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Love. 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: I love the fact that we all consider up here 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: in line acting like, oh man, I know every team. 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: You know that Sianna team, I'll tell you all about him, 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: and you know that Morehead State and all that kind 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: of stuff. Man, I love that I get to just 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: turn on the TV. There's games all over. You don't 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: have to think, you know, maybe having lunch or your 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: breakfast because they started early. Turn it on his games everywhere. 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: I get to just enjoy it, and you and I 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: will we do for a living. You know, you gotta 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: know everything, especially obviously NFL, MLB, NBA. You gotta know stuff, 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: what's going on. Lamar Jackson has to win this because 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: he hasn't won a Super Bowl. All these things that 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: kind of come into it. And yes, there will be 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: a few stories, and yes, there's a coach who hasn't 23 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: won one or something like that, but you get to 24 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: just turn it on and enjoy it, man, And that 25 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: for me is such a great part of it. And 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: seeing that these kids, and you know, when basketball you 27 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: cover your in Detroit for twenty years, there. 28 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 3: Are a lot of kids who are really, really, really good. 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: But because there's only five starters on the team, it's like, 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: all right, well, I guess I gotta take that guy 31 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: and he might feel slighted, like, man, I'm I'm just 32 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: as good, maybe I didn't have as few points less. 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: But in basketball, man, this is why you get these 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: close games, in these upsets, or you know, is that 35 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: all you need is a dog one you know, good 36 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: player and a bunch of other guys who know the role. 37 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they're juniors and seniors, maybe they're older. We know 38 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: guys are playing who are twenty four to twenty five, 39 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: twenty six, and you can compete. And you know that 40 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: football is different. You know, if you're Alabama, Miami Ohio 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: ain't beating you. 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you don't have a shot. 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: And in college basketball, you got a shot because on 44 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: tonight we're making our shots. 45 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: You're not unfamiliar with these teams. And again you. 46 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Might have a guy who is good who got better 47 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: as his college experience went on. And so I like 48 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: that that anything's possible aspect of it for the first 49 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: round or two. 50 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: Well, that's that's what I enjoyed it. That's where I'm 51 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: gonna start. Anything is possible, and that's the whole premise 52 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: of the tournament. And that's why I was so against 53 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: Bruce Pearl when he was bashing Miami of Ohio that 54 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 4: they didn't deserve to be in and that they weren't 55 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 4: one of the best sixty eight teams or whatever he 56 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 4: wanted to say, because of their schedule or whatever. 57 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: And of course they went out and. 58 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: Beat SMU eighty nine to seventy nine and worked them 59 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 4: over like a burger and fries. And that's why people 60 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: attack Bruce Pearl. We get it, a he was politicking 61 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 4: for his son, who's the coach of Auburn. But bigger 62 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: than that, that's what this tournament is about. It's about 63 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: schools that have no business winning. So his whole premise 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: made no sense. If it was about the best of 65 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 4: the best, it would be a sixteen team tournament. If 66 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: you wouldn't have sixty eight teams. So its whole idea 67 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: and premise was off, oh, look at the data and 68 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 4: where they rank it. That's not what it's supposed to 69 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: be about. It's supposed to be that you can come 70 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 4: in and on any given day, any given night, you 71 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: might play your best game ever and be a team 72 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: you have no business beating. If it was just about 73 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: the best of the best, this tournament wouldn't even have 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 4: the same feel. 75 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: It wouldn't be that important to people. 76 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: If it was just that it would it would you know, 77 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: you'd have your tournament or whatever. But it's the whole 78 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: idea that the term Cinderella whose girls talking about, like, 79 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: we don't want these Cinderellas here at all. I disagree, 80 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: especially the first and second d There you go, right, 81 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: that's what it's supposed to be. We want to see. 82 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Now it's different too, because now you just have these 83 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: you know, pheenom freshman one offs, like there's the one 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: guy on the team, one guy over here, ones at 85 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: BYU and ones at Arkansas. One's you know, and so 86 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: it's different then back when you wanted to see those 87 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: duke teams of North Carolina, those Michigan, Michigan State, those 88 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: you CLA so on, and so for where you knew 89 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: the guys UNLV, you knew the three four guys that 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: have been there for it. 91 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: So now it's just these one offs. 92 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: So it makes Cinderella even more interesting because you have 93 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: a shot because these teams aren't fully loaded like they 94 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: used to be. But that's absolutely the point of it. 95 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: And you do your son no justice when you go 96 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: on these platforms and you're saying that when again there's 97 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: no real marries. It's not like your son, your team 98 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: was that good. It's like, dude, for you to not 99 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: get in the tournament of sixty eight, your team ain't 100 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: that good. 101 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: You gee what I'm saying. 102 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: And you may again some high point wins today first 103 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: NCAA tournament winning school history, first went over a power 104 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: conference team all time, so on, and so they were 105 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: on fifty seven before it too. 106 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: But that's what this is about. 107 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: And he made some case that you had to be 108 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: a blue blood in a top school and even eight 109 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 4: as you mentioned. 110 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, the whole idea was nonsense. 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: And that's why that's the first thing I thought about 112 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: today was about Miami of Ohio that they got disrespected. 113 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: Did thirty two and one stop like they deserve the spot. 114 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: They deserve to be in this. I don't care what 115 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: the schedule, I don't care what the ranking, the computer says. 116 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 4: You win that many basketball games, you deserve it. And 117 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 4: and for most people, I think that especially no no 118 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 4: mid major has ever won the national championship. We get it, 119 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: They've come close, So we're not talking about that. We've 120 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: seen the ratings when we had three out of four 121 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 4: cinderellas and guess. 122 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: What nobody watched. 123 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 4: Like I get that, But the early rounds of why 124 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 4: you have that many teams is because of these schools 125 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 4: that aren't that maybe aren't as good or don't measure up, 126 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: but have a fighting chance. Your star has a bad night, 127 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: a ball bounces the other way. That's what this is about. 128 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 4: It ain't no, we're not here to see if every 129 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 4: game was you know, the top seeds demolish it. Yeah, 130 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: like then we could stop because because that's not basketball. 131 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: Nobody is willing to watch that. Nobody wants to watch 132 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 4: a forty point blowout. If you want to do that, 133 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 4: you watch the NBA on a regular basis, But you 134 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: don't want that on this tournament, and that's why you 135 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: get Duke barely winning seventy one to sixty five over Siena. 136 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: Sienna was a sixteen seed, though Duke obviously the one seed, 137 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 4: and Duke kind of go on a crazy run to 138 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: get back in that game and ultimately take it over. 139 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: That's what you watch. 140 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: So to your point, they don't always have to be 141 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: the upset, but everybody's sitting at home, or sitting at work, 142 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: or sneaking on their phone and at work, whatever they're 143 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: doing to watch his game. They got to see a 144 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: number one seed with arguably a number one two three 145 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: pick and boozer, and they got to see that was 146 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: nerve wrecking, right. They got to see a close game. 147 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: You got to enjoy it. It was much better than 148 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: the thunder one and Brooklyn nets in the NBA and 149 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: just said, you know what I mean. So so to me, 150 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: this is why you watch. You get games that are close, 151 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: unexpected games. Obviously you get some upsets, but that's what 152 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: makes it fun. And again the idea that if his 153 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: son at a bigger school can't be one of the 154 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: better sixty eight sixty seven other teams, that's more of 155 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: a problem or in diving on him than me having 156 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: a problem with Miami Ohio. You get what I mean, Like, 157 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: credit them. They've done what they needed to be such 158 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: a smaller school and done their thing. You have all 159 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: the resources and everything you need at that bigger school, 160 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: and your son we have to complain and try to 161 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: get them on, you know, in the tournament on air 162 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: using your platform, so to that. 163 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that, but that's why I enjoy it. Man. 164 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: You don't know any of these kids might not even 165 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: remember them after the next couple of weeks, before night 166 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: or two. 167 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 3: They're balling right now. 168 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: It's early VCU eleven seed is up fifteen fourteen on 169 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina. You know who knows how the game wi end. 170 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: But my point is it's an entertaining game. They're competing 171 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: in forces North Carolina, the bigger seed, the more household 172 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: name to play. And I'll make this last point again, Rob. 173 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: This ain't your eighties, seventies, eighties nineties basketball where you 174 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: have four or five guys. You know, you had Boozer 175 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: and Jay Williams and dun Levy and Dante Jones and 176 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: all that at Duke where it's like, how we're gonna 177 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: beat this team. 178 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 3: They've been together so long. 179 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: There these teams, people transferring, people getting older guys, these 180 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: unknown schools, if you will, these smaller schools, they're gonna 181 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: compete because they're older, they've been in tournaments, they got 182 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: four or five years you've experienced, sometimes even six depending 183 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: on COVID year and all that stuff. 184 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 3: So there's gonna be This ain't gonna. 185 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: Be back in the day where you had these monstrous 186 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Kansas teams, North Carolina teams, duke teams. 187 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 3: Where it was hard to beat them. 188 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: Some of these guys man transferred from other schools and 189 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: older guys, you got a chance to really make some noise. 190 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 191 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: the nation. 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They're mister all everything is down right now. 207 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a bad day for us Piston fans. 208 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: Right now. 209 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,119 Speaker 6: Detroit basketball is down in a big way. Kate Cunningham 210 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 6: officially diagnosed with the collapse lung, expected terrible, an extended 211 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 6: period of time. They didn't say initially how long he's 212 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 6: gonna miss. Later reports confirmed it's gonna be a minimum 213 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 6: of two weeks. So even though Detroit is a top 214 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 6: the Eastern Conference, they're currently winning against Washington, it's gonna 215 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 6: be tough to close the season without. 216 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: Your best player, your only playmaker. 217 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 6: And as a sidebar, unless he comes back at exactly 218 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 6: two weeks, there is a very very good chance that 219 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 6: he will not be eligible any postseason ward. This is 220 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 6: a guy who was an MVP candidate as recently as 221 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 6: two weeks ago. It seemed like a shoe win for 222 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 6: First Team All NBA, and now he could be left 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 6: out of the cold completely. 224 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: And rightfully so if you don't play enough games. 225 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: And it has anything to do with Caid Cunningham, and 226 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: he's had a tremendous season, but that's just the rules, 227 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: and it makes sense. 228 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: It's always been. I talk about it all the time. 229 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 4: You don't qualify major League Baseball if you don't have 230 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 4: three point one per played appearances, right, that's what you 231 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: need per for one hundred and sixty two games. If 232 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: you don't get that, you don't qualify. It's just that simple. 233 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 4: Somebody could play one hundred games in baseball hit four hundred, 234 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: they're not winning the batting title. 235 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: They won't have enough at bats. 236 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: So the same thing when it goes to Caid and 237 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: other players involved in this. But my biggest story, I think, 238 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 4: and I know people are a little worked up about 239 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 4: that that he's not going to be up for awards, 240 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: But I think if I was a Pistons fan woke 241 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: up and saw that news reasons over for the Detroit Pistons, 242 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 4: you could discount it. Pooh pooh it. Try to make 243 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: it not be so, and oh, he'll just be He's 244 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 4: gonna be reevaluated in two weeks. He's not gonna be 245 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 4: ready to play in two weeks reevaluated. Then it's gonna 246 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: take you about a week or so to get webbed 247 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 4: up to play. So you're in a situation where you're 248 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: going to be without him, mark my words. 249 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: The Celtics will catch the Pistons. 250 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:35,479 Speaker 4: The Celtics will catch the Pistons, win the Eastern Conference 251 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: and this will be the beginning of what looked like 252 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 4: a beautiful season for the Pistons. But as you look 253 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: at it, he's the guy, the creator, the guy who 254 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 4: can score for them. They're still they outside shooting the 255 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 4: three point shooting abysmal. I'm sorry. It's Kate and nobody. 256 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 4: For the most part, it's Kate. He's the stir. He's 257 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: the drink stir, Kay Cunningham. And to act like a 258 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: collapse Long is like a spraying ankle and he'll be 259 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: all right and he'll be right back in there. It 260 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: ain't that it's a little tricky. Are They are broken ribbed? 261 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 4: With that collapse Long, he could have broken ribs. And 262 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: there he took for those who that's what happened. 263 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he he took like a knee to the lower left, 264 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, like usually that's where the punctured. 265 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 4: Or something broached it, so it could be one or 266 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: two broken ribs in there. I like the four ribs 267 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 4: that grouse, but not when it comes to Ky Cunningham and. 268 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: The Pistons playoff. 269 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: You only getting four that's all four for five dollars, 270 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 4: four bones, four bones that. 271 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: The deal is good. 272 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: But i'll five dollars and then that makes sense. 273 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 4: It's just a snack, all right. But I'm convinced. 274 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: I don't you. 275 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: Were You weren't convinced they were gonna do anything in 276 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: the first place. So this ain't a new revelation that 277 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: the season's over. I say that, but I'm. 278 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: Saying you didn't know. What did you think they were 279 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: gonna do? Anyway? Go to the second round, win an 280 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: easy first round matchup? 281 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 4: In this They're not gonna win the first round. You 282 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: I'm not convinced matchups matter. 283 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: Now who are they playing? And then no, ca if 284 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: Cage's not playing. 285 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: I expect him to play in the playoffs. We got what, Kate? 286 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: Are you getting in the But as long as I 287 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: get you barbecue broken barbecue ribs? Yeah, well listen an 288 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: long he got us. That's why we keep a spare 289 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: any such thing as a spare rib. We keep a 290 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: spare rib around here, Rob Dangy. We're gonna bandage him up. 291 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna give him some little holistic medicine. We're gonna 292 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: call Alex, give him some beat it up juice or 293 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: whatever you call it, and he'll be all right. 294 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: No, couple of things. 295 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: One, obviously it sucks, but let me offer a silver 296 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: lining or the way to find maybe a blessing in disguise. 297 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: You even I, which is why I haven't said they're 298 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: going to the NBA Finals. No, they need somebody who 299 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: can take it to the next level. Jalen Duran is 300 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: an amazing last game he had I think it was 301 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: thirty six and twelve on like seventy five percent shooting. 302 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: He's been he's been great, he's been an All Star. 303 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: He's been spectacular. But he's not necessarily a guy you 304 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: dump it down and say give me a bucket. He 305 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: can and he and to his credit, he takes full 306 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 1: advantage of teams who don't have the size and the 307 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: strength that he has. I love to see kind of 308 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: a throwback doing that, but you do need to bucket 309 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: get it from the outside. And I'm wondering if them 310 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: the Pistons to say, nobody wants our best player to 311 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: have a puncture lunger he kidding me. Sounds awful, But 312 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: can we for the next two to three weeks find 313 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: some more offense, find some better sets, find some better 314 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: ways to get guys shots, find some better looks for people. 315 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: Does a guy step into a role that we said, 316 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: we know he was solid, but dang, he actually really 317 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: can produce or create for us. And now all of 318 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: a sudden you got something that you can become an 319 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: additive or an addition as you get into postseason. 320 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: I mean, but the only issue I have with your 321 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 4: logic is that you don't know what Kate. 322 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 3: Is coming back. Oh you don't like, you. 323 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: Don't know what degree history, so only going by base 324 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: off what we know. So typically they say somebody's out 325 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: three when they've had this happen three and a half weeks. 326 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: Has kind of been the average that someone is out 327 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: with a puncture or collapse lug three and a half weeks, 328 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: So for them, that would lead them kind of walking 329 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: right into the postseason. Now to your point, evaluated in 330 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: two weeks, what does that mean is I mean two 331 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: weeks he's ready to go. The next game, they say, 332 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, is he is he out? Did you just 333 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: keep him out? And say, screws keep him out even 334 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: if he's relatively healthy. 335 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: And if they find out he has broken ribs in there, like, well, 336 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 4: what you can't. 337 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: Play with broken way, it's just some pain tolerance thing. Now. 338 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: Of course, if I'm the other team, we might be 339 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: a little more way. 340 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 4: Look at the game to night, they playing Washington, terrible 341 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: Washington team, and they only up by five. 342 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: Or so early. Come on as Washington. I'm just saying them, 343 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: if they lose. 344 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: Tonight without Kid, I'm gonna I'm You'll be people will 345 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 4: be like Rob was right as all. 346 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: No, nobody's gonna say it as one game. Yes, yes, 347 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: where they're sitting here forty nine and nineteen three and 348 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: a half games up on on on Boston, listen. I 349 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: saw their schedule. They've got a they got some wizard 350 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: type games. They got a couple of tough ones with 351 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: the Thunder, and I forgot the Lakers coming up on Monday. 352 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: They got a few tough ones. But my point is 353 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: I think they can with stand the storm. They can 354 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: push through finished first, finished, second. It really doesn't matter 355 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: as long as you got home court advantage against most 356 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: teams throughout the postseason. And uh, if they gave that division, 357 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: you cool with that. Yeah, that doesn't really because they 358 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: really matter like first, So let's say it's Boston ends 359 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: up taking say, you're not gonna really in the Chalky world, 360 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: you wouldn't see them until these are conference finals, So 361 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter what it makes a difference between. 362 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: I think home court in the NBA not other sports. 363 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying you, but you would get 364 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: it against everybody but Boston, so you know you'd be 365 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: you'd be fine throughout. 366 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 367 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: So if we finish first, you finish a game behind Boston, 368 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, fine, we'll take that as long 369 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: as we, you know, still get home court through everyone else. 370 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: But I think again, they can have an opportunity to 371 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: find some way to get some more offense, to get 372 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: guys going to find some sets that work. 373 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: K will be back what version, We'll have to wait 374 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: and see. 375 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: I believe long as he's eighty percent version eighty eight five, 376 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: you'll be fine to beat most teams in these Now 377 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: it'll get tough with the Boston They're proven, they've been 378 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: great for a decade, now the champions champion, so you 379 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: got to respect them for sure. I still don't buy 380 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland like you seem to. I don't think Cleveland. 381 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't buy them in a posting. 382 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they're tough enough and the Knicks will 383 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: be a great battle that I think Cleveland. 384 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 4: I think Cleveland can beat the Pistons if eight is 385 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: not right, they. 386 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: Can, but I don't buy I'm buying them. 387 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm saying, even aside for the Pistons, just 388 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: period you like Cleveland, I don't know. 389 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: I know it's the NBA is about match up. I 390 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: don't disagree with that. 391 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 4: The Knicks have their number, but they have the Piston's number. 392 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 4: Go look at Cleveland is beating the Pistons for whatever reason, and. 393 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I think they would get beat up literally like physically 394 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: beat up if they were if they were to match up. 395 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: I just don't buy. 396 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: I can't all of a sudden, by Donovan Mitchell, who 397 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: has been spectacular throughout his career. 398 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: In the regular season, we always say is there some 399 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 3: short wait? 400 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: In the postseason, He's put up some numbers, but his 401 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: teams don't do anything. And then James Harden, who has 402 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: been the greatest example of all world everything for twelve 403 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: fifteen years offensively in the NBA, and it's done nothing 404 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: in the season. 405 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 4: And then again there's another exaggerate to say he's done nothing. 406 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 4: Now he's come up empty, but go look at his 407 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: postseason numbers. It did not nothing. His postseason numbers. Most 408 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: guys that we like elevate. You know, you said eva, 409 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 4: but you said nothing, like he's done nothing. 410 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: I told you this person looking up. I want you 411 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: to go look up a. 412 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: Point average. I'm not questioning average. Point said he's done 413 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: win me series. That's not what you said. 414 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: You said he does nothing. 415 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: Because that's not because for a start the NBA, that 416 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: is nothing. It's not always it's not always one player. 417 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: There's other people amazing teams. They won fifty games. 418 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 4: Now he's got Donovan Mitchell who can take kids some 419 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: of that, and that would be great for him. 420 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: But if Donovan Mitchell, who's had some times he probably 421 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: want to lean on somebody, that ain't the person to 422 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: lean on. And and and you can't be if you 423 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: look at a guy who has been m v P 424 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: and MVP runner a gazillion times like Harden. Usually that 425 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: guy has a ring. You look at k gotta ring, 426 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,479 Speaker 1: you look at Giannis gotta ring. 427 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 4: There's a lot of great players. Woman need to name 428 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: the great players who don't have rings. No, I'm not 429 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: I'm not questioning what is that? 430 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: What we all have? You not watched him play? Yeah? 431 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: Here, I don't know anybody that caliber of talent who 432 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 1: is at that any shortcomings? 433 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 3: No, but I'm but the idea. 434 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you're you're you're selling his numbers short 435 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 4: in the postseason because he's had clunkers, but he's also 436 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: had amazing games. I watched his kid and I say 437 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 4: kid now, but when he was with did you watch 438 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: him when he first started with Okac. 439 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: In the watch the final leading to that leading up today? 440 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 2: Was he not? 441 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: And that's what we were all watched might need his 442 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: own team and he was terrible in the finals. 443 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: That be his worst series ever. Okay, but he did 444 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 4: play umble. I couldn't believe the first two rounds. I 445 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 4: couldn't believe how great because he didn't have to lead. 446 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 4: It was Katie and. 447 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: Was off the bench leader. That's my point. 448 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: He didn't have to lead rob when he's been the guy. 449 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 4: We've all he's not the guy in Cleveland, so it 450 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 4: should work for his advantage. 451 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: That doesn't even make the guy in Cleveland hasn't done it. 452 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: So maybe they haven't done it. Haven't done it. 453 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: You have equal a whole. I don't buy no Cleveland. 454 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: You could not say that. 455 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: That's fine, but to say he's done nothing in the 456 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 4: postseason is fall. 457 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 458 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 459 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 460 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 2: listen live. 461 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: Somebody who had a great college career, not so much 462 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: to pros, but have a little little issue with somebody 463 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: who wants this jersey. 464 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 6: That's right, Matt Liinert said earlier this week on his 465 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 6: podcast with Jerry Ferrar from Entourage called The Throwback Show 466 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 6: that over the years, not under the Lincoln Riley era, 467 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 6: but over the years since he's been out of football, 468 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 6: the USC football program has approached him several times about 469 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 6: having his number eleven jersey unretire to give it to 470 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 6: a recruit, and Liner to his credit and said on 471 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 6: his podcast, no, hell no, I ain't doing that. More specifically, 472 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 6: here's what he said, absolutely effing not. I'm never gonna 473 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 6: unretire for some random dude who, by the way, now 474 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 6: could wear number eleven and then transfer after a year. 475 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 6: Said the only we had ever un retire my jersey 476 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 6: at USC is for one of my sons if they 477 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 6: happen to make it that far and they play ball 478 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 6: for the Trojans. 479 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: All right. 480 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 4: Matt Liner didn't make a lot of great decisions in college, 481 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: especially going back when he was going to be the 482 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 4: number one overall picks. I still say that's the craziest 483 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 4: because I've never heard of anybody who was going to 484 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: be the number one pick out of college who wanted 485 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 4: to go back to college and then drop to what 486 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: do you go tenth, eleventh somewhere like that the next year, 487 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 4: which I just like the number one pick, and and 488 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 4: you play your whole life and you're going to be 489 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 4: the number one pick. I just rolled the dice. You 490 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 4: could have got heard so many different things could happen, 491 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 4: but but, but, but finally, Matt Liner made the right decision. 492 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: I'm not giving up my number. Once they retire your number, 493 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: it should stay retired. There was a player for the 494 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: New York Giants. 495 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: Right, oh yeah, Carter, he wanted to get he wanted 496 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: launch tail. 497 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: Like, if I'm the Giants, do not ask, do not 498 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: make a quote for the paper, Do not ask for 499 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: Lawrence Taylor's fall number. 500 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: Like, can you stop? 501 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 4: I don't care if you wore up fifty six in 502 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: high school or what this is Lawrence Taylor of the 503 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: New York Football Giants. 504 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: Read the room. 505 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 4: Matt Lioner, you say all you want that that was 506 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: a machine that team, right, yes, no, Matt Lionerd, I'm 507 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: with him. Right some people I've said it was the 508 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 4: greatest team ever in college football. And he's supposed to 509 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 4: give up his number to somebody who might stay for 510 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: a couple of years, might be bouncing around, who might 511 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: be forty seven years old. I'm not doing it. I'm 512 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 4: not messing up my legacy. I'm not giving my number out. 513 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 4: And you could be like the Yankees and guess what, 514 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: Aaron Judges wearing number ninety nine for a reason because 515 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 4: they got a million numbers retired. Pick a death of 516 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: the number. 517 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: You know who I'm mad at in all of this. 518 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm mad at usc rob Gie. You just mentioned it. 519 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: The idea that that you allow someone to keep pressuring you, 520 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: then you pressure Matt. Hey, Matt, how's the family, how's 521 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: everything going? 522 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: Hey? 523 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: Real quick, it was wondering if you give up your 524 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: number again? You know, we're asking again that to me, 525 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: that's insulting the Matt Liner and all that he did 526 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: for that school. Matt Liner had that school lit for 527 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: a three four year you know, three year run. Obviously 528 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: you had the Carson Palmer before him. They kind of 529 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: had a nice stretch there with Pete Carroll. But my 530 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: point is, man, and that's part of the reason why 531 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: the Rob's always points. Since I've been here, we've talked 532 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: about it a halful of times. That's why he didn't 533 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: want to leave. They were this singular football team in 534 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. He was already in the NFL. They were 535 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: this is peak pre social media, so you can still 536 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: go to parties and wild out and not gonna be 537 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: on the phone and you know, somebody putting him out there. 538 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: Him and Reggie and Lyndale White and all those people 539 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: on those teams. They got to go hang out and 540 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: be stars and rock stars in LA. So that's why 541 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: he was like, shoot, I am I am the La Trojans, 542 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: so he felt like he was in the league. And 543 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why they would even ask him, 544 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: because you know what else he does robs both of y'all. 545 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Every time you ask. He puts me on the spot 546 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: to have to look like, quote unquote a jerk or something, 547 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: or an old head or a hater. And not that 548 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying everybody thinks that, because we all seem to 549 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: be on the same page in agreement, but it says 550 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: you keep asking me, Now I have to be that 551 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: guy again. You know I'm not gonna do that. I 552 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: get the first ask if they felt the need. Hey, 553 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: we got this gerber crue. You know we're teetering on 554 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: get it's in between him coming here going to Oklahoma. 555 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: But boy, if he said he can have that number eleven, 556 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: he would do it, Like all right, I get the 557 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: first ask. 558 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: After that, what are we doing? 559 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: Because now you're making me have to be the bad 560 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: guy perceptionally maybe for some people, repeatedly. So I'm mad 561 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: more at the university for we've been asking him. He 562 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: worked too hard to earn that respect. Clearly is not 563 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: like he's going in the NFL Hall of Fame. Where 564 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: he could say, maybe I'll just focus and focus on 565 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: that one more. So leave him alone and don't ask 566 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: him again. He's absolutely right, And I'm to your last 567 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: point you were saying, Rob, I'm kind of appalled that 568 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: these kids keep asking. It's one thing if you're the 569 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: new guy on the team and you want to pay. Hey, 570 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: here's fifty thousand. I heard Rob Parker wears number ten. 571 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: I want number ten, but you're current. You're a current player. Hey, Rob, 572 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: here's fifty thousand. If you don't mind, I get your jersey. 573 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: Say all right, cool, I'll swap numbers with you because 574 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: you're playing actively, not someone who's a legend in retired. 575 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 4: But what's the point on retiring a number if you're 576 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: gonna issue it out again? And I do blame the 577 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: schools and the same thing, like numbers they even know, 578 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: like like even before Derek Jeter's number it goes to 579 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, is gonna be retired at yet? 580 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: Data you know that number? 581 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: The equipment manager takes that out of a circulation. No, 582 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: the new young shortstop can't have number two. It ain't 583 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 4: happening like like that. 584 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: Hey, how what's up? I'm such to such agent. Can 585 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: I can he get numbers three? 586 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 3: Number two? 587 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? 588 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: He said he he'd be happy if you'll drafted if 589 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: he can get number two. Like what I'm saying like 590 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: like none of it makes any sense. It should never 591 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: come to that. It should never come to that. And 592 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: and Matt Liner has the right. What was the purpose 593 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: of the ceremony? 594 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: And my numbers retired and the memories and then some 595 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: other guys wear number eleven? 596 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 3: Right is it eleven? Yeah? That's my point. 597 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: You keep asking me to making me look like the 598 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: bad guy, put me on the spot or making me 599 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: feel weird or now I gotta tell a kid no, 600 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: and like leave me alone. I told you the first time, 601 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: go away. No, I'm done. Simple as that. I'm trying 602 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: to think. Is there any he said it best with 603 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: his son. If you're talking about an instance where you 604 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: would his son that is a foe, that's like an honor, 605 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: right yeah. 606 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: Well it would be in a family, right, and you'd 607 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: have the same you know, tame name. 608 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: Say, yeah, an honor. 609 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean unless you have a you know, like if 610 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: you don't have kids, you have a godson or in 611 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: that family. But again family, but that that's about it. 612 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: That's the only thing I can think of that I 613 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: would that I would do, because I can't think of 614 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: any other scenario like I would. 615 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 4: I was trying to think of another situation of anybody. 616 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: Let me throw you Rob Parker's jersey, baseball jersey. What 617 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: was in high school? What high school did you go to? 618 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: Van Buren? Van Buren says, you know they retired your heights, 619 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: your baseball jersey. I didn't play, so scratch you. Let's 620 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: go to your college Southern Connectic. Southern CONNECTI just a hypothetical. 621 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: You played in southern Connecticut. They recently retired your jersey. 622 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: Another kid coming from your high school, from your own neighborhood. No, no, 623 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: you didn't even make you make your own. Now make 624 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: your own trying to give you. 625 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: Maybe he's from the neighborhood, from the high school. Now 626 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 3: he's coming. I'll deep you up, I'll help you all 627 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: you can, I'll. 628 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: Do all that. 629 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: You're not you never would have been number seven. 630 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: That's when come on, mister Parker man, I've been everybody 631 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: the neighborhood always told me about you. 632 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: Can I get the number seven? 633 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not. I'm not giving up my number 634 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: that I love it. That's what makes it special. 635 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: You ain't lying. You got to have certain things that 636 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: I wouldn't good. 637 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: Enough know anywhere to get, you know, retired, but number 638 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: ten and pioneered. Yea if somebody yeah since uh like 639 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: middle school, you know they because no real rhyme, saw. 640 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: Some jerseys and all that. 641 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: And I row my daughter uh trying to you know, 642 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: try to get number ten recently out of said too many. 643 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 3: Tiers that she got it. So I'm glad you didn't 644 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: get it. 645 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, but yeah, like I thought, I tried to 646 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 1: pay the scenario Roger, you you all right with that? 647 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: Or getting my number retired? 648 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: No? 649 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: Giving it up? Oh yeah, I'm giving it up. Yeah. 650 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: So I wonder what teams like, because you see this 651 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 6: in the NFL, like the Raiders, the Cowboys, I want 652 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 6: to say, Atlanta like, they do not retire jerseys. So 653 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 6: if that, if you're gonna bother to ask a guy 654 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 6: like Matt Lanner, who's a legend in that program, would 655 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 6: you just say we're not retiring any jerseys from now. 656 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: So one of the Cowboys just too. I don't think 657 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: that that's enough, I really do. I think I don't 658 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 4: know what the issue is of retiring somebody's number that 659 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: they never would and. 660 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 3: Again and again. 661 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: The Cowboys and Yankees are on par like as far 662 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 4: as you know for for for their sports. The Yankees 663 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: have retired numbers, and I think that's a tradition in baseball, definitely, 664 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: of retiring somebody's numbers. You don't want to get carried away. 665 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: But the Yankees have twenty seven World championship. I don't 666 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: know is that being carried away our team? I think 667 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: the Mets get carried away. They got one to no. 668 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 4: Two championships in their existence, right since nineteen sixty two, 669 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: and they got ten people's numbers retired. 670 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: It seems like a little bit high there's to get 671 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: to get all those names, right. 672 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody can score in this game as any two 673 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: to two two, and this whole over five minutes you 674 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: get we got four phasically fifty seconds left here. 675 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: It's crazy, all right. 676 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: By the way, A J debonsa b YU currently down 677 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: thirteen to Texas. He's been great, just scoring another buy. 678 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: You could tell he said screw everybody else. Watch his 679 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: bucket here, Rober he said, screw everybody else. I'm going 680 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't care about nobody give me this layout. They're 681 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: down thirteen with that. Was it seven minutes left? I 682 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: couldn't see it. I think it was seven minutes or so. 683 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, this is why we watched Man