WEBVTT - Dancing with the Hills 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:04.080 Hm. This is a Wells Cast with Wells, Adams and 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:09.160 I heart radio podcast. Oh my god, Okay, god, Oh 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.000 my god. Okay. This is like my first time I 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:13.239 was in a podcast about myself. I normally hosted with 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.640 a J and Renee from Pretty Messed Up. But hey guys, 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:19.239 my name is Cheryl Burke and I'm here hosting this 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:22.400 week's The Hills Cast, filling in for Wells because he's 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.919 currently I guess at an undisclosed location working on a 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.560 TV project. Um, so we'll be discussing all things the 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.199 Hills and Cista Key and I am so excited because 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.360 one of our guests today is a really good friend 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.800 of mine. Caroline Dia Moore is back and I just 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.559 cannot believe I haven't seen you since my wedding in 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.199 two thousand nineteen. It's been like over two years, and 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:50.360 your whole life has changed since then. So Hi, Hi, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.680 I know it's been so crazy, and I'm so just 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.880 like I miss you. I reach out to you THEO 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.320 and I'm like, I get you do and happy belated birthday. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.680 I'm such a bad friend. Thank you. You are terrible, 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.320 you know, I really am. Ever since you know this 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.759 new married life thing has really just swept me off 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.720 my feet. So I can't believe you're a reality star. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.800 I'm not, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not. 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:19.640 I'm I'm on a TV show with some really amazing people, um, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:25.640 and I'm navigating these these waters somehow and how is it? 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.560 So are you friends with these people or is it 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.640 like a forced type thing? So some of the people 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:35.319 I am actually genuine friends with, um and some people 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:41.200 I just don't like align totally by the way, I know, 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.280 I've watched, like I just did a binge watch of 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.279 the season, and definitely Carolin, I was like, wait a second, 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.480 I have friends, but no, it's so true. It's like 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.520 I even asked that of like of MTV and of people, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:57.280 like how do I fit in? You know what I mean? 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.880 But you know what do you fit in? Though? Kate, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:04.720 ln Um, Ashley and Jason like all like just super authentic, 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:10.640 real genuine people like you. Yeah, and they and and 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.200 they're just people that I I think are really fabulous 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.640 and have amazing, you know, genuine stories to tell and 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.000 absolutely so do you by the way, Like I can't 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.920 believe you're single, Like I actually still haven't talk to 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:28.919 you about your divorce or about like you being newly single. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.360 How is that was that weird during the pandemic or 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.400 how weird that we swapped lives like when we were 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:40.000 hanging out the time you're only married? Yeah, I know, Um, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.760 you know what, it's been really obviously trying, but I 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.320 know that has been the case for everybody through COVID, 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.320 but at a divorce on top of it all was 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:54.480 really intense. You know, it was really intense. And we've 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.760 gotten through all the rough patches, which so far, which 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:02.600 is really great. Um, and and I started all over 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:07.400 from scratch in every way possible, and um, yeah, I'm 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.080 just really grateful that I was able to maintain a 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:14.080 really good relationship with my ex. Um, we're actually like 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:18.840 super close. That's amazing. Yeah, So you know what a 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.120 little Bella, Yeah, my little Bella. She's just the sweetest. 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.880 So this is your new place, right, Like, so you 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.560 started from like scratch scratch, and so how is it? 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.680 How was it like adjusting? And just like obviously you've 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.800 been working your ass off with Pizza Girl and just 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.480 like everything about it, right, And I just love you 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.920 so much for your hustle and I admire that and 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.720 like you're always dropping something off at my house and 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.360 I'm loving every single second of it. At least send more. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.400 Of course, so was this kind of like a segue, 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.080 I guess into you needed to promote it, and you're like, 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.720 why not, why not take this opportunity to be a 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:56.640 part of you know, the Hills, you know how we 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.840 all have our side stuff right happening, so absolutely listen. 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.400 I looked at it like, okay, um, I'm a businesswoman, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.720 um first and foremost. And that's why when you said 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:08.440 reality star, I was like, oh my god, I can't 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.160 even ahead of that's business woman though, that's right, you know. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:15.760 And I was actually just watching um I'm forgetting her 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:17.840 name right now, but the woman who created spanks, I 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:21.760 was watching her master laughs. And yeah, she even said 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.359 in it. She was like, you have a chance to 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.080 be on a TV show, Go do it. Do it? 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.280 And I was like, all right, so you know I'm 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.800 gonna do this and um he listened. I knew a 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:34.400 lot of the people, so I thought it would be 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.839 a lot easier than it ended up being. Um, and 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.960 I was really grateful, But MTV really cared about the 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.240 entrepreneurial side of my life. I was scared at first 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.400 that it was going to be just about drama and 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.520 just about that. But they really want to show um, 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:55.920 a woman who is starting from nothing and starting from 0:04:55.960 --> 0:05:00.520 scratch and really doing super right, and that something that 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.720 I was really grateful for and I really like, I 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:08.640 really think, um, you know m MTV and evolution for 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.320 like caring about that. I love how they're like easing 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.360 you into it. You know, they're not like forcing you 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:16.919 into the cast. They showed you in the beginning and 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.600 I was like, yeah, I would like a little bit more. 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.760 And then like the last episode, so let's just talk 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.360 just getting down and dirty because I'm finding out new 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:27.440 things about my friend and I just need to hear 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:31.520 it from your mouth, what's going on with you and Caitlin, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.120 Like was that a real thing or was that scripted? 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.159 So here's the thing, like and everybody knows it, Like 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:42.640 in reality television, you are. Your feelings and your emotions 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:47.040 are real, and sometimes you have to repeat things and 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.479 sometimes you know, you have to be put in a 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:55.640 situation where um, you know. But but for the most 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.480 part of it, all is real and it's exaggeral it maybe, 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.760 but it's real. Yeah, but yeah, but it's so real, 0:06:02.880 --> 0:06:06.120 you know what I mean. So I listen, like I 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.800 think you've known that I've had in a like and 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:11.880 I could go either way. I mean like you knew 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.880 me back at my party days and I yeah, like 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.440 totally I think. But then I was just like on 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.880 you a couple of times in my life. I didn't 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:20.080 want to be the one to say it, and I 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.159 was gonna that was my next question, like weren't you 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.520 in love with me? Caroline? But I was getting little 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.640 jealous for a second there. But yeah, but like you know, 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.080 I've been sober for two years, so this is like different, 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.839 So go ahead, yeah, finish. Yeah, no, I fully get it. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.760 I know it's true like I've always, um, I've always 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.080 been like a fluid thinking human and I use that 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.160 word because it just makes sense to me, like I 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.760 just can kind of like it's about energy, you know 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.360 what I mean, it really is for me, and um, 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.760 I have ended up with men more often obviously, because 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.880 I do feel like a lot of it was societal 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.360 pressure and you know, just being told that you've uh 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.200 me it or you are accepted if you are married 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.760 with children to a man, you know, growing on your family, 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.880 what did they think I have you know, I haven't 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.920 talked to my dad since that. Eric, Yeah, it's okay. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.280 I don't know what is what that is going to 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:22.080 how that's yeah, I'm a little I just kind of 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:27.160 wanted to be authentic and be myself and um, yeah, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.400 and I don't know really what was it awkward with 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:36.120 you and Caitlin or actually no, we are so it 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.200 got awkward obviously, like for a minute. But she's such 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.600 a good human being and like we had so many 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:47.080 off camera nights together, like moments together that we just 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.360 like kind of went through it and um ended up. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.680 And she's right, you know, and she had done the 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.760 same thing, like when she got out of her relationship, 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.400 she immediately you know, fell in love with like a 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.040 friend who was a female who also had certain feelings, 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:02.600 you know what I mean, Like you you kind of 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:07.800 just like sorry, I shouldn't be speaking for somebody else, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.800 but I just she's related to me, you know what 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.240 I mean, in a lot of ways, and it makes 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.280 you feel comfortable, your bonded. It's like a real deep friendship. 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:20.160 And um, she's obviously beautiful and like so hilarious and 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.240 just makes me laugh, and um, I think it's it 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:28.040 was just more about a genuine friendship and connection than anything. Um. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:34.960 And actually I she just announced you know her, So 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.480 I'm confused because like, was that was she pregnant during 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:41.280 the show when so nobody knew? Nobody you didn't even know. 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.160 I didn't even know. No, I find out on the show. Yeah, 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.360 but like, did you know she was into somebody? Yeah, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:54.240 so it's an interesting Um yeah I did, because I 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.520 actually was one of the I actually introduced them, was 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.839 that after she was like sorry, you know yeah, basically, Um, 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.199 he's an amazing human being and um yeah, they're so 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.360 perfect for each other. I'm kind of one of those 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:13.559 people that I see things that are like good for people, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.480 and I'm just like one of those kind of connectors 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.920 and she actually, yeah, totally. In a lot of different ways. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.880 Business wise, I've connected you know, managers with clients and 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.120 just people. I love doing that. I love connecting people 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.679 that I think they're going to really like work out together, 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.719 you know. Um yeah, and like they want to keep 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.000 their obviously their personal life private, you know, and I 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:37.360 respect that for sure. Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Um okay, so 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.920 moving on, um okay, how much booze do you drink 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:45.440 on this show way too much champagne? Have you guys, pop? 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.040 Do you think lots of champagne? I don't really love champagne, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:52.000 So I go straight for I remember, Yeah, do you 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:56.680 remember I go straight for the hard stuff of my girl. Yeah, totally. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.760 We had so many nights together, like, so that please, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:06.560 Yeah that tetoes tetesn't like. But I obviously nerves. When 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.839 you're on this show, it's very scary and there's people 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:11.520 there that do have it out for you for no 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.800 freaking reason. And um, I like, I definitely um like 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:24.599 who you're thank you. I feel like there are some 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:29.520 people that just I mean, listen, last night was the 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.560 first episode that I was in. And then Heidi and 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:36.280 Spencer go to us Weekly and say, last night was 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:40.880 the worst episode ever and it was a good portion 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.880 of Caroline. You know, Um, do you think like for 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:48.760 sure it was directed at you? I mean, what else 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.000 could it? It feels really mean, you know, And then 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.559 they say that it should be it should be recast 0:10:54.840 --> 0:10:57.320 for next season. Maybe it was because they felt like 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.160 they weren't in it, so they had a little fomo maybe, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.840 but like, I just feel like, aren't we all just 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.679 in this because we all want a successful TV show, 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.400 and I do not feel that from them, to be honest, 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.920 I feel like it's been a really uphill battle for 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.400 me to be a part of this show, and I 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.200 contribute a lot of that to the way that they 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.680 personally treated me. You know, there were there were times 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.920 when I when I would try to get up and 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.640 speak or whatever, and you know, they'd say things like, oh, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.440 you're just trying to get into a scene, Like isn't 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.840 that what we're doing here? You know what I mean? 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.120 Like I'm so confused, Like, so you weren't friends with 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.240 them prior to this, then it was kind of like, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:48.920 I mean we were, it's they are in a friend um. Yeah, 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:53.600 So I feel like I like one of the first 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.640 things that they had that Spencer said to me a 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.920 while back was that I chose the wrong a lie 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.079 and it was about a friendship that I had made 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:03.439 in the show. He just came out to me when 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:04.640 I first came on. He was like, you chose the 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.280 wrong alliance. And I was like, hold on, like, not 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.960 even cameras around, is this? What is this? You know? 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.800 What what's the difference? What alliance is? He specifically talking 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:18.720 about Yeah. I became friends with Hal and he immediately 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.880 was like, it was like you chose the wrong alliance. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.040 And I was like alliance like we are human, Like 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:28.960 I'm a human. I'm this is not like a yeah, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.440 this is not by the way, are you friends with Brodie? 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:33.880 Didn't Brodie like bully you back in the day. No, 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.959 he did not bully me. He was he was like 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:37.720 a brother, you know what I mean. Like he was 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:40.920 totally like a brother. And I was best friends with 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.520 his little sister Jordan's, and we were like the kids 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.000 that would get the noogies. And I honestly I I 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.240 had said something. I guess I got the nickname because 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.360 I mentioned his nickname in front of a bunch of 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.040 people and he was like, what's his nickname? Again? What's 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:59.920 the nickname? Oh? My nickname was Lucy. Lucy. It was 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.679 after the first ever smallest baseball head humanity. And it's 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.280 so rude where it's kind of you know what kids are? 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:13.280 I mean, wait, what was his nickname? I'm not going there. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.200 Come on, no, Caroline, I text you if you were 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.440 any questions you didn't want me to ask you, Like 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:25.400 I'm an open book. You don't have to I'm an 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:29.040 open book about myself. I love Brodie. Brodie has been 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.080 a friend of mine, a genuine friend of mine for 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.520 a really long time. And I think I love his mother, Linda. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.560 I love that whole family. Is he upset that you're 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.360 good friends with Caitlin or now he was told? Like, no, 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.280 he loves Caitlin. They have a really good friendship, and 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:44.120 honestly they are should be an example to people that 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.880 you know, separate, move on, realize they're not right for 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:50.160 each other, and then stay stay cool. You know what 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.000 I mean? He really does want the best for her. 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.640 You know what I was kind of feeling was when Caitlin, 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.760 you guys were in San Diego, right and Brodie brought 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:02.520 this girl, And I feel like Caitlin may have already 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.520 moved on with this new guy, because like the reaction, 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:07.920 Like I would be really pissed if that happened to me, right, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:11.280 Like I wouldn't be able to like like be calm. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.240 But I wonder, you know, I think it was with 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.040 somewhere else. I think I think it might have been, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.080 for sure, but I also think that it was more 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.280 on a friend level, Like you should have told me, 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:25.000 like as a friend, not like her as like she 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.200 still has feelings for him, you know what I mean. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:35.280 So that's probably what you picked up on. Let's talk 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.040 about pizza girl. Okay, my f thing can talk about 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:43.960 So your sauce, right, you're amazing three sauces, right you have? Yeah? 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.080 I have a Marinera, a vodka and in r Vata 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.200 right now. Okay, amazing And I love the vodka. The 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.880 vodka is my favorite. Um. So you're selling right now 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.240 in Gelson's is that correct? I am. We just started. 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.760 Gals was the first supermarket to say, yes, here we go. 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.440 We're on the shelves. We will be on the shelves 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.320 at all the Bristol farms in August. And I just 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.200 got sixty five Whole Foods in like the California area, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:14.800 so we'll be there in September. Congratulations. So how was 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.000 all of this during the pandemic? Was it was it 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.600 like a struggle just to keep everything going or it 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:22.720 was it was the biggest struggle, um of my life 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.000 career wise. Um, it was like I had no funding, 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:30.360 I had no backing. Obviously I lost everything in the 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.880 divorce and ended up. Um what do you mean? Um? 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.880 You know you have to kind of it's either here's 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:39.440 how what I realized in a divorce and if I 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.600 can give any advice to anybody getting a divorce out there, um, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:45.200 it's definitely like go the mediation route, try to be 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.840 friends as best as you can, because lawyers don't care 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.760 about your bank account. Lawyers don't want you to have 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.560 a resolution. These lawyers just want you to keep fighting 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.560 because their bill keeps going up. And there was a 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.680 moment when Bobby and I lived at each other and 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.400 like we were He was like, we were like taking 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.800 out loans to do this fight, Like we didn't even Yeah, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.920 it was so bad to like fight over what like 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.640 a pizza restaurant and a and then pizza girl that 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.600 had just started, you know what I mean. So it 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.560 became like we knew right off the back custody wasn't 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:19.880 an issue. He's an amazing father, I'm a great mother. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.680 We both know that soft off the bat, but when 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.880 it came to these little things, it was like the 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.040 lawyers get in your head, right and they just try 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.240 to go, well he said this and this and that. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:34.359 It's such a game of it's a mess. So finally 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.920 in California, right like there's certain like you had no 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.760 idea about any Oh my god, it's so bad. They 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.320 don't help you at all. Like the legal system is 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:48.440 garbage out here. Um, um, it's so bad. So they 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:49.720 just like let you go on and on and on 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.800 and wrap up these bills. And I was going into debt. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:53.680 He was going into debt, and it was really scary. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.280 And finally we just like I just picked up the 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.280 phone and I was like, what is it gonna take. 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.560 Let's stop the bleeding um, And I gave him the 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:08.280 restaurant with you know, so you own m Oh my gosh, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.840 that's my favorite pizza. I know. And I've moved on 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.520 and it's it's actually really um it's it's gonna be 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.280 kind of um discussed on the hills, you know, so 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.360 you'll see some of that. How I had to separate 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.240 from my family business and yeah, kind of saying if 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.000 I move on for a few different a lot of 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:28.520 different reasons. My dad and like not being able to 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.080 work with him and his wife was really stressful as well. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.000 So there was a lot of Dad and Bobby still 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:37.000 work together in a way. Yeah, whoa, Okay, how did 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.200 you feel about that? You know what listen. At the 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.520 end of the day, he's Isabella's father and he'll always 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.199 be a part of the family. And I'm happy that 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.680 they have a nice like you know, um nest egg. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.919 I want her to a bond and and and a 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:54.800 business that's going to continue to support them and Isabella 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.440 when she gets older, exactly. And Isabella and I knew 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.359 that I had it in me to start over. I 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.760 knew that I was actually kind of exciting to like 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.760 have a clean slate and start completely over. So I 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:10.719 have that drive in me, um And I don't know. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:12.639 It be hard to work with family too, you know, 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:14.760 I worked, I had dance studios with my mother, and 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.000 I'm telling you that really killed us. Oh it's really 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.280 really hard. It's absolutely it's nearly impossible. But I do 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.320 know that a lot of really big businesses grew out 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.160 of the frustration of working with family members and being 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.120 like you, I'm moving on, and that's what I just did. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.040 And now I do feel like a lot of people 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.360 who were not believing in me back in the day. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.960 And listen, I do know that because of my party 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.879 girl past, it was like an uphill battle getting people 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.320 to believe that I was capable of being the CEO 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.080 of a of a big business and making it work. 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.520 So I had a lot to prove um, and I 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.320 had to change my life and to shake off that 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.040 reputation I still have. My god, oh my god, it's 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.560 so hard. Um, I actually got the chosen You said that. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.119 I was like, oh my god, girl, every morning that 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.919 you would wake up to Yeah, yeah, every single day, 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.720 Oh my god, so bad. Um. And you know, there's 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.880 definitely some stuff I'm going to have to explain to Isabella, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.440 like some photos that she'll see one day, you know. Um, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.919 But I'm just kidding. I'm sure you do. Actually, I'm 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.320 sure you have them, like like printed out in like 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.919 a weird old right in my like weird album like 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:26.120 just Caroline stuck Er. Um, that's so great. So where 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.320 did you get like these recipes? I heard it was 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.520 like your grandma's old recipes that right. So my grandmother 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.080 she was such a great cook, and she called the 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.359 sauce gravy and she used the sauce on everything. So 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.880 that's kind of my mentality. I'm telling people, it's not 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.800 just pasta sauce, right, you can cook all these different 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.359 dishes in it. I'm making soups with it. I'm making 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.480 you know, um thereso breakfast with it, like you know, 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.160 eggs on top, so good. So I'm just really kind 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.719 of um trying to spread the word and kind of 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.399 be a disruptor in the space. It's very stale and 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:02.120 old and male driven. UM, so everyone wants a home 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.520 cooked meal. You should come out with a cookbook eventual, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.440 just like how to use your sauces, your pizza girl 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:14.720 sauces with like what you know, what combos, not just pasta. Absolutely, 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.480 I was thinking of a book that kind of is 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:19.399 more of like a story of my life with different 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.280 recipes as it goes, because there's just so many things 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.720 that inspired, you know, different moments. What would the hills inspire? 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:31.840 What dish would that be? Oh boy? Well, there was 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.879 a rumor that I assaulted one of the characters with 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:38.639 the slice of pizza. Actually, you actually do I I 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:40.840 have seen you do that once before. Now I'm kidding. 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:45.440 I'm like, you slap people with your like hot pizza. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.560 M This person I wote name names, but I'm sure 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.840 you can guess. This person went to UM the production 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:58.520 company and said that Caroline Um, Caroline assaulted me with 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.040 a slice of pizza trying to get me fired off 0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:02.920 the show, and I was thinking, I was like, how 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:04.960 genius would that have been if I actually did something 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:09.080 like that, Like Mack everybody, I'm like. My sister says 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:10.520 that I did that when she was a little girl 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.720 when we were traveling to Italy. She said I got 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:14.960 so mad at her that I slapped her with a 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.800 hot like piece of pizza and it has traumatized her 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.080 ever since. She just tells the story like almost weekly, 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.719 and it's like, I feel so bad that must have her. 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.080 Can you imagine like a hot like hot cheese just 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.919 being and then like the sound and the splat of 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.159 like whatever sauce that you use, and then like just 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:38.080 falling like this, like all down. It's amazing. There's actually 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.160 a great weapon. You know. You should definitely do that 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.080 for the upcoming season. Speaking up, is there going to 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.080 be a season three? I don't know, honestly, I mean, 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.960 I have no idea. And you know, according to Heidi 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.120 and Spencer, the whole thing needs to be read. There 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.800