Speaker 1: Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.
Speaker 1: She's only this side. You got the snoop on the
Speaker 1: on the on side, no one can do with clid
Speaker 1: Carala Carola. No one can do with Cli Carola Carola. Hey, y'all,
Speaker 1: welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.
Speaker 1: I know music, I know people, and I know the
Speaker 1: questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper
Speaker 1: heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there
Speaker 1: could be adult content. Today is so exciting. Actually, I'd
Speaker 1: like to say today is going to rock your face
Speaker 1: off because I have Jaren Johnston from the Cattle I
Speaker 1: three and he rocks so hard. He's joining me today.
Speaker 1: He has written You're Gonna Fly by Keither, have Been
Speaker 1: Southern Girl by Tim McGraw, Days of Gold and Beaching
Speaker 1: by Jay Going Raise Him Up by Keither, to name
Speaker 1: a few. He is such a badass. He's also in
Speaker 1: a killer band, like I said before, the Cadillac Three.
Speaker 1: They are so great. If you haven't heard of me yet,
Speaker 1: make sure you check them out because they are just
Speaker 1: cool to the core. And at the end of this interview,
Speaker 1: his beautiful wife, Evan pops in and talks about what
Speaker 1: it's like being married to a touring artist because they
Speaker 1: have been together for over fifteen years and they're expecting
Speaker 1: their first child. So this is such a great interview,
Speaker 1: so much in it. Cannot wait for y'all to hear
Speaker 1: Jared Johnston, Well, hi Jared Johnston. Hello. Do people pronounce
Speaker 1: the tea or do they skip it? Sometimes they don't?
Speaker 1: We get Jared Johnson sometimes and those are usually people
Speaker 1: I don't hang out with anymore. Do you but lose guy?
Speaker 1: I'm not the foot long guy. Oh Jared? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a guy named Jared, but it was in Johnson.
Speaker 1: Is there, Jared Johnson? Is that a real person? I
Speaker 1: would imagine somewhere out there? This probably sounds like a
Speaker 1: job for Google. Okay Jaren Johnston and the hiss e
Speaker 1: asked Cappy and ask Cappy. Okay, I'm sorry off with
Speaker 1: a few questions. Okay, so just answer what first comes
Speaker 1: to mind. Who do you admire and look up to? Um?
Speaker 1: Huge Tom petty fan um look up to? Is weird?
Speaker 1: You know? I think everybody, every musician. I think your
Speaker 1: husband will probably say the same thing. Wants to be
Speaker 1: Tom Petty. I think Tom Petty is the ultimate on
Speaker 1: like a cool level and on a songwriting level. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty cool thing. I look up to those kind
Speaker 1: of people make Jagger all the nostalgic rock stars. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: if you could have This is a very traditional question,
Speaker 1: but I actually really want to know because I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting with you. If you could have
Speaker 1: a party, dinner party with five people, who would they be?
Speaker 1: Obviously your beautiful wife, Yeah, yeah, I probably am by
Speaker 1: my wife, excluding your gorgeous wife. He's pregnant with a
Speaker 1: baby in April, coming out. So if I could have
Speaker 1: a dinner part with five people, Chuck Norris would definitely
Speaker 1: be there. You're a Chuck Norris fan, Well that would
Speaker 1: be amazing because you're like a secret ninja hunh Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I'm gonna go through those first such Actually, it
Speaker 1: would just be such a cool dinner if I could
Speaker 1: have Chuck Norris, John claud and down, Bruce Lee, Mike Tyson,
Speaker 1: and let's throw in uh Rhonda Rolsie. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that you were, Like just think of the conversations that
Speaker 1: would be had, Like, it would be a lot of
Speaker 1: I could kick your ass so you could kick my
Speaker 1: would you jump in on that? No, I would. I
Speaker 1: would strike the conversation and be like, so, which style
Speaker 1: of fighting do you think would really win this whole thing?
Speaker 1: And then it just gets you know, the real question
Speaker 1: is what do you eat? Well? I bet you they
Speaker 1: eat like chicken and but bear chicken and find no drinking.
Speaker 1: I'm drinking. But don't you think this? People are pretty strict.
Speaker 1: I guarantee Chuting Norris probably drinking. Chuck Norris is probably drinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is probably a dam McGuinness right now with my sister.
Speaker 1: I think he drinks Prune juice and and Uh and
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels, Little Jet Daniels, and Prune. I can't believe
Speaker 1: that's the people you would pick for your dinner party.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you had the secret love for like
Speaker 1: ninja fighting, I do. I'm a big fan of old
Speaker 1: karate movies and stuff like that. Did you watch Karate
Speaker 1: Kid growing up? Hell? Yeah, I wanted to be Daniel
Speaker 1: LaRusso really bad. Can you can you kick real high?
Speaker 1: Don't get me going. It's Tuesday. I kicked really high
Speaker 1: on Tuesday's so okay. Good to know there's the reason
Speaker 1: why pants are split right now. They actually are. Really
Speaker 1: that happens to Michael all the time. I swear like kids,
Speaker 1: crotch just it just falls out. There's two two reasons.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what. Let me tell you why.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. Is that just the thing that happens
Speaker 1: with the guy J I never have crotched. I think
Speaker 1: it's the country Western rock and roll thing. You know.
Speaker 1: I guaranteed Dwight Yoakom had the same problem back in
Speaker 1: the day. Oh his jeans are tight? Yes? Do you
Speaker 1: like hygiene? Okay? What motivates you? What motivates you to
Speaker 1: get out of bed? Like? What's your inspiration that you
Speaker 1: think of? Um? Like an honest answer, I would say, like,
Speaker 1: I really I'm one of the few people that that
Speaker 1: gets to do what he does for a living that
Speaker 1: he actually one of the things he really loves. So,
Speaker 1: you know, writing songs has always been a really fun
Speaker 1: thing for me to do, and it just so happens
Speaker 1: that it's a very you know, well paying job if
Speaker 1: you get it going right. Yeah, So it's that's been
Speaker 1: very exciting um to do that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 1: I love touring with my band. You know, three best
Speaker 1: two best friends in the world. Um, that kind of thing. Obviously,
Speaker 1: my beautiful wife is she she motivates me to get
Speaker 1: out of the bed and she's like, I'm up so Europe,
Speaker 1: you know, having a baby and everything. I would imagine
Speaker 1: that's gonna be more and more of that, but that
Speaker 1: I'm I'm motivated heavily by music and it's always been
Speaker 1: a lot of fun for me. You know. So your
Speaker 1: dad was in a band called Bandana. Is that or
Speaker 1: you got your love for music? Was it just like
Speaker 1: in your veins when you were born? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: growing up in it, you know, whether it was mom
Speaker 1: playing at the church on the Oregon or we were
Speaker 1: one of those families that sit in the front row
Speaker 1: on the right right by mom as she played the organ.
Speaker 1: The organ's heart. It was a very vanilla organ playing situation,
Speaker 1: but there's like four keyboards and all sorts of pedals.
Speaker 1: She was rocking it. Yeah, on Sundays and Wednesday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that guy, you know, growing up in that
Speaker 1: and then dad being in the in the business, and
Speaker 1: um going at such a young age two shows like
Speaker 1: the Operator going out in the road with him and
Speaker 1: stuff and seeing that, and you know, I was always
Speaker 1: in thraw with a tour bus and like just that
Speaker 1: rock star thing. It was really cool. So I guess
Speaker 1: to see that at an early age and to find
Speaker 1: out that I did have some sort of talent, whether
Speaker 1: it was from dad or whatever, just being around it
Speaker 1: that I could keep a beat and I could sing,
Speaker 1: and I could play guitar really easily. Just kind of
Speaker 1: those things kind of came easier to me than um math,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because playing guitars and drums is very
Speaker 1: That's like rubbing your patting your head. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 1: hard to do that. I think it's interesting that didn't
Speaker 1: you start off as a drummer before you moved to singing,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because you have this insane voice. Right,
Speaker 1: How did you check out the record? If you haven't
Speaker 1: heard it anyways, exactly which we will get to all that.
Speaker 1: How did you Why did you not start singing? Why
Speaker 1: did you not originally start as a singer? Because dad
Speaker 1: was a drummer, and so that's just what in fifth
Speaker 1: grade you get to pick an instrument, you know, and
Speaker 1: obviously leaned towards drums because that's what I wanted. Everybody
Speaker 1: wants to be like your dad. Most people do at least,
Speaker 1: and so I went into the drum world and I
Speaker 1: really loved it, and it was really good at and
Speaker 1: actually made a decent living at it for a while.
Speaker 1: And then I really when I was like thirteen, I've
Speaker 1: started playing guitar badly Nirvana and stuff like that, trying
Speaker 1: to pick out songs, and then I started realizing that
Speaker 1: I could write songs and stuff. And you know, how
Speaker 1: did you realize you can start writing songs? When did
Speaker 1: that kick out? I think I just started one day
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I can do this. And
Speaker 1: they were really bad for years, you know, but then
Speaker 1: you finally figure out you can do it, you know, decently.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: that's why I didn't. I didn't notice start singing at
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know what I mean, because I didn't
Speaker 1: have anybody in my family that did that drumming was
Speaker 1: your ma saw that? So that's what And then you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Okay, so you started bands when you
Speaker 1: were you started playing music obviously from birth pretty much.
Speaker 1: When did you form your first band? Because you've been
Speaker 1: in several bands and you've had a very long history
Speaker 1: in music. I see what you're saying here, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you started young, and did we? I
Speaker 1: think we had. Our first band was called the Trolls
Speaker 1: of Fortune. I was thirteen years old and it was
Speaker 1: a very exciting experience. The Trolls Fortune. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: real deal. What did that music sounds? It sounded like
Speaker 1: really really bad rage against the machine mixed with you know,
Speaker 1: I want to be Nirvan and I think with a
Speaker 1: guy rapping on it. Okay, so what a your guitar?
Speaker 1: And actual? What were you when you came up with
Speaker 1: that band? Thirteen? I think we're thirty fourteen years or
Speaker 1: something like that. Okay, how did you do? Land on Trolls?
Speaker 1: It just felt right, you know, I have no idea, honestly.
Speaker 1: That was just something my goofy friend that was in
Speaker 1: the band when me Phil, he came up with that
Speaker 1: name and it was funny, so he went with it.
Speaker 1: And then okay, after Trolls of Fortune unfortunately disband. Was
Speaker 1: it a sad day? It was when the world lost
Speaker 1: a good one day? Um? Yeah, after we yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that. It was kind of a joke band,
Speaker 1: but then we all started getting serious with it and
Speaker 1: then we all, you're like the coolest kids in junior
Speaker 1: high high school pretty much for sure we thought we were.
Speaker 1: And then we definitely kind of a split up into
Speaker 1: kind of real band side. Is that one? Were you
Speaker 1: the one that started the Nick Kicks? No, I just
Speaker 1: joined the Kicks. That joined the Kicks, Yeah I was.
Speaker 1: That was ten years later. I actually fifty five years old.
Speaker 1: I have an amazing person that does my stuff. Please
Speaker 1: give me your person I need I need to know
Speaker 1: her secrets. Oh he is really good. It's like every
Speaker 1: night she's over here, it's just staring at me. So
Speaker 1: she was like, well, I mean the face does look good.
Speaker 1: You are ageless? Yeah, it's true. After Trolls of Fortune,
Speaker 1: what came next? Just high school and you're playing like
Speaker 1: that's when I met Kelby and uh Neil and been
Speaker 1: like all my guys that I kind of started playing with.
Speaker 1: And you're an original National, Native born and raised, which
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it's almost unicornish. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: Actually I was born right over there at Baptist Hospital
Speaker 1: and I went to high school right there on the
Speaker 1: other side of that thing. So National is your town?
Speaker 1: It is? Are you do? Have you liked the way
Speaker 1: it's grown, because it's like shot up over the past
Speaker 1: tenures especially, I feel like, I like, you know, like
Speaker 1: certain talents and certain people that it's brought to town,
Speaker 1: like hobbies of great example, I wouldn't have met Michael
Speaker 1: if if you know, he hadn't moved here. I like
Speaker 1: that aspect. I don't like how it's gotten so condo
Speaker 1: ish and knocking down studios for all that ship. That's
Speaker 1: kind of been a bummer. But it's a neat thing
Speaker 1: to be a part of a growth and a part
Speaker 1: of a city that is growing in a way that
Speaker 1: everybody has taken notice. So but yeah, that's my thoughts
Speaker 1: on that. So originally you were in Bang Bang Bang,
Speaker 1: and that was with Kelby and also oh who you're
Speaker 1: so in the man and you also had your friend
Speaker 1: Ben Brown. Y'all. I remember when I moved to Nashville
Speaker 1: and I first started dating Michael, who you're friends with
Speaker 1: my husband. Now, you guys owned this town, like everyone
Speaker 1: went to Bang Bang Bang. It was good time Nashville.
Speaker 1: To me, it was the music that everyone wanted to
Speaker 1: be a part of, hang out with, go to the shows.
Speaker 1: How did y'all get that cool vibe? Going, and how
Speaker 1: did you guys get together because Kelby was in a
Speaker 1: band called Lama. Was that right that, Neil? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were all The Lama thing was like when we were
Speaker 1: in high school and they got a record deal and
Speaker 1: we were all kind of in that little circle and
Speaker 1: we were just all playing with different people, but we
Speaker 1: all had a kind of a cool thing, which is
Speaker 1: very similar to what happened when the Bang Bang Bang
Speaker 1: things started. Um, we started that band and we kind
Speaker 1: of you know, like I said, we all went to
Speaker 1: high school together. We started that band, and then you
Speaker 1: had certain bands that also were popping around up around town,
Speaker 1: like Paramore and the Kings were already kind of because
Speaker 1: your friends with all them, right, yeah, the future kind
Speaker 1: kind of you know, well, you all kind of grew up,
Speaker 1: came up together, and then you know, autivon on these
Speaker 1: cool bands, underground bands that were rocking at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a little movement. And I guess
Speaker 1: Bang Bang Bang was like the biggest of those bands
Speaker 1: that wasn't huge. So you had Paramore and the Kings,
Speaker 1: but you guys were like the top. We were big
Speaker 1: in town. But yeah, that was about it, and then
Speaker 1: we got a record deal and things happen, and you know,
Speaker 1: we changed it to American Bang and years later, I'm
Speaker 1: still doing this ship. Years later, you're still dominating this ship.
Speaker 1: So you go from Bang Bang Bang and then you'll
Speaker 1: change to American Bang. You signed with Warner Brothers and
Speaker 1: Bob Rock produces you guys, which is mega because he's
Speaker 1: done some major, big stuff. Yeah, I know, he's was
Speaker 1: amazing experience working my Bob. What was that? Like? Who's
Speaker 1: he done? Uh? One of my favorite I We did
Speaker 1: the Black Album, which is Metallica's kind of staple record.
Speaker 1: That made him huge. But you know, he did Permanent
Speaker 1: Vacation Byra Smith. Um. I mean, the Cult did all
Speaker 1: kinds of great stuff. He's in his own band, the
Speaker 1: payol As Two, that was pretty rad. Um. He's just
Speaker 1: like the quintessential rock producer that everybody at one point
Speaker 1: or one time wanted to be with, you know, so,
Speaker 1: and he's maintained that kind of thing for the last
Speaker 1: thirty years. So it's yeah, he was pretty incredible. Did
Speaker 1: you always know that you were going to be in
Speaker 1: company with these greats? Like, did you always feel that
Speaker 1: because you are? Are you hope you hope that you
Speaker 1: know that at some point like now where we are
Speaker 1: now and the people that I run around with and
Speaker 1: the random people that text me like keitherban Ja, Florida, Georgia, well,
Speaker 1: I mean like Steven Tyler R. Steven Tyler is like
Speaker 1: your friends, right. Stuff that happens like that is is
Speaker 1: a very crazy thing. Like you always hope that you're
Speaker 1: going to be able to get there one day, and
Speaker 1: then it kind of happens, and then it happens over
Speaker 1: time and you kind of take it for granted and
Speaker 1: you find yourself not taking certain calls and you're like,
Speaker 1: what am I doing? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: that's so stupid. But it's like, you know, it's goes
Speaker 1: back to that childhood dream of morning to be in
Speaker 1: this situation. You know. So this is a question that
Speaker 1: one of my main things I love about doing these
Speaker 1: interviews and talking to people like you. Is it unearthed?
Speaker 1: People might look at you and they could say, like,
Speaker 1: Jared's written, I mean, what six number one hits? Or
Speaker 1: is it seven? Homework? How many is it? Is it eight?
Speaker 1: It should be eight? But it's actually seven? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got screwed on. Meanwhile, back at Mama's Dirks, and druncon
Speaker 1: a plane kept me out dirks. I thought he was
Speaker 1: your buddy, was past hint, Yeah exactly. So that was
Speaker 1: like that's basically number one. So you've had like eight
Speaker 1: monster songs. Okay, So this is what I always like
Speaker 1: to talk about with people is everyone thinks it's so
Speaker 1: glamorous and so easy and they see these people living
Speaker 1: these life style style was hanging out with these people like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so easy for you. Like music
Speaker 1: must be just be such a blast and so much fun.
Speaker 1: Obviously it is such a blast and so much fun,
Speaker 1: but it takes major perseverance. Like obviously you've been doing
Speaker 1: music since you were a kid, going through several record deals.
Speaker 1: How do you not get discouraged when things don't go
Speaker 1: the way you want them to when you when you
Speaker 1: know that you have the talent and they should it's stuff.
Speaker 1: You have to know how to live broke and stick
Speaker 1: with the dream of it will happen one day. You
Speaker 1: say that to yourself forever, you know, and then finally
Speaker 1: you get yourself to a point where you're just like,
Speaker 1: one thing happens and then it's very well, it was
Speaker 1: the first thing, your first thing you remember The first
Speaker 1: thing that happened that was crazy was when I started
Speaker 1: getting just little cuts, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then I had my first number one with Keith and
Speaker 1: You're Gonna Fly. And I remember at that moment was
Speaker 1: you know, we were like we were kind of oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is happening, and I was like, that's a big
Speaker 1: song too, and I was thinking, just as a kid,
Speaker 1: you don't know it, like I'm gonna be rich, you know,
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing, which is not the case,
Speaker 1: but it's but it's great. It's much more rich than
Speaker 1: you were, but it's very neat now. And I mean
Speaker 1: even before that, like the first thing that happens you
Speaker 1: get your first pub deal where somebody tells you that
Speaker 1: they're going to pay you to write songs for a living,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. And that's when you stop waiting tables
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm doing this for real. I'm one
Speaker 1: of those guys that actually get to do this. But
Speaker 1: do you know what I heard, there's only like three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty people who have publishing deals. I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe that's even too many. Maybe it was like a
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty people actually have publishing deals and has
Speaker 1: a job, I have no idea. So it's a very
Speaker 1: small percentage of people who get to do this for
Speaker 1: a living. Yeah it is. But you know that's one
Speaker 1: of those things that set you up to where that's
Speaker 1: just the beginning and you're like, oh, I've made it.
Speaker 1: I've got a job, but you gotta keep the job.
Speaker 1: So it's like that's what it's kind of. It gets
Speaker 1: kind of intense and it's very competitive, especially these days.
Speaker 1: You know, do you ever have a hard time celebrating
Speaker 1: a big hit because you know, as soon as that
Speaker 1: celebrations ever, it's you gotta start right back over do
Speaker 1: just not think about them? No, I mean we we
Speaker 1: usually go out pretty good whenever there's a number one
Speaker 1: party or whatever, you know. I mean there's a time
Speaker 1: when Nil and I would meet a rumbo when it
Speaker 1: was still open over there. Every time we got a
Speaker 1: hold or a cut or anything, you know, we'd sit
Speaker 1: there like we're getting hammered tonight. We gotta hold, we
Speaker 1: gotta you know, Chris Cagle hold or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: It is, like it could have been anybody and you
Speaker 1: get so excited. But yeah, we still get really excited
Speaker 1: about all the little things like that. I do think
Speaker 1: it's important to celebrate all the victories. Yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: celebrating my stealing angels. Hold, did you really? I never
Speaker 1: had a stealing angels. Hold. You guys wouldn't cut it?
Speaker 1: You of my stuff. I'm telling you. I when I
Speaker 1: was a song plugger, I would be so excited when
Speaker 1: you were write with our writers. The first hole I
Speaker 1: ever got, you know, I was that um young Guns
Speaker 1: publishing and the first hole that I ever got was
Speaker 1: picking up pretty Little Hot Sun, and I pitched it
Speaker 1: to every person in the world and like four people
Speaker 1: put it on hold. And I remember thinking like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this song's gonna get cut, because every song
Speaker 1: you write to me should be a hit. That song
Speaker 1: still hasn't gotten cut, by the way, which is so good,
Speaker 1: I know. And that's the thing that like blows my mind.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure as a hit songwriter and someone who
Speaker 1: writes all the time, is it frustrating when the songs
Speaker 1: that you write are so good just get overlooked Sometimes
Speaker 1: I know a lot of them don't obviously it is, though,
Speaker 1: And I just had a meeting earlier today about a
Speaker 1: couple of songs that we were wondering. One nobody's taking
Speaker 1: them yet, and a couple of people have held them,
Speaker 1: you know, and then they let them go, and you're
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, that's the way it was for years,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, I guess it just they
Speaker 1: have to make their own their rounds. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it's about timing, whether or not an
Speaker 1: artist is feeling that moment or that kind of thing
Speaker 1: for that this record, or if they're cutting it all.
Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's a lot about timing. So
Speaker 1: you're also really good, in my opinion, and I feel
Speaker 1: like you're really great at this, and my husband's really
Speaker 1: good at it too, kind of like not reinventing yourself,
Speaker 1: but learning how to like dance with the times because
Speaker 1: obviously rock radio sort of shut down and you are
Speaker 1: rooted in rock, my husband, Michael and Thalsmore just rooted
Speaker 1: in rock, but there is no rock radio anymore. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like country has sort of morphed into that
Speaker 1: genre for where rock meets country, I think it's, you know,
Speaker 1: it's obviously with the you know, the way that some
Speaker 1: of the artists that have started making records like like
Speaker 1: they do. Eric Church is a great example. I think
Speaker 1: that the genre. I don't know that the genre is
Speaker 1: actually open to this, but it's just kind of naturally
Speaker 1: happened with Stableton all these guys that are coming in
Speaker 1: and doing not not necessarily raw, they're just doing their
Speaker 1: version of country, and so it's you know, I grew
Speaker 1: up in Nashvillas around country music my whole life. You know. Um,
Speaker 1: I think my version, whether you want to call it
Speaker 1: rock and roll or country western or whatever, Southern rock,
Speaker 1: I think it's just my version of what I grew
Speaker 1: up in, you know what I mean. So I think
Speaker 1: the country Johnas, I'm really happy the way that it's
Speaker 1: embraced a couple of us when giving us a home
Speaker 1: as far as the genre goes, because you have rock
Speaker 1: and roll radio is tough these days and I did
Speaker 1: it for years. Um, but you know, that's what's great
Speaker 1: about country music is it's it embraces the Sam Hunts
Speaker 1: who are extremely far pop, you know, or the casey
Speaker 1: musgrads who are very Texas kind of you know, whatever
Speaker 1: that is. And then there's also room for us. Now
Speaker 1: whether or not country radio embraces it all the way
Speaker 1: and you know, takes it to the top, I don't
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know that that's gonna happen yet,
Speaker 1: but I think it's heading that way because the ones
Speaker 1: that of us that are doing our own thing or
Speaker 1: building a fan base, that there's going to be demand
Speaker 1: for those people in the radio. So it's it's it's
Speaker 1: exciting times in the country genre, I think. And also
Speaker 1: I feel like country music is blowing up in Europe
Speaker 1: and you guys have gone overseas and I feel like,
Speaker 1: y'all just knock it out of the park. What is
Speaker 1: it like over there? Do you feel like Tom Petty
Speaker 1: because y'all y'all shows are crazy. Well, it's neat over
Speaker 1: there because you know that the Heartbreakers went over there
Speaker 1: first and they were big in Japan before they were
Speaker 1: anything over here. And I think that was our main
Speaker 1: mindset of going over there first. And we were one
Speaker 1: of the first countryman's US and Eric to go over
Speaker 1: there three or four years ago. And I mean now
Speaker 1: it's you know, we're bigger over there than we are
Speaker 1: here in most places, and it's you know, it's surreal.
Speaker 1: It's crazy they that you have this people that are
Speaker 1: singing along in this to this genre that's talking about
Speaker 1: something they know absolutely nothing about but they want to
Speaker 1: be a part of it. So it's it's really neat
Speaker 1: to be kind of leading that back because now everybody's
Speaker 1: going over there, you know. So it's it's cool, m
Speaker 1: so not to put you on the spot or making
Speaker 1: but kind of to put me on this well, I mean,
Speaker 1: we just have to go through will you just run
Speaker 1: through your it's for me, the ones that you've written
Speaker 1: for other people, what you've written and who there for
Speaker 1: I wrote You're Gonna Fly of Keith Urban even remember
Speaker 1: how to do him? And Southern Girl mcgrawl, Sunshine Whiskey,
Speaker 1: Frankie Ballard, don't It Billy Currington, Beach in Jaco and
Speaker 1: American Country Love Home Song Jaco And meanwhile back at
Speaker 1: Mama's to mcgrawl, that's American Gold. Oh no, that's maybe
Speaker 1: when Michael trying to it's not like they got to
Speaker 1: raise him up by Keith Urban and days of Gold.
Speaker 1: That's what. Yeah, Yeah, there's I mean, there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of it's it's been a very cool
Speaker 1: couple of years. Is it crazy or is it normal
Speaker 1: that Keith Urban comes over to your house to write
Speaker 1: with you? It's that's pretty weird. He's He showed up
Speaker 1: in my house the other day to play on our
Speaker 1: our new Catlot record, and he was in this like,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Evan and I are doing pretty good.
Speaker 1: You know, I've got my truck out there, in my
Speaker 1: old truck, and he pulls up in like a five
Speaker 1: thousand dollar Bugatti Batmobile and I'm just like, oh hey,
Speaker 1: I'm like shutting my garage door really quick. Doesn't it
Speaker 1: doesn't seem old, but now it's really cool. And it's it's,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's one of those moments you hope
Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna get to that point in
Speaker 1: your career, and it's it's kind of happened. You know.
Speaker 1: Has Keith Urban or anyone in particular been someone that
Speaker 1: you've like talked to, like leaned on to for not
Speaker 1: advice about how to navigate this industry? But I still
Speaker 1: I think of someone like Keith like it was never
Speaker 1: a perfectly smooth road for him either. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: we've talked about I think a lot of Dirk's has
Speaker 1: been a really you know, he's helped us out a lot.
Speaker 1: Eric has helped us out a lot. Um, So you're
Speaker 1: Dirk's Eric Keith like all these people. Yeah, that's crazy
Speaker 1: the f g L guys, And honestly is we've been
Speaker 1: friends for so long and we kind of both started
Speaker 1: in the bars together there. You know, they're in private
Speaker 1: jets and things now, but they they were there in
Speaker 1: those moments when we were both starting out. So they're
Speaker 1: fun to bounce ideas off too. You know, they don't
Speaker 1: really get our world right now because like I said,
Speaker 1: they're in private jet, but they're like, man, just you know,
Speaker 1: get it, man, just get a jet dog one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just everybody's been really cool, and I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people in town that are rooting for a
Speaker 1: band like us. Everyone well, and it's not even rooting
Speaker 1: like to me, you guys are are the band in town.
Speaker 1: Like when you think of like the coolest guys in Nashville,
Speaker 1: it's always been Bang Bang Bang American ban Cat. Whatever
Speaker 1: you guys are doing is the coolest sound that you hear.
Speaker 1: That hobby. Michael would probably agree with me. He would.
Speaker 1: He would probably have to say, oh yeah, I get
Speaker 1: nice text messages from him every now and then. Michael
Speaker 1: has a he has a man crush on you. Yayo
Speaker 1: bromance a look, it's it's friendship. But he also has
Speaker 1: like mad respect for you. Oh yeah, heck yeah he
Speaker 1: probably Kary, why are you making me look like good
Speaker 1: sissy daring on your podcast? Yeah? Why are you making
Speaker 1: jarreming like that's sissy? So do you enjoy is it
Speaker 1: a tie or is it even like can you even compare?
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy being a songwriter or an artist or
Speaker 1: is it like two different children because you're also a
Speaker 1: producer and a publisher, Like do you have a preference
Speaker 1: over what you love to do the most? Let's go
Speaker 1: a songwriter and artist. Yeah, I like the songwrit an
Speaker 1: artist kind of gives me Jacklin High. It gives me
Speaker 1: the chance to flex these muscles over here and the
Speaker 1: check to the chance to flex these like creative muscles
Speaker 1: over here where I can write a song about something
Speaker 1: that I don't necessarily want to sing every night, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, or live live someone else's life
Speaker 1: story like it doesn't match you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and still see the success of that song. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it is kind of like two children where you know,
Speaker 1: I still want these to do good and I want
Speaker 1: these to do good, and it's it's fun for I mean,
Speaker 1: I you know, if I wasn't with Nil and Kelby,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't I wouldn't be doing that, you know, and
Speaker 1: I wouldn't just be I'm not gonna go do it
Speaker 1: Jaren Johnson sings the Blues record or whatever. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's not I do it because we
Speaker 1: have such a blast with it as friends, growing up
Speaker 1: together and pursuing that dream and actually kind of starting
Speaker 1: to taste it is very very cool. But then over
Speaker 1: here it's an equal love because I love songwriting and
Speaker 1: I love the getting the success. I've seen a song
Speaker 1: go at the charts and have one of your favorite
Speaker 1: singers sing it, and you know it's it's neat man.
Speaker 1: Both are amazing. What is it like being a band
Speaker 1: with Kelby and Neil? What are the what? How does
Speaker 1: it shake out? Like? What are the personalities? Mesh? I mean,
Speaker 1: we've know each other so long, it's you know, I
Speaker 1: know when Kelby's hungry and he never gains weight. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, when Neil's whatever. You know. I mean, we
Speaker 1: just kind of bounce off each other and it's it's
Speaker 1: just it's just a machine that just rides, you know,
Speaker 1: like we're we're we're great together with great band. We're
Speaker 1: on the stage, we're just like we are in real life, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: we kind of moved together and we play together. You know,
Speaker 1: there's no bullshit, there's no tracks, there's none of that.
Speaker 1: It's just three dudes playing music together. And that's kind
Speaker 1: of the way we are in life too. It's just
Speaker 1: three days going through life together. So I go pretty
Speaker 1: much in sync. Like you don't really have to even
Speaker 1: speak to each other to know what a word. We
Speaker 1: don't even talk about what we're opening with. Song wise,
Speaker 1: we just get out there and go, okay, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, never we have set Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: So y'all don't sit there and playing out the show.
Speaker 1: You guys, just get out there rock yes, and you'll
Speaker 1: just have a look and you know what's opening? Really,
Speaker 1: can you change it? On this on a diamond? They're like,
Speaker 1: everyone's just right there pretty much. Really, that's kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's amazing? Because it is. There's
Speaker 1: a reason I do it, you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun because it's just it's very natural
Speaker 1: with the three of Usten and listening about it is
Speaker 1: you don't see that very often and genre you really don't.
Speaker 1: Everything's pretty prepared. Yes, I love that. I had no idea.
Speaker 1: How don't you set list? That would kind of freak.
Speaker 1: I guess when you've done it that long, you know
Speaker 1: each other that well, do the new one? No? Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So speaking of Southern, your first single that came out
Speaker 1: the South, the South, you like trying about the South
Speaker 1: and Southern and southern because that's you. I only have
Speaker 1: a couple of tricks. You know. Well they say right way,
Speaker 1: you know, so clearly you're from the South. Your first
Speaker 1: single on Big Machine was Superstar Setted. There was Florida, Georgia, Line,
Speaker 1: Dirk Spinley, Mike Eli from a young man. That's kind
Speaker 1: of crazy to start off with a bang like that
Speaker 1: and have that much support from the community, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was just it was a joke. Honestly. We
Speaker 1: were like, we should get some guys that come over
Speaker 1: and sing on this, and it is actually gonna be
Speaker 1: a different song. And then for some reason, South ended
Speaker 1: up being the one that we were cutting that day,
Speaker 1: and Dirk's came over, FTL came over and Mike was
Speaker 1: next door singing on an Alabama tribute record or something
Speaker 1: like that. So he was just there. Yeah, so he
Speaker 1: came over and we've been friends for a while. We
Speaker 1: just got off a two of them down in Texas. So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just worked out. I mean, and that was a
Speaker 1: neat thing about that time, is like Dirk's had just
Speaker 1: taken taken us out on the road. We were going
Speaker 1: to do some shows we've gotten off the road with
Speaker 1: FGL and they were really blowing up at the time,
Speaker 1: and we were going to do a summer tour with
Speaker 1: them the next year. Is that what you just came
Speaker 1: off of? This, that's what we just got doing. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's just really neat to kind of have
Speaker 1: it all kind of come together accidentally and sing on
Speaker 1: a song that you know, kind of it was an
Speaker 1: icebreaker for us at you know, in this genre. I
Speaker 1: love that. So you love to post pictures of your
Speaker 1: food on Instagram, I have a problem. Tell me about this. Uh,
Speaker 1: you just love to share what you eat because it's
Speaker 1: so good. A lot of times I didn't take it
Speaker 1: as it's a thing. Now everyone looks for your food.
Speaker 1: Do it now? Just because a lot of people. It
Speaker 1: makes so many people talk about and they get so
Speaker 1: mad about it, or somebody's like, why do they get
Speaker 1: mad about it? No, I'm hungry, I'm eating I'm eating
Speaker 1: rice roney and you're on here, you know, like it's
Speaker 1: a lot of Mexican food. Yeah, I love and yellow porch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we ate there last night actually, but I kind of
Speaker 1: like know where y'all hanging based on your Instagram food picks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, I think it right now. I started
Speaker 1: doing it just for fun. He's like, oh, this is great,
Speaker 1: And now I do it just because people are always
Speaker 1: talking about it pretty much too. And I like a
Speaker 1: good meal here, I mean, and if it looks really good,
Speaker 1: it's like I could put that filter on, it's gonna
Speaker 1: look really good. Do you have a certain craving, like
Speaker 1: do you crave certain things? My wife is pregnant, and
Speaker 1: I crave more than do you have like empathy cravings
Speaker 1: for her? Well, I'm always When she got pregnant, I
Speaker 1: was so excited because I was like, this will this
Speaker 1: will knock out the one thing we usually argue about
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna eat at night, because I'll just
Speaker 1: let her call it because I can eat anything. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I just get excited about it. You are ready, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go right now, and she goes. She
Speaker 1: she doesn't really hasn't really craved much and so it's
Speaker 1: still I'm like, you want to go to Asian? How
Speaker 1: about Asian? And she's sick of Asian? She doesn't. Asian
Speaker 1: hasn't been her thing. Why she's been printed. So we
Speaker 1: eat a lot of pizza, a lot of Mexicans stuff
Speaker 1: at that. But yeah, I do have I have cravings
Speaker 1: for Mexican like probably once twice a day. I don't
Speaker 1: eat it once or twice to day sometimes, but but
Speaker 1: I do like it a lot. Well, it's amazing. Okay,
Speaker 1: this sounds like a good time to bring evident. I
Speaker 1: want to I want to just bring evident for the
Speaker 1: end of the interview just a little bit. You have
Speaker 1: to come to it. You have to come. Come, come,
Speaker 1: you do too. You have makeup on here? Yes, come
Speaker 1: say hey, hand up. Okay, you're not fat. What you
Speaker 1: have in your stomach is called a baby. Okay, So
Speaker 1: first off, what are you having? Can we tell? Can
Speaker 1: you talk about it? Sure, we're having a boy. Do
Speaker 1: we have a name? Not yet? Rambo our Chuck or
Speaker 1: what are all those Chuck? No, um, no name. We
Speaker 1: haven't narrowed down, but we're not. You know what, I
Speaker 1: actually think that that's a really good idea not to
Speaker 1: tell people, because then everyone gives you their opinion. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I knew someone named Chuck and he was the worst.
Speaker 1: Lots of opinions about names, and lots of opinions about
Speaker 1: pregnancy in general, other people's pregnancy, which is strange. But um, yes,
Speaker 1: so we have it narrowed down. But yeah, we're not.
Speaker 1: We're not doing what's some of the worst pregnancy advice
Speaker 1: you've gotten from someone? Um, I get a lot, I
Speaker 1: don't know, just people butting in where they're not supposed to. Um,
Speaker 1: we're giving bird within in a private birth center. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are hesitant and want
Speaker 1: to know why you're not going to a hospital. But
Speaker 1: it's really because hospitals freaked me out. That's why we're
Speaker 1: not going to the hospital. Yeah, Jared would pass out
Speaker 1: in a hospital. For him, who's the one giving labor here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we really need to do I just work around
Speaker 1: his schedule and if he's stressed out or not. But um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, so I don't know, this is just all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff for people want to tell you what
Speaker 1: you should eat. Actually, I did have a lady while
Speaker 1: we were down at the beach. I ordered a green
Speaker 1: juice and she told me that I should not be
Speaker 1: having a green juice because of like the risk of
Speaker 1: there's lots of things listeria whatever. But um, I am
Speaker 1: very well educated and I drink green juice all the time.
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's just funny when people want to try
Speaker 1: to tell you what he was not a happy camper.
Speaker 1: She came to me and said, I want a smoothie,
Speaker 1: but you have to go get it from that. That
Speaker 1: was the second time because I drink like green smoothie
Speaker 1: reduces every day, and yeah, she like pissed me off,
Speaker 1: so I made Jarn go get it. The second time,
Speaker 1: I almost didn't want one, but I needed one, so yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So I hyperd pregnancy blog point to recently interviewed the
Speaker 1: wives of a thousand horses because I think it's a
Speaker 1: very interesting perspective the jockeys because we ride horses. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: sex thing. It's like a sex thing. I think it's
Speaker 1: a sex thing. Some of the girls don't think it's
Speaker 1: funny to be a sex thing. But I mean in
Speaker 1: a day, if you're not gonna have a funny name,
Speaker 1: then what's the point. So how you have been y'all
Speaker 1: been like high school sweetheart shopping together for how It'll
Speaker 1: be sixteen in February, and y'all are just like not
Speaker 1: even in your mid thirties. So that's crazy right out there.
Speaker 1: So that's a long time you've been together along. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she's a lucky girl. I've been putting up with
Speaker 1: his crap for a long time. Okay, So that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I want to ask you. What is it
Speaker 1: like being married to a musician? Like, obviously there's so
Speaker 1: many layers of it. Can you give us people who
Speaker 1: listen who have no idea what it's like being married
Speaker 1: to touring musician songwriter? I mean it's different for everybody.
Speaker 1: This goes back to the advice thing. I'd never try
Speaker 1: to tell people you know, I do it right and
Speaker 1: we have the secret or anything like that. But um,
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to have your own life. You've
Speaker 1: got to be really invested in yourself, and you have
Speaker 1: to stay busy and find things that you love. M Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you didn't like the music, I don't think you
Speaker 1: could be with someone, do you know. I think that
Speaker 1: that's part of it too. Um, But yeah, you just
Speaker 1: have to stay busy. You just have to find your
Speaker 1: own things and find your own life, and and you
Speaker 1: can't be too codependent because then you'll just be lonely
Speaker 1: and sad and you know, so you've just got to
Speaker 1: You've got to stay involved in things going on with you.
Speaker 1: And then you also just have to be supportive and
Speaker 1: patient and hopefully find somebody that does the same for you.
Speaker 1: And we've just we've grown up together in the right way.
Speaker 1: So we just we got lucky like that. So for
Speaker 1: all you girls out there looking for a man in
Speaker 1: a band, they'll be discouraged. It can happen to you too.
Speaker 1: I would not recommend it. I'm just kidding. I do
Speaker 1: agree with you, though, having your own thing is crucial
Speaker 1: because if you don't, I feel like you could get
Speaker 1: not you a wife or a spouse, or someone could
Speaker 1: get lost in it all. In a way. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on and and a lot of
Speaker 1: times doesn't involve you, and you can be the one
Speaker 1: sitting on the sidelines, and it can be difficult and
Speaker 1: stressful and um, but fun and awesome too. That's if
Speaker 1: you don't have all your own stuff going on, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But if you're confident and you feel good about yourself
Speaker 1: and you know that you and all this stuff going on,
Speaker 1: then um, then yeah, then it's just fun to go
Speaker 1: hang out on the road and to you know, go
Speaker 1: do stuff when they've got things going on and travel
Speaker 1: and all those things. So they're they're perks to it,
Speaker 1: for sure. We're speaking of your own thing. We're sitting
Speaker 1: in actually your office, which you are pretty much in
Speaker 1: my mind you run as CAP So that's kind of
Speaker 1: a big deal. Not only are you a hot, smoking
Speaker 1: wife with your own thing, you're running your well obviously
Speaker 1: it takes a village from the say, but you are
Speaker 1: like a major player and one of the biggest prs,
Speaker 1: which no one's gonna know what that is. Can you
Speaker 1: explain what you do performance? Performance performing rights organizing. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's all about the money, yeah, I mean, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day of performing rights organization make sure
Speaker 1: people like Jaren get paid when they have songs on
Speaker 1: the radio or on TV or in films or whatever.
Speaker 1: But um, I personally work on the creative side of things.
Speaker 1: So I work with writers and artists every day and
Speaker 1: just wear many hats. I work as a booking agent
Speaker 1: some days, and a publisher some days, and a manager
Speaker 1: some days, and you just kind of do a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything. You're kind of at the forefront of
Speaker 1: development in the first step before people kind of get
Speaker 1: to that next level. You helped introduce new up and
Speaker 1: coming artists to people and kind of you know, get
Speaker 1: to meet them on their way up. So it's cool
Speaker 1: they can for to get you on your way down. Um,
Speaker 1: Jared once they get out. What is your favorite thing
Speaker 1: about Evan? Um? Just those eyes? Um No, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know we've been, like she said, we've been together
Speaker 1: for maybe sixteen years, coming up here in two or weeks. Um,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's the ability she's had to
Speaker 1: be with me. You know, when I was sleeping on
Speaker 1: her couch, you know everyone Hobbs Avenue and Green Hills,
Speaker 1: waiting tables at Calypso at night and Alpine Bagel making
Speaker 1: bagels during the day, waiting tables at all. Yeah, Anyway,
Speaker 1: I digress. Yeah, but that's my point that she, you know,
Speaker 1: she's kind of stuck with me through everything. And we've
Speaker 1: always just you know, we've we've she's kind of given
Speaker 1: me the benefit of the doubt and been like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna happen at some point. It's gonna happen
Speaker 1: at some point, you know. And and to have that
Speaker 1: background build up for so many years of nothing happen
Speaker 1: or just kind of thinking we were doing something cool
Speaker 1: and then something actually happened, and something else happened, and
Speaker 1: something to get to the point where we're building a family.
Speaker 1: We have houses and cars together, and we we have
Speaker 1: a life together, and you know, it's like to see
Speaker 1: how that all come to fruition and then uh, look
Speaker 1: back on what we started with. Is is that's my
Speaker 1: favorite thing, is that it's just been constant no matter what,
Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad, She's always been there. So
Speaker 1: I think, oh tears, I'm not even pregnant. I want
Speaker 1: to cry. No, No, I'm just saying, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: not everybody, especially in this business, has someone like that.
Speaker 1: To have a bad ass babe by yourself, how how
Speaker 1: much has that meant to you? Truly? Did you even
Speaker 1: know how much that means you when you obviously well
Speaker 1: I think you take it for granted as when you're younger,
Speaker 1: you're just like, oh, okay, you know whatever, She'll like
Speaker 1: me then because I'll be rich and you know what
Speaker 1: i mean, like that stupid ship. But like and then
Speaker 1: you realize how long the process? Yeah, well that and
Speaker 1: like I mean, you look at all the songs I mean,
Speaker 1: half these songs I've written that have been hits for
Speaker 1: people are meant so much to certain people or to
Speaker 1: millions of people that bought him or sang them on
Speaker 1: the radio. Whatever we're written about her. So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have found that inspiration, you know, without it. So it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a there's a bunch of things that
Speaker 1: you know, you realize you can't do this business alone.
Speaker 1: Especially um me, I don't think I think I you know,
Speaker 1: I say many times from stage, I'm always like I'd
Speaker 1: probably be dead, you know, of our who knows in
Speaker 1: jail are definitely not doing as well as I am. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, so I think that you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: chocolate that up to well missus here, Oh okay, even
Speaker 1: what's your favorite thing about Jared? Here we go. Um
Speaker 1: he's the funniest person I know. Um he has Um
Speaker 1: I'd say it's that he has the ability to calm
Speaker 1: me down. I tend to be We're we're a really
Speaker 1: good balance in the fact that I'm I'm pretty anal
Speaker 1: and um a planner and a perfectionist and want everything
Speaker 1: to go right, like every little thing, even down to
Speaker 1: That's why we argue about where to eat, because every
Speaker 1: meal needs to be perfect. Um. For the pictures, yeah,
Speaker 1: well for that those food pictures are famous, Evan, They're
Speaker 1: a big deal. We all look forward to him. I
Speaker 1: am over the food pictures, but I know that he
Speaker 1: does it now for the fans, for the people. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah no, I think, um just our dynamic. He's
Speaker 1: able to to chill me out when I need to
Speaker 1: be chilled out and and you know, let me see
Speaker 1: that things aren't always so serious. Um. And then also
Speaker 1: he loves dogs and that's probably one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: He has a good heart and he's quite the crier too,
Speaker 1: so it's pretty good. It's just recently since we having
Speaker 1: this baby. Damn, Guico commercial could come on and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, it's good though, it's pretty awesome. It makes
Speaker 1: me feel better because I cried everything too. So do
Speaker 1: you guys watch this is us together. We started it.
Speaker 1: We started it. I've watched a few more. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's not home super often and I can't just put
Speaker 1: everything on hold, so I have to watch some. Yah.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you cry, prepare for water works.
Speaker 1: Michael cries every time. Yeah, he's a big sissy. I
Speaker 1: love you happy, So tell me we're gonna wrap up.
Speaker 1: I have like a few more questions. Tell me what
Speaker 1: you guys are excited about most of having this baby,
Speaker 1: and how what you think you hope your life to
Speaker 1: look like as a unit moving forward now as a three,
Speaker 1: there's a three instead of a two at this point,
Speaker 1: I think I can speak for both of us when
Speaker 1: mainly what's going through our minds is when you're hoping
Speaker 1: for something or whether you pray or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: you're wishing for, just a healthy, easy situation. You know,
Speaker 1: if at least I am easy, doesn't want to pass out.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: be a great experience as I know it will be.
Speaker 1: I just want to help, you know, we just want
Speaker 1: to love a healthy baby boy and everything to go
Speaker 1: smoothly and then you know, get him home and start
Speaker 1: life and at that point, God knows what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: because we've never done it before, you know, So I
Speaker 1: think that's the exciting part and also a little scary,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's you know, I think I get
Speaker 1: more and more excited as the days go, as we
Speaker 1: get closer and closer, and you know, I can't wait
Speaker 1: for her on the South Of stage with the little
Speaker 1: headphones on bud you know, and me looking over and
Speaker 1: being like, that's my family. You know. That's so that's
Speaker 1: just such a cool thing to look forward to. Um,
Speaker 1: I think the starting a family thing is what I'm
Speaker 1: more excited about, just like just being like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is doing something different. They've done the same thing together
Speaker 1: for the I mean, we've had you know, new and
Speaker 1: exciting adventures, but it's just been the two of us
Speaker 1: and our dogs for the past yeah, fifteen and a
Speaker 1: half years. So I think doing something else the next adventure,
Speaker 1: that's what is exciting. But you know what I like though,
Speaker 1: I like that y'all didn't rush it because some people
Speaker 1: don't get to have all that time together and everything
Speaker 1: is different for everyone, so it all works for each other.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, how cool you had fifteen
Speaker 1: years to like have these adventures and now it's over. Asshole.
Speaker 1: I just get as many we know each they're really
Speaker 1: well and I think that that is a good thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you staid, it's different for everyone, but
Speaker 1: there's no surprises anymore, at least for the two of us.
Speaker 1: We know exactly how each other is going to react
Speaker 1: to what I know. I can tell you almost exactly
Speaker 1: the type of dad he's going to be, and let's
Speaker 1: have a dad's gonna be. Oh, he'll be the fun dad, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but he's also going to be the paranoid dad. He's
Speaker 1: like gonna he's gonna make my kid wear a helmet
Speaker 1: just to walk around like he's extremely paranoid. That's how
Speaker 1: Michael is too. I want to get like six seat
Speaker 1: belts and it's just had eight. Me and the kid
Speaker 1: are gonna go and do like skydiving roller coasters, and
Speaker 1: Jared's going to freak out. We'll just do it when
Speaker 1: he's obviously down. I thought that over my dead body,
Speaker 1: or when you're in Europe. I love it. Your baby
Speaker 1: skydiver and brilliant. Hey got the first online husband and
Speaker 1: wife fight right before she has a baby. Okay, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap up, but I'm actually gonna ask both
Speaker 1: of you guys this because I think you are both
Speaker 1: super interesting and kind of lighten us all. Jared, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start with you. I like to wrap up all
Speaker 1: my interviews with leave your light. So leave some inspiration
Speaker 1: of how you would like to inspire people or how
Speaker 1: you have been inspired. I mean, you know, I actually
Speaker 1: wrote a song about this not too long ago, but
Speaker 1: I think you know I can't tell you because the
Speaker 1: nine number one. But um, but now I think you know.
Speaker 1: The idea is to be is you know, remembered for
Speaker 1: your Like for me, I put most of what I
Speaker 1: will have done hopefully by the time I'm gone, as
Speaker 1: I put most of my life into my music and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Right, So you build this whole life
Speaker 1: of you know, catalogs and just things that really move
Speaker 1: people music wise. But then you also start a family
Speaker 1: and you're you're also remembered by the love that you
Speaker 1: gave them and stuff. So I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: what the song is. But um, I mean I think
Speaker 1: obviously you know, I just want to be remembered, as
Speaker 1: you know, but somebody that put true, honest words into
Speaker 1: songs that I had a decent melody that move people,
Speaker 1: and also by the family that I start, you know
Speaker 1: and hopefully finish. You know. Good Okay, Evan, that was
Speaker 1: a good one. I just can't win up here, Evan, Okay,
Speaker 1: leave your life. UM, I'd say, just be who you are.
Speaker 1: I'm extremely unapologetic about who I am. I think that
Speaker 1: that has worked in both my personal life and my
Speaker 1: professional life. Um, the music business is a tough business,
Speaker 1: and so getting where you want to be is hard,
Speaker 1: and you have to really fight for what you want,
Speaker 1: especially being a woman, sometimes it can be a little tricky. Um,
Speaker 1: But I think I apply the same thing in my
Speaker 1: personal life as as my professional life, and that's just
Speaker 1: I am who I am. Then I fight for what
Speaker 1: I believe in and it's worked out well in both aspects.
Speaker 1: So that's what I always try to tell people. You guys, y'all, y'all.
Speaker 1: Maybe given John Legend and Christie Teagan are run for
Speaker 1: their money on cuts couple, you need to that's my
Speaker 1: celebrity crush, hardcore sure, and their kid is like so cute,
Speaker 1: love it. I'm starving. Well, it's about time to eat.
Speaker 1: It's dinner time. I think I asked you everything I
Speaker 1: needed to ask. If not, I mean, there's so much
Speaker 1: to talk about. You didn't bring up my dad's band's hits,
Speaker 1: The Killing Kind and Outside. I have him on there,
Speaker 1: The Killing Kind and Outside looked at it. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you had those written. Now and talk
Speaker 1: to me about know, I want to. They're it's brought up.
Speaker 1: The Bandannam was basically Wrestless Heart awkward. No, I'm in
Speaker 1: the middle. Oh no, no, it's all gonna flow hyper
Speaker 1: we listen. We're real life here. You know what you
Speaker 1: said be is real and unapologetic. That's what's happening here.
Speaker 1: My dad's band was like the Rascal Flats before Rascale Flats.
Speaker 1: This is nineteen eighty. So you grew up and you
Speaker 1: your dad was like famous. Yeah, well no, I mean
Speaker 1: they I mean wasn't famous, but they were like that
Speaker 1: type of band, you know what I mean. They were
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, and you know, they had those hits or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then Restless Hearts came in exile Diamond Rio. I
Speaker 1: was loving that are and so they kind of got
Speaker 1: blown out follows other guys. But I just thought it
Speaker 1: was funny that you had those songs right now. They
Speaker 1: haven't thought about those in a while, but I still
Speaker 1: have the vinyl. Dad. I just think it's awesome that
Speaker 1: your dad started this whole. I love it when people
Speaker 1: are so inspired by the way they were raised that
Speaker 1: they loved it so much that they love it too.
Speaker 1: And if you look at it, if you google this, kids,
Speaker 1: um the Bandanna album cover, the big vinyl looks very
Speaker 1: similar to the color wise to the American Bang vinyl
Speaker 1: thing influence. Look on Warner Brothers too, just saying there
Speaker 1: could be a connection. Yeah, father and son. Okay, you guys,
Speaker 1: Evan and Jaren Johnston. I like to get the t
Speaker 1: T and baby Johnston is here with in spirits Rambo.
Speaker 1: This is your first interview. Anything you want to say.
Speaker 1: He has definitely been moving. I've been the food and
Speaker 1: doesn't get Jaran food soon. Okay, you guys, rock by
Speaker 1: I hope you loved jarring from Jaren Johnston and his
Speaker 1: gorgeous wife Evan. I cannot wait for their baby to
Speaker 1: be born because it's going to be a rock star.
Speaker 1: They're such a great power couple. Love them so much.
Speaker 1: Next week, you guys, I have Lucy Sylvia's Joining Me
Speaker 1: What Lucy. Sylvia's was a European sensation, sold over a
Speaker 1: million albums in Europe. She has performed and toured with
Speaker 1: everyone from Elton John, Jamie Colin, Macy Gray, Charlotte Church.
Speaker 1: She's been named on the CMTS Next Women of Country.
Speaker 1: She wrote a song on Miranda Lambert's new album called
Speaker 1: Smoking Jacket. Rolling Stone just premiered her video trilogy of songs.
Speaker 1: She did three songs in a row, Letters to Gost,
Speaker 1: Villain and Smoke. Rolling Stone premiered them all. She also
Speaker 1: has an album out that is amazing called Letters to
Speaker 1: Ghost and she's killing it. This girl is probably one
Speaker 1: of the greatest singers I've ever heard. She's also married
Speaker 1: to John Osborne from The Brothers Osborne, and he kicks
Speaker 1: off this interview by interviewing Lucy. So it is so
Speaker 1: much fun. Y'all tune in next week. It's going to
Speaker 1: be a party.