1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf i AM six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: We got some technical issues with the connecting John to 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: the show, but we're working on that so hopefully he'll 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: join us very shortly. I'm here with Deborah Mark. Are 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: you there, I'm here, okay, all right, So once you 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: get down the hall and see how John's doing, because 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: we're having some time. 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 3: All right, hang on, John, are you okay? What's happening? 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 3: Why can't we hear you? What's wrong with you? 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Just stand in the hallway and yell because you're a 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: loud face didiot? 13 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: Anyway? 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: Take that burger out of your mouth? 15 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: Oh man? 16 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: All right, quick, heads up. Of course you can hear 17 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: the Johnny Kent Show on demand. If you cannot listen 18 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: to this show live between one and four, you can 19 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: pick us up on the podcast at CAFIAM six forty 20 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: dot com or also use the iHeartRadio app. It's handy, 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: it's easy, and it's everywhere, and it's anytime. I want 22 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: to remind you that we're two days away from the Moistline, 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: so we are collecting on the short week. 24 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 3: We love to play Moistline calls. 25 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: We don't like to miss any Friday when at least 26 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 2: one of us is here, so leave a message using 27 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. There's a little microphone icon there for 28 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: you to connect or call the toll free number one 29 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: eight seven seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: six six ' four seven. 31 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: Eight eight six. 32 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 2: A lot of good stuff ahead on the show Today, 33 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: we'll be checking in with Blake Trolley CAFI News on 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 2: that weird story out of Orange County. Well not so 35 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: weird in that it's another robbery of a store, but 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: this time the people involved eventually ended up trying to 37 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: get an uber yeah, to get their final getaway they 38 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: wanted to, so they wanted to ditch their getaway car 39 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: and then you know, hang out somewhere and then eventually 40 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: call for a rideshare car to take them to their 41 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it worked out for him, But he'll 42 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: be here in one hour with full details on the 43 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: story in and interviews that he compiled with the people involved. 44 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: And when it comes to the state's prisoners, the ever 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: dwindling number of people that we actually have incarcerated, I'm sorry, 46 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: they're not ex felons, they're not prisoners they're formally incarcerated, 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: or those have experienced the justice system in California, to 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: put it more correctly, because we're not supposed to be 49 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: imprisoning people. 50 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: That's just not the right thing to do. We've got 51 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: a couple of stories. 52 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: The big one is that there has been a lawsuit 53 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: from the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation to challenge the state 54 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: prison system for their method of releasing war prisoners. This 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: goes back a couple of years, and we talked about 56 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: it then, but it's come around on the courts again. 57 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: We're apparently Yeah, our state attorney general tried to have 58 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: this lawsuit thrown out. Judge said no lawsuit can go forward. 59 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: It's challenging the state and particularly I'm talking about the 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: corrections departments and their method for releasing more prisoners. I mean, 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: the state prison population has really plummeted in the last 62 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: ten years or so. Can you tell yeah a little 63 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: bit with the crime here and there, is it possible 64 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: that you can tell out there that we have emptied 65 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: out the prisons. The story related to that is a 66 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: big contract for the prison guards. 67 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: Even though we don't need as many of them, We're. 68 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Going to be giving away like a billion dollars more 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: to the prison guards. 70 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: So we'll get to all that later on in the show. 71 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, last night, when I was looking at some news 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: stories for the John and Ken Show, I paused for 73 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: a moment as to whether or not I should click 74 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: this one, and it was headlined video shows diarrhea aftermath. 75 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: As you know, yesterday we talked about this a couple 76 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: of times. There was a Delta flight that was on 77 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: his way from Atlanta to Barcelona and it had to 78 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: turn back and come back to the United States because 79 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: a passenger. 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: Well really, really really. 81 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: Had to go explosive is the term that's being used 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: for this particular condition. You know what, though we missed, 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: nobody's asking about the guy's all right, everybody's fascinating with 84 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: the story because there's so many things that can happen 85 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: on an airplane that are just off, and this is 86 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: probably one. 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: Of the worst of the worst. 88 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: But you know, we had that story back in June 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: where a guy apparently experienced bloody diarrhea and he wasn't 90 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: on the plane anymore, but the next people got on 91 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: the plane, it wasn't cleaned up, so a guy sat 92 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: in it. 93 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 3: He took a video when he complained, I don't know what. 94 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: Happened to that person, but this person was on the 95 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: plane and they had to turn it around. The pilot 96 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: reported that they were having a bio hazard inside the plane. 97 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: A clip has been posted by a user that goes 98 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: by the name of Zansby Swanson, and it shows somebody 99 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: walking down the isle of the airplane, recording from their 100 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: phone as they're exiting and deplaning and basically what you said, 101 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: did you want to see this depor Mark, I can 102 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: send it to you. 103 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: You didn't want to see. Some of it's been covered 104 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: up with paper towels or. 105 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: Little little hand towels and stuff like. Now, I would say, 106 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: for sure you would have put your mask. 107 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: On right away. 108 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 4: One hundred. 109 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: I got charged by with his explosive diarrhea. Debra Mark 110 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: puts on five masks. 111 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 4: I need to find a body condom or something. I 112 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: would just be dying. 113 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: Is that still your policy? 114 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: Somebody asked me that because I flew to Europe during 115 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: my vacation. One person asked, man, when I came back, 116 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: did you wear a mask on the plane. 117 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: I thought of you, actually, but I said no, I 118 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: never did, not. From beginning to end, I did not. 119 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: I am here. 120 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: It was a couple of weeks ago, and they were 121 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: talking about exploding number of cases. 122 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: I think I will. I'm going to be going away 123 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: in October, and I think I will. Oh yeah, but 124 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 4: I was just yeah. 125 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 3: Probably. 126 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: I just was on a plane last weekend and I 127 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 4: did not. But I think I will. 128 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: Well, if somebody ran down the aisle leaking poopy on 129 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: my flight, I probably would put something on my face, 130 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: sniff it. I mean, there's no escape, Yeah, exactly. They 131 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: tried to spray it with some vanilla liquid, probably like 132 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: a sanitizer or something like that, but people said that 133 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: made it worse. 134 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: I think they were trying to disguise the smell, but 135 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any disguising smell like that. 136 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 137 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 2: Because you've ever experienced anything close to that, you know 138 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: that it really has a worse smell than any other 139 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: typical bowel movement, just because of the nature of it. 140 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: Now another story just surfaced similar to this. I wouldn't 141 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: say it's bad. There's a couple of women who claim 142 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: that they were actually taken off an Air Canada flight 143 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: because they were complaining about wet vomit covered seats, there's 144 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: your choice. Would you rather sit in vomit her feces. 145 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: Susan Benson was a passenger on this flight from Seattle 146 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: to Montreal. She was sitting near the vomit. She says, 147 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 2: there was a foul smell on the previous flight somewhat 148 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: had vomited. But apparently, and you know this now because 149 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: the planes it's getting tighter and tighter with their schedules. 150 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 3: So I thought about this. 151 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: When the planes come in, how much time do you 152 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: think they spend quote cleaning up the plane after people 153 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 2: get off, because they know you're anxious to get on 154 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: your flight and they want to be on time. So 155 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: I see like the crew sometimes entering, but I never 156 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: really see a lot of cleaning people. I guess they're 157 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: standing out there in the ramp when you come off, 158 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: waiting to get on. But says here, Air Canada attempted 159 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: a quick cleanup, but it wasn't thorough enough to these 160 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 2: women's well, to their eyes, the seat was still visibly 161 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: wet and there was vomit residue around the seats. She 162 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: said it mixed with the scent of perfume and coffee grinds. 163 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: They tried to mask the smell. They put those in 164 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: a seat pouch, perfume and coffee grinds, but she said 165 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: it didn't work. They called it unacceptable. The flight attendant 166 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: were apologetic it was a miscommunication with the cleaning crew. 167 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: The passengers were given blankets, wipes, and more vomit bags 168 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: settled in for the flight. Then the shaker, the pilot 169 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: came over to the passengers and said, you got to go. 170 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: You got two choices. You can leave the plane on 171 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: your own, or we're gonna get somebody to take you off. 172 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: What and if you don't go off on your own, 173 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna put you on a no fly list. 174 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Yes, it's Air Canada. Security came sooner and scored the 175 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 3: women off the flight. 176 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: I'd say, one, don't you guys sit and vomit? 177 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why he did that. It looked 178 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: like they had resolved it and were ready to go, 179 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: but I guess when word got to him, he was like, 180 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm not taking any interruptions today and i ain't taking 181 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: any backlash from any passengers. I'm going to just throw 182 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: them off. So Air Candada says they're reviewing this serious 183 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: matter internally and for now they've reached out to the 184 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: customers and apologize, and I think they're getting some kind 185 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: of refund or something like that. But that is absolutely absurd. 186 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: And the last plane story, because it's the end of 187 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 2: summer and there's always planes toys, is that apparently there 188 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: are little regulations from the FAA. When I'm saying little 189 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: in some cases, none about just how cool the airplane's 190 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: cabin temperature has to be when you board it. 191 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: You see, because the way. 192 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: It works, the air conditioner is on when the plane lands, 193 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: but after it lands and people get off, they basically 194 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 2: turn everything off. They lower the cabin temperature until the 195 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 2: engine rams up, and they don't do that until after takeoff. 196 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: So this means that and you probably have noticed this 197 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: before because when you're coming in, they sometimes tell you, 198 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: please do us a favor and pull down the shades 199 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: so we can keep the plane a little cool, because 200 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: they want to save on fuel and air conditioning and 201 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: the cost of all that, so they just shut everything off. 202 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: While they wait their feet aboard. 203 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: But apparently some people notice this summer and it was hot, 204 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: really hot in some places this summer. Sometimes people are 205 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: going in there and there's like ninety degree cabin temperatures, 206 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: and they're screaming about it. So they're trying to figure 207 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: out a way to force the airlines to make sure 208 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: that it's bearable inside the cabin when you're getting on 209 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: the plane. All right, we got war coming up. It's 210 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: the John and Ken Show, KFI AM six forty. We're 211 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 2: live everywhere. It's the iHeartRadio app. 212 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 213 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 214 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: Got a lot of good stuff to get to today. 215 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: Don't miss next hour when we talk about the dopey 216 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: gang that robbed a store in Orange County and then 217 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: ultimately tried to call an uber for their final getaway. 218 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 2: We'll have all the details with Blake Trolley here on KFI. 219 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: The Food and Drug Administration says this is very exciting 220 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: news for three or four people in the audience, one 221 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: of which may be Deborah Mark. I'm not sure the 222 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: new COVID boosters could be available as earliest Friday. 223 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to take it. 224 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 3: I got one thing to tell you what. It's not free. 225 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 3: It's not no. 226 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: The federal government's not paying for this. You're gonna have 227 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: to see if your insurance company covers it. How about 228 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: that I just found that out reading this story. 229 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: Oh that's well, no, it. 230 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 4: Actually doesn't because I am going to be traveling at 231 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: my doctor did. I wasn't planning on getting it, but 232 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: only because I'm going to be. I'm going to be traveling, 233 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: so I was told to get that, get hepatitis, get 234 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: the flu shots. 235 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: One the hell are you going going in the Middle East? 236 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: I got appatitis shots. You was a gooing with to Bangkok, Thailand. 237 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, that haved be a good idea to 238 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: get it. And don't drink the water. The water and 239 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 3: the ice cubes. 240 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: My doctor was telling me. 241 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: Yes, right, and I love ice cubes. And they also 242 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: told me even be careful in the shower, don't swallow 243 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: the water. Yes, I said that to the day with 244 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: a friend of mine who swallows water in the shower. 245 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: I said, well, you know, sometimes you're washing and maybe 246 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: you're singing. I don't, yes, and the water gets in 247 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: your mouth. 248 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it happens to people. But I was like, really 249 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: careful when I was in thie Land, not the intake. 250 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 3: I took really quick showers. 251 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, it's one hundred and ten to one hundred and 252 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: thirty dollars per dox, Pfizer and Maderna, So you know 253 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: that that's the list price. So it'll depend on your 254 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: insurance coverage whether or not that'll be paid for by. 255 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: Your insurer or by you. 256 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: The shots are just supposed to target the XBB dot 257 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: one dot five omicron sub variant. 258 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 3: Are you keeping up with this? 259 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: Please take notes because this is probably the one hundredth sub. 260 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: Variant of the original COVID. Do you remember them all 261 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: in order? Deborah? No, there was delta, remember they were Greek. 262 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 3: I know. 263 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: I just remember homicron because that's the one that we're 264 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: dealing with now. 265 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: But all the sub variants, I remember Delta. 266 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: That was one of the first ones to pop up. 267 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: I just remember the name of the delta subvariant. Anyway, 268 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: although this particular strain is no longer dominant, well then 269 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: why are the latest shots to target it? It still 270 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: should provide protection against whatever's circulating out there right now. 271 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: And they believe that ninety seven percent. 272 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 2: Of adults have already some level of protective immunity, either 273 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: because they got COVID or because they got previous vaccinations. 274 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: Although both immunities diminish over time, so you should be 275 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: well protected, as our producer Ray Lopez, because he just 276 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: had COVID like two weeks ago. 277 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 5: Right. 278 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so he's probably got more antibodies that have 279 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: formed from his three or four bouts with COVID. 280 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but once she I mean. 281 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: Since he's had it three or four times, maybe his 282 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 4: antibodies just aren't working too well, because you would think 283 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: he wouldn't have gotten it that many. 284 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: Times, doctor Mark, very good assessment. We'll call on you 285 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: now at the Health and Science desk to give us 286 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: the Yeah. So, as I mentioned, the cost of the 287 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: shots will not be covered by the government. Most people 288 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: with private and public health insurance, I should continue to 289 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: pay nothing out of pocket for the vaccines, they believe, 290 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: and if you if you get the vaccine out of network, 291 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: then it could carry a cost if you're in that 292 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: kind of situation. Now related to this today, and to 293 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: show you how this is really a nothing story. That's 294 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: why I began by saying, the three or four people 295 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: in the audience that are still worked up over this, 296 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: guests who walked into a White House appearance today and 297 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: maskless it's Joe Biden. 298 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: And why would that be a question, Well, Joe Biden 299 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: has COVID. 300 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: She tested positive over the weekend, and the rules are, 301 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: if you're got well, if you've been exposed to somebody 302 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: that tested positive, you should probably wear a mask for 303 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: ten days. And I think if you saw him, maybe 304 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: yesterday or the day before, he did show up at 305 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: a press appearance with a mask. But today he walked 306 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: into the White House State dining room and he was 307 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: holding the mask, kind of flaunting it. And then he 308 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: joked with the reporters that tell him I had it 309 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: on when I walked in, but they tell me I 310 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: gotta wear it for ten days or something. 311 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: They didn't take it seriously, right, And. 312 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: After he spoke for about ten minutes, he left the 313 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: room with the mask still in his hand, not over 314 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: his face. Because I'm reading grown that the State of 315 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: New York is going to send out COVID tests and masks. 316 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: To its schools, I guess they're going back soon. I 317 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 3: don't know what. 318 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Our squawking lady in La County, Barbara Ferrara, is saying 319 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: about the school children. I haven't really kept up with 320 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: all the news. I do know a couple of weeks 321 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: ago she was murmuring about the rising cases and the 322 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: possibility of masking coming back. 323 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 3: But it's going to die quick death. 324 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: Even though the numbers are up, it's not resultely here. 325 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: It is COVID cases are on the rise, but weekly hospitalizations, 326 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: while they're up sixteen percent, they're not serious. And again 327 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: we always have doubts on those numbers because are we 328 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: talking about people that came to the hospital because COVID 329 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: was taking them down, or people that came to the 330 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: hospital with some other problem and they tested positive for COVID. 331 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: We've always had that trouble with the hospitalization numbers. But 332 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: then Barbara Ferrara said recently, well, we also have a 333 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: situation where we don't know about people who tested home. 334 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: There could be many, many. 335 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: More people who tested positive, but we don't get those 336 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: results because they did the home test, and those are 337 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: not reported because they've closed those many of those COVID 338 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: testing sites a long long time ago. In fact, the 339 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: White House spokes ha said, we're in a different phase now. 340 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: As we said many times with COVID, this is kind 341 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: of going on the third year of coming out of 342 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: this pandemic. We believe we're in a very strong position 343 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: to continue to fight COVID, and this is not new. 344 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: People know what it's like to have COVID, they know 345 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: what it's like during this time, So this thing has 346 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: really just become overblown and silly. And even eighty year 347 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 2: old Joe Biden is playing around with his mask. He's 348 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: not gonna wear it. All right, I got war coming up. 349 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: It's the John and Ken Show. This is KFI AM 350 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. 351 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 352 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: AM six. 353 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: Forty on the radio from one until four and after 354 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: four o'clock the iHeart app for John and Ken on demand. 355 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: No, you made it all right, thanks for joining us. 356 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: You know, there's a couple of things that we've talked 357 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: about in depth over the show of the years. A 358 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: lot of them are ballot propositions that have absolutely ruined 359 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: the state. There's one we spend a lot of time on, 360 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: Prop forty seven. You know all about it. It's unleashed 361 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: the drug and homeless problem. 362 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: Okay. 363 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: There's another one that I don't think we spent as 364 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: much time on, and we will later on the show 365 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: in the three o'clock hour. But a couple of things 366 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: related to it right now, that's proposition fifty seven the 367 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: work of Jerry Brown. Jerry Brown, God rest his soul. 368 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 2: He's gone now, but we still think now he's still around. 369 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: He might as well be. 370 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 2: He's on some farm right up in the desert somewhere. 371 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: Every once in a while, the reporter goes and sits 372 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: down with Jerry Brown on the porch of. 373 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 3: His farm, where he regals them with stories of a 374 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: mental pat farm. Yeah, probably D seven. 375 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: What we're gonna take this all the way back because 376 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna get to a point here about big new 377 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: prison guard contract that. 378 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: Has come up. 379 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: But we go back where a judge was infuriated that 380 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 2: the California prisons were quote overcrowded, all right, so they 381 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: drafted a bill eight one oh nine to build more prisons. 382 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: Jerry Brown was governor, and he was feeling really bad 383 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: because the first time he was governor, well he you know, 384 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: some of the sentences he just thought were unfair. So 385 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: he wanted to undo what he thought were his past wrongs. 386 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: Remember he started to be a priest, right, he was 387 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: a Jesuit. Yeah, that was so we was feeling extreme 388 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: remorse about imprisoning people so that took part. 389 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: He was feeling remorse. 390 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: Okay, no, well he was feeling remorse that his first 391 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: round as governor resulted in a lot of people ending 392 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: up in prisons. So now his second time around, he's 393 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: I know you're trying to make your pre sex Joe. Thanks, okay, 394 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 2: Holy mackerel, ten year old, thanks for coming on. 395 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: Oh I think I'm onto something. Sorry. 396 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 2: So this time around he's decided that he was going 397 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: to make amends. He took this judge's order and man, 398 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: he went to the hilt with it. First thing they 399 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 2: did was they passed Aby one oh nine. You know 400 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 2: that now, we call it the prisoner dumping Bill. Basically, 401 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 2: it says that when they're released for probation parole, you're 402 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: not sending them back to state prison, take care of 403 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: them in the county jails, which don't have enough room, 404 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: so they released in days, all right, So we know that, 405 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 2: and then that helps with the recidivism rates, right because 406 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: they don't count anymore that I sent back to state prison, 407 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: so they're not in the state prison numbers. Anyway, that's 408 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 2: the first thing he did. Then he came around, we 409 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: got Prop forty seven, but the one that we don't 410 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: talk about enough this Proposition fifty seven. This was another 411 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: scheme to empty out the prisons. Now, the result of 412 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 2: all of this has really impacted California. Right now in 413 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: the state, we're down to ninety five thousand inmates. Do 414 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 2: you know how many people were in prison in twenty nineteen, 415 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: over one hundred and twenty thousand. That's like a twenty 416 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: one percent drop in just four years. Oh, Gavin Newsom 417 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: jumped on this with COVID and released even more inmates. 418 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: Oh and ten years ago it was one hundred and 419 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: sixty thousand. They've knocked out about sixty five thousand prisoners 420 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: and they're all running around outside in case you haven't noticed. 421 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: Right. 422 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: So, so the story that goes with this, which is 423 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: hard to believe and could only be California budget and politics. 424 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: The California prison guards are on track for one billion 425 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: dollars in perks and raises. 426 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: And you look at that. 427 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 2: Story and you think about what we just said that 428 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: the number of inmates, and you take John's number one 429 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty thousand ten years ago down to ninety 430 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: five thousand, that's a huge drop. It's like over thirty 431 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: percent drop, maybe forty percent drop, So why would you 432 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 2: have to give out a billion dollars and raises, perks 433 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: and benefits over the next three years. 434 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: But if it was all part of the plan originally, 435 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they'd come up with these ideas spaced 436 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: out every two or three years. I think there's a 437 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: master plan and they have it planned over a ten 438 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 1: year period. One thing will lead to another. If they 439 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: unleashed all their ideas at once, the public would revolt, 440 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: they'd be angry, they would vote people out of office. 441 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: They'd reject propositions. 442 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: So you launch one proposition and it takes a few 443 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: years before there's a noticeable effect, and then you launch 444 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: another one, and you repeat and so on and so on. 445 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: And they know the public does not make a connection, 446 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: does not connect the dots to all these separate incidents. 447 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: But they I think they all knew what they were doing. 448 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: Going back to twenty eleven, I think all the Progressive 449 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: Democrats have been in on this. They've had complete power 450 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: for that entire time. They have more plans too, we 451 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: just don't know about them yet. But this is not 452 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: the end. 453 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: If the plan is to empty all the prisons, and 454 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: by the way, they've already closed a few prisons. Gavenuson 455 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: wants to eventually probably close all of them. We've seen 456 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 2: this in La County too, they want to close down 457 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: the La County jails. They think that there are other 458 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: methods to deal with people who commit crime, which is ridiculous. 459 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: But why would they turn around and give out a 460 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: massive amount of money to the dwindling need for prison 461 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: guards Because. 462 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: The union is powerful, because the prison guards donate a 463 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: lot of money to their campaigns. 464 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: That's why. 465 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just telling that that they've had big diminishment 466 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: in their ranks and they can't find enough guards to 467 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: staff the prisons. So you're going to have to pay 468 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: us more and offer us bonuses to find workers. 469 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: They always say that they have some standard lies that 470 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: they use in order to shut down debate very quickly, 471 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: because again they know the public isn't paying attention and 472 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: the lazy ass journalists aren't going to try to see 473 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: if any of this is true. 474 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: I think this is all on purpose, it's. 475 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: All by design. It's all into related. They're not that stupid. 476 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: They may be evil and destructive, but they're not stupid. 477 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: These prison unions pay the bills for a lot of 478 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: these campaigns. That's why they're powerful. When I hear power, 479 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: first question is Okay, how much money do they pay 480 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: to get that power? 481 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? But for years, these Sacramento Democrats have told. 482 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: Us we spend too much money on prisons, and they 483 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: were lying. They've they've taken that out by releasing the 484 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 2: prisoners and closing the prisons. 485 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: But now it's a billion dollars more for the guards 486 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: that we don't need. 487 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: Because it was a focus group tested lie. Whenever a 488 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: political party wants to do something big, the first thing 489 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: they do is is convene polsters and focus group experts 490 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: and they see what argument works best. That's how they 491 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: pick out what kind of campaign themes that they'll use 492 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: for a candidate or a proposition. What is going to 493 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: work best on the public. How can we manipulate their brains? 494 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: How can we influence them? Well, when you talk about 495 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: saving money on prisoners, yeah right, damn right, we're spending 496 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: too much money on prisons. Yeah, you know there's a 497 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: lot of people who feel that way. Okay, then we'll 498 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: go with that as our lead. Now they know the 499 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: public's not going to pay attention. Ten years later, when 500 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: they're spending an extra billion dollars on prison guard perks. 501 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: They know that the story. How many people are going 502 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: to read the story? 503 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 2: This story got buried And actually I saw I saw 504 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: it in the print edition of the El Segundo times 505 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 2: before and I found it online. So yeah, that's which 506 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: is weird because the print edition usually follows stuff online 507 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: like by two or three days, so and they know 508 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 2: get much play online. 509 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: They'll be they know there'll be a few pockets of 510 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: howling right from from various groups who protest government spending 511 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: and government expansion and prisons and closing prisons. There's a 512 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: few groups that are how Our show will talk about it, 513 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: and nobody else will. 514 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 3: They know they did the end of the story. 515 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: Alicia Montero, statewide policy coordinator for Californians United for a 516 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 2: Responsible Budgets, that it's disheartening to hear about guards receiving 517 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 2: bonuses while stories of mistreatment, abuse and neglect within California 518 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: prisons regularly surface. 519 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 3: See that's the thing. 520 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a fine organization in their goals, but 521 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: Californians United for a Responsible Budget, all they get is 522 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: the last paragraph in these stories. That's the only influence 523 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: they have, they get a paragraph because the journalist wants 524 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: to present both sides. 525 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 3: Right, that's it. 526 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: They don't have any effect on government spending at all. 527 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: They influence nobody, and they're all getting paid. Right. 528 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: There's somebody financing this organization. 529 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: Well, and they're a coalition focused on shifting spending away from. 530 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: Police and prisons. So there you go. It does mention 531 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 3: what you said, though. 532 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: The prison guard the prison guard union is very powerful, 533 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: so that's why they're getting these bonuses. 534 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: That's right. 535 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,239 Speaker 1: The way that the labor unions are powerful in the 536 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: Central Valley and that's where they're hacking away trying to 537 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: build high speed rail. Why it's a huge reward to 538 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: the labor unions out there, period, end of story. That's 539 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: the way life works. That's the way the world works. 540 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 1: This this democracy, this government runs entirely on bribery and 541 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: on groups and individuals getting their share of the tax 542 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: river that flows by, because. 543 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 3: That's how you raise money for your reelection. So you 544 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 3: gotta run out to the unions. 545 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 2: That's what the Democrats usually do, and the Republicans count 546 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: out to big business. 547 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: They take money from big companies, so. 548 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: What they want they sell themselves to whatever groups will 549 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: will pay for their beautiful lives that they have as legislators. 550 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: Never forget all the expensive dinners, all the booze they drank, 551 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: all the hookers they enjoy, the interns they chase, the 552 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: junkets they get. 553 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: Around, none of these. 554 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: All these guys would be stuck in insurance offices killing 555 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: themselves if they didn't get this perk of being a legislator. 556 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: And they hate all of us. All right, we got 557 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: more coming up. Johnny Ken KFI AM six forty. We're 558 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 2: live everywhere. It's the iHeartRadio app. 559 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 5: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 560 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 5: AM six forty. 561 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: On the radio one till four after four o'clock the 562 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: Johnny Cannon Demand podcast on the iHeart App. 563 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 2: Well, we'll talk about that wild story of four people 564 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: stole from a Macy store in Brea. 565 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: There was a police pursuit. 566 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: They eventually made their way to the point where they 567 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: tried to call an uber as a getaway vehicle. That's 568 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: an unusual way to try to get away with a crime. 569 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 2: We'll get the full details from Blake Trolley CAFI News 570 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: after Deborah Mark's News coming up, that two o clock 571 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 2: here on KFI. 572 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: Well, there is a bioethicist. 573 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: Isn't that a great name for somebody's profession, a bioethicist. 574 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: When you see the word ethics, you know right away 575 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: what we're dealing with, right, These people for a perfect 576 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: world kind of thing, and they're supposed to be responsible 577 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: for how people are supposed to behave both professionally and 578 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: who appointed them. 579 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: By the way, you get a degree, I guess. 580 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: You get a degree, and then you get to tell 581 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: everybody what to do, and you get to judge everybody 582 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: else's ethics. 583 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: Who says, in this case, it would be in the 584 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: field of biology and science. Right, His name is oh 585 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: and this is a tip off, s Matthew Leo. Right, 586 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: So he goes by an initial first s an initial 587 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: means you're a pompous jackass. Okay, do you know anybody 588 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: who goes by an initial? Would you ever do that? 589 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: No? 590 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: I know people that go by two initials, you know, 591 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,719 Speaker 2: like JK ORJ or that's kind of like a nickname, right, right, 592 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't. Well, I'm sure people just call him Matt. 593 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: They can't be called a mess as whole. 594 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: Well, he's got. 595 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: A proposal to save the planet. To save the planet 596 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: from climate change, we should be biologically genetically re engineered 597 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: so that we don't want to eat meat. I need 598 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,439 Speaker 2: somebody would be a fan of that. Is that what 599 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: you want to do? You want to re engineer my genetics. 600 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: Well, I'm tired of everybody telling me how oh we're 601 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 4: you know, we were designed to eat meat, like I'm 602 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 4: the crazy one. 603 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: Well, well that's true on both counts. Well, design, that's 604 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: why you'd have to re engineer. 605 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: That's why you have to re engineer, because apparently it 606 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: is built into us to enjoy me. 607 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 4: So then you won't be enjoying meat, and you won't 608 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 4: You'll be engineered not to enjoy meat, so and then 609 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: I never have to hear that argument again. 610 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: Number two, you are the crazy one. Well, that's here's 611 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: what he said. 612 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: I want to consider a class of solutions that's never 613 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: been considered before human engineering. It involves the biomedical modification 614 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: of human beings. If we eat less meat, we could 615 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: significantly reduce our greenhouse gas emissions. Now, some people would 616 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: be willing to eat less meat, but they lack the willpower. 617 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: Human engineering could help, just as some people are naturally 618 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: get this to milk or crayfish. We could artificially induce 619 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: mild intolerance to meat by stimulating our immune system against 620 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 2: common bovine proteins. 621 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: Where is this nonsense that human engineering is something no 622 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: one considered before? Was this guy asleep when they were 623 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: teaching about the Nazis and history class? 624 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: Oh? 625 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 2: I think he means in terms of the climate change 626 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 2: fight he's talking about. Yeah, well, class of solutions to 627 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: the climate. 628 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: Go ahead, you come here and try to re engineer 629 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: my genes. This guy deserves a punch in the snout, 630 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: he really does. He ought to be re engineered. What 631 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: a what a moron? All supposed to And by the way, 632 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: how come he gets to decide which genes get engineered? 633 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 3: Well, it's just a proposal. 634 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: Because some people believe that consumption of meat is really 635 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: uh planet and some people don't. A lot of people 636 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 2: that don't believe that is assumptions at all times. Right, 637 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: So why don't we why don't we look at old 638 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: s here and decide what genetic re engineering he might need. 639 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's I'm sure there's a lot of objectional 640 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: things about s right, and so we could play with 641 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: his genes and see what it does to him? 642 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 5: What an this? 643 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: This guy? 644 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: This guy's straight out of uh, out of the out 645 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: of the Nazi playbook? What what? 646 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 3: What are the Nazis trying to do? 647 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: Why do you think they killed all the people they killed? 648 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: Oh? 649 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 2: Look, debrah, he and visious the use of meat patches 650 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: the way some people try to quit smoking. We're nicotine patches. 651 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: You could slap a meat patch on John and he 652 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: would saying I should don't want it in and out. 653 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: Give me some steam broccoli. 654 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah that happened, But wouldn't the wouldn't the meat patch 655 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: just be giving him an abundance of meat into his body? 656 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: Because isn't that what a nicotine patch does? It just 657 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: get it's supposed to give you a little bit of nicotine. 658 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: But I guess the meat one might be genetically engineered 659 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 2: so it doesn't harm the planet. 660 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: So yeah patch, Or maybe he hasn't thuted this out 661 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: all the way now, but he's dead. 662 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: The pain in the ash. 663 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 4: Oh come on, if somebody was trying to make me right, 664 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: genetically engineer my brain not to eat vegetables, you'd be 665 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: off for that. 666 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: Well, you need to be re engineered for other things, 667 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: other reasons. All right, Well we come back. Blake Trolley 668 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: will be here. 669 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: This wild story of some thieves who ripped off a 670 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: Macy store in Brea and ended up looking for a 671 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: ride share like an uber. Johnny kenk if I AM 672 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: six forty Live everywhere, iHeartRadio. 673 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 3: App, de remark Light in the twenty four hour Cafe 674 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 3: nears Room. Hey, you've been listening to the John and 675 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 3: Ken Show. 676 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 677 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 678 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app