
Speaker 1: know if she was gonna be on my side. I said,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about hold on a minute. So when
Speaker 1: you got contacted, that's when you said, I'm gonna I
Speaker 1: got Foxy too. Well I'm not. I think I'm the
Speaker 1: only one who had a number or something like that.
Speaker 1: I got our number two. Fuck it, so continue drops.
Speaker 1: So like yo, at the end of the day, nas
Speaker 1: Nas gets all the credit for that song because this credit.
Speaker 1: He gets credit for that song for a lot of reasons,
Speaker 1: from from humility standpoint, like think about this for a second.
Speaker 1: A lot of people when they have differences with somebody,
Speaker 1: even when you eat, when you squats, the differences like
Speaker 1: all right, cool, that ship is over. But you know
Speaker 1: you know so. But he like, all right, that ship
Speaker 1: is over. I'm putting my guy on the song. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He didn't have to do that,
Speaker 1: especially at this point in his career. So for him
Speaker 1: to say, like who you are, come on, I gotta
Speaker 1: pick you up. I can't say that, but go ahead, continue.
Speaker 1: I like your aeologies now I'm just saying, that's what
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying all of us, Like I like
Speaker 1: that an example. He set the tone, he set an example,
Speaker 1: and it's like, um, that's what I'm like. People just
Speaker 1: gotta be humble, Like that's all I'm saying. Like Nature,
Speaker 1: that's why I wrote the thing on my on my
Speaker 1: my Instagram and it was in Nature. Text me and
Speaker 1: said thank you because I wrote some real ship. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the song wasn't done to exclude Nature,
Speaker 1: was thought out all and there's you know, there's no
Speaker 1: there's no be for him or nobody has ill feelings
Speaker 1: to talk him in anything. They just it went full circle.
Speaker 1: Did nobody said there's a firm album coming they might
Speaker 1: not be nothing. You know what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 1: it's like a moment. Yeah, He's how non started, is
Speaker 1: how he wanted. You know what I'm saying. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, what he does is what he does.
Speaker 1: It's him, you know what I'm saying. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, like no rapper has the relationship
Speaker 1: that me and him got, Nobody could take that away,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like we grew up together.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I got letters from
Speaker 1: him when I was in jail. He wasn't you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he wrote me when I was
Speaker 1: in jail, Like you know, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we don't. We donet did a lot of ship together.
Speaker 1: We laughed, we cried like we mourned the same people,
Speaker 1: we cheered for the same people we have even when
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, even when even when, even when,
Speaker 1: even when we had issues, even when we had issues,
Speaker 1: like you couldn't come to me, like you're about to
Speaker 1: do something to him, you know what I'm saying, it
Speaker 1: would have been a problem for you, or like if
Speaker 1: you if you talk about me like people talk about
Speaker 1: me the nas you think you think he ain't gonna
Speaker 1: tell me, Like you know what I'm saying, even even
Speaker 1: when it wasn't cool, And it's like, uh so, it's
Speaker 1: like sometimes you need sometimes you realize how important somebody
Speaker 1: is to you when you go through adversity. And I
Speaker 1: never realized how important it was to the fans for
Speaker 1: me and him like to do something. And it's crazy.
Speaker 1: The craziest thing is me and him have never done
Speaker 1: a song with just me and him that should proably
Speaker 1: break the internet. Bro, there's no song with just man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like we never
Speaker 1: realized it, but then we started realizing that when we
Speaker 1: seen an impact, like when we got together at the
Speaker 1: show reunion and people were screaming, going crazy like I've
Speaker 1: never seen no ship like that, And I was like wow,
Speaker 1: and he was like wow, and he's seen more than me.
Speaker 1: He's he's you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 1: just so you know, I texted him twenty seconds later
Speaker 1: he said, uh, kind of FaceTime with a mean he
Speaker 1: asks to do this. Yeah, that's my guy. Man, that's
Speaker 1: my guy. That's real ship. That's like, listen, I'll be
Speaker 1: chastising him, but he asked. He said, you got Meca today,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know that's beautiful. That's let's
Speaker 1: make some noise of notes. Come on, he said, is
Speaker 1: it is? Megan ready? So you got no the most
Speaker 1: compared guests we've ever had. Let me tell you some y.
Speaker 1: I came home on the pill with no lawyer. So
Speaker 1: you're talking about you know what I'm saying. Time back,
Speaker 1: I'm prepared, bro, but especially like if I'm right, if
Speaker 1: I know him right, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I'm right, if I'm wrong, then I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: it in and I'll be like, you know what, he's right.
Speaker 1: But if you're painting a picture of me that's inconsistent
Speaker 1: off you. If you're wrong about something, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come prepared. And I we're talking about particular situation,
Speaker 1: like that's why I can't prepared to this, because I
Speaker 1: knew you just gonna bring up certain things. And I remember,
Speaker 1: like when you think of all the stigmas associated with
Speaker 1: my name, it never came from me. It came from
Speaker 1: other people. Or when you think of how you said
Speaker 1: when you when you think about it, like damn, why
Speaker 1: didn't not like Mega? Or why didn't Mega not like me?
Speaker 1: When I never e said that. Somebody else told you
Speaker 1: I don't like you, just like somebody told me, no,
Speaker 1: we don't like you. I never know, And I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: it's strong, you know me. I'm very vocal. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm transparent. If I like you, I've told you,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been giving you a look. I'm like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And we did a lot
Speaker 1: of ship together and there's there's been funny situations and
Speaker 1: real situations. Just like you know the DJ. Remember the
Speaker 1: DJ you get from the pass and then do you
Speaker 1: remember man? We should do the DJ. Man in the world,
Speaker 1: every DJ, he feels like he gotta protect you, gotta
Speaker 1: say no name. But I'm just saying, like Noah, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad, like I'm glad with all of us is
Speaker 1: at in life because you know why, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people doing bad. That's what I'm saying. And that's why,
Speaker 1: um that brings me, that makes me humble. That ship, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's a COVID. I didn't do that one show this
Speaker 1: year and I'm good, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like yeah, because you know why they need to Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like dudes, like dudes, dudes just hitting me like yo,
Speaker 1: I forgot this company to contacted me recently. It's probably
Speaker 1: my DM. He's like, Yo, we wanted to sign you
Speaker 1: up and they said this autist is down, this autist
Speaker 1: is down. You do like video drop for fans and
Speaker 1: you charged them. I'm like, no, I'll do that ship
Speaker 1: for free from my fans. You know I'm saying I'm
Speaker 1: not trying. Cameo camera, Cameo do came I'm the paper,
Speaker 1: all my parents, I'm sorry, mag I got let me
Speaker 1: put you on like listen, listen. It was great. I
Speaker 1: feel bad doing that. I do. Listen listen. All the
Speaker 1: medals where I go out to you, I've never paid
Speaker 1: for them in my life. Cameos paid for everything. Cameos
Speaker 1: are great fucking company, But you gotta charge fans to
Speaker 1: talk to them. Dave chars to fans. I ain't charge, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just I can't. I just feel dirty doing
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I mean, you
Speaker 1: got that's the old school ship. Listen, listen. School man
Speaker 1: don't want me all just sill do camer to be
Speaker 1: and still do what he's doing for the fans. You
Speaker 1: can still like it could be no hired tier, but
Speaker 1: they ask you to do on camera. This is old
Speaker 1: people from everywhere, and they just say hey, they already
Speaker 1: they say, hey, I already paid, They already prepaid. They're
Speaker 1: into it. How are you? How are you not taking
Speaker 1: their bread? Because money ain't good money to me. I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like I've been doing that for free.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that for free thing. So it's a
Speaker 1: different era though we're living in a different era right now.
Speaker 1: They're pre paying just a talk yo, Like you're not
Speaker 1: gonna say if someone says hits you up, say yo
Speaker 1: your birthday. You're not gonna do that something. You got
Speaker 1: Rock number? Dudes, can you call Rock please? I know
Speaker 1: you got his number. He's something yo. I called some
Speaker 1: of my fans literally called them like happy birthday. Watch
Speaker 1: it that sto. I went to a show watching This
Speaker 1: is why I wanted to give my brother. This is
Speaker 1: my brother Deuce Heat called Butch Rock watch the I
Speaker 1: literally yo, he's yo, yo, Yo, all right, I got you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold it down on the most ver this
Speaker 1: drop ever shot. But you've been up with Bush, but
Speaker 1: it's pretas what's the most over this drop? You ever
Speaker 1: see me? Do? I had a shout out of baby
Speaker 1: what the nigger said to me? Yeah? I just had
Speaker 1: a baby. That's cool. A Maria, what's up y'all? You're good? Yo, Yo, nigga,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm trying to tell you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you get me done with you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't feel right doing it. Think it
Speaker 1: made me shout at the baby. So I just feel
Speaker 1: when doing that because I feel like everything in my
Speaker 1: life has been given to me by these fans, Like
Speaker 1: my lifestyle, it's been given to me by these fans.
Speaker 1: I expect that. Um, like this shirt I got on,
Speaker 1: these pants somewearing came from fans money. It's like they
Speaker 1: paid my bills, you know. That's what Trash said. Trash
Speaker 1: said that's how he got hit. We get different bodies
Speaker 1: though different cards. Trying trying to JUSTIZI got to continue.
Speaker 1: Um I got that, can stay. I could stay two weeks. Money,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. Let me continue, That's
Speaker 1: what I can say. Now, let me let me stop
Speaker 1: sucking rap. But um, my fans are given me so much.
Speaker 1: Some my fans are given me so much. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: actually feel like, damn, is this really how it feels like? YO,
Speaker 1: like to wake up and be like wow, my my, my,
Speaker 1: Like my bills just paid, Like everything is my fans
Speaker 1: did this by the grace of God and my fans.
Speaker 1: So it's like I just feel with charging them for
Speaker 1: something when they pay for everything else with YO. When
Speaker 1: I did the U and sneakers originally, I never wore
Speaker 1: your sneakers in my fucking life. When I originally did
Speaker 1: this sneaker, I did it because it was a challenge,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I said, let me see
Speaker 1: if I could do it. Like if I I made it,
Speaker 1: I liked it. Fans boarded up. So I made a book.
Speaker 1: Fans everything I do, they buy it. I mean clothes,
Speaker 1: they buy it. So it's like, damn, I feel like
Speaker 1: I owed them something because they you gotta you gotta figure.
Speaker 1: We've been in a COVID, right how many I don't know,
Speaker 1: for whatever a matter of month it was we was
Speaker 1: in the COVID, and during the COVID. During the COVID,
Speaker 1: I've been like, I haven't done that one show. I
Speaker 1: turned down no exaggeration. I can show you in my joint.
Speaker 1: I probably turned down like thirty features to ship. Do
Speaker 1: we believe it? Because your notice remarkable? Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: so so. But I'm still sustained, Like think about it.
Speaker 1: I quote when you when we quote, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, what's what's what's what's clear? And I
Speaker 1: just came out here it was like, like it's really
Speaker 1: like all of this ship is from fans this so
Speaker 1: they're taking care of me. It's like I'm doing my
Speaker 1: part and they're doing their part. So I I just
Speaker 1: feel weird charging them for a drop after they've done
Speaker 1: so much for me. Like I got my whole I
Speaker 1: renovated my whole house during the COVID. I got all
Speaker 1: new floors and everything. No, cap I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't sell drugs. So I just feel like I old,
Speaker 1: I really cared about my fans. Yo, I cried on this.
Speaker 1: I cried on the stage in Boston before you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I cried because because they loved me
Speaker 1: so much. And it's like, bro, I defied the odds.
Speaker 1: Nor I defied the odds. Bro. I like I debuted
Speaker 1: in the nineties and I'm still here right now. If
Speaker 1: I say, yo, I got an album coming out in
Speaker 1: the summer, people do get excited. My last album fucking charted.
Speaker 1: It was like number twenty four in the completely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's like this ship is a blessing. So let's
Speaker 1: we respect you Mega two. Case you don't know the
Speaker 1: hip hop industry, we respect I'm gonna hear you a
Speaker 1: quick time with slum. Are you ready? What's the hell
Speaker 1: is that? Hey? Man? Are you ready? I think all right? Nasa, Jack,
Speaker 1: you better come on, man, come on, man, don't do that. No,
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, and what and what and what doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Just pick one. It's okay to pick queens. It's all right, guys.
Speaker 1: Let him talk for himself. I'm not gonna answer that.
Speaker 1: You already know where my asset is. Man, Come on,
Speaker 1: people gotta know what is please. They need to hear
Speaker 1: it out out of listening. I love Jay. My daddy
Speaker 1: grew up in massy projects. Okay, yes, but I'm a
Speaker 1: forty side of burden boy. God damn it, that's what
Speaker 1: we need. Did so Warri Potter infamous. You're going, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. You're going saying say I'm glad
Speaker 1: you didn't. I'm gonna say both. Goddamn. We could get
Speaker 1: away with that now of fact. Rewind both for now
Speaker 1: to Jay. But politically Molly law or Lodds, prof that's tough. Both.
Speaker 1: You can't keep doing it all. Let let me flip
Speaker 1: your ship a little bit. Let me flip your ship.
Speaker 1: Nas and Jack. I'm gonna tell you no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna flip. Let me, let me do my mega version.
Speaker 1: I love Nas because I grew up with him, but
Speaker 1: that's not because so that would be biased. Just just
Speaker 1: for that. I love what Nas has done for the
Speaker 1: culture his album um Illmatic change the landscape wrap in
Speaker 1: the nineties. You know what I'm saying. Also, he pushes me,
Speaker 1: He pushes me. You know what I'm saying as an artist.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And how come you acting
Speaker 1: like you drunk and you ain't drinking. You got I
Speaker 1: don't need that. So um Jay. I like how Jake
Speaker 1: carries himself for our culture, like he makes us we
Speaker 1: we all we have a proud figure representative in him.
Speaker 1: When he goes in boardrooms, when he's in places where
Speaker 1: we have no business and our institutions that are beyond ours,
Speaker 1: our spectrum or or scope, He's making us look good.
Speaker 1: He's empowerment, he's inspiring economically, things like that. So that
Speaker 1: that I mind about him, um um his competitiveness and
Speaker 1: and you know how he represents for New York. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All right now, now, what was
Speaker 1: the next one on this one? I'm I'm going different
Speaker 1: rock Shan, Sean Tay or Foxy Brown. Oh god man,
Speaker 1: this dude right here. Man, they're both families. You gotta
Speaker 1: pick one. You gotta take a stance. Just people trying
Speaker 1: to get me an argument. They both families. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: this is the last one. Let you get away with
Speaker 1: this one. You better be definitive, Major or Independent? Made
Speaker 1: your independent. I'm gonna be definitive again. No, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be definitive, be some trinitive or you want me to
Speaker 1: pick one. He wants to please be defended about which
Speaker 1: one you? I would say independent? If all right, let's
Speaker 1: just say somebody has no passion for wrap, They really
Speaker 1: don't want to wrap, but they get a little hot
Speaker 1: fucking go to Major get your money because you don't
Speaker 1: give a funk about it anyway. But if you're passionate
Speaker 1: about it and you want to own your ship, independent
Speaker 1: is the way, especially now the playing game has been
Speaker 1: even you can go get you do yourself. Like anything
Speaker 1: that the Major can put you on, you could do
Speaker 1: it yourself. And if you do your money the right way,
Speaker 1: you can market yourself. So now you don't have to
Speaker 1: go to them for their money. Like you self. If
Speaker 1: I self t let's it, I could sell. You can
Speaker 1: sell twenty thousand records and make two hundred dollars if
Speaker 1: you do it the right way. So if you just
Speaker 1: make a two dollars a year, if you had to draw,
Speaker 1: make a two h year, your whole family be proud
Speaker 1: of you. So if you could do an album making
Speaker 1: so twenty thousand, you know what I'm saying, Well, let's
Speaker 1: just sayn is some expense. You can make two hundre
Speaker 1: thousand or very album. So if you three sixty deals,
Speaker 1: no never, but independent if you gotta, if you gotta,
Speaker 1: if you got your own bus and your own following,
Speaker 1: Independent is the way you have to explain that because
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I'm one of them, like
Speaker 1: I hate Independent. I'll because of the era that you
Speaker 1: were in the Major. I live over the Independent, but
Speaker 1: I hate it. I'm gonna tell you why, because you
Speaker 1: it's like being born into wealth and then your parents
Speaker 1: takes all the money. Said, now go get it for
Speaker 1: yourself and show me what you can earn. Because when
Speaker 1: you're in the major, your paper two. You came here too.
Speaker 1: That's the funish in the world. You wake up, you
Speaker 1: know we're doing. You're going to the studio, you get
Speaker 1: a car service to the studio, you're having fun in there,
Speaker 1: you're doing, You're catered to. They're gonna send a car,
Speaker 1: they're gonna sendbody pick you up from the airport. They're
Speaker 1: gonna do this, everything, everything, everything is given to you.
Speaker 1: And it's more when you independent, it's more legwork, it's
Speaker 1: more grun it's like undependent to show you who you
Speaker 1: really are. But independent, it depends on how bad you
Speaker 1: want the ownership versus not owning it. And that's why
Speaker 1: I never went back to a major. I could have
Speaker 1: went back after Yo, bro, look at my albums. The
Speaker 1: realness a true meaning that ship like even when you
Speaker 1: look at the hot artists now that's coming out from
Speaker 1: New York, ain't none of them so more than more
Speaker 1: than not there with the truth. If you take the
Speaker 1: true meant in the real together pro a, nobody did that.
Speaker 1: The hottest motherfucker's they do that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But but it's a lot of hard work. But also
Speaker 1: we have so much things in our favor now. I
Speaker 1: didn't have social media back then, YouTube wasn't there, so
Speaker 1: and digital going digital myself where you get the money yourself.
Speaker 1: Now we now we learned how to utilize merchandise, and
Speaker 1: people like your staff, they will to wear your staff,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's like, we have
Speaker 1: all these things that benefit us. That's why labels try
Speaker 1: to get three sixty deals because they want in on
Speaker 1: some of that too. So it's like if you got
Speaker 1: your own, like say Drake, Like say Drake right now,
Speaker 1: Drake independent right now, he don't need a label, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He probably is, do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because he's already built. He's already a
Speaker 1: brand and he knows. So it's like ship like that,
Speaker 1: you don't need a major. No more like majors are
Speaker 1: really artists are doing. Artists are keeping majors open. I
Speaker 1: think that most most of these artists, and even where
Speaker 1: he's coming from is the look is to look to look.
Speaker 1: They're definitely gonna, they decinitely gonna. They they got that machine.
Speaker 1: But independent, you can the guy that's looking big and
Speaker 1: the guy that's under the radar is making the same
Speaker 1: with more money. Exact what they're not a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't understand it. Trust men, I know, I definitely know.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree
Speaker 1: with you. But you gotta watch what you do in
Speaker 1: the business period because you can get screwed in the
Speaker 1: independent business, right you gotta. Yeah, you gotta people gotta
Speaker 1: um like the younger dudes getting in the game, keeping
Speaker 1: it real with your with your man's and all of that.
Speaker 1: It's cool, but you gotta keep it real with yourself too. Um.
Speaker 1: You gotta get your representation, get you a good lawyer.
Speaker 1: You gotta know your paperwork. You gotta and if you
Speaker 1: don't know these things, and you're gonna get screwed. And
Speaker 1: you gotta three six yourself in a sense. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to monetize everything. Yeah, you can do
Speaker 1: your shows, your merch, your your your streams and your physicals,
Speaker 1: all of that. So the new project, we haven't talked
Speaker 1: about it because pleaple. Yet let's go into it. Well
Speaker 1: yet to come out. The joint that UM has played
Speaker 1: a little while ago is like a bat your unreleased joint.
Speaker 1: You said, that's the one that Pope would be proud of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just bars, but it's the cadast reminded me of
Speaker 1: pun as well as when I said, be proud of it.
Speaker 1: Um I ben aggressive aggressive lyrically aggressive. Um I haven't
Speaker 1: done it anywhile. So sometimes as an artist you lose
Speaker 1: your hunger and the fans noticed, so that that joint.
Speaker 1: But that joint been sitting in my stash. So I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta like a I got a bunch of
Speaker 1: unreleased joints that I just want to compile and put out.
Speaker 1: Um I just gotta think of a name. Um but um,
Speaker 1: I would annoy to drive his hand because I got
Speaker 1: something that that's gonna play your gard alright, listen, and
Speaker 1: the most hand sanitizer in the world, asked my wife
Speaker 1: sanitizer at that Senzer. All right, so listen, this is
Speaker 1: the master book black book. You got a black book,
Speaker 1: I might call it the black book black book. Now
Speaker 1: it's a real graffiti. I'm a real graffiti guy. Black book.
Speaker 1: You gotta go graffiti. This ain't graffitia here, but it's tagged.
Speaker 1: But it is that. I don't know what you're going
Speaker 1: with this. You kill of it so far. You know
Speaker 1: how you like my quotes? Yeah, I do like all
Speaker 1: your quotes. No, it's not all these in the book
Speaker 1: of quotes that I tag I want you to to
Speaker 1: be the first to tag it to read. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a great reader. The only thing that comes
Speaker 1: overnight is the moon. The sex doesn't happen over night.
Speaker 1: It takes many mores to reach your success reading room.
Speaker 1: Read next one. When you play both sides, you're always
Speaker 1: caught in the middle. Broy you English, though, your hand
Speaker 1: gotta be dry. Yeah, make sure you got this, bro,
Speaker 1: you got this? Or is easier to let me read
Speaker 1: that one? Let a little bit about I said in
Speaker 1: a word for the poor people, wealth is easier to
Speaker 1: achieve than peace and equality due to the poor character
Speaker 1: of the wealthy. Wow, it courts. I'm just reading quotes
Speaker 1: from my book and I tagged it because that's like
Speaker 1: bossk Yatt used to do it. So now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: it courts absolutely nothing to pay how much? That's what
Speaker 1: drink Champ says. By the way, hold on, stop what what? What?
Speaker 1: What number of the book is that? Because that's what
Speaker 1: drink Champs is. I feel like you should tag drink
Speaker 1: Champs at that point. That's what we do. We pay dagnes,
Speaker 1: that's what we do. Bo came out yet that's what
Speaker 1: it's gonna look it's gonna look that it is hard.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see my writing too like that. This is
Speaker 1: my last one that I read. Never confused real love
Speaker 1: or conditional love. One will lift you up, the other
Speaker 1: will bring you down. So this book is just gyms
Speaker 1: getting money, getting money? Is it art? A lot of
Speaker 1: people paint the town and years later can't break the
Speaker 1: reality that their color schemes have faded or been rep
Speaker 1: by grand schemes that can stand the test of time.
Speaker 1: So damn, that's got to make noise. Being at the
Speaker 1: Black Book. I recommend you calling at the Black because
Speaker 1: you know why the Black Book is a double on
Speaker 1: contra because obviously you're proud to be black. Were all
Speaker 1: proud to be black. But in graffiti, that's that is
Speaker 1: an actual art to like like like when I wrote graffiti,
Speaker 1: I would go to a hundred and eighth street, I
Speaker 1: go I go to I wrote graffiti, so I would
Speaker 1: go to them and I would have to back right
Speaker 1: so and then act, are you supposed to get me
Speaker 1: to say, yo, listen or you give me two two pages?
Speaker 1: And anybody else who funk with you you give pages.
Speaker 1: See I'm learning about you. I gotta get a hatset.
Speaker 1: You gave me this compliment to look I was gonna
Speaker 1: do to you. Ain't taka Listen. I was thinking our
Speaker 1: corning out the Black book, but I have another so
Speaker 1: and then every book I have a different color because
Speaker 1: there's a blue book. So I'm gonna keep hitting people
Speaker 1: quote because I noticed, like my some of the things
Speaker 1: that I said. One of my quotes went platinum on
Speaker 1: your show. Uh, some people are morally. Some people are
Speaker 1: financially rich, but morally, I'll see that ship all over
Speaker 1: the hand. There's not much did I'll be seeings that
Speaker 1: on so so. So I just wrote a whole book
Speaker 1: of quotes, and that's not even my first book of quotes.
Speaker 1: But this black one, I've said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: wanted to be personal. I wanted to be in my handwriting.
Speaker 1: So when this comes out, you'll see it in my handwriting.
Speaker 1: And man, the guard just got on the book deal.
Speaker 1: You know, I know him vaguely. Let's just make that.
Speaker 1: Let's let's see if I can do this. I've been successful,
Speaker 1: come on about something. Let's let's see your shoulder, man.
Speaker 1: Let me take the international real quick. Let me see
Speaker 1: my man is out. Let's go and see my guys
Speaker 1: out seven eight nine. It's twelve o'clock out there. I
Speaker 1: should call somebody. I'm gonna coll Cuba right now. Man
Speaker 1: the same time. You know, it's just my son. I
Speaker 1: want to sleep here. I just try to hit my man.
Speaker 1: Gigs in London, Ny gigs, an gigs in London gigs
Speaker 1: right alright? Cool? Yes, la, man did not show me?
Speaker 1: No who else should call? Let's see. Let's see. Uh
Speaker 1: I've done, I've done hit now you here squash squashing
Speaker 1: right now that you mean? Yeah, I don know who?
Speaker 1: You know who they wanted to call? Joke, no joke
Speaker 1: right now. I don't understand why there's yeah, I love joke.
Speaker 1: I'm like I told him to come on the city
Speaker 1: each other. No, I just told him to come pull
Speaker 1: up and he said, this is what he said. Can
Speaker 1: I call him? O? Kay, let's do I man, let's go.
Speaker 1: If he if he picked up up man, he definitely
Speaker 1: gonna pick up jokes joke we called him on the phone.
Speaker 1: Choke joke, my hang up though. No, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: hang outside. It's gonna feel like you line them up. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: take a shot. Okay, let's see what happened. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you call all these is ros. This is it. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to drink with y'all. Don't see y'all walk through
Speaker 1: a bath bottles. I'm just see who y'all are right now.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Trouble, no joke, y'all. Good energy, man,
Speaker 1: you want you want drink chaps man, Good energy, good energy,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Man. Ships. Some noise for
Speaker 1: this funny, ain't we're about to We're about to h
Speaker 1: talk some ship. But I just wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: y'all it's all love, man, because y'all you know it's
Speaker 1: all love. Talking to Mark talking cool. I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 1: What's up? Joe? Hey, didn't good? I'm good, baby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm great, man. I don't understand when we weren't wrong,
Speaker 1: like the you know, from the first time we started
Speaker 1: three Chance, he was one of our biggest supporters. I
Speaker 1: don't know when you went with it, the support you
Speaker 1: and I said support you, and I don't know where
Speaker 1: we were wrong. You know, when I'm realize these niggers
Speaker 1: at the fucking comments, it's some fucking and tagging there.
Speaker 1: I respect game and then get the root of it.
Speaker 1: All the fans in the comments every day does against
Speaker 1: each other, and I ain't gonna fight. I got to
Speaker 1: blame that joy you're playing joy. I did, yeah, but
Speaker 1: that the past. It's the President's the past, and we're
Speaker 1: fixing in that. We it's fixed. We're good, right, I'm
Speaker 1: good on my good. Look at kore Megan's allegend, kore
Speaker 1: Megan's allegen. You made that happen, Komaga. I was in
Speaker 1: the phone with Camerain yesterday and cho today. This is
Speaker 1: all love in your life. Don't want to do I think,
Speaker 1: thank you see this type of ship we do. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I've always been on this color timebody said that.
Speaker 1: Nobody said I'm saying nobody said that, but that was dope.
Speaker 1: We spoke to nas, but I want that video, which
Speaker 1: one that motherfucker video hopefully King's disease album we didn't
Speaker 1: a stop to. If y'all talked about that. Now you
Speaker 1: said you can't talk about I mean, I don't like
Speaker 1: talking about That's not really my business to talk about.
Speaker 1: That's nos album. Yeah, but he said at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like if he says there's no there's
Speaker 1: no video, there's no video. If he said that video,
Speaker 1: there's a video. So all I can do is I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're on that. I don't know. I want if it happens,
Speaker 1: it happens. I'm just some you like the song. Obviously
Speaker 1: I didn't think. I didn't. I didn't expect it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I didn't expect it. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: just I just wanted to I know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. It was like one of those
Speaker 1: things I can hold a secret. Um. I try to
Speaker 1: get people hints, but not too much hints where I
Speaker 1: give it away. It's like, you know, like people see
Speaker 1: me like in his post and they thought we had issues,
Speaker 1: so like setting like, you know, I always give people
Speaker 1: a little subliminal hints, but I won't give it away. Um,
Speaker 1: so you know it's it's it's it's all good man.
Speaker 1: I feel good. I didn't like you already got the
Speaker 1: video plan the way you're just talking. I mean, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he just gave like there's another projects a good y'all
Speaker 1: pish it, y'all pish it. I feel like I don't listen.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a hundred percent with you. As
Speaker 1: far as a video, um, you're kind of giving it
Speaker 1: away right now there perhaps could be as far as
Speaker 1: the album Right now, my main focus is the Rulness
Speaker 1: part too. I can let you hearry, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to play it on the air, yeah, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna definitely it's nobody and biting my ship. They don't
Speaker 1: want to admit it. I definitely got playing that ship,
Speaker 1: so um yeah, the Runors part too is my main priority.
Speaker 1: Already started on it. Um. I got the unreleased music
Speaker 1: that I played. That's that's not from the Runess either.
Speaker 1: But the Rulings Proud part too, ah yo, dogs, I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of ye. I'm gonna start sending you joint
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna let you here some ship I'm in
Speaker 1: my bag. It sounds like but if your guys was
Speaker 1: you are firm? Are two weird? It's done the way
Speaker 1: you want. I don't know should be part two, it
Speaker 1: should just be starting fresh. I just think, I just
Speaker 1: think everybody. I think. I just think, Uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know if we do another one you want it or
Speaker 1: but no before like y'all together, that ship just sounded
Speaker 1: so naturally like I mean it was the combination from
Speaker 1: the jump was just it's I don't know what what
Speaker 1: makes it so amazing, but it's amazing. It's like you
Speaker 1: think you because it's unexpected. Also, people aren't expecting that.
Speaker 1: People don't know what's gonna happen, so it makes it
Speaker 1: easier for you how to make something seamlessly in that sense,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that because after that
Speaker 1: song everybody was like, we want the album. I just
Speaker 1: think when we get to I just think our chemistry
Speaker 1: is a fan I want to album. I think our
Speaker 1: chemistry is just so unique and maybe the timing is
Speaker 1: perfect too. Sometime the game needs real ship right now.
Speaker 1: So but at the end to day, um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say and say there's an album because
Speaker 1: I'm working on my ship. I think you said there's
Speaker 1: a novel. I didn't. We didn't, and I'm worriding mother
Speaker 1: brother six seven. We're started the Brown I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was the realness part too, and the Black Book.
Speaker 1: Black Book. The Black Book is for for dudes that
Speaker 1: that need to think. Sometimes. I like giving jewels to
Speaker 1: the especially you know you know what I mean? When
Speaker 1: I noticed You're never too old or too young for jewels.
Speaker 1: Like some people to be like, we got to school
Speaker 1: the young dudes. There's some old stuffing dudes. Sometimes we
Speaker 1: sometimes we learn from each other. So it's like, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm putting that black book out next month. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You want to write my ship
Speaker 1: right now, I'll get a different book for that. Okay,
Speaker 1: damn think it. Don't even want now we can do
Speaker 1: some ship. We can do it. We do this ship together.
Speaker 1: We're doing for a couple of quotes on your ship.
Speaker 1: I gotta think about it. That we could do. Uh,
Speaker 1: we could do uh. We could do a collaborative shirt.
Speaker 1: You tag on it, our tag on it. Right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But I think we need to
Speaker 1: do the quote needs to be a shirt. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: we'll see ship compound compound were at Queens rockaway bullet balled.
Speaker 1: Go see compound with a ce kay ship go damn.
Speaker 1: That's how you know I'm dyslexic. See come out call nation.
Speaker 1: Now okay, let's see the nature pick up. We'll call
Speaker 1: on everybody to day fucking let's do it. No nods
Speaker 1: on piece, some pieces best left. Yes, here's a new quote.
Speaker 1: I didn't write it down yet. Yeah, what's the quote?
Speaker 1: Just because I don't funk with you don't mean I
Speaker 1: don't got love for you. But just because I got
Speaker 1: love for you don't mean I gotta funk with you. Jeez,
Speaker 1: that's tough. That's hard to kill. Let's see if nature
Speaker 1: picking up? If Na's pick up in nature, don't fucking
Speaker 1: life is fucked up? Just being honest. Maybe he's busy
Speaker 1: with the family. Bro picked up, Nature's gone. We're here?
Speaker 1: What called Mega? Say? Hello? God? Damn it? Something nature?
Speaker 1: Did you make? What you're making? Waffles? Right now? You're
Speaker 1: making waffles? That's what sound was beautiful? What's good? Man?
Speaker 1: I'm I'm here now, Manna talk about that's so you
Speaker 1: know you're a drink champs, right, Okay, so you know
Speaker 1: I was a little upset with you, right, but I
Speaker 1: love it. You know what I was up saying? Oh, sure,
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to free stout. Okay,
Speaker 1: So remember, um, I sent you a d M. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, because you I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on, but I sent you a DM and
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, could you pop? Okay? I don't
Speaker 1: know how wrong to go. It's like it might have
Speaker 1: been last year. Anyway, I sent you a d M
Speaker 1: actually the post a picture. I asked you to post
Speaker 1: my my my EP, just for us to show love
Speaker 1: to each other, and you didn't. And I was like
Speaker 1: a little taken back by that. When I've seen the scene,
Speaker 1: it just said scene. So I was like, damn, Nick, huh,
Speaker 1: now make a philosophy mega the EP. So I'd rather
Speaker 1: just talk to you about it, because you know, because
Speaker 1: you're my guy and we're doing man ship. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't everything that's going on. And still I still
Speaker 1: have a phone pho like to say, I may have
Speaker 1: to call me, like yeah, let him talk though, Let's
Speaker 1: talk because you know it's positive. It's positive man, trying
Speaker 1: to show people like this is how you handle grown
Speaker 1: up ship, like you're still my man. I sat funking
Speaker 1: with you. An't say fucking Mitchell, I say nothing, Negad.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I was a little upset. I was
Speaker 1: a little hurt. And that I said for somebody used
Speaker 1: to work hurt. That said that means they give a
Speaker 1: fun So you know, I just want I just want
Speaker 1: the same love. I'll give you bro, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I'll give you love real, that's real,
Speaker 1: that's real. You know. We a lot about dams. You know.
Speaker 1: That's that's real right there. That's that's my bad part
Speaker 1: was over what was actually trying to give me it too.
Speaker 1: But you know right now now we've been come on soide.
Speaker 1: If we wasn't good, I wouldn't be smiling on the
Speaker 1: phone with y'all. Just I wouldn't even I don't know
Speaker 1: what to set called nature, but I just you know,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like we gotta we gotta hold ourselves accountable.
Speaker 1: And there's a thing called mutualism without telling worry about.
Speaker 1: And it's like we all benefit each other when we're
Speaker 1: working together. At the end of the day and we're
Speaker 1: gonna be on some amen for self ship, a few
Speaker 1: men are gonna fall like so it's like everybody, each one,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, like we all move like a
Speaker 1: like a unit, everything will be better for everybody. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. That's and
Speaker 1: I'm told and I told Nor that. So it's like
Speaker 1: we Nor just spoke to um. Just put the choke,
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying, and it's all up between
Speaker 1: them right now. So it's like, you know me, you
Speaker 1: obviously don't got no beef. You just text me recently,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it's like that thing was,
Speaker 1: That thing was in my chest, that thing was in
Speaker 1: the back of my head, like damn. So rather than
Speaker 1: hold it, I appreciate you even I appreciate you. You
Speaker 1: can saying that because you know, most of the time
Speaker 1: people have disagree and they hold grudges. They hold grudges
Speaker 1: in the turkeys, and as you know, they gotta be
Speaker 1: something page and who like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: pull out of pockets sometimes to go. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not big enough. I'm not just big
Speaker 1: for somebody to pull my coley black Listen. I need
Speaker 1: you to do this, gro And this is why I
Speaker 1: appreciate no doubt, no doubt, and so love speaks a
Speaker 1: little drink. Chant. I didn't get you way too much shot.
Speaker 1: You gotta go now, see you later. Like wild Grimmins.
Speaker 1: My brother, goddamn, he's just gonna learning. Let's do. That
Speaker 1: was dope right there. That was dope, man, That was dope.
Speaker 1: That was dope. What then why the funds? These people
Speaker 1: calling me right now? Okay, No, James Pus and Eric Nix,
Speaker 1: you ready for them. They're calling you together. They're calling together,
Speaker 1: they're calling you podcast boat. We signed it signed podcasts
Speaker 1: never had a contract. Let's get a contract. Let's do this.
Speaker 1: Let's me He's got the best called podcast right now. No,
Speaker 1: the fucking sneaker Sneaker therapy is even tiller. Were he
Speaker 1: gonna throw your sneakers? Did you see that? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep you some real ship. You know, people feeding for
Speaker 1: me to do a podcast. Yes, we're gonna signs podcasts
Speaker 1: just quote the whole time. So cast. That's kind of
Speaker 1: the only reason I never did a podcast, because I
Speaker 1: told my man, sometimes when you do the same thing
Speaker 1: is somehow you cool with it conflicts sometimes and I
Speaker 1: don't want to be in competition with nobody I'm cool with.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's no reason, Lane, So I'd rather just
Speaker 1: support no re Goddamn. I respect that. I know what
Speaker 1: people do. It's happened Twitter. We all got to account.
Speaker 1: That's true, but I just didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1: I feel like that, I feel like that's you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what you should do. If you think that
Speaker 1: that's what you shouldn't do, you should do Twitch for
Speaker 1: your fans Twitch Twitch we'll talk off off of this
Speaker 1: then I don't know you do. But it's it's like
Speaker 1: pay per view for them to do whatever you're going
Speaker 1: to do for them on Twitch. Like what I mean,
Speaker 1: talk you talk to them. It's like a podcast. We
Speaker 1: charge me a second. It's independent podcasts. They about it
Speaker 1: that way Twitch twitchy. Let me finish my album first,
Speaker 1: Let me finish my book. We're talking about twitch and
Speaker 1: all that, but no sign sign everybody you need to sign. Man,
Speaker 1: that's good. I mean everybody that came out with the
Speaker 1: podcast after the facts that fact nor he did tell
Speaker 1: me about this like over like two years ago 's
Speaker 1: three FT. You got my two favorite podcasts, right man.
Speaker 1: It's hood Therapy. We throw your sneakers away. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: my favorite shot therapy. Shoot Therapy. It's the same ship.
Speaker 1: Show is not throwing sneaks in the water. It's a second.
Speaker 1: It's a segments the second only yesterday was part of that.
Speaker 1: That was the show, that was the beginning. You was
Speaker 1: a part of the show. It was the part of
Speaker 1: the show. And you know how you know part of
Speaker 1: me for interjecting. No you get interjack, Okay, um, you
Speaker 1: know how you said, like Mega's changed, Like you see
Speaker 1: a change in me. Sometimes people tell you things about yourself.
Speaker 1: You can either be stubborn about it or embrace what
Speaker 1: they're saying and learn from it. Or you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yesterday I noticed a change in myself. Like
Speaker 1: when we were chilling and uh, a bottle fell right
Speaker 1: at the end or glass sign to anybody, remember that
Speaker 1: the glass all right? And then were just leaving and
Speaker 1: I just double back and I went and picked it
Speaker 1: up because there was some old ladies right there. And
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but southern me was like to
Speaker 1: get that because you don't want them ladies get hurt,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So the old wady just
Speaker 1: last something about you know what I'm saying, Sonning. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know why, but that's just the
Speaker 1: kind of time of more. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's like my brother says, it's growth. It's growth, that's real.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I said that. It's because I
Speaker 1: love the growth. Fitness. That's not the downplay it. It's
Speaker 1: like maybe I credited Islam to it. But if you
Speaker 1: became a better person as I knew you, that's you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, what I credited to Islam. So
Speaker 1: that's probably the part of that quote that you didn't like. No,
Speaker 1: I liked it because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that's like somebody saying you his grades are better in school.
Speaker 1: I wondered it from him studying or you know. No,
Speaker 1: no matter what you said, it was a compliment, like
Speaker 1: you didn't you know. The only thing, the only thing
Speaker 1: questionable about that whole thing was when he was like,
Speaker 1: I get Mega now and then somebody said does he
Speaker 1: get you? I'm like, here we go. That's a slide. One,
Speaker 1: that's a slide. But I'm in a good place, so
Speaker 1: I will saw that. So um, you know, moving forward.
Speaker 1: Today is a beautiful day. I was. It was ain't
Speaker 1: even coming out. He already know because I called you
Speaker 1: and I've said your bad guy would like you to
Speaker 1: come on because you show with strength. When Steve Style
Speaker 1: came on here, I knew you was mad. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he was mad at you did right about it, Steve.
Speaker 1: I didn't post to him, but it wasn't disrespectful. I
Speaker 1: challenged him. I said, if you want to go to
Speaker 1: any public farm just to speak, and I added him
Speaker 1: like we could, we could talk. And I scared him
Speaker 1: his problem for who he is, because I don't want
Speaker 1: to be for him if he if he wants to
Speaker 1: hold you know, you worked like eighties million dollars or whatever,
Speaker 1: if you worked that much money. He's mad at coret Mega.
Speaker 1: Something that's not right because if I had eight million dollars,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be thinking about nobody from twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even remember you. So so my whole thing
Speaker 1: is like I know, my stories is the truth. That's
Speaker 1: the one thing about me. Nobody's gonna say Megan's a liar.
Speaker 1: I'm not lying about nothing. So like like I said,
Speaker 1: had I came with the papers today when when people's
Speaker 1: own words conflicting with you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's like I have no issues with Steve at all.
Speaker 1: I respect Steve. Steve is good for the culture. I
Speaker 1: love what he did with for for my man's career.
Speaker 1: He took him, he took him to another level. But
Speaker 1: it's like a part of being blessed is is um
Speaker 1: is um being compassionate and and and understanding where your
Speaker 1: blessings came from, an understanding like you don't have to
Speaker 1: you don't have to stand on people. Yo. Man, all
Speaker 1: you gotta do is reach. You could reach for for
Speaker 1: something without standing on somebody. You don't gotta step on
Speaker 1: people next all the time. And it's like a lot
Speaker 1: of his interviews or wait, shipping on somebody. And this
Speaker 1: is not my opinion. You could You could just do
Speaker 1: your own research. You don't have to shoot on somebody
Speaker 1: every interview. You already shipping on people just by living
Speaker 1: in your lifestyle. You ship and you're doing your thing.
Speaker 1: Just be be a gracious winner. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, making me look
Speaker 1: bad like it's if you try to make me look stupid,
Speaker 1: you better be shop as fun because I'm coming with facts.
Speaker 1: And if you say somebody me and it's accurate, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say you know what, You're right. Oh, and I'm
Speaker 1: man enough to say my bad or I'm sorry. See
Speaker 1: that's the difference between certain people. I don't even certain people.
Speaker 1: You get to a point where you might get to
Speaker 1: this point with certain people. There are some people I
Speaker 1: have drives just with and I'll just fall back because
Speaker 1: sometimes you can let it air out, let it, let
Speaker 1: it fade, and then you come back when cool cooler
Speaker 1: has prevailed. The saying goals. Some people turn small yo
Speaker 1: when you turn an issue. When you treat up issues
Speaker 1: like it's beef, that's something totally different. That's why a
Speaker 1: lot of friendships are funked up because people have they
Speaker 1: have small fallouts, but they handed like it's major beef.
Speaker 1: And when it's major beef's hard to come back to that.
Speaker 1: It's hard to take ship back to that. So so
Speaker 1: certain people I would rather than just fade out the
Speaker 1: picture of my life than to even reconciliate with them.
Speaker 1: Like there's certain people in my life, I mean not
Speaker 1: in my life that were in my life that I'm
Speaker 1: content if I never see them again for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. Like That's where I'm at with it.
Speaker 1: And no, I don't even got no pep stole because
Speaker 1: to think the crazy thing about Stoff was I'd barely
Speaker 1: I barely see I've probably seen Has. I've seen Has
Speaker 1: more in the last ten years than I've seen Steve.
Speaker 1: I've seen Has in the last five years more than
Speaker 1: I Steve Steen in the last twenty years, so he's
Speaker 1: really not a part of my life. So I shouldn't
Speaker 1: even be in those conversations in the derogatory manner. And
Speaker 1: it's like be a graceful winner. Like even Chris Lie,
Speaker 1: Chris was at some meeting and my name got brought up, right,
Speaker 1: and this is a guy I was signed to and
Speaker 1: and I and I and I got off the label.
Speaker 1: You know what Chris said there was like, yeah, what's Omega?
Speaker 1: And he said, that's the one that got away. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a grateful man. That ship made me respect
Speaker 1: him even more, like like meaning like he he felt
Speaker 1: like he could have did more for you. He said,
Speaker 1: that's the one that got away. Whatever, there's something good
Speaker 1: like you, that's the one that got away. It's like
Speaker 1: having a good woman and you lose up, or like
Speaker 1: having a good friend and having a good investment. You
Speaker 1: didn't invest in it. That's the one that got away.
Speaker 1: So when he said that, my respect for him went up. Charlotte,
Speaker 1: mean to go. You made me look crazy just now, man,
Speaker 1: I called you, we called lies. Everybody picked up. You
Speaker 1: only need ain't picked up. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: offended or not. This is Charlott Mane. Save the hold
Speaker 1: on hold of me, let me give let me give
Speaker 1: um your real moment. You don't know that about this
Speaker 1: my secret life. Yo. I got cool with Charlottemagne when
Speaker 1: I was working at MTV on the low. Nobody knew
Speaker 1: what work that MTV. But see what's good y'all. Let
Speaker 1: me say this, bro, I'm very proud of your your
Speaker 1: growth and your like the way you ascended in our culture.
Speaker 1: I'm extremely proud of you, Brong, because I remember the beginning.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I like how you represent
Speaker 1: our people, and I like where you're going with. You
Speaker 1: don't embarrass us, you don't make us look stupid, and
Speaker 1: you don't conduct yourself ignorantly. So thank you for that, bro.
Speaker 1: Hold up with Charlomagne. I say that to say, we
Speaker 1: signed in Comega to us, what is that blackctal, the
Speaker 1: book deal, the black effect we got the more we
Speaker 1: were signed them. And you also signed Hood Therapy and
Speaker 1: Smooth Chips as well. Don't worry about that, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, don't worry about that. But you trans podcast
Speaker 1: set work. God dammit. All right, my father, this is
Speaker 1: a great end of time, we got everybody and you
Speaker 1: didn't go negative. And no way you're trying to just
Speaker 1: heal you that way. No, you just we're bigger than
Speaker 1: the college because because when you because sometimes I've learned,
Speaker 1: like when you stooped down to people's level, then you
Speaker 1: gotta go down. I'm trying to go up. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to stay up, bro. So it's like we did even
Speaker 1: even the nature thing that we did. I'll say this
Speaker 1: on the air, but you can edit that out. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that from because I'm compassionate now
Speaker 1: and you felt every awkwind it uncomfortable. It was caught
Speaker 1: off guard. He was caught off guard, and you know,
Speaker 1: so we could edit that out, or you could edit
Speaker 1: it in a way where when he was finally up
Speaker 1: to he's like now, you could edit it where he's
Speaker 1: up to speak. I gotta be where do you even
Speaker 1: to think at it at all? And I was sleeping.
Speaker 1: It's with drink Champs. We d into when he knows
Speaker 1: he's on drink Champs. He didn't know he was on
Speaker 1: drink Champs. You could have called me with that or
Speaker 1: like the you could edit it that that it's tied
Speaker 1: it man, it's just and I gave, and I gave,
Speaker 1: and I gave the nice and I gave him a
Speaker 1: nice version of why I felt he should should have
Speaker 1: promoted me, because because the whole version. You know, I
Speaker 1: have paper, no papers, So basically, first of all, these
Speaker 1: are new papers. So basically basically name turn out, turn
Speaker 1: me out, turn out. So there was a show it
Speaker 1: and not I not. They gave me free ring Mega.
Speaker 1: We want you to do a show. You're the headliner.
Speaker 1: Put who you want on the show. We're gonna fly
Speaker 1: them out here. We're gonna pay them to hand to accommodation.
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna get them close. I'm putting Nature in
Speaker 1: rock Mantiano. Nature made money. Then I had another show
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. I'm putting nat show on the show. And
Speaker 1: then after the show, he says, December eighteenth, it's Christmas time.
Speaker 1: I don't celebrate Christmas. Took five hundred out of my
Speaker 1: pay and added it to his. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So this is the type of time I'm on. When
Speaker 1: I tell you I'll do real ship, I put thousands
Speaker 1: in this man pocket. So if I asked you to
Speaker 1: post a picture so I could be a little offended
Speaker 1: if you're gonna post the picture if I gave you thousands.
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm just feeling it title for you
Speaker 1: to post my picture, like show me love like I
Speaker 1: show you love. So that's what I'm saying. The selfish
Speaker 1: climate amongst us, all queeze niggers just playing quez. I
Speaker 1: kind of feel Trump hit him up to see if
Speaker 1: you had so not so all one that smoke. So basically,
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is you like Trump, know that you
Speaker 1: like Trump. I don't like politics. I don't like politics.
Speaker 1: Don't think about it. I don't like politics because this
Speaker 1: is a dirty game and Biden Biden us and all
Speaker 1: about homies to jail. Before it was like, you're saying
Speaker 1: you like Trump, I'm saying Trump is a I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I don't I would let me
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not. I'm not positive. Bernie Sanders yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, buns would have been dug. I want to listen.
Speaker 1: Here's my ticket, Bernie Sanders and Michelle Obama. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Michelle could have ran. Sheelle Obama and Bernie Sanders as
Speaker 1: vice president. I like that. That would have been that
Speaker 1: she wasn't. She don't if she don't want to, she don't.
Speaker 1: Selle Obama and Bernie Sanders they want to bring out
Speaker 1: Michelle would have won if she would have ran. I'm
Speaker 1: on that kind of time. Oh man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Or Easy maybe? I mean if Easy ran,
Speaker 1: if Easy really runs our around, would vote for fuck it?
Speaker 1: We're vote for everybody else. Yeah, ur And who's gonna
Speaker 1: be the body's president? I feel like it's me at
Speaker 1: this point, you know, you know, look at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna change you that I gonna be in there.
Speaker 1: They definitely don't want me to be the restident, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna let this Nike live after jeez, I don't
Speaker 1: know why I went there, but you're running homes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but back and this is a pleasure, bro. You know
Speaker 1: this was great. Is there anything you want? Because you
Speaker 1: have notes, he can go look at you. Make sure
Speaker 1: you might have a paper bring out he got paperwork.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is how the gotta walk through
Speaker 1: the yards, and that this is how people that walk
Speaker 1: through the yards the fat You gotta have your paperwork.
Speaker 1: She gotta be right or you can't even walk through
Speaker 1: this is how we walked through the fat's yard. Just now,
Speaker 1: are you understand? Are you understand? You got any Let's
Speaker 1: see hold, let me go through my nose. Let's go nory. Okay,
Speaker 1: here go boom such a nod. Yeah, this is for
Speaker 1: the normy show I had. All right, so let me
Speaker 1: see you I said that one already. M okay, this
Speaker 1: one is, this is, this is one. This ain't even
Speaker 1: in my book. And this is about um stubbornness. And
Speaker 1: while certain certain people you just gotta let them fade. Well,
Speaker 1: certain people you could try, but it's like some people
Speaker 1: will rather be objective than corrected, which makes them slaves
Speaker 1: to their mistakes instead of free to improvement. So and
Speaker 1: then I have one when I said botanist. Botanist is
Speaker 1: people that specialize in theay with flowers. So your show,
Speaker 1: you get people their roses, and I'm and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I had that in my head. It's like when we
Speaker 1: give people are roses, we gotta be careful. Basically, it's
Speaker 1: like the way you get people their roses is love,
Speaker 1: so talk other people get people their roses, but we
Speaker 1: need botanists. We need to be careful with some of
Speaker 1: the roles that we get from people because roses have
Speaker 1: thorns in them, bro, So it's like, don't give me,
Speaker 1: don't give me my roses, but but sting you get
Speaker 1: to me. So that's why I fussed with you. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I got that's all. Some people
Speaker 1: they talk about how they got love for you, but
Speaker 1: they give incomplete sentences. They'll say I have your back,
Speaker 1: but the complete conversations is they have conversations behind your back.
Speaker 1: Don't be an incomplete sentence when you're funking with a
Speaker 1: nigger with a brother, okay um? And then what else
Speaker 1: I said that? I said that? Uh, I said that. Oh,
Speaker 1: here's a very important one. We touched on that revisionist theory.
Speaker 1: We business somebody who changes something so they can say
Speaker 1: the skies blue, and somebody else to say the skies
Speaker 1: greg even though it was blue when you said it
Speaker 1: was blue, they would change it and then everybody believe
Speaker 1: the scuy was great. So I was like gonna break down,
Speaker 1: like how some people who have tried to give a
Speaker 1: revisionist theory of some things in life. But I have
Speaker 1: to do that because I had to paperwork. I um.
Speaker 1: And the last one, this is an important one out
Speaker 1: of my notes. A misconception about peace or pursuit of
Speaker 1: it is that one is passive. My piece does not
Speaker 1: include turning the other cheek in the face of adversity
Speaker 1: or tolerate in disrespect. So that means, yeah, I'm on
Speaker 1: my cool ship. I'm trying to be humble. I love life,
Speaker 1: but my aim is better more like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, David, Let live. So that's just in general.
Speaker 1: When we are as we grow as men. As we
Speaker 1: grow sometimes when you from a certain element and then
Speaker 1: you start growing, people look at you different. And I
Speaker 1: think when we're young and we have those dreams. Every
Speaker 1: single person in this room had those dreams, those childish dreams,
Speaker 1: and those young dreams, the childish dreams. Be yo, when
Speaker 1: we grow up, I'm gonna get rich one day and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a car like this, and I'm you know,
Speaker 1: those dreams may be little, and then some of us
Speaker 1: actually do that ship. But when we become teens and
Speaker 1: young adolescents and young men, our plan is to get
Speaker 1: out the hood. Y'all want to get out the hood.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. So my thing is don't get
Speaker 1: mad at the person who stuck to the plan because
Speaker 1: we all had that plan. But sometimes when other people
Speaker 1: don't implement that plan, they get mad at the person
Speaker 1: that's stuck to the plan. That's not fair. So update
Speaker 1: your plans rather than hate on your mask. That's that.
Speaker 1: God damn it. I feel like that was the great ending.
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