WEBVTT - Jaren Johnston 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:14.880 Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:18.279 She's only this side. You got the snoop on the 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.040 on the on side, no one can do with clid 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:36.320 Carala Carola. No one can do with Cli Carola Carola. Hey, y'all, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.800 welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.519 I know music, I know people, and I know the 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.440 questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.479 heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:54.640 could be adult content. Today is so exciting. Actually, I'd 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:56.960 like to say today is going to rock your face 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.960 off because I have Jaren Johnston from the Cattle I 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.360 three and he rocks so hard. He's joining me today. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.120 He has written You're Gonna Fly by Keither, have Been 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.240 Southern Girl by Tim McGraw, Days of Gold and Beaching 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:12.360 by Jay Going Raise Him Up by Keither, to name 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:14.760 a few. He is such a badass. He's also in 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.920 a killer band, like I said before, the Cadillac Three. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.119 They are so great. If you haven't heard of me yet, 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:21.640 make sure you check them out because they are just 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.000 cool to the core. And at the end of this interview, 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.760 his beautiful wife, Evan pops in and talks about what 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.400 it's like being married to a touring artist because they 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.399 have been together for over fifteen years and they're expecting 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.800 their first child. So this is such a great interview, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.640 so much in it. Cannot wait for y'all to hear 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:46.040 Jared Johnston, Well, hi Jared Johnston. Hello. Do people pronounce 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.040 the tea or do they skip it? Sometimes they don't? 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.920 We get Jared Johnson sometimes and those are usually people 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.280 I don't hang out with anymore. Do you but lose guy? 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:58.360 I'm not the foot long guy. Oh Jared? Uh? Yeah, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.600 there was a guy named Jared, but it was in Johnson. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.280 Is there, Jared Johnson? Is that a real person? I 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.240 would imagine somewhere out there? This probably sounds like a 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:10.680 job for Google. Okay Jaren Johnston and the hiss e 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.000 asked Cappy and ask Cappy. Okay, I'm sorry off with 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.240 a few questions. Okay, so just answer what first comes 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:25.160 to mind. Who do you admire and look up to? Um? 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.600 Huge Tom petty fan um look up to? Is weird? 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.400 You know? I think everybody, every musician. I think your 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.440 husband will probably say the same thing. Wants to be 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.680 Tom Petty. I think Tom Petty is the ultimate on 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.079 like a cool level and on a songwriting level. That's 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.160 a pretty cool thing. I look up to those kind 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:46.720 of people make Jagger all the nostalgic rock stars. Okay, great, 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.600 if you could have This is a very traditional question, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.280 but I actually really want to know because I think 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.600 it's gonna be interesting with you. If you could have 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.520 a party, dinner party with five people, who would they be? 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.160 Obviously your beautiful wife, Yeah, yeah, I probably am by 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.880 my wife, excluding your gorgeous wife. He's pregnant with a 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:07.480 baby in April, coming out. So if I could have 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.799 a dinner part with five people, Chuck Norris would definitely 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.639 be there. You're a Chuck Norris fan, Well that would 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.600 be amazing because you're like a secret ninja hunh Yeah, 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:17.920 well I'm gonna go through those first such Actually, it 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.440 would just be such a cool dinner if I could 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.680 have Chuck Norris, John claud and down, Bruce Lee, Mike Tyson, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:29.399 and let's throw in uh Rhonda Rolsie. I didn't realize 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.760 that you were, Like just think of the conversations that 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.280 would be had, Like, it would be a lot of 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.240 I could kick your ass so you could kick my 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.680 would you jump in on that? No, I would. I 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.720 would strike the conversation and be like, so, which style 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.680 of fighting do you think would really win this whole thing? 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.880 And then it just gets you know, the real question 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.920 is what do you eat? Well? I bet you they 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:54.240 eat like chicken and but bear chicken and find no drinking. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.840 I'm drinking. But don't you think this? People are pretty strict. 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.240 I guarantee Chuting Norris probably drinking. Chuck Norris is probably drinking. Yeah, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.280 this is probably a dam McGuinness right now with my sister. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.240 I think he drinks Prune juice and and Uh and 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.680 Jack Daniels, Little Jet Daniels, and Prune. I can't believe 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:16.240 that's the people you would pick for your dinner party. 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.200 I didn't know you had the secret love for like 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.680 ninja fighting, I do. I'm a big fan of old 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.039 karate movies and stuff like that. Did you watch Karate 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.320 Kid growing up? Hell? Yeah, I wanted to be Daniel 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.039 LaRusso really bad. Can you can you kick real high? 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.880 Don't get me going. It's Tuesday. I kicked really high 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.240 on Tuesday's so okay. Good to know there's the reason 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.320 why pants are split right now. They actually are. Really 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.559 that happens to Michael all the time. I swear like kids, 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:48.120 crotch just it just falls out. There's two two reasons. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.600 Let me tell you what. Let me tell you why. 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.320 I'm just kidding. Is that just the thing that happens 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.200 with the guy J I never have crotched. I think 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:57.440 it's the country Western rock and roll thing. You know. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.600 I guaranteed Dwight Yoakom had the same problem back in 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:02.359 the day. Oh his jeans are tight? Yes? Do you 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:09.520 like hygiene? Okay? What motivates you? What motivates you to 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.839 get out of bed? Like? What's your inspiration that you 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.240 think of? Um? Like an honest answer, I would say, like, 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.400 I really I'm one of the few people that that 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.719 gets to do what he does for a living that 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.560 he actually one of the things he really loves. So, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.440 you know, writing songs has always been a really fun 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.000 thing for me to do, and it just so happens 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:30.840 that it's a very you know, well paying job if 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.120 you get it going right. Yeah, So it's that's been 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.400 very exciting um to do that kind of stuff. And 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.960 I love touring with my band. You know, three best 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.400 two best friends in the world. Um, that kind of thing. Obviously, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.680 my beautiful wife is she she motivates me to get 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:45.440 out of the bed and she's like, I'm up so Europe, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.800 you know, having a baby and everything. I would imagine 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.000 that's gonna be more and more of that, but that 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.080 I'm I'm motivated heavily by music and it's always been 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.520 a lot of fun for me. You know. So your 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.840 dad was in a band called Bandana. Is that or 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.039 you got your love for music? Was it just like 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.080 in your veins when you were born? Yeah? I think 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:05.839 growing up in it, you know, whether it was mom 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.720 playing at the church on the Oregon or we were 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.360 one of those families that sit in the front row 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.440 on the right right by mom as she played the organ. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:18.159 The organ's heart. It was a very vanilla organ playing situation, 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.360 but there's like four keyboards and all sorts of pedals. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:25.120 She was rocking it. Yeah, on Sundays and Wednesday. Yeah, 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:26.640 so that that guy, you know, growing up in that 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:28.440 and then dad being in the in the business, and 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.280 um going at such a young age two shows like 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.039 the Operator going out in the road with him and 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.520 stuff and seeing that, and you know, I was always 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:38.360 in thraw with a tour bus and like just that 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.800 rock star thing. It was really cool. So I guess 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.480 to see that at an early age and to find 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.080 out that I did have some sort of talent, whether 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:47.120 it was from dad or whatever, just being around it 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.640 that I could keep a beat and I could sing, 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.560 and I could play guitar really easily. Just kind of 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:55.039 those things kind of came easier to me than um math, 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.919 which is crazy because playing guitars and drums is very 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.240 That's like rubbing your patting your head. Yeah, it's very 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.000 hard to do that. I think it's interesting that didn't 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.039 you start off as a drummer before you moved to singing, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.920 which is crazy because you have this insane voice. Right, 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.560 How did you check out the record? If you haven't 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.400 heard it anyways, exactly which we will get to all that. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.160 How did you Why did you not start singing? Why 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.680 did you not originally start as a singer? Because dad 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.840 was a drummer, and so that's just what in fifth 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.560 grade you get to pick an instrument, you know, and 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.360 obviously leaned towards drums because that's what I wanted. Everybody 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.000 wants to be like your dad. Most people do at least, 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.320 and so I went into the drum world and I 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:37.840 really loved it, and it was really good at and 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.200 actually made a decent living at it for a while. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.160 And then I really when I was like thirteen, I've 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.840 started playing guitar badly Nirvana and stuff like that, trying 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.360 to pick out songs, and then I started realizing that 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.040 I could write songs and stuff. And you know, how 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.680 did you realize you can start writing songs? When did 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.600 that kick out? I think I just started one day 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.120 and I was like, oh, I can do this. And 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.440 they were really bad for years, you know, but then 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:04.080 you finally figure out you can do it, you know, decently. 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.920 I don't know why I didn't. I mean, I guess 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.040 that's why I didn't. I didn't notice start singing at 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:10.320 the beginning, you know what I mean, because I didn't 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.120 have anybody in my family that did that drumming was 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.640 your ma saw that? So that's what And then you're like, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:19.920 oh my god, Okay, so you started bands when you 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.800 were you started playing music obviously from birth pretty much. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.360 When did you form your first band? Because you've been 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.840 in several bands and you've had a very long history 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.160 in music. I see what you're saying here, I'm just saying. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.160 I'm just saying you started young, and did we? I 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.200 think we had. Our first band was called the Trolls 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.480 of Fortune. I was thirteen years old and it was 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:46.040 a very exciting experience. The Trolls Fortune. Yeah, that was 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:48.840 real deal. What did that music sounds? It sounded like 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.520 really really bad rage against the machine mixed with you know, 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:53.960 I want to be Nirvan and I think with a 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.800 guy rapping on it. Okay, so what a your guitar? 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.719 And actual? What were you when you came up with 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.760 that band? Thirteen? I think we're thirty fourteen years or 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.880 something like that. Okay, how did you do? Land on Trolls? 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.840 It just felt right, you know, I have no idea, honestly. 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.400 That was just something my goofy friend that was in 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.240 the band when me Phil, he came up with that 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:14.720 name and it was funny, so he went with it. 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.920 And then okay, after Trolls of Fortune unfortunately disband. Was 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.320 it a sad day? It was when the world lost 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:25.000 a good one day? Um? Yeah, after we yeah, I 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:26.480 don't know that. It was kind of a joke band, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:27.880 but then we all started getting serious with it and 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.520 then we all, you're like the coolest kids in junior 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:31.440 high high school pretty much for sure we thought we were. 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.200 And then we definitely kind of a split up into 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.160 kind of real band side. Is that one? Were you 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:39.040 the one that started the Nick Kicks? No, I just 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.000 joined the Kicks. That joined the Kicks, Yeah I was. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.800 That was ten years later. I actually fifty five years old. 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.319 I have an amazing person that does my stuff. Please 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:49.760 give me your person I need I need to know 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:55.200 her secrets. Oh he is really good. It's like every 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.439 night she's over here, it's just staring at me. So 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.199 she was like, well, I mean the face does look good. 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:02.520 You are ageless? Yeah, it's true. After Trolls of Fortune, 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.160 what came next? Just high school and you're playing like 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.800 that's when I met Kelby and uh Neil and been 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:09.760 like all my guys that I kind of started playing with. 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.760 And you're an original National, Native born and raised, which 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.480 I kind of feel like it's almost unicornish. Yeah it is. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.840 Actually I was born right over there at Baptist Hospital 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.040 and I went to high school right there on the 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:21.880 other side of that thing. So National is your town? 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.440 It is? Are you do? Have you liked the way 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:26.480 it's grown, because it's like shot up over the past 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.600 tenures especially, I feel like, I like, you know, like 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:32.000 certain talents and certain people that it's brought to town, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.120 like hobbies of great example, I wouldn't have met Michael 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.720 if if you know, he hadn't moved here. I like 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.280 that aspect. I don't like how it's gotten so condo 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.439 ish and knocking down studios for all that ship. That's 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.960 kind of been a bummer. But it's a neat thing 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.840 to be a part of a growth and a part 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:48.360 of a city that is growing in a way that 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.920 everybody has taken notice. So but yeah, that's my thoughts 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:56.000 on that. So originally you were in Bang Bang Bang, 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:00.400 and that was with Kelby and also oh who you're 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:01.960 so in the man and you also had your friend 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:06.680 Ben Brown. Y'all. I remember when I moved to Nashville 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.880 and I first started dating Michael, who you're friends with 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:13.520 my husband. Now, you guys owned this town, like everyone 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:18.080 went to Bang Bang Bang. It was good time Nashville. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.400 To me, it was the music that everyone wanted to 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.280 be a part of, hang out with, go to the shows. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.040 How did y'all get that cool vibe? Going, and how 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.640 did you guys get together because Kelby was in a 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.320 band called Lama. Was that right that, Neil? Yeah, we 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:32.800 were all The Lama thing was like when we were 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:34.920 in high school and they got a record deal and 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:37.160 we were all kind of in that little circle and 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.559 we were just all playing with different people, but we 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.240 all had a kind of a cool thing, which is 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.040 very similar to what happened when the Bang Bang Bang 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.480 things started. Um, we started that band and we kind 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:48.520 of you know, like I said, we all went to 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.959 high school together. We started that band, and then you 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.720 had certain bands that also were popping around up around town, 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.840 like Paramore and the Kings were already kind of because 0:11:57.880 --> 0:11:59.960 your friends with all them, right, yeah, the future kind 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.880 kind of you know, well, you all kind of grew up, 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.800 came up together, and then you know, autivon on these 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.559 cool bands, underground bands that were rocking at the same time. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.120 It's kind of like a little movement. And I guess 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.079 Bang Bang Bang was like the biggest of those bands 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:18.280 that wasn't huge. So you had Paramore and the Kings, 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.280 but you guys were like the top. We were big 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.040 in town. But yeah, that was about it, and then 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.320 we got a record deal and things happen, and you know, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.640 we changed it to American Bang and years later, I'm 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.840 still doing this ship. Years later, you're still dominating this ship. 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.000 So you go from Bang Bang Bang and then you'll 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.560 change to American Bang. You signed with Warner Brothers and 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.920 Bob Rock produces you guys, which is mega because he's 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.199 done some major, big stuff. Yeah, I know, he's was 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.319 amazing experience working my Bob. What was that? Like? Who's 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:50.640 he done? Uh? One of my favorite I We did 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.920 the Black Album, which is Metallica's kind of staple record. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.760 That made him huge. But you know, he did Permanent 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.880 Vacation Byra Smith. Um. I mean, the Cult did all 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.520 kinds of great stuff. He's in his own band, the 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.520 payol As Two, that was pretty rad. Um. He's just 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:07.840 like the quintessential rock producer that everybody at one point 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.520 or one time wanted to be with, you know, so, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.600 and he's maintained that kind of thing for the last 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.720 thirty years. So it's yeah, he was pretty incredible. Did 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.560 you always know that you were going to be in 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.200 company with these greats? Like, did you always feel that 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.440 because you are? Are you hope you hope that you 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.520 know that at some point like now where we are 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.000 now and the people that I run around with and 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:35.560 the random people that text me like keitherban Ja, Florida, Georgia, well, 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.000 I mean like Steven Tyler R. Steven Tyler is like 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.319 your friends, right. Stuff that happens like that is is 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.959 a very crazy thing. Like you always hope that you're 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.080 going to be able to get there one day, and 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.640 then it kind of happens, and then it happens over 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.080 time and you kind of take it for granted and 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.040 you find yourself not taking certain calls and you're like, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.160 what am I doing? You know what I mean? And 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.520 that's so stupid. But it's like, you know, it's goes 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.440 back to that childhood dream of morning to be in 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.800 this situation. You know. So this is a question that 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:03.800 one of my main things I love about doing these 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:07.199 interviews and talking to people like you. Is it unearthed? 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.560 People might look at you and they could say, like, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.800 Jared's written, I mean, what six number one hits? Or 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.000 is it seven? Homework? How many is it? Is it eight? 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.720 It should be eight? But it's actually seven? Yeah, I 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:26.280 got screwed on. Meanwhile, back at Mama's Dirks, and druncon 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.760 a plane kept me out dirks. I thought he was 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:34.360 your buddy, was past hint, Yeah exactly. So that was 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.240 like that's basically number one. So you've had like eight 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.480 monster songs. Okay, So this is what I always like 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.080 to talk about with people is everyone thinks it's so 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.680 glamorous and so easy and they see these people living 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.800 these life style style was hanging out with these people like, 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.720 oh my god, that's so easy for you. Like music 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.800 must be just be such a blast and so much fun. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.160 Obviously it is such a blast and so much fun, 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.800 but it takes major perseverance. Like obviously you've been doing 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.480 music since you were a kid, going through several record deals. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.960 How do you not get discouraged when things don't go 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:05.720 the way you want them to when you when you 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.800 know that you have the talent and they should it's stuff. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.920 You have to know how to live broke and stick 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.160 with the dream of it will happen one day. You 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:17.240 say that to yourself forever, you know, and then finally 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.040 you get yourself to a point where you're just like, 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.440 one thing happens and then it's very well, it was 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.720 the first thing, your first thing you remember The first 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:26.560 thing that happened that was crazy was when I started 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.960 getting just little cuts, you know what I mean. And 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:30.600 then I had my first number one with Keith and 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.840 You're Gonna Fly. And I remember at that moment was 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.440 you know, we were like we were kind of oh, well, 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.160 this is happening, and I was like, that's a big 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.280 song too, and I was thinking, just as a kid, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.240 you don't know it, like I'm gonna be rich, you know, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:42.800 like that kind of thing, which is not the case, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.600 but it's but it's great. It's much more rich than 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.360 you were, but it's very neat now. And I mean 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.200 even before that, like the first thing that happens you 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.440 get your first pub deal where somebody tells you that 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.080 they're going to pay you to write songs for a living, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.400 which is crazy. And that's when you stop waiting tables 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.160 and you're like, I'm doing this for real. I'm one 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.280 of those guys that actually get to do this. But 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:01.920 do you know what I heard, there's only like three 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.400 hundred and sixty people who have publishing deals. I don't know, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:07.400 maybe that's even too many. Maybe it was like a 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.760 hundred and sixty people actually have publishing deals and has 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.160 a job, I have no idea. So it's a very 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:14.760 small percentage of people who get to do this for 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.920 a living. Yeah it is. But you know that's one 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.520 of those things that set you up to where that's 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.200 just the beginning and you're like, oh, I've made it. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:22.920 I've got a job, but you gotta keep the job. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:25.320 So it's like that's what it's kind of. It gets 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.040 kind of intense and it's very competitive, especially these days. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.400 You know, do you ever have a hard time celebrating 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.080 a big hit because you know, as soon as that 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.320 celebrations ever, it's you gotta start right back over do 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.640 just not think about them? No, I mean we we 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.440 usually go out pretty good whenever there's a number one 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:41.400 party or whatever, you know. I mean there's a time 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.160 when Nil and I would meet a rumbo when it 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.400 was still open over there. Every time we got a 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.440 hold or a cut or anything, you know, we'd sit 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.000 there like we're getting hammered tonight. We gotta hold, we 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.080 gotta you know, Chris Cagle hold or you know whatever. 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.720 It is, like it could have been anybody and you 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.000 get so excited. But yeah, we still get really excited 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.400 about all the little things like that. I do think 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.240 it's important to celebrate all the victories. Yeah, I remember 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:08.680 celebrating my stealing angels. Hold, did you really? I never 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.680 had a stealing angels. Hold. You guys wouldn't cut it? 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.240 You of my stuff. I'm telling you. I when I 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.680 was a song plugger, I would be so excited when 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.119 you were write with our writers. The first hole I 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.520 ever got, you know, I was that um young Guns 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.240 publishing and the first hole that I ever got was 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:30.760 picking up pretty Little Hot Sun, and I pitched it 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:32.960 to every person in the world and like four people 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:34.640 put it on hold. And I remember thinking like, oh 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.840 my god, this song's gonna get cut, because every song 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.560 you write to me should be a hit. That song 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.200 still hasn't gotten cut, by the way, which is so good, 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.600 I know. And that's the thing that like blows my mind. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.480 And I'm sure as a hit songwriter and someone who 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.840 writes all the time, is it frustrating when the songs 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.439 that you write are so good just get overlooked Sometimes 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.800 I know a lot of them don't obviously it is, though, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.840 And I just had a meeting earlier today about a 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.640 couple of songs that we were wondering. One nobody's taking 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.720 them yet, and a couple of people have held them, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.200 you know, and then they let them go, and you're 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.840 just like, I mean, that's the way it was for years, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.400 you know. So it's like, I guess it just they 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.440 have to make their own their rounds. And I think 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.080 a lot of it's about timing, whether or not an 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:14.200 artist is feeling that moment or that kind of thing 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.240 for that this record, or if they're cutting it all. 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.280 So it's you know, it's a lot about timing. So 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.160 you're also really good, in my opinion, and I feel 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.200 like you're really great at this, and my husband's really 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.000 good at it too, kind of like not reinventing yourself, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.719 but learning how to like dance with the times because 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.960 obviously rock radio sort of shut down and you are 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.640 rooted in rock, my husband, Michael and Thalsmore just rooted 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.840 in rock, but there is no rock radio anymore. Do 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.880 you feel like country has sort of morphed into that 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.959 genre for where rock meets country, I think it's, you know, 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.960 it's obviously with the you know, the way that some 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.560 of the artists that have started making records like like 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.480 they do. Eric Church is a great example. I think 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.760 that the genre. I don't know that the genre is 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.919 actually open to this, but it's just kind of naturally 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.919 happened with Stableton all these guys that are coming in 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.560 and doing not not necessarily raw, they're just doing their 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.000 version of country, and so it's you know, I grew 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:10.480 up in Nashvillas around country music my whole life. You know. Um, 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:12.800 I think my version, whether you want to call it 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.280 rock and roll or country western or whatever, Southern rock, 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.760 I think it's just my version of what I grew 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.040 up in, you know what I mean. So I think 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.520 the country Johnas, I'm really happy the way that it's 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.880 embraced a couple of us when giving us a home 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:28.959 as far as the genre goes, because you have rock 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:30.959 and roll radio is tough these days and I did 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.640 it for years. Um, but you know, that's what's great 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.880 about country music is it's it embraces the Sam Hunts 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.359 who are extremely far pop, you know, or the casey 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.960 musgrads who are very Texas kind of you know, whatever 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.280 that is. And then there's also room for us. Now 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.000 whether or not country radio embraces it all the way 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.440 and you know, takes it to the top, I don't 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.680 know that. I don't know that that's gonna happen yet, 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:56.040 but I think it's heading that way because the ones 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:57.760 that of us that are doing our own thing or 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.879 building a fan base, that there's going to be demand 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:02.479 for those people in the radio. So it's it's it's 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.119 exciting times in the country genre, I think. And also 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.880 I feel like country music is blowing up in Europe 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:09.960 and you guys have gone overseas and I feel like, 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:11.520 y'all just knock it out of the park. What is 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.560 it like over there? Do you feel like Tom Petty 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.399 because y'all y'all shows are crazy. Well, it's neat over 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.600 there because you know that the Heartbreakers went over there 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:21.480 first and they were big in Japan before they were 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.880 anything over here. And I think that was our main 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.840 mindset of going over there first. And we were one 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.080 of the first countryman's US and Eric to go over 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.760 there three or four years ago. And I mean now 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.439 it's you know, we're bigger over there than we are 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.959 here in most places, and it's you know, it's surreal. 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.560 It's crazy they that you have this people that are 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:42.080 singing along in this to this genre that's talking about 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.800 something they know absolutely nothing about but they want to 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:46.680 be a part of it. So it's it's really neat 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.840 to be kind of leading that back because now everybody's 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.680 going over there, you know. So it's it's cool, m 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:56.040 so not to put you on the spot or making 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.040 but kind of to put me on this well, I mean, 0:20:58.200 --> 0:20:59.600 we just have to go through will you just run 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.200 through your it's for me, the ones that you've written 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.159 for other people, what you've written and who there for 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:07.080 I wrote You're Gonna Fly of Keith Urban even remember 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:11.040 how to do him? And Southern Girl mcgrawl, Sunshine Whiskey, 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.919 Frankie Ballard, don't It Billy Currington, Beach in Jaco and 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.840 American Country Love Home Song Jaco And meanwhile back at 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:24.720 Mama's to mcgrawl, that's American Gold. Oh no, that's maybe 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:29.440 when Michael trying to it's not like they got to 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.760 raise him up by Keith Urban and days of Gold. 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:37.080 That's what. Yeah, Yeah, there's I mean, there's you know, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.520 there's a bunch of it's it's been a very cool 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:42.720 couple of years. Is it crazy or is it normal 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.320 that Keith Urban comes over to your house to write 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.959 with you? It's that's pretty weird. He's He showed up 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:48.359 in my house the other day to play on our 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.080 our new Catlot record, and he was in this like, 0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.520 you know, I think Evan and I are doing pretty good. 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:54.960 You know, I've got my truck out there, in my 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:57.200 old truck, and he pulls up in like a five 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:02.800 thousand dollar Bugatti Batmobile and I'm just like, oh hey, 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.920 I'm like shutting my garage door really quick. Doesn't it 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:09.160 doesn't seem old, but now it's really cool. And it's it's, 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.240 like I said, it's one of those moments you hope 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.200 at some point you're gonna get to that point in 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:14.920 your career, and it's it's kind of happened. You know. 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:19.560 Has Keith Urban or anyone in particular been someone that 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:23.199 you've like talked to, like leaned on to for not 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.280 advice about how to navigate this industry? But I still 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:26.880 I think of someone like Keith like it was never 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.439 a perfectly smooth road for him either. Yeah. I mean 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.479 we've talked about I think a lot of Dirk's has 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.560 been a really you know, he's helped us out a lot. 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.160 Eric has helped us out a lot. Um, So you're 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:40.560 Dirk's Eric Keith like all these people. Yeah, that's crazy 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:42.919 the f g L guys, And honestly is we've been 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:44.760 friends for so long and we kind of both started 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.919 in the bars together there. You know, they're in private 0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:51.119 jets and things now, but they they were there in 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.040 those moments when we were both starting out. So they're 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.560 fun to bounce ideas off too. You know, they don't 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.400 really get our world right now because like I said, 0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.199 they're in private jet, but they're like, man, just you know, 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.800 get it, man, just get a jet dog one. Yeah. 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.320 Just everybody's been really cool, and I think there's a 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.639 lot of people in town that are rooting for a 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.480 band like us. Everyone well, and it's not even rooting 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.280 like to me, you guys are are the band in town. 0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:17.720 Like when you think of like the coolest guys in Nashville, 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.680 it's always been Bang Bang Bang American ban Cat. Whatever 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.080 you guys are doing is the coolest sound that you hear. 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.600 That hobby. Michael would probably agree with me. He would. 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.400 He would probably have to say, oh yeah, I get 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.760 nice text messages from him every now and then. Michael 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.240 has a he has a man crush on you. Yayo 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.000 bromance a look, it's it's friendship. But he also has 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.119 like mad respect for you. Oh yeah, heck yeah he 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:40.760 probably Kary, why are you making me look like good 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:43.480 sissy daring on your podcast? Yeah? Why are you making 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:49.080 jarreming like that's sissy? So do you enjoy is it 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.480 a tie or is it even like can you even compare? 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.359 Do you enjoy being a songwriter or an artist or 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.440 is it like two different children because you're also a 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.280 producer and a publisher, Like do you have a preference 0:23:59.440 --> 0:24:01.320 over what you love to do the most? Let's go 0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.919 a songwriter and artist. Yeah, I like the songwrit an 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:05.879 artist kind of gives me Jacklin High. It gives me 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.159 the chance to flex these muscles over here and the 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.320 check to the chance to flex these like creative muscles 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.800 over here where I can write a song about something 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.680 that I don't necessarily want to sing every night, you 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.920 know what I mean, or live live someone else's life 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.440 story like it doesn't match you, you know what I mean, 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.040 and still see the success of that song. So yeah, 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.040 it is kind of like two children where you know, 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:28.400 I still want these to do good and I want 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.239 these to do good, and it's it's fun for I mean, 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:33.080 I you know, if I wasn't with Nil and Kelby, 0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:34.720 it wouldn't I wouldn't be doing that, you know, and 0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:36.080 I wouldn't just be I'm not gonna go do it 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.040 Jaren Johnson sings the Blues record or whatever. You know 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:41.720 what I mean, that's not I do it because we 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.000 have such a blast with it as friends, growing up 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.800 together and pursuing that dream and actually kind of starting 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.040 to taste it is very very cool. But then over 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.240 here it's an equal love because I love songwriting and 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.240 I love the getting the success. I've seen a song 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:56.919 go at the charts and have one of your favorite 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.440 singers sing it, and you know it's it's neat man. 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.320 Both are amazing. What is it like being a band 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.719 with Kelby and Neil? What are the what? How does 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:09.600 it shake out? Like? What are the personalities? Mesh? I mean, 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:11.560 we've know each other so long, it's you know, I 0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:15.160 know when Kelby's hungry and he never gains weight. Oh yeah, 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.960 I know, when Neil's whatever. You know. I mean, we 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.880 just kind of bounce off each other and it's it's 0:25:20.880 --> 0:25:23.480 just it's just a machine that just rides, you know, 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:25.720 like we're we're we're great together with great band. We're 0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:29.360 on the stage, we're just like we are in real life, Like, uh, 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:31.560 we kind of moved together and we play together. You know, 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:33.600 there's no bullshit, there's no tracks, there's none of that. 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:36.439 It's just three dudes playing music together. And that's kind 0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:38.000 of the way we are in life too. It's just 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.119 three days going through life together. So I go pretty 0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:41.479 much in sync. Like you don't really have to even 0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.480 speak to each other to know what a word. We 0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:47.080 don't even talk about what we're opening with. Song wise, 0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:49.560 we just get out there and go, okay, are you serious? 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.760 Oh yeah, never we have set Are you kidding me? 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:55.480 So y'all don't sit there and playing out the show. 0:25:56.240 --> 0:25:58.600 You guys, just get out there rock yes, and you'll 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.280 just have a look and you know what's opening? Really, 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.879 can you change it? On this on a diamond? They're like, 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.680 everyone's just right there pretty much. Really, that's kind of amazing. 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:10.800 Do you feel like that's amazing? Because it is. There's 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:12.159 a reason I do it, you know. I mean, it's 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:14.560 a lot of fun because it's just it's very natural 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.760 with the three of Usten and listening about it is 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.400 you don't see that very often and genre you really don't. 0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:25.520 Everything's pretty prepared. Yes, I love that. I had no idea. 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.120 How don't you set list? That would kind of freak. 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.600 I guess when you've done it that long, you know 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:38.159 each other that well, do the new one? No? Okay, okay. 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.520 So speaking of Southern, your first single that came out 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.160 the South, the South, you like trying about the South 0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:47.840 and Southern and southern because that's you. I only have 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:50.120 a couple of tricks. You know. Well they say right way, 0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:53.760 you know, so clearly you're from the South. Your first 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:57.680 single on Big Machine was Superstar Setted. There was Florida, Georgia, Line, 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:01.680 Dirk Spinley, Mike Eli from a young man. That's kind 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.639 of crazy to start off with a bang like that 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:07.080 and have that much support from the community, you know. Yeah, 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.320 And it was just it was a joke. Honestly. We 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:12.080 were like, we should get some guys that come over 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.040 and sing on this, and it is actually gonna be 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:17.760 a different song. And then for some reason, South ended 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.359 up being the one that we were cutting that day, 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:23.720 and Dirk's came over, FTL came over and Mike was 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.600 next door singing on an Alabama tribute record or something 0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.240 like that. So he was just there. Yeah, so he 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.520 came over and we've been friends for a while. We 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.480 just got off a two of them down in Texas. So, um, yeah, 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:35.040 it just worked out. I mean, and that was a 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.000 neat thing about that time, is like Dirk's had just 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:39.760 taken taken us out on the road. We were going 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.359 to do some shows we've gotten off the road with 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.560 FGL and they were really blowing up at the time, 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:45.159 and we were going to do a summer tour with 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.560 them the next year. Is that what you just came 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.520 off of? This, that's what we just got doing. So 0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:51.800 you know, it's just really neat to kind of have 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.480 it all kind of come together accidentally and sing on 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:57.280 a song that you know, kind of it was an 0:27:57.320 --> 0:28:00.960 icebreaker for us at you know, in this genre. I 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.800 love that. So you love to post pictures of your 0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:10.080 food on Instagram, I have a problem. Tell me about this. Uh, 0:28:10.960 --> 0:28:13.400 you just love to share what you eat because it's 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:15.320 so good. A lot of times I didn't take it 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.600 as it's a thing. Now everyone looks for your food. 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.560 Do it now? Just because a lot of people. It 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.439 makes so many people talk about and they get so 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.760 mad about it, or somebody's like, why do they get 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.000 mad about it? No, I'm hungry, I'm eating I'm eating 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:30.520 rice roney and you're on here, you know, like it's 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.840 a lot of Mexican food. Yeah, I love and yellow porch. Yeah, 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.000 we ate there last night actually, but I kind of 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:40.760 like know where y'all hanging based on your Instagram food picks. Yeah, 0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.200 And you know, I think it right now. I started 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.800 doing it just for fun. He's like, oh, this is great, 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.080 And now I do it just because people are always 0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:49.640 talking about it pretty much too. And I like a 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.560 good meal here, I mean, and if it looks really good, 0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:53.520 it's like I could put that filter on, it's gonna 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:58.080 look really good. Do you have a certain craving, like 0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:00.400 do you crave certain things? My wife is pregnant, and 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:02.920 I crave more than do you have like empathy cravings 0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.000 for her? Well, I'm always When she got pregnant, I 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.040 was so excited because I was like, this will this 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.160 will knock out the one thing we usually argue about 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:12.840 is what we're gonna eat at night, because I'll just 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.480 let her call it because I can eat anything. I 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.120 don't care. I just get excited about it. You are ready, Yeah, 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.080 I'm ready to go right now, and she goes. She 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:22.640 she doesn't really hasn't really craved much and so it's 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.040 still I'm like, you want to go to Asian? How 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.760 about Asian? And she's sick of Asian? She doesn't. Asian 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.000 hasn't been her thing. Why she's been printed. So we 0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.880 eat a lot of pizza, a lot of Mexicans stuff 0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.160 at that. But yeah, I do have I have cravings 0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:37.640 for Mexican like probably once twice a day. I don't 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.280 eat it once or twice to day sometimes, but but 0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:43.120 I do like it a lot. Well, it's amazing. Okay, 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:44.520 this sounds like a good time to bring evident. I 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:45.840 want to I want to just bring evident for the 0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:47.720 end of the interview just a little bit. You have 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.160 to come to it. You have to come. Come, come, 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.760 you do too. You have makeup on here? Yes, come 0:29:53.840 --> 0:30:08.440 say hey, hand up. Okay, you're not fat. What you 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.080 have in your stomach is called a baby. Okay, So 0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:13.800 first off, what are you having? Can we tell? Can 0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.440 you talk about it? Sure, we're having a boy. Do 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:20.480 we have a name? Not yet? Rambo our Chuck or 0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:27.600 what are all those Chuck? No, um, no name. We 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.040 haven't narrowed down, but we're not. You know what, I 0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.600 actually think that that's a really good idea not to 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.040 tell people, because then everyone gives you their opinion. You're like, oh, 0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:39.040 I knew someone named Chuck and he was the worst. 0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.560 Lots of opinions about names, and lots of opinions about 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:47.280 pregnancy in general, other people's pregnancy, which is strange. But um, yes, 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.280 so we have it narrowed down. But yeah, we're not. 0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:51.760 We're not doing what's some of the worst pregnancy advice 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.960 you've gotten from someone? Um, I get a lot, I 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.160 don't know, just people butting in where they're not supposed to. Um, 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.120 we're giving bird within in a private birth center. And 0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.640 I think a lot of people are hesitant and want 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.600 to know why you're not going to a hospital. But 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.320 it's really because hospitals freaked me out. That's why we're 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.040 not going to the hospital. Yeah, Jared would pass out 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:20.000 in a hospital. For him, who's the one giving labor here? Yeah, 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.080 well we really need to do I just work around 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.320 his schedule and if he's stressed out or not. But um, 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.680 but yeah, so I don't know, this is just all 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.400 kinds of stuff for people want to tell you what 0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.640 you should eat. Actually, I did have a lady while 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.120 we were down at the beach. I ordered a green 0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.120 juice and she told me that I should not be 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.240 having a green juice because of like the risk of 0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.640 there's lots of things listeria whatever. But um, I am 0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.080 very well educated and I drink green juice all the time. 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.000 But anyway, it's just funny when people want to try 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.160 to tell you what he was not a happy camper. 0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.280 She came to me and said, I want a smoothie, 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:56.320 but you have to go get it from that. That 0:31:56.360 --> 0:32:00.000 was the second time because I drink like green smoothie 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.200 reduces every day, and yeah, she like pissed me off, 0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:04.720 so I made Jarn go get it. The second time, 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:08.040 I almost didn't want one, but I needed one, so yeah, okay, 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:16.520 So I hyperd pregnancy blog point to recently interviewed the 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.120 wives of a thousand horses because I think it's a 0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:26.080 very interesting perspective the jockeys because we ride horses. Yes, yeah, 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.640 sex thing. It's like a sex thing. I think it's 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:30.239 a sex thing. Some of the girls don't think it's 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:31.600 funny to be a sex thing. But I mean in 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:33.000 a day, if you're not gonna have a funny name, 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.880 then what's the point. So how you have been y'all 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.280 been like high school sweetheart shopping together for how It'll 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:43.440 be sixteen in February, and y'all are just like not 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.160 even in your mid thirties. So that's crazy right out there. 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.400 So that's a long time you've been together along. Yeah, 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:52.080 she's she's a lucky girl. I've been putting up with 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.280 his crap for a long time. Okay, So that's kind 0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:55.960 of what I want to ask you. What is it 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.920 like being married to a musician? Like, obviously there's so 0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.960 many layers of it. Can you give us people who 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.520 listen who have no idea what it's like being married 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.040 to touring musician songwriter? I mean it's different for everybody. 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.280 This goes back to the advice thing. I'd never try 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.160 to tell people you know, I do it right and 0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.560 we have the secret or anything like that. But um, 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:18.880 I mean, you've got to have your own life. You've 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:22.160 got to be really invested in yourself, and you have 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:28.320 to stay busy and find things that you love. M Well, yeah, 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.160 if you didn't like the music, I don't think you 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.280 could be with someone, do you know. I think that 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.920 that's part of it too. Um, But yeah, you just 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.320 have to stay busy. You just have to find your 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.800 own things and find your own life, and and you 0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.160 can't be too codependent because then you'll just be lonely 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.680 and sad and you know, so you've just got to 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.440 You've got to stay involved in things going on with you. 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.520 And then you also just have to be supportive and 0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.840 patient and hopefully find somebody that does the same for you. 0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.920 And we've just we've grown up together in the right way. 0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.080 So we just we got lucky like that. So for 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.040 all you girls out there looking for a man in 0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.640 a band, they'll be discouraged. It can happen to you too. 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:09.880 I would not recommend it. I'm just kidding. I do 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:13.800 agree with you, though, having your own thing is crucial 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:15.960 because if you don't, I feel like you could get 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:19.160 not you a wife or a spouse, or someone could 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.080 get lost in it all. In a way. Yeah, well, 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.319 there's a lot going on and and a lot of 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.440 times doesn't involve you, and you can be the one 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.640 sitting on the sidelines, and it can be difficult and 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:34.839 stressful and um, but fun and awesome too. That's if 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:37.399 you don't have all your own stuff going on, I'm saying. 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.120 But if you're confident and you feel good about yourself 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.440 and you know that you and all this stuff going on, 0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:46.839 then um, then yeah, then it's just fun to go 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:49.200 hang out on the road and to you know, go 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.640 do stuff when they've got things going on and travel 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.799 and all those things. So they're they're perks to it, 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.000 for sure. We're speaking of your own thing. We're sitting 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.400 in actually your office, which you are pretty much in 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:01.080 my mind you run as CAP So that's kind of 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:02.880 a big deal. Not only are you a hot, smoking 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.240 wife with your own thing, you're running your well obviously 0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:07.799 it takes a village from the say, but you are 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.440 like a major player and one of the biggest prs, 0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:13.000 which no one's gonna know what that is. Can you 0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:21.239 explain what you do performance? Performance performing rights organizing. Absolutely, 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:22.880 it's all about the money, yeah, I mean, at the 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.319 end of the day of performing rights organization make sure 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.279 people like Jaren get paid when they have songs on 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:31.160 the radio or on TV or in films or whatever. 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:34.880 But um, I personally work on the creative side of things. 0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.560 So I work with writers and artists every day and 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.960 just wear many hats. I work as a booking agent 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.560 some days, and a publisher some days, and a manager 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:45.439 some days, and you just kind of do a little 0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.520 bit of everything. You're kind of at the forefront of 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.680 development in the first step before people kind of get 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:53.600 to that next level. You helped introduce new up and 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.080 coming artists to people and kind of you know, get 0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:57.759 to meet them on their way up. So it's cool 0:35:58.719 --> 0:36:02.360 they can for to get you on your way down. Um, 0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:12.680 Jared once they get out. What is your favorite thing 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:17.719 about Evan? Um? Just those eyes? Um No, I mean, 0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:20.120 you know we've been, like she said, we've been together 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:24.960 for maybe sixteen years, coming up here in two or weeks. Um, 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:28.120 it's it's you know, it's the ability she's had to 0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:29.560 be with me. You know, when I was sleeping on 0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.880 her couch, you know everyone Hobbs Avenue and Green Hills, 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:37.439 waiting tables at Calypso at night and Alpine Bagel making 0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.480 bagels during the day, waiting tables at all. Yeah, Anyway, 0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:44.719 I digress. Yeah, but that's my point that she, you know, 0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:46.719 she's kind of stuck with me through everything. And we've 0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.439 always just you know, we've we've she's kind of given 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.000 me the benefit of the doubt and been like, oh, 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.399 it's it's gonna happen at some point. It's gonna happen 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:56.359 at some point, you know. And and to have that 0:36:56.440 --> 0:37:00.279 background build up for so many years of nothing happen 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:01.919 or just kind of thinking we were doing something cool 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.440 and then something actually happened, and something else happened, and 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:07.040 something to get to the point where we're building a family. 0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:10.279 We have houses and cars together, and we we have 0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.319 a life together, and you know, it's like to see 0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.879 how that all come to fruition and then uh, look 0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:17.400 back on what we started with. Is is that's my 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.279 favorite thing, is that it's just been constant no matter what, 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.640 whether it's good or bad, She's always been there. So 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:25.520 I think, oh tears, I'm not even pregnant. I want 0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.839 to cry. No, No, I'm just saying, I mean, you know, 0:37:29.600 --> 0:37:32.120 not everybody, especially in this business, has someone like that. 0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:34.919 To have a bad ass babe by yourself, how how 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:36.919 much has that meant to you? Truly? Did you even 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.680 know how much that means you when you obviously well 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.800 I think you take it for granted as when you're younger, 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.120 you're just like, oh, okay, you know whatever, She'll like 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:45.799 me then because I'll be rich and you know what 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.719 i mean, like that stupid ship. But like and then 0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.719 you realize how long the process? Yeah, well that and 0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.560 like I mean, you look at all the songs I mean, 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.319 half these songs I've written that have been hits for 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.560 people are meant so much to certain people or to 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:02.040 millions of people that bought him or sang them on 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.120 the radio. Whatever we're written about her. So I wouldn't 0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:07.920 have found that inspiration, you know, without it. So it's just, 0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.319 you know, there's a there's a bunch of things that 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.880 you know, you realize you can't do this business alone. 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.960 Especially um me, I don't think I think I you know, 0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:19.279 I say many times from stage, I'm always like I'd 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.319 probably be dead, you know, of our who knows in 0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.239 jail are definitely not doing as well as I am. Now, 0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.319 you know, so I think that you know, you gotta 0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:30.279 chocolate that up to well missus here, Oh okay, even 0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:33.520 what's your favorite thing about Jared? Here we go. Um 0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:40.560 he's the funniest person I know. Um he has Um 0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:43.799 I'd say it's that he has the ability to calm 0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:46.359 me down. I tend to be We're we're a really 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.360 good balance in the fact that I'm I'm pretty anal 0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:53.120 and um a planner and a perfectionist and want everything 0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.880 to go right, like every little thing, even down to 0:38:56.040 --> 0:38:58.040 That's why we argue about where to eat, because every 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.399 meal needs to be perfect. Um. For the pictures, yeah, 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.279 well for that those food pictures are famous, Evan, They're 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.560 a big deal. We all look forward to him. I 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:08.560 am over the food pictures, but I know that he 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:13.680 does it now for the fans, for the people. Yeah. Um, 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.640 but yeah no, I think, um just our dynamic. He's 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.239 able to to chill me out when I need to 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:21.759 be chilled out and and you know, let me see 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.560 that things aren't always so serious. Um. And then also 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.920 he loves dogs and that's probably one of my favorites. 0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.640 He has a good heart and he's quite the crier too, 0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:33.960 so it's pretty good. It's just recently since we having 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:38.799 this baby. Damn, Guico commercial could come on and I'm 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.040 just like, it's good though, it's pretty awesome. It makes 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.600 me feel better because I cried everything too. So do 0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:47.880 you guys watch this is us together. We started it. 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.759 We started it. I've watched a few more. I mean, 0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:52.600 he's not home super often and I can't just put 0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.839 everything on hold, so I have to watch some. Yah. 0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.320 I'm just saying, if you cry, prepare for water works. 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:03.400 Michael cries every time. Yeah, he's a big sissy. I 0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:08.719 love you happy, So tell me we're gonna wrap up. 0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:11.160 I have like a few more questions. Tell me what 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:15.160 you guys are excited about most of having this baby, 0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:19.239 and how what you think you hope your life to 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:22.000 look like as a unit moving forward now as a three, 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:25.040 there's a three instead of a two at this point, 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:26.839 I think I can speak for both of us when 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.360 mainly what's going through our minds is when you're hoping 0:40:30.440 --> 0:40:32.879 for something or whether you pray or whatever it is, 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:38.120 you're wishing for, just a healthy, easy situation. You know, 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.839 if at least I am easy, doesn't want to pass out. 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:43.640 I just wanted to be, you know, I want to 0:40:43.680 --> 0:40:45.200 be a great experience as I know it will be. 0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:46.799 I just want to help, you know, we just want 0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.000 to love a healthy baby boy and everything to go 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.680 smoothly and then you know, get him home and start 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.000 life and at that point, God knows what's gonna happen 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:56.840 because we've never done it before, you know, So I 0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.919 think that's the exciting part and also a little scary, 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.600 but I mean it's you know, I think I get 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:04.440 more and more excited as the days go, as we 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.359 get closer and closer, and you know, I can't wait 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.520 for her on the South Of stage with the little 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.520 headphones on bud you know, and me looking over and 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:15.000 being like, that's my family. You know. That's so that's 0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.440 just such a cool thing to look forward to. Um, 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.560 I think the starting a family thing is what I'm 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.040 more excited about, just like just being like, oh, this 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:26.320 is doing something different. They've done the same thing together 0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.120 for the I mean, we've had you know, new and 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.520 exciting adventures, but it's just been the two of us 0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.640 and our dogs for the past yeah, fifteen and a 0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:38.800 half years. So I think doing something else the next adventure, 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.200 that's what is exciting. But you know what I like though, 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:43.680 I like that y'all didn't rush it because some people 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:46.960 don't get to have all that time together and everything 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.640 is different for everyone, so it all works for each other. 0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:50.640 But at the same time, how cool you had fifteen 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:56.760 years to like have these adventures and now it's over. Asshole. 0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:00.640 I just get as many we know each they're really 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.000 well and I think that that is a good thing. 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.319 I mean, like you staid, it's different for everyone, but 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.440 there's no surprises anymore, at least for the two of us. 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.800 We know exactly how each other is going to react 0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.520 to what I know. I can tell you almost exactly 0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.560 the type of dad he's going to be, and let's 0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.640 have a dad's gonna be. Oh, he'll be the fun dad, absolutely, 0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.719 but he's also going to be the paranoid dad. He's 0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.320 like gonna he's gonna make my kid wear a helmet 0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:27.120 just to walk around like he's extremely paranoid. That's how 0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.120 Michael is too. I want to get like six seat 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.839 belts and it's just had eight. Me and the kid 0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.360 are gonna go and do like skydiving roller coasters, and 0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.160 Jared's going to freak out. We'll just do it when 0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:43.320 he's obviously down. I thought that over my dead body, 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:48.040 or when you're in Europe. I love it. Your baby 0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:54.120 skydiver and brilliant. Hey got the first online husband and 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:59.120 wife fight right before she has a baby. Okay, so 0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:01.160 I'm gonna wrap up, but I'm actually gonna ask both 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:02.959 of you guys this because I think you are both 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:06.040 super interesting and kind of lighten us all. Jared, I'm 0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:07.879 gonna start with you. I like to wrap up all 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:12.160 my interviews with leave your light. So leave some inspiration 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.239 of how you would like to inspire people or how 0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.760 you have been inspired. I mean, you know, I actually 0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.400 wrote a song about this not too long ago, but 0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:25.319 I think you know I can't tell you because the 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:30.520 nine number one. But um, but now I think you know. 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.440 The idea is to be is you know, remembered for 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.719 your Like for me, I put most of what I 0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.040 will have done hopefully by the time I'm gone, as 0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:42.520 I put most of my life into my music and 0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.760 all this stuff. Right, So you build this whole life 0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:48.200 of you know, catalogs and just things that really move 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.640 people music wise. But then you also start a family 0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.840 and you're you're also remembered by the love that you 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:57.360 gave them and stuff. So I think that's kind of 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.480 what the song is. But um, I mean I think 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.080 obviously you know, I just want to be remembered, as 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.640 you know, but somebody that put true, honest words into 0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:10.160 songs that I had a decent melody that move people, 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.719 and also by the family that I start, you know 0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:20.320 and hopefully finish. You know. Good Okay, Evan, that was 0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:24.960 a good one. I just can't win up here, Evan, Okay, 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:31.759 leave your life. UM, I'd say, just be who you are. 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.360 I'm extremely unapologetic about who I am. I think that 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.799 that has worked in both my personal life and my 0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:43.440 professional life. Um, the music business is a tough business, 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:47.960 and so getting where you want to be is hard, 0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:49.919 and you have to really fight for what you want, 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:53.960 especially being a woman, sometimes it can be a little tricky. Um, 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:56.080 But I think I apply the same thing in my 0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.560 personal life as as my professional life, and that's just 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:00.799 I am who I am. Then I fight for what 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:04.080 I believe in and it's worked out well in both aspects. 0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:10.320 So that's what I always try to tell people. You guys, y'all, y'all. 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:13.120 Maybe given John Legend and Christie Teagan are run for 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:17.360 their money on cuts couple, you need to that's my 0:45:17.400 --> 0:45:22.000 celebrity crush, hardcore sure, and their kid is like so cute, 0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:25.480 love it. I'm starving. Well, it's about time to eat. 0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.680 It's dinner time. I think I asked you everything I 0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:29.200 needed to ask. If not, I mean, there's so much 0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:32.720 to talk about. You didn't bring up my dad's band's hits, 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.919 The Killing Kind and Outside. I have him on there, 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.759 The Killing Kind and Outside looked at it. I was like, wow, 0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:39.440 I can't believe you had those written. Now and talk 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:43.000 to me about know, I want to. They're it's brought up. 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:48.400 The Bandannam was basically Wrestless Heart awkward. No, I'm in 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.480 the middle. Oh no, no, it's all gonna flow hyper 0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.360 we listen. We're real life here. You know what you 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:55.759 said be is real and unapologetic. That's what's happening here. 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.400 My dad's band was like the Rascal Flats before Rascale Flats. 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:02.279 This is nineteen eighty. So you grew up and you 0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.920 your dad was like famous. Yeah, well no, I mean 0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:07.160 they I mean wasn't famous, but they were like that 0:46:07.320 --> 0:46:08.799 type of band, you know what I mean. They were 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.160 Warner Brothers, and you know, they had those hits or whatever. 0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.880 And then Restless Hearts came in exile Diamond Rio. I 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.759 was loving that are and so they kind of got 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.560 blown out follows other guys. But I just thought it 0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:20.920 was funny that you had those songs right now. They 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:22.279 haven't thought about those in a while, but I still 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.719 have the vinyl. Dad. I just think it's awesome that 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:28.320 your dad started this whole. I love it when people 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.480 are so inspired by the way they were raised that 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:32.600 they loved it so much that they love it too. 0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:35.480 And if you look at it, if you google this, kids, 0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.720 um the Bandanna album cover, the big vinyl looks very 0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.600 similar to the color wise to the American Bang vinyl 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:46.520 thing influence. Look on Warner Brothers too, just saying there 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:51.400 could be a connection. Yeah, father and son. Okay, you guys, 0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:55.120 Evan and Jaren Johnston. I like to get the t 0:46:55.800 --> 0:47:02.240 T and baby Johnston is here with in spirits Rambo. 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.880 This is your first interview. Anything you want to say. 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.560 He has definitely been moving. I've been the food and 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:14.400 doesn't get Jaran food soon. Okay, you guys, rock by 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:20.520 I hope you loved jarring from Jaren Johnston and his 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.520 gorgeous wife Evan. I cannot wait for their baby to 0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.040 be born because it's going to be a rock star. 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.279 They're such a great power couple. Love them so much. 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.239 Next week, you guys, I have Lucy Sylvia's Joining Me 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:33.719 What Lucy. Sylvia's was a European sensation, sold over a 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:36.480 million albums in Europe. She has performed and toured with 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:40.080 everyone from Elton John, Jamie Colin, Macy Gray, Charlotte Church. 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.200 She's been named on the CMTS Next Women of Country. 0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:45.879 She wrote a song on Miranda Lambert's new album called 0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:50.680 Smoking Jacket. Rolling Stone just premiered her video trilogy of songs. 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:53.120 She did three songs in a row, Letters to Gost, 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.840 Villain and Smoke. Rolling Stone premiered them all. She also 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.319 has an album out that is amazing called Letters to 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.000 Ghost and she's killing it. This girl is probably one 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.200 of the greatest singers I've ever heard. She's also married 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.720 to John Osborne from The Brothers Osborne, and he kicks 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:10.960 off this interview by interviewing Lucy. So it is so 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:12.960 much fun. Y'all tune in next week. It's going to 0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:27.000 be a party.